The Joe Rogan Experience - June 01, 2022


Joe Rogan Experience #1827 - Kristin Beck


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 20 minutes

Words per Minute

200.31227

Word Count

40,196

Sentence Count

3,792

Misogynist Sentences

67


Summary

In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, I sit down with my good friend and long time fan, Dr. Aaron Soto. We talk about Aaron's journey to becoming a doctor, how he got into medicine, and what he believes about life and the universe. We also talk about the moon and how it affects the tides, and if that's real or not. I hope you enjoy this episode, and don't forget to subscribe on your favorite streaming platform so you never miss an episode. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! You can also join our FB group, and use the hashtag to help spread the word about the show. Thanks for listening and Happy Manifesting! -Jon Sorrentino The Joe Rogans Experience is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. Produced in Los Angeles, CA and hosted by Jon and Matt. We are working on transcribing this podcast and putting it on a website and podcasting it on all major podcast directories and social media platforms so you can get exclusive ad-free versions of the show wherever you get the best quality and best sound quality possible. Please rate, review and subscribe to the show, and share it with your friends and family! Thank you for supporting the show! The J.R. Podcast by Jon Rogan Podcast, featuring Jon Rogans and his amazing podcast, The J-Rogan Podcasts Podcast, and all of his fans everywhere! . - Thank you, Jon, for making this podcasting podcast, and much love, support, support and support, and so much more! Joe, for your support, thank you, for being a good time, and good vibes, and for being awesome, and thanks for listening to the J. R. Experience Podcast. -J. ROGAN PODCAST, I appreciate you. , and for supporting me, I really appreciate you, and I'm grateful for you, Thank you so much, for all of your support and respect, I'm so much of you're being kind, I love you, you're beautiful, good vibing, and you're amazing, good day, good night, bye bye, bye, good days, and bye, J. & bye, THANK YOU, MYSELF, MAGIC AND MALAYTER, JOGAN.


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
00:00:16.000 How are you?
00:00:16.000 We're doing this.
00:00:18.000 Nice to meet you.
00:00:19.000 After how many years trying to get this done?
00:00:20.000 Yeah, we talked.
00:00:21.000 I think we first talked like four years ago or something, right?
00:00:23.000 About four years ago.
00:00:24.000 Yeah.
00:00:26.000 I'm so glad we waited, though.
00:00:28.000 Yeah?
00:00:28.000 Because I'll tell you what.
00:00:30.000 Four years ago, I was a mess.
00:00:32.000 Ten years ago, I was a mess.
00:00:33.000 In what way?
00:00:34.000 I just didn't know what I was doing.
00:00:37.000 There's no, like, workbook or a cookbook or there's nothing out there for anybody to, especially me, you know, I was born in the 60s.
00:00:45.000 Right.
00:00:46.000 And so trying to figure out my life with no guidance and nobody out there, it's been a real struggle.
00:00:52.000 I did a real in-depth reading one time with this person who was like a deep, high-up shaman from Malaysia or over there somewhere, maybe the Philippines.
00:01:03.000 But he did a reading.
00:01:04.000 He said, you're going to have a real tough life.
00:01:06.000 How old were you when this happened?
00:01:08.000 This was kind of in the middle of a lot of it.
00:01:10.000 I was just all over the place.
00:01:12.000 One of my friends said, hey, I have this person who I want to give you a gift.
00:01:17.000 He bought me the session with this guy.
00:01:20.000 I guess it was super expensive because I probably couldn't afford it.
00:01:26.000 It was a long reading, too.
00:01:27.000 It was about two hours.
00:01:28.000 The guy really got in depth, asked me a ton of questions, and really got into it.
00:01:31.000 He had all my star charts right down to, like, my geolocation of birth, my exact time, minute.
00:01:37.000 I had all the info for him.
00:01:38.000 And so he worked all that stuff before I did the meeting with him.
00:01:41.000 And so he was going through, like, tons of stuff.
00:01:44.000 And the biggest thing he said...
00:01:45.000 How does that work?
00:01:46.000 How does it, like, the time of birth and the geocodes, like, what are they trying to get out of that?
00:01:51.000 Maybe that's probably where we should start.
00:01:53.000 Stuff that I believe and where my core beliefs lie.
00:01:58.000 I believe there's something.
00:01:59.000 There's a creator, there's a God, whatever you want to name it.
00:02:01.000 There's something way bigger than us.
00:02:03.000 And I believe that.
00:02:05.000 And I also believe that we are energy beings.
00:02:07.000 We're energy, our soul, what we're made of.
00:02:10.000 It's a piece of energy.
00:02:11.000 It's a piece of that.
00:02:13.000 Right.
00:02:13.000 That's how I believe.
00:02:14.000 And so if you have that kind of belief system, you can also believe that everything else is energy.
00:02:19.000 All the animals, all the trees, all the rocks, everything has an energy.
00:02:25.000 Now if you can line all the energy up and get it right down to where you are, imagine all the energy and how it lines up.
00:02:31.000 Right when you're born.
00:02:32.000 Like right when it's happening.
00:02:33.000 So if all those planets, all the earth and everything else is this and this and this, all the energy is set at one location for you.
00:02:40.000 Right at that time.
00:02:42.000 Boom.
00:02:42.000 Okay, now I'm here.
00:02:44.000 It's still going to imprint on you all that energy and all that focus and all that stuff is there, and that's your spot.
00:02:50.000 That's what I believe.
00:02:51.000 Is the idea that the different planets in the different position in the sky, they all have an effect on gravity?
00:02:58.000 We know that it has an effect on...
00:02:59.000 100%.
00:03:00.000 Yeah, we know it has an effect on the tides, right?
00:03:03.000 Isn't that a big part of the tides, is the gravity that comes from the moon?
00:03:07.000 I mean, think about how much fucking water we're talking about.
00:03:09.000 That's a lot.
00:03:09.000 Right?
00:03:10.000 That is kind of crazy.
00:03:11.000 Is that real, though?
00:03:12.000 That's weird, though.
00:03:13.000 I need to know that, if that's real.
00:03:15.000 Is that what causes the tides?
00:03:17.000 I don't think so.
00:03:18.000 A little bit?
00:03:18.000 We'll find out.
00:03:19.000 We're going to find out.
00:03:20.000 Well, gravity is a theory.
00:03:20.000 This is important to find out.
00:03:21.000 The theory of gravity, I mean, I think that's a BS theory anyway.
00:03:25.000 Gravity is a BS theory?
00:03:26.000 I think it all has to do with buoyancy.
00:03:29.000 It's Archimedes, you know?
00:03:30.000 I don't know what you mean.
00:03:31.000 Okay, so Archimedes' principle is basically the buoyancy.
00:03:35.000 If you take your entire body and you put yourself in water, the amount of water you displace is basically that.
00:03:41.000 And the weight of that water you displace, that's your buoyancy.
00:03:44.000 So if you displace more water and it weighs more than you, that means you're lighter than the amount of water you displaced.
00:03:50.000 That means you float.
00:03:51.000 Right.
00:03:51.000 Now, if the water you displaced is less than your weight, then you're going to sink.
00:03:55.000 It's just buoyancy.
00:03:57.000 And so if you drop an apple from 30,000 feet, that's how high we used to jump for SEAL teams, the fun jumps.
00:04:04.000 We can talk about that later.
00:04:05.000 30,000 feet?
00:04:06.000 Yeah, it's fun stuff.
00:04:07.000 That's crazy.
00:04:07.000 But if you drop an apple, yeah.
00:04:09.000 That's like real airplane height, like Delta flight.
00:04:12.000 It's mission.
00:04:12.000 Yeah, Delta.
00:04:13.000 Yeah, like for real.
00:04:14.000 Well, SEAL teams do it too.
00:04:15.000 I know, but I mean American Airlines, Delta, that kind of Delta.
00:04:18.000 Yeah.
00:04:19.000 Those guys are cool though, man.
00:04:20.000 I love the guys at Bragg.
00:04:20.000 So listen to what it says here.
00:04:22.000 I think this is what we're looking for.
00:04:23.000 Okay.
00:04:24.000 So it says, I don't know how you say that word, a perigean?
00:04:28.000 How does it say that?
00:04:29.000 Perigean?
00:04:30.000 Perigean spring.
00:04:32.000 Tide occurs when the moon is either new or full and closest to Earth.
00:04:38.000 And so what does it have to do?
00:04:39.000 Where does it say anything about gravity?
00:04:41.000 Well, I can give you another one, I guess.
00:04:43.000 Does it have anything where it explains the amount of effect that the gravity has?
00:04:48.000 The moon's pull.
00:04:49.000 Okay, so the moon's gravitational pull, high tide, low tide.
00:04:54.000 So during high tide, the moon's gravitational pull does affect the tides?
00:05:00.000 That's what the religion called scientists.
00:05:02.000 This is not an article, though.
00:05:03.000 This is just an image.
00:05:04.000 Is there anything that shows it?
00:05:07.000 I thought that would be a quicker way to go.
00:05:08.000 It seems like there's something to it.
00:05:09.000 We're so dumb, we need cartoons now.
00:05:11.000 I just thought it would be easier to go that way.
00:05:13.000 Joe, all this stuff up there, this is all put out by scientists who have been talking about Copernicus and everything else for the last, you know, however many years since, what, 13 something else?
00:05:24.000 Let's just read what the answer is.
00:05:26.000 It says, high and low tides are caused by the moon.
00:05:28.000 The moon's gravitational pull generates something called the tidal force.
00:05:32.000 The tidal force causes Earth and its water to bulge out on the side closest to the moon and the side furthest from the moon.
00:05:39.000 These bulges of water are high tides.
00:05:42.000 So it is because of gravity, which is amazing.
00:05:45.000 So what I'm getting at is everybody likes to poo-poo the idea that someone can figure out What happens if someone's born during a given time of the year?
00:05:56.000 But if the moon has so much of an effect That it changes tides.
00:06:02.000 It moves...
00:06:03.000 How many fucking gallons of water are we talking about, right?
00:06:07.000 Five or six.
00:06:09.000 It's a lot of goddamn water, and the gravity of the moon is moving that shit.
00:06:15.000 Like, why wouldn't we assume that Jupiter, and what position Jupiter is in the sky, or Mars is in the sky, that all must have some kind of effect on something.
00:06:25.000 And if we're water, we're kind of mostly water, aren't we?
00:06:29.000 Like 60-something percent water?
00:06:30.000 What is the number of percent water people are?
00:06:33.000 We're like 78% or something.
00:06:35.000 It probably affects you.
00:06:36.000 It's a lot, yeah.
00:06:37.000 It probably affects your fucking swimming pool.
00:06:39.000 If you have a swimming pool, it probably moves a little.
00:06:41.000 Well, here's something funny, though.
00:06:42.000 You brought up swimming pool.
00:06:44.000 You know the Great Lakes?
00:06:45.000 How big the Great Lakes are?
00:06:46.000 Yeah.
00:06:47.000 How come none of the Great Lakes have tides?
00:06:50.000 That's a good question.
00:06:51.000 So the moon and the sun can't move the water into Great Lakes, but it can move the oceans?
00:06:54.000 But they do have crazy waves.
00:06:56.000 In adult men, about 60% of their bodies are water.
00:06:59.000 However, fat tissue does not have as much water as lean tissue.
00:07:03.000 In adult women, fat makes up more of the body than men, so they have about 55% of their bodies made of water.
00:07:09.000 That's so true because big muscular guys that cut weight for the UFC, they can cut a lot more weight because they're storing it in their muscles.
00:07:16.000 Yeah.
00:07:17.000 Like big Yoel Romero looking dudes, those guys can cut a ton of weight because they have so much muscle.
00:07:22.000 It's the guys who are leaner that have a really hard time with it.
00:07:25.000 Yeah, that makes sense.
00:07:27.000 Anyway, so this thing is a chart that they do of you and it's based on what time you were born and where in the world you were born.
00:07:34.000 Exactly, yeah, right to geolocation.
00:07:36.000 And so do they match this up with some sort of astronomical map of the stars?
00:07:43.000 I wish I had mine.
00:07:44.000 So he draws a lot out.
00:07:46.000 He does the entire astral plane, all of it, every planet, all of the...
00:07:50.000 Like, even comets.
00:07:51.000 Like, you have everything in there, anything that was in that area for that...
00:07:55.000 Whatever he does.
00:07:56.000 And he reads all of it.
00:07:58.000 And there's, like...
00:08:00.000 Ten things for each one of the planets so you can go and do it, and you put it all together.
00:08:04.000 And so what he was saying was, I'm going to have a really tough life, and I'm going to have to go to the underworld.
00:08:08.000 And do you know what a hayoka is?
00:08:11.000 Sure, yeah.
00:08:11.000 It's a sacred clown.
00:08:13.000 Yeah, it's the name of my comic book.
00:08:14.000 I was just told.
00:08:15.000 Yeah, sacred clown.
00:08:16.000 So when he talked about hayoka, there was also...
00:08:18.000 Explain that to people.
00:08:19.000 You want to explain that, what that concept is?
00:08:20.000 So the concept is, it was not a court jester, because court jesters, all they were doing was being funny and goofy.
00:08:28.000 The Hayokas and the Thales and the Sacred Clowns and all these were actually religious leaders in the community, but also have the ability to speak and say whatever they wanted.
00:08:38.000 And that's like comedians up on stage, when you have like Chappelle and who was Chris Rock and all those other guys.
00:08:45.000 They're up there telling jokes, and we should probably talk about this too later on, maybe about the whole transgender and all the other stuff.
00:08:51.000 People are getting busted for doing jokes, for being a haoka.
00:08:55.000 Haoka's purpose is to mess with our heads a little bit and make us think.
00:08:59.000 Yeah, Lakota's idea was that everything should be tested.
00:09:03.000 And one of the ways to test ideas is to poke at it and make fun of it.
00:09:07.000 Like, there's certain things you can't make fun of.
00:09:10.000 But there's certain things that don't want you to make fun of them.
00:09:14.000 And maybe you should a little bit.
00:09:16.000 It's good for everybody to get made fun of a little bit.
00:09:18.000 It's just, what is the purpose of it in our society today?
00:09:24.000 You know, that's where it becomes like a question.
00:09:26.000 Like, are you allowed to joke around about certain subjects?
00:09:29.000 Or are you going to get upset?
00:09:30.000 And it varies with people, too.
00:09:33.000 It's like, some people don't get upset at all.
00:09:35.000 And some people get furious if you even breach subjects.
00:09:39.000 Which is, I don't think, good for anybody.
00:09:41.000 Well, those people who get so upset about those jokes or about all this stuff, how weak are they that they're going to let that affect them to such a point where they get so angry that they attack?
00:09:54.000 I think people feel different today.
00:09:56.000 You and I are kind of the same age.
00:09:58.000 And I think people feel very different today about their feelings, and they feel very differently today about what it is when someone insults their feelings.
00:10:08.000 When we were kids, it was super normal for people to insult your feelings.
00:10:12.000 And I don't know if that's good or bad because it's like as I get older, one of the things I realized is like my mom was the child of immigrants.
00:10:24.000 And I think like that those generations of people that first came over here, like in the 1940s and the 1920s, They had such a hard, scrabble life, man, that they maybe weren't the nicest people to their kids.
00:10:40.000 It's like there was a lot of beating your kid if your kid did something wrong.
00:10:43.000 Every kid got hit back then.
00:10:45.000 We all got hit.
00:10:45.000 Everybody got hit.
00:10:46.000 And we all deserved it.
00:10:48.000 But it's weird.
00:10:49.000 It's like, I don't think you should hit your children.
00:10:51.000 I think we know now that it's not a good idea because it really perpetuates more violence and it also sends a message that that's the only way to handle something, is to put physical pain inflicted on your child, which I don't necessarily think is the right way to do it.
00:11:06.000 But I do think that there's something about A little bit of adversity.
00:11:12.000 A little bit of disagreement.
00:11:14.000 It makes you more relaxed around that stuff.
00:11:18.000 Whereas with some people today, anything that they think is offensive is such an egregious crime on humanity and they want to attack it with every fiber of their being.
00:11:31.000 What is going on for real, though?
00:11:33.000 You just, like, you have such a hard time with, like, especially the Dave Chappelle special.
00:11:37.000 Like, why don't you tell me what he said that was so awful?
00:11:40.000 Because that was part of the problem, was nobody was saying what specifically he said, which was so horrific.
00:11:46.000 But in this case, they really couldn't, because it was really a love letter to his friend.
00:11:50.000 I mean, that's like, the last part of it is basically, like, he took his friend, who Killed herself, and he put her as the closing piece of a gigantic comedy special that everyone's gonna see.
00:12:02.000 And he did it with dignity, and he did it with kindness, and he did it with true friendship.
00:12:08.000 And it's still, still people are furious.
00:12:12.000 Still.
00:12:13.000 It's just one of those things, man.
00:12:15.000 The concept of the Hayoka, I think we could all use a little of that in our lives.
00:12:20.000 It doesn't mean you have to be mean.
00:12:22.000 Why couldn't everybody use a little bit of it?
00:12:24.000 Yes.
00:12:25.000 Everybody needs it.
00:12:26.000 Everybody needs a little humor.
00:12:29.000 But there was that time, the Sacred Clown, like you were saying, the Hayoka...
00:12:32.000 I think?
00:12:52.000 They all had those positions.
00:12:54.000 You know, it's like James Campbell or Young, the archetypes, you know?
00:13:00.000 Yeah.
00:13:00.000 You always have that medicine person archetype within any culture.
00:13:04.000 And back in those days, that medicine person archetype was part of that poking the bear and making sure the king knew, you're not wearing clothes.
00:13:12.000 Right.
00:13:12.000 You know, hey, you're doing that wrong.
00:13:13.000 Hey, this is messed up.
00:13:15.000 And make a joke out of it.
00:13:16.000 Make it kind of funny.
00:13:17.000 So the king's not offended.
00:13:18.000 And everybody goes, oh, yeah, that is true.
00:13:20.000 Hey.
00:13:20.000 How many jesters do you think were assassinated?
00:13:22.000 Probably a lot.
00:13:24.000 That would be the riskiest job.
00:13:26.000 You're trying to make a fucking king laugh.
00:13:29.000 What if you're annoying and he just decides to kill you in front of everybody?
00:13:33.000 Is that what's happening with cancel culture right now?
00:13:35.000 No.
00:13:36.000 Is cancel culture the king?
00:13:37.000 It's a different thing.
00:13:38.000 But no, it's just the absolute power of a king to just kill somebody if they don't like what they're doing.
00:13:44.000 Like that was one of the weirdest things about Game of Thrones and that kind of shit when they would cut people's heads off and stuff.
00:13:49.000 You'd be like, yeah, I could see people doing that.
00:13:51.000 I could see someone who had total control just killing someone because they don't like their joke.
00:13:55.000 That evil little blond-haired guy.
00:13:57.000 Yeah, that little fuck.
00:13:58.000 Yeah, I can see him do it.
00:14:00.000 Yeah, the sun.
00:14:01.000 Yeah.
00:14:02.000 It's like whatever it is about human nature that There's like certain places that people can go to.
00:14:11.000 Here's a question for you.
00:14:13.000 When you were talking earlier about our age group, so we're like X generation.
00:14:19.000 I'm at the tail end of the baby boomers right at the beginning of X. So we grew up in a community.
00:14:25.000 If we were doing something wrong, any parent in the neighborhood could give you a whack.
00:14:29.000 Everybody was out playing, doing whatever they want, but we were always in these big groups.
00:14:31.000 Yeah, people hit other people's kids.
00:14:33.000 Yeah.
00:14:34.000 It was, but that's what it was, you know?
00:14:36.000 You're going to be out until the street lights turn on and somebody, you know, don't do anything wrong because you're going to get whacked by an older kid or a parent.
00:14:42.000 Yeah, someone was going to straighten you home.
00:14:44.000 But it was a big group.
00:14:45.000 It was like a collective.
00:14:46.000 It was, we had like realities that are different than today's realities.
00:14:50.000 Today, they're so individualistic and they're so, everything is subjective.
00:14:54.000 Everything is relative.
00:14:55.000 And so that makes nothing as true.
00:14:58.000 Because if you think about, if everything's subjective in a subjective reality, what's true?
00:15:04.000 I know what you're saying.
00:15:05.000 So I lived in objective reality.
00:15:07.000 So did you because we grew up in like this very religious, very red, white, and blue America.
00:15:12.000 We're a great country.
00:15:14.000 We don't do everything right, but we're pretty darn good.
00:15:17.000 And that was in all our heads.
00:15:18.000 It was Pledge of Allegiance in the morning.
00:15:19.000 So we all had like this truth, this...
00:15:23.000 Thing that we knew was true.
00:15:25.000 God is there, and God bless America, and America is awesome, and here we are, and let's get on with business.
00:15:33.000 And that's the way I saw it.
00:15:34.000 Now, if you look at the kids growing up today, they don't have any of that.
00:15:39.000 There's no religion anywhere near them, pretty much.
00:15:42.000 They're on social media all the time by themselves, so it's all about individualism.
00:15:46.000 It's all about subjective.
00:15:47.000 It's even going into the words.
00:15:49.000 When we start talking about Gender stuff and some stuff maybe later after we get some of this background stuff down.
00:15:55.000 But they're taking words and they're even making the words subjective.
00:15:59.000 So now we no longer have just male and female.
00:16:03.000 We have a hundred other things.
00:16:05.000 Who knows?
00:16:05.000 In another year or two, it doesn't mean a thousand more genders.
00:16:08.000 Well, isn't that one of those things...
00:16:10.000 It's all subjective.
00:16:11.000 Yeah, but people always want something in their head that other people don't have.
00:16:17.000 And if you could just change names of a thing and decide you're a zur, or you're a...
00:16:24.000 Have you ever seen those TikTok videos where people describe the type of sex they are?
00:16:29.000 Yeah.
00:16:29.000 And they say it with some crazy thing, like, I'm only attracted to someone with one sock on.
00:16:35.000 They'll say that, like, that's the type of sexual they are.
00:16:38.000 One sock of sexual.
00:16:40.000 There's a certain level of indulgence when it gets to that, right?
00:16:46.000 But, like, who are we to draw the line?
00:16:48.000 That's the problem.
00:16:49.000 And it's, like, without that thing, that structure...
00:16:53.000 Of, you know, I believe in God, I believe in country, and I believe in, you know, and the United States is an awesome place.
00:16:59.000 Like, none of those things are bad things to say.
00:17:01.000 But if you say those things, people associate it with bad...
00:17:04.000 It's almost like we're ashamed of ourselves, right?
00:17:07.000 But if you say that to a lot of people in America today, and say it that way, They'll genuinely be almost insulted.
00:17:15.000 It sounds like if they had to say that or they had to think that, they'd be like, I'm not saying that.
00:17:21.000 We've done some horrible things.
00:17:22.000 America's terrible.
00:17:23.000 That's what I said.
00:17:24.000 We've done bad stuff.
00:17:25.000 We're not always right.
00:17:26.000 But overall, we're pretty damn good.
00:17:28.000 There's a lack of an appreciation for that.
00:17:31.000 It's just how humans operate.
00:17:32.000 And it's not that the United States is wholly bad.
00:17:35.000 It's that people are fucked up.
00:17:37.000 This is about as good as it's ever been.
00:17:39.000 This right here, this craziness, this is about as good as people have ever lived.
00:17:45.000 It's fucked up.
00:17:46.000 Yeah, but it isn't because it's not the Mongol hordes.
00:17:50.000 You know, it's not people fighting off barbarians.
00:17:52.000 It's like we were doing better when we had a little bit better, you know, appreciation for law enforcement.
00:17:59.000 And there was there's just it seems like the pandemic fucked a lot of people over, too.
00:18:04.000 It would have been interesting to see where we could have gotten as a culture.
00:18:08.000 Because I think culture accelerates pretty quickly these days.
00:18:11.000 And it would be interesting to see where we would have gotten if it hadn't been for the pandemic.
00:18:16.000 I think we probably wouldn't have been so anxiety-ridden.
00:18:19.000 I think that's a big part of what we're experiencing now is the aftershock of the pandemic.
00:18:25.000 People who lost friends and people who got injured or got wrecked by it.
00:18:30.000 Yeah.
00:18:31.000 There's a lot of that still in the air, like, whoa, what the fuck happened?
00:18:34.000 And then also there's a distrust for like, how did this happen?
00:18:38.000 Tell me the fucking truth.
00:18:39.000 Tell me the truth.
00:18:40.000 How did this fucking happen?
00:18:42.000 I don't trust him.
00:18:43.000 Right.
00:18:43.000 But no one gets this really sure fire.
00:18:47.000 No one presents anything to me where I go, well, that's definitely how it happened.
00:18:52.000 No need to worry about the lab leak.
00:18:54.000 Yeah.
00:18:54.000 Everything seems to mean...
00:18:56.000 It's all hidden and weird.
00:18:57.000 It just seems to make way more sense that it came from a fucking lab.
00:19:01.000 It acts like a virus from a lab.
00:19:03.000 Right?
00:19:03.000 Did you get it?
00:19:04.000 Did you get COVID? I don't know.
00:19:07.000 I don't trust the tests.
00:19:09.000 It's like that PCR test.
00:19:10.000 I don't really know if it's really testing for COVID or a regular flu.
00:19:14.000 Well, that's interesting, right?
00:19:15.000 Isn't there some crossover in the way it tests, like some mistakes?
00:19:21.000 Isn't that the case?
00:19:22.000 Yeah.
00:19:22.000 They did say that.
00:19:24.000 Was that because of the amount of cycles they were running?
00:19:26.000 Because I remember there was a thing where they were saying they were running 40 cycles at one point in time, and then they switched it and lowered it because they were getting too many false positives.
00:19:34.000 Too many false positives, yeah.
00:19:35.000 The guy, Carey Mullis, who invented that PCR, he did not think it was a good idea for testing viruses that way.
00:19:44.000 There's like an interview where he's discussing it.
00:19:46.000 Yeah, and he gives all the technical data.
00:19:48.000 Yeah, it doesn't necessarily mean, because it's so high, you could just find stuff in you.
00:19:54.000 It'll always pop positive.
00:19:55.000 Well, I don't know if always.
00:19:57.000 Unless they dial it way down.
00:19:59.000 Yeah, but you're not at risk for developing the disease necessarily.
00:20:05.000 But it's also, back then, nobody knew.
00:20:08.000 But you nailed it too.
00:20:09.000 It's just like, just tell us something that's true.
00:20:12.000 Something I can hold on to.
00:20:13.000 I don't think they want to tell us that it came from a fucking lab.
00:20:15.000 If they 100% knew it came from a lab, I still think they'd be like, the results are inconclusive.
00:20:21.000 Because it's just too terrifying for people to know that something that killed millions of people came out of a lab.
00:20:29.000 That's wild shit.
00:20:30.000 In the back of our minds, don't we all know it came from a lab?
00:20:35.000 Boy.
00:20:35.000 We've been messing with these viruses and stuff forever.
00:20:37.000 It's the military.
00:20:38.000 I can never say I know for sure, but the people that I've talked to know for sure.
00:20:43.000 Look up Fort Meade.
00:20:44.000 I'm pretty sure it's Fort Meade.
00:20:46.000 But there's stuff that we've done in the U.S. military at all these bio labs since World War I. Well, we've definitely had these crazy labs.
00:20:56.000 We went to visit one.
00:20:57.000 I went to visit one with Duncan Trussell.
00:20:58.000 We went to the one in Galveston, the CDC, whatever it is.
00:21:02.000 Dude, it's terrifying.
00:21:04.000 You're behind all these walls of glass and you get to see people in there with the fucking suits on, there's tubes, you're like, yikes!
00:21:10.000 This is crazy!
00:21:13.000 But you know what he was saying?
00:21:15.000 He was saying the worry is not about someone developing something.
00:21:20.000 It's interesting in retrospect because this was like back in 2012, I think it was.
00:21:24.000 He said the real fear is a natural event, like something happening from agriculture, like a pig farm or something like that.
00:21:33.000 That's where a lot of them come from.
00:21:35.000 He's like, that's what we really have to be worried about.
00:21:39.000 Earlier when we were talking about the kids growing up all that, the one thing that I think that we both spoke about, we didn't say the word, it's just respect.
00:21:46.000 Yeah, that's true, too.
00:21:48.000 That's one thing that people have out here.
00:21:50.000 Kids say so to you.
00:21:52.000 They're very respectful.
00:21:53.000 People raise respectful people out here.
00:21:56.000 Yeah, there's something to that, man.
00:21:57.000 It's like what you were saying about the whole thing about what's missing.
00:22:06.000 You know, is the respectful thing, but also, like, the being upset at almost everything and anything.
00:22:12.000 It's the ability to express yourself so, like, impulsively on a phone.
00:22:16.000 Like, anybody can just express themselves.
00:22:18.000 Then they're in an argument with someone who disagrees.
00:22:20.000 And they're just doing it back and forth all day.
00:22:22.000 That's an unknown entity on the other end of some follow with it.
00:22:25.000 You're not even in my follow group.
00:22:26.000 You're not even part of my circle.
00:22:27.000 I don't care what you say.
00:22:29.000 It's really it's really interesting because there's so much fucking information that's flying around like we were talking about earlier like I don't know if that shit works where they can pinpoint where you were born at the time you were born and figure how it all lines up with the Constellations and have some sort of an effect on you But it doesn't seem totally unreasonable.
00:22:50.000 Man, when he was going over all those charts, I kept going, yeah, that's true.
00:22:53.000 So the charts were like saying that you're going to have a fucked up life because of all the data that they were getting from this reading.
00:23:00.000 Wow.
00:23:00.000 That's wild.
00:23:01.000 Like when he read it through there, he says, you have a couple of paths and it looks like you're going to have a really tough one.
00:23:05.000 This whole area here.
00:23:07.000 And he just kept going through why.
00:23:09.000 And he was showing me the planets and talking through it.
00:23:12.000 It was the craziest couple of hours I've ever had.
00:23:14.000 So when you say you don't believe in gravity, like you really do believe in gravity, right?
00:23:18.000 Oh yeah, gravity exists.
00:23:18.000 I just don't like calling it gravity because it's still a theory.
00:23:22.000 I just think that it's about buoyancy.
00:23:23.000 The reason I'm not going through this floor right now is because I am less dense than this floor.
00:23:28.000 The reason that apple goes through the atmosphere, the apple is heavier than the atmosphere until it gets to the water.
00:23:34.000 But it's lighter than the water for, you know, if you do Archimedes Principle on all of it, everything can be explained by buoyancy.
00:23:42.000 I see what you're saying, but both maybe.
00:23:46.000 Maybe both.
00:23:47.000 Yeah.
00:23:48.000 But that unknown force, we got rid of...
00:23:50.000 For sure.
00:23:51.000 Like, we had the apple displaces the air.
00:23:53.000 Yeah.
00:23:53.000 Yeah, and falls to the ground.
00:23:54.000 But it's also getting sucked into the ground by gravity.
00:23:57.000 Like, both those things are real.
00:23:59.000 Something else is going on.
00:24:01.000 Something else?
00:24:01.000 I think it's like the ether.
00:24:04.000 And it was something that Tesla went into really big, too, was that other substance.
00:24:09.000 And then Einstein, I think, is the one that messed all this up.
00:24:12.000 Because they started changing the name of it and trying to write away the ether.
00:24:15.000 And it had a few different names for it.
00:24:17.000 But it's basically the stuff that's in between all the atoms.
00:24:22.000 Do they know what causes gravity?
00:24:24.000 Can they tell you exactly what causes gravity?
00:24:27.000 They know it has to do with mass, right?
00:24:28.000 They cannot explain gravity.
00:24:30.000 What did you say, Jamie?
00:24:31.000 Don't look at me if I sweat.
00:24:32.000 I don't know.
00:24:32.000 Come on, scientist.
00:24:33.000 You're the guy who got an A in physics.
00:24:36.000 Well, I mean, isn't it a thing where they can measure, like, they can look at the mass of a planet and they can say how much gravity, like, right?
00:24:45.000 Isn't that true?
00:24:46.000 There's formulas for this stuff, yes.
00:24:48.000 Isn't that why the Earth, like when you go to the moon, you're really light?
00:24:51.000 Because the moon has like one-sixth Earth's gravity?
00:24:53.000 If you have the planet right here, it's going to cause the...
00:24:57.000 For the folks that are just listening, Kristen made a draw.
00:25:02.000 There's a time-space continuum in all these planes of space.
00:25:05.000 They bend when they go around that object.
00:25:08.000 And so the space actually bends around the Earth and then it gets flat again.
00:25:13.000 So it makes a hole right here.
00:25:14.000 Okay, so if it's a bigger object, then it's a bigger curve?
00:25:18.000 It's a bigger object, it'll be a bigger hole, yeah.
00:25:19.000 And so that'll make more gravity?
00:25:20.000 That'll be this, more gravity here.
00:25:22.000 So if you're here and you start falling in a hole that it makes, you're going to fall into that gravity hole right here.
00:25:29.000 That's how it was explained by Einstein and I think it was also by Hawking and a bunch of other ones.
00:25:34.000 They all talked about how the time-space was full.
00:25:38.000 It bends when it has that large mass.
00:25:42.000 Well, you know, that's what Bob Lazar said those spaceships do.
00:25:46.000 Those spaceships that they were trying to back-engineer.
00:25:49.000 He said they're working off of this element called element 115. It was just theoretical.
00:25:56.000 It wasn't even proven that it was a real element until sometime in the 2000s.
00:26:01.000 But he was saying this in like 1989. It was like they have a stable form of this element 115. It sits in a reactor in the craft.
00:26:09.000 And what this thing does, he said, he likened it to taking a bowling ball and placing it in the center of a mattress.
00:26:17.000 So the mattress, it bends the gravity and instantaneously propels you to a place.
00:26:25.000 That's cool.
00:26:26.000 And they were trying to figure out how to make it work.
00:26:28.000 I want to read on that one.
00:26:29.000 It's wild shit, man.
00:26:30.000 Because if they can do that, and why wouldn't we assume that that's the next form of travel?
00:26:35.000 If they really do know that at least theoretically it's possible to bend space.
00:26:40.000 To bend space.
00:26:41.000 It's theoretically possible.
00:26:43.000 Like, there was a movie.
00:26:44.000 What was it?
00:26:45.000 The Event Horizon.
00:26:46.000 You remember that one?
00:26:47.000 It was like a monster movie in space, and that was the thing.
00:26:50.000 They were going to be the first people to do it.
00:26:52.000 And so the way they described it in the movie, it's like you would take a piece of paper, fold it in half, put a pencil through the center of them, and then unfold it.
00:26:59.000 And you'd go instantaneously through all that space.
00:27:01.000 You'd just have to pick the first two spots.
00:27:03.000 Get to spots.
00:27:05.000 There's a lot of cool stuff.
00:27:07.000 They're going to do that someday.
00:27:08.000 There's something going on besides just the theory of gravity and the mass and all that.
00:27:13.000 There's other things going on.
00:27:15.000 And I think that's what Tesla was trying to tap into.
00:27:17.000 A lot of the other ones that think about the energy fields that are all around us.
00:27:21.000 So there's gravity and there's a bunch of other stuff.
00:27:23.000 There's magnetism and there's a lot of other stuff going on.
00:27:25.000 So it's not just one force because the middle of the earth has a magma and its iron core spinning.
00:27:31.000 It's like, how does that work?
00:27:33.000 But they do know that these planets have a pull on other planets.
00:27:38.000 They do know that.
00:27:40.000 So there's obviously something going on to the theory of gravity.
00:27:43.000 Like there's something going on to large objects pulling things towards them.
00:27:47.000 That's because that's why Jupiter saves us.
00:27:49.000 Because if it wasn't for the gravity of Jupiter, we'd be fucked.
00:27:52.000 Because so many asteroids go slamming into Jupiter because it just sucks them in.
00:27:56.000 It protects us.
00:27:56.000 Yeah, it's bigger than us.
00:27:58.000 What was that Van Allen belt?
00:28:00.000 The Van Allen radiation belts.
00:28:01.000 The radiation belts.
00:28:02.000 Yeah, that's not protecting us from...
00:28:05.000 But how does that...
00:28:05.000 If you go to the moon, you have to go through those radiation belts, right?
00:28:09.000 Well, the way they described it is like it's like a hula hoop, or like, not a hula hoop, like a barrel, but with no top and no bottom, and you can shoot out the top.
00:28:19.000 So that's what they do, they shoot out the top.
00:28:20.000 And they shoot out the top, and apparently you don't have to go through the Van Allen radiation belts.
00:28:25.000 So it'd be at the North and South Pole?
00:28:26.000 But then I've heard shit that if you go through the belts, you can go through the belts because it's a short amount of time with high exposure if you have a certain amount of protection.
00:28:34.000 I don't know.
00:28:35.000 We're going deep into space and stuff.
00:28:36.000 Well, it's kind of freaky shit because I've talked to people about it.
00:28:41.000 I said, well, there's a lot of micrometeors out in space, right?
00:28:46.000 And they're like, oh yeah, they're all over the place.
00:28:48.000 Well, what happens if you're in a rocket ship and you're going to the moon?
00:28:52.000 And you encounter a micrometeor and it hits the craft.
00:28:54.000 He's like, well, you're fucking dead.
00:28:55.000 I was like, should you just take a chance?
00:28:57.000 Like, you have to.
00:28:58.000 Yes, you do.
00:29:00.000 I mean, like a small thing the size of a marble would nuke a fucking spaceship.
00:29:04.000 Yeah.
00:29:05.000 Right?
00:29:05.000 Wouldn't it?
00:29:06.000 Oh, yeah.
00:29:06.000 You'd think.
00:29:07.000 I would think so.
00:29:07.000 Going how fast they're going.
00:29:08.000 They've had some holes in the space station, right?
00:29:11.000 Haven't they?
00:29:13.000 Because they're just floating around up there.
00:29:14.000 I think every now and then they get whacked by stuff.
00:29:16.000 There's gotta be holes in that thing.
00:29:17.000 Do you remember that movie with Sandra Bullock?
00:29:20.000 Yeah.
00:29:20.000 Remember that movie where a little piece of junk from space slams into their...
00:29:23.000 I started watching that.
00:29:25.000 I just couldn't get through it.
00:29:26.000 No?
00:29:26.000 I started watching it.
00:29:27.000 I was like, man, this is...
00:29:28.000 Oh, look at that.
00:29:29.000 Piece of space junk.
00:29:30.000 Boom!
00:29:31.000 Damages the space station.
00:29:32.000 Just punched a fucking hole through it.
00:29:34.000 Jeez.
00:29:36.000 That stuff's just floating around up there.
00:29:37.000 We left a bunch of shit up there.
00:29:40.000 Golf balls and weird stuff.
00:29:42.000 Do you know how many satellites supposed to be flying around?
00:29:45.000 It is so crazy that we did that without any, like, thought of, like, what happens in the future when these things start crashing into each other.
00:29:53.000 Too much junk up there.
00:29:54.000 I mean, how much...
00:29:55.000 What is, like, the worldwide number of satellites, if you had to guess?
00:30:00.000 Take a guess.
00:30:01.000 Shit.
00:30:03.000 100,000?
00:30:05.000 I bet you're right.
00:30:06.000 I bet it's about that.
00:30:07.000 No, I bet it's more.
00:30:09.000 I bet it's 200,000.
00:30:11.000 Oh, we have all those little microsatellites, too.
00:30:14.000 In the SEAL teams, we had our own little microsatellites we could shoot up.
00:30:16.000 How big are those?
00:30:18.000 It's classified.
00:30:19.000 Oh, really?
00:30:20.000 No, there's some small ones, though.
00:30:22.000 There are some real small ones that we can shoot out.
00:30:24.000 100,000?
00:30:25.000 Yeah.
00:30:27.000 According to the internet, I don't know the source.
00:30:32.000 There's like 8,000 at the most I'm seeing.
00:30:34.000 That's it?
00:30:35.000 Yeah.
00:30:35.000 Really?
00:30:36.000 I'm currently flying.
00:30:37.000 Somewhere between 6,500 and 8,200.
00:30:40.000 Oh, interesting.
00:30:41.000 In history?
00:30:42.000 No, no, no, just current, like, at the moment.
00:30:44.000 Just flying up there right now.
00:30:45.000 Yeah, I was looking into space debris and how much stuff is all total up there, but I think that's, like, working fast.
00:30:50.000 In history, there's got to be 100,000.
00:30:52.000 You think they shoot stuff up there all the time.
00:30:54.000 Well, they didn't really start until the 60s, though, right?
00:30:58.000 Is that when they started putting satellites up there?
00:31:00.000 When did they start doing that?
00:31:02.000 Yeah, they had to be able to carry stuff.
00:31:04.000 Well, they probably started shooting shit before people, obviously, right?
00:31:08.000 I think so.
00:31:09.000 I don't know.
00:31:10.000 Well, Sputnik was the first one, so Sputnik was 59 or 60-something.
00:31:14.000 You ever see the movie Sputnik?
00:31:16.000 No.
00:31:16.000 It's fucking dope.
00:31:18.000 It's pretty cool.
00:31:18.000 It's a Russian horror movie about these guys, these Russian cosmonauts that encounter an alien and then bring it back to the base.
00:31:26.000 It's really fucking good.
00:31:27.000 It's all dubbed...
00:31:31.000 Sputnik.
00:31:32.000 That's the first one, 1957. Since then, 8,900 satellites from 40 countries have been launched.
00:31:38.000 Wow.
00:31:38.000 God, I thought it was way more than that.
00:31:39.000 5,000 remain in orbit.
00:31:40.000 I thought it was way more, too.
00:31:42.000 5,000 remain in orbit.
00:31:43.000 Of those 1,900 are operational.
00:31:44.000 Yo, that means 3,900 fell from the fucking sky?
00:31:48.000 They're still up there.
00:31:49.000 Jesus.
00:31:49.000 Oh, they're still up there.
00:31:51.000 Or both.
00:31:51.000 Or a little mixture of both.
00:31:52.000 Oh, so they didn't fall from the sky?
00:31:54.000 They probably would burn up, though, on their way in, right?
00:31:56.000 I wonder.
00:31:57.000 I mean, I wouldn't bet on it.
00:32:00.000 Do they always burn up?
00:32:02.000 Don't chunks of them fall to the ground?
00:32:04.000 That's interesting.
00:32:06.000 Maybe they design them.
00:32:07.000 They mostly burn up.
00:32:08.000 Maybe they design them to burn up.
00:32:09.000 Because they don't have the deflector shields and all the ceramic stuff on them.
00:32:13.000 So they really suggest going through the atmosphere?
00:32:16.000 Probably just burn up, yeah.
00:32:16.000 They would have no protection.
00:32:18.000 How wild is that?
00:32:19.000 They go so fast, they burst into flames.
00:32:21.000 Yes, 60% of the rocket bodies and 60 to 90% of satellite mass burn up during atmospheric re-injury.
00:32:29.000 That's still 30% and 10% of rocks coming from fucking space hitting you in the head.
00:32:35.000 That seems kind of crazy.
00:32:37.000 That'd be a terrible way to die, too.
00:32:39.000 Oh my god, hit by a satellite?
00:32:40.000 I don't want to die by a satellite.
00:32:42.000 Have you seen that movie, Sputnik, Jamie?
00:32:43.000 No.
00:32:44.000 I think it's closed caption, now that I'm thinking about it.
00:32:47.000 I don't think it's dubbed.
00:32:48.000 Was it a straight-to-DVD movie?
00:32:49.000 I think it was one of those movies that...
00:32:52.000 2020?
00:32:53.000 Yeah.
00:32:53.000 Oh, new.
00:32:54.000 I was flipping through iTunes movies, and I just clicked on it.
00:33:00.000 I was like, what is this?
00:33:01.000 And then it had good reviews.
00:33:04.000 And so I watched it, but it's really fucking good, man.
00:33:08.000 It's very interesting, very unique movie.
00:33:11.000 That's cool.
00:33:15.000 It's very Russian, but it's not like any horror movie I've ever seen before.
00:33:21.000 It's like a complete original.
00:33:23.000 And the storyline behind it is really fascinating.
00:33:26.000 It's like they wanted to contain this thing and do something with it, which is, I think, exactly what people would do if we encountered something from another planet.
00:33:38.000 I don't think they'd tell us about it.
00:33:40.000 They probably would never tell us.
00:33:41.000 They wouldn't tell us.
00:33:42.000 Joe Biden ain't telling us shit.
00:33:44.000 He would lie.
00:33:45.000 He wouldn't tell us about aliens.
00:33:48.000 Hopefully we didn't get in trouble.
00:33:50.000 They seem to be talking about it a lot lately, which I tell you makes me more suspicious.
00:33:56.000 They're prepping us for Project Bluebeam.
00:33:59.000 I feel like I'm being fucked with.
00:34:02.000 The CIA and NSA and the DEA, they're all telling you about UFOs?
00:34:09.000 Well, you know what Project Bluebeam is.
00:34:11.000 What is Project Bluebeam?
00:34:13.000 Project Bluebeam.
00:34:14.000 I knew about Blue Book.
00:34:16.000 So it's a UFO project.
00:34:19.000 It's basically, they didn't really want UFOs.
00:34:21.000 They wanted it to be like a religious something up in the sky so they can take all these lasers and whatever they're doing.
00:34:27.000 I think they even use UAVs now.
00:34:29.000 So they fly them all around there and they can make full solid looking objects in the sky.
00:34:35.000 Really?
00:34:36.000 Anywhere they want.
00:34:37.000 So if you throw that one up there, Project Bluebeam.
00:34:40.000 My thoughts on this whole UFO thing lately have been like the more they talk about it, the more I think it's fake.
00:34:46.000 The more they admit that they can't, we have no idea, these do not come from an earthly source.
00:34:51.000 But they're prepping us.
00:34:52.000 They're going to get us ready for Bluebeam, and when they do it, they're going to go, see, I told you, UFOs!
00:34:57.000 And everybody's scared.
00:34:58.000 I think they can make stuff now that looks like UFOs.
00:35:02.000 I think they have drones now, I bet, that are like UFOs.
00:35:05.000 I bet that's a lot of what we're going to see.
00:35:08.000 I don't think you can...
00:35:09.000 You can't know how advanced some military technology is.
00:35:16.000 Because it's so interesting how they do it.
00:35:18.000 It's like, even though they have a budget, it's like, how much do they?
00:35:23.000 Spent.
00:35:23.000 We don't fucking know.
00:35:25.000 We don't have any say.
00:35:26.000 Imagine if you could vote on what you want your money going to.
00:35:31.000 How much do you want your money going to military?
00:35:34.000 How much do you want your money to go into education?
00:35:36.000 How much to infrastructure?
00:35:38.000 And you could just vote that way.
00:35:40.000 And everybody could vote not just for a candidate, but vote for the percentage of your own personal money that you want to go.
00:35:47.000 You have to pay the same amount of taxes, but you can choose.
00:35:50.000 You can say, hey, I'm opposed to war, so I don't want to donate to that.
00:35:54.000 Or I'm opposed to education.
00:35:55.000 I want people stupid.
00:35:56.000 I'm not going to vote for that.
00:36:01.000 That would be ideal, right?
00:36:03.000 Because then representatives could never not represent their constituents.
00:36:09.000 That wouldn't be on the table.
00:36:12.000 So then you'd have to figure out what to do with that money because if you need more money for prisons or you need more money for cops or you need more money for teachers, you should now make the case.
00:36:23.000 So if everybody gets to vote for everything, that would be really interesting.
00:36:27.000 That'd be cool.
00:36:28.000 The problem is people don't have time to learn about stuff.
00:36:31.000 You know, if you're voting for, like, if there's anything that involves finances, most people have your eyes glaze over, you're barely paying attention to interest rates.
00:36:41.000 I was trying to think of what kind of government would that be called?
00:36:45.000 It's interesting.
00:36:46.000 Representative government.
00:36:47.000 A representative technocracy?
00:36:50.000 Yeah.
00:36:50.000 Because we are a technocracy right now, you can't deny it.
00:36:53.000 Yeah, we're definitely, and it's interesting because I think these entities that became a part of the technocracy, these immense tech companies, It was not their idea to do this.
00:37:05.000 Twitter was just trying to come up with a thing where you could talk to your friends.
00:37:11.000 Facebook was like, I just want to hook up with somebody.
00:37:13.000 Or meet friends from high school and meet back up with them.
00:37:18.000 You remember that when people would put like, at Jamie Vernon is going to have pizza?
00:37:25.000 Do you remember the earliest days of Twitter?
00:37:26.000 That's what people would do.
00:37:28.000 Now imagine that that stupid thing would go on to be like the number one source of information and...
00:37:36.000 Of propaganda.
00:37:37.000 Well, propaganda too, but also of conversations.
00:37:41.000 Like the amount of information that gets exchanged and the amount of people interact with each other on Twitter.
00:37:46.000 It's crazy.
00:37:47.000 Yeah, it'd be cool to see the numbers.
00:37:49.000 It's nuts.
00:37:50.000 I don't even think they know the numbers.
00:37:52.000 That's what's holding up this Elon Musk deal.
00:37:54.000 What's crazy?
00:37:54.000 Yeah, those numbers are crazy.
00:37:56.000 Well, they don't know the numbers of the fake accounts.
00:37:58.000 Is that going to end up being something with the SEC, that they were given false numbers?
00:38:03.000 I don't know.
00:38:04.000 I don't know how that works.
00:38:06.000 I don't know if they know, because it's not whether or not they're false, it's whether or not the method they use to find out is the most effective method.
00:38:17.000 But if Twitter knew it had false accounts, and it had a lot of other false data going through there, and they were saying these are our numbers, they were given false numbers to the SEC. Perhaps, but I don't think that would be with their knowledge.
00:38:29.000 It's very complicated, because how do you prove that an account is real?
00:38:34.000 And there's also a problem, there's people that have real accounts, but they use them like they're not a real account.
00:38:40.000 So they have a real account, and they log in, but they don't post at all.
00:38:43.000 They just read stuff, which is fine, right?
00:38:45.000 Yeah, it's true.
00:38:46.000 But some people don't want to interact with people.
00:38:48.000 They'd just rather just read other people's opinions on things.
00:38:50.000 Those people would be treated as if they have a fake account.
00:38:53.000 So it's like, how do we know?
00:38:55.000 Is there a way to know?
00:38:57.000 And I think Elon has proposed some way to know, but I don't know what that is.
00:39:02.000 But the way they do it, it's like...
00:39:06.000 I don't know if you're accurate or not.
00:39:08.000 I don't think they know.
00:39:09.000 There's accounts that are fake accounts that are these internet research agency accounts that they're like indistinguishable from regular people.
00:39:17.000 They're posting memes.
00:39:19.000 Yeah, they're posting memes.
00:39:21.000 They're commenting on stuff.
00:39:22.000 They're getting people to comment on stuff for the account and they, you know, they seem real reasonable or they act like a normal person and they're just literally like, it's a fucking, it's not even AI, man.
00:39:33.000 It's like a room full of people are doing this.
00:39:36.000 The farms.
00:39:37.000 Yeah, it's wild.
00:39:39.000 Because you can find tweets where you see the same exact wording in multiple accounts.
00:39:44.000 You're like, whoa, what the fuck is going on here?
00:39:47.000 And then you realize, oh my god, these are bots.
00:39:49.000 This is crazy.
00:39:50.000 How many of them are there?
00:39:51.000 I have a couple of accounts.
00:39:53.000 And I run my accounts differently.
00:39:55.000 One, I run it super conservative.
00:39:57.000 And I have another one I run it super liberal.
00:39:59.000 On purpose?
00:40:00.000 Yeah.
00:40:01.000 That's interesting.
00:40:02.000 Because you should have multiple accounts.
00:40:04.000 Because what happens is there's an underlying program.
00:40:07.000 I'm just going to call it the Moonraker.
00:40:09.000 So there's an underlying program under everything, and it's a government program.
00:40:13.000 And in that government program, as soon as it starts seeing keywords, it will start pigeonholing you into certain data fields.
00:40:22.000 And it does it.
00:40:23.000 It's like super deep web complicated program, but it will pigeonhole you.
00:40:28.000 And so if you start running something really conservative and making comments and really hitting it hard, you know, on all that stuff and liking it, your account will become more and more conservative.
00:40:37.000 If you have a liberal account and you're doing a lot of liberal stuff on there, and I'm saying Democrat, GOP, whatever, left, right, I do it because I want all the data.
00:40:46.000 So I want the knowledge.
00:40:48.000 And the thing is, if you're going to start pigeonholing me because of stuff I say, then I want to be pigeonholed as far as I can get on that one account.
00:40:56.000 And then same thing for the other one.
00:40:58.000 Do you have a centrist account?
00:41:00.000 Yeah, I do.
00:41:00.000 Do you have three accounts?
00:41:02.000 And there's also a place out there, it's a website, where it actually takes left, center, and right, and it gives you the data from all those places.
00:41:11.000 It's a really cool comparison website, and it does it for politics.
00:41:14.000 That's a weird thing about the whole algorithm, that it does sort of curate information.
00:41:19.000 It will.
00:41:20.000 And it kind of promotes the echo chamber mentality.
00:41:23.000 Echo chamber.
00:41:23.000 That's what I was trying to get through.
00:41:25.000 Because that's what you're into, so that's what it gives you.
00:41:27.000 And it gives you things that you get upset by because those are the things you engage with the most.
00:41:33.000 So can you imagine if I only had one of those accounts?
00:41:36.000 So if all I had was a conservative account and that program I was moonraked into all of that area, I'm going to see so much anti-left and so much other stuff and everything I'm being fed is going to make me angrier and angrier against the opposite.
00:41:52.000 And it goes both ways.
00:41:54.000 Algorithms are very interesting.
00:41:56.000 Because I could see how it would help in some ways.
00:42:00.000 Like it'll suggest things to you that are interesting, that might be right up your alley.
00:42:07.000 And that would be good.
00:42:09.000 And you enjoy the site more.
00:42:10.000 It's a better product for you.
00:42:11.000 But then there's the other thing it does when it comes to opinions.
00:42:15.000 And it locks you in.
00:42:16.000 100%.
00:42:17.000 Yeah, and it also seems to—that sort of engagement is almost like it's instigating bullshit, instigating disagreements.
00:42:27.000 It totally does.
00:42:28.000 Yeah.
00:42:28.000 And that's why I don't understand what the reason—what would—why?
00:42:33.000 Because I think they didn't anticipate it.
00:42:35.000 I think they thought it was going to do the first thing.
00:42:37.000 I think they thought...
00:42:38.000 Everybody's looking for some insidious plan, but I think it's just human nature.
00:42:42.000 And I think what they were doing was showing you the things that you engage with the most.
00:42:47.000 So my friend Ari Shafir, he did an experiment, and he only viewed puppy videos on YouTube.
00:42:55.000 And all YouTube would show him was videos of puppies.
00:42:58.000 Because that's what he asked for.
00:42:59.000 But he just did it for an experiment, as did you.
00:43:06.000 But if you're that person that clicks on those kind of shows, it's just going to show you that stuff.
00:43:11.000 But it's not that it's insidious.
00:43:13.000 It was designed, I think, to enhance the experience.
00:43:16.000 So if you like watching European football, So you're looking for these matches, and then all of a sudden it's suggesting all sorts of other matches, and it's like, oh, this is great.
00:43:27.000 I don't even have to look for them.
00:43:28.000 They're right there in front of me.
00:43:29.000 It helps you engage the platform more.
00:43:31.000 But then people are so crazy that what we want to do is get upset by stuff.
00:43:36.000 And even though the world outside, like Bill Hicks used to have a great joke about that, about watching CNN, and about like, you know, they were talking, AIDS, disease, death, everyone's gonna die.
00:43:46.000 You know, you'll never live to be a hundred.
00:43:48.000 And I forget what the joke was.
00:43:50.000 Then he would open up the door and look outside and be like, where the fuck is all this shit happening?
00:43:54.000 Where's all the death?
00:43:54.000 This bird's tweeting and it's like there's a thing that happens if you focus only on negativity.
00:44:03.000 Yeah.
00:44:04.000 If you only focus on negativity, it's very bad for you.
00:44:09.000 You can get too much information, and it's not how you're supposed to live as a human.
00:44:15.000 You're not supposed to interface with seven billion people's worth of bullshit.
00:44:20.000 It's just too much.
00:44:22.000 You literally can't exist like that.
00:44:24.000 It's terrible for you.
00:44:26.000 And there's a lot of people who do that.
00:44:28.000 And that is one of the things that's heightened us on top of the pandemic.
00:44:33.000 So you have the pandemic that fucked everybody up, and then you have this social media that's sort of naturally accelerating everybody's anxiety and freaking everybody out.
00:44:42.000 And it's closing in all our echo chambers.
00:44:44.000 Yeah.
00:44:44.000 So if all we're hearing is that one point of view, we're going to really hate the other side.
00:44:50.000 Yeah, that's terrible.
00:44:50.000 I just think that's what we fell into.
00:44:51.000 Our whole country is falling into that trap.
00:44:54.000 There's a lot of people that I knew that were pretty reasonable people that during the pandemic especially just ramped things up to such an extreme.
00:45:03.000 You're like, my God, man, are you okay?
00:45:06.000 You're so political.
00:45:07.000 I go to their Twitter page and it's just filled with politics stuff.
00:45:12.000 Like, what are you doing?
00:45:14.000 It's a whole world, though.
00:45:15.000 It's a world.
00:45:16.000 It's like a baseball fan.
00:45:18.000 It's the worst.
00:45:19.000 You know what I mean?
00:45:20.000 Baseball fans like to read off stats.
00:45:22.000 These fucking political people, they get really political.
00:45:24.000 It's like, man, you're almost like a sports fan.
00:45:27.000 You're a sports fan for the Democrats.
00:45:29.000 Maybe it is.
00:45:29.000 Maybe that's their team.
00:45:30.000 Hey, go team.
00:45:31.000 I really think that's what it is.
00:45:33.000 I think there's a real problem in having parties at all.
00:45:36.000 I think you should just have people with ideas.
00:45:38.000 Because I think when you have parties, it just makes people want to...
00:45:42.000 Like, if you're on one side, you don't like the other side.
00:45:45.000 You don't listen to their reasonable ideas.
00:45:47.000 Fuck them.
00:45:48.000 They're the enemy.
00:45:49.000 We're gonna crush them.
00:45:50.000 Come November.
00:45:51.000 You know, and it's like that's probably not healthy.
00:45:55.000 It's probably not healthy for the country because people naturally tend to gravitate towards a team that accepts them, whatever it is.
00:46:02.000 You know, like you pretend you like things to get in with the cool crowd.
00:46:06.000 People do that.
00:46:07.000 They do it all the time.
00:46:08.000 Yeah, and that's a natural tendency for human beings to want to be connected to a tribe.
00:46:12.000 Yeah.
00:46:13.000 And it's like you don't necessarily want that.
00:46:17.000 You kind of want to be able to have a lot of ideas in your head.
00:46:20.000 Yeah.
00:46:20.000 You don't want to have to be like, if I believe in this, I believe in that, because it's a part of my tribe.
00:46:26.000 And you hear it from all sides.
00:46:26.000 Yeah.
00:46:27.000 Maybe I believe in this, but I think that's dumb.
00:46:29.000 Maybe I think you guys are a little oversensitive.
00:46:32.000 Yeah.
00:46:33.000 Have you ever heard of loose traps?
00:46:35.000 Loose traps?
00:46:36.000 Loose.
00:46:36.000 L-O-O-S-H. No.
00:46:39.000 Loose trap.
00:46:40.000 What is that?
00:46:41.000 That's a little bit about what I was talking about when we get into those echo chambers and we get all the negativity and when that underlying program is constantly feeding us all the information to make us deeper and deeper into our own...
00:46:55.000 You know, nihilistic, you know, self, everything.
00:46:58.000 It's just, it's our way to pull in all the data.
00:47:01.000 So the loose trap is a, it's a negative, it's piling on all the negative feelings and negative information and making people get, ah, that anxiety, that angst, that anger.
00:47:12.000 And so the loose is actually, it's probably going into religion and spirituality a little bit.
00:47:17.000 But if you believe That there's good in the world, and you also kind of have to believe that there's also the opposite.
00:47:24.000 If you believe that good energy can heal, like there was that one experiment they did at some university or somewhere where everybody got around a thing of water, and they give good vibrations and good energy to the water.
00:47:38.000 Then they studied the water under a microscope, and the water was in this really cool geometric shape.
00:47:43.000 And they did the same experiment with some water, and they were angry at it and yelling at it and being mean to it, and the water was all discombobulated and weird-looking.
00:47:50.000 I saw that, but I didn't know if that was bullshit.
00:47:52.000 I was always going to ask you, Jamie, to look that up.
00:47:54.000 That'd be a good one to look up, because tell you what, and because we're so much water- If that's real, that's crazy.
00:48:00.000 67% water?
00:48:01.000 But if it's not real, that might be just as crazy.
00:48:03.000 It shows how crazy people are that would make something like that up.
00:48:06.000 That's almost more interesting.
00:48:07.000 I really think it's true.
00:48:08.000 Yeah, but I wish it wasn't true now because then it's even more fascinating that someone would make something like that up.
00:48:14.000 Dude, I went for like forever, for a long time, believing that the sky was filled with these flying worms.
00:48:26.000 This is how stupid I am, Kristen.
00:48:27.000 Listen to me.
00:48:28.000 Wait, you're freaking me out now.
00:48:29.000 This is how dumb I am.
00:48:30.000 I was getting baked with my friend Eddie, Eddie Bravo, and we would watch these documentaries on these things called rods.
00:48:38.000 This is one of the dumbest things I've ever done.
00:48:40.000 And I mean, I spent many hours watching these things.
00:48:42.000 Like, this is incredible.
00:48:43.000 You can only capture them with high-speed cameras.
00:48:47.000 That's not true at all.
00:48:49.000 What it really is, is when you have a camera that's filming, like unless it's a super high-speed camera, when a bug flies across it, it shows like a trail.
00:49:00.000 It doesn't just show a bug that's moving across the stream.
00:49:03.000 But when they have like a 4K camera, like one of those high-definition cameras, then you see it's just a bug.
00:49:09.000 So this show called, I think it was Monster Hunters, they showed it on TV. I'm like, God damn it, I'm so dumb.
00:49:15.000 There's worms everywhere.
00:49:15.000 I believe that there was flying worms in the sky.
00:49:19.000 That's awesome.
00:49:19.000 There's a video of these guys jumping into a cave.
00:49:22.000 They're parachuting down into a cave in Mexico.
00:49:25.000 And as they're doing it, these things fly by.
00:49:27.000 These things fly under them.
00:49:28.000 And it looks so real.
00:49:30.000 Like, if you're dumb like me and you don't understand exposures and cameras, see if you can find that because it's so stupid.
00:49:36.000 Dude, for fucking years I believed this.
00:49:38.000 At least a solid two years I thought this was real.
00:49:41.000 I watched hours of those documentaries.
00:49:44.000 I have to look back at my memory and what was something that I believed that was just totally off the ball?
00:49:48.000 That's the dumbest one.
00:49:49.000 That's the dumbest one of things I believed.
00:49:51.000 I think the Bigfoot one.
00:49:52.000 I believed Bigfoot for a long time.
00:49:54.000 But I think Bigfoot used to be real.
00:49:56.000 That's what I think.
00:49:57.000 I think there's too many Native American words for that animal.
00:50:03.000 But there's also South American words, and there's words in Siberia.
00:50:06.000 There's also a real animal that existed with humans.
00:50:09.000 It's called the Gigantopithecus, and it was in the orangutan family, and it was somewhere around eight feet, ten feet tall.
00:50:17.000 It was huge!
00:50:18.000 There's a photo of what it would look like, because it was a bipedal hominid.
00:50:23.000 Yeah.
00:50:23.000 It was a standing upright ape that might have been 10 feet tall.
00:50:27.000 And there's a picture of it like what it would look like if it was like a modern human was standing there next to this thing.
00:50:33.000 It's fucking crazy.
00:50:35.000 So why did the Smithsonian destroy all of those huge skulls, the giant skulls and all the giant bones?
00:50:41.000 What?
00:50:42.000 All of the 15-foot, 20-foot-tall humans.
00:50:44.000 Oh, you're taking me down a good crazy road.
00:50:45.000 So 20 to 10, 15, 20-foot-tall humans.
00:50:49.000 And the Smithsonian destroyed them?
00:50:51.000 Are you sure?
00:50:52.000 All the skulls and all the skeletons.
00:50:53.000 Are you sure they destroyed them?
00:50:54.000 Yeah.
00:50:55.000 Well, supposedly.
00:50:56.000 Let's look at this gigantopithecus first.
00:50:57.000 I'm going to show you this first because it's so crazy.
00:50:59.000 Just show me an image.
00:51:00.000 I'm on four things back up right now.
00:51:01.000 I know.
00:51:02.000 I'm sorry.
00:51:03.000 I got the water thing, but I'll do the gigantopithecus.
00:51:05.000 You did find it?
00:51:06.000 Should we go to the water thing first?
00:51:06.000 It's cool because it's jumping around.
00:51:09.000 It's making these shapes.
00:51:09.000 We'll go to the water thing.
00:51:11.000 Come back to Bigfoot.
00:51:13.000 Top it off with...
00:51:14.000 What was the last one?
00:51:16.000 I tried to look that up pretty quick.
00:51:17.000 It's pretty tough.
00:51:18.000 Is it tough?
00:51:19.000 Why?
00:51:20.000 Breaking it...
00:51:21.000 I couldn't find any sort of science about it.
00:51:23.000 Any scientific things.
00:51:25.000 So then I went to the Wikipedia of the guy who made the claims.
00:51:29.000 And...
00:51:30.000 In this, 2003, James Randi published an invitation to him offering him to take the $1 million Paranormal Challenge in which he could have received a million dollars if he could reproduce the experiment under test conditions and he did not receive a response.
00:51:42.000 That was the water stuff?
00:51:43.000 Yeah.
00:51:44.000 Okay.
00:51:45.000 The water stuff, it's showing, like, snow, you know, like crystals when they turn into snow, and then it's a bunch of other weird pictures, and it's just showing pictures.
00:51:53.000 There's no, like, science on how to reproduce it.
00:51:54.000 That James Randi guy.
00:51:56.000 Look at, what if you look at frequency effects on water?
00:52:00.000 That's way different.
00:52:01.000 Because the frequency, frequency effects on water.
00:52:04.000 That's way different than what this was claiming is that you have to like leave water in a jar for 30 days and like talk to it.
00:52:09.000 That's different.
00:52:10.000 Oh, that's different too than I was looking at.
00:52:11.000 Because the frequency has really lined it up and made it.
00:52:14.000 Is there any science on talking to plants?
00:52:18.000 I think there is.
00:52:19.000 That's different, too.
00:52:21.000 Is it?
00:52:22.000 I mean, yeah.
00:52:23.000 Well, think about church.
00:52:25.000 Did you go to church as a kid?
00:52:26.000 Not that much, but I stopped when I was like seven.
00:52:30.000 So I grew up in a very church atmosphere.
00:52:33.000 Jerry Falwell, we went to that school and church with Jerry Falwell and Adrian Rogers in Memphis, Tennessee.
00:52:39.000 So we went to the big megachurches.
00:52:41.000 We were like deep, deep Baptist, evangelical Christians.
00:52:44.000 Damn.
00:52:44.000 So I got indoctrinated really young for a long time.
00:52:47.000 So if you start throwing Bible verses at me, I can throw it down.
00:52:50.000 Yeah, I can throw it down.
00:52:51.000 Wow.
00:52:51.000 I can throw down Bible quick.
00:52:53.000 What branch of Christianity is that?
00:52:56.000 Davidian?
00:52:57.000 No, I'm just kidding.
00:52:59.000 It was an evangelical Christian and Baptist.
00:53:01.000 For instance, there is some very strange water experiments you can do with frequencies.
00:53:06.000 Oh, wow.
00:53:06.000 You can set it down on plates and make some really cool stuff, too.
00:53:11.000 It all shapes out.
00:53:11.000 Look at that.
00:53:12.000 So the electricity running into the water makes it do that spiral?
00:53:15.000 It's sound, really.
00:53:15.000 It's not even electricity.
00:53:16.000 It's sound.
00:53:18.000 Vibrations.
00:53:20.000 The spout is connected to a speaker.
00:53:22.000 The speaker is being controlled by an oscillation thing.
00:53:26.000 But if you do all the hertz, you can see it.
00:53:28.000 Oh my god, this is incredible!
00:53:30.000 What is the...
00:53:32.000 This is just one experiment for this.
00:53:36.000 There's a lot of other really, really cool ones.
00:53:38.000 There's the ones that run through all the frequencies, and you have the balanced frequencies, which is...
00:53:46.000 I'm messing up the frequencies right now.
00:53:48.000 I can't remember.
00:53:48.000 TBI. I just blame it on TBI. Maybe I spoke another joint.
00:53:54.000 It changes shapes.
00:53:56.000 So it goes into like this hexagram and all these different shapes.
00:54:00.000 Yeah, different patterns.
00:54:01.000 So if you change the frequency, the patterns change.
00:54:04.000 Right.
00:54:04.000 And so if it can do that, and that's why I was talking about prayer and churches and singing.
00:54:09.000 There was a time when a lot of humanity would get together at least once a week.
00:54:14.000 And it would sing together.
00:54:16.000 And it would pray together.
00:54:17.000 And no matter who you're praying to, God or Yahweh or the Creator or the Maker, whoever you want to pray to, if everybody's on the same frequency, everybody's on the same energy, and they're giving you all this energy, how could that be bad?
00:54:31.000 Look at this thing.
00:54:32.000 Yeah.
00:54:33.000 This is some weird shit.
00:54:34.000 So the ultrasonic waves are causing these objects to levitate.
00:54:38.000 So they're levitating in the ultrasonic waves.
00:54:41.000 Is that ice?
00:54:42.000 I don't even think it says exactly what they're floating there.
00:54:46.000 It's probably just a piece of maybe like rice or a piece of paper or something.
00:54:49.000 Holy shit.
00:54:50.000 But people speculate this is maybe how the pyramids might have been made because of the frequencies that people think they make or could have made, you know, back when they existed in the way they did in their original form.
00:55:04.000 And if you think about all of...
00:55:05.000 I don't know how.
00:55:06.000 This is part of like...
00:55:08.000 That was something that Eddie Griffin said outside the comedy store once high as fuck.
00:55:13.000 Smoking cigarettes going by.
00:55:14.000 Pyramids were made with sound!
00:55:17.000 Yeah, I believe that.
00:55:18.000 There's a frequency.
00:55:18.000 I remember someone's talked about there's a hum in there or there's a specific frequency in one of the pyramids.
00:55:24.000 I don't remember.
00:55:25.000 Well, there's something certainly to the shape of the stone and the fact that it's all going to echo like crazy.
00:55:32.000 And there's that one pyramid in South America.
00:55:33.000 You can yell at it and it gives you a bird sound back.
00:55:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:55:37.000 There's something going on with pyramids.
00:55:39.000 We're a pyramid culture.
00:55:40.000 Have you ever seen that, Jamie?
00:55:42.000 Where the guy stands down at the bottom of, I think it's in Chichen Itza, and he makes some noise.
00:55:47.000 What did he do?
00:55:48.000 Did he yell?
00:55:49.000 I think he can make clap.
00:55:50.000 You can make any noise, loud noise, that it comes back as a bird.
00:55:53.000 It sounds weird.
00:55:54.000 It's pretty cool.
00:55:54.000 And that's like the temple of Quetzalcoatl, I think, too.
00:55:58.000 I might have made that up.
00:55:59.000 But that's like their bird.
00:56:00.000 It sounded good.
00:56:01.000 Their crazy bird god.
00:56:03.000 Is it in Chichen Itza?
00:56:05.000 Chichen Itza echo clap.
00:56:07.000 But if you do the...
00:56:07.000 Look at this.
00:56:15.000 If you saw how big this pyramid is and how far away this guy is from it, you would realize how crazy that is.
00:56:21.000 If you're listening to this, just listening to this.
00:56:22.000 This is a simple echo, actually.
00:56:24.000 It's very simple to explain.
00:56:25.000 When you clap in front of a pyramid, I mean of a slope, the sound will go to the top.
00:56:32.000 In this case, a pyramid.
00:56:34.000 And if there's a cavity or a temple, like in this case, the echo will come back to you.
00:56:43.000 If you clap in front of an Egyptian permit, nothing happens, because the sound goes away.
00:56:54.000 They did that on purpose.
00:56:56.000 Imagine if they figured that out on purpose.
00:56:58.000 Imagine if they designed that.
00:56:59.000 If they designed that, we need to figure out what the fuck went wrong.
00:57:02.000 Like, what happened?
00:57:03.000 Something happened to, what is it, to Dryas?
00:57:06.000 Yeah, Younger Dryas.
00:57:07.000 Younger Dryas.
00:57:08.000 Nobody talks about that.
00:57:10.000 Why don't we ever talk about the fact that we were very advanced Human beings doing amazing things, the pyramids and doing this and floating rocks and doing space stuff maybe back in those days.
00:57:21.000 Then it all was destroyed.
00:57:22.000 Now we're rebuilding.
00:57:23.000 Why can't we accept that fact?
00:57:25.000 Well, you know, I think civilization has these rises and falls, and we always want to believe that we're in the middle of rising, that we're at the highest level that people have ever been.
00:57:38.000 Because we're way higher than anybody that we know of.
00:57:41.000 And when we look back a thousand years from now, yeah, we're way more advanced than them.
00:57:45.000 But when you take into account the Younger Dryas Impact Theory, it gets real confusing because you start going, well, okay, if that did happen, like how smart were people 12,000 years ago?
00:57:57.000 If the US was really covered, half of it was covered in a mile-high sheet of ice, And people were creating these insane structures, like insane, whether it's the pyramids of Egypt or, I mean,
00:58:13.000 I don't know what year Machu Picchu was made, but a lot of people date it back a long time ago as well.
00:58:19.000 I mean, is Machu Picchu from that era?
00:58:21.000 Like, when do they think Machu Picchu was constructed?
00:58:24.000 But it's another one of those things.
00:58:25.000 It just doesn't make any sense.
00:58:28.000 It's so amazing.
00:58:29.000 None of it makes sense.
00:58:30.000 Like, how did you get these stones here?
00:58:31.000 They're so big and it's so perfect and beautiful.
00:58:35.000 And the way they contoured the stone to fit into these slots.
00:58:39.000 It's incredible.
00:58:40.000 We can't do it.
00:58:40.000 We still can't.
00:58:42.000 1450?
00:58:43.000 Really?
00:58:43.000 That seems wrong.
00:58:44.000 There's no way.
00:58:45.000 Oh, that might be just one of those things.
00:58:47.000 There's one of those things where, like, archaeologists, they'll date a thing.
00:58:52.000 And, you know, you can't really date stone.
00:58:54.000 So they date, whether it's biological material, they have to find a piece of wood or something that they can do a carbon dating or something on.
00:59:02.000 You can't date stones.
00:59:03.000 So they're probably just kind of guessing.
00:59:05.000 They might be off.
00:59:07.000 The thing is, that becomes doctrine with a lot of people.
00:59:10.000 They found that thing, Gobekli Tepe, and that threw a monkey wrench into everything.
00:59:15.000 Because for sure, that's 12,000 years old.
00:59:18.000 For sure.
00:59:19.000 So that means somebody covered it up intentionally 12,000 years ago.
00:59:23.000 That means they could build this stuff 12,000 years ago.
00:59:26.000 Like, how?
00:59:27.000 How would they be able to make these immense stone columns when we think that these people are supposed to be hunter-gatherers?
00:59:32.000 The last occupied was 1450. Oh, that makes sense.
00:59:37.000 And that's what it's just giving me the answer for when I ask.
00:59:39.000 That makes sense.
00:59:39.000 That makes more sense.
00:59:42.000 Like, people kept using it.
00:59:44.000 But when did they actually make it?
00:59:46.000 I mean, when you get to looking at stuff like the Great Pyramid of Egypt, and they placed that somewhere around 2500 BC, maybe they're right.
00:59:59.000 There's so much shit there that's below that.
01:00:01.000 There's so much stuff that they find, like these old kingdom structures that are under the ground.
01:00:06.000 There's old subway systems under the pyramids.
01:00:08.000 How about all the stuff they're finding in the Amazon?
01:00:10.000 They're finding all these ancient civilizations in the Amazon that could have been immense and had who knows how many fucking people living in these really complex grids.
01:00:19.000 That was all cities.
01:00:21.000 It's crazy.
01:00:22.000 So I've been buying old encyclopedias.
01:00:26.000 So I'm trying to find, like I have an encyclopedia from 1910. I have another book of, it's a single book and it's like the world knowledge book or something.
01:00:35.000 And that's from 1890 or something.
01:00:37.000 But I'm trying to get all these really old books.
01:00:39.000 Because you've got to figure that all of history, everything that's written down, is written by the victors.
01:00:44.000 That's what happens to everything else.
01:00:46.000 And so if you're looking pre-World War I for the data, and I think if you want to know anything for sure, you have to go before World War I. Really?
01:00:54.000 Because I think everything was changed.
01:00:55.000 What do you mean?
01:00:56.000 We're rewriting stuff as we speak right now.
01:00:59.000 There's stuff being adjusted.
01:01:00.000 They're taking words out of the dictionary, and they're changing stuff, and they're saying that this is wrong, and they're constantly correcting historical documents.
01:01:08.000 The encyclopedia today is not going to be the same as my 1910 encyclopedia.
01:01:13.000 What do you think they're omitting?
01:01:14.000 I think they're trying to cover stuff up.
01:01:16.000 Like what kind of stuff?
01:01:17.000 I really believe that, like if you start looking at Rockefeller and a lot of the really big, you know, rich moguls from back in those days, they changed the schools, they changed universities, changed how we think, they changed how we educate.
01:01:30.000 They started changing the entire medical, you know, system from all this really good homeopathic, really cool stuff to all this pharmaceutical stuff based on oil.
01:01:39.000 I just think there's so much things going on in those days when they had a chance to do it that now we are brainwashed to think that all of these natural herbs and all this stuff doesn't do anything for us.
01:01:51.000 The only thing that can help is if you take this aspirin.
01:01:53.000 The only thing that can help is if you take this one vaccine.
01:01:56.000 He says, no, there's all this other stuff that's been going on for thousands of years, but they're covering it up.
01:02:01.000 They're erasing those parts of history and saying that this is the way you do it.
01:02:05.000 So I just want to look at it.
01:02:07.000 I want to look at what they had back in the early 19s or 1800s, compare it to what's here, okay?
01:02:13.000 But if you compare it, when it comes to medical science, there's no comparison to what they know today.
01:02:18.000 They've done so many studies.
01:02:21.000 There's been so much data.
01:02:23.000 For sure, it's corrupted somewhat by the pharmaceutical industry.
01:02:27.000 For sure.
01:02:28.000 For sure, testing is somewhat corrupt.
01:02:30.000 They've been busted doing stuff before.
01:02:32.000 They've had to pay massive fines, for sure.
01:02:34.000 But also, for sure, our understanding of how to heal people is better than it's ever been, too.
01:02:39.000 Oh, yeah.
01:02:39.000 I 100% agree.
01:02:41.000 So that's one of the things that when people want to talk about using herbs to cure diseases, I'm like, what?
01:02:48.000 Medicine's pretty fucking good, too.
01:02:49.000 Yeah.
01:02:50.000 It's like you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
01:02:53.000 But why can't we do both?
01:02:54.000 Yeah, we should be looking.
01:02:55.000 Why can't we look at all these herbs and say, if I take this willow bark and I scrape this down and I do this, and there's aspen trees, there's all these different trees and all these different herbs that have really good benefits.
01:03:07.000 What do you get out of an aspen tree?
01:03:08.000 They got rid of all of it.
01:03:09.000 I thought the aspen tree was the bark, and that's how they used to use it for headaches and stuff.
01:03:13.000 It's willow tree, right?
01:03:14.000 Oh, willow.
01:03:14.000 Willow?
01:03:15.000 Yeah, I think it's willow.
01:03:15.000 One of those?
01:03:16.000 You scraped a bark off a willow.
01:03:16.000 Is that all you have to do to get aspirin?
01:03:18.000 I bet it tastes like shit, though.
01:03:20.000 It's the bark off a willow tree.
01:03:21.000 Eat this bullshit-ass bark?
01:03:23.000 You just swallow a couple of bare aspirins?
01:03:24.000 Six months ago, I stopped using toothpaste.
01:03:26.000 Oh, my God.
01:03:26.000 So I don't use any toothpaste.
01:03:28.000 What do you wash your teeth with?
01:03:29.000 Well, I just do brush to get stuff out, but basically my mouth bacteria is at a point right now, just like your stomach, all those bacteria, there's good bacteria and bad bacteria.
01:03:37.000 Yeah?
01:03:38.000 So the good stuff is built up good enough right now that I have zero odor, zero nothing.
01:03:42.000 I don't have to worry about anything in there.
01:03:44.000 Really?
01:03:44.000 Yeah.
01:03:45.000 So you think we've been fucking ourselves over with toothpaste?
01:03:47.000 I think a lot of pharmaceuticals and a lot of stuff out there isn't always the right stuff for us.
01:03:52.000 It is a common misconception that aspirin is found in the bark of the willow tree.
01:03:56.000 A related compound called salicin does indeed occur in the willow bark, thereby explaining the use of the bark as a medication since the name, since the time of Hippocrates.
01:04:08.000 Okay, so it works like, it's just a different thing that works like aspirin.
01:04:11.000 It's not acetylsalic acid.
01:04:13.000 Oh.
01:04:14.000 Look at you, smart past.
01:04:14.000 That's aspirin.
01:04:17.000 What is this?
01:04:18.000 Yeah, so that's Gigantopithecus.
01:04:20.000 Nice.
01:04:20.000 That was a real thing.
01:04:21.000 So that was a real animal.
01:04:23.000 And the way they found out about this is interesting.
01:04:25.000 There was a guy, I think it was an anthropologist, was in an apothecary shop in China in like the 1930s, I think?
01:04:34.000 Somewhere like early in the 20th century.
01:04:36.000 And he found this tooth.
01:04:39.000 And he's like, what is this?
01:04:41.000 It's a giant primate tooth.
01:04:42.000 That's correct.
01:04:43.000 And he was looking at it, and he was like, this is wrong.
01:04:45.000 Where the fuck did you find this?
01:04:47.000 And they took him to wherever it was, and he found more.
01:04:51.000 So he found jawbones, and the position of the jaw is one of a hominid that is bipedal.
01:04:59.000 So it's like the position of the jaw is supposedly one that's a stand-up gorilla.
01:05:04.000 So this big-ass, hairy, man-looking thing that you saw in that first picture.
01:05:10.000 Apparently, that was a real thing.
01:05:11.000 And it lived alongside people.
01:05:14.000 Like, there was a thing walking around like that in the jungle.
01:05:17.000 That's pretty cool.
01:05:18.000 It's fucking crazy!
01:05:19.000 Can you look up 1800s giant skeletons?
01:05:24.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:05:25.000 The Smithsonian killed the giants.
01:05:27.000 Yeah, because it would be the same thing as this.
01:05:29.000 Here's the claim.
01:05:30.000 Giant human skeletons were found by the thousands and destroyed by the Smithsonian.
01:05:35.000 An old hoax has resurfaced in an Instagram meme claiming that giant skeletons were found but were destroyed because having to explain the existence of these skeletons contradicted the evolution of mankind and creation, end quote.
01:05:49.000 The July 25th post by the user Conspiracy Theories, which is probably a Russian anyway.
01:05:56.000 That's probably a Russian hoax.
01:05:59.000 54,700 likes reads, giant skeletons were found by the thousands, but most were destroyed or thrown in the ocean by the Smithsonian and Vatican.
01:06:08.000 Can you do the newspaper articles?
01:06:11.000 Because it shows in the newspapers throughout the entire 1800s and in the 1900s in the United States, there are almost every week a farmer was digging up a giant skeleton.
01:06:21.000 But did they take pictures of these things?
01:06:23.000 Yeah, there's photos.
01:06:24.000 Just photos?
01:06:25.000 Yeah.
01:06:25.000 So that right there, there's probably a lot of hoax that the Smithsonian didn't destroy thousands.
01:06:30.000 They only destroyed a few hundred.
01:06:35.000 But the Smithsonian did admit.
01:06:37.000 The thing is, people are always full of shit.
01:06:39.000 Some of the bones they were shown were dinosaur bones.
01:06:42.000 I did read that in the article.
01:06:43.000 It said that they were just showing pictures of people finding dinosaur bones and saying they were giants.
01:06:47.000 But there's a whole bunch of old, early 1900s, 1800s newspaper articles where they were printing them in the Austin Gazette.
01:06:55.000 Some farmer just out on the road dug up a skeleton and they went down there and took pictures and put it into the Austin Gazette.
01:07:01.000 Maybe they didn't know that it was a dinosaur?
01:07:05.000 Maybe they thought it was a person, it was like a woolly mammoth or something?
01:07:08.000 They're full human skeletons.
01:07:09.000 Really?
01:07:10.000 Is there any photos of these full human skeletons?
01:07:13.000 I'm super skeptical.
01:07:14.000 In the newspapers.
01:07:16.000 Super skeptical.
01:07:17.000 Super skeptical about these giant human skeletons.
01:07:20.000 Take some data from right and left.
01:07:22.000 I found something, but let's see what it is.
01:07:24.000 There's a picture of giants in West Virginia.
01:07:29.000 There's tons of these newspaper articles.
01:07:31.000 That's high resolution.
01:07:33.000 That does not look real.
01:07:35.000 We don't know how tall that other dude is either.
01:07:37.000 That's me standing next to Shaq.
01:07:40.000 Okay, what does it say?
01:07:42.000 I don't know.
01:07:42.000 I'm trying to read through quickly, but I'm just looking for newspapers.
01:07:45.000 Could be.
01:07:46.000 If you just do it, just the pictures of the newspapers.
01:07:49.000 Why would the Smithsonian destroy it, though?
01:07:51.000 Well, they had a whole bunch of them, and it did admit to destroying a lot of skeletons.
01:07:56.000 And it's another newspaper article that I found where the Smithsonian is actually apologizing for destroying those skeletons.
01:08:04.000 Really?
01:08:04.000 Yeah.
01:08:05.000 The Smithsonian apologized for destroying giant skeletons?
01:08:07.000 They did a real little article that they destroyed a bunch of skeletons or a bunch of them got sent off somewhere or died in a fire.
01:08:13.000 They said something happened to them.
01:08:15.000 They said, hey, we're sorry.
01:08:17.000 Imagine if you went over to Bill Gates' house and he takes you into a secret room.
01:08:20.000 He's got giant skeletons.
01:08:21.000 He's got all of them.
01:08:22.000 What the fuck?
01:08:23.000 Dude, they were real.
01:08:25.000 They were real.
01:08:25.000 All the dinosaurs were actually dragons.
01:08:27.000 Imagine that.
01:08:29.000 Imagine if dragons were...
01:08:30.000 I mean, you think about why are there so many depictions of a similar creature throughout all these different cultures?
01:08:38.000 Like, that was that Matthew McConaughey movie.
01:08:41.000 Do you remember that movie?
01:08:42.000 There was a movie where it turns out they were digging into the ground for something, like oil or some shit, and they tapped into dragons.
01:08:49.000 Yeah.
01:08:49.000 And the dragons were...
01:08:50.000 Here it is.
01:08:51.000 Giant skeletons found.
01:08:53.000 Cave in Mexico gives up the bones of an ancient race.
01:08:57.000 Okay, it says Charles C. Clapp, who has recently returned from Mexico, where he has been in charge of Thomas W. Lawson's Minipig...
01:09:07.000 Mining.
01:09:09.000 Oh.
01:09:09.000 That's so bad resolution.
01:09:11.000 Mining interest has called the attention of Professor Agassiz?
01:09:16.000 Agassiz?
01:09:16.000 How do you say that?
01:09:17.000 I don't know.
01:09:18.000 Agassiz?
01:09:18.000 Agassiz?
01:09:19.000 Agassiz?
01:09:20.000 Agassiz.
01:09:20.000 To a remarkable discovery made by him, he found in Mexico a cave containing some 200 skeletons of men, each above eight feet in height.
01:09:29.000 The cave was evidently the burial place of a race of giants who...
01:09:37.000 Antedated.
01:09:38.000 Antedated?
01:09:38.000 I don't know what that means.
01:09:39.000 Predated the Aztecs.
01:09:40.000 Oh wow, I've never heard that word.
01:09:41.000 Antedated the Aztecs.
01:09:42.000 Mr. Clapp arranged the bones of one of these skeletons and found the total length to be 8 foot 11 inches.
01:09:50.000 The femur reached up to his thigh and the molars were big enough to crack a coconut.
01:09:55.000 The head measured 18 inches from front to back.
01:09:58.000 And this is like, what year is this in the New York Times?
01:10:00.000 1908. Wow.
01:10:01.000 So there's a ton of newspaper articles from all around the country, all these little tiny gazettes.
01:10:06.000 But why would they destroy it?
01:10:09.000 Look at that.
01:10:09.000 There's a couple of them.
01:10:11.000 Look at that.
01:10:11.000 Giant skeletons found Los Angeles.
01:10:13.000 Strange skeletons found Madison, Wisconsin.
01:10:16.000 Georgia.
01:10:17.000 You're going to find it all over the whole country and all around the world.
01:10:20.000 But why would they hide that?
01:10:21.000 I don't know.
01:10:22.000 That's the thing that really boggles my mind.
01:10:24.000 18 feet tall, look at that one!
01:10:28.000 Austin, Texas.
01:10:30.000 They're tripping on peyote, man.
01:10:33.000 If the report of the fossilized skeleton of a giant 18 feet tall Has been found near Seymour, Texas is true.
01:10:41.000 It is the most important ethnological discovery ever made in the world, remarked Dr. J. E. Pierce, professor of anthropology at the University of Texas.
01:10:51.000 I bet he probably said that with the most mocking tone ever.
01:10:56.000 Do you understand that it would be the most important ethnological discovery ever made in the world?
01:11:04.000 Look how big he was.
01:11:05.000 But here's the question for all this.
01:11:06.000 So this is a newspaper article from Austin, Texas.
01:11:11.000 Austin, Texas newspaper article from way back in the old days.
01:11:14.000 Yeah.
01:11:15.000 Why would they print that?
01:11:17.000 Why would they print that?
01:11:18.000 And it's all over the country.
01:11:19.000 There's newspaper articles just like this all around the entire country of farmers digging up bones.
01:11:23.000 That's a good question.
01:11:24.000 Look at this.
01:11:24.000 This is a 12-foot tall guy.
01:11:26.000 Well, it could be that it was real.
01:11:28.000 Or it could be that it became a myth that just gets repurposed.
01:11:34.000 And like a lot of things, like the Mothman or a lot of these things that people believe they're seeing, you hear about it and then you claim you see it.
01:11:43.000 And then it goes on and on and on.
01:11:44.000 Want to watch a video?
01:11:45.000 Want to watch a video of a giant?
01:11:47.000 A real giant?
01:11:48.000 A real giant video.
01:11:48.000 How big is he?
01:11:50.000 Probably 15, 16 feet tall.
01:11:52.000 What?
01:11:52.000 Look up a Japanese parade giant.
01:11:56.000 If you do those three words, it shows you.
01:11:57.000 Is it an actual giant human?
01:11:59.000 It's a Japanese film from before World War II. And he's 15 feet tall?
01:12:04.000 He's got 12 or 15 feet tall.
01:12:05.000 If you look at the video, it's a video.
01:12:07.000 It's a live video.
01:12:08.000 You see the dude walking around.
01:12:10.000 What?
01:12:10.000 Just a huge guy.
01:12:17.000 Imagine if they just died off.
01:12:19.000 It was too hard to get food.
01:12:21.000 Or imagine if we went to war with them.
01:12:22.000 How would we win?
01:12:25.000 Technology.
01:12:26.000 Really?
01:12:26.000 What kind of technology do we have when the giants were around?
01:12:29.000 We're fighting like third generation warfare and the giants are still stuck in first generation warfare.
01:12:35.000 Well, here's the thing.
01:12:36.000 If that younger drug...
01:12:37.000 There you go.
01:12:37.000 What?
01:12:39.000 Is that real?
01:12:40.000 I don't think so.
01:12:42.000 No, that's not real.
01:12:44.000 That is so not real.
01:12:45.000 That's so CGI. You back up, that's a fake video.
01:12:48.000 If you back up and watch, watch the guy walk.
01:12:51.000 Look how he's standing.
01:12:52.000 That's not real.
01:12:53.000 Look at his neck and everything.
01:12:55.000 Hey, it looks, it's weird.
01:12:57.000 Yeah, it looks like horse shit.
01:13:01.000 Yes.
01:13:01.000 I would love to study that film now.
01:13:03.000 Doesn't it, Jamie?
01:13:03.000 Yes.
01:13:04.000 This looks like someone who was practicing making this.
01:13:07.000 Yeah, it looks like someone put a CGI. Even the way the thing's moving, it's so rigid.
01:13:12.000 Oh, yeah.
01:13:13.000 Yeah, this is fake.
01:13:15.000 It took some old footage and added some stuff into it.
01:13:18.000 Yeah, that's what they did.
01:13:19.000 They spliced that in there.
01:13:20.000 I want to see a full analysis, though.
01:13:23.000 Because this is one of the videos that's been around.
01:13:25.000 Next time you have a question like this, you bring it to us.
01:13:28.000 You can't be running around believing this shit.
01:13:31.000 Okay, so I've got to give off that one?
01:13:32.000 I've got to give that one up.
01:13:33.000 So there's no giants?
01:13:34.000 I think there's no giants.
01:13:35.000 I think the Bigfoot one is probably, if you go back to that Younger Dryas impact theory, that apparently they think that could be what was the cause of mass extinction of an enormous number of the megafauna on North America in particular.
01:13:52.000 It all happened around that time period.
01:13:54.000 And they think if that was a real animal and it existed at one point in time and co-existed with people, it could have died off just like the mammoth did, a lot of other animals did during that time period.
01:14:06.000 Saber-toothed tigers, they all died off around then.
01:14:10.000 Yeah.
01:14:10.000 They don't know why those things all died off.
01:14:12.000 There's a bunch of different theories, but one of them is that Younger Dryas Impact Theory.
01:14:16.000 It's a very good one.
01:14:18.000 Because we know things get hit by asteroids.
01:14:20.000 It's not outside of the realm of possibility.
01:14:22.000 We know it happens all the time.
01:14:24.000 And they actually have that.
01:14:25.000 Speaking of patterns of astrology, astronomy rather, they know when Earth passes through this area where there's a lot of comets.
01:14:35.000 And it coincides with the Younger Dryas Impact Theory.
01:14:38.000 They think it happened a couple of times, not just once.
01:14:41.000 A couple thousand years apart, too.
01:14:44.000 They think it probably happened somewhere around 12, and I think they think it might have happened again around 10,000 years ago.
01:14:49.000 And every time that happened, I guarantee you, if there's enough of that nuclear glass that they find, and enough iridium, which exists when they do the core samples, and they get to that time, there's enough to indicate impacts.
01:15:06.000 Something happened.
01:15:07.000 And any impact is going to leave a lot of iridium at a course.
01:15:10.000 It's probably a fucking doozy.
01:15:12.000 It's a huge one.
01:15:13.000 Doozies.
01:15:14.000 You've got to wonder, how smart were they before that?
01:15:17.000 How did they make the pyramids?
01:15:20.000 It's like they left behind such undeniable achievements.
01:15:24.000 You can't dismiss it.
01:15:26.000 You can't dismiss the possibility that they might have had a civilization even more advanced than we are today.
01:15:32.000 More advanced than we are.
01:15:33.000 Which is so weird, because we don't want to believe that.
01:15:36.000 We want to believe.
01:15:36.000 There's no way people 5,000 years ago were fucking smarter than us.
01:15:39.000 No way.
01:15:40.000 But I mean...
01:15:41.000 I do believe it.
01:15:41.000 Maybe they fucking were, man.
01:15:43.000 Maybe they figured something out.
01:15:45.000 And I wonder what that it would be.
01:15:47.000 Like, what could make them able to do something like the pyramid?
01:15:52.000 Like the Great Pyramid of Giza.
01:15:54.000 Two million three hundred thousand stones.
01:15:55.000 Some of them from a quarry that was hundreds of miles away.
01:15:58.000 Like, they put together something that's so nuts.
01:16:02.000 That even thousands and thousands of years later, you walk by and you go, what the fuck?
01:16:06.000 How did I do this?
01:16:07.000 How did you do this?
01:16:08.000 How did you do it so good, too?
01:16:10.000 There's stuff like that all over the earth.
01:16:12.000 All over the earth.
01:16:12.000 You walk up to it and you go, how did I do this?
01:16:15.000 Thousands of years ago.
01:16:16.000 The Acropolis and the Parthenon.
01:16:17.000 The Parthenon is the bottom one, right?
01:16:21.000 Isn't that the bottom one?
01:16:22.000 The Acropolis, the building, it sits on the Parthenon.
01:16:25.000 So they just say that that was already there.
01:16:28.000 Like the Parthenon, the part that it's built on.
01:16:30.000 You ever see how fucking big those stones are?
01:16:32.000 Freaking huge.
01:16:33.000 And it was just there.
01:16:34.000 So when the Greeks built the Acropolis, that shit was already there.
01:16:37.000 They built it on top of it.
01:16:37.000 And everything's all square.
01:16:39.000 It's all perfect.
01:16:40.000 It's so big!
01:16:42.000 Go to the giant stones of the Parthenon.
01:16:46.000 Just Google that.
01:16:47.000 Because they're so big, you just go, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
01:16:50.000 What year was this?
01:16:52.000 When did they do this?
01:16:53.000 They did it with horses and wagons.
01:16:56.000 Where did you get the rock?
01:16:57.000 What the fuck is going on here?
01:16:59.000 It's so big, and they literally give no explanation as to how it was made.
01:17:04.000 Like, see if you can see, um, is there any images that show, like, the sides of it?
01:17:12.000 Where you can get a...
01:17:13.000 It is huge.
01:17:15.000 There's some images that show the...
01:17:17.000 Yeah, okay, that's a good one.
01:17:18.000 Like, what is that?
01:17:20.000 Look how big those rocks are!
01:17:23.000 Like, what did you do?
01:17:25.000 How did you do that?
01:17:26.000 Who did that?
01:17:28.000 Hercules.
01:17:29.000 Oh, there's a good example.
01:17:30.000 There's a good example.
01:17:31.000 Like, are you out of your fucking mind?
01:17:33.000 Like, what is that?
01:17:35.000 Is that a spaceship launch pad?
01:17:39.000 I mean, look at the size of those stones, man!
01:17:42.000 Imagine if that's what it was.
01:17:44.000 It's like, at one point in time we had spaceships.
01:17:46.000 How cool would that be?
01:17:47.000 Pretty fucking cool.
01:17:49.000 What are your thoughts on aliens?
01:17:52.000 Do you think they're watching us?
01:17:53.000 Do you think they'll step in?
01:17:54.000 God, aliens.
01:17:55.000 I don't think they're from, like, space.
01:17:58.000 I think they're from the ocean.
01:17:59.000 Really?
01:18:00.000 Yeah.
01:18:01.000 Well, there's definitely been some of those what they call transmedium crafts that have been observed.
01:18:06.000 I'm friends with Jeremy Corbell, and he makes these documentaries on UFOs.
01:18:12.000 He did this amazing one on Bob Lazar.
01:18:16.000 And they send him footage because they know that he's like the main UFO guy.
01:18:20.000 And he'll study it and understand it.
01:18:22.000 And he releases it and tells people where it came from.
01:18:24.000 That's cool.
01:18:25.000 But I'm always like, how do you know that someone's not fucking with you?
01:18:28.000 Yeah, there's something going on.
01:18:29.000 Totally.
01:18:30.000 But the ocean, there's something going on, man.
01:18:33.000 That's so deep.
01:18:33.000 A lot of people have seen things come out of the ocean.
01:18:36.000 A lot of people have, including that Tic Tac, that experience that Commander David Fravor had that was off the coast of San Diego in 2004. Did you ever hear about this story?
01:18:47.000 I didn't hear that one.
01:18:49.000 Commander David Fravor, he's a naval pilot, rock solid, just everything about him.
01:18:58.000 You believe every word out of his mouth, never had an outrageous day in his life that was like this.
01:19:05.000 And then one day, he has this thing that they see that's hovering over something that's in the ocean.
01:19:12.000 So something is in the ocean below the surface, whether it looks like the size of an aircraft carrier or something, and there's something above it Thing that's shaped like a tic-tac and I think they said it was like how big was that thing it's like 20 feet long So it wasn't that big wasn't that big whatever this thing is they tracked it on radar going from 50,000 feet above sea level to 50 in less than a second They don't know what happened.
01:19:42.000 That's nuts.
01:19:42.000 They tracked it with, they got video of this thing, and they had eye contact by two different jets that saw this thing, and they were communicating about it, and they were discussing it, and he's talked about it.
01:19:54.000 That's cool.
01:19:55.000 And then whatever that thing was, jammed their radar, or actively jammed their tracking, which is technically, supposedly an act of war, that's what they say, and then it immediately vanished at this insane rate of speed and went directly to their cat point.
01:20:09.000 So it knew where they were supposed to go later in their journey.
01:20:13.000 Yeah, that's cool.
01:20:14.000 Like, it knew.
01:20:15.000 Damn.
01:20:16.000 Which is fucking nuts.
01:20:17.000 And the people that were tracking it and the ship said, hey, we found it again.
01:20:22.000 It's at your cat point.
01:20:23.000 And they're like, what the fuck?
01:20:25.000 I wanna watch that.
01:20:27.000 And there's a video of the thing taking off.
01:20:29.000 They don't know what it is, though.
01:20:30.000 Like, what is that?
01:20:31.000 Is that a drone?
01:20:32.000 Is that from another planet?
01:20:33.000 Is that something we have?
01:20:35.000 But you're open-minded enough to look at it and wonder, what is that?
01:20:39.000 I want it to be an alien.
01:20:40.000 You don't automatically shut down and go, well, that's just fake or whatever.
01:20:43.000 No, but I want it to be an alien.
01:20:45.000 That's the problem.
01:20:45.000 The reason why I'm so critical about these things is because I want them to be real.
01:20:49.000 If they came from under the ocean, wouldn't they still be aliens?
01:20:51.000 Not good enough.
01:20:53.000 It has to be, like, out there somewhere?
01:20:55.000 No, it would be cool.
01:20:56.000 It would definitely be cool, but there's levels of cool.
01:20:59.000 So, like, there's Aquaman level cool.
01:21:01.000 Pretty fucking cool.
01:21:02.000 But then there's a Silver Surfer cool.
01:21:04.000 Cooler than Aquaman.
01:21:05.000 Silver Surfer is definitely cooler.
01:21:06.000 Silver Surfer is cooler than Aquaman.
01:21:08.000 No disrespect.
01:21:09.000 I'm a big Jason Momoa fan.
01:21:10.000 I think he was the best Conan ever.
01:21:12.000 He was pretty cool.
01:21:13.000 He was the best Conan.
01:21:14.000 It's just the movie wasn't the best.
01:21:15.000 But he was the best Conan.
01:21:17.000 He was the most believable Conan.
01:21:18.000 He could definitely be Conan.
01:21:19.000 Yeah, because that's what a guy like Conan would look like.
01:21:21.000 He wouldn't look like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
01:21:23.000 He was two jacks.
01:21:23.000 And he wouldn't have that weird accent either.
01:21:25.000 Yeah, he was all shaved down and oiled up like he's about to pose.
01:21:29.000 But Momoa was like the most believable.
01:21:32.000 But something coming from space is better than something coming from the ocean.
01:21:37.000 I don't know.
01:21:37.000 I think if it came from the ocean, it would be like, they've been here the whole time.
01:21:40.000 Do you remember that movie, The Abyss?
01:21:41.000 We just won't look.
01:21:42.000 Oh, that's a good movie.
01:21:43.000 That was in a movie where they came from the ocean, right?
01:21:44.000 The Seals are such jerks, so...
01:21:46.000 Yeah, that was...
01:21:46.000 Why do they do that?
01:21:47.000 I don't know.
01:21:47.000 They always make the Seals all getting shot for those Marines down in that one little hole.
01:21:52.000 So I was talking to one of the guys that was in that movie, a Seal Team guy.
01:21:56.000 Who was it?
01:21:57.000 It was, uh...
01:21:58.000 Shoot, I don't remember.
01:21:59.000 But he was talking about that, and he says, what do you think about, you know, this scene?
01:22:03.000 And it was the producer-director talking to the Seal Team guys.
01:22:06.000 Well, it's just total bullshit.
01:22:08.000 We wouldn't be going through this sewer and coming up through here.
01:22:10.000 We wouldn't be doing that.
01:22:11.000 We wouldn't be doing that.
01:22:12.000 Yeah, but it's for the movie.
01:22:13.000 You have to do it.
01:22:14.000 He says, yeah, but we wouldn't do that.
01:22:15.000 He says, yeah, but it's in the script.
01:22:17.000 You have to do it.
01:22:18.000 He says, yeah, but we think this is bullshit.
01:22:20.000 All the SEALs are pissed that they had to do such bad tactics.
01:22:23.000 Yeah, why wouldn't they want it to be accurate?
01:22:25.000 I don't get it.
01:22:26.000 Like, why would that make it a worse movie?
01:22:29.000 They always make the movies screwed up like that, though.
01:22:32.000 But isn't that like, if you're bringing SEALs on and you're going to talk to them and there's like a SEAL thing in the movie, how arrogant are they to disrespect the SEALs by coming up with shitty tactics that you would never do?
01:22:47.000 You know what I mean?
01:22:48.000 Well, we do screw up sometimes, though.
01:22:50.000 We do some bad tactics once in a while.
01:22:52.000 I definitely had my mistakes in the SEAL teams.
01:22:56.000 I just think that if you're gonna depict something in a film, you don't have to lie about what the thing is to make your story work.
01:23:04.000 The story's good already.
01:23:06.000 The abyss is you got aliens in the fucking ocean.
01:23:10.000 You could have a bad seal, but you can't have bad tactics.
01:23:16.000 Or they got totally gone bonkers.
01:23:19.000 It's like you can't just fake what a thing is because it makes your movie better.
01:23:25.000 That's stupid.
01:23:26.000 Seems like that's all I do, though.
01:23:27.000 That's a big thing.
01:23:28.000 Well, the arrogance of Hollywood, the arrogance of being able to do that.
01:23:31.000 I always talk about the Mark Schultz movie.
01:23:33.000 You know that movie about that man who killed David Schultz?
01:23:38.000 The DuPont, John DuPont, you know that story?
01:23:42.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:23:43.000 The wrestling movie.
01:23:44.000 Exactly.
01:23:45.000 That was with Channing Tatum.
01:23:47.000 Exactly.
01:23:48.000 Foxcatcher.
01:23:49.000 And Ruffalo.
01:23:50.000 Yeah, and Mark Ruffalo.
01:23:51.000 Yeah, Mark Ruffalo was awesome in that movie.
01:23:52.000 Yeah, he's great in everything.
01:23:54.000 I mean, Chan was good in that movie, too.
01:23:55.000 He was intense.
01:23:57.000 It's a really well done movie.
01:23:58.000 In that movie.
01:23:59.000 It's a dark movie though.
01:24:00.000 It's a dark movie.
01:24:01.000 Yeah.
01:24:01.000 But apparently I don't think it was that accurate.
01:24:03.000 I think there's a lot that they took license with as well.
01:24:06.000 And one of the reasons why I say this is because there's a fight at the end of it.
01:24:09.000 Mark Schultz, who was the brother, he had a fight, one fight in the UFC. And he fought against this guy named Big Daddy Goodrich.
01:24:20.000 Gary Goodrich.
01:24:21.000 Yeah.
01:24:22.000 Sorry, my tongue got...
01:24:26.000 Sorry about that folks.
01:24:28.000 But anyway, Gary Goodridge is a legendary fighter.
01:24:31.000 He's fought in the UFC multiple times.
01:24:34.000 Gary Goodridge, he has one of the most ferocious knockouts in the history of the sport against this guy Paul Herrera.
01:24:42.000 Paul Herrera takes him down and he gets him like a fireman's carry and Gary locks him up in a crucifix and blasts him with elbows.
01:24:51.000 It is a horrendous KO. Because he hits him like four or five times while he's completely unconscious.
01:24:58.000 And Gary is a giant man.
01:25:00.000 Just super jacked.
01:25:01.000 So Gary fought Mark Schultz in the UFC. It's not like another guy.
01:25:06.000 Like just some random guy.
01:25:08.000 No, it's fucking Gary Goodrich.
01:25:10.000 He's a legend.
01:25:10.000 It's huge.
01:25:11.000 So Mark Schultz fought Gary Goodrich in real life.
01:25:14.000 But in the movie, he fights some Russian guy.
01:25:17.000 A completely fake guy.
01:25:19.000 It didn't make any sense.
01:25:20.000 Why would they do that?
01:25:21.000 The historical accuracy...
01:25:23.000 Was better than a fake.
01:25:25.000 But it's like you're faking something that I know happened.
01:25:29.000 I watched it.
01:25:30.000 Like you're pretending you wrote a whole new thing.
01:25:34.000 That doesn't make sense.
01:25:35.000 It doesn't make any sense.
01:25:36.000 It makes zero sense.
01:25:37.000 So if you do that, how am I supposed to trust you about all the other shit in that movie?
01:25:40.000 About nothing.
01:25:40.000 Yeah.
01:25:41.000 You're just making stuff up to make your movie good.
01:25:44.000 And how messed up was DuPont?
01:25:45.000 Jeez.
01:25:46.000 Oh my god.
01:25:46.000 But he was messed up in real life.
01:25:48.000 That was true.
01:25:48.000 In real life, yeah.
01:25:49.000 Yeah.
01:25:49.000 It reminds me of like DuPont, the Rockefellers, the over across the water, you know, all those bankers, all those guys in those days.
01:25:59.000 Yeah.
01:25:59.000 That's that group I'm talking about.
01:26:01.000 It's like they had so much power and so much money and so much influence back when our country was still pretty young, you know?
01:26:07.000 Between World War I and World War II, we were a young country.
01:26:10.000 We were barely alive, you know?
01:26:12.000 It's also like what we were talking about earlier about killing jesters.
01:26:15.000 Yeah.
01:26:16.000 You know, like that guy worked for him, right?
01:26:19.000 Yeah.
01:26:19.000 And he just decided to kill that guy.
01:26:21.000 It's like that kind of...
01:26:22.000 Oh, God, it's exactly like it.
01:26:23.000 That's his entertainment.
01:26:24.000 Yeah, it's that kind of...
01:26:25.000 Ben Shapiro has a video where he's going over these people at Davos.
01:26:32.000 You want some coffee?
01:26:34.000 Thanks, man.
01:26:35.000 Sorry about that, folks.
01:26:36.000 No worries.
01:26:37.000 Ben Shapiro.
01:26:38.000 So in this video, cheers.
01:26:39.000 Cheers, man.
01:26:40.000 Great talking, man.
01:26:41.000 It's been a fun time.
01:26:45.000 We haven't even talked about the fun stuff yet.
01:26:48.000 Yeah, there's a lot of fun stuff we're talking about.
01:26:49.000 In Ben Shapiro's video he's talking about how there are certain people that really do believe that because they're wealthy they know better and they want to just assume control over things.
01:27:00.000 They make things work easier.
01:27:01.000 They really think of themselves as elites.
01:27:05.000 They don't think of it as elites like, I went to Yale, I went to Harvard.
01:27:12.000 No, I'm better than you.
01:27:13.000 That's what their version of elite is.
01:27:17.000 It is an interesting phenomenon that human beings seem to acquire when they get a lot of power.
01:27:24.000 They just feel like they should be able to dictate how people do things.
01:27:30.000 It's a weird, natural position almost, right?
01:27:34.000 It's 100% natural.
01:27:35.000 I think that's one of the problems we have with military people when we retire because we're so used to that chain of command.
01:27:41.000 We're so used to the authority being invested within my rank.
01:27:45.000 So when I retired, I was a senior chief.
01:27:47.000 And I found I was doing this even after I retired a lot.
01:27:50.000 Was that because I was a senior chief and because I was like a chief of platoon, you know, or chief of a task unit.
01:27:56.000 So I had these 30 people under me and I was working with them and doing combat and all this other stuff.
01:28:00.000 Everything was very critical.
01:28:01.000 Everything was very time sensitive.
01:28:03.000 And you had to do it right.
01:28:05.000 When I retired, you keep your rank with you.
01:28:08.000 And I think everybody does it to a certain extent.
01:28:10.000 And so because we had that power, because we had authority and all that stuff within our rank, within our expertise as a SEAL, It doesn't count in a civilian world.
01:28:19.000 And so when I'm speaking to people, sometimes I would make that mistake.
01:28:22.000 I would start becoming that chief again.
01:28:25.000 And I would start talking to them as I was a chief, telling them what to do rather than working out a way to do it.
01:28:31.000 You know what I mean?
01:28:32.000 I do know what you mean.
01:28:33.000 I think that transition from military to civilian is a really tough one because we can't get rid of that attitude that we know better because I was a chief.
01:28:42.000 Right.
01:28:42.000 I don't always know better.
01:28:44.000 And that was the same reason why I'm so open about the fact that I have all these accounts.
01:28:48.000 I have all this stuff.
01:28:49.000 I want to get the data.
01:28:50.000 I want to read all about these giants.
01:28:52.000 I want to read about the younger Dryas.
01:28:53.000 I want to read about religions and multiple religions, Buddhism, Taoism, Islam.
01:28:59.000 I want as much data as I can so that I can make the right decision.
01:29:03.000 Also, you want to know how other people think too, right?
01:29:06.000 Yeah, 100%.
01:29:07.000 Because we're a weird species, man.
01:29:09.000 Fuck yeah, so weird.
01:29:11.000 We're just messed up.
01:29:12.000 Some people think so different than you, and they're fucking adamant about it.
01:29:16.000 Like, when you watch pro-lifers and pro-choice people scream at each other, you're like, wow!
01:29:22.000 Like, that's one of the best examples of how differently people think, whether it's because of ideology or religion or what causes you to be so...
01:29:32.000 So rock solid and rigid in your principles, whether you're right or wrong.
01:29:35.000 It's a strange thing when they collide with someone who is diametrically opposed to you, but equally passionate that they're right.
01:29:43.000 And you watch people scream at each other like, whoa, we're so strange.
01:29:47.000 We're such a weird species.
01:29:48.000 And they're going to fight about that.
01:29:49.000 Then they made it political.
01:29:51.000 The whole, per choice, per life, all the other stuff is so politicized.
01:29:55.000 And we do that to everything.
01:29:57.000 But it's one of those things where you clearly know by someone's choice whether or not they're on this side or that side.
01:30:03.000 100%.
01:30:04.000 If someone says, I'm pro-life, oh, that's a Republican.
01:30:06.000 He's a Republican.
01:30:07.000 Yeah.
01:30:08.000 It's weird.
01:30:09.000 And there's also things like climate change.
01:30:12.000 That's political, too.
01:30:13.000 They believe so much that we're fucked.
01:30:16.000 Those people are almost all Democrats.
01:30:18.000 The people that think everything's going to be okay and that we'll figure it out and it's not nearly as bad as everyone's saying, those are all Republicans.
01:30:27.000 But if you talk to all the climate change people and you ask them about the Younger Dryas or you ask them about history, historical times that we've had, this earth, In the ice ages or being bombarded by whatever, we've gone through this before.
01:30:40.000 It's just different.
01:30:41.000 That's why I think climate change- We have, but it is different.
01:30:43.000 We definitely are fucking it up.
01:30:44.000 We're 100% contributing.
01:30:46.000 We're 100% emitting too much carbon and particulates and coal-powered plants make all the cities around them fucked.
01:30:54.000 We watched this video of this coal-powered area of, was it Indiana?
01:31:00.000 Was it Indiana?
01:31:02.000 And this one area has a bunch of coal plants around it.
01:31:05.000 And you have like, there's fucking dust on people's cars.
01:31:09.000 It's nasty.
01:31:09.000 There's coal dust.
01:31:10.000 So it's in the air.
01:31:11.000 So you're breathing coal dust.
01:31:12.000 So all these people have all these problems and health problems.
01:31:15.000 And it's like, get the fuck out of there.
01:31:18.000 Move.
01:31:18.000 And we've got to stop doing that.
01:31:20.000 There's got to be a better way than this.
01:31:22.000 We do have to stop doing it.
01:31:23.000 We have to try to clean up.
01:31:25.000 But you can't clean up at a detriment to the people.
01:31:28.000 We all die off.
01:31:29.000 But that one is fucked because the people are actually being poisoned by the fucking air, which they need.
01:31:34.000 It's a localized area.
01:31:34.000 You don't even get a chance to choose.
01:31:35.000 A local area.
01:31:37.000 But then everyone's scared of nuclear.
01:31:39.000 But nuclear seems to be one of the only ways where you can generally assume that unless there's a meltdown, you're going to get some pretty solid power out of that.
01:31:49.000 It's not nearly as environmentally impactful until it goes really bad.
01:31:56.000 When I was working on the Iron Man project...
01:31:58.000 What is the Iron Man project?
01:32:00.000 It was the Iron Man project.
01:32:03.000 What does that mean?
01:32:03.000 So we're trying to build the suit.
01:32:05.000 Really?
01:32:06.000 We've been working on it for a long time.
01:32:07.000 I didn't know about this.
01:32:08.000 I was on the beginning of the project.
01:32:09.000 It was called Carnivore at first and a few other names.
01:32:11.000 But in the beginning, there was only a small handful of us working on it.
01:32:14.000 What are they using to make the body suit out of?
01:32:17.000 It's changed so much right now that it's all kinds of materials.
01:32:21.000 I mean, titanium, carbon fiber, all the top stuff.
01:32:24.000 And is it supposed to be able to fly?
01:32:26.000 It's going to do a lot of stuff.
01:32:28.000 Does it have an exoskeleton, so it's stronger?
01:32:30.000 It's exo, yeah.
01:32:31.000 It's much stronger.
01:32:31.000 You can carry a thousand pounds.
01:32:33.000 You can do a lot.
01:32:34.000 I've seen that stuff.
01:32:35.000 That stuff's wild.
01:32:36.000 We're getting there, but if you think about that kind of a suit, that exoskeleton, How are you going to move that exoskeleton, those people?
01:32:44.000 So if you had a squad, let's just say you had 12 dudes in those exoskeletons, what airplane are you going to use?
01:32:50.000 What homevees?
01:32:51.000 What vehicles?
01:32:52.000 How are you going to get these guys around?
01:32:53.000 What boats?
01:32:53.000 How heavy are those things?
01:32:54.000 It changes everything.
01:32:56.000 They're a thousand pounds.
01:32:58.000 Jesus Christ.
01:32:59.000 So you can only get a couple of those on a plane.
01:33:02.000 Yeah, maybe four.
01:33:03.000 I don't know.
01:33:04.000 But that's one of the issues that we're running into is the fact that if we start going in this direction, we start going to exoskeletons, we have to change everything else.
01:33:11.000 That makes sense.
01:33:12.000 And when we were doing it, it was like the long pole in a tent for the, you know, and I was on these think tanks and I was always like the innovator.
01:33:19.000 I was a weird SEAL. You already know that, I guess.
01:33:22.000 Well, I guess.
01:33:23.000 We'll get to that part.
01:33:24.000 I was the techie part.
01:33:25.000 I was very technical, and I was working a lot of the national laboratories.
01:33:30.000 So all the places that we built, the Manhattan Project, we still have all those facilities all around.
01:33:36.000 And so we still use them.
01:33:37.000 We work with them, and we try to push the envelope for military and civilian use.
01:33:41.000 So there's a lot of things that I was part innovator, inventor of stuff that's gone to the civilian world.
01:33:49.000 The Iron Man project was really cool.
01:33:51.000 And what are they powering it with?
01:33:53.000 That's the problem, was that I'm pulling a tent.
01:33:55.000 I kept talking to them, and I was working with all the national labs, Pacific Northwest and all those guys.
01:33:59.000 And nuclear battery was pretty much the only way you can go.
01:34:04.000 So it'd be a little battery about that big.
01:34:07.000 Bro.
01:34:07.000 I don't even like having a cell phone in my pocket.
01:34:10.000 But we've had those little nuclear batteries since the 50s, so it's no big deal.
01:34:13.000 But those nuclear batteries, like, how dangerous is it for a human being to be around it?
01:34:19.000 How dangerous is it to be in a military?
01:34:21.000 That's true, too.
01:34:22.000 We jump out of airplanes at 30,000 feet.
01:34:24.000 But I feel like if you wore that thing around, you got horrible bone cancer because of it.
01:34:29.000 Yeah, you got lead shielding and a bunch of other shielding and stuff.
01:34:32.000 But the thing is, there's so much power and there's so much everything else.
01:34:35.000 We were using the hypersonic flywheels and using all this other stuff.
01:34:39.000 We were trying to do energy storage in all kinds of different ways.
01:34:43.000 Is there a way to shield it so that a person can be in direct contact and not receive...
01:34:49.000 You carry it around in a suitcase.
01:34:50.000 Really?
01:34:51.000 Yeah.
01:34:52.000 Jesus Christ.
01:34:54.000 Yeah, there's a couple of them.
01:34:56.000 Isn't it funny?
01:34:56.000 That's one of the things that we're scared of the most.
01:34:58.000 I have to be careful of some of the stuff I say.
01:35:00.000 I'm constantly going...
01:35:02.000 Are you saying stuff that you're not...
01:35:03.000 You could edit it out if you're saying stuff that's classified.
01:35:06.000 Iron Man is not classified anymore.
01:35:07.000 They've talked about it.
01:35:08.000 I think it's in Popular Mechanics now.
01:35:10.000 But I think some of the people that worked on it are still classified, and some of the stuff they're doing now is probably classified.
01:35:15.000 But this is all data.
01:35:17.000 Is that a situation where as new technology comes out, then they revise it?
01:35:22.000 Yeah, constantly.
01:35:23.000 So they're always working on it, but it's not ready?
01:35:25.000 We're always working on it.
01:35:26.000 So it's usable, some of the pieces.
01:35:29.000 Like right now, I mean, my back is just toast.
01:35:31.000 All the SEAL Team guys, because we carry those large rucksacks and constantly out there, you know, free-falling, jumping, parachuting, all that stuff.
01:35:38.000 Our backs are just toast.
01:35:40.000 So what we're trying to do is trying to get it just first as like load carrying.
01:35:44.000 And so they made it try—and that was one of my biggest pushes in the beginning of Iron Man was I said we need to build everything as non-energy consumption.
01:35:53.000 Everything has to be, you know, pneumatic or springs or somehow using our body to propel everything.
01:36:01.000 Because if this whole thing shuts down, the battery turns off, you have to still be able to move, a little bit at least, to be able to get over from here to cover over there.
01:36:10.000 You still have to be able to move it.
01:36:11.000 So it's a thousand pounds.
01:36:12.000 How do you move that thing if there's no power?
01:36:14.000 How would you?
01:36:15.000 Is that possible?
01:36:16.000 Where the direction they went in was the direction I didn't want to go, was you can't now.
01:36:21.000 You can't.
01:36:22.000 You're going to be stuck.
01:36:23.000 So the power goes off and you're frozen there.
01:36:24.000 Yeah.
01:36:25.000 Oh my god.
01:36:26.000 It's big.
01:36:26.000 Imagine if you were in the middle of some sort of an operation and there was a solar flare.
01:36:31.000 Yeah.
01:36:31.000 And the solar flare nukes all the electricity.
01:36:34.000 Or EMP or something.
01:36:34.000 Yeah.
01:36:35.000 You're screwed.
01:36:35.000 Yeah.
01:36:36.000 Fuck.
01:36:38.000 Jesus Christ.
01:36:39.000 I mean, that's where we're going now.
01:36:40.000 A thousand pounds, I mean, how the fuck could you move it?
01:36:42.000 How could you if you're stuck in a thousand pound robot?
01:36:45.000 Yeah.
01:36:47.000 You're done.
01:36:48.000 That's what it looks like right now?
01:36:49.000 Yeah, so these things are still tethered, a lot of those.
01:36:52.000 Okay, so that is the exoskeleton goes down his legs, and that's those things on his legs?
01:36:58.000 Yeah, but that's even a way newer.
01:37:00.000 That's CGI. I don't know if that's a real one.
01:37:03.000 But it's pretty much like that.
01:37:04.000 It attaches here around your waist, and it kind of works off your hips.
01:37:09.000 So this is one right here?
01:37:10.000 And so you see he's got this?
01:37:12.000 He's got it on his legs right there.
01:37:13.000 It's down the sides.
01:37:13.000 So that's a regular one with no power.
01:37:16.000 So that's an unpowered one.
01:37:17.000 So inside of these little things on his legs, and up around his waist, it might be slightly powered, but those things on his legs, and he'll have up there will be like a piston.
01:37:26.000 Really?
01:37:26.000 And then that will be, as you're moving your leg, it all works off your own kinetics.
01:37:31.000 You know, it's all off of my kinetics.
01:37:32.000 And it helps you move?
01:37:32.000 Yeah.
01:37:33.000 And it can carry large weights.
01:37:34.000 So you can go faster and carry a lot more weight.
01:37:37.000 Why don't I have one of those in my life?
01:37:38.000 I need to buy one of those.
01:37:40.000 Paralyzed people, they've got...
01:37:41.000 Run up hills.
01:37:41.000 They work with paralyzed people?
01:37:42.000 Yeah, they have people that are paralyzed and they can attach all this stuff to them and they can walk around and do it.
01:37:46.000 So this one is powered.
01:37:48.000 And see the way he's got a thing on his heels like that?
01:37:50.000 Yeah.
01:37:50.000 That was a big thing because when you step, your feet pivot somewhat.
01:37:54.000 So you have to watch these things and where you put it and how it goes.
01:37:57.000 There's so much to this thing.
01:37:58.000 You would not believe it.
01:37:59.000 It's wild.
01:38:00.000 There's a lot of technology in that right there alone.
01:38:03.000 And so ultimately they want it where it covers your body like an Iron Man or is that just...
01:38:08.000 A lot more.
01:38:08.000 That's the ultimate would be when you start putting armor and everything on it.
01:38:11.000 So you can see that guy right there.
01:38:12.000 That's a little bit more...
01:38:14.000 That's more like it.
01:38:15.000 And so that's all lightweight stuff.
01:38:17.000 It's hobo cop shit.
01:38:19.000 That's wild.
01:38:20.000 And so that's the direction we're going in.
01:38:21.000 But you can see even that guy right there, he's going to have a hard time getting in and out of vehicles and doing a lot of stuff.
01:38:26.000 So as you keep adding this stuff on there, we get bigger and bigger.
01:38:29.000 Look how big that guy is.
01:38:31.000 He'd have a real tough time getting inside of any vehicles.
01:38:34.000 Yeah, and he definitely is not driving anywhere.
01:38:36.000 So that's what?
01:38:37.000 The pros and cons.
01:38:38.000 It's like, yeah, we have all this, we have that, but now we have to redo the vehicles, we've got to do this.
01:38:42.000 There's a lot to it.
01:38:42.000 Oh, that might be...
01:38:44.000 If you look up Carnivore, it might show up the first one.
01:38:47.000 How far do you think they are from developing autonomous robots that replace people anyway in these situations?
01:38:54.000 We already have them.
01:38:55.000 Think so?
01:38:55.000 With weapons?
01:38:56.000 The stuff I was working on 10 and 15, 20 years ago, and how fast we were advancing back then.
01:39:03.000 So I would walk into a place, and it would be a chip manufacturer for us to do our sneaky-peaky bugs and stuff.
01:39:10.000 And I would show them and say, hey, this is what we're working with right now.
01:39:13.000 And we would give them three million bucks, make it half that size.
01:39:16.000 And it's all we would get to say, here's three million, half the size.
01:39:20.000 And then within six months, they'd give it to us, here, half the size.
01:39:23.000 And so when we were doing it, and for my budget, I think I had like $60 million.
01:39:28.000 And it's huge budgets when you get to the top levels of the seals.
01:39:33.000 And we really push it, and we're constantly pushing these envelopes of technology.
01:39:37.000 And so you can kind of see, like even when I was there, I know the sizes.
01:39:40.000 And I know that you can have a chip, and you have a chip inside of a chip, and a chip, and a chip, and a chip.
01:39:45.000 So you can go all these layers, all this stuff, you start digging.
01:39:48.000 And then every time you have the chip, There's a lot of subroutines, subprograms, and everything else you can put into them.
01:39:55.000 It's just mind-blowing how advanced we are.
01:39:57.000 So when you say, do we have autonomous right now?
01:39:59.000 We have airplanes, vehicles, we have all of it already.
01:40:04.000 We're fully capable right now to go almost autonomous in warfare.
01:40:07.000 That's crazy.
01:40:08.000 Do you think they'll develop like a humanoid-type robot, or do you think they'll keep everything to that, you know, they have that sort of dog-shaped one that you see, the four-legged one?
01:40:17.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:40:17.000 It seems like that would maybe have some advantages in terms of maneuverability with the four legs.
01:40:23.000 Yeah, with carrying those heavy loads.
01:40:26.000 Those are just mules, so those are only going to bring us equipment back and forth.
01:40:30.000 You don't think they'll use those to shoot guns?
01:40:32.000 Oh yeah, yeah.
01:40:32.000 We already have guns on those.
01:40:33.000 Really?
01:40:34.000 They're already gunned up.
01:40:35.000 They probably won't show a lot of the guns on those things.
01:40:37.000 And so when you would operate that, you could operate that remotely and just be connected by satellite or something like that?
01:40:44.000 By whatever connection you can, yeah.
01:40:45.000 Satellite or even long range, you know, HF. But you hook it up and you have your eye reticle and then that's directly eye reticle with the sight and everything in it to the robot with the gun on it.
01:40:56.000 So wherever I'm looking at, the gun is going.
01:40:58.000 So I can look and I can see what he's looking at, I can see what I'm looking at and then put them both over each other and then take my shots from the robot or myself.
01:41:06.000 Oh my God.
01:41:07.000 Yeah, whatever target.
01:41:08.000 They always would talk about that in video games, that that was eventually going to replace your mouse cursor.
01:41:12.000 It was going to be your eyes.
01:41:14.000 Yeah, eyes.
01:41:14.000 And then, like, it somehow or another focuses.
01:41:16.000 So, like, if you think if you're playing a game and you have triggers in your fingers and you're, like, in a first-person shooter, like Quake or something like that, if you're aiming with your actual eyes, wouldn't that be way better?
01:41:26.000 Oh, yeah.
01:41:26.000 And you saw the cursor move.
01:41:28.000 Yeah.
01:41:29.000 But maybe you'd get a fucking horrible headache, though.
01:41:31.000 At the end of the day, your neck would probably be killing you, right?
01:41:33.000 Well, you know, the Harriers...
01:41:34.000 Because you'd be doing this all the time.
01:41:36.000 Your neck would probably freak the fuck out, wouldn't it, Jamie?
01:41:38.000 Doesn't that make sense?
01:41:39.000 If you were playing a video game and you were using your head as the cursor, so that's what this guy's doing?
01:41:45.000 Oh my god, this is amazing.
01:41:47.000 So just stick that on the robot, there's a guy.
01:41:49.000 Oh my god, this is amazing.
01:41:50.000 So what we're looking at is a man in a cockpit, and as he moves his head up and down, the gun below moves exactly where his vision is.
01:41:59.000 That's wild.
01:41:59.000 So here's how our Marine Corps guy almost killed an entire SEAL Team platoon.
01:42:02.000 Oh no.
01:42:04.000 He was flying up there, and he was in a Harrier.
01:42:08.000 I think it was a fast mover.
01:42:08.000 But they also have stuff like this.
01:42:10.000 I'm pretty sure it was a Harrier, but he had it hooked up to his helmet like that.
01:42:16.000 And he also had to press to talk to talk to us.
01:42:18.000 And so we're on the ground, and he's flying past us like this.
01:42:21.000 We're all down here, and he's looking down through his cockpit window.
01:42:25.000 And the gun is pointing down.
01:42:26.000 He didn't hit.
01:42:27.000 Yeah, he's looking right at us with his gun.
01:42:29.000 No.
01:42:29.000 And so instead of pushing the push to top, he hit the trigger and started blasting at us.
01:42:33.000 No!
01:42:33.000 And that was like one of the big guns.
01:42:35.000 That was bigger than that.
01:42:36.000 No!
01:42:36.000 It was a Vulcan.
01:42:37.000 It was a big gun.
01:42:38.000 Holy shit.
01:42:38.000 And so he just started blasting at us.
01:42:40.000 Oh my god.
01:42:41.000 So they always had the wingman.
01:42:42.000 The wingman, dude's flying like this, shooting at us.
01:42:44.000 The guy up here was going, Winchester, Winchester!
01:42:46.000 He was yelling, Winchester is out.
01:42:49.000 And the guy was going, oh, fuck.
01:42:50.000 And everybody started freaking out.
01:42:52.000 We're down there just trying to get away.
01:42:53.000 But yeah, it was pretty bad.
01:42:54.000 It was hairy.
01:42:54.000 How many rounds did he let off?
01:42:57.000 I had like 8 or 10. Not that many.
01:42:59.000 Not that many!
01:43:00.000 Not that many!
01:43:01.000 And we're like, oh man!
01:43:04.000 And then they kind of owed us.
01:43:05.000 So there's a video out there somewhere.
01:43:07.000 Because then they owed us.
01:43:08.000 Because we knew what happened.
01:43:09.000 Because we heard the guy yelling Winchester.
01:43:10.000 Because we had the comms and everything.
01:43:11.000 We're like, oh fuck!
01:43:13.000 And so we told him, he said, hey, that Winchester, can you guys do a real low-level fly-by for us?
01:43:21.000 Help us out a little bit?
01:43:22.000 And they were like, okay.
01:43:23.000 And so those guys went, I swear to God, man, they were 20 feet off the deck.
01:43:27.000 These guys went...
01:43:28.000 Almost breaking the speed of sound.
01:43:32.000 Just barely off the deck.
01:43:34.000 When they went by, it was throwing us down.
01:43:37.000 It moved us.
01:43:38.000 It was like throwing guys to the ground because they were so low.
01:43:41.000 We were like, yeah!
01:43:42.000 We're like, okay, we'll forgive that.
01:43:43.000 You didn't kill anybody and you gave us a nice flyby.
01:43:46.000 Glad you didn't kill anybody.
01:43:47.000 Holy shit.
01:43:48.000 It was nuts.
01:43:50.000 September 11th happened.
01:43:52.000 Right after September 11th, I was working in...
01:43:55.000 Where the fuck is it?
01:43:58.000 Palmdale working in Palmdale film and fear factor, and that's near I think it's Edwards is out in that direction Edwards Air Force Base.
01:44:07.000 Yeah, and they were flying just out of LA. Yeah, yeah, they had stealth bombers or fire overhead.
01:44:13.000 I was like holy shit When you see one of those you're like that's from another planet.
01:44:19.000 There's no way that's ours It seems so much like a UFO and It's also so big, and it looks like it's going slow.
01:44:26.000 Because it's so big, you're like, it looks like it's going like this.
01:44:29.000 It's just hovering.
01:44:30.000 You're like, no, that thing's still going like 400 miles an hour, but it's so big, it doesn't look like it moves.
01:44:34.000 It looks so much like a spaceship.
01:44:36.000 It was one of those, and it was another different one that's like a dark-colored one that they use to avoid radar.
01:44:46.000 I don't know.
01:44:46.000 How many of them do they have that do that?
01:44:49.000 How many different jets do they have that look like a stealth bomber?
01:44:53.000 I don't know.
01:44:53.000 I think there's only three or four.
01:44:55.000 There's not that many.
01:44:56.000 I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly, we saw two.
01:44:59.000 It's a long time ago.
01:45:00.000 My memory sucks about this.
01:45:01.000 But I do remember seeing the stealth bomber flying going, I feel like this is Star Wars.
01:45:07.000 I feel like this is...
01:45:09.000 We have a boat built like that too.
01:45:11.000 Really?
01:45:11.000 Yeah.
01:45:12.000 And does it do the same thing?
01:45:14.000 That's it.
01:45:14.000 It's similar.
01:45:15.000 That's the one we saw.
01:45:16.000 I think we have like three of them kind of similar built like that.
01:45:19.000 What the fuck, man?
01:45:21.000 Look at that thing.
01:45:22.000 That does not look like it's from this world.
01:45:25.000 It's pretty cool.
01:45:26.000 So cool.
01:45:27.000 America!
01:45:28.000 Look at that thing.
01:45:29.000 That's incredible.
01:45:32.000 Wow.
01:45:33.000 Look at that though.
01:45:34.000 China, Russia could make US stealth tech obsolete.
01:45:38.000 God damn it.
01:45:39.000 Well, here's another example of how stupid we are as Americans.
01:45:42.000 So that airplane right there costs, what, how many billions of dollars?
01:45:46.000 And then it becomes obsolete so fast.
01:45:48.000 Then we're building all these supercarriers.
01:45:50.000 Yeah, but is that that we're stupid or is that just what happens?
01:45:54.000 Isn't that what happens?
01:45:55.000 I mean, as technology advances, though?
01:45:57.000 But I think it's a failure about how the American mind works.
01:46:00.000 We want this really big stuff that can carry really big stuff, and it's super expensive, and it's one.
01:46:04.000 Look at that one.
01:46:05.000 Holy shit.
01:46:05.000 All of our supercarriers, SR-71, are supercarriers, like the, what is that new one, the Carter?
01:46:12.000 And they cost billions and billions, trillion dollars, and the Chinese have the hypersonic carrier busters.
01:46:20.000 And so we build this thing for a trillion dollars, and then the Chinese build a hypersonic carrier killer for $100,000.
01:46:28.000 They shoot 10 of those at us for a million bucks.
01:46:30.000 They just destroyed a trillion-dollar carrier with $100,000.
01:46:35.000 Well, isn't that just how technology works, though?
01:46:37.000 They're always coming up with better and better solutions.
01:46:39.000 We keep going bigger, though.
01:46:41.000 And bigger isn't always better.
01:46:42.000 Right, but it's a battle, right?
01:46:44.000 They don't know that until they do it, and then someone comes up with a better thing, and then they have to come up with a better thing than the better thing.
01:46:49.000 Like, make it smaller, make it half, half the size.
01:46:52.000 That's the same thing.
01:46:53.000 I want the swarm technology.
01:46:55.000 Yeah, but what they're trying to do is admirable.
01:46:58.000 I mean, they're trying to make a fucking spaceship.
01:47:01.000 You know, if someone makes a better spaceship, you're like, okay, well, we'll come up with another spaceship.
01:47:05.000 Let's get off a better one.
01:47:05.000 I mean, that's how it gets there.
01:47:07.000 It doesn't get there like they just sit in a lab and think about it and come up with all the possible counters to this, and so they get paralyzed by analysis.
01:47:17.000 But what's more effective, a SEAL Team platoon or a battalion of regular 11 Bravo Army dudes?
01:47:25.000 I would imagine a SEAL Team is more effective.
01:47:27.000 And it's the same thing with giant carriers.
01:47:29.000 The giant carrier, or let's have 10 smaller ones.
01:47:32.000 Or have both.
01:47:34.000 We're America, goddammit.
01:47:35.000 We should have all that shit.
01:47:36.000 I wish.
01:47:36.000 But then if we start voting on the money...
01:47:38.000 We have our own space force.
01:47:40.000 Don't we?
01:47:41.000 Yeah, kind of.
01:47:42.000 Jocko, run for president.
01:47:43.000 Please.
01:47:44.000 Please, Jocko.
01:47:48.000 Jocko and Tulsi Gabbard could fucking win.
01:47:50.000 They got together.
01:47:51.000 Tulsi is really doing some good stuff.
01:47:53.000 Jocko and Tulsi Gabbard could become president and vice president.
01:47:57.000 100%.
01:47:57.000 I don't know in that order what order it would be.
01:48:00.000 I don't know if Jocko's into politics.
01:48:01.000 I don't know if he is either.
01:48:02.000 I don't think he is.
01:48:04.000 That's some sensibility.
01:48:06.000 I went through training with Jocko.
01:48:08.000 I got some history with him.
01:48:10.000 He's amazing.
01:48:13.000 He's done some good stuff.
01:48:15.000 When did you know that you were a woman?
01:48:19.000 Like when in your mind did you know?
01:48:21.000 Oh, God.
01:48:22.000 Did you know when you were young?
01:48:23.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:48:24.000 Like how young?
01:48:25.000 Like for as long as you remember?
01:48:27.000 Yeah, pretty much.
01:48:28.000 Earliest memories.
01:48:29.000 Like what did it feel like?
01:48:31.000 What felt different?
01:48:33.000 Because this is in a time where it wasn't generally accepted or even discussed.
01:48:37.000 It's the early 70s.
01:48:38.000 Right.
01:48:38.000 There's nothing.
01:48:39.000 And that's what was so confusing to me was that I was thinking differently.
01:48:45.000 I would always look at everything and I would say, you know, that's kind of what I think more like that.
01:48:52.000 Or my sisters.
01:48:53.000 I would see those sisters and I would see my brother and I'd be like...
01:48:57.000 That's more like me.
01:48:59.000 And I couldn't do anything like them.
01:49:01.000 Otherwise, my football coach, religious father, had a real problem with it.
01:49:06.000 So I would always just hide it.
01:49:07.000 So, I mean, it was always there.
01:49:09.000 And the thing is, like, that's got to be part of the conversation would be, like, when you said, when I think I was a woman.
01:49:15.000 So it wasn't...
01:49:19.000 I know that a lot of stuff I'm going to talk about on here, a lot of people are going to get angry.
01:49:23.000 And I know a lot of people aren't going to believe me or they're going to say that's wrong or that's that.
01:49:27.000 And I like that.
01:49:28.000 That's cool.
01:49:29.000 I don't mind.
01:49:30.000 Please argue with me.
01:49:31.000 Tell me I'm wrong.
01:49:32.000 You know, I want to know something better.
01:49:34.000 I want to know the truth.
01:49:36.000 And I don't know.
01:49:37.000 I don't know what this is about.
01:49:38.000 I do know that humans are strange.
01:49:41.000 And I know that things are different.
01:49:43.000 It's not always as cut and dry as we say.
01:49:45.000 But there is biology and you can't deny biology.
01:49:48.000 And so I am a genetic male.
01:49:51.000 If I go to a hospital and there's something bad wrong with me and I got to take blood or do anything, they have to work off of a male template or a male foundational data.
01:50:04.000 You know what I mean?
01:50:04.000 Yes.
01:50:05.000 So you can't deny that.
01:50:06.000 And that's one of the biggest problems I see right now is that a lot of people are denying the genetics of it.
01:50:11.000 And you have to admit that men and women are different genetically.
01:50:15.000 Men and women are different in biological ways.
01:50:18.000 Many.
01:50:19.000 Chemical, strength, bone density, so much stuff.
01:50:23.000 More people would be on board if that was on the table for discussion.
01:50:26.000 But it doesn't seem like it is on the table for discussion.
01:50:28.000 It's not.
01:50:28.000 And that's why I told you a lot of people are going to hate me.
01:50:29.000 I'm going to get so much hate mail from this conversation.
01:50:32.000 Just don't read it.
01:50:32.000 Because I'm being truthful.
01:50:34.000 Yeah.
01:50:34.000 And I'm saying if half those people would just start telling the truth, then we'd be a lot better off.
01:50:40.000 When you see something like the Lea Thomas thing, the swimmer, when you see her winning all these competitions as a female, but then as a male being number 462,
01:50:57.000 does that seem fair to you?
01:50:59.000 To answer that question, I'll ask you a question.
01:51:03.000 If I was fighting in UFC right now as a woman, would I win?
01:51:07.000 I don't know.
01:51:08.000 Are you in good shape?
01:51:08.000 Who are you fighting?
01:51:09.000 Is there a punching bag around here?
01:51:11.000 Yeah.
01:51:11.000 I can still do damage.
01:51:13.000 Okay.
01:51:14.000 I believe you.
01:51:14.000 I was trained, and I had a lot of fight training when I was in the SEALs.
01:51:18.000 Like, I'm not...
01:51:19.000 Like, if I fought men's UFC, they'd kick my ass, like, in two seconds.
01:51:23.000 But if I fought UFC women, I would probably win half the rounds right now without no training.
01:51:30.000 And I'm cold right now.
01:51:32.000 I haven't had training in a while.
01:51:33.000 But if I did train up, I would be a champion in a women's division.
01:51:38.000 That's a problem.
01:51:39.000 But that's a problem.
01:51:40.000 Also, what weight?
01:51:41.000 What weight are you?
01:51:42.000 180. Yeah, there's no women in their 180. There's not even a women's division.
01:51:46.000 The biggest is...
01:51:51.000 I think the PFL is a woman's 155. So shoot, I would be a champion already.
01:51:55.000 Yeah, there'd be no one in your division.
01:51:57.000 But I just don't think it's right.
01:51:59.000 No, it's not right.
01:51:59.000 And I think we're denying biology, we're denying chemistry, endocrinology, we're denying all of it.
01:52:05.000 I don't mind it if it's voluntary.
01:52:09.000 You know who Jermaine Durandamy is?
01:52:12.000 Multiple time world Muay Thai champion.
01:52:14.000 She was UFC featherweight champion at one point in time.
01:52:17.000 She's a fucking assassin.
01:52:19.000 But that was the point.
01:52:19.000 She fought a dude.
01:52:21.000 She had a kickboxing match, I think, with a dude.
01:52:25.000 It might have been a boxing match, but either way, she flatlined a dude with a straight right.
01:52:28.000 She's a fucking straight killer.
01:52:30.000 She's a straight killer.
01:52:32.000 I would never want to tell Jermaine Duran to me that she can't fight that guy.
01:52:36.000 She can do whatever the fuck she wants.
01:52:37.000 She's a badass.
01:52:39.000 She wants to take the- Just like, I feel like you should be able to ride a bull.
01:52:42.000 You want to ride a bull?
01:52:43.000 Go ahead, ride a bull.
01:52:44.000 I don't think you should.
01:52:45.000 I'd tell you if you're my friend.
01:52:46.000 Why?
01:52:47.000 What kind of thrill are you going to get out of this?
01:52:48.000 You're going to die.
01:52:49.000 You could fucking die.
01:52:50.000 So here's, this dude is swinging hard on Jermaine, right?
01:52:53.000 Oh, so it's a boxing match.
01:52:54.000 Clearly they have shoes on.
01:52:55.000 And he's really trying to take her out.
01:52:56.000 Boom!
01:52:57.000 She cracks him.
01:52:57.000 She got it.
01:52:58.000 Watch that again, because this dude is teeing off on her, right?
01:53:03.000 Look at her.
01:53:04.000 She's trying to fire back, but look at this.
01:53:06.000 BAM! Look at that right hand.
01:53:08.000 Her straight right is a goddamn piston.
01:53:11.000 She's a killer.
01:53:12.000 She flatlined that dude.
01:53:13.000 That's hilarious.
01:53:16.000 I mean, so I'm 100% for that.
01:53:19.000 But what I'm not for is us pretending.
01:53:21.000 I'm not for us pretending that someone who's a biological male doesn't have advantages, especially when we're really blurring the lines of, like, how long do you have to be identified as a female for?
01:53:33.000 Like, how much hormones do you have to take?
01:53:37.000 Yeah, we don't know.
01:53:40.000 And people will talk about outliers.
01:53:41.000 There are outliers.
01:53:43.000 There's a lot of outliers.
01:53:43.000 That is a good conversation because there are people like Roy Jones Jr. in his prime who was an outlier.
01:53:50.000 He was so fast.
01:53:51.000 He had such advantages over the average person just by nature of being born Roy Jones Jr. But we accept that in the spectrum of males.
01:54:01.000 But the difference between what you're saying is that the spectrum of males where you, as a person who's not really training, would not be competitive against the males, you still would be against the females.
01:54:12.000 Because it crosses over where it puts you in like a journeyman, female, pro-fighter level.
01:54:20.000 But here's the rest of the conversation of what I really believe is with Lea Thompson?
01:54:25.000 Lea Thomas.
01:54:26.000 Lea Thomas.
01:54:27.000 Yeah.
01:54:27.000 So in NCAA and in swimming in NCAA, they have a committee.
01:54:33.000 They have rules.
01:54:34.000 The NCAA has rules for everything, all sports.
01:54:37.000 And pretty much every sport you can think of has a committee or some type of thing.
01:54:41.000 The Olympics has a committee.
01:54:43.000 Everybody has rules.
01:54:44.000 And so if you're talking about competition and you have a rule book, And if that rule allows Leah to compete, then why are you complaining?
01:54:53.000 Well, because you have been a biological woman in your whole life, you've worked really hard to get to a position where you get a scholarship, and you get a scholarship based on swimming, and you want to have an amazing academic career, and you keep showing up second place to a biological man.
01:55:07.000 And you think that in your mind you should be number one, because against other women, you have dedicated yourself more, you put in more time, you're more focused, but you can't get over that hump of the XY chromosome biological male who's dominant.
01:55:23.000 But there's rules in the book.
01:55:24.000 So the rules need to change.
01:55:26.000 Right, but the question is why are those rules there?
01:55:28.000 So they need to work on the rules.
01:55:29.000 The rules are there because we want to affirm someone's identity in every possible way.
01:55:33.000 We want to affirm them by calling them a woman.
01:55:35.000 We don't want to detonate them.
01:55:37.000 We don't want to ever question what they are.
01:55:40.000 But by doing that, we've gone into Narnia.
01:55:43.000 We've gone into this land where we're kind of pretending that there's not advantages.
01:55:47.000 Because, no, you're a woman.
01:55:49.000 You say you're a woman, you're a woman.
01:55:50.000 So you could have a penis.
01:55:51.000 You could have functioning testicles.
01:55:53.000 You could still be a woman.
01:55:54.000 Like, that's the reality of, like, we saw what happened in prison.
01:55:58.000 When they put that biological male in women's prison, he impregnated two of the inmates.
01:56:02.000 He's out there...
01:56:04.000 Slinging dick literally as a woman in a woman's prison.
01:56:08.000 It's like we've got that's Narnia.
01:56:10.000 Okay, now we're in fantasy land.
01:56:11.000 Something's got to give.
01:56:12.000 We need to get back to...
01:56:14.000 But it seems like we have to get to that level before we're willing to give.
01:56:19.000 But I think it's again, it's one of those things where it becomes like people get ideological about what you accept and what you don't accept.
01:56:26.000 I feel like, personally, we should accept anything that doesn't hurt other people.
01:56:30.000 Like, with what you're doing, whatever you say you want, if that makes you feel better, I'm with you.
01:56:36.000 As long as it doesn't hurt anybody else, why would anybody care?
01:56:39.000 I don't care at all.
01:56:40.000 I just don't want you to use that as an advantage against other people and not admit that it's an advantage, especially in fighting.
01:56:49.000 And fighting, that's one that really bothers me.
01:56:52.000 Power sports.
01:56:53.000 It's not just a power sport.
01:56:55.000 The size of your hands is so goddamn important in terms of how hard you can hit.
01:57:00.000 It's so important.
01:57:01.000 If you look at the big strikers, no one has tiny hands.
01:57:06.000 Mike Tyson has fucking mallets.
01:57:09.000 George Foreman had some of the biggest fucking...
01:57:11.000 They were canned hands.
01:57:12.000 They were huge hands.
01:57:13.000 You don't grow that.
01:57:15.000 If you live your life as a woman and then transition to male, it doesn't work that way.
01:57:20.000 Or if you're just biologically female your whole life.
01:57:23.000 But if you're a biological male and you're built like Brock Lesnar and then you decide to transition, there is not a woman alive that can stop you.
01:57:31.000 They don't exist.
01:57:32.000 They never will exist.
01:57:34.000 They never will exist.
01:57:35.000 If you want to talk about outliers, Brock Lesnar as a woman is the outlier of all outliers and it's too crazy.
01:57:42.000 It's never going to be fair.
01:57:44.000 Impossible to be fair.
01:57:45.000 Well, you just said one of the words that I always talk about also is I want to talk about equality, which is what we're talking about.
01:57:51.000 Hey, everybody compete.
01:57:52.000 You're not hurting anybody.
01:57:54.000 Equality, but you also have to look at fairness.
01:57:56.000 So what would you do?
01:57:56.000 So let's be as equal as we can, let everybody compete as much as we can, at the same time be fair.
01:58:03.000 Yes.
01:58:03.000 How do you do that?
01:58:04.000 It's hard.
01:58:05.000 You know, there was a Thailand...
01:58:06.000 Nobody wants to talk about that.
01:58:08.000 Nobody wants to be honest.
01:58:09.000 But you do, and I do.
01:58:10.000 So we're going to do this, Kristen.
01:58:12.000 We're going to work this out.
01:58:13.000 There was a Muay Thai fighter in Thailand, and he started off his career as a he, and then transitioned to be a she, and then when she transitioned to be a she, she decided to get the full operation, and when she got the full operation, she lost all of her testosterone,
01:58:29.000 and she started losing.
01:58:31.000 But she still was fighting men.
01:58:33.000 Yeah, which is really wild.
01:58:34.000 So she went from being this elite assassin kickboxer to all of a sudden the testosterone is completely cut off but continues to engage in fighting because it's what she's good at and is just getting wrecked by dudes, unfortunately.
01:58:49.000 It changes the whole game.
01:58:51.000 So it does change something, right?
01:58:54.000 So we know it does, but does it change enough to compete against women?
01:58:57.000 That's the question, especially when it comes to fighting.
01:59:00.000 I think as long as you're above board with it and you tell the woman, just like I'm in favor of Jermaine Durandamy's fight, you do whatever you want to do.
01:59:10.000 I'm in favor of that.
01:59:11.000 But if you want to talk about things like NCAA sports or the Olympics or like...
01:59:16.000 We're in a fucking weird area here, kids.
01:59:19.000 You're denying science now.
01:59:21.000 That's high competition.
01:59:22.000 Yeah, it's not just high.
01:59:25.000 You're crushing someone's dreams in a way that...
01:59:28.000 Let's imagine this.
01:59:31.000 If you're a wrestler, and you're an elite wrestler at 134 pounds, and you're a fucking assassin.
01:59:35.000 You're out there pinning people, and you're going undefeated.
01:59:38.000 You become NCAA Division I national champion, and then you go to the Olympics, and they decide we're not going to have weight classes anymore.
01:59:47.000 Because we're body positive.
01:59:49.000 We can't be using the scale.
01:59:50.000 We're body positive.
01:59:51.000 Everybody competes against everybody.
01:59:53.000 Well, now you have to go against Corellin.
01:59:55.000 So here you are, some 134-pound, really elite wrestler who should be an Olympic gold medalist, and you're going to get your spine snapped in half.
02:00:04.000 By a 220-pound monster.
02:00:06.000 On his lightest day!
02:00:08.000 On his lightest day.
02:00:09.000 There's a fucking photo of Corellin that I posted on my Instagram.
02:00:12.000 I go, every now and then I look at this photo just to remind myself of what a pussy I am.
02:00:16.000 And it's Corellin where he's got his arms wrapped around some guy's waist.
02:00:20.000 And he's hoisting him up and it's a black and white photo and he has the most maniacal look in his eyes.
02:00:25.000 It's fucking incredible.
02:00:27.000 Because he was just a destroyer of men.
02:00:31.000 When Corellin was wrestling, look at that photo.
02:00:33.000 Look at that I mean that is get some in physical form.
02:00:42.000 We need a giant metal image of that, Jamie.
02:00:46.000 We need one of those.
02:00:47.000 We need that Corellon photo.
02:00:48.000 Please get that.
02:00:50.000 A giant metal print.
02:00:52.000 Order of print.
02:00:54.000 Got it, Jamie?
02:00:55.000 That's badass.
02:00:57.000 Doesn't that scare the shit out of you?
02:00:59.000 He scares the shit out of me.
02:01:00.000 Because that's like a fucking 260 pound man.
02:01:03.000 Take the most badass woman any that ever lived on earth.
02:01:06.000 That ever lived.
02:01:06.000 And then have her go against him.
02:01:08.000 Yeah, all he has to do is just identify as a woman.
02:01:10.000 Well, good luck.
02:01:10.000 But if you ever watched him wrestle?
02:01:13.000 Nah.
02:01:14.000 Well, you need to watch this.
02:01:15.000 He was so fucking strong that guys would flatten out on the ground to try to lay down and spread themselves out to keep him from hoisting them up in the air.
02:01:25.000 And he would just pick them up.
02:01:27.000 Watch what he would do.
02:01:28.000 And he would do it over and over and over again.
02:01:29.000 Watch what he would do.
02:01:30.000 Hoist them up in the air and smash them.
02:01:33.000 And he kept doing it over and over again.
02:01:34.000 So you'd go down and he would pick you up in the air again.
02:01:37.000 And just watch this.
02:01:38.000 Look at this fucking.
02:01:39.000 Everybody went for a ride.
02:01:40.000 He just hit you with the earth.
02:01:42.000 He was playing a totally different game.
02:01:44.000 His game was smash you into the ground.
02:01:47.000 Until you give up.
02:01:47.000 Your game was wrestling.
02:01:48.000 His game is I'm so much bigger than you that I'm going to fucking smash you.
02:01:53.000 I'm going to hit you.
02:01:54.000 He's playing a different combat sport.
02:01:56.000 It's a whole different thing.
02:01:57.000 It's impact.
02:01:58.000 And look at it, everybody would flatten out.
02:02:00.000 They would flatten out to try to avoid being thrown like a fucking bag of potatoes, man.
02:02:06.000 He would just pick people up.
02:02:07.000 He was so strong.
02:02:08.000 Look at this.
02:02:09.000 And this guy's huge.
02:02:10.000 The guy's doing so.
02:02:11.000 But this is what he did.
02:02:12.000 He's picking up a 250 pound dude.
02:02:13.000 And watch this.
02:02:14.000 He just hoist you.
02:02:15.000 Boom!
02:02:17.000 These guys are just getting crushed!
02:02:18.000 He just was like, no, stop!
02:02:19.000 He just laid there.
02:02:20.000 He didn't even try to get up.
02:02:21.000 Because he's probably dizzy.
02:02:23.000 And he did it to everybody.
02:02:24.000 Boom!
02:02:25.000 On your fucking head.
02:02:26.000 Boom!
02:02:27.000 Everybody got thrown.
02:02:29.000 And he just had pure dominance.
02:02:31.000 He was so athletic and so strong.
02:02:34.000 And you know, he had small parents.
02:02:36.000 Wow.
02:02:37.000 They called him the experiment.
02:02:39.000 That's what the Russians called him.
02:02:41.000 Like, I don't know what they did.
02:02:42.000 They were doing something.
02:02:43.000 But if you looked at his parents, his parents were like regular-sized folks.
02:02:48.000 And they had this giant-ass baby that looks like he's from another planet.
02:02:52.000 That's the best.
02:02:53.000 Have you ever met a lot of Russian dudes?
02:02:55.000 Oh, yeah.
02:02:55.000 Just like regular people?
02:02:56.000 Oh, so many.
02:02:57.000 Me too.
02:02:57.000 I like those guys.
02:02:59.000 I love Russians.
02:02:59.000 Every time I hang out with the Russians, it's like, dude, you guys are good people.
02:03:02.000 There's so many Russian fighters in the UFC. So many guys from Dagestan, so many guys from Russia, so many guys from St. Petersburg.
02:03:10.000 There's a bunch of guys that came from there.
02:03:13.000 I mean, you want to talk about a part of the world that produces some incredible fighters, man.
02:03:18.000 Like Fedor Emelianenko, one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.
02:03:20.000 Human to human, every one of them Russians I've ever met was good folks.
02:03:24.000 The government is messed up.
02:03:26.000 I think we can say the same thing about our government.
02:03:28.000 If you meet Americans just one-on-one, you're going to like almost every one of us.
02:03:32.000 Yeah.
02:03:33.000 Our government's messed up.
02:03:34.000 And also, if we had the right attitude, that we're really just a community, and if Republicans met Democrats, just like in a regular setting, we could sit down and have a meal together.
02:03:44.000 People could have normal conversations, and that's how we should be.
02:03:47.000 Supposed to be.
02:03:48.000 Yeah, the polarization is largely unnecessary.
02:03:52.000 There's things that we disagree on, but the way that we approach those things is like, our side has to win, and your side is full of shit.
02:03:59.000 Like, your side has no point.
02:04:00.000 Like, they both kind of have points.
02:04:02.000 And I can see the merits of both arguments on almost all issues.
02:04:06.000 They're both full of shit, and they both have good points.
02:04:07.000 Yes!
02:04:07.000 And they're both being co-opted by giant businesses.
02:04:10.000 And you're pretending you're not?
02:04:11.000 You said something earlier about getting rid of the parties.
02:04:14.000 Yeah.
02:04:14.000 And I have, like, a different approach to it.
02:04:16.000 And I said, if we want to fix the polarization in America right now, we could fix it.
02:04:21.000 All of us individuals, the people, we could fix all this polarization within one election cycle if every American citizen registered as an independent.
02:04:32.000 Whoa.
02:04:33.000 Think about what would happen.
02:04:34.000 Yeah, but there's some people that are cultists.
02:04:36.000 Oh yeah, those far left, far right.
02:04:38.000 You're never going to get those guys.
02:04:40.000 But if you can get most of the Americans to register independent, that means that the Democrats and the Republican parties could not count on your vote.
02:04:47.000 So they would lose their permanent base.
02:04:50.000 It would all have to compete.
02:04:51.000 So they couldn't be as extreme as they are because you would lose all those independents.
02:04:56.000 So you'd have to kind of like be more careful about what you say and what your policies are.
02:05:00.000 Because most of their promises everyone of the politicians made during all their elections, they don't really do them.
02:05:06.000 They do all this extreme stuff and all this extreme language, and then to get their vote from their party, then as soon as they get in there, they go middle.
02:05:14.000 You know what it's like?
02:05:15.000 It's like, you remember Charlie Brown, where Lucy always used to pretend that she's going to hold that football, and right when Charlie Brown goes to kick it, she yanks it away.
02:05:23.000 That's American politics.
02:05:24.000 That's American politics!
02:05:25.000 We're a bunch of Charlie Browns.
02:05:26.000 We're suckers.
02:05:27.000 We're such suckers.
02:05:28.000 We just go to kick that fucking ball.
02:05:30.000 Did you ever think about going independent, though?
02:05:32.000 What I was talking about?
02:05:33.000 Yeah, I mean, I voted the last two elections, I voted Libertarian.
02:05:38.000 I voted Libertarian and very mixed.
02:05:40.000 And it wasn't that I thought the Libertarian had a chance to win.
02:05:43.000 It was just like, what are we doing?
02:05:44.000 I couldn't vote for them, too.
02:05:46.000 I couldn't vote.
02:05:47.000 There's so much of it that I was like, what are we doing?
02:05:50.000 Like, these are our choices.
02:05:52.000 And like, no one's saying anything that That resonates with the way I feel the world is.
02:05:58.000 We have real problems in this country, but we always have money for other countries.
02:06:02.000 I'm not saying we shouldn't help Ukraine.
02:06:05.000 We most certainly should help Ukraine.
02:06:07.000 They're being attacked.
02:06:10.000 Where's the money to help the inner cities?
02:06:12.000 Where's the money to help these fucked up communities that have been this way since the Civil War?
02:06:19.000 Where's the money to fix the education system?
02:06:22.000 Where's the money just to put some protection in these schools?
02:06:24.000 How about the single point entry and having one armed guard?
02:06:28.000 Young kids crippled by these fucking student loans that didn't know what they were doing.
02:06:32.000 I was reading some article about this lady that's $250,000 in debt.
02:06:37.000 Yeah, she'll never pay that off.
02:06:39.000 It's nuts.
02:06:41.000 It's like there's a lot of people like that out there that are crippled by student debt.
02:06:45.000 Like should we really like saddle them down with that when they're 18?
02:06:48.000 They don't even understand the concept of time.
02:06:50.000 And they can't even use those degrees.
02:06:52.000 You know, there's people that are 65 years old that are getting Social Security and their Social Security is getting docked because they owe money for student loans.
02:07:01.000 Student loans are the only loans you always owe, no matter what.
02:07:05.000 Even if you go bankrupt.
02:07:06.000 If you go bankrupt, you have a lot of credit card debt that goes away.
02:07:11.000 Kristen, go bye-bye.
02:07:12.000 You have more debt.
02:07:13.000 And now it's all for frickin' bullshit.
02:07:14.000 Yeah.
02:07:14.000 You could do that with those decisions.
02:07:16.000 A business can go under.
02:07:18.000 Hey, the business went under.
02:07:19.000 What am I going to do?
02:07:21.000 I can't.
02:07:21.000 I don't have anything anymore.
02:07:22.000 Sorry, guys.
02:07:23.000 Can't pay you.
02:07:23.000 How many times do those big companies do that?
02:07:25.000 They do it all the time.
02:07:26.000 But you can't do that on your student loans, which is fucking insane.
02:07:29.000 That's totally crazy.
02:07:29.000 You're just an individual.
02:07:31.000 Yeah.
02:07:31.000 Because they'd think so many people would just go bankrupt.
02:07:34.000 They would go, fuck this.
02:07:34.000 I'm just going bankrupt.
02:07:36.000 Yeah.
02:07:37.000 That is not good for anybody.
02:07:39.000 And how you can't think that...
02:07:42.000 I don't think that education should be necessarily...
02:07:46.000 I don't know if it should be free.
02:07:48.000 Maybe you should have to put in some effort to get it so that you ensure that people do.
02:07:52.000 That's one thing that changed my mind a lot during the pandemic.
02:07:56.000 I used to be very pro-universal basic income until I saw how many people didn't want to work.
02:08:00.000 As soon as they got COVID money and as soon as they got unemployment, I was like, oh, wait a minute, hold on.
02:08:05.000 Maybe these folks that are more pragmatic.
02:08:08.000 Half of the COVID relief funds went to fraud stuff.
02:08:11.000 A lot of it.
02:08:11.000 It was like, oh my god.
02:08:12.000 Is it really half?
02:08:12.000 Millions and millions.
02:08:14.000 I think it was more than half.
02:08:15.000 Oh my god, that's so crazy.
02:08:16.000 When I kept seeing the numbers, it was like, oh my god, it's like half.
02:08:19.000 We do have a problem with this generation feeling entitled.
02:08:22.000 I've heard people talk about that, that they're entitled.
02:08:26.000 Because they talk about what they say is disparagement of wealth, wealth inequality.
02:08:31.000 And there, that's right.
02:08:32.000 Yeah, there's definitely wealth inequality.
02:08:33.000 But then they decide that the billionaires have enough money so none of us should ever have to work.
02:08:38.000 And you go, whoa, whoa, whoa!
02:08:39.000 What does that mean?
02:08:40.000 That's not even good for you!
02:08:41.000 It's not even good for you, believe it or not.
02:08:43.000 If you want to be happy in this life, I think you have to have tasks and you have to try to achieve those tasks and you have to work towards things and you have to do things that challenge you and excite you.
02:08:53.000 And whether that's an artistic pursuit or whether that's a physical pursuit, whatever it is, it's my belief, and this is just my opinion, that in order to be happy, you have to occupy yourself with difficult things and enjoyable things and also have a great community of loving people.
02:09:10.000 Those are the ways to be happy.
02:09:11.000 You don't get happy just by the fucking billionaires giving you money.
02:09:15.000 You're gonna be miserable.
02:09:17.000 If you just have all the money you need for food and shelter and you don't ever have to work, do you know how many people would just ruin their lives and never do anything and wake up when they're like 70 like, oh my god, I did nothing?
02:09:28.000 A lot of people would, man.
02:09:29.000 It's a trap.
02:09:30.000 It's a trap.
02:09:31.000 It's a trap with humans.
02:09:33.000 You know, humans have some traps that we kind of identified.
02:09:37.000 You know what's really interesting?
02:09:38.000 My friend Yoni sent me this video.
02:09:41.000 Apparently monkeys share in human beings, like, percentages of alcoholics when they're exposed to alcohol.
02:09:49.000 It's really similar.
02:09:50.000 Oh, dang.
02:09:51.000 I never heard that.
02:09:52.000 That's cool.
02:09:53.000 He sent me this thing.
02:09:54.000 I'll send it to you, Jamie.
02:09:55.000 It's pretty dope.
02:09:55.000 But it's monkeys, when they live around resort areas, they steal the drinks that people leave on the tables and the bars and shit.
02:10:04.000 And they've been doing it for so long, they become alcoholics.
02:10:08.000 These monkeys are running around.
02:10:11.000 It's pretty dope.
02:10:11.000 Drunken monkey's a real thing.
02:10:13.000 It is a real thing.
02:10:14.000 But what's really interesting is that the monkeys that drink the most are the monkeys that are respected.
02:10:23.000 Do you got it?
02:10:24.000 I don't know.
02:10:24.000 Yes, that's it.
02:10:25.000 That's exactly it.
02:10:27.000 Alcoholic vervet monkeys.
02:10:29.000 Weird nature BBC animals on YouTube.
02:10:32.000 So these monkeys are just stealing drinks and they're getting hammered.
02:10:35.000 That's the best.
02:10:36.000 But what's weird is the monkeys that get the most fucked up are the monkeys that are the most respected.
02:10:42.000 It's like their heroes are the dudes that get smashed.
02:10:48.000 Look at them!
02:10:48.000 They're fucking so hammered!
02:10:49.000 It's just like the SEAL teams.
02:10:51.000 Look at them!
02:10:51.000 They just fall down and shit!
02:10:53.000 It's really funny, man.
02:10:55.000 And in this video, they're constantly breaking glasses.
02:10:58.000 They knock glasses over.
02:11:00.000 That's awesome.
02:11:00.000 And in these areas where these monkeys live where tourists are, they're just getting fucked up all the time.
02:11:06.000 The island of drunk monkeys.
02:11:07.000 But they said that some of them realized that alcohol is not for them, and it's a very similar percentage as human beings.
02:11:14.000 That's pretty cool.
02:11:15.000 The ones that are really addicted to it, very similar percentage as human beings.
02:11:18.000 But other ones, they only gravitate towards, like, soda.
02:11:21.000 Like, they find, like, soft drinks.
02:11:23.000 Oh, they figure it out.
02:11:23.000 Yeah.
02:11:24.000 The vast majority are social drinkers who indulge in moderation and only when they're with other monkeys, but never before lunch, and prefer their alcohol to be diluted with fruit juice.
02:11:35.000 15% drink regularly and heavily and prefer their alcohol neat or diluted with water.
02:11:42.000 Isn't that amazing?
02:11:43.000 Neat!
02:11:43.000 They're like straight whiskey!
02:11:44.000 I'm part of the 5% that way.
02:11:45.000 The same proportion drink little or no alcohol.
02:11:48.000 5% are classified as seriously abusive binge drinkers.
02:11:52.000 They get drunk, start fights, and consume as much as they can until passing out.
02:11:57.000 As with humans, most heavy drinkers are young males, but monkeys of both sexes and all ages like a drink.
02:12:04.000 That's exactly us.
02:12:06.000 I think I'm into 5% binge jackass drinkers.
02:12:09.000 A lot of people are.
02:12:09.000 A lot of people are.
02:12:10.000 But they think that it's very similar to the numbers that they find in humans.
02:12:14.000 That's pretty wild.
02:12:15.000 It's pretty wild!
02:12:16.000 I kind of quit drinking, though, because I found I was a binge drinker.
02:12:19.000 So I kind of, like, I drink once in a while.
02:12:21.000 I just have one or two.
02:12:23.000 The problem with it?
02:12:23.000 But I pretty much, like, I cut back way back.
02:12:26.000 The problem with drinking is it's fun.
02:12:27.000 It's real fun.
02:12:28.000 It's fun.
02:12:29.000 People drink because it's fun.
02:12:30.000 Like, the idea of not drinking at all, I'm like, mm, slow down.
02:12:34.000 That's why I still do it a little bit when I'm out social.
02:12:37.000 I'll have my one or two and still have the fun.
02:12:39.000 But I just cut way back from that binge, drunk, pass out.
02:12:42.000 Like, I don't do that ever again.
02:12:44.000 Good.
02:12:44.000 You don't want to do that.
02:12:45.000 That's not good.
02:12:46.000 I think I was like a young, dumb seal that we took everything to extremes, you know?
02:12:50.000 Oh, I'm sure.
02:12:51.000 So I just...
02:12:52.000 Super competitive.
02:12:53.000 I at last got out of that.
02:12:54.000 Super competitive dudes.
02:12:57.000 I remember there's times when you're with competitive guys and they get competitive with the drinking too.
02:13:04.000 Like, Jesus Christ.
02:13:06.000 You can't stop.
02:13:07.000 Everything's got to be a shooting competition.
02:13:09.000 Me and Andy Stumpf one night, we drank until Andy fell asleep at the bar and I just stood up like this.
02:13:16.000 Victory, motherfucker!
02:13:17.000 Winner!
02:13:18.000 Victory!
02:13:18.000 He went unconscious at the bar.
02:13:21.000 That's awesome.
02:13:21.000 Oh my god.
02:13:22.000 Yeah, we started at Sushi.
02:13:23.000 He's great.
02:13:24.000 Andy's great.
02:13:25.000 He's an awesome dude.
02:13:26.000 So we were talking about, like, the way you felt, the way you felt, where you felt like you were a woman and that this was wrong, like you were in the wrong body or the wrong...
02:13:39.000 Something's off.
02:13:40.000 But at the same time, I was fighting that I was...
02:13:43.000 I didn't feel right, but also in my mind, because of...
02:13:48.000 Religion and parental and society and everything else I was being told in the 60s and 70s, I was wrong.
02:13:54.000 So I was broken.
02:13:56.000 There was no real examples for you to follow back then, right?
02:13:58.000 There was zero examples.
02:13:58.000 There was nothing.
02:13:59.000 And there was no books, no internet.
02:14:01.000 What was it, Renee Richards, the tennis player?
02:14:02.000 I didn't even know who that was.
02:14:03.000 You didn't know about that one?
02:14:04.000 But that was a really rare thing.
02:14:05.000 I was a kid growing up in the 70s with nothing.
02:14:08.000 A black and white TV on a farm and going to church on Wednesdays for Bible study and every Sunday for church.
02:14:16.000 Well, in a lot of ways, you're a great example, too, because there's this dialogue, there's this narrative that people are indoctrinated.
02:14:24.000 Yeah, that's what I was getting at.
02:14:25.000 Yeah, and then you clearly were not indoctrinated.
02:14:28.000 I was in a bubble.
02:14:29.000 I was in a religious form.
02:14:30.000 So impossible to be indoctrinated.
02:14:32.000 There was zero indoctrination.
02:14:32.000 It was the opposite of indoctrinated.
02:14:34.000 Yeah.
02:14:35.000 I was being told all the opposite, and so I was fighting it.
02:14:37.000 I was fighting all these feelings because I was like, I'm evil, I'm wrong, I'm not worthy.
02:14:41.000 And so all these minds are going through a kid.
02:14:44.000 Like, it really messes you up.
02:14:46.000 I can only imagine.
02:14:47.000 Now, when did you start expressing it outwardly?
02:14:51.000 I mean, to anyone else besides just myself in private, like, hiding, like, totally 100% scared, not until I was, like, in college, to one of my sisters.
02:15:02.000 So it was very, like, I was scared, man.
02:15:05.000 I was, like, I didn't know what was wrong with me.
02:15:07.000 I wanted to fix it.
02:15:08.000 I was doing everything I could to fight against it and figure out what was wrong with me.
02:15:12.000 And so that was, like, I was in philosophy.
02:15:14.000 I was in religion.
02:15:15.000 I was doing all this stuff.
02:15:17.000 Like, even as a high schooler, I was into philosophy.
02:15:20.000 I was in all this reading trying to figure out what is wrong with me.
02:15:23.000 Can you imagine a kid growing up like that and figuring out biology, religion, philosophy, all of it, and not finding any answers in anything?
02:15:32.000 That's where I was.
02:15:34.000 Were there any books on other people that were in a similar situation?
02:15:39.000 Yeah.
02:15:39.000 There's no books on it?
02:15:40.000 Where would I find that book?
02:15:42.000 Right, where would you find that?
02:15:43.000 In the 70s?
02:15:44.000 I wouldn't even know what word to look up.
02:15:45.000 I didn't even know the word.
02:15:47.000 So even, like, give me a word.
02:15:48.000 So you didn't know that it was a thing?
02:15:50.000 No.
02:15:51.000 Wow.
02:15:51.000 I was alone.
02:15:52.000 100% isolated.
02:15:54.000 Wow.
02:15:55.000 And I mean, I didn't have sex until I was like 24, because I was scared.
02:16:00.000 I didn't know what was going on.
02:16:02.000 I didn't do anything.
02:16:03.000 I was like, can you imagine a 24-year-old virgin in the seals?
02:16:07.000 Whoa.
02:16:08.000 Whoa.
02:16:09.000 Before I joined the SEALs, I finally did it.
02:16:11.000 I think I was 22 or 23 then.
02:16:15.000 What drew you to the SEALs?
02:16:20.000 For military for me, my grandfather was in World War II. He was in the Navy on a jeep carrier.
02:16:24.000 It was one of those gunners shooting down kamikazes.
02:16:27.000 My uncle was in Battle of the Bulge in the Army.
02:16:29.000 I had cousins and uncles and all of my entire family military.
02:16:33.000 And so I always grew up around that military spirit and that kind of thing.
02:16:37.000 World War II, we won it!
02:16:39.000 It was always like this thing where we're the winners, we're Americans, and we did this.
02:16:43.000 And that was how I grew up.
02:16:45.000 All my aunts and uncles were all working in the oil fields and all very tough and all that.
02:16:50.000 My dad was a football player, was going towards the New York Jets, you know, before he blew his knee out and it all got blown away.
02:16:58.000 And it was a big football-working military family.
02:17:03.000 And then you got me.
02:17:04.000 Wow.
02:17:05.000 You know?
02:17:06.000 And so what was I going to do?
02:17:07.000 From my earliest age, I can remember, I always was, like, focused on the military.
02:17:11.000 You know, I was always, like, in, like, the CAMIs and studying military stuff, strategy.
02:17:16.000 So you gravitate towards those things as well?
02:17:19.000 100%, yeah.
02:17:20.000 Oh, I never graduated or gravitated towards anything feminine.
02:17:24.000 Like, I was always trucks and guns and motorcycles, and there was never anything feminine in my life.
02:17:32.000 Well, what's fascinating is you're really, really honest, right?
02:17:35.000 So when you're talking about this, and it's unquestionably a courageous thing to live your life very publicly the way you do and talk about this, especially as a SEAL. I hate that word courage applied to just being out.
02:17:48.000 But just being authentically yourself, no matter what you do, takes courage.
02:17:53.000 They do a job because their dad wants them to do it, and they stay in that fucking business until they're resentful and old, and they realize they've fucking wasted their life.
02:18:03.000 I don't want that for anybody.
02:18:06.000 Whatever it is, whether it's your gender identity, whether it's your occupation, Whether it's where you live.
02:18:12.000 You should express yourself and live your life the way you want to live.
02:18:14.000 We should all share that, that need to let people be who the fuck they are and to listen to what they're saying.
02:18:21.000 So when someone like you, who wasn't living in this world today where people worry about that it's so high profile and there's so much social status attached to it, and there's a lot of discussions about it where it's like in the social zeitgeist in such a strong way.
02:18:36.000 But your situation illuminates the very real dilemma that someone has when they're in your spot.
02:18:44.000 It's real.
02:18:44.000 It's very real.
02:18:45.000 This is real.
02:18:46.000 It has to be real.
02:18:47.000 It has to be real.
02:18:47.000 Why would you lie?
02:18:48.000 Why would you lie about that?
02:18:50.000 Why would I go from the SEAL teams retiring and being like that caveman with a big beard Being recruited into three-letter agency-type work and making over $200,000 a year, that's where I was.
02:19:02.000 I was at that top level walking into the Pentagon and walking into any agency.
02:19:07.000 I had all the badges.
02:19:08.000 I had a blue badge.
02:19:09.000 I had all the badges.
02:19:10.000 And then I went from that to the next day walking in with a dress.
02:19:14.000 And I'm losing everything.
02:19:15.000 I was making over $200,000 a year, man.
02:19:18.000 So did they not want to accept you when you changed?
02:19:21.000 They can't legally fire me, but they can stop inviting me to meetings.
02:19:25.000 They can stop calling me.
02:19:26.000 They can stop inviting me.
02:19:29.000 This is what I don't understand.
02:19:30.000 And after a while, you're just kind of like...
02:19:32.000 And I was at that point, I was like, man, I'm running these programs and I'm not getting an email to go to that meeting because it's that...
02:19:39.000 It's a very private way to not be prejudiced, but to not invite somebody.
02:19:46.000 Do you think that that would happen today?
02:19:50.000 Probably not.
02:19:51.000 That's interesting, right?
02:19:52.000 Yeah.
02:19:53.000 Because what year are we talking about?
02:19:54.000 So this was 2013. 12-13.
02:19:56.000 That's not that long ago.
02:19:57.000 It's not very long ago.
02:19:58.000 Things have changed a lot in seven, eight years.
02:20:00.000 Isn't that wild?
02:20:01.000 Yeah.
02:20:02.000 The world changed in eight years.
02:20:04.000 In many ways, you are a pioneer in that way.
02:20:08.000 Yeah.
02:20:09.000 Right?
02:20:09.000 When I first came out, it was terrible.
02:20:12.000 Nobody was talking about the military having anybody transgender in the military.
02:20:16.000 It wasn't even spoken about, really.
02:20:18.000 Everybody knew it was there, but it wasn't talked about.
02:20:21.000 And then when I came out, the conversation started because I was like, holy cow, how many more transgender people are in the military?
02:20:27.000 And so at that point in 2012, it was actually the Secretary of Defense.
02:20:34.000 God, who was it?
02:20:36.000 Because he was my boss before he became a SecDef.
02:20:38.000 And he saw me come out, so he saw everything going on.
02:20:42.000 It was, God, why is my memory so bad sometimes?
02:20:46.000 Weed.
02:20:49.000 So he saw it all and then he became Secretary of Defense and so the conversation started at that point in 2014-15.
02:20:57.000 When you decided to show up for work wearing a dress, is it because that's official outfit for females?
02:21:04.000 No, I mean, at the time I was already retired, and I was wearing a suit and tie.
02:21:09.000 I was retired, so I was a suit and tie, civilian, making big money, doing all of my inventions and innovation for the military and Department of Defense.
02:21:17.000 So there's no dress code?
02:21:19.000 There's no dress code, nothing.
02:21:20.000 I was a suit and tie.
02:21:21.000 If a woman wanted to wear a suit and tie, she could as well.
02:21:23.000 Oh, yeah, could have.
02:21:24.000 Right.
02:21:24.000 And so did you decide to wear a dress to sort of broadcast?
02:21:29.000 Yeah.
02:21:30.000 Yeah.
02:21:30.000 It was at the point when I was like, I was tired of, in my own head, all of this internal struggle, this internal battle.
02:21:39.000 And just like all of life, everything for us starts in our mind, starts with thought.
02:21:45.000 And so this thought has been digging in my brain since I was a kid.
02:21:49.000 And I was just tired, you know?
02:21:51.000 And so what do I do?
02:21:53.000 Do I start trying to live a life where I can make this gnawing Idea stop and start doing it, or do I just keep it gnawing in my head?
02:22:03.000 And when you did decide to make the move, did you feel differently?
02:22:09.000 Did you feel freer?
02:22:12.000 God, when I look back at that day, it was nuts.
02:22:15.000 Because there was so much pressure?
02:22:16.000 Yeah, I went from that Pentagon, suit and tie, doing my projects, running, making fun calls, having meetings.
02:22:22.000 And then the next morning, I went into a nail salon.
02:22:27.000 And I dressed, you know, in this gray dress and this ratty, crappy wig and heels for whatever stupid reason.
02:22:34.000 I don't wear any heels.
02:22:36.000 I don't do that stuff anymore because I was going through as a 40-something-year-old going through puberty.
02:22:42.000 Trying to figure out, who am I? I mean, that's what you're supposed to do as a teenager.
02:22:46.000 Who am I? And as a teenager, you try to give your teenager as much room as possible to try to figure out who they are during their teenage years.
02:22:55.000 You don't want them figuring out when they're 20 because you should be working by now.
02:22:59.000 You should be starting your own family.
02:23:01.000 If you still don't know who you are by the time you're 25, you have some stuff going on in your head that you need to figure out.
02:23:07.000 And so I figure, I'm 40-something years old.
02:23:10.000 Trying to figure it out.
02:23:11.000 Right.
02:23:11.000 So it's a mess.
02:23:12.000 It's not a good picture.
02:23:15.000 It's a 40-something-year-old trying to be a teenager.
02:23:17.000 Right.
02:23:18.000 And you're wearing a wig.
02:23:20.000 Yeah.
02:23:20.000 And so I walked into the nail salon and I said, I want a full set.
02:23:24.000 And so that's when they actually scrape it down and they add the nail on there and polish and all that.
02:23:27.000 You can't take them off.
02:23:28.000 Oh, no.
02:23:29.000 And so I'm stuck now.
02:23:30.000 And so I did it kind of on purpose because I was like, I'm going to do this.
02:23:33.000 And so it's like jumping out of the back of the airplane.
02:23:35.000 Right.
02:23:36.000 You know, when you get up to that first jump, free-fall jump, no matter if you're jumping daytime or whatever, it's nighttime because as soon as you go out, you're like cutting your eyes.
02:23:43.000 You're like nighttime jump.
02:23:44.000 Did anybody have a meeting with you where they talked to you about it?
02:23:48.000 Nobody.
02:23:48.000 Everyone just kept quiet.
02:23:50.000 No, I mean, I walked in there, suit and tie, put nails on that morning, and then walked into the Pentagon because I couldn't turn back now.
02:23:56.000 I have to be at work.
02:23:57.000 I got a meeting.
02:23:58.000 Right.
02:23:58.000 So I was walking in there and going, well, I'm there now.
02:24:01.000 And I walked up to the first entrance to the Pentagon, which you have to go through a few different badges for me because I had to go into the deep stuff.
02:24:07.000 So I walk into the first gate out there by the metro and show my badge, and the guy's looking at it, and he's going...
02:24:13.000 And the guy was, like, seriously looking.
02:24:14.000 And I says, yeah, I started out as a dude.
02:24:18.000 And the guy was like, it's me.
02:24:20.000 And I said, if you need to call in, whatever.
02:24:23.000 The guy was like, no, that's cool.
02:24:25.000 And he was like, hurry up, go, get past me.
02:24:28.000 Then the next guard was the same one.
02:24:30.000 Then I finally get to my inner, like, down in the basement where you have the outside door.
02:24:34.000 Then you have somebody behind there with a guard, and that's the inside door.
02:24:37.000 And you have one more door.
02:24:39.000 So all these doors I'm going through, I'm having to see people I see every day, and now I'm looking all like, that was the most nerve-wracking.
02:24:47.000 When you talk about courage, and I don't like using that word for just showing up, I think courage is like way more than just showing up.
02:24:54.000 That's why I didn't like it applied to, what's her name, who's the famous one, Jenner.
02:25:00.000 When they start talking about the Courage Award and all this, I go, no, that's not courage.
02:25:04.000 That's just me finally...
02:25:05.000 Well, you could speak to that because you're a seal.
02:25:07.000 Living my life.
02:25:09.000 I'm just living.
02:25:10.000 So for me, just to show up is not courage.
02:25:14.000 For me to show up and then do something courageous would be courage.
02:25:17.000 That's why I don't like that word.
02:25:19.000 I know what you're saying.
02:25:19.000 I just showed up.
02:25:20.000 But you're uniquely qualified to judge that word from being a seal.
02:25:24.000 That gives you a unique...
02:25:25.000 I mean, there's no doubt seals are courageous.
02:25:27.000 It's like the word hero.
02:25:29.000 Right.
02:25:29.000 I just, I'd be really careful when I use the word hero.
02:25:32.000 Yeah.
02:25:32.000 Heroes reserved for all of my buddies that we were remembering yesterday during Memorial Day.
02:25:37.000 Right.
02:25:37.000 Those are heroes.
02:25:38.000 I'm not.
02:25:39.000 Also Johnny Depp.
02:25:40.000 Yeah.
02:25:40.000 Oh, Johnny Depp is definitely a hero.
02:25:42.000 Damn, that freaking, that whole, that whole jury, the whole thing is just a, it's a clown show.
02:25:48.000 It's a clown show.
02:25:49.000 Yeah!
02:25:50.000 Dude!
02:25:51.000 Yes.
02:25:51.000 Clown show, for sure.
02:25:53.000 But I just, yeah.
02:25:54.000 But, That coming out was the most strange day ever.
02:26:00.000 I can't imagine.
02:26:00.000 I was getting phone calls from Bill Shepard called me up.
02:26:04.000 The astronaut, Bill Shepard, was my direct boss.
02:26:06.000 What does he say to you?
02:26:07.000 He called up and says, are you okay?
02:26:10.000 That was the first thing he asked was, hey, Chris, are you okay?
02:26:13.000 Actually, he always says, chief.
02:26:14.000 Chief, are you okay?
02:26:15.000 I was going, yes, sir, I'm fine.
02:26:17.000 And he was like, okay, so what's going on?
02:26:23.000 Because he had all the calls because everybody knows that he was one of my bosses and he was like a mentor.
02:26:28.000 He's awesome, man.
02:26:29.000 He's one of the greatest SEALs that I've ever worked with because he's so open-minded and so inquisitive and so like, that guy's a thinker.
02:26:36.000 Is there a fear that they have when someone does something like that?
02:26:40.000 Were they worried that maybe you from combat duty had some sort of serious mental issue?
02:26:47.000 Like I had a huge break or something.
02:26:49.000 And as soon as they talked to me for five minutes, they're like, all right, well, it wasn't that.
02:26:52.000 So what is it?
02:26:53.000 And so I had to talk him through it.
02:26:55.000 I had to say, this is something I've been dealing with since I was a kid, and I'm trying to figure it out.
02:26:58.000 And I said, I don't know what the right path is.
02:27:01.000 I don't know if I'm doing the right thing or if I'm doing the wrong thing.
02:27:03.000 I have no idea.
02:27:04.000 But I have to do something because this thing has been gnawing at my head since I was a kid.
02:27:09.000 And it didn't affect the way you did your job.
02:27:12.000 No.
02:27:12.000 So why didn't they eventually just accept it?
02:27:18.000 It was probably 70% my fault.
02:27:23.000 Because as you're going through this thing, you're not in your right mind because you're still thinking about a lot of other stuff.
02:27:28.000 You have all this other stuff going on.
02:27:31.000 And I'm going to say, and like I said before, I'm going to be honest and I never want to beat around.
02:27:36.000 I want you to have all the facts because then you can make a better decision about me.
02:27:41.000 And maybe carry your decision about me onto other people dealing with the same thing.
02:27:46.000 When you're dealing with this, it's always on your mind.
02:27:50.000 It's never off of your mind.
02:27:52.000 It distracted you and maybe diminished your ability to do your work?
02:27:55.000 Yeah, for sure.
02:27:56.000 And I can admit that I was definitely not doing the work that I could have done.
02:28:00.000 Let me ask you this, though.
02:28:01.000 If you were supported and if they said, you know, hey, Chris, Kristen is better.
02:28:07.000 Let's go with Kristen.
02:28:09.000 Does that make you happy?
02:28:10.000 And we love you.
02:28:11.000 We accept you.
02:28:12.000 We think you do great work.
02:28:13.000 Without it being easier, maybe you wouldn't have had all this shit on your mind because you felt like, hey, these people that believe in me and I've been a colleague of them for years, they just accept this as just a new thing.
02:28:24.000 Maybe it would have relaxed you.
02:28:25.000 It would have helped a lot.
02:28:26.000 I did have that support from my direct leadership and a few other people, but you can't control everyone else.
02:28:35.000 You can never control how somebody thinks.
02:28:37.000 No.
02:28:38.000 And I don't want to.
02:28:39.000 I can also don't want to...
02:28:43.000 Change the way they think too much about all this too fast.
02:28:47.000 And so the problem was because I was one of the first people in that arena of special operations or the high-level agency stuff.
02:28:56.000 I was definitely a guinea pig.
02:28:58.000 And so I didn't do it right all the way, and neither did they, though.
02:29:02.000 That's very honest to you.
02:29:03.000 I was getting less calls.
02:29:05.000 I was missing meetings.
02:29:07.000 And I wasn't fully in it.
02:29:08.000 And so it was a combination of being super new at it.
02:29:11.000 They didn't know how to handle it.
02:29:13.000 I didn't know how to handle it either.
02:29:14.000 So all those issues, I was in the wrong place.
02:29:17.000 I really appreciate that.
02:29:18.000 I really appreciate that you have that honesty because I think this is such a unique window into someone who's experiencing this that for you to be very honest about how it affected the way you did your job, I think that's really important and I commend you for that.
02:29:34.000 I think it's really cool.
02:29:35.000 We're never going to get to anything like a good solution to any of this because this is an issue with humanity.
02:29:42.000 Just like we said earlier, this is real.
02:29:45.000 I was really going through it.
02:29:46.000 I grew up in an environment where I was not indoctrinated.
02:29:49.000 I didn't know what was going on.
02:29:50.000 And I'm still doing this.
02:29:52.000 Well, you know, we talked about the Heoka earlier.
02:29:54.000 That was also a thing in the Lakota people that they had a third gender.
02:29:57.000 Yeah.
02:29:57.000 Yeah.
02:29:58.000 Then they praised those people because they had traits of both and they could see into both sides.
02:30:03.000 So they could see how a woman would look at it and they could see how a man would look at it.
02:30:07.000 And they valued them for their wisdom in that regard, that they had a unique vision.
02:30:12.000 And I really think that's where I'm coming in.
02:30:15.000 That makes sense.
02:30:16.000 I do it right now if I have couples.
02:30:20.000 I'm right now doing my master's degree, graduate school in mental health counseling.
02:30:24.000 And so I've been studying tons of psychology and all this mental health stuff and human development from You know, birth, fruit, everything.
02:30:33.000 I've been studying this stuff like hardcore now for almost three years.
02:30:36.000 Just stop and think about people that were Lakotas living on the plains in the 1700s.
02:30:42.000 Why would they invent something like that?
02:30:44.000 They were barely getting by.
02:30:46.000 Because it was real.
02:30:47.000 Yeah, it was real.
02:30:48.000 I mean, if there's a better test case, please show it to me.
02:30:51.000 If you want to have the clearest example that people were literally, they were hunters and gatherers.
02:30:57.000 Yeah.
02:30:58.000 I mean, it was the hardest fucking life you could live.
02:31:00.000 And then you had one Heoka.
02:31:02.000 Exactly.
02:31:02.000 And it's that small of a number.
02:31:04.000 And you had transgender people as well.
02:31:05.000 And that transgender person was a Heoka.
02:31:07.000 You know, most of them fell into that medicine person area because I knew...
02:31:13.000 And that's why I said, I'm in mental health counseling right now and I'm trying really hard to figure this out.
02:31:18.000 Because I do think that when I have couples therapy, I have people come in, I can really dig into...
02:31:24.000 The psyche of the male perspective and a female perspective.
02:31:29.000 And when I talk to them, I say, what about this?
02:31:31.000 And then they both go, that's what we were thinking about because I can bring it all together.
02:31:36.000 That totally makes sense.
02:31:38.000 I mean, there's obviously a spectrum when it comes to all sorts of issues with human beings.
02:31:41.000 Why wouldn't there be a spectrum when it comes to that?
02:31:44.000 Why wouldn't there be some people that sort of identify more in a feminine side but also understand the masculine side?
02:31:49.000 It makes sense.
02:31:50.000 Because it's real.
02:31:51.000 It should be just something that people just accept.
02:31:58.000 I think the things like the swimming issue and the sports issue in the Olympics, that's one of the dividing things.
02:32:04.000 It's a sidetrack, but unfortunately it puts a wedge into what should be Live your life like you want to live your life, as long as it's not hurting anybody.
02:32:11.000 As long as it's good for you, that's what you like, good.
02:32:15.000 God bless.
02:32:16.000 That's how we really should treat all of it.
02:32:18.000 And I feel like, unfortunately, when it comes to things like sports, where people are like, hey, hey, hey, now you're getting ideology in the way of fairness, in the way of real equality, like the equality that a woman has to be able to pursue athletics against other women.
02:32:33.000 Things are getting squirrely.
02:32:34.000 Well, think of it like this.
02:32:36.000 What was the dude's name at Ressler?
02:32:38.000 Corellin.
02:32:39.000 Corellin.
02:32:39.000 So, that dude was born to do what he's doing.
02:32:42.000 Eh, he might have been in the lab.
02:32:43.000 That guy was...
02:32:44.000 Might have been some lab work.
02:32:45.000 He was the experiment.
02:32:46.000 Well, see if you can find his parents.
02:32:48.000 Show Corellin next to his parents.
02:32:49.000 You need to see this.
02:32:49.000 Professional football players, professional hockey.
02:32:52.000 Sure.
02:32:52.000 All these people who are at the highest levels of their sport.
02:32:55.000 Super athletes.
02:32:55.000 Or hockey.
02:32:56.000 Yeah.
02:32:57.000 You have all the people who are at the highest level of their intellectual capacity.
02:33:00.000 People are born with gifts.
02:33:03.000 And why couldn't we look at what I'm going through as a gift of Heyoka?
02:33:07.000 It's a gift that after I graduate with a degree in mental health counseling, I'm able to start counseling people.
02:33:12.000 Can't you look at this as a gift that I can see it from all these different perspectives and sides?
02:33:17.000 And I can really help people.
02:33:19.000 There's a natural tendency that people have to pick on people that are different.
02:33:22.000 That's a natural tendency.
02:33:23.000 And most of it comes from insecurity.
02:33:26.000 It comes from You don't ever want to be the person that gets picked on, so when you see an opportunity to pick on someone, especially when you see young kids in the playground, that's what they do, right?
02:33:35.000 They find the one boy who's weird and they pick on him.
02:33:37.000 It's totally...
02:33:39.000 If we could figure out a way to show how pathetic that really is and how bad that is, and it's like the only reason why you're doing it is because you're insecure.
02:33:48.000 If you were really secure, you wouldn't want to do that.
02:33:51.000 You'd want to protect that person and go, come on, leave them alone.
02:33:53.000 What do you give a shit?
02:33:55.000 What's the problem here?
02:33:56.000 But that's the problem.
02:33:58.000 The problem is these people that are really afraid of their own masculinity or whether or not it's solid or whether or not they're respected or whether they're insecure.
02:34:06.000 So they see someone who seems to be more insecure than them and they attack it.
02:34:10.000 Chickens do that, man.
02:34:11.000 It's a pecking order.
02:34:12.000 Dogs do that.
02:34:13.000 Dogs do that.
02:34:14.000 When they find a cowardly dog, they'll bite that dog.
02:34:16.000 They'll chase him and growl at him.
02:34:18.000 It's a horrible tendency in nature to try to find someone that they can exert their will over.
02:34:26.000 Is that part of, like, survival of species?
02:34:28.000 It probably is.
02:34:29.000 Like, with the dogs?
02:34:29.000 It probably is.
02:34:30.000 A dog will pick on that weak dog to kill it?
02:34:31.000 Wolves do it.
02:34:32.000 Because you don't want that dog to interbreed with the rest of it because then the whole species is weaker because now you don't have a weak link.
02:34:37.000 Well, you could say that dogs have been affected by human beings because they most certainly have, right?
02:34:41.000 I mean, you have a German Shepherd.
02:34:43.000 Is that a German Shepherd?
02:34:43.000 Yeah.
02:34:43.000 That German Shepherd is obviously a dog that is, like, highly trained.
02:34:47.000 Yeah.
02:34:48.000 Highly selected for breeding and it's super intelligent.
02:34:50.000 Like you'd see that dog walks in.
02:34:52.000 That dog is like scanning the area.
02:34:54.000 That's not like my dog.
02:34:55.000 My dog is like, hi, I'm your friend.
02:34:57.000 Totally different kind of dog.
02:34:58.000 But a wolf has not been affected by people.
02:35:01.000 A wolf is just a fucking wolf.
02:35:02.000 And wolves do it.
02:35:03.000 They attack the beta wolves, they kill them.
02:35:06.000 They drive them out of the wolf pack.
02:35:08.000 If they think they're not doing their job, they get rid of them.
02:35:10.000 If they have some bitch-ass wolf that lays back and doesn't join the hunt, they get rid of them.
02:35:15.000 We used to do that, though.
02:35:16.000 Yeah.
02:35:17.000 We don't do it anymore.
02:35:18.000 But the thing is, sometimes the guy who doesn't want to get in the hunt, who lays back, can figure out how to make an airplane.
02:35:24.000 Yeah.
02:35:24.000 Or can develop a computer chip.
02:35:26.000 Because we're critical thinkers.
02:35:28.000 Some people aren't meant to be physically courageous and badasses.
02:35:33.000 Some people are meant to be coders.
02:35:36.000 They are fascinated by computer languages.
02:35:40.000 Yeah.
02:35:40.000 They're fascinated by technology and innovation and trying to find better solutions to things.
02:35:44.000 That's their arena.
02:35:46.000 But that computer guy, you're not going to try to make him equalized somehow, like Bergeron?
02:35:52.000 We're going to have him as a professional football player?
02:35:54.000 Well, you could try.
02:35:55.000 Think about football.
02:35:56.000 It's like you're going to get killed.
02:35:57.000 But a person like me, if we were in the old days those intellectual, spiritual guides or those people who had that knowledge because we could see it from all these different sides, why can't we just say that's my position as the archetypes, the Joseph Campbell archetypes, the Carl Jung?
02:36:13.000 If you look into the actual who we are as people and you look at all those archetypes, And we study them, and we say, this is who we are.
02:36:21.000 You can fall into any one of these categories.
02:36:23.000 Why don't kids learn that at a younger age to know that this is a necessary thing?
02:36:28.000 Like, if you're being a bully because you're picking on that nerd, and we need that chemistry computer nerd, because that's where they fall into the hierarchy of who we are as people.
02:36:38.000 It's a necessary thing.
02:36:40.000 I really believe that who I am, Hayoka, is a necessary archetype of humanity.
02:36:45.000 You need the sacred clowns.
02:36:47.000 If you don't have those heoka and sacred counts and styles and all those history, intellectual, challenging things, that I want the truth.
02:36:56.000 And I'm going to challenge you to figure out the truth.
02:36:58.000 And right now we're not doing that because we're so stuck on these freaking stereotypes that I'm this and you have to respect my gender.
02:37:04.000 I said, I don't want you to respect my gender.
02:37:07.000 I want you to respect the ability for me to critically think and intellectually look at this from all these different sides and tell you that this is what I find is the truth.
02:37:15.000 This is an objective truth.
02:37:17.000 And not a subjective truth.
02:37:19.000 I think we mix up subjectivity and objectivity.
02:37:23.000 Everybody is subjective and relative in these current days, this current era that we're living in.
02:37:28.000 There is no objectivity.
02:37:30.000 Everything is subjective.
02:37:32.000 And if everything is subjective, nothing is true.
02:37:36.000 Well, some things are true.
02:37:38.000 If everything's subjective...
02:37:39.000 Oh yeah, it does.
02:37:40.000 That's not really subjective.
02:37:42.000 But it doesn't hurt me as much as it would hurt you.
02:37:44.000 Really?
02:37:44.000 Because I have a thicker skull.
02:37:45.000 You have a thicker skull than me?
02:37:47.000 Are you sure?
02:37:47.000 Maybe not.
02:37:50.000 There's some things that I'm going to let slide, but I don't know about that one.
02:37:53.000 But the thing is, like...
02:37:55.000 The way the current generation is, this younger generation, this new generation of people, don't look at it the way me and you look at it.
02:38:02.000 Right.
02:38:03.000 They look at things so different.
02:38:05.000 But I think they're also more open-minded.
02:38:07.000 I think in some ways they're more accepting of things.
02:38:09.000 So in some ways it's better.
02:38:11.000 But I think there's all sorts of issues.
02:38:13.000 They're less inclusive though.
02:38:14.000 Maybe not.
02:38:14.000 I think it's a fear-based thing.
02:38:17.000 I think they submit to the will of their tribe, they accept an ideology, and they push it with all sorts of aggression on both sides.
02:38:27.000 Both sides do.
02:38:28.000 You know, when people want to only look at transgenderism as a mental illness, like, well, you're pushing it the other way, just as crazy.
02:38:38.000 Like, that's crazy, too.
02:38:39.000 Like, you tell me it's a mental illness.
02:38:40.000 Why?
02:38:41.000 If it makes them actually happy, how is it an illness?
02:38:45.000 How do we not know that people have different ways, like some people love music that I think is dog shit, right?
02:38:52.000 So what is happening?
02:38:54.000 What is happening when they hear that music and they love it?
02:38:57.000 There's something that, I cannot deny their love of this thing.
02:39:03.000 They think things differently.
02:39:05.000 People like all sorts of different clothes that other people don't like.
02:39:08.000 They're attracted to different ways of life.
02:39:10.000 They're attracted to different ways of communicating.
02:39:12.000 Why wouldn't they be varied in their gender?
02:39:15.000 It only makes sense.
02:39:17.000 And why can't we respect that?
02:39:18.000 Why can't we just leave people the fuck alone?
02:39:21.000 Libertarian.
02:39:21.000 Yeah, not just that, but support it.
02:39:24.000 I support you.
02:39:26.000 Live your life.
02:39:27.000 I want you to live your life.
02:39:28.000 That's all.
02:39:28.000 That's what we need to concentrate on more than anything.
02:39:31.000 And then once we do that, we realize we don't have nearly as many enemies as we think we do.
02:39:34.000 Most people are good people.
02:39:37.000 That's the only way we could ever exist on a highway or in fucking cities and streets.
02:39:41.000 I think so.
02:39:41.000 If everybody was bad, we'd be just murdering everybody.
02:39:44.000 It would be chaos.
02:39:45.000 We'd be in bloodbath in the streets.
02:39:46.000 But it's not.
02:39:47.000 Generally, most people get along fine.
02:39:50.000 Like today, we just met.
02:39:52.000 Just met your girlfriend.
02:39:52.000 You met Mercy.
02:39:54.000 You met Phil.
02:39:55.000 You met all these people.
02:39:55.000 Everybody's friendly.
02:39:57.000 Everybody's great.
02:39:58.000 Isn't that most of life?
02:40:00.000 That's most of life.
02:40:01.000 Just like we were talking about the Russians earlier.
02:40:02.000 Almost all the Russian dudes I met one on one.
02:40:05.000 They're all good dudes.
02:40:06.000 Yeah, the idea that we're gonna fucking go to war with these guys, like, why?
02:40:09.000 I bet we'd like to drink with them.
02:40:10.000 I bet they'd be fun guys.
02:40:12.000 It's like, the thing that separates us is groups.
02:40:15.000 Like, the idea that we're in the American group versus the Russian group.
02:40:19.000 Like, one day, I think, what technology, what they're probably scared of, what they really want to avoid, is that there will be no boundaries.
02:40:27.000 Between physical experiences, languages, you could be able to travel wherever you want, money will be decentralized, they'll have no control over people anymore, and then people will govern based on what's good for people.
02:40:37.000 And they'll figure that out.
02:40:39.000 But it might take a thousand years.
02:40:40.000 I hope not.
02:40:41.000 I hope not too, but I think that we have to get to a point where we just realize that a lot of our tendencies Yeah.
02:41:07.000 Or someone gets through it like someone else that might be exemplary.
02:41:09.000 You could see how they can give you some insight as to their struggle and maybe we can all take that into consideration and just treat people a little nicer.
02:41:19.000 Just be cool.
02:41:20.000 Yeah, just be fucking cool.
02:41:21.000 That's possible.
02:41:22.000 I like the tribes.
02:41:23.000 What was that one book that a guy wrote about the tribes in the beginning and really like nailed it down?
02:41:29.000 Which guy?
02:41:32.000 No, that's tribe, but that's really more about war.
02:41:34.000 There was a book that really went into the tribes and why we do it as humans.
02:41:37.000 And I believe it.
02:41:39.000 Tribes are important.
02:41:40.000 We need these tribes.
02:41:41.000 Was it Sapiens?
02:41:42.000 Was that Novo Yuval Haraldi's?
02:41:44.000 No.
02:41:44.000 If I can remember the name of the book.
02:41:45.000 By the way, that guy gets misquoted, left it right now.
02:41:47.000 Everybody thinks he's like some evil Satanist.
02:41:50.000 Nietzsche gets quoted all wrong.
02:41:52.000 Tribes.
02:41:52.000 Seth Godin, is that it?
02:41:54.000 Tribes, we need you to lead us.
02:41:55.000 Is that it?
02:41:56.000 Zach White.
02:41:57.000 Which one is it?
02:41:57.000 Sebastian Younger.
02:41:58.000 Oh, Sebastian Younger tribe.
02:41:59.000 Okay, yeah, that is.
02:42:00.000 So that was like one of the first ones that really liked it.
02:42:02.000 I've had Sebastian on a few times.
02:42:03.000 So he's good.
02:42:04.000 He's awesome.
02:42:05.000 He's a fascinating guy.
02:42:05.000 Yeah, amazing.
02:42:06.000 Jordan Peterson, I freaking love that guy too.
02:42:09.000 Sebastian is so real.
02:42:13.000 Obviously when he filmed Restrepo, he's been involved in reporting from a lot of very hostile and dangerous places.
02:42:22.000 He's seen a lot of things.
02:42:24.000 His insight into the camaraderie that soldiers share with each other is so unique.
02:42:30.000 And that book really does a fantastic job of highlighting that and expressing that this is like a natural part of people.
02:42:37.000 And that we have so much history of that kind of life.
02:42:41.000 Like there's more history of people being at war than there is people not being at war.
02:42:45.000 There's zero history of that.
02:42:47.000 I don't think we've ever seen humanity.
02:42:49.000 It's just crazy.
02:42:50.000 We're nuts.
02:42:50.000 I mean, we don't want to look at that, but if you really objectively look at what happens when you go tribal, that's what happens.
02:42:55.000 You get to this fucking point where you have to be at war.
02:42:58.000 Everybody's at war with everybody else.
02:42:59.000 All the time.
02:43:00.000 All throughout history.
02:43:01.000 There's not one time in history where everybody just says, hey, let's be cool.
02:43:06.000 That's pretty sad.
02:43:07.000 That might be possible, though.
02:43:09.000 But I think it's only going to be possible if we stop being people.
02:43:11.000 And I think that's inevitable anyway.
02:43:13.000 I think we're going to become the next thing.
02:43:15.000 It's an agreeable truth that tribes will always exist.
02:43:19.000 Yeah.
02:43:19.000 But how do we get the tribes...
02:43:20.000 Not necessarily, though.
02:43:22.000 I think there could be a tribe of Earth.
02:43:24.000 But it's got to get to...
02:43:25.000 We need the aliens, though.
02:43:27.000 We're going to become them.
02:43:28.000 I think that's what's going to happen.
02:43:30.000 I really do.
02:43:31.000 Something's going to happen.
02:43:32.000 I think that's what's happening with, I mean, if you look at, there's a real problem with humans right now with contamination from plastic.
02:43:40.000 And that was highlighted by this woman, Dr. Shanna Swan, who wrote this book Countdown, which is terrifying.
02:43:46.000 Was she the one that found in microplastics on both sides of the womb?
02:43:50.000 I don't know if she's the one who found that, but she's the one who did the studies on phthalates.
02:43:54.000 Phthalates are chemicals that come from plastics that are directly attributed to a changing of the child in the womb.
02:44:01.000 So when the mother has a lot of phthalates in her system, it shrinks the penis size, shrinks the testicle size, shrinks sperm counts.
02:44:08.000 And there's like a direct correlation.
02:44:10.000 Her research highlights, and she's legit.
02:44:12.000 Is she from Harvard?
02:44:13.000 Where is she from?
02:44:15.000 She's a brilliant lady and really fun.
02:44:18.000 Really fun lady.
02:44:19.000 She's hilarious.
02:44:20.000 She talks about the reduction in sperm counts.
02:44:23.000 So on her Instagram page, she has a thing called the jizz quiz.
02:44:27.000 So she makes it fun.
02:44:28.000 She's a fun lady.
02:44:29.000 That's awesome.
02:44:29.000 But she's also a brilliant scientist.
02:44:31.000 There she is.
02:44:33.000 Okay, she's one of the world's leading environmental and reproductive epidemiologists and a professor of environmental medicine and public health at the Icahan School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in New York City.
02:44:45.000 And where'd she get her education from?
02:44:47.000 Either way.
02:44:48.000 So they were finding those microplastics on both sides of the wall in a room.
02:44:56.000 They were finding the microplastics in the fetus and in the mother in really large quantities.
02:45:01.000 The book is terrifying, by the way.
02:45:02.000 It's a terrifying book.
02:45:03.000 Because it's essentially saying that we're going to become those aliens.
02:45:06.000 We're going to be these genderless, weird bodies with no testosterone.
02:45:10.000 It seems like there's a reduction in testosterone that's apparent because of these plastics.
02:45:15.000 But also, just as disturbingly, women seem to have more miscarriages than ever before.
02:45:20.000 And they think that that's also correlated to this chemical exposure to plastics.
02:45:24.000 To microplastics, yeah.
02:45:25.000 We found out we did it we were talking about the other day like we're guessing because we remembered that a Certain amount of time passes and you've eaten a credit card where the plastic Jamie thought it was a year.
02:45:36.000 I thought it was a month It's a fucking week one week one week are you kidding every week?
02:45:40.000 The average human being it's a credit card sized piece of plastic because you consume so many microplastics and so many different things and We're just, and it's in our bloodstream.
02:45:52.000 And it's also, it does all sorts of weird stuff to your hormones.
02:45:55.000 It's terrible for you.
02:45:56.000 And it's inevitable.
02:45:58.000 Like, we're all eating it.
02:45:58.000 Yeah, we all do it.
02:45:59.000 And it's like, we're all drinking water out of water bottles and heating things up in microwaves that are covered in plastic and all that shit is leaking into food.
02:46:06.000 And this woman is saying like, hey, this is new data.
02:46:10.000 And I believe, was it 2013 when they published that, Jamie?
02:46:13.000 Do you remember what it was?
02:46:14.000 2015, maybe?
02:46:15.000 That's craziness.
02:46:15.000 The phthalates study where they finally realized that they could make a direct correlation in mammals, and then also they could see it in human beings.
02:46:25.000 But in mammals, they know that if you introduce phthalates into the woman when she has a baby, 2009. So in 2009, they figured this out.
02:46:35.000 And so that's not that long ago, man.
02:46:37.000 You know, 13 years ago, they're just going, holy shit.
02:46:40.000 We're messing ourselves up.
02:46:41.000 We're fucked because there's a direct correlation between the introduction of petrochemical products and these phthalates and then this decrease in penis size, decrease in taint size.
02:46:53.000 Your taint shrinks up.
02:46:54.000 Yeah.
02:46:55.000 That's crazy.
02:46:56.000 One of the best ways to determine a male versus female in like a baby, mammal, is the size of the taint.
02:47:03.000 Male's taint is 50 to 100% larger than the females.
02:47:06.000 Wow.
02:47:06.000 So when their taints are shrinking on the males and the penises are shrinking and the balls are shrinking and they find phthalates, they're like, oh my god.
02:47:13.000 Something's going on.
02:47:13.000 So you think about what society is, right?
02:47:15.000 It's filled with plastic.
02:47:16.000 The more technologically advanced we get, the more we have plastic this and plastic that and microchips and silicon that.
02:47:22.000 That stuff's getting into our bodies, and that stuff is making us become genderless.
02:47:26.000 We're slowly but surely going to become that weird fucking alien with the big head and no genitals.
02:47:32.000 We're going to turn into a bunch of Barbie dolls.
02:47:34.000 Seeing through walls and reading each other's minds.
02:47:36.000 It's coming.
02:47:38.000 I can't read thoughts.
02:47:39.000 I mean, that's probably our future.
02:47:42.000 That's nuts.
02:47:44.000 So I think the thing about people being accepting now is good, but they're not accepting of other people's opinions.
02:47:51.000 There's a desire today to shut down other people's opinions.
02:47:54.000 Do you identify as conservative?
02:47:58.000 Who would you say your political leanings are?
02:48:01.000 Libertarian.
02:48:01.000 Libertarian.
02:48:02.000 I'm 100% independent in the fact that I never vote along party lines.
02:48:06.000 I don't care what party you are.
02:48:08.000 I would look at the person.
02:48:09.000 Are they honest and have some integrity?
02:48:11.000 And what's their voting record?
02:48:13.000 You know, what are their policies?
02:48:14.000 And that's who I vote on.
02:48:15.000 And I think that's one of the problems we have in America is people just stick to the parties.
02:48:19.000 It's like the party isn't always right.
02:48:20.000 It's not always the best candidate.
02:48:22.000 I don't vote parties.
02:48:24.000 If they identify as conservative...
02:48:27.000 They take a rash of shit.
02:48:30.000 Isn't that that old expression?
02:48:32.000 Find me a young man who's a conservative and I'll find you a man without a heart.
02:48:36.000 Find me an old man who's a liberal and I'll find you a man without a brain.
02:48:40.000 Yeah, 100%.
02:48:41.000 But I don't think that's real either.
02:48:43.000 So you could be liberal, but you've got to be a pragmatist.
02:48:46.000 You can be both.
02:48:47.000 I'm liberal in a lot of ways, but I'm very conservative when it comes to fiscal responsibility and actual individual responsibility and accountability.
02:48:57.000 I think that's one of the big problems we have also is that nobody's responsible for anything.
02:49:01.000 Nobody's accountable.
02:49:03.000 It's not my fault, it's their fault.
02:49:05.000 The life that you lived where you were a SEAL is all about accountability.
02:49:10.000 100% accountability.
02:49:10.000 Yeah.
02:49:11.000 I mean, like Jocko says, extreme ownership.
02:49:14.000 Yeah, always.
02:49:15.000 If I messed up, I'm going to tell you, I messed up.
02:49:17.000 And I will pay the consequences.
02:49:19.000 That's so contrary to the way...
02:49:20.000 If I mess up, punch me in the face.
02:49:22.000 Yeah.
02:49:22.000 You know?
02:49:23.000 But that takes...
02:49:24.000 That's hard.
02:49:25.000 That's a hard life.
02:49:26.000 Right?
02:49:26.000 And a lot of people want that soft, cushy life.
02:49:29.000 Yeah.
02:49:29.000 You know, they'd rather be body positive.
02:49:33.000 So I still ride a motorcycle in a club, and I still hang around a lot with the clubs and stuff.
02:49:39.000 So I was at this other motorcycle club hanging out with these guys, and I did something.
02:49:43.000 There was this one area where it was like club members only, but I had something back there that I had to grab.
02:49:48.000 And so I poked my head in a little bit.
02:49:50.000 I said, hey, can I grab?
02:49:51.000 And the guy was like, hey, you're not allowed back here.
02:49:53.000 I was like, oh, shit.
02:49:54.000 All right.
02:49:55.000 Half fucked up, man.
02:49:57.000 Whatever I got to do to pay the consequences, you know, go ahead.
02:49:59.000 If you got to punch me in the face.
02:50:00.000 Really?
02:50:01.000 Or punch me in the gut.
02:50:02.000 You know, I'll take the punishment if whatever punishment you guys usually...
02:50:05.000 What do you give each other?
02:50:07.000 And I was like, ah, $25 fine.
02:50:09.000 I was like, all right, here you go.
02:50:10.000 Oh, that's better.
02:50:11.000 But the thing is, it's like...
02:50:13.000 That's what you gotta do.
02:50:14.000 It's like, if I screwed up, it's like, hey, I messed up, man.
02:50:17.000 Yeah, but don't let him punch you.
02:50:18.000 What's my payment?
02:50:19.000 Yeah, don't ever tell anybody to punch you.
02:50:20.000 Don't let him punch you.
02:50:21.000 I didn't.
02:50:21.000 Get the fuck out of here.
02:50:22.000 But if he did punch me, he would have broke my jaw.
02:50:24.000 Because the dude's like a fucking monster.
02:50:26.000 You don't want anybody punching you just for opening the wrong door.
02:50:29.000 That's ridiculous.
02:50:30.000 Yeah.
02:50:31.000 But the rules are rules, you know?
02:50:33.000 Yeah.
02:50:33.000 Well, I mean, I see what you're saying.
02:50:35.000 But yeah, accountability.
02:50:36.000 It was extreme.
02:50:37.000 It's just like...
02:50:38.000 I was being extreme because I was a little fucked up, too.
02:50:39.000 Discipline is something that one of the things that I love about guys like Goggins and Jocko is like they they preach from the altar of discipline and Discipline equals freedom is one of my favorite Jocko quotes And it's such a great quote because it's true if you have discipline you have more freedom you have you get the things done You're also not as haunted.
02:50:57.000 Yeah, you know when you when you have discipline and you get stuff done those things don't fuck with your head like I know people that are putting stuff off, and they go, oh, eventually, and that stuff fucks with your head.
02:51:06.000 And it's always hanging over your clout.
02:51:08.000 Yes, always.
02:51:08.000 It's always hanging over.
02:51:09.000 It's there.
02:51:10.000 Like, when you had this thing where you felt like you were a woman, and you wanted to express that, and it's hanging over your head, and you're not doing it.
02:51:18.000 Like, it's probably occupying...
02:51:20.000 It's always there, yeah.
02:51:21.000 Always.
02:51:21.000 Yeah.
02:51:21.000 With every thought, right?
02:51:23.000 Yeah.
02:51:23.000 It's like a noise.
02:51:24.000 And it takes away.
02:51:24.000 It takes away a lot.
02:51:26.000 Yeah, that's why it's so important for people to be themselves.
02:51:28.000 Yeah.
02:51:29.000 Like, someone who lives a life where they wish they were doing something else, God, that's a torturous existence.
02:51:34.000 You can't be in the moment.
02:51:35.000 You can never be in the moment.
02:51:36.000 Never be in the moment.
02:51:38.000 Yeah.
02:51:38.000 You're always haunted, but it's the only place you can be most effective if you're in the moment.
02:51:42.000 Yeah.
02:51:43.000 And I was pretty effective, though, as a seal.
02:51:45.000 I mean, I was a good one.
02:51:46.000 I did a good job.
02:51:47.000 Well, is that so overwhelmingly difficult that, like, it forces you to completely focus on that one thing?
02:51:55.000 Oh, yeah.
02:51:55.000 So maybe in some ways it's like a therapy.
02:51:57.000 Just like you were saying earlier about people that get all that money and don't work, they're not doing anything.
02:52:03.000 So when I was into SEALs and shooting and doing the stuff, I would get into the flow, I'd get into the groove.
02:52:08.000 And you've probably been in the flow a few times when you're fighting or you're training.
02:52:12.000 And a lot of people don't know what the flow feels like.
02:52:15.000 No.
02:52:15.000 But if you have that job and you're so dedicated to that job and you're practicing, you get the flow and that's the most in the moment and the most free and the most amazing feeling you ever had when you're in the flow.
02:52:27.000 But you only get there through work.
02:52:28.000 You only get there through difficult things.
02:52:31.000 Through discipline and practice.
02:52:32.000 People who meditate a lot.
02:52:34.000 And I think those things have to be difficult.
02:52:36.000 If you're in the middle of something that's really hard to do, that's one of the things that I really love about archery.
02:52:41.000 Archery is difficult.
02:52:42.000 So when you're drawn On that bow and you're in position, you can't think of anything else.
02:52:48.000 The same thing with pool.
02:52:49.000 When you're making a shot and you're playing pool.
02:52:51.000 All you're thinking about is making that cue ball collide perfectly with that ball and knock it in the hole.
02:52:56.000 It's the same with jiu-jitsu.
02:52:57.000 When someone's trying to strangle you, you're not thinking about anything other than getting out of this fucking choke.
02:53:01.000 You're not thinking, God, I gotta clean the garage.
02:53:04.000 You're getting fucked up.
02:53:05.000 You're getting fucked up.
02:53:06.000 That's all you can think of.
02:53:07.000 And that, in a way, is cleansing.
02:53:09.000 You know?
02:53:10.000 And that in a way, like, any kind of extreme difficult...
02:53:12.000 Like, a lot of my friends that do, like, ultra-marathons and shit, they'll tell me that, like, when that's over, they don't have a care in the world.
02:53:18.000 Oh, yeah.
02:53:19.000 Like, that is so hard that everything else is nothing.
02:53:22.000 It was, like, every time we finished a mission, we'd all sit around.
02:53:25.000 It'd be, like, dawn, because we'd finish always, like, vampire hours.
02:53:28.000 We'd finish at 5 a.m.
02:53:29.000 or 6 a.m.
02:53:30.000 And then we'd all sit around and smoke cigars.
02:53:32.000 Yeah.
02:53:33.000 Sit around a bonfire, smoke cigars, talk about the mission.
02:53:35.000 And you probably...
02:53:36.000 That was, like, the most...
02:53:37.000 You earned that relaxation.
02:53:38.000 It was the best.
02:53:39.000 That's why I don't smoke cigars anymore, because it kind of does bring up some other memories, and I don't dig it as much.
02:53:47.000 But in those days, man, it really was.
02:53:49.000 It was a flow.
02:53:51.000 This was in my mind, but in the SEALs, when I got in that flow, when you're doing the stuff, I didn't think about anything.
02:53:58.000 It was pure SEAL. Yeah, I think a lot of people use very, very difficult pursuits as a form of therapy, as a form of understanding who they are.
02:54:07.000 But you find yourself through hard things.
02:54:10.000 That's why I like when I would tell people just do something difficult I'm telling I know you don't want to but it's good for you and if you but the problem is also people don't like people telling them what to do so when someone is telling you to do difficult things like fuck you I'm gonna smoke weed and play video games and you think you're being a rebel but you're really fucking yourself over like you really should do whatever you want to do but you should want to do something difficult and Because if you do,
02:54:33.000 you'll be better off.
02:54:35.000 Your life will be more interesting.
02:54:38.000 There's a part of being a human where we like solving problems and we like getting better at stuff.
02:54:43.000 Whether it's getting better at writing, whether it's getting better at playing music, whatever the fuck your thing is.
02:54:48.000 Yeah, we like to improve at stuff.
02:54:50.000 And why?
02:54:52.000 It doesn't make sense.
02:54:52.000 It doesn't have to make sense.
02:54:54.000 Trust that there is a thing that you can do that makes you happier.
02:54:57.000 And one of those things is work hard.
02:54:59.000 It sounds crazy.
02:55:00.000 And physically work hard.
02:55:01.000 You need to do something physical, something.
02:55:03.000 Whether it's go on hikes, do some push-ups, take a yoga class.
02:55:07.000 You need something that makes your body drain itself of extra bullshit.
02:55:12.000 Yeah.
02:55:12.000 And that's like hot and cold bass.
02:55:14.000 Like Rudy Reyes.
02:55:15.000 Did you ever have Rudy Reyes on a show?
02:55:17.000 No, I have not.
02:55:17.000 Dude, it's awesome.
02:55:18.000 You gotta try to get him someday.
02:55:20.000 What does Rudy Reyes do?
02:55:21.000 He's a Marine Corps sniper and he's started a project called Project Blue something...
02:55:27.000 Cleaning the ocean up and building reefs.
02:55:29.000 Oh, okay.
02:55:30.000 He's a super athlete.
02:55:32.000 He does a lot of meditation and mindfulness.
02:55:35.000 The guy's just like, he's a really good, solid, physical, like Goggins, but he also gets really deep into the spiritual and the mindfulness of stuff.
02:55:46.000 Well, I'll reach out.
02:55:47.000 The dude is a good dude.
02:55:48.000 Okay, awesome.
02:55:48.000 You really have a good time with him on the show.
02:55:50.000 That sounds good.
02:55:52.000 And that's something I've been working on a lot also is mindfulness.
02:55:55.000 I have a non-profit called Mindful Valor.
02:55:57.000 And it's a military non-profit trying to help with this whole thing with the 22 a day and all the other stuff.
02:56:04.000 What's 22 a day?
02:56:05.000 22 suicides per day, taking her own life, all the veterans.
02:56:08.000 Is 22 a day now?
02:56:09.000 I think it's more than that.
02:56:10.000 I think they mess with the numbers, but it's a lot.
02:56:13.000 It's a lot.
02:56:13.000 When you look at the numbers, I mean, if it was 10 a day, it's still a lot of veterans.
02:56:16.000 I know for a fact that, well, I don't know for a fact, I've read it, that more people died in suicides that were veterans than in combat duty in Afghanistan.
02:56:25.000 Yes, definitely.
02:56:26.000 That's crazy.
02:56:26.000 Way more.
02:56:27.000 That's crazy.
02:56:28.000 But it's something that I've been working on a lot.
02:56:30.000 I think it's something that Rudy works on.
02:56:32.000 There's Dakota Meyer.
02:56:33.000 There's a lot of good veterans out there that are working on projects to try to help other veterans get through this.
02:56:41.000 It's the transition from civilian to military.
02:56:43.000 It's the transition from a combat mindset to a peace mindset.
02:56:47.000 Also, there's a lot going on in our heads that we need to figure out.
02:56:52.000 I don't think we've fully figured it out.
02:56:54.000 Is there coaching when you get out?
02:56:56.000 Is there anybody that gives you any sort of guidelines on how to...
02:56:59.000 There is, but it's really hard to find, and I think it's hit and miss, and it's only if you're in that pipeline.
02:57:04.000 I think the SEALs and SF guys, I think we have some really good avenues, but I don't think there's a lot for everybody else.
02:57:10.000 A friend of mine who is a SEAL told me that SEALs experience PTSD less because they're proactive versus reactive.
02:57:18.000 He said the people that experience it the most are the people that are locked down in a place where they're under fire and they feel helpless and they feel trapped and they develop these tendencies more often.
02:57:28.000 And he was saying with SEALs, also that they're very high-functioning, very disciplined people who can adapt, that they're a little bit better off at doing it.
02:57:36.000 But then there's also physical things.
02:57:38.000 Like we were talking about, you know, TBIs.
02:57:41.000 Like TBIs absolutely affect...
02:57:44.000 I have some bad TBIs.
02:57:45.000 I'm sure.
02:57:46.000 Most soldiers do.
02:57:47.000 Do you know about the Warrior Angel Foundation?
02:57:49.000 Have you heard about their work with...
02:57:51.000 There's a couple of foundations.
02:57:53.000 There's one that was working with TBI specifically where they put all the things on your head.
02:57:56.000 Well, Andrew Marr and my friend Dr. Marr Gordon, they put together this foundation.
02:58:02.000 A lot of it, they're dealing with the fact that so many veterans come back that have experienced a lot of impacts, whether it's breaches or any IEDs.
02:58:12.000 They develop endocrine problems because their pituitary gland gets damaged.
02:58:16.000 And so many of these guys are super depressed because their testosterone stopped production.
02:58:21.000 I gotta look into that one.
02:58:22.000 Yeah.
02:58:22.000 Also, their growth hormone, a lot of things, are way off because we find that in fighters, too.
02:58:28.000 Yeah.
02:58:29.000 Football players.
02:58:30.000 Yeah, football players.
02:58:31.000 The impacts, they destroy your endocrine system.
02:58:34.000 Oh, yeah.
02:58:35.000 And so they're so sad.
02:58:36.000 They're just super depressed.
02:58:38.000 And then you're dealing with TBI on top of that and CTE, which is so prevalent in people that you would never expect it in.
02:58:46.000 It's one of the things we're finding about fighters.
02:58:48.000 Yeah.
02:58:50.000 CTE is super prevalent.
02:58:51.000 They just barely start to admit that this exists.
02:58:54.000 Yes.
02:58:54.000 And so we need more studies on it.
02:58:55.000 We need more information.
02:58:57.000 Because the TBI definitely messes me up.
02:58:58.000 And my girlfriend will tell you, like, just stuff that she tells me, and I'm like, I don't remember it.
02:59:03.000 I'm sure.
02:59:04.000 But it's also that's convenient, isn't it?
02:59:05.000 Yeah, it's really good.
02:59:06.000 I use it sometimes.
02:59:07.000 Don't tell her.
02:59:08.000 I use it with my wife.
02:59:09.000 Baby, I've been hitting the head so much.
02:59:10.000 I don't remember shit.
02:59:11.000 She's like, motherfucker, I heard your podcast.
02:59:13.000 You remember everything.
02:59:14.000 TBI. Yeah, it's TBI. It's, I mean...
02:59:18.000 They say people get TBI from fucking jet skis.
02:59:22.000 Mark Gordon was telling me that, you know, you don't realize that just, if you're jet skiing every weekend, your brain is rattling around in your fucking, especially if you, like, I see these crazy dudes on the lake that jump over other people's wakes.
02:59:35.000 All that stuff is your brain rattling in your head.
02:59:38.000 And you don't think you're getting hit, but your brain thinks you're getting hit.
02:59:40.000 Oh, yeah.
02:59:41.000 Doesn't know the difference.
02:59:42.000 Soccer players get it.
02:59:43.000 But the physical stuff, like you said, was like a really big thing.
02:59:45.000 And that's what I'm doing with my nonprofit is we do forging.
02:59:48.000 So I make knives.
02:59:49.000 Oh, nice.
02:59:50.000 So I have the forage and anvils and all the stuff.
02:59:52.000 Oh, no shit.
02:59:53.000 And I invite a bunch of veterans in.
02:59:55.000 And then we sit there and we make knives.
02:59:56.000 Do you sell them?
02:59:57.000 I do a little bit.
02:59:59.000 Do you have a website or anything?
03:00:01.000 The website is mindfulvalor.com.
03:00:03.000 Oh, and the knives are on the website as well?
03:00:05.000 Not yet.
03:00:06.000 Basically what I do is I find somebody.
03:00:08.000 I say, hey, this is for a non-profit.
03:00:11.000 Give me what you think a non-profit would do.
03:00:13.000 It's for fundraising.
03:00:14.000 And so the entire non-profit, nobody makes salary.
03:00:17.000 Nobody makes any money off it.
03:00:18.000 If I sell anything, it's to give money 100% back to the non-profit.
03:00:23.000 And so that's how I'm doing it.
03:00:24.000 I gave one to Rob O'Neill and I gave one to a couple other SEAL team guys.
03:00:27.000 Oh nice.
03:00:28.000 And then they sent some money in for the non-profit.
03:00:30.000 So are you like, do you have like the whole deal where you forge the metal and hammer it down and all that shit?
03:00:36.000 Oh shit.
03:00:37.000 I can show you some videos.
03:00:38.000 That's wild.
03:00:39.000 It's pretty fun.
03:00:40.000 There's this kid who sent me a hatchet once, a camp axe.
03:00:43.000 It's Hoffman Blacksmith.
03:00:45.000 Go to Hoffman Blacksmith.
03:00:46.000 Oh, Hoffman.
03:00:46.000 I think I have one of his hammers.
03:00:48.000 Yeah, he sent me a camp axe.
03:00:51.000 It's pretty dope.
03:00:52.000 Is it John Hoffman?
03:00:53.000 Is it Jay Hoffman something?
03:00:55.000 Because I have one of his hammers.
03:00:57.000 The guy's awesome.
03:00:57.000 We'll find out when Jamie pulls it up.
03:00:59.000 But he was a young guy at the time.
03:01:01.000 I think he was really early 20s.
03:01:02.000 He sent me this a long time ago.
03:01:04.000 And that's it.
03:01:05.000 Hoffman blacksmithing.
03:01:06.000 So, Liam Hoffman.
03:01:08.000 I have one of his hammers.
03:01:09.000 So if you go down, scroll down a little bit, you'll see some videos of him.
03:01:13.000 See there he is?
03:01:13.000 There's his axes and shit.
03:01:15.000 There's videos of him doing it.
03:01:17.000 Oh, no, no.
03:01:17.000 A different guy.
03:01:18.000 That's not the same Hoffman.
03:01:19.000 Oh, okay.
03:01:20.000 So they're taking these things and then slamming them in this press and then they hammer them down.
03:01:25.000 It's pretty dope, man.
03:01:27.000 That's pretty cool.
03:01:28.000 I love watching people make shit.
03:01:30.000 I really do.
03:01:31.000 It's so interesting.
03:01:32.000 That's what I was in the SEAL teams.
03:01:33.000 I was one of the makers.
03:01:34.000 So whenever they do all those inventions and all that weird SEAL team new stuff, they'd always bring me in for those inventions and making stuff.
03:01:43.000 This is wild shit, man.
03:01:44.000 That's how they're getting the hole in the center where the axe handle goes through.
03:01:47.000 This is fucking cool.
03:01:48.000 It's drifting the hole.
03:01:50.000 Yeah.
03:01:50.000 So I love watching shit like this.
03:01:52.000 I mean, this is...
03:01:53.000 See, that's what we do.
03:01:54.000 It's so satisfying.
03:01:55.000 I bring in all those veterans, and then we make a bunch of knives, and we sit there around a bonfire.
03:02:00.000 That's dope.
03:02:00.000 And it usually lasts about two days.
03:02:02.000 And then Jim Hoffman, that's the guy I was thinking of.
03:02:04.000 Oh, different guy.
03:02:05.000 It's got to be so satisfying to do something with a utensil or an item like an axe or whether it's a knife, something you made yourself.
03:02:17.000 Yeah.
03:02:18.000 That's pretty fucking cool.
03:02:20.000 That's really interesting.
03:02:21.000 I love watching people create things.
03:02:25.000 I think there's something about a human being and creating things that's so satisfying, whether you're making a house or furniture.
03:02:32.000 There's a video I watched the other day of some guy making a very small log cabin in the woods.
03:02:37.000 Oh yeah, those are awesome.
03:02:38.000 It's amazing!
03:02:39.000 I'm like, why am I loving this so much?
03:02:42.000 I'm loving this guy making a cabin.
03:02:44.000 It's like, I think I saw it on Dig, and it said that it was oddly satisfying.
03:02:49.000 I'm like, yeah, it is oddly satisfying.
03:02:51.000 What is going on with people?
03:02:53.000 I was trying to find one of these.
03:02:54.000 One of your knives?
03:02:55.000 Yeah.
03:02:56.000 I was going to show you some of us when we're doing it.
03:02:58.000 Do you know Andrew at Half-Faced Blades?
03:03:00.000 No, I don't.
03:03:01.000 Half Face Blades is a dope company that is also run by Seal.
03:03:05.000 And he makes killer kitchen knives, chef's knives, hunting knives.
03:03:12.000 He makes really killer shit.
03:03:14.000 And it has his Half Face Blades logo on it.
03:03:18.000 So here's my girlfriend.
03:03:19.000 I'm trying to teach her how to make a knife.
03:03:22.000 Oh, wow.
03:03:23.000 But that's in my shop.
03:03:24.000 That's fucking cool.
03:03:26.000 There's something really cool about watching that hot red metal, too.
03:03:29.000 Right?
03:03:30.000 But I got a bunch of those videos of us doing this.
03:03:32.000 You gotta come up for one of the events.
03:03:34.000 That sounds interesting.
03:03:35.000 Where do you do that?
03:03:35.000 Oh, here I'm making a sword.
03:03:37.000 Oh, shit.
03:03:38.000 I have her holding the sword, and now I'm doing the hammer.
03:03:41.000 Well, let me ask you this.
03:03:42.000 So that's a full-on broadsword.
03:03:44.000 That's a bastard sword.
03:03:45.000 Big old broadsword.
03:03:46.000 It's a cool sword.
03:03:47.000 Have you ever watched those videos of the Japanese masters creating samurai swords?
03:03:52.000 How are they doing that?
03:03:53.000 What is the deal with the folding?
03:03:55.000 Why does the folding help?
03:03:56.000 Can you tell me that?
03:03:57.000 Well, a lot of times when they're folding, they're folding in different types of metal, so they're actually able to do a softer and a harder metal.
03:04:03.000 Then you actually sandwich, it's called a...
03:04:08.000 I'm messing up that word.
03:04:09.000 TBI. So they actually fold a lot of the soft metal into the spine, and then you have the harder metal down more towards where the edge is, because then you can have that hard metal, you can get super, super sharp, but it's very brutal, too.
03:04:21.000 Then if you have it sandwiched around...
03:04:24.000 I almost had it softer.
03:04:25.000 Then it gives you the ability to kind of move and flex.
03:04:28.000 So it doesn't break?
03:04:29.000 Yeah, it can't break.
03:04:30.000 Oh, yeah.
03:04:31.000 Because that's what they're trying to do is they're trying to have the soft and then the hard metal just on the edge.
03:04:35.000 Then you can't dull it.
03:04:36.000 So it's still super sharp.
03:04:38.000 That's an argument with broadheads for arrows, too, for archery.
03:04:42.000 Because there's some broadheads that they make out of really hard metal, but it breaks when it hits bone, where other bend around the bone.
03:04:50.000 Because I'm kind of...
03:04:50.000 Yeah, they'll wiggle around the bone.
03:04:52.000 And people have started to prefer those.
03:04:54.000 Yeah, so I make my skinning knives.
03:04:56.000 The skinning knives are a little bit that big.
03:04:57.000 It has a blade about that big, real small.
03:04:59.000 And so the skinning knife, you want to be super sharp.
03:05:01.000 Because you're in the field, you don't want to worry about dulling.
03:05:03.000 Even if it hits a bone, you want to be super sharp.
03:05:05.000 But if you drop one of my skinning knives, I don't know if I have a concrete, it's going to shatter.
03:05:10.000 Oh, wow.
03:05:10.000 Because what I do is I harden it to such a high Rockwell hardness.
03:05:13.000 It's like a 90-something.
03:05:14.000 It's crazy hard.
03:05:16.000 But it won't dull.
03:05:17.000 It's going to be super sharp skin.
03:05:18.000 So you just have to be real careful about it.
03:05:20.000 Just don't drop it.
03:05:21.000 So it's just like those ceramic blades.
03:05:23.000 If you drop one of those, it's going to shatter.
03:05:24.000 Oh, wow.
03:05:25.000 So just be careful with your tool and use it for what it's meant for.
03:05:29.000 Don't use it as a fighting knife.
03:05:31.000 This is only for skinning.
03:05:32.000 Now, if I gave you a fighting knife, I would have like an extra thick spine.
03:05:36.000 It's like one of the ones I gave Rob O'Neill.
03:05:37.000 It's like a camp knife.
03:05:39.000 It's not a fighting knife because I made an extra thick spine.
03:05:42.000 This thing is heavy.
03:05:43.000 It weighs like six pounds.
03:05:45.000 But I made it so you can chop wood.
03:05:46.000 You can split wood with this thing.
03:05:48.000 You can chop a tree down with it.
03:05:49.000 Oh, wow.
03:05:49.000 And you can also cut food.
03:05:50.000 Another thing, you can hit the back of the knife to drive through a piece of metal if you want.
03:05:55.000 So it's very versatile.
03:05:56.000 It's a camp knife.
03:05:58.000 It's not made for carrying in the woods or carrying around as a combat knife because it's too heavy for combat.
03:06:03.000 So it does a bunch of different things you can do.
03:06:05.000 So if you use your tool for what the tool is made for, it's going to be great performance.
03:06:09.000 But if you use it for something else, it's probably going to suck.
03:06:11.000 Like one of my camp knives, if I gave it to a Marine Corps guy, he'd call it a piece of crap because it's not a fight knife.
03:06:17.000 He'd start trying to use a fight knife and switch it around.
03:06:20.000 It's too heavy.
03:06:21.000 It's clunky.
03:06:21.000 It's this and that.
03:06:22.000 It's not made for that, dude.
03:06:24.000 It's made for chopping trees down.
03:06:25.000 It's made for chopping a cable or a piece of metal.
03:06:28.000 It's made to screw it up and then resharpen it.
03:06:32.000 No big deal.
03:06:33.000 Isn't it interesting how people get so excited about tools?
03:06:37.000 Like, we're talking about this and we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:06:40.000 We're watching them hammer the axe down.
03:06:42.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:06:43.000 There's something about that that's like, it's deeply satisfying to human beings to watch people create tools.
03:06:48.000 You know, it probably speaks to our past.
03:06:51.000 Our primitive man.
03:06:53.000 Yeah, I mean, when, you know, there's this guy, J.M. Whitworth, we pulled up his page before.
03:06:59.000 He's got a place out here in Texas, and a huge ranch, and they sift through the dirt, and they have this very, like, sophisticated method of finding arrowheads.
03:07:11.000 Oh, cool.
03:07:11.000 And they found a shit ton of them.
03:07:13.000 He sent me a couple of them.
03:07:14.000 They're really cool, but they're like these.
03:07:17.000 Like, look at this.
03:07:19.000 Look at this one right here.
03:07:20.000 No way.
03:07:21.000 Perfect.
03:07:22.000 So these arrowheads that they're finding are amazing.
03:07:26.000 And they're all...
03:07:27.000 You've got to think how much craftsmanship is involved.
03:07:30.000 Look how they found that there.
03:07:32.000 How much craftsmanship was involved in making...
03:07:35.000 So he finds this in the sift.
03:07:38.000 There is so much workmanship in this wonderful piece.
03:07:40.000 Look at that one, man.
03:07:41.000 Look how delicate that is.
03:07:42.000 That's incredible.
03:07:43.000 And look, it's perfect.
03:07:45.000 Look how you can see through when he holds it up to the light.
03:07:47.000 It kind of makes you wonder, why are there so many out there?
03:07:50.000 Well, because the Comanches roamed this land.
03:07:53.000 The thing about the hill country, and I found this out originally from reading Empire of the Summer Moon, which is this incredible book about the history of the Texas Plains and the Comanches.
03:08:07.000 They roamed this area specifically because there's so much resources with the lake and the river, and the Colorado River goes through.
03:08:14.000 It's rich with wildlife.
03:08:15.000 Nice.
03:08:15.000 A lot of Texas is desert, right?
03:08:17.000 A lot of Texas is just flat and there's not a lot out there.
03:08:20.000 But here it was so rich with life that they're out here all the time in the hill country.
03:08:24.000 So they find a fuckload of their hour heads.
03:08:27.000 Because this was like a special place.
03:08:29.000 Hunting grounds.
03:08:30.000 Yeah, but it's also like so hilly.
03:08:31.000 It's so different than any other place in Texas.
03:08:33.000 It's very different.
03:08:34.000 A lot of Texas is flat, but this is like all these beautiful hills and everything's green.
03:08:37.000 It rains all the time.
03:08:38.000 And all that shit contributes to wildlife.
03:08:40.000 And so it was a rich area for them to settle in.
03:08:44.000 You could go out there and find some of that.
03:08:46.000 Oh my god, it must be amazing to actually dig into the ground and find one.
03:08:50.000 I found one once, man, when I was on a hunting trip in Nevada.
03:08:53.000 I found a small piece of an arrowhead and I fucking lost it.
03:08:57.000 I don't know what happened.
03:08:58.000 I put it somewhere and I fucking lost it.
03:09:00.000 That's like for the SEAL team guys when we find shark teeth.
03:09:03.000 It's like, yeah, good one.
03:09:05.000 The crazy thing is when you see a megalodon tooth, you go, what the fuck is that?
03:09:10.000 And they're always fossilized, right?
03:09:11.000 They're all mineralized, so they're black, and it's this big-ass...
03:09:15.000 I keep finding these 20-foot-tall giant skeletons everywhere.
03:09:21.000 If that was real, do you really think the Smithsonian would destroy them?
03:09:24.000 No, but why aren't there so many news articles on it in all these newspapers?
03:09:27.000 Because people are idiots.
03:09:27.000 They believe in goblins.
03:09:29.000 There's probably just as many news articles about witches.
03:09:31.000 I was going to say, they're burning witches.
03:09:33.000 They just got done.
03:09:34.000 There's a giant.
03:09:35.000 A few years ago, they were burning witches.
03:09:36.000 Now they're writing about giants.
03:09:38.000 There's a lot of stuff that I think about, I don't always 100% believe, but I do want to look into it, because if it was in the newspapers that many times, there's got to be something.
03:09:47.000 I am, yeah.
03:09:47.000 I just want to know stuff.
03:09:48.000 That's my same feeling about Bigfoot and UFOs.
03:09:52.000 My problem is I want them to be real so bad.
03:09:54.000 Yeah.
03:09:55.000 That I don't look at it objectively.
03:09:56.000 And what's that bias?
03:09:57.000 That's a confirmation bias.
03:09:59.000 Yeah, but it's also, it's just you want a very specific thing out of the data.
03:10:05.000 And so you look for that.
03:10:06.000 And then you argue it.
03:10:07.000 But now I fight against that in myself.
03:10:10.000 So when I get all balls deep in UFOs, then I have to back off and go, wait a minute, Joe, what are you doing?
03:10:15.000 You're believing this because you want it to be real.
03:10:17.000 So it's confirmation bias and there's a whole bunch of biases that we do that we want that to be true so bad that we cherry pick the data to make it true.
03:10:26.000 Yeah, that's a big one.
03:10:27.000 And I know I do that.
03:10:27.000 We all do.
03:10:28.000 I know I have tons of biases and I try not to.
03:10:30.000 Again, I commend you on your honesty because we all do.
03:10:33.000 And it's important to be able to say that.
03:10:35.000 And people don't like the idea of them being incorrect or holding ideas.
03:10:39.000 Like I told you about that stupid fucking thing that I was obsessed with for, God, it was at least a year.
03:10:44.000 The worms.
03:10:44.000 The worms.
03:10:45.000 You gotta see this because it's so stupid.
03:10:46.000 You gotta laugh at me.
03:10:48.000 Find a flying rods.
03:10:51.000 One time I was doing this thing for the UFC and I was doing a question and answer thing at one of the weigh-ins.
03:10:55.000 And this guy who was the guy who made that documentary waited in fucking line to tell me that his rods thing was real.
03:11:03.000 And you're wrong, Joe Rogan.
03:11:04.000 They really are out there.
03:11:05.000 I'm like, dude!
03:11:07.000 They have video that shows the things right next to the same camera that shows no thing.
03:11:14.000 It shows bugs.
03:11:15.000 They know for a fact that one camera, which is a very fast camera, can see the bugs and catch them in their motion.
03:11:22.000 The other one blurs it.
03:11:24.000 It's a video artifact.
03:11:25.000 That's what they look like.
03:11:26.000 Look at that.
03:11:27.000 Like that, like that right there.
03:11:28.000 What is it?
03:11:29.000 Flying rods?
03:11:31.000 Skyfish?
03:11:31.000 A moth?
03:11:32.000 So you see it in slow motion.
03:11:33.000 See how it flies through?
03:11:34.000 You'd say, oh my god.
03:11:36.000 You would say, there's rods with wings.
03:11:38.000 They're flying through the air.
03:11:39.000 But no, that's just a video artifact.
03:11:41.000 It's a bug with wings.
03:11:42.000 And it flies by, and you see it, and you think that it's, you know, an alien.
03:11:47.000 It's moving too fast for your eyes.
03:11:48.000 I was reading, and I can't remember who made this quote, but he was quoting that, If it was sufficient, high enough technology, it would appear to be magic.
03:11:56.000 Yes, yeah.
03:11:57.000 And so the problem with that technology was it was high enough technology to catch the bug, but only partly caught it so it looked like magic.
03:12:04.000 Exactly.
03:12:05.000 But then when you get a higher attack that actually catches the bug, that's like more magic.
03:12:08.000 And so what do we have going on right now in the universe that we can't figure out that we are calling magic?
03:12:15.000 We're just waiting for the technology to catch up for us to realize what it really is.
03:12:19.000 Which is probably what that gravity drive thing is, if Bob Lazar's telling the truth, or if the Tic Tac people are being accurate with what they're seeing.
03:12:28.000 That thing that just punches through space and time, that's probably operating in that way, whether it's ours or someone from another dimension or another galaxy or whatever, whatever the fuck it is that's doing that.
03:12:38.000 Or the magic of the pyramids.
03:12:39.000 Yeah.
03:12:39.000 There's so much stuff out there we still don't know, and I just, I wish science would be more honest with itself.
03:12:45.000 I don't think they're being dishonest about the pyramids.
03:12:47.000 I mean, they never say.
03:12:48.000 We know how they made it.
03:12:49.000 They say these people made it, they were highly skilled, and they had incredible ability to align things, and they did it, and they did it 5,000 years ago with fucking no explanation of how they did it.
03:12:58.000 How come they're not excavating around them to try to figure out what all the subway tunnels are below the pyramids?
03:13:03.000 They're not?
03:13:04.000 It seems like they stopped.
03:13:06.000 Didn't they stop?
03:13:07.000 Well, there's a guy that's in charge of all that stuff down there, this guy Zawi Hawass, and he's very reluctant to accept any alternative theories other than the ones that they've been promoting forever.
03:13:18.000 And so Graham Hancock has had issues with him, as has Robert Shock, Dr. Robert Shock from Boston University.
03:13:24.000 He was the geologist that examined the Temple of the Sphinx and was saying that there's water erosion here.
03:13:29.000 Redoing the Sphinx data.
03:13:31.000 No, no, no.
03:13:31.000 It's the outside.
03:13:33.000 The temple of the Sphinx is these giant blocks.
03:13:36.000 And these giant blocks, they have real evidence of water erosion.
03:13:41.000 But didn't they prove also the Sphinx was so much older than they thought?
03:13:44.000 So it changed all the timelines?
03:13:46.000 They don't necessarily know.
03:13:48.000 But the evidence shows that there is...
03:13:52.000 Something that looks exactly like water erosion, according to geologists.
03:13:56.000 So they're looking at, like...
03:13:57.000 There's people that dispute this, I should say.
03:14:00.000 This is very important to say.
03:14:01.000 But they don't seem to be...
03:14:03.000 There's a denial of the reality of what you're looking at.
03:14:08.000 Like, if you look at...
03:14:09.000 See if you can pull up a video of water erosion in the Sphinx.
03:14:12.000 The images are so interesting because it really does look like what something would look like if water cut through it.
03:14:18.000 Like there's a smoothness to it, and it goes in these fissures that look...
03:14:21.000 But the last time there was water in the Nile Valley was 9,000 years ago.
03:14:26.000 So if that's true, then it has to be thousands of years of water to create this.
03:14:29.000 So if Dr. Robert Schock from Boston University, who is a geologist, is correct, that all that erosion is caused by thousands of years of rainfall, which means that thing is way older than they think it is, because that means that those stones were cut somewhere earlier than 9,000 years ago,
03:14:46.000 because it had to be thousands of years of rainfall to create that.
03:14:49.000 So because of the fact they know that during that time that there was rainfall, it used to be like a tropical rainforest down there, which is also really interesting, right?
03:14:58.000 Like the Sahara Desert.
03:15:00.000 It used to be a fucking giant forest.
03:15:02.000 It used to be incredible.
03:15:03.000 Castles and cities all over.
03:15:05.000 Probably, right?
03:15:05.000 What about all the pyramids in China?
03:15:07.000 Oh, yeah, that's true, too.
03:15:09.000 There's a lot of pyramids in China that we can't even look at.
03:15:11.000 Well, China itself.
03:15:12.000 I mean, think about the fact that they've been around.
03:15:14.000 That's one continually operating business.
03:15:16.000 It's pretty goddamn impressive.
03:15:18.000 Pretty wild.
03:15:19.000 What do they have, like 1.4 billion people, and they've been around for How long?
03:15:24.000 6,000 years.
03:15:26.000 I don't know.
03:15:27.000 Crazy.
03:15:28.000 50,000 years.
03:15:29.000 Crazy.
03:15:29.000 But there are a lot of pyramids in China that we're not even allowed to look at.
03:15:32.000 There's no archaeology.
03:15:33.000 There's no digs.
03:15:34.000 There's no nothing going on.
03:15:35.000 They just shut it down.
03:15:36.000 How about when they do these digs and they find like a whole porcelain army?
03:15:40.000 That's awesome.
03:15:41.000 That is wild shit.
03:15:42.000 You find thousands of armies- And why would they do that?
03:15:45.000 Why did they do that?
03:15:46.000 Look at that.
03:15:47.000 They buried those.
03:15:48.000 Doesn't even make sense.
03:15:49.000 Chinese ancient pyramids reveal their stunning secrets.
03:15:52.000 Fox News, and this is all these- Ah, it's Fox News.
03:15:55.000 We can't believe that.
03:15:56.000 They're a bunch of liars.
03:15:57.000 Look at that.
03:15:58.000 That's like these trenches filled with these soldiers that are made out of porcelain.
03:16:04.000 It's wild.
03:16:06.000 Look at that, man.
03:16:07.000 That is fucking crazy.
03:16:09.000 Think about the money and time and manpower.
03:16:10.000 Look at how many of them there are.
03:16:12.000 Imagine discovering this.
03:16:14.000 They must have been like, what the fuck are we looking at?
03:16:17.000 And also, why?
03:16:19.000 I don't know, man.
03:16:20.000 Imagine the manpower and the amount of money involved in making just one of those guys.
03:16:25.000 I know.
03:16:25.000 Look how many of them there are.
03:16:27.000 I wonder how they found them the first time.
03:16:31.000 It's just the history of the human race is so fascinating.
03:16:35.000 And Graham Hancock has this amazing saying that I think is pretty accurate.
03:16:38.000 He says that we're a species with amnesia.
03:16:41.000 And I think there's only so much that we have written down that we can 100% rely on.
03:16:47.000 When you get back to like 4,000 years ago, 5,000 years ago, this stuff gets super blurry.
03:16:53.000 It's just guessing.
03:16:53.000 Does your dog have to pee?
03:16:55.000 We've been in here quite a while.
03:16:56.000 No, he's good.
03:16:57.000 It's pretty cool that you have this dog that's that trained.
03:17:00.000 It's really interesting.
03:17:02.000 How long have you had him?
03:17:03.000 I've had him for about two years.
03:17:05.000 He's so well-behaved and so you.
03:17:08.000 He's focused on you.
03:17:10.000 He doesn't give a fuck about me.
03:17:12.000 We have a training group that trains all the service dogs like that.
03:17:16.000 It's in Florida and it's run by a Purple Heart recipient.
03:17:20.000 And so for a lot of the veterans, and if you're a Purple Heart recipient, you get pretty high on the list.
03:17:25.000 If you want a service dog, it's another nonprofit.
03:17:28.000 Oh, that's nice.
03:17:29.000 I work with a whole bunch of nonprofits.
03:17:31.000 They're all veteran-focused.
03:17:32.000 And the thing is, I talk to people and I say, hey, who do we donate to?
03:17:35.000 You know, Wounded Warrior or is that one of them?
03:17:37.000 Yeah.
03:17:38.000 It's those really big ones.
03:17:40.000 I said, don't donate to the big ones.
03:17:41.000 I said, what you need to do is you need to find one of the smaller ones in your local area so that you're keeping your donation local and you're giving it to a local charity that you look at and make sure they're A-rated by that group that rates all the nonprofits and make sure it's a small one that their overhead is like they don't pay their employees because we're all nonprofit.
03:18:00.000 If you do pay your employees, it's not a $200,000 CEO salary like Wounded Warrior and all those other guys do.
03:18:06.000 Find a local nonprofit.
03:18:08.000 I said, there's tons of them out there.
03:18:10.000 You know, there's that one in Florida that I know of.
03:18:11.000 It's called Valor K9. And you have ones called, you know, in New York, there's a bunch of them.
03:18:16.000 In San Francisco, you have Plows to, Swords to Plowshares.
03:18:19.000 There's so many great small nonprofits within your community, within your city.
03:18:24.000 That's who you should give the money to.
03:18:25.000 Because they get to those big national ones, all the money goes to overhead, you know?
03:18:29.000 It's just like, if you want to help out, you really want to help out veterans, find a local non-profit, you know?
03:18:35.000 Don't give me nothing.
03:18:37.000 Don't give me a lawyer or anything.
03:18:38.000 Find your own that you can support.
03:18:40.000 Well, Kristen, we've been doing this for three hours.
03:18:43.000 Isn't that wild?
03:18:45.000 I'm glad we did this.
03:18:47.000 It was really cool.
03:18:47.000 I really enjoyed it.
03:18:48.000 What was the really big thing that we wanted to talk about, though, was probably about the transgender athletes.
03:18:53.000 We did it.
03:18:53.000 We talked about it.
03:18:54.000 Was there anything else that was like...
03:18:56.000 Listen, we can do this again.
03:18:58.000 We can definitely do it again.
03:18:59.000 I really enjoyed it.
03:19:00.000 And I think it's cool for people.
03:19:02.000 You have a very unique perspective.
03:19:04.000 You know becoming a seal and then transitioning while you're you know in civilian life Working as a contractor and explaining all this is very It's very valuable for people to hear and your honesty like I said really should be commended because it's hard It's hard to be it's hard to just just open yourself up to people like the way you have But I think you've done a lot of people a great justice by doing that because it I think you do I think it really do I think it helps people it also like There's a lot of people that really,
03:19:34.000 really respect veterans and really, really respect SEALs.
03:19:37.000 And they might be hesitant to accept transgender people.
03:19:40.000 So from hearing it from you, they have to respect you as a SEAL. And then they go, well, maybe I'm wrong about this.
03:19:46.000 And maybe they'll allow them to be more open-minded.
03:19:48.000 And there's no weakness in being open-minded.
03:19:50.000 There's strength.
03:19:51.000 It's good for everybody.
03:19:52.000 And there's no weakness in, like, compromise.
03:19:55.000 And I think that's one of the things we have wrong with our politicians right now is none of them will compromise.
03:19:59.000 Yeah.
03:19:59.000 Well, it's just we've got to, like, find ways to, like you said, be cool.
03:20:04.000 That's probably the best way to end it.
03:20:06.000 Yes!
03:20:06.000 The best way.
03:20:06.000 Hey, come on, man.
03:20:07.000 Can you just be cool?
03:20:08.000 Tell everybody your social media.
03:20:10.000 What's your website?
03:20:11.000 What's the best way to get a hold of you or to see your stuff?
03:20:14.000 So all of my social media is all the same tag.
03:20:18.000 It's Valor4Us, V-A-L-O-R, the number four, U-S. And that's on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook.
03:20:27.000 If you find Valor4Us, that's going to be me.
03:20:30.000 All right.
03:20:31.000 Thank you.
03:20:31.000 Thanks for doing this.
03:20:32.000 I'm glad we did it.
03:20:33.000 It was a lot of fun.
03:20:33.000 I really enjoyed it.
03:20:34.000 And let's do it again.
03:20:35.000 After four years, man.
03:20:35.000 We're finally here.
03:20:36.000 We'll do it again, okay?
03:20:37.000 All right.
03:20:38.000 Thank you.
03:20:39.000 Bye, everybody.
03:20:40.000 Thanks.