The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1849

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00:00:12.000 Hello, Rich.

00:00:13.000 Hello, Joe.

00:00:13.000 Good to see you.

00:00:14.000 What's happening?

00:00:14.000 How good is it, friend?

00:00:15.000 It's been a while.

00:00:15.000 It's been a while, man.

00:00:16.000 I've been watching your exploits.

00:00:18.000 Thank you very much.

00:00:19.000 Thank you.

00:00:20.000 Thank you, thank you.

00:00:20.000 How is that V8 Tesla?

00:00:22.000 You know, it's funny.

00:00:23.000 I brought you something.

00:00:24.000 Yeah?

00:00:24.000 I brought you a magazine.

00:00:25.000 Oh.

00:00:26.000 Based on the V8 Tesla.

00:00:27.000 That's for you.

00:00:27.000 Oh, no shit.

00:00:28.000 Actually, my hotel key's in there, so just so you can't take the whole thing.

00:00:31.000 Popular Mechanics.

00:00:32.000 Yes, front cover.

00:00:33.000 Wow.

00:00:34.000 Thank you, thank you.

00:00:35.000 Did Tesla reach out?

00:00:37.000 Are they still at odds with you?

00:00:39.000 You know what's funny?

00:00:39.000 I don't even know if they're...

00:00:40.000 They don't really care about me.

00:00:41.000 They don't?

00:00:41.000 But they did for a while, right?

00:00:43.000 I think, you know what, they would watch me in silence and just cautiously observe what I do, pretty much.

00:00:48.000 We should just tell everybody why.

00:00:50.000 You were one of the very first guys that...

00:00:53.000 That's yours, that's yours.

00:00:54.000 Oh, thank you.

00:00:55.000 Yeah.

00:00:55.000 One of the very first guys that started working on electric vehicles, on Teslas, as an unauthorized repair person.

00:01:05.000 Correct, yes.

00:01:06.000 And then you would also buy scrap Teslas and piece them together at an incredible savings.

00:01:12.000 Yes, exactly.

00:01:13.000 And make a fucking awesome car.

00:01:15.000 Right, but they didn't really like that that much because that really didn't fall in line with their policy on Just buying a new damn car.

00:01:23.000 Don't hobble together six different cars, just buy one good car from us.

00:01:27.000 How could they not see that that's cool?

00:01:29.000 First of all, it's green.

00:01:30.000 Yes, it's very green, yes.

00:01:32.000 Absolutely.

00:01:33.000 You're literally recycling broken Teslas, putting them back together again.

00:01:37.000 And it takes great skill to do that because I watched the videos.

00:01:43.000 It's fucking complicated what you had to go through.

00:01:44.000 It's not easy, no.

00:01:45.000 But I mean, that doesn't...

00:01:46.000 Why should they care about green?

00:01:48.000 It's just about making money at that point.

00:01:50.000 I mean, if you think about this, what would...

00:01:53.000 I have this debate all the time.

00:01:55.000 A lot of people force others into buying an electric car to say, buying an electric car will solve the world's pollution issues.

00:02:05.000 It's good for the environment.

00:02:06.000 In reality, the best thing we could do is take a look at ourselves and see what we're wasting all of our energy on.

00:02:14.000 Do you really need a Tesla?

00:02:15.000 A bike would probably suffice.

00:02:17.000 You can just walk.

00:02:18.000 Just walk.

00:02:18.000 Just walk everywhere.

00:02:19.000 Yeah, try walking.

00:02:20.000 You don't really have to get rid of your 98 Honda Civic that gets 40 miles to the gallon to get a Tesla to pretend you're saving the environment.

00:02:27.000 You're kind of doing something because you're not contributing as much to pollution, but then you have to power that car.

00:02:34.000 And sometimes people are powering their Tesla with coal plants, which is very ironic.

00:02:40.000 It's funny.

00:02:40.000 You know what?

00:02:41.000 A lot of good people, I'm not saying the ones that don't are bad, but a lot of people are also powering the Teslas with the sun.

00:02:48.000 So they have their Tesla, they plug it in, they have the solar panels on the roof, which is admirable.

00:02:52.000 That's great.

00:02:53.000 At the same time, Yeah.

00:03:16.000 Yeah, I watched this landscaper the other day walk around my yard spraying stuff.

00:03:20.000 I'm like, what's in that bottle?

00:03:22.000 Am I still cool walking around barefoot?

00:03:26.000 What happens if that shit gets on my feet?

00:03:28.000 Wait, they tell you not to walk on it after they spray it, don't they?

00:03:31.000 I don't know.

00:03:31.000 This guy didn't tell me nothing.

00:03:33.000 Oh, jeez.

00:03:33.000 I would check your feet, Joe.

00:03:35.000 Check your feet for sure.

00:03:36.000 Oh, no.

00:03:36.000 Yeah.

00:03:37.000 Probably missing a toe.

00:03:37.000 Well, I was listening to some podcast where this guy got cancer because he played golf, and he was taking the pegs out and putting them in his mouth.

00:03:50.000 Like, is that a common thing, Jamie?

00:03:52.000 Those are called tees, though.

00:03:54.000 Oh, tees, sorry.

00:03:55.000 Are you a golfer, Joe?

00:03:56.000 No.

00:03:57.000 Not a golfer.

00:03:58.000 You're not a golfer, Joe.

00:03:59.000 Last time you mentioned this, I looked it up.

00:04:01.000 It is a thing, for sure.

00:04:02.000 So guys are getting cancer from that?

00:04:04.000 Yeah, they even say don't do it because they treat golf courses with tons of stuff.

00:04:10.000 For sure there's fertilizer on there every morning or piss and poop.

00:04:15.000 Yeah, but the fertilizer is going to scare me.

00:04:19.000 So you've got to pick your angle though.

00:04:20.000 What are you all about?

00:04:22.000 I have four Teslas, that's great.

00:04:24.000 Again, you're not contributing in other ways.

00:04:26.000 So who's better than who, Joe?

00:04:28.000 Yeah, that's the thing, right?

00:04:30.000 Everyone wants to pretend they're better.

00:04:31.000 And now people are upset because Elon Musk said he would vote Republican because the Democrats have lost their minds.

00:04:36.000 That pissed a whole lot of people off, Joe.

00:04:38.000 My virtue signaling by driving your car!

00:04:41.000 My savior!

00:04:42.000 Yeah, it didn't affect sales, though.

00:04:43.000 I'll tell you that much.

00:04:44.000 I'm sure not.

00:04:44.000 They're fucking great cars.

00:04:45.000 They're absolutely great.

00:04:46.000 Do you still have yours?

00:04:47.000 Yeah, I have a new one.

00:04:48.000 I have a Plaid that I drove here.

00:04:49.000 How do you like your Plaid, by the way?

00:04:51.000 I hate the steering wheel.

00:04:52.000 Yes.

00:04:53.000 I don't like it.

00:04:54.000 I don't like...

00:04:55.000 The other guy changed lanes right in front of me.

00:04:58.000 I went to hammer the...

00:04:59.000 Center console.

00:05:00.000 Can't do that.

00:05:00.000 The center button.

00:05:01.000 There's no horn there.

00:05:02.000 There's no physical horn, yeah.

00:05:03.000 The horn is a button that's like you've got to get your thumb over to it.

00:05:07.000 Right.

00:05:07.000 It's totally non-intuitive.

00:05:09.000 I think they've adjusted that.

00:05:11.000 I think the new ones, which sucks for me, I don't know if they can retrofit the scene anyway.

00:05:16.000 Just buy a new car.

00:05:16.000 That's what they want to do.

00:05:17.000 Just buy a new car, Joe.

00:05:17.000 What's the big deal?

00:05:18.000 Buy a new one.

00:05:19.000 That's annoying.

00:05:20.000 So the funny thing about Tesla is that I have an older one and what they don't tell you is after some time the battery degrades.

00:05:27.000 And I have a Model X, and I get about 200 and maybe 13 miles of range.

00:05:33.000 That's not good.

00:05:34.000 Which is not good, but at the same time, the suggestion is, well, just buy a new one.

00:05:37.000 It's like, well, they're kind of expensive.

00:05:39.000 What was the new, when it was brand new, what was the range?

00:05:41.000 Brand new, it was, I think about, it was a P, it's a 90D. I think the range was about maybe in the 250s.

00:05:49.000 So it's lost some.

00:05:50.000 So it's lost some.

00:05:51.000 Jamie has an X. How's yours?

00:05:55.000 I don't really charge it past 250 ever, and I never go below 60. And I charge it every week, just so that I don't have those problems.

00:06:03.000 But he has that option.

00:06:04.000 What year is yours, Jamie?

00:06:05.000 2020?

00:06:06.000 Oh, mine's like a 2016. I have the poverty spec one, the 2016. And that is, was that the first year they came out?

00:06:13.000 First year.

00:06:14.000 Tiffany Haddish had one of those, and she was making a dance in the parking lot of the comedy store.

00:06:18.000 I hate that.

00:06:18.000 I hate that dance so much.

00:06:20.000 I hate it.

00:06:21.000 I hate it, Joe.

00:06:22.000 I do.

00:06:22.000 It's kind of fun.

00:06:23.000 It is kind of fun, but when I see someone, I immediately just walk away.

00:06:27.000 I just, for some reason, I think it's so...

00:06:29.000 It's so gimmicky, and then, you know, I did that once to impress my kids, and the door broke, and I was like, you know what, never again.

00:06:35.000 The doors are odd, the way they come up.

00:06:38.000 It's just, like, so Lamborghini-esque.

00:06:40.000 Right.

00:06:40.000 It looks cool, though.

00:06:41.000 It's a great party trick.

00:06:42.000 When I get my kids from school, and they just go apeshit for it.

00:06:44.000 The kids love it.

00:06:45.000 I have friends who love Ferraris, but would never buy a Lamborghini.

00:06:49.000 And I'm like, why?

00:06:50.000 They're like, the doors, the way they open, it's just too douchey.

00:06:52.000 The car's too douchey.

00:06:53.000 You know, do Lamborghinis still open like that still?

00:06:55.000 I think the older Lamborghinis, the newer ones, I think they open like regular Audis now, yeah.

00:07:00.000 Oh, okay.

00:07:00.000 I think it's maybe the, I could be wrong, maybe the Aventador opens up, but I think Lambos have kind of steered away from that now.

00:07:07.000 Oh, so only the Aventador has the crazy doors?

00:07:09.000 I could be wrong.

00:07:11.000 Maybe.

00:07:12.000 Jamie, is that true or not?

00:07:13.000 Can I ask Jamie's stuff?

00:07:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:07:15.000 I'd be like a jerk.

00:07:17.000 I don't know how to look that up.

00:07:18.000 I'd say Aventador.

00:07:21.000 There's a company that does it for people, for other cars.

00:07:23.000 Oh, God.

00:07:23.000 I've seen that in a Mustang.

00:07:25.000 Some dude had a Mustang with a Lamborghini door.

00:07:27.000 They love to do that.

00:07:28.000 It's just a dumb way to do a door.

00:07:30.000 It really is.

00:07:31.000 Does your BMW have that?

00:07:33.000 Jesus, why do you do that?

00:07:33.000 Yeah, it does, actually.

00:07:36.000 I was hoping you would mention that.

00:07:37.000 Yeah, the i8 does have that.

00:07:38.000 How is that?

00:07:39.000 How is that car?

00:07:40.000 I love that car, but most people hate it.

00:07:43.000 It's very narrow tires.

00:07:44.000 It's very narrow, skinny tires.

00:07:46.000 I put wider tires on it to be a poser.

00:07:47.000 But I have wider tires on it, but it's not a very fast car.

00:07:51.000 No?

00:07:51.000 It's a very good-looking car.

00:07:53.000 It looks like it would be fast.

00:07:54.000 It looks that way, yeah.

00:07:56.000 So a common misconception is that When people think it looks fast, they try to race me.

00:08:02.000 So on the highway, I'm just cruising around going 70 miles an hour.

00:08:05.000 And then there's this V6 Passat will pull next to me.

00:08:10.000 And he'll start revving me to engage me on.

00:08:12.000 And I don't engage just in case, joke.

00:08:15.000 If this guy has something on the hood, he could take me out.

00:08:17.000 So for the most part, I'm just cruising.

00:08:19.000 I'm like, hey, have a nice day.

00:08:20.000 You like my car?

00:08:20.000 Thank you very much.

00:08:21.000 And that's pretty much it.

00:08:22.000 Yeah, the revving next to you on the highway.

00:08:24.000 What an unfortunate thing.

00:08:26.000 Do you get that in your plaid?

00:08:26.000 Of course.

00:08:27.000 Really?

00:08:28.000 Yeah.

00:08:28.000 You ever throw the hammer down and show them who's boss?

00:08:30.000 No.

00:08:30.000 Really?

00:08:31.000 No, it's because it's boss.

00:08:33.000 Right.

00:08:33.000 You don't have to.

00:08:34.000 Right.

00:08:34.000 That car goes zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds.

00:08:36.000 Seriously.

00:08:36.000 It's a preposterously fast car.

00:08:39.000 Seriously.

00:08:39.000 Everything is awesome except the steering wheel.

00:08:41.000 Right.

00:08:41.000 Steering wheel sucks.

00:08:42.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:08:44.000 As great as that Tesla is, and this is a common debate I get into all the time with Tesla owners, Where are your other cars?

00:08:52.000 Do you still own them?

00:08:53.000 Do you have the Porsche still?

00:08:54.000 Yeah.

00:08:54.000 So that's what I'm saying.

00:08:55.000 It's very...

00:08:57.000 From a car enthusiast perspective, as great as that car is, you can't only have that car.

00:09:02.000 There are other cars that check certain boxes for you that do other things that the Plaid doesn't do.

00:09:07.000 Well, I'm a big fan of the old muscle cars.

00:09:10.000 You have the Corvette still?

00:09:11.000 Yeah, I have that.

00:09:12.000 I have a few, like, 60s, 70s muscle cars.

00:09:16.000 Right.

00:09:16.000 Those, they give you the emotions.

00:09:20.000 Yes.

00:09:21.000 Yeah.

00:09:22.000 The car...

00:09:25.000 Yeah.

00:09:25.000 Which car is that?

00:09:26.000 That actually sounded very familiar.

00:09:28.000 I don't know.

00:09:28.000 Okay.

00:09:28.000 My impressions of cars suck.

00:09:31.000 But I love the old V8 muscle cars.

00:09:34.000 But it's because I was in high school in the 80s and that's what everybody wanted.

00:09:38.000 Right.

00:09:39.000 That's imprinted in my brain.

00:09:40.000 That's what I always wanted was muscle cars.

00:09:42.000 If you think about it, they're slow.

00:09:44.000 They're inefficient.

00:09:46.000 They don't do anything well.

00:09:47.000 They don't handle well.

00:09:48.000 Nope.

00:09:49.000 But they give you the emotion.

00:09:50.000 They stick around.

00:09:51.000 Compared to the Plaid, the Plaid wipes the floor with those cars.

00:09:55.000 But there's just something about it.

00:09:57.000 And this is an enthusiast thing.

00:09:58.000 A lot of people don't really understand this.

00:10:00.000 When they buy a Tesla, they're just like, why have anything else?

00:10:03.000 And it's like, well, these cars do other things the Tesla doesn't do.

00:10:07.000 When you think about it, they have autopilot.

00:10:10.000 It has Netflix.

00:10:11.000 It has a lot of things in the car.

00:10:13.000 To take away from the fact that it's a very mundane driving experience.

00:10:16.000 Unless you're flooring it, that clad is just like a Camry.

00:10:19.000 It's very calm and smooth unless you're flooring it and then it's a rollercoaster ride.

00:10:24.000 Right.

00:10:25.000 It's like...

00:10:25.000 But it's silent.

00:10:27.000 Right.

00:10:27.000 There's something about the driving experience.

00:10:30.000 It's very comfortable.

00:10:32.000 It's very relaxing.

00:10:33.000 I love driving it to work.

00:10:35.000 But it's not the same experience.

00:10:37.000 It's like I have an E46 M3. Oh, you do?

00:10:39.000 Yeah.

00:10:40.000 I love it.

00:10:40.000 Modified?

00:10:41.000 Stocked?

00:10:42.000 It has a supercharger.

00:10:43.000 Oh, okay.

00:10:44.000 It's got a dine-in set up.

00:10:45.000 Nice.

00:10:46.000 Yeah.

00:10:46.000 But it's not the fastest car in the world, but it's so connected.

00:10:52.000 It's fun.

00:10:53.000 You feel that car.

00:10:54.000 You feel the turn-in, the way it handles.

00:10:56.000 It's just like that car gives you emotions that the Tesla just will not give you.

00:11:02.000 And I think, yeah, I think people don't really understand it.

00:11:05.000 But I'm glad you said that because of all the enthusiasts that I know, As great as Teslas are, they still have their gas cars.

00:11:11.000 Yeah.

00:11:11.000 They still have all those.

00:11:12.000 If I had to only have one car, it might be the Tesla because it's so easy to drive.

00:11:18.000 Right.

00:11:19.000 But the charging thing's a bitch.

00:11:22.000 Really?

00:11:22.000 If I didn't have one at my house and I didn't have one here, a charging port, like if I lived in an apartment and I couldn't get charged anywhere.

00:11:29.000 I have friends that don't have a charging thing at their house and it's fucking annoying.

00:11:33.000 You've got to go somewhere.

00:11:34.000 It's funny how people...

00:11:36.000 Want Teslas so bad, they're willing to live with a lot of the inconveniences of them, for example.

00:11:42.000 I think they were saying on, I forget what investing site it is, Tesla owners have the longest lease terms, the longest payment terms.

00:11:50.000 Of any other manufacturer.

00:11:52.000 People just want these cars so much it's not even funny.

00:11:55.000 You live in an apartment, it is tough because a lot of people are starting to petition to their apartments to say, install a charging station because I have a Tesla and I have every right to charge my car here.

00:12:04.000 Sort of.

00:12:05.000 Yeah.

00:12:05.000 You sort of do.

00:12:06.000 Right.

00:12:07.000 Because it costs money to charge.

00:12:08.000 It costs money to charge.

00:12:09.000 Who's paying for that money?

00:12:10.000 You're going to have a pay thing?

00:12:12.000 They won't pay.

00:12:13.000 Yeah, they don't want to pay.

00:12:14.000 They would just fucking let me Just do it, yeah.

00:12:17.000 And then they'll leave the complex two months later, and then you have a charger sitting there.

00:12:21.000 Yeah, and then also, like, you can't have a Tesla charger, because then what if someone has, like, one of them E-Mustangs?

00:12:27.000 Exactly.

00:12:28.000 And then it won't really fit the charger thing.

00:12:31.000 Which is very weird.

00:12:32.000 It has to be a universal charger.

00:12:33.000 I think Tesla is looking into opening it up to everyone.

00:12:36.000 And I think that's a scary move, because Tesla's leg up on everyone is the fact that They have one of the best charging infrastructures, period.

00:12:47.000 But when you start letting other knuckleheads in there, it's like, well, if someone doesn't like Tesla, maybe this Mustang Mach-E isn't so bad.

00:12:56.000 Maybe the new BMW isn't so bad.

00:12:59.000 Maybe it's a bold move in doing that because they're so confident that no one's going to take their seat.

00:13:04.000 They're just like, hey, let's open it up for the peasants.

00:13:06.000 You know what I mean?

00:13:07.000 I think it's only got to be sort of a philanthropic move or just a kindness move.

00:13:14.000 It's not a good business move.

00:13:16.000 No.

00:13:16.000 Because there's cars like the Taycan.

00:13:18.000 I have a friend who has a Taycan.

00:13:19.000 I love those things.

00:13:20.000 He says it's fucking incredible.

00:13:21.000 I want one so bad.

00:13:22.000 I do want one.

00:13:23.000 He said the interior is so superior and the way it handles and drives is superior.

00:13:27.000 Have you been in it?

00:13:28.000 No, I haven't.

00:13:29.000 I've seen one drive by.

00:13:30.000 That's it.

00:13:31.000 I've never been in one.

00:13:32.000 No, they're a great car.

00:13:33.000 But that's the sad part, because I bought my first Porsche recently, by the way.

00:13:37.000 Oh, yeah?

00:13:38.000 What'd you get?

00:13:38.000 A 911 Turbo.

00:13:39.000 Ooh, what year?

00:13:40.000 Thank you.

00:13:41.000 It's a 16. Nice.

00:13:43.000 16 Turbo S. I love that car so much.

00:13:46.000 I actually had an Audi RS7 that I sold.

00:13:49.000 Because that car is that great.

00:13:51.000 And I'll tell you, every month that goes by, I'm probably going to keep selling cars because I love that one so much.

00:13:55.000 It's a pretty amazing car.

00:13:57.000 You have a GT3? GT3 RS. You know the deal.

00:14:02.000 It does everything perfectly.

00:14:06.000 Yeah, it's a pretty amazing car.

00:14:08.000 And the turbo, like that year, that's a 992, right?

00:14:11.000 991. It's a 991. Yeah.

00:14:13.000 So that year is, it's pretty bulletproof.

00:14:16.000 Yeah.

00:14:16.000 I had a 996 turbo.

00:14:19.000 It kept breaking.

00:14:20.000 Really?

00:14:20.000 Bunch of shit.

00:14:21.000 Like, the shift linkage broke twice.

00:14:24.000 Really?

00:14:24.000 Where I was in gear, and I was shifting gear, just went clink, and just started floating around.

00:14:28.000 I hear that happens.

00:14:28.000 On two different occasions.

00:14:29.000 Really?

00:14:29.000 Yeah.

00:14:30.000 And I only had it for two years.

00:14:32.000 It broke a bunch of times.

00:14:33.000 The fuel gauge broke.

00:14:34.000 Oh, jeez.

00:14:35.000 Where it just ran out of gas on the highway.

00:14:37.000 Like, what the fuck?

00:14:38.000 Really?

00:14:38.000 I think they've made a lot of improvements.

00:14:39.000 I have the PDK. Mine's not the...

00:14:40.000 I have the one that just shifts like that.

00:14:42.000 And it's been pretty good so far.

00:14:44.000 No, that's what I'm saying.

00:14:46.000 Like, by the time it got to the 997 and the 991...

00:14:49.000 Right.

00:14:50.000 It's bulletproof.

00:14:51.000 The new ones are supposed to be amongst the most reliable cars you could buy.

00:14:55.000 Right.

00:14:55.000 I think the new 911 Turbo Lightweight...

00:15:00.000 I think it's the fastest car in the world to like 30. I don't know what that means.

00:15:05.000 That means much at all.

00:15:06.000 But I think it's one of the few gas cars that can actually compete with the Plaid.

00:15:10.000 Yeah.

00:15:10.000 In terms of acceleration.

00:15:11.000 That's the Turbo S lightweight, right?

00:15:13.000 Turbo S lightweight, yes.

00:15:14.000 Yeah, that's a ridiculous car.

00:15:16.000 Yeah.

00:15:16.000 And it's weird too.

00:15:18.000 The Plaid's great in every way, but I would rather have the Turbo.

00:15:23.000 How come?

00:15:23.000 Is that weird to me?

00:15:24.000 Because if I'm only going to live with one car, I would want one that...

00:15:31.000 It's almost a marvel of technology.

00:15:35.000 The Plaid is too, but all that does is it takes energy from the battery and goes to two electric motors.

00:15:41.000 The Porsche, everything is tuned.

00:15:44.000 The exhaust is tuned for a certain sound.

00:15:46.000 The engine is tuned for a certain sound.

00:15:48.000 Everything from that car It's handmade just for driver pleasure.

00:15:54.000 Whereas the Plaid is more like, hey, listen, there's Netflix.

00:15:56.000 Look at that cool little screen.

00:15:57.000 The car drives for you.

00:15:58.000 I don't want a car that can drive for you, which is why you'll see a lot of supercars don't do that.

00:16:03.000 The cars that everyone achieves to be, they don't drive for you because they want you to drive them.

00:16:08.000 Right, they want you to feel it.

00:16:09.000 Like a supercar wants you to feel the car.

00:16:12.000 It gives you a feeling, an excitement of emotion.

00:16:15.000 But the problem with the turbo is that sound is not as good as the sound from the GT3. No, it's not.

00:16:22.000 But the GT3 was a lot of my range.

00:16:23.000 That's the only thing.

00:16:24.000 The GT3 has that high revving.

00:16:28.000 And the shifting of the gears, the manuals, everything.

00:16:33.000 It's everything with those cars.

00:16:35.000 I think I'm getting lazy and old.

00:16:36.000 I'll have the car just shift.

00:16:38.000 Just do the job for me, please.

00:16:39.000 It's still pretty fun.

00:16:41.000 It's fun, but you know how cars sound.

00:16:43.000 Have you been in a Porsche with a PDK or whatever other shifting you have?

00:16:47.000 Just the shifts are so crisp and fast.

00:16:51.000 Yeah.

00:16:51.000 You just sit there and you're just amazed by it.

00:16:53.000 I never get bored going through the gears in that car.

00:16:56.000 Just flat footing it.

00:16:57.000 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

00:16:58.000 It just sounds great.

00:16:59.000 Do you use the paddles ever?

00:17:00.000 I never have used the paddles.

00:17:01.000 Yeah, I never.

00:17:01.000 I used to have a BMW that had paddled.

00:17:03.000 I never used it.

00:17:04.000 Yeah.

00:17:05.000 I just downshift, put it in sport, and the car does everything.

00:17:08.000 It's such a cool car.

00:17:09.000 Well, the other thing is the handling of those things.

00:17:12.000 It's telepathic.

00:17:13.000 It's so good.

00:17:14.000 It is.

00:17:15.000 And a lot of that went to the Taycan as well.

00:17:17.000 The Taycan's interesting because it's...

00:17:18.000 I don't...

00:17:21.000 It's inferior to the Plaid in a lot of ways.

00:17:25.000 Not handling, no.

00:17:26.000 How is it inferior?

00:17:27.000 It's not as fast as the Plaid.

00:17:29.000 How much difference?

00:17:32.000 Less than people would actually notice.

00:17:34.000 It's probably like a, I would say, half a second or so.

00:17:37.000 Half a second slower.

00:17:38.000 But people go by those metrics all the time.

00:17:40.000 In the real world, they're probably just as fast as each other.

00:17:43.000 But on the track, the Plaid has another maybe 10 miles an hour.

00:17:48.000 So it is the faster car.

00:17:50.000 Technology-wise, Tesla has it beat.

00:17:53.000 It has the charging network, it has the tech, it has the self-driving features, it has everything.

00:17:57.000 But I would prefer the Taycan only because you don't see them everywhere.

00:18:03.000 You could option out a Taycan.

00:18:05.000 I got bored one night.

00:18:06.000 I think I optioned one out to a quarter of a million dollars, that thing.

00:18:11.000 Imagine paying a quarter mil for a bespoke Porsche And a plaid wiping the floor with you.

00:18:17.000 That's true.

00:18:18.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:18.000 You could give them a swatch of your wife's underwear, and they'll make the interior that color.

00:18:24.000 Really?

00:18:24.000 I didn't know that, yeah.

00:18:26.000 Or your girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever.

00:18:28.000 Give them the thing, they'll make the entire interior whatever color you want.

00:18:31.000 The whole car is custom made, but you'll still lose to a plaid at the end of the day, which is $100,000 less.

00:18:37.000 It seems kind of weird that they wouldn't juice that sucker up to make it as fast as a Plaid.

00:18:42.000 I think they probably didn't see the Plaid coming.

00:18:45.000 Really?

00:18:45.000 How did they not know?

00:18:46.000 I don't know.

00:18:47.000 But even the original S, like the P100D, the first one that I had was zero to 60 in two and a half seconds.

00:18:52.000 Yeah, that was insane.

00:18:53.000 Pretty fast.

00:18:54.000 That's a pretty fast car.

00:18:55.000 Does the Plaid feel significantly faster?

00:18:58.000 It feels faster.

00:18:59.000 It feels like it defies time.

00:19:01.000 Right.

00:19:01.000 Like it defies physics.

00:19:03.000 So I think that's the difference between...

00:19:07.000 I feel like the P100D and the Taycan Turbo are probably a little bit more similar than the Plaid.

00:19:16.000 The Plaid just destroys...

00:19:18.000 Everything.

00:19:18.000 Yeah.

00:19:19.000 Everything.

00:19:20.000 It's a preposterously fast car.

00:19:21.000 Right.

00:19:22.000 But again, it doesn't have a fucking horn in the center.

00:19:25.000 Nope.

00:19:25.000 It doesn't have a stalk for the blinkers.

00:19:28.000 Nope.

00:19:28.000 Or the windshield wipers.

00:19:29.000 They want to just like rub your brain like Xavier.

00:19:31.000 Like mmmm.

00:19:32.000 Have the horn, right.

00:19:32.000 You even change gears with the screen.

00:19:34.000 You go backwards.

00:19:35.000 I hate that so much.

00:19:36.000 You have to swipe to park drive.

00:19:37.000 I can't do that.

00:19:39.000 It's silly.

00:19:39.000 But other than that.

00:19:40.000 The driving experience and just the tech in the car is incredible.

00:19:43.000 I just think they're going too far minimalist with buttons and stuff.

00:19:48.000 So you come from, a lot of people that come from luxury vehicles, like Mercedes, high-end cars, like S-Classes, they go to a Tesla, they're just like, what's all this?

00:19:57.000 These seats don't vibrate.

00:19:59.000 You know what I mean?

00:20:00.000 Where are the contours and the dash?

00:20:01.000 The Plaid's just like a straight line yoke and a screen.

00:20:05.000 Yeah, if you look at, I haven't seen the, I saw one of those new BMW electric car, not BMW, excuse me, Mercedes electric cars in the wild.

00:20:14.000 EQS, I think it's called.

00:20:15.000 It's beautiful.

00:20:16.000 Really, you think so?

00:20:16.000 Yeah, I loved it.

00:20:18.000 I wasn't a huge fan of it.

00:20:19.000 Have you seen it in the wild?

00:20:20.000 I have seen it in the wild, yeah.

00:20:21.000 I enjoyed it.

00:20:22.000 I thought it was pretty, I saw it at a grocery store.

00:20:24.000 I was like, that thing looks sick.

00:20:25.000 It looks very futuristic.

00:20:27.000 Right.

00:20:28.000 But is that fast?

00:20:29.000 Like, how is that?

00:20:30.000 You know what, it's, I'll tell you right now, a car that I do like, that I drove maybe like two weeks ago, the Lucid.

00:20:37.000 Ah, I've heard of those.

00:20:38.000 I really like that car.

00:20:40.000 Yeah?

00:20:40.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of...

00:20:41.000 So this is the BMW, 3.4 seconds acceleration.

00:20:44.000 That's slow compared to everything else.

00:20:47.000 That's two seconds slower than, almost two seconds slower than a Tesla, but look how cool that looks.

00:20:53.000 I think it looks like a bug.

00:20:54.000 Oh, I love it.

00:20:55.000 Really?

00:20:55.000 I think it looks great.

00:20:56.000 Lightning reflexes.

00:20:58.000 But look at the range.

00:21:00.000 277 miles.

00:21:01.000 That's like my old X right now.

00:21:03.000 Yeah, it's whack.

00:21:04.000 The range is whack.

00:21:05.000 Acceleration is whack.

00:21:06.000 Is that the best they can do?

00:21:07.000 Is that the best one?

00:21:09.000 Yeah, that's the AMG version.

00:21:10.000 Oh, God.

00:21:11.000 Really?

00:21:12.000 Yeah.

00:21:12.000 There might be some extra...

00:21:14.000 I just don't understand.

00:21:15.000 So who's going to buy that?

00:21:17.000 Some old dude who loves Mercedes but also wants an electric car.

00:21:22.000 Yeah, Tesla Tech is too new and too forward.

00:21:24.000 I guess I'm going to get 270 miles of range.

00:21:26.000 That was like 10 years ago.

00:21:27.000 And if your batteries degrade on that thing, then you're looking at like...

00:21:31.000 You throw it away.

00:21:31.000 Yeah, it's like...

00:21:33.000 There was some talk at one point in time of you being able to go to a service station and they would within five minutes swap out your batteries.

00:21:41.000 That died so quickly.

00:21:41.000 Put in the new batteries that are fully charged.

00:21:44.000 That died so quickly.

00:21:45.000 What happened?

00:21:45.000 The logistics of it didn't make any sense.

00:21:48.000 When you pull up to a station, it's like, well, who owns this battery?

00:21:51.000 That battery they keep swapping could degrade as well.

00:21:54.000 It just didn't work.

00:21:55.000 It was a great presentation, though.

00:21:56.000 It was Elon Musk on stage comparing, filling up, I think it was an Audi sedan to the brim at a gas station versus his quick-changing station.

00:22:05.000 But logistically, it would just never work.

00:22:06.000 Like, if your car is not on the sensors properly, They couldn't adjust it to the car.

00:22:11.000 As they started making revisions to the cars, the hardware was in different places as well.

00:22:16.000 So unless you keep the design of that car the same over the next 10 years, it just wouldn't...

00:22:20.000 It would make sense then, but you're not going to do that.

00:22:22.000 Your cars are constantly changing and evolving.

00:22:24.000 Also, how many batteries are you going to need at one of those stations?

00:22:29.000 What if you have 100 cars come in in a day, and they want...

00:22:32.000 Like, 100 people coming in for gas is probably normal for a gas station.

00:22:36.000 Of 100 people coming in for new batteries...

00:22:38.000 Fuck.

00:22:38.000 Yeah, you'd have to wait in line.

00:22:40.000 And then where do those batteries come from?

00:22:42.000 Right.

00:22:42.000 Are those batteries charged in the meantime?

00:22:45.000 Right.

00:22:45.000 Or do you just get a new battery every time, and then that's a hundred batteries to different...

00:22:49.000 It just didn't make any sense.

00:22:50.000 Also, we have to come to grips with what is in the batteries.

00:22:54.000 Right.

00:22:54.000 Like, these are conflict minerals, and they come from the Congo.

00:22:58.000 They come from parts of the world that are in war.

00:23:01.000 Right.

00:23:03.000 It's not really that green.

00:23:05.000 Yeah, that's a big debate, man.

00:23:09.000 I can't speak on that because I don't really...

00:23:15.000 A lot of the news I get, unfortunately, comes from the Tesla fanboys beating the door down.

00:23:20.000 Like, no, it's fine.

00:23:22.000 It only uses a minute amount of lithium.

00:23:24.000 It's no big deal.

00:23:25.000 You just scrape it off the top of water.

00:23:27.000 It's really easy to get.

00:23:28.000 What?

00:23:28.000 Is that real?

00:23:29.000 Is that what they're saying?

00:23:30.000 Scrape it off the top of water?

00:23:31.000 It's really easy to mine.

00:23:32.000 I mean, all those big holes that they dig into the ground...

00:23:35.000 That's just, it's exaggerated.

00:23:37.000 That's what I've been told.

00:23:38.000 That's what I've been told.

00:23:38.000 But I don't drive a Tesla anymore, so it's fine.

00:23:40.000 But you don't drive this anymore?

00:23:42.000 Do you sell this?

00:23:42.000 The V8? No, the V8. Is that really a Tesla though?

00:23:45.000 I don't know how active this is, but there is a swap station network in China.

00:23:51.000 Really?

00:23:52.000 But I think it's only for this kind of...

00:23:53.000 That one specific car?

00:23:54.000 It must be a kind of car, yeah.

00:23:55.000 And they have their own network.

00:23:57.000 It says they do $30,000 a day.

00:23:59.000 Really?

00:24:00.000 Yeah.

00:24:00.000 Play that video.

00:24:01.000 You pay for a subscription.

00:24:03.000 You pay for a subscription.

00:24:04.000 Yeah, I was trying to find all the details.

00:24:05.000 At the bottom it says kind of the details.

00:24:07.000 Like what kind of vehicles do they...

00:24:09.000 So Tesla's...

00:24:09.000 They're making Teslas over there, right?

00:24:12.000 So it's battery swaps up to 200,000 kilowatt of rapid recharging per month.

00:24:18.000 If anything over this costs extra in Europe, NIO charges CO 20 kilowatts, which is...

00:24:25.000 So here's a question.

00:24:26.000 I think Tesla's route was...

00:24:29.000 Why do battery swaps when you could just upgrade the charging infrastructure?

00:24:32.000 When you're at a Tesla supercharger, those things charge, I think I saw the rate of a Model 3 I was in, like a thousand miles an hour.

00:24:40.000 So you're pumping all that juice into the battery.

00:24:43.000 Does it even make sense to do a battery swap financially?

00:24:45.000 Because Tesla has to have...

00:24:47.000 At least hundreds of batteries on hand just in case.

00:24:50.000 How long does it take to fully charge if you go to a supercharger station?

00:24:53.000 Fully charged like a Model 3?

00:24:54.000 Gosh, if no one's around, you could probably charge it in like an hour and change.

00:24:59.000 No joke.

00:24:59.000 Fully charged?

00:25:00.000 From dead to fully charged?

00:25:01.000 Fully charged, yeah.

00:25:01.000 I'd say maybe it tops an hour and a half.

00:25:03.000 That's pretty impressive.

00:25:04.000 I mean, as they get higher, obviously, as the battery capacity gets higher, the charge rate slows down because they can't pump as much Energy into it when the battery's almost full.

00:25:16.000 But those things charge lightning fast now.

00:25:20.000 I mean, you're not spending more than two hours at charging station unless there's like 50,000 other cars there.

00:25:24.000 If there's 50,000 other cars, it just like throttles?

00:25:27.000 The rate slows down because it has to distribute to everyone.

00:25:30.000 Oh, that's annoying.

00:25:31.000 Yeah, it could be annoying.

00:25:32.000 I didn't know that.

00:25:33.000 It could be annoying, yeah.

00:25:34.000 So it's like a lot of people using the Wi-Fi.

00:25:36.000 Correct.

00:25:36.000 It slows down.

00:25:37.000 Oh no.

00:25:39.000 Yeah, oh no is correct.

00:25:40.000 So what was the motivation to build this VA Tesla?

00:25:44.000 That's a good question.

00:25:45.000 So I... Let's see, pull up a video of Rich's YouTube channel.

00:25:51.000 Tesla got a...

00:25:54.000 As I was building, you know, different Teslas over the years, a lot of the, I guess the fanboys got to me after a while.

00:26:01.000 I mean, have you been around like Tesla fanatics, like ultra fanatics that are just like...

00:26:04.000 I try to avoid all fanatics.

00:26:06.000 Yes.

00:26:06.000 Gosh.

00:26:07.000 In every single area.

00:26:09.000 Every genre, yes.

00:26:11.000 It's just, they're too crazy.

00:26:13.000 It's a bit much.

00:26:15.000 So what started happening over time was Tesla kind of pulled the reins in on ordering parts for cars.

00:26:21.000 If I want to order like a battery or a motor, a battery, a motor, a charger, I can't do those things.

00:26:26.000 Like those are restricted parts.

00:26:27.000 You can't do that.

00:26:28.000 So what that tells me is that the product that I bought, the product I spent all this money on, I can't, I don't really own it.

00:26:35.000 Right.

00:26:36.000 Because they're in control of the parts for it.

00:26:37.000 Like an iPhone.

00:26:38.000 Correct.

00:26:39.000 Yes.

00:26:39.000 Exactly like iPhone.

00:26:40.000 So I said to myself, you know what?

00:26:42.000 That's a funny clip.

00:26:43.000 That's what actually ran out of gas there.

00:26:45.000 Go figure.

00:26:46.000 I ran out of gas.

00:26:46.000 And that's actually an electric Tesla bringing me gas.

00:26:50.000 That's a different story.

00:26:51.000 But what ended up happening was over time it got worse and worse.

00:26:56.000 Over time it's like, well, what's the VIN number to this car?

00:27:00.000 Oh, we don't believe in selling you these parts.

00:27:02.000 This isn't going to work.

00:27:03.000 That car is a salvage car.

00:27:04.000 You can't do it.

00:27:05.000 And I said to myself, you know what?

00:27:08.000 What can I do to this vehicle?

00:27:11.000 To make it so that I can get parts easy, and it's easy to service, and I have full control over it.

00:27:17.000 I said, you know what?

00:27:18.000 I'm a Chevy fanboy.

00:27:19.000 I'm going to throw an LS in there.

00:27:21.000 Throwing an LS in there, that allows me to get parts literally off the shelf from AutoZone.

00:27:26.000 Like for Tesla, if my Tesla brakes, let's just say you're in your plaid right now, right?

00:27:29.000 And you brake down to the side of the road, and the tow truck driver says, what do you want me to bring you?

00:27:32.000 You're going to say AutoZone or Advanced Auto Parts or Pep Boys?

00:27:35.000 No.

00:27:36.000 There isn't a single part sold for those cars there.

00:27:39.000 If I break down the V8 Tesla, you can pull me anywhere.

00:27:42.000 I could get pistons, rods, you name it, lifters, valves for that car, literally anywhere, and I have full control over it.

00:27:48.000 How did you make the V8 engine interface with the Tesla dashboard?

00:27:53.000 That's a great question.

00:27:55.000 So, all cars have what's known as an accessory mode, right?

00:28:00.000 The drive rails aren't on and the engine isn't on.

00:28:03.000 But the accessories are on.

00:28:04.000 You go into a car, the screen turns on, but the engine isn't on.

00:28:07.000 So Tesla effectively believes it's in accessory mode right now.

00:28:11.000 All the windows work.

00:28:12.000 The headlights work.

00:28:14.000 The turn signals work.

00:28:15.000 Everything works.

00:28:16.000 It's just that the last button to turn on the drive rails and actually start the car, that's no longer there.

00:28:21.000 And that's where the V8 engine takes over.

00:28:23.000 So imagine you have your, I don't know, you have your Porsche, right?

00:28:28.000 Your GT3. You get in that car, you sit in it right now, and you do everything but turn the engine over.

00:28:35.000 All the accessories work.

00:28:36.000 The lights work.

00:28:36.000 The radio works.

00:28:37.000 Everything works except for that last phase to turn the fuel pump on, set the spark plugs on to turn the engine over.

00:28:44.000 So the Tesla just thinks it's on and idle but not ready to drive.

00:28:49.000 Really?

00:28:50.000 Yeah.

00:28:50.000 And how did you rig that?

00:28:51.000 So basically any Tesla will do that.

00:28:54.000 You pull a Tesla out of a junkyard, you could get in it, sit in it, make sure it's getting power, and you could at least get to that step.

00:28:59.000 Now the way the V8 takes over is, V8s are probably the dumbest engine alive.

00:29:05.000 You give it a battery to start it over, and you give it fuel, it's going to run.

00:29:10.000 So there's a separate control system for the engine itself.

00:29:13.000 So we have a Haltech system That communicates with that.

00:29:16.000 So there's actually two separate systems that control the car.

00:29:19.000 And if one of those systems dies, the car will still function.

00:29:22.000 If the Tesla screen dies all of a sudden and Tesla says, you know what, I had enough of this, that V8 It'll still turn on and I can still go wherever I want.

00:29:29.000 You just won't have a speedometer and you won't have a fuel gauge.

00:29:31.000 Well, actually I will because the separate system, the Holotech system, controls the gas engine still.

00:29:37.000 So there's two independent systems that work separate of each other.

00:29:40.000 So the separate system, what kind of dashboard are you looking at?

00:29:44.000 Are you looking at the same dashboard that a regular Tesla has?

00:29:47.000 Same.

00:29:48.000 So that speedometer still works too because it goes by the wheel speed sensors.

00:29:51.000 That speedometer still works.

00:29:52.000 The navigation works.

00:29:54.000 The Bluetooth works.

00:29:55.000 The car works.

00:29:56.000 Really?

00:29:56.000 If you were to sit in that car right now, besides the six-speed shifter, you wouldn't be able to tell anything special about it.

00:30:03.000 So you have a six-speed manual in there?

00:30:05.000 Six-speed manual shift.

00:30:06.000 You see it right there in that video right there.

00:30:08.000 Back it up a little bit?

00:30:09.000 You call it Ice-T? Ice-T, yeah.

00:30:11.000 Eternal combustion engine T. I like it.

00:30:14.000 So there's a shift there right in the middle.

00:30:16.000 And it's a six-speed.

00:30:17.000 It's sequentially shifted.

00:30:18.000 You tap it forward and tap it back to go up and down.

00:30:20.000 Oh, okay.

00:30:21.000 That's it right there.

00:30:21.000 Like a race car.

00:30:22.000 That's it right there, yep.

00:30:23.000 What is that second gear to the left of it?

00:30:25.000 That's to engage reverse.

00:30:27.000 So you pull back to go in reverse.

00:30:29.000 Wow.

00:30:30.000 Yeah.

00:30:30.000 So that's the only way you could tell.

00:30:31.000 I mean, everything else works on the screen.

00:30:32.000 Like, the door indicator buttons work, the sunroof works.

00:30:35.000 Literally everything works in that car.

00:30:37.000 How hard was this to do?

00:30:39.000 It took a team of us.

00:30:41.000 We have Joshua, our fabricator.

00:30:44.000 We had to literally cut the car in half.

00:30:47.000 Really?

00:30:48.000 To form the transmission tunnel.

00:30:49.000 Because Teslas are one of the few cars which are great because they were designed as EVs only.

00:30:55.000 Right.

00:30:56.000 Some companies will take a gas car and then throw an electric drivetrain in it and call it a day.

00:31:00.000 Teslas were designed from the ground up to be electric vehicles.

00:31:02.000 Well, the Model S was.

00:31:03.000 So the floor is completely flat.

00:31:07.000 For rear-wheel drive cars, you have a drive shaft that goes from the front to the back.

00:31:11.000 Well, we couldn't put that there because the floor is flat.

00:31:13.000 We had to cut the car in half.

00:31:15.000 Install the engine and then build a transmission tunnel over that drive shaft from the front all the way back.

00:31:22.000 Also a transmission tunnel as well.

00:31:24.000 Whoa.

00:31:24.000 Because there's the transmission, you know, that sticks out like a couple feet.

00:31:26.000 So this is all fabricated?

00:31:27.000 All fabrication.

00:31:28.000 All fabricated.

00:31:29.000 I mean...

00:31:31.000 Countless hours have gone into that.

00:31:33.000 How long from the time you had this idea to the actual starting and driving?

00:31:38.000 About two years.

00:31:39.000 Wow.

00:31:39.000 That's such a crazy commitment.

00:31:41.000 You know how it is.

00:31:42.000 The planning stages are like, hmm, yeah, I'm going to do this.

00:31:45.000 Right.

00:31:45.000 Yeah, I'm going to do it.

00:31:46.000 I should do it.

00:31:47.000 How much is that?

00:31:47.000 Nah, I'm not going to do it.

00:31:48.000 I was contemplating for a while, and then I said, you know what?

00:31:51.000 I've got to commit to this.

00:31:52.000 Let's start doing this.

00:31:54.000 I hooked up with Joshua.

00:31:55.000 He's like, hey, listen.

00:31:56.000 He actually, fun fact...

00:31:58.000 So, he was watching one of the videos, and he's just like, hey, like, you know, if you need help with fabrication stuff, let me know.

00:32:05.000 He used to build, like, NASCARs.

00:32:07.000 Like, two chassis.

00:32:08.000 He says, I could do stuff.

00:32:09.000 Never seen his work before.

00:32:12.000 I took that V8 Tesla, dropped it off at his house, and I said, I trust you on this one.

00:32:18.000 And then that was it.

00:32:19.000 The rest was history.

00:32:19.000 So, we would go there, shoot video.

00:32:22.000 The first start video was there, and we just worked on it until the end, and then it's running and driving.

00:32:27.000 So when you cut it in half, do you have to do something to ensure the rigidity of the structure?

00:32:34.000 Yeah, there's bracing and reinforcements all over the car.

00:32:36.000 So is it much heavier than the original car?

00:32:38.000 It's about 1,200 pounds lighter than the original car.

00:32:41.000 Really?

00:32:42.000 Yes.

00:32:42.000 Because of the electric engine and the battery's missing?

00:32:44.000 If you think about it, the average battery weight of a Tesla is well over 1,000 pounds, 1,100 pounds in some cases.

00:32:50.000 That makes sense.

00:32:51.000 There was a rear motor, that rear motor subframe, that was like 350 pounds, 400 pounds.

00:32:57.000 Then there's a front motor as well.

00:32:59.000 So the front motor, after moving all that weight, putting an engine and a transmission, an LS is one of the lightest engines they make, with the drivetrain, That car went from 4,975 pounds to like 3,300 pounds.

00:33:15.000 The car weighs next to nothing now.

00:33:16.000 Wow.

00:33:17.000 Comparably speaking.

00:33:18.000 3,000 pounds for a sedan is really light.

00:33:21.000 It's very light.

00:33:21.000 And that has the full interior, the seats, it has everything in there.

00:33:24.000 That's like sports car light.

00:33:25.000 Yeah.

00:33:26.000 It's a light car.

00:33:27.000 You'd be amazed at how much you could remove a shuttle.

00:33:30.000 That's the tunnel right there.

00:33:31.000 That's all the bracing in the tunnel.

00:33:32.000 Oh, wow.

00:33:32.000 So we had to build that.

00:33:33.000 So that large, that was the first start, but that was really fun.

00:33:36.000 Yeah.

00:33:37.000 We had to build that tunnel, all the bracing in it, so it wouldn't fall apart.

00:33:42.000 So all that structural tubing going across it so the car doesn't pancake itself.

00:33:45.000 And that's the work.

00:33:46.000 Now, when you drive this thing, obviously it wasn't designed to have an engine in the front and a transmission tunnel and all that.

00:33:53.000 That was a fake yoke.

00:33:54.000 We were going to put a yoke in it as a joke.

00:33:56.000 We ended up not doing that because it's a waste of time.

00:33:57.000 I don't like the yoke.

00:33:59.000 No.

00:33:59.000 I don't like it as a steering choice.

00:34:01.000 It just sucks when you're trying to park and pull into places.

00:34:04.000 Right.

00:34:06.000 How much did it affect the way the car handles?

00:34:09.000 The car handles great.

00:34:10.000 We took it on a racetrack.

00:34:12.000 So eBay Motors actually, we're sponsored by them.

00:34:15.000 They brought us out to Sonoma Raceway and we were just doing drone outs and burn outs around their circle track.

00:34:21.000 The car, it feels, you know what it feels like?

00:34:23.000 It feels like a...

00:34:25.000 Almost like a...

00:34:26.000 What's a four-door muscle car?

00:34:28.000 A modern muscle car?

00:34:30.000 Charger?

00:34:31.000 Yeah.

00:34:31.000 Cadillac CTS. Oh, yeah, Cadillac.

00:34:34.000 It's more like a Cadillac CTS-V. Wow.

00:34:36.000 And it's just...

00:34:37.000 It's light.

00:34:38.000 It's fun.

00:34:38.000 It'll do a burnout.

00:34:39.000 I think I was going like 30 miles an hour, stomped on it, rolling burnout until like almost 100. The thing is ridiculously fun.

00:34:46.000 Really?

00:34:46.000 Yeah.

00:34:46.000 It's a really fun car.

00:34:47.000 But that's the thing.

00:34:48.000 The biggest debate was...

00:34:51.000 Rich, why are you doing this?

00:34:52.000 Because the finished product is slower than a normal Tesla, right?

00:34:57.000 I'm like, that's fair enough.

00:34:59.000 Zero to 60 is not as fast.

00:35:00.000 It's rear-wheel drive only now.

00:35:01.000 It'll spin the tires until 100, no problem.

00:35:05.000 There's no autopilot.

00:35:06.000 That doesn't work anymore.

00:35:07.000 But I'll tell you right now, I took that car to a show.

00:35:12.000 Parked it next to a Plaid.

00:35:14.000 The fastest and most amazing car built right now.

00:35:18.000 People didn't even know it was a Plaid next to me.

00:35:20.000 People went crazy over that car.

00:35:23.000 And that's why it was built.

00:35:24.000 Because of the novelty.

00:35:25.000 Because of the novelty.

00:35:27.000 Listen, that's probably the only one that's going to get built.

00:35:31.000 There's no sense in making a second one because, let's be real, the car was expensive to make and it isn't as fast as a regular Tesla.

00:35:37.000 It's just to show what you can do when you put your mind to it.

00:35:40.000 And I'll tell you, man, I've had offers to buy that car for ridiculous amounts of money just because of what it is.

00:35:45.000 You can work on it.

00:35:46.000 You can modify it yourself.

00:35:48.000 And it's the spirit of car enthusiasm.

00:35:50.000 Are you going to sell it?

00:35:51.000 Never.

00:35:52.000 Never?

00:35:52.000 Never.

00:35:53.000 You said never.

00:35:54.000 I have a big problem, Joe.

00:35:55.000 I keep...

00:35:56.000 Every car I build, I keep.

00:35:59.000 Every car that represents a memory for me, whether it's friends coming together for a common cause, building something, having all those memories, I never sell them.

00:36:08.000 Really?

00:36:09.000 Yeah.

00:36:10.000 So the V8 Tesla is one of them because I could see myself already.

00:36:13.000 That car has made so many memories as friends.

00:36:17.000 If I sell that car and I see some knucklehead driving it down the street, I'll be like, that's my car.

00:36:23.000 I want that.

00:36:24.000 Why are you having fun in that?

00:36:25.000 Especially the amount of time involved in thinking.

00:36:29.000 That one I get.

00:36:30.000 The engineering behind it, because what's it worth to someone?

00:36:34.000 $100?

00:36:34.000 $150?

00:36:36.000 $200?

00:36:37.000 No one's going to pay $200 for it.

00:36:38.000 Let's just say $150 for that car.

00:36:41.000 That's cool, but now what?

00:36:44.000 I don't have my car back.

00:36:46.000 Right, and now you're going to make something else anyway.

00:36:48.000 Right, true.

00:36:49.000 The LS, what is the stock LS out of the box?

00:36:53.000 Stock LS, I think about 425 or something like that.

00:36:57.000 With a 3,000 pound car, that's probably great.

00:36:59.000 It's really fun.

00:37:00.000 I think we did a long tube headers, a few other modifications to it.

00:37:02.000 I think it's about like 470 or so right now.

00:37:04.000 And then we're actually putting a supercharger on it in another few months.

00:37:08.000 That's going back to SEMA. But yeah, that's the thing.

00:37:10.000 That's why I enjoy about it.

00:37:12.000 You're a Plaid right now, right?

00:37:13.000 Let's just say you get bored of the power, right?

00:37:17.000 But what do you do to it?

00:37:18.000 As a car enthusiast, your Porsche or GT3 RS, you could do a million different things to it.

00:37:23.000 It's short works.

00:37:24.000 It's been modified already.

00:37:25.000 Your old muscle cars, you could improve the handling, the braking, the power, whatever you want.

00:37:30.000 If you're in a regular Tesla, As an enthusiast, I actually got very bored of mine because the way you get it is the way it's going to stay unless you buy a plaid or you get on your knees and beg Elon to release a software update to give you 30 more horsepower.

00:37:44.000 Well, there's a company called Unplugged.

00:37:46.000 Do you know about them?

00:37:47.000 Of course, Unplugged Performance.

00:37:48.000 Ben, I know them very well.

00:37:48.000 Yeah, so they will take a Tesla and they will jazz it up and put wider tires and fender flares and a rear spoiler and they get crazy.

00:37:57.000 Which is cool, but I want more power.

00:38:00.000 Right.

00:38:01.000 When I step my foot down, I want my eyes to go in the back of my head.

00:38:05.000 Right.

00:38:05.000 And in the regular Tesla, you could add a little suspension stuff you want to feel great around corners, but I want that power.

00:38:11.000 I want one with a stoplight.

00:38:12.000 I see every one in my rear of your mirror.

00:38:14.000 So with the V8 Tesla, granted, no.

00:38:16.000 It's nothing crazy now.

00:38:17.000 It's fun to drive.

00:38:18.000 But you know what the power of a fully built LS engine is.

00:38:22.000 There's no limit.

00:38:24.000 There's no limit.

00:38:24.000 Yeah, you can keep going.

00:38:25.000 You can keep going.

00:38:26.000 You can get, you know, the Plaid makes about, I think, you're probably putting out maybe 1,100 horsepower now on your Plaid, I think.

00:38:31.000 Yeah.

00:38:31.000 Or 1,200 or something like that.

00:38:32.000 Something like that, which is hilarious.

00:38:33.000 Which is insane.

00:38:34.000 The VA Tesla, you could, granted, you're only putting the power to the rear wheels, but you could have 1,500, 2,000, you name it.

00:38:41.000 Really?

00:38:42.000 LS engine, yeah, it's infinite power.

00:38:43.000 3,000 horsepower if you want.

00:38:44.000 What?

00:38:45.000 Yeah.

00:38:45.000 What do you have to do to do that?

00:38:47.000 You have to redesign the whole engine.

00:38:49.000 Jesus.

00:38:49.000 You have to build the whole thing, but yeah.

00:38:50.000 You can get 3,000 horsepower out of an LS engine?

00:38:53.000 Out of a V8 engine?

00:38:54.000 Of course you can, yeah.

00:38:55.000 Oh my god.

00:38:55.000 I had no idea.

00:38:57.000 Forge block, yeah.

00:38:57.000 You have to do literally everything, but yeah.

00:38:59.000 It's probably going to blow up in your face.

00:39:01.000 Absolutely.

00:39:02.000 It's a ticking time bomb, but it's fun until it blows up.

00:39:04.000 But that's a sort of car modification.

00:39:06.000 You drive it, you blow it up, you rebuild it, and then you do it all over again.

00:39:10.000 Like, how many people have done those to Supras?

00:39:12.000 Oh, God.

00:39:13.000 Like, those old 90s-style Supras?

00:39:16.000 There's an infinite amount of Supra owners that have been doing that.

00:39:17.000 I saw one sold.

00:39:19.000 It was in my news feed yesterday.

00:39:21.000 I think it sold for a quarter million dollars.

00:39:24.000 Really?

00:39:24.000 Yeah.

00:39:25.000 A 94, 95 Supra.

00:39:27.000 I'm like, what?

00:39:28.000 You know what's a bitch, Joe?

00:39:30.000 Nostalgia's a bitch.

00:39:31.000 Yeah.

00:39:31.000 I, um, I... I recently purchased a couple of cars that I've always wanted when I was a kid.

00:39:37.000 I've always wanted a Skyline, you know, the right-hand drive Skylines.

00:39:40.000 You got one of those?

00:39:41.000 I got one of those.

00:39:42.000 And I've always wanted an Evo.

00:39:45.000 You know, the Mitsubishi Evo, Lance Revolution 8s?

00:39:47.000 Always wanted one of those.

00:39:48.000 I bought those cars, Joe.

00:39:51.000 And the reason why Nostalgia's a bitch is because they're slow as hell.

00:39:56.000 From a modern standpoint, if you drive any modern car now, now that you have a Plaid, everything else...

00:40:03.000 Everything's slow.

00:40:04.000 It's a novelty.

00:40:05.000 Yeah.

00:40:05.000 So, like, I don't have a Plaid, but I have 911. Like, the Evo, there's no Bluetooth.

00:40:10.000 There's no leather seats.

00:40:11.000 The car rattles.

00:40:13.000 It squeaks.

00:40:14.000 The paint is terrible.

00:40:15.000 It handles like a go-kart, and it's awesome.

00:40:17.000 But at the end of the day, it's a novelty.

00:40:19.000 Yeah.

00:40:20.000 So everything else that you drive...

00:40:22.000 I mean, that car is 20 years old.

00:40:24.000 The Skyline is...

00:40:26.000 30 years old.

00:40:27.000 And those cars, you get in them, there's no modern safety.

00:40:32.000 They're not very fast.

00:40:34.000 The shifter is notchy.

00:40:35.000 They're economy cars in Japan.

00:40:36.000 But here, they're really cool.

00:40:38.000 I've driven them a total of maybe seven miles.

00:40:41.000 And I'm like, I think I'm done here.

00:40:42.000 I'm going back to the Porsche.

00:40:43.000 Thank you.

00:40:44.000 So that's the tough part.

00:40:45.000 So you just have it and you're just going to hang on to it for a while?

00:40:47.000 I'll probably get rid of the Skyline first.

00:40:49.000 Because when I was a kid, I've always wanted an Evo.

00:40:52.000 So I think I'll fix that, build it up, make it really nice.

00:40:54.000 But the Skyline's going to go for sure.

00:40:56.000 Is it weird to drive with the right-hand side?

00:40:58.000 Very weird.

00:40:58.000 It is.

00:41:00.000 So you can't shift fast because my left hand is still learning how to do that.

00:41:05.000 But it's just very challenging to get used to that.

00:41:11.000 I drove it for a while.

00:41:12.000 I'm like...

00:41:13.000 Why am I driving this left-hand drive, not very fast, accelerating vehicle?

00:41:18.000 In order to make it fast, I'd have to spend 10, 20, 30 thousand dollars.

00:41:23.000 At the end of the day, I just spent 50 grand and what do I have?

00:41:27.000 A car that's still slower than its nearest competitor.

00:41:30.000 Modern competitor.

00:41:31.000 Yeah.

00:41:32.000 The thrill of driving though, it's like disproportionate sometimes to the actual speed you go.

00:41:38.000 Like if you drive like an old Porsche, like a 1970 911, they're not fast.

00:41:44.000 No.

00:41:45.000 But it feels quick.

00:41:48.000 Yes.

00:41:48.000 Like there's something to the feel of it.

00:41:50.000 It's like...

00:41:52.000 You're very connected with the road.

00:41:54.000 You don't have to drive a fast car.

00:41:57.000 Driving a slow car fast is an unbelievably rewarding experience.

00:42:03.000 I drove one of my friend's cars, Sam.

00:42:06.000 He has a Dahatsu Mira.

00:42:08.000 And it's a right-hand drive car, all-wheel drive, turbo, and the car's about this big, right?

00:42:15.000 I don't even know what it is.

00:42:16.000 Yeah, I didn't either until I saw it.

00:42:17.000 Daihatsu?

00:42:18.000 Daihatsu Mira, yeah.

00:42:19.000 Who makes that?

00:42:20.000 Daihatsu.

00:42:21.000 What do they make besides that one car?

00:42:24.000 Refrigerators.

00:42:24.000 I have no idea what they make, right?

00:42:26.000 So I drove that, and...

00:42:29.000 We were driving it.

00:42:30.000 I was rolling through the gears.

00:42:32.000 It's all-wheel drive turbo.

00:42:33.000 It's fun.

00:42:34.000 There we go.

00:42:34.000 That's what it is.

00:42:35.000 The Hatsu Mira.

00:42:35.000 Oh my god, that thing's disgusting.

00:42:37.000 It really is.

00:42:37.000 What is that?

00:42:38.000 I have no idea what that is.

00:42:39.000 Jet engine?

00:42:40.000 Yeah.

00:42:41.000 It definitely needs it.

00:42:42.000 So look at the black one on top right there.

00:42:45.000 It looks just like that.

00:42:46.000 You got one of those?

00:42:48.000 So I drove it, and I'm like...

00:42:51.000 I was going through the gears, Joe.

00:42:53.000 I'm kidding you not.

00:42:54.000 Red line.

00:42:55.000 Look down.

00:42:56.000 I'm going like 48 miles an hour.

00:42:59.000 So that's what it is.

00:43:00.000 It's driving a slow car fast with that same experience.

00:43:04.000 It's pretty fun.

00:43:06.000 And then that car being...

00:43:07.000 Thank God I didn't get that one.

00:43:08.000 But it being right-hand drive...

00:43:12.000 It's funny because the car is so small, it doesn't matter what side you're on.

00:43:15.000 The car is so narrow.

00:43:17.000 It's so tiny.

00:43:18.000 It doesn't matter at all.

00:43:18.000 What are the regulations for driving a right-hand drive car?

00:43:22.000 Is it just you just register it and drive it?

00:43:24.000 It's fine?

00:43:25.000 You normally register and drive it.

00:43:26.000 However, a lot of states are trying to crack down on this thing called a key truck.

00:43:30.000 A key truck is very similar to what I sent you.

00:43:32.000 It's just a pickup truck version of it.

00:43:35.000 And a lot of states are cracking down because they're not safe.

00:43:39.000 There's just been flood of Japanese cars being imported because they're great on gas and they're normally pretty clean.

00:43:45.000 And in the U.S. right now, if you wanted to get a small pickup truck, you have to buy, what, like a Ford Maverick or something like that, which will cost you, you know, $30,000 at the end of the day.

00:43:56.000 A lot of people have been importing these little mini key cars from Japan.

00:44:00.000 These really small trucks that are great.

00:44:02.000 I mean, they have huge beds.

00:44:03.000 You could fit all kinds of stuff and then go into Home Depot and get some lumber.

00:44:06.000 But a lot of states are starting to crack down on them because...

00:44:09.000 Oh, there we go.

00:44:09.000 Auto XAM. Those are sick.

00:44:10.000 Is it a key car?

00:44:11.000 Yes.

00:44:12.000 That's a key car.

00:44:14.000 AZ1. Those are awesome cars.

00:44:16.000 So what is...

00:44:17.000 It's a pickup truck.

00:44:18.000 A key truck.

00:44:19.000 That's a key car?

00:44:21.000 Yeah, a key car.

00:44:21.000 It's the designation.

00:44:23.000 Type in key truck.

00:44:24.000 K-E-I truck.

00:44:25.000 How is that a pickup truck?

00:44:27.000 Oh no, you'll see.

00:44:27.000 If you type in KEI truck, you'll see it.

00:44:30.000 Okay, but that's just a KEI car.

00:44:33.000 Yes.

00:44:33.000 There we go.

00:44:34.000 Those are the trucks.

00:44:36.000 Okay, so it has like a little flatbed.

00:44:38.000 It has a little flatbed.

00:44:39.000 The sides fold down.

00:44:40.000 That thing's ridiculous.

00:44:41.000 They have incredible utility, but a lot of states are cracking down on them because it's one of the most dangerous things you could put on the road.

00:44:47.000 Why?

00:44:48.000 If you get into a car accident with that, there's no safe, there's no airbags, there's no crumples.

00:44:52.000 Your knees are the crumple zone in those cars.

00:44:54.000 Oh, I see.

00:44:55.000 So you could have a little garden back there, see?

00:44:59.000 Drift.

00:45:00.000 But they are fun.

00:45:02.000 Some places are saying these are so dangerous that we don't want them on the road anymore.

00:45:06.000 When it comes to nostalgia, for me, there's one car that I've been thinking about a lot lately.

00:45:10.000 It's the NSX. Oh my gosh.

00:45:12.000 I had two NSXs.

00:45:14.000 You have?

00:45:14.000 I used to.

00:45:16.000 I don't have any anymore.

00:45:17.000 I had one in the 90s with the flip-up headlights, and I had another one in 2005. With the static ones.

00:45:24.000 Yes.

00:45:24.000 Those are nice cars, man.

00:45:26.000 It wasn't fast, but I put a CompTech supercharger on it and it got it into like the 400 horsepower range.

00:45:33.000 How was it?

00:45:33.000 It was great.

00:45:34.000 It was fun.

00:45:35.000 But it was just there's something about the cockpit and the feel of that car.

00:45:41.000 I want that.

00:45:41.000 I want the new.

00:45:42.000 You like the new one?

00:45:43.000 I like the new one.

00:45:44.000 They're not making them anymore.

00:45:45.000 And the prices shot up.

00:45:47.000 They're making the S. The S is the latest and greatest and it's supposed to be pretty fucking incredible.

00:45:52.000 How come you didn't get a second generation NSX? Because it's automatic.

00:45:56.000 What I liked about the first generation NSX was that it was a super lightweight mid-engine car with a manual gearbox and it just felt like a little race car.

00:46:06.000 Right.

00:46:06.000 And when I sat in the cockpit, I was like, this is perfect.

00:46:10.000 A fighter jet, yeah.

00:46:11.000 It's good.

00:46:11.000 And it's like this, you have this very small gauge cluster, the shifter's right there, everything's ergonomic, the seats feel really good, and it was just a joy to drive, man.

00:46:22.000 It's a tiny-ass car, too.

00:46:24.000 Seeing an NSX next to any modern sports car, everything else looks like pregnant and bloated.

00:46:30.000 It's tiny, and it handles really well, and it's a fucking Honda.

00:46:34.000 So it's bulletproof.

00:46:35.000 Why'd you get rid of it, Joe?

00:46:36.000 Why'd you get rid of two Hondas?

00:46:38.000 I don't know.

00:46:39.000 Buy another one.

00:46:39.000 It's young and dumb.

00:46:40.000 They're only a hundred grand now, so yeah, go for it.

00:46:42.000 Is that crazy?

00:46:43.000 They're so expensive.

00:46:44.000 They're more than they cost if you bought one new then.

00:46:47.000 Correct, yes.

00:46:48.000 But it's because they're good.

00:46:49.000 It's not like a Corvette from that era is not a hundred grand.

00:46:52.000 No, it's not.

00:46:53.000 It's like $17.

00:46:54.000 Oh, that looks sick.

00:46:55.000 Is that an old one?

00:46:56.000 Yeah, that's a 97. That's an older one.

00:46:58.000 It says 2017. That's not true.

00:46:59.000 Yeah, no.

00:47:00.000 That's definitely not correct.

00:47:01.000 It looks like an old one.

00:47:02.000 Yeah.

00:47:02.000 But that looks modern today.

00:47:04.000 Yeah.

00:47:05.000 Oh, it's great.

00:47:06.000 That's an older one, Jamie, because the headlights lift up.

00:47:09.000 The pop-up, yeah.

00:47:10.000 So that's pre, what was it, like 2002 or something like that?

00:47:13.000 They haven't made it.

00:47:14.000 I think they stopped.

00:47:15.000 You know what the last pop-up headlight car was?

00:47:17.000 I think it was a Corvette C5. One of the last pop-up headlight cars there was.

00:47:23.000 Yeah, that's the new one.

00:47:24.000 There we go.

00:47:24.000 Go back to that other page that we were just on and click on the one below.

00:47:29.000 It says 94 NSX. Yeah, that's a 94. There we go.

00:47:36.000 So that's like, what year did it come out?

00:47:38.000 92 or something?

00:47:40.000 I remember the first one I saw.

00:47:41.000 I was in Boston.

00:47:42.000 I saw a red one drive by with a black roof like that.

00:47:45.000 You're like, what the hell is that, right?

00:47:46.000 They're beautiful.

00:47:48.000 It looked amazing.

00:47:49.000 It was like a Ferrari for people who are smart.

00:47:52.000 Like Ferrari for someone who wanted to actually be able to drive it and not have it break down.

00:47:56.000 And here's the scary part, right?

00:47:58.000 So going back to enthusiasm about driving a car, A V6 Accord today, you better watch the hell out.

00:48:06.000 Yeah, it's gonna bury me.

00:48:06.000 It's gonna bury you.

00:48:08.000 Toast me.

00:48:08.000 But it's just saying that there's a lot more to a car than just zero to 60 and how fast it is, and that's how I feel when I drive.

00:48:14.000 The problem is they look fast.

00:48:17.000 It's like the i8.

00:48:18.000 Yeah.

00:48:18.000 It's i8 all over again.

00:48:19.000 Yeah, and those have pretty skinny tires too, the old NSXs.

00:48:22.000 But you could modify them and just to the moon.

00:48:24.000 The i8 could...

00:48:25.000 The Honda...

00:48:27.000 The engine in the NSX, there's infinite potential because it's a Honda engine.

00:48:31.000 You could do whatever you want to that.

00:48:33.000 The BMW i8 has a three-cylinder Mini Cooper engine.

00:48:37.000 You're not getting very far with that.

00:48:38.000 Really?

00:48:39.000 Yeah, and an electric motor in the front that you can't crack either.

00:48:42.000 So you're not getting far with those things.

00:48:43.000 What's your overall horsepower in the i8?

00:48:46.000 I think 360 or something like that.

00:48:49.000 Exactly.

00:48:50.000 Well, the NSX, I think, was like 270. Yeah.

00:48:53.000 So, I mean, I give an old NSX a run for its money.

00:48:56.000 You might kill it.

00:48:57.000 But anything other than that, it's like, I'm going to probably back off from that.

00:49:00.000 But when I had the supercharger on mine, it made it a lot better.

00:49:03.000 Right.

00:49:04.000 But at the end of the day, I didn't want to go wide body.

00:49:07.000 Like, there's a lot of, Google wide body NSX conversion.

00:49:12.000 They look sick, though.

00:49:13.000 They look sick.

00:49:14.000 But it's a little boy racer-ish, though.

00:49:16.000 I mean, you had that NSX how many years ago?

00:49:20.000 2005 is when I had it.

00:49:21.000 Yeah, that wouldn't fit your look.

00:49:23.000 You'd be like, who the hell is this guy?

00:49:24.000 Is that Joe Rogan?

00:49:27.000 It's just a little too, yeah.

00:49:29.000 Oh, that looks kind of sick, though.

00:49:31.000 That looks pretty badass.

00:49:32.000 Look at that one.

00:49:33.000 Oh, my God.

00:49:34.000 That's pretty fucking dope.

00:49:35.000 I can't see you in that at all.

00:49:39.000 I mean, to being nice, I could see someone in a different, maybe, nationality riding lots.

00:49:44.000 Maybe not you, per se, but yeah.

00:49:46.000 Maybe someone from another country?

00:49:48.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:49:48.000 From Asia, perhaps?

00:49:50.000 That red one, look at that one.

00:49:52.000 That looks sick.

00:49:52.000 But where are you going in that?

00:49:54.000 Where are you going?

00:49:56.000 That looks like a goddamn race car.

00:49:57.000 I mean, that's full on.

00:49:59.000 Look what he's done with the rear taillights and everything.

00:50:01.000 That's barely an NSX. No.

00:50:03.000 I'd still rock it, though, but I wouldn't go very far.

00:50:06.000 I'd be like, hey guys, I'll go to the grocery store, maybe get some cans of soup and come back.

00:50:09.000 Yeah, it's like, at the end of the day, what are you doing?

00:50:14.000 Like, I see that you're, like, the original car, you kind of have to accept the dimensions.

00:50:20.000 I like that.

00:50:21.000 That's subtle.

00:50:22.000 Minus the logos on it?

00:50:24.000 Yes.

00:50:24.000 Yeah, I would rock that.

00:50:26.000 Yeah, the rear tail is a little much, the rear wing, but that's not bad.

00:50:31.000 Right.

00:50:31.000 That's not bad right there.

00:50:33.000 Yeah.

00:50:34.000 NSXR prototype.

00:50:36.000 That is a video game.

00:50:37.000 That's how real the video games are getting now, Joe.

00:50:40.000 Oh my god, believe me, I've seen.

00:50:42.000 I got duped.

00:50:43.000 I watched this Formula One race car launch itself through the air and then make a corner.

00:50:47.000 I was like, is this possible?

00:50:48.000 And my friend was like, that's a fucking video game, you idiot.

00:50:51.000 It's a game, Joe.

00:50:51.000 Relax.

00:50:51.000 I didn't know.

00:50:52.000 Oh, no way.

00:50:53.000 You play games at all?

00:50:55.000 No.

00:50:56.000 No, I can't.

00:50:57.000 I'm one of those people.

00:50:58.000 I get addicted.

00:50:59.000 I used to be addicted to first-person shooters.

00:51:02.000 Really?

00:51:02.000 Yeah, Call of Duty and stuff like that?

00:51:04.000 We used to have a whole LAN set up at our old studio.

00:51:09.000 And it was a real problem.

00:51:10.000 Really?

00:51:11.000 Yeah, we'd get in there and we'd play Quake.

00:51:13.000 It was a real problem.

00:51:14.000 We'd play for hours and hours and I'd leave there nervous and hands would be shaking.

00:51:18.000 You want to shoot someone?

00:51:19.000 But I was like, no, it's like the adrenaline from playing the game.

00:51:22.000 And then if you got your ass kicked, you felt so bad.

00:51:24.000 Like, why do I feel terrible?

00:51:26.000 Right.

00:51:26.000 From this stupid ass game.

00:51:28.000 Yeah, right.

00:51:29.000 And this is what kids are doing all day when they're playing like Modern Warfare and all these crazy games.

00:51:34.000 I know.

00:51:36.000 Do you think, now it's going to get weird, ready for this?

00:51:39.000 Okay.

00:51:39.000 Do you think there's any association with kids playing those violent games and school shootings?

00:51:45.000 I would say that there has to be some sort of an association with some people with acting out fantasies in a video game and then wanting to do them in real life.

00:51:58.000 Gotcha.

00:51:59.000 For some people.

00:52:00.000 But I think you would have to be so troubled.

00:52:04.000 I don't think a video game can turn you into a murderer.

00:52:07.000 Absolutely not.

00:52:09.000 But I think a video game combined with all kinds of crazy trauma, fucked up life, psych medications, person who's like legitimately mentally ill, perhaps it would encourage you.

00:52:24.000 It's a combination of all those things.

00:52:25.000 Yeah, but the question is like, should we limit video games because some people are disturbed?

00:52:30.000 No, absolutely not.

00:52:31.000 I don't think so.

00:52:32.000 No, that's a big debate whenever that happens.

00:52:34.000 It's the video games.

00:52:35.000 It's the guns.

00:52:36.000 Yeah, but it's not.

00:52:36.000 Because if you and I sat down and we played video games together and shot each other, we wouldn't think about shooting each other.

00:52:41.000 No, it would not.

00:52:42.000 It's just fun.

00:52:43.000 For most people, it's just fun.

00:52:45.000 It's just a fun game.

00:52:46.000 Yeah, like a car for most people is fun.

00:52:49.000 But for some people, they would want to drive into a crowd of people because they're fucking crazy.

00:52:53.000 Exactly.

00:52:54.000 Yeah.

00:52:54.000 So you have that.

00:52:55.000 You have a person that's...

00:52:56.000 Mentally and emotionally unstable.

00:52:58.000 Who's dingy?

00:52:59.000 Is that me?

00:52:59.000 I don't think it's me.

00:53:00.000 That's super embarrassing.

00:53:02.000 I don't have any friends.

00:53:04.000 Anyways, so...

00:53:06.000 So yeah, I think it's...

00:53:07.000 A lot of people, there's always a debate.

00:53:09.000 Every time some big event happens, it's like, was it the person?

00:53:12.000 Even when it comes to even taking it back to autopilot, all those autopilot crashes.

00:53:17.000 I don't believe in autopilot.

00:53:19.000 You ever use it before?

00:53:20.000 No, really?

00:53:21.000 I mean, I'll use it occasionally to show off.

00:53:23.000 Like, watch this.

00:53:25.000 That's cool, huh?

00:53:25.000 Okay, shut it off.

00:53:26.000 You don't believe in Elon Musk?

00:53:28.000 I do believe in Elon.

00:53:30.000 I just don't believe in driving around with autopilot.

00:53:32.000 I like to drive.

00:53:33.000 Yeah, I feel the same exact way.

00:53:35.000 I think there's been a lot of debate about what happens during autopilot.

00:53:39.000 Whose fault is it?

00:53:40.000 Right.

00:53:41.000 Is it the operator's fault or is it the car's fault?

00:53:44.000 And one of the issues that people have been struggling with is when there's an autopilot failure, when the car does something erratic or it crashes and then someone loses their life, who analyzes that data?

00:53:57.000 And how they analyze the data.

00:53:59.000 Does Tesla necessarily give that over to the NHTSA or do they analyze it themselves and say, okay, it's fine?

00:54:05.000 That's been a big trouble spot because all their data is encrypted.

00:54:08.000 They have it under lock and key.

00:54:11.000 Who does the accident scene reconstruction for things like that?

00:54:17.000 What are the, like, decisions that have to be made?

00:54:19.000 Like, what if someone is walking right in front of you and to the left is an oncoming vehicle?

00:54:25.000 Right.

00:54:25.000 So you could either swerve into the oncoming vehicle or hit the person.

00:54:29.000 What does the computer do?

00:54:33.000 Advanced yet where it determines whose life to take.

00:54:36.000 Right.

00:54:37.000 I think that's a big debate though.

00:54:39.000 What do you do?

00:54:40.000 Right.

00:54:40.000 It's like if there's two people crossing the street and you could hit one versus the other, one of them's an old lady, do you hit her or do you hit the young person?

00:54:48.000 Like how do you make that decision?

00:54:49.000 Do you cripple the young person or take the old lady out?

00:54:51.000 Right.

00:54:51.000 I know who I... Who would you hit, Joe?

00:54:53.000 The old lady.

00:54:53.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:54:54.000 I'd run right in there.

00:54:56.000 Depends.

00:54:56.000 Depends on who's at fault.

00:54:58.000 You know?

00:54:59.000 It's probably the old lady, because she's old.

00:55:01.000 Could be.

00:55:02.000 Could be.

00:55:03.000 She's probably an old senile, looking for her meds, and then she's running the street.

00:55:05.000 Like, she shouldn't have been there.

00:55:06.000 God, this has got to be a horrible feeling to hit somebody with a fucking car.

00:55:10.000 I know.

00:55:10.000 A friend of mine got hit by a car and she was like, it was like two years ago.

00:55:14.000 She's still fucked up.

00:55:15.000 Really?

00:55:15.000 She had a bunch of brain surgeries and shit.

00:55:17.000 Oh, she got hit by one.

00:55:18.000 Oh, yeah.

00:55:18.000 She got hit by a car while she was jogging.

00:55:20.000 Jesus Christ, man.

00:55:21.000 That sounds terrifying, man.

00:55:22.000 She was running in LA. Someone wasn't paying attention.

00:55:25.000 Just boom!

00:55:26.000 How fast she got, you know?

00:55:28.000 I know it doesn't matter.

00:55:29.000 I don't know why I want to know.

00:55:30.000 I don't think she has any idea.

00:55:32.000 Did the person stop?

00:55:33.000 Yeah, they stopped.

00:55:35.000 People saw it.

00:55:36.000 But she got fucking wrecked.

00:55:39.000 She got flown through the air and landed on her head, like the whole deal.

00:55:42.000 Oh shit, man.

00:55:43.000 Yeah.

00:55:44.000 That's worrisome, man.

00:55:44.000 That always kind of scares me.

00:55:46.000 Well, jogging with earphones on in L.A. is crazy.

00:55:51.000 Really?

00:55:51.000 It's crazy.

00:55:52.000 Why would you do that?

00:55:52.000 Is that why you left?

00:55:53.000 That's why.

00:55:54.000 That's why you left?

00:55:55.000 Jogging with earphones on.

00:55:55.000 I couldn't jog with it.

00:55:56.000 God damn it.

00:55:57.000 I was like, I need to go to a place where I could jog and be isolated from sound.

00:56:02.000 How do you like Texas?

00:56:03.000 You've been here for two years now.

00:56:04.000 Yeah, I love it.

00:56:05.000 Really?

00:56:05.000 I love it.

00:56:06.000 The people are so friendly.

00:56:08.000 Dude, awesome.

00:56:09.000 That's like one of the best parts about it.

00:56:10.000 It's crazy here.

00:56:11.000 The second I got here, Thank you.

00:56:14.000 There's a lot of young, very good-looking professionals here.

00:56:17.000 Like, a lot.

00:56:18.000 Like, it's a pretty hip and modern...

00:56:20.000 I do like it here.

00:56:22.000 It's a hip city.

00:56:22.000 It's very nice.

00:56:23.000 It's a hip city.

00:56:23.000 It's a nice combination of progressive and surrounded by Republicans.

00:56:28.000 Yes.

00:56:28.000 It's a weird sort of vibe.

00:56:30.000 It's like a get-along-with-everybody vibe.

00:56:32.000 Like, we're okay, right?

00:56:33.000 We're okay, right?

00:56:34.000 Yeah.

00:56:35.000 And it's just...

00:56:36.000 The food here is fantastic.

00:56:39.000 It's very good.

00:56:40.000 It's got an amazing comedy scene.

00:56:42.000 The comedy scene's incredible.

00:56:43.000 Is it because of you?

00:56:44.000 I had something to do with it.

00:56:46.000 Yeah.

00:56:46.000 Building up that scene.

00:56:47.000 I get it, man.

00:56:47.000 It's not bad.

00:56:47.000 We're working on it.

00:56:48.000 I respect it, man.

00:56:49.000 I respect it.

00:56:49.000 Yeah, I bought a club out here.

00:56:50.000 Did you really?

00:56:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:52.000 Awesome, dude.

00:56:52.000 We're in the middle of construction right now.

00:56:53.000 You know, Joe, we had a conversation a while back where you thought that I should potentially do comedy.

00:56:58.000 Is that still a thing?

00:57:00.000 You could do it.

00:57:00.000 Maybe I'll go to your show.

00:57:02.000 I think any smart person who's funny can do comedy.

00:57:05.000 Really?

00:57:05.000 So you definitely could do comedy.

00:57:07.000 It's a matter of whether or not you wanted to dedicate yourself and put the time in.

00:57:11.000 Oh, jeez.

00:57:11.000 It's a fucking, like, there's this girl who I saw do stand-up for the first time, and she's pretty funny, and I told her, I go, hey, I think you're really funny.

00:57:19.000 You can really do this.

00:57:20.000 And then I went to her Instagram page the other day and watched her, a clip that she put up of an open mic, and it reminded me of what a fucking journey this is.

00:57:29.000 What a grind.

00:57:30.000 Right.

00:57:31.000 She's on the first steps of like, what's that Georgia, the Appalachian Trail?

00:57:36.000 Yep.

00:57:36.000 Where it takes like six months to walk it?

00:57:38.000 Exactly.

00:57:38.000 That's what she's doing.

00:57:39.000 But it's way worse than six months.

00:57:40.000 It's like, she's on the six year trail.

00:57:43.000 So there's a difference between someone wanting to do it recreationally and also do it to like put food on the table.

00:57:48.000 I think I could do it as like an open mic night.

00:57:50.000 For sure.

00:57:51.000 And get a few chuckles.

00:57:52.000 100%.

00:57:52.000 But when it comes to putting food on the table, my kids would die.

00:57:56.000 There was no way they would make a movie of comedy.

00:57:57.000 You could do it.

00:57:58.000 It just would take a Herculean effort and it would take years and years of dedicating yourself to open mic nights and then opening for people and then keeping writing on your act and keeping progressing.

00:58:12.000 So before comedians get into it full time, they don't have jobs, do they?

00:58:19.000 Because I listen to stories like yours and Dave's and stuff.

00:58:22.000 It doesn't seem like...

00:58:23.000 It seems like this was your life thing for both of you.

00:58:28.000 This is what you wanted to do.

00:58:29.000 Dave was so young, he didn't have a job.

00:58:31.000 When I met Dave, he was 18, and he was already doing stand-up.

00:58:34.000 Right.

00:58:34.000 And he was already a professional.

00:58:36.000 So they don't have...

00:58:37.000 That's what I mean.

00:58:37.000 I have a job now, in air quotes.

00:58:40.000 Yeah.

00:58:40.000 You also have a family, so it's like the time that's spent away where you'd have to go to open mic nights and not just one, right?

00:58:48.000 You try to go to two or three at night.

00:58:50.000 Damn.

00:58:50.000 Yeah, so you're leaving your house at seven and you're coming home at midnight every night.

00:58:54.000 Right.

00:58:54.000 You know, and then you're frustrated because you bombed two out of three times.

00:58:57.000 Right.

00:58:58.000 It's like, ugh, what am I doing?

00:58:59.000 Maybe even three out of three, right.

00:59:01.000 Maybe, but that one where you didn't bomb, if you had one of those nights, that's what sparks you.

00:59:06.000 That's like, God, maybe I can do this.

00:59:07.000 That's your hit.

00:59:08.000 I got you.

00:59:09.000 Yeah, and you start thinking what an amazing life it would be if you could just make a living telling jokes.

00:59:14.000 Right.

00:59:14.000 It is possible to do.

00:59:16.000 You 100% could do it.

00:59:18.000 It's just whether or not you wanted to dedicate yourself.

00:59:20.000 And most of the people that start out, like when I started, I was 21. And I started at 21 because I thought that you had to be 21 to get into the club.

00:59:28.000 Turns out they'll let people underage get in.

00:59:31.000 There's like licenses where you can kind of let people perform, but they have to leave after they perform.

00:59:37.000 You can't hang around the bar.

00:59:40.000 But it's just such a grind.

00:59:42.000 It takes so long before you're really making a living and really competent.

00:59:48.000 And there's no one who can teach you how to do it.

00:59:50.000 So you're kind of like a blind person bumping into walls.

00:59:53.000 Why can't someone teach you?

00:59:54.000 A veteran comedian.

00:59:56.000 They kind of can.

00:59:57.000 Francis Foster was on yesterday from the show Trigonometry and Francis for a long time actually taught a comedy course.

01:00:04.000 And he's a funny comic and he taught a comedy course.

01:00:07.000 And that's the rarity.

01:00:09.000 Most of the people that teach those things suck.

01:00:12.000 They're usually failed comedians and they're trying to like eke out some money by...

01:00:17.000 They put together a course and the course serves function though.

01:00:21.000 One of the things that it does serve is...

01:00:22.000 Is it a free course?

01:00:23.000 No.

01:00:24.000 Nothing's ever free as a joke.

01:00:26.000 Not in that world.

01:00:27.000 Damn it.

01:00:28.000 No, those people that do that are doing that just, some of them would say, some people would say, not me, that that's a scam.

01:00:34.000 Right.

01:00:35.000 And that they're not teaching you shit.

01:00:36.000 But what I think, they're providing a service where they're allowing you to get on stage for the first time.

01:00:42.000 Really?

01:00:42.000 And sometimes that's enough.

01:00:44.000 Like sometimes, some people want to do comedy.

01:00:47.000 They don't know how to start.

01:00:48.000 And so, oh, I'll take a comedy course.

01:00:49.000 And at the end of the course, they get you on stage and you perform.

01:00:53.000 Oh, you actually get on stage?

01:00:54.000 Yes.

01:00:55.000 A lot of them do that.

01:00:56.000 Oh shit, that's scary.

01:00:56.000 Yeah, they have like a five week thing or something like that.

01:00:59.000 And they'll have you try out your jokes in front of the crowd of comedians that are also there.

01:01:05.000 And then after five weeks, then they put together an actual show and friends and family will come and people will perform.

01:01:11.000 I couldn't do it.

01:01:11.000 That's the problem now.

01:01:12.000 Do you...

01:01:15.000 You ever feel weird when you make a joke and you're like, wait, my family could be in here somewhere.

01:01:19.000 You ever think about that all the time?

01:01:21.000 Yeah, you gotta be careful.

01:01:23.000 Yeah, because I'm nowhere near the level that you are, but I make those little shitty YouTube videos, and sometimes when I say something, I cringe.

01:01:32.000 I'm like, my mom could be watching this.

01:01:34.000 And it turns out she is watching it.

01:01:35.000 She actually called me and told me.

01:01:37.000 She called me and told me.

01:01:38.000 She goes, what was on your mind when you said that?

01:01:40.000 Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, geez, don't do this, mom.

01:01:42.000 Yeah, I cannot debate my material with my mother.

01:01:45.000 Yeah.

01:01:46.000 That's not going to happen.

01:01:47.000 I'm not going to have those conversations.

01:01:48.000 Does she watch?

01:01:49.000 Does she?

01:01:49.000 No.

01:01:50.000 Thank God.

01:01:50.000 It's for the best.

01:01:51.000 It's for the best.

01:01:51.000 My mom, she only finds out about me like, you know, if there's something in the news.

01:01:56.000 Some scandal?

01:01:56.000 Yeah.

01:01:56.000 If there's something, comes across her news feed or something political.

01:02:00.000 My mother is oddly political.

01:02:01.000 Right.

01:02:02.000 So it's like, Dad, she'll like, oh, glad you won't have Trump on your podcast.

01:02:06.000 I might come on.

01:02:07.000 Let's not talk about this.

01:02:09.000 Don't do this.

01:02:10.000 I have a good life, okay, Mom?

01:02:11.000 I have a very good life.

01:02:12.000 I just don't want to have a conversation with my mom about stuff like that.

01:02:16.000 I just would prefer her to never see my act, never listen to my podcast.

01:02:20.000 I'm just your son.

01:02:21.000 Let's leave it at that.

01:02:21.000 Are you guys on the same political level or no?

01:02:24.000 Well, my mother's like a diehard Democrat.

01:02:27.000 Okay.

01:02:27.000 Like a blue no matter who.

01:02:29.000 Right.

01:02:29.000 And doesn't see any of the ridiculousness of the party.

01:02:33.000 A lot of fun conversations there, I'm assuming.

01:02:35.000 If she was young, she would definitely have her gender pronouns in her Twitter bio.

01:02:38.000 Oh boy.

01:02:40.000 She doesn't have a Twitter, so luckily.

01:02:43.000 Thank goodness.

01:02:44.000 My parents were hippies, man.

01:02:45.000 Really?

01:02:46.000 Yeah, hardcore hippies when I was a kid.

01:02:47.000 Nice.

01:02:48.000 So they're all super democratic.

01:02:50.000 But it's like, they're all whores.

01:02:52.000 All political parties are whores.

01:02:54.000 Absolutely.

01:02:55.000 They're whores.

01:02:56.000 They're just fucking bought and sold by corporations.

01:02:58.000 Absolutely.

01:02:59.000 We all are, in a sense.

01:03:00.000 Aren't we all, Joe, when you think about it?

01:03:01.000 In a way, aren't we all, Joe?

01:03:02.000 I have a couple of crises that I'm facing right now.

01:03:08.000 You have to know who your overlords are, right?

01:03:11.000 As cool as we think we are, there's still systems in place that pay us.

01:03:16.000 So I had this big debate where I do ads on my channel.

01:03:22.000 And there was one that, there was a credit card company, a credit card app that wanted to run an ad on the channel.

01:03:32.000 I said, fine.

01:03:33.000 I looked at that name.

01:03:35.000 And that is the same name of the credit card company when I was a kid in college.

01:03:41.000 You know, you buy books in college.

01:03:43.000 They'll throw, hey, having trouble paying for your books?

01:03:45.000 They'll throw the little credit card application in there.

01:03:47.000 And it was the same company that got me hooked on that in the first place.

01:03:51.000 I think I went through, I mean, buying books every year, buying food, da-da-da.

01:03:57.000 I was probably racking up close to eight or nine grand just in credit card bills when I got out of school.

01:04:03.000 Wow.

01:04:04.000 And so now, that company, it's a shark company.

01:04:06.000 The interest rates, it's like 20-something percent.

01:04:08.000 It's ridiculous.

01:04:09.000 And they actually go after young kids to say, hey, look, we're going to ruin their credit at a young age so I can get them hooked on it and hopefully get some money out of them later.

01:04:17.000 That same company reached out to me, didn't know who I was, obviously, didn't care, and said, listen, I want you to run an ad on your channel for this.

01:04:27.000 What am I to do, Joe?

01:04:29.000 What should I do?

01:04:29.000 Because they're the ones that got me in debt in the first place, right?

01:04:33.000 Granted, I got myself out through...

01:04:34.000 I don't even know how that happened.

01:04:36.000 But that same company, that same shark company comes and says, you know what?

01:04:39.000 We want you for a second time.

01:04:40.000 What do you do, Joe?

01:04:41.000 What do you do?

01:04:42.000 It's interesting, right?

01:04:44.000 Because they are preying on young people and they do have predatory percentages of interest that they charge.

01:04:51.000 Right.

01:04:52.000 But it's your choice, right?

01:04:54.000 Right.

01:04:54.000 And also, like...

01:04:57.000 The loans that I have the biggest problem with, the most problem, are student loans.

01:05:01.000 Yes.

01:05:01.000 Because you can't get out of them.

01:05:04.000 No matter what you do, you go bankrupt, doesn't matter.

01:05:07.000 They still want it.

01:05:08.000 Fuck you, pay me.

01:05:09.000 You die, your kids, hey, what's up kids?

01:05:11.000 Yeah, they'll go after your kids.

01:05:13.000 They will.

01:05:14.000 Are we forgiving all student loans?

01:05:15.000 Forgive me.

01:05:16.000 I'm not up to date with what's going on.

01:05:17.000 No?

01:05:17.000 They were supposed to.

01:05:18.000 They're not going to.

01:05:19.000 That was part of the Biden administration's promises coming in.

01:05:22.000 They were going to exonerate people that were in prison for marijuana.

01:05:25.000 Right.

01:05:25.000 And then they were going to absolve student loan debt.

01:05:28.000 Do we do that yet?

01:05:28.000 No.

01:05:29.000 Neither one of those things.

01:05:30.000 They're not doing shit.

01:05:31.000 It's all nonsense.

01:05:32.000 They don't even talk about it anymore.

01:05:33.000 What?

01:05:34.000 Huh?

01:05:35.000 Who said that?

01:05:36.000 Who are you impersonating?

01:05:37.000 Not me!

01:05:38.000 Who are you?

01:05:41.000 Where am I? Those things are disgusting.

01:05:45.000 Student loans are disgusting.

01:05:46.000 Because you're taking a kid who's real nervous about their life, they want to do well, and they've got to go to college.

01:05:52.000 Okay, I'll go to college.

01:05:53.000 And then you're getting these Incredible loans, which they're impossible to get out of.

01:06:00.000 You can go bankrupt, it doesn't matter.

01:06:02.000 There's people right now that are getting their Social Security docked.

01:06:06.000 For student loans.

01:06:07.000 That's amazing to me.

01:06:08.000 It's horrible.

01:06:09.000 I mean, you're at the end of your life.

01:06:10.000 Yeah, right.

01:06:11.000 You're like 70, 80 years old.

01:06:12.000 You're in the home stretch.

01:06:12.000 Right, that's it.

01:06:13.000 And you're like, fuck you, pay me.

01:06:14.000 That's incredible, man.

01:06:16.000 There's no other loan like it.

01:06:17.000 Right.

01:06:18.000 And you're giving these loans primarily to people who don't have their frontal lobe formed yet.

01:06:23.000 Nope.

01:06:23.000 Which is crazy.

01:06:24.000 I was a child.

01:06:25.000 A child.

01:06:26.000 Yeah.

01:06:27.000 Yeah.

01:06:27.000 That's what pisses me off, is that a small, selfish part of me hopes that they don't forgive the student loans because I paid mine off.

01:06:34.000 Like, where's...

01:06:35.000 You know what I mean?

01:06:36.000 Yeah, a lot of people feel like that.

01:06:38.000 Fuck you, I'm fucking paid.

01:06:40.000 People feel like that about healthcare, too.

01:06:42.000 Fuck you, I'm fucking paid.

01:06:45.000 But I think we have to look at the big picture.

01:06:47.000 And I think those predatory student loans are horrific for society.

01:06:50.000 I agree.

01:06:51.000 And they also make people make poor choices in terms of what you want to do for a living.

01:06:55.000 Because you just go into these jobs because you're overwhelmed with debt.

01:06:59.000 And then, you know, that has a giant effect on what kind of productivity you can sort of get out of your life.

01:07:05.000 Because you can't really pursue your dreams if you have these overwhelming burdens of debt.

01:07:11.000 So I went to my dentist.

01:07:16.000 My daughter's in college now, so the big debate was whether or not she wanted to stay home and local and go to a Massachusetts school or go to the University of San Diego.

01:07:25.000 Go with that weather.

01:07:27.000 Yeah, that's what I thought too.

01:07:29.000 We went to the University of San Diego and beautiful campus, beautiful school, everyone's great looking, everyone's happy and friendly.

01:07:38.000 Joe, you know how much schools go for now?

01:07:40.000 Schools are stupid money now.

01:07:42.000 How much is the tuition?

01:07:43.000 You're looking at like 75k a year.

01:07:47.000 Jesus Christ.

01:07:48.000 Some schools you're knocking on 80 grand a year.

01:07:50.000 What if you have two kids?

01:07:52.000 Yeah, what if you have three or four?

01:07:57.000 That's so crazy.

01:07:58.000 If you're a regular person, how do you afford college?

01:08:01.000 Either way, that's another debate.

01:08:03.000 But she ended up staying in Mass, thank God.

01:08:06.000 School was a lot cheaper.

01:08:07.000 We worked some stuff out.

01:08:08.000 I went to my dentist and I said, you know, my daughter's in college.

01:08:13.000 And out of curiosity, like, you know, we were debating whether or not to have her go to one school and have student loans or another school And not have any student loans, right?

01:08:23.000 And she said, well, I have student loans.

01:08:25.000 I said, okay.

01:08:26.000 Like, well, you know, well, how are you doing so far?

01:08:27.000 She goes, you know, I'm paying them.

01:08:28.000 I'm surviving.

01:08:29.000 My husband is a dentist, and I'm a dentist too, so we do well for ourselves.

01:08:34.000 I was like, awesome.

01:08:35.000 I was like, hey, I have a question for you.

01:08:37.000 Like, kind of personal question.

01:08:39.000 How much money in student loans do you have?

01:08:42.000 She goes, ah, about five or so.

01:08:45.000 I was like, I don't understand this.

01:08:49.000 Half a million dollars.

01:08:52.000 500,000.

01:08:54.000 I said, is that even possible?

01:08:56.000 I didn't think that was possible, Joe.

01:08:58.000 But it's a very possible number.

01:09:01.000 So is that because of the interest?

01:09:03.000 That's because she's been out of school for about three years now and her balance is about like $4.98.

01:09:10.000 Oh my god.

01:09:11.000 So that's putting her through, like I didn't run the numbers at first, but that's putting her through dental school, undergrad, living there.

01:09:20.000 Half a million dollars, Joe.

01:09:21.000 I wonder how many people force people or encourage people to get procedures that they don't really need because they need the money.

01:09:29.000 A lot of people.

01:09:30.000 I bet they do.

01:09:31.000 A lot of people.

01:09:31.000 I bet it's an incentive.

01:09:33.000 It's scary.

01:09:34.000 Speaking of incentive, you always want to know what the incentive for something is.

01:09:37.000 Being in the industry that I'm in now, it's so cutthroat.

01:09:42.000 Someone always wants something from you.

01:09:44.000 I always think to myself, where's the sale?

01:09:46.000 What is someone trying to sell me here?

01:09:48.000 Well, in terms of the credit card company, they just want you, your popular YouTuber, put that out there.

01:09:54.000 Maybe we'll get some people to get suckered into our credit card.

01:09:57.000 Right, like you did.

01:09:58.000 Like you did years ago.

01:10:00.000 So the moral of that story is I took the money, Joe.

01:10:02.000 I took the money.

01:10:03.000 I don't think there's anything wrong with that because it's laid out.

01:10:07.000 It's pretty clear.

01:10:08.000 If you spend money, you're supposed to pay it back.

01:10:11.000 And if you spend money and there's a certain amount of interest attached to that, you're supposed to pay that back too.

01:10:15.000 And you know what the numbers are.

01:10:17.000 Yeah.

01:10:17.000 You don't interest rates high.

01:10:18.000 But that's not like school loans.

01:10:20.000 School loans are crazy.

01:10:21.000 Right.

01:10:21.000 Because school loans, like, you're one semester, two semesters, it adds up, stacks up, and then you're out of school two, three years, and you owe a half a million dollars.

01:10:29.000 Right.

01:10:30.000 And, you know, what is she making a year?

01:10:31.000 200?

01:10:32.000 Yeah.

01:10:32.000 So she's like, how much is she- Not half a million a year.

01:10:34.000 How long does it take her to pay that off?

01:10:36.000 If she has a house, good luck to you.

01:10:37.000 Right.

01:10:38.000 And if she makes 200, she's also got to pay taxes on that 200. Yep.

01:10:41.000 And then where the fuck are you going to get a half a million dollars?

01:10:45.000 It takes forever.

01:10:46.000 It takes forever.

01:10:47.000 Absolutely.

01:10:47.000 It makes people greedy and it makes people selfish because you're overwhelmed by this pressure.

01:10:53.000 It's also got to be terrible for your health to have that looming over you.

01:10:57.000 Half a million dollars.

01:10:59.000 You could have a house.

01:11:00.000 I mean, most houses now are damn near half a million dollars anyways, more than that.

01:11:04.000 And now you think to yourself, you have a million dollars in debt, assuming you buy a house for half a million and you have another half million student loans.

01:11:11.000 And the rates are higher for student loans.

01:11:13.000 So you're paying serious money for that.

01:11:15.000 And if you have a job that you hate, and then you have a dream of being a stand-up comedian, that shit is not going to happen, son.

01:11:22.000 Godspeed, man.

01:11:22.000 Godspeed to you.

01:11:24.000 It's not easy to get by in this world.

01:11:26.000 This world requires very smart decision-making early on.

01:11:31.000 Because a guy like yourself that is married and has children, the thing about that is now you have dependents.

01:11:38.000 Now you can't take chances anymore.

01:11:41.000 You can't do some big thing where you're going to start from scratch and move to a studio apartment and rebuild your business.

01:11:47.000 No, it's not going to happen.

01:11:48.000 It's not happening.

01:11:49.000 Your wife will scream at you.

01:11:50.000 Everybody will be mad at you.

01:11:51.000 Why the fuck did you get us into this?

01:11:53.000 I want to be a comedian.

01:11:54.000 What's the big deal?

01:11:55.000 You suck.

01:11:56.000 You're not funny.

01:11:57.000 Call your boss.

01:11:58.000 Beg for your job back.

01:11:59.000 Someone told me I was funny.

01:12:00.000 No.

01:12:01.000 Hon, I took a course on how to be a comedian.

01:12:03.000 Who wrote that course?

01:12:04.000 A comedian!

01:12:05.000 You ever watch his act?

01:12:06.000 No, I never have.

01:12:07.000 Terrible!

01:12:07.000 I thought it was pretty good.

01:12:09.000 Yeah, that guy's teaching that course because he didn't make it as a comic, unfortunately.

01:12:13.000 Oh, yeah.

01:12:13.000 It's a lot.

01:12:14.000 It's a lot of the people doing it.

01:12:15.000 It wasn't with Francis Foster, the guy who was here yesterday, but he's in England.

01:12:19.000 But in most people in America, those courses are taught by failures.

01:12:23.000 So, wait a second.

01:12:24.000 So, I guess there's two different schools of thought to everything.

01:12:28.000 You can be a comedian, or you could teach people how to be a comedian.

01:12:32.000 What makes more money?

01:12:33.000 Being a comedian.

01:12:35.000 100%.

01:12:35.000 Well, if you're a successful comedian.

01:12:37.000 Yeah, but successful comedians don't teach people how to be comedians.

01:12:40.000 Gotcha.

01:12:41.000 Not here, at least.

01:12:42.000 Right.

01:12:43.000 I mean, they could.

01:12:44.000 Maybe there's one or two out there that I'm not aware of.

01:12:46.000 Why don't they?

01:12:48.000 Because they're selfish.

01:12:49.000 Also, to want to do that, you have to want to be a teacher of comedy.

01:12:55.000 If you want to be a person who also is dealing with delusional people, because unless you're screening your applicants, stand-up comedy is a thing where you are either a funny person or you are not a funny person.

01:13:09.000 If you are not a funny person, the odds of you becoming a funny person are extremely small.

01:13:14.000 I wouldn't say it's impossible.

01:13:16.000 Because I've met people that I didn't think were very good in the beginning, and now they're really good.

01:13:20.000 Really?

01:13:20.000 I'm like, wow, that guy grinded it out, and he made it, and kudos.

01:13:24.000 That's even more work, though.

01:13:26.000 I mean, if you start off as reasonably funny, you take your course, and then you're funny, but if you suck...

01:13:31.000 It's not even that easy.

01:13:33.000 Really?

01:13:33.000 Yeah, because it's like subject matter.

01:13:35.000 You have to find topics.

01:13:37.000 And then you have to massage those topics, and you have to do it in real time on stage.

01:13:41.000 I write things, but what it is on paper before it becomes a joke that I can put in a Netflix special?

01:13:49.000 It's a lot of processing.

01:13:50.000 Oh my god, there's so much time and effort.

01:13:53.000 There's so much involved in that.

01:13:54.000 So is that how comedians do it?

01:13:56.000 When I start my career, you pretty much just write notes down on your phone or whatever, your iPad.

01:14:02.000 And you just keep massaging those over and over again until it's family-friendly?

01:14:06.000 How does that work?

01:14:07.000 Everybody does it different.

01:14:09.000 Some people just wait for ideas to come to them, and then they just sort of keep those ideas in their head, and they try them on stage, and then they keep building them.

01:14:18.000 Some really successful comedians do it that way.

01:14:20.000 And some comedians write things out, and they write, and then they, some people write in joke form.

01:14:26.000 I write in, like, essay form.

01:14:29.000 I just write about subjects.

01:14:31.000 And then I take all the stuff that I wrote, and then I extract things from them that I think is funny, and then I try it out on stage.

01:14:37.000 How do you remember that stuff, though?

01:14:38.000 My memory is, I mean, how do you remember, you have acts that are over an hour long.

01:14:42.000 How does that work?

01:14:43.000 I have a good memory.

01:14:45.000 Yeah, but these companies, like a company like Onnit that makes AlphaBrain, these things, what this is called is called a nootropic, and these really do help your memory.

01:14:58.000 And there's not just AlphaBrain, which is something from Onnit that I'm a part of, but also there's some stuff over there called NeuroGum, That I use.

01:15:08.000 We don't have any stake in that.

01:15:09.000 You chew gum and what does it make you?

01:15:11.000 Yeah, it's got a bunch of different nootropics in the gum.

01:15:15.000 And so when you chew this gum, it actually enhances your memory.

01:15:20.000 See, I don't know what studies they've done on the gum, but I do feel a benefit in it.

01:15:25.000 But with AlphaBrain, we did two double-blind, placebo-controlled studies at the Boston Center for Memory.

01:15:32.000 And it really does help verbal memory.

01:15:34.000 It helps reaction time, your ability to form sentences.

01:15:39.000 So it's provable results.

01:15:40.000 You think you're cheating, Joe, or taking the pills before you go up on stage?

01:15:42.000 100%.

01:15:43.000 You're definitely cheating.

01:15:43.000 Yeah, I'm cheating.

01:15:44.000 I'm cheating with weed, too.

01:15:46.000 Weed cheats.

01:15:47.000 So you shouldn't see that's the thing.

01:15:49.000 You should sell that now.

01:15:50.000 Sell it to all potential comedians that want to get into the game.

01:15:53.000 Hey, take the Alpha Brain stuff.

01:15:54.000 It's not enough.

01:15:55.000 It's not enough.

01:15:56.000 You don't necessarily have to have a great memory to be a comic.

01:15:59.000 You have to be able to remember your material.

01:16:02.000 And since you've worked on it so much, you probably will remember it.

01:16:05.000 Right.

01:16:05.000 It's not a memory thing.

01:16:07.000 It's a funny thing.

01:16:08.000 And funny is...

01:16:09.000 It's ethereal.

01:16:12.000 It's impossible to grasp.

01:16:14.000 It's just fucking...

01:16:16.000 It's trying to grab air.

01:16:17.000 So you can't be funny.

01:16:19.000 So you think that people that learn how to be comedians that weren't funny before, they're just good orators.

01:16:25.000 They're just good at talking and landing jokes.

01:16:26.000 They don't have to be funny people.

01:16:28.000 Is that what you're saying?

01:16:29.000 It depends.

01:16:30.000 Some people are really funny people and they become great comics.

01:16:33.000 And some people are not funny, but they know how to write funny.

01:16:36.000 Right.

01:16:36.000 And then they become great comics that way.

01:16:39.000 They can become funny through their work.

01:16:41.000 The thing is, there's a whole bunch of different kinds of funny.

01:16:45.000 There's Mitch Hedberg funny, and then there's Chris Rock funny.

01:16:48.000 There's Sam Kinison funny, and there's Jerry Seinfeld funny.

01:16:53.000 Funny is a weird thing.

01:16:56.000 It's just like music.

01:16:57.000 There's certain genres.

01:17:02.000 And then there's Frank Sinatra.

01:17:03.000 I like that kind.

01:17:04.000 Do you like that kind?

01:17:05.000 Do you like metal?

01:17:06.000 I do like metal, yeah.

01:17:07.000 Speed metal?

01:17:09.000 You know, when you go into a pit and you just start slam dancing and stuff?

01:17:14.000 I'm too old for that now.

01:17:15.000 But I'm already watching the youth do it.

01:17:17.000 Like watching the youth collide with each other?

01:17:19.000 Watching the youth collide, exactly.

01:17:21.000 Moshing has got to be one of the dumbest fucking things.

01:17:23.000 I can't believe that.

01:17:24.000 My daughter went to...

01:17:26.000 What'd she go to?

01:17:27.000 Rolling Loud in Miami not that long ago.

01:17:32.000 And she took a video of the mosh pit.

01:17:34.000 And I'm just like, how do you even...

01:17:36.000 Are you kidding me?

01:17:38.000 Yeah.

01:17:39.000 You're literally just launching into each other and getting curb stomped over and over again.

01:17:42.000 Yeah.

01:17:42.000 I used to date a girl when I was 21 who was into moshing.

01:17:46.000 Yeah.

01:17:47.000 And she came over to my apartment once and she was all dizzy.

01:17:49.000 Yeah, like, what are you doing?

01:17:50.000 She just got out of a mosh pit.

01:17:50.000 Brain damage.

01:17:51.000 Brain damage.

01:17:52.000 She got head butted.

01:17:52.000 Yeah, she got brain damage.

01:17:54.000 Exactly.

01:17:54.000 Like, what are we doing here?

01:17:55.000 Are you okay?

01:17:55.000 Yeah.

01:17:56.000 Are you good?

01:17:57.000 Yeah.

01:17:57.000 She was like, can I sit down?

01:17:58.000 I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

01:18:00.000 Did you guys break up because she passed away or something?

01:18:02.000 She didn't make it?

01:18:03.000 It didn't work out for various reasons.

01:18:05.000 Right.

01:18:05.000 The head trauma.

01:18:06.000 There was no bad thing.

01:18:08.000 Right.

01:18:08.000 It just didn't work out.

01:18:09.000 Yeah, I gotcha.

01:18:10.000 But yeah, no, it's wild.

01:18:13.000 I've always thought about comedy.

01:18:16.000 Actually, no, I have a question for you, Joe.

01:18:17.000 Okay.

01:18:18.000 This is going to be a good one.

01:18:20.000 Who's your least favorite comedian?

01:18:21.000 A person that just is not, like, you are not funny.

01:18:23.000 Like, I say it all the time.

01:18:25.000 I can say that because I'm not a comedian.

01:18:26.000 I see someone go up on stage.

01:18:27.000 I'm like, this person is not funny.

01:18:28.000 I want to change the channel.

01:18:29.000 Who do you have that reaction to?

01:18:30.000 How much time do we have here?

01:18:31.000 Oh, yeah.

01:18:32.000 We have as much time as you want, man.

01:18:34.000 I prefer not to talk about people that I don't like.

01:18:37.000 Understood.

01:18:37.000 Because I don't think there's any positive to it, and I don't want to shit on them.

01:18:41.000 But are there people?

01:18:41.000 Yeah, there's a lot of people that suck.

01:18:43.000 Gotcha.

01:18:43.000 Okay.

01:18:44.000 But that's like, there's a lot of music that I don't like.

01:18:47.000 When I'm in the car with my fucking kids and they want to play music, I'm like, no, no, no, no.

01:18:50.000 We're not listening to that.

01:18:51.000 Really?

01:18:51.000 Because I have to listen to it, too.

01:18:53.000 What music do your kids like that you don't?

01:18:54.000 I don't even know who's singing it.

01:18:56.000 Right.

01:18:56.000 It's just nonsense.

01:18:57.000 It's not good, yeah.

01:18:58.000 It's just nonsense.

01:18:59.000 Yeah.

01:18:59.000 Understood.

01:19:00.000 It's like, you know, my kids are into some modern hip-hop, and I try to play them like Wu-Tang Clan.

01:19:06.000 I'm like, listen to the fucking lyrics.

01:19:08.000 Yeah, but Wu-Tang Clan isn't exactly for the children either, though.

01:19:13.000 Wu-Tang is for the children.

01:19:14.000 Yeah, actually.

01:19:15.000 It depends on who you ask.

01:19:16.000 If you ask ODB, then yes, God rest his soul.

01:19:18.000 But yeah, no, it's...

01:19:19.000 R.I.P. R.I.P. Yeah.

01:19:21.000 But yeah, that's...

01:19:22.000 Yeah, Wu-Tang.

01:19:23.000 I've heard some lyrics.

01:19:24.000 I'm like, you know what?

01:19:25.000 Man, yeah.

01:19:26.000 Yeah, I love Nas.

01:19:27.000 I love great lyrics.

01:19:29.000 Right.

01:19:29.000 So, like, lyrics in hip-hop, it's like, I'm from the 90s.

01:19:34.000 I know.

01:19:35.000 Those days, like, the Cool G Rap, DJ Polo days, you know?

01:19:41.000 Yep.

01:19:41.000 The Ill Street Blues.

01:19:42.000 Like, I love all that stuff.

01:19:44.000 See, I love that too, but believe it or not, Joe, I like a lot of the modern stuff too.

01:19:48.000 Like, people hate mumble rap so much.

01:19:51.000 And I hate it too, but I think the beats and the tracks are delayed over are just amazing.

01:19:56.000 I love modern beats, and sometimes the lyrics don't really match the beat, but I try to ignore the lyrics and just jam out to the music itself.

01:20:05.000 Well, I think sometimes with those beats, it's like the lyrics are almost like it's just another sound that accentuates the music.

01:20:12.000 Exactly.

01:20:13.000 But then there's still, like, Kendrick Lamar, who has killer lyrics.

01:20:17.000 Absolutely.

01:20:18.000 You know, it's like there's still great lyricists out there.

01:20:21.000 Absolutely.

01:20:21.000 You know, and Nas is still making great stuff.

01:20:24.000 His last CD was great.

01:20:26.000 Do you call it a CD anymore?

01:20:27.000 Which CD? What is it?

01:20:28.000 Is it an album?

01:20:29.000 Do you call it an album?

01:20:30.000 His last 8-track.

01:20:31.000 His last thing?

01:20:32.000 His joint?

01:20:33.000 What do you call it?

01:20:33.000 For some reason, one of my favorite ones by Nas was the one that...

01:20:38.000 Kanye West produced.

01:20:40.000 Kanye West beats are just top notch to me.

01:20:44.000 But no, I like a lot of the Martin stuff.

01:20:46.000 I'm almost scared to admit it, but the mumble rap I kind of enjoy too.

01:20:49.000 Which guys do you like that mumble rap that you enjoy?

01:20:51.000 I like Future.

01:20:52.000 Big Future guy.

01:20:54.000 I like Future.

01:20:57.000 Gosh, there's so many of them.

01:20:59.000 Playboy Cardi.

01:21:01.000 He just squeaks and makes these random noises on the mic.

01:21:04.000 I'm just like, it's kind of annoying, but it's kind of cool to say.

01:21:07.000 That's the thing.

01:21:08.000 What they're doing right now, it might be cringe to a lot of people, but it's still art.

01:21:14.000 Dare I say, you know what, you don't like what he's saying, then you do it.

01:21:18.000 Let's see what you sound like.

01:21:19.000 He was able to rise to popularity for a certain reason.

01:21:24.000 That's true.

01:21:25.000 There are people that do enjoy that.

01:21:27.000 Yeah.

01:21:27.000 And these people are still making millions of dollars.

01:21:29.000 So it's like, he's doing something right.

01:21:31.000 Well, isn't there a thing where every generation complains about the next generations?

01:21:36.000 I mean, there's people that were complaining about, like, Led Zeppelin.

01:21:39.000 Exactly.

01:21:39.000 Like, this isn't music.

01:21:40.000 Right, or the Beatles.

01:21:41.000 What is this shit?

01:21:42.000 Yeah.

01:21:43.000 This isn't music.

01:21:45.000 Where's the harmonica?

01:21:46.000 Right.

01:21:47.000 Where's the harp?

01:21:50.000 Seriously, yeah.

01:21:52.000 I'm old.

01:21:52.000 There's always gonna be like a kind of new thing that the old people don't like.

01:21:57.000 That you don't like.

01:21:58.000 Right.

01:21:58.000 Yeah.

01:21:58.000 Like EDM. People are just like...

01:22:01.000 Oh, can't.

01:22:01.000 I can't.

01:22:01.000 You can't?

01:22:02.000 Can't.

01:22:02.000 Really?

01:22:03.000 No.

01:22:04.000 Okay.

01:22:04.000 We got no time for that.

01:22:05.000 I respect it, yeah.

01:22:06.000 It takes a lot of time.

01:22:06.000 Each track is like 45 minutes long.

01:22:08.000 Also, I've only done Ecstasy once.

01:22:10.000 Right.

01:22:10.000 I just can't keep doing it.

01:22:13.000 The requirement is you have to have ecstasy before you actually enjoy that music.

01:22:16.000 I feel like there's a lot of people out there doing ecstasy.

01:22:18.000 That was the dead.

01:22:19.000 I never understood the dead.

01:22:21.000 And my friends were like, you've got to do acid.

01:22:22.000 The music requires acid.

01:22:25.000 It can't be that good.

01:22:27.000 Yeah, but some music does require drugs.

01:22:29.000 And then you get it.

01:22:31.000 What music requires what drugs?

01:22:33.000 What type of music requires marijuana?

01:22:35.000 Is it reggae music?

01:22:36.000 Oh, that's interesting.

01:22:37.000 A lot of music is enhanced by marijuana.

01:22:40.000 Marijuana enhances a lot of music, yeah.

01:22:43.000 Could You Be Loved?

01:22:45.000 Listen to that when you're high.

01:22:47.000 Buffalo Soldier?

01:22:48.000 A lot of good ones out there.

01:22:50.000 There's some great music that is enhanced by marijuana.

01:22:54.000 Isn't all music, I mean, marijuana enhances your senses anyway, so technically wouldn't all music, couldn't you enjoy all music more because of that?

01:23:05.000 Maybe Slayer wouldn't be good if you were high.

01:23:07.000 Yeah, it's like, whoa, what the hell?

01:23:09.000 Where's that coming from?

01:23:12.000 Yeah, Pantera, some fucking wild, crazy fucking...

01:23:15.000 I don't know.

01:23:16.000 Maybe hyper-aggressive music wouldn't be good.

01:23:19.000 Because marijuana does calm you in a lot of cases, so I guess calmer, more music is better.

01:23:24.000 I think you hear things.

01:23:26.000 I remember the first time I listened to Seal when I was high.

01:23:30.000 Yeah.

01:23:30.000 Like, Kiss by a Rose.

01:23:31.000 Kiss by a Rose.

01:23:32.000 Yeah.

01:23:33.000 You hear, like, all this sound.

01:23:34.000 Whoa!

01:23:35.000 There's, like, a symbol that's over here.

01:23:37.000 Where's that bird?

01:23:38.000 There was a bird there?

01:23:39.000 What is this?

01:23:40.000 Imagine being high there.

01:23:42.000 They're all high, but they're all high on exercise.

01:23:44.000 I don't think they're high on marijuana.

01:23:45.000 I think they're high on something else.

01:23:46.000 They're all high on Molly or something.

01:23:47.000 Yeah.

01:23:47.000 Let me hear this.

01:23:52.000 That's weird.

01:23:53.000 Yeah, the Lord doesn't want us to hear this.

01:23:55.000 Yeah, that's correct.

01:23:56.000 It's not working.

01:23:56.000 Copyright, copyright.

01:23:57.000 But look at the guys just pressing buttons.

01:24:01.000 Do you think sometimes they just pretend they're fucking with those things?

01:24:03.000 Absolutely.

01:24:04.000 A little bit.

01:24:05.000 Those aren't doing anything.

01:24:06.000 Yeah, but it's a lot of setup for this.

01:24:08.000 Seriously.

01:24:09.000 He also set up all the lights.

01:24:10.000 Sir, that's not even plugged in.

01:24:11.000 I can tell it's not plugged in.

01:24:12.000 How come we can't hear it?

01:24:13.000 I don't know, honestly.

01:24:14.000 I'm trying to figure that out right now.

01:24:16.000 So you have this glowing...

01:24:17.000 I can understand this.

01:24:18.000 I know there's some that can, but I'm looking at this and I'm like, I don't know what's going on there.

01:24:23.000 There's a lot going on.

01:24:24.000 So is that a mosh pit?

01:24:25.000 I don't think it's a mosh pit.

01:24:27.000 I think they're just jumping around.

01:24:29.000 I saw a morning star there.

01:24:30.000 People are getting hurt in that pit.

01:24:32.000 Yeah?

01:24:32.000 Yeah.

01:24:33.000 What's a morning star?

01:24:34.000 Morning star is the giant medieval weapon that has a ball that has a spike on it that you club people with back in the day.

01:24:39.000 People have that?

01:24:40.000 I thought I saw that they had one.

01:24:42.000 What?

01:24:42.000 It looked just like it, yeah.

01:24:43.000 Are you sure it wasn't a bong?

01:24:44.000 Yeah.

01:24:45.000 See, look, there's a guy in there that has one, for sure.

01:24:47.000 Where?

01:24:48.000 Oh, no, that's the alien guy.

01:24:49.000 Never mind.

01:24:51.000 What alien?

01:24:51.000 See the alien jumping over there on the left?

01:24:54.000 It's a weird alien thing.

01:24:55.000 Oh, I see.

01:24:56.000 Everyone's all sweating profusely.

01:24:57.000 They're doing drugs for sure.

01:24:58.000 Not judging, but they definitely are.

01:25:00.000 They're doing dance drugs.

01:25:02.000 Dance drugs are real.

01:25:03.000 Ecstasy is a dance drug.

01:25:05.000 Look at her.

01:25:06.000 She's been doing that for hours.

01:25:07.000 The same move over and over again.

01:25:11.000 What is that state?

01:25:13.000 I would pass out.

01:25:15.000 There's a lot going on there, Joe.

01:25:17.000 They look like they're having fun.

01:25:18.000 There we go.

01:25:21.000 I eat ass.

01:25:21.000 See that guy?

01:25:22.000 He eats ass.

01:25:24.000 He's on something.

01:25:27.000 Again, not judging.

01:25:28.000 That's a Kiss song.

01:25:30.000 Yeah, so that's how I found my way into it.

01:25:33.000 I found people remixing songs I already like, and then sort of find some stuff.

01:25:38.000 See, I love that song.

01:25:39.000 Are they just stealing from other artists?

01:25:41.000 Well, are they?

01:25:43.000 I mean, does it hurt the artist?

01:25:46.000 If it hurts the artist, they're stealing.

01:25:48.000 They get paid, though, in some cases, so it's not stealing.

01:25:50.000 Right, yeah, good point.

01:25:51.000 Well, yeah, the artist gets royalties.

01:25:53.000 But do the artist get royalties if you just play it at a concert like that?

01:25:56.000 They're supposed to.

01:25:57.000 Well, that's part of what you're paying for.

01:26:00.000 It's an actual song.

01:26:00.000 Yeah.

01:26:00.000 Oh, so you have to license the music to go play to the concert?

01:26:03.000 Yeah, that's ASCAP and BMI. I love you.

01:26:06.000 I love you.

01:26:08.000 I love you.

01:26:09.000 It's so good.

01:26:09.000 She loves everything.

01:26:10.000 She loves her dog.

01:26:11.000 She loves her house.

01:26:12.000 She loves her cat.

01:26:13.000 She's high as fuck.

01:26:14.000 She really is.

01:26:15.000 You might get a clearance from someone, though, and they could say, you can't perform it live.

01:26:19.000 That would be like, if you want to record it and release it, that's what you agreed to.

01:26:23.000 I want to have that effect on people.

01:26:25.000 Do you?

01:26:26.000 Imagine that, people just cheering.

01:26:27.000 You know what I mean?

01:26:28.000 It's kind of cool.

01:26:28.000 Probably wild.

01:26:29.000 It's probably a wild feeling to be just on that stage and everybody's rocking out.

01:26:33.000 Right.

01:26:34.000 Yeah.

01:26:34.000 That's kind of crazy.

01:26:35.000 Have you ever thought about performing in some sort of a way?

01:26:37.000 You obviously enjoy doing the YouTube videos.

01:26:40.000 You enjoy that they're very popular.

01:26:42.000 Have you thought about performing in some way?

01:26:45.000 You know what?

01:26:45.000 I haven't thought about performing, but I thought about making...

01:26:51.000 I want to make screenplays.

01:26:54.000 I really want to do that.

01:26:55.000 I don't think I want to perform.

01:26:56.000 I've always wanted to be an actor.

01:26:57.000 I've always wanted to be an actor.

01:26:59.000 Really?

01:26:59.000 And then YouTube is my way of acting.

01:27:02.000 I have a lot of really cool, I don't want to say cool, really weird videos that I've done where I integrate skits and comedy Into the video itself.

01:27:10.000 Like, my favorite comedies, I mean, I love The Simpsons, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Always Sunny in Philadelphia, and, you know, Arrested Development.

01:27:20.000 Those are my favorite shows.

01:27:21.000 And I always try to integrate some kind of really weird, cringy humor in some of my videos.

01:27:27.000 Like, I did a video where we didn't have a video.

01:27:31.000 We have to make a video every week.

01:27:32.000 And one week, I did not have a video to make.

01:27:34.000 All my cars were broken, couldn't get parts for them.

01:27:37.000 I had to make a video that was entertaining.

01:27:41.000 Now, when you say you have to, are you contractually obligated?

01:27:43.000 I don't have to, but that's my thing.

01:27:45.000 If I miss a week, I feel bad.

01:27:48.000 Doing YouTube videos every week, it claims relevancy.

01:27:52.000 It keeps you relevant.

01:27:53.000 Because information travels so fast and there's so much news at once, you can be easily forgotten if you don't put away.

01:27:59.000 If you take a break from YouTube for six months, good luck to you.

01:28:03.000 Because there's a hundred other YouTubers that popped up since then.

01:28:06.000 But during that week, we didn't have a video to make.

01:28:09.000 And I was approaching the million subscriber mark.

01:28:12.000 And I said to Stephen, hey, let's make a video based on...

01:28:20.000 The millionth subscriber.

01:28:21.000 Everyone does, hey, I hit a million.

01:28:23.000 They throw a pizza party, all this crazy shit.

01:28:26.000 I said, you know what?

01:28:27.000 Let's make a one millionth subscriber video, but what do we do?

01:28:31.000 I said, what's the cringiest thing we can do?

01:28:33.000 And I said, let's do this.

01:28:35.000 For the one millionth video, one millionth subscriber video, taking my millionth subscriber's wife out to dinner.

01:28:47.000 Dude, that video, we filmed literally everything.

01:28:51.000 We filmed me getting ready for the date.

01:28:53.000 I got dressed up in my IT guys outfit.

01:28:57.000 I had a button-up shirt.

01:28:58.000 How did you make the decision to take the wife, not the person?

01:29:02.000 Because it's funnier.

01:29:03.000 It's weirder.

01:29:04.000 It's weird.

01:29:05.000 Yeah, because taking my millions, hey, what's up, bro?

01:29:07.000 How you doing, man?

01:29:07.000 No, no, no.

01:29:08.000 You take his wife to dinner.

01:29:09.000 And I'll tell you...

01:29:10.000 It had absolutely nothing to do with cars whatsoever.

01:29:14.000 The scary part is that this is a car channel.

01:29:19.000 Car channels are probably one of the most expensive channels to run.

01:29:23.000 You have a video game channel, you can make millions just playing video games.

01:29:27.000 If you have a makeup channel, you can make millions just putting on lipstick.

01:29:31.000 For Car Channel, you have to buy the cars, fix them, build them, upgrade them, etc.

01:29:37.000 Now for this, I was like broke as hell.

01:29:40.000 I was like, I don't have any money left.

01:29:41.000 Let's figure something out.

01:29:42.000 We did that video.

01:29:44.000 Surprisingly, out of nowhere, it was one of the most successful videos I've ever done.

01:29:48.000 Really?

01:29:48.000 Because it was just...

01:29:49.000 So weird.

01:29:51.000 The wife, she wasn't an actress.

01:29:55.000 Everything that I had to do was improv.

01:29:57.000 I got her gifts.

01:29:59.000 One of the gifts was a vibrator.

01:30:02.000 Seriously.

01:30:04.000 And she had no idea what we were going to give her, but everything was improv.

01:30:09.000 And it was probably one of the most fun times I've ever had.

01:30:12.000 Really?

01:30:13.000 It was amazing.

01:30:14.000 Steven, my right-hand man, he was filming everything and he was filming our live interaction.

01:30:18.000 She knew nothing that was going to happen and she just played along.

01:30:22.000 It was perfect.

01:30:23.000 And so I enjoy doing stuff like that.

01:30:25.000 I enjoy awkward humor and awkward situations.

01:30:30.000 So have you thought about doing more kind of videos like that?

01:30:33.000 Like different scenarios?

01:30:34.000 Yeah, we did another one that was wildly popular too.

01:30:37.000 We found a car from a girl on Tinder.

01:30:40.000 It's supposed to be a Tinder date, and she had a car in her profile that I wanted to buy.

01:30:45.000 You'll have to watch it.

01:30:46.000 I thought it was pretty entertaining.

01:30:48.000 I'm starting to stare a little bit more away from the car stuff, and then just a little bit more sketch random comedy and stuff.

01:30:55.000 So we have a lot of different random things that we do.

01:30:57.000 But what I really wanted to do was...

01:30:59.000 So there's the car side of me, and then there's the comedic timing side of me.

01:31:06.000 I actually wanted to do a screenplay.

01:31:09.000 I guess to get more in touch with my, I guess you could say, I don't want to say, sensitive side.

01:31:14.000 So there's a couple issues that, you know how you, a lot of issues that you have built up, you could do through comedy.

01:31:21.000 If you have an issue, you could do it through artistic art.

01:31:24.000 So there was, I wanted to do a screenplay on something called The Faceless Man.

01:31:30.000 I'm going to give this whole thing away, it doesn't really matter.

01:31:32.000 I'll probably never make it, but The faceless man is someone that you see every day, but you don't recognize him as a person at all.

01:31:40.000 You just see him every day.

01:31:41.000 He's like a blank face.

01:31:42.000 Okay, I see that guy.

01:31:43.000 That's great.

01:31:43.000 There was this guy that worked at Starbucks.

01:31:48.000 I used to go to this Starbucks every day, and I look at him, and you could immediately see when someone doesn't belong in a certain scenario.

01:31:58.000 You could tell when someone's an outcast.

01:32:00.000 So he was there.

01:32:01.000 He was probably like a 35, 40-something-year-old man, a little overweight, kind of awkward.

01:32:07.000 And at Starbucks, there's always these young, hip, sprightly people.

01:32:10.000 Hey, can I get your order?

01:32:12.000 Hey, what's your name?

01:32:13.000 They write your name wrong, make all these jokes.

01:32:14.000 He kind of stuck out as the person that no one really talked to.

01:32:18.000 So I go there every day.

01:32:19.000 He's awkward.

01:32:20.000 People are just like, you know, whatever.

01:32:21.000 I don't really care about him that much.

01:32:22.000 And you could tell he was not like the others, right?

01:32:25.000 I would see this guy walk home every day, just like a regular guy, but he wasn't cool.

01:32:31.000 He wasn't with it.

01:32:32.000 He worked at Starbucks, lived in an apartment by himself, and This is part of what I wanted to portray to people.

01:32:38.000 There are people that we don't really recognize as people that we just pass every day that are suffering inherently.

01:32:45.000 You know what I mean?

01:32:46.000 He's not like anyone else.

01:32:47.000 He's socially awkward, doesn't have a girlfriend, and he makes minimum wage.

01:32:51.000 So as a guy in this society, as a man in this society, it's hard to...

01:32:56.000 If you can't provide...

01:32:58.000 Right?

01:32:58.000 Right.

01:32:59.000 What are you really doing?

01:33:00.000 You're socially awkward, you can't get a girl, make minimum wage.

01:33:03.000 In today's culture, it's all about who has the most money, what can you do for me type of thing.

01:33:08.000 Right.

01:33:08.000 So if you have like a, for example, I think like five of my friends, six of my friends, they all found their wives when they were either living at home with their parents or in a small apartment, right?

01:33:20.000 It's like, hey, come with me, we'll get married, start a family, live in a nice big house.

01:33:24.000 You never see it go the other way.

01:33:25.000 Who is this awkward guy that makes minimum wage?

01:33:30.000 Who's going to take him and say, hey, listen, let me make something out of you?

01:33:33.000 What's his fate?

01:33:34.000 So as time went on, it was so awkward because I could tell he was uncomfortable.

01:33:41.000 I wanted to approach him and say, hey, what's up, man?

01:33:43.000 Like, what do you say to that?

01:33:44.000 Like, how did two guys become friends?

01:33:46.000 What do I say?

01:33:46.000 Hey, how's it going?

01:33:47.000 Like, how are things?

01:33:48.000 Like, can I talk to you and not come across as weird?

01:33:51.000 That's hard to do that, right?

01:33:52.000 So you just kind of got this in your head just from going to this Starbucks and seeing this guy on a regular basis.

01:33:58.000 Exactly.

01:33:58.000 So I know there's people that are out there that are just quietly suffering.

01:34:01.000 They live alone.

01:34:02.000 Yeah.

01:34:03.000 They don't have any friends, and they're just weird.

01:34:05.000 So one day, I was like, you know what?

01:34:07.000 I'm going to talk to this guy.

01:34:08.000 I'm going to talk to him.

01:34:09.000 Ended up getting a phone call.

01:34:11.000 Didn't end up talking to the guy.

01:34:12.000 I saw him walking home.

01:34:13.000 I live in a small town, so I know where he lived.

01:34:15.000 And I didn't see him for like weeks.

01:34:18.000 Went to Starbucks.

01:34:19.000 Hey, hey, is this guy still here?

01:34:21.000 They're like, no, he left.

01:34:23.000 Turns out, I did some more digging.

01:34:24.000 They found him dead in his apartment.

01:34:26.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:34:27.000 Yeah.

01:34:28.000 When did they find him dead?

01:34:30.000 I looked at the news.

01:34:32.000 I think it was after I stopped seeing him, I think it coincided within three days of that.

01:34:39.000 So did he die of suicide, of an overdose?

01:34:42.000 I have no idea.

01:34:43.000 No idea?

01:34:44.000 No, because they wouldn't...

01:34:45.000 I don't think they would release that because he was like a nobody.

01:34:48.000 They just said they found a body.

01:34:49.000 They wouldn't release the autopsy and say, hey.

01:34:51.000 Jesus.

01:34:52.000 So like, what do you...

01:34:53.000 Maybe he ended it.

01:34:54.000 Maybe.

01:34:55.000 So that's the problem.

01:34:56.000 So I think...

01:34:56.000 I wanted to make something based on...

01:34:58.000 There are people out there like that.

01:35:00.000 You know, men have, what, four times...

01:35:02.000 Higher than women's suicide rates.

01:35:04.000 I want to talk about, hey listen, this is the faceless man.

01:35:06.000 The guy that you never would think of talking to.

01:35:08.000 Everyone's suffering in some way.

01:35:10.000 So I want to do something like that.

01:35:11.000 I think the...

01:35:12.000 What would be the way you would do it though?

01:35:14.000 What would you try to get out of it?

01:35:17.000 That's the hard part.

01:35:18.000 This is the part I've been struggling with for the longest time.

01:35:21.000 I don't know how to end it.

01:35:24.000 Because...

01:35:24.000 He's still him.

01:35:25.000 As much as I want to say...

01:35:26.000 I mean, I'll have other characters.

01:35:28.000 I'll have him in my head.

01:35:29.000 He has a mom.

01:35:30.000 And his mom, you know, she smokes 10 packs a day.

01:35:33.000 Oh, so this is like your screenplay.

01:35:35.000 Yeah, so the actual story of what happened, that is actually true.

01:35:38.000 But me adding the characters, obviously, that's part of my screenplay.

01:35:41.000 So I want to make a story about him because he's a faceless guy.

01:35:44.000 He lives alone.

01:35:46.000 His parents probably passed.

01:35:47.000 If he dies, no one would notice.

01:35:49.000 The biggest thing is this.

01:35:52.000 What story do I tell?

01:35:54.000 Do I tell the story of him passing away and no one noticing?

01:36:00.000 And that's super dark.

01:36:02.000 Because he did die and no one at Starbucks knew.

01:36:05.000 They just thought he didn't show up for work one day.

01:36:08.000 And that's the scary part.

01:36:10.000 Do I tell a story that's based on if you pass away and you're the faceless man, no one would notice?

01:36:16.000 Which is sad, but it's also the reality that a lot of people face.

01:36:21.000 A lot of people.

01:36:22.000 And that's unfortunate.

01:36:23.000 I don't know how to...

01:36:24.000 How do I make that into a happy story?

01:36:26.000 Do I make it into a happy story or do I just tell the truth?

01:36:29.000 Like this man that was suffering by himself...

01:36:32.000 Had no one, and he passed away, and no one knew the difference.

01:36:37.000 How do I make that happy?

01:36:38.000 Do I even tell the story?

01:36:41.000 These are the kind of things that I think about.

01:36:45.000 You know you have this new thing now where influencers are selling their underwear.

01:36:53.000 Actually, one woman sold her bathwater.

01:36:57.000 Seriously, I'm sure you've seen it.

01:36:58.000 Yeah, there's one where a girl was selling farts.

01:37:00.000 She was farting in a jar so much that she actually got her to go to the hospital.

01:37:05.000 But do you believe that?

01:37:06.000 I do.

01:37:07.000 I don't.

01:37:07.000 Because people buy it.

01:37:08.000 The fart thing, no.

01:37:09.000 But the bathwater thing, I absolutely believe.

01:37:12.000 Oh, the bathwater thing, I think, was probably real.

01:37:14.000 But if you're a woman that's willing to sell your farts, you're probably not even really farting in those jars.

01:37:20.000 You're probably not.

01:37:20.000 No, absolutely not.

01:37:21.000 Can you get a fart in a jar?

01:37:22.000 You can't, no.

01:37:23.000 That thing will dissipate.

01:37:24.000 You won't smell shit.

01:37:25.000 She's probably shitting in the jars.

01:37:27.000 But if you fart in a jar, is it possible to seal that bitch up so quickly?

01:37:31.000 No.

01:37:33.000 Most of it would escape.

01:37:34.000 Most of it.

01:37:35.000 Would it be a scent, a possible whiff of a fart?

01:37:38.000 You figure your balloon knot's only so big.

01:37:40.000 I bet if Joey Diaz farted in a jar, you could smell it for years.

01:37:43.000 Like a time capsule.

01:37:45.000 So it depends on what kind of fart.

01:37:47.000 Like even a grown man fart.

01:37:49.000 If it's wet and some liquid falls in there, then yeah, you're fine.

01:37:52.000 Just seal it up.

01:37:53.000 You'll have it for 10 years.

01:37:54.000 But just the air, you do have some air in that jar.

01:37:58.000 Right.

01:37:58.000 If you just seal it real quick.

01:38:01.000 Right.

01:38:01.000 If you fart, especially like, doesn't it rise?

01:38:04.000 It's going to escape, Joe.

01:38:06.000 It's going to escape.

01:38:07.000 It always escapes.

01:38:07.000 It's just air.

01:38:10.000 Yes.

01:38:10.000 But wouldn't some of it stay in the jar?

01:38:13.000 It could be obviously fake, but there's a funny TikTok video where a kid farts in a jar and buries it, and then digs it up a few days later, a week later.

01:38:21.000 How does it smell?

01:38:22.000 Well, everyone he's showing it to gives a bad reaction, but they could just be acting.

01:38:25.000 Yeah.

01:38:26.000 What the heck?

01:38:26.000 I want to know how that ends.

01:38:27.000 You'd actually have to smell it.

01:38:28.000 I might actually do that.

01:38:29.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:38:30.000 But yeah, so they sell the farts in the jar.

01:38:31.000 Right.

01:38:32.000 Influencers.

01:38:33.000 Influencers.

01:38:34.000 And that's what they do.

01:38:37.000 So he would be the faithless man.

01:38:40.000 It sounds weird.

01:38:41.000 And I always had a thing where...

01:38:42.000 Who's the target audience for buying farts in a jar?

01:38:46.000 Who's the target audience...

01:38:47.000 Oh, the fart jar.

01:38:48.000 There's a fart jar to capture your baby's farts for safe, sentimental keeping.

01:38:52.000 For how long?

01:38:53.000 How long does that last?

01:38:54.000 How do you know when your baby's going to fart?

01:38:55.000 I don't know.

01:38:56.000 Just keep that thing annoying your baby?

01:38:58.000 I think this is a real product.

01:39:00.000 What are you, stick it in your...

01:39:01.000 How do you do it?

01:39:03.000 No way.

01:39:04.000 This is a joke.

01:39:05.000 Okay, maybe it is.

01:39:07.000 Is it only baby farts?

01:39:08.000 Like, how do they...

01:39:09.000 Oh, you put it in there.

01:39:11.000 You put it up the butt.

01:39:12.000 Oh, shoot.

01:39:13.000 That's crazy.

01:39:15.000 Yeah.

01:39:15.000 That is...

01:39:16.000 What are you doing to your kid?

01:39:17.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:39:18.000 Fucking weirdo.

01:39:18.000 Well, I guess you could take their temperature at the same time.

01:39:21.000 It's just a clever thing.

01:39:22.000 Yeah.

01:39:23.000 So, yeah, that's it.

01:39:23.000 That's what I want to do.

01:39:24.000 Like, he'd be the target audience for that.

01:39:26.000 So, but why is this loner, this, like, type of outcast person so interesting to you?

01:39:33.000 Because it made me...

01:39:35.000 I felt awful.

01:39:36.000 For him.

01:39:37.000 I felt awful that I didn't...

01:39:39.000 There's some people that are okay being alone.

01:39:42.000 That's fine.

01:39:43.000 If you live home until you're 100 years, that's fine.

01:39:44.000 Some people aren't.

01:39:46.000 And I guess I want to tell the story about the people that aren't really talked about.

01:39:51.000 No one really talks about lonely guys that live by themselves that society considers as outcasts because they don't make enough money to support and take care of a woman or a family.

01:40:00.000 But is that why they're an outcast?

01:40:02.000 Is that the only reason why?

01:40:04.000 Many of them, I'm sure, have social issues and anxiety.

01:40:10.000 But some people, I mean, if you're, you know, body image stuff, if you're kind of awkward, overweight, guy doesn't make much money, It's hard to find that ideal partner in a lot of cases because in today's day and age of social media, everyone paints these images of who they want to be with.

01:40:29.000 That's true.

01:40:30.000 I actually had a question for you.

01:40:33.000 I'll ask you after this.

01:40:34.000 My daughter, for example, she's super young, but she wears a jacket.

01:40:42.000 It's 100 degrees out back in where you live.

01:40:44.000 She wears a jacket where she goes.

01:40:46.000 And even though it's 100 degrees outside, she still has that jacket on because, you know, she's a young girl and her body's changing, right?

01:40:53.000 So the reason why she wears the jacket is because she's so self-conscious about how she looks.

01:40:58.000 Right.

01:40:58.000 And the main issue for that is because of social media and body image expectations, right?

01:41:05.000 That's real.

01:41:06.000 So it's real and it's scary.

01:41:07.000 So my thing is...

01:41:11.000 I think social media is the devil, even though I make money off of it.

01:41:15.000 The thing is, explaining someone's life story like that, like the faceless man, is something I want to portray because I know a lot of people suffer from that.

01:41:24.000 A lot of people have issues.

01:41:25.000 And they're looked at as society's outcasts.

01:41:28.000 I'm sure you pass by people every day.

01:41:29.000 They're just like, oh yeah, whatever.

01:41:31.000 It's mostly the fact that I think everyone is suffering in some way.

01:41:34.000 A lot of people are suffering.

01:41:35.000 And you never really know.

01:41:37.000 I mean, people like, he could be the happiest guy in the world, and you could be gone.

01:41:41.000 Like Robin Williams, for example.

01:41:43.000 Super happy guy, but it's just like you know.

01:41:45.000 Yeah, but he had like a serious issue.

01:41:48.000 He had the thing called Lewy body syndrome, right?

01:41:50.000 He also had a heart attack and because of the heart attack he was under he had open-heart surgery and when you have Long-term anesthesia like right multiple hours of anesthesia a lot of times your hormonal system is completely disrupted and a lot of people become very depressed after that and those are stories that Those are things that the average person wouldn't know.

01:42:11.000 They see him as the happiest guy in the world.

01:42:13.000 They would pass him, hey, this is a happy guy.

01:42:15.000 He's a movie star.

01:42:15.000 This is awesome.

01:42:16.000 He's doing great.

01:42:17.000 But everyone's suffering from something that isn't always in the public eye, is what I'm saying.

01:42:22.000 The thing about a guy who's working at Starbucks, it's like when you're working and you're making a very small amount of money, barely enough to take care of yourself, if there's a thing you want to do other than that, how do you even do it?

01:42:38.000 How do you get out of that hole?

01:42:39.000 How do you get out of that hole?

01:42:40.000 Because you're check to check every week.

01:42:43.000 Right.

01:42:44.000 Even my daughter, for example, when she gets out, she's going to make great money, I'm sure.

01:42:50.000 But dude, you know how much houses cost.

01:42:52.000 Houses are ridiculous and getting worse.

01:42:54.000 How do you break that cycle?

01:42:56.000 If you make minimum wage, how do you break the cycle and get into something?

01:43:00.000 Because a lot of women are lucky in the sense that, hey, if you're attractive and you're nice and sweet, some guy will pick you up.

01:43:09.000 But do you want to rely on that?

01:43:11.000 No, you don't.

01:43:12.000 You could get lucky and meet a great guy.

01:43:14.000 Right.

01:43:14.000 Or you could meet some abusive piece of shit.

01:43:16.000 Right, exactly.

01:43:17.000 Or someone who steals from you.

01:43:18.000 But there is an option.

01:43:20.000 They do have, hey, someone's going to say, hey, look, you're kind of cute.

01:43:22.000 You could either go one way or the other.

01:43:23.000 That guy has no choice.

01:43:24.000 Right.

01:43:24.000 No one's coming for him.

01:43:26.000 He's not going to find a gigolo.

01:43:27.000 Right.

01:43:28.000 Probably not.

01:43:29.000 He's not going to find, well, a gigolo's a hooker, a male sugar daddy.

01:43:33.000 Who's he going to find?

01:43:35.000 Maybe.

01:43:36.000 That's his only option.

01:43:37.000 Or a female sugar daddy.

01:43:39.000 Sugar mama.

01:43:40.000 What is he going to do?

01:43:41.000 What does he want to do?

01:43:42.000 What did he wish he would do?

01:43:44.000 What led him to be there in the first place?

01:43:46.000 But that's a depressing ass story.

01:43:48.000 So how do I end it?

01:43:50.000 I need your help, Joe.

01:43:50.000 How do I end that story on a good note that tells a message?

01:43:52.000 You can end it right here and right now and don't do it.

01:43:54.000 There you go.

01:43:58.000 It's an uncomfortable reality of people.

01:44:00.000 But that's the story I want to tell.

01:44:02.000 You know how this happens all the time where your mom will say, oh, you're so attractive, honey.

01:44:06.000 You're going to find someone?

01:44:08.000 And they always give you that false sense of security like, oh, my mom said it.

01:44:11.000 I'm sure it's going to be fine.

01:44:12.000 Someone might gas you up and have a yes man that says, hey, you're going to be okay.

01:44:15.000 Guess what, Joe?

01:44:16.000 Some people aren't okay.

01:44:17.000 No, a lot of people aren't okay.

01:44:18.000 Some people are lied to incessantly to make themselves feel better or the person saying it feel better.

01:44:24.000 But a lot of people aren't going to be okay.

01:44:25.000 Also what you're talking about with social media, you're dealing with the expectations of a lot of people that what they're putting out is not even accurate.

01:44:33.000 Right.

01:44:33.000 So you're judging yourself by an inaccurate depiction of other people's supposedly happy lives where they might be a fucking mess.

01:44:40.000 Exactly.

01:44:41.000 I mean, so many people, what they want to put out on social media, they want to pretend that everything's hunky-dory and their life's amazing.

01:44:48.000 Absolutely.

01:44:48.000 You've seen those memes of girls that are pretending to be on these vacations and you see the guys who are paying for the vacations.

01:44:56.000 Yeah, it's like some old guy.

01:44:58.000 It's like some big fat guy.

01:45:00.000 It's tough, man.

01:45:01.000 I mean, I wish I know the conversation took a turn for sure, but I think about that stuff.

01:45:06.000 There's a happy side.

01:45:07.000 I mean, there's the dark side that thinks, People out there that don't have it so good.

01:45:11.000 Well, you're a nice guy, Rich.

01:45:12.000 You're a sensitive guy, and you're thinking about these people that are fucked.

01:45:15.000 I'm a sensitive man.

01:45:16.000 Those people are fucked, and that is a hard situation to get out of.

01:45:22.000 Yeah, it's a hard reality.

01:45:23.000 You'd have to know the person, know what's wrong.

01:45:26.000 How did it go wrong?

01:45:27.000 What do you want to do?

01:45:29.000 What do you wish you were doing?

01:45:30.000 How'd you get to this spot in the first place?

01:45:32.000 What are your options?

01:45:33.000 That's the thing.

01:45:34.000 I think we're lucky in the sense that Right now, we could say, what do you want to do?

01:45:38.000 You can do whatever you want to do, Joe.

01:45:40.000 Yeah.

01:45:40.000 Do whatever you want.

01:45:41.000 So, some people, it's like comedy.

01:45:45.000 Even if you work your ass off, after 10 years, you can still be in the same spot.

01:45:50.000 So, you working hard has no correlation between working hard and success, which is unfortunate.

01:45:56.000 Well, you have to think hard, and then you have to come up with actual real solutions to very complex problems.

01:46:01.000 Right.

01:46:02.000 That's life.

01:46:04.000 Life is not It's just about working hard.

01:46:06.000 You can work hard as a laborer and be poor and die.

01:46:09.000 Right.

01:46:09.000 You can lay bricks all day.

01:46:11.000 All day and then one day your body stops working.

01:46:13.000 And that's also real.

01:46:16.000 Or you could start a masonry company and start doing well and hire employees and do a good job and meticulous work and be known for it and develop a reputation and have a nice business.

01:46:27.000 Have fucking barbecues and cookouts and your family comes over and then you live your life.

01:46:33.000 Absolutely.

01:46:33.000 And you have a great life.

01:46:34.000 Right.

01:46:34.000 But what is the difference between the person who just stays a laborer and the person who figures out how to start their own company?

01:46:40.000 And there's a lot of variables in there.

01:46:42.000 Right.

01:46:43.000 Decisions and...

01:46:44.000 Some people don't have it in them, too.

01:46:45.000 I think the unfortunate part is that not everyone could be a CEO. Right.

01:46:50.000 Some people are just workers.

01:46:52.000 That sucks.

01:46:53.000 Yeah.

01:46:53.000 We don't want to say that because you want to say everyone can make it.

01:46:57.000 That's the problem we're in right now, though, Joe.

01:46:59.000 It's like, oh, yeah, you're going to be fine.

01:47:00.000 You're the most handsomest boy in the world.

01:47:02.000 You're going to find a great girl.

01:47:03.000 Guess what?

01:47:04.000 Mom died.

01:47:05.000 Didn't find a girl yet.

01:47:05.000 He's 50 years old.

01:47:06.000 Yeah.

01:47:07.000 Thanks, Mom.

01:47:08.000 Yeah.

01:47:08.000 Everyone, there's participation trophies and there's multiple ways of people feeling better about themselves.

01:47:14.000 But sometimes there's hard truths that, hey, listen, these things might not happen for you.

01:47:19.000 Right.

01:47:20.000 What do you concentrate on, though?

01:47:22.000 I mean, and these people with these hard truths.

01:47:24.000 I mean, a hard truth person in America is probably way better off than the average person that's living in a third world country.

01:47:31.000 Absolutely.

01:47:32.000 Which is even more fucked.

01:47:33.000 I know.

01:47:33.000 Well, when you find out that, when you look at the number, when you say the 1%, if you make $34,000 a year, you're in the 1% of the world.

01:47:43.000 Really?

01:47:44.000 Yeah.

01:47:45.000 Yeah.

01:47:45.000 Well, how about the US? What's the 1% in the United States?

01:47:49.000 That's a good question.

01:47:50.000 I don't know what it is.

01:47:51.000 Let's guess.

01:47:51.000 Let's take a guess.

01:47:52.000 You want to say it's like...

01:47:53.000 You think it's like 200 grand?

01:47:55.000 What do you think it is?

01:47:56.000 I think it's like...

01:47:56.000 What's the number?

01:47:58.000 Like 250. 250?

01:47:59.000 Maybe, yeah.

01:48:00.000 So...

01:48:01.000 That's incredible, Joe.

01:48:02.000 Yeah.

01:48:03.000 Well, let's say 250. Yeah.

01:48:06.000 Let's say 250. What do you think it is, Jamie?

01:48:08.000 If you had a guess.

01:48:09.000 I have a feeling Jamie's looking it up right now.

01:48:10.000 I'm looking it up.

01:48:11.000 I haven't hit the enter button yet.

01:48:13.000 That's probably close to that.

01:48:15.000 Maybe even higher.

01:48:16.000 Okay, let's see what a 1% is in the United States of America.

01:48:19.000 Top 1% of income maker.

01:48:21.000 Yeah.

01:48:21.000 I was going to say 400 just to be different, but it's higher than that even.

01:48:24.000 Really?

01:48:25.000 Half a million?

01:48:26.000 It says almost 600K. Wow.

01:48:27.000 Wait, wait.

01:48:28.000 Is it a single?

01:48:29.000 How many family?

01:48:30.000 How many people in the home?

01:48:31.000 American Family.

01:48:32.000 I don't know.

01:48:33.000 Oh, okay.

01:48:34.000 So that would be a husband and a wife.

01:48:35.000 Okay.

01:48:36.000 According to a recent study, finance website SmartAsset, an American family needed to earn $597,815 in 2021 to be in the top 1% nationally.

01:48:47.000 Okay, but how big is that family?

01:48:48.000 You could have a family of like 30 people living in the same...

01:48:51.000 No, I think it's like two people.

01:48:53.000 I think it's like a husband and wife or a husband and a husband or a wife and a wife, right?

01:48:58.000 Income inequality.

01:48:59.000 Top 1% of the U.S. what they make.

01:49:00.000 That says $350,000.

01:49:05.000 Oh, 538. Okay, so it's pretty close.

01:49:08.000 So household income is 201, individual is 129. This one says, yeah, single earners, $357,000.

01:49:15.000 Wow.

01:49:16.000 Okay, so $357,000 for a single earner.

01:49:20.000 That is a fucking great job.

01:49:21.000 That's a lot of money.

01:49:22.000 That's a lot of money to be in the top.

01:49:24.000 But, you know, 1%.

01:49:27.000 Of the world.

01:49:28.000 There's a lot of people in the United States, too.

01:49:29.000 Right.

01:49:31.000 But in the world, though, it's 34,000.

01:49:34.000 Really?

01:49:35.000 Yeah, 34,000.

01:49:36.000 That's how bad the rest of the world has it.

01:49:38.000 Well, you can average.

01:49:39.000 Weren't there some people that used to want to live on the beach in, like, Taiwan or something for, like, $29 a month?

01:49:45.000 Yeah.

01:49:45.000 Some people don't want to be a 1%er.

01:49:47.000 They just want to relax.

01:49:48.000 They just want peace and nature.

01:49:50.000 You know, there's a lot of people that that's what they want.

01:49:52.000 Or you want to be, like, a subsistence person.

01:49:55.000 You just want a plot of land that you can...

01:49:56.000 Live off the...

01:49:57.000 Eat berries all day.

01:49:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:49:58.000 You fucking grow your own vegetables and...

01:50:01.000 Have regenerative farming and composting, and I don't know how they make money, but, you know.

01:50:07.000 Maybe buy a Tesla or something.

01:50:09.000 Save the world.

01:50:10.000 Their net worth is over $11 million, though.

01:50:13.000 That's quite a bit higher than earning.

01:50:16.000 So is there any actual truth to this at all?

01:50:18.000 11 million net worth.

01:50:20.000 So that means like your house and the stuff you have and stocks and shit.

01:50:24.000 But that makes sense.

01:50:25.000 So if you're making $600,000 a year, that like, you know, you've been working for 30 years, you might have some assets.

01:50:36.000 10%, 2%.

01:50:37.000 That's a lot of fucking money.

01:50:38.000 So I'm probably like, let me see.

01:50:39.000 So 10% is 1.2 million.

01:50:42.000 I'm probably a good, like maybe 30% or so.

01:50:44.000 So I'm up there.

01:50:45.000 I'll get there.

01:50:47.000 Yeah.

01:50:49.000 Joe, what is the one thing, the one tangible thing that you could remove from this world that would instantly make it a better place?

01:50:59.000 What do you think that thing is?

01:51:01.000 You could remove one thing.

01:51:02.000 It can't be a feeling or a little happiness or world hunger.

01:51:05.000 Tangible.

01:51:06.000 That's a good question.

01:51:07.000 Where would you go?

01:51:08.000 Would you go with environmental?

01:51:09.000 Would you go with murder?

01:51:11.000 Would you go with war?

01:51:12.000 What would you go with?

01:51:14.000 I'm probably going to get crucified for this, Joe, but I think guns.

01:51:18.000 Guns?

01:51:19.000 So I have guns, right?

01:51:21.000 Here's the thing.

01:51:23.000 I wonder when you think about wars and shootings and things like that, would not having any of those weapons of destruction actually help things?

01:51:32.000 Do you know what the Mongols did without guns?

01:51:34.000 Oh, all kinds of disgusting things.

01:51:35.000 They killed 10% of the world's population during the Genghis Khan's life.

01:51:39.000 But like in modern times though, what would people that aren't soldiers, yeah, people that aren't soldiers in modern times, would there be no more mass shootings?

01:51:49.000 There would also be no more police protection.

01:51:54.000 But it would force people to know how to fight.

01:51:57.000 You'd be in fisticuffs left and right.

01:51:59.000 People would go to the...

01:52:01.000 Oh, poor thing.

01:52:02.000 Poor Americans getting in shape.

01:52:03.000 Could you imagine, Joe?

01:52:04.000 That'd be terrible.

01:52:05.000 And even if you learn how to fight, there's like physical limitations.

01:52:08.000 The gun is a great equalizer where a 90-pound woman can shoot a 300-pound man and kill him because he's trying to get her.

01:52:14.000 True.

01:52:14.000 But if we...

01:52:15.000 I think at a larger scale.

01:52:18.000 Aren't there some countries that don't allow guns?

01:52:21.000 I think the UK and England, for example.

01:52:23.000 Yeah, it's very hard to get a gun in England.

01:52:25.000 Yeah, I mean, I think you can get some sort of a hunting rifle.

01:52:28.000 Right.

01:52:29.000 So what's most of their violence based on?

01:52:31.000 Knives.

01:52:31.000 Nice.

01:52:32.000 A lot of stabbings.

01:52:32.000 Getting stabbings up.

01:52:33.000 Are there mass stabbings, though?

01:52:35.000 Can you stab, like, 38 people?

01:52:37.000 I guess you could if you were on a subway and you just went ham.

01:52:40.000 Right.

01:52:40.000 Better than a gun, though.

01:52:42.000 Okay, I'm not saying it's bad, but I'm wondering what thing could you remove to make it better.

01:52:45.000 Would that make it a better place?

01:52:47.000 Would it not?

01:52:48.000 It would make it a better place for the people that didn't get shot.

01:52:50.000 Right.

01:52:50.000 But isn't it really like what is causing a person to do that?

01:52:55.000 And would that eliminate that?

01:52:56.000 Because when you think about a mass shooter, like a mass shooter is when you were talking about your Starbucks employee, I was like, maybe that guy's a mass shooter.

01:53:04.000 He's probably going to shoot the place up at some point, right?

01:53:05.000 A lot of those folks are the ones that are like disenfranchised from society and severely depressed and angry and lash out at the world.

01:53:14.000 But is it better for them to lash out with their fists, though?

01:53:18.000 I don't think they would.

01:53:19.000 No, they wouldn't.

01:53:20.000 Because they're probably not in shape either.

01:53:21.000 Yeah, they would get killed by other people.

01:53:24.000 Right.

01:53:24.000 I mean, I don't know if that...

01:53:26.000 I wondered that for days now.

01:53:29.000 Would that make the world a better place?

01:53:32.000 People would obviously find something else to mess each other up with.

01:53:35.000 You probably would have less food too, though.

01:53:38.000 Because you wouldn't be able to hunt food.

01:53:40.000 You'd have to use a born arrow, Joe.

01:53:42.000 You could use that.

01:53:43.000 Use an arrow to cut elk.

01:53:46.000 Launch like three arrows in them.

01:53:48.000 Four arrows.

01:53:49.000 You gotta get close.

01:53:50.000 Yeah.

01:53:51.000 It's not that easy.

01:53:53.000 No, it's not.

01:53:53.000 I think the gun thing...

01:53:55.000 If you could eliminate gun violence from the world...

01:53:59.000 Oh, that's easy.

01:54:00.000 Yeah, of course.

01:54:01.000 That would be an amazing thing.

01:54:03.000 Did you know that more people die from 2020 from sticking things up their ass than died from AR-15s?

01:54:12.000 Really?

01:54:13.000 I believe that.

01:54:14.000 Yeah, it's a fact.

01:54:15.000 You know what?

01:54:16.000 Not a funny story, but a story.

01:54:19.000 I have a friend that's a nurse, and a man came with a chicken.

01:54:24.000 And the chicken was on his lap, and the chicken was going apeshit, right, in the waiting area.

01:54:29.000 Because the chicken was stuck on his dick.

01:54:31.000 Exactly.

01:54:32.000 Yeah.

01:54:33.000 I knew that was coming.

01:54:34.000 Because I know men.

01:54:35.000 I know.

01:54:36.000 Is it a warm hole?

01:54:37.000 I'll take it.

01:54:38.000 Yeah, right.

01:54:38.000 That's so gross.

01:54:39.000 That's the thing.

01:54:40.000 Well, here's the fun part.

01:54:42.000 What do you think happened to the chicken?

01:54:45.000 Well, how did he get all the way to the emergency room?

01:54:47.000 Like, how much did he want to keep this chicken alive?

01:54:49.000 Well, he probably couldn't get it off.

01:54:50.000 Once that chicken clenches up on that thing.

01:54:53.000 Oh, my God.

01:54:54.000 Yeah.

01:54:54.000 When if you kill the chicken, the chicken would relax?

01:54:57.000 So here's the thing.

01:54:58.000 So they went there, and she's like, well, we're not a vet.

01:55:01.000 We don't have the tools to sedate this chicken.

01:55:05.000 So I think they gave it a very small dose of a sedative to go to a human.

01:55:10.000 Gave it to the chicken.

01:55:11.000 Chicken died.

01:55:12.000 Wow.

01:55:13.000 Didn't make it.

01:55:14.000 That's the sad part.

01:55:15.000 But I had so many questions.

01:55:16.000 What happens to the chicken locker?

01:55:18.000 It did not surpass AR rifle check in 2020?

01:55:22.000 That's what this says.

01:55:23.000 Okay, what does it say here?

01:55:24.000 2020, there were 287 cases of people dying by putting foreign objects in their anus.

01:55:30.000 That's a lot.

01:55:30.000 So that's not true?

01:55:32.000 This is the post that looked like on Facebook at the time of the writing.

01:55:35.000 And what is the actual number of people that died from things in their butt?

01:55:39.000 Well, that wasn't that.

01:55:40.000 It was more people died from a rifle.

01:55:42.000 I don't know.

01:55:42.000 Yeah, but that's 2015 to 2019. That's four years.

01:55:46.000 If it was 250 people a year, that would be like the same amount or close to it.

01:55:50.000 They couldn't get the data for the years they tried.

01:55:52.000 Hold on a second.

01:55:53.000 Include AR and other assault survivors.

01:55:56.000 Lead story efforts to reach FBI for 2020 data were unsuccessful.

01:55:59.000 So they don't have the information.

01:56:00.000 They don't have the information, but if you're looking at 2015, 16, 17, 18, and 19, that's five years of total number of people killed.

01:56:10.000 Was 1,500, yeah.

01:56:11.000 Was 1,500.

01:56:12.000 And you had one year, 300. Yeah.

01:56:13.000 For anal deaths.

01:56:16.000 That would be close, but what are the actual numbers of people that have died by putting things in their ass?

01:56:23.000 That's what it was.

01:56:24.000 320. It's actually 287 cases of people dying?

01:56:27.000 Yeah.

01:56:28.000 The crazy part is, who writes this down?

01:56:30.000 Is that like a cause of death, anus, you know what I mean?

01:56:32.000 That's the amazing part.

01:56:34.000 So this is definitely wrong in terms of how many people have been killed by ARs in the last five years.

01:56:39.000 What I had seen was a one-year thing.

01:56:41.000 So in 2020, there was 287 cases of people dying by putting foreign objects in their butt.

01:56:48.000 But when you look at people that have been killed by rifles, it was how many people?

01:56:52.000 Why don't you just ask, how many people were killed in 2020 by rifles?

01:56:55.000 But here's the other thing.

01:56:56.000 When it says, okay, according to FBI, murder by rifle...

01:57:03.000 The total number for those five years was 1,573 people.

01:57:09.000 Rifle is a statistical category that includes AR and other assault-style rifles.

01:57:16.000 But like...

01:57:17.000 It also says they reached out to a board-certified colorectal surgeon, and he doesn't know of a database that can use a number of...

01:57:24.000 Yeah, that's what I was asking.

01:57:25.000 How does he even know?

01:57:26.000 That's amazing.

01:57:27.000 Yeah, that could be just a fake meme that somebody just wrote down.

01:57:30.000 Right.

01:57:31.000 I know people have definitely died from stuff up their butt, and people have definitely died from ARs.

01:57:36.000 But I think that...

01:57:37.000 You know people have died from stuff up their butt?

01:57:38.000 Really?

01:57:39.000 Like, know them?

01:57:39.000 No, I know that it's real.

01:57:41.000 Oh, okay.

01:57:41.000 That's pretty cool.

01:57:42.000 I had a buddy of mine.

01:57:43.000 I had a buddy of mine that was a surgeon.

01:57:45.000 He was an ophthalmologist, actually, and he did his residency in Miami during the cocaine days of the 80s.

01:57:50.000 And he said they were always getting people with G.I. Joe dolls, light bulbs, all kinds of stuff stuffed up their pubs.

01:57:57.000 Why?

01:57:58.000 Why the light bulb?

01:57:58.000 Like, pleasure?

01:58:00.000 I think people do things to hurt themselves.

01:58:03.000 Like, there's a video that I saw once, unfortunately, called One Guy, One Jar.

01:58:10.000 Oh, I saw it.

01:58:10.000 Oh, Joe, don't say that.

01:58:12.000 Yeah.

01:58:12.000 The jar broke.

01:58:14.000 Yeah, I couldn't do that.

01:58:15.000 Never watched that again.

01:58:16.000 Why did that guy do that?

01:58:17.000 What kind of pain was he in?

01:58:19.000 What kind of psychological?

01:58:21.000 Maybe it was the guy from Starbucks.

01:58:23.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:58:24.000 Yeah, poor guy.

01:58:25.000 Why?

01:58:25.000 Why would someone do that?

01:58:27.000 Why would someone put a G.I. Joe doll up their ass?

01:58:29.000 Why would someone fuck a chicken?

01:58:31.000 What's wrong with people?

01:58:32.000 The chicken I kind of understand.

01:58:33.000 It might be better to come up with a screenplay for the backstory of someone on your mom's house videos.

01:58:38.000 Like, just pick a video, come up with a story on that guy.

01:58:41.000 Well, have you ever seen the documentary Zoo?

01:58:43.000 No.

01:58:44.000 Well, it's about people that have an attraction to animals.

01:58:48.000 Oh, God.

01:58:49.000 There was a guy who died in Seattle, in Washington State, in, like, the early 2000s, and he died getting fucked to death by a horse.

01:58:59.000 Jesus.

01:59:00.000 I mean, you only laugh.

01:59:02.000 Horses are hung.

01:59:03.000 Yeah, but this guy had been fucked a bunch of times by horses.

01:59:07.000 Multiple horses?

01:59:07.000 Or just like a gang gang?

01:59:08.000 Bunch of different horses.

01:59:10.000 How do you train the horses?

01:59:12.000 What happened was, there was like this online group.

01:59:16.000 I think it's called zoofilia.

01:59:17.000 That's the psychological condition.

01:59:21.000 What an image, huh?

01:59:23.000 This is the documentary about the guy, but the video is called...

01:59:26.000 Oh, the guy's in his eyes.

01:59:27.000 Oh God, I don't know about this.

01:59:29.000 Is that a reflection of a man in his eyes?

01:59:31.000 A naked man?

01:59:32.000 The video is called Mr. Hands, and you can find Mr. Hands, the video online, and you can actually see this man get fucked by a horse.

01:59:41.000 And, uh, so what happened was, they brought this guy into the emergency room, and the doctor's like, um, what the fuck happened?

01:59:48.000 He had no organs left, pretty much, yeah, at that point.

01:59:50.000 He got blown out, and this, uh, investigation was opened.

01:59:55.000 Oh, no.

01:59:55.000 What an image.

01:59:56.000 Thank you, Jamie.

01:59:57.000 Yikes.

01:59:58.000 Thank you very much.

01:59:59.000 Whoa.

02:00:01.000 Yeah.

02:00:02.000 So, Mr. Hands, that's just to show how a horse's anatomy compares.

02:00:10.000 What a strange image placement for that.

02:00:14.000 So, the guy died and then they made this documentary called Zoo.

02:00:19.000 The documentary is very interesting because it's about a real group of people.

02:00:24.000 That one of them, they met online, and one guy had a farm.

02:00:27.000 Yeah.

02:00:27.000 And so they invited all these other people who were also into getting fucked by animals onto this farm, and then they filmed it.

02:00:33.000 And they had hundreds of hours of people having sex with animals.

02:00:37.000 Yeah.

02:00:37.000 Because in Washington State, I think up until the time when this happened...

02:00:41.000 That was okay, right?

02:00:42.000 It was legal.

02:00:42.000 Yeah.

02:00:43.000 Yeah, there was like only a couple states where you're allowed to fuck animals.

02:00:46.000 Go Washington.

02:00:47.000 Thank you.

02:00:48.000 Jeez, for closing that loophole.

02:00:49.000 Freedom.

02:00:50.000 America.

02:00:50.000 Freedom.

02:00:51.000 That's the guy?

02:00:52.000 Yeah.

02:00:53.000 Kenneth...

02:00:54.000 How do you say that name?

02:00:57.000 Pinyon.

02:00:59.000 A Boeing aircraft engineer.

02:01:02.000 Oh my goodness.

02:01:03.000 You had a life for you.

02:01:03.000 He died from injuries sustained, received from during anal sex with a stallion.

02:01:09.000 I like how it says stallion.

02:01:10.000 Why is it all caps?

02:01:11.000 Yeah, right.

02:01:12.000 During the sex act...

02:01:14.000 Filmed by Pal, I like that it says Pal, James Tate, Pinyan suffered a perforated colon from being shafted by the horse and later died from it.

02:01:25.000 Prosecutors determined that the horse had not been injured by being allowed to engage in sex in this manner.

02:01:32.000 According to the medical examiner's office, Pinyan died of acute peritonitis due to perforation of the colon.

02:01:43.000 Yeah, it was ruled accidental.

02:01:44.000 How is that accidental?

02:01:45.000 Well, he said he refused to go to the hospital for several hours.

02:01:50.000 Yeah, he's like, I'm fine.

02:01:52.000 I'm good.

02:01:53.000 That's the thing.

02:01:54.000 So Kenneth, right?

02:01:56.000 Yes.

02:01:56.000 And his friend James filmed it.

02:01:58.000 How do they...

02:01:59.000 Two guys just having a conversation in a room.

02:02:02.000 How did James know that Kenneth was into that?

02:02:04.000 I think they met online.

02:02:05.000 I think they met in a forum.

02:02:06.000 Like a horse chat room?

02:02:08.000 A horse fucking chat room.

02:02:09.000 God, there's horse fucking chat rooms?

02:02:11.000 There's probably everything.

02:02:12.000 That's crazy.

02:02:13.000 Jamie, can you find one?

02:02:14.000 I'm sure.

02:02:15.000 I bet if you go to Reddit, they can steer you in that direction.

02:02:18.000 Oh, Reddit has everything, right.

02:02:20.000 They could probably, like, let you know that these things are real.

02:02:22.000 I think it's a psychological disorder, where people are...

02:02:26.000 Want to hurt themselves, yeah.

02:02:27.000 They also want to get fucked by animals.

02:02:30.000 Like, specifically animals.

02:02:31.000 Just find, like, a hung black guy or something.

02:02:33.000 I don't think it's...

02:02:35.000 I don't think it's the person wanting to fuck an animal.

02:02:38.000 I think it's the animal.

02:02:39.000 They want this animal to fuck them.

02:02:42.000 Right.

02:02:42.000 Like, well, there's a lot of women that have been...

02:02:44.000 Like, wasn't that Marie Antoinette?

02:02:46.000 Who's the woman that, like, died from getting fucked by a horse?

02:02:50.000 There was, like, a famous...

02:02:51.000 Or maybe it was just...

02:02:51.000 I didn't know.

02:02:52.000 Is this, like, a...

02:02:52.000 There's more than one of them?

02:02:53.000 There's, like, multiple people, I'm assuming.

02:02:55.000 There was like a famous historical royalty person.

02:03:01.000 Was it accidental?

02:03:02.000 Or was it like, whoa.

02:03:02.000 It might not have even been real.

02:03:03.000 It was a story of Catherine the Great.

02:03:05.000 Catherine the Great, that's right.

02:03:06.000 Supposedly, I don't know.

02:03:08.000 This says she did not...

02:03:10.000 Yeah, wow.

02:03:11.000 That sucks.

02:03:13.000 Somebody has been.

02:03:14.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:03:14.000 That guy definitely has been.

02:03:16.000 Right, Kenneth.

02:03:16.000 Probably a lot of people.

02:03:17.000 Poor Kenneth.

02:03:18.000 All throughout history have been fucked to death by horses.

02:03:20.000 Right.

02:03:20.000 It's probably not an uncommon thing.

02:03:23.000 Maybe a zebra or a giraffe or something.

02:03:25.000 Boy, you gotta get a zebra relaxed.

02:03:28.000 Yeah, they buck like crazy.

02:03:30.000 They don't want to stay in a stable.

02:03:31.000 They're wild.

02:03:32.000 Right.

02:03:32.000 You can't hold them down.

02:03:34.000 But there's...

02:03:35.000 I don't know why we brought this up.

02:03:37.000 I guess it's like the loner, sad type person.

02:03:41.000 How did we get here?

02:03:41.000 You know, the human mind is a weird, pliable, flexible, and really unpredictable thing.

02:03:50.000 Right.

02:03:50.000 People like all kinds of shit.

02:03:53.000 You take a baby.

02:03:54.000 With their genetics, and then a lot of life experiences, a lot of trauma, a lot of this, and then what does it wind up at 54?

02:04:02.000 Well, this guy winds up getting fucked by a horse.

02:04:04.000 Kenneth, I'll always remember that name for some reason.

02:04:06.000 Some people, they're doing crack in the back parking lot of McDonald's.

02:04:10.000 Right.

02:04:10.000 It's like, what causes that guy to be the Starbucks employee that's alone and dies in his apartment and nobody misses him?

02:04:18.000 Right.

02:04:18.000 What causes that guy to get fucked to death by a horse?

02:04:20.000 Who knows, man.

02:04:21.000 There's got to be some imbalance.

02:04:22.000 I feel like the guy at Starbucks...

02:04:24.000 Is a normal guy?

02:04:25.000 And I feel like the guy that wants to get railed by a horse and killed by it eventually is...

02:04:29.000 I don't think he's all there.

02:04:31.000 Is he a normal guy?

02:04:31.000 Meanwhile, he's an engineer.

02:04:32.000 He's a Boeing engineer!

02:04:34.000 Yeah.

02:04:34.000 So meanwhile, he's like designing planes and shit.

02:04:36.000 That's gotta be a black mark for Boeing, though.

02:04:38.000 According to the story, they found hundreds of hours of tape seized.

02:04:43.000 Yeah.

02:04:45.000 That's what I said.

02:04:45.000 Whose horse was it?

02:04:46.000 Oh, sorry I missed that part.

02:04:47.000 Can you just get a horse?

02:04:49.000 Yeah.

02:04:50.000 Hundreds of hours of tapes.

02:04:51.000 You blocked that out.

02:04:51.000 Yeah.

02:04:52.000 It's a trauma.

02:04:53.000 I think they had a lot of people coming over.

02:04:55.000 Well, it says it was just these two guys.

02:04:58.000 What?

02:04:59.000 Just these two guys?

02:05:00.000 It says it's frequented by men who engage in sex acts with animals.

02:05:06.000 Boeing must be pissed.

02:05:07.000 Like, come on, man.

02:05:07.000 There's one of 17 states where it was allowed at the time.

02:05:09.000 Yeah, Boeing would like us to shut the fuck up about this.

02:05:11.000 Yeah, seriously.

02:05:11.000 Boeing will come and cease and desist pretty soon.

02:05:13.000 Hey, I would stop.

02:05:14.000 Yeah, I guess you're right.

02:05:15.000 Stop talking.

02:05:16.000 Yeah, please.

02:05:17.000 Yeah.

02:05:17.000 Internet chat rooms of people who want to have sex with livestock.

02:05:21.000 Livestock specifically?

02:05:22.000 So it's like sheep, it's not farm animals.

02:05:24.000 Well, I think that's the only animals you can get to fuck you.

02:05:26.000 Like, you know, it's probably a wild animal.

02:05:29.000 You can't even get them to sit still.

02:05:30.000 That and they're well-endowed, too.

02:05:31.000 Horses are pretty well...

02:05:32.000 You could train a horse pretty well.

02:05:33.000 A zebra, good luck.

02:05:34.000 You can't train, not when he's trying to fuck you.

02:05:37.000 If you watch the video, it's horrific.

02:05:39.000 Really?

02:05:39.000 Yeah, because it just, you look at the, the dick is as long as my arm, and then you look at his body, and you do the math.

02:05:45.000 You're like, where's it going?

02:05:45.000 By his mouth.

02:05:46.000 And it just goes, right up there, and the guy makes a noise that you only make when you're getting fucked to death by a horse.

02:05:53.000 There's a, damn!

02:05:54.000 Yeah.

02:05:54.000 Look, you can't fake that sound.

02:05:55.000 Thanks for repeating that, Joe.

02:05:57.000 I appreciate that.

02:05:57.000 You're pretty good at it.

02:05:58.000 You have the engine sounds down.

02:06:00.000 You're pretty good, Joe.

02:06:00.000 Thank you.

02:06:01.000 Nice.

02:06:01.000 Talented.

02:06:02.000 Yeah.

02:06:03.000 Multifaceted.

02:06:03.000 That's why I'm here, not working at Starbucks.

02:06:06.000 Right.

02:06:07.000 It's a sad life.

02:06:09.000 Yeah.

02:06:09.000 Some people, they'll look, man, that's the unfortunate reality of human existence, right?

02:06:14.000 The study did have a, I mean, it was obvious, but...

02:06:16.000 Duh.

02:06:17.000 Yeah.

02:06:17.000 He's mentally ill.

02:06:19.000 Duh.

02:06:19.000 Yeah.

02:06:20.000 He states that bestiality or zoophilia Like other paraphilias, nonstandard sexual desires and practices, is a diagnosable disorder if it causes clinically significant stress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

02:06:37.000 He had a whole-ass job as an engineer.

02:06:38.000 That's not an engineer for Boeing.

02:06:40.000 Right.

02:06:41.000 You think he planted some horse penises on the plane every once in a while?

02:06:44.000 Probably not.

02:06:45.000 He's probably sticking to his job, and then he'd get off work and just look for something to fill that hole.

02:06:50.000 No pun intended.

02:06:51.000 Hey, Kenneth, you want to hang out?

02:06:52.000 No, I got something to do later.

02:06:53.000 I got somewhere for you at home.

02:06:54.000 I just like to be around animals.

02:06:56.000 I got a lot going on.

02:06:57.000 The guy's just really into nature.

02:06:59.000 Right.

02:06:59.000 So you bought a horse, Kenneth?

02:07:00.000 That's kind of cool.

02:07:01.000 What, are you going to ride it?

02:07:02.000 Nope.

02:07:02.000 I don't think it was even their horse.

02:07:04.000 I think it was someone else's horse.

02:07:05.000 So I think the guy who brought him to the hospital actually wound up getting charged with criminal trespassing.

02:07:11.000 Because he stole the horse?

02:07:13.000 Is that true?

02:07:13.000 Yep.

02:07:13.000 That's the only charge there was in the case.

02:07:15.000 Yeah.

02:07:15.000 Because you can't charge the horse, according to that.

02:07:17.000 Right.

02:07:17.000 But isn't there like a law protecting animals?

02:07:20.000 Because you can't do that.

02:07:22.000 Well, that's a good point.

02:07:24.000 But in Washington State, there wasn't a law.

02:07:26.000 I'm wondering...

02:07:27.000 It's like helpless animals is what the law says or something like that.

02:07:29.000 Would it have been different if he was the pitcher, if you know what I mean?

02:07:34.000 Right.

02:07:34.000 Then it would be different, right?

02:07:35.000 Because then you're fucking the animal.

02:07:37.000 But there's still no consent.

02:07:39.000 That horse didn't ask to put...

02:07:40.000 You know what I mean?

02:07:41.000 That's true.

02:07:42.000 Well, they just grabbed the dick and put it right in the guy's butt, and the horse was like, fine.

02:07:46.000 The horse just wanted something warm.

02:07:48.000 Consent is not in the law.

02:07:50.000 I was going to say, really?

02:07:51.000 It's in this article.

02:07:53.000 How did you know I was going to ask you that?

02:07:55.000 I was just going to ask.

02:07:56.000 Can you look up the laws of consent for horses?

02:07:58.000 Expressions of concern for animal consent, in quotes, do not seem to be consistent with the terms of U.S. law.

02:08:04.000 The notion of animal consent does not appear anywhere in law.

02:08:07.000 Animals may be legally castrated.

02:08:09.000 Right, yeah.

02:08:10.000 Hunted or butchered all without their consent.

02:08:12.000 Good point.

02:08:13.000 As long as animal cruelty statutes are not violated.

02:08:16.000 What is the animal cruelty?

02:08:17.000 Actually, it doesn't matter.

02:08:17.000 If you have your head cut off, you could stick your penis in a man.

02:08:20.000 I mean, like, obviously killing an animal's cruel, right?

02:08:23.000 So, like, we buy meat from an animal that's killed.

02:08:26.000 Right.

02:08:27.000 It's obviously, there's some kind of cruelty depending upon, particularly if they do it like, I think kosher practices are some of the most cruel because they just slice their throat.

02:08:37.000 Right.

02:08:38.000 Like for an animal to be kosher killed, I think they have to eat a certain type of food and then the way they do it is like one slice.

02:08:46.000 They have to be slaughtered in a certain way too?

02:08:47.000 I think so.

02:08:49.000 I think it's like one slice with a very sharp knife.

02:08:52.000 Is that why it's so expensive?

02:08:55.000 It definitely has a factor.

02:08:57.000 Because if it really is kosher, I think it actually has to be blessed by a rabbi too.

02:09:01.000 They have to be there.

02:09:02.000 The rabbi has to be there during the slaughter?

02:09:04.000 He has to kill it?

02:09:05.000 The rabbi?

02:09:06.000 Witness it, maybe.

02:09:07.000 I don't think they have to do it.

02:09:08.000 I think they have to witness it.

02:09:09.000 Well, let's Google it.

02:09:11.000 What is involved in kosher animals?

02:09:16.000 Like when you buy kosher hot dogs.

02:09:19.000 I'm not going to knock anyone's beliefs, but that seems a little strange to me.

02:09:23.000 It's strange because it was created before they figured out how to kill an animal instantaneously, with that piston to the head that they do with cows.

02:09:33.000 Jewish law states that for the meat to be considered kosher, it must meet the following criteria.

02:09:38.000 It must come from ruminant animals with cloven or split hooves, such as cows, sheep, goats, lambs, oxen, and deer.

02:09:46.000 The only permitted cuts of meat come from the four quarters of kosher ruminant animals.

02:09:51.000 Where does the rest of the meat go?

02:09:52.000 That's a good question.

02:09:53.000 To the non-kosher people?

02:09:54.000 You can't eat the rear, like you can't eat the hams, the back legs, the quarters.

02:09:59.000 You can't eat the ass.

02:10:00.000 Certain domesticated fowl can be eaten, so there's chicken, geese, quail, dove, and turkey.

02:10:05.000 The animal must be slaughtered by a shocket.

02:10:08.000 A person trained and certified to butcher animals according to Jewish laws.

02:10:13.000 The meat must be soaked to remove any traces of blood before cooking.

02:10:17.000 Any utensil used to slaughter or prepare the meat must be kosher and designated only for use with meat and meat products.

02:10:26.000 So if you're kosher, how do you go to a restaurant?

02:10:31.000 That's tough.

02:10:32.000 You know?

02:10:32.000 I mean, I eat dinner with Ben Shapiro, and he eats kosher, and we all went to a restaurant, and I don't think he ate anything.

02:10:38.000 He might have brought his own food.

02:10:39.000 His own pot.

02:10:40.000 Hey, I brought my own meat, thank you.

02:10:41.000 Yeah, it might be one of those deals.

02:10:43.000 Right.

02:10:43.000 That's a fucking commitment.

02:10:45.000 Can you be vegan and kosher?

02:10:47.000 He'll die.

02:10:49.000 He wouldn't make it very far.

02:10:50.000 That's a good question.

02:10:51.000 Can you be vegan and kosher?

02:10:53.000 Google that.

02:10:54.000 Yeah.

02:10:55.000 A lot of questions getting answered here.

02:10:57.000 Thank you very much.

02:10:57.000 Well, listen, you're a curious guy, Rich.

02:10:58.000 Thank you.

02:10:59.000 That's why you're interesting.

02:10:59.000 Speaking of curiosity, my second screenplay.

02:11:02.000 Oh, okay.

02:11:03.000 What's your second one?

02:11:04.000 The second one is...

02:11:05.000 Hold on a second here.

02:11:06.000 Yeah.

02:11:06.000 Simply put, all vegan food is kosher.

02:11:08.000 Oh, okay.

02:11:09.000 There you go.

02:11:09.000 Oh, shoot.

02:11:09.000 Okay.

02:11:10.000 So you're good.

02:11:10.000 But it depends upon how closely you follow kashrut, vegan kashrut, whatever you're saying.

02:11:15.000 Vegan food may fail to be kosher due to preparation by non-Jews with non-kosher equipment.

02:11:21.000 You have to be Jewish to prepare the food?

02:11:23.000 Yes.

02:11:23.000 And without kosher supervision.

02:11:25.000 Since kosher laws prohibit the mixing of milk and meat, a vegan meal has nothing to worry about with this.

02:11:32.000 That makes sense.

02:11:34.000 So because you can't mix milk and meat, cheeseburgers are out of the question.

02:11:41.000 Wow.

02:11:42.000 Yeah.

02:11:43.000 In summary, it says there's no contradiction between Judaism, its dietary laws, and veganism.

02:11:51.000 In fact, as argued above, veganism appears to be the diet most consistent with the highest Jewish values.

02:11:57.000 Okay, good.

02:11:58.000 That's good to know.

02:11:59.000 We learned something today.

02:12:00.000 Good stuff.

02:12:02.000 Second screenplay.

02:12:03.000 Okay.

02:12:04.000 This one is about...

02:12:07.000 About a person that is naturally very curious about the world.

02:12:11.000 Okay.

02:12:12.000 And this person is constantly asking questions like, why does it work this way?

02:12:17.000 Where does money go?

02:12:18.000 And this came up for me personally because there was a few scandals where I live where someone was major money embezzlement.

02:12:28.000 Misdirection of funds.

02:12:29.000 For example, if someone pays you X amount of money to do things like make sure the rows are paved, that money went someplace else.

02:12:36.000 So I think this one's a little bit simpler.

02:12:38.000 It's more of a person asking a lot of questions that don't have answers to it.

02:12:44.000 For example, there was a...

02:12:47.000 When we say That a company mismanaged funds, right?

02:12:56.000 And they have to pay a fine.

02:12:58.000 That company has to pay a fine of, let's just say $100,000 or so, right?

02:13:02.000 Actually, that's not a lot of money.

02:13:04.000 $20 million, right?

02:13:06.000 Where does that $20 million go?

02:13:08.000 And that's what I'd like to know more of.

02:13:10.000 Because once someone says, hey, you got to pay, you got to do something, how does the money flow through the organization?

02:13:14.000 Because as people, as humans, we're flawed.

02:13:18.000 We could be biased, and there's not a lot of controls in place for mismanagement of money.

02:13:24.000 So once the company that is that law...

02:13:29.000 It takes that money.

02:13:30.000 Where does that money go?

02:13:32.000 Is that money really managed properly?

02:13:34.000 Are there people that are mismanaging that money as well and using it for their own benefit?

02:13:39.000 I always wonder that.

02:13:41.000 There's times where we look to authority for answers for things.

02:13:44.000 A long time ago, I own a house that I rent out and the guy was dealing drugs out of that house.

02:13:52.000 Dealing drugs out of the house, not a very good thing.

02:13:54.000 Dealing drugs out of the house.

02:13:55.000 Are you responsible for that?

02:13:57.000 No, thankfully I wasn't.

02:13:59.000 What happened was the cops came in, raided the house, broke the door down, broke both doors down, found the guy and said, hey, listen, you're coming to jail with us.

02:14:09.000 In the news, the cops confiscated all these drugs and I think about $60,000 in cash, right?

02:14:20.000 Right.

02:14:20.000 Where's that money go?

02:14:21.000 Not only that, the tenant actually called me three weeks later and says, I am so sorry about what happened.

02:14:27.000 Really nice guy.

02:14:28.000 Really weird.

02:14:28.000 Paid his rent on time.

02:14:29.000 He's an awesome guy.

02:14:29.000 Paid in cash.

02:14:31.000 Yeah, really sad what happened, right?

02:14:33.000 I wish he could have stayed.

02:14:34.000 It was a great tenant.

02:14:34.000 Yeah, great tenant.

02:14:35.000 So they destroyed the house.

02:14:37.000 He goes, hey, just to let you know, I'm going to pay for everything.

02:14:40.000 I'm sorry.

02:14:41.000 I'll pay for your broken door because, you know, sure as shit, insurance isn't covering it.

02:14:44.000 Can't go to the police either.

02:14:45.000 Right.

02:14:45.000 He covered the price of the door, covered the repairs of the apartment, and he goes, just to let you know, yes, I was.

02:14:50.000 I was doing drugs out of the apartment.

02:14:52.000 I was selling them.

02:14:53.000 I'll also fix the walls for you.

02:14:55.000 He goes, just to let you know, when the police came, I had $160,000.

02:15:01.000 In cash.

02:15:02.000 Hitting in the walls, hidden here, hidden here.

02:15:04.000 He goes, the police only reported a fraction of that.

02:15:08.000 So they stole the money.

02:15:09.000 So that's what I want to know.

02:15:11.000 Of course they do that.

02:15:12.000 The only times that you hear about things happening, like even, dare I say, even Epstein, is when someone gets caught.

02:15:20.000 Right.

02:15:20.000 I want to know, what else is going on that we're not aware of?

02:15:24.000 There's these overarching scams that people have been running for decades, making hundreds of millions of dollars that we don't know about.

02:15:32.000 How are they doing those things without the public eye knowing?

02:15:35.000 Well, I think most of those things people don't get caught.

02:15:39.000 Right.

02:15:39.000 I think we only find out about the ones where people got caught, hence this story about your tenant.

02:15:44.000 I feel like that's probably really common.

02:15:47.000 Right.

02:15:47.000 If they rob a drug dealer and, you know, these cops are tired of this bullshit.

02:15:51.000 They're not getting paid enough.

02:15:52.000 People are shooting at them, you know, and then you see $160,000 and like, well, 50 for you.

02:15:58.000 Yeah.

02:15:59.000 Don't tell anyone.

02:16:00.000 Yeah.

02:16:00.000 Yeah, right.

02:16:00.000 And then, you know, you take your wife to a nice vacation, buy a car, whatever.

02:16:05.000 What would you do, Joe?

02:16:06.000 With the corrupt money?

02:16:07.000 Yeah.

02:16:07.000 This show on HBO Max?

02:16:11.000 Oh, yeah.

02:16:12.000 It's based on a real case in Baltimore.

02:16:14.000 Yeah.

02:16:14.000 The cops are doing that.

02:16:15.000 Yeah.

02:16:15.000 Oh, well, they...

02:16:16.000 Fucking Baltimore is super, super corrupt.

02:16:19.000 Yeah.

02:16:20.000 It's probably all over the country that's happening right now as we speak.

02:16:24.000 If you catch someone who's selling something illegally and they've got cash, what is the incentive to turn all that cash in?

02:16:31.000 I've always wanted to follow major companies and say, hey, listen, how is this money being redistributed in the company?

02:16:37.000 Are there hidden millionaires that we don't know about, people that aren't in the public eye, that have amassed all this wealth Due to illegal activities that aren't drugs.

02:16:47.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:16:47.000 Like just money laundering and scandals, things like that.

02:16:50.000 I'm sure there are.

02:16:50.000 Yeah, but I want to follow that.

02:16:51.000 But I think the premise of it is going to be a glimpse into what their life is like.

02:16:56.000 Once you make a few hundred million dollars, what's your life like?

02:17:01.000 For example, you're, you know, I'm sure you have a few bucks, right?

02:17:05.000 And you are a normal guy, right?

02:17:08.000 You're a normal, nice guy.

02:17:09.000 You're not nefarious.

02:17:10.000 You don't want to kill people.

02:17:12.000 We assume a lot.

02:17:13.000 We assume that when someone makes $100 million or $200 million, they're going to do things for good.

02:17:19.000 They'll donate to charity, they'll start a business or something.

02:17:21.000 What are the multi-hundred millionaires doing that aren't very nice people?

02:17:28.000 You know how there's evil people out there, just inherently evil people?

02:17:31.000 What are people that are rich that use their money and spend it in a negative way doing?

02:17:36.000 Is it something like Squid Games, for example?

02:17:38.000 Do they actually do things like that?

02:17:39.000 Is that real?

02:17:40.000 I'm sure there's people that do that in other countries where they can go somewhere and hunt a person.

02:17:44.000 Right.

02:17:44.000 That's what I kind of want to focus on.

02:17:46.000 The people that make their money nefariously.

02:17:49.000 Aren't quiet about it and use it for bad purposes like Epstein for example.

02:17:53.000 Yeah, or Russian oligarchs and evil people.

02:17:56.000 Yeah, that'd be kind of cool.

02:17:57.000 I think the problem is when people get into that business of just making money and that's what they're concentrating on.

02:18:04.000 They just want more and more and more and you never fill that hole.

02:18:09.000 And then you also...

02:18:11.000 You have to, like, buy things, I guess?

02:18:14.000 So you start buying yachts and mansions and fuckin' jets.

02:18:18.000 And then you get that money coming in.

02:18:20.000 I think Bezos did.

02:18:21.000 He built, like, the biggest boat in the world.

02:18:22.000 Yeah.

02:18:23.000 And it's just, like, sitting there.

02:18:24.000 Well, he built a boat that they were gonna have to dismantle a bridge.

02:18:28.000 Like a historic bridge, yes.

02:18:29.000 To get it through in Holland.

02:18:30.000 And they were like, no.

02:18:31.000 But the blowback was so heavy, they decided to not do that.

02:18:34.000 So I guess they have to, like, get the boat out of the shipyard and then rebuild it somewhere else or finish building it.

02:18:41.000 That sounds very expensive, yeah.

02:18:42.000 Sounds expensive.

02:18:43.000 But it's a fucking ridiculously long boat.

02:18:45.000 It's like a 500 foot long boat or something like that.

02:18:48.000 Who do you bring on that boat with you?

02:18:49.000 All the bitches.

02:18:50.000 All the bitches.

02:18:51.000 All the coke.

02:18:52.000 Suitcases of coke.

02:18:53.000 It's a lot of coke, Joe.

02:18:55.000 EDM. The whole crew.

02:18:57.000 Morning Stars.

02:18:57.000 You name it.

02:18:57.000 Yeah, the whole deal.

02:18:58.000 Maybe a horse.

02:18:59.000 Is that a horse?

02:18:59.000 What's that horse doing here?

02:19:00.000 God, what does he do with all that money?

02:19:03.000 I think when you become a person that's just chasing money, I don't think you ever get that fix.

02:19:11.000 You're always just wanting the latest, greatest thing.

02:19:14.000 I was talking to this person who is like an attendant on a yacht, on a super yacht.

02:19:23.000 Yeah.

02:19:23.000 And I was asking, I was like, well, what does the guy who owns a yacht do?

02:19:26.000 And he was like some telecommunications guy in another country.

02:19:30.000 He's got billions of dollars.

02:19:32.000 Interesting.

02:19:32.000 And she goes, you know what's interesting?

02:19:34.000 She goes, all of these yachts are all for sale.

02:19:37.000 I go, really?

02:19:38.000 She goes, yeah.

02:19:38.000 They're always trying to get newer, better ones.

02:19:40.000 So they buy this yacht, and it's worth $50 million, and then they're like, no, I'm not good enough.

02:19:48.000 And then they want a $70 million yacht.

02:19:50.000 And then they see their buddy who got a $100 million yacht.

02:19:52.000 Oh, look at Frank.

02:19:53.000 How is yacht technology advancing that much?

02:19:56.000 You need the latest one so soon.

02:19:57.000 What's the difference between a yacht that was made Two years ago and the one that's made today.

02:20:01.000 That's a good question.

02:20:02.000 I know they're super expensive to run.

02:20:04.000 I have a friend who owns a yacht.

02:20:05.000 Yeah.

02:20:06.000 And he got an older one and he's like super successful producer of television shows and films and stuff like that.

02:20:14.000 He's very, very wealthy.

02:20:16.000 Nice.

02:20:16.000 Is it Dick Wolf?

02:20:17.000 Nope.

02:20:18.000 I don't know that guy.

02:20:18.000 Law and Order?

02:20:19.000 I bet he's got multiple yards.

02:20:21.000 Is it Dick Wolf?

02:20:22.000 Those shows are the dumbest shows.

02:20:25.000 Yeah.

02:20:25.000 And everyone watches them.

02:20:27.000 Infinite money.

02:20:28.000 Forever.

02:20:28.000 They have like 18 versions of them.

02:20:30.000 They've been going on forever.

02:20:32.000 Law and Order.

02:20:32.000 Thousands of episodes.

02:20:33.000 Law and Order, your mom's house.

02:20:34.000 Law and Order.

02:20:35.000 You know what I mean?

02:20:37.000 Yeah.

02:20:37.000 I mean, in many ways, it's like this endless pursuit of happiness.

02:20:43.000 If you want money, if that's all you want out of life is money.

02:20:46.000 Right.

02:20:47.000 Goddamn, man.

02:20:48.000 I think that's money laundering, Joe.

02:20:52.000 I think it's money laundering.

02:20:55.000 I read somewhere that one of the most frequently purchased things in cash are like large boats for some reason.

02:21:02.000 And they use it as a way to, like, laundry money and they sell the boat later.

02:21:05.000 That makes sense.

02:21:05.000 Maybe it's money laundering.

02:21:06.000 That could be for a lot of cases.

02:21:08.000 Yeah.

02:21:09.000 For sure.

02:21:09.000 I don't think Jeff Bezos is laundering money, though.

02:21:11.000 I don't think he is, no.

02:21:12.000 Not him.

02:21:13.000 But you know what I'm saying?

02:21:13.000 But he might be.

02:21:14.000 Maybe he's an evil billionaire.

02:21:16.000 Ooh.

02:21:16.000 Maybe he is.

02:21:17.000 Maybe he's Gru.

02:21:17.000 Yeah.

02:21:18.000 Is Gru really evil, though?

02:21:19.000 No, not really.

02:21:20.000 He's not evil, yeah.

02:21:21.000 He took care of the girls.

02:21:22.000 Yeah.

02:21:22.000 He's a good guy.

02:21:23.000 Yeah.

02:21:23.000 I feel like it's one of those things where human nature never gets satisfied.

02:21:28.000 The human nature of the hunter-gatherer is to acquire social status in the tribe and to become a leader.

02:21:38.000 That's what those guys are doing.

02:21:39.000 They're just doing it on this bizarre economic scale where they're talking about Thousands of millions, right?

02:21:46.000 They're talking about billions of dollars.

02:21:48.000 And they find ways to spend it.

02:21:50.000 Instead of having their needs fulfilled and saying, I'm just going to get a nice house, and I'm just going to have a nice piece of land, and I'll never have to work again.

02:21:58.000 No one does that.

02:21:59.000 So let me ask you a question, Joe.

02:22:00.000 So that kind of relates to you, Rinaway.

02:22:03.000 You love what you do.

02:22:05.000 You're a super busy guy.

02:22:06.000 You're always either here doing this, some comedy show, running some business.

02:22:10.000 How do you know, and I struggle with this, how do you know when to stop?

02:22:14.000 That's a good question.

02:22:16.000 I'm at the point where I never want, I just always want to work.

02:22:19.000 My main goal in life, not a very big goal, but I never want to have to go back to working a 9 to 5 ever again.

02:22:26.000 Right.

02:22:26.000 And that is a goal that's been embedded in me for so long because I see what my life is like Not being in the control of someone or a company or making someone else rich.

02:22:36.000 I see my life now.

02:22:38.000 I never want to go back to that again.

02:22:40.000 I'm at the point where hopefully I won't have to go back, but YouTube's one of those funny things where at any moment it could just kind of fall on the rug underneath you and you have to figure something out.

02:22:48.000 You know what I mean?

02:22:49.000 That is a weird thing.

02:22:50.000 What is it like working for a company like that and having that be a primary source of income?

02:22:55.000 I guess you'll never know, Joe.

02:22:57.000 It's a weird thing where YouTube is incredibly competitive.

02:23:04.000 And there's something now that's been taking over YouTube for quite a few years now that's actually terrifying.

02:23:10.000 It's something called clout.

02:23:13.000 What's happening is nowadays kids don't really give a shit about being a doctor or a lawyer.

02:23:19.000 They want to be on TikTok.

02:23:21.000 They want to be twerking on a boat.

02:23:23.000 They want to be popular.

02:23:24.000 They want to be known.

02:23:25.000 That's clout.

02:23:26.000 What's happening is I reached out to a buddy of mine.

02:23:31.000 And he put me in touch with this guy that needed help.

02:23:34.000 He was a multi-multi-multi-millionaire.

02:23:37.000 And he had a son.

02:23:39.000 And he said, my son wants to start a YouTube channel.

02:23:43.000 I said, why?

02:23:45.000 He has endless money.

02:23:47.000 He goes, my son wants to do this.

02:23:50.000 Because he feels that it's going to give him more life experiences, right?

02:23:54.000 This guy's multi-million dollars, his dad.

02:23:56.000 He goes, how much is a good amount of money to start a YouTube channel?

02:24:00.000 Is $100,000 or $200,000 okay?

02:24:05.000 All people want to do nowadays is they just want their name out there.

02:24:09.000 It's not even about the money.

02:24:11.000 There are people, the actual celebrities have reached out to me saying, hey, can I be on your channel?

02:24:14.000 Like, I just want like a five minutes of fame just so I get my face and name out there.

02:24:18.000 I'm thinking to myself, It's not about the money anymore, Joe.

02:24:21.000 People just want clout.

02:24:23.000 They want their name out there, they want to be popular, and they want to be seen.

02:24:27.000 There is something to that.

02:24:29.000 I've had some very wealthy, successful people that want to come on the podcast because I think they're fans of it and they just want other people to see them on it.

02:24:37.000 Exactly.

02:24:38.000 Everyone wants to be a star.

02:24:40.000 And I've seen this even on the channel in general.

02:24:44.000 I had a guy come over that sold me a car.

02:24:47.000 And he knows I make videos.

02:24:49.000 He said, hey, you know, I don't want to be in any videos.

02:24:52.000 Like, I just want to sell you this car and leave.

02:24:54.000 I said, okay, that's fine.

02:24:55.000 I said, well, I have to shoot something really quick about the transaction for this car.

02:25:00.000 I go, do you want to just be in it first for a minute?

02:25:02.000 He goes, that's fine, whatever.

02:25:04.000 I had the car in the air to look underneath it.

02:25:06.000 The second I turned that camera on, Joe, he started making all these jokes, being lively, talking, dancing, promoting his Instagram, making all these off-color jokes.

02:25:22.000 It's amazing what a little bit of fame, I guess you could say, could do to someone.

02:25:26.000 Knowing that's his time in the sun.

02:25:27.000 My time is now.

02:25:28.000 I gotta take it.

02:25:30.000 It's all about clout, Joe.

02:25:32.000 It's not even money anymore.

02:25:33.000 It's just like, hey, listen, I want to be seen.

02:25:34.000 People will do anything for the clout to be popular because they see what kind of fame and fortune going on YouTube could bring.

02:25:41.000 You have, like, Jake Pauls and stuff that make crazy money starting from this platform.

02:25:47.000 Everyone wants to be on that level as well.

02:25:49.000 And even people that have sworn to me, I don't want to be famous, once they get a taste of that drug show, once they're walking out somewhere and someone says, hey, don't I know you?

02:25:59.000 Hey, I think I know.

02:26:00.000 Didn't I see you from this?

02:26:01.000 It drives them crazy and they just want more and more.

02:26:05.000 I probably know like On my hand, three people that aren't like that.

02:26:11.000 I want to be in the video again.

02:26:12.000 I want to be seen again.

02:26:13.000 What can this do for me?

02:26:14.000 Hey, can I promote my Instagram channel on your YouTube real quick?

02:26:19.000 A guy came over wearing a shirt that had his Instagram tag on it.

02:26:22.000 I said, don't do this, dude.

02:26:23.000 Don't do this to me.

02:26:25.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

02:26:27.000 Clout's crazy, Joe, and you can't buy swag.

02:26:29.000 You can't buy being cool.

02:26:31.000 No.

02:26:32.000 But people want to do that.

02:26:33.000 Yeah, they think it's going to work.

02:26:35.000 And they think maybe it'll help them transition out of whatever they're doing and they can become an Instagram influencer.

02:26:42.000 Right.

02:26:42.000 Or what's next?

02:26:43.000 If you're a millionaire, if you have all the money in the world, what's next for you?

02:26:47.000 You can buy whatever you want.

02:26:49.000 You can't buy being cool.

02:26:50.000 Right.

02:26:51.000 So I think that's the next step for them.

02:26:52.000 I think they want to say, hey, I want to be seen now.

02:26:53.000 Now that I can buy whatever I want, but no one knows who I am.

02:26:56.000 There's plenty of millionaires and no one knows who they are.

02:26:58.000 Yeah, I know a guy like that.

02:26:59.000 He's a billionaire.

02:27:01.000 He really wants to be famous.

02:27:03.000 Yeah.

02:27:06.000 What's the next logical step?

02:27:08.000 You know what I mean?

02:27:09.000 You see that with people that have a company and they do their own commercials.

02:27:13.000 They're in their own commercials.

02:27:14.000 Why are you doing that, dude?

02:27:15.000 Don't do that.

02:27:16.000 Just hide.

02:27:16.000 You should be hiding.

02:27:18.000 Hiding your yacht.

02:27:20.000 Yeah, hiding your yacht.

02:27:21.000 But yeah, YouTube, it's interesting.

02:27:24.000 It's super competitive.

02:27:27.000 Especially in the car space, everyone wants to rebuild a car.

02:27:30.000 And now my competition, because when I started out, when I did the first Tesla, that thing was $14,000.

02:27:36.000 I scraped every penny that I had, savings, whatever, panhandling, you name it.

02:27:41.000 So I had that car, and that's how I built the channel.

02:27:45.000 14 grand, guess what?

02:27:47.000 I needed another few grand to do this, took out a savings for a 1K, you name it, I made it work.

02:27:51.000 Nowadays, entering the car space, There are kids that have checks from their parents for $100,000 to buy a car to work on.

02:28:00.000 It's incredible.

02:28:02.000 There are companies that have always had money that say, hey, listen, we want to do this now.

02:28:06.000 There's companies that aren't cool but want to be cool in that space to promote their product and will throw whatever money it costs at it.

02:28:15.000 My advice to you would be not think about that, because you're already cool.

02:28:19.000 Yeah, thank you.

02:28:19.000 What you should do is, I enjoy your show.

02:28:22.000 Thank you very much.

02:28:23.000 Thank you, thank you.

02:28:23.000 I watch it all the time.

02:28:24.000 Thank you.

02:28:24.000 I think a guy like you should just concentrate on being you and ignore all that shit.

02:28:30.000 As long as you're making money off of it, and you clearly are, don't worry about it.

02:28:34.000 Don't think about competition.

02:28:35.000 I don't think at all about competition.

02:28:37.000 You have competition, Joe?

02:28:38.000 You have competition?

02:28:38.000 I'm sure there's some out there.

02:28:40.000 Okay.

02:28:40.000 I think there was.

02:28:41.000 It's like four million podcasts.

02:28:42.000 Yeah, but they're not big.

02:28:44.000 It's not the Joe Rogan experience.

02:28:45.000 I don't know how this got big.

02:28:47.000 It got big by me just doing this.

02:28:49.000 I do zero promotion.

02:28:51.000 It might be you.

02:28:51.000 It might have something to do with you, Joe.

02:28:53.000 I think it does.

02:28:54.000 Whatever it is, I'm going to just keep being me then.

02:28:56.000 Right.

02:28:56.000 Because it's like, if that's the formula, but imagine if I start thinking about my competitors and what are my competitors doing and how do I keep a leg up on my competitors.

02:29:06.000 That's wasted resources and energy.

02:29:08.000 Absolutely.

02:29:09.000 That's not how I got here in the first place.

02:29:12.000 I got here in the first place just by being me.

02:29:14.000 And I think you got where you are by being you.

02:29:16.000 Thank you.

02:29:16.000 And I think you should spend zero time thinking about other people, unless you're enjoying their show.

02:29:21.000 Yeah, that's okay.

02:29:24.000 Unless you find someone and you go, oh, I like his show.

02:29:26.000 There's a lot of people in the car space that I really enjoy, like Chris Harris.

02:29:29.000 I enjoy Matt Farah.

02:29:31.000 There's a lot of people that are cool.

02:29:33.000 I like watching their shows.

02:29:34.000 If that's what you enjoy and you enjoy it for that, I don't think of other comedians as being competition.

02:29:40.000 I think of them as being other artists that I enjoy their work.

02:29:44.000 Do you see it as we all There's enough room for all of us to eat?

02:29:47.000 Yes.

02:29:48.000 You could have a million comedians, right?

02:29:50.000 Yes, 100%.

02:29:51.000 And not only that, the more there are, the better it is for everybody.

02:29:55.000 So you don't think it gets saturated?

02:29:56.000 That's my fear.

02:29:57.000 You don't think it gets saturated sometimes, because you have, especially for a show, there's 50 different shows to watch, but you only have an hour's worth of time.

02:30:05.000 If I thought about that, I would be fucked.

02:30:07.000 Because there's four million podcasts.

02:30:09.000 Right.

02:30:09.000 Right?

02:30:10.000 So if I thought about it, oh my god, what if it's saturated?

02:30:12.000 What if I'm gonna fall off?

02:30:14.000 Right.

02:30:14.000 I don't give a fuck.

02:30:15.000 I might start one.

02:30:16.000 Good.

02:30:17.000 Start one.

02:30:18.000 You'd be great at it.

02:30:19.000 Look, you're good here.

02:30:20.000 Yeah, I'm alright.

02:30:20.000 Why not?

02:30:21.000 Yeah, it's not a bad idea.

02:30:22.000 Give me some competition.

02:30:23.000 Knock you off that pedal, Joe.

02:30:25.000 Dude, you could do it.

02:30:27.000 You 100% could do it.

02:30:28.000 You're great on this.

02:30:30.000 You were great the last time I had you on.

02:30:31.000 You're great on your YouTube channel.

02:30:32.000 It's not much difference.

02:30:33.000 It's just you being a person.

02:30:35.000 So just like Matt Farah, he's a podcast too.

02:30:38.000 Oh, he's great.

02:30:38.000 Started his show doing YouTube videos, started doing a podcast afterwards.

02:30:42.000 Anyone can do this.

02:30:43.000 Right.

02:30:44.000 This has not just got to be an interesting person.

02:30:46.000 You're already that, so bam.

02:30:48.000 Just don't think about other people.

02:30:49.000 Okay.

02:30:49.000 Fuck all those other people.

02:30:50.000 That's good advice.

02:30:51.000 Yeah.

02:30:51.000 Not literally, but just forget about them.

02:30:53.000 No, don't fuck them all.

02:30:53.000 And don't let them fuck you either.

02:30:54.000 Right.

02:30:55.000 What you should do is just enjoy what you enjoy and do what you do.

02:30:59.000 Right.

02:31:00.000 Thank you.

02:31:00.000 It sounds so simple, and it's not advice that I would give to the Starbucks guy.

02:31:04.000 Yeah, no.

02:31:05.000 Oh, yeah.

02:31:05.000 Yeah.

02:31:06.000 What would you even tell him, Joe?

02:31:07.000 Let's just say some dopey guy that makes 12 bucks an hour comes up to you and says, hey, you know, what do I do?

02:31:12.000 I'm sad.

02:31:13.000 Yeah.

02:31:13.000 No one likes me.

02:31:14.000 I would probably try to get him to do something physical that he's interested in because I think that would excite his body and maybe pick up rock climbing or something like anything where you have You have a purpose, like a hobby that you enjoy.

02:31:29.000 Good point.

02:31:29.000 And then maybe one day you could turn that purpose or that hobby, that thing that you focus on that you actually like.

02:31:35.000 Like some money.

02:31:36.000 Yeah.

02:31:36.000 Maybe it could become what you do for a living.

02:31:38.000 Right.

02:31:38.000 Good point.

02:31:39.000 Good point.

02:31:40.000 Is there hope for everyone, Joe?

02:31:41.000 You think there's hope for everyone or you think people are just hopeless?

02:31:44.000 I think it depends on the choices you make, the circumstances you find yourself in, luck.

02:31:50.000 There's a lot of factors.

02:31:51.000 Right.

02:31:52.000 Obviously, there's no hope for anyone to live forever.

02:31:55.000 No, definitely not.

02:31:56.000 We're all going to die, right?

02:31:57.000 Definitely not.

02:31:57.000 So at some point in time, you're going to run out of hope.

02:31:59.000 Right.

02:32:00.000 The hope is that you left enough love behind and you were kind enough to a lot of people that remember you fondly.

02:32:07.000 Good point.

02:32:08.000 You left a mark, I guess.

02:32:09.000 Yeah.

02:32:10.000 If that's important when you're dead.

02:32:11.000 Right.

02:32:12.000 Is it?

02:32:13.000 I mean, yeah, I'd like to.

02:32:15.000 I mean, I have videos of me out there, so yeah.

02:32:17.000 It would be nice if people remembered you in a fond way.

02:32:19.000 Right.

02:32:20.000 But at the end of the day, you're not going to have any idea.

02:32:22.000 Is it true that it's either you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain?

02:32:28.000 Is there any truth to that?

02:32:29.000 I think with a lot of people, that's probably the case.

02:32:32.000 Yeah.

02:32:32.000 You know, I mean, what if Jim Morrison was still alive today?

02:32:35.000 Would it be an idiot?

02:32:37.000 Who knows?

02:32:38.000 There's a lot of old people that just become deplorable.

02:32:41.000 You don't like them after a while.

02:32:45.000 I don't know, man.

02:32:46.000 I don't think there's any set thing in life that you definitely will be or will become.

02:32:52.000 You bring up a good point.

02:32:53.000 When you say old people, I think that's a fear that I have personally.

02:32:57.000 I fear becoming, I guess you could say, old and irrelevant.

02:33:02.000 Yeah, like old and in the way.

02:33:05.000 You know what I mean?

02:33:05.000 Because, again, social media life, it moves so fast.

02:33:09.000 How do you not get left behind is my biggest thing.

02:33:12.000 How do I not become that old guy in the corner?

02:33:15.000 That's just yelling at kids to get off his lawn.

02:33:17.000 Because at this point, I'm older.

02:33:22.000 I'm not that young, hip, cool kid that's in his late 20s when I started out.

02:33:27.000 Now I'm a bit older and more mature now.

02:33:29.000 How do I keep that same spirit?

02:33:31.000 You know what I mean?

02:33:31.000 How do I not become what I want to destroy?

02:33:35.000 Whatever that means.

02:33:36.000 I think you continue to enjoy your life.

02:33:39.000 Continue to have good friendships and good relationships.

02:33:42.000 Continue to do things that you're passionate about.

02:33:44.000 Continue to do things that are exciting.

02:33:46.000 Because one of the things about doing something that you're passionate about is it's very contagious.

02:33:50.000 I will watch someone do pottery if they're really into it.

02:33:55.000 I'll watch someone paint.

02:33:56.000 I'll watch someone make furniture.

02:33:57.000 I like watching people that are into it.

02:33:59.000 I like watching people Take apart watches and finish them and refurbish them.

02:34:06.000 I don't know why.

02:34:07.000 ASMR where they're not even talking.

02:34:09.000 You're just hearing the sounds and everything.

02:34:11.000 I'll spend fucking 45 minutes watching some guy take a watch apart and put it back together again.

02:34:16.000 I don't know why.

02:34:18.000 When people are interested in things.

02:34:20.000 Right.

02:34:21.000 I think other people are as well.

02:34:22.000 And I think that's what people get out of your show, that you're clearly fascinated and you're in love with cars.

02:34:29.000 You love them.

02:34:30.000 I do.

02:34:30.000 When you're barreling around that fucking Corvette.

02:34:33.000 Yeah.

02:34:34.000 You could tell.

02:34:35.000 Look at your smile.

02:34:37.000 Look at your smile immediately.

02:34:39.000 You had an uncontrollable smile with your whole face.

02:34:42.000 I do.

02:34:42.000 I love that car, man.

02:34:43.000 I love that thing.

02:34:45.000 The cars that invoke emotion, you know how that goes.

02:34:47.000 I just love that thing.

02:34:48.000 You know what I mean?

02:34:49.000 Well, that is the argument against the electric car.

02:34:52.000 I guess it does with some people, but I think they've probably never driven a Corvette.

02:34:56.000 No.

02:34:57.000 No, but they'll be like, eh, it smells, and then, and then.

02:34:59.000 My wife says that, man.

02:35:01.000 I have a 1970 Chevelle, and I took her out to dinner with it.

02:35:03.000 She's like, oh, it's so loud.

02:35:05.000 Oh, it's bouncy.

02:35:06.000 Oh, my baby, come on.

02:35:08.000 This is the greatest fucking car ever.

02:35:10.000 Yeah, right.

02:35:11.000 Tell her to take two separate cars, then.

02:35:12.000 Tell her to drive her a Plaid, and you drive that one.

02:35:14.000 See who gets more looks.

02:35:15.000 It's just, some people like different things.

02:35:18.000 But if you like something, just continue to like it.

02:35:22.000 Look at fucking Jay Leno's garage.

02:35:23.000 Jay Leno should be irrelevant after leaving The Tonight Show.

02:35:27.000 No one should give a fuck.

02:35:28.000 That's a good point.

02:35:29.000 He's more loved now because of Jay Leno's garage.

02:35:32.000 He has a lot of money too, though, to be fair.

02:35:33.000 That helps.

02:35:34.000 But it's also what he spends his money on is clearly not for clout.

02:35:39.000 He has an impressive garage, man.

02:35:41.000 It's not just one.

02:35:42.000 There's 11 of them.

02:35:43.000 I know.

02:35:44.000 There's 11 warehouses filled with cars.

02:35:46.000 That's amazing to me.

02:35:47.000 I've been to it.

02:35:47.000 It's fucking nuts, man.

02:35:48.000 That's amazing to me, man.

02:35:49.000 When you go to see it, you're like, holy shit.

02:35:52.000 Are there tours for it?

02:35:53.000 Can I be invited on to the show somehow?

02:35:55.000 I bet you could get on it with your Tesla.

02:35:57.000 I bet 100%.

02:35:58.000 Oh, good point.

02:35:59.000 Yeah.

02:35:59.000 Maybe I could even arrange that.

02:36:02.000 That'd be kind of sick.

02:36:02.000 Yeah, because I bet he would love it.

02:36:03.000 I think he'd like it.

02:36:04.000 It's sick.

02:36:04.000 It's so sick.

02:36:05.000 It is sick.

02:36:06.000 You'd have to transport it to California and drive it around Burbank with him.

02:36:10.000 So be it.

02:36:10.000 That wouldn't be that hard.

02:36:11.000 He's been in California before, yeah.

02:36:12.000 That's probably a great move for you, because that would be a really good show to be on, because that guy fucking loves cars.

02:36:19.000 And you can tell.

02:36:20.000 He's passionate, right?

02:36:21.000 Yeah, he doesn't wear makeup on that show.

02:36:23.000 He doesn't have a fucking stylist.

02:36:25.000 He's wearing jean jackets and shit.

02:36:27.000 A jean shirt.

02:36:28.000 Yeah, that's Jay Leno.

02:36:31.000 But that's a perfect example of a show that became very popular purely because of his passion and his interest.

02:36:38.000 I don't think he's running around thinking whether or not he's relevant.

02:36:41.000 No, yeah.

02:36:41.000 No, it's not.

02:36:42.000 You know what I mean?

02:36:42.000 It's like you can't...

02:36:43.000 Don't concentrate on things you have no control over.

02:36:46.000 Right.

02:36:46.000 And I don't know whether or not you have control over whether or not you're relevant.

02:36:50.000 I think the way...

02:36:51.000 You have control over whether or not you do things that are interesting, and in turn, that is attractive or unattractive to people.

02:36:58.000 Right.

02:36:58.000 That's a good point.

02:36:59.000 What are your points?

02:37:00.000 Yeah.

02:37:01.000 It's funny.

02:37:02.000 When I was coming down here...

02:37:03.000 You guys don't have any mountains or like...

02:37:05.000 Nothing.

02:37:05.000 No mountains.

02:37:06.000 Little hills.

02:37:07.000 Any swamps or any like...

02:37:08.000 Oh, there's a lot of water.

02:37:09.000 Really?

02:37:10.000 Yeah.

02:37:10.000 I wanted to bring the Sherp down.

02:37:11.000 I've been so sick.

02:37:12.000 You know the Sherp?

02:37:12.000 You've seen the Sherp before, right?

02:37:13.000 Yes.

02:37:14.000 I wanted to bring that thing down so bad.

02:37:15.000 Pull up a video of the Sherp.

02:37:17.000 How did you get that thing?

02:37:18.000 I got it in Texas.

02:37:19.000 There was this...

02:37:20.000 You know what I did?

02:37:21.000 I saw a Kanye West video.

02:37:23.000 He's got a bunch of them, right?

02:37:24.000 Yeah, he has like 30 of them.

02:37:26.000 In his Wyoming ranch.

02:37:26.000 In his ranch.

02:37:27.000 I was like, I want one of those.

02:37:28.000 But I couldn't afford that.

02:37:29.000 Oh, there it is.

02:37:30.000 I love this thing so much.

02:37:31.000 So that thing will go through everything?

02:37:34.000 Literally everything, yeah.

02:37:35.000 And this is yours?

02:37:37.000 That's mine, yeah.

02:37:38.000 So you bought it in Texas?

02:37:40.000 Is this where you bought it?

02:37:41.000 That's where I was.

02:37:42.000 I want to say Corpus Christi?

02:37:44.000 I don't know where I was in Texas, but it is one of the most fun vehicles.

02:37:47.000 I never drive it.

02:37:48.000 Look at this, driving over logs and shit.

02:37:50.000 It looks like a toy.

02:37:52.000 And does it go underwater?

02:37:53.000 Not under, yeah.

02:37:54.000 How deep can it go?

02:37:55.000 I took it in the ocean a few times.

02:37:57.000 What?

02:37:58.000 Yeah, you won't get there fast, but you'll get there.

02:38:01.000 So what kind of an engine is in this thing?

02:38:04.000 Kubota four-cylinder turbo diesel.

02:38:06.000 So in each wheel is a storage tank for gasoline.

02:38:11.000 What?

02:38:12.000 You can go thousands, like a thousand miles without stopping for fuel.

02:38:15.000 What?

02:38:15.000 Yeah, so it has an onboard gas tank and in the wheels themselves, there's also storage for inside of the wheels too.

02:38:21.000 So inside the wheels is gasoline?

02:38:23.000 Yeah.

02:38:23.000 Whatever liquid you want.

02:38:24.000 When I actually first got it, there was actually moonshine.

02:38:26.000 Because they're all from Ukraine.

02:38:28.000 There it is right there.

02:38:29.000 They're all from Ukraine.

02:38:30.000 So they actually would go on expeditions with their buddies and they would store whatever liquids they want in them.

02:38:35.000 How much does one of these things cost?

02:38:38.000 Nowadays, probably like a buck.

02:38:41.000 A buck twenty.

02:38:42.000 Ish.

02:38:44.000 Yeah.

02:38:45.000 Play that again.

02:38:46.000 Keep playing it.

02:38:48.000 Oh, okay.

02:38:48.000 Go to the website.

02:38:49.000 So they sell used ones?

02:38:51.000 Is that what it is?

02:38:52.000 Are they still manufacturing them?

02:38:53.000 They still make them, but the version that I have, they don't make anymore because there's no emissions controls on them.

02:38:58.000 All the new ones that are imported have to have computerized emissions.

02:39:01.000 But the one that I have is very popular because it's a better form factor and there's no emissions on it.

02:39:09.000 Huh.

02:39:12.000 You're getting hacked, right?

02:39:13.000 Yeah, they're getting hacked, yeah.

02:39:14.000 You're going into Ukraine.

02:39:15.000 Yeah, Mazzadonia, they're hacking you.

02:39:19.000 Number one Sherp ATV sales.

02:39:20.000 What is the cheapest Sherp?

02:39:21.000 Try that one, Sherp sales?

02:39:23.000 Let's see that.

02:39:24.000 Okay, here we go.

02:39:24.000 We got a website.

02:39:25.000 Sherp ATV sales, nationwide broker service, new and used.

02:39:28.000 So they only have- 150 grand.

02:39:30.000 They only have the Pro, which is the big one.

02:39:31.000 That's $1.50, yeah.

02:39:33.000 Look at that thing, though.

02:39:34.000 Yeah.

02:39:34.000 So that's larger, huh?

02:39:36.000 Yeah, a lot larger.

02:39:37.000 That's the thing, so I went down there.

02:39:38.000 Whoa, look at that thing.

02:39:39.000 How many people at seats?

02:39:41.000 Oh, you know what you should do?

02:39:41.000 Look up the Ark, Jamie.

02:39:43.000 The A-R-K. Sherp Ark.

02:39:46.000 It fits like 20 people.

02:39:47.000 It has a trailer where you can fit all your buddies in it.

02:39:50.000 And what it will do is, if there's like a giant crater that you have to go over, the trailer will...

02:39:57.000 That's it.

02:39:58.000 Whoa!

02:39:58.000 Yeah.

02:39:59.000 Holy shit!

02:40:00.000 I think Kanye has like 30 of them.

02:40:02.000 Ha ha ha!

02:40:03.000 Just cause.

02:40:03.000 That thing, that is awesome.

02:40:04.000 The trailer floats too.

02:40:06.000 That's it, yeah.

02:40:07.000 Wow.

02:40:09.000 So what it'll do, you see the trailer at the back of it?

02:40:11.000 Yeah.

02:40:12.000 The trailer will pick up the Sherp and drop it over a large crater.

02:40:17.000 Oh my god.

02:40:18.000 So that trailer is, there we go, there we go.

02:40:20.000 I think it's up top, there it is.

02:40:23.000 Whoa.

02:40:23.000 So this is like super sophisticated.

02:40:26.000 Yeah, you see how it was lifting up the front of it?

02:40:28.000 It actually lifts up the shirt to throw it over there.

02:40:30.000 That is fucking wild.

02:40:32.000 You should get one, Joe.

02:40:33.000 Oh gosh, they're incredible.

02:40:34.000 I have no place for it.

02:40:35.000 But if I had a place, if I had a ranch...

02:40:37.000 It's Texas, Joe.

02:40:37.000 You know what I mean?

02:40:38.000 I gotta get a ranch.

02:40:39.000 One day I'll get a ranch.

02:40:40.000 I want to get a podcast ranch.

02:40:42.000 That's one of my ideas, is to have...

02:40:43.000 If I get bored with just having conversations with people sitting across the desk, I want to have conversations with them where we do stuff.

02:40:50.000 Have them tend the horses.

02:40:51.000 Podcast video can be in the back of that.

02:40:52.000 Yeah, we totally could.

02:40:53.000 Seriously, look how sick that is.

02:40:55.000 So it floats.

02:40:56.000 That is bonkers.

02:40:56.000 I mean, I took it in dirt, sand.

02:40:58.000 I think it's the most capable vehicle in the world.

02:41:01.000 It's pretty crazy.

02:41:02.000 Yeah, it's wild.

02:41:03.000 It's dope looking, too.

02:41:04.000 It's very much like an apocalypse vehicle.

02:41:06.000 I took it to Dunkin' Donuts.

02:41:08.000 I got free donuts.

02:41:09.000 Pretty cool.

02:41:10.000 When they saw that, they gave you free donuts?

02:41:11.000 They gave me free donuts, yeah.

02:41:12.000 Well, that's a nice perk.

02:41:13.000 Yeah, the rich get richer.

02:41:15.000 Rich, I gotta wrap this up.

02:41:17.000 Alright.

02:41:18.000 Thank you very much for being here.

02:41:19.000 Awesome.

02:41:20.000 Thank you very much.

02:41:20.000 Always good to talk to you.

02:41:21.000 Thank you very much.

02:41:21.000 I really appreciate your show.

02:41:22.000 Tell everybody, Rich Rebuilds.

02:41:24.000 It's on YouTube.

02:41:25.000 Thank you, thank you.

02:41:26.000 Do you have Instagram and all that jazz?

02:41:28.000 Instagram, RichieBKid with two Ds.

02:41:30.000 Oh, that's right.

02:41:30.000 Yeah.

02:41:31.000 And Twitter?

02:41:33.000 Not on Twitter.

02:41:34.000 Good for you.

02:41:34.000 Yeah, Twitter, stay off that toxic fucking.

02:41:36.000 That's cool.

02:41:37.000 Yes.

02:41:37.000 Alright.

02:41:38.000 Thank you, brother.

02:41:38.000 Appreciate you.

02:41:39.000 Appreciate it, man.

02:41:39.000 Bye, everybody.

02:41:40.000 Awesome.

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 28, 2022

Joe Rogan Experience #1849 - Rich Benoit

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