In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, we discuss the mass shooting at a Florida elementary school, and how we should have done more to prevent mass shootings like this in the future. We also talk about the Florida school shooter, Nikolas Cruz, and why he should never have been allowed to have access to guns in the first place, and what we should do to prevent more mass shootings in schools. We also discuss why we should never be allowed to own guns in schools and why we need universal background checks for all gun owners. And of course, we talk about why gun control is a complete waste of time and money and why you shouldn't even be surprised when mass shootings happen in schools, especially if you're a parent or a law enforcement officer. Joe and I have been friends for a long time, and we have a lot in common. We both grew up in the Bay Area, which is a great place to be a gun control advocate and advocate for the Second Amendment rights of our children. Thank you so much for being a part of the podcast and supporting us in this podcast, and I can't wait to do more of this! -Joe Rogan Podcast by day, by night, all day, Joe Rogans Podcast by night. Thanks for listening and God bless you, bye! -JOE ROGAN PODCAST by night! -JOSH MILLER AND JOSH MCCARTAN Podcast by DAY, THE JOE JORDAN Experience by NAKED Podcast by NANCY MCCARANCHOR by NICK AND JAMES WELCOMEVERYTHING by YANGOOD NAMES by STEPHANSTER AND JOSIAHAN COHEN AND JAY MARTIN EPISODE by JOSH WYNN KELLY AND JODY MACHINES AND JORDY LYNN AND JACO RYAN BECAUSE THEY'S TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND THEY'RE NOTHING ELSE? JOE RODAN AND OTHER THAN THAT'S NOTHAPPY AND NOTHANDSET, JOE AND JEA'SOLDER THAN AVAILABLE? , JOE & JODY'S DOGS ARE SOMETHING YA'LLY AND DYAN AND JEAN POTTER AND YANNA AND JYAN MOSCOHAN AND AYANNA ARE SOMETHARD AND A LOT MORE!
00:00:22.000Because it seems like so many times when there's a gun control...
00:00:25.000Well, you're the first guy I always call.
00:00:27.000Because I think you're the very best at explaining gun issues from, first of all, from a Second Amendment perspective, from an enthusiast perspective, and also you're a lawyer.
00:01:15.000You know, one, no one can deny our media does a beautiful job memorializing everything about every mass shooting in terms of the killer, what we know about him, you know, for the most part, almost sensationalizing it.
00:01:30.000And so there is something to be said that, you know...
00:01:34.000Someone walking into a school, somebody walking into a building where you don't expect anything shooting a bunch of people deserves that type of attention.
00:01:56.000I think the scapegoat route is gun control.
00:02:01.000Because I think what it does is it gives us the immediate gratification of, alright, we did something, we passed this, alright, let's move on and hope it never happens again.
00:02:11.000Problem is, though, it never touches the underlying issues about why people would do this.
00:02:26.000And this guy, I mean, obviously, there was something really wrong with him.
00:02:36.000But the the thing about the killing the children is it's like it's That's why school shootings are so fucked because they're the most horrific version of a mass shooting because you're going after innocent little kids and this was the most evil and Then there's there's also so much to this one,
00:02:54.000There's so much to the amount of time that the cops were outside that they didn't do anything because they didn't want to get shot and But that's just it, too, though, which is the weird thing for me.
00:03:03.000So we can acknowledge that in this situation, the same situation that happened in Florida, right?
00:03:09.000The resource officer didn't go in in time when he could have probably stopped it sooner.
00:03:30.000But that's just it though, if you think about it.
00:03:34.000The same people, not the same people, but then you'll have people who say, okay, well, we need to limit and restrict these guns.
00:03:40.000But all that does is force us to depend on people who we've already established in a lot of situations aren't necessarily incapable of being there to protect us, or in situations like this, refusing to go in and protect us.
00:03:54.000Now, I can see someone coming up on the other side saying something about, oh, so you want the kids to have guns there, too?
00:04:24.000So from that perspective, I try to keep things and break things down to that simplistic level so people can understand that instead of just kind of immediately reacting to, all right, let's ban this and let's ban that and let's ban this.
00:04:36.000But we are talking about, like you said, a group of officers who stood outside while kids were being shot and killed.
00:04:42.000Those guys should never be cops again.
00:04:43.000I'm going to have to agree with you in that regard.
00:04:45.000Now, this is me not being in Uvalde, not knowing all of the intimate details about why they stood down, but at the end of the day, I have a hard time seeing what supersedes there's a guy in classrooms killing kids right now.
00:04:57.000Well, you know about that mom, the mom that was arrested?
00:05:40.000Because we're in a terrible time for law enforcement in that all this defund the police stuff has gotten people very skittish about I know cops that don't want to do things because they don't want to get in trouble.
00:05:57.000They don't want to show up for things.
00:05:59.000They want to wait before they show up for things because they don't want it to be something they have to handle because they feel tied up.
00:06:09.000It's like we don't necessarily want cops to go in there I don't mean just in this particular situation, Evaldi, but just having—be completely let off the leash to the extent that they can do anything that they want anytime and there'll be no— Of course.
00:06:21.000They can't be held accountable for anything, right?
00:06:23.000While at the same time, we need them to go in without having to essentially be attorneys, you know, in the moment, trying to decide, like, I was just in Wisconsin.
00:06:33.000And I was with the USCCA, which is a concealed carry insurance membership program.
00:06:40.000And what we were doing was working scenario-based training.
00:06:43.000So they set up this whole situation for me, like we're in a coffee shop, I have a girlfriend that I'm talking to, and then a guy comes in, robs the place, and a bunch of other scenarios that happen.
00:06:52.000And because of my knowledge base and things that I'm aware of from a legal perspective, even in that moment when I'm trying to decide, do I shoot?
00:07:27.000It was loud, recall, and all of that stuff.
00:07:30.000And so in that moment, I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, all right, when is it justified for me to shoot?
00:07:36.000Now, in that moment, in that scenario, you can only kind of mimic reality to a certain extent before, you know, you get overwhelmed with the thought of, okay, I might die.
00:07:46.000I have the benefit to some degree to kind of think logically through, okay, if I shoot now, is it justified?
00:07:52.000If I don't shoot now, and so forth and so on.
00:07:54.000Are you talking about like from a legal perspective?
00:07:57.000And so in that moment, when the guy's in there, he's already shot at one person, he's about to shoot another person, I'm like, okay, this is my time to shoot, but he's not shooting at me.
00:08:10.000So if you're like, let's say if you go into a store and you see a gunfight in the store and you see a guy shooting at someone behind the counter and you're armed, are you allowed to shoot him?
00:08:37.000And so in that situation, and I'm probably kind of giving away too much information because the video's not out yet, but I think it's necessary.
00:12:22.000You get an aggressive enough prosecutor, that's the argument they made.
00:12:25.000If I was a prosecutor, that's the argument I would make.
00:12:26.000You know about the case in Austin, where a guy was not, he was not charged for a long period of time, but it was at one of the protests during the pandemic, and this guy apparently was military,
00:12:46.000Yeah, so he pulled down this road, I think he was following his GPS, and he pulled down this road, and all of a sudden he's faced with the people that were blocking the road, and this guy pulls an AK-47 out and points it at him.
00:13:11.000Let's find out what the status on that was because all my friends that are law enforcement or military were furious that he got charged because this guy literally pointed the gun at his face.
00:13:23.000Like he's standing there pointing the gun.
00:13:56.000And so, if we understand that this is the country that we live in, we have a Second Amendment, we understand the culture in this country, why would we not spend...
00:14:04.000Just even a decent amount of resources on a federal level, let's say local level, to teach people the dynamics involved with firearm ownership.
00:14:48.000The difference though too is we're talking about a constitutional right versus a privilege.
00:14:52.000When I got a concealed carry permit, I had to go through an extensive examination, which also involved showing that you are proficient at shooting.
00:15:04.000Well, because we are talking about a constitutional right.
00:15:06.000So the standard is a lot different than say, okay, we're giving you the privilege to drive this car on the road.
00:15:11.000So like with a car, I can own any car I want.
00:15:15.000If I have private property, I can drive all over that private property without any education, without any instruction, or any of that stuff.
00:15:20.000Now, the moment I want to step out into the public with this car and drive it on public roads, that's when I have to get license, get registration, and all of those things.
00:15:48.000Unfortunately, we aren't able to comment on pending litigation.
00:15:51.000This is about the guy who's an Uber driver.
00:15:53.000As we've released in the past, this incident is not related to the Uber platform.
00:15:58.000It says, For now, this gentleman Perry remains indicted on multiple charges, including murder in this case.
00:16:04.000In August, his attempt to get the murder charge dropped was denied.
00:16:09.000From what I understand, this has to do with the district attorney in Austin.
00:16:16.000We have a lot of very liberal district attorneys in this country.
00:16:20.000They just repealed the guy in San Francisco to screams and cheers of people who are dealing with unprecedented crime and homelessness there.
00:16:29.000Don't get me started in San Francisco, bro.
00:16:31.000Well, you're the one who told me about it.
00:16:32.000You're the one who explained to me the whole homeless situation.
00:16:35.000We've talked about it multiple times and credited you with explaining it.
00:16:39.000Since you're a lawyer and you understand the inner workings of the machine in a way that I probably don't...
00:16:55.000Because when I was with the NRA and we were doing these mini documentaries, going to these different places and talking to the people on the ground, they were explaining stuff to me.
00:17:20.000When you showed me the numbers and the people in LA making $260,000 a year to deal with the homeless situation and it's not going anywhere, I'm like, that person has a fucking great job.
00:17:32.000You know, I actually analogized that to the issue with gun violence in the inner city.
00:17:43.000But I think to a degree A lot of these leaders and politicians in the inner city need that violence in the inner city to continue as a way to justify the necessity for them being in the positions that they're in.
00:18:49.000Yeah, like, they legit, I remember, because this was like at the genesis kind of of my two-way advocacy, when I was looking at the numbers, because I kind of initially just took the numbers for what they were.
00:19:01.000And I just assumed, because you hear gun violence, you see, you hear gun deaths.
00:19:05.000You're thinking people shooting at other people in the middle of the street and dropping dead, right?
00:19:09.000And then I started looking into the numbers and I started to realize, wait, 63 to 65% are suicides?
00:19:14.000And like I pointed out, it's not that I don't care about suicides, but then I also backdoored and I said, okay, well, let's look at the suicide rate just as a whole in America versus other places that have strict gun laws.
00:19:25.000And I remember when I was on Bill Maher and I was sitting at the round table, we kind of started getting into that discussion.
00:19:30.000And you would think, considering we have as many guns as we have in this country in the hands of civilians, you'd think that On the surface, we'd lead the world in suicides.
00:20:16.000And that's including, and then there's another percentage that includes Officer shootings, whether it's officer shooting a criminal or a criminal killing an officer, right?
00:20:26.000So we can put that here over here as well because that's a different dynamic.
00:20:29.000What percentage are officers shooting?
00:20:32.000That's sitting somewhere in about also 2-3%.
00:21:09.000Because the whole gang-related, because now what's happening is they're taking a lot of the gang-related shootings and including them in mass shootings.
00:21:16.000It's just kind of like what happened in Philadelphia recently, right?
00:21:24.000It was basically, there was a shootout between, I don't know how many people it was, but there was like, I can't remember exactly where in Philly it was, but essentially, I can't remember, a lot of people got shot, and they called it a mass shooting.
00:21:40.000It was two parties going at it, and they called it mass shooting.
00:21:46.000I guess you could argue why that's considered a mass shooting, but it's not.
00:21:51.000But in our minds, when we think about it, a mass shooting is somebody—you have an individual or multiple people who want to go and kill as many innocent people as possible, right?
00:21:59.000We're not talking about people who are shooting each other over disputes.
00:22:03.000This was a dispute that took place in the public.
00:22:06.000Between two people with guns, essentially.
00:22:09.000And so they want to call that a mass shooting.
00:23:37.000And that is one thing that we both agree on in terms of that's one of the most gigantic and ignored problems in this country is exposure to poverty and violence your whole life.
00:23:52.000And that these environments like the inner city, like South Side of Chicago, which have never changed.
00:24:43.000Like, in Chicago, a couple of weekends ago, I don't remember what the number was, but it was something preposterous, the amount of people that got shot.
00:25:41.000And as far as creating the vacuum that it created, you could make the argument, well, they tried to do something about it then, and it just ended up getting worse, right?
00:25:50.000You have these things that you do, and sometimes it has an effect that you didn't intend to have.
00:25:55.000But the problem is that we always approach it from a singular focus.
00:25:59.000It's either ban all the guns or just arrest everybody on the streets.
00:26:03.000We never want to have that in-depth conversation about, You got to think about what type of environment you're living in where you come up as a child.
00:26:12.000When I say child, I mean you're 16, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and you so easily can pick up a gun and just take another person's life that looks just like you.
00:26:21.000And you get a reputation for doing that.
00:27:39.000So, following the drama between Cook County State Attorney Kim Fox and Mayor Lightfoot last year over a lack of charges in a deadly shootout on the West Side, a man was arrested Thursday in connection.
00:27:51.000Thomas Dean, 20, 19 at the time of the shooting, I guess, was charged Thursday with three counts of aggravated, unlawful use of a weapon.
00:29:16.000Well, you know, I don't have a lot of faith in this because the way it's going today, and I don't understand what happened in terms of The way DA's just sort of release people that are accused of violent assaults, it's bananas.
00:29:35.000That video that you sent me of you, like, talking to the, uh, or you playing that interview of the gang member saying he's getting the fuck out of LA? He's like, it's too hot for me.
00:29:47.000A fucking gang member is like, LA's too crazy.
00:29:52.000I think, yeah, it was Whack 100. Yes, because he was talking about how the people are getting out.
00:29:57.000That they're going to release another 70,000 people early who were violent criminals because they don't have any room in the jails or the DA just seems to think it's a good idea.
00:30:07.000That's another thing, too, that people are not factoring in.
00:30:14.000That's what people aren't talking about.
00:30:15.000Like, when you had all these shutdowns and people couldn't work and basically shut down the economy, I mean, you got to understand what that does to a lot of people who are already sitting on the bottom.
00:30:47.000It amazes me how people don't understand this.
00:30:50.000And I think what it is, is a lot of people just like to live in their own little bubbles and don't like to address things until that thing breaks into their bubble.
00:30:59.000And when it does, it's like, please, government, do something!
00:31:24.000So at that point, they realize, shit, I'm on my own.
00:31:28.000And you should have realized that in the middle of the whole situation because when pretty much the world was shut down, you were on your own.
00:31:36.000When we were having protests and riots every other day, it seemed like, and another city was burning every other day, and cops were like, yeah, there's not much we can do.
00:32:05.000If someone's breaking into your house, if someone's on your property, the amount of time that it would take for a police officer to get to you, even if they do choose to respond quickly.
00:34:55.000And I read an article, and it even kind of blew me away a little bit, that there was a study that found, like, if the media changed the way that they handled reporting these mass shootings, we could reduce mass shootings by 33%.
00:37:51.000I'm trying to be as vague about this as possible because I don't want to get anybody in trouble.
00:37:55.000But there was a kid at a school that...
00:38:01.000Someone that I know is connected to and this kid took a photo and sent it to his friends of him holding a rifle saying something about gonna go to school on my way to school now something to that extent and That photo got to one of the parents and Funny.
00:39:37.000So that's the question that I think our brainpower should be focused on trying to accomplish while understanding it's no different than a criminal, though, right?
00:39:49.000See, a criminal becomes a criminal once he does some criminal shit.
00:40:33.000But again, what we're talking about is we're talking about people in positions of leadership who feel that their lives are more important than ours.
00:40:43.000It's just—I'm not going to say it's just natural, but that tends to happen.
00:40:47.000You start to kind of develop the sense of superiority when you're in positions of power, and you're like, well, I need the protection because I'm a person of importance.
00:40:57.000Because a lot of these people are wanting these gun control laws and removing these guns because they don't want the common people to have them because they see them as a threat to them.
00:41:07.000That was one of the arguments about this money that's going to Ukraine, where people were like, how are you sending $40 billion to Ukraine and you're not spending any money protecting schools?
00:41:17.000Like imagine, first of all, before we even get into protection, how about advancing education?
00:41:23.000$40 billion would go a long way to improving schools.
00:41:27.000$40 billion would go a long way to providing security in schools.
00:41:31.000You know, I mean, did you hear about how he got in?
00:42:04.000From what I read, by the time the teacher realized what was going on and she tried to go to the door to lock it, he grabbed the door and opened it.
00:42:26.000If somebody broke into your neighbor's house, say tomorrow, the first thing you're probably going to think of is, all right, how do I harden my house to make sure this doesn't happen to me?
00:42:34.000That's going to be your first thought.
00:42:36.000Why would we not do that with our children and the places that they go to school?
00:42:39.000And I know people are like, we don't make it seem like they're living in a prison.
00:42:41.000You can have passive defenses where optically it doesn't look like a prison.
00:42:47.000You can have reinforced doors that don't look like prison gates.
00:42:53.000And to me, those are the easier things to implement before we even start talking about banning this gun, banning that gun, which will do nothing to stop these things.
00:43:01.000Because when we talk about school shootings, the worst one we ever had was Virginia Tech.
00:45:48.000So, there should be absolutely some measure of protection that stops this from being, stops it from being available to someone that someone could just get into the school.
00:46:15.000Which is why I get a lot of shit for it, and I think it's crazy that I get shit for it, but I'm in favor of allowing teachers to keep guns at school.
00:46:25.000Well, some places are now allowing teachers to have guns, and I watched this video where all these teachers pulled out their pistols, and they had them.
00:47:13.000I think that's the point that's not being put out there.
00:47:16.000Because I'm tired of hearing how all gun owners are, the blood of the babies, the kids' hands are on all gun owners who don't want any more gun control laws.
00:49:00.000You have to think about what type of leader you're under who can open his mouth and say something like that as a justification for doing what he's doing as far as gun control is concerned.
00:49:09.000It's the son of a guy who was a politician and a leader and a completely removed person from terms of regular society and the problems that other people face.
00:49:24.000And that's a thing that the other side, and when I say the other side, I mean the gun lobby, the anti-gun lobby, has done a good job of, is creating this...
00:50:02.000An actual this is what this is a little bit further long longer ago when he was talking about They made a ban on the purchase of handguns you know the transfer of handguns the important importing handguns Yeah, so it's funny.
00:50:17.000So I get a lot of like even my My legal mentor this is literally the guy who taught me how to argue And we go back and forth about this because he sometimes he thinks I'm too extreme on the issue sometimes and And I think the problem is he doesn't understand that the ultimate goal is for them to ban guns.
00:50:35.000When I say that out loud, they think I'm crazy.
00:50:38.000And I'm like, I've been doing this long enough to see where this goes.
00:50:42.000And look at what's happening in Canada right now.
00:50:45.000You have someone who is literally, they started off by banning AR-15s, so-called assault weapons.
00:50:52.000And now all of a sudden, now he's talking about people don't have a right to own a handgun.
00:51:09.000More people die from getting beat to death than they do killed with an AR-15.
00:51:14.000So if the goal is, so people's rationale is, well, these school shooters, and I'm being very specific about school shooters because the vast majority of mass shootings are committed with handguns.
00:51:43.000Because I know where this is going because I understand the data.
00:51:47.000The vast majority of people that are being killed in mass shootings are committed with handguns.
00:51:51.000It's only a matter of time before we have another one and we're having this conversation again and now you're telling us we need to ban handguns.
00:51:57.000And you can't say them crazy because they're doing it right now in Canada.
00:52:01.000And so that's the problem is people aren't being realistic about this conversation.
00:52:14.000People were freaking out reading it or watching it because it was just like, it's such a crazy thing to say that you can't have a gun to protect yourself.
00:52:24.000It's just that you do not have the right to own a gun to preserve your life.
00:53:38.000But when it comes to our leaders and the people that are pushing this the most, and my biggest frustration, people are always like, oh, cool, you're so political.
00:54:02.000I mean, even my left-wing friends, the ones that I know well, that just whenever a mass shooting happens, that I look on their Twitter feed, and it's always like, gun control now!
00:54:13.000I put up a tweet not too long ago that kind of got people's panties in a bunch, but I said, half of this country wants to be ruled over.
00:54:23.000The other half of this country just wants to be left alone.
00:54:26.000The problem is the people who want to be ruled over want everyone to be ruled over.
00:54:32.000And I by and large think that For a lot of people on the left, and I'm not saying everybody because I know a lot of liberal gun owners, right, who are adamant about protecting the Second Amendment, but a vast majority of them really do overly rely on the government as far as keeping them safe and giving them everything that they need.
00:54:49.000And when you do that, your default is always going to be depend on the government.
00:54:56.000From the standpoint of wanting – utilizing the government to fix all the issues in the country, you get that from the left side of the leadership aisle because they want to gain – they want the government to gain as much power as possible in order to gain control over the people.
00:55:11.000Whereas when you look on the other side of the aisle – Yeah, that's it.
00:55:16.000Okay, play this because this is – We have a culture where the difference is guns can be used for hunting or for sport shooting in Canada, and there are lots of gun owners and they're mostly law-respecting and law-abiding,
00:55:33.000but you can't use a gun for self-protection in Canada.
00:55:37.000That's not a right that you have in the Constitution or anywhere else.
00:55:40.000If you try and buy a gun and say it's for self-protection, no, you don't get that.
00:55:47.000No problem, as long as you go through our rigorous background checks.
00:55:50.000But there's a difference around the culture.
00:55:52.000And one of the things that we're seeing with the debate in the States is you get more and more of the American-style right-to-carry self-defense arguments filtering up through the usual more right-wing communications channel.
00:56:06.000Now, scroll down this thread, because in this thread, it's exposed that that's not the case in terms of their laws.
00:56:15.000Someone pulls up the actual laws, if you keep going.
00:56:34.000Only if the chief firearms instructor is satisfied.
00:56:37.000A, that the individual needs the restricted firearm or handgun.
00:56:42.000I, to protect the life of that individual or of other individuals.
00:56:49.000An II, for use in connection with his or her lawful profession or occupation of.
00:56:55.000Or, B, that the purpose for which the individual wishes to acquire the restricted firearm or handgun is I, for the use of target practice, target competition.
00:57:07.000Okay, so A, if you look at A, to protect the life of that individual or other individuals.
00:57:14.000So this is written in, go back to the top of this please.
00:57:19.000So, subsection 12, 6.1, in December 1st, 1998, handguns, only if the chief firearms officer is satisfied.
00:57:30.000So this is, it says under this gentleman, Mr. Romali, posts this on Twitter, our prime minister doesn't even know the law.
00:57:39.000Canadian Firearms Act, section 28 AI. So it is...
00:57:45.000It is in their law, which is fucking crazy for a guy to say that.
00:58:48.000See, they don't have a Second Amendment.
00:58:51.000So the way that read to me, and listening to Trudeau, and then reading that, It's kind of like—so when it comes to concealed carry license, you have may issue and shall issue states, right?
00:59:04.000May issue is if you can justify to the sheriff that you need this gun because of your business or your celebrity, somebody who needs to protect their life, right, then you can get a concealed carry license.
00:59:18.000But to a regular common person— That's not enough.
00:59:23.000There has to be an extenuating circumstance, which usually falls on the idea of I'm famous, so I need to protect myself, or I have a jewelry business and I move a lot of cash and therefore I need a gun to protect myself.
00:59:38.000And it says, okay, technically, yes, you can own a gun if you can justify to the officer that you have an extenuating circumstance that you need to own that gun to protect your life.
00:59:49.000And so on its face, I can read it two ways.
00:59:54.000Yeah, you can justify it to the officer, but to the regular common person, if you're famous, you're a celebrity, or you have a certain business, then sure, they'll give it to you.
01:00:02.000However, if I'm just a regular person, good luck actually using that to justify it.
01:00:06.000Because they're going to say, you just being a regular person doesn't justify you needing it to protect your life.
01:00:31.000That's why he's able to say with a straight face what he's saying.
01:00:33.000But he's not even saying it that there's an option if you need to protect your life.
01:00:38.000Because he doesn't believe there is one.
01:00:40.000Because I think he would rather have the population unarmed.
01:00:43.000And I think this particularly rings true after the demonstrations that were, the trucker demonstrations, when he demonized all the truckers as being racist and misogynist.
01:00:55.000Like, just an open, generalizing statement.
01:00:57.000As a leader, you should be discredited, like, instantaneously.
01:01:02.000Like, for you to make a generalization on hundreds, if not thousands of people that you don't even know, That is so wild and that you're going to use that to state your point that you don't want these people to be able to protest, which is crazy because it's a giant part of what a civilized democratic society is allowed to do.
01:01:22.000But yet here we are in America trying to do what they're doing.
01:02:17.000I don't agree that it's the safest way, and I don't buy into this nonsense that if you live a good life and you're a good person, it's not going to come to you.
01:02:38.000So this is one of those issues where I have friends that they have this ideological wall, and this wall, they hit the wall, where there's nothing, no reasonable answer other than take away all the guns.
01:02:53.000Well, also, part of it too is, and a good friend of mine once said this, and I was like, yeah, you're right.
01:02:58.000The problem is that a lot of those people only see themselves as possible victims of gun violence, never the defender against it.
01:03:04.000And when you can only see yourself as the victim, You have to rely on someone else to protect you, which is why the immediate response is, government, take them away.
01:03:25.000I mean, I saw a little bit of it on some right-wing websites, but for the most part, it was ignored by the mainstream media, particularly by the left-wing media.
01:03:34.000I didn't see a fucking peep out of it.
01:03:42.000But I'm telling you, a lot of my friends that were hardcore lefties got red-pilled over the pandemic when they saw cop cars being lit on fire and houses being broken into.
01:03:55.000And when friends got their homes broken into and they called the cops and the cops wouldn't do a damn thing about it.
01:04:18.000That's that whole thing where – and that's another thing that people don't realize is the way they talk about it, the way the anti-gun lobby talks about background checks, they talk about it as if we don't have background checks in this country.
01:04:41.000So I hear talks about, okay, well, let's include the juvenile records.
01:04:45.000But if a juvenile record doesn't have an offense that's equatable to a felony that prohibits him from owning a firearm, he still would get it.
01:06:20.000Yes, it's the only way to get the word out as much as possible because I'm always dealing with either being shadow banned on this platform for a period of time and being shadow banned on that platform.
01:06:28.000Yeah, I wanted to talk to you about that.
01:07:25.000I've heard of a few people that I know personally, and I got a few messages of someone saying alternative thought is that people who were not on the platform liked that Elon bought it and joined.
01:09:24.000There's a thing that they do, though, where they get these people comfortable, and then they somehow or another get them talking about their business, and they start talking about how they're essentially communists, about how they ban all these right-wing people or shadow ban them,
01:09:40.000where they limit the reach of their tweets.
01:09:42.000And these are people making a decision.
01:09:44.000It's not like it's coming from the top down.
01:09:46.000These people are making those decisions unilaterally on their own.
01:11:44.000He's like, I think that there should be an extensive evaluation for people who own AR-15s or mental health evaluation and so forth and so on.
01:11:52.000And so what I said to him when I was like, here's the problem with that.
01:12:02.000Right now, you are trying to protect the first on a platform, and they're trying to destroy you for it.
01:12:07.000So imagine what they would try to do to somebody like me, who is a Second Amendment advocate, and I say, I want to be able to own a certain gun, and I have to go through these extensive evaluations.
01:12:17.000It's no different than the law we just saw in Canada, where the officer has to approve that it's for life-saving purposes.
01:12:25.000Well, the problem with saying that people are trying to destroy him is that there's a thing that happens whenever there's conflict, whenever there's any kind of conflict.
01:12:33.000And when you have a guy who is one of the richest men, if not the richest man on earth, and he does anything, there's going to be people mad.
01:14:43.000Okay, so right now I'm gonna put it up there right this very second ready set go share and now I'm gonna look and we're gonna check it out bam okay no comments yet so now they don't follow me for me what Oh,
01:18:02.000So what they'll do is they'll take a thumbnail of me, and then they'll comment in all my videos, and then tell them, call this number, and they're thinking it's me.
01:18:11.000Call this number and you've won this free prize or something like that.
01:19:46.000What a lot of them will do, they'll get access to someone's account on Facebook, take all of their data, use their pictures to then create a fake account that looks like a real person, talks like a real person, knows things about that.
01:19:57.000The ones that don't even let you follow them are fascinating.
01:20:02.000You have to follow them in order to...
01:20:20.000Can you imagine being a sad, sad dude?
01:20:21.000And then they'll say something like, deleted at 60k to justify why their followers are sold out.
01:20:25.000Yeah, but there's a 12-year-old, 14-year-old, 15-year-old that hasn't been online that long that doesn't know these games and they'll fall for it one night.
01:20:32.000Okay, I want to click on this link, but I don't.
01:21:21.000At the end of the day, it could be getting a track, like the way trackers you set up on your computer, they get a keylogger on there, they find your information, or they're just trying to trick you into putting it in somewhere.
01:21:28.000Or trying to trick you into an OnlyFans account, like if you sign up for an OnlyFans account.
01:21:33.000Even if you're a sucker, and you go, oh, this is bullshit, and you pay.
01:21:36.000Well, I think in those cases, those girls are kind of real.
01:27:44.000But for people that didn't hear that, it has a really significant effect on your body's ability to process alcohol.
01:27:50.000I mean, it's not, I think it's been exaggerated by some people, you know, but there's a real legitimate effect, documented effect, that liposomal glutathione has on your body's ability to process alcohol.
01:28:03.000And there's a lot of people that take glutathione when they're drinking to manage your body's processing.
01:28:09.000I don't remember the last time I had a hangover.
01:28:35.000And so for me, but I'm always, when I'm drinking like that, especially during the day, you'll notice, and some of my friends get annoyed with me because they're like, shots!
01:28:59.000That kind of control and awareness of limitations and being smart about things and seeing where things go bad.
01:29:06.000I think also, too, there's a component where, I mean, I know there are a lot of eyes on me as well, too.
01:29:10.000Not that I, honestly, but that's not even, you talk to my friends who knew me before I kind of developed this platform, I was always kind of that way, too.
01:29:17.000But I'm very cognizant and aware that, like, I can be out and people know me and I don't realize that they know me.
01:29:22.000There's a limited amount of people in that space, in the gun control space, that have not just a voice but also an intelligent perspective and can have these really reasonable, even-keeled debates and discussions of things.
01:29:38.000Maybe I'm an idiot because I know I got a lot of friends who are in the gun space who are like, man, I can't do what you do because I don't want to deal with it.
01:29:59.000So before I came here, I went to the hotel restaurant that I was staying at, and there was a bartender, she was there, who was taking my order.
01:30:09.000And so she was looking at my shirt, and she's like, if you know, you know.
01:30:12.000Because that's what the I, the K, the Y, and all that stuff stands for.
01:32:20.000And so the conversation went from there.
01:32:22.000We didn't fix the world's problems in that conversation.
01:32:24.000But we had an open enough conversation where I could tell she was more open-minded about certain aspects of stuff and realized some of the things she didn't know.
01:32:34.000While at the same time, I let her speak to me in a way where I got a better understanding of where someone like her is coming from on the issue.
01:32:42.000So that we can have that conversation in a productive manner.
01:32:45.000It wasn't from the position of, you want to ban guns?
01:32:47.000I don't want you to take just my right.
01:33:51.000But, you know, it's for me, you know, like sometimes with certain celebrities, I'll get a little fruitful in the way I kind of handle the video.
01:33:58.000But for the most part, I'm trying to educate the masses of people in the middle who are looking to get information because a lot of them either get straight up lies that is being pushed by the anti-gun lobby or they just are just ignorant.
01:34:11.000On all the laws, the gun conversation altogether, because this has been the biggest conversation that—this is as big as the conversation has ever gotten with respect to the gun conversation in America.
01:34:24.000And a lot of it has to do with social media.
01:34:26.000If social media did not exist to the degree that it does right now, the state of gun rights in this country would be nil.
01:35:34.000And that's why typically I only like to do things live.
01:35:37.000If I'm going to do anything from an opposition standpoint, and I don't mean I'm calling people who disagree me the ops, but I like to do it live so that there's no misconstruing of what I'm saying or what I'm trying to communicate.
01:35:51.000I'm not too prone to doing pre-recorded with them because I know how things can be taken out of context.
01:36:15.000Because I've been doing this for so long, I think, oh no, I can navigate all the tricks and stuff.
01:36:20.000And I had to pull myself back because I'm like, there are people who are way more experienced at this and they still get caught up in that.
01:36:26.000So I'm not going to be so arrogant as to assume I can navigate the pitfalls that come with doing something pre-recorded with people who are legitimately trying to trip you up.
01:36:34.000I've seen people take answers to a different question and apply them to a question that makes that answer look horrible.
01:36:56.000And those kind of deceptive practices have always been a part of the media.
01:37:01.000I have an opinion that I've been developing more and more lately that I feel like, almost like news should be non-profit.
01:37:10.000I know that sounds crazy, but I feel like there should be a rigorous examination of the objective facts, what we absolutely understand, almost by like a third party that's completely unbiased and that's regulated.
01:37:25.000And you shouldn't do that either, because then you have right-wing politics, there's left-wing politics.
01:37:49.000They banned the video and then they said, because remember, that's when Zuckerberg got up in there and was basically like, we're treating him like a mass shooter.
01:37:56.000So they immediately banned the video and then they were like, yeah, we're banning your account temporarily because you posted a video about Kyle Rittenhouse.
01:38:04.000Now, I also did another video where I said, I think it was about background checks, right?
01:38:10.000And I said, 90% of Americans do not agree with universal background checks.
01:38:40.000So, for instance, like if I came here now and wanted to give you a gun here in Texas, they want it to be federally required that you and I would have to go to a gun store, you get a background check before I can give you the gun.
01:39:36.000However, they will run into the straw purchase aspect of the law.
01:39:40.000Because then what that does is that gives you constructive intent to say, hey, look, this person bought this gun to sell it to somebody else.
01:40:30.000There are some states where you're allowed to have private transactions without requiring a background check, and then there are some states where you can't do that.
01:41:18.000And then when we talk about private transactions, I have a problem with requiring background checks on private transfers because I know what it takes for them to be effective.
01:41:28.000You cannot enforce a universal background check basically requiring you and I have to go and get a background check before I can give you a gun.
01:41:36.000You can't enforce that unless there is a national gun registration.
01:41:39.000There has to be a registry with all the guns in place that the government has with all the information, location, and everything in order for them to effectively enforce that.
01:41:48.000Because if I pull a gun out of my bag right now and hand you a gun, Right?
01:42:06.000Unless they have a database of every transaction that took place with every firearm that they can go and say, well, this particular gun belongs to Collier Noir.
01:43:58.000It's kind of like, I mean, I really honestly, I love music so much that I didn't even want to let my brain go there because I know that I probably wouldn't be able to justify it.
01:44:05.000What they have done is pretty fascinating, though, with subscription services like Spotify and Apple Music.
01:45:42.000It's statistically proven to have less errors.
01:45:45.000They've taken people that type X amount of words per minute, and they can improve the number of words per minute that they write just using a Lenovo.
01:45:57.000Let's see, but that's only PC. Yeah, but you can get a keyboard, like a Bluetooth keyboard, that will mimic that.
01:46:05.000They have some hardcore ones, like mechanical keys, which are incredible, because they have like clickety-clack to them, and you know exactly whether or not you pressed a T or an R, and when you do it like that, man, it's like your errors, it's like for me, When I write,
01:47:51.000I haven't used one of those in a long time.
01:47:52.000He goes, oh, they ruin you for other keyboards.
01:47:54.000Well, I think the reason why I don't like that is because I'm constantly going back and forth to my mouth because when I'm writing, I'm researching at the same time.
01:48:00.000So I'm like writing, going here, going here, click.
01:48:10.000I just like it to be the thing I think about the least.
01:48:14.000One of the things I really love about both, I have a Samsung phone too and I can do it on that as well, is that I can talk into my notes and I can, you know, like if I'm out and I have an idea, I just like a lot of,
01:48:29.000like all this, a lot of this shit, these are ideas that I have for material, a lot of that shit I just talk into my phone and it types it out.
01:48:40.000Usually what I'll do is like I have the same setup except I have my reminders and then I'll have like different lists and then I'll just go type it.
01:51:16.000Mitch Hedberg had a bit about how he kept a notepad by the bed and you know so if he had an idea in the middle of the night he would wake up.
01:51:25.000Or if I'm lazy I'd convince myself it wasn't funny.
01:52:00.000But the AirPods, I put this up on Instagram the other day, but if you're a person that gets in the sauna, get yourself some AirPod 1s, the first generation AirPods.
01:52:09.000Don't get AirPods 2, don't get 3, and don't get the Pros.
01:52:37.000So I have like a pair of AirPods that I have killed that just died recently, but I cooked those motherfuckers four or five days a week for like the past two or three years, and they just died.
01:52:51.000One of them, the left one, I sit with my left side near the heater, and it just tapped out the other day.
01:52:59.000Yeah, suddenly I just started doing the sauna thing.
01:54:11.000I will say, being out, like, I remember I did the shooting course, and it was, like, shooting at extended ranges, so we're shooting out to, like, 600, 700, 800 yards.
01:54:22.000And laying, and it was just white, just all snow.
01:55:09.000The only time I don't do it is right after I lift, because apparently it has some sort of an effect on hypertrophy, which limits your muscles' ability to grow, because part of the inflammation is actually good.
01:55:23.000The blood circulation, your body breaks down, you get that pump, it breaks down the tissue, and it swells up and inflames, and it's your body saying, okay, we've got to heal, this guy's trying to get swole, you know, and then you want...
01:57:03.000My knees are so much stronger like they feel more stable like everything about it I noticed a big difference cuz like I started noticing it when I was shooting like I just think in my videos when I'm doing gun reviews I like to just run for no reason but as I got older I just thought I was like why am I moving so just stiff like I'm just like nothing feels Tight.
01:57:24.000And then I started doing that and now I've kind of gotten the youth back in my legs.
01:57:28.000Where now it's like I can take off at a moment's notice.
01:57:30.000But like I was telling you also, since I've been doing kind of like this plyo stuff, plyometrics that I've been doing, I think my body's shocked.
01:57:37.000So now I'm dealing with some Achilles tendonitis in my Achilles.
01:58:37.000I mean, there are a lot of girls on OnlyFans that are doing just that.
01:58:40.000Right, but how many guys, like if you're a girl, if you're a hot girl, or if you're a hot guy, how many guys will show you a picture of their dick?
01:59:35.000And this would happen, like, not on a regular basis, but regular enough where I'm like, Started feeling normal, and then I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna have to stop doing this.
01:59:45.000So there may or may not be pictures of my dick floating around on the internet.
02:00:10.000Yeah, I think it's one of those things where it's like the variation of human beings in terms of like what they like and what they don't like is so extreme.
02:00:53.000Thank God dick pics weren't a thing when I was 15. Just think about when you first started getting laid when you were 16. Imagine if there was dick pics.
02:01:04.000Like I said, there may be or may not be some floating around.
02:01:09.000Well, the thing is with deepfakes, it doesn't matter anymore.
02:01:13.000Like, deepfakes, there's like every beautiful woman that has ever been in a movie or a television show could easily be in a porn just through a deepfake now.
02:01:22.000I remember at the genesis of that, where it was like, So-and-so famous actress in porn scene!
02:01:56.000I wonder if there's something to be said about them kind of, you know, reaching that level of technology and a lot of guys transcending from OnlyFans over to those things.
02:02:21.000I think it was something I saw on Instagram where a guy was talking about, like, he went to a guy's house because he was doing, like, some cable work or something, and he walks in and he's like, all these sex dolls.
02:02:41.000I think there's going to come a time where it might actually never even get to that because virtual reality might get to a point where they have, you know, they have these haptic feedbacks.
02:02:55.000It's like you were talking about with the guns getting zapped.
02:02:57.000But I think they're going to get to a neural interface where they're going to be able to recreate the sensations.
02:03:04.000Like if they can figure out- Talking about pacifying a society.
02:03:35.000Within our lifetime, I expect there to be a dilemma where people do not want to go outside, they only want to lock into a thing and experience a fake life.
02:04:28.000And I don't really care too much for excessive texting back and forth.
02:04:34.000Largely because, one, I'm just so busy, so it's hard for me to stay in the moment of the conversation.
02:04:39.000And then what will happen too sometimes is if, and this is just general purpose, not even just women, but I will forget to go back and respond.
02:04:47.000Because if you send me something that requires an extensive explanation, I don't want to just give you a half-assed answer right then and there.
02:07:49.000So, like, sometimes when, like, somebody's, like, riding me a little too close and we're both speeding and it gets slightly annoying, so then I'll just move over and slow.
02:08:19.000I'm not sure if I want it to get there either.
02:08:21.000But I mean, like I was just telling you, I am, like, remember, last time I was on here, I was talking about how much I would never get a Tesla.
02:08:27.000And then now, it'll come in today, and I'm like, yo, you know what?
02:09:50.000It's kind of like the paddles sometimes, where like, do you prefer the paddles mounted to the steering column, or you want them like where they're static, or do you want them mounted to the steering wheel so that when they turn, they turn?
02:10:32.000So, the other, I want to say about a few weeks ago, my friend, because I'm slowly starting getting into this, like, going to track days and stuff.
02:10:40.000A friend of mine was like, he's like, yeah, I just bought a Miata.
02:12:17.000Because I want to be able to run it to its absolute limit.
02:12:21.000And so without having to worry about having too much power or having to navigate the power, I can just run it ragged and just focus on the driving experience.
02:12:32.000I used to have an Acura NSX that I loved that for.
02:20:41.000Who's that gentleman that has that YouTube page that he figured out from looking at old images and depictions of archery from thousands of years ago, realized that our idea of them having a quiver and pulling an arrow out and See,
02:20:57.000he keeps them all in his fingers like that, and this guy figured out how to shoot multiple arrows in a second.
02:23:41.000And then he figured out how to use them against the Comanche, because they had to do a bunch of different things to deal with the Comanche.
02:23:52.000That guy right there, that's the image that we have outside, along with Quanah Parker, who was the guy who his mother was captured by the Comanche, and he was the chief of the Comanche.
02:25:05.000And so he would have to, like, break it down, pull that cartridge out, put a new one in, but it would take five rounds, and look at how these balls.
02:27:10.000Like, that's where we're going and how fast we're going, which is all just, you know, from a gun perspective, it's weird sometimes because, you know, people look at the Second Amendment like, it's talking about muskets!
02:27:24.000It's so, okay, so you want to relegate me to a musket while the government and all the criminals are using modern firearms, I'm supposed to only have a musket.
02:27:43.000If only the government was armed, you would wish you had a fucking gun.
02:27:46.000I'm telling you, like, at the end of the day, and I was talking to my friend about this, and I was like, if you think about it, so Tiananmen Square.
02:27:54.000They pretty much bulldozed right over those people.
02:27:58.000And then you go counter that with the American narrative, say, for instance, what happened in the 1960s with the Black Panthers showing up on the Capitol.
02:28:07.000You had a group of black men in the 60s showing up to the Capitol, and all they could do was have a standoff.
02:29:28.000And when human beings have that kind of control over other human beings, we just have a fucking natural inclination to tell people what to do.
02:29:39.000It's just the nature of being, which is why things were set up the way that they were set up to be checks against.
02:29:44.000So we have three branches of the government.
02:29:46.000They were supposed to all be a check on each other because they understood human nature.
02:29:50.000It's just hard for people to recognize that when we live in times of general peace.
02:29:54.000That's really what it is, what it boils down to.
02:29:55.000It's the idea, like, for a lot of people, conceptualizing the idea that they would have to deal with the tyrannical, especially here in America, to deal with the tyrannical government in their minds.
02:30:05.000And then people see that, like, don't tread on me flag, and they start fucking panicking.
02:30:09.000Oh, you want to fucking take over the government?
02:30:53.000Greece is actually a great example because, you know, there's a guy named Brian Mirorescu who wrote a book called The Immortality Key that's all about the ancient Greek societies and the Enlightenment and that this is most likely due to the fact that these people were all taking psychedelic drugs until it was shut down by the Roman emperors.
02:31:18.000Like, they came in and shut everybody down.
02:31:20.000And the reason why they shut everybody down, because you can't control people who are tripping balls and inventing democracy.
02:31:25.000Isn't that kind of what happened here in America?
02:31:46.000But there's a lot of strength in understanding that there's paths to different ways of looking at things that you just need to let go and find those ideas and concepts.
02:32:48.000Control is good, but it's also, you've got to realize there's some control in not being in control.
02:32:54.000Like, being able to let go of that control.
02:32:56.000I think what it is, too, it's so like, you know, I'm an only child.
02:32:59.000And so I've spent a lot of time with myself.
02:33:03.000And so one thing about, like, I'm not really big on trying to control people.
02:33:08.000Like, I'm very big on, like, do you, right?
02:33:12.000My control is always kind of of myself.
02:33:14.000It's a matter of, since I've spent so much time with myself and what goes on up here, I don't like the idea of anything interfering, what could possibly interfere with that.
02:34:26.000I think micro dosing is the future for a lot of people because the amounts that we're talking about are essentially like it's a very mild feeling.
02:34:37.000It's not even like being remotely high.
02:34:40.000It's very mild, mild elevation and reduction of stress and relaxation.
02:38:31.000These things that I got paranoid about, it's probably like some unresolved issues or some thoughts that I have in my head that I need to really work out.
02:38:47.000You know, I had a debate once with this guy, Mike Hart, who's a cannabis doctor from Canada, and Alex Berenson, who is a guy who used to write for the New York Times, who wrote a book called Tell Your Children that's all about the dangers of marijuana.
02:40:33.000However, I do think it should be legal.
02:40:36.000I think almost everything should be legal.
02:40:38.000And I think the argument against that is kind of silly.
02:40:41.000Because you look at the amount of cocaine that makes its way into this country that's laced with fentanyl and people start dying left and right because it's unregulated.
02:40:53.000No one's talking about how fucking bad that is right now.
02:40:57.000Well, one thing they're talking about is the amount of people that have died of overdose, 18 to 49. It's the number one killer of people 18 to 49. And no one's talking about it.
02:41:53.000Like, when did fentanyl overdoses start making their way into the United States?
02:41:57.000And by the way, all the precursors for that shit come from China, and they all go into Mexico, and people are profiting, and it's a dirty business, man, where billions and billions of dollars are being generated, and they're being generated exclusively by illegal drug cartels.
02:42:15.000And there's nothing you can do about that.
02:42:16.000And the amount of resources they have because of that, I mean, you've seen some of the fucking warfare that they have, the cartel- Warfare?
02:43:06.000There was a number they had the other day where they were talking about the number of illegal aliens that make their way through the southern border every day, and it's astounding.
02:43:20.000That is more than a quarter million a year.
02:43:23.000But I mean, it demonstrates how porous it is.
02:43:25.000So if that many people are coming over here, you have to think about how easy it is for the people we really don't want over here getting over here.
02:46:57.000But he's brilliant, and he's unusual in the fact that he was a clean, straight-laced research professor who, upon His examination of these drugs in a research setting started realizing that our ideas of them were completely exaggerated and screwed and he enjoys heroin but he'll snort a little bit of it and like have great conversations and have a wonderful time with his wife and but he talks bravely about it where like if you're a fucking professor
02:47:28.000at a university like who the fuck is out there talking about doing schedule one drugs yeah I mean, look, I'm not at all near anywhere that shit, but I mean...
02:49:24.000Right, but if someone's child died of an overdose because they made cocaine legal and they just started doing cocaine, they had a heart attack and died, you'd be like, blood is on your hands.
02:51:02.000They had those old ones with the circle thing, the circle magazine.
02:51:08.000Yeah, that is a wild time when you think about the amount of money that was transferred to illegal organizations just because people wanted alcohol and the government had designed...
02:51:51.000I don't know if it was a religious thing or a political thing, but it was one of the two, which could have been at that time the same thing.
02:52:04.000They probably thought they were going to make a better society.
02:52:06.000We're going to build a better society.
02:52:07.000There's an oversimplification of things.
02:52:09.000And I think, too, to a certain degree, especially when we talk about the gun stuff, too, I think we create the problems because we're always looking to our leaders to give us oversimplified solutions to complex issues.
02:52:22.000And we don't give them the leeway to try to figure it out.
02:52:26.000So we kind of almost, to a certain degree, force them to say, let me grab on to the easiest, most visible way to say I'm solving this solution so they can get off my back.
02:52:36.000Or I can look like I'm not incompetent.
02:52:39.000Because we want our solutions now, we want them fast, and we want them easy.
02:52:43.000And that's, I think, the major problem that we're having in terms of our dynamic and relationship with our leaders and the public as a whole.
02:52:50.000It's because we always want an oversimplified solution to very complex problems.
02:53:02.000We have so many unresolved, super complex problems in this country, too, like extreme poverty, what's happening in certain inner cities like the South Side of Chicago, like Detroit, Baltimore.
02:53:15.000There's many of them that you could point to that have never changed.
02:53:19.000They're the same as they were decades ago.
02:53:21.000If anything, they've gotten worse, and there's no effort to really have a compromise.
02:54:48.000If the purpose that it was written was to allow the people to have the ability to check a potential tyrannical government, domestic or foreign, why would they write in the Constitution telling the government that they have the ability to own firearms?
02:55:47.000The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed because we understand that a militia, which is comprised of the people, is needed in order to protect the security of the state which is created.
02:55:57.000Yeah, and when they say that's when people had muskets, yeah, the government too, you fuck.
02:56:32.000And always I say Tiananmen Square is because I just recently watched a video about it again because I was just refreshing my brain about it.
02:56:37.000Who do you think the people were who came in and killed the people who were protesting?
02:56:46.000There was a video of a girl, woman, by the way, who was talking about taking arms up against the people.
02:56:55.000And this was about lockdowns during COVID. And she was talking about, if you don't think that I would take arms against you and shoot you, That you're crazy.
02:57:37.000It's for the people to have firearms too.
02:57:41.000But we still have this problem with mass shooting.
02:57:44.000So what the fuck is the solution to temper that, to stop that, to mitigate that, to do something to keep evil, destroyed, disturbed people from getting their hands on guns.
02:57:56.000So let's put things in the framework of the reality we are in.
02:58:01.000The vast majority of the people who are committing mass shootings are getting their guns legally.
02:58:05.000It's not like they're getting them off the streets legally.
02:58:37.000So they're passing background checks because they don't have criminal histories and they're getting these guns and they're committing violence.
02:58:43.000In any event that they do have a history that could have prevented them from doing it, the system failed.
02:58:48.000The Charleston shooter, he shouldn't have never had the gun.
02:58:51.000But the way the system was executed, the way they conducted the background check, there was a mistake.
02:59:41.000We have over 400 million guns in this country.
02:59:43.000You think you're going to write a law that says we're not allowed to have AR-15s anymore and now you're no longer going to see mass shootings where AR-15s are involved?
02:59:51.000And then even if you do, AR-15s make up less than a fraction of the guns used in actual gun deaths.
02:59:58.000So what is the solution if these people are passing background checks and they are getting guns legally and they're still committing these horrific mass murders?
03:00:16.000There's nothing we can do in terms of...
03:00:18.000So from a mental health perspective, we can have the conversation about what type of evaluation would take place that would preclude some...
03:00:26.000Like, what type of diagnosis would be required to preclude somebody from their Second Amendment right to own a firearm, even though they've actually never committed a crime?
03:00:35.000That's the question we have to address.
03:01:18.000But then the whole mental health spectrum is so broad and so complicated that you're not going to get anything as definitive as anybody who has anxiety or depression can't own guns.
03:01:28.000It has to be action-based or potentially action-based.
03:01:31.000If you're in the process of, say, like you can be charged with attempted murder because you took substantial steps to go and murder somebody.
03:01:38.000You may not have been able to do it, but you took substantial steps to do it.
03:01:41.000So therefore, we can charge you with attempted murder.
03:01:45.000Now, somebody, for instance, there have been numerous stories where people have said, they've written, I'm going to kill these people.
03:01:51.000They have lists of names they're going to do.
03:02:33.000When people want to have a solution, then all of a sudden it becomes political.
03:02:39.000And it doesn't become political in that there's necessarily some sort of an interest to get the people unarmed, as much as there is to come up with at least a paper solution that makes people satisfied that their politicians are doing the work.
03:03:00.000And that's another thing that doesn't get done very well, is putting in hate boxes, but for the sake of making the necessary distinctions of the people having the conversations, right?
03:03:11.000You have the politicians, like, they really don't want anyone to have guns.
03:03:44.000We have over 300 million people in this country.
03:03:48.000Just those numbers alone, they're going to be substantially more crazy people who haven't done anything crazy than other places.
03:03:55.000People always want to compare us to the UK. So the UK as a whole is about the size of New York.
03:04:00.000So naturally, you're just going to have more people willing to do crazy stuff like that because we have so many people from different backgrounds and just so diverse in terms of upbringing, you name it.
03:04:12.000So we're going to be more exposed to people who are willing to do things like that.
03:04:19.000So as a result of that, we need to empower the people who aren't like that to be able to stop it when it arises.
03:04:26.000And you don't do that by making people defenseless.
03:04:31.000So what you're offering is a pragmatic approach.
03:04:36.000Solution to deal with the very real problem that we have here.
03:04:39.000Not looking at it in terms of a romantic version of how we're going to take away all the bad guns and all the bad violence is going to stop.
03:04:47.000You're looking at it in terms of what are the actual facts, what are we actually dealing with, and what is the only actionable solution.
03:04:54.000Yeah, because if you ban AR-15s, or let's say in some cases, and Joe's actually said he wanted to ban semi-automatic weapons, cool.
03:05:04.000But it means nothing when the guy shows up to my house to kick in my door has one.
03:05:09.000All you need is a double-bound shotgun.
03:05:11.000You can't try to shoot one off into the air.