The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1805

00:00:12.000 Time rolls with Mike Tyson.

00:00:13.000 Time doesn't give a fuck about any of this.

00:00:15.000 No.

00:00:16.000 It just keeps going.

00:00:17.000 No.

00:00:17.000 Don't wait for nobody.

00:00:19.000 What was it like fighting again after all those years?

00:00:36.000 Well, it's funny because you talked to me on the podcast before.

00:00:40.000 The first time you came on and you said, I can't even work out.

00:00:44.000 Because if I work out, my ego will get excited.

00:00:47.000 But I did this toad, and I said, you gotta do it.

00:00:50.000 I said, you have to do it.

00:00:52.000 The toad told you?

00:00:53.000 The DMT told you it's time to fight.

00:00:55.000 You have to do it.

00:00:56.000 I lost the weight.

00:01:01.000 And it started off with me at first fighting Bob Sapp at first.

00:01:05.000 That's right.

00:01:06.000 The K-1 event.

00:01:07.000 I was there for that.

00:01:08.000 I was there live.

00:01:08.000 No, but I mean, I was going to fight.

00:01:09.000 Yeah, when you got in the ring with him, you said Marcus Queensberry rules.

00:01:14.000 Yeah, but listen, the fight I fought with Roy Jones was supposed to be with Bob Sapp.

00:01:18.000 Oh, really?

00:01:21.000 Oh, no kidding.

00:01:22.000 Hell yeah.

00:01:23.000 I wouldn't have to chase this guy all around.

00:01:28.000 So the next thing you know, Roy Jones got involved, and other fighters, Holyfield got involved, and then it turned into a fiasco, and then the young guy, Jake Paul, he got involved then.

00:01:42.000 And that's how the birth of Jake Paul became.

00:01:46.000 When you get challenged by someone who's a guy like a Jake Paul, does that piss you off?

00:01:52.000 Not at all.

00:01:55.000 No, it doesn't.

00:01:57.000 I think it's awesome.

00:01:59.000 You think it's awesome?

00:01:59.000 Yeah, it's going to piss me off.

00:02:01.000 I think it's cool.

00:02:03.000 You think it's cool?

00:02:04.000 That's awesome.

00:02:06.000 That's awesome that you handle it that way.

00:02:08.000 Because like, in a way, I mean, it's kind of insulting.

00:02:14.000 It's brave, it's bold of him, but it's also, it's like, Jesus Christ, there's levels to this world.

00:02:20.000 Let me know what I found out.

00:02:23.000 This gentleman, he was a mayor in this town in the Midwest, and I talked to him before, and he was one of those stern guys.

00:02:30.000 He always got the bills, paid, always got your lights on, always got everything right and perfect, but he didn't have a good personality.

00:02:36.000 And he almost lost to a guy that didn't do anything.

00:02:39.000 He shitted on people's taxes, he messed it, but he hung out with the people.

00:02:43.000 He smoked cigarettes with them, he drank with them, he ate with them, he hung on their porch with them.

00:02:48.000 And that's when you learn you can't take yourself too serious.

00:02:53.000 I don't mean the world will turn on you if you take yourself too serious.

00:02:56.000 Who the hell am I to take myself too serious?

00:02:57.000 Made all this money, got this reputation, and now I'm looking at people, screw-facing them now.

00:03:04.000 I have a great life.

00:03:05.000 How am I gonna be mad at somebody?

00:03:06.000 Really, if you think about it, when my ego's not involved, how can I really be mad at somebody?

00:03:11.000 That's beautiful.

00:03:11.000 That's a beautiful attitude, and you're so right, because there's so many people that are so concentrating on...

00:03:16.000 They're concentrating so much on succeeding and doing great things.

00:03:20.000 That was me.

00:03:20.000 I just wanted to win so bad.

00:03:22.000 I wanted to be somebody so bad, it wasn't even funny.

00:03:26.000 Yeah, and you forget what life is about.

00:03:28.000 Life is about, thank you, life is enjoying moments.

00:03:31.000 Life is a balance and life is, your legacy is not what you accomplished, it's what your children say about you at the end of the day.

00:03:39.000 They know who you are.

00:03:40.000 They know what you're hiding that you don't want no one else to see.

00:03:43.000 I'm sure you are a fan of Miyamoto Musashi.

00:03:46.000 I'm sure.

00:03:47.000 Tell me about the Japanese warrior.

00:03:49.000 Book of Five Rings.

00:03:50.000 He was all about balance.

00:03:51.000 That was his whole thing.

00:03:52.000 A samurai has to be an artist.

00:03:55.000 You have to be able to do calligraphy.

00:03:57.000 You have to be able to paint.

00:03:58.000 You have to be able to write poetry.

00:04:00.000 He felt like if you had any imbalance, like if you were too aggressive or too peaceful, like any imbalance was dangerous.

00:04:07.000 He's like, you had to be perfectly centered.

00:04:10.000 So you had to be a person who understood all things.

00:04:13.000 That's true, too.

00:04:14.000 You had to do artwork, everything.

00:04:14.000 That's true, but...

00:04:16.000 Everybody can express themselves being centered.

00:04:20.000 People have to be totally insane to express themselves, totally introverted to express themselves, and I don't know why it's like that.

00:04:26.000 I think he's talking about it from a point of fighting with swords.

00:04:31.000 Self-control.

00:04:32.000 Most fighters are...

00:04:34.000 Our main problem is self-control.

00:04:36.000 That's what I mean.

00:04:36.000 For sure.

00:04:37.000 Yes.

00:04:38.000 Yeah, and it gets worse as you get more successful and more destructive and more, you know, you're a conqueror, you're the fucking guy in Sports Illustrated, you're the fucking man.

00:04:47.000 I mean, it's just, when you're a guy who's in a position like you were in when you were 20 years old, like, I've had this conversation with many people, like, do you understand the kind of self-control it would take to be the baddest man on the planet and you're only 20?

00:05:01.000 Yeah, it takes a lot of self-control.

00:05:02.000 It's crazy!

00:05:04.000 It's a crazy position to be in.

00:05:06.000 So, like, imbalance at that point in your life was almost impossible.

00:05:12.000 It wasn't no balance.

00:05:13.000 It was strict fighting.

00:05:15.000 It was strict.

00:05:16.000 It's too much this.

00:05:17.000 It was this.

00:05:18.000 It was this.

00:05:19.000 That was bad.

00:05:20.000 Oh, God.

00:05:21.000 Fuck.

00:05:21.000 I can't make that happen.

00:05:22.000 I got to do better tomorrow.

00:05:24.000 That was bad.

00:05:25.000 Oh, God.

00:05:25.000 I got to move my head.

00:05:26.000 I got hit today.

00:05:27.000 I got a black guy.

00:05:28.000 Oh, God.

00:05:28.000 Cuts are going to be mad at me if he see me do this.

00:05:30.000 If he see me get hit.

00:05:32.000 Everything was on being perfect.

00:05:34.000 Do you think that that's what it takes to make someone who is as good as you, as young as you?

00:05:39.000 You have to be completely obsessed.

00:05:42.000 Me, Mike Tyson, I'm an obsessed mentality type of person.

00:05:46.000 And at that point in time, I mean, to achieve what you achieved so quickly, too, you know, like you met Cuss when you were like, what, 13?

00:05:54.000 12. 12. So from 12 to 20, I mean, that's wild.

00:05:58.000 That's a wild ride.

00:05:59.000 Well, 12 to 19, he died when I was 19, but the fact is, um...

00:06:04.000 I put so much of myself into boxing my emotions and everything.

00:06:10.000 That was magnificent.

00:06:11.000 That was great.

00:06:12.000 But then when I came to life, it was disastrous.

00:06:14.000 Right.

00:06:15.000 Imagine being the guy that's just so, boom, always in the person's face.

00:06:19.000 Hey, hey, that's what.

00:06:20.000 Hey, baby, I love you.

00:06:21.000 Hey, hey, what's this?

00:06:22.000 Hey, hey, what's this?

00:06:23.000 And I'm just that manic type of person.

00:06:25.000 With everything.

00:06:26.000 Yeah.

00:06:27.000 I love you, but he's going to stop.

00:06:29.000 Stop.

00:06:31.000 Hey, what did I do?

00:06:32.000 Hey, stop talking.

00:06:33.000 I promise.

00:06:33.000 I'm sorry.

00:06:34.000 No, no, no.

00:06:37.000 Oh man.

00:06:39.000 Do you know Neil Brennan?

00:06:40.000 Neil Brennan, the comedian.

00:06:42.000 Very funny comedian, but he has a funny joke about football players.

00:06:44.000 Football players are getting violent altercations.

00:06:47.000 He goes, he just did football outside of football.

00:06:49.000 That's all it is.

00:06:50.000 He gets paid to do football.

00:06:52.000 Like dudes who crash into people on a regular basis and tackle people.

00:06:55.000 He's getting paid to do that.

00:06:56.000 He just did football when it wasn't, you know.

00:06:59.000 No, he did it illegally.

00:07:00.000 Yes, he did it illegally.

00:07:01.000 He did football when it wasn't time to do football.

00:07:03.000 I did boxing when it wasn't time to do boxing.

00:07:06.000 When it was out of season.

00:07:07.000 Yeah, it was out of season!

00:07:09.000 Sometimes we do our sports when it's out of season and we get in trouble.

00:07:12.000 But those things added to your mystique.

00:07:15.000 Like when you got in that fight with Mitch Blood Green in some...

00:07:19.000 was it...

00:07:20.000 Dapper Dan.

00:07:21.000 Dapper Dan, yeah.

00:07:22.000 Dapper Dan's.

00:07:23.000 And that was like, that added to your mystique.

00:07:25.000 Like when you crashed your car, gave it to the cops.

00:07:27.000 Like that added to your mystique.

00:07:28.000 It was just wild, impulsive shit.

00:07:30.000 But it's like, almost like that's what people want.

00:07:33.000 From the greatest boxer on the planet.

00:07:35.000 You know what I mean?

00:07:37.000 Just chaos.

00:07:38.000 It's part of the fun ride.

00:07:40.000 I was a nobody that wanted to be somebody so bad.

00:07:42.000 That's what it was.

00:07:43.000 Yeah.

00:07:44.000 And you were, quickly.

00:07:47.000 Obviously you were supremely confident, but did you ever have moments where you couldn't even believe it was real?

00:07:54.000 Right now.

00:07:56.000 I'm waiting for somebody to say, get up nigga and go back to that cell.

00:08:03.000 Oh my god.

00:08:04.000 Yeah, there's no getting used to some things.

00:08:08.000 There's just no getting used to it.

00:08:09.000 How do you really get used to understanding yourself when everyone tells you you're the greatest?

00:08:16.000 That's what the gentleman was talking about, the five rings.

00:08:22.000 How do you acknowledge yourself?

00:08:24.000 You obviously were the greatest.

00:08:28.000 But there's almost like a samurai way of looking at it where you acknowledge it, but you don't think about it.

00:08:35.000 And I don't know who the fuck is capable of doing that.

00:08:38.000 No one's capable of doing that at 20. In order to be in the master, you have to be the idiot first.

00:08:43.000 Right.

00:08:44.000 You can't be the master without being an idiot.

00:08:46.000 You can't be a master and become a master.

00:08:49.000 You have to make the mistakes to become a master.

00:08:51.000 100%.

00:08:52.000 You have to be a fool.

00:08:53.000 If you're not a fool, you're not learning.

00:08:55.000 Hell, you have to be a fool.

00:08:56.000 You have to be a fool to even think you want to reach that level.

00:08:59.000 Yeah.

00:09:00.000 You have to be a fool.

00:09:01.000 And, you know, it's a funny thing because a lot of people are scared of trying anything new.

00:09:05.000 Skiing.

00:09:05.000 Anything.

00:09:06.000 Anything they never did.

00:09:07.000 Ice skating.

00:09:08.000 People are afraid.

00:09:10.000 Because you think about the early times when you were learning something.

00:09:13.000 You're fucking terrible at it.

00:09:15.000 There's nothing more terrifying than being terrible at fighting.

00:09:18.000 And you're learning fighting around people that are really good at it.

00:09:22.000 And if you enter into that realm, you have to be a really courageous person to be a beginner in fighting.

00:09:28.000 Listen, You always benefit from fighting because people who don't fight well teach people to fight well.

00:09:36.000 That's normally how it goes.

00:09:37.000 You never hear no great legendary fighter being a great trainer.

00:09:40.000 It's probably 1%.

00:09:41.000 Like Emmanuel Stewart is a great example, right?

00:09:44.000 Exactly.

00:09:44.000 Emmanuel Stewart is not a guy that people knew as a great heavyweight fighter, but my God, what a fucking trainer he was.

00:09:51.000 That's what happened.

00:09:51.000 When you don't fight, you can teach.

00:09:53.000 In everything.

00:09:54.000 There's some guys that are...

00:09:56.000 But, like, Freddie Roach was a good fighter, and Freddie Roach is an amazing coach.

00:10:00.000 There's exceptions, right?

00:10:01.000 They're very 1%, though.

00:10:03.000 Right.

00:10:03.000 The perception's so small.

00:10:05.000 It's interesting.

00:10:06.000 Like, everybody has their role, right?

00:10:08.000 What do you think of these fighters, guys like me?

00:10:12.000 Don't you think we have a little bit too much self-centered to really get involved with somebody?

00:10:16.000 Yeah, it's totally possible.

00:10:18.000 If they don't pick it up quickly, we lose our interest because they think they should be like us, or they should be...

00:10:23.000 Dedicated like us.

00:10:24.000 They should stop fucking eating and losing weight when they don't need to lose weight.

00:10:29.000 Yeah, totally.

00:10:31.000 I could imagine that you wouldn't be interested.

00:10:35.000 It's like a great man who is a great fighter at one point in his time stops thinking about himself.

00:10:41.000 You're always working on yourself.

00:10:42.000 Constantly.

00:10:43.000 Listen, if you know who you are at this stage of your life, then you're very limited.

00:10:49.000 If I know who I am at this stage, we're 55 years old and I know who I am.

00:10:53.000 This is never going to change.

00:10:55.000 This is who I am right now.

00:10:56.000 I'm going to be a very limited person.

00:10:58.000 Every day of our life we change without even knowing.

00:11:01.000 Absolutely.

00:11:02.000 Without even knowing we change.

00:11:03.000 That's at every age, right?

00:11:04.000 That's at 12, that's at 35. We're growing.

00:11:07.000 We're on work in progress.

00:11:09.000 I notice the older I get, The closer I am to my past, I started meeting people when I was seven years old, eight years old.

00:11:15.000 Now, I'm 55. I became world champion.

00:11:19.000 They won 25 or 50 Grammys or platinum albums or something.

00:11:23.000 And we just went on a different world, but we came from that brilliant little cesspool.

00:11:31.000 Also, they probably also can relate to you because they can't believe their life is real either.

00:11:36.000 No, they tell me that too, yeah.

00:11:37.000 Everybody says that.

00:11:38.000 They all say they have like imposter syndrome.

00:11:41.000 Yeah.

00:11:41.000 Except Dave Chappelle.

00:11:42.000 I think Dave Chappelle is just supposed to be here.

00:11:45.000 Dave Chappelle doesn't have any, like before shows, he's the coolest cucumber I've ever seen before a show.

00:11:51.000 He just is relaxed.

00:11:53.000 Just relaxed, listen to like Nina Simone music, and then he just goes out and does his thing.

00:12:00.000 Everyone, I don't care who you are, everyone focuses on who they are.

00:12:04.000 Yes, everyone does.

00:12:05.000 We're all we have to think about.

00:12:07.000 What do you think about?

00:12:08.000 We are all we really have to think about besides our children.

00:12:10.000 And even though we have children, we're our center of our attention.

00:12:13.000 And the great coaches find those people and make them better.

00:12:16.000 Exactly.

00:12:17.000 You have to bring it out of them.

00:12:18.000 Yeah, but you have to have one of those people.

00:12:21.000 No one could ignite me in that customado.

00:12:26.000 Right.

00:12:26.000 It's totally different.

00:12:27.000 It's just different.

00:12:28.000 It was so emotional involved.

00:12:31.000 Do you think it would be possible if you met a young man that reminded you of yourself when you were his age and that would excite you to train him?

00:12:40.000 If he was so excited about it.

00:12:43.000 And so dedicated and driven and talented and you felt like he would do everything you told him to do and he would listen to you.

00:12:50.000 Listen, you know how special you have to be to be a trainer?

00:12:54.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:12:55.000 I don't care how great you are as a fighter.

00:12:56.000 I don't care how great you are as a skier.

00:12:59.000 You know how great you have to be to be a trainer?

00:13:01.000 It takes more to be a great trainer than to be a great fighter.

00:13:05.000 Do you think it's because a great trainer has to be able to teach all kinds of styles?

00:13:09.000 No, a great trainer...

00:13:10.000 Styles have nothing to do with the morale behind the style.

00:13:13.000 The morale behind the style.

00:13:15.000 Imagine if you have the greatest style, but don't have the great determination and anticipation.

00:13:21.000 They don't inspire you.

00:13:22.000 Yeah, you ain't gonna be nothing.

00:13:26.000 When you have a relationship like yours with Cuss when you're 13 years old, that's the magic relationship in boxing.

00:13:32.000 When people talk about the mentor...

00:13:34.000 Mentors are everything.

00:13:35.000 Your job is to make your mentor happy.

00:13:39.000 If you do that, you accomplish your job.

00:13:42.000 The way you did it, man, it's like, it's one of those stories like a movie story.

00:13:47.000 It really is.

00:13:48.000 It's like if you saw your life, if your life wasn't a real life and somebody wrote it in a movie, I'd be like, ah, a little too much.

00:13:54.000 No, they don't know how mean we are.

00:13:56.000 We were mean, baby.

00:13:57.000 We wanted that belt.

00:13:59.000 Yeah.

00:13:59.000 And it's also just being so fortunate to have met a guy like Cuss.

00:14:06.000 Incredible, huh?

00:14:07.000 Incredible.

00:14:07.000 Just the stars align for you, you know?

00:14:10.000 And that's what we all need to realize, that they don't align for everybody.

00:14:15.000 Because it's been written in life.

00:14:18.000 Everything's been written since the beginning of time.

00:14:21.000 Do you think that everything's been written like it all has a purpose to it?

00:14:24.000 It's all going, moving towards a certain goal?

00:14:26.000 Absolutely.

00:14:27.000 Absolutely.

00:14:28.000 Do you see that when you get really high, too?

00:14:32.000 When I do mushrooms or any time I do anything psychedelic, I have this weird thought that all of this is playing out towards a very predetermined outcome.

00:14:44.000 Exactly.

00:14:45.000 All of this is what we're doing now, me and you and everybody, is a beautiful process of dying.

00:14:50.000 Once you're born, the process begins.

00:14:53.000 And that's what it is.

00:14:54.000 And you're dying as the world is changing rapidly around you, as more people have access to information.

00:15:00.000 No, by you dying, you change the world.

00:15:03.000 That too.

00:15:04.000 By you living, you change the world.

00:15:05.000 Exactly.

00:15:07.000 That's the thing.

00:15:08.000 I think death got a bad rap.

00:15:10.000 No, it has a bad rap.

00:15:12.000 That's a great quote, though.

00:15:13.000 If life is beautiful, how could death be bad?

00:15:16.000 Well, it's inevitable, right?

00:15:17.000 Without life, there wouldn't be death.

00:15:18.000 Without death, there wouldn't be life.

00:15:19.000 How could they both be bad?

00:15:20.000 You think God would want us to be born and be scared about dying?

00:15:25.000 That's all.

00:15:26.000 We're born, now we're scared to die.

00:15:28.000 Well, we want to stay alive, but we can't be scared of something that's inevitable, right?

00:15:32.000 No, we can't.

00:15:32.000 We could be afraid, but we just can't cling to life.

00:15:35.000 Right.

00:15:35.000 And God wants us to be afraid.

00:15:38.000 He still wants us to think after this is nothing.

00:15:43.000 I would like to think that he would think that we would believe after this, there's more than this.

00:15:49.000 I believe once you die, you begin to live.

00:15:52.000 That's my theory of dying.

00:15:54.000 It certainly could be that.

00:15:56.000 You tell that to a pragmatic scientist, they'll act like we're crazy.

00:16:00.000 But I think that if you have a psychedelic experience, one of the things you say to yourself is, okay, what is this?

00:16:07.000 How is this even real?

00:16:08.000 Tell us the best science in the world.

00:16:10.000 Explain your existence.

00:16:12.000 Ask him to explain his existence.

00:16:14.000 Explain your existence after you've done DMT. Yeah, really.

00:16:17.000 Explain your existence.

00:16:18.000 Now explain your existence.

00:16:19.000 He can't.

00:16:20.000 You can live in the threshold of your birth-to-death life and just operate by society's rules and only think about the things that matter to your bottom line, your bank account and things like that, but you're missing out on a lot of mistakes.

00:16:33.000 I just don't believe that.

00:16:34.000 I think your consciousness tells you.

00:16:36.000 You may not follow your consciousness.

00:16:37.000 You may be afraid to react, but I think your consciousness tells you and you're just intimidated to move or react.

00:16:43.000 I'm just totally different.

00:16:45.000 Ignore it.

00:16:45.000 Anything that I'm afraid to do, I do it.

00:16:47.000 Anything I'm afraid to do.

00:16:49.000 Ask the most prettiest girl in the world.

00:16:51.000 I do this.

00:16:52.000 I work for this position in life.

00:16:54.000 Anything I'm afraid to do, I just do it.

00:16:56.000 Yeah.

00:16:57.000 And not afraid of the results.

00:16:59.000 Well, I'm afraid of results, but I act as if I'm not.

00:17:02.000 Yeah.

00:17:03.000 That's a great way to live your life.

00:17:05.000 If you could just find things that challenge you all the time.

00:17:08.000 Find things that scare you all the time and do them as often as possible.

00:17:12.000 And when you realize it, really not many.

00:17:15.000 Really think about it.

00:17:17.000 Really losing your children and death.

00:17:18.000 After that, what was really scary?

00:17:21.000 Yeah, most of it you get over.

00:17:23.000 Absolutely.

00:17:24.000 And then you're just a part of this whole system that leads up to people.

00:17:29.000 What led up to this, to me, and what led up to you, our generation?

00:17:32.000 Now our generation will lead up to something else.

00:17:35.000 Yeah, we're going to lead up to a totally new kind of human being.

00:17:38.000 Someone who grows up with the internet.

00:17:39.000 It'll be a different human being and maybe a different species.

00:17:43.000 Eventually, I think so.

00:17:44.000 Maybe we'll become a different species.

00:17:46.000 It's too much...

00:17:48.000 There's just too much scientific science out there that people are dibbling and dabbling in.

00:17:54.000 All of a sudden they start seeing these animals that look deformed with human beings' hands and heads and stuff.

00:18:00.000 They've made human-monkey chimeras.

00:18:03.000 That means they've combined the DNA of a human and a monkey.

00:18:06.000 No, we're talking about how they did this.

00:18:08.000 I think they only did it in the embryotics.

00:18:10.000 I don't think they actually raised one to a full-grown living animal.

00:18:15.000 And the monkey arm's like this.

00:18:16.000 It's crazy.

00:18:17.000 It goes right here.

00:18:18.000 Instead of going here, his muscles go right here.

00:18:20.000 Yeah.

00:18:21.000 There's a video that someone sent me of a monkey pulling this dude's head off.

00:18:28.000 Pulling this dude's scalp off his head.

00:18:30.000 Just jumps on top of this dude, bites into his head, and peels back his scalp.

00:18:35.000 It's a chimpanzee.

00:18:35.000 No, it's a tiny little monkey.

00:18:37.000 That's what's crazy.

00:18:37.000 Here, I'll send it to Jamie.

00:18:39.000 Because it's a tiny little monkey, and the dude is in India.

00:18:43.000 You got it?

00:18:44.000 Okay.

00:18:44.000 So this dude is in India.

00:18:46.000 This is it.

00:18:47.000 Check this out.

00:18:47.000 This is crazy.

00:18:49.000 So the dude thinks he's being friendly with this monkey.

00:18:52.000 The monkey's sitting in his lap, and the monkey just grabs him out of nowhere.

00:18:56.000 Look at this.

00:18:56.000 Don't do this to me, man!

00:18:58.000 Don't do this to me!

00:19:00.000 He bit his head and pulled his fucking scalp off.

00:19:06.000 Yo, listen, man.

00:19:07.000 That's just a little monkey.

00:19:08.000 That ain't even a big monkey.

00:19:09.000 You ever watch the chimpanzees when they hunt those monkeys?

00:19:13.000 Yes.

00:19:13.000 And they hunt them and then they rip them, break them while they're alive, eating their hands.

00:19:17.000 Yeah.

00:19:17.000 They jump, they really consider it.

00:19:20.000 They break off one hand and feed it to the other monkeys.

00:19:22.000 Yeah.

00:19:22.000 They share.

00:19:23.000 Share parts of the monkey while they're eating and alive.

00:19:25.000 And alive.

00:19:25.000 You saw that?

00:19:26.000 It's screaming.

00:19:27.000 I'm one of those guys that get into stuff like that.

00:19:30.000 You know, Mike, they didn't even know about that until the 90s.

00:19:32.000 They didn't know that they regularly hunted monkeys.

00:19:34.000 They thought they lived off of fruits and vegetables like gorillas.

00:19:38.000 Gorillas just eat plants.

00:19:41.000 It's crazy, the way they do it.

00:19:42.000 If a gorilla's hungry, they eat meat.

00:19:44.000 I bet he will.

00:19:44.000 But most of the time, they're just eating plants, whereas the chimps really like eating monkeys.

00:19:49.000 It's just something about a little face.

00:19:51.000 When the chimp is grabbing it and pulling it apart, and the little face is like...

00:19:55.000 Listen, it's the power of being in control.

00:20:02.000 It's just horrific to watch a monkey get eaten by a chimp.

00:20:19.000 Right.

00:20:21.000 Yeah.

00:20:26.000 Yeah.

00:20:26.000 That process is going somewhere, right?

00:20:28.000 It's going towards some very peaceful time.

00:20:32.000 But I think that's one of the things that people love so much about violence and conflict.

00:20:36.000 Even watching stuff like that, it reminds us.

00:20:38.000 It excites us because it reminds us, oh, we're just animals.

00:20:41.000 We're animals, too.

00:20:42.000 Talk to be human.

00:20:43.000 But also, it reminds us not to be the weak one.

00:20:50.000 Yeah, don't be that dude.

00:20:51.000 That monkey's climbing on you.

00:20:52.000 It's punking you.

00:20:54.000 You're the one.

00:20:55.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:20:56.000 Mean chimpanzee.

00:20:57.000 Look how evil that chimpanzee is.

00:20:58.000 Oh, my God.

00:20:59.000 That is a crazy photo.

00:21:01.000 They're so powerful, too.

00:21:02.000 Oh, insanely powerful.

00:21:03.000 They can rip your face right off.

00:21:05.000 Do you know about the giant chimps that they found in the Congo?

00:21:08.000 Do you know about this?

00:21:09.000 Let's check them out.

00:21:11.000 There's a group of chimps that they found in the Congo that are a subspecies.

00:21:15.000 Let's check them out.

00:21:16.000 Yeah, it's...

00:21:17.000 They're called the Bondo Ape.

00:21:19.000 There's a guy named Carl Armand.

00:21:21.000 He's a Swiss wildlife photographer.

00:21:23.000 Or maybe he's from Sweden.

00:21:24.000 And this dude has been...

00:21:26.000 He sets up these camera traps in the Congo to try to capture them.

00:21:29.000 To try to get photos of them.

00:21:31.000 Because they're a rare subspecies of chimp that grows like six feet tall.

00:21:35.000 They weigh over 300 pounds.

00:21:36.000 They're fucking huge.

00:21:38.000 Maybe somebody's been a scientist in a laboratory with them.

00:21:42.000 I don't think so.

00:21:43.000 I think there used to be a bunch of different primate species that died off.

00:21:47.000 Look at some people.

00:21:49.000 There's been these animals that they found.

00:21:51.000 It looks like it got teeth, but it looks like a fish, and it got clans.

00:21:56.000 It's just a freaky thing.

00:21:57.000 I guarantee you they fucked with some animals and made some hybrid animals.

00:22:01.000 They definitely have done that.

00:22:02.000 But with this chimp, this is in such a remote part of the Congo.

00:22:05.000 It's so difficult to get there, and there's all these civil wars in that area.

00:22:08.000 It's very dangerous to get through there.

00:22:10.000 Listen, um...

00:22:11.000 They get anywhere.

00:22:12.000 You don't think when we driving by, you see nothing but mountains and no green.

00:22:17.000 You don't think there's people under those mountains or some kind like this, like this.

00:22:21.000 I'll do it in a laboratory.

00:22:22.000 So that's, that's, oh no, that's that chimpanzee.

00:22:25.000 That's the evil one in the worst.

00:22:27.000 Isn't that the one that looks like a human?

00:22:29.000 I think we're looking at a different thing.

00:22:31.000 No, that's the most evil.

00:22:31.000 That one's down here.

00:22:33.000 That one where the guys are taking the photograph with it, the dead one, that's legit.

00:22:37.000 They shot this one at an airport in the Congo, and it's fucking huge.

00:22:42.000 I mean, you look at the size of those guys.

00:22:44.000 It's bigger than them, and it's a chimp.

00:22:46.000 Fuck.

00:22:47.000 And so they called this one, they called them, they had two different names for chimps.

00:22:51.000 That's Thoughts Watch right there.

00:22:53.000 That's Thoughts Watch.

00:22:55.000 They had two different words for chimps.

00:22:56.000 One was tree beaters, and the other one was lion killers.

00:22:59.000 That photo where they're holding that one up, that's another one.

00:23:02.000 I mean, that's a giant fucking chimpanzee.

00:23:04.000 It's way bigger than normal.

00:23:06.000 And one of the things about them is they have these crests down the top of their skull, like a mohawk, that gorillas have.

00:23:13.000 But chimps don't normally have that.

00:23:15.000 So they're an odd subspecies.

00:23:18.000 And there's not that many of them.

00:23:19.000 They're in this one area of the Congo.

00:23:21.000 It's really interesting.

00:23:22.000 I just think, um...

00:23:23.000 At the beginning we were a different species of people.

00:23:26.000 Yes.

00:23:27.000 As you see during the period when we see these people that, what do you call them?

00:23:32.000 The people that do all the digging?

00:23:34.000 Oh yeah, anthropologists.

00:23:36.000 Anthropologists, yeah.

00:23:37.000 Archaeologists.

00:23:40.000 I've seen them, and one particular, it was about Amazons, and one picture that had this one Amazon, she must have been the queen, because she was dead, she was like this, and she had a man in her feet.

00:23:52.000 Oh, shit.

00:23:54.000 He was dead, and she was on top of him.

00:23:56.000 That was how she died?

00:23:57.000 That's how they buried her?

00:23:58.000 That's how they buried her, yeah.

00:23:59.000 In Russia, Ukraine, somewhere.

00:24:01.000 That's heavy.

00:24:02.000 That's a lady that needs a lot of attention.

00:24:04.000 Oh, but there's a bunch of them.

00:24:06.000 Listen, they have statues of men fighting the Amazon.

00:24:09.000 They got guys grabbing them by their head.

00:24:10.000 They got women fighting them back, cutting, you know, jumping on men.

00:24:14.000 They got statues of it.

00:24:17.000 Amazon's fighting.

00:24:19.000 There's all kinds of people out there.

00:24:21.000 Imagine if that's a real thing, if it was a real tribe of super women fighters.

00:24:25.000 You didn't believe that?

00:24:26.000 You think it's a fairy tale?

00:24:28.000 I don't think it's a fairy tale.

00:24:29.000 No, no, no.

00:24:29.000 I just don't know anything about it.

00:24:31.000 Real thing, baby.

00:24:32.000 Real thing.

00:24:33.000 Real deal, baby.

00:24:33.000 So, Amazon women.

00:24:35.000 Like a tribal group of women.

00:24:37.000 Remove their right breath so they can shoot.

00:24:39.000 That's all real?

00:24:40.000 Do you know about this journey?

00:24:41.000 Yeah, they found them buried.

00:24:42.000 I believe it.

00:24:43.000 They removed the right tits so they can shoot.

00:24:46.000 Ow!

00:24:47.000 And they enslaved their babies.

00:24:48.000 Oh god damn, that's crazy to do.

00:24:51.000 If that's true, that is one of the wildest things a person's ever done for combat.

00:24:56.000 Remove part of your body so you can shoot a bow better.

00:24:59.000 Makes sense though.

00:25:01.000 Well, you know, they have their hairstyles.

00:25:03.000 That doesn't make sense.

00:25:05.000 Engage, right?

00:25:06.000 They elongate their head.

00:25:08.000 You know why that doesn't make sense?

00:25:09.000 Because if you're shooting a bow right, your tit shouldn't even come into play.

00:25:13.000 Hey, listen.

00:25:14.000 That's back then.

00:25:15.000 They may have shot it differently then.

00:25:17.000 Maybe.

00:25:18.000 I believe that too.

00:25:20.000 This is a myth busted thing.

00:25:23.000 It's a myth?

00:25:24.000 Yeah, it says it's a fake fact.

00:25:26.000 Well, I was just thinking about, because I shoot bows and arrows.

00:25:30.000 I do archery.

00:25:31.000 And when you use proper technique, the boobs don't even come into play.

00:25:35.000 The string goes from here to here.

00:25:37.000 So you're pulling this back.

00:25:39.000 I don't believe anything during this.

00:25:41.000 They had different signs then than they had now.

00:25:43.000 That's true.

00:25:44.000 They might have had different bows.

00:25:46.000 Maybe they just realized they could hold the bow better and not have to chop a tail off.

00:25:49.000 Maybe they had different gods and they believed different things.

00:25:52.000 That's for sure.

00:25:52.000 Most religion was superstition before it became religion.

00:25:57.000 Religion was superstition.

00:25:59.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:26:00.000 We still are superstitious.

00:26:02.000 I am.

00:26:03.000 You know, we're the biggest Muslims, biggest Christians, biggest Mormons.

00:26:06.000 We're still superstitious.

00:26:08.000 Yeah.

00:26:08.000 And our religion tells superstition is bullcrap.

00:26:11.000 But we're more superstitious than we are religious.

00:26:14.000 You think so?

00:26:15.000 Some people are pretty religious.

00:26:17.000 Some people believe, oh, that black cat crossed the path.

00:26:20.000 Oh, no, you believe that.

00:26:22.000 People believe the superstition.

00:26:23.000 Do you ever imagine what it would be like to live in a different time when there was no written history?

00:26:27.000 And what those people must have been like just passing down knowledge, just talking to each other before they figured out how to write things down?

00:26:34.000 Those are the greatest people of the beginning of the world.

00:26:36.000 Those people, they gave us thought.

00:26:38.000 They gave us the biggest freedom that we could ever have in our life.

00:26:41.000 They gave us thought.

00:26:42.000 Imagine we're still quoting them.

00:26:45.000 We're still quoting Aristotle.

00:26:47.000 We're still quoting Socrates.

00:26:49.000 We're still quoting Genghis Khan.

00:26:51.000 We're quoting people from thousands of years ago.

00:26:54.000 It's pretty wild.

00:26:55.000 Because no matter how sophisticated we become, power is everything.

00:27:00.000 We don't quote them because they had great quotes.

00:27:02.000 We quote them because they were powerful men that had great quotes.

00:27:06.000 There's that and there's also just geniuses like Galileo.

00:27:10.000 Imagine hanging out with that dude.

00:27:12.000 No, listen, these guys are not cool hanging out with.

00:27:15.000 Listen, all these geniuses, we like to be friends with them, but we don't want to live with them.

00:27:21.000 That's probably true, right?

00:27:22.000 Oh, we don't want to live with these genius friends of ours.

00:27:25.000 Oh, they got so many habits.

00:27:26.000 Oh, what the fuck, nigga?

00:27:31.000 Fucking goddamn, though, you need them.

00:27:33.000 You need those geniuses.

00:27:34.000 You're like, nigga, you washing again?

00:27:37.000 Some people just wash all day.

00:27:39.000 They just wash.

00:27:40.000 They take three showers.

00:27:41.000 I have a friend, every time he takes a shit, he takes a shower.

00:27:44.000 Wow.

00:27:45.000 That's a lot of work.

00:27:45.000 Every time he takes a shit, he takes a shower.

00:27:47.000 Why are you doing that?

00:27:47.000 I took a shit.

00:27:48.000 Wow.

00:27:49.000 Every time he takes a shit, he takes a shower.

00:27:51.000 It's a clean man.

00:27:52.000 No, he's an asshole.

00:27:53.000 He's an asshole.

00:27:58.000 Oh, man.

00:28:00.000 Those are weird habits that we have.

00:28:03.000 I leave him next time.

00:28:04.000 Every time he goes, I just leave.

00:28:06.000 I ain't gonna leave.

00:28:07.000 What the fuck?

00:28:07.000 You go to the bathroom and you gotta take a shower.

00:28:09.000 How long does it take for?

00:28:10.000 I just don't want to do it, man.

00:28:11.000 I don't know how long.

00:28:12.000 You gotta take a shit, then you gotta take a shower?

00:28:14.000 What the fuck?

00:28:15.000 Get the fuck out of here, man.

00:28:16.000 Why does your buddy go use your bathroom?

00:28:17.000 Where's your towels?

00:28:19.000 Like, what?

00:28:21.000 He's in there hosing down.

00:28:22.000 Yeah.

00:28:25.000 Sick people.

00:28:28.000 Man, just being around Galileo and he's trying to tell you, hey man, all this shit they think about where the earth is and the sun is, they're all wrong.

00:28:36.000 Everybody's wrong.

00:28:38.000 He was getting high with some people, there's no doubt.

00:28:40.000 No doubt.

00:28:41.000 Do you ever look at the history of drugs?

00:28:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:28:44.000 Holy moly!

00:28:46.000 We're talking about the burning bush and everything's in there, man.

00:28:49.000 Yeah, the burning bush.

00:28:49.000 Yeah, the burning bush is DMT. I love the burning bush.

00:28:53.000 It makes sense.

00:28:54.000 They say that that tree that is in that area, the acacia tree, that tree is rich in DMT. This book I read, what's the word?

00:29:03.000 The Thing?

00:29:04.000 What was it?

00:29:08.000 I forgot, but I did it in an audio book, and if you heard this guy reading, you'd think this guy is hot.

00:29:14.000 What is it about?

00:29:15.000 I forgot the...

00:29:17.000 Have you read, there's a great audio book that I listen to called The Immortality Key.

00:29:22.000 And I had a guy on the podcast who wrote the book.

00:29:25.000 Immortal Code?

00:29:27.000 No, The Immortality Key is all about psychedelics in ancient religions.

00:29:32.000 And it's, he's got, they've opened up a field of study at Harvard, so they're studying this at Harvard now.

00:29:38.000 All the ancient Greeks, they were all tripping.

00:29:40.000 Yeah.

00:29:41.000 That's what they were doing.

00:29:42.000 They have evidence now, Mike.

00:29:44.000 They found these ancient pots that they use for their ceremonies and there's an LSD residue on them.

00:29:49.000 I know.

00:29:50.000 Alexander the Great, when he went to, listen, he fell in love with the Afghan people.

00:29:55.000 When he went there, he got fucked up.

00:29:57.000 I'm sure.

00:29:58.000 He said, oh, I love you guys.

00:30:00.000 That's what he said.

00:30:00.000 Your guys are so beautiful.

00:30:02.000 God made your guys so beautiful.

00:30:04.000 God.

00:30:05.000 All his men, like every one of his men, they got killed.

00:30:07.000 Next thing you know, they got Afghanian generals.

00:30:10.000 They say, we're supposed to rule these people.

00:30:11.000 Why we got these guys like generals?

00:30:13.000 He fell in love with them.

00:30:14.000 They got him high off the hash and all that.

00:30:16.000 Wow.

00:30:17.000 They fell in love with him.

00:30:18.000 Wow.

00:30:19.000 That makes sense.

00:30:21.000 It really does.

00:30:22.000 That's why you see the Afghanis that got that bushy hair?

00:30:27.000 Alexander, his men, the Greeks back then, they were mixed back then, the Greeks, so they had the bushy hair, too.

00:30:33.000 You look at the Greeks now, they don't have the bushy hair like they had back then.

00:30:37.000 They were mountain men.

00:30:39.000 Well, we know the Vikings took a lot of mushrooms.

00:30:42.000 We knew that.

00:30:43.000 Listen, the Vikings are just getting high on anything.

00:30:46.000 Blood, bones, whatever, man.

00:30:48.000 The Vikings, that was an interesting...

00:30:50.000 Yeah.

00:30:50.000 That was interesting.

00:30:51.000 There's nothing, you know...

00:30:52.000 Nothing like that.

00:30:53.000 You would think they're not savages.

00:30:55.000 They're just great fighters.

00:30:56.000 Right.

00:30:56.000 But they live a very respectable life, healthy life, great culture.

00:31:02.000 Great.

00:31:02.000 There was a strong culture, like a fierce warrior culture.

00:31:06.000 And then those people, like, populated places like Iceland.

00:31:09.000 I know, but listen, those guys, those vicious savages, those guys are farmers.

00:31:14.000 Look at these vikings.

00:31:15.000 They're marauders.

00:31:16.000 These guys are farmers.

00:31:17.000 They're just farmers that know how to fight.

00:31:19.000 After a while, they did kind of become farmers, right?

00:31:22.000 Yeah.

00:31:23.000 More than fighting, you gotta eat.

00:31:26.000 You gotta set up your civilization.

00:31:27.000 You gotta sanitize the civilization.

00:31:29.000 What was that show on?

00:31:31.000 It was on A&E or something like that?

00:31:33.000 What was Vikings on?

00:31:34.000 Yeah, Vikings.

00:31:35.000 That was a good fucking show.

00:31:37.000 I got into it with my wife for a while.

00:31:39.000 We watched it for a few seasons, but she got tired of watching people get chopped up.

00:31:43.000 A lot of people got chopped up back then.

00:31:44.000 But they were doing it because they were dying.

00:31:46.000 They needed to expand.

00:31:47.000 Well, they also sacrificed people's lives and shit, like they had human sacrifice, and in one of the episodes it's like, whoa.

00:31:54.000 And it's based all around what they really did, how the Vikings really lived, with some liberties.

00:32:02.000 The Vikings became Tsars, the Vikings became kings, the Vikings took over the world, they became African kings.

00:32:08.000 Listen there, they became kings, they took over the world.

00:32:12.000 Even in different cultures, even in the Chinese, the black culture, they have Viking blood.

00:32:18.000 Wow.

00:32:20.000 Because what the Westman called it, the Vandals went to Africa.

00:32:23.000 The Vandals went to Africa.

00:32:28.000 It's wild when you see all those people that live in Iceland and how fucking big they are.

00:32:32.000 Like those giant strongmen guys, most of them are from Iceland.

00:32:36.000 It's like a large percentage of those strongest men in the world guys are all from Iceland.

00:32:40.000 They're fucking huge up there.

00:32:42.000 It's weird in the cold they get bigger and in the heat they get smaller.

00:32:46.000 That's what deer do too.

00:32:47.000 Yeah.

00:32:48.000 It's a mammal thing.

00:32:49.000 Yeah, they're warm so they stay smaller.

00:32:52.000 Yeah.

00:32:53.000 Well, when it's hot out, it's easier to disperse the energy if you have a smaller body.

00:32:58.000 Exactly.

00:32:58.000 If you see the Siberian tiger and you see the Indian tiger, ooh, totally different.

00:33:05.000 Siberian's way bigger, right?

00:33:06.000 Monsters!

00:33:08.000 Monsters!

00:33:08.000 Isn't that interesting?

00:33:09.000 But them Indian ones are mean as fuck.

00:33:12.000 Those are mean as fuck.

00:33:13.000 I think the Siberians, they're so cold, they have to be mean.

00:33:16.000 They're hungry all the time.

00:33:17.000 They can fight a polar bear.

00:33:20.000 That's true, too.

00:33:22.000 I wonder which one eats people more.

00:33:24.000 I bet it would be the Indian one.

00:33:25.000 Yeah, because they know what happens.

00:33:27.000 You know in Siberia, you know how fucking much land they have out there in Siberia?

00:33:31.000 That's ice before you can reach civilization.

00:33:34.000 In India, they keep infringing on their land, so they have one-on-one confrontation with the tiger in India.

00:33:43.000 They keep approaching on his land, cutting down trees, and he needs the big trees to hide, and they run right into him.

00:33:50.000 Yeah.

00:33:51.000 Did you see the tiger on that thing when he jumped on the elephant and took the guy's fingers off?

00:33:56.000 Yeah.

00:33:57.000 He looked so beautiful when they opened up the tiger.

00:34:00.000 It's crazy that he knew that there was a person on top of that elephant, too.

00:34:03.000 It wasn't just the elephant.

00:34:04.000 He wanted to get the guy on top of the elephant.

00:34:06.000 Yeah, because there was a tiger around killing some cows and stuff.

00:34:11.000 So they were looking for him, and they were hitting the trees, and he just came and went in the air.

00:34:15.000 Wow.

00:34:16.000 And I was on the elephant.

00:34:17.000 The elephant's like 10, 11 foot tall.

00:34:20.000 Imagine seeing that thing flying through the air trying to get you.

00:34:24.000 He's like 700 pounds coming at you.

00:34:26.000 Boom.

00:34:27.000 That's how big they get.

00:34:29.000 Look at his hair go right here.

00:34:30.000 Look at that.

00:34:31.000 Look, that's more than 10. Oh, my God.

00:34:33.000 That thing flew.

00:34:34.000 Look at this guy.

00:34:35.000 Look at him.

00:34:35.000 You see him moving?

00:34:36.000 Oh, you see this dirty motherfucker moving?

00:34:38.000 Look how slick he is.

00:34:39.000 Look at him.

00:34:39.000 He came out of nowhere.

00:34:41.000 Out of nowhere.

00:34:42.000 Wow!

00:34:42.000 God!

00:34:43.000 Oh, my God.

00:34:44.000 That's the guy that lost his stuff, huh?

00:34:45.000 Yeah.

00:34:46.000 His arm got fucked up.

00:34:49.000 Yeah, he was eating that stuff.

00:34:51.000 So he was eating cows, and they were trying to kick him out of the area.

00:34:54.000 And they came on these, look at the elephant, like 10 foot tall, man.

00:34:57.000 Could you imagine that job?

00:34:59.000 You gotta keep the monsters out of the grass.

00:35:01.000 Look at the mouth.

00:35:03.000 Oh my God!

00:35:04.000 Look at that fucking mouth, just looking to eat you, murder you.

00:35:08.000 And what, this guy just froze.

00:35:10.000 He froze.

00:35:11.000 There's this area of India called the Sundarbans and it's this river where the water is not quite fresh.

00:35:18.000 It's all brackish.

00:35:19.000 There's too much salt in the water.

00:35:20.000 And they think it might be one of the reasons why the tigers are so aggressive there.

00:35:23.000 They're constantly irritated.

00:35:25.000 But the tigers in that area have killed some insane amount of people over the last hundred years.

00:35:31.000 You've heard a tiger grab that lady out of the car?

00:35:32.000 Oh, yeah, I did.

00:35:33.000 When they had an argument, they had an argument, so she got out the car.

00:35:36.000 Get the fuck out the car, nigga.

00:35:37.000 Get the fuck out the car.

00:35:39.000 And the guy tried to run back, and the next thing you know, he ran to the car.

00:35:41.000 He said, hold on, let them go.

00:35:42.000 You know, she lived.

00:35:43.000 The mother died.

00:35:44.000 Get out of here.

00:35:44.000 Yeah, the mother died.

00:35:45.000 Because the mother went to save her, and the mother got killed by a tiger.

00:35:48.000 Whew.

00:35:49.000 She fucking lived.

00:35:50.000 That thing dragged her off.

00:35:52.000 Whatever she gets, I just want to argue with a motherfucker.

00:35:54.000 Say, get out the car, nigga!

00:35:55.000 Get the fuck out!

00:35:56.000 I don't want to hear this shit!

00:35:57.000 Get the fuck out!

00:35:58.000 Alright!

00:35:59.000 Could you imagine being with a woman who's so fucking crazy that she pulls one of those, get out the car.

00:36:04.000 That's what it was!

00:36:05.000 That's what it was!

00:36:05.000 In a fucking park filled with tigers.

00:36:08.000 I'm not going to say anybody deserves that, but some people need to just stop the bullshit, you know?

00:36:15.000 Nobody deserves that, but everybody should know that that's on the menu.

00:36:19.000 Don't get out the car!

00:36:20.000 Why would you get the fucking out the car?

00:36:22.000 Jamie, find that video, please.

00:36:24.000 Oh, Jamie, don't do this to society.

00:36:26.000 It's horrible that this happened, but, you know, it happened.

00:36:29.000 Listen, my wife thinks something's wrong with me, because, listen...

00:36:32.000 I was at one of my shows, and it was one of those elevated stage.

00:36:36.000 So the guy was like, I don't know, 40 feet in the air.

00:36:39.000 And he said, hey, Mike, you like my clothes?

00:36:40.000 And he tried to jump on the stage, but he jumped on his leg at the stage, and he kept going down.

00:36:46.000 I'm laughing.

00:36:46.000 My wife is looking at me.

00:36:47.000 Why are you laughing at people in Australia looking at me?

00:36:50.000 And I just couldn't help it.

00:36:52.000 Oh, man, check this out.

00:36:55.000 Oh, look, she gets out of the car.

00:36:57.000 Get the fuck out of the car, nigga.

00:36:58.000 Stop, nigga.

00:36:58.000 Get the fuck out of the car.

00:36:59.000 I'm telling you, I'm tired of that bullshit.

00:37:01.000 Fuck you.

00:37:02.000 So she's making all this noise.

00:37:03.000 Look at this.

00:37:04.000 Just come here.

00:37:04.000 I mean, god damn.

00:37:08.000 I thought I would be the last.

00:37:10.000 Look what she said.

00:37:11.000 Get out the car.

00:37:11.000 Get out the car now.

00:37:13.000 Come on.

00:37:13.000 Get out now.

00:37:14.000 She's out of that car for how long?

00:37:16.000 15 seconds?

00:37:17.000 Come on.

00:37:17.000 Get out the car now.

00:37:18.000 I command you.

00:37:19.000 Get the fuck out the car.

00:37:20.000 I'm tired of this shit, Bill.

00:37:22.000 What a wake-up call.

00:37:28.000 We need to know.

00:37:29.000 People need to know.

00:37:30.000 There's people like that in the world that will get out of a car and cause a crazy scene in a tiger park.

00:37:37.000 Addicted to chaos, man.

00:37:38.000 They're addicted to chaos.

00:37:39.000 I was in that world at once.

00:37:42.000 Addicted to chaos.

00:37:43.000 There's a lot of people addicted to chaos.

00:37:46.000 It's a drug.

00:37:46.000 It's a narcotic, man.

00:37:49.000 This area in the Sundarbans, these guys, they have to do a survey of how many tigers there are just so they can keep track, and they go with rifles, and they have these helmets on, and the helmets have a face on the back of the head.

00:38:00.000 Yeah, that's what I had to do.

00:38:01.000 I had a mask.

00:38:02.000 I had a mask.

00:38:02.000 Really?

00:38:02.000 You had to do that?

00:38:03.000 When I turned around, I had a mask, yeah.

00:38:05.000 Wow.

00:38:06.000 You had to do that or he would jump on you?

00:38:08.000 Well, they think I'm running and shit, and they're playing.

00:38:11.000 And if they accidentally, because they chew on my arm and stuff, and if they accidentally bite my head, they can hurt me by accident.

00:38:17.000 They don't mean it.

00:38:18.000 Right, right, right.

00:38:19.000 When they're on my shoulder and arm, I let them bite me and my legs and stuff.

00:38:22.000 And you're just playing.

00:38:22.000 Yeah, but they can pierce my skull.

00:38:25.000 Jesus.

00:38:26.000 How big did they get?

00:38:28.000 600, 500. That's when they're eating good, man.

00:38:31.000 That's when they're eating good.

00:38:33.000 But you never felt nervous around them, or you never felt like they might kill one of your friends accidentally?

00:38:39.000 Definitely one of my friends and family members.

00:38:42.000 You know, the relationship with tigers and stuff are different than with lions and stuff.

00:38:46.000 Lions are like dogs and stuff.

00:38:48.000 They like hanging out with family, but tigers only hang out with you.

00:38:51.000 Oh, really?

00:38:52.000 Yeah, only with you.

00:38:53.000 And you better hope he doesn't like one of your children.

00:38:57.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:38:57.000 Because then you can't play with your children.

00:38:59.000 He might kill you.

00:39:00.000 Oh, my God.

00:39:01.000 It's crazy.

00:39:02.000 That's what the tigers are crazy.

00:39:03.000 They get attached to one person.

00:39:05.000 Oh, my God.

00:39:06.000 They're not no family people.

00:39:08.000 One person.

00:39:11.000 They don't fuck around with a whole bunch of people.

00:39:13.000 They're not like lying.

00:39:14.000 Lions hang out there on the front table of your table, hanging out with the family and stuff.

00:39:18.000 Really?

00:39:18.000 Yeah, tigers don't do that.

00:39:20.000 You notice in the wild, anything that see them, they're gonna kill.

00:39:24.000 Yeah.

00:39:25.000 They don't even want to be seen.

00:39:26.000 Only time they're with a female is when it's mating season.

00:39:29.000 That's the mating season.

00:39:29.000 If they see you, they're gonna kill you.

00:39:33.000 I wonder why they have that coloration, that beautiful pattern on their body.

00:39:37.000 I wonder if that's just because it's so...

00:39:39.000 When you see a tiger that looks that stunning, like all the...

00:39:42.000 I bet it makes you freeze more.

00:39:44.000 Yeah.

00:39:44.000 Because it's so stunning.

00:39:45.000 Like, they look so...

00:39:46.000 They look beautiful.

00:39:48.000 When I was over at a gentleman's house that had a tiger, we were talking about, and I saw this cat, it's called a tabby.

00:39:53.000 They're different than the stripe.

00:39:54.000 They have, like, patches of orange.

00:39:56.000 They're not stripes.

00:39:57.000 They're patches.

00:39:58.000 On like cream color.

00:40:00.000 And I was going to hug the cat.

00:40:01.000 He said, Mike, don't hug the cat.

00:40:03.000 Just go down a little.

00:40:05.000 It was so pretty.

00:40:06.000 I said, oh my God.

00:40:07.000 He said, no, Mike, don't touch it.

00:40:08.000 And I forget it wasn't my cat.

00:40:10.000 If it's not your cat, don't touch the cat.

00:40:12.000 Yeah.

00:40:12.000 If it's not your cat, don't touch it.

00:40:14.000 Some cats will fuck you up.

00:40:15.000 Ooh.

00:40:16.000 Yeah.

00:40:16.000 Without knowing.

00:40:17.000 They hit you.

00:40:18.000 They punch you just like.

00:40:19.000 Knock you cold.

00:40:20.000 Yeah.

00:40:21.000 Knock you cold.

00:40:23.000 But having a big cat for a pet.

00:40:26.000 I used to swim in the pool with them.

00:40:28.000 Really?

00:40:29.000 And enough swimming.

00:40:30.000 So what did you do when you weren't around?

00:40:32.000 Like, if you had to leave, if you had to go to camp, if you had to do anything, like, what did you do with the cats?

00:40:36.000 They came with me.

00:40:38.000 Really?

00:40:38.000 They traveled with you?

00:40:39.000 I had 18 wheels.

00:40:40.000 I have big trucks.

00:40:42.000 They live big, baby.

00:40:44.000 I'm the heavyweight champ of the world.

00:40:46.000 They live big.

00:40:46.000 When I go somewhere, they go with me.

00:40:48.000 Even if it takes days in the thing.

00:40:52.000 I would have them expedited on the plane.

00:40:57.000 I didn't care.

00:40:59.000 So when you got to a place, like say if you were training for a fight and you brought them with you, what would you do?

00:41:04.000 Have a cage set up for them?

00:41:06.000 No.

00:41:06.000 I would have the trucks.

00:41:07.000 I would always have the...

00:41:10.000 Encavement, already built at the house.

00:41:12.000 But first thing more than all, I would have my receipt for my tax.

00:41:16.000 You know, you have to have, every time they move, you have to have a license for them.

00:41:18.000 If they move to Vegas, all right, we have to have the Vegas.

00:41:20.000 Like, they move to New York, we need a New York license.

00:41:22.000 Right, right, right.

00:41:23.000 And New York is so hard to get a life for live animals, you know, endangered species.

00:41:27.000 So hard.

00:41:28.000 There was a dude, they found an alligator in his apartment.

00:41:31.000 Listen, an alligator.

00:41:32.000 No, no, that's not what happens.

00:41:35.000 This is what they had.

00:41:36.000 In New York, right?

00:41:37.000 Yes, in New York.

00:41:38.000 He had an alligator in the bathtub.

00:41:40.000 And he had a tiger.

00:41:41.000 Yes.

00:41:42.000 And they started, oh, this is stupid.

00:41:44.000 Listen.

00:41:44.000 Just listen to this.

00:41:46.000 No, you have to listen.

00:41:47.000 You gonna listen to this?

00:41:47.000 Yes, please.

00:41:48.000 He thought he was somebody's false parent.

00:41:52.000 The tiger and the lion started to fight.

00:41:54.000 No, the tiger and the alligator started to fight, and he tried to break it up.

00:41:58.000 Can you imagine you have an alligator and a tiger in your apartment?

00:42:04.000 No, listen.

00:42:05.000 How do you do that in New York City?

00:42:06.000 The tiger's 400 pounds, man.

00:42:09.000 Ain't no little tiger.

00:42:11.000 It's not a little tiger.

00:42:12.000 Remember the guy in the subway had a 500 pound tiger?

00:42:14.000 Yeah.

00:42:14.000 It was a guy that lived in New York in the subway.

00:42:17.000 He had a 500 pound tiger in the subway.

00:42:18.000 That is so crazy.

00:42:19.000 Look at the size of that thing.

00:42:20.000 Look at this stuff.

00:42:21.000 Look at New York police.

00:42:22.000 Look, I told you.

00:42:22.000 This is in his house, man.

00:42:24.000 That is so crazy.

00:42:25.000 No, no, no.

00:42:27.000 Look how big that thing is, man.

00:42:29.000 Joe, Joe.

00:42:30.000 Look how big that is.

00:42:31.000 No, no, Joe.

00:42:32.000 Joe, we're living with these cats.

00:42:34.000 Look, that's my cat that big.

00:42:35.000 But Joe, look.

00:42:35.000 We're living with these cats and they're not trained.

00:42:38.000 My cat lives with me, sleeps in my bed.

00:42:41.000 This is a wild cat, man!

00:42:45.000 Oh my god, look at the face on that thing!

00:42:47.000 You can't hang out with this cat, man!

00:42:50.000 They're so beautiful, though.

00:42:51.000 Look at his face.

00:42:52.000 Look at that face of that cat in the window with the cop.

00:42:56.000 That's the 42 fake-out, man.

00:42:58.000 That's so pretty.

00:42:59.000 He's hanging, by the way.

00:43:00.000 He's floating in the air.

00:43:02.000 He's looking at this cat.

00:43:03.000 Oh, he's dropping down from the ceiling.

00:43:04.000 From the roof.

00:43:06.000 Oh, my God.

00:43:06.000 I know.

00:43:07.000 He's like, ain't this some bullshit?

00:43:08.000 Look at that cat's face, though.

00:43:10.000 Look how pretty they are.

00:43:12.000 Oh no, that's the fake out, man.

00:43:14.000 That's how they get you to fucking stand still.

00:43:17.000 I think that's what I'm saying.

00:43:18.000 I think they're so beautiful, I think that might be it.

00:43:21.000 Because they're colorations in the...

00:43:23.000 I mean, it's not sneaky, right?

00:43:25.000 No, but this is the thing, right?

00:43:27.000 This is the thing.

00:43:28.000 I never understood about tigers, right?

00:43:31.000 They don't want you to look at them.

00:43:33.000 No, cats don't want you to look at them.

00:43:35.000 That's like a show of dominance.

00:43:36.000 Yeah, the tigers don't want you to look at them.

00:43:38.000 What's your fucking problem?

00:43:40.000 I'm going to play with them.

00:43:42.000 Dogs have a problem with that, too, sometimes.

00:43:44.000 They don't make that face-to-face stuff.

00:43:46.000 Well, they think you're challenging them.

00:43:47.000 That's what it is?

00:43:48.000 Yeah, they don't understand.

00:43:50.000 I'm thinking for my love.

00:43:51.000 I'm doing love.

00:43:52.000 I think you love me.

00:43:53.000 They don't know that.

00:43:55.000 When they love each other, it's like sideways action.

00:43:59.000 They love on each other, but they don't stare eye to eye.

00:44:02.000 Eye to eye is like, I don't know what you're thinking.

00:44:04.000 You might be challenging.

00:44:05.000 Next thing you know, you're going through your head.

00:44:07.000 Some dogs will do that if you eyeball them.

00:44:09.000 That's why this zoo is so crazy.

00:44:10.000 I never knew that since you said, look in the face.

00:44:12.000 They think you're challenging them for dominance.

00:44:14.000 Like, my golden retriever, you met my, um, Marshall.

00:44:17.000 When he was here.

00:44:17.000 Yeah.

00:44:18.000 We have pictures of you cuddling with them.

00:44:19.000 They don't, um...

00:44:20.000 But those are, like, the sweetest dogs.

00:44:22.000 They don't challenge you ever.

00:44:23.000 So he never, like, really lets...

00:44:24.000 He looks me in the eyes just because we've known each other for so long.

00:44:27.000 He knows it's not, like, a challenging thing.

00:44:29.000 That we're just being sweet to each other.

00:44:31.000 But dog, even a dog like that doesn't like looking you in the eye.

00:44:34.000 They like looking around your eyes.

00:44:35.000 They look at your face.

00:44:36.000 You know, what's interesting about big cats, especially tigers...

00:44:39.000 If a tiger, if you go, like, I see my tiger running in the cave, man.

00:44:43.000 If I go and I see him and he's happy to see me, they run to the gate, I go in, I play with him, I bring him out with me.

00:44:48.000 But if I go there and they're like this, nah, the day's not the day to go in there.

00:44:53.000 You stare him eye to eye, he'll go, what the fuck are you doing?

00:44:57.000 And then I ask, they're just looking at you, no, no, that's not a good day.

00:45:01.000 Oh, no.

00:45:02.000 Don't go in there that day when they're just looking at you.

00:45:05.000 It's crazy that people love to have pets like that.

00:45:08.000 They love it.

00:45:09.000 To live in an apartment and have a tiger like that.

00:45:13.000 How much did he have to feed it?

00:45:16.000 Listen.

00:45:18.000 And where's all the shit going?

00:45:19.000 They don't eat much, but they eat all day.

00:45:21.000 Oh.

00:45:22.000 They eat a little all day.

00:45:24.000 Well, they're so big.

00:45:26.000 So he must be just giving it raw meat, right?

00:45:28.000 Yeah, chicken.

00:45:30.000 Yeah, a lot of chicken.

00:45:31.000 I like giving them chicken and I give them horse meat.

00:45:33.000 Like you give them a whole chicken, right?

00:45:35.000 I give them two or three of them, but then I give them the horse meat.

00:45:38.000 This is when it gets fun when you get the whole side of a cow or a side of a horse.

00:45:43.000 Like this whole rib in you.

00:45:44.000 Just throw it in there and they slam it.

00:45:46.000 Boom!

00:45:47.000 Hit it against the fence and hit it in the air and they grab it and they run inside.

00:45:51.000 Like a joke.

00:45:52.000 Did you ever see the video from the Iraqi zoo when the U.S. soldiers first took it over?

00:45:58.000 Did you ever see that?

00:45:59.000 No, no, he had the giraffes and all that stuff there.

00:46:02.000 Well, there was an Iraqi zoo and when the U.S. soldiers first got there, the way they would feed the lions, they would just let goats go.

00:46:10.000 Just let them go and let the lions kill them and everybody would watch.

00:46:13.000 Yeah, that's not good.

00:46:15.000 But isn't that the way they're supposed to do it?

00:46:16.000 No way.

00:46:17.000 Because they'll get too into killing things.

00:46:22.000 What is this?

00:46:30.000 Oh, they made a movie about it?

00:46:33.000 Oh, no shit.

00:46:34.000 This is in Harlem, man.

00:46:35.000 Oh, Jamie, send me this.

00:46:37.000 Send me a link to this, please.

00:46:39.000 I need to watch this documentary.

00:46:41.000 That's the dude?

00:46:42.000 I don't want to say things about him.

00:46:44.000 It's crazy.

00:46:46.000 He's got a fucking tiger in his house.

00:46:47.000 No, listen.

00:46:49.000 These animals make you believe that you can control them.

00:46:53.000 They give you the four senses of security that you're in control.

00:46:57.000 They're smart.

00:46:58.000 They know what they're doing.

00:47:00.000 They say, oh, he really wants me to lay down with him and play with him?

00:47:03.000 Oh, really?

00:47:04.000 Yeah.

00:47:05.000 That's so weird.

00:47:06.000 Oh really?

00:47:06.000 I'm gonna give him a fart.

00:47:07.000 Let me see how you like that.

00:47:09.000 Or maybe I do a good dump in the bed.

00:47:11.000 Let's see how he likes that.

00:47:13.000 You really like me?

00:47:14.000 Does shit right in your bed?

00:47:16.000 Nigga, no, but definitely.

00:47:17.000 I didn't have that, but they farted.

00:47:19.000 Farting, they might as well shit.

00:47:21.000 If they fart, they might as well shit.

00:47:22.000 How bad is a tiger fart?

00:47:24.000 Oh, man.

00:47:25.000 Listen, the house fucked up.

00:47:27.000 All the windows gotta be open.

00:47:28.000 You gotta firmigate it.

00:47:30.000 You gotta call some motherfuckers in.

00:47:33.000 You know when they be smoking the house to clear the shade?

00:47:39.000 What the fuck happened?

00:47:40.000 They said, Mike, what the fuck happened, Mike?

00:47:46.000 Oh, my God.

00:47:47.000 You know, it makes sense.

00:47:48.000 All they eat is raw meat.

00:47:50.000 People are staying at my house.

00:47:51.000 Oh, fuck them.

00:47:52.000 I gotta go.

00:47:53.000 They're back when they start leaving.

00:47:54.000 What the fuck, man?

00:47:55.000 Tiger farts make them leave.

00:47:57.000 Oh, shit.

00:47:59.000 Oh, my God.

00:48:01.000 I ain't doing this shit, Mike.

00:48:03.000 Of course.

00:48:04.000 Of course tiger farts are the worst.

00:48:07.000 That only makes sense.

00:48:08.000 That's hilarious.

00:48:09.000 Listen, listen.

00:48:10.000 You have no idea.

00:48:11.000 You would think that this is not real.

00:48:13.000 This is not coming out of anything that breathes air.

00:48:18.000 This didn't come out of something that breathes air.

00:48:20.000 There's no fucking way, Joe.

00:48:24.000 I can only imagine.

00:48:28.000 I was talking to this dude who's a wildlife expert.

00:48:31.000 He said one of the more distressing parts about the zoo is that people get to stare at animals.

00:48:35.000 He goes, there's no other world where anything gets to stare, anything with eyes in the front of its face.

00:48:40.000 Hey, maybe you want to check at one time in life they did experiment when they put people in the zoo.

00:48:45.000 Oh, wow.

00:48:46.000 You want to check that one out?

00:48:47.000 The human zoo?

00:48:50.000 And it was real people in there fucking in front of people looking at them, eating.

00:48:56.000 I don't want to give people any ideas.

00:48:58.000 I wouldn't want to have a human zoo because I wouldn't want people having any fucking ideas.

00:49:02.000 Listen, I know we don't like Alex Jones and stuff, but Listen, check this out, right?

00:49:07.000 I like it.

00:49:08.000 I know people don't know.

00:49:08.000 But listen, whatever you think a human did to another human being, it happened.

00:49:15.000 Yes.

00:49:15.000 If anything, I don't know if it fucked me, ate or whatever it is, it happened.

00:49:18.000 Somewhere in history it definitely happened.

00:49:20.000 Yes.

00:49:20.000 It probably happened somewhere this year.

00:49:21.000 Yes.

00:49:22.000 And sometimes in these special camps and stuff, it happens.

00:49:25.000 These people own these thousands of acres and nothing grows on them.

00:49:31.000 Weird ranches where people meet and do rituals.

00:49:34.000 Might want to hunt a motherfucker and let him go.

00:49:36.000 That's not outside the realm of possibility.

00:49:39.000 I know, that's why I'm throwing it at you.

00:49:40.000 I guarantee you there's been someone somewhere in the world who paid someone to hunt a person.

00:49:46.000 I guarantee you that's happened.

00:49:48.000 Listen, no.

00:49:48.000 This is what happened.

00:49:49.000 They take these homeless people off the streets, put them in there, take them to one of these special hospitals, they take them from that hospital, may have them drugged up, take them on these large estates of property.

00:50:00.000 Let's hunt.

00:50:01.000 Run.

00:50:02.000 Jesus Christ.

00:50:03.000 Nigga, run.

00:50:05.000 No, really, I really believe that.

00:50:06.000 I really believe that.

00:50:07.000 I think, well, that book, The Most Dangerous Game, didn't that come out in like the 30s?

00:50:13.000 It's an old, old book about that very thing, rich people hunting poor people.

00:50:18.000 The only reason we hunt the fox, why is the only reason we hunt fox?

00:50:22.000 I think there's their fur.

00:50:24.000 The fox is the only one that backstracts.

00:50:27.000 Oh, because it's sneaky.

00:50:28.000 He's the only one that backstracts.

00:50:30.000 If he chases, if he chases, he'll go forward, then he'll come backwards and go this way.

00:50:34.000 To trick you.

00:50:35.000 Yeah, that's why that's the only really challenging chase.

00:50:40.000 Everything else is too easy.

00:50:42.000 It's too simple-minded.

00:50:43.000 The fox is the only one that's challenging.

00:50:45.000 Oh, that's interesting.

00:50:46.000 That makes sense.

00:50:47.000 I never thought about it that way.

00:50:48.000 And so now they say, well, the fox is the most reasonable animal.

00:50:52.000 Let's try a human animal and see how reasonable he is.

00:50:57.000 Guaranteed.

00:50:57.000 Guaranteed someone's done that.

00:50:58.000 They want to challenge reasonability.

00:51:03.000 Let's see how he thinks.

00:51:04.000 How is he superior than us?

00:51:07.000 They're not going to do anything they think that's inferior than them.

00:51:12.000 They're going to study what they're going to attack or what they're going to make their victim.

00:51:19.000 For sure, people have done that, right?

00:51:22.000 Anything you think a human being could do, he did it to another human being.

00:51:26.000 But that one, like an organized one like that, where they're hunting someone, for sure that's happened.

00:51:30.000 Hey, listen.

00:51:32.000 I don't care.

00:51:32.000 How much fun would that be?

00:51:35.000 No, you think about it.

00:51:36.000 Forget who's watching you and what people think about you, but how much fun would that be?

00:51:40.000 Depends on who the guy is.

00:51:41.000 No, that too.

00:51:42.000 Imagine if he's smarter than you.

00:51:44.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:51:45.000 You know, and you can't catch him and he's smarter than you and he kills you.

00:51:51.000 That's what it is.

00:51:53.000 Don't they allow them to have some weapons and stuff?

00:51:58.000 And this kind of stuff.

00:51:59.000 I heard they allowed them to have women.

00:52:01.000 They didn't just chase them.

00:52:01.000 I'm sure there's different rules.

00:52:03.000 Yeah.

00:52:03.000 I'm sure different people have different ways of doing it to make it more sporting.

00:52:06.000 Yeah.

00:52:07.000 You know, I think some people...

00:52:08.000 It's not sporting when they're not fighting back.

00:52:10.000 Right.

00:52:10.000 I don't care how much of a smug you are.

00:52:11.000 It's just not as much excitement if a punch is not coming at you.

00:52:14.000 Right.

00:52:15.000 Maybe they give you, like, a set of tools.

00:52:17.000 Then they'll know you're going to fail with.

00:52:18.000 Yeah.

00:52:18.000 But it'll be interesting.

00:52:19.000 At least you have a possibility of succeeding.

00:52:22.000 Make it a little more exciting for them.

00:52:24.000 It becomes exciting.

00:52:25.000 You know, it only becomes exciting when the rabbit gets the gun.

00:52:28.000 If the rabbit don't have a gun, it tells me it's just going to be a shooting fish in a bucket.

00:52:34.000 Yeah, hunting a human being, Jesus Christ.

00:52:37.000 What a terrifying thought that people would be into doing that.

00:52:41.000 But if I had to guess yes or no, I would say definitely people have done it.

00:52:45.000 And there's going to be somebody with the ego saying, they're not going to kill me.

00:52:48.000 They're not going to kill me.

00:52:49.000 I'm going to survive this.

00:52:50.000 Especially if you put up a big prize reward.

00:52:53.000 You say, like, you know, I'll make five million bucks.

00:52:56.000 If you live, you make five million dollars.

00:52:58.000 No.

00:52:59.000 I bet a lot of people would tell you that.

00:52:59.000 It has nothing to do with money.

00:53:01.000 Just live or die.

00:53:02.000 Your instance of your life.

00:53:03.000 Right, but I mean, how many people would risk it just to see if they could win money?

00:53:07.000 Like if you had a show like that where you...

00:53:09.000 So look at it like this.

00:53:10.000 Say you were in poverty all your life.

00:53:12.000 If you know you...

00:53:13.000 If someone could take your heart right now out your heart, your parents, your family would be rich.

00:53:17.000 Right.

00:53:18.000 What would you do?

00:53:20.000 You might do it.

00:53:21.000 Exactly.

00:53:21.000 Well, some people will.

00:53:22.000 You might do it.

00:53:22.000 Some people would do it.

00:53:23.000 You'd be surprised how selfish some people are.

00:53:25.000 Right.

00:53:25.000 A lot of people would be like, no, I'll work this out on my own.

00:53:27.000 Yeah.

00:53:28.000 No, take my family.

00:53:29.000 That's why you kill them.

00:53:31.000 I mean, it's one of those questions like, would you really believe them?

00:53:35.000 You're gonna let them kill you?

00:53:36.000 You believe they're gonna take care of your family?

00:53:38.000 Are you sure?

00:53:39.000 That's a risky move.

00:53:40.000 Maybe you want to believe it.

00:53:42.000 Yeah, you want to believe it to end the suffering.

00:53:46.000 A person to take care of your family if you kill somebody you don't like, later before you do something really spectacular.

00:53:52.000 Right.

00:53:53.000 What does it really cost to take care of a family?

00:53:57.000 Depends on how you take care of them, right?

00:53:59.000 Yeah.

00:54:01.000 Yeah, that's a...

00:54:02.000 If you think that everything should be legal, that's where, you know, someone, a game show where someone tries to kill you, that's a fucked up thing to have legal.

00:54:14.000 Listen, what's the guy, what's my name, Barry something?

00:54:16.000 He was a spy.

00:54:17.000 What's the guy in the story?

00:54:20.000 Tell me my name, Barry something.

00:54:23.000 Barry Seal?

00:54:24.000 No, he was a talk show host.

00:54:26.000 Talk show host.

00:54:28.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh.

00:54:29.000 Chuck Berry.

00:54:30.000 Chuck Berry.

00:54:30.000 He's a spy.

00:54:31.000 Chuck Berry.

00:54:31.000 Yeah, from the bong show.

00:54:32.000 He's a fucking spy.

00:54:34.000 Is that real, though?

00:54:35.000 I always thought that Chuck Berry stuff...

00:54:37.000 Come on.

00:54:37.000 They made a story out of it.

00:54:39.000 It had to be real.

00:54:41.000 They made a story out of it.

00:54:42.000 I wasn't sure if that was just the plot of that movie, which is a really fun movie.

00:54:47.000 They continue to say it.

00:54:48.000 I just...

00:54:48.000 Look it up, brother.

00:54:50.000 What was that movie again?

00:54:52.000 Dangerous Mind?

00:54:53.000 Yeah, it was great.

00:54:54.000 That was a fun movie.

00:54:55.000 Chuck Barris.

00:54:56.000 That's right, not Barry.

00:54:57.000 I say this guy cannot be a fucking spy.

00:54:59.000 Is he really a spy?

00:55:03.000 I hope he was a spy.

00:55:09.000 It's a better story.

00:55:11.000 It's hilarious if you became the host of the gong show because he was great.

00:55:15.000 Incredible.

00:55:15.000 Oh, he was so much fun.

00:55:16.000 He had the perfect amount of silliness while he was the host of that show.

00:55:21.000 He changed the game.

00:55:22.000 According to this, the quick Google search says he admitted to making up the story.

00:55:26.000 Oh, he made it up.

00:55:27.000 I don't know.

00:55:28.000 Oh, so it was some fiction that he wrote.

00:55:30.000 So, no, I was never a CIA hitman.

00:55:32.000 I never did those things.

00:55:33.000 I once applied for the CIA, and while I was going through the process, I got a job and went on to television.

00:55:40.000 Yeah, but do you believe a guy who they say was a spy?

00:55:43.000 I know.

00:55:43.000 We have a guy who comes in.

00:55:44.000 His name is Mike Baker.

00:55:46.000 I'm talking about you, Mike.

00:55:47.000 And he says he's not in the CIA anymore.

00:55:49.000 And I'm like, anymore?

00:55:51.000 Like, you're retired.

00:55:52.000 Like, you still talk to those guys.

00:55:54.000 Yeah, tell him about those bodies that he's seen.

00:55:56.000 Those spacey-looking motherfuckers he's never seen before.

00:55:59.000 He won't give up the alien talk.

00:56:00.000 Pull up a video of Chuck Barris hosting the gong show.

00:56:05.000 Chuck Barris, a CIA assassin?

00:56:07.000 There's a possibility.

00:56:08.000 Dangerous Minds producer says, oh, that's a producer.

00:56:11.000 He's just trying to sell some movies.

00:56:12.000 Sell some shit.

00:56:14.000 Chuck was a decent guy.

00:56:15.000 He's trying to make him a spy.

00:56:17.000 He's just a guy who's got a creative mind.

00:56:20.000 That was a great show, though.

00:56:21.000 He was so silly.

00:56:23.000 That was like, what was that, the 70s?

00:56:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:26.000 Here's one that says it's 77. He was so silly.

00:56:29.000 He was like a silly guy.

00:56:31.000 Listen, it was these Jewish guys.

00:56:34.000 It was Rosenbergs.

00:56:35.000 Remember these guys in World War II? Rosenbergs, Ethel Rosenbergs.

00:56:39.000 Were there the people that got arrested for spying?

00:56:42.000 Yeah.

00:56:43.000 My mentor, customer, he would put his life, they were innocent.

00:56:46.000 Yeah, a lot of people believed that.

00:56:47.000 Yeah, he put his life on it, they were innocent.

00:56:49.000 He got me in trouble.

00:56:50.000 I'm telling everybody, I don't even know nothing about these Jews.

00:56:52.000 They're innocent.

00:56:52.000 They're innocent because I'm just following him.

00:56:54.000 Yeah.

00:56:54.000 Oh man, you believe how many people hate these people?

00:56:57.000 Yeah.

00:56:58.000 Holy shit.

00:57:00.000 Yeah, they were probably innocent.

00:57:03.000 The brother-in-law, the wife's brother made everything up.

00:57:07.000 He told the story.

00:57:08.000 I don't know what he made up.

00:57:10.000 But I grew up being taught they were innocent.

00:57:13.000 Ain't that some bullshit?

00:57:14.000 Yeah.

00:57:15.000 It is.

00:57:18.000 So what do they think happened?

00:57:21.000 How did they get in trouble?

00:57:23.000 How did they get caught up in it?

00:57:25.000 Her brother, I believe, made something up, got suspicious about something that he's seen and he reported it.

00:57:35.000 And then they got arrested for it, and then they got executed for it, right?

00:57:39.000 But they didn't do anything, right?

00:57:41.000 So, you know, so they think.

00:57:43.000 Was that the story?

00:57:44.000 Yeah.

00:57:45.000 It's hard to tell, but my God, there's a lot of people that didn't do anything that went to jail.

00:57:49.000 Or died.

00:57:50.000 Or died.

00:57:51.000 Yeah.

00:57:52.000 My God.

00:57:54.000 I mean, that's one of the things about the future that I think is going to be very strange, is when we could read minds.

00:58:01.000 Because I don't think that's far off, Mike.

00:58:06.000 Listen, check this.

00:58:08.000 Did this happen?

00:58:08.000 How many times did this happen?

00:58:10.000 Oh God, what's that?

00:58:11.000 What did I have Bob doing?

00:58:14.000 Hey, Bob.

00:58:15.000 Imagine if you can control that in some kind of capacity.

00:58:18.000 You know what I mean?

00:58:18.000 Make that work in some kind of capacity.

00:58:21.000 Do you understand?

00:58:21.000 I think it's an emerging part of being a person.

00:58:25.000 I ain't seen him in 10 years.

00:58:26.000 God, man, I wonder if this guy already is still alive.

00:58:30.000 Bob, how you doing, man?

00:58:31.000 Some people want to say that's a coincidence.

00:58:34.000 There's no coincidence.

00:58:35.000 It's all been written.

00:58:36.000 Since the beginning of the light, it's been written.

00:58:38.000 If you don't think so, it's just ridiculous to believe that.

00:58:42.000 I think sometimes it could be a coincidence, but sometimes it's not.

00:58:46.000 And I don't know why I know it's not.

00:58:49.000 I don't know that it's not.

00:58:51.000 But I know that there's moments where I'm thinking of a very good friend and then he calls me.

00:58:56.000 And I'm like, wow, that's weird.

00:58:58.000 I haven't talked to this guy in a while.

00:58:59.000 And he's just calling me out of the blue, not even texting me.

00:59:02.000 And every now and then you feel like there's a connection.

00:59:05.000 You know, every now and then...

00:59:07.000 I have dreams, but normally when I sleep, it's blacked out or white out, and then I wake up.

00:59:14.000 Do you not have dreams, or do you not remember your dreams?

00:59:18.000 I don't remember having dreams.

00:59:19.000 There's no blackouts.

00:59:21.000 What is the difference between the days you have them and the days you don't?

00:59:25.000 Is it like when you're more rested you have dreams, or does it have anything to do with anything that goes on in your life?

00:59:32.000 I dream more when I'm awake than when I sleep.

00:59:36.000 Really?

00:59:37.000 So when you sleep, you just go out.

00:59:39.000 Yeah, I have more time to position myself, to relax, to meditate.

00:59:45.000 Right, right, right.

00:59:46.000 Relax.

00:59:47.000 Yeah.

00:59:48.000 Yeah.

00:59:50.000 When you made that shift and got back into fighting again, what did it feel like to just all of a sudden go into warrior mode again?

01:00:00.000 I saw you doing road work.

01:00:02.000 I saw you hitting the bag and working out with Rafael Cordero.

01:00:05.000 I'm like, this is wild to see.

01:00:08.000 It was nothing to me, but I was excited more because my friends were excited.

01:00:15.000 I said, Mike, how's your back?

01:00:16.000 Your back all right, Mike?

01:00:18.000 You're moving your fucking back.

01:00:19.000 I'm wondering if your fucking back all right.

01:00:21.000 And I said, Mike, I can't believe you're doing this shit, Mike.

01:00:24.000 I said, Mike, you fucking crazy.

01:00:26.000 You doing this shit?

01:00:27.000 I said, fuck.

01:00:27.000 You doing this shit, Mike?

01:00:29.000 Fuck.

01:00:29.000 It was crazy for all of us to watch.

01:00:30.000 I said, Mike, don't do this shit, man.

01:00:33.000 And look, I love Dana, right?

01:00:36.000 Dana White's my man.

01:00:37.000 I don't care.

01:00:38.000 I can never see nothing bad about him.

01:00:40.000 So he said, Mike, I don't want you to fight, man.

01:00:41.000 I'm going to get you a job, make you some money.

01:00:44.000 He gives me the goddamn shark week job.

01:00:48.000 He gives me the job.

01:00:48.000 I gotta put the shark to sleep now.

01:00:51.000 He doesn't want me to fight and get knocked out and beat up, but he wants me to go in there and put a shark to sleep.

01:00:55.000 How the fuck do you put a shark to sleep?

01:00:57.000 You rub his belly?

01:00:58.000 Yeah, you play with his chin.

01:01:00.000 Like, hey, little buddy.

01:01:02.000 And he's real big.

01:01:03.000 And now, listen.

01:01:05.000 So I got the shark, like the nine foot.

01:01:07.000 I made him...

01:01:10.000 Ken Atomic.

01:01:10.000 He freaked out and just chilled, right?

01:01:13.000 So the next day I have to do the tiger shark.

01:01:17.000 The tiger shark is the most aggressive shark.

01:01:19.000 These are monsters.

01:01:20.000 Look how big is a tiger shark?

01:01:21.000 Oh my god.

01:01:22.000 They're very aggressive, aren't they?

01:01:25.000 Yeah.

01:01:27.000 I think they're like 14 feet.

01:01:29.000 Well, check this out.

01:01:30.000 How big is this tiger shark?

01:01:31.000 I think a big one is like that.

01:01:35.000 All right, so they do this white shoot with me.

01:01:41.000 They go, all right, Mike, so we got the tiger shark tomorrow, all right?

01:01:44.000 He's more aggressive, of course, so you have to move differently with this guy, and he's going to come at you, but when he comes, you go underneath his neck.

01:01:51.000 When he tries to attack you, you go underneath him, and you tickle his neck.

01:01:57.000 So I'm in there, I'm saying, listen, they're throwing blood in the water, dead fish.

01:02:02.000 The water...

01:02:04.000 The ocean is getting red out, man.

01:02:06.000 It's a big bloody mess there.

01:02:08.000 And listen, the tiger shark don't show up.

01:02:12.000 Really?

01:02:13.000 No shark showed up.

01:02:14.000 No shark showed up.

01:02:16.000 I said, God, thank you.

01:02:20.000 The shark didn't show up.

01:02:22.000 I said, what?

01:02:23.000 Maybe he died or got into an altercation with a whale or something.

01:02:27.000 But God, damn.

01:02:28.000 Imagine if Dana White got you eaten.

01:02:30.000 Listen.

01:02:31.000 Imagine if it was Dana's fault and you get eaten by a fucking shark.

01:02:33.000 No, no, no.

01:02:34.000 Oh, you want to hear this?

01:02:35.000 No, no, no.

01:02:36.000 Forget that.

01:02:37.000 You want to hear this?

01:02:38.000 My wife thought it was a good idea, too.

01:02:40.000 I said, y'all motherfuckers don't care about me.

01:02:44.000 They don't give a fuck about me, man.

01:02:47.000 My wife said, that's a good idea.

01:02:49.000 Did you imagine telling her to get in the ocean with sharks and bloody fish and tickle them under the chin?

01:02:56.000 Wild sharks!

01:02:57.000 These aren't trained sharks.

01:02:59.000 They're wild in the ocean.

01:03:00.000 Like the seven-foot sharks, you know, the little green reef shark.

01:03:03.000 He's hitting me and it's like, boom, oh!

01:03:05.000 I'm like, fucking hell, boom!

01:03:06.000 And then he continues to hit me.

01:03:07.000 This is right here?

01:03:08.000 Yeah, watch this.

01:03:09.000 So, Mike, what are you wearing?

01:03:10.000 Chainmail?

01:03:10.000 Is that like a chainmail suit or something like that?

01:03:14.000 It's supposed to, like, something protect you?

01:03:16.000 No, no, no.

01:03:17.000 Please look how stupid I look.

01:03:19.000 Oh my god.

01:03:21.000 So you have this bite suit on.

01:03:24.000 Is that what it is?

01:03:24.000 Listen.

01:03:25.000 Did he bite you at all?

01:03:26.000 No, right?

01:03:27.000 But this is the thing.

01:03:28.000 This is the real thing.

01:03:29.000 This is so crazy.

01:03:30.000 You're touching its face.

01:03:31.000 This one thing just kept hitting me, man.

01:03:33.000 Hit me in the guts.

01:03:35.000 Hit me in the head.

01:03:36.000 Jesus.

01:03:38.000 This is crazy.

01:03:40.000 Mike, this is so much more dangerous than boxing.

01:03:42.000 No doubt, but my wife thought that Dana was doing me a favor.

01:03:49.000 My wife.

01:03:50.000 She thought Dana was doing us a favor.

01:03:52.000 He was helping our family out make money without getting hurt.

01:03:55.000 Oh my God.

01:03:56.000 Holy shit.

01:03:57.000 Thanks a lot, wife.

01:03:58.000 My baby, I love you, Kiki.

01:04:01.000 Tigers are scary, but sharks are just as scary in the ocean.

01:04:05.000 You can't even get away from them.

01:04:07.000 Yeah, you're more successful with a tiger because you're going to scream, and he might freak out and run.

01:04:12.000 You think so?

01:04:13.000 Sometimes they do.

01:04:14.000 I think they'd enjoy it.

01:04:15.000 I think if you screamed at a tiger, I think you would think it's adorable.

01:04:18.000 You know what I found out about tigers?

01:04:20.000 Tigers are really like wimps and stuff.

01:04:22.000 Really?

01:04:23.000 Yeah, if you step on their hand, they'll freak out.

01:04:26.000 They're not going to fight back.

01:04:28.000 Really?

01:04:28.000 If you step on that feet.

01:04:30.000 Really?

01:04:31.000 If you hit that feet, they'll freak out.

01:04:33.000 Really?

01:04:33.000 Freak out, yeah.

01:04:34.000 And know what else I found out about sharks, too?

01:04:36.000 What?

01:04:37.000 That stuff that we see on television, you get a chair, but a chair freaks them out.

01:04:42.000 Oh, yeah?

01:04:43.000 A chair freaks them out.

01:04:45.000 Tigers do.

01:04:45.000 Lions do.

01:04:46.000 Freaks them out.

01:04:47.000 I don't know why, but a chair, like a wooden chair, four legs, you go like that, it freaks them out.

01:04:52.000 Huh.

01:04:53.000 I wonder why.

01:04:53.000 Remember when you see a cartoon, they had the whip in the chair?

01:04:56.000 That's right, they always did.

01:04:57.000 The chair freaks them out.

01:04:58.000 Oh, well that makes sense.

01:05:00.000 Damn, I'm learning some shit on this podcast.

01:05:02.000 I did too, like when I saw them, whatever.

01:05:05.000 Then I saw the chairs freak them out, everything.

01:05:07.000 That makes total sense.

01:05:08.000 That was always the image of the guy who tamed a lion.

01:05:10.000 He had a chair in his hand.

01:05:11.000 The chair freaks them out.

01:05:12.000 Wow.

01:05:14.000 What a strange animal.

01:05:16.000 You know what's strange about a tiger?

01:05:19.000 When he's just laying down and then you come in the room and you're just chilling, then you open your eyes and his eyes are at your eyes.

01:05:26.000 Oof.

01:05:27.000 And you're like this.

01:05:29.000 Hey!

01:05:30.000 Everything cool?

01:05:31.000 You know, you wake him up.

01:05:33.000 You can't leave.

01:05:34.000 This is interesting.

01:05:35.000 You can't leave a tiger.

01:05:37.000 The lion's cool, but you can't leave a tiger like this too long.

01:05:40.000 When you're looking.

01:05:41.000 You told me that's challenging.

01:05:43.000 Yeah.

01:05:43.000 That's what it was.

01:05:44.000 That's probably what it was.

01:05:45.000 You can't do this too long with them.

01:05:48.000 That's why when I look at him, he's like, hey, hey, hey, excuse me.

01:05:52.000 What a fucking gamble that is.

01:05:54.000 What a gamble.

01:05:55.000 It's basically living with a monster.

01:05:57.000 Well, listen, it's difficult because you get brainwashed because you raised them from a baby and then you reprimand them and they get in check and stuff.

01:06:06.000 Like, yeah, okay, I'm in check.

01:06:07.000 Yeah, you pissed me off again.

01:06:09.000 Jesus Christ.

01:06:10.000 But it's the intoxication in your mind, the intoxication that you're in control.

01:06:15.000 Right.

01:06:15.000 That's the bullshit.

01:06:17.000 You're believing in bullshit.

01:06:19.000 False sense of security.

01:06:20.000 You're in control with this big cat.

01:06:22.000 This cat's 500 pounds.

01:06:24.000 You raise the sense of the baby, but he pisses him off sometimes.

01:06:27.000 You piss the cat off sometimes.

01:06:29.000 You get mad that he fought.

01:06:31.000 You might smack him.

01:06:32.000 He might get pissed off.

01:06:33.000 Did you watch Tiger King?

01:06:35.000 Yeah.

01:06:35.000 Isn't that wild?

01:06:37.000 That's a very interesting guy, Joe.

01:06:40.000 Oh, hilarious guy.

01:06:41.000 Listen, he has so much of one of those, what do you call those, guard complex, you know, got these guys in control.

01:06:49.000 Messiah complex.

01:06:50.000 Listen, he had one of his workers sacrifice their arm and still go to work and say, hey, I'm working free of charge.

01:06:58.000 That's that guard period.

01:07:00.000 That's that guard mentality shit.

01:07:02.000 What do they call that guard complex?

01:07:03.000 Well, he turned straight guys out.

01:07:06.000 He's married to two guys.

01:07:07.000 Two straight guys.

01:07:08.000 He's married to two guys.

01:07:10.000 He's a wizard.

01:07:14.000 His ego got him in trouble.

01:07:16.000 He's going to kill this bitch.

01:07:18.000 He's going to say, I'm going to have her killed.

01:07:21.000 He's still in jail, isn't he?

01:07:23.000 Yeah, he's still in jail.

01:07:24.000 The type of person that is interested in collecting tigers is a very interesting type of person.

01:07:30.000 Whoa!

01:07:32.000 I don't even want to say what kind of person that is.

01:07:35.000 What kind of person?

01:07:36.000 That collects big cats.

01:07:39.000 You don't want to say it?

01:07:40.000 You know, it's just very...

01:07:43.000 It's all for profit.

01:07:45.000 There's nothing out of love.

01:07:46.000 See, I love the cats.

01:07:49.000 I'm risking getting eaten by these guys.

01:07:51.000 These guys put them in cages and barred.

01:07:53.000 I sleep with them.

01:07:55.000 I sleep in my bed with them, and this guy keeps them in cages.

01:08:00.000 Mike, you want to hear the craziest statistic?

01:08:01.000 What?

01:08:02.000 There's more tigers in captivity in private collections in Texas.

01:08:07.000 Just in Texas.

01:08:09.000 Well, Beaumont got some good collections of tigers.

01:08:13.000 It's like, how many tigers are in Texas?

01:08:15.000 There's like 3,000 tigers out here.

01:08:18.000 It's a big, big black market.

01:08:21.000 Yeah, well, it's legal here.

01:08:23.000 I had like four tigers.

01:08:25.000 Four.

01:08:26.000 I mean, I had four.

01:08:27.000 Imagine a guy that's black market underground.

01:08:32.000 That guy, Joe, exactly.

01:08:33.000 He had 20 and tons of them, right?

01:08:36.000 Beautiful ones, too.

01:08:37.000 So when you had four, did you have four at the same time, or did you have four ones at different times?

01:08:42.000 Yeah, I had three at one time.

01:08:44.000 Three at one time.

01:08:45.000 Wow.

01:08:46.000 And the only one that bit me with the damn lion, because I'm trying to give him the technique shot.

01:08:49.000 I think I'm a fucking, excuse me, I think I'm a doctor.

01:08:52.000 So I'm going to give him a technique shot, because I don't want no one to know I have this lion and tiger, so I have to be the doctor.

01:08:59.000 I have to be the mother, the father, the doctor.

01:09:01.000 Oh, no.

01:09:02.000 So I got to give him this technique, and this nigga takes a job.

01:09:07.000 This baby takes a chunk out of me.

01:09:08.000 How bad was it?

01:09:10.000 I had like seven stitches, eight stitches, but it was a chunk.

01:09:12.000 That must be terrifying, though, when they bite down on you.

01:09:14.000 I used to want him to get my vein.

01:09:16.000 I was worried about him getting my vein.

01:09:18.000 Shit.

01:09:19.000 So did he get the Tecna shot?

01:09:21.000 Did you give it to him?

01:09:21.000 Yeah.

01:09:22.000 You got it in there?

01:09:23.000 Well, that's why he bit me.

01:09:25.000 Oh my god.

01:09:27.000 It's a big fucking animal.

01:09:30.000 That is a big fucking animal.

01:09:32.000 I was in my delusional stage that I'm Mike Tyson, I'm the baddest motherfucker on the planet, and these lions and tigers are gonna know it too.

01:09:39.000 You know, and it didn't work out that way.

01:09:42.000 It didn't come out the way I planned it.

01:09:44.000 It really didn't.

01:09:44.000 They acknowledged that I was inferior, and they just bounced me.

01:09:49.000 Listen, um...

01:09:53.000 They're bigger now, so the tiger and the lion are fighting.

01:09:58.000 And for some reason, I don't know why the tiger's bigger, but the lion, the tiger's intimidated the lion a little, right?

01:10:04.000 And he's bigger, like 200 pounds bigger.

01:10:06.000 So the lion's chasing him, right?

01:10:08.000 So the lion's chasing the tiger, and the wall is here.

01:10:12.000 The lion goes right, the tiger goes right up the wall, boom!

01:10:18.000 Oh, wow.

01:10:19.000 He's chasing him.

01:10:20.000 And the tiger runs up the wall.

01:10:22.000 And the lion hits the wall.

01:10:24.000 He's not as agile as the lion.

01:10:26.000 The tiger's 20 years.

01:10:26.000 The tiger's more agile.

01:10:28.000 Yeah, 20 years.

01:10:28.000 20 pounds.

01:10:29.000 What?

01:10:29.000 200 pounds heavier.

01:10:31.000 And he's more agile.

01:10:32.000 Wow.

01:10:34.000 He went right up that wall, walked right up the wall.

01:10:36.000 The thing about the male lions is they're just big to protect.

01:10:40.000 They're big to protect and control the tribe.

01:10:42.000 The females do all the hunting.

01:10:43.000 Yeah, they do all the fighting.

01:10:45.000 Did you ever hear about that island where the river broke off into a different direction and made this area an island in Africa?

01:10:54.000 And the lions that live there, all they have to eat is water buffalo.

01:10:59.000 So they have lions and water buffalo, and these lions have grown bigger than regular lions.

01:11:04.000 So the female lions that live there, they're as big as regular male lions.

01:11:08.000 They're fucking huge.

01:11:10.000 Because all they do is, I think it's called Relentless Enemies, and all they do is hunt these buffaloes.

01:11:15.000 They're like super-sized lions.

01:11:18.000 Because it's a whole pride of lions.

01:11:19.000 Look how beautiful they look when they're healthy.

01:11:21.000 Where the females are enormous because they have to take down...

01:11:25.000 Look at the stomach.

01:11:26.000 Look at the stomach.

01:11:26.000 That's how you can tell them they've been eating.

01:11:28.000 Look at the stomach.

01:11:29.000 I mean, they're fucking super jacked lions.

01:11:33.000 All they have to do is eat these giant-ass buffalo, which are impossible to take down.

01:11:38.000 And they could get killed easily.

01:11:39.000 They kill lions as well, these buffaloes.

01:11:41.000 So the only ones that lived...

01:11:42.000 Look at this guy.

01:11:43.000 Yeah.

01:11:44.000 The only ones that lived were the ones who were the descendants of the animals that are strong enough to kill the buffalo.

01:11:50.000 And so those are the ones that bred, and then within, you know, how many hundreds of years that this has been going on?

01:11:56.000 Show us some white lions.

01:11:57.000 Do you know...

01:12:00.000 Well, just recently.

01:12:01.000 Normally when a white lion is born, they normally kill it and let it starve to death.

01:12:06.000 Really?

01:12:07.000 Yeah, one instance they found where they hunted for this white lion.

01:12:15.000 You come out in brown and green and white, everybody's going to see you.

01:12:19.000 Right.

01:12:19.000 So that's why the other lions kill it?

01:12:22.000 They killed it and fed them, helped them eat.

01:12:24.000 That never happened before.

01:12:25.000 Really?

01:12:26.000 Yeah.

01:12:27.000 So ordinarily you think they would kill it because it's too visual?

01:12:30.000 Yeah, it gives the tribe away.

01:12:32.000 But they were scared of it too.

01:12:35.000 It was always an omen.

01:12:35.000 Even with tigers and lions, they see white that's scared to kill it.

01:12:40.000 Yeah, albino animals are weird.

01:12:42.000 I saw an albino...

01:12:43.000 That's not albino, though.

01:12:45.000 Oh, that's just white.

01:12:46.000 Yeah.

01:12:47.000 No one knows how that happens.

01:12:49.000 Wow.

01:12:50.000 Look up how do they turn white.

01:12:53.000 Why are they white?

01:12:55.000 Yeah, because they're not living in a snowy area like a polar bear or something like that.

01:12:58.000 Hey, but listen, that's where it stems from.

01:13:00.000 Really?

01:13:02.000 Hiding the grass?

01:13:05.000 Hiding the ice and the snow.

01:13:07.000 Oh, right, for polar bears.

01:13:08.000 No, the cats too.

01:13:09.000 Cats too?

01:13:10.000 Really?

01:13:10.000 Yeah, they all stem from the cold.

01:13:15.000 Siberia, whatever.

01:13:16.000 They all come from the white ones.

01:13:18.000 In the jungle, you can see it, but in the snow, you can't.

01:13:23.000 Have you ever seen a lynx before?

01:13:25.000 Yes.

01:13:27.000 I had a lynx before.

01:13:28.000 Did you really?

01:13:29.000 Little guy.

01:13:29.000 They're mean little shit.

01:13:30.000 They're not cool as pets.

01:13:32.000 They're not?

01:13:33.000 Not too cool.

01:13:33.000 What was the lynx like?

01:13:35.000 It's tough.

01:13:36.000 Don't fuck with me.

01:13:37.000 Let me do my stuff.

01:13:39.000 Walk around the house.

01:13:40.000 They look cool.

01:13:41.000 They got crazy paws.

01:13:44.000 Most of them are not...

01:13:45.000 You can't hold them a lot.

01:13:47.000 Oh, really?

01:13:48.000 The little ones are tough.

01:13:50.000 The big ones are more lovey-dovey than the little ones.

01:13:53.000 Look at that cat.

01:13:54.000 Does that cat look like he wants to hug you and play with you?

01:13:56.000 The person's holding him.

01:13:58.000 He don't look like he wants to be there.

01:13:59.000 Look at him.

01:14:00.000 No, no.

01:14:00.000 Look at the eyes on that fucking thing.

01:14:02.000 They don't cool.

01:14:03.000 Listen, they're just not cool.

01:14:04.000 Look at the eyes on that thing.

01:14:06.000 Even when they're cool, they're not cool.

01:14:07.000 They don't look cool.

01:14:08.000 That cat don't look cool, the guy holding him, right?

01:14:10.000 No.

01:14:11.000 Go to that picture again with the guy holding him.

01:14:13.000 He just don't look cool, man.

01:14:15.000 The guy's happy.

01:14:16.000 This guy just don't look cool.

01:14:17.000 He's a dork.

01:14:18.000 He's going to get clawed.

01:14:19.000 Yeah, this guy just don't look good, man.

01:14:21.000 I never knew they were that big.

01:14:23.000 Mine weren't that big.

01:14:25.000 That's like a dog, man.

01:14:26.000 Dude, the eyes.

01:14:28.000 Look at that cat's eyes.

01:14:30.000 See, that thing's been eating.

01:14:31.000 Somebody's been feeding that cat.

01:14:33.000 Look in his eyes, though.

01:14:35.000 That is horrific.

01:14:36.000 The little cats are tough.

01:14:37.000 The big cats are easier than the little guys.

01:14:39.000 Well, it makes sense.

01:14:40.000 They have to hustle.

01:14:42.000 Look at these guys.

01:14:43.000 They have to be killing things all the time.

01:14:45.000 All the time.

01:14:46.000 Because they're eating rabbits and stuff.

01:14:48.000 Look at one dyke.

01:14:49.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:14:50.000 Something ate him.

01:14:57.000 Hunt and devour a lynx.

01:14:59.000 Yeah, makes sense.

01:15:00.000 Trying to wipe out the competition.

01:15:02.000 All the time.

01:15:03.000 Yeah, it's a hard life being a small cat living in the wild.

01:15:07.000 That's true, but they live longer because they eat less.

01:15:10.000 Oh, right.

01:15:11.000 They probably live longer, too, because they just stay out of conflict, just keep moving.

01:15:15.000 They're in a lot of conflict, believe it or not.

01:15:17.000 During the day, they're out a lot.

01:15:18.000 Oh, wow.

01:15:20.000 Look at that one, biting a deer.

01:15:22.000 I never knew he could take a deer down.

01:15:24.000 Wow.

01:15:27.000 Look at the rabbit.

01:15:29.000 Okay, so this is in...

01:15:30.000 What part of the world is this?

01:15:34.000 Bosnia.

01:15:34.000 Eurasia.

01:15:35.000 It's a Eurasian lynx.

01:15:36.000 It's a little different.

01:15:37.000 It's like Mongolian, right?

01:15:39.000 Oh, yeah.

01:15:39.000 Down around there.

01:15:42.000 Megolian Steps.

01:15:43.000 Goddamn, that's a fascinating subject.

01:15:45.000 I love when we talked about that last time.

01:15:47.000 Temujin, Genghis Khan.

01:15:50.000 I love how fascinated you are in those ancient conquerors.

01:15:55.000 Those ancient historical figures are fascinating.

01:15:59.000 All these guys went to guys we thought they were.

01:16:02.000 Alexander the Great was probably smaller and shorter than Napoleon.

01:16:06.000 You hear these guys, you think they're big guys.

01:16:08.000 These are little guys.

01:16:09.000 Right.

01:16:10.000 The biggest guy is the guy from Russia, Peter the Great.

01:16:13.000 He's the biggest Concord there ever been.

01:16:14.000 How big was he?

01:16:15.000 About 6'7", something like that.

01:16:17.000 Oh, wow.

01:16:18.000 Listen, one of the mummies, I forgot, one of them, he was 6'5".

01:16:26.000 You know, he had a real long skeleton.

01:16:30.000 And then when you see the...

01:16:33.000 The pyramids, and you go in there, you have to, it's around this big.

01:16:37.000 You got to crouch.

01:16:38.000 No, you always got to bend down.

01:16:40.000 This is similar worshiping God.

01:16:42.000 What do you think, when you see the pyramids, what the fuck do you think happened there?

01:16:46.000 How is that possible?

01:16:48.000 How is it possible that someone could make something that big, that incredible, so many thousands of years ago?

01:16:54.000 I believe humans can do anything.

01:16:57.000 That's what I believe.

01:16:58.000 I believe humans with conviction can do anything.

01:17:04.000 I believe that too, but I mean, how?

01:17:06.000 How the fuck did they do that?

01:17:08.000 Well listen, believe it or not, all that we accomplished, we're really not that smart.

01:17:14.000 Okay.

01:17:15.000 Well, definitely not me.

01:17:16.000 Listen, you know the caves in France where they got the writing?

01:17:20.000 Yeah, yeah, the paintings and shit.

01:17:21.000 Keep game though, right?

01:17:22.000 That's in France.

01:17:24.000 There's no lines in France.

01:17:26.000 There's lines on the wall.

01:17:27.000 But no, not only that, say what, 40,000 years ago, lines didn't have means.

01:17:33.000 They wrote lines, but they didn't paint the main.

01:17:36.000 Really?

01:17:36.000 So 40,000 years ago, they didn't have means.

01:17:38.000 They painted what they saw.

01:17:39.000 And 40,000 years ago, France was attached to Africa.

01:17:44.000 Really?

01:17:44.000 Yeah, it had to be.

01:17:45.000 In order to have lions in a cave in France, did he write what he saw in Africa and brought it to this cave?

01:17:51.000 Well, one thing I know for sure, Mike, is that a bunch of mammals died off, they think, around 12,000 years ago.

01:17:57.000 They think at the end of the Ice Age, there was a big die-off.

01:18:01.000 A big cat.

01:18:02.000 A lot of animals in North America.

01:18:04.000 And they were too big to survive.

01:18:05.000 People could see them.

01:18:05.000 They couldn't move fast.

01:18:07.000 Sure.

01:18:08.000 There's a bunch of different stuff.

01:18:09.000 Giant sloths died off.

01:18:11.000 There was an American lion that was bigger than the African lion that was here that died off.

01:18:16.000 It was the saber tooth.

01:18:17.000 Yeah, there was a saber-tooth, too, but there was also another one that was an American lion.

01:18:21.000 It was a huge lion that lived here in North America.

01:18:24.000 There was a bunch of wild shit here.

01:18:27.000 Even horses were wild here at one point in time.

01:18:29.000 And then the Europeans brought them in again.

01:18:32.000 Well, they started here, apparently.

01:18:35.000 This is from this Dan Flores.

01:18:37.000 What do you think about animals and humans breeding?

01:18:39.000 You think that's possible?

01:18:40.000 I think if it was, there would be a lot of, like, half sheep, half horse, half dog people out there.

01:18:48.000 Thank God we can't.

01:18:50.000 I'm worried about scientists.

01:18:52.000 That's what I'm worried about.

01:18:53.000 I'm worried about scientists doing something to DNA and making something that's not a person anymore.

01:18:59.000 Something that is like...

01:19:00.000 If a scientist actually made a werewolf, a thing that's part human, part wolf, and said, listen, why would we risk human lives in war if we've all committed to just ground-on-ground combat?

01:19:12.000 Let's make werewolves.

01:19:13.000 Send them out to...

01:19:15.000 Because we're like big kids.

01:19:16.000 Sometimes we don't like the outcome.

01:19:18.000 Right.

01:19:18.000 Fuck that.

01:19:19.000 I didn't lose.

01:19:19.000 I didn't want to.

01:19:20.000 Fuck you.

01:19:20.000 I'm going to let the fucking real bomb off now.

01:19:22.000 Click.

01:19:23.000 We're children.

01:19:24.000 That scares the shit out of me.

01:19:26.000 What?

01:19:26.000 That someone could let the real bomb go off again.

01:19:29.000 Why would you be scared about dying?

01:19:31.000 It's not the dying part.

01:19:32.000 It's the dying slowly part.

01:19:35.000 The dying part's not scared.

01:19:37.000 Dying is dying.

01:19:37.000 Death is death.

01:19:38.000 Death is death.

01:19:39.000 The real problem is the deterioration of all common decency and full chaos.

01:19:45.000 No power, no food, no nothing.

01:19:49.000 A lot of radiation poisoning, a lot of people dead from the initial blast, a lot of people dying from whatever's done to the water and the soil afterwards over the next 50 years.

01:20:01.000 So what are we gonna do?

01:20:03.000 Hopefully not blow each other up.

01:20:06.000 Did you ever get to meet Putin?

01:20:10.000 No, I didn't meet Mr. Putin, but I met his, what was this guy's name?

01:20:17.000 He died.

01:20:18.000 Come on, the guy with the...

01:20:19.000 Gorbachev?

01:20:19.000 He was the president, Mr. Gorbachev.

01:20:21.000 You met him?

01:20:22.000 Wow.

01:20:23.000 In Georgia or something?

01:20:25.000 What was it, Georgia?

01:20:26.000 Oh yeah?

01:20:27.000 The country of Georgia?

01:20:28.000 Yeah, the country of Georgia.

01:20:32.000 I hung around in Chetney.

01:20:34.000 I hung around that place a lot.

01:20:35.000 Oh yeah?

01:20:35.000 What's that like?

01:20:38.000 Interesting.

01:20:38.000 It's different than us.

01:20:40.000 Yeah.

01:20:41.000 It's totally different than we are.

01:20:42.000 We live totally different than us.

01:20:44.000 It's a different culture and the history of that country is so brutal.

01:20:50.000 Well, you know, in order for them to be brutal, they had to have a heavier, stronger power to intimidate them.

01:20:56.000 The only way they could fight them is through, I don't know, what do they call that?

01:21:01.000 Man-to-man combat, use themselves as bombs and stuff like that.

01:21:05.000 How are they going to fight Russia?

01:21:06.000 How are you going to fight Moscow, your little small country like that, Chetania and stuff?

01:21:11.000 Right.

01:21:12.000 Remember they had the widows of the Chetanian warriors, the ones that sacrificed their life for Chetania, and they had the widows of them, and they kidnapped a bunch of people in the movie theater, and they released some kind of gas to kill the Chetanian warrior women,

01:21:31.000 and they killed all the people in the movie theater, too.

01:21:34.000 Jesus.

01:21:35.000 Yeah.

01:21:36.000 When was this?

01:21:37.000 Want to look that up?

01:21:37.000 Yeah, look that up.

01:21:39.000 It's a rough fucking part of the world, and it always has been.

01:21:43.000 Russian movie theater, Chetnian Terrace.

01:21:46.000 So many fighters come out of Russia right now.

01:21:48.000 Oh, they're the best.

01:21:49.000 Oh, my God.

01:21:50.000 Listen.

01:21:50.000 So many killers.

01:21:52.000 They fought the Vikings.

01:21:53.000 Yep.

01:21:54.000 Fought the Vikings.

01:21:56.000 Here we go.

01:21:57.000 Before they were Vikings.

01:21:58.000 Hostage Crisis in Moscow Theater from 2002. Check it out.

01:22:02.000 Check it out.

01:22:02.000 Check it out, dude.

01:22:05.000 So, October 23rd, 2002, 50 Chechen rebels storm a Moscow theater, taking up to 800 people hostage during a sold-out performance of a popular musical.

01:22:15.000 The second act of the musical, Nord Ost, was just beginning in the Moscow ball-bearing plant's Palace of Culture.

01:22:23.000 When an armed man walked on stage and fired a machine gun into the air.

01:22:27.000 The terrorists, including a number of women with explosives strapped to their bodies, identified themselves as members of the Chechen army.

01:22:34.000 They had one demand, that Russian military forces begin an immediate and complete withdrawal from Chechnya, the war-torn region located north of the Caucasus Mountains.

01:22:59.000 Oh, God.

01:23:03.000 Wow, okay.

01:23:04.000 So it was a 57-hour standoff at this Palace of Culture, during which two hostages were killed.

01:23:10.000 Russian Special Forces surrounded and raided the theater on the morning of October 26. Later it was revealed that they had pumped a powerful narcotic gas into the building, knocking nearly all of the terrorists and hostages unconscious before breaking into the walls and roof and entering through underground sewage tunnels.

01:23:28.000 Holy shit.

01:23:29.000 Most of the gorillas and 120 hostages were killed during the raid.

01:23:34.000 Holy fuck.

01:23:35.000 120 hostages killed from the gas.

01:23:37.000 Not from the gas.

01:23:38.000 It's not from the bomb explosion.

01:23:41.000 Jesus Christ.

01:23:44.000 Saying only a complete surprise attack could have disarmed the terrorists before they had time to detonate their explosives.

01:23:50.000 Wow.

01:23:52.000 They had to defend the decision to use the gas.

01:23:54.000 That's stupid, though.

01:23:55.000 They killed more people than the terrorists did.

01:23:58.000 Well, Jesus fucking Christ.

01:24:01.000 It's a hard part of the world, Mike.

01:24:03.000 Excuse me?

01:24:04.000 It's a hard part of the world.

01:24:05.000 But when it's beautiful, it's beautiful.

01:24:07.000 Yeah.

01:24:07.000 Well, they're architecture.

01:24:08.000 Like, look at Moscow.

01:24:09.000 No, I'm talking about the people.

01:24:10.000 Oh, the people.

01:24:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:24:11.000 The people are beautiful.

01:24:12.000 Incredible.

01:24:13.000 Incredible people.

01:24:13.000 Powerful people over there.

01:24:14.000 Hey, listen.

01:24:16.000 They're the most humbled people in the world.

01:24:18.000 You know?

01:24:18.000 Oh, man.

01:24:19.000 You just can't believe it.

01:24:21.000 Beautiful people.

01:24:23.000 I see this Ukraine tragedy happening on television, and it's horrific, and it's crazy, and it's hard to watch, and you're like, why are we doing this?

01:24:32.000 It's 2022. I can't believe a real war is breaking out like this again in a new place.

01:24:37.000 But when we see it, one of the things that's blown me away is all these Ukraine fighters That have taken up arms.

01:24:46.000 Lomachenko, the Klitschko brothers, Usyk, all these guys that are like huge superstars.

01:24:53.000 They're putting on flak jackets and helmets and they're defending their country.

01:24:57.000 It's wild to see.

01:25:00.000 They benefit from that country.

01:25:03.000 Justice Reich should band up and fight for it.

01:25:08.000 I don't imagine a world where that would be that common in America.

01:25:15.000 Unless we were legitimately invaded.

01:25:20.000 It started off as, I don't know, a business war, I guess, with Putin.

01:25:25.000 He wanted whatever they possessed.

01:25:27.000 And then people got involved, we got involved, and it turned into a war of humanity.

01:25:33.000 It's a war of humanity, right?

01:25:35.000 From business to war to humanity.

01:25:36.000 That's where it started.

01:25:37.000 It started for business.

01:25:38.000 Putin wanted something.

01:25:39.000 I don't know what it was that he wanted.

01:25:42.000 I don't know anything, but I just know normally wars are started because somebody wants something that you possess.

01:25:50.000 And everybody got involved with it, so we made it a war of pretty much...

01:26:00.000 Being humanitarian, I don't know.

01:26:04.000 Everybody's jumping on the bandwagon, I think.

01:26:06.000 I think it's just...

01:26:07.000 I think people are jumping on the bandwagon.

01:26:10.000 You know what it's made me aware of, too?

01:26:12.000 How much military activity is going on all over the world at any given time.

01:26:16.000 Yeah, we don't know about.

01:26:17.000 Imagine those third world countries where people are just eliminating other races of Muslims.

01:26:21.000 One Muslim is just eliminating this race of Muslims.

01:26:26.000 Yeah, people using drones.

01:26:27.000 The Kurds and whatever they are.

01:26:30.000 Bombings.

01:26:31.000 And we know nothing about it.

01:26:32.000 Yeah, we know nothing about it.

01:26:34.000 My friend Dave Smith is always talking about the bombing in Yemen.

01:26:37.000 And he's like, do you know what a horrific genocide is taking place in Yemen?

01:26:42.000 And he talks about these bombings.

01:26:44.000 I'm like, well, try finding that in the news, man.

01:26:46.000 You don't find anything like that in the news.

01:26:48.000 But one of the days, in the early days of the Russian-Ukraine war, someone put a graph up.

01:26:52.000 That showed how many bombings occurred, like how many, I don't know what you would call it when a drone detonates a missile.

01:27:00.000 Like how many of those happened in other parts of the world and how many of those happened in Russia?

01:27:04.000 I think how many Afghanistans got crushed with, what are those things you call, tanks.

01:27:10.000 How many of these tanks just ran over them?

01:27:12.000 Yeah.

01:27:13.000 Crushed everybody, but instantly crushed their lives.

01:27:19.000 There's no compassion in that part of the world.

01:27:23.000 Once the monster is let out, there's no compassion.

01:27:26.000 Right, and war has been going on there for so long now.

01:27:29.000 Since the beginning of time.

01:27:31.000 Yeah.

01:27:31.000 Since Moses.

01:27:34.000 That's what's really insane when you think about a place like Iraq.

01:27:38.000 Iraq has a history that goes all the way back to ancient Babylon, ancient Sumer.

01:27:46.000 They destroyed that stuff over there.

01:27:48.000 Yeah.

01:27:51.000 Anything that threatens Allah, they destroy.

01:27:53.000 It's amazing to watch, because these are these beautiful ancient statues, and they dynamite them, and you're like, whoa.

01:28:00.000 They're threatened.

01:28:01.000 They're threatened the humanity to those people.

01:28:04.000 I know, but it's like to not understand the value of something that's so ancient, so beautiful, and was created by people thousands and thousands of years ago.

01:28:13.000 People enslaved.

01:28:14.000 The people that made it, you mean?

01:28:16.000 No, listen.

01:28:17.000 I found out too.

01:28:18.000 They probably were, but listen.

01:28:20.000 Probably.

01:28:21.000 Not all the Egyptians were in the state.

01:28:22.000 They did it for God's purpose.

01:28:25.000 Yeah, they think the Egyptians were skilled workers by the food that they ate and where they lived in.

01:28:30.000 I thought it was slavery, too.

01:28:31.000 No, it was in the name of God.

01:28:34.000 Well, it kind of makes sense that it wasn't slavery because I'm sure there was some slavery, right?

01:28:41.000 But I mean, the actual construction of it is so skillful.

01:28:46.000 Like, it has to be so precise.

01:28:48.000 Like, it can't be off anywhere in any direction.

01:28:52.000 And the stones are so big.

01:28:55.000 The Egyptians were big liars.

01:28:57.000 They were lying?

01:28:58.000 Yeah.

01:28:59.000 They always did pictures.

01:29:01.000 They're very conscious of the image.

01:29:02.000 They were fat ones.

01:29:03.000 They never showed fat Egyptians.

01:29:05.000 Oh, so the paintings of them.

01:29:06.000 Yeah.

01:29:07.000 They had Egyptians getting high.

01:29:09.000 They don't show that.

01:29:09.000 They had the cocaine.

01:29:10.000 Put in the cocaine mummy, please.

01:29:12.000 Oh yeah, they found cocaine residue.

01:29:14.000 No, no, more than that.

01:29:15.000 Show them the cocaine moment.

01:29:16.000 They said, cocaine in his hair.

01:29:18.000 In his hair?

01:29:19.000 There's no cocaine that don't grow in that part of the world.

01:29:22.000 So, you know, they did a lot of traveling and trading.

01:29:24.000 Right.

01:29:25.000 That's right.

01:29:26.000 Because Colombia has pyramids too.

01:29:30.000 Yep.

01:29:31.000 Yeah.

01:29:31.000 All those places in Mexico have pyramids.

01:29:33.000 I went to the pyramids in Mexico.

01:29:35.000 Cocaine metabolites in pre-Columbian mummy here.

01:29:38.000 There it is.

01:29:38.000 Chewing of coccalees.

01:29:40.000 Oh, because of this pre-Columbian populations.

01:29:42.000 Eight Chilean mummies with dates ranging from 2000 BC to 1500 AD. I think there was an Egyptian mummy too though, Jamie, where they found some cocaine residue.

01:29:52.000 I think we're combining two stores.

01:29:53.000 Cocaine will use as a medicine or something.

01:29:56.000 Yeah, that's a good one too though.

01:29:57.000 That's a good one too.

01:29:58.000 They were definitely doing coke.

01:29:59.000 This one had, I believe, the Egyptian mummy with...

01:30:01.000 Oh, okay.

01:30:03.000 Cocaine mummy is called.

01:30:05.000 I can't read that, Jamie, it's too small.

01:30:07.000 A 1992 German toxicologist, say that name, Svetlana Balabanova discovered traces of cocaine, hashish, and nicotine in Hanout Tawi's hair, I hope I'm saying that right, as well as on the hair of several other mummies in the museum.

01:30:27.000 Interesting.

01:30:30.000 So they were doing coke.

01:30:31.000 And they smoked cigarettes as well.

01:30:33.000 I think they think there was something else that might have registered positive for cocaine.

01:30:41.000 I think the cocaine was when they did stuff for painless when they did it for the Painkills?

01:30:50.000 Whatever it was, I believe.

01:30:51.000 I just don't think...

01:30:52.000 After these experiments, assuming the cocaine was actually found in the mummies, it's possible there could be contamination, which occurred after this discovery of the mummies.

01:31:03.000 Somebody got the mummy high.

01:31:04.000 Somebody got the mummy and then they did coke off a mummy?

01:31:07.000 Yeah, give me the fuck out of here, man.

01:31:10.000 Could you imagine if that's the story, though?

01:31:12.000 Imagine, I can see that happening.

01:31:14.000 I can see that happening.

01:31:15.000 Come on, man.

01:31:15.000 My kind of world, I can see that, yeah.

01:31:17.000 If there's a dude who's like, bro, I bet you won't do coke off that mummy.

01:31:21.000 Matter of fact, I bet you won't sniff something with the mummy.

01:31:23.000 Yes.

01:31:24.000 Sniff some of the mummy in there.

01:31:26.000 Yeah, maybe he was like doing a sacrifice to the mummy.

01:31:29.000 Here's a little coke for you.

01:31:30.000 Hey, let's check out...

01:31:32.000 You know what I read?

01:31:34.000 I read if you take some of the platelets from baby rats and stick it in older rats, they become younger.

01:31:43.000 So it was a queen.

01:31:47.000 Elizabeth Bathory.

01:31:49.000 She used to bathe in virgin blood.

01:31:51.000 She was like a serial killer, supposedly.

01:31:53.000 But she did, you know, to her platelets and everything, she became younger and useful.

01:31:59.000 That's what I read too, but then someone told me that there's a real possibility that she was set up because they wanted her land.

01:32:07.000 Possibility.

01:32:08.000 And so what they did is they made it seem like she was some...

01:32:12.000 Hey, let's check it out.

01:32:13.000 Let's go on the never-lying YouTube.

01:32:19.000 Elizabeth Bathory is her name.

01:32:20.000 The Never Lying YouTube.

01:32:21.000 They felt like she was almost like a vampire.

01:32:24.000 Like she would bathe in the blood of these young girls that she thought were attractive.

01:32:28.000 She would kill them and bathe in them.

01:32:30.000 But then the thing is, if you do know that they were trying to get her land, that sounds like something someone would make up back then if you wanted to take someone's shit.

01:32:39.000 Yeah, if you could She's a witch.

01:32:42.000 Especially if you're a respectable person.

01:32:44.000 People don't know you're a scumbag, really.

01:32:48.000 Especially when you're talking about a witch.

01:32:50.000 Who's going to defend a witch, Mike?

01:32:51.000 She's going to eat your kids.

01:32:53.000 We got to get rid of her.

01:32:54.000 We'll divide her land.

01:32:56.000 I'll give you 100 acres for free.

01:32:58.000 I should have it all, really.

01:33:01.000 I thought about this, but I should have it all and you guys will be my butlers.

01:33:05.000 What does it say here?

01:33:07.000 The powerful woman made more so far for her control of who this guy?

01:33:15.000 Giorgio Thurza, the Count Palestine of Hungary, was ordered by Matthias then King of Hungary to investigate.

01:33:25.000 The Count Palpatine determined after taking depositions from the people living in the area surrounding her estate that Bathory had tortured and killed more than 600 girls with the assistance of her servants.

01:33:38.000 Wow!

01:33:39.000 Okay, that's a lot.

01:33:40.000 Maybe she really did.

01:33:42.000 No way.

01:33:43.000 600, man.

01:33:44.000 Come on.

01:33:45.000 The whole judicial system was down for this, man.

01:33:49.000 They were in this together.

01:33:50.000 Maybe it could be a setup.

01:33:51.000 On December 30th, 1609, Bathory and her servants were arrested.

01:33:55.000 The servants were put on trial in 1611, and three were executed.

01:34:00.000 Although never tried, Bathory was confined to her chambers at the Castle Cachiche...

01:34:05.000 Cachiche...

01:34:06.000 She remained there.

01:34:06.000 Until she died, baby.

01:34:08.000 Yeah, she died in a hole.

01:34:09.000 They just left her in a fucking cell.

01:34:11.000 What year?

01:34:12.000 She died 11?

01:34:13.000 The fact that a large debt was owned by Matthias Two Bathory was canceled by her family in exchange for permitting them to manage her captivity suggests that the acts attributed to her were politically motivated slander that allowed relatives to appropriate her lands.

01:34:31.000 Women with landers, you know, they wouldn't Give her that much power, but women with land, they're going to take that stuff.

01:34:36.000 Yeah, so it says, documents from the 1611 trial supported the accusations made against her.

01:34:41.000 Modern scholarship has questioned the veracity of the allegations, because Bathory was a powerful woman, and made more so by her control of Nadasdi's holdings after his death.

01:34:57.000 And so, there was a lot of money involved, so Matias owed money to Bathory, and that money was cancelled out for permitting them to manage her captivity.

01:35:06.000 Listen, it never changes.

01:35:08.000 Money, money, and love.

01:35:10.000 Money and love never changes.

01:35:12.000 But what a good story.

01:35:13.000 If it was real.

01:35:14.000 If it was really an old, rich lady killing young girls and bathing in their blood.

01:35:19.000 Hey, but listen, I saw the platelets of young rats make older rats younger.

01:35:24.000 And the opposite.

01:35:25.000 When you put old rat blood in a young rat, they behave slowly and tired.

01:35:30.000 Yeah.

01:35:30.000 There was a thing that was going around that they were saying that billionaires, tech billionaires, were doing that.

01:35:37.000 And that they were getting young people, were donating blood, and they were getting young blood transfused into their blood.

01:35:43.000 But I heard that was horse shit.

01:35:44.000 Is that horse shit?

01:35:45.000 Or is that real?

01:35:46.000 And listen, I know any way a person could extend his life, he'll do it.

01:35:51.000 A lot of people would.

01:35:51.000 If he could extend his life another year.

01:35:54.000 Especially if it changes the quality of your life.

01:35:56.000 You feel young again.

01:35:57.000 That would be the only reason.

01:35:59.000 Other than that, there would be no reason for doing it.

01:36:01.000 Well, you're still vulnerable to death, especially accidents and stuff.

01:36:04.000 But, like, what was that all about?

01:36:08.000 According to this story in the BBC, it says there was 100 people that participated in a clinical trial in San Francisco.

01:36:16.000 Right, but there was an actual company that was advertising.

01:36:19.000 Remember that?

01:36:21.000 And we were like, is this a parody?

01:36:23.000 Because we'd heard like Peter Thiel or some of those rich billionaire type characters.

01:36:27.000 You know, that was always like the rumor that they were investing in these companies.

01:36:31.000 But listen, you know they took these guys that one time off the street and tried their psychedelics on them and see how it affects them and stuff.

01:36:37.000 That's for sure.

01:36:38.000 The CIA did a lot of that.

01:36:40.000 So imagine, that's like Hitler did.

01:36:42.000 He let people escape and know they'd be back in two hours because they'd be addicted to a certain kind of shitty...

01:36:48.000 Oh, really?

01:36:49.000 Yeah, that's what I heard.

01:36:50.000 He would let them go.

01:36:51.000 You know, they had all kinds of creepy stories.

01:36:53.000 Well, we know for a fact the government did all kinds of crazy shit with LSD in like the 1950s and the 1960s.

01:36:59.000 They had all these MKUltra mind control experiences.

01:37:03.000 LSD helped a lot of people.

01:37:05.000 It did help a lot of people.

01:37:06.000 It helped a lot of people.

01:37:07.000 It cooked a lot of people's brains too.

01:37:09.000 You know, that's the price you pay for greatness, right?

01:37:13.000 Yeah.

01:37:14.000 Well, I think it's a dose thing.

01:37:15.000 I think there's a certain dose where you really shouldn't cross a line.

01:37:19.000 This is what I believe.

01:37:21.000 I believe we're made of all this stuff.

01:37:24.000 And that's why when we take it, we get that response to it.

01:37:27.000 For sure, there's something, like one of the things they say about the strongest drugs, like the toad, like 5-methoxy-dimethyltryptamine, is that it's the most, all the really strong ones are the ones that are more closely related to the normal human neurochemistry, like the actual chemicals your brain makes,

01:37:44.000 because it makes those chemicals.

01:37:45.000 There's White Cobra, they use that too.

01:37:47.000 Oh really?

01:37:48.000 Yeah.

01:37:49.000 Is that like a venom?

01:37:51.000 That's heroin.

01:37:52.000 That's natural heroin.

01:37:53.000 Really?

01:37:53.000 Yeah, that and lizard's tail.

01:37:55.000 The lizard's tail is natural heroin.

01:37:57.000 Really?

01:37:58.000 Yeah, some of these animals are naturally toxic.

01:38:01.000 I know they use that venom, too.

01:38:03.000 Natural heroin.

01:38:05.000 Look up white cobra venom.

01:38:10.000 It's like an opiate?

01:38:11.000 See what they say?

01:38:12.000 I think it's a thing in China they're doing, white cobra venom.

01:38:17.000 How the fuck does anybody find that out?

01:38:19.000 Accidentally.

01:38:20.000 All the animals are descendants from actual gods.

01:38:23.000 You know that, right?

01:38:24.000 Snake venom use as a substitute for opioids.

01:38:27.000 Wow.

01:38:28.000 A case report and review of literature.

01:38:31.000 The mind-altering agents such as tobacco, cannabis, and opium Wow.

01:39:01.000 That's crazy.

01:39:03.000 Dudes were doing snake venom.

01:39:05.000 Holy shit.

01:39:06.000 It's big in China.

01:39:07.000 We're big in China.

01:39:08.000 Holy shit.

01:39:10.000 Look up Lizard's tail, if you don't mind.

01:39:13.000 Imagine getting so high you want to get high with snake venom.

01:39:16.000 No, listen brother.

01:39:16.000 Let's take a chance.

01:39:17.000 That's what they did.

01:39:18.000 That's what the ancients did.

01:39:19.000 I'm sure they did.

01:39:21.000 I'm sure they did.

01:39:22.000 They did with ergot.

01:39:23.000 They did it with a fungus that mimics LSD. They found that in their wine jars.

01:39:28.000 Apparently all the wine they had back then was mixed and stuff.

01:39:30.000 And when we die, we become fungus too.

01:39:32.000 Yep.

01:39:33.000 Yeah.

01:39:33.000 Well, the fungus will devour us.

01:39:34.000 And something will eat us and get high.

01:39:36.000 Some animals will eat us and pass out and then bug out.

01:39:39.000 Isn't it kind of rude that we use, that we take our bodies and make it like, use formaldehyde?

01:39:46.000 And then when you put it in the ground, it doesn't rot.

01:39:49.000 Isn't that kind of rude?

01:39:50.000 No, I think...

01:39:51.000 It's like we're not giving back.

01:39:53.000 I think we give back by living.

01:39:57.000 As soon as we go on the ground, we're going to be eating.

01:39:59.000 The bugs and rats are going to go on our skull and our eyes and everything.

01:40:04.000 Does lizard tail lacing heighten cannabis addiction?

01:40:08.000 There's another story I saw about a guy in jail that couldn't get weed, so he started drying and smoking lizard tails.

01:40:16.000 For an instant high, it said.

01:40:19.000 Wow.

01:40:20.000 That's ridiculous.

01:40:21.000 It got bipolar effect, huh?

01:40:23.000 Jesus Christ.

01:40:24.000 Smoking lizard tails.

01:40:26.000 People will do anything to escape their current state of mind.

01:40:29.000 You know?

01:40:30.000 They'll try almost anything.

01:40:33.000 Getting high since the beginning of time.

01:40:35.000 The cavemen fucking did something with grass and rocks.

01:40:39.000 Everybody did some kind of wine it was, I believe.

01:40:42.000 Even the cavemen had something they got high off of.

01:40:45.000 I'm sure there was all kinds of plants that you could eat that get you fucked up in some way.

01:40:50.000 Like tobacco.

01:40:51.000 You could eat tobacco.

01:40:52.000 Tobacco by itself, it's a stimulant.

01:40:55.000 It does something to your brain.

01:40:57.000 I wonder if they just would chew the leaves.

01:40:59.000 I wonder how they first started using tobacco before they smoked it.

01:41:02.000 When you do tobacco, a good grade of tobacco...

01:41:08.000 You start getting ready.

01:41:09.000 Get real antsy.

01:41:10.000 Yeah, you ready.

01:41:11.000 Get that energy.

01:41:11.000 Energy, right?

01:41:12.000 Yeah.

01:41:13.000 Cigars give me energy.

01:41:15.000 Cigarettes, too.

01:41:16.000 That's why, that's why, I don't, nicotine's not good, but every now and then I need to roll a blunt, nigga.

01:41:20.000 Yeah, I love blunts.

01:41:21.000 Before I wake up.

01:41:22.000 Ooh, then I'm gone, right?

01:41:23.000 Before working out.

01:41:24.000 Different kind of high, right?

01:41:25.000 Oh, man.

01:41:26.000 Yeah, that's the best high.

01:41:27.000 The blunt high's the best high.

01:41:29.000 Yeah.

01:41:30.000 Tobacco is one of them.

01:41:32.000 Another one of them is the coca leaves.

01:41:34.000 Apparently, if you don't make cocaine out of it, you just chew the leaves.

01:41:36.000 Yeah, it numbs you.

01:41:37.000 It's great.

01:41:38.000 They say it's great.

01:41:39.000 They do that in Colombia.

01:41:40.000 That's all they do, chew the coca leaves.

01:41:42.000 Yeah.

01:41:42.000 And they put the paste, the cocoa paste.

01:41:45.000 Yeah, that shit's all illegal here, though.

01:41:49.000 Too many people like it, you know?

01:41:52.000 Listen, it's the food of the gods.

01:41:56.000 That's what it is.

01:41:57.000 A lot of it is.

01:41:58.000 Food of the gods.

01:41:59.000 Yeah, it's probably the gateway to the gods.

01:42:01.000 There was a book that this guy wrote in the 1970s, a guy named John Marco Allegro.

01:42:07.000 He wrote a book on psychedelic mushrooms and Jesus.

01:42:11.000 It was called The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross.

01:42:14.000 And he was one of those guys that decoded the Dead Sea Scrolls.

01:42:19.000 So he was a scholar and he was also an ordained minister, but he became agnostic after he started reading all this biblical literature and stuff and realizing that a lot of these stories come from older and older stories.

01:42:29.000 So he reads this thing for 14 years and decodes it and he comes up with this theory that Christianity was really based around psychedelic mushrooms and fertility cults.

01:42:40.000 And this whole story about what Jesus is.

01:42:45.000 The word Jesus in this guy's translation of ancient Sumerian is a mushroom covered in God's semen.

01:42:53.000 But Jesus' story goes all the way back to Babylon.

01:42:56.000 His story about the warrior.

01:42:58.000 It's all very similar.

01:43:00.000 The warrior who killed his wife fooled around him and they said the baby came from him and he's the seed of the god and so they made that into Jesus.

01:43:08.000 So to say.

01:43:09.000 I don't know if it's true.

01:43:10.000 I don't know if it's true either.

01:43:11.000 They have the same story.

01:43:12.000 He thinks the origins of that story is all psychedelic mushrooms.

01:43:17.000 That's what he thinks.

01:43:18.000 He thinks people, ancient people, found these psychedelic mushrooms and get connected to God.

01:43:24.000 And through eating them, they developed this moral and ethical framework of how to live.

01:43:29.000 God gave them visions of how to do things the right way.

01:43:33.000 And he thinks it all came from the consumption of these psychedelic mushrooms.

01:43:36.000 And this guy was a straight...

01:43:38.000 Like, academic.

01:43:39.000 He wasn't a crazy person.

01:43:41.000 He wasn't like some Timothy Leary guy who was like off the deep end.

01:43:44.000 He was a straight-laced, sober academic who came up with this theory.

01:43:48.000 It's very interesting stuff.

01:43:50.000 We know nothing about us.

01:43:52.000 What do we know about the human race?

01:43:54.000 What do we know?

01:43:56.000 That's who we really are, human?

01:43:58.000 Are we really human?

01:44:03.000 What are we?

01:44:05.000 Here's the weird one, Mike.

01:44:06.000 We're so much different than everything else that's here.

01:44:09.000 So much different.

01:44:11.000 We're so far ahead of everything else that's here.

01:44:14.000 We're so far ahead and then still far behind.

01:44:17.000 Almost kind of unnatural in a way, right?

01:44:22.000 Like we're struggling with our nature.

01:44:24.000 More so than any other animal.

01:44:25.000 A wolf doesn't wonder, is being a wolf the right thing to do?

01:44:29.000 Is this the right life for me?

01:44:32.000 Maybe I'm in the wrong gender.

01:44:33.000 A wolf doesn't give a fuck.

01:44:34.000 It just lives.

01:44:35.000 That's what separates us from animals, supposedly.

01:44:39.000 Our rationale.

01:44:40.000 We can reason.

01:44:40.000 Yes, we can reason and we can consider.

01:44:43.000 That separates the fox from all the other animals in the jungle.

01:44:46.000 He can reason.

01:44:47.000 Right.

01:44:47.000 He can think.

01:44:48.000 The only one, the only instincts.

01:44:53.000 Right.

01:44:53.000 They have instincts.

01:44:54.000 He has reason.

01:44:55.000 Well, chimps have instincts, too.

01:44:56.000 They do some wild shit.

01:44:58.000 They set traps for monkeys.

01:45:01.000 That David Attenborough documentary.

01:45:02.000 I saw that.

01:45:03.000 He's detailing how they're setting the traps.

01:45:05.000 They go this way, chasing that way.

01:45:06.000 The other ones are going this way.

01:45:07.000 They have ones waiting.

01:45:08.000 So somehow or another, they're communicating with each other.

01:45:10.000 And they run right into him.

01:45:11.000 He runs right into the other monkey.

01:45:14.000 The monkey's right there.

01:45:15.000 He runs right into him.

01:45:22.000 The amount of power they must have in their body must be insane.

01:45:27.000 To feel what it would feel like to wrestle with a 160 pound chimp, it would feel like they would just snap your arms right off.

01:45:37.000 You'd be outmatched.

01:45:38.000 It would be ridiculous.

01:45:39.000 Just the physical strength that something the size of a human has.

01:45:43.000 We can't outfight them.

01:45:45.000 We can't outlive them.

01:45:46.000 We can't outfuck them.

01:45:48.000 We can't outdo nothing compared to them.

01:45:51.000 Imagine those ones they found in the Congo that are six feet tall.

01:45:54.000 300 plus pounds.

01:45:56.000 Just solid, jacked, chimps, handsy.

01:46:00.000 They found one eating a Jaguar, Mike.

01:46:03.000 They found it eating a dead jaguar.

01:46:04.000 They don't know if it killed a jaguar or if it just found a jaguar dead and started consuming.

01:46:09.000 Listen, a jaguar's a match for anything.

01:46:11.000 It's a big-ass cat.

01:46:12.000 He's the third biggest cat in the world, but he's a match for anything.

01:46:16.000 That's a big fucking cat.

01:46:17.000 He's a match for a gorilla.

01:46:19.000 Actually, it'd be a leopard.

01:46:20.000 It's because it's in Africa.

01:46:22.000 The jaguar's in South America, so it's a leopard.

01:46:24.000 A leopard is what they found him killing.

01:46:26.000 They found them eating, rather.

01:46:28.000 They don't know if the chimp is still a big-ass cat.

01:46:32.000 These cats are hard to beat with these claws and these teeth.

01:46:34.000 They're fast as lightning.

01:46:36.000 Yeah, they don't know.

01:46:37.000 But the locals do have a name for them.

01:46:39.000 They call them lion killers.

01:46:41.000 It's a very controversial subject because there's not that many of them.

01:46:44.000 It's very hard to get where they are to study them.

01:46:46.000 But they have photos of them.

01:46:48.000 They have skin tissue.

01:46:49.000 They have skulls.

01:46:51.000 They have all these things that indicate there's something different about these chimps.

01:46:55.000 You know, the lions.

01:46:59.000 They rip your skin when they rip you.

01:47:01.000 They go right into your muscles.

01:47:04.000 They rip you out, man.

01:47:07.000 It's not easy fighting those big cats.

01:47:09.000 Our skin is so bullshit compared to theirs.

01:47:13.000 Even dogs.

01:47:14.000 If a dog gets bit by another dog, you go and check it, there's no blood.

01:47:18.000 It didn't even make them bleed.

01:47:20.000 Listen, the lions, they take chunks out you, man.

01:47:23.000 They scratch you.

01:47:24.000 It's crazy.

01:47:25.000 And they get on their back and they gut you.

01:47:27.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:47:28.000 They get you on top of you and they gut you.

01:47:32.000 We're so soft in comparison.

01:47:34.000 But a chimp's not.

01:47:36.000 A big-ass chimp has thick skin like a cat does.

01:47:40.000 But we have this.

01:47:41.000 Supposedly we have this.

01:47:43.000 Yeah.

01:47:47.000 Do you think it's possible that human beings were, at least, our evolution was pushed along by something else?

01:47:56.000 Like, if evolution is real, do you think it's possible that something came down here and manipulated it?

01:48:02.000 Why did everything get smaller?

01:48:04.000 Why did the animal and the people started getting smaller?

01:48:07.000 Because we don't have to use our bodies.

01:48:09.000 No, we used to be giants there with them, because they also have the Cyclops disease.

01:48:14.000 Can you look that up?

01:48:16.000 Well, there's occasionally some giants.

01:48:17.000 No, they have stories of human Cyclops, so they thought it was true.

01:48:21.000 So they found out there's a Cyclops disease.

01:48:25.000 Oh, no shit.

01:48:26.000 In ancient times, there was a Cyclops disease when you're born with one eye.

01:48:30.000 Oh, whoa.

01:48:31.000 That's why I wanted to look it up.

01:48:32.000 What the fuck?

01:48:35.000 That's crazy.

01:48:38.000 Yeah.

01:48:38.000 So it was a disease?

01:48:40.000 So they found a skull or something like that?

01:48:43.000 Yeah, it was like being...

01:48:44.000 Deformed.

01:48:45.000 Just having a physical deformity.

01:48:47.000 Wow.

01:48:48.000 But it was a common deformity?

01:48:49.000 Or enough so that they knew it?

01:48:51.000 It was just one eye right in the head.

01:48:53.000 Whoa.

01:48:54.000 Did you see it in there?

01:48:55.000 Yeah.

01:48:56.000 Wow.

01:48:59.000 That's fucking insane.

01:49:00.000 It's called cyclopia.

01:49:01.000 Wow, I always thought that was a myth.

01:49:03.000 I never knew that there was an actual disease.

01:49:05.000 You're talking to me when you're talking about this.

01:49:07.000 I'm like Alex Jones in ancient times.

01:49:11.000 You are, man.

01:49:11.000 Can you make that a little bit bigger, Jamie?

01:49:12.000 Right there?

01:49:13.000 Yeah, cyclopia is derived from the Greek word cyclops, meaning ring-eyed.

01:49:17.000 It's a rare condition that causes a child to be born with one eye, no nose.

01:49:22.000 And a proboscis, a nose-like growth above the eye.

01:49:25.000 Brother, brother, I need the hit.

01:49:26.000 Listen.

01:49:27.000 There you go.

01:49:27.000 I'm telling you, nigga.

01:49:28.000 However, it isn't that a baby has one eye.

01:49:32.000 It's a severe malformation of the baby's brain early in the pregnancy.

01:49:37.000 Oh, wow.

01:49:38.000 So both of the cyclopia often results in miscarriage or stillbirth.

01:49:42.000 Survival after birth is mostly a matter of a few hours.

01:49:45.000 Doctors also call it holoprosanthophyll.

01:49:51.000 Prosanthophyll.

01:49:53.000 So say 10,000 years, 100,000 years, maybe they did something where they were able to be accepted into the world.

01:50:00.000 I don't know.

01:50:01.000 It says there's no way to prevent it and there's no cure.

01:50:05.000 Most cases of cyclopia are usually detected early if you receive the proper prenatal care.

01:50:10.000 So this is talking about humans to this day still get it.

01:50:13.000 Wow, that's crazy.

01:50:15.000 What was the guy named that wrote the Trojan War?

01:50:18.000 What was his name again?

01:50:19.000 Homer.

01:50:19.000 Homer made a monster out of the guy.

01:50:21.000 Maybe there was a few that lived that were big.

01:50:24.000 Whoa.

01:50:26.000 What happened?

01:50:26.000 They got skulls?

01:50:27.000 I don't know.

01:50:28.000 What do you got there?

01:50:28.000 Just skulls.

01:50:29.000 I saw the skulls too.

01:50:30.000 I don't know if they're real skulls, but check them out.

01:50:33.000 The weirdest skulls, Mike.

01:50:34.000 Are those skulls old?

01:50:35.000 I don't like that.

01:50:37.000 Oh, is that real?

01:50:38.000 I don't even know what that is.

01:50:40.000 Let me say that again?

01:50:41.000 There's a lot.

01:50:42.000 Let me say that again?

01:50:43.000 That's a lot for me, too.

01:50:44.000 I think that's real, dude.

01:50:46.000 That's exactly what they were talking about.

01:50:48.000 A proboscis above the eye.

01:50:50.000 Man, anything can happen to us.

01:50:52.000 We don't know who we are.

01:50:53.000 We could be born like fish.

01:50:54.000 We could look like...

01:50:56.000 Yeah.

01:50:57.000 Exactly.

01:50:58.000 We're just used to this.

01:51:00.000 Whatever it is to be a person, we're used to it, but it's not normal.

01:51:03.000 So, listen.

01:51:03.000 Check this out.

01:51:04.000 How much does a skeleton weigh?

01:51:08.000 All of this is in the way.

01:51:09.000 We're in the way.

01:51:10.000 I want to say it's about 18 pounds.

01:51:13.000 Probably a little less.

01:51:15.000 I go less than that.

01:51:16.000 Less?

01:51:16.000 What do you think?

01:51:17.000 I don't know, 14, 12. 14 pounds?

01:51:21.000 12 probably.

01:51:22.000 That's 15% of total body weight.

01:51:24.000 Oh.

01:51:24.000 Always.

01:51:26.000 I mean, bone density, right?

01:51:29.000 Right.

01:51:29.000 The skeleton.

01:51:30.000 I typed in skeleton.

01:51:32.000 Skeleton weighs about 12 to 15% of your body weight.

01:51:35.000 Okay.

01:51:35.000 That's not what I heard.

01:51:36.000 Yeah, I heard it was a pretty specific number.

01:51:39.000 Really?

01:51:40.000 It's nothing that's carrying all this stuff.

01:51:43.000 We're mostly meat and water.

01:51:46.000 You know?

01:51:47.000 20 pounds?

01:51:48.000 Oh, so 20 pounds average.

01:51:52.000 But then if you're a weightlifter, I bet it's probably heavier.

01:51:56.000 But probably not that much, right?

01:51:59.000 It's just the fact that 20 pounds is holding all this shit.

01:52:01.000 I know, it's nuts.

01:52:03.000 And then all the joints and tendons and ligaments and shit.

01:52:07.000 How many times have you ever had to have surgery?

01:52:11.000 I don't know, from like motorcycle accidents.

01:52:13.000 Really?

01:52:13.000 Nothing from fighting.

01:52:14.000 Nothing from fighting?

01:52:15.000 No.

01:52:16.000 Wow, that's crazy.

01:52:17.000 Only stitched up in these buttheads or something.

01:52:19.000 But other than that, nothing.

01:52:20.000 What did you do in a motorcycle accident?

01:52:21.000 Oh, bust my lungs, shattered my back, and I still fight.

01:52:27.000 Oh my God.

01:52:28.000 That was from a motorcycle crash?

01:52:30.000 Wow.

01:52:31.000 Oh, it was fucked up.

01:52:32.000 It broke my shoulder.

01:52:34.000 And then I never knew it was broken.

01:52:35.000 The doctor said, how long was your shoulder broken?

01:52:38.000 I said, my shoulder's never been broken.

01:52:39.000 Yes, it is.

01:52:40.000 It's been broken.

01:52:41.000 I never knew my shoulder was broken.

01:52:43.000 That's crazy.

01:52:44.000 You just let it heal?

01:52:45.000 Yeah, just let it heal.

01:52:46.000 Wow.

01:52:47.000 I never knew.

01:52:48.000 If I knew, I wouldn't have went to the doctor.

01:52:50.000 Right.

01:52:51.000 That was one of the craziest post-fight interviews ever, where you were explaining that you broke your back.

01:52:57.000 What I really meant was that my back was chipping away, that little by little it started chipping away.

01:53:03.000 Uh-huh.

01:53:04.000 Yeah.

01:53:05.000 Backs are a motherfucker, because as soon as they start going...

01:53:08.000 You're finished.

01:53:09.000 You're finished.

01:53:10.000 And the question is, you can't sit down too much, you gotta be active.

01:53:14.000 You gotta stay mobile.

01:53:16.000 Once you keep sitting around the sciatica, if it comes down, I don't care how healthy you are, how much in shape it comes in when you sit too much, you're looking at home watching television.

01:53:25.000 You ever fuck with yoga?

01:53:27.000 No, I probably need to.

01:53:29.000 I just thought of it right now when you said that.

01:53:31.000 I was like, goddamn, Mike would be great at yoga.

01:53:34.000 Because you would get obsessed with it.

01:53:35.000 It's hard to do.

01:53:36.000 Yeah.

01:53:37.000 It's fucking hard.

01:53:38.000 My family don't like my obsession habit.

01:53:43.000 Of course they don't.

01:53:45.000 But that's how you become a Mike Tyson.

01:53:47.000 You have to be an obsessed person.

01:53:48.000 I'll be in the home.

01:53:48.000 I won't eat for days.

01:53:51.000 Baby, tell me, baby.

01:53:53.000 Ramadan is over, okay?

01:53:55.000 Are you fasting?

01:53:56.000 Yeah, periodically.

01:53:59.000 Listen, I can't even believe I did this for it.

01:54:03.000 Fasting is a weird one.

01:54:05.000 People get really into it.

01:54:06.000 They get a couple of days in.

01:54:07.000 Sometimes because it's a narcotic, a natural narcotic.

01:54:10.000 Yeah?

01:54:11.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:54:12.000 What does it feel like when you do it?

01:54:13.000 I've never fasted for more than a day.

01:54:15.000 Hey, um, sometimes you forget to eat the whole day.

01:54:20.000 It's just, um, I can't even explain it.

01:54:23.000 It's euphoric, but you can't even explain it.

01:54:25.000 You totally forget to eat.

01:54:27.000 Uh-uh.

01:54:27.000 At nighttime, you forget to eat.

01:54:29.000 It's just intense.

01:54:30.000 It's a really calm intensity.

01:54:33.000 It's got to be good to give your digestive system a break every now and then.

01:54:37.000 I mean, it only makes sense that that's a good idea.

01:54:41.000 People eat too much as it is.

01:54:43.000 For sure.

01:54:43.000 We as a race.

01:54:44.000 Yeah.

01:54:45.000 We as a race.

01:54:46.000 Human beings as a race, we eat too much as it is.

01:54:48.000 Yeah, we over consume.

01:54:49.000 And not only do we eat too much, we eat what kills us quicker.

01:54:53.000 I know.

01:54:54.000 And it's everywhere.

01:54:55.000 That's the other thing.

01:54:55.000 What kills us quicker is all over the place.

01:54:57.000 Yeah.

01:54:57.000 And in certain countries, only, you know, sell all that fat, all that product, like in sweeten or something.

01:55:03.000 You gotta eat all this stuff with all this magical motions and food products in there.

01:55:11.000 Yeah, all the shit that preserves things, all the weird stuff that gives people inflammation.

01:55:18.000 We got a lot of that in our diets.

01:55:20.000 Yeah, some of these cultures, they ain't going to feed you all this fat and sugar stuff.

01:55:25.000 That's not going to do it.

01:55:28.000 Think about it in the 80s, right?

01:55:30.000 Everybody in Russia was in shape.

01:55:33.000 They must have put a national shape there.

01:55:37.000 Everybody was in shape in the 80s in Russia.

01:55:39.000 Really?

01:55:40.000 All those countries, those communist countries, they were all in shape.

01:55:44.000 They all won gold medals at the Olympics all the time.

01:55:46.000 They were always in shape.

01:55:48.000 Always in better condition than Americans.

01:55:51.000 You saw when they did the statistics on how many overweight Americans they are?

01:55:56.000 That's crazy.

01:55:58.000 And the guys that don't even look overweight are overweight.

01:56:00.000 Right.

01:56:01.000 Because they don't have any muscle.

01:56:03.000 They're just all fat, even if they're not that big.

01:56:05.000 You're still obese.

01:56:06.000 Yeah.

01:56:07.000 It's very common.

01:56:08.000 Because it's the diet.

01:56:09.000 It's so easy to eat cheeseburgers.

01:56:11.000 It's so easy to pull into a drive-thru.

01:56:14.000 It's nothing wrong with doing it every now and then.

01:56:16.000 No, no.

01:56:16.000 But we do it constantly.

01:56:17.000 Constantly.

01:56:18.000 You know, when I was a little kid, we didn't have enough money to buy stuff.

01:56:20.000 We had to get free food.

01:56:22.000 Right.

01:56:22.000 You know, free lunches.

01:56:23.000 We weren't like, you know...

01:56:25.000 We just didn't have any money.

01:56:29.000 You wouldn't believe America would do that to people.

01:56:31.000 You have to leave people with no money.

01:56:33.000 It's no matter what you are, Puerto Rican, black, poor, white, there's no option to live for anything.

01:56:39.000 You're on your own.

01:56:40.000 If you make it, you make it.

01:56:41.000 If you don't, you don't.

01:56:43.000 This is the only country that's like that, I believe.

01:56:47.000 What do you think that is?

01:56:48.000 Do you think it's people not understanding what it's like to be that poor?

01:56:51.000 No, it's about survival of the fittest.

01:56:56.000 I know it sounds bad.

01:56:57.000 It doesn't sound good in this country.

01:56:58.000 That's what it's all about.

01:57:00.000 A perfect world.

01:57:01.000 Without struggle, there's no progress.

01:57:02.000 They did this study with rats where Utopia, Rat Utopia, where they gave the rats all the food and all the space they want and all the women and sex they want, and they wind up all killing each other.

01:57:19.000 Really?

01:57:20.000 Yeah, and dying out.

01:57:21.000 Because once they had everything they wanted, they'd break up in sets.

01:57:25.000 and groups and they start raping and fighting and killing each other and then they stop breathing and they just all die out.

01:57:33.000 So without struggle there's no progress.

01:57:34.000 In a perfect world we're all fucking dead.

01:57:38.000 That's heavy, because it makes sense.

01:57:40.000 It makes sense that the rats would need some sort of conflict.

01:57:43.000 There'd be the rats that are the aggressive ones here, the non-aggressive, and then there's a group of rats.

01:57:48.000 They're aggressive, but they only consider, they only think about being clean.

01:57:52.000 They stay clean, and they have aggressive ones too, but cleanliness is what you notice about them.

01:57:57.000 Then you have the victim mouse over there, then you have the aggressive, violent ones over here.

01:58:03.000 Wow.

01:58:05.000 We done a lot of fucked up studies on rats.

01:58:07.000 Think about it.

01:58:08.000 We're the rats.

01:58:09.000 We're the big rats.

01:58:12.000 The bigger brain, supposedly.

01:58:14.000 We definitely don't look at all animals the same way, right?

01:58:18.000 With rats, we feel like we're allowed to do experiments on them.

01:58:21.000 Rats and monkeys.

01:58:21.000 Like, if we do experiments on puppies, people get real mad.

01:58:24.000 Monkeys, too.

01:58:25.000 Yeah, monkeys, too.

01:58:26.000 They feel like monkeys are almost like you have to do it.

01:58:30.000 But they look at rats as, ugh, they're disgusting.

01:58:32.000 They don't look at them like nice, pretty, little white rats.

01:58:35.000 Look at those rats that's in the gutter.

01:58:37.000 Because those are the rats they use, the nice little white rats.

01:58:39.000 Yeah.

01:58:41.000 Yeah, doing experiments on monkeys is hardcore.

01:58:43.000 The reason they do rats, because rats and roaches, they have the highest survival rate.

01:58:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:58:53.000 That's why we do tests.

01:58:55.000 We do tests.

01:58:55.000 Because they're robust.

01:58:56.000 They're robust mammals.

01:58:57.000 They're hard to kill.

01:58:58.000 Real hard to kill.

01:58:59.000 I'm talking about, from a survival basis, I'm talking about cats and stuff, hunting them, not human beings.

01:59:04.000 Even us involved, they're very difficult to kill.

01:59:07.000 Did you ever see that Netflix documentary around rats?

01:59:10.000 No.

01:59:11.000 It's fucking amazing.

01:59:12.000 It's crazy.

01:59:12.000 It's how intelligent they were, huh?

01:59:14.000 They're so intelligent, they'll send a young rat to check out something to see if it's poison.

01:59:19.000 They're like, why don't you go check?

01:59:20.000 And that guy goes over there and eats it, and they watch him, and if he dies, they go, mm-mm.

01:59:24.000 Listen, roosters do that, too.

01:59:27.000 Do they really?

01:59:27.000 If they see a rooster they don't like, they rush him real quick and pluck him, and when he starts bleeding, once you start bleeding, all the other chickens start pucking you.

01:59:36.000 Wow.

01:59:38.000 And if he's going to fight over a woman, he'll push you outside.

01:59:41.000 If you see the shadow of a hawk or something, he'll push you outside for the hawk.

01:59:44.000 These guys are extremely smart.

01:59:46.000 A rooster.

01:59:46.000 A fucking rooster.

01:59:48.000 Wow.

01:59:49.000 They get jealous.

01:59:50.000 Makes sense, man.

01:59:51.000 Birds are clever.

01:59:53.000 They're a lot more clever than we ever thought they were.

01:59:55.000 Like when they started doing those intelligence tests on crows and ravens, they're like, holy shit!

02:00:01.000 Listen, how do you get a pigeon to fly from a thousand miles from here to there?

02:00:07.000 Right.

02:00:08.000 And every time you take him, he goes back.

02:00:10.000 And you hold him there for five years and let him go and he goes back.

02:00:14.000 How the fuck is that happening?

02:00:16.000 I don't know.

02:00:17.000 I fly birds.

02:00:18.000 I don't know.

02:00:18.000 When you were flying those birds, did you ever wonder, like, how are they communicating?

02:00:22.000 How are they figuring it out?

02:00:23.000 What are they using?

02:00:23.000 Hey, this is scientific.

02:00:26.000 A guess.

02:00:28.000 When birds fly, just like us, it's electric.

02:00:32.000 Right.

02:00:32.000 Some kind of electric...

02:00:34.000 What is it?

02:00:36.000 Electric...

02:00:36.000 Electromagnetic.

02:00:37.000 Some kind of vibe that leads them.

02:00:39.000 That's how it helps the birds to migrate.

02:00:40.000 Right.

02:00:41.000 It's some kind of electricity.

02:00:44.000 That happens.

02:00:44.000 I can't really...

02:00:45.000 I don't even know how to explain it to you.

02:00:48.000 I know what you're saying.

02:00:49.000 I don't know how to explain it either, but I know what you're saying.

02:00:51.000 I did read about that.

02:00:52.000 We're all static.

02:00:54.000 We're electric.

02:00:54.000 All of us, we have that electric stuff.

02:00:57.000 That's when we touch each other.

02:00:58.000 We almost electrocute each other every now and then.

02:01:01.000 You touch your body.

02:01:02.000 Yeah, static.

02:01:03.000 Jamie, pull up how do birds navigate?

02:01:07.000 Because I think that's what they do.

02:01:08.000 I think they use the poles, like the magnetic poles.

02:01:11.000 I think it's all guesswork, though.

02:01:14.000 They're trying to figure out how they do it.

02:01:16.000 But the way they do it...

02:01:17.000 How do you know to be responsible to take a whole petruna bird that's never been south and you're taking them south?

02:01:25.000 They've never been south before, but we're going south.

02:01:29.000 How do they know to go south?

02:01:30.000 And they all stay in line.

02:01:32.000 If they've all been in this one place breeding, now we gotta go south.

02:01:35.000 If it was one place hanging out, now we gotta go south and breed.

02:01:38.000 That's a whole different kind of animal.

02:01:40.000 Something that flies.

02:01:42.000 You know how wild that must be?

02:01:43.000 To just all that bullshit going on the ground.

02:01:45.000 You don't have to fuck with that.

02:01:46.000 You just get up in the sky.

02:01:49.000 But listen.

02:01:51.000 Listen.

02:01:52.000 You still gotta come down and eat like everybody else.

02:01:55.000 You still gotta come off the throne and eat.

02:01:58.000 You definitely do.

02:01:59.000 But what a wild way to live.

02:02:02.000 You know, swooping down on shit.

02:02:04.000 Well, you gotta worry about shit swooping down on you, too.

02:02:07.000 True.

02:02:08.000 Researchers have discovered a small spot on the beak of pigeons and some of the birds that contains magnetite.

02:02:15.000 Magnetite is a magnetized rock which may act as a tiny GPS unit for the homing pigeon by giving it information about its position relative to Earth's poles.

02:02:25.000 Holy fuck.

02:02:26.000 Researchers have also found some specialized cells in birds' eyes that may help them see magnetic fields.

02:02:34.000 Wow!

02:02:35.000 It is thought that birds can use both the beak magnetite and the eye sensors to travel long distances over areas that do not have many landmarks, such as the ocean.

02:02:46.000 That's incredible.

02:02:47.000 In humans, deposits of magnetite have been found in bones in our noses.

02:02:53.000 Do you think we use Earth's magnetic field to know which way we are headed?

02:02:57.000 Wow, I wonder...

02:02:58.000 Even humans.

02:02:59.000 Maybe that's something like the appendix that we grew out of.

02:03:02.000 I don't know.

02:03:03.000 You know, some people just...

02:03:05.000 Just walk.

02:03:06.000 As kids, some people just walk.

02:03:07.000 They walk for miles or something.

02:03:09.000 Just walk.

02:03:09.000 Yeah, maybe they have a better sense.

02:03:11.000 Maybe it's something that, like, atrophies without use.

02:03:14.000 You know, find out how far a bear can smell.

02:03:17.000 Oh, my God.

02:03:17.000 Say a polar bear.

02:03:18.000 How far can a polar bear smell?

02:03:20.000 Oh, polar bears.

02:03:21.000 Their noses are, like, nine times stronger than a bloodhound.

02:03:24.000 It's something insane.

02:03:24.000 They can smell a period for so many...

02:03:26.000 Oh, I can only imagine.

02:03:28.000 A period of another bear?

02:03:30.000 Yeah.

02:03:30.000 They can smell it.

02:03:30.000 Look at that.

02:03:31.000 Polar bear can smell seals and other animals up to nine kilometers, 5.6 miles away.

02:03:37.000 They can even smell the breathing holes seals create in the ice from almost one kilometer.

02:03:44.000 So although polar bear hunting ranges Can span several hundred miles.

02:03:50.000 Their sharp olfactory sense helps keep them fed.

02:03:54.000 So they smell for miles and miles and they know which way to go.

02:03:57.000 So if a polar bear has a period or if any animal's wounded or bleeding, 20 miles.

02:04:06.000 I know, there was something like that.

02:04:07.000 It was even more than that.

02:04:08.000 They can smell a seal on ice 20 miles away.

02:04:12.000 That is fucking crazy.

02:04:14.000 Hold on, put that up again.

02:04:15.000 That is so crazy.

02:04:17.000 Sniff out a seal's den that has been covered in snow and even find a seal's air hole in ice up to one mile away.

02:04:24.000 Wow.

02:04:26.000 Well, they have to have that.

02:04:27.000 Can you imagine that thing smelling a tiger fart?

02:04:31.000 It could smell for miles away.

02:04:33.000 Miles away!

02:04:35.000 Someone explained to me the way a dog smells.

02:04:39.000 They were talking about skunk.

02:04:42.000 A skunk, it only takes a few parts per million and you can smell a skunk.

02:04:49.000 That's a weird smell.

02:04:50.000 When a skunk gets killed by a car in your neighborhood, everybody smells it for a mile away.

02:04:55.000 That's the only smell that we know that's like that.

02:04:58.000 That's like an organic smell.

02:04:59.000 And he was saying, now imagine that plus times 10 for everything.

02:05:04.000 Like everything.

02:05:05.000 He said a dog, like a bloodhound, can smell not just your cheeseburger, they can smell the ketchup, they can smell the pickles, they can smell the cheese, they smell the buns.

02:05:18.000 A bear is nothing but the dog of the fucking jungle.

02:05:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:05:25.000 A bear is in the dog family.

02:05:27.000 Did you ever see the short-faced bear?

02:05:29.000 No.

02:05:29.000 You ever see that thing?

02:05:30.000 It looked like a dog.

02:05:31.000 It's a giant bear that lived, again, during the Ice Age.

02:05:35.000 And they think it might have even prevented people from crossing over that land bridge between Asia and North America.

02:05:44.000 They think it might have inhabited...

02:05:46.000 Look at the size of that.

02:05:48.000 Look at the size of that fucking thing.

02:05:50.000 That's a short-faced bear.

02:05:51.000 They think it might have inhabited that area in between the two continents.

02:05:55.000 And they were so predatory that it would have prevented travel.

02:05:58.000 Like, look how big that is.

02:06:00.000 Yeah, well, you could tell he couldn't live long because he had to run it down.

02:06:06.000 Because everything else would be too small for him.

02:06:09.000 He had to be able to run his prey down.

02:06:12.000 Yeah, look at the way he's built.

02:06:14.000 I mean, that's not built like a bear like we think of.

02:06:17.000 That short-faced bear, the way the length of the limbs, it looks like something that could run fast.

02:06:22.000 That's what's terrifying.

02:06:23.000 He's gonna do good in the prairie, but he's not gonna do good coming down the hills and going up mountains.

02:06:31.000 I don't know what he's going to do good at, but he's going to do good at eating people, I'll tell you that.

02:06:36.000 That's why he didn't survive.

02:06:37.000 That's why he didn't survive.

02:06:38.000 He was too big.

02:06:39.000 Probably, right?

02:06:40.000 You could see him.

02:06:41.000 Yeah, probably.

02:06:42.000 They probably hunted him to extinction.

02:06:43.000 I mean, if you found out that something like that was out there killing everybody.

02:06:47.000 No, you find that you can stay warm from his coat.

02:06:50.000 I eat his meat.

02:06:51.000 That's true, too.

02:06:52.000 They were eating bears, too, back then.

02:06:54.000 I know.

02:06:54.000 Oh, they eat them now.

02:06:55.000 Yeah, bears are edible.

02:06:56.000 That's a big risk back then.

02:06:58.000 You know, when all you have is, like, spears and...

02:07:00.000 What are those things called where they have, like, a spear...

02:07:03.000 an atlatl, right?

02:07:04.000 Is that what it's called?

02:07:05.000 Well, listen, they killed woolly mammoths.

02:07:07.000 They're bigger than...

02:07:08.000 Yeah.

02:07:08.000 They were vicious than bears.

02:07:09.000 Listen, we're the top apex predator.

02:07:13.000 Nobody could reach our level.

02:07:15.000 Nobody is as vicious as we are.

02:07:17.000 I'm more rational in thinking.

02:07:20.000 Definitely not today.

02:07:22.000 Today we're running the food chain.

02:07:24.000 There's no question.

02:07:25.000 And that's one of the weird things about human conflict, right?

02:07:28.000 You're talking about we always have to have some kind of conflict.

02:07:30.000 Like we were talking about the RAC study.

02:07:34.000 That exists with us too, right?

02:07:35.000 You have to have conflict.

02:07:37.000 There's no doubt about it.

02:07:39.000 If you don't have nobody to fight, you find somebody to fight.

02:07:42.000 You make somebody to fight.

02:07:43.000 Right.

02:07:44.000 You gotta either make your own conflict, or you choose to do something, or cause conflict.

02:07:49.000 Yes.

02:07:50.000 It's human nature.

02:07:51.000 It is, right?

02:07:52.000 Even from nice people.

02:07:53.000 It's just human nature.

02:07:54.000 It's just who you are.

02:07:55.000 It's just what you are.

02:07:55.000 You're not good or bad.

02:07:57.000 You just are.

02:07:57.000 You know when you see that, Mike?

02:07:59.000 You see when nice people get real aggressive about certain issues that they care about.

02:08:04.000 You see they get, whether it's like a woman's right to choose, abortion rights.

02:08:08.000 They're real aggressive.

02:08:09.000 Like nice people can say real, mean, horrible things if it's about that subject.

02:08:14.000 Yeah, if you talk about...

02:08:19.000 You know, I don't even want to say my daughter's a part of the unit.

02:08:23.000 The young ladies that want to become men.

02:08:29.000 I'm a big supporter.

02:08:30.000 I have a daughter that's in that, I don't know, what do you call it?

02:08:36.000 Community.

02:08:37.000 It's a community.

02:08:38.000 And I love how I respect her, so I respect the community.

02:08:43.000 You know, that's pretty much I know.

02:08:45.000 She's a part of the community, and she's very aggressive, like you were saying.

02:08:49.000 I had a young man named Lil Bootsy, a young rapper.

02:08:54.000 You have to know, he has to curse a lot in his music and stuff, and he said something negative about Dwyane Wade's son.

02:09:02.000 I believe he has a gay son or something, and he said something disrespectful about him.

02:09:09.000 And my daughter came to my...

02:09:11.000 She lives in New York, She came from New York to Los Angeles because she knew I was interviewing this guy.

02:09:17.000 Came in the room and sat down and said, what do you think?

02:09:20.000 Who do you think you are to talk about people like that that don't even talk about you?

02:09:23.000 CNN said nothing about you.

02:09:25.000 Why did you have to talk?

02:09:26.000 And I'm like, whoa.

02:09:27.000 I said, where did this come from?

02:09:29.000 I didn't know she was coming here.

02:09:30.000 I said, what is she doing here?

02:09:32.000 Why is she disrespecting my space?

02:09:36.000 It comes in my...

02:09:37.000 They come in here right now, your sister, your daughter come in here right now and looks at this guy and says, hey, who do you think you are?

02:09:44.000 Talking to Dwyane Wade's son.

02:09:46.000 And I'm like, hey, how do I handle this?

02:09:49.000 This guy's going to...

02:09:51.000 Say something stupid and then I'm going to lose my job because I have to defend my daughter.

02:09:56.000 Even if she's wrong, I have to defend if this guy is disrespectful.

02:09:59.000 And I'm glad this guy was respectful enough and he was a dignified guy and had more respect than people thought he did.

02:10:06.000 And he listened out.

02:10:08.000 It was just interesting to see somebody I brought in this world handle an issue.

02:10:15.000 Do you understand that?

02:10:16.000 Yeah, I do.

02:10:16.000 Somebody that I love is willing to die for some issue.

02:10:19.000 I don't really...

02:10:21.000 I don't know.

02:10:23.000 I'm not against them.

02:10:24.000 But now I'm with these people without even wanting to be involved with this in a way.

02:10:30.000 Do you understand what I mean?

02:10:31.000 Yeah, I do know what you mean.

02:10:32.000 Yeah.

02:10:33.000 Yeah, that's a...

02:10:35.000 You know, when your child asserts themselves in a way that's very powerful to them, like means a lot to them, it changes your thoughts of whatever that thing are.

02:10:46.000 My thoughts is that right or wrong, I'm just there to fight.

02:10:49.000 I don't care if they're right or wrong, I'm just there.

02:10:51.000 Of course, you're the father.

02:10:53.000 That's the strongest bond in the world.

02:10:55.000 That would be the most terrifying situation ever.

02:10:57.000 The most terrifying situation ever.

02:10:59.000 We get in an argument with your daughter.

02:11:01.000 Well, you're right there.

02:11:03.000 She's meaner than I was.

02:11:04.000 You don't want to get involved with her.

02:11:06.000 This is not funny at all.

02:11:07.000 You don't want to get angry.

02:11:09.000 I believe you.

02:11:09.000 I don't use the word bitch and stuff and like chick and broad and stuff if I'm around her.

02:11:15.000 I get it.

02:11:16.000 Whoa.

02:11:16.000 Not worth it.

02:11:17.000 No.

02:11:18.000 No.

02:11:19.000 Lady, I gotta say, him or her, it, whatever she tells me to say, this is what I say.

02:11:25.000 Yeah.

02:11:26.000 She's mean.

02:11:27.000 She's mean.

02:11:29.000 All the women on the price side of my family, who's my mother, they don't take no crap.

02:11:35.000 They don't take no crap.

02:11:41.000 There's a lot of women fighters now.

02:11:43.000 That's an interesting turn of events over the last few decades.

02:11:47.000 A lot of women are UFC fighters.

02:11:49.000 I said one day I had Gabe Rose.

02:11:50.000 Remember Rose?

02:11:52.000 Rose number, yeah.

02:11:52.000 I said, Rose is hot.

02:11:54.000 And the Chinese girl that was fighting said, Mike doesn't know nothing about boxing.

02:11:58.000 He's an idiot.

02:11:58.000 And she wanted to fight me.

02:12:00.000 I'm so happy Rose knocked her out.

02:12:01.000 I thought she was going to kill Rose.

02:12:03.000 Because I said, well, Rose is hot.

02:12:06.000 It's obvious that Mike Tyson doesn't know nothing about the fight game and this and that.

02:12:10.000 I wonder if she really said that, though, because someone had to translate that from Chinese.

02:12:13.000 No, listen, I'm sure she said that.

02:12:16.000 I'm sure she said that.

02:12:17.000 I'm trying to let her off the hook.

02:12:18.000 I'm sure she said it.

02:12:20.000 She didn't fool her.

02:12:20.000 And I'm thinking she's going to kill Rose.

02:12:22.000 Rose clocked her.

02:12:23.000 Oh, God, thank God.

02:12:25.000 Rose caught her with a high kick.

02:12:26.000 Beautiful kick.

02:12:27.000 Beautiful kick.

02:12:28.000 And the second fight was really good, too.

02:12:29.000 She fought her twice?

02:12:30.000 Yeah, they fought a second time.

02:12:31.000 What happened there?

02:12:31.000 Rose won a decision.

02:12:33.000 And it was a really good fight.

02:12:34.000 Really good fight.

02:12:35.000 See, Rose surprised her.

02:12:36.000 She thought she was going to come kick Rose's pretty ass.

02:12:40.000 Rose is no joke, man.

02:12:41.000 Well, no, not at all.

02:12:42.000 She's so serious.

02:12:43.000 And when she was, before that fight, this was, I talked to her about it in the post-fight interview.

02:12:47.000 She was standing there while they're, like, introducing the fighters.

02:12:51.000 She's sitting there going, I'm the best!

02:12:53.000 I'm the best!

02:12:54.000 I'm the best!

02:12:55.000 She just kept saying that.

02:12:56.000 That's what I say in that fight.

02:12:57.000 She just kept saying it.

02:12:59.000 The best in the world.

02:13:00.000 The best if nobody could match me.

02:13:02.000 I'm the best ever.

02:13:03.000 I'm the sick kid, right?

02:13:05.000 But you were right.

02:13:06.000 At the time, you were right.

02:13:07.000 When she's saying it, she was right, too.

02:13:09.000 She was right.

02:13:10.000 She channeled it.

02:13:11.000 Look at her right here.

02:13:12.000 She's ready.

02:13:13.000 Yeah, she's just going, I'm the best.

02:13:15.000 I'm the best.

02:13:16.000 And then when I interviewed her afterwards, she goes, yeah, I am the best.

02:13:21.000 And we were laughing.

02:13:21.000 It was really funny.

02:13:23.000 I asked her about it.

02:13:25.000 Look at her crying.

02:13:28.000 Buffer was saying your name.

02:13:30.000 You were saying to yourself, I'm the best.

02:13:32.000 I'm the best.

02:13:33.000 I am the best.

02:13:36.000 I mean, come on.

02:13:37.000 How do you not love her?

02:13:39.000 You sure we are.

02:13:40.000 There's no doubt about that now.

02:13:42.000 Shit.

02:13:43.000 I mean, look at her crying like that.

02:13:48.000 Shit, nigga.

02:13:49.000 I got my eyes wet.

02:13:50.000 It's a crazy thing, man.

02:13:51.000 It's a crazy thing to see.

02:13:53.000 Fighting's so emotional.

02:13:55.000 Yes.

02:13:55.000 People don't understand fighting is so spiritual.

02:13:59.000 There's a lot to that.

02:14:00.000 When you're expressing yourself in a fight, when you watch a perfect performance, the excited energy that spreads from people watching that all over the world.

02:14:11.000 If somebody watched one of your great knockouts, if you were watching it live, all these people watching together, this excited burst of energy goes through the whole world.

02:14:22.000 I always wish I could be...

02:14:25.000 In the stands watching me fight.

02:14:28.000 Did anybody do that that way for you?

02:14:31.000 Was there one guy who you used to like to watch fight live?

02:14:34.000 Shit, Duran.

02:14:35.000 Duran.

02:14:40.000 I wasn't around in the 70s, but like in 79, 80, 81, 82. Shit.

02:14:46.000 His whole career in the 80s.

02:14:48.000 What a monster.

02:14:49.000 Most people don't even know the Duran pre-welterweight.

02:14:52.000 They think of Duran as being welterweight, but the Ken Buchanan days.

02:14:56.000 Seven years undefeated champion.

02:14:58.000 He was a vicious motherfucker at lightweight.

02:15:00.000 My God, he was good.

02:15:01.000 Fuck.

02:15:02.000 That was probably his best division, right?

02:15:04.000 Yeah.

02:15:05.000 He was just an intelligent savage.

02:15:07.000 Exactly.

02:15:08.000 When he went up in weight, he was out boxing these smack monsters like Hagler and these guys.

02:15:16.000 They thought Hagler was gonna kill him.

02:15:19.000 Yeah, and Hagler was Hagler back then.

02:15:21.000 Yeah, the whole 12 or 15 rounds was Crazy.

02:15:24.000 Close decision, too.

02:15:26.000 It was a close fight.

02:15:27.000 Well, even when he fought Davey Moore, people thought he was Davey.

02:15:29.000 Oh, I was at that fight.

02:15:30.000 Were you really?

02:15:31.000 I was 18, I was at that fight.

02:15:33.000 When was I 18, I was 18 to 17, I was at that fight.

02:15:37.000 I'll never forget.

02:15:38.000 It was 82, 83. I didn't watch that fight live, because I was sad, because it was like post-Nomas.

02:15:45.000 Yo!

02:15:45.000 Duran went through a period of darkness, right?

02:15:48.000 But I saw like...

02:15:50.000 Davey Moore at the time had like 9 fights, 10 fights.

02:15:53.000 The man had, what, 80 fights?

02:15:55.000 The man had a lot of fights.

02:15:57.000 He had over 100 fights in his career.

02:15:59.000 Yeah, he had a lot of fights.

02:16:00.000 And when he dropped Davey Moore...

02:16:02.000 Oh, I was right.

02:16:03.000 The crowd wouldn't quit.

02:16:04.000 I couldn't believe it.

02:16:04.000 Listen, it was nothing but 19,850 Latinos, okay?

02:16:14.000 That was 20,000, man.

02:16:16.000 Wow.

02:16:17.000 Only 500 people, probably 200 people weren't Latino, okay?

02:16:21.000 19,000 people, 800, that was all Latino.

02:16:25.000 Did you see, is it called The Four Kings?

02:16:28.000 What is that documentary?

02:16:30.000 Yeah, Hagler, Leonard, Tommy Hearns, and Duran.

02:16:36.000 And they followed their career, they followed their ascension.

02:16:39.000 They weren't afraid to fight each other.

02:16:41.000 Oh man, they fought each other in wars, man.

02:16:43.000 Crazy, they would never do that now.

02:16:45.000 Well, I mean, maybe if you stirred the right amount of money around...

02:16:48.000 But listen, Duran and Hearns, they made more money than the welterweights do now.

02:16:53.000 Probably, right?

02:16:53.000 No, they did.

02:16:54.000 They had $7,000, $20 million fights.

02:16:58.000 These welterweights, nobody in this welterweight gets $20 million fights.

02:17:01.000 Probably Pacquiao, but nobody in here gets that kind of money like Lyndon and Duran got.

02:17:06.000 They kind of have to all fight it out, right?

02:17:09.000 Yeah, the best fought the best.

02:17:10.000 That's why they got the most money.

02:17:13.000 Do you think that's possible today?

02:17:14.000 Like, if that would be possible, if you had a tournament that would get together like Terrence Crawford, Errol Spence, all these guys, I mean Pacquiao's kind of, I think he's retired.

02:17:25.000 He can still fight and still beat some of these guys.

02:17:27.000 He still can, yes.

02:17:29.000 He just beat Thurman.

02:17:31.000 Thurman's no bum at no measure at all.

02:17:34.000 No, not at all.

02:17:35.000 And he dropped him with a right hand, a sneaky right hand.

02:17:37.000 The guy that he fought, that guy was just awkward, long arms and stuff.

02:17:40.000 He should've fought somebody else.

02:17:42.000 Well, it was a big change in opponent, right?

02:17:44.000 Yeah.

02:17:45.000 Who was he supposed to fight?

02:17:47.000 He was supposed to fight a big-name guy.

02:17:49.000 Right.

02:17:50.000 But this guy's just one of those Cuban fighters.

02:17:53.000 He's awkward.

02:17:53.000 He's hard to fight.

02:17:54.000 He's going to be tough for Spence.

02:17:56.000 Spence, too.

02:17:57.000 This guy's going to give Spence some problems, too, I think.

02:17:59.000 I might be wrong.

02:18:00.000 Spence might hit him on the chin and he's knocking cold.

02:18:03.000 Spence has serious power.

02:18:05.000 It's good to see.

02:18:06.000 He needs to be more active.

02:18:08.000 Yeah.

02:18:10.000 Consistency.

02:18:11.000 Right.

02:18:11.000 Well, he did go through that crazy car accident.

02:18:13.000 Remember he flipped his Ferrari?

02:18:15.000 Listen, we forget that, don't we?

02:18:17.000 This guy should be insane.

02:18:18.000 He should be dead.

02:18:19.000 Yeah.

02:18:19.000 He should be dead.

02:18:20.000 I mean, he's so fortunate that he's alive.

02:18:21.000 That's what I mean.

02:18:21.000 He should be one of these insane to him.

02:18:23.000 His brain should be rattled up.

02:18:24.000 Dude, he's so lucky.

02:18:25.000 You saw him fly out the car?

02:18:26.000 Yeah, he's so lucky he's alive.

02:18:28.000 So lucky he's alive.

02:18:29.000 Holy moly.

02:18:30.000 So lucky he's alive.

02:18:32.000 That's just like...

02:18:33.000 I think all he did was chip a tooth.

02:18:35.000 You saw him fly out the car though?

02:18:37.000 Fly out of the fucking car.

02:18:38.000 I've been dead.

02:18:41.000 What happened to me?

02:18:42.000 He broke his pinky or something?

02:18:44.000 I don't think it was that bad.

02:18:45.000 Whatever it was, it was not that bad.

02:18:46.000 I mean, I was watching him hit myths.

02:18:47.000 Was he drunk and stuff when that happened?

02:18:49.000 I don't know.

02:18:50.000 I don't know.

02:18:51.000 I just know he lost control.

02:18:53.000 I mean, he was a Ferrari.

02:18:54.000 You know, a car like that is so fucking fast.

02:18:57.000 The average person who doesn't know how to drive that good can get themselves in trouble real quick with one of those.

02:19:03.000 I've gotten so many speeding tickets in my life.

02:19:07.000 Yeah.

02:19:08.000 It's racing other people.

02:19:09.000 Yeah.

02:19:10.000 You see them with their Porsche and my Ferrari.

02:19:12.000 Let's go!

02:19:14.000 That's so dangerous.

02:19:16.000 Yeah.

02:19:19.000 You can get cars today that are just so fucking fast.

02:19:22.000 Just a regular car.

02:19:24.000 The power keeps going up and up and up.

02:19:26.000 Say I want a really nice car, a really nice sports car.

02:19:29.000 Say I want a...

02:19:33.000 Give myself a surprise.

02:19:35.000 Be nice to myself.

02:19:36.000 Right.

02:19:36.000 Give yourself a treat.

02:19:36.000 So I buy one of these super Aston Martin cars that they don't have to spec for in the United States.

02:19:43.000 So I get this dealer place so I could drive this car that's illegal in the States, but if I put dealer place on it, I can drive it.

02:19:49.000 Isn't that incredible?

02:19:51.000 That is incredible.

02:19:52.000 If I got dealer plates, I could take this car that has no specs and drive it in this country, that's illegal just because I have the plates.

02:20:00.000 You know what's another crazy thing you can do?

02:20:01.000 I can't own the car to drive it in the country.

02:20:04.000 You could have diplomatic plates.

02:20:05.000 Yeah.

02:20:06.000 So you could be from another country and have other countries' plates and drive around cars in America.

02:20:12.000 So guys come from Saudi Arabia.

02:20:14.000 They're ballers.

02:20:14.000 They got all this crazy money.

02:20:15.000 They buy Lamborghinis and they have all these diplomat plates on them.

02:20:19.000 They ride around Beverly Hills.

02:20:21.000 I used to have the Lamborghini Jeep.

02:20:23.000 I saw it in Saudi Arabia.

02:20:24.000 I used to race them.

02:20:25.000 The LM2. The original Lamborghini Jeep.

02:20:29.000 I saw them in Saudi Arabia and I saw the race.

02:20:32.000 I got involved with the race.

02:20:34.000 And so I said when I come home and buy one of these.

02:20:36.000 That was before people were buying SUVs.

02:20:39.000 There wasn't a lot of people buying SUVs.

02:20:41.000 Oh, but that was a monster.

02:20:41.000 That car was a monster.

02:20:43.000 You couldn't afford the monster.

02:20:47.000 I had the white one and I had the black one.

02:20:49.000 It's so cool looking.

02:20:51.000 Oh my God, look at that.

02:20:55.000 A Lamborghini truck.

02:20:57.000 That's the one I have right there.

02:20:59.000 Wow.

02:21:00.000 And what year is this?

02:21:00.000 That's 87, something like that.

02:21:03.000 Wow.

02:21:04.000 What year does it say here?

02:21:05.000 It was 86. It's 88 right there.

02:21:07.000 The 80s is 87. Wow.

02:21:09.000 That's 82 old.

02:21:10.000 Look at that thing.

02:21:11.000 That's crazy.

02:21:13.000 82. You made them as early as 82?

02:21:15.000 That was a prototype?

02:21:16.000 This is what happened.

02:21:18.000 I moved to Burnoutsville, New Jersey, and the first guess I get is Malcolm Forbes.

02:21:24.000 Wow.

02:21:25.000 He's my first, you know, he welcomes me to the neighborhood.

02:21:27.000 He comes up, and he comes up with this truck, and I say, what is that?

02:21:32.000 Can you please tell me what that is?

02:21:33.000 He says, it's nothing.

02:21:35.000 It only costs money, and you have a lot of that.

02:21:41.000 That's hilarious.

02:21:42.000 Oh, man.

02:21:43.000 I saw Jamie Foxx drives one of those crazy trucks.

02:21:47.000 You know those things?

02:21:49.000 What are those new ones that everybody's driving around that look like spaceships?

02:21:53.000 What's that?

02:21:55.000 I'm trying to remember the name of the truck.

02:21:57.000 What is it called?

02:21:58.000 Wow!

02:22:00.000 Resvani.

02:22:01.000 That is really nice.

02:22:02.000 I pulled into a gas station and I'm filling my car and this thing pulls in and Jamie Foxx gets out of it.

02:22:09.000 I go, what is that?

02:22:10.000 That is something to be jealous of.

02:22:13.000 It's wild looking.

02:22:15.000 It's got like the innards.

02:22:18.000 I think some of it is from Jeep and then they redid the whole thing and they sell them.

02:22:23.000 They're bulletproof sometimes.

02:22:25.000 They sell them, they do all kinds of wacky shit, like they spray smoke out of the back of them.

02:22:31.000 Hey, listen, listen, I was the first guy that had a car, boom, I pressed a button, got tax come out, big tax, give you flats and shit.

02:22:39.000 I pressed a button, I got a smoke screen come out.

02:22:42.000 You had that?

02:22:43.000 Yeah, I had that before.

02:22:44.000 Anybody, I had the iron tax come out to get the cops slapped the tires and everything.

02:22:49.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

02:22:50.000 And big nails.

02:22:52.000 Wow.

02:22:53.000 Wow.

02:22:54.000 That's crazy.

02:22:55.000 They were doing that back then.

02:22:56.000 And then I could know what else.

02:22:56.000 I could put oil on the floor to make the car slip.

02:22:59.000 Look at this shit.

02:23:00.000 Electromagnetic pulse protection.

02:23:01.000 Wow.

02:23:03.000 Radiated from a nuclear explosion and rendered electronic devices inoperable.

02:23:07.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

02:23:09.000 They're talking about surviving a nuclear explosion in your Jeep?

02:23:12.000 And it has thermal night vision system.

02:23:14.000 Oh, a night vision system!

02:23:15.000 That's crazy!

02:23:16.000 You know about the, um, you know deer, right?

02:23:20.000 Yeah.

02:23:21.000 They're the only one that can see that the bear is not white.

02:23:24.000 You see his white coat, it's not, it's ever-vescent.

02:23:26.000 I forgot what the word, ever-vescent, and the deer can see it.

02:23:29.000 That's why when they cover the nose, he covers his nose only for the seals and stuff, but the deer can see his fur.

02:23:34.000 It's not white.

02:23:36.000 I don't know what it is.

02:23:38.000 I think it's transparent.

02:23:40.000 Yeah, that's what it is.

02:23:40.000 I think it's like a clear.

02:23:43.000 Yeah, it just looks like it's white.

02:23:44.000 The reindeer can see it.

02:23:45.000 And that's all these spots and he can see it.

02:23:47.000 Because the polar bear is really black, you know, right?

02:23:50.000 The body is, yeah.

02:23:51.000 And then it's covered by the skin.

02:23:53.000 The skin is black and the fur is ever-vescent.

02:23:57.000 Yeah, whatever it is.

02:23:58.000 But how does that work?

02:23:59.000 He's black, but the How did that fur come out?

02:24:01.000 There's so much fur.

02:24:02.000 But it's not white.

02:24:03.000 It's not white.

02:24:04.000 Because it's clear.

02:24:04.000 It's clear.

02:24:05.000 And there's so much of it that's stacked on top, it looks white.

02:24:08.000 And then it covers all of the body because it's amazing insulation.

02:24:12.000 Apparently the hairs on a polar bear are very different.

02:24:15.000 They're like a tube.

02:24:16.000 And they float.

02:24:18.000 Really?

02:24:19.000 Yeah, he floats.

02:24:20.000 He can't sink.

02:24:21.000 He's a float.

02:24:22.000 He just sits out there and floats.

02:24:23.000 Oh, that makes sense.

02:24:24.000 That makes sense.

02:24:24.000 They're like little tubes.

02:24:25.000 Yeah, he just floats.

02:24:26.000 And he can also swim.

02:24:28.000 I mean, they dive underwater and get seals and shit and come out with them.

02:24:30.000 Yeah, but they can't sink.

02:24:34.000 I forgot what they call it, but they buoyancy.

02:24:38.000 Yeah.

02:24:40.000 It's a scary-ass animal because polar bears are one animal where they see you, they're coming to kill you.

02:24:46.000 Nothing's scary.

02:24:47.000 But bears are too grizzly bears.

02:24:49.000 As soon as they see you, they attack you.

02:24:51.000 Some grizzly bears will, but some of them will avoid you.

02:24:53.000 But grizzly bears eat.

02:24:55.000 They eat grass, and they eat berries, and they eat fruit, and they eat dead animals, and then they eat animals that they catch.

02:25:01.000 But polar bears only eat meat.

02:25:04.000 That's the difference.

02:25:05.000 They don't eat any berries.

02:25:06.000 There's no fucking berries up there.

02:25:07.000 The reason why is because of the cold.

02:25:10.000 There's no berries grow in the cold.

02:25:11.000 No berries grow in the cold.

02:25:13.000 This friend of mine is very smart and he you know he talks about every he goes everybody's worried about global warming he goes it's definitely something you should be concerned about he goes but you know what you should really be concerned about global cooling he goes because if the world gets too warm he goes we can survive if the world gets too cold we're fucked we can't grow any food but eventually you will maybe it has I believe so it has I believe so This whole fucking country was covered in a mile-high sheet of ice.

02:25:44.000 It's like half of the country, half of North America 12,000-plus years ago was covered in ice.

02:25:51.000 They were talking about study under ice poles.

02:25:54.000 They showed there was a...

02:25:59.000 A community, so to speak, was under the ice in the South Pole.

02:26:02.000 Oh, like an old city that they discovered?

02:26:05.000 Yes.

02:26:06.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

02:26:07.000 I think any time you got like a community that lives by the ocean, that ocean moves, man.

02:26:13.000 I mean, especially over history, thousands of years of people being alive, that fucking thing moves.

02:26:18.000 Yeah, because France, like we were saying before, like 40,000 years was attached to Africa.

02:26:21.000 That's crazy.

02:26:22.000 I didn't know that.

02:26:23.000 40,000 years ago, it was attached.

02:26:24.000 Something must have happened.

02:26:25.000 The ocean must have flooded or something, but it used to be connected.

02:26:28.000 There's places in Montana where you can find seashells.

02:26:32.000 In Montana.

02:26:33.000 And there was apparently a great inland sea all throughout Montana.

02:26:37.000 In Montana, don't you find all those prehistoric animals there?

02:26:40.000 A lot of dinosaurs.

02:26:42.000 Yeah, they find dinosaurs there.

02:26:43.000 Tennessee, Montana, Utah.

02:26:45.000 Montana's a big one.

02:26:46.000 I think Utah too, yeah.

02:26:48.000 Yeah, they find all kinds of wild old shit up there.

02:26:51.000 That's the wildest thing.

02:26:53.000 When they find something, you realize, oh, this is an animal that lived 25 million years ago.

02:26:58.000 Like, what the fuck is this?

02:27:00.000 And sometimes you see the ancestors of it that's living now.

02:27:05.000 Yeah.

02:27:05.000 Giant sloths and stuff like that.

02:27:07.000 Or when they go way back and they find actual dinosaurs, you find things that are 150, 250 million years old.

02:27:13.000 Like, what?

02:27:14.000 This is a 250-million-year-old skeleton?

02:27:17.000 What the fuck?

02:27:18.000 Hey, listen.

02:27:19.000 How do we tell time?

02:27:20.000 How do we tell that it's 250 years old?

02:27:22.000 Forget the bones and the trees.

02:27:23.000 Good question.

02:27:24.000 How do we tell somebody that knows something we don't know?

02:27:27.000 Yeah.

02:27:28.000 The people that don't know is only at the mercy to the people that know, right?

02:27:31.000 So who are we at mercy to?

02:27:33.000 The fucking scientists that tell the shit.

02:27:35.000 And then I go to this guy and I say, hey, look it up on YouTube.

02:27:39.000 Yeah.

02:27:40.000 YouTube never lies.

02:27:41.000 Look it up at YouTube.

02:27:43.000 I think the way they do it, I think it's called, it's carbon, carbon testing.

02:27:47.000 Yeah, but you look at the trees, you see the rings.

02:27:49.000 No, they do.

02:27:50.000 I think they take a piece of it and then they measure the amount of carbon.

02:27:54.000 No, they don't know.

02:27:55.000 They do that because they don't know and they tell you this is how we tell.

02:27:58.000 I think they can only tell within a large, it's not like they can tell the week that this thing was put in the ground.

02:28:05.000 Okay.

02:28:05.000 They can tell you within X amount of years, and they just guess based on how much carbon is still in the object.

02:28:15.000 Things have a base level of carbon, apparently.

02:28:17.000 Somebody can explain it to me.

02:28:18.000 I don't believe them.

02:28:22.000 I have the right not to believe them.

02:28:24.000 Yeah, they might be wrong.

02:28:27.000 They're telling me because I'm at the mercy of them so they're gonna tell me something and I'm gonna say yeah it's true because I'm at that mercy.

02:28:34.000 I don't have to believe it because I'm not astute to it.

02:28:38.000 I don't have to believe it.

02:28:40.000 I could be an idiot but it could still be wrong.

02:28:41.000 It doesn't sound good to me.

02:28:43.000 What I'm willing to listen to is the process in which they figured out how to measure how much carbon is in a thing, and then how they figured out that if you applied that, the things that you knew were a certain amount of age old, you could get sort of a formula to calculate how old things are.

02:29:03.000 I want to know this.

02:29:05.000 I want to know who was the first me.

02:29:07.000 Who was the first dick to come in my family that led up to me?

02:29:12.000 Right.

02:29:13.000 Who was that?

02:29:13.000 How'd that happen?

02:29:14.000 Since the beginning of time, the first person, who was that?

02:29:18.000 Right.

02:29:18.000 We used to be lower hominids, right?

02:29:21.000 And then we evolved into being human beings.

02:29:23.000 When did we officially become human beings?

02:29:25.000 Oh, that's recently.

02:29:27.000 A couple of hundred years.

02:29:28.000 I don't think a couple of hundred thousand a year.

02:29:31.000 I'm talking about when it was on the book, we were human.

02:29:33.000 When did that happen?

02:29:34.000 I think Homo sapiens, I think you're looking at like a half a million years.

02:29:39.000 Really?

02:29:39.000 I think that's supposedly what we are.

02:29:42.000 We're a half a million years old.

02:29:44.000 But then we had to go to the mungular time, munguloids.

02:29:47.000 Yeah, well there's also, that's coexisting with Neanderthals, coexisting with those hobbit people on the island of Flores.

02:29:54.000 Yeah.

02:29:54.000 You've seen that?

02:29:55.000 That's wild, man.

02:29:57.000 Did you ever see that island outside of India?

02:30:01.000 North Sentinel Island.

02:30:02.000 Yeah, Sentinel.

02:30:02.000 Yes, yeah.

02:30:03.000 That's where the missionary went to the Bible.

02:30:05.000 Jesus loves you!

02:30:07.000 Whap!

02:30:07.000 Build him up, man.

02:30:09.000 Hard.

02:30:10.000 I do a bit about it, unfortunately.

02:30:11.000 They put a rope around his neck and drug him into the darkness.

02:30:15.000 They killed him.

02:30:16.000 They probably ate him and fucked him and did all kinds of shit.

02:30:19.000 Listen, did you see...

02:30:20.000 What's my man named Jackass?

02:30:23.000 Come on, my man.

02:30:24.000 Johnny Knoxville?

02:30:25.000 No.

02:30:25.000 Steve-O? Steve-O. You ever see Steve-O... Steve-O's with some indigenous people and they're trying to eat him.

02:30:31.000 Put that on.

02:30:32.000 You see that?

02:30:32.000 Steve-O with some indigenous nigga.

02:30:34.000 They're eating him, trying to hump his ass.

02:30:35.000 Oh, you gotta see this stuff, man.

02:30:37.000 Steve-O's crazy.

02:30:38.000 On an island with indigenous people.

02:30:39.000 Steve-O's so crazy.

02:30:41.000 But yeah, that North Sentinel Island, that's a crazy story.

02:30:45.000 I wonder what's in that, you know, in the corridor, what they have there, who they're eating, what they're doing, how they function.

02:30:54.000 There's not enough of them.

02:30:55.000 I know, but they know to fucking shoot you with a bow and arrow.

02:30:58.000 Yeah, they know to shoot you with a bow and arrow, but I think they're worried about, I think they've been fucked with historically.

02:31:03.000 We go there, we get them sick.

02:31:05.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:31:05.000 They get sick, they're not inoculated.

02:31:07.000 As soon as we go there, we look at them.

02:31:08.000 We get too close, they get sick and die.

02:31:10.000 That's why they kill us, because they say, all of a sudden, we get next to these guys, we die!

02:31:15.000 Well, they probably have stories about people who visited and got people sick.

02:31:18.000 Oh, yeah.

02:31:18.000 Listen, they went there one time and they took a couple of them, kidnapped, and they started dying, and so they sent them back.

02:31:25.000 But, yeah, we killed them.

02:31:26.000 We're disgusting.

02:31:27.000 We have diseases and stuff.

02:31:28.000 You know, we get inoculated.

02:31:29.000 We could still kill these guys.

02:31:31.000 Yeah, we were just talking about this, that 90% of the people in North America were dead because of viruses.

02:31:37.000 90% of them.

02:31:38.000 When the Europeans showed up, it killed everybody.

02:31:40.000 Syphilis wiped them out.

02:31:41.000 Everybody.

02:31:42.000 And syphilis comes from skin disease, from not being...

02:31:47.000 Hygiene?

02:31:48.000 Hygiene.

02:31:49.000 Really?

02:31:49.000 And then we started becoming more hygienic and started getting clean and it started dying.

02:31:54.000 Wow.

02:31:54.000 And so it went inside of us.

02:31:56.000 It went into our vaginal system to survive.

02:31:59.000 And that's how we got the syphilis.

02:32:01.000 It was only a skin disease at first.

02:32:03.000 Really?

02:32:04.000 Yeah.

02:32:05.000 Holy shit.

02:32:06.000 And then it wanted to survive because people started living cleanly.

02:32:09.000 And it wanted to survive so it went into a vaginal.

02:32:11.000 Wow.

02:32:14.000 Whoa.

02:32:15.000 You should look at the history of venereal diseases.

02:32:18.000 I always look at the history of stuff and it blows my mind.

02:32:21.000 I've always wondered, because it's a crazy thing to have diseases that specifically come through sex.

02:32:26.000 It's kind of crazy, and it's how many of them kill people.

02:32:30.000 It's a way by checking our animalistic tendencies.

02:32:35.000 Checking our drive.

02:32:37.000 Give us a disease that makes fucking dangerous.

02:32:41.000 Makes us conscious.

02:32:42.000 It's on you now.

02:32:42.000 It's on you, but we're conscious of it now.

02:32:44.000 Do you know about the whole powdered wig thing?

02:32:46.000 Tell me about the powdered wig.

02:32:48.000 You know those old dudes in ancient times where they wore that because of syphilis?

02:32:53.000 Really?

02:32:54.000 Yes.

02:32:54.000 This guy was a French...

02:32:55.000 I thought rats and stuff got in those guys' heads.

02:32:57.000 Oh, I'm sure they probably did.

02:32:59.000 But the guy who started it off, it's attributed to these two French...

02:33:03.000 They were cousins, right?

02:33:04.000 Weren't they cousins?

02:33:04.000 I think they were cousins.

02:33:06.000 But they were royalty, big time, big people.

02:33:10.000 And when they started getting syphilis, their hair was falling out.

02:33:13.000 So they got wigs.

02:33:15.000 And so this is what would happen to these people's heads.

02:33:17.000 It impacts your brain.

02:33:19.000 It impacts everything.

02:33:21.000 They get holes in their faces.

02:33:23.000 So the more money you had, the bigger the wig was.

02:33:27.000 So that's why the term big wig, that's where it came from.

02:33:30.000 The term big wig goes back to when these European men were all getting syphilis.

02:33:36.000 Their fucking hair was falling out.

02:33:38.000 It's wild!

02:33:39.000 Listen, Sicilis is nothing now, but before it was a dead man's disease.

02:33:43.000 Once you got there, you went crazy.

02:33:44.000 Yeah, I mean, it dragged holes through people.

02:33:46.000 Isn't that what killed Al Pacino?

02:33:48.000 Or Al Capone, rather?

02:33:49.000 Al Capone, yeah.

02:33:49.000 Al Capone?

02:33:50.000 Yeah.

02:33:51.000 Bo Bremel.

02:33:52.000 Oh, it makes your fucking face rot off, too.

02:33:55.000 It attacks your brain.

02:33:57.000 What a terrible way to go.

02:33:59.000 But it's just crazy that there's so many diseases like that that just come from fucking.

02:34:03.000 It's wild.

02:34:06.000 I don't know.

02:34:08.000 I think it's just a natural form of trying to check us.

02:34:11.000 Is humanity checking us?

02:34:13.000 I think you're dead right.

02:34:14.000 I think that's exactly what it is.

02:34:16.000 It just may make sense that something like that would eat.

02:34:18.000 Otherwise, we would just fuck up a storm.

02:34:20.000 As much food as we had.

02:34:21.000 Listen, have you ever listened to how life was and sex was at Roman time?

02:34:27.000 Yes.

02:34:27.000 You're fighting the streets.

02:34:28.000 Yep.

02:34:29.000 Slaves are getting pumped in the streets.

02:34:31.000 You're fighting the streets.

02:34:36.000 Right in the middle of the street.

02:34:38.000 It's everything.

02:34:40.000 And then I guess they thought, who was it?

02:34:44.000 Which one was it?

02:34:45.000 The Roman emperors?

02:34:46.000 Augustus.

02:34:46.000 I think he started having a moral check on people.

02:34:51.000 Started giving people more.

02:34:52.000 He was a philosopher warrior after he won all the wars and killed everybody.

02:34:56.000 He became a peaceful philosopher.

02:34:58.000 Marcus Aurelius.

02:34:59.000 Yeah, that's who it is.

02:34:59.000 Marcus Aurelius.

02:35:00.000 Yeah, Marcus Aurelius is Meditations.

02:35:03.000 I'm in the middle of that right now.

02:35:04.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:35:04.000 Listen.

02:35:07.000 This is beautiful.

02:35:08.000 It's amazing.

02:35:08.000 But this is a bloodthirsty monarch that's telling us this.

02:35:11.000 True.

02:35:12.000 That's true.

02:35:12.000 He's seen the light, but this guy didn't.

02:35:14.000 Oh, he wrecked some.

02:35:16.000 Ooh.

02:35:16.000 He did some.

02:35:17.000 He dominated countries.

02:35:19.000 Yeah.

02:35:20.000 Decimated them.

02:35:21.000 They all did.

02:35:22.000 You know, the wild thing about Rome, particularly like the Roman emperors and the Roman Colosseum, is you could still go there today and stand on the very ground where the Colosseum was.

02:35:34.000 I went for a tour in the Colosseum.

02:35:36.000 Did you go underground with the animals and the warriors?

02:35:38.000 Yeah, where they used to have animals.

02:35:40.000 The animals would come up on, like elevators, would rise up, they'd pull them on pulleys, they'd pull up to the top, and there would be a warrior waiting with a shield and a sword to fight off a tiger.

02:35:49.000 Do you know...

02:35:50.000 The Gladiates back there was the equivalent of MMA fighters and fighters now.

02:35:56.000 Yeah.

02:35:57.000 They were superstars.

02:35:57.000 They weren't just slaves.

02:35:58.000 Right.

02:35:59.000 They won their freedom three or four times.

02:36:02.000 They wouldn't give up.

02:36:02.000 They still wanted to fight until they died in the arena because they loved the attention they got.

02:36:07.000 Totally makes sense.

02:36:08.000 Listen, they showed ancient times in Rome.

02:36:11.000 I don't know if they showed the ancient times how people lived.

02:36:13.000 They had a couch, had a little table, and they had a picture of a warrior up there.

02:36:18.000 It's like we might have a fighter or something.

02:36:19.000 They had a warrior take the, you know, chisels in the wall.

02:36:24.000 Makes sense.

02:36:25.000 It was just like modern times.

02:36:26.000 They had their hats, too.

02:36:27.000 They had their hats to get high on the table and stuff.

02:36:30.000 It was just more ruthless than today because life was more ruthless.

02:36:34.000 Life was nothing back then.

02:36:35.000 Life was slaves and so everybody owned everybody.

02:36:38.000 You know what someone said to me too about the Spartans?

02:36:41.000 He was saying if you were a Spartan and you were a 30 year old man people were suspicious of you.

02:36:46.000 Like how did you make it this far?

02:36:48.000 Like are you a coward?

02:36:49.000 Did you turn on people?

02:36:50.000 Like how did you survive to be 30?

02:36:52.000 Like they would be nervous of you.

02:36:54.000 The best ones, the ones that won their freedom and just kept fighting, they were all vegans and vegetarians.

02:37:01.000 Really?

02:37:02.000 They checked the marrow of their bones.

02:37:04.000 The amount of meat they had almost doesn't exist.

02:37:09.000 Oh, that's because they were feeding all the gladiators, they were feeding them like a gruel.

02:37:14.000 It was like an oatmeal.

02:37:16.000 Very small meat.

02:37:17.000 The meat didn't even matter.

02:37:19.000 But that wasn't for performance.

02:37:20.000 I don't know what, but those were the best.

02:37:22.000 Not all of them won their freedom, but the best ones had no meat.

02:37:25.000 Interesting.

02:37:26.000 I wonder what a normal person ate back then.

02:37:29.000 They were gluttons.

02:37:30.000 But I wonder how much they got of meat, how much they ate if they filled their bellies with grain and bread.

02:37:36.000 Only the rich ate with meat and stuff.

02:37:38.000 Really?

02:37:38.000 Very rarely the slaves ate with me, unless your master loved you, treated you special, you were the sellout or something, you know how that stuff is.

02:37:45.000 Right, right, right.

02:37:46.000 Yeah, I would imagine that's why people were so small back then too, right?

02:37:51.000 Yeah, but there were a lot of disease infested back then.

02:37:54.000 They were really sick back then.

02:37:55.000 Yeah.

02:37:57.000 I mean, there was no medicine.

02:37:59.000 So diseases must have just ran rampant through people.

02:38:02.000 You know, I talked to this guy, Dr. Peter Hotez.

02:38:06.000 He's an infectious disease expert.

02:38:08.000 And he told me that in jungle climates, like in the Amazon and places like anywhere you got a jungle climate, he goes, almost everybody has parasites.

02:38:16.000 Almost everybody.

02:38:17.000 Almost anything could kill you there, also.

02:38:20.000 Anything could kill you.

02:38:21.000 A little bug like this can kill you in Amazon.

02:38:24.000 Yeah.

02:38:25.000 But he's basically saying that it's almost unavoidable to get parasitic infections when you're in these tropical climates.

02:38:31.000 It's just a normal thing.

02:38:33.000 And you're dealing with a situation, like we talk about the cynical people, and what, 40,000 years, something like that, no one ever had a pap smear?

02:38:41.000 That's crazy.

02:38:42.000 Just think about it.

02:38:42.000 They've been there for 40,000 years, and no one got a pap smear.

02:38:45.000 And 40,000 years are also...

02:38:47.000 Just a specimen of your urine or something.

02:38:51.000 Never been there for 40 years.

02:38:52.000 40,000 years.

02:38:54.000 Just living.

02:38:55.000 40,000 years and never had a pap smear.

02:38:58.000 That's so long they've been there, they said.

02:39:00.000 Maybe 40,000 years?

02:39:01.000 How long have the Senegals been there?

02:39:04.000 Isn't it nice having a Jamie around?

02:39:06.000 Jamie is off the hook.

02:39:07.000 He's the best.

02:39:08.000 Listen, this is what it is.

02:39:11.000 It's a form of slavery, this stuff.

02:39:13.000 Hey, Jamie, go do that.

02:39:15.000 That?

02:39:15.000 Yeah, it's a form of not being in control.

02:39:17.000 You don't have to think, Jamie, do that.

02:39:20.000 He plays a very valid role.

02:39:22.000 It's important.

02:39:22.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:39:22.000 I can't be thinking.

02:39:24.000 Absolutely.

02:39:24.000 And he can do it with one hand.

02:39:26.000 That's the crazy thing about Jamie.

02:39:27.000 You don't realize he's Googling this shit with one hand.

02:39:29.000 But, you know, in slavery times, people have slaves to think for them.

02:39:34.000 People have slaves.

02:39:34.000 Some emperors...

02:39:37.000 They had slaves to remind them that they're human.

02:39:40.000 Remind me that I'm human, okay?

02:39:41.000 Wow.

02:39:43.000 You know, because sometimes people tell them they're gods and they're starting to believe in their slave job is to remind them that they're human.

02:39:48.000 Yeah, could you imagine being a king back then?

02:39:51.000 Being Alexander the Great.

02:39:53.000 Imagine being that.

02:39:54.000 Osiris the Great.

02:39:55.000 One of those guys.

02:39:56.000 Hannibal.

02:39:57.000 King of Kong.

02:39:58.000 Children of the Hun.

02:39:59.000 Those guys.

02:40:00.000 People would die for you.

02:40:01.000 Imagine being Henry VIII. Killing your ex-wives.

02:40:03.000 Just chop that bitch's head off.

02:40:05.000 See, diseases got him, too.

02:40:06.000 That's why he could have messed up.

02:40:07.000 Well, he was a fucking barbarian.

02:40:09.000 What a horrible person.

02:40:11.000 I mean, you can imagine you get divorced with a lady, you just cut her head off.

02:40:14.000 Hey, but listen, imagine what he's seen in his family before he was king.

02:40:18.000 Oh, yeah.

02:40:19.000 Imagine how many people in his family died before he could become king.

02:40:22.000 But what's crazy is that's like normal king behavior.

02:40:25.000 Like, when you talk about someone like Henry VIII or any ancient dictator that did horrible things to people, It's normal.

02:40:35.000 It's normal that these kings treated their people in terrible ways.

02:40:41.000 It was more common than for them to be good.

02:40:44.000 You know what a king is?

02:40:46.000 Napoleon said this to his mother because his mother was mad because he don't suck up enough.

02:40:50.000 He don't know how to suck up the kings, royal people and stuff.

02:40:52.000 And he said, Mom, there will always be kings, even if they go by different names.

02:40:56.000 And so a king could be Drake.

02:41:01.000 Right.

02:41:02.000 You know what I mean?

02:41:02.000 He is a rapper.

02:41:03.000 That's the name rapper.

02:41:04.000 That's just another name for king.

02:41:06.000 A successful rapper, that's another name for king.

02:41:08.000 Right.

02:41:09.000 You know, a successful guy, like Mike Tyson Fury, those kind of guys, that's another name for king.

02:41:14.000 Right.

02:41:15.000 You know?

02:41:15.000 Yeah, it is kind of, he's like the king of, yeah, he's a gypsy king.

02:41:19.000 Listen, what's that guy named?

02:41:19.000 Elon Musk.

02:41:20.000 You know what I mean?

02:41:21.000 Yeah, he's the techno king.

02:41:22.000 Entrepreneur, tech, but he's just another word for king.

02:41:24.000 Right.

02:41:25.000 He's a king.

02:41:25.000 He's still a king.

02:41:26.000 It's the same mindset, the same, like, position of power.

02:41:29.000 Yes.

02:41:30.000 But just not the same abuse.

02:41:32.000 This is what I found out.

02:41:33.000 You know, when you look at Henry the Ace and stuff, that's life.

02:41:37.000 That's you.

02:41:37.000 Listen, you.

02:41:39.000 You, Joe Rogan.

02:41:40.000 This is your crew.

02:41:43.000 They're around you most of the time.

02:41:45.000 You know most of their business, too.

02:41:47.000 Things go on.

02:41:48.000 So you have to find everything.

02:41:50.000 You say, you go to him, Jamie, what's going on today?

02:41:53.000 Well, he'll say, well, John came in late today.

02:41:55.000 Bill came over here.

02:41:56.000 We had a great time last night.

02:41:57.000 But he left early today.

02:41:59.000 And that's just what it is.

02:42:00.000 You want to know everybody, what they're doing.

02:42:02.000 You want to know everybody's around you.

02:42:04.000 They're taking care of your life.

02:42:05.000 So you want to know how their life is.

02:42:08.000 That's true, but over here, fortunately, everything runs so smooth, I don't have to have any of those conversations.

02:42:15.000 I know, I know.

02:42:15.000 But you're a king, and you're responsible for that.

02:42:19.000 You don't have to have the conversation, but that's on you.

02:42:22.000 I know what you're saying.

02:42:23.000 You choose not to.

02:42:24.000 Well, I choose to trust people.

02:42:25.000 Some kings don't.

02:42:26.000 Yeah, well, I've been a peasant for many years.

02:42:30.000 I understand what it's like to be real broke and poor.

02:42:34.000 I was thinking about that today while I was washing my car today.

02:42:37.000 I was thinking, man, I never want to work for a fucking car wash.

02:42:40.000 Yeah, but you've never been poor.

02:42:42.000 Poor is a frame of mind.

02:42:43.000 If you were poor, you'd never be where you are now.

02:42:45.000 Right.

02:42:46.000 I just didn't have any money, and I was just young.

02:42:48.000 But that never escapes you.

02:42:50.000 You always feel weird about people working for you, and it seems strange.

02:42:56.000 Because you've dealt with poverty before.

02:42:58.000 I don't care how much money you have, you can't escape poverty.

02:43:01.000 I think it was a gift.

02:43:02.000 I mean, it was horrible at the time, but being a child and being on welfare...

02:43:06.000 It's only good if you survive.

02:43:07.000 Right.

02:43:08.000 It's only good if you survive.

02:43:09.000 Only if you survive is good.

02:43:10.000 But that's why when those kind of subjects come up, I'm so adamant that we need some sort of a social net for people to help people if they're broke.

02:43:20.000 Because it's not a baby's fault that his mother doesn't have any money.

02:43:25.000 It's not the child's fault that he was born into the world.

02:43:29.000 You can't do that.

02:43:30.000 I think that too.

02:43:31.000 They have to deal with adversity.

02:43:32.000 We have to find out who they are.

02:43:34.000 They have to find out who they are.

02:43:36.000 But shouldn't there be at least a method for them to eat?

02:43:38.000 I had to find out who I am.

02:43:39.000 No, I had to find out how to eat myself.

02:43:42.000 I had to go to free lunches.

02:43:44.000 If I see some free lunches and it's too close, I take their free lunch.

02:43:49.000 That's just what it is.

02:43:51.000 It's about the survival of the fittest.

02:43:53.000 It's interesting because you're one of the few people that could get away with saying that.

02:43:57.000 Really?

02:43:57.000 Yeah, yeah, because you were the fittest, you know what I'm saying?

02:44:01.000 You know how a guy like me survive?

02:44:02.000 I don't survive by somebody giving me a job.

02:44:05.000 You take me to the most competitive system.

02:44:08.000 You just take me with it and just drop me there.

02:44:10.000 Right.

02:44:11.000 Just drop me in there with a competition.

02:44:14.000 Like a Bruce Lee movie.

02:44:15.000 Yeah, that's how I flourish.

02:44:16.000 I don't flourish by anybody giving me chances.

02:44:18.000 No, boom, put me in there.

02:44:20.000 Let me show you what I can do.

02:44:21.000 Boom, let me show you.

02:44:22.000 I break the world to my feet.

02:44:24.000 Yeah.

02:44:25.000 That's a special type of person.

02:44:27.000 I mean, there's not a whole lot of you.

02:44:29.000 No, they are, though.

02:44:30.000 They're more, they just don't know it.

02:44:31.000 They just haven't experienced it.

02:44:32.000 Yeah, I don't look at myself as somebody special.

02:44:35.000 These people just haven't been talking to the right person.

02:44:39.000 That right person hasn't ignited their fucking ego.

02:44:42.000 So they're just not far enough down the path of being that in whatever they do.

02:44:47.000 They haven't met the right mentor.

02:44:50.000 Yeah.

02:44:50.000 Because once you reach the right mentor, you don't want to be away from him.

02:44:53.000 You want to be in his presence always.

02:44:56.000 Isn't that interesting how much inspiration you get from a mentor?

02:44:59.000 I had that with martial arts instructors when I was a kid.

02:45:02.000 My appreciation and my love for them was unsurpassed.

02:45:09.000 My admiration for them was unsurpassed.

02:45:11.000 And for you to be a 13-year-old kid and just all the pieces aligned, not only did he have an amazing style that he could teach you in a style that was uniquely effective for you, the way you fought, but he could hypnotize you.

02:45:26.000 He affected my mind.

02:45:27.000 Yeah.

02:45:28.000 I didn't care if a guy was 6'9 or 300 pounds.

02:45:31.000 He affected my mind where I thought I was superior than other people and I was ordained by God to be this person.

02:45:38.000 He has had my mind screwed up and there's no way I can lose if I lose it because God is jealous this particular night.

02:45:43.000 It's just crazy!

02:45:46.000 God is jealous!

02:45:47.000 But Mike, here's what's crazy.

02:45:49.000 He was right.

02:45:50.000 He was right.

02:45:50.000 You could say that he affected your mind, but he didn't.

02:45:53.000 What he did is make you become that thing.

02:45:56.000 He made you become that perfect version of what you could be.

02:46:01.000 Everything that you could have done at 20 years of age to be that elite, you did.

02:46:06.000 You were as good as you could have been in that body.

02:46:09.000 So he maximized your potential.

02:46:13.000 He did it.

02:46:14.000 I mean, you could say he messed with your mind, but he really didn't.

02:46:16.000 It was all about intention.

02:46:18.000 Yes.

02:46:18.000 All about intention.

02:46:19.000 Fighting with intention.

02:46:21.000 Bad intention.

02:46:22.000 Everything was bad intention.

02:46:23.000 It's also so much technique, too.

02:46:25.000 So much movement.

02:46:26.000 And it has to do with a lot of the belief system.

02:46:30.000 A belief system is 90% of fighting.

02:46:34.000 To have a guy that understands psychology so much and get you when you were so young.

02:46:39.000 Get you at 12 years of age and start coaching you and mentoring you.

02:46:42.000 But at 12 I wanted it bad too.

02:46:44.000 I wanted it.

02:46:45.000 It wasn't like somebody was forcing me.

02:46:46.000 I said I want to be champ.

02:46:48.000 I want to be the boxing champ of the world.

02:46:50.000 I'm sure.

02:46:52.000 Teddy Atlas said that when he would bring you to Smokers when you were 13, kids wouldn't believe you were 13. No, listen.

02:46:59.000 Did he get mad?

02:47:00.000 Stop lying.

02:47:02.000 They're like, he's 16. There was a gentleman named John Connor.

02:47:04.000 He controlled the kid glove situation where you're 12, 13, 14. And I had to count.

02:47:10.000 He banned me from...

02:47:11.000 I'm from New York, but he said, no, you're from upstate.

02:47:13.000 You can't fight here.

02:47:14.000 But I'm born in Brooklyn because the kids wouldn't go into the tournament.

02:47:17.000 If I entered the tournament, nobody would enter, so they'd see no fight.

02:47:20.000 So I was banned from the tournament.

02:47:21.000 They would ban me from tournaments when I was a kid.

02:47:24.000 Listen, I was hitting these poor...

02:47:26.000 These guys, they used to fight.

02:47:27.000 I used to boxing professional fighters when I'm 13 and 12. These guys, I'm hitting arms.

02:47:32.000 The mother and father, they try to sue the system.

02:47:34.000 They say, he is not 12, 13 years old.

02:47:36.000 There's no way.

02:47:37.000 Listen, I'm 200 pounds.

02:47:39.000 Solid.

02:47:40.000 12, 13. I'm solid.

02:47:42.000 200 pounds.

02:47:43.000 That's incredible.

02:47:45.000 Oh my God, that is incredible.

02:47:47.000 That's incredible.

02:47:48.000 I've been fighting all my life.

02:47:51.000 I always had fights.

02:47:54.000 I had to be a fighter.

02:47:56.000 If it wasn't a street fighter, if it wasn't a professional fighter, I would have been a street fighter.

02:48:00.000 I always got into fights.

02:48:01.000 Who was the first person to ever show you how to throw a punch correctly?

02:48:05.000 This guy named Wise.

02:48:07.000 He just came out of prison.

02:48:08.000 He used to be an amateur boxer.

02:48:10.000 I used to smoke weed.

02:48:12.000 I used to smoke weed and cigarettes.

02:48:14.000 I would smoke cigarettes before weed, but I'm smoking and I'm watching them shadow box.

02:48:18.000 When I'm getting out, I'm smoking weed at around 8, and I'm watching this guy at 9. Yeah, I'm watching him shadow box.

02:48:23.000 Wow.

02:48:23.000 And I was impressed with that.

02:48:25.000 And one day, this guy killed my bird, and I was fighting this guy.

02:48:28.000 And I remember him skipping when he was shadow box.

02:48:31.000 And when I hit this guy, I started skipping.

02:48:33.000 Everybody started applauding.

02:48:35.000 Wow.

02:48:35.000 Blew my mind.

02:48:36.000 Even if I had a kid in the street, I started shit skipping.

02:48:39.000 And everybody's like, oh, shit, he's skipping!

02:48:41.000 Wow.

02:48:42.000 But I didn't know what I was doing.

02:48:43.000 I was just copying what I saw.

02:48:45.000 I didn't know I was skipping, but I was just copying.

02:48:48.000 I copied the guy wise, and he was skipping.

02:48:51.000 That was part of the fight.

02:48:52.000 I started skipping.

02:48:53.000 Everybody started laughing and applauding.

02:48:56.000 Wow.

02:48:57.000 Wow.

02:48:59.000 So when you watched him shadowbox, did you just copy it or did he show you?

02:49:03.000 Did he give you pointers?

02:49:04.000 No.

02:49:05.000 I have that mind.

02:49:06.000 Boom.

02:49:07.000 Once I see it, boom, I got it.

02:49:09.000 I pick it up quick.

02:49:11.000 Look at this weeb.

02:49:12.000 As soon as I pick it up, boom, I got interest.

02:49:14.000 No, I don't say, once I got interest in something, I fucking destroy it.

02:49:18.000 Right.

02:49:18.000 So it's always been like that.

02:49:19.000 I decimate it, yeah.

02:49:20.000 Yeah.

02:49:33.000 The movement is so interesting, Mike, because everybody knows that head movement is important.

02:49:39.000 Everybody knows that Canelo has real good head movement, but There's only really been one heavyweight that had the kind of head movement like you did.

02:49:46.000 Your head movement was fucking crazy.

02:49:48.000 Listen, that's when boxing's not fun when you're getting hit a lot.

02:49:51.000 You know, I saw these guys getting hit a lot.

02:49:53.000 And later in life, they don't...

02:49:55.000 They're not functional later in life.

02:49:58.000 I don't care how great they were.

02:49:59.000 You can't beat the accumulation of punches.

02:50:04.000 I don't care how great you are.

02:50:05.000 It shows up later in life.

02:50:08.000 And I had a teacher that was just...

02:50:11.000 Defense conscious.

02:50:12.000 Customer was so defense conscious.

02:50:14.000 He loved that his fighters were good looking and didn't have scars.

02:50:17.000 Matter of fact, he loved when his fighters looked like me.

02:50:19.000 If you'd ever saw me fight, you would never think I was a fighter.

02:50:23.000 Right.

02:50:23.000 But looking at my face.

02:50:25.000 No.

02:50:25.000 No, you don't have any gashes.

02:50:29.000 My main objective was to hit and not be hit.

02:50:33.000 Well, it was the style, that peekaboo style and the bobbin' and weavin', you were so hard to hit and you would punish people for mistakes.

02:50:40.000 So it wasn't just that you were slipping a punch, it's you were slipping a punch and a left hook from hell is coming right behind it.

02:50:47.000 And there was so much movement and speed.

02:50:50.000 It's like we've seen a bunch of different styles of heavyweights, but what's crazy is from your rise to today, there's no one really who fights in your style, which is kind of interesting, right?

02:51:00.000 I don't know.

02:51:01.000 I just wanted to be somebody, and I wanted the greatest to know my name.

02:51:04.000 I want a guy like Ali, Durant to know who I was.

02:51:07.000 You did that, my friend.

02:51:09.000 You did that.

02:51:09.000 The whole world knows your name.

02:51:11.000 But what's interesting is that, like, your style was so effective, but there's not a heavyweight out there that fights like you, which is interesting because...

02:51:19.000 Because that's a complicated style when you really think about it because it's more like karate than boxing.

02:51:24.000 Because boxing, you're loose.

02:51:25.000 In karate, you're...

02:51:29.000 That's like karate.

02:51:32.000 Your style was so terrifying.

02:51:34.000 Because instead of a Larry Holmes style where you're behind a strong jab and you're boxing...

02:51:38.000 See, that wasn't me.

02:51:39.000 I'm short.

02:51:41.000 My jab is only good when I'm aggressive.

02:51:43.000 It's not good when I'm out here.

02:51:44.000 I think when I'm coming forward.

02:51:46.000 There was so many consequences.

02:51:48.000 That was the thing about your fights.

02:51:49.000 It's like every mistake that anybody made had grave consequences.

02:51:52.000 Listen, the whole thing is you have to take risks, too.

02:51:55.000 In order for fights to be exciting, people have to take risks.

02:51:59.000 If you're watching two guys fight, they're not taking risks.

02:52:02.000 They're not fighting.

02:52:03.000 Fighting is about taking risks.

02:52:05.000 Exactly.

02:52:06.000 Risking losing and getting hit.

02:52:08.000 That's why the Tommy Hearns-Marvin Hagler fight was so great.

02:52:11.000 Because they both threw caution to the wind.

02:52:14.000 Absolutely.

02:52:14.000 But the fact that they both were getting hit.

02:52:17.000 They were getting hit.

02:52:17.000 That's what made it exciting.

02:52:19.000 But fighting's good when you're not getting hit and you're hitting the guy.

02:52:21.000 Right.

02:52:22.000 That's fighting.

02:52:24.000 What's fascinating to me is how effective you were.

02:52:27.000 There's a part of the people forget how effective you were with your head movement.

02:52:31.000 It was a big part of your style.

02:52:32.000 You were so hard to hit, and when people were swinging at you, the counters were so dangerous.

02:52:39.000 I just wanted to be the best.

02:52:41.000 That's just all I wanted to be.

02:52:43.000 I'm the kind of guy...

02:52:44.000 I'd rather fucking win and get no fucking money.

02:52:51.000 Really?

02:52:52.000 Because the feeling of winning is so much better.

02:52:55.000 They're losing their money.

02:52:56.000 Fuck.

02:52:57.000 Hate losing.

02:52:58.000 Fuck.

02:52:59.000 Of course.

02:53:04.000 When you really stop and think about what you were able to accomplish, it's pretty wild, man, because you changed boxing in a lot of ways.

02:53:11.000 You made the heavyweight division exciting again.

02:53:13.000 There was a long lull where people didn't appreciate Larry Holmes because he came after Ali.

02:53:19.000 He's like the most underappreciated heavyweight of all time.

02:53:21.000 What a fighter.

02:53:22.000 What a fighter.

02:53:22.000 Fuck.

02:53:23.000 What a fighter.

02:53:24.000 What a fighter.

02:53:25.000 And he had the balls to come and fight you.

02:53:27.000 No, he had balls in his prime.

02:53:30.000 He had balls.

02:53:31.000 He was nothing but balls.

02:53:33.000 He was amazing.

02:53:33.000 Goddamn.

02:53:34.000 When, you know, you watch some of his fights, like Jerry Cooney knockout.

02:53:38.000 Goddamn, he was good.

02:53:39.000 No.

02:53:40.000 After he fought me, he almost beat a van to hold us in.

02:53:45.000 Oliver McCall.

02:53:46.000 1.2 points from beating him.

02:53:48.000 I said, God damn!

02:53:49.000 I was so happy that I fought him his first fight.

02:53:52.000 It would have been different after he had 10 or 15 other fights now, because he was good after the fight.

02:53:57.000 He did have a lot of good fights after that.

02:53:59.000 You know what's interesting, Mikey said, as long as you were in jail, he'd keep fighting.

02:54:05.000 That's what he said, man.

02:54:07.000 He's like, as long as Mikey's not around, I'll keep fighting.

02:54:11.000 But fuck that.

02:54:13.000 I really admire him and look up to him so much.

02:54:16.000 My God, his jab.

02:54:17.000 What?

02:54:18.000 His nerve.

02:54:19.000 Everything.

02:54:20.000 Everything.

02:54:21.000 His jab was a work of art.

02:54:22.000 Larry Holmes had one of the greatest jabs ever.

02:54:24.000 Most of his fights was exciting, too.

02:54:25.000 Yeah.

02:54:26.000 No, he was totally underappreciated because he came.

02:54:29.000 Everybody was just so sad that he beat up Ali.

02:54:32.000 Yeah.

02:54:32.000 Ali had the effect on people like unbelievable.

02:54:35.000 Everybody loved Ali, so it was so hard to accept Larry Holmes after he beat up Ali in front of everybody.

02:54:41.000 That's all it was.

02:54:42.000 It was just the love of Ali.

02:54:43.000 It's too bad because if Ali didn't exist or if Larry Holmes didn't have to beat him to become a champion, if Ali had just retired and Larry Holmes came and fought somebody else and became the champ, people would appreciate how good he was.

02:54:55.000 It wasn't meant to be.

02:54:56.000 It wasn't written.

02:54:56.000 Yeah.

02:54:57.000 It wasn't written.

02:54:58.000 But damn, later in his life, he was in his 40s, he was having great boxing matches.

02:55:02.000 Kicking his ass.

02:55:03.000 Looking good.

02:55:03.000 Oh man, kicking, talking shit.

02:55:05.000 Talking shit.

02:55:06.000 I guess he was like, fuck it, I can still do it.

02:55:10.000 He was an athlete, huh?

02:55:12.000 Oh my God, yeah.

02:55:13.000 Never got credit for that.

02:55:15.000 He's such an athlete.

02:55:17.000 When you look at the heavyweight division today, it's such a different landscape than back in your day.

02:55:24.000 It could be a greater one, though.

02:55:26.000 There's a lot of talent there that should be fighting one another.

02:55:29.000 It's amazing.

02:55:30.000 They just keep fighting each other over and over.

02:55:32.000 All the top five guys just keep fighting each other.

02:55:35.000 That's what it's about, just being active.

02:55:38.000 They're not active enough.

02:55:39.000 People don't see them enough.

02:55:40.000 They hear about them, but they don't Is it just that it's hard to get these fights scheduled?

02:55:45.000 Are they just negotiating hard?

02:55:48.000 Listen, if I don't fight him, I'm not fighting.

02:55:51.000 I'm not fighting nobody.

02:55:52.000 This is who I want to fight.

02:55:53.000 If I don't fight him, I'm not fighting nobody.

02:55:54.000 You can take my belts.

02:55:56.000 So it has to come to that.

02:55:58.000 I want to fight him.

02:55:59.000 If I don't fight him, I'm not fighting nobody.

02:56:01.000 That's what he has to say.

02:56:03.000 I don't know, but most people believe if they lose, they're over.

02:56:08.000 They don't know it just began.

02:56:10.000 Well, some guys have been able to come back from rough losses and still gain the public's attention.

02:56:19.000 Deontay is a perfect example of that.

02:56:20.000 It's all about giving it your breath.

02:56:23.000 The reason why people don't appreciate you is because you haven't gave your breath.

02:56:26.000 This is what they look at.

02:56:27.000 This is how Cuss would look at it.

02:56:29.000 You have made all this money, you got all this fame, and this is how much you're going to give, Carl.

02:56:34.000 You're going to...

02:56:35.000 You run only five miles.

02:56:37.000 You run four miles.

02:56:38.000 He gave you all his fame.

02:56:39.000 Everybody know you're only going to give him five fucking miles, Mike.

02:56:41.000 Right, right.

02:56:42.000 Because of running that kind of gear on me.

02:56:44.000 You know, he'd say, well, you know, God gave you all this.

02:56:47.000 All this stuff he gave you, you can't give him five rounds, six rounds, eight rounds.

02:56:53.000 You have to look at it from that perspective.

02:56:55.000 With all the talent you have and you just can't give it an extra round, you don't got another round in your mind, give me a break, okay?

02:57:01.000 You got 20 extra rounds in you.

02:57:02.000 It's all in your mind.

02:57:04.000 Wow.

02:57:06.000 How important is that to hear, too?

02:57:08.000 Well, you need, for a guy like me, with low self-esteem and stuff like that, I need to hear that I'm God.

02:57:14.000 Yeah.

02:57:15.000 You know, if I don't hear that, I think that I'm not going to no ring.

02:57:18.000 You ain't going to see me in no fight.

02:57:20.000 Was the first time beating people in matches, as an amateur, was that the first times where you felt really good about accomplishments?

02:57:31.000 Joe, I'm going to tell you something.

02:57:34.000 And Teddy Atlas will tell you this.

02:57:35.000 My first fight ever, I knocked the guy out and I stepped on him like this.

02:57:40.000 Oh my god.

02:57:41.000 That's Teddy Atlas.

02:57:42.000 I was just so passionate about fighting.

02:57:44.000 Boom, knocked him out.

02:57:45.000 I stepped on him like this.

02:57:47.000 I'm on top of him.

02:57:48.000 Oh my god.

02:57:49.000 Teddy said, what the fuck?

02:57:51.000 Listen, I'm really into that gangster warrior mentality, savage stuff.

02:57:55.000 How old were you?

02:57:56.000 I'm 13 or 14. I'm 14. I knocked him out.

02:58:00.000 I stepped on top.

02:58:01.000 I'm on top of him.

02:58:02.000 I got my feet on him.

02:58:03.000 I'm like, Teddy comes.

02:58:04.000 What the hell are you doing?

02:58:07.000 Listen, I'm into that gang, that warrior mentality.

02:58:10.000 I mean, since I was a kid, I'm stepping on people in the ring.

02:58:12.000 Wow.

02:58:13.000 And I don't talk to people when I'm in the ring.

02:58:15.000 People be saying, hey, you look good the last fight.

02:58:17.000 I just don't talk to them.

02:58:19.000 Wow.

02:58:19.000 People come up to me, great fight last night.

02:58:22.000 I just never talked to nobody.

02:58:23.000 People say, he's a weird asshole.

02:58:25.000 No one likes me because I didn't talk to anybody.

02:58:27.000 Before a fight, people say, great fight last night.

02:58:31.000 Just look at him, because this is what happened to me.

02:58:33.000 One day a guy came up to me and said, great fight last night.

02:58:36.000 You look good.

02:58:36.000 I said, thank you very much, sir.

02:58:38.000 And then Cus went like this.

02:58:40.000 You know him?

02:58:41.000 I said, no, it was just a nice guy.

02:58:43.000 He was a nice guy.

02:58:44.000 He came over here and said, congratulations for my fight last night.

02:58:46.000 He said, what do you mean, nice guy?

02:58:48.000 Like, you like him?

02:58:49.000 He's handsome or cute?

02:58:50.000 What do you mean, nice guy?

02:58:51.000 Explain nice guy to me.

02:58:53.000 And then my whole attitude changed.

02:58:55.000 I don't know.

02:58:56.000 He said, hi, Cus.

02:58:57.000 I'm sorry.

02:58:58.000 And then Cus goes to the guy, hey, don't ever talk to my fighter again.

02:59:00.000 Do you hear what I'm saying?

02:59:01.000 Do you listen to me?

02:59:02.000 Don't ever talk to my fighter again!

02:59:04.000 Whoa.

02:59:04.000 He was paranoid because before he had fighters, people stole his fighters.

02:59:08.000 Oh.

02:59:09.000 So he thought that blew his mind, so he think all his fighters are going to leave him.

02:59:13.000 Interesting.

02:59:15.000 He had Rocky Rossiano.

02:59:17.000 Rocky Rossiano left him.

02:59:18.000 That blew his mind.

02:59:19.000 He thought everybody was going to steal his fighters.

02:59:21.000 He just blew his mind about people stealing his fighters.

02:59:24.000 That makes sense.

02:59:25.000 That probably went on a lot.

02:59:27.000 Oh, yeah.

02:59:27.000 Stealing his fighters.

02:59:32.000 When you see the heavyweight division today, the Usyk versus Joshua match, that's a very interesting fight to me.

02:59:38.000 That's very interesting.

02:59:39.000 That Usyk guy is phenomenal.

02:59:41.000 Listen, Tyson's going to have to wear him down.

02:59:44.000 He can't, because the guy is moving, moving, and all that stuff.

02:59:47.000 Tyson is going to have to just wear him down.

02:59:49.000 He's not going to box this guy.

02:59:50.000 He's just going to have to beat him down.

02:59:52.000 Yeah, Joshua's fighting Usyk next.

02:59:54.000 And Tyson is fighting Dillian White.

02:59:57.000 No, I think, I think, um...

02:59:59.000 I think they've settled that, right?

03:00:00.000 I think Dante Wilder should fight Uzzik.

03:00:06.000 That would be a great fight.

03:00:08.000 That's because Dante Wilder, he's going to be aggressive trying to knock him out.

03:00:12.000 Listen, Deontay Wilder can knock anybody out.

03:00:15.000 His power is ridiculous.

03:00:17.000 When he knocked out Ortiz, that was crazy.

03:00:21.000 But listen...

03:00:24.000 Having a hard punch is like having a nuclear war, but it don't serve no military value if it doesn't land on its target.

03:00:32.000 Uzek is very hard to hit.

03:00:33.000 Very hard to hit.

03:00:34.000 Very hard to hit.

03:00:35.000 Joshua did catch him a couple times, though.

03:00:36.000 I know, but Joshua...

03:00:37.000 Joshua's elite.

03:00:39.000 Uzek is an elite amateur boxer.

03:00:41.000 He has that amateur boxer stuff, mess guys like Joshua up, because there's too much movement, singing, and all that stuff.

03:00:46.000 And he's not really an amateur.

03:00:48.000 He just...

03:00:50.000 He got so much.

03:00:50.000 He could do so much.

03:00:51.000 That's why he's never a lost soul.

03:00:54.000 He could learn so much.

03:00:55.000 He's still learning.

03:00:56.000 That's why he's dangerous, Josh, because he's still fucking learning.

03:00:59.000 Well, he definitely made an adjustment after the Andy Ruiz fight, right?

03:01:02.000 He lost to Ruiz the first fight, come back, won a clear unanimous decision in the second fight.

03:01:07.000 With other gentlemen, too.

03:01:10.000 Andy Ruiz.

03:01:11.000 Yeah, yeah, Andy Ruiz.

03:01:13.000 Yeah, I think I'm fascinated to see how that fight goes down.

03:01:16.000 Is that delayed because of the war?

03:01:19.000 Yeah, I think it was.

03:01:21.000 See, Joshua has to know how to throw more points.

03:01:23.000 Boom, boom, boom.

03:01:24.000 Jabba's got to be like a...

03:01:25.000 He can't get things.

03:01:26.000 Jabba's got to constantly be out there and he's got to turn it into something.

03:01:29.000 That's the thing about Usyk having...

03:01:31.000 He used to be a cruiserweight.

03:01:32.000 He's got a lot of endurance.

03:01:34.000 He doesn't move like a big guy.

03:01:37.000 He moves like a smaller guy.

03:01:38.000 But, um...

03:01:40.000 Joshua needs to pick up the pace a little, not much.

03:01:45.000 He has got so much damn potential.

03:01:53.000 He definitely does.

03:01:54.000 But he comes back from every fight that he's had better.

03:01:58.000 One of the most impressive ones was he knocked out Klitschko.

03:02:02.000 Yeah, Klitschko's seen better days though.

03:02:06.000 He fought great that night.

03:02:07.000 True.

03:02:07.000 But Klitschko dropped him first and he came back and stopped him.

03:02:11.000 That was a wild fight.

03:02:13.000 That was a wild fight.

03:02:15.000 Yeah, it's a great heavyweight time right now.

03:02:18.000 Joshua's no walkover.

03:02:20.000 It's just that for some reason I don't know.

03:02:25.000 We expect a lot from Joshua for some reason.

03:02:28.000 I guess maybe because English people are so behind him, we got caught up in the bandwagon too, but Americans expect a lot out of Joshua for some reason.

03:02:36.000 Well, he's an Adonis.

03:02:38.000 He's like a perfect specimen.

03:02:40.000 Oh, after boxing, he's going to have a beautiful life after boxing because he's beautiful.

03:02:44.000 He's beautiful.

03:02:45.000 But his power is stunning.

03:02:47.000 I mean, he has crazy power.

03:02:48.000 And he's just an elite athlete.

03:02:51.000 The Tyson Fury fight, to me, that's a real interesting one.

03:02:55.000 Those two guys, that's a real interesting fight to me.

03:02:58.000 You know, because Tyson Fury is so unusual.

03:03:01.000 He's so tall and long.

03:03:03.000 And his movement, I mean, he's got such a nice jab.

03:03:08.000 And he's so good at, like, using distance and clinching.

03:03:11.000 Did Jeff...

03:03:13.000 It's just weird to take him serious because he doesn't take the fighting seriously.

03:03:19.000 He's laughing at people.

03:03:20.000 He's licking their blood.

03:03:21.000 What's wrong with this guy, man?

03:03:23.000 But Mike, doesn't it take a certain amount of crazy to be the best?

03:03:27.000 You got to totally be out of your mind.

03:03:29.000 And that's what he is, right?

03:03:30.000 He's out of his fucking mind.

03:03:31.000 He's totally out of your mind.

03:03:32.000 Listen, nobody picked this up.

03:03:35.000 What fighter comes in the ring with Patsy Cline crazy unless he's losing?

03:03:42.000 He's trying to tell you I'm losing my mind.

03:03:44.000 He's trying to let the people know I'm fucking losing my mind.

03:03:47.000 I'm crazy.

03:03:48.000 This heavyweight championship's not the way I thought it was.

03:03:51.000 This is insanity.

03:03:52.000 The heavyweight champ is insanity, man.

03:03:55.000 It's called the crown of thorns, baby.

03:03:58.000 Everybody that wore that title got a story to tell.

03:04:02.000 They have a story to tell, baby.

03:04:04.000 He's in the middle of his story right now.

03:04:07.000 Those Wilder fights are incredible.

03:04:08.000 You know, it's just weird how...

03:04:13.000 You know, if certain people were living in biblical times, they would be prophets.

03:04:18.000 Like, if he was in biblical times, he would be a prophet and stuff.

03:04:21.000 They couldn't explain that.

03:04:23.000 Why is he so successful in this particular?

03:04:26.000 They can't explain that stuff.

03:04:27.000 Why is he exceptional?

03:04:28.000 Yeah.

03:04:29.000 They couldn't explain Goliath or Samson.

03:04:33.000 They just couldn't understand these guys.

03:04:35.000 Listen, David's known for the father of Israel.

03:04:38.000 He created Israel, right?

03:04:41.000 What's the only thing you know David for?

03:04:42.000 What is he known for?

03:04:43.000 He created the whole nation, but what is he known for?

03:04:46.000 Killing Goliath.

03:04:47.000 Yes.

03:04:48.000 He's done so many great things, but the only thing he's known for, if you're not a scholar really, the only thing you know David for is killing Goliath.

03:04:55.000 A fight.

03:04:56.000 Yeah.

03:04:57.000 He's known for a fight.

03:04:59.000 He created a whole nation, but he's known for a fight.

03:05:04.000 Yeah, he killed a big guy with a rock.

03:05:06.000 Yeah, slingshot and then he chopped his head off.

03:05:09.000 Yeah, there's always throughout history there's been the best fighter and they were one of the most revered people in society.

03:05:18.000 To today too.

03:05:20.000 To today.

03:05:20.000 There's a thing about a heavyweight title fight where you know, whether it's in MMA or it's in boxing, you know that is the elite of the elite as far as fighting.

03:05:30.000 It's as good as people are alive today in 2020. Listen, someone told me that you could work in Tesla, the head corporation in Tesla.

03:05:38.000 All your high-tech geeks, right?

03:05:41.000 If a fight goes down in the lobby, the whole everybody's left their room, they're watching the fight.

03:05:46.000 It's just, that's what fight does.

03:05:47.000 The animal instincts in us.

03:05:49.000 Somebody never had a fight in their life.

03:05:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:05:52.000 Never had a fight.

03:05:53.000 Yeah, get him, get him.

03:05:55.000 Especially if you're watching two people argue and then it escalates and then you know the fists are going to fly.

03:06:00.000 Isn't it, how funny is it to you to watch people who have no idea how to fight and they're willing to get into fights?

03:06:05.000 Isn't that crazy?

03:06:07.000 That's just the lack of self-control.

03:06:11.000 Because you have no idea how much pain you're going to be in in a few minutes.

03:06:15.000 You have no idea until that pain happens to really start to increase, and you just say, what the hell happened?

03:06:23.000 When you see those videos of people who don't know how to fight, and they pick a fight with someone who's a trained fighter, and they get knocked out, and you realize what a horrible mistake it was for that person to do that?

03:06:32.000 No, the person that hurt him should have realized during the situation, this guy's not in my league.

03:06:38.000 Well, not all the time you can do that, but certain times you see this guy, he's not in my league, don't hurt him.

03:06:43.000 Unless your ego's flaring up and you want to stop this guy in front of a lot of people.

03:06:47.000 A lot of guys do want to stop a guy.

03:06:49.000 I mean, someone's trying to hurt you.

03:06:50.000 Alright, but listen.

03:06:51.000 It's hard to pull back.

03:06:53.000 Listen, I'm...

03:06:54.000 That's just your intent.

03:06:55.000 You believe he's trying to hurt you.

03:06:56.000 Maybe he's really not, and you kill him by accident.

03:06:59.000 That happened so many times.

03:07:00.000 That could happen, too.

03:07:01.000 He could be bluffing.

03:07:02.000 That happens.

03:07:03.000 It does happen.

03:07:04.000 Sometimes you don't even plan to kill him.

03:07:05.000 You just push him or hit him and hit something.

03:07:07.000 He had an aneurysm, and you didn't know it.

03:07:10.000 He didn't know he had an aneurysm.

03:07:11.000 He's dead, and you've got to do that time.

03:07:13.000 A friend of mine was working as a bouncer in Long Island, and his buddy at the bar accidentally killed a guy.

03:07:19.000 That same exact thing, what you're saying.

03:07:21.000 The guy started to fight with him.

03:07:22.000 He hit the guy.

03:07:23.000 The guy went unconscious, fell back, hit his head, died.

03:07:26.000 I was locked up with a guy.

03:07:29.000 He never hit nobody in his life, but this guy owed the money.

03:07:32.000 He said, so he shot the guy in the foot.

03:07:34.000 The guy died.

03:07:37.000 You know, I never had a fight in my life.

03:07:39.000 I shot the guy in the foot because you got to shoot these guys because they won't pay you.

03:07:42.000 So I shot this guy and he died.

03:07:43.000 I've been there for shooting the guy in the foot and he died.

03:07:45.000 Oh my God, he died from a foot shot.

03:07:50.000 Oh no.

03:07:51.000 I don't know, I think it's probably what happened.

03:07:53.000 That's what I'm in here for.

03:07:56.000 Jesus Christ.

03:07:59.000 When you're in places like that, you realize that a lot of people don't have a lot of emotional control over themselves.

03:08:06.000 A lot of people are in there for love or money or something.

03:08:09.000 Do you believe that?

03:08:11.000 In prison for love, will you believe that?

03:08:13.000 A lot of people are in prison for love, crimes of passion.

03:08:17.000 Do you think that we could avoid a lot of that if people were introduced to psychedelics?

03:08:23.000 Yes.

03:08:26.000 Yes.

03:08:26.000 I think so too.

03:08:27.000 Listen, you know what I realized?

03:08:31.000 That when I took mushrooms sometimes, that's why I panic sometimes.

03:08:35.000 And I run upstairs to my wife and say, baby, I took mushrooms.

03:08:37.000 I'm sorry.

03:08:37.000 I know you told me not to take them, but I took them and I can't take it right now.

03:08:40.000 It's fucking with my head right now.

03:08:41.000 I'm so sorry, baby.

03:08:42.000 Please, please, just hold me right now, baby, please.

03:08:44.000 Oh, God, I'm tired.

03:08:45.000 Oh, God, baby, please.

03:08:47.000 Oh, no, no, no, no.

03:08:52.000 I told you not to use that no more!

03:08:54.000 Stop using the mushroom!

03:08:56.000 You're the shroomy guy, stop!

03:08:59.000 Mushrooms can take you on a dark journey.

03:09:01.000 Woo!

03:09:04.000 Mushrooms, sometimes, it feels like it's trying to tell you something.

03:09:08.000 Oh, absolutely.

03:09:10.000 Yeah.

03:09:11.000 Absolutely, and you're scared to listen.

03:09:13.000 Yeah.

03:09:14.000 It seems sometimes...

03:09:17.000 It seems like it's apocalyptic, you know?

03:09:22.000 You know, I understand that because I could be on mushrooms and sometimes really believe that I'm gone and everybody here is here for my enjoyment.

03:09:31.000 I can't really think of mushrooms.

03:09:33.000 Everybody's just here for me to make me happy, to make me alert.

03:09:37.000 Yeah, I can believe that.

03:09:40.000 You feel like you're the only person in the world when you're on a really good strain of mushrooms.

03:09:46.000 Yeah.

03:09:47.000 You're so far divorced from regular thinking, you're in like a dreamland.

03:09:53.000 It's hard to really articulate it to somebody, how you feel when you're under that state.

03:10:00.000 It's real hard.

03:10:01.000 They're never going to understand it unless they do it.

03:10:03.000 I don't even think everybody should do it.

03:10:05.000 No, it's not.

03:10:06.000 Listen, when you're on some good shows, you don't want no sex, you don't want nothing, you just want to find something.

03:10:12.000 You just don't want nothing.

03:10:14.000 I wish there was a way that people, that grown adults, could experience it in a professional setting.

03:10:18.000 So if you have professional people that know how to dose people correctly...

03:10:23.000 Fear, fear, fear is stronger than anything.

03:10:25.000 I know, it is.

03:10:26.000 But what I think is if they did allow that, it could make a better world.

03:10:32.000 There's a legitimate tool to make a better world, and people look at it and dismiss it like it's silly.

03:10:38.000 People don't want people to know how they really are.

03:10:39.000 So if they took Shroom, they would expose who they really are.

03:10:43.000 And I think people living in this world never exposing themselves and uncomfortable to the day they die.

03:10:50.000 I think that's true for sure.

03:10:52.000 But I also think there's a lot of people that are just ignorant to it.

03:10:56.000 They don't know what it is.

03:10:57.000 They've been sold that it's, like, bad for you and that, you know, you're taking drugs, you know, you might have a hallucination and lose your fucking mind and waste your time doing this.

03:11:08.000 If you tell me, hey, man, that fucking white cobra was a Bad motherfucker laughing.

03:11:12.000 I said, let me try it out.

03:11:13.000 Right.

03:11:13.000 Of course.

03:11:14.000 That's just me.

03:11:15.000 Of course.

03:11:15.000 But you've had a lot of experiences.

03:11:17.000 I think for some people, though, the idea of doing a psychedelic drug to them sounds like a stupid thing to do.

03:11:22.000 Like, why would you want to hallucinate?

03:11:24.000 Why would you want to lose you?

03:11:25.000 They think it's something negative.

03:11:27.000 Because you think of a drug that's that powerful, you think of it as having a negative consequence.

03:11:32.000 But I think it's probably just really effective and it should be managed.

03:11:36.000 I agree.

03:11:37.000 They should figure out what is the dose if you weigh 100 pounds?

03:11:40.000 What is the dose if you weigh 150 pounds?

03:11:42.000 Is there a way to do this in a clinical setting where people can go and experience something that's not going to kill them?

03:11:48.000 If I start now, my resistance is probably low, but I have a high resistance.

03:11:54.000 I've heard.

03:11:56.000 Once you start yawning, right?

03:12:00.000 It's over.

03:12:02.000 I'm yawning, but mmm, I got that little bit mmm.

03:12:06.000 Those mushroom yawns are weird.

03:12:09.000 Mushroom yawns are weird because it's not like you're tired.

03:12:11.000 It's just like...

03:12:12.000 Yeah, so you didn't know what happened.

03:12:15.000 That's the mushroom yawn.

03:12:17.000 They say, yeah, that's the shrooms you're yawning, Mike.

03:12:19.000 The shrooms help you yawning.

03:12:20.000 Yeah, shrooms are a very strange thing because it's a life form.

03:12:24.000 Whatever it is, it's some sort of a weird life form that breathes oxygen.

03:12:29.000 Mushrooms breathe oxygen like we do.

03:12:31.000 Because we are mushrooms.

03:12:32.000 We're fungus.

03:12:35.000 We're a biosystem, whatever the fuck we are.

03:12:37.000 We're filled with all kinds of bio-organisms and skin.

03:12:42.000 The dirt and the mud.

03:12:44.000 Everything you eat, your gut biome, everything.

03:12:46.000 It's all just a bunch of bacteria.

03:12:48.000 Diamonds, gold, everything the world's made of.

03:12:50.000 We're made out of those minerals.

03:12:53.000 We're made out of a fucking star exploding.

03:12:55.000 It takes a star to blow up to make us.

03:12:59.000 And we're made out of diamonds, minerals, and all that stuff.

03:13:03.000 Is that real?

03:13:03.000 We're made out of diamonds and minerals?

03:13:05.000 I guess we're made out of all the same things.

03:13:07.000 From the Earth.

03:13:08.000 From carbon.

03:13:09.000 We're a carbon-based life form, right?

03:13:13.000 Hey, does it rain diamonds and Neptune and Jupiter?

03:13:18.000 Check that out.

03:13:19.000 There's some place like that does, right?

03:13:21.000 No, there is.

03:13:22.000 For real.

03:13:23.000 No, that's real.

03:13:23.000 They're sending these little things to these planets sucking up stuff and coming back.

03:13:26.000 I think they found a place that they think does that.

03:13:28.000 No, they rain diamonds.

03:13:29.000 Yeah.

03:13:29.000 There's a place that they think it rains diamonds.

03:13:31.000 Two places, right?

03:13:32.000 Yeah.

03:13:33.000 I think that was real.

03:13:35.000 On Neptune, it's raining diamonds.

03:13:36.000 Holy shit.

03:13:38.000 Icy gems may be forming deep inside Neptune and Uranus.

03:13:41.000 Yeah, those are the two places.

03:13:42.000 I found that out like 10 years ago.

03:13:44.000 How wild is that?

03:13:45.000 No, listen, as I was saying before, we don't know who the hell we are.

03:13:49.000 So if it's rain, we're made out of rain, then we're made out of diamonds too.

03:13:53.000 We're made out of gold.

03:13:54.000 No, really.

03:13:54.000 Yeah, sure.

03:13:55.000 We're made out of platinum on all of our existence.

03:13:57.000 Right.

03:13:57.000 But we need a lot of that.

03:13:59.000 You need iron in your body.

03:14:00.000 You have to have iron.

03:14:02.000 Your body needs actual iron.

03:14:04.000 It's this way of dying.

03:14:06.000 I was just looking at it.

03:14:07.000 I have a 13-year-old daughter that's just a genius.

03:14:10.000 And it's a form of dying where you prepare for dying and you turn into the fungus process.

03:14:18.000 And you prepare for dying.

03:14:20.000 You stop eating.

03:14:22.000 And your body slows down.

03:14:24.000 And the fungus starts to process before you even start dying.

03:14:29.000 Yeah, there's a monk that was doing that, right?

03:14:32.000 That was the Buddha.

03:14:33.000 That's what Buddha was doing.

03:14:35.000 Buddha's pretty interesting.

03:14:36.000 Buddha believed that suffering was self-suffering, and God didn't create us to suffer, and that's what he lived for, to stop self-suffering.

03:14:45.000 I was looking at this story a month ago, and I thought that was pretty interesting.

03:14:49.000 I never understood that he was very wealthy, and he left all of that, and his wife and his children stopped suffering, self-suffering.

03:14:56.000 Really?

03:14:57.000 Yeah.

03:14:58.000 Yeah.

03:15:00.000 Those guys, man, the idea of starving yourself and turning yourself into a mummy, that wasn't uncommon.

03:15:06.000 They would do that.

03:15:07.000 That was a real thing they did.

03:15:09.000 There was one guy that got turned into a statue.

03:15:11.000 Did you ever see that?

03:15:12.000 No.

03:15:13.000 They studied the statue of a monk that was in a lotus position, and then they did an x-ray of it, and they found out there's a skeleton inside the statue.

03:15:21.000 So they made a statue out of this monk who they think probably...

03:15:27.000 Oh, look at this.

03:15:28.000 Mummified monk in Mongolia, not dead, said Buddhist.

03:15:30.000 Oh, this is a different one.

03:15:32.000 They say he's not dead.

03:15:34.000 They're like, hang on.

03:15:35.000 Don't call it yet.

03:15:36.000 He's going to make a comeback.

03:15:40.000 Oh, they said he's in a deep meditative trance and not dead.

03:15:46.000 Forensic examinations are underway on the remains...

03:15:49.000 Shoging is Kong's tomb.

03:15:53.000 Do you think they know where it is?

03:15:54.000 It's under a mountain, they believe.

03:15:56.000 You think so?

03:15:56.000 Just check it out.

03:15:57.000 Oh, look at this guy.

03:15:58.000 Oh my god.

03:15:59.000 Worship for eternity.

03:16:01.000 Oh, that's what you were talking about, huh?

03:16:02.000 Yeah.

03:16:05.000 Remember, they used to put themselves on fire and everything.

03:16:08.000 Well, that was during the Vietnam War.

03:16:10.000 One monk did that to protest.

03:16:12.000 He covered himself in gasoline and lit himself on fire.

03:16:15.000 That's that Rage Against the Machine album, the cover.

03:16:17.000 Remember that?

03:16:19.000 I think Def got a bad rap.

03:16:22.000 Death has a bad rap.

03:16:23.000 Yeah, I think we should be afraid of death, but we shouldn't cling to life.

03:16:27.000 You know, we should be appreciative of the time that we had here that was successful and the way that we evolved and just call it a day.

03:16:37.000 And experience as much fun and as much happiness as you can while you're here.

03:16:43.000 In order to enjoy happiness, there must be sadness.

03:16:46.000 You gotta suffer.

03:16:47.000 Yeah.

03:16:48.000 So let's stop just to always remember that.

03:16:51.000 Happiness doesn't mean hee-hee-ha-ha.

03:16:54.000 Happiness is adversity, overcoming adversity.

03:16:57.000 Challenges.

03:16:58.000 Yeah.

03:16:59.000 Difficult things.

03:17:00.000 I went to Alaska once.

03:17:02.000 I wanted to go there.

03:17:03.000 I've been a few times, but I went this one time, went to Prince Edward's Island.

03:17:06.000 It rains constantly, constantly.

03:17:08.000 I mean, we were camping, and it was raining while we were camping, so you never get dry.

03:17:12.000 You're just constantly wet.

03:17:13.000 Tell me about the bears.

03:17:15.000 Well, that was a place that didn't have big bears.

03:17:17.000 They only had a few black bears.

03:17:18.000 We didn't see any bears.

03:17:19.000 We were looking for deer.

03:17:20.000 We didn't get a deer.

03:17:21.000 But we were up there camping in the rain, and then I came back to California.

03:17:25.000 And I remember I called all my friends.

03:17:26.000 I go, dude, I've never been happier in my life.

03:17:29.000 Because I was just drenched for like nine days or seven days or whatever we were.

03:17:34.000 But when we came back, it was just sunny.

03:17:37.000 I never felt better about the sun.

03:17:39.000 It felt so good.

03:17:41.000 You were talking about the deer just now.

03:17:43.000 I used to be a cold-blooded vegan until I met you in the venison and the bison and all that stuff.

03:17:49.000 And then I realized that your body needs that.

03:17:52.000 Your body, if you're going to be a high-level performance athlete, it's very likely that it could benefit from some animal protein.

03:18:00.000 I've never eaten bison or venison.

03:18:03.000 I've never eaten that in my life.

03:18:05.000 I even go to the bathroom.

03:18:09.000 I think it's the best food you can eat.

03:18:11.000 I really do.

03:18:11.000 I'm always strong no matter what I'm taking, what I'm doing, I'm always strong.

03:18:15.000 No matter if I'm on a diet, I'm not eating anything but just that and blueberries.

03:18:19.000 I feel incredible.

03:18:20.000 I think bison is like a perfect food.

03:18:22.000 I believe that too.

03:18:24.000 It's perfect.

03:18:25.000 I really believe.

03:18:27.000 I don't get no after effects like I do from chicken or something, beef.

03:18:31.000 Yeah, if you get organic bison, man, that is some amazing meat.

03:18:35.000 It's so good for you.

03:18:36.000 It's so rich in protein too.

03:18:38.000 So is like deer and moose and elk and all those different animals.

03:18:41.000 Yeah, that's what I've been eating lately.

03:18:42.000 It's so much better for you.

03:18:43.000 I never knew about that stuff until I met you.

03:18:45.000 Well, I'm glad you got into it.

03:18:48.000 The only problem with that is you can't...

03:18:52.000 Have a reliable amount of that stuff farmed.

03:18:56.000 Yeah, but I make sure it's enough.

03:18:58.000 I always have it frozen in the freezer.

03:19:00.000 I have a whole freezer with bison, venice.

03:19:04.000 It's a freezer.

03:19:05.000 One freezer for that.

03:19:06.000 Wow.

03:19:07.000 That's awesome.

03:19:08.000 It's the best meat, I think.

03:19:10.000 I don't even look at it as red meat.

03:19:12.000 I don't look at it as red meat.

03:19:14.000 I don't feel like I'm eating red meat.

03:19:18.000 Well, it's game.

03:19:20.000 What it is, it's like an animal that has evolved to get away from the scariest predators.

03:19:25.000 It's an animal in North America that's evolved to get away from mountain lions and wolves and grizzly bears.

03:19:31.000 That's what it's evolved to get away from.

03:19:32.000 And now people.

03:19:34.000 It's an amazing animal.

03:19:36.000 Incredible animal.

03:19:37.000 And when you eat the nutrients in it, it's so dense.

03:19:40.000 It feels better when you eat it.

03:19:42.000 Yeah, it's so much superior than any meat I've eaten before.

03:19:46.000 Yeah, it's fucking good for you.

03:19:51.000 Well, thank you.

03:19:52.000 I appreciate that.

03:19:53.000 Mike Tyson, you're a bad motherfucker.

03:19:54.000 You just don't think, you know, you sometimes, since I took the toad, right, I just thought I knew so much.

03:20:00.000 And then you do DMT and you realize you know shit.

03:20:04.000 You just don't know anything.

03:20:06.000 I was just reading an article about that.

03:20:08.000 These vets that were talking about their experience on that same stuff, on 5-MEO, DMT, and then these trips that they were having, how it would help them put things into perspective.

03:20:18.000 Because it's just so potent.

03:20:20.000 Some of the things that, you know, after doing the toadness, some of the things that I've done in the past, I look and I say, who is that person?

03:20:28.000 What was that nonsense coming out?

03:20:30.000 It's just a different thing.

03:20:33.000 I can't articulate it.

03:20:35.000 It's probably what created people, Mike.

03:20:38.000 It's probably what created the ethical framework that made societies.

03:20:41.000 It probably was tripping.

03:20:43.000 Probably like group tripping and then, of course, like love of family and love of friends and love of your companions and the people around you.

03:20:50.000 That's all that DMT is about.

03:20:51.000 It hits the love gland.

03:20:53.000 Oh, yeah.

03:20:53.000 It penetrates the love gland and it just over-exaggerates it.

03:20:57.000 And if you can feel good, if you can relax when you're on a DMT trip, it's like the most loving experience.

03:21:03.000 If you can just relax.

03:21:05.000 Wake up crying.

03:21:07.000 Yeah.

03:21:07.000 Oh my God.

03:21:08.000 So much beauty.

03:21:09.000 You can't believe it.

03:21:10.000 Someone else said this.

03:21:11.000 I said, I said, coming back is a downer.

03:21:13.000 When you do the total and you come back, oh God.

03:21:16.000 I know.

03:21:16.000 It's like regular life seems kind of dull.

03:21:19.000 It is, because the mind's taking you so many places.

03:21:21.000 Yeah.

03:21:22.000 I wonder if that's what happens when you die.

03:21:24.000 That's what I wonder most about.

03:21:27.000 This is what they found out, right?

03:21:29.000 The soul weight one.

03:21:30.000 What's the soul weight?

03:21:31.000 21 grams?

03:21:32.000 2.1 grams?

03:21:34.000 Something like that?

03:21:34.000 That was a movie, right?

03:21:35.000 No, no, no.

03:21:36.000 About when people died, that their life...

03:21:37.000 No, it wasn't a movie.

03:21:38.000 No, no, it wasn't.

03:21:39.000 But it also was a movie.

03:21:41.000 Yeah, it showed where the person was on the way before he died, on the scale.

03:21:46.000 As soon as he died, he was 2.1.

03:21:48.000 One gram or 21 grams lighter.

03:21:51.000 How much is it again, brother?

03:21:52.000 21 grams.

03:21:54.000 There was a movie about people dying and about...

03:21:58.000 Who was that?

03:22:00.000 It was a popular movie.

03:22:02.000 I think Ethan Hawke was in it.

03:22:04.000 That's right, Ethan Hawke.

03:22:05.000 It was about that very thing.

03:22:07.000 Oh, Sean Penn, Naomi Watts, Benicio Del Toro.

03:22:09.000 Yeah.

03:22:10.000 So that is real?

03:22:12.000 Everybody dies.

03:22:13.000 They're light at 21 grams or 2.1 grams, something to that effect.

03:22:17.000 I wonder how they measure that.

03:22:19.000 When do they know?

03:22:20.000 They put him while he's alive.

03:22:22.000 He's only right before he dies.

03:22:23.000 They weigh him while he's dying.

03:22:24.000 So you let him die on a scale?

03:22:26.000 No, it's like a long scale while you're in your bed.

03:22:29.000 Right, right, right.

03:22:30.000 Oh, so you turn the bed into a scale?

03:22:31.000 Pretty much, yeah.

03:22:32.000 You could probably do that.

03:22:33.000 It seems like you could be able to do that.

03:22:34.000 Yeah.

03:22:35.000 And when they die, they notice that the scale is lighter.

03:22:38.000 Whoa.

03:22:38.000 21 grams.

03:22:39.000 I don't know, how can you measure 21 grams?

03:22:42.000 I'm sure you do.

03:22:44.000 That your spirit actually has a weight.

03:22:48.000 Because imagine 21 grams making all this function.

03:22:51.000 21 grams got this guy over the computer reading telling us that 21 grams is 21 grams.

03:22:57.000 Yeah.

03:22:58.000 So imagine how much power that 21 grand is.

03:23:01.000 Graham have if it's missing as soon as you die.

03:23:06.000 Is that real?

03:23:08.000 So it comes from an experiment a guy did in 1907. God damn.

03:23:14.000 Somebody might want to run that one back.

03:23:16.000 Yeah, we need to try that one again.

03:23:18.000 Because if he's a liar, we got a problem.

03:23:20.000 If he's right, though, it's amazing.

03:23:23.000 If he's right, and then I want him to be right.

03:23:25.000 That's the problem.

03:23:25.000 I want him to be right.

03:23:26.000 2001, physicist Lewis Hollander published an article in the Journal of Scientific Exploration where he exhibited the results of a similar experiment.

03:23:35.000 Tested the weight of one ram, seven ewes, three lambs, one goat.

03:23:40.000 With animals as well?

03:23:42.000 Yeah!

03:23:43.000 Wait a minute, say that again?

03:23:44.000 So he did it with their bodies, upon death they lost weight?

03:23:53.000 His experiment showed that seven of the adult sheep varied their weight upon dying, though not losing it, but rather gaining an amount...

03:24:01.000 What?

03:24:02.000 I don't know.

03:24:02.000 She'd gain weight?

03:24:03.000 They gain weight when they die?

03:24:06.000 I'm reading it in real time.

03:24:07.000 Listen, this is like my car.

03:24:10.000 I'm seeing flying stars.

03:24:11.000 Yeah, there's stars.

03:24:12.000 I'm saying, what's going on here?

03:24:13.000 I should have probably told you.

03:24:14.000 Yeah, this is like my car's the same way.

03:24:16.000 The stars are flying.

03:24:17.000 Yeah, there's a shooting star on the roof every like 40 seconds or something.

03:24:20.000 Suddenly after smoking, whoa.

03:24:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:24:25.000 It's not scientific fact, but it is an experiment people have tried to recreate.

03:24:29.000 If it's not scientific, how come it's an experience that's successful?

03:24:33.000 What is scientific?

03:24:34.000 You try something and it works, right?

03:24:36.000 I think the reason why they say that is because it was in 1907, is that what you said?

03:24:40.000 And it hasn't been recreated.

03:24:41.000 And if it did, it would get recreated.

03:24:43.000 So why do they keep still labeling it 2.1 gram or 21 grams?

03:24:48.000 I think it's just to go with the old study that that guy made.

03:24:51.000 That's crazy that you can make a study, you can do a test, some experiments in 1907. Think it'd be different now?

03:24:58.000 I wonder.

03:24:59.000 I would like to know.

03:25:00.000 Did anybody try that test recently?

03:25:02.000 It'd be amazing if they did.

03:25:04.000 Even during the test, though, only one of the six patients measured that 21 grams.

03:25:09.000 So how come it's so legendary now?

03:25:11.000 It's hard to say.

03:25:12.000 I'm trying to figure out all that.

03:25:14.000 Putting one on over us, right?

03:25:16.000 Johnny over the nickel or something like that.

03:25:18.000 It literally could just be because it got published here like in the New York Times and because of that people just ran.

03:25:23.000 There's a bunch of dumb motherfuckers.

03:25:25.000 New York Times, fake news.

03:25:27.000 Could be.

03:25:28.000 All the way back in, what year was this?

03:25:30.000 1907. Damn.

03:25:31.000 Oh, you know, the bunch of lying ass, rednecks back then, lying motherfuckers.

03:25:36.000 But it's a cool thing to see, like to see written, like that your soul actually has a weight to it.

03:25:42.000 Like you say, oh my God, it's proven.

03:25:44.000 28 grams or 21 grams.

03:25:47.000 But in fact, they don't really know.

03:25:50.000 Hey, listen, I never underestimate the ancients.

03:25:53.000 I don't underestimate them.

03:25:54.000 No.

03:25:55.000 Their thinking capacity.

03:25:56.000 No, I think there was a time, Mike, I'm inclined to believe there was a time where people were at least as advanced as we are, maybe even more so, and they got wiped out by something.

03:26:06.000 Think about this.

03:26:07.000 Think about some motherfuckers.

03:26:09.000 I'm here, and some motherfuckers, excuse me, some gentlemen are in New York, and we're having a conversation.

03:26:16.000 Yeah, crazy.

03:26:17.000 Yeah, we're having a conversation.

03:26:18.000 Through the air.

03:26:19.000 Yeah, and you can do it Zoom time, in real time.

03:26:22.000 No, but at one time I'm sure they could, like that story we think when you think about somebody and all of a sudden he rings, I'm sure they were able to do that stuff.

03:26:30.000 It's on the drop of the dime.

03:26:31.000 Hey, let's call Woodrow.

03:26:33.000 Hey, how you doing?

03:26:34.000 Hey, it's me, Mike, man.

03:26:35.000 Long time no see.

03:26:36.000 I hear from him.

03:26:37.000 And he is talking to Telecolepsy, whatever they call it.

03:26:41.000 Yeah, yeah, for sure.

03:26:43.000 I think we're going to have, that's going to be, they have glasses now.

03:26:47.000 What are the, Ray-Ban puts out glasses?

03:26:49.000 They look like regular glasses or sunglasses and you can like record things through them.

03:26:54.000 You're going to be able to see things through them like GPS and all those augmented reality things and it's going to be in your head.

03:27:07.000 My wife thinks I haven't evolved because I carry a lot of cash on me.

03:27:18.000 She probably shouldn't tell people that, Mike.

03:27:22.000 What?

03:27:23.000 Listen, listen.

03:27:25.000 I've never seen a person.

03:27:26.000 I carry, listen, I carry a lot of cash with it.

03:27:29.000 And my wife said, look at you, you haven't evolved.

03:27:31.000 You still carry all that.

03:27:32.000 What do you carry all that money for?

03:27:34.000 You're just looking for trouble.

03:27:36.000 I said, no, I'm not looking for trouble.

03:27:37.000 You need that credit card to get this.

03:27:39.000 So that's what that credit card is going.

03:27:41.000 You need the credit card to get this.

03:27:43.000 You can't get this without that.

03:27:45.000 You know, you can't work this.

03:27:46.000 How are you going to get somebody?

03:27:47.000 They want to know where the money's at.

03:27:48.000 So I'm the guy, I keep cash on me.

03:27:51.000 Yeah.

03:27:51.000 And that's just what I do.

03:27:53.000 She called me another word, but I won't tell you what she called me.

03:27:56.000 I used to keep cash on me.

03:27:57.000 Well, I used to play pool.

03:27:59.000 Listen, I just found out today that my assistant has my credit card.

03:28:03.000 My credit card was gone for two years.

03:28:05.000 I thought it was gone.

03:28:08.000 Your assistant had the whole time?

03:28:09.000 This week, they had my credit card.

03:28:11.000 I was telling my wife this.

03:28:11.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

03:28:12.000 I said, baby, find out if anybody's calling on my credit card or something, because I didn't see it in two years.

03:28:16.000 I'm lost.

03:28:16.000 I don't know what happened when I canceled my credit card.

03:28:18.000 And next day I know Troy told me, Mike, I got your credit card.

03:28:21.000 This is two years.

03:28:22.000 That's hilarious.

03:28:24.000 Oh, God.

03:28:25.000 How about a heads up?

03:28:26.000 I wish.

03:28:26.000 You don't want to tell me you have my fucking credit card?

03:28:30.000 I used to play pool a lot.

03:28:31.000 We always had money.

03:28:32.000 I always carried some amount of cash on me because people always wanted to gamble.

03:28:36.000 So I always had a few hundred bucks on me.

03:28:38.000 Exactly.

03:28:39.000 Know what they found out now?

03:28:40.000 They said Mr. Bighton's son is hanging out with Whitey Bulger's people, his nephew and stuff.

03:28:47.000 What?

03:28:48.000 Look it up, look it up, brother.

03:28:49.000 What's his name again?

03:28:50.000 Jamie.

03:28:51.000 Jamie, say it.

03:28:51.000 Say Jamie, look it up.

03:28:52.000 Jamie, see?

03:28:54.000 Jamie's going to find out.

03:28:56.000 Whitey Bulger.

03:28:57.000 And listen, I like this Biden's son guy.

03:29:00.000 I know he probably got some issues, but I kind of like this guy, man.

03:29:04.000 Look at this stuff.

03:29:05.000 I tried to get on the podcast.

03:29:06.000 Look at this stuff, man.

03:29:08.000 Whitey Bulger's nephew played a role in Hunter Biden's Chinese business ventures.

03:29:13.000 Excuse me, I'm coughing here.

03:29:16.000 Mobster Whitey Bulger's nephew played a role in Hunter Biden's Chinese business ventures through emails.

03:29:21.000 But that don't mean he's a bad guy because he's Whitey's nephew.

03:29:24.000 What did he do?

03:29:28.000 He's a businessman.

03:29:29.000 That's just what I think, okay?

03:29:30.000 That's just me, personally.

03:29:31.000 He has nothing to do with it.

03:29:32.000 That's not his fault.

03:29:34.000 It's his nephew.

03:29:35.000 Yeah, I mean, his nephew's not responsible for his crimes.

03:29:37.000 He can't help it that this is Whitey Bulger and he's my uncle.

03:29:40.000 Exactly.

03:29:41.000 But I think Hunter Biden knows how to party.

03:29:43.000 I'll tell you that.

03:29:45.000 Hey, I have mad respect for him on that party gear.

03:29:51.000 I mean, the dude is partying.

03:29:55.000 I know I probably lose some points by saying that this guy is really cool, but he seemed to be really fucking cool.

03:30:01.000 Well, you know, he looks like a wild motherfucker.

03:30:05.000 It's kind of funny that the...

03:30:06.000 It's always funny when a president who's like this button-down, you know, like, put-together president has a wild motherfucker as a son.

03:30:15.000 That's not true.

03:30:16.000 You know what happens with us?

03:30:19.000 The things that we hide all our life comes out in our children.

03:30:24.000 You can never avoid who you are.

03:30:26.000 Right.

03:30:29.000 I bet all the politicians were wild back in the 60s.

03:30:32.000 If you weren't, listen, I was told this from a guy that was a, what's the guy, Woodstock guy, he said, if you remember the 60s, you weren't there.

03:30:44.000 Yeah, you believe this guy told me that?

03:30:46.000 That's perfect.

03:30:46.000 All those guys that remember the 60s, they weren't there.

03:30:49.000 That's hilarious.

03:30:51.000 Mike, we're going to do your podcast after this.

03:30:54.000 We are?

03:30:55.000 Yeah.

03:30:55.000 So we're three hours and 20 minutes, I think, into this one.

03:31:00.000 So what, I got to do Relevant?

03:31:01.000 Let's wrap this up.

03:31:02.000 Oh yeah, Relevant is this new people's app.

03:31:04.000 Yes.

03:31:04.000 And what is this?

03:31:05.000 You're involved in this?

03:31:06.000 Absolutely.

03:31:07.000 I'm a shareholder in this company because I was...

03:31:11.000 You know, it was canceled because I smoked weed on my show, so they canceled me.

03:31:14.000 So I got involved with this app.

03:31:17.000 So when you say they canceled you, like who canceled?

03:31:19.000 Like YouTube?

03:31:20.000 Is it still on YouTube?

03:31:21.000 Yes, yes, yes, but...

03:31:22.000 Is it still on YouTube?

03:31:25.000 Hotboxing?

03:31:25.000 I believe there was a couple of them that were kind of skimmish because I was smoking, of course.

03:31:30.000 Oh, okay.

03:31:31.000 And I believe now that I'm with Relevant, I'm able to smoke without anybody giving me any shit.

03:31:36.000 And if they don't like it, I can cancel you.

03:31:38.000 Oh, you don't like me, you'll cancel you, motherfucker.

03:31:40.000 Fuck you!

03:31:41.000 I'm canceling you!

03:31:42.000 You!

03:31:43.000 How does one get this Relevant app?

03:31:45.000 Is it in the App Store?

03:31:46.000 Absolutely.

03:31:47.000 It's like for iTunes and for Android, it's for all that?

03:31:51.000 Listen, just look for it.

03:31:52.000 They give you all the information you need.

03:31:54.000 Relevant.

03:31:55.000 R-E-L-E-V-N-T. Absolutely.

03:31:58.000 Okay.

03:31:58.000 If you want to know more about me, you look for MikeTyson.com and you know all that stuff.

03:32:02.000 And so your podcast from here forward will be on that?

03:32:05.000 Is that how people can find it?

03:32:06.000 Yes, yes.

03:32:07.000 Okay.

03:32:07.000 Wait till you meet my staff.

03:32:08.000 I have...

03:32:09.000 I met a bunch of them.

03:32:10.000 Oh, really?

03:32:10.000 You see the young lady that's just a...

03:32:13.000 She is just...

03:32:13.000 Go get her.

03:32:14.000 Yeah, man.

03:32:14.000 Yes.

03:32:15.000 It's pretty...

03:32:16.000 I won't say masculinity is what it is.

03:32:19.000 I was going to say toxic masculinity, but no, it's just masculinity.

03:32:22.000 It's just strength.

03:32:23.000 Yeah, she's strong sister.

03:32:25.000 And you can get...

03:32:26.000 So that app's available now.

03:32:28.000 And can you get it on YouTube still?

03:32:30.000 It's on YouTube.

03:32:31.000 Everything, yes.

03:32:32.000 So it's on everything.

03:32:33.000 Beautiful.

03:32:34.000 And you also have another cannabis line, right?

03:32:38.000 Like you stopped doing the Tyson Farms, and you moved to...

03:32:41.000 Tyson 2.0, and we have this soda that's coming out that's really interesting.

03:32:48.000 I'm gonna give you more information probably on my show.

03:32:50.000 I believe it's a nootropic.

03:32:51.000 It's like a nootropic soda.

03:32:53.000 It's really awesome.

03:32:54.000 Yeah, that's exciting.

03:32:55.000 Yeah, it's really awesome.

03:32:56.000 And it's with Jones Soda, which is like, they make great soda.

03:32:59.000 Listen, and then we did Mike.

03:33:01.000 Check this out.

03:33:02.000 Look at this.

03:33:03.000 Tyson 2.0, our strains.

03:33:06.000 Store locator.

03:33:07.000 Look at that.

03:33:10.000 May I give testament to the veracity of your marijuana?

03:33:15.000 Listen, brother, thank you very much.

03:33:17.000 This is a dream come true.

03:33:20.000 Dude, I'm one of your biggest fans of all time.

03:33:22.000 I just can't believe I can't.

03:33:24.000 I'm always shocked when I'm sitting down talking to you.

03:33:26.000 I just can't believe that, you know, listen, Yes, but I'm the grace of God.

03:33:31.000 I'm just very grateful.

03:33:32.000 Well, I'm very grateful, too.

03:33:34.000 It's an honor to know you.

03:33:35.000 It really is.

03:33:36.000 From the time when I was a kid, no bullshit.

03:33:38.000 I was a giant fan, and you're a cool motherfucker.

03:33:40.000 Thank you.

03:33:41.000 I've been called worse, but you know.

03:33:42.000 I love you.

03:33:43.000 All right.

03:33:43.000 Thank you, everybody, and we'll see you later.

03:33:46.000 Bye.

03:33:46.000 Love, brother.

The Joe Rogan Experience - April 15, 2022

Joe Rogan Experience #1805 - Mike Tyson

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