In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the boys talk about their favorite things they like to drink and talk about some of their favorite movies and tv shows. They also talk about how they met and became friends with the late, great comedian Brian Callen, and how he taught them a thing or two about wine and their mutual love of good ol' fashioned hardboozers. They also get into a little bit of wine and a lot of other stuff, and then they talk about what they like and don't like about wine, and what they do with it and how they don't drink it. It's a good one, and it's a fun one, so don't miss it! Joe Rogans Experience is a podcast by day, hosted by the legendary comedian and stand-up comedian, J.O.R.J.A.K.E.D.D., and by night by night, where they're drinking and talking about all things wine and other things related to wine and liquor and other stuff that's good and not so good. . This episode features: 1:00:00 - What's your favorite wine? 2:30 - What s your favorite thing to drink? 3:15 - How does wine taste? 4:10 - How do you like wine and beer? 5:00 -- What do you think about wine & liquor? 6:30 -- What does it taste like to you? 7:20 -- How does it make you feel? 8: What s good? 9: How does your wine taste like? 11:15 -- What are you drinking it? 12:20 - How much wine does you like it better? 14:40 -- What is your favorite kind of thing? 15:00 16:10 -- What s the worst thing you're drinking right now? 17:40 - What is the best thing you like to do with wine and/or are you trying to do? 18:20 19:30 -- How much do you drink with your wine and are you're trying to learn about wine 22: How much you like your wine & other things? 21:00 | How much of your wine is better than your wine ? 26:40 27: Is it better than you're going to try to drink it? 26:10 Is there a wine that tastes better than yours?
00:02:04.000My friend Matt's like a legit wine connoisseur.
00:02:07.000So much so that he had a birthday and on his birthday he had this wine tasting dinner and you would get like a flight of wines with each plate.
00:02:18.000So it was like a fancy restaurant, so they bring like a little tiny little piece of something.
00:02:55.000The way this guy fucked up is, the movie's called Sour Grapes, and the way the guy fucked up is he ripped off one of the Koch brothers, which is not a smart move.
00:03:05.000Those guys got some capital, and they know how to move.
00:03:10.000This guy had bought, I think it was more than a million dollars worth of fake wine from him.
00:03:21.000Don't get me wrong, he says a lot of bullshit to make us laugh, but when it comes to wine, he knows it.
00:03:25.000And when I first started hanging out with Brian, what was this, 10 years ago around L.A., you know, he hangs around smart people, and I would feel so stupid, and I'd hang out with him.
00:03:35.000But I'd watch him try wine, and I'd pick up on things they would say.
00:03:38.000I'm like, oh, I'm going to use that next time.
00:03:40.000And so, dude, we're at Scopa, Italian Roots in LA, and there's like all these fancy people, and they hand me the wine, and I'm swirling, I have no idea what I'm doing, I'm just copping, I'm swirling, I take a sip, I go, that's earthy, that is earthy.
00:03:55.000And it worked, like it is earthy, I was like, oh my god, you guys are fucking...
00:04:23.000College football didn't fucking touch it.
00:04:26.000And then, I don't know if you remember this, I was getting ready to do a set at the Comedy Store, and I was so nervous, and I was in the back bar, and you come here, what are you doing?
00:04:34.000I was like, I think I had to follow up fucking Joey Diaz, I got like the worst, you know, spot.
00:04:39.000And I was so nervous, and he's like, dude, take a shot.
00:04:42.000You put too much pressure, take a shot.
00:04:43.000I'm like, dude, I don't drink, just take a shot.
00:04:44.000It was like Jack, you know, nothing great.
00:04:47.000And then I took it, and I was like, I enjoyed that.
00:04:49.000And I got there, had my best set ever for me at the time.
00:04:53.000And then, you know, I believe in superstition, so then I was like, I'm just going to keep doing this.
00:07:49.000Yeah, like you're on this rap, and it's like wild shit, man.
00:07:53.000You get into some wild waters, and you gotta hang on, you're getting sprayed, and you're bouncing off these fucking rocks with these inner tubes.
00:08:00.000And your kids are with you, so you think about that?
00:09:06.000They're so big, and they're one of the rare deer species that will fuck you up.
00:09:11.000That's what the guy was like, oh, they're so aggressive.
00:09:13.000He's like, we wouldn't warn you if this was an issue.
00:09:16.000Depending on mating season or whatever, whatever else is going on on the property, obviously we can't control if they fucking stumble on the property, but depending on what's going on, they can be uber aggressive.
00:09:28.000It's very rare that elk are aggressive, but moose are very aggressive all the time.
00:09:33.000I guess it's just the harsh climate that they live in.
00:09:37.000Wherever moose are, I think grizzly bears are.
00:09:41.000Well, that's not true, because there's moose in Utah.
00:11:23.000Yeah, my only issue with that is sometimes it's two balls deep in the horse, which if you're into that stuff, I bet people are like, oh, this is authentic.
00:11:32.000But if you're not, it's like, alright, dude.
00:11:34.000The horse stopping in the fucking sand and shit.
00:12:08.000Besides, I mean, The Dark Knight's the best of all time, but to me, that, I was, halfway through I looked at my girl, because, you know, we have kids who can't go to the movies.
00:12:14.000I looked at my girl, I go, I pause, hold up, is this not the best fucking Batman you've seen?
00:12:55.000See, the Riddler to me was so creepy because he related to all the incels and this mob and bring him to the fucking stadium and shoot everybody.
00:13:08.000It's like, yeah, that could definitely happen.
00:13:09.000The problem with all those movies is you compare them all against the Joker.
00:13:13.000And the Joker movie was so fucking good and so creepy.
00:13:19.000The Dark Knight you're saying with Heath Ledger.
00:13:23.000Well, no, the recent one with Joaquin Phoenix.
00:18:45.000She must be a real Tomcat in this act, dude.
00:18:49.000I think he's probably a really nice guy and he had great moments with her and he keeps going back to those great moments and thinking they can get past all this craziness because Johnny, I don't know Johnny well.
00:19:03.000I've talked to him before but I know of his career and I know of his love of Hunter Thompson.
00:19:15.000I met him once personally in the comedy store, but I talked to him on the phone for an extended period of time once when he was dealing with all this shit.
00:23:11.000The way I've described it is like getting famous when you're really young and then trying to be a fully grown adult is like making cement, but you don't use all the material and it doesn't cure right.
00:23:21.000You don't grow up in a realistic world.
00:28:14.000New research shows that crows and other corvids know what they know and can ponder the content of their own minds, according to STAT. This is considered a cornerstone of self-awareness and shared by just a handful of animal species besides humans.
00:28:32.000They got a bad rap, too, because in all the movies, they're like the...
00:29:19.000See if you can get some photos of it, of a Tibetan Sky funeral.
00:29:23.000Because I remember this was one of those things that I first found out about in the early days of the internet.
00:29:28.000You know, like in the early days of the internet where you like, you would just get sent things and it would change the way you looked at stuff.
00:30:54.000Dude, this is how wild of a boy he is, because he was at the shop and friends at the improv, and he did a guest spot there, and he was in the green room.
00:31:03.000First of all, I can't remember the last time when there was a comic on stage and all the comics in the green room walked out and watched somebody's set.
00:31:13.000I've seen it at the store when you're on, or Burr, you know, Joey Diaz.
00:31:47.000Then he comes back to the green room and he gets on his notepad and he's writing what worked, what didn't, and then did the late show and made adjustments.
00:37:31.000I'm like, I'm putting him down just in case something pops off.
00:37:33.000So I'm like, why the fuck is this guy falling?
00:37:35.000So my girl's up in front of me, so I don't say anything because I don't want her to be stressed out.
00:37:40.000So we get back to our little place and we go in there.
00:37:43.000And then I didn't say anything because I didn't want to alert the family.
00:37:46.000And the next morning I go, hey, when the homeboy comes back in here, because he only spoke Spanish, I go, Ask him why that guy with the AK-47 was following us last night.
00:39:42.000So, you know, I think, but for the most part, and I did talk about this and we got emails where people were like, dude, you're more likely to get shot in LA, Detroit, and Chicago than you are in Mexico.
00:43:22.000But Chappelle, he's so funny because...
00:43:25.000When he first came on the road with me, I told him, I said, hey, the goal here is, you know, you get so popular, you're headlining your own shit.
00:43:32.000I don't want you to just be my feature.
00:43:34.000And probably about, I don't know, six months ago, seven months ago, he's all nervous, you know, Chappelle, he's like the nicest fucking guy in the world.
00:43:41.000And he goes, hey man, I can't do that date in Tacoma with you.
00:46:53.000The process of developing as a musician, like if you're classically trained, you can go to schools, you can go to Juilliard, you can learn music, you learn how to read Beethoven, you learn how to compose, you learn how to play ancient songs.
00:47:42.000It has a little bit, Joe, because, you know, you talk about a three-hour process of Richard Pryor and how he got to where he's at, and you look at the game now, what about a three-hour fucking conversation with you or Bill Burr?
00:47:56.000But the thing is, you can have that, and if you took all the times I've ever talked about stand-up on this podcast, you would have more than three hours.
00:48:03.000The point is, like, Richard Pryor was doing it when no one knew how to do it.
00:48:28.000But to hear him talk about it would have been fucking amazing.
00:48:32.000But don't you think it's interesting, too, if you talk about a comics process, some comics like to write it all out, and some comics are just chaos where nobody's going to relate to it.
00:48:40.000But I think that's why there's not that kind of blueprint for it.
00:48:50.000You know the the accolades that these other athletes do because there's no path you're not going to college to You know a scholarship at Duke and go the NBA like you made it everybody makes it different way you made it as a wrestler Yeah, so yeah, or you came up the ultimate fighter Dana White's contender series.
00:49:06.000Yeah, they don't get the same accolades.
00:49:08.000I think it's the similar with comedy It's like everybody's different, but I think why you know I was so fortunate when I got in the game and I was surrounded by you and Bert and Tom and Delia and Theo and especially really you because people go,
00:50:04.000You would never get him to do it that way.
00:50:07.000You'd never get Joey Diaz to approach it.
00:50:08.000Everybody has their own way of doing it.
00:50:11.000But the point is that there's a way to parse that out.
00:50:15.000It's not that you would teach a blueprint of how to do it, but there's a way to parse out all the ways.
00:50:22.000If you looked at the way Gilbert Godfrey created stand-up, you look at the way David Tell created stand-up.
00:50:26.000There's a way that we can at least get some lessons there and develop a study on it.
00:50:32.000Because what stand-up is, is a kind of a form of mass hypnosis that most people love.
00:50:39.000Most people love to go to a comedy show and laugh hard.
00:50:42.000If you've gone to a comedy show and you saw one of your favorite comedians and they had a great set, you walked out of there like, oh my god, that was amazing.
00:50:51.000You see people piling out of theaters and they're just laughing and they're having so much fun.
00:50:56.000You gave them a drug for as long as you were on stage, and that, in its final form, like, you know, comedians sell out arenas, and comedians have Netflix specials that are huge, but in terms of the way people understand how that was created,
00:51:28.000Once you got to a certain level of proficiency, you were helped along.
00:51:33.000And I think that's what we can do here in Austin.
00:51:36.000I think what I want to do with The Mothership is have this place where you can work out, and you can learn, and you can be around, and we can all help each other because you're going to be around these killers.
00:51:49.000You're going to be around guys like Segura.
00:51:51.000You're going to be around guys like Hinchcliffe.
00:51:53.000You're going to be around these fucking murderers that come in from out of town.
00:53:50.000The universe wants to reward someone who tries to do better and tries to make people around them better and tries to get better because of those people around them that are better and tries to celebrate all the people that are better than them.
00:57:52.000And she goes, tell that guy to stop being racist.
00:57:55.000And I said, I go, I forget exactly how I phrased it, but it was something sent of, I normally would just accept the fact that That this guy had probably done something wrong if it wasn't for the color of your hair.
00:58:09.000I think you might be susceptible to outrage.
00:58:12.000I was like, you might be a little bit more complainy than most.
00:58:56.000Somebody talked to me about that, and they were saying, is it hard to do comedy and commentate for the UFC? I'm like, is it hard to kiss your daughter on the cheek and then hang out with your buddies and high-five?
00:59:18.000There's people that are sweet to their grandmother, and, you know, they're rough on a guy at work that's a dick.
00:59:24.000You're different, you know, no matter what you're doing.
00:59:27.000You know, there's some Hell's Angels out there who are great dads to their daughters, and then they've got to collect money, dude, and break some legs.
00:59:31.000That was the thing in Goodfellas, right?
01:01:17.000And then if you went to sit down next to Johnny Carson, I don't know how Johnny Carson did it, but I know that some of those late night talk show guys, they would have very specific things they'd want to talk to you about.
01:01:28.000You know, like, so I heard you started riding a bike in your neighborhood.
01:05:11.000And so I'm on the show and this was like during the days when I first started commentating for the UFC. And he starts talking about how the stuff they do is for the street.
01:05:25.000Do you know how much that makes my fucking blood boil?
01:06:00.000But he does a show with two co-hosts, and they kept saying, people do it to me all the time whenever I'm doing press, this guy's an athlete, and they kept saying, athlete, athlete, and I went, hold on, hold on, it's triggering for me, hold on.
01:06:11.000I think we're a little too loose with the term athlete.
01:07:33.000He told me, I go, Oh, my head coach at Rain Training Center, who's Chael's main guy and all those, I go, he was the captain of ASU. So I text him, hey, you ever heard of this guy?
01:11:02.000The one time, I'll give this to Brian, the one time was Saquon Barkley, who's like the biggest freak in the NFL, and he's kind of shorter, but his fucking quads are like this.
01:11:10.000So I see him, right, and he was his rookie year in the NFL for the Giants, and he's rookie of the year and fucking almost won the Heisman.
01:11:16.000I track him, I see him come on the play, I'm like, oh, let's say Kwon Barkley, that's a fucking jack dude.
01:11:20.000I'm like, fuck, Ryan's gonna say something.
01:11:22.000He's walking by, he goes, hey, bro, my God, those fucking quads.
01:11:26.000And he got it right this time, so it worked.
01:11:29.000He goes, what are you, some sort of running back, let me guess?
01:14:03.000And you know as well as I know that when, like, you've seen street fight videos where guys get KO'd and their heads bounce off the concrete.
01:15:22.000In terms of like, he liked to have a few alcoholic beverages.
01:15:27.000I don't know if he was still drinking at the time and he never had like a drinking problem But I'm saying he's not it's not like he was running marathons, you know, he's uh Also shit happens like sometimes freak shit happens shit happens so for the family It's terrible that people keep carrying on with this stuff.
01:15:43.000I'm just saying what that doctor said I thought that was weird, but it's also like okay at the end of the day okay, but also you If there was some malarkey or shady shit going on, it happened at the Four Seasons.
01:17:24.000Those are the people that you should be concerned about because they're not thinking about other people.
01:17:27.000They're only thinking about themselves.
01:17:29.000They're trying to victimize other people in order for them to gain their own success.
01:17:34.000But the other people that annoy you, you got to look at what are they doing that's so bad?
01:17:39.000And why are you spending so much time concentrating on it?
01:17:43.000And I get criticism, and one of the things about being a person like you, or being a person like me, who's public, is you gotta accept the fact that people are gonna talk shit about you.
01:18:14.000It's almost like comedy is like some...
01:18:16.000I know it's sacred to them because for every comic, it's like when you're on stage and when it goes right, it's like that's what you're working towards.
01:18:24.000You're putting countless hours into that moment where you hit a punchline and everybody laughs and you know you're locked in.
01:21:33.000There was a guy, I don't want to say his name, I don't want to embarrass him, but he was on stage and this kid was a big kid, like a big football player looking kid, went on stage, took the mic from him and blew cigar smoke in his face.
01:23:22.000I did a bunch of shows with Otto, and one of the shows I did was also at Dangerfields, and there's this kid in the front row, he's like, man, I can see his lips moving.
01:24:33.000Someone should have, like, blue hair, and they should be, like, the progressive, ultra-liberal, and then they should have a dummy that's their dad, who's like an Archie Bunker, who says some really funny, fucked-up shit.
01:24:47.000That would be a brilliant act, because you would be exonerated, especially if you claim non-binary status before you started your career.
01:28:34.000Here's the thing you don't know about billboards in L.A. First of all, Netflix and ABC owns all of them down Sunset and Hollywood Boulevard.
01:28:57.000Cool, but once you know it's off Hollywood Boulevard, and it's during the Netflix big festival, and it's right where Dave Chappelle's performing.
01:29:33.000It's literally just a show, you know, and obviously I have some other resource because I have a team behind me, but I can, you know, shoot my own special, cut the sizzles, commercials, billboard, whatever these networks offer, I can do.
01:31:20.000Also, if you're going to do it for free and just release it, you can release it on Facebook, you can release it on YouTube, you can release it on Vimeo.
01:31:43.000And that's the way, you know, I came up different than you did, where, you know, when you were coming up, especially, I would even say Netflix now, it's a little different, but when you were coming up, you know, maybe eight guys got specials.
01:31:55.000You know, but now it's more of like an advertisement.
01:31:57.000Just, you know, you're doubling down your shelf.
01:34:57.000There's regular people, the people that are around when they're having a drink at your house, when there's no cameras, when it's just you and another person.
01:35:07.000That's people when they're at their most normal.
01:35:10.000And then there's people when they're in corporate positions.
01:35:13.000And then there's people that are in these jobs where you have to abide by this rigid set of rules of how do you do things and behavior and what you dress like.
01:35:26.000But also, they don't want to be responsible for, who greenlit that?
01:36:21.000Yeah, again, you're the North Star, man, for a lot of comics.
01:36:24.000And I think even with me at the level and put on YouTube and getting the billboards and shooting the commercial and sizzle and all my team doing it, it shows you, you know, we'll see what happens with it.
01:36:33.000Nothing I can do now, but it's like you don't need anybody, dude.
01:36:37.000If the material is good, it speaks for itself.
01:37:05.000And then when the internet opened up, we all looked at it differently because we realized, like, well, we actually benefit from being around each other.
01:37:44.000He was shooting a movie with Eddie Murphy for Netflix or something.
01:37:47.000And he goes, I'm going to pull up to the late show.
01:37:50.000I'm going to sit there and watch it as a fan, dude, and let you know.
01:37:53.000I didn't ask him to do any of this, dude.
01:37:55.000He comes, after being on set all day, Schultz, he comes, watches it, we talk in the back, and then he goes, let me know, man, because I know the YouTube algorithm, how it should look, stuff like that, and then has just been, here's my team.
01:38:09.000Him and Akash, here's my fucking team, dude.
01:38:13.000So my team connects with his team, and then even, you know, People know you always support me, but even you and DiStefano and DiStefano are like, send it to me, man.
01:38:23.000The edits here and just stuff that you guys have so much more experience.
01:38:28.000What you guys say, I'm fucking sure as hell listening.
01:39:36.000And I think that applies to comedy, too.
01:39:40.000I think the helping of guys coming up helps everybody, because the more you talk about stand-up and the way you do it, the more it kind of affirms the value of it, and that there's a discipline to it, and that there's other guys that are doing the same thing I'm doing,
01:40:46.000You're trying to say this and go straight to that.
01:40:49.000And that's something that even if I can't tell you how to do stand-up, Because everybody's different.
01:40:55.000You know, you got your William Montgomery's, you got your David Lucas's, and then you got your Neil Brennan's, and then you got your Sebastian's.
01:42:11.000After seeing his shit, it's cool to see at his level, this guy's been doing it forever, to see him a little chunky, a little clunky in the middle, and then comes back and, you know, he says what's up, and he's cool, he's super polite, but then he's on his notepad.
01:45:41.000The peaks and the valleys, there's no in-between.
01:45:45.000It's like, you win, it's, dude, oh my god.
01:45:48.000I remember when I knocked out Chris Tushesher, he was 20-1, Brock Lesnar's training partner, and I knocked him out in, whatever, a minute and seven seconds.
01:45:56.000I remember getting to the back and just getting on my hands and knees and crying, being so happy that I didn't get hurt and I got a win, and I was moving on to the next step, whatever that is.
01:46:36.000So when those guys lose at that level, there's nothing like it, man.
01:46:41.000And I do think that's helped me out so much in comedy.
01:46:46.000In stand-up, you know, because it can get dark, you know, especially for a guy like me coming to comedy, looking the way I do, you know, being my size and being this weird oddball in this comedy world, which is filled with oddballs already, but I'm even fucking weirder.
01:46:59.000That's the thing, that's what bothers me, is like, I am accustomed to being around savages, right?
01:47:05.000I'm accustomed to being around guys like you and fighters and From all the years of working with the UFC and all my years of martial arts, it's normal to me.
01:50:34.000But for Cro Cop, I was so amped up for that because I went into that fight watching all his old highlights because I was expecting that version.
01:50:43.000So you'll see I'm super focused in that fight.
01:50:51.000Noguera, you know, somewhere along the lines after knocking out Krokop, all the press and media and being on covers of magazines, as a young kid, I got super cocky and I paid for it.
01:51:01.000But again, I wouldn't change anything.
01:51:03.000But when you talk about the valleys of fighting and just life, when, you know, you fought on a Saturday and most people go home on a Sunday...
01:51:13.000I was so sure I was gonna starch no gear in Brazil, I flew my family friends out, and we stayed another seven days.
01:53:07.000But then when I would go, you know, every morning I'd go to the same coffee shop or I'd, you know, go get my foods and I would have interactions with people.
01:53:43.000The thing that's different between podcasts...
01:53:46.000And anything where you're on a network is that someone else, even if you fuck up and say stupid shit like Whoopi Goldberg and they suspend you, but you only get there if you get chosen.
01:54:00.000There's a way that you can do it where you have to, like, there's commercials, you have to get everything in in seven minutes, and then there's the next commercial, and you're dealing with a lot of fucking filters.
01:56:01.000The only time it's good is when maybe you have information, especially if you're living under some horrible government, and you have information that needs to be distributed and you need to be anonymous.
01:56:16.000But other than that, I feel like We're all moving in a general direction of just trying to have a better society and a better life.
01:56:33.000But the movement would show, you know, you look at a lot of celebrities where Whether they're actors, comedians, a lot of them aren't engaged in social media anymore.
01:56:42.000They're going, that's just not good for me, man.
01:56:44.000But that's the difference between podcasts and people that act, right?
01:56:48.000Of course you're going to engage in social media.
01:56:50.000This is way more intimate than any social media will ever put out.
01:56:54.000Like, having a conversation, just you and me hanging out.
01:56:57.000Like, this is way more intimate than any social media, than anybody can ever put out.
01:57:00.000It's also, you and I are so basically the only way we catch up, dude.
01:57:07.000Yeah, I'm just saying, and we talk on the phone all the time, but I'm just saying, as far as three hours, like when Theo did your show, I call him, you know, he's all nervous, and he goes, man, I don't talk to my therapist for three hours, man.
01:57:18.000He goes, shit, I don't talk to my mom for three hours.
01:57:27.000He's such an interesting dude because him and I are, and that's why the king of this thing in the wing works, we're so opposite where I'm like you.
01:58:01.000Again, for him, again, back to your, if you're gonna write about comics, if you wrote Theo's process, I don't know how many people are gonna be able to relate to it.
01:58:09.000But for Theo, for Theo, there's no, dude, when him and Chris are going, dude, there's, I sit back.
01:58:23.000Theo has one of the most unique senses of humor I've ever encountered.
01:58:26.000But if you could get his process down, and if someone could talk about him from the beginning, the open mic days, to really developing new material, to who he is now, if someone could break that down like that, that'd be very valuable just to see his process.
02:01:12.000But I get a lot of advice from Theo, too, because remember, he had that stigma on him.
02:01:16.000They came from the real world, and he wasn't a comic, and he was this hack.
02:01:20.000So same thing, coming from the UFC, it takes a while, man.
02:01:24.000It takes a while, but the thing is, if you're coming straight from the UFC, or straight from a reality show, you're an open-miker with too much attention.
02:03:41.000If you're coming into it with already a built-in kind of fan base, and for him it's like, obviously he's a massive star, has some hits, right?
02:03:52.000But then he's coming in and Not only is he coming in like the laugh factor in a comedy store, which is a whole other issue, but he's coming in there and he's bumping guys and running the light.
02:04:02.000So I think for him, he doesn't have anybody in his crew that knows comedy.
02:04:05.000If someone would come and go, hey dude, it's fine, you're playing here, don't run the light, dude.
02:04:10.000So he just shows up and goes on stage?
02:09:24.000Kevin Hart doesn't do it, but even at the highest level, Dave Chappelle, my first time ever headlining at the Comedy Store, I couldn't figure out why they asked me to headline at the Belly Room.
02:16:27.000So there's one part where you're running and then you stop for the fucking obstacle course and then it's just a fucking dugout hole of mud water and then hanging up above you is like tentacles, like wires.
02:16:40.000If you touch them, you get electrocuted.
02:16:42.000So you gotta be smart and navigate your way through it.
02:21:07.000I did it in Lake Elsinore, which is, like, right outside Temeculia.
02:21:10.000So I did it there, and then that night I was gonna do pop-up shows and surprise the fans for Chris D'Elia's show in the Laugh Factory San Diego.
02:21:19.000So I do that Tough Mudder, and I was like, I'll be fine.
02:21:42.000Thank God I only did, whatever, 20 minutes.
02:21:44.000If it was like two two-hour shows and meet and greets, your boy would have been fucked.
02:21:49.000Yeah, you only have so much energy in your body.
02:21:51.000You know what I think about all the time when I do meet and greets is when you used to do meet and greets with everybody after your giant theaters and just sit there for hours meeting people.
02:25:45.000But making fun of it in that way, I wish I could just be hanging out with my friends and then- The bit is they get in on it because I go, man, if they lock us back down, you know how much more fun it'd be if we were with the bros?
02:25:59.000You know how much more fun lockdown it'd be with the bros?
02:26:01.000And then I go, this is where I fucked up, I go, fellas, think about it, and they're all in on the joke, and I think about it, dude, we'd like work out, right?
02:27:25.000I'll tell you what, I'll tell a funny joke when you fix your roots.
02:27:28.000You know just whatever and she her hair's all fucked up because you can tell it fucking hurt her internally and then she would say something the crowd start chanting roots roots roots I could feel them like they were gonna fucking pick this girl apart so I go whoa whoa hold on hold on I can feel it and I go Are you done?
02:28:07.000It's like if a girl knows a guy, but she doesn't know him, she knows of him, and he's right there, maybe she'll say something insulting to get his attention.
02:29:47.000Really setting a standard that a lot of those hoes don't like.
02:29:50.000They get mad when you follow one of these fucking super dedicated fitness gals with ridiculous legs and ass, and you're like, what the hell?
02:30:28.000If you wanted to look at it like a graph, if they were showing a chart of when the increase in insane asses came, I think a lot of it coincides with social media.
02:41:45.000It's a rare opportunity to be able to do something like that.
02:41:48.000As someone who loves comedy as much as I do, why wouldn't I do that?
02:41:52.000It was one of the rare moments in my life where I felt like the decision was made for me by the circumstances and just by fate, just by legacy, just laying it down.
02:42:15.000And it's like, what else would you want to do?
02:42:17.000It's the same thing where we're talking about the whole thing about whether you would do your special on a network and be subject to their ability to distribute, their whims as far as what your material is or anything else.
02:42:34.000Well, that's kind of the same thing with a comedy club.
02:42:37.000I mean, if you could run your own comedy club and do it optimally, and then you would realize, like, I don't need anybody else to do this.
02:42:46.000But plus, you came up in comedy clubs.
02:43:03.000We could just get together with all the other people that you need to run a club, like great bar managers and great managers and talent coordinators and just figure it out.
02:44:42.000But the point is, when we have a club out here, and we have a legitimate home base, and we can attract people to come and hang and make it a fun place, Make it something that everybody looks forward to and you actually like look forward to showing everyone your new shit when you come into town and have it that kind of environment that it's that good.
02:45:52.000If you just look at the amount of guys that are crushing it right now, it's a really good time.
02:45:57.000It's a good time, but it's also never been more competitive.
02:46:00.000When you think about it, like when you're coming up, like if you're on the road, let's say you're in, you know, where was I? I was in Phoenix.
02:46:06.000Well, fucking also in Phoenix was another comic.
02:46:09.000Like there's a lot of competition, man.
02:46:11.000Or the week before was Chris DiStefano.
02:46:13.000You can think about it that way, but there's no way you're ever going to tap into the sheer numbers of people that are out there available and looking for entertainment on a regular night in a city.
02:47:30.000What comics are learning from promoting things on the internet, whether it's Schultz when he did his special online, or Norman did, Shane Gillis released his on YouTube, all these guys doing them, just releasing them online, they're realizing You don't have to do it the way that everybody else used to do it,
02:47:48.000where you're thinking about, like, oh, I don't want to say this because then I won't get a show.
02:47:53.000Or, oh, I want to build up until the point that I can sell my sitcom.
02:52:33.000I think that, I don't think at the moment Tiger could probably, he probably would, he would say like it would hurt him to try to even hit that hard.
02:54:18.000Well, that doesn't lead to pills always, but pain does.
02:54:22.000Back pain, I think if something's squirrely with driving, and there was that one time that he did get pulled over, there was a video of it, right?
02:54:33.000But, yeah, there's a video of it, and he's blitzing Florida.
02:54:35.000Here's a video of him before the injury, or pictures I should send.
02:54:39.000Where he just falls to his ground in pain?
02:55:08.000If you're not prepared and you don't have the musculature to protect your spine and you start doing wild shit like log lifts and stuff and...
02:55:25.000You also have a big background in not just football, but then in wrestling, jiu-jitsu, and MMA. All these things are requiring you to move your body and keep it strong.
02:55:41.000The problem with people when it comes to backs is they don't treat the back like it's a specific thing that needs to be, like, exercised through a range of motion.
02:55:52.000You have to, like, when I feel good, one of the things that I love to do is I like to smoke a little weed and then stretch.
02:58:27.000But he basically said, like, you could actually strengthen your back by doing, like, low weights and higher reps, but it's, like, real heavy deadlifting.
02:58:40.000Dude, now, like, me, Mark Carly, and Chappelle, we lift, you know, basically four times a week together when we're all in L.A. Every morning at Zoo Culture.
02:58:48.000Now we'll do time sets of 315, sets of 20. 315. We don't go higher than 315. I'm the most lean, strong I've ever been, dude.
02:58:58.000Even when I was fighting, I feel great.
02:58:59.000I'm in better shape now than ever, dude.
03:02:50.000Like, if you know who a person is, and then you know that someone is misrepresenting them intentionally in the media, like with CNN or whatever it is, you look at them and you go, what are they really like?
03:03:02.000Like, who are these people that are running this?
03:03:03.000What kind of weird, petty, woke people are behind the scenes that are doing this?
03:03:08.000And what kind of delusional perspective on reality do they have where they think this is going to work?
03:03:19.000I woke up, and I don't know, I used to getting older and, you know, running a business, and be careful what you ask for with Thickboy Studios.
03:03:26.000You have employees, and you have boss, you know, I'm a boss now.
03:03:29.000Like, there's a lot that goes into it, dude.
03:03:34.000So it's like, you're putting out a million fires, and then, you know, I guess because I'm older, I have kids, like, my anxiety's through the roof, man.
03:03:42.000Like, I woke up this morning because my special, you know?
03:03:45.000Even with the Tough Mudders and everything?
03:03:51.000You know, when things are difficult and there's a lot of unknown, a lot of unknowns factor in when you're doing things that are difficult.
03:03:59.000And that is, you know, especially when you're a father and you're a provider and you have a career and it's kind of a crazy career that you patch together once you are already a professional athlete and then all of a sudden you're doing this podcasting thing.
03:04:26.000It's one of the things I love the most about yoga.
03:04:29.000Is that yoga forces you to just think about your own bullshit while you're going through all these crazy poses and trying to hold them sweating.
03:05:37.000You're just pulling tissue apart and you're getting a feel for things.
03:05:39.000But when you're actually going through poses and holding poses and concentrating on breathing and just concentrating on your balance and you're dripping sweat, there's something about marijuana that makes that magical.
03:05:53.000Getting high and going to yoga is one of the most transcendent experiences a person can have in a normal city without completely losing their fucking mind.
03:09:09.000Hey kids, you want to hear my process of stand-up?
03:09:14.000So I do that, and then I only eat red meat, my cholesterol, and blood pressure to the roof.
03:09:19.000And then I did a workout, and then I was like, and again, I think it's through my years of sports at a high level, and I was just like, you've done your best, man.
03:09:43.000But for a hot second, the anxiety was gone.
03:09:47.000You just got to get through it, and then this is going to be an awesome little milestone for you to show how much better you got from the first one and show that you're working.
03:09:56.000And one thing that's really important to note is that any time you watch anyone do stand-up on a video, that is maybe at its Best, 60 to 70% of what it's like to experience that live.
03:10:12.000I mean, if you think about like Bring the Pain or Bigger and Blacker, two of Chris Rock's earlier masterpieces, can you imagine what it would be like to be there in that audience live while he was filming that and just slaying?
03:10:30.000Bro, you remember when Martin Lawrence was Martin Lawrence?
03:10:55.000And with me, it's like if anyone big from out of town, any major headliner, any movie star, and they're doing stand-up, I'm going on after them.
03:11:14.000I'm telling you, even if she didn't make you do it, I bet you would do it.
03:11:17.000Knowing you, I bet your DNA, you would rise to the occasion.
03:11:21.000Whether it went good or bad, you'd want that for yourself.
03:11:24.000Because you know, with training partners, when I was going through camp, whether it's Cro Cop, Gonzaga, Mitrione, LeVar Johnson, whoever the fuck it is, Ben Rothwell, I would...
03:11:34.000I wouldn't shy away from the toughest challenge because I knew that would make me better.
03:11:38.000So with stand-up, it's like, yeah, let me go after Rogan or Delia or Theo or Joey Diaz.
03:11:43.000I know, like, yeah, it might not go great for me, but I know it's...
03:11:59.000But, you know, he's always on his phone.
03:12:00.000He didn't realize he was following Louis C.K. And he's back, you know, all the comics are watching him, he's still on his phone, you know, whatever the fuck he does.
03:12:52.000Yeah, and it's also like the Louie that you're experiencing now.
03:12:55.000It's like the Louie that had everything taken away from him, and now he's back to what he really is, which is just a really funny, really talented comic.
03:13:03.000All of his craziness in the past, put it aside, when you watch him on stage is a really, really talented stand-up who's only focused on that, not doing other stuff.
03:13:14.000There's only three guys, four, I'd say five, who knows.
03:13:19.000As far as the craft, if you're watching football, it's Tom Brady, you're watching basketball, it's fucking LeBron or whoever.
03:15:09.000Sometimes I'll watch Neil Brennan, the way he writes.
03:15:12.000Britney Schmidt, the way that she writes.
03:15:14.000You look at it and you're like, holy fuck, dude.
03:15:17.000Well, that's the beauty of being surrounded by talented people.
03:15:19.000So you do get to see all these different ways of doing it.
03:15:22.000I just really think that it's important that we respect this thing as an art form because it's kind of like loosely connected to any structure.
03:15:31.000Everybody's just running around, doing their own thing, doing shows.
03:15:35.000And one of the things that I was thinking about with this club is that I just want...
03:15:39.000I want everybody to know that there's something valuable about looking at this as an art form and looking at this as, like, this should be studied.
03:15:49.000And there's a lot of information that we could pass on to each other, and there's a lot of information that we could pass on to people in the future because it's not as documented.
03:15:58.000In terms of the way it's loved, it's not nearly as documented as a lot of the other art forms that are loved.
03:16:04.000Because it's more complicated to achieve success at.
03:16:07.000There's maybe, maybe a thousand comedians on earth worth a fuck.
03:16:36.000And I don't think it's been documented enough.
03:16:39.000I don't think we've spent enough time talking about it amongst each other.
03:16:42.000And in a way that is like where a young person coming up can watch like a whole series of conversations that just pertain to the development of your act, the life of your career, how things emerged, how it started, where you went wrong, where you went right,
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