The Joe Rogan Experience - August 19, 2022


Joe Rogan Experience #1860 - Tim Dillon


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 9 minutes

Words per Minute

190.27681

Word Count

36,086

Sentence Count

3,707

Misogynist Sentences

91


Summary

Joe Rogan is in the Hamptons, and we're here to talk about it. Joe talks about his new stand-up comedy club, The Comedy Cellar, and what it's like to be a comedian in the big city. Joe also talks about a war between the US and Cambodia and why he thinks it would be a good idea to invade Cambodia in 2022. And, of course, we talk about milk and other things that don't need to be talked about in this episode. Enjoy the episode, and remember to check out The Joe Rogan Experience on Comedy Central's Late Show with Seth Meyers! if you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE on Apple Podcasts or wherever else you get your shows. If you don't have a smartphone, you can stream the show on the Apple App Store or Google Play, but don't forget to subscribe and leave us a rating and review! Thanks for listening and share the podcast with your friends! Timestamps: 4:00 - What's your favorite thing you like about the show? 5:30 - What s your favorite part about the comedy club? 6:20 - What would you do if you were a comedian? 7:15 - Who would you invade a country? 8:40 - Would you invade Cambodia? 9:00 10:00 Is there a war in 2022? 11:00 What do you want to do in the US vs. Canada? 13:00 Does your country have the best milk? 15:00 Do you like almonds? 16:00 Would you like to go to a movie? 17:00 Can you go to Mexico? 18:00 Are you in a movie with someone you like it? 19:00 Should you go back to Mexico or California? 21:00 How much water? 22:30 Is it better? 23:30 Do you have a superpower? 25:30 What are you like your favorite drink? 26:40 27:00 Will you like a certain type of food? 29: Is it a good thing? 30:00 Almonds? 31:30 Does it taste better than your morning coffee? 32:30 33: Is your favorite kind of coffee 35:30 Can you eat it in a glass bottle or drink it in the afternoon?


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
00:00:12.000 Oh, hi, Tim Dillon.
00:00:13.000 Joe Rogan, thank you for having me.
00:00:15.000 My pleasure.
00:00:16.000 Thank you for having me, sir.
00:00:17.000 I appreciate it.
00:00:18.000 My pleasure.
00:00:19.000 That was fun, going over to the club.
00:00:20.000 It was amazing.
00:00:21.000 It's going to be great.
00:00:22.000 It's going to be great.
00:00:23.000 I'm excited about it.
00:00:25.000 I'm excited, and Louie was there.
00:00:28.000 I'm glad we got him to look at it, too.
00:00:29.000 He has some great notes.
00:00:32.000 Been, what would you say, 30-something?
00:00:34.000 I mean, you guys have been around the same time.
00:00:35.000 Yeah, he was a little bit before me, but he's got to be 35 years in now.
00:00:39.000 So he's been to every configuration of a comedy venue.
00:00:43.000 Yeah.
00:00:44.000 And so have you, probably.
00:00:46.000 So hearing you guys talk about this place and that place, you now have all the benefit of all that knowledge to make your spot amazing.
00:00:53.000 And we're doing it from scratch.
00:00:55.000 Right.
00:00:55.000 So we could just adjust, change, do things.
00:00:57.000 Yeah.
00:00:58.000 He had really good notes today.
00:00:59.000 You have the money, you have the time.
00:01:01.000 You have everything that would make it perfect.
00:01:03.000 It's exciting.
00:01:04.000 What about Cap City's going to open too?
00:01:06.000 They're open already.
00:01:07.000 Calen just did it.
00:01:08.000 Will you, like, do you think you would, like, threaten them?
00:01:14.000 No.
00:01:14.000 Would you, like, do a bomb threat or something?
00:01:19.000 No, I'll work there.
00:01:20.000 Well, there should be some kind of war.
00:01:22.000 No?
00:01:22.000 Nah.
00:01:23.000 No?
00:01:24.000 Who gives a fuck?
00:01:25.000 All right.
00:01:25.000 Well, I just thought it would be good.
00:01:27.000 If you're the United States, do you invade Cambodia in 2022?
00:01:32.000 Why would you do that?
00:01:33.000 Well, maybe.
00:01:33.000 They're not a threat.
00:01:35.000 That's a good point.
00:01:35.000 They're not a threat.
00:01:36.000 Okay.
00:01:37.000 So I like it.
00:01:37.000 We're in a war already.
00:01:39.000 It's no war.
00:01:41.000 It's a minor war.
00:01:43.000 It's the opposite of a war.
00:01:44.000 It's a cold war.
00:01:45.000 It's a unity.
00:01:46.000 It's unity.
00:01:47.000 We're bringing everybody together.
00:01:48.000 Okay, I like that.
00:01:49.000 Texas doesn't want to fight New Mexico.
00:01:50.000 We're all in the same country.
00:01:52.000 There's a lot of states Texas does want to fight.
00:01:55.000 Texas might want to fight California.
00:01:56.000 Texas and California should fight.
00:02:00.000 First they want to fight Mexico.
00:02:02.000 California grows their own food.
00:02:04.000 They have that benefit.
00:02:05.000 Texas has the guns.
00:02:07.000 They grow almonds.
00:02:07.000 They've got some good produce.
00:02:09.000 They waste all the water on almonds.
00:02:11.000 That's a lot of almonds, but almond milk is good.
00:02:13.000 It's not.
00:02:14.000 You don't like it?
00:02:15.000 It's gross.
00:02:15.000 It's only good with sugar.
00:02:16.000 You ever have almond milk with no sugar in it?
00:02:18.000 I get the one that's like sweet.
00:02:20.000 I get like cookie dough flavored almond milk.
00:02:22.000 Oh yeah, no.
00:02:22.000 I don't do unsweetened almond milk.
00:02:24.000 I do like chemical sweetener.
00:02:27.000 Of course.
00:02:27.000 Yeah.
00:02:27.000 Duncan Trussell's like, dude, I switched to almond milk.
00:02:30.000 It's amazing.
00:02:31.000 I go, look at it right now and tell me how many grams of sugar per serving.
00:02:35.000 Oh, it's crazy.
00:02:36.000 He's like, holy shit, it's 19!
00:02:38.000 Yeah.
00:02:38.000 You know what?
00:02:39.000 I've been having some rarely, but in the Hamptons, they have non-homogenized real cow's milk.
00:02:45.000 Oh, it's great.
00:02:45.000 It's really good.
00:02:46.000 It's better for you.
00:02:47.000 Yeah.
00:02:47.000 Raw milk is better for you.
00:02:49.000 It tastes better.
00:02:50.000 It just doesn't last long, but it's not supposed to last long.
00:02:52.000 No, it's supposed to come in a glass bottle.
00:02:53.000 Yeah.
00:02:54.000 And you're supposed to use it and then get rid of it.
00:02:55.000 Yeah, you're supposed to have it for a couple days and that's it.
00:02:57.000 Yeah.
00:02:58.000 That's all it's supposed to last.
00:02:59.000 They have really good, they have farm stands out there on that part of Long Island with fresh vegetables and then the milk and everything like that.
00:03:05.000 Oh, that's nice.
00:03:06.000 Yeah, it feels like when billionaires get involved, you have good options, you know?
00:03:13.000 How much time are you spending out in the Hamptons?
00:03:15.000 Not a ton.
00:03:15.000 I mean, we're on the road.
00:03:16.000 We're back and forth everywhere.
00:03:18.000 But I like to go out there and just chill and swim in the pool and invite the New York guys out.
00:03:25.000 New York comics.
00:03:26.000 How long does that drive?
00:03:27.000 About an hour and 35 to two hours, depending.
00:03:31.000 Wow.
00:03:32.000 Yeah.
00:03:32.000 So I'll have them out for a day and then everybody will go do spots at night.
00:03:36.000 So I'm doing a thing, Labor Day, I'll have some people out there and stuff.
00:03:40.000 Is there any comedy out there in the Hamptons?
00:03:42.000 No, they don't want any comedy there or any tourism.
00:03:46.000 They've actually, there's very few hotels and the hotels are three or four thousand a night and they're not anything great, but what they want is to keep people out.
00:03:55.000 There's one road in and one road out.
00:03:57.000 They've done a great job of keeping regular human beings out with their fat, disgusting families.
00:04:05.000 They've kept them out, and they've done a great job.
00:04:07.000 All the while, tweeting about, no human is illegal.
00:04:12.000 Love is love.
00:04:13.000 You know?
00:04:14.000 We must embrace everybody.
00:04:15.000 Sure.
00:04:16.000 But what they've really done, where they live, and this is what rich people are very good at.
00:04:20.000 They're very good.
00:04:21.000 They like to live in places that are inhospitable to other people.
00:04:26.000 You know?
00:04:27.000 Like, they put houses on cliffs in Malibu, nowhere near anybody, and out in the Hamptons, they go to the far-flung end of Long Island.
00:04:36.000 They like to be away from other people.
00:04:38.000 Do you go out there?
00:04:39.000 Do you, like, go to parties?
00:04:40.000 You hang out with those people?
00:04:41.000 No, I don't really get invited to parties.
00:04:44.000 I'm waiting.
00:04:45.000 I would invite you.
00:04:46.000 I would invite me, too.
00:04:50.000 But I've not been invited.
00:04:52.000 I've not been invited.
00:04:53.000 I was invited to one or two parties in Austin.
00:04:55.000 I went, I said something about them, and then I was never invited again.
00:04:58.000 I brought you to the Elon party.
00:04:59.000 Yes, that was very nice.
00:05:00.000 That was fun.
00:05:01.000 I went to some tech guy's party, and I made a joke or two about it on the podcast, and then the invitations dried out.
00:05:09.000 You know?
00:05:10.000 Ben went back to his party, and the guy gave Ben like a dirty look.
00:05:16.000 Really?
00:05:17.000 Yeah, because I told Ben, I'm like, don't go.
00:05:19.000 We're on this list by mistake.
00:05:20.000 He doesn't want us coming back.
00:05:22.000 He just didn't edit the list.
00:05:25.000 Don't show up.
00:05:26.000 Ben's like, I don't know.
00:05:27.000 I think we're invited.
00:05:28.000 I'm like, we're not.
00:05:29.000 And he showed up, and the guy gave him a really dirty look.
00:05:33.000 Really?
00:05:33.000 Yeah, because he didn't want him there.
00:05:35.000 Really?
00:05:36.000 He gave him a dirty look?
00:05:37.000 That's right, because Ben writes my whole show.
00:05:41.000 He writes all the ad libs?
00:05:43.000 Everything that I say that seems like it's off the top of my head is written by Ben Avery, at Ben Avery is good on Twitter, I think.
00:05:50.000 And so anybody that's upset at anything I say, I'm an actor, and Ben is really the problem.
00:05:56.000 Mmm.
00:05:57.000 So that's why the guy hated him.
00:05:59.000 But yeah, I don't get invited to real parties out there.
00:06:02.000 But out there is just about, you have the beach and you have like green farms and trees and you just chill.
00:06:08.000 Just chill.
00:06:09.000 Do you ever see Howard Stern?
00:06:10.000 No.
00:06:12.000 No.
00:06:12.000 Does he go out of his house?
00:06:13.000 He has a massive, he doesn't go out of his home.
00:06:16.000 He's got a massive estate where he just chills.
00:06:20.000 Most people there, I go out and we drive around and stuff and see stuff, but a lot of those people don't leave their home.
00:06:28.000 So for the entire summer, they pretty much, maybe they go to one or two restaurants, they stay in their home, and then they have like a private beach that is like behind their house.
00:06:41.000 Yeah, you have Seinfeld out there, Stern, Alec Baldwin, my friend, who's there to relax.
00:06:50.000 And by the way, congrats to Alec Baldwin.
00:06:52.000 That just got ruled an accident.
00:06:56.000 It did?
00:06:56.000 It did.
00:06:57.000 When?
00:06:58.000 Recently.
00:06:59.000 I thought they said that he had to have pulled the trigger.
00:07:01.000 He did.
00:07:03.000 Accidentally.
00:07:05.000 But he lied and he said he didn't pull the trigger.
00:07:08.000 People get nervous.
00:07:10.000 Taron Butler from Taron Tactical.
00:07:12.000 Yeah.
00:07:12.000 What does this say here?
00:07:14.000 Medical investigator rules Baldwin set shooting an accident.
00:07:17.000 Well, of course, he's not trying to kill that lady in front of everybody.
00:07:22.000 I understand why they're saying, but that doesn't mean he wasn't negligible.
00:07:25.000 Just because it was an accident.
00:07:26.000 What did the guy from Taron Tactical say?
00:07:28.000 It's impossible for that gun to shoot.
00:07:30.000 He showed me the gun.
00:07:31.000 I have a video of it.
00:07:32.000 I was like, I don't want to start trouble and release this.
00:07:34.000 But in the video, he has the gun.
00:07:36.000 Not the actual gun, but the same model gun.
00:07:39.000 And he's showing how the action on this works.
00:07:42.000 And he's like, it's not possible for the hammer to go forward and just accidentally fire.
00:07:48.000 And he cocks it back and shows how it works.
00:07:50.000 He's like, you have to engage the trigger.
00:07:52.000 And he's showing everybody in this video how it works.
00:07:56.000 Alec probably had the gun in his hand, and it's just kind of fun to pull the trigger.
00:08:01.000 Right?
00:08:02.000 And if you have a gun, you go like, I wonder what this would feel like.
00:08:06.000 I wonder what this would feel like.
00:08:08.000 And then...
00:08:09.000 Isn't it fucking wild that Hollywood, in general, is very anti-gun?
00:08:15.000 Yes.
00:08:15.000 But they promote guns more than any other media on the planet.
00:08:20.000 Right.
00:08:20.000 All their best movies, whether it's The Grey Man, or whether you're watching The Terminal List, or Mission Impossible, it's all guns save the day.
00:08:30.000 Guns kill aliens, guns kill werewolves, guns kill everyone.
00:08:35.000 Everyone bad gets killed by guns.
00:08:38.000 That's right.
00:08:38.000 But guns are bad and you shouldn't have guns.
00:08:40.000 It's crazy.
00:08:41.000 Well, these are also the same people that live in these 20,000 square foot homes and fly private jets, but talk endlessly about climate change.
00:08:51.000 The same people.
00:08:53.000 So it's like, to really...
00:08:56.000 And I get it.
00:08:57.000 I get it.
00:08:58.000 Because if they start paying you the kind of money they make to play pretend, They start paying you that kind of money to play dress up.
00:09:06.000 80 million a year, 40 million a year.
00:09:09.000 You start to go crazy.
00:09:11.000 And when you develop this cognitive dissonance where you see yourself as something completely different than what other people see and your behavior as something that's completely different.
00:09:26.000 So they don't view that as hypocrisy.
00:09:30.000 They view it as like, yeah, guns are bad, but we can make them good.
00:09:39.000 You see how crazy that sounds?
00:09:41.000 So crazy.
00:09:41.000 But that's literally the way they think.
00:09:44.000 Guns are not good, but in our hands, they're great because we can craft a narrative that makes them justified to have.
00:09:53.000 And that woman that lives in her house who protected herself against an intruder, nah, that's not Mission Impossible.
00:10:00.000 So that's how crazy they are.
00:10:03.000 And it doesn't seem odd if you think about what they do.
00:10:06.000 They make fake things.
00:10:08.000 That's right.
00:10:08.000 So, of course, they're fake.
00:10:09.000 Everything they do is pretend.
00:10:11.000 And they're all fake people.
00:10:12.000 You know, we've talked about this before on this show.
00:10:14.000 I mean, actors and actresses, for the most part, have never met themselves.
00:10:19.000 They don't know who they are.
00:10:20.000 If they did, they'd probably not be that good at their job, which is, like, every dumb role that I get that I audition for, I've booked none, by the way, because I'm still just me.
00:10:33.000 Trying to be a thing, but I can't...
00:10:36.000 I'm not good at...
00:10:38.000 that good at being...
00:10:40.000 I'm not horrible, but I'm not...
00:10:42.000 You're not crazy enough to pretend to be someone else to be convincing.
00:10:46.000 Yeah, if you put me in a thing, it's like, oh, Tim Dillon is the thing.
00:10:49.000 Even if I pretend to be Meghan McCain, people go, that's Tim Dillon.
00:10:52.000 Like, it's not...
00:10:52.000 None of my imitations are the person.
00:10:54.000 Rachel Levine.
00:10:55.000 Rachel Levine, whoever it is.
00:10:57.000 Some people went, that's Rachel.
00:10:59.000 But...
00:11:00.000 It's one of those things where the actors I know that I'm friends with are usually good-looking, but they're not distinct-looking, and they can fit easily into any of these characters.
00:11:12.000 And they don't really know who they are.
00:11:14.000 So if somebody tells them, like, six-year-olds should get gender reassignment surgery, they go, okay.
00:11:20.000 Okay.
00:11:21.000 And if they go, no one should have a gun, they go, okay.
00:11:24.000 Like, there's no...
00:11:26.000 They don't have opinions.
00:11:28.000 Well, it's also that system is set up so that you're always trying to get chosen for things.
00:11:34.000 That's right.
00:11:34.000 So you're always saying the things that you think people want to hear, and you're always espousing the correct political philosophies and positions on things.
00:11:43.000 Because your whole gig is trying to get people to choose you for something.
00:11:47.000 That's right.
00:11:48.000 So you can't do anything controversial or...
00:11:51.000 You can't escape those lines.
00:11:52.000 And we need actors.
00:11:53.000 Here's the thing.
00:11:53.000 You need movies.
00:11:54.000 You need actors.
00:11:55.000 And you need them to be dumb.
00:11:57.000 You need them to be good looking and dumb.
00:11:59.000 And you need them to just do what they're told.
00:12:01.000 Because you can't have an actor on set going, well, I actually think it would be a nightmare.
00:12:05.000 And every suggestion that most actors have is bad because they're stupid.
00:12:10.000 So you need them to be exactly kind of what they are.
00:12:14.000 It would just be nice if we could just turn down the volume on the politics and everything else and just kind of let them do what they're good for, which is to pretend to be other people.
00:12:26.000 So you need that.
00:12:27.000 You don't want to see me.
00:12:29.000 You don't want to have the gray man with me.
00:12:33.000 You want Ethan Hawke.
00:12:34.000 You don't want, what's the thing on Stranger Things?
00:12:37.000 I can't play all of the kids on Stranger Things.
00:12:40.000 It would be odd.
00:12:41.000 People wouldn't like it.
00:12:42.000 You can't do like a young adult Twilight with me in it.
00:12:46.000 So they need to exist, but they just can't talk about, you know, espionage or whatever they're talking about.
00:12:54.000 Unless it's about their movie.
00:12:56.000 Yeah, I don't need, you know...
00:12:59.000 Don't you think that more people are aware of that now than ever?
00:13:02.000 And one of the things that's like the Johnny Depp trial or Alex Baldwin getting in trouble, we're realizing more and more that these people are insane.
00:13:09.000 Well, they're crazy, but it's also what happens, I think, When, you know, everything is at your fingertips.
00:13:17.000 You've removed most of the struggles that normal people go through.
00:13:21.000 And you are just...
00:13:23.000 You're incredibly lucky and privileged and you inhabit this rarefied air that very few people do.
00:13:30.000 And you have, like, kind of the time...
00:13:34.000 And you have the ability to go as crazy as you can.
00:13:39.000 And that most people maybe don't have the time.
00:13:42.000 I have friends where I'm like, thank God you have work.
00:13:45.000 Thank God you have a job.
00:13:46.000 Thank God you have a family.
00:13:48.000 And thank God you don't have a lot of money.
00:13:50.000 Because you don't need to have the freedom to be the full version of yourself.
00:13:56.000 That can be a little bit of a problem.
00:13:58.000 Is this an intervention?
00:14:00.000 No, no, no.
00:14:01.000 I think you're kind of poor, to be honest.
00:14:04.000 I've spent time in the Hamptons.
00:14:06.000 No one thinks you have a lot of money there.
00:14:08.000 They think you have, like, cute money.
00:14:10.000 It's like podcast money.
00:14:11.000 It's like cute.
00:14:12.000 But these people own third world countries.
00:14:15.000 So, no, I'm here to help you.
00:14:17.000 I think you're struggling.
00:14:18.000 I think you're, you know, I mean, it's, you know.
00:14:21.000 But it is a hypocrisy talking about that.
00:14:24.000 Yes, you are now the wealthiest comedian really other than Seinfeld that's ever lived.
00:14:31.000 That's pretty much the truth.
00:14:33.000 I think Kevin Hart has more money than me.
00:14:35.000 That might be true.
00:14:36.000 Yeah, I think he does.
00:14:37.000 But he won't.
00:14:39.000 You know what I mean?
00:14:40.000 What?
00:14:41.000 You leave the planet a billionaire.
00:14:46.000 I think so.
00:14:47.000 I think so.
00:14:49.000 If you would listen to me.
00:14:50.000 What do I have to do?
00:14:51.000 Well, if you get into the weed game, you're a billionaire in a week.
00:14:55.000 I'm getting into the weed game then.
00:14:57.000 I'm telling you, like, you just, with a few good decisions, with a few good decisions, you're, I mean, you gotta be.
00:15:06.000 You're gonna get a billion.
00:15:07.000 And Kevin could too, but you're up there.
00:15:10.000 And it's wild to see, you know?
00:15:13.000 And you deserve it, but, you know, I'm horribly jealous.
00:15:20.000 And every minute I say, it should be me.
00:15:24.000 It could be you.
00:15:25.000 I tell Ben, I go, it should be me.
00:15:27.000 Well, you're already on a fucking pretty...
00:15:29.000 Oh, Patreon?
00:15:30.000 That's nothing.
00:15:32.000 That's embarrassing.
00:15:32.000 Yeah, but you're on the way up.
00:15:34.000 Well, that's very nice of you to say.
00:15:35.000 This is just the beginning.
00:15:36.000 I mean, if you go back to my podcast 10 years ago, I wasn't making any money.
00:15:40.000 Well, what's weird right now is that, like...
00:15:44.000 It is weird.
00:15:45.000 We're just talking about, like, society is weird in the sense that there is a lot of money and then there's a lot of problems.
00:15:53.000 And we're learning that money doesn't fix all the problems.
00:15:56.000 This is something interesting.
00:15:58.000 You can throw money at things and it's not fixed, right?
00:16:00.000 Sometimes it creates problems.
00:16:01.000 Sometimes it creates problems.
00:16:03.000 And then you're at a very interesting place where you go, well, California's got a $21 billion surplus.
00:16:08.000 And you go, you should be able to just fix it.
00:16:13.000 Homelessness, whatever.
00:16:14.000 21 billion dollars.
00:16:16.000 More than you thought you would have.
00:16:17.000 But you realize that human beings gum that system up.
00:16:21.000 A lot.
00:16:22.000 And you go, oh, it's not as easy as we think to just fix something with money.
00:16:26.000 How does California ever get fixed?
00:16:29.000 Because when we were just talking about it in the lobby.
00:16:31.000 It has the most stunning natural beauty of any state.
00:16:34.000 It has...
00:16:36.000 So many things that are positive, but then there are so many problems, and those problems seem insurmountable.
00:16:45.000 Now.
00:16:46.000 Now.
00:16:47.000 But they didn't three, four years ago.
00:16:48.000 That's right.
00:16:48.000 That's what's crazy.
00:16:50.000 I remember in 2018, it seemed like LA was a great place to be.
00:16:53.000 Just a lot of traffic, but...
00:16:55.000 Pretty fucking fun.
00:16:56.000 That's right.
00:16:57.000 In New York, there in the early 90s, a rockette was stabbed in the back in Central Park, one of the people who does the Radio City Christmas show.
00:17:06.000 And it was on the cover of the New York Post and the Times, all these places.
00:17:09.000 And it was this watershed moment where people in New York City were like, fuck.
00:17:14.000 We have a problem.
00:17:16.000 This is a...
00:17:17.000 It was a horrifying image, very visceral image of the criminal element that was running the city.
00:17:24.000 People were getting stabbed and shot and murdered, junkies everywhere.
00:17:28.000 And then people...
00:17:29.000 And that was what led to Giuliani.
00:17:31.000 And then Giuliani really did clean up New York.
00:17:33.000 You know, he's lost his mind a little bit now, but he absolutely cleaned up New York.
00:17:37.000 And he stopped people from loitering and doing all these things.
00:17:40.000 People do not want to hear that.
00:17:44.000 We're good to go.
00:17:59.000 And they can kind of stop what the mayor from doing.
00:18:02.000 And, you know, you need to outlaw camping.
00:18:07.000 You need to outlaw it.
00:18:08.000 You need to figure out another way.
00:18:09.000 You cannot if people live on the street.
00:18:11.000 You have to figure out a way to house these people.
00:18:15.000 And it's very difficult.
00:18:17.000 The problem with California is New York is smaller and people's decisions affect other people's lives more.
00:18:25.000 And California, Pasadena has nothing to do with Manhattan Beach, which has nothing to do with Thousand Oaks, which has nothing to do with West Hollywood.
00:18:32.000 So everybody's kind of in their own little spot.
00:18:35.000 And if they're not immediately affected by it, they just go, huh?
00:18:39.000 So New York, you do have that idea of this is an organism.
00:18:42.000 It's a city.
00:18:42.000 We're all on the subway.
00:18:44.000 We're all affected.
00:18:46.000 So people, I think, are more likely to invest themselves in having certain outcomes in New York.
00:18:54.000 Don't you think it's a different time, too?
00:18:56.000 Because in the 90s, when you go back to the 90s, when Giuliani took over in New York, there was no social media.
00:19:02.000 So there wasn't these rigid ideologies that people have carved into their skin.
00:19:09.000 Yes.
00:19:10.000 I think there was no social media.
00:19:13.000 And I think people, you know, we're not as coarsened as they are now with the idea that people become very cynical now, which I get.
00:19:22.000 I'm one of them.
00:19:23.000 And they tend to look at all political solutions as inherently fallible, that they won't work because politicians have proven again and again to fail all the time.
00:19:35.000 And you just end up being very cynical about it.
00:19:37.000 And even, you know, guys that have good ideas and say the right things, you go, yeah, but you're a politician.
00:19:43.000 But your nature as a human being is to tell me something I would like to hear.
00:19:47.000 And then we see the big...
00:19:49.000 Even Trump, you know, who came in and said, I want to do this, that, and the other thing.
00:19:52.000 There are all of these forces that keep Trump from doing these things, whether you agree with them or not.
00:19:57.000 You can't just wave a wand and make things happen.
00:20:01.000 There's this corrupt system that has gone on forever and...
00:20:08.000 The answer to that is, who knows?
00:20:11.000 You don't want to put a dictator in.
00:20:12.000 You don't want a guy with absolute power.
00:20:14.000 But you also look at the system we have now as this weird...
00:20:18.000 You know, closed doors, behind the scenes, where everybody's out for themself.
00:20:23.000 And you go, how do you get anything done?
00:20:25.000 How does anything get done?
00:20:27.000 When we have congresspeople engaging in insider trading or out there- Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:20:32.000 Yeah.
00:20:32.000 Who's doing that?
00:20:33.000 Pelosi.
00:20:34.000 Really?
00:20:34.000 Nancy Pelosi and her husband.
00:20:35.000 Are you sure?
00:20:36.000 I would guess.
00:20:38.000 If I had to guess, I would say they are taking information and weaponizing it and using it to enrich themselves.
00:20:45.000 How is that not illegal?
00:20:46.000 Can you turn the AC up?
00:20:47.000 It's a little warm in here, Jamie.
00:20:49.000 Crank it up a little bit.
00:20:51.000 I just don't understand how that's not illegal.
00:20:53.000 I just really can't imagine.
00:20:55.000 Did you see when they asked Nancy Pelosi about it?
00:20:58.000 And she's like, no, not at all.
00:21:00.000 Push the microphone down.
00:21:02.000 Okay, bye.
00:21:03.000 Part of the reason why somebody like her might want to stay in office forever is because if she gets out, they might start looking into stuff.
00:21:11.000 Yeah, then they come for her.
00:21:11.000 Right?
00:21:12.000 So maybe you go, why is this old?
00:21:14.000 Because she's an old dinosaur.
00:21:16.000 She's a pterodactyl.
00:21:18.000 And you go, why is she in there?
00:21:20.000 And you go, well, part of her being in there might be a way to insulate herself from people looking into things and going, what the fuck's going on?
00:21:27.000 Yeah, the husband just dumped five million into Nvidia right before they decided to do something with chips.
00:21:36.000 They started to do something with semiconductor chips in the United States.
00:21:40.000 Right.
00:21:40.000 So right before they passed this, he goes and spends five million on Nvidia stock.
00:21:45.000 And those are the Democrats.
00:21:46.000 Those are supposed to be the people that are for the working class.
00:21:49.000 Which is funny.
00:21:50.000 And they're so old.
00:21:51.000 He sold it right before, too, which is a very strange thing that happened.
00:21:55.000 I don't understand that part.
00:21:55.000 What do you mean?
00:21:56.000 He sold it when it was down and then bought more?
00:21:58.000 He bought it, and then it seems like a week or two after everyone started making a note of it, they sold it.
00:22:03.000 And they said he sold it at a loss.
00:22:06.000 Oh, he probably had to cover his ass.
00:22:08.000 See, right here, it says he sold it at a loss.
00:22:10.000 Wow.
00:22:11.000 He sold it to avoid any misinformation.
00:22:13.000 Click on that.
00:22:14.000 That was an awkward dinner.
00:22:18.000 Yeah, she's like, get it out.
00:22:19.000 Dump it.
00:22:20.000 Can you imagine her just going, dump it.
00:22:22.000 Dump it.
00:22:23.000 What did you do, Paul?
00:22:25.000 Dump it.
00:22:26.000 I told you to do it under another name.
00:22:29.000 Oh my God.
00:22:30.000 That's amazing that he would blow five million at a loss.
00:22:35.000 Wow.
00:22:37.000 Wow, he sold millions worth of stocks in chipmaker NVIDIA at a loss the day before the Senate passed a multi-billion dollar bill aimed in part at boosting US chip manufacturing that sent NVIDIA shares surging, a decision Pelosi's office said was to avoid further misinformation about the couple's investments.
00:22:56.000 Oh my god, that is amazing.
00:22:58.000 What kind of fucking misinformation would it be when we actually have the information?
00:23:02.000 That's what's wild.
00:23:03.000 It's not misinformation.
00:23:04.000 They just call things misinformation.
00:23:06.000 Yeah, it's information.
00:23:07.000 Yeah, it's actual, real information.
00:23:10.000 So this is the problem, you know?
00:23:11.000 It's like, how do you, when a country has reached this point where these are the actors, and they're bad actors, and we know that, and this is only what we know about, you know?
00:23:24.000 The next inevitable step, which again, I don't think is good, is a dictatorship.
00:23:29.000 It's somebody who comes in and executes all these people and goes, I'm now the...
00:23:34.000 Which is not good, but that does seem to be the next inevitable step.
00:23:42.000 They're going to do that through a method where it doesn't look like a dictatorship.
00:23:46.000 Sure.
00:23:46.000 Like a social credit score system that's attached to a centralized digital currency.
00:23:51.000 That's right.
00:23:51.000 You see Maxine Waters the other day talking about a digital currency.
00:23:54.000 That's right.
00:23:54.000 They want to compete with China.
00:23:55.000 They can delete you.
00:23:56.000 They want to delete...
00:23:57.000 They've always wanted...
00:23:59.000 To delete you.
00:24:00.000 Like I used to, you know, a couple weeks ago I was getting 100,000 views on an Instagram story.
00:24:05.000 Now I'm getting 30. I don't know what happened, but they just shut something off.
00:24:07.000 They could just shut things off.
00:24:08.000 You notice these weird things that they do and you notice it on YouTube.
00:24:12.000 So they want to be, and eventually they want to fuck with your money.
00:24:16.000 They want to fuck with your money because that's the heart and soul of what they can do.
00:24:20.000 So that centralized currency or whatever it is, they will just enforce compliance by the terrifying reality that they can take it all from you.
00:24:32.000 Immediately.
00:24:32.000 And there's got to be some...
00:24:34.000 Well, we know there's coordination between Twitter and the White House.
00:24:37.000 Yes.
00:24:38.000 Is that Alex Berenson case?
00:24:39.000 Do you know what's going on with that?
00:24:40.000 I know Alex Berenson.
00:24:42.000 He was deleted from Twitter, right?
00:24:44.000 And he got back on.
00:24:45.000 He won in court.
00:24:46.000 Oh, interesting.
00:24:46.000 He's back on Twitter.
00:24:48.000 Not only that, but now he wants to sue the White House because he has documents that show that the White House directly contacted Twitter.
00:24:54.000 About the things that he was proven to be correct about, which is why he was let back on Twitter.
00:24:59.000 They were saying, what are you doing about Alex Berenson?
00:25:01.000 The White House directly contacted Twitter asking what they're doing about Alex Berenson.
00:25:06.000 I remember with you, they said something about you, too.
00:25:10.000 Yeah, that the government needs to do more.
00:25:11.000 The government needs to do more.
00:25:12.000 Jen Psaki.
00:25:13.000 Jen Psaki.
00:25:13.000 The government should do more.
00:25:14.000 Or that Spotify should do more.
00:25:16.000 So they believe that these are their shock troops that can take people off that they don't like.
00:25:24.000 Yeah.
00:25:24.000 Yeah.
00:25:25.000 And then the people on the far left, I think, are also waking up because they are starting to realize that journalists like Chris Hedges, who was a war correspondent, who's a socialist writer and a brilliant writer, a lot of his stuff was taken off because it happened to be on RT. They took all Chris Hedges' show On Contact.
00:25:43.000 They had all of these hours and hours of him conducting interviews with people.
00:25:47.000 Abby Martin.
00:25:48.000 Her entire library was removed.
00:25:50.000 Entire library.
00:25:50.000 Because it's on RT. So I think people even, you know, it's not necessarily ideology.
00:25:55.000 It's if, are you a critic of the current regime?
00:26:00.000 Are you a critic of the current, the way that the empire is manifesting itself, however it is, are you a critic of that?
00:26:08.000 And if you are, how do we deal with you?
00:26:10.000 How do we deal with you?
00:26:12.000 And we'll take the social media and then eventually We'll take the money.
00:26:17.000 I mean, that's probably what ends up happening.
00:26:19.000 What do you think they're gonna do to you?
00:26:22.000 I don't know.
00:26:23.000 If I stay where I am right now, if I don't get to your level, which is gonna be...
00:26:27.000 I don't think I will get to your level.
00:26:30.000 If I stay where I am right now, probably nothing.
00:26:32.000 If I get bigger, I don't know.
00:26:35.000 They might shut me off, or they might try to like...
00:26:37.000 You know, they demonetize a lot of our stuff.
00:26:40.000 Thank God for awesome companies like Patreon.
00:26:45.000 You know, Substack is doing that now.
00:26:48.000 Substack has got podcasts now.
00:26:49.000 I know.
00:26:50.000 They had a meeting with me.
00:26:51.000 They have no money.
00:26:52.000 Really?
00:26:52.000 Yeah, they have no money.
00:26:53.000 I'm not moving from Patreon to Substack for no money.
00:26:55.000 Why would I do that?
00:26:56.000 It's insane.
00:26:58.000 They had a meeting with me and they're like, yeah, we want you to come over because you like it.
00:27:02.000 I'm like, are you on crack?
00:27:05.000 I know you had one of them here, and they're nice enough people.
00:27:08.000 Great guy.
00:27:09.000 Yeah, great.
00:27:09.000 Great ethics.
00:27:10.000 Good.
00:27:12.000 What if Spotify came to you, and instead of $100 million, they said, don't you like it?
00:27:16.000 Don't you want to come over because you like it?
00:27:18.000 It's like, no.
00:27:19.000 Get the fucking checkbook out, you cheap fucks.
00:27:23.000 What are we talking about?
00:27:25.000 We're wasting our goddamn time.
00:27:27.000 And yeah, I like Substack, and good for them.
00:27:32.000 But yeah, I don't know.
00:27:34.000 I mean, we're all, every day I go, I try to make good moves with money because I go, you know, we're all living at the whims of an algorithm we don't understand.
00:27:43.000 And we have no idea who the fuck these people are.
00:27:45.000 Good for Netflix.
00:27:46.000 I just put a special out on Netflix.
00:27:50.000 Your new material is fucking fantastic.
00:27:52.000 Well, thank you.
00:27:53.000 Netflix is called The Jews Started AIDS. Is that real?
00:27:56.000 Yeah, it's the special.
00:27:57.000 It's called The Jews Started AIDS. But is that a true fact?
00:27:58.000 It is.
00:27:59.000 And Netflix has not given me any notes on it.
00:28:02.000 They actually said thank you for doing this.
00:28:05.000 No.
00:28:06.000 Ted Sarandos called me personally and was like, thanks.
00:28:08.000 No, it's a joke.
00:28:10.000 But the new special I put out, we say retard and dyke and faggot.
00:28:13.000 We do jokes about the vaccine.
00:28:14.000 And they didn't give us any notes and they just said, oh, you're a big idiot and you're a comedian and you can say whatever you want.
00:28:20.000 So that's good.
00:28:22.000 That's a nice thing.
00:28:23.000 And no one really online got too mad about it.
00:28:25.000 One guy wrote, because I made fun of fast food workers, he's like, they don't own the companies.
00:28:30.000 And I'm like, thanks.
00:28:32.000 Thanks, guy.
00:28:33.000 But, you know, but nobody was that mad.
00:28:36.000 I think everyone's...
00:28:37.000 We're getting to the point now where things are...
00:28:40.000 People just trying to have fun again.
00:28:42.000 We were just having that conversation with Louis.
00:28:44.000 Yes.
00:28:44.000 Where it's like he could see...
00:28:46.000 He's saying the green grass is coming through the snow.
00:28:49.000 Yes.
00:28:49.000 All the cool kids now are unwoke.
00:28:53.000 Some of them are going back to Christianity because it's the only way to be rebellious.
00:28:58.000 Yeah.
00:28:58.000 Because, you know, everybody's blue-haired, non-binary, talking about piss orgies, and that's like, it's the cover of Newsweek, so you have to be like a Catholic, Opus Dei, you know, like, saying the rosary to be a fucking problem now.
00:29:16.000 Yeah.
00:29:16.000 Like, you used to be able to just dye your hair and get a tattoo and a nose ring.
00:29:20.000 Now that's like, oh, what are you running for Congress?
00:29:22.000 So now the other side of it is a lot of people are kind of going, which is there's elements of that that are good, and there's elements of that that are not great, probably.
00:29:31.000 But, you know, that's what young kids are doing now, because they're like, fuck this shit.
00:29:35.000 They're like, we...
00:29:36.000 They've realized how empty...
00:29:40.000 This current world is that we've created, spiritually, for people.
00:29:44.000 Because it is empty.
00:29:45.000 It is empty.
00:29:45.000 It's just very empty.
00:29:47.000 It's about money and profit and everything has no history or tradition.
00:29:53.000 Everything's so disorienting.
00:29:55.000 Things happen so quickly that the pace of change is like making people go, what the fuck?
00:30:00.000 And people need to situate themselves in the universe and they don't know how to do it.
00:30:06.000 And they're going, dude, this rock is spinning and I don't know what's going on.
00:30:11.000 Every day there's a new edict about what you can say, what's real and what's not, and people are going back to things that root them, and one of them is religion.
00:30:20.000 I think religion has a lot of positives.
00:30:22.000 I mean, there's some negatives, but I think religion has positives, for sure.
00:30:27.000 It's definitely a good moral scaffolding for a lot of people.
00:30:29.000 You need something to ground you, make you humble, make you realize that you are living for a finite amount of time on earth.
00:30:38.000 You should treat people with respect.
00:30:41.000 A code is good to have a moral code.
00:30:44.000 I'm not saying what yours should be or not, but just the constant stuffing money down your throat, having tons of meaningless sex, constantly obsessing over material things, these are probably...
00:30:58.000 Ultimately, spiritually empty things.
00:31:00.000 Definitely.
00:31:01.000 Yeah.
00:31:02.000 I'm starting a church, by the way.
00:31:04.000 That's the only way to get out of this.
00:31:05.000 We need a new church.
00:31:06.000 We need a new church, and me and Caitlyn Jenner are starting a church.
00:31:09.000 It's for progressive rich people that are also racist.
00:31:16.000 It's important to have a religion that recognizes, as a gay person, who doesn't really...
00:31:22.000 You know, gays are fine, and Caitlyn doesn't really like trans people.
00:31:25.000 So we are the figureheads of the church, and we are ministering mainly to rich heterosexuals.
00:31:32.000 Do you get heat from the gay population?
00:31:34.000 Do gay people get upset at you?
00:31:35.000 No, they don't really care that much.
00:31:37.000 I mean, they would if they knew more about me.
00:31:42.000 But everyone's in their own world now.
00:31:44.000 So if you're in my little podcast world, you're in that.
00:31:48.000 If you watch SNL, it's a different world.
00:31:51.000 We're on a different planet.
00:31:52.000 If you watch SNL every week...
00:31:55.000 Like, like, put it on and go, eh!
00:31:58.000 Like, if you're, then we're on a date, you don't know, you don't know who I am.
00:32:02.000 And you would hate me if you knew about me, but you don't even know who I am.
00:32:06.000 So everybody's kind of doing their own thing.
00:32:08.000 And if you listen to me every week, or if you watch me and Christine and Tom on the live stream, watch people like crush penises with stilettos or whatever those sick fucks are watching.
00:32:17.000 I mean, then yeah, it's just different worlds.
00:32:20.000 What they're doing over there at your mom's house is fucking wild.
00:32:24.000 It's wild.
00:32:25.000 It's wild.
00:32:25.000 No one's ever done it before to have a pay-per-view completely uncensored.
00:32:30.000 I mean, it's like the worst of LiveLeak, the worst of- It feels very old-school internet.
00:32:36.000 Yeah.
00:32:36.000 People really pull up videos.
00:32:38.000 It's cringe.
00:32:39.000 It's crazy.
00:32:39.000 It's fun.
00:32:40.000 But they're also brilliantly really funny.
00:32:42.000 And really good podcasters.
00:32:44.000 Every other thing that probably tried to do something like this or back in the day, you didn't have funny people that were like, they're able to actually put it in the context of a show, and it's great.
00:32:53.000 But no one's ever done it like that.
00:32:54.000 I mean, we had websites before, like, do you remember the Style Project?
00:32:58.000 Yes.
00:32:58.000 The Style Project was fucking awesome.
00:33:00.000 That was the place where you'd go to see the most...
00:33:02.000 Fucked up shit.
00:33:03.000 ...disturbing, fucked up parts of the world.
00:33:06.000 Of the world.
00:33:06.000 And you'd find them on the internet, and it opened people's eyes to it.
00:33:09.000 But now, to have a show like that, with comedians and guests...
00:33:13.000 Oh, yeah.
00:33:14.000 I almost threw up three or four times when I... Your stomach...
00:33:16.000 You know, you try to...
00:33:17.000 The first couple of videos you watch, you try to go like, I'm gonna be tough.
00:33:22.000 And then like you get to a point where it's like your body has these reactions independent of your mind Yeah, like your stomach starts you start to feel something you go oh In my stomach.
00:33:33.000 Like, they played a video last night of a woman's stiletto heel, like, crushing a guy's penis through a hole in the floor.
00:33:41.000 And it was really tough.
00:33:45.000 There's still a week and a half to watch it, yeah.
00:33:49.000 I just don't understand why they enjoyed that so much.
00:33:51.000 They enjoyed it so much.
00:33:52.000 The glee in Tom and Christina's faces when people watch it.
00:33:55.000 Yeah, well, they're sick!
00:33:57.000 But you can't watch stuff like that and not be a little sick, but they're comics.
00:34:02.000 They have problems.
00:34:05.000 But it's a great show.
00:34:07.000 It's a fun show.
00:34:08.000 No, it's great.
00:34:09.000 I'm glad they're out here, too.
00:34:10.000 They have an incredible studio, isn't it?
00:34:14.000 Amazing.
00:34:14.000 When do they ban abortion here, do you know?
00:34:16.000 I think it's already six weeks, which is basically a ban.
00:34:20.000 Yeah.
00:34:21.000 You know, six weeks is a ban, because if you miss your period and it's only two weeks later than that, and now you can't get an abortion, it's basically banned.
00:34:28.000 Interesting.
00:34:29.000 So it's six weeks.
00:34:30.000 Yeah.
00:34:31.000 You know, all of these issues, the UK seems to have a decent...
00:34:34.000 Yeah.
00:34:34.000 The UK, they don't do the late term.
00:34:37.000 There's like three months.
00:34:39.000 Traveling outside of America is just a lot of things we could learn from other countries where we don't have to be insane all the time about everything.
00:34:46.000 Everything doesn't have to be this incredibly polarizing issue.
00:34:51.000 There can be things where it goes, yeah, I think Germany and England, they have a law where it's like, yeah, within a certain amount of time, you can have an abortion.
00:35:00.000 After that, Yeah.
00:35:03.000 You can't.
00:35:03.000 That's the reasonable perspective.
00:35:06.000 Yeah.
00:35:06.000 There's got to be a little bit of a, but there's no value in compromise.
00:35:11.000 The reasonable perspective is always cases of rape, cases of incest, children, all those things.
00:35:16.000 Yes.
00:35:17.000 And then time.
00:35:18.000 How much time?
00:35:19.000 At what point in time is that a viable human being?
00:35:22.000 100%.
00:35:23.000 Because they're getting into these six-month time periods.
00:35:26.000 No, that's crazy.
00:35:27.000 You know, we talked about this thing on the podcast the other day where there was an article that was talking about how people got arrested for an abortion because of Facebook messages.
00:35:37.000 That's crazy.
00:35:38.000 But then we looked into it.
00:35:39.000 It was fake.
00:35:39.000 It's way worse than that.
00:35:41.000 Oh, wow.
00:35:41.000 It was a young girl, and her mother got her the abortion pill online.
00:35:47.000 She took the pill, had a stillborn baby, and then they buried it.
00:35:52.000 And apparently...
00:35:53.000 There was thermal damage to the baby which indicates they tried to burn it and then they apparently did they rebury it?
00:36:01.000 Is that what happened?
00:36:04.000 And what state was this?
00:36:05.000 I'm not sure what state, but when people wrote the article, the article was, people are getting arrested for an abortion because of Facebook messages.
00:36:12.000 You know, like, oh my god, this is Big Brother.
00:36:14.000 But then you look at the actual story, and it's way more horrific.
00:36:19.000 It's like, you know, I mean, it was six months into the pregnancy, she takes these pills, it's stillborn, has the abortion, then buries the baby, and apparently burned it.
00:36:35.000 Which is, yeah, that's not good.
00:36:37.000 It's not good.
00:36:39.000 Yeah, this is not, I mean, you're clearly, you feel like you did something wrong, and you're trying to cover it up.
00:36:45.000 It's, yeah, well, these are the issues that there's, you know, that's not good.
00:36:51.000 No.
00:36:51.000 There has to be some type of, you know, standard.
00:36:56.000 At a certain point, it's like, when are you allowed to take that pill?
00:36:59.000 Are you allowed to take the abortion pill four weeks in?
00:37:02.000 Well, six months, that's a fully functioning, that's a baby that could be born and have a life outside of the womb.
00:37:07.000 And they do all the time.
00:37:08.000 Yeah, so that to me seems crazy, and I feel like...
00:37:10.000 To most people that seems crazy.
00:37:12.000 I don't think anybody, this is the thing, it's like the vast majority of people that aren't on Twitter and that aren't participating, that are not making money off being inflammatory or whatever, they have, like if you go to people and you go, hey, should somebody have an abortion at six months?
00:37:29.000 They go, no.
00:37:30.000 They go no.
00:37:31.000 If you go to them and go, hey, should somebody who's six years old be able to permanently alter their gender?
00:37:36.000 They go, no.
00:37:37.000 This is the vast majority.
00:37:39.000 The issue we have is that none of those people have any representation.
00:37:44.000 In the government.
00:37:45.000 And really, they're losing it in the media, too.
00:37:48.000 Yeah.
00:37:48.000 The only media that supports that sort of reasonable perspective is right-wing media, and they go all the way to the point of conception.
00:37:54.000 And they go all the way to the right, where they go, no abortions, ban gay marriage, this, that, and the other thing, no contraception.
00:38:00.000 Right.
00:38:01.000 And so reasonable people that are in the middle, which Kansas just voted to keep abortion.
00:38:06.000 And Kansas is not a blue state.
00:38:07.000 Yeah.
00:38:08.000 But Kansas, you know, there's a lot of people.
00:38:10.000 The reality is that it's not very sexy and you don't make a lot of money with a reasonable compromise.
00:38:18.000 Nobody wants to hear that.
00:38:19.000 Nobody gets rich online talking about that.
00:38:22.000 You get rich going, I'm right, everyone else is wrong.
00:38:25.000 All of my opponents and enemies should be destroyed and I should be the king.
00:38:28.000 People go, yay, money, money.
00:38:29.000 And most people don't know the actual laws.
00:38:32.000 That's right.
00:38:33.000 There was someone, some actress, went to France, and she was talking about how great it is to have croissants and women's rights.
00:38:40.000 But they don't realize that even in France, they have a limit on late-term abortions.
00:38:45.000 Of course!
00:38:46.000 I think it's 24 weeks in France.
00:38:48.000 This is what I mean.
00:38:51.000 There are...
00:38:54.000 Actual societies that have made peace with these issues.
00:38:58.000 Yeah.
00:38:59.000 They don't continue to plague them, but it does require a degree of rational, you know, compromise where, you know, America's an amazing place when you leave it for a little bit and you realize how dysfunctional it is,
00:39:15.000 how big it is, how large, how amazingly massive and vast it is, and how hard it is to get anyone on the same page about anything.
00:39:21.000 Because people in Louisiana, we're just talking about LA. There's people in, you know, the Hollywood Hills and people in fucking downtown LA have nothing to do with each other.
00:39:29.000 Well now imagine people in the backwoods of like Louisiana and the forest of Portland, Oregon.
00:39:35.000 I mean, this is such a massive country.
00:39:37.000 So many people to get on the same page about anything.
00:39:40.000 So you're gonna have these states that are gonna have fights and then they're gonna make laws and there's certain people move here and certain people move there, but it It's such a boring way to live, to me, to be constantly Uprooting yourself because of political reasons,
00:39:58.000 you know?
00:39:58.000 To me, it's just you become this person that you don't even know who you are anymore.
00:40:03.000 You're like, well, I'm a reaction to that, you know?
00:40:06.000 And I understand why people do it.
00:40:07.000 If I had kids, I don't want them living in a fucking hellscape of LA or whatever.
00:40:13.000 You know what I mean?
00:40:14.000 I get it.
00:40:15.000 Some people need to live somewhere where they have a safety for their family.
00:40:19.000 But it just feels like the lack of uniform standards in this country hurt it a little bit.
00:40:24.000 The idea that everybody is so all over the place hurts it a little bit.
00:40:29.000 There should be certain things we're able to come together on.
00:40:33.000 Yeah, but then do you think that it's a good thing to have states' rights where you have different laws?
00:40:39.000 I mean, the great thing about that is places that have, like, legalized marijuana.
00:40:43.000 Sure.
00:40:43.000 You know, there's places that have things that are outside the norm.
00:40:47.000 Yeah, I think states' rights are good.
00:40:49.000 And I don't think everybody...
00:40:50.000 I don't necessarily say it's a one-size-fits-all, but if you look at how profoundly dysfunctional The country is and how it just seems like infighting and everybody's at war all the time about all these things.
00:41:05.000 I feel like some of these fights are things that For the strength of our overall union should be decided, and that should be it.
00:41:18.000 Like, you know, I mean, if we're going to be a strong country that has a unified front in the face of other countries, I think we have to figure certain things out.
00:41:26.000 I don't think you can have 50 places doing everything completely differently.
00:41:30.000 That seems longer, because then why be a country?
00:41:34.000 And I'm not saying you shouldn't have different regional things, but what is...
00:41:38.000 I'm trying to find the reason we're a country right now.
00:41:41.000 You know what I mean?
00:41:42.000 Other than like the economic and the military and the fact that it's been a scam for 50 years of cheap credit and an economy based on war and blah, blah, blah.
00:41:50.000 But what would keep us a country going forward if we're all just going to spiral off into our own directions?
00:41:58.000 Patriotism.
00:41:59.000 Yeah.
00:42:00.000 You know, sports, Monday Night Football.
00:42:02.000 Like, what will keep us...
00:42:03.000 If Texas is their own thing, and California...
00:42:07.000 I mean, these states are big enough to be their own countries.
00:42:09.000 For sure, if it was Europe.
00:42:11.000 Yeah, so why would it be America in 30 years?
00:42:14.000 And it might not be.
00:42:15.000 It's just interesting.
00:42:16.000 Well, the fear is that to compete with other countries that are united, like China, we have to become closer to them.
00:42:22.000 And that's what Maxine Waters was saying.
00:42:24.000 That's right.
00:42:24.000 I mean, that's the thinly veiled...
00:42:27.000 And I've had the journalist Whitney Webb on my show, who has a book out, and she said that a lot of our AI and stuff, a lot of our tech people go, listen, in order to compete with Chinese technology, which is a lot of it's surveillance technology, things like that,
00:42:42.000 we have to have it first.
00:42:45.000 Ours has to be better, and we have to have technological hegemony, and we have to sell it to the world before they sell it to the world, and so we have to become a little bit of a police state, too.
00:42:56.000 I think it woke a lot of people's eyes up when the pandemic hit, when we couldn't get things shipped over here, how much they make overseas, how much we need.
00:43:04.000 90% of antibiotics are made in China, something crazy.
00:43:08.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
00:43:09.000 It's crazy.
00:43:10.000 Well, I mean, all of our electronics, there is something highly ironic about tweeting about woke politics on a phone that's made by slaves.
00:43:18.000 Of course.
00:43:19.000 Of course.
00:43:20.000 It's really like the height of it.
00:43:22.000 Yeah.
00:43:22.000 Because that's the number one distribution method, is through phones.
00:43:25.000 Yeah.
00:43:26.000 Or any kind of electronics.
00:43:27.000 It's really the only distribution method for that information.
00:43:30.000 It seems tough to beat China, and I don't know that it'll happen.
00:43:34.000 It does seem like they're a tough...
00:43:37.000 It's going to be tough.
00:43:38.000 Well, they're connected.
00:43:39.000 The government and the military is inexorably connected to business.
00:43:42.000 You cannot operate without the consent and the approval of the Chinese government.
00:43:47.000 It's a tough country to beat.
00:43:49.000 I, of course, believe in China.
00:43:51.000 I believe in one China.
00:43:52.000 I don't recognize Taiwan.
00:43:53.000 I never have since a boy.
00:43:54.000 I'm a young boy.
00:43:55.000 Do you speak Mandarin?
00:43:56.000 I speak fluent Mandarin.
00:43:57.000 Ever since I was a young child on Long Island, my parents said, we do not recognize Taiwan in this house.
00:44:02.000 You call it Chinese Taipei?
00:44:04.000 Yeah.
00:44:04.000 They go, we believe in one China.
00:44:06.000 And they explained it to me and we had a thing on the wall.
00:44:09.000 So that's where I'm at.
00:44:12.000 But Biden, you, and the rest of the cucks can go over there to Taiwan and do whatever the fuck you want.
00:44:18.000 But no, here's the other thing.
00:44:19.000 I read a little bit about that.
00:44:22.000 I'm like, yeah, of course China thinks Taiwan's part of them.
00:44:24.000 I'm not trying to start problems, but it's like, I'm not fighting these wars.
00:44:28.000 I'm not going to Ukraine, and I'm not going to Taiwan.
00:44:30.000 So figure it out.
00:44:32.000 We've got a million fucking nuclear weapons, and we're surrounded by oceans.
00:44:35.000 We should be fine.
00:44:37.000 Enough already.
00:44:38.000 Truly.
00:44:39.000 But not.
00:44:40.000 It's my stance.
00:44:40.000 Because they have supersonic weapons now.
00:44:43.000 Yeah, but so do we.
00:44:44.000 We have everything they have.
00:44:45.000 Do we?
00:44:46.000 Of course we do.
00:44:47.000 Do we 100% have supersonic weapons?
00:44:48.000 We absolutely have everything they have.
00:44:50.000 Why wouldn't we?
00:44:51.000 What, are we not as evil?
00:44:52.000 Are we not as smart?
00:44:53.000 Have we not been breeding sociopaths forever?
00:44:56.000 We invented it.
00:44:58.000 We blew everyone out.
00:44:58.000 They've never even used...
00:44:59.000 We're like, they have supersonic weapons.
00:45:01.000 We're the only ones who've used the fucking weapons.
00:45:03.000 We're the only ones who've really used nukes.
00:45:05.000 So I'm pretty sure that whatever some monster thought of, we also have.
00:45:10.000 We've also got a lot of shit.
00:45:11.000 What do we have?
00:45:11.000 Does the US have supersonic weapons?
00:45:12.000 Well, we won't even know.
00:45:13.000 We don't know what we have.
00:45:14.000 I think they said they're testing them, right?
00:45:16.000 Haven't they said that?
00:45:19.000 Yes, but we also wouldn't know what the fuck we have.
00:45:22.000 We don't know what we have?
00:45:23.000 That's the problem.
00:45:24.000 Who knows what we have?
00:45:25.000 But we got to get on the same page here.
00:45:29.000 You know what I mean?
00:45:29.000 Like, we need to just fucking cut the bullshit.
00:45:33.000 Stop.
00:45:34.000 Just have fucking rules.
00:45:37.000 Stop with it.
00:45:38.000 You can be trans when you're 17. 17?
00:45:43.000 17, but not fully.
00:45:45.000 You have to do a summer of, like, fake trans, and then 18, as soon as we'll, if we can draft you into war, you can go chop yourself.
00:45:54.000 But you're going to war.
00:45:56.000 You know what I mean?
00:45:58.000 Trans people get free operations, but they do two years in the military.
00:46:01.000 Boom.
00:46:02.000 Done.
00:46:03.000 Done.
00:46:04.000 It's over.
00:46:06.000 Roe v.
00:46:06.000 Wade, you have to have your children, but you have to give the...
00:46:09.000 Babies, we have to have them.
00:46:10.000 They go right into like some...
00:46:12.000 We conscript them into some thing.
00:46:13.000 They go, mind Bitcoin or whatever.
00:46:15.000 You have to have your baby.
00:46:16.000 We take it, though.
00:46:17.000 Property of the state.
00:46:18.000 Fine.
00:46:18.000 Be more responsible.
00:46:19.000 There's ways to do it.
00:46:21.000 We can solve all these problems.
00:46:23.000 Here's the thing with the cops.
00:46:25.000 You can't defund them.
00:46:26.000 They have to be there, but you should be able to slap them occasionally.
00:46:29.000 Citizens should be able to slap the police, and the police can't do anything back.
00:46:33.000 So there's got to be ways and rules to fix it.
00:46:36.000 Because otherwise we're just going to have all these problems forever, you know?
00:46:40.000 But what kind of, like in all seriousness, what kind of rules could be established that would unite people?
00:46:46.000 Is it a rule thing or is it a leader thing?
00:46:49.000 Like if we had a leader that united people?
00:46:50.000 You need a leader.
00:46:51.000 You need somebody who can say, listen.
00:46:55.000 Everybody, because everybody is both things inside of them, whether they know it or not.
00:47:00.000 Everybody is a psychopathic Texas gun nut, and everybody is a fat, blue-haired dyke in Portland.
00:47:06.000 We all have those two things in us.
00:47:08.000 We all have a crazy, meat-in-the-woods, proud boy, and an Antifa fat bitch in us.
00:47:15.000 And we have to...
00:47:17.000 Make sure that the fusion of those two things is what makes us great, you know?
00:47:21.000 We all have those two things.
00:47:23.000 All of us get mad at corporations and want to burn them down, but we don't go into the Portland Center and throw eggs at a Starbucks because we're sane.
00:47:31.000 And then all of us get mad when, like, I don't know, like somebody, whatever, like at a fast food place, someone of a different race doesn't get our order right.
00:47:40.000 We all get mad, but we don't go into the woods with a burning cross because we have things to do.
00:47:44.000 So...
00:47:46.000 What we have to realize is that we're Americans.
00:47:49.000 We're deeply selfish monsters that have been bred to destroy all life on Earth.
00:47:53.000 We have to not lose sight of that message.
00:47:57.000 We're here to fuck things up for everyone else, not each other.
00:48:02.000 And that's what we had in the 80s and the 90s.
00:48:05.000 We had a commitment to apathy while our leaders ran around pillaging the earth.
00:48:09.000 And we made great movies and great art, and it was fine.
00:48:12.000 Yes, people got killed, but people always get killed.
00:48:15.000 But now we're at war with each other.
00:48:18.000 We should just be enjoying the spoils of the end of the empire.
00:48:21.000 Truly.
00:48:22.000 You should be enjoying it.
00:48:24.000 So many people got killed, murdered, tortured, maimed for us to have all the nice things we have.
00:48:28.000 Do you know how insane it is to not enjoy it?
00:48:30.000 Do you know how crazy it is to not enjoy a McMansion, a flat screen TV, a McFlurry?
00:48:36.000 Do you know how much blood is in the street for those things?
00:48:38.000 And people act like they don't even matter.
00:48:40.000 And they're fighting about all this bullshit?
00:48:42.000 It's crazy.
00:48:43.000 Anyway, that's the truth.
00:48:44.000 That's the real truth.
00:48:45.000 Nobody wants to hear it, but that is the truth.
00:48:48.000 A lot of these things are nice, but some of them are ill-gotten gains.
00:48:51.000 Fine.
00:48:52.000 Not everybody picking tomatoes is happy about it, but have you ever had a nice Jersey, thick beefsteak tomato?
00:48:59.000 It's good.
00:49:00.000 Imagine having one and then fighting with someone about something.
00:49:03.000 It's stupid.
00:49:05.000 If there's a hell world going.
00:49:07.000 And if there's not, we get reincarnated when we're Beatles or something.
00:49:10.000 But just enjoy it.
00:49:12.000 And nobody wants to enjoy it.
00:49:14.000 And that's what makes me upset.
00:49:16.000 Is that we used to have a country built on enjoyment.
00:49:18.000 Built on fat, stupid people enjoying the work of a small group of demons.
00:49:23.000 And now we can't even enjoy it.
00:49:25.000 Can't even have fun.
00:49:28.000 You know what I think unites us?
00:49:29.000 Yeah.
00:49:30.000 Aliens.
00:49:30.000 That's interesting.
00:49:31.000 See, this is your thing, and no one cares about aliens, but they should.
00:49:35.000 Yeah.
00:49:36.000 Some people do.
00:49:37.000 I think that's what unites us.
00:49:39.000 I think if they come, then we get- Oh, you're right.
00:49:41.000 You're certainly right about that.
00:49:42.000 Then we get united.
00:49:43.000 And then we realize, like, oh my God.
00:49:45.000 We're thinking we're in control.
00:49:47.000 That's right.
00:49:48.000 And we are just the shit-throwing monkeys of the universe.
00:49:51.000 That's right.
00:49:51.000 And if aliens come down here and fuck us all up- And put us in line.
00:49:56.000 It could be the best thing in the world for us.
00:49:58.000 I think they come down and shut down all the nukes.
00:50:00.000 Interesting.
00:50:01.000 I think that's it.
00:50:02.000 I think they're like watching two brothers fight in the yard.
00:50:05.000 Like, they just let them sort it out.
00:50:08.000 Don't let them stab each other.
00:50:09.000 Let them sort it out.
00:50:10.000 And then when it gets too much, they're like, okay, break it up.
00:50:13.000 Alright, we need some rules here.
00:50:15.000 We do need someone to come in here and Just shut us down a little bit.
00:50:20.000 Do you remember when Ronald Reagan said that?
00:50:21.000 Yes.
00:50:22.000 He said that in a speech to the United Nations.
00:50:25.000 He said, well, unite in the face of an existential...
00:50:27.000 Yeah, and then all the alien people went nuts, like, oh my God, he knows something.
00:50:31.000 But, you know, all these years and all these disclosures, and we still don't know shit, Right?
00:50:35.000 Why would we?
00:50:35.000 I know, it's amazing.
00:50:36.000 Like, all these alien disclosures, all this shit, and no one knows anything.
00:50:41.000 Well, do you think ants in one of those leaf-cutter ant colonies have a detailed understanding of the way nuclear power works?
00:50:47.000 Yeah, that's a good idea.
00:50:48.000 That's true.
00:50:48.000 That's fair.
00:50:49.000 Yeah, I mean, that's really what it's like.
00:50:51.000 We like to think that we're super advanced, but we are, but only compared to other things on Earth.
00:50:56.000 That's right, because those aliens have probably bred out all the things that bother us, like personalities and sex and gender and everything.
00:51:02.000 Yeah, hormones, emotions.
00:51:03.000 So maybe this is like, we're just in this sloppy stage of truly becoming those higher level people, beings.
00:51:10.000 I think that's what's happening.
00:51:11.000 I think that's part of what our obsession with gender and gender neutral and genderless is going on.
00:51:15.000 We're going to be genderless.
00:51:17.000 All it's going to take is something that they can do technologically that replaces all the things you get from biological love and fear and emotions.
00:51:28.000 But isn't it good to know that we lived in the best times of America?
00:51:31.000 We had the wildest, but we also lived in the best times.
00:51:34.000 In 50 years, it's not going to be as good.
00:51:36.000 What year were you born?
00:51:37.000 1985. So you were born before the internet.
00:51:40.000 Good run.
00:51:40.000 I remember what it was like.
00:51:42.000 Yeah, so you remember what it was like pre-internet.
00:51:44.000 Yes.
00:51:45.000 I remember what it was like pre-answering machine.
00:51:47.000 I'm 55. That's crazy.
00:51:49.000 I'm fucking old.
00:51:49.000 I remember everything.
00:51:50.000 I remember pre-call waiting.
00:51:52.000 I remember when you got a beep beep and you realized someone else was calling.
00:51:55.000 You're like, holy shit, this is crazy.
00:51:57.000 Yeah.
00:51:57.000 Another person is calling while I'm on a line with a different person.
00:52:00.000 Yeah.
00:52:01.000 It was the future.
00:52:02.000 We've experienced this amazing time and the way the climate and everything, within 30 to 50 years, I mean, it's gonna, who knows what's gonna happen.
00:52:10.000 Yeah, the climate thing is interesting because it's hard to figure out who's accurate.
00:52:15.000 I've talked to people that are skeptical about forecasts because they, and this is a guy, was it Steve Kirsch?
00:52:23.000 No, what was the gentleman's name that did the podcast?
00:52:28.000 That was the guy who wrote that book, Unsettled.
00:52:32.000 It's a very good book, because he's a physicist, and he's a very stoic guy who explains things from...
00:52:41.000 You know his name?
00:52:43.000 Stephen Coonan.
00:52:44.000 Coonan, that's right, Stephen Coonan.
00:52:45.000 This book, Unsettled.
00:52:47.000 I recommend it.
00:52:48.000 It's very interesting.
00:52:49.000 But it's just, whether human beings are contributing to the degree that people say they are or not, It's just going to suck.
00:52:57.000 I don't know.
00:52:58.000 Things are getting hot.
00:52:59.000 There's droughts.
00:53:00.000 There's all kinds of problems.
00:53:01.000 I think things are definitely getting hot.
00:53:03.000 Things just change.
00:53:04.000 And I think we definitely are contributing to that.
00:53:06.000 But the question is how much, and even if we weren't, would it still be happening?
00:53:10.000 And it seems like it has in history.
00:53:11.000 Yeah, my point is just like, you got a great, we had a nice real run here of like, you know, before it gets really bad.
00:53:19.000 Well, and it'll last for a few more.
00:53:20.000 You know, we'll get a couple of years out of it.
00:53:22.000 How bad do things could it get?
00:53:23.000 Well, I don't know if the droughts keep going and the extreme heat keeps going.
00:53:28.000 Those aren't good.
00:53:29.000 The hurricanes and all that stuff.
00:53:30.000 I mean, it seems like...
00:53:32.000 Yeah, but see, that's what Steve Coonan said.
00:53:33.000 It's like, those have not increased.
00:53:35.000 In fact, they've decreased in power.
00:53:38.000 Okay.
00:53:38.000 Like, we have this idea that everything is ramping up.
00:53:41.000 He's like, that's not true.
00:53:42.000 And if you look at long-term, we're looking at things in terms of our own lifetime.
00:53:47.000 This is not my perspective, this is his perspective.
00:53:49.000 If you look at a long-term model, like a thousand years, you have this dip that goes up and down regardless of...
00:53:57.000 Yeah, because we don't zoom out enough.
00:54:00.000 It's very possible.
00:54:01.000 It's probably true.
00:54:02.000 It just does seem like with more and more people, Even if the climate stays relatively consistent, just the amount of people...
00:54:10.000 Yeah.
00:54:10.000 Things are just gonna get worse.
00:54:12.000 Well, the amount of people is interesting, but in places where it's urbanized, the birth rate is dropping.
00:54:19.000 Right.
00:54:19.000 That's what Elon's worried about.
00:54:21.000 That's his excuse for having 90 kids.
00:54:23.000 Interesting.
00:54:24.000 He thinks people need to have more people.
00:54:26.000 Right.
00:54:26.000 Which is interesting.
00:54:27.000 And I'm not even an anti-people person.
00:54:29.000 I just mean like...
00:54:30.000 There is an inevitability to things becoming unmanageable.
00:54:34.000 It does seem like that.
00:54:35.000 It just seems like that.
00:54:37.000 I don't know if that's true or not, but it feels like it does.
00:54:40.000 It feels like it is.
00:54:42.000 Everyone's living in their own realities.
00:54:44.000 It just feels like we're heading towards problems.
00:54:49.000 Well, when you get big numbers, things become harder to manage, right?
00:54:51.000 Harder.
00:54:52.000 And that's one of the reasons why Austin cleaned up its homeless population so easy.
00:54:55.000 Right.
00:54:55.000 Because we only have a million people.
00:54:57.000 There was only 2,000 homeless people.
00:54:58.000 Not a lot.
00:54:58.000 They took them.
00:54:59.000 They put them in shelters.
00:55:00.000 That's right.
00:55:00.000 They put them in hotels.
00:55:01.000 They did a good job.
00:55:03.000 They took the tents away.
00:55:04.000 That's right.
00:55:04.000 It's one of the few cities where you go, well, you don't see any tents.
00:55:07.000 You see one or two and they always clean them up.
00:55:09.000 They clean them up.
00:55:09.000 There's no tents here anymore.
00:55:11.000 But it was bad for a while.
00:55:11.000 There's still some vagrants.
00:55:12.000 Oh, there's still vagrants.
00:55:14.000 There's still some vagrants.
00:55:14.000 You can't keep people from wandering around the street, and they definitely need more mental health care, and they definitely need more people that can take care of these folks and help them out.
00:55:23.000 But that's the problem.
00:55:24.000 Beverly Hills does a great job of it.
00:55:25.000 They do.
00:55:26.000 Beverly Hills does a great job.
00:55:27.000 Yeah.
00:55:28.000 Well, they also have a lot of fucking money.
00:55:30.000 Well, listen.
00:55:32.000 And it goes other places.
00:55:32.000 If Jamal Khashoggi had to get it, So that I can enjoy a nice walk to get coffee in the morning?
00:55:38.000 It is what it is.
00:55:39.000 Did you see they fucking arrested that woman who's a PhD student for retweeting and following activists?
00:55:45.000 Stop tweeting!
00:55:45.000 Stop tweeting!
00:55:47.000 What is wrong with you?
00:55:48.000 How many times have I told these people, get off Twitter?
00:55:51.000 It's nice.
00:55:52.000 I live in a nice part of Beverly Hills where, and I go back and forth, I live here too, but I have this lovely, the Kingdom of Saud runs Beverly Hills, and it's a great culture, and all the men smoke, and all the women are very quiet.
00:56:04.000 And you never have to turn around to a Saudi woman and go, keep it down.
00:56:07.000 They're very quiet, and it's nice.
00:56:10.000 And it's really nice.
00:56:11.000 So, I like it, and I'm just, I'm a fan of the regime.
00:56:17.000 I'm a fan of the region.
00:56:18.000 I don't know Jamal Khashoggi.
00:56:19.000 Was Jamal Khashoggi helping me?
00:56:20.000 Or no?
00:56:22.000 It's just a really nice, beautiful Beverly Hills is gorgeous, and they don't tolerate shit.
00:56:28.000 And a lot of it's because it's mainly like Persian, Jews, and Saudis.
00:56:32.000 It's really what it is.
00:56:33.000 And a lot of those Live Golf posters.
00:56:35.000 Yeah, Live Golf.
00:56:36.000 Everyone's like, yeah, we're living, and we're going to be golfing.
00:56:39.000 Live Golf.
00:56:40.000 Fuck the PGA. Big fan of Live Golf.
00:56:44.000 Big fan.
00:56:45.000 Selling trouble.
00:56:46.000 Yeah.
00:56:46.000 Big fan.
00:56:48.000 Big fan.
00:56:48.000 But no, I mean, it's a reality.
00:56:50.000 It's an uncomfortable reality, but the reality is that Beverly Hills looks a hell of a lot better than the rest of LA. It's a fact.
00:56:57.000 And you can't really turn the rest of LA into Beverly Hills.
00:57:00.000 No.
00:57:01.000 There's not much you could do.
00:57:02.000 No, but a lot of that is because the residents of Beverly Hills will not tolerate what's going on elsewhere.
00:57:09.000 And those residents are not white Americans.
00:57:13.000 That's why the racists are wrong.
00:57:15.000 The racists are like, oh, it's white people, white people, white people.
00:57:17.000 They fucking destroyed Seattle.
00:57:19.000 They destroyed Portland.
00:57:20.000 White people do a lot of fucked up shit.
00:57:22.000 Saudis do not.
00:57:23.000 And they do it under the guise of white guilt, too.
00:57:25.000 That's right.
00:57:26.000 They do it under the guise of virtue signaling and white...
00:57:28.000 Saudis did one bad thing, 9-11.
00:57:32.000 And...
00:57:33.000 It's bad, but Mulligan, move on.
00:57:36.000 Let's not fixate on it forever.
00:57:38.000 It was a not nice thing, but there's some really cool movies about it, and a couple of my friends who sadly lost their parents got some nice money.
00:57:45.000 So let's just move on.
00:57:47.000 It's not a big deal.
00:57:48.000 The new Freedom Tower is gorgeous.
00:57:50.000 They didn't do it again, and they probably did it with help from our government.
00:57:53.000 So, hey.
00:57:54.000 You think?
00:57:55.000 Yeah.
00:57:56.000 I mean, there's no way in hell we're being told the truth about that day.
00:58:00.000 We're not being told the truth.
00:58:01.000 I don't know what the truth is, but we are not being told the truth.
00:58:05.000 But isn't that one of those things where, after a horrific disaster, people look for threads of conspiracy?
00:58:11.000 Yeah, and they're right, too.
00:58:15.000 Yeah, that would be correct.
00:58:16.000 That'd be the correct impulse.
00:58:17.000 Well, because they don't happen all the time.
00:58:20.000 So if they happen all the time, you'd go, oh, this is just...
00:58:22.000 After a rainstorm, you've got to be really crazy to go, well, it's the government controlling the fucking weather.
00:58:27.000 But when a president is whacked, and they're not whacked all the time, and they're whacked in fucking Dallas, Texas, you know, yeah, and they're whacked by a guy who ends up getting whacked?
00:58:42.000 That makes you go, oh, that's interesting.
00:58:44.000 And a guy who travels back and forth freely from the Soviet Union.
00:58:49.000 You know, when all of American air defenses are outsmarted by a ragtag group of guys who couldn't pass a fucking flight test, does that make you give it a second look?
00:58:59.000 When a plane going into the Pentagon, there's not one video of that plane going into the Pentagon that's ever been released when there's 90 cameras on the fucking Pentagon?
00:59:08.000 It's not one?
00:59:09.000 Except one little weird thing where you go, look at that ball of light explode!
00:59:13.000 You don't think that was a plane that hit the Pentagon?
00:59:15.000 I have no idea what it was.
00:59:16.000 There's 90 cameras on the Pentagon.
00:59:18.000 Release one.
00:59:18.000 Release one.
00:59:20.000 That one video doesn't look like a plane to you?
00:59:22.000 No.
00:59:23.000 Show it, Jamie.
00:59:24.000 Can you show it?
00:59:24.000 What does it look like?
00:59:25.000 Get it up, Jamie.
00:59:26.000 It's an old school podcast.
00:59:28.000 What does it look like?
00:59:30.000 It's just a ball of light.
00:59:32.000 It's weird.
00:59:33.000 Doesn't seem like a plane.
00:59:35.000 Aren't there other cameras that would show the plane?
00:59:39.000 So here it is.
00:59:40.000 Here's the plane.
00:59:41.000 Here we go.
00:59:45.000 Yeah, let's play it again.
00:59:55.000 Here we go.
00:59:58.000 It's instantaneous.
01:00:00.000 Let me see it again.
01:00:02.000 From the very beginning, you don't see it at all.
01:00:05.000 It's weird that that's the only video of this thing.
01:00:08.000 Is this?
01:00:09.000 That's the only frame you can see something else before.
01:00:11.000 9-11, there's a million differences.
01:00:13.000 That looks like a plane.
01:00:15.000 You can't tell what kind of plane.
01:00:16.000 You don't know how big it is.
01:00:18.000 All you see is white.
01:00:20.000 Let me see that again.
01:00:22.000 That looks like a fucking plane to me.
01:00:24.000 They analyze this actually brilliantly in a documentary called 9-11, The New Pearl Harbor, and they actually talk about this exact video that was released and the frame rate and everything like that.
01:00:33.000 But it is impossible to know if that thing that you're seeing...
01:00:37.000 Look how big it is.
01:00:37.000 It looks like a plane.
01:00:39.000 What you're seeing is a streak of white.
01:00:41.000 Right, but look at that right there.
01:00:44.000 Tell me that doesn't look like a plane.
01:00:45.000 I have no idea what the hell that is.
01:00:46.000 But doesn't it look like a plane?
01:00:48.000 I have no idea what kind of plane, how big it is.
01:00:50.000 If I said to you, do you think that that is a house?
01:00:55.000 I wouldn't say it's a house.
01:00:57.000 It's not a flying house.
01:00:57.000 Not a flying house.
01:00:58.000 It's the shape of a plane, right?
01:01:00.000 It's more likely a plane than a house.
01:01:02.000 It is a shape, like a plane, which has the same shape as a missile, which has the same shape as a lot of things.
01:01:08.000 It is cylindrical and white.
01:01:10.000 Yeah, but is that the same shape as a missile?
01:01:12.000 It's like it's way bigger than a missile.
01:01:13.000 Oh, for sure.
01:01:14.000 Look how big that is.
01:01:15.000 That's as big as a plane.
01:01:16.000 Are you telling me there's...
01:01:17.000 Why is there only one...
01:01:19.000 Video of this when the Pentagon is one of the most surveilled places on Earth.
01:01:24.000 Play it again.
01:01:25.000 This looks like it's from a parking thing.
01:01:27.000 Right.
01:01:28.000 There's no other videos of this thing.
01:01:33.000 The FBI confiscated like 80 or 90 of those videos.
01:01:36.000 It looks like it hit the ground as it's hitting the building.
01:01:40.000 Do it one more time.
01:01:43.000 That looks like a plane to me, man.
01:01:45.000 Does that look like a 757?
01:01:47.000 Is that what it was supposed to be?
01:01:48.000 Yeah, a massive 757?
01:01:49.000 But it's our perspective, though.
01:01:51.000 Yeah, it easily could be a 757. If you look at the perspective, that's a big-ass building.
01:01:56.000 And look how small that plane is.
01:01:58.000 Yeah.
01:01:59.000 But it's small compared to the building.
01:02:00.000 But if you had a plane out there with its wings...
01:02:03.000 You would think, yeah, that's about the size of the plane in relationship to that massive building.
01:02:08.000 Okay, and there should be some...
01:02:10.000 I would just imagine there'd be other angles like this.
01:02:12.000 Right, but a lack of proof is not proof.
01:02:15.000 A lack of proof can be a question.
01:02:17.000 Yeah, I guess you could have a question, but that- Well, one of my questions would be, why is there one angle of this available?
01:02:23.000 Do you know how many angles there are of the planes going into the Twin Towers, does it feel?
01:02:26.000 Right, but that's a different animal, right?
01:02:28.000 Especially the second plane going into the Twin Towers, because they were already observing the first one.
01:02:32.000 For sure.
01:02:33.000 But there's got to be more cameras around the Pentagon than just this one parking garage.
01:02:39.000 That was my question.
01:02:41.000 But didn't they find wreckage of a plane on the lawn?
01:02:44.000 There's photographs of wreckage?
01:02:46.000 There is photographs of weird stuff that is consistent with a plane, but it's also very hard.
01:02:53.000 They don't have any...
01:02:54.000 I don't believe they don't really have...
01:02:56.000 There's certain things that they found, certain things that they didn't find, and it's weird that there's only one Depiction of it in that one thing.
01:03:07.000 Like, that's all you'll ever see.
01:03:09.000 That's just odd to me.
01:03:11.000 The Pentagon's not a building that isn't surveilled.
01:03:14.000 In fact, I'm sure that there are other buildings with cameras literally pointing and filming the Pentagon.
01:03:20.000 I mean, the FBI confiscated 80 or 90, I think, security tapes.
01:03:24.000 We've seen one of them.
01:03:26.000 That's just odd to me.
01:03:27.000 That's strange.
01:03:29.000 I'm not saying I know the answer.
01:03:31.000 This is where other people will say, well, you don't know the answer.
01:03:35.000 I don't know the answer.
01:03:36.000 I'm just curious.
01:03:37.000 The thing about it is it looks like the trajectory that a plane would take if a plane is getting low and a plane is trying to slam into a building versus a missile.
01:03:45.000 A missile would come over the top and drop in.
01:03:49.000 Depending on how it was programmed, right?
01:03:51.000 I don't know.
01:03:52.000 Yeah, that's true.
01:03:52.000 It could fly 50 feet above the ground.
01:03:55.000 Yeah, and I have no doubt that...
01:03:58.000 Listen, maybe if all the facts were out on the table, I'd go, oh yeah, everything they told us was true.
01:04:05.000 But we already know that they lied about the Saudi thing.
01:04:08.000 We knew that.
01:04:09.000 They literally withheld pages out of the 9-11 Commission report.
01:04:14.000 The people that...
01:04:15.000 Had the 9-11 commission report, like it's set up to fail.
01:04:18.000 The two people that ran it, Lee Hamilton, and like these are people that were literally like, yeah, we don't have all the info.
01:04:23.000 The president and the vice president appeared together to testify.
01:04:28.000 Incredibly weird.
01:04:29.000 There's just weird things.
01:04:30.000 That's all.
01:04:31.000 I don't know what happened.
01:04:32.000 Just weird.
01:04:32.000 It's weird that the president and the VP had to sit there next to each other.
01:04:35.000 Why is that weird?
01:04:38.000 When you're trying to get to the bottom of something and try to figure out why it shouldn't happen again, and you're trying to treat every person's account as their own personal account of the day, why would two officials have to sit next to each other?
01:04:55.000 It's very strange.
01:04:57.000 Everybody else was interviewed individually.
01:04:59.000 I bet that was Dick Cheney's idea.
01:05:01.000 It probably was.
01:05:02.000 It's probably like, I got this.
01:05:03.000 Yeah, it's probably like, yeah, sit down and we'll, you know, but then what does that tell you?
01:05:06.000 I mean, these are weird things.
01:05:09.000 These are odd.
01:05:11.000 I'm just saying they're odd.
01:05:12.000 I don't know what happened.
01:05:13.000 I'll never know.
01:05:14.000 I'll go to my grave not knowing what happened, like everyone else.
01:05:18.000 But, you know, maybe what?
01:05:19.000 Maybe it happened exactly the way they said.
01:05:22.000 Exactly.
01:05:23.000 Where people 30,000 feet up were calling people with cell phones that didn't work.
01:05:27.000 That don't work now 1,000 feet up.
01:05:30.000 Isn't it odd that, you know, like, I don't know what Trump did and what kind of documents he had.
01:05:35.000 Well, he just said we never got to the bottom of 9-11.
01:05:38.000 Did he just say it?
01:05:39.000 That's Donald Trump just said that, yes.
01:05:41.000 When did he say it?
01:05:43.000 They said, well, live golf, whatever the Saudis, 9-11.
01:05:45.000 He goes, we don't know what the hell happened on 9-11.
01:05:47.000 That's a quote Jamie King got up.
01:05:48.000 Trump literally was asked about live golf, asked about the Saudis, and Trump goes, yeah, we don't know what happened.
01:05:54.000 That's Trump.
01:05:55.000 The president, he probably stole the fucking 9-11 documents and he's got them at fucking Mar-a-Lago and he's going to tell everyone the truth at the Labor Day fucking Mar-a-Lago barbecue.
01:06:06.000 And now the feds are trying to fuck them.
01:06:08.000 What I was going to say is, isn't it crazy that they're breaking into his place and making this gigantic deal about it?
01:06:15.000 And maybe they deserve to.
01:06:16.000 Maybe it's righteous.
01:06:18.000 But yet no one's clamoring to release Ghislaine Maxwell's list of clients.
01:06:23.000 No one wants that.
01:06:24.000 The FBI's a criminal organization.
01:06:26.000 It doesn't mean that Donald Trump, the Trump Organization isn't a criminal organization.
01:06:30.000 That is too.
01:06:31.000 But these are criminal organizations.
01:06:32.000 The feds, the CIA, all of them.
01:06:34.000 They're fucking criminals.
01:06:36.000 Their job is to break the law.
01:06:38.000 Their jobs to wire, to, you know, to do it.
01:06:41.000 Yeah, here we go.
01:06:41.000 Give me it from the beginning.
01:06:45.000 Decision to host this event.
01:06:47.000 Well, I've known these people for a long time in Saudi Arabia, and they've been friends of mine for a long time.
01:06:54.000 They've invested in many American companies.
01:06:57.000 They own big percentages of many, many American companies.
01:07:00.000 And frankly, what they're doing for golf is so great.
01:07:03.000 What they're doing for the players is so great.
01:07:05.000 The salaries are going to go way up.
01:07:07.000 The PGA was not loved by a lot of the players, as you know, for a long time.
01:07:12.000 Now they have an alternative, and nobody would have ever known there was going to be a gold rush like this.
01:07:16.000 I think nobody ever knew that they were going to be paying signing bonuses.
01:07:20.000 The prize money was going to be much higher, you know, four, five, six times higher.
01:07:24.000 So instead of a million dollars, you'd win five or seven or eight.
01:07:28.000 A lot of money, and it's even going up.
01:07:31.000 But the PGA Tour hasn't reacted well.
01:07:36.000 Well, nobody's gotten to the bottom of 9-11, unfortunately, and they should have, as to the maniacs that did that horrible thing.
01:07:55.000 He's right about that.
01:07:56.000 He's right again, by the way.
01:08:22.000 This is why our society is so fucking insane right now.
01:08:25.000 The truly wokest points are being made on a golf course by a billionaire.
01:08:31.000 That's why our society has gone fucking, because he's gone, we've not gotten to the bottom of it.
01:08:35.000 By the way, that's literally what every fucking far left anti-war protester was saying from my entire childhood.
01:08:42.000 What that guy just said on a fucking golf course.
01:08:44.000 We have not gotten to the bottom of any of this shit.
01:08:47.000 We're in seven wars.
01:08:48.000 We're enriching people.
01:08:49.000 And he is making that point.
01:08:51.000 And it's amazing.
01:08:52.000 A billionaire on a golf course is going, yeah, we don't know what the fuck happened.
01:08:56.000 We're in all these wars.
01:08:58.000 That's why our society has gone so fucking insane that he is the wokest person on that issue.
01:09:06.000 Truly.
01:09:07.000 He is.
01:09:08.000 That's what a fucking lunatic...
01:09:13.000 You know, like somebody that society viewed as a lunatic would say, you know, in 2003, 2004, I mean, he's the president, we're 2022, but now a lot of people are more open to it.
01:09:25.000 They're going, yeah, man, here's the reality.
01:09:28.000 We just don't trust anybody on anything anymore.
01:09:31.000 And the government's going to have to earn that trust back.
01:09:33.000 The FBI is going to have to earn that trust back.
01:09:35.000 The FBI had a two-year, very politicized investigation saying this guy was a Russian asset.
01:09:39.000 They came up with nothing.
01:09:40.000 Came up with nothing, okay?
01:09:42.000 Trump's got all kinds of problems.
01:09:43.000 He's done a lot of shady business deals, but they didn't go at him for that.
01:09:47.000 They said he was an agent of Putin and that he was installed and that Putin would do all these things.
01:09:55.000 They were unable to prove that and, in fact, a lot of the evidence they used that was kind of cooked up in its own weird way with the Steele dossier and Clinton and all those people.
01:10:04.000 Not to say Trump's not dirty.
01:10:06.000 I'm sure he's fucking dirty.
01:10:07.000 He's a real estate billionaire in New York.
01:10:09.000 What are you, nuts?
01:10:09.000 Of course he is.
01:10:10.000 But the FBI is going to have to earn that trust back.
01:10:13.000 I mean, this is an organization that made their bones with Cointelpro.
01:10:17.000 They made their bones...
01:10:17.000 I mean, assassinating civil rights leaders and setting up people, protecting pedophile politicians, fucking doing all this crazy stuff, right?
01:10:26.000 I mean, they can't just...
01:10:28.000 We're supposed to just say the FBI is great?
01:10:31.000 No?
01:10:32.000 That's crazy.
01:10:33.000 It's absurd to me and to others.
01:10:36.000 Doesn't mean Trump's wrong, but if he took like a Bill of Rights on the way out, who gives a fuck?
01:10:43.000 Yeah, he grabbed a bill of rights or something on the way out.
01:10:46.000 Listen, the guy knows value.
01:10:48.000 He knows money.
01:10:50.000 Listen, he didn't make a lot of money.
01:10:52.000 He had to cut some side deals while he was in there.
01:10:54.000 He didn't make a lot of money.
01:10:55.000 We don't pay the president a lot because it's really not an important job.
01:10:58.000 Well, he didn't take a salary.
01:10:59.000 Right, because the salary's fake.
01:11:01.000 What is it?
01:11:01.000 $500,000 a year?
01:11:02.000 It's embarrassing.
01:11:03.000 That shows you how much the job is not really important.
01:11:07.000 So he wanted to take some parting gift on the way out.
01:11:09.000 So what?
01:11:09.000 He grabbed the fucking Articles of Confederation?
01:11:11.000 Who cares?
01:11:13.000 He grabbed something good.
01:11:14.000 I hope he's got something real good.
01:11:16.000 I hope he's got a couple of fucking letters from John Adams, some of the UFO shit.
01:11:21.000 I hope he's got some Kennedy stuff.
01:11:23.000 I hope he's got a whole file.
01:11:25.000 You know he's got something good.
01:11:27.000 If they're freaking out like this, he's got something good.
01:11:29.000 Good.
01:11:30.000 You think so?
01:11:30.000 I hope.
01:11:31.000 I think they're just trying to get him.
01:11:32.000 They might be.
01:11:33.000 Well, I think what he did was against the law.
01:11:35.000 And if it is against the law...
01:11:37.000 Somebody made a point, like, if that room is locked and is safe and secured by Secret Service agents, isn't that a secure place for those documents?
01:11:46.000 The problem is it's not the correct...
01:11:49.000 Yeah, they asked them to, and I think they had a video that showed those documents going in and out of that room after they told them to lock it up, and they said they did.
01:11:56.000 Oh, so he told them to lock it up.
01:11:58.000 Yeah.
01:11:59.000 No, I don't know what he did.
01:12:00.000 Maybe he did something.
01:12:00.000 What do you mean they told them to lock it up?
01:12:01.000 What do you mean by that?
01:12:03.000 How'd they say it?
01:12:04.000 What I was reading was that they probably told them where it was going to be held, and they were like, okay, if you hold them there, make sure you follow these steps.
01:12:12.000 And they were like, okay, we'll follow those steps.
01:12:15.000 Then they got a video I read that showed, which I'm reading this stuff, so I don't know exactly.
01:12:20.000 Maybe he did something really courageous.
01:12:22.000 Hold on.
01:12:22.000 What was the video?
01:12:25.000 Apparently the video showed the documents leaving that room for a period of time before they were then put back in that room.
01:12:32.000 So he had an understanding with them that he's allowed to possess them as long as they're in a secure location?
01:12:37.000 I had read that they'd been there to look for documents back in January.
01:12:42.000 Can you see if you can find that article so we can get the specifics of that?
01:12:44.000 Sure.
01:12:46.000 He might have done something egregious.
01:12:48.000 We don't know.
01:12:49.000 He's the kind of guy he is.
01:12:50.000 We don't know.
01:12:51.000 But I also know this.
01:12:52.000 After Bush got out, there was this idea that he was going to be prosecuted for war crimes.
01:12:56.000 You know, that was a justifiable prosecution.
01:12:58.000 But people said, you know, it would tear the country apart, leave it alone.
01:13:01.000 I don't know.
01:13:02.000 If this is egregious, then it's one thing.
01:13:04.000 But if it's not, then let it, you know.
01:13:07.000 Who was saying they should prosecute him for war crimes?
01:13:09.000 The far left and people on the left were going, yeah.
01:13:13.000 They were going, you know, flouted the Geneva Convention.
01:13:16.000 No, there was no argument that what Bush did was tantamount to war crimes.
01:13:20.000 We shipped detainees to countries where we knew they were going to get tortured.
01:13:24.000 We tortured them ourselves.
01:13:25.000 You could have absolutely tried him for war crimes in The Hague.
01:13:28.000 Absolutely.
01:13:29.000 Did you see that interview with Roger Waters?
01:13:31.000 No.
01:13:32.000 On CNN? You gotta watch this.
01:13:34.000 Okay.
01:13:34.000 You gotta watch this.
01:13:35.000 Yeah.
01:13:35.000 Because Roger Waters throws it all in his face.
01:13:37.000 Yeah.
01:13:37.000 Because he's talking about war criminals and he shows a photo of Biden.
01:13:41.000 Right.
01:13:41.000 And they're like, like, why are you showing, like, your last thing was all anti-Trump in his last show.
01:13:47.000 Right.
01:13:48.000 Trump with a pig's body.
01:13:51.000 There's a bunch of wild anti-Trump shit.
01:13:54.000 And in this, he talks about war criminals, and he shows photos of war criminals, and one of them is of Biden.
01:14:00.000 Yeah, sure.
01:14:01.000 So CNN was pushing back against it, but Roger Waters...
01:14:03.000 Pull that video up, because it's fucking wild.
01:14:05.000 Yeah, Biden supported all that stuff, too.
01:14:07.000 Roger Waters is very well-versed politically.
01:14:11.000 He really understands what's going on.
01:14:13.000 And it's interesting to watch him being...
01:14:16.000 I forget who the journalist was.
01:14:18.000 Here, let's play the video because it's pretty interesting.
01:14:22.000 Here it goes.
01:14:24.000 Yeah, this is it.
01:14:25.000 This is it.
01:14:26.000 Go ahead.
01:14:27.000 Give me some volume.
01:14:28.000 Politics, he's amping them up to 11. Last time out, he preached against Donald Trump and in favor of Palestine.
01:14:35.000 This tour, twice delayed by COVID and ominously titled, This Is Not A Drill, includes references to police murdering black men, semi-automatic weapons and abortion, and giant video screens in the shape of a cross.
01:14:47.000 Waters guitarist Jonathan Wilson has explained why Waters tour differs from those of fellow older classic rockers.
01:14:55.000 Quote, even the Stones or members of the Beatles, it's more of a trip down memory lane than it is a current show.
01:15:00.000 The activism, that's sort of the key to the whole thing.
01:15:04.000 As a longtime fan of Waters music who doesn't always agree with his messaging, I wanted to ask him about his mix of performing and preaching.
01:15:12.000 Things got a bit animated.
01:15:14.000 So, here's the quote, as I understand, that begins the show.
01:15:19.000 If you're one of those, I love Pink Floyd, but I can't stand Roger's politics, people.
01:15:25.000 You might do well to f*** off to the bar.
01:15:30.000 You might do well to f*** off to the bar right now.
01:15:39.000 At the outset of the show?
01:15:40.000 Yeah.
01:15:42.000 Because...
01:15:44.000 Because it's a really good way to start the show.
01:15:48.000 Apart from anything else, it sets a few things straight.
01:15:52.000 Namely?
01:15:54.000 Well, also it encourages a lot of the people who have come to the show A, because they have listened to everything I've written since, you know, 1965 or whenever I started writing songs, so they do know what my politics are and they do understand where my heart is and they understand sort of why I'm there.
01:16:16.000 But maybe it also gives a message to people who don't want to be there, in which case them effing off to the bar is probably not a bad idea.
01:16:27.000 Except that, you never know, those people, if they sit in a community like my audience is on these shows of This Is Not A Drill on this tour, there is such a great feeling of communication in that room between me and the audience,
01:16:44.000 and between us combined, With all our brothers and sisters all over the rest of the world, irrespective of who they are, where they live, their ethnicity, their religion, their nationality, or anything else.
01:16:56.000 Because if this is not a drill, has a message, it is that we have to communicate one with the other.
01:17:03.000 To the guy who says, shut the F up, play the hits, do you want him, as long as he doesn't shout it out, do you want him in the arena?
01:17:12.000 I don't not want him there, as long as he doesn't annoy the people who do understand what's going on in the arena.
01:17:19.000 I'm happy for him to be there.
01:17:20.000 But I'm saying, like, do I have to buy in?
01:17:23.000 Does a person in the crowd have to buy in to the message?
01:17:26.000 I've always loved the music.
01:17:28.000 Some of the messages I can buy into and some I can't.
01:17:31.000 I've only got one message.
01:17:33.000 Two strangers passing in the street, by chance two passing glances meet, and I am you and what I see is me.
01:17:41.000 That is my message.
01:17:43.000 And that was on medal, which was in 1970. And basically my message hasn't changed.
01:17:49.000 I recognise your humanity, but I recognise all the Russians and the Chinese and the Ukrainians and the Yemenis and the Palestinians.
01:17:59.000 Are you an equal opportunity offender on this tour?
01:18:03.000 Here's why I ask.
01:18:04.000 I remember the last tour.
01:18:05.000 Of course, I came and watched.
01:18:06.000 Very much, you know, about Trump.
01:18:09.000 And in the current show, you've got a montage of war criminals, according to you, and a picture apparently of President Biden on the screen, and it says, just getting started.
01:18:20.000 What's that all about?
01:18:21.000 President Joe Biden?
01:18:23.000 Yeah.
01:18:23.000 Well, he's fueling the fire in the Ukraine for a start.
01:18:26.000 That is a huge crime.
01:18:28.000 Why won't the United States of America encourage Zelensky, the president, to negotiate obviating the need for this horrific, horrendous war that's killing...
01:18:42.000 We don't know how many Ukrainians in Russia.
01:18:44.000 But you're blaming the party that got invaded.
01:18:46.000 Come on, you've got it reversed.
01:18:47.000 Well, any war, when did it start?
01:18:52.000 What you need to do is look at the history and you can say, well, it started on this day.
01:18:56.000 You could say it started in 2008. This war is basically about the action and reaction of NATO pushing right up to the Russian border, which they promised they wouldn't do when Gorbachev We've negotiated the withdrawal of the USSR from the whole of Eastern Europe.
01:19:19.000 When you say this, then I have to say, what about our role as liberators?
01:19:22.000 You of all people...
01:19:23.000 You have no role as liberators.
01:19:26.000 World War II? World War II? You lost your father!
01:19:30.000 Come on!
01:19:31.000 It's Pearl Harbor.
01:19:31.000 Pearl Harbor.
01:19:32.000 You were completely isolationist until that sad That devastating, awful day in 1941. I would argue we were always going to get in, and that pushed us in.
01:19:41.000 But thank God the United States got in, right?
01:19:44.000 You lost your father in World War II. Thank God the United States...
01:19:47.000 But thank God the Russians had already won the bloody war almost by then.
01:19:52.000 Don't forget, 23 million Russians died.
01:19:55.000 Protecting you and me from the Nazi menace.
01:19:59.000 And you would think the Russians would have learned their lesson from war and wouldn't have invaded Ukraine.
01:20:04.000 Well, you, with all your reading, I would suggest you, Michael, that you go away and read a bit more and then try and figure out what the United States would do if the Chinese were putting nuclear-armed missiles into Mexico and Canada.
01:20:22.000 The Chinese are too busy encircling Taiwan as we speak.
01:20:26.000 They're not encircling Taiwan.
01:20:28.000 Taiwan is part of China.
01:20:30.000 And that's been absolutely accepted by the whole of the international community since 1948. And if you don't know that, you're not reading enough.
01:20:40.000 Go and read about it.
01:20:42.000 Okay.
01:20:42.000 Did we solve anything here today?
01:20:44.000 No.
01:20:44.000 Well, yeah, we did.
01:20:45.000 I mean, no, we didn't.
01:20:47.000 You're believing your propaganda, your side's propaganda.
01:20:51.000 You're defining it as propaganda.
01:20:52.000 But Taiwan, you can't have a conversation about human rights, and you can't have a conversation about Taiwan without actually doing the reading.
01:21:01.000 Roger, if you're having a conversation about human rights, at the top of the list of offenders are the Chinese.
01:21:07.000 Why is it always the Western world?
01:21:09.000 Why is it always the Western world?
01:21:10.000 The Chinese didn't invade Iraq and kill a million people in 2003. In fact, as far as I can record, hang on a minute, who have the Chinese invaded and murdered, slaughtered?
01:21:22.000 Their own.
01:21:23.000 Their own.
01:21:24.000 Bollocks.
01:21:25.000 Okay.
01:21:25.000 That's absolute nonsense.
01:21:27.000 Complete nonsense.
01:21:28.000 You should go away and read, but read some proper literature.
01:21:32.000 Hey, my problem is I spend too much time reading your liner notes, okay?
01:21:36.000 Thank you for doing this.
01:21:38.000 Thank you for talking to me.
01:21:39.000 It's always a pleasure.
01:21:40.000 I just don't understand why he'd be laughing.
01:21:43.000 He's laughing like a Kamala Harris laugh.
01:21:46.000 Michael Smirconish is not the brightest bulb, right?
01:21:49.000 I mean, CNN does not hire smart people.
01:21:54.000 And Roger Waters is right about a lot of that.
01:21:56.000 There's things, obviously, that there's blind spots there.
01:21:58.000 I mean, China's certainly not nice to all of their people.
01:22:02.000 But, you know, we've gotten to a point, we've lost our moral authority.
01:22:06.000 America's lost, it's still the best country to live if you are an ambitious, relatively healthy person.
01:22:14.000 And it's still heads and shoulders above a lot of places, but it's no longer, it does not have the moral authority that it once did.
01:22:21.000 And when it wades into these things like Russia, Ukraine, or China, there's a lot more baggage that we have now as a country than we did.
01:22:30.000 And that Iraq and Afghanistan and the legitimization of torture and all of these things, you know, we are not looked at as this moral paragon.
01:22:40.000 We're just not.
01:22:40.000 Roger Waters is 100% right about all that stuff.
01:22:43.000 But that's wild that they aired that, too.
01:22:45.000 That's wild, yeah.
01:22:46.000 I mean, he schooled that guy.
01:22:48.000 That's right.
01:22:49.000 I mean, the real point was China invading other countries.
01:22:53.000 They've never done it.
01:22:54.000 This is not something they do.
01:22:55.000 No, we have been for a very long time.
01:23:00.000 You know, pushing this narrative that we are liberators and that we are there to help.
01:23:04.000 And I think the last round of conflicts that we engaged in, you know, the last round of wars, Afghanistan and Iraq, one we left completely disgraced, Afghanistan and Iraq.
01:23:14.000 It seems, you know, I don't know what the hell's going on there now, but it doesn't seem to be worth it.
01:23:20.000 You know, if people look back at it, they go, yeah, that wasn't worth it.
01:23:24.000 A lot of people died.
01:23:25.000 Soldiers from our country died.
01:23:27.000 Million people or hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq died, you know?
01:23:32.000 And yes, Saddam Hussein is a bad guy, but did it make us safer from terrorism to overthrow Saddam Hussein?
01:23:37.000 Seems to have done potentially the opposite, you know?
01:23:42.000 Terrorists were kicked out of Iraq.
01:23:43.000 I mean, Saddam Hussein was not, you know, fostering people in that country that would be a threat to him or challenge his power.
01:23:51.000 So, you know, It's tough.
01:23:56.000 It's tough because obviously we don't want to turn the world over to China and Russia and things like that, but we don't really have the authority we used to have.
01:24:06.000 We definitely don't have this moral high ground that the CNN guys claiming we have, or this consensus that we're the liberators of the world.
01:24:15.000 There's a large swath of the population that doesn't want that.
01:24:18.000 They want peace through negotiation and not peace through military intervention.
01:24:23.000 That's Tulsi Gabbard's position.
01:24:24.000 That's right.
01:24:25.000 And she's demonized for it like no one, like no other.
01:24:28.000 I mean, it's really they attack her.
01:24:30.000 When you go abroad, you know, people's feeling in America now, they're just kind of over us.
01:24:34.000 They just don't care.
01:24:35.000 They don't hate us anymore.
01:24:36.000 They're just over it.
01:24:37.000 Like, yeah, you're America.
01:24:38.000 We're goofy.
01:24:39.000 We get it.
01:24:40.000 You know, they're like, yeah, try to make a, you know, but again, we haven't made a good funny movie in a minute.
01:24:45.000 We haven't done like- The only funny is comedy right now.
01:24:48.000 Stand up.
01:24:49.000 Yeah, podcasts and shit like that.
01:24:50.000 There's some mild comedies.
01:24:52.000 There's some new young funny guys.
01:24:54.000 Oh, there's a lot of great comics.
01:24:55.000 A lot of great podcasts.
01:24:57.000 The stand-up comedy and podcast, it's holding raw, wild comedy down.
01:25:02.000 Yeah.
01:25:02.000 Because movies like Superbad.
01:25:04.000 Yeah.
01:25:05.000 Tropic Thunder, you're not making those things.
01:25:07.000 No.
01:25:08.000 Jamie Foxx was just talking about a film that he made in 2016 that got shelved, and in it, Robert Downey Jr. plays a Mexican guy.
01:25:16.000 Right, right.
01:25:17.000 See, if we were making funny stuff, I think that would be a way to get the world to love us again.
01:25:22.000 That was always our superpower, was that we could make cool shit and funny stuff and great music.
01:25:28.000 But they want to make comedy without any criticism.
01:25:30.000 They want to make comedy without comedy.
01:25:32.000 It's a problem.
01:25:32.000 But I do think that eventually...
01:25:35.000 You know, we've learned how to do everything on our own.
01:25:37.000 We've learned how to do talk shows on our own.
01:25:38.000 You know, our shows, your shows, certainly in my show, a lot of times, you know, they get more viewers in Kimmel.
01:25:42.000 They get more viewers in Fallon, right?
01:25:44.000 This space that we're in has replaced late night television.
01:25:48.000 People can watch it whenever they want.
01:25:50.000 My show comes out late at night.
01:25:51.000 A lot of people watch shows late at night.
01:25:53.000 They have fun.
01:25:54.000 They smoke a joint.
01:25:54.000 They have a drink, whatever.
01:25:56.000 You know, this has replaced that.
01:25:58.000 So eventually...
01:25:59.000 The technology will be there for people to make their own films, like Louisa Cage's did, to fund these things, to distribute them.
01:26:07.000 You know, and I think you'll be living in this decentralized space where a lot of interesting art is going to get made.
01:26:12.000 And, you know, if Hollywood's smart, they're going to start grabbing up this stuff before it's too late.
01:26:18.000 Well, what's interesting is what you were saying about Netflix not giving you any notes.
01:26:21.000 Right.
01:26:22.000 That, to me, seems like they're waking up.
01:26:24.000 And we were talking about their stock price dropping by like 80%.
01:26:27.000 And they still have some of the best fucking content that's available.
01:26:31.000 That's right.
01:26:31.000 I mean, they have Ozark.
01:26:33.000 They have fucking Stranger Things.
01:26:35.000 They have so many good shows.
01:26:37.000 Every rerun of every great sitcom, all the great stuff is all available.
01:26:41.000 They also have...
01:26:43.000 It's a good app.
01:26:44.000 The tech works.
01:26:45.000 They're a tech company.
01:26:46.000 The algorithm...
01:26:47.000 They know some of these other things with arguably as good or better content because they're not tech companies.
01:26:56.000 A lot of these apps suck.
01:26:57.000 The experience is like, where is this shit?
01:26:58.000 Whatever.
01:26:59.000 Netflix has all the ingredients to be good.
01:27:01.000 The content they make has to just get better.
01:27:06.000 Well, they're making blockbuster movies now.
01:27:08.000 They're trying, yeah.
01:27:09.000 The Greyman is fucking great.
01:27:11.000 I've not seen it yet.
01:27:12.000 It's fun.
01:27:13.000 I read the book.
01:27:14.000 The book is great.
01:27:15.000 The book is a little bit more crazy because they only have a movie length to do it.
01:27:20.000 The Terminalist, they did over, what is it, six episodes or something like that on Amazon?
01:27:26.000 The Jack Carr series, which is also great.
01:27:29.000 And the Terminalists, they followed the book pretty closely.
01:27:35.000 Not too much deviation at all.
01:27:36.000 And that goes over like six hours.
01:27:39.000 So it's the same thing with The Gray Man.
01:27:40.000 It's the same length book.
01:27:41.000 Ethan Hawke.
01:27:42.000 No, Ethan Hawke's not the great man.
01:27:44.000 Ethan Hawke is in that horror movie, The Black Phone.
01:27:48.000 That's what he's in now.
01:27:49.000 I saw that.
01:27:50.000 That's good.
01:27:50.000 That's fucking great.
01:27:51.000 But is that a Netflix too?
01:27:53.000 No.
01:27:54.000 No.
01:27:55.000 That's a movie movie, right?
01:27:57.000 Ryan Gosling.
01:27:58.000 Ryan Gosling, sorry.
01:27:58.000 And Chris Evans.
01:27:59.000 Chris Evans is a fucking great bad guy.
01:28:01.000 Yeah.
01:28:02.000 He plays this evil character in it.
01:28:04.000 I gotta watch it.
01:28:04.000 It's fun.
01:28:05.000 I gotta watch it.
01:28:06.000 It's a big budget, big budget movie.
01:28:08.000 Like fucking explosions, chaos, and Some of the scenes took like $20 million to shoot.
01:28:13.000 It's wild shit.
01:28:14.000 It's great.
01:28:15.000 I have no doubt, and I'm excited hopefully for a little bit of a detente where people can just go, hey, let's make fun stuff.
01:28:25.000 Yeah, you don't have to like it.
01:28:27.000 This is the thing.
01:28:28.000 I don't want to stop people from making some types of metal.
01:28:36.000 That's not my kind of music, but people fucking love it.
01:28:38.000 They love getting in mosh pits.
01:28:40.000 I've seen these concerts.
01:28:41.000 I have friends that love that hardcore music.
01:28:43.000 They jump around, they get fucking crazy on stage.
01:28:45.000 I'm good friends with John Joseph, who's the lead singer of the Cro-Max.
01:28:48.000 It's just not my thing.
01:28:51.000 But people love it.
01:28:53.000 Some people love jazz.
01:28:56.000 I've tried.
01:28:57.000 It's not grabbing me.
01:28:58.000 If I'm gonna listen to old cool shit, I want to listen to Nina Simone or I want to listen to something with his lyrics to it.
01:29:06.000 It's just not my thing.
01:29:06.000 But maybe if I was a musician, it would be my thing.
01:29:09.000 But I don't want to stop people from seeing it.
01:29:11.000 Just like I don't want to stop people from going to a Tarantino movie.
01:29:14.000 You don't have to like your kind of comedy.
01:29:17.000 But I do.
01:29:18.000 I fucking love it.
01:29:20.000 I fucking love it, and I'm glad that you're out there.
01:29:22.000 So for me, as a fan, I'm like, don't stop what I like.
01:29:26.000 Let everybody do their own thing.
01:29:28.000 And that's what's great about this decentralization that we're all seeing everywhere.
01:29:33.000 We're seeing people become smaller, kind of leaner, meaner.
01:29:38.000 Their organizations are more...
01:29:43.000 We're nimble.
01:29:44.000 They can react to things, generate content quicker, put it out.
01:29:48.000 People enjoy it.
01:29:49.000 They can build an audience faster.
01:29:51.000 These older companies are cruise ships.
01:29:53.000 They're big.
01:29:54.000 They're cumbersome.
01:29:56.000 It's hard to get them to do things.
01:29:59.000 I think seeing the independence over the last couple of years, these big companies that have shitloads of money are going to start going to these people and going, yeah, you've got something good here.
01:30:09.000 Let's see if we can, by putting it on our platform, let's see if we can go into business together.
01:30:15.000 Let's see if there's some type of reciprocal relationship that works.
01:30:19.000 I mean, I don't see why that wouldn't happen.
01:30:21.000 I think that's a natural You know inevitable you know consequence of people wanting to earn money you know these companies going you guys have big audiences Come and share those audiences and we'll get you more of an audience and that seems to make a lot of sense to me That would be a more more fascinating alternative approach to YouTube if YouTube had more of an approach of just let and What becomes popular,
01:30:48.000 popular.
01:30:49.000 Right.
01:30:49.000 Instead of like forcing specific things or demonetizing certain things where it's freedom of speech and expression.
01:30:56.000 Right.
01:30:56.000 You should be allowed to state your opinions on things.
01:30:58.000 For sure.
01:30:59.000 And many of the things that people have been demonetized for and penalized for have turned out to actually be true.
01:31:04.000 That's right.
01:31:05.000 A lot of them, right?
01:31:06.000 And so we have to be open to the idea that the correct answer to dealing with a problem of who's right is let people talk it out.
01:31:15.000 Yes.
01:31:16.000 You gotta let people talk it out.
01:31:17.000 And I understand that you're gonna have horrible people, like Holocaust deniers and fucking Nazis.
01:31:23.000 You're gonna have horrible people.
01:31:24.000 But you're also gonna have people that push back against horrible people.
01:31:28.000 That's right.
01:31:28.000 And the laws that we have in place, like the rules that we all agree on, are like, don't threaten people, don't dox people, allow for discourse.
01:31:37.000 Allow for people to agree or disagree.
01:31:39.000 Even if they say the nuttiest shit.
01:31:40.000 Trump was appointed by Jesus and he will now be president forever when Jesus returns.
01:31:45.000 I think what's going to happen is there'll be places where people are going to say that.
01:31:50.000 YouTube is this big, big platform, right?
01:31:55.000 But I do think you have other platforms like Rumble.
01:31:59.000 And like Odyssey, and they're just never gonna be as big as YouTube, but I think you know Rumble's got what 60 million people on there?
01:32:05.000 It's not small.
01:32:06.000 No, Rumble's really growing.
01:32:08.000 They're growing huge, and they're signing people too.
01:32:10.000 They're signing people to go over to Rumble, which makes sense.
01:32:13.000 Yeah, YouTube to me is like a place to put your content.
01:32:16.000 To me it is not, I mean I think it's very important.
01:32:20.000 I would love it to be governed differently, but I don't have a say in that.
01:32:24.000 Listen, YouTube is fantastic.
01:32:26.000 And this is not from the perspective of me doing a podcast that airs on YouTube, just from what I enjoy out of it.
01:32:35.000 I'm a fan of pool.
01:32:37.000 It just seems like a stupid thing, right?
01:32:38.000 Yeah, it is.
01:32:39.000 It's just a stupid game.
01:32:40.000 I'm fascinated by it, and I've always tried to play well.
01:32:45.000 And I watch old matches.
01:32:46.000 I can watch matches from the 1970s.
01:32:49.000 Like, these were never available before.
01:32:50.000 Before, there was a company called Accustats, and I'd buy them.
01:32:54.000 I had boxes, boxes of VHS tapes, like this high, of Accustats boxes, like old Buddy Hall versus Keith McCready in 1988, and I would watch those things, because you learn how guys move the balls around the table.
01:33:06.000 Those were impossible to find back then.
01:33:08.000 I used to have to hoard them, but you'd have to get them from this online company.
01:33:12.000 But now you can get them on YouTube instantaneously.
01:33:15.000 Any instructional you want to know on basically anything.
01:33:19.000 You want to learn archery?
01:33:21.000 John Dudley has a full series of from the beginning of picking up a bow, setting your drawing.
01:33:26.000 All of it's taught.
01:33:27.000 You can learn from the masters.
01:33:29.000 You can learn how to play guitar or piano.
01:33:31.000 What about a council?
01:33:31.000 If YouTube was a little more democratic, there was a council, decisions weren't made in the background.
01:33:37.000 Groom all the time.
01:33:39.000 The problem is, Steve will do it, who's a friend of mine, part of the Nelk thing, the Nelk boys, he just, his channel was completely deleted because he didn't blur out like a URL of some gambling website.
01:33:50.000 He was, you know, just one of those clerical mistakes.
01:33:54.000 Did he get it back?
01:33:55.000 What kind of coffee is that?
01:33:56.000 Black.
01:33:57.000 Yeah, okay.
01:33:57.000 Black rifle.
01:33:59.000 Is it like crazy?
01:34:01.000 No, it's just awesome.
01:34:02.000 I don't know if it's one of those.
01:34:03.000 No, it's really good.
01:34:04.000 Shout out to Evan, Evan Hafer, my buddy who owns it.
01:34:09.000 And Matt Best.
01:34:10.000 Shout out.
01:34:11.000 Shout out, boys.
01:34:12.000 They make dope coffee.
01:34:13.000 It's really good.
01:34:14.000 He's a coffee nut.
01:34:15.000 He started Black Rifle Coffee because he was roasting coffee on the back of his Humvee when he was overseas.
01:34:20.000 Interesting.
01:34:21.000 Yeah, he's that much of a coffee nut.
01:34:23.000 He'd bring a roaster with him to war.
01:34:25.000 Yeah.
01:34:26.000 He was like, there's a thing about having a nice cup of coffee that sort of sets the mood of the day.
01:34:30.000 Yeah, so this is the coffee they drank before they carpet bombed the Iraqi families.
01:34:34.000 Yum.
01:34:38.000 That's what I'm scared of more than anything, is drone warfare.
01:34:40.000 Drug warfare?
01:34:41.000 Drone.
01:34:42.000 Drone warfare.
01:34:42.000 Oh, drone, yeah.
01:34:43.000 I'm scared of that more than anything.
01:34:44.000 What about the stuff in Baja now, Mexico, California?
01:34:46.000 What is going on there?
01:34:48.000 Is that cartels?
01:34:49.000 What's happening?
01:34:49.000 My friend, Ed Calderon, he's been on the podcast a couple of times.
01:34:52.000 He's an expert in cartels, and he explains the way it works down there.
01:34:58.000 It's a very violent cartel war.
01:35:00.000 Right.
01:35:01.000 They're lighting cars on fire to block the exit so you can't get into San Diego.
01:35:05.000 Jesus.
01:35:05.000 Like they're blocked off the highway.
01:35:07.000 Yeah, it's scary shit.
01:35:08.000 They installed a curfew at night so no one is allowed to be on the street by word of the cartel and everybody responds to it.
01:35:16.000 Yeah.
01:35:16.000 So do we need them to come in to fix LA? Can we just bring the cartel in?
01:35:22.000 This is, you know, what happens when you have no rules, right?
01:35:25.000 Yeah.
01:35:26.000 The people with the power make all the rules.
01:35:27.000 Sounds like there's more rules in downtown LA. We could use a curfew.
01:35:31.000 Let's bring in the cartel.
01:35:33.000 Why not?
01:35:34.000 That's like the people that say, like, it was better when the mob ran Vegas.
01:35:37.000 Yeah, unless they killed you.
01:35:39.000 Yeah.
01:35:40.000 Look at what's going on here.
01:35:41.000 Yeah.
01:35:42.000 It's wild down there.
01:35:43.000 Yeah, they're lighting buses on fire and shit.
01:35:45.000 Now, what is this about?
01:35:46.000 What is the general problem?
01:35:47.000 That's a good question.
01:35:49.000 That I don't have the answer to.
01:35:50.000 We should probably Google this.
01:35:52.000 There's some sort of dispute over territory, I'm assuming.
01:35:56.000 But here's the thing.
01:35:57.000 These people have insane sums of money.
01:36:01.000 They're making insane sums of money.
01:36:03.000 They have incredible resources at their disposal.
01:36:07.000 You don't understand what you're talking about when someone doesn't pay taxes and they're selling cocaine.
01:36:13.000 And they're getting it through the United States every day.
01:36:15.000 They're making fucking billions and billions of dollars.
01:36:18.000 That's crazy.
01:36:19.000 And a lot of them are very smart when it comes to business.
01:36:24.000 They understand what they're doing.
01:36:25.000 And they control territory the way businesses control territory.
01:36:29.000 They just do it in a crazy, ruthless way.
01:36:31.000 So like one cartel will have like one swath of territory.
01:36:34.000 And it didn't used to be like that.
01:36:36.000 This is all funded by the drug war.
01:36:38.000 All of this.
01:36:39.000 This is like us eating poison and wondering why we're dying.
01:36:44.000 Like this was literally funded by This desire that other people have to control what you can and can't do with your body because of existing laws.
01:36:53.000 Not because of rational, logical thinking about other intelligent human beings and their perspectives, and whether or not they can handle this, or whether or not this is beneficial to them.
01:37:02.000 No, they just decide, sweepingly, that they can control you.
01:37:06.000 That's wild.
01:37:07.000 It's wild.
01:37:07.000 It's amazing how the turf wars, where it's like one cartel's We have the right to provide product to this area.
01:37:16.000 Yeah.
01:37:16.000 Like one cartel goes, we have Whitney Cummings House, you know?
01:37:19.000 And then they get in a fight about who can...
01:37:21.000 It's weird to me that...
01:37:23.000 We funded that.
01:37:25.000 Yeah.
01:37:25.000 With laws.
01:37:26.000 Yeah.
01:37:26.000 Because if they didn't pass that sweeping...
01:37:29.000 Why do you think we did that?
01:37:30.000 For money.
01:37:31.000 Yeah.
01:37:32.000 For money.
01:37:33.000 You can control it.
01:37:35.000 They're still selling opiates.
01:37:37.000 They're selling heroin.
01:37:39.000 Our narco state is on our southern border.
01:37:42.000 Really, there's no reason for that unless we have some hand in it.
01:37:45.000 It's because we made it illegal.
01:37:47.000 So the only way you can make money selling the stuff that people want, like cocaine, is you got to get it illegally in here.
01:37:53.000 But there's a massive business.
01:37:54.000 And they're pretending it doesn't exist?
01:37:56.000 Or you're gonna fucking stop it by arresting a few people here and there?
01:38:00.000 No way.
01:38:01.000 Do you know how much money is involved?
01:38:02.000 You see these fucking tunnels these guys dig?
01:38:04.000 It's crazy.
01:38:04.000 They have electricity in them and shit.
01:38:07.000 They're miles long.
01:38:09.000 Bro.
01:38:10.000 These people are well-funded.
01:38:12.000 They're well-funded.
01:38:13.000 And they're funded by our stupid fucking laws.
01:38:16.000 Do you think it'll ever get to a point where we legalize everything?
01:38:18.000 The problem is we're so coddled.
01:38:20.000 If everything became legal tomorrow, people would die.
01:38:23.000 For sure.
01:38:24.000 For sure, we would lose folks.
01:38:26.000 It would be a problem.
01:38:28.000 They're not innocuous.
01:38:29.000 When you're talking about giving people heroin and giving people cocaine, I think you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want if you were an informed, consenting adult.
01:38:38.000 That's my stance on anything you want to do.
01:38:40.000 There's so much fentanyl.
01:38:41.000 But that said, if that shit just becomes legal everywhere and you could just go to 7-Eleven and buy meth, People are gonna die.
01:38:49.000 That's right.
01:38:49.000 It's gonna happen.
01:38:50.000 That's right.
01:38:51.000 Because you're gonna have more access to it.
01:38:52.000 You'll probably have way more addicts.
01:38:54.000 Right.
01:38:54.000 They're gonna have to learn how to use this.
01:38:56.000 It's like, there's an argument that they make about kids in Europe.
01:39:00.000 Like in Italy, when you're young, you could drink wine.
01:39:03.000 So they let kids drink wine, and they don't become alcoholics as much.
01:39:07.000 It's not even nearly the rate that we have in America.
01:39:10.000 Because they don't make it this horrible forbidden fruit that one day, one day I'm gonna get my hand on that carrot and dangle that drink.
01:39:18.000 21, it's your first drink, Billy, wink, wink.
01:39:21.000 And then here's the car keys, here's the booze.
01:39:23.000 And it's always wink, wink.
01:39:24.000 It's your first drink, right?
01:39:26.000 Everybody's had a drink before 21. Everybody.
01:39:28.000 Everybody.
01:39:28.000 Nobody fucking waits.
01:39:29.000 It's stupid.
01:39:30.000 You just can't go to a bar.
01:39:31.000 So you make it this forbidden fruit that people can't wait to get to.
01:39:35.000 So it becomes a giant part of their life.
01:39:38.000 Let's get drunk.
01:39:38.000 We can get drunk.
01:39:39.000 It's the weekend.
01:39:40.000 We can get drunk.
01:39:41.000 That's right.
01:39:42.000 Yeah, it's fun to get drunk.
01:39:43.000 That's right.
01:39:43.000 It's great.
01:39:44.000 It's a good product.
01:39:45.000 Yeah.
01:39:45.000 They figured out something that actually does make things more silly.
01:39:48.000 Right.
01:39:49.000 I mean, if that was illegal, you would have organized crime, and that's what they fucking had.
01:39:55.000 We know it.
01:39:56.000 That's how the mob emerged.
01:39:57.000 That's right.
01:39:58.000 That's where they got all their money.
01:39:59.000 That's right.
01:39:59.000 They were selling alcohol to fucking NASCAR drivers.
01:40:02.000 Such a bad system.
01:40:03.000 That's what NASCAR is.
01:40:05.000 Yeah.
01:40:05.000 NASCAR was, they developed that.
01:40:07.000 We're moonshiners.
01:40:09.000 Yeah.
01:40:09.000 They're trying to get the fuck away from cops.
01:40:11.000 It's amazing.
01:40:11.000 They souped up their cars.
01:40:12.000 That's fucking amazing.
01:40:13.000 That's the origin of NASCAR. That's crazy.
01:40:15.000 It's one of the most American things of all time.
01:40:16.000 Ever.
01:40:16.000 Ever.
01:40:17.000 NASCAR is one of the most American things of all time.
01:40:19.000 Just high powered moonshine vehicles.
01:40:22.000 Moonshine vehicles, wild southern boys just going down dirt roads sideways in a 69 Charger.
01:40:27.000 Yeah, and that's the fucking genesis of NASCAR. That's the genesis.
01:40:32.000 That's crazy.
01:40:32.000 That's where it started from.
01:40:33.000 That's amazing.
01:40:34.000 So many people don't know that.
01:40:35.000 Those crazy motherfuckers were running alcohol, getting away from cops and souped up cars.
01:40:40.000 Well, do you think we'll be like, do you think federal legalization's coming of marijuana?
01:40:44.000 I think it should have come when the Biden administration took office.
01:40:49.000 That was one of their promises.
01:40:50.000 You should do that.
01:40:52.000 You should exonerate people that are in jail for selling it to.
01:40:54.000 There's a guy that's in jail that I just sent something to.
01:40:58.000 He was in Phoenix.
01:41:00.000 This is one of the craziest fucking stories you'll ever hear.
01:41:02.000 This guy was in Phoenix and he sold weed to an undercover cop I think four times in small amounts that's four times it was a total of Here I'll send you the link Jamie four times it was a total of a little bit over an ounce so because it was over an ounce they were allowed to charge him and They put him in jail for 15 years now in Phoenix right now 16 years excuse me in Phoenix or
01:41:32.000 and they just denied Clemency for this job I mean, the guy was just selling weed.
01:41:38.000 Right.
01:41:38.000 You know, and maybe did bad things from the past.
01:41:41.000 But whatever he did was not worthy of this while there's legal weed right now in Phoenix.
01:41:47.000 And people are making millions and millions.
01:41:48.000 Just because someone did something in the past they already did their time for, doesn't mean a small thing like selling weed...
01:41:53.000 And this is a kid.
01:41:54.000 ...should lock someone in a fucking cage.
01:41:55.000 I don't know how old he is.
01:41:56.000 Well, let's say a South Phoenix kid.
01:41:58.000 Got 16 years.
01:41:58.000 How old is he?
01:41:59.000 Does it say how old this guy is?
01:42:01.000 21. 21. Jesus fucking Christ.
01:42:03.000 That's crazy.
01:42:04.000 So 21, you're gonna give him 15 years because he sold an undercover cop.
01:42:09.000 This is fucked up.
01:42:11.000 Weed four times.
01:42:11.000 It's entrapment.
01:42:13.000 It's fucked.
01:42:13.000 Well, first of all, yes, he was selling weed.
01:42:16.000 Yes, he was selling weed.
01:42:16.000 But who fucking cares?
01:42:18.000 There's so many crimes being committed.
01:42:20.000 This is the most mild of crimes.
01:42:22.000 The guy selling weed?
01:42:23.000 That should not be something you should arrest someone for.
01:42:26.000 Like, don't break the law.
01:42:27.000 Okay, when you have no more robbers, and no more murderers, and no more rapists, and no more fucking carjackers, when all that stuff is complete zero...
01:42:39.000 Then, focus on weed.
01:42:41.000 This is stupid.
01:42:42.000 It was never fair to me that so many people lost their entire lives.
01:42:46.000 No, not fair.
01:42:47.000 And that should be changed.
01:42:49.000 It doesn't make any sense.
01:42:50.000 They're still in jail.
01:42:51.000 Like when we're talking about Brittany Griner, yes, it's terrible that they put her in jail for that.
01:42:55.000 It's crazy.
01:42:56.000 But it's crazy that we have thousands of people in America in jail for the same fucking thing.
01:43:00.000 Thousands and thousands and thousands of them.
01:43:02.000 Do you think we'll get her out?
01:43:03.000 No.
01:43:03.000 I think they're gonna make a negotiation.
01:43:06.000 Politically, it's a smart thing to do.
01:43:08.000 I think to leave her in jail is a horrible slight.
01:43:11.000 That's right.
01:43:12.000 But it also highlights the many Americans that are in jail that they haven't tried to get, that were supposedly tried for.
01:43:19.000 Maybe false accusations of espionage or whatever it is.
01:43:23.000 All kinds of wild shit.
01:43:23.000 There's a lot of people in jail, in foreign prisons, that probably shouldn't be in jail.
01:43:28.000 And we're all aware of that.
01:43:30.000 And I get that this woman is loved, and I get what happened to her was horrible.
01:43:35.000 It's fucked.
01:43:36.000 It's beyond fucked, right?
01:43:37.000 But we have people in America right now that are locked up.
01:43:42.000 And they basically did the same thing.
01:43:44.000 They just had something on them they weren't supposed to have.
01:43:46.000 That's right.
01:43:47.000 Whether they're selling...
01:43:48.000 If you want to get him for tax evasion, and say he owes you money because he's been selling $100,000 worth of weed a month for the last three years, okay, get him on that.
01:43:55.000 Yeah.
01:43:56.000 Get him on that.
01:43:57.000 If you find some big-time drug dealer, and he's driving a Lamborghini and doesn't pay taxes, hey, bro.
01:44:01.000 Right.
01:44:03.000 Give me some money.
01:44:04.000 Give me some money and plus you might have to go to jail.
01:44:07.000 I hope that we figure out a way to do that.
01:44:09.000 I mean, it should absolutely be a priority of any supposedly progressive group of people to figure out a way to stop the bleeding there and get these people out of jail, have their lives restored,
01:44:26.000 and stop people from going into jail for non-violent Drug offenses.
01:44:32.000 You're also not giving a person a chance to grow.
01:44:35.000 You know, you're putting them in this situation where you stop all of their, like this one decision that they make at 21 years old.
01:44:43.000 Is defining their entire life.
01:44:44.000 It's just to sell weed.
01:44:46.000 How heartless is that?
01:44:48.000 Yeah.
01:44:48.000 It's heartless.
01:44:49.000 It's tough.
01:44:50.000 It's heartless.
01:44:50.000 And I knew kids that got caught with a lot of stuff and they had the money to get big time lawyers and then they didn't get those sentences.
01:44:57.000 Right.
01:44:57.000 So it is, you know, it's uneven.
01:45:00.000 And, you know, they point to history of crime, that people have a history of doing things.
01:45:04.000 Like, yeah, I'm sure he does.
01:45:06.000 But if he did his time for that, like, you can't just automatically, retroactively attach something that's innocuous, like selling weed today, with, you know, assault from ten years ago, or whatever it was.
01:45:20.000 You can't do that.
01:45:21.000 Can't.
01:45:21.000 You can't do that.
01:45:22.000 No.
01:45:23.000 You can't do that, because if he did time for that, then he did time for that.
01:45:26.000 Yeah.
01:45:27.000 Well, I mean, does he have a history of it?
01:45:29.000 Yeah, but it shouldn't attach itself to this new crime.
01:45:31.000 No.
01:45:32.000 But I think he was on probation, too, which is also part of the problem.
01:45:34.000 Oh, then fuck him.
01:45:35.000 No, I'm kidding.
01:45:35.000 It's still bad.
01:45:36.000 It's still bad.
01:45:37.000 I think the probation alone puts him in jail for five years, the probation violation.
01:45:41.000 So we need a happy medium.
01:45:42.000 You can't have no cops, but you also can't have a draconian police state.
01:45:46.000 You've got to have...
01:45:48.000 That's what we talk about, that compromise, that rational attitude.
01:45:52.000 There also has to be some compassion for people.
01:45:55.000 That's right.
01:45:55.000 That's not a violent crime.
01:45:56.000 It's not a big deal.
01:45:57.000 There's got to be compassion for people.
01:45:59.000 Especially, I think, people that are younger and have their entire lives ahead of them.
01:46:05.000 And if they're not violent, and they're not killing people or hurting people, and they make a mistake like that, to doom them is crazy.
01:46:16.000 Listen, man, when I was 21, I was a fucking idiot.
01:46:19.000 I would have sold weed to a cop for sure.
01:46:22.000 100%.
01:46:23.000 The only reason I didn't get in trouble was luck.
01:46:25.000 You know, I could have gotten pulled over, intoxicated.
01:46:28.000 I drank, smoked weed.
01:46:30.000 I was doing all kinds of other drugs and I had them in my car and I was just lucky enough to never get pulled over when I had the bad stuff in my car.
01:46:40.000 I just had eight balls of cocaine in the car.
01:46:42.000 It's like, you know, but thank God, none of that.
01:46:44.000 But it's just luck.
01:46:46.000 It's the luck of the draw, you know?
01:46:48.000 A lot of it's the luck of the draw.
01:46:50.000 A lot of it is, you know...
01:46:51.000 I know guys that I knew that I used to hang out with that got popped for Deewees, they got popped for drugs, they did time in jail, they...
01:46:58.000 Kid I went to high school with got in a drunk traveling accident and killed his friend.
01:47:02.000 It's crazy.
01:47:03.000 It was a kid I knew well.
01:47:04.000 It's crazy.
01:47:04.000 I hung out with him all the time.
01:47:05.000 Young when they did it when he was young?
01:47:06.000 Fuck.
01:47:06.000 We were really young.
01:47:08.000 We were in high school.
01:47:09.000 Fuck.
01:47:09.000 Yeah.
01:47:10.000 And he's got to live with that for the rest of his life.
01:47:12.000 For the rest of his life.
01:47:13.000 You know?
01:47:14.000 Yeah.
01:47:15.000 I know a girl...
01:47:16.000 And he's not a bad guy.
01:47:18.000 No, of course.
01:47:19.000 He was a good guy.
01:47:20.000 He was a real good guy.
01:47:21.000 Friend of mine just used to date a girl.
01:47:24.000 She got three DWIs in Chicago, ten years in jail.
01:47:27.000 Jesus Christ.
01:47:28.000 Three on your third strike there.
01:47:30.000 They are not...
01:47:30.000 They don't fuck around.
01:47:31.000 Put you in for ten years.
01:47:33.000 Yeah, it should be that your car doesn't work.
01:47:35.000 Right.
01:47:36.000 You know, but nobody wants to give up to that.
01:47:38.000 No, no, people have somebody blowing the thing.
01:47:41.000 You get in your fucking car and it reads your, like, I have one of them whoop straps, you know, you put on your wrist, it measures your activity and your workouts and shit like that.
01:47:50.000 Why, you know, it's not the worst idea in the world, like, if you want to be able to drive a car, you should have an app that says, if you're sober, Because if you're really drunk and you think you can handle it- It's a problem.
01:48:04.000 That's a fucking problem.
01:48:05.000 Yeah, and there's a lot of people that make those decisions and you make one bad decision and your entire life is now It's irreversibly changed.
01:48:15.000 Especially when you're like 21, or this kid, my friend in high school was like, I think he was like 17 at the time.
01:48:20.000 Do the wrong thing.
01:48:21.000 I got in a car accident.
01:48:22.000 I was not high, but I got in a car accident when I was young, and my secretary, the secretary of my company was in the car, and she ended up being okay, but it was a bad head-on collision.
01:48:34.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
01:48:35.000 And it was like, you know, you imagine that, like, listen, you can get in an accident sober.
01:48:40.000 Yes.
01:48:40.000 Very easily.
01:48:41.000 So the reality is you up the ante, you're on drugs, you're drinking.
01:48:46.000 I mean, you can get in a life-changing event fucking sober.
01:48:49.000 So you do something like that, you get in a car.
01:48:52.000 I mean, thank God that the damage wasn't worse.
01:48:56.000 Thank God this woman was fat and she was able to take- A good impact.
01:49:00.000 A good impact.
01:49:01.000 It's true.
01:49:02.000 Cars are really well designed today, too.
01:49:05.000 Well, they're better than they were.
01:49:07.000 They're better than they were.
01:49:08.000 Oh, they're a lot better than they were.
01:49:09.000 But they're still fucking...
01:49:11.000 It's such a wild agreement that we have that you stay in your lane and I stay in my lane and we go kind of impossibly fast.
01:49:17.000 It's the one thing I miss.
01:49:18.000 About New York City.
01:49:19.000 There's a lot of things I miss about New York City.
01:49:21.000 But there is such a nice...
01:49:24.000 Someone like you, you're way too famous for it.
01:49:26.000 But when you don't have to drive, and you just walk around all day, and you look at your phone and you're like, I've done fucking 11,000 steps and I didn't even realize it.
01:49:36.000 And you're like, I walk all day.
01:49:37.000 You go, there's something nice about that as a lifestyle.
01:49:40.000 It's way better for you, that's for sure.
01:49:42.000 It's a lifestyle.
01:49:42.000 You go, I don't have to sit in traffic.
01:49:44.000 I can walk around.
01:49:46.000 There's something nice about not fucking having a car or having a car that you can use when you want.
01:49:53.000 But you go, the majority of the time, I'm on foot.
01:49:57.000 And that was my favorite thing I think about.
01:49:59.000 New York was like that pedestrian culture of like you could walk around a lot.
01:50:05.000 Right.
01:50:05.000 And you didn't have to necessarily be dependent on a car.
01:50:09.000 It is dangerous.
01:50:10.000 I mean, you get on the 405 at night, get on a 101, you see the way these people fucking drive.
01:50:16.000 There's always that one dude.
01:50:17.000 Even here in Austin, just anywhere late at night.
01:50:20.000 There's always that one dude in a pickup truck.
01:50:23.000 That's just going way too fucking fast.
01:50:26.000 Yeah, you know, it's like, and you see, and I'm not the best driver, I'm a pretty good driver, but I'll kill you.
01:50:33.000 You know what I mean?
01:50:34.000 You know, there's people that, I'm in Facebook groups about the cutting guy off a Whataburger and all that shit.
01:50:39.000 And I won't even mean to kill you, but I'll kill you, and I won't even mean it.
01:50:43.000 I won't even mean it.
01:50:44.000 I'll be on my phone.
01:50:46.000 And I'll just kill you and your family.
01:50:48.000 So it's so hard.
01:50:50.000 No, I try.
01:50:51.000 I'm a lot better now.
01:50:52.000 But I've totaled five cars.
01:50:53.000 When I was younger, I was really bad.
01:50:55.000 I was really bad.
01:50:57.000 I left the scene of most of those accidents.
01:50:59.000 Because it's a horrible way to meet someone.
01:51:02.000 To stay there.
01:51:04.000 A few of them I had to stay.
01:51:05.000 But some of them I was just like, pfft, later.
01:51:08.000 One woman got out of the car, started screaming, yelling, and I just went, enough.
01:51:11.000 She was fine.
01:51:12.000 I was like, enough.
01:51:14.000 But yeah, you just get in accidents all the time.
01:51:16.000 All the time.
01:51:17.000 All the time.
01:51:19.000 It's going to be interesting when those autonomous cars start going out.
01:51:26.000 They're coming.
01:51:27.000 Yeah, because right now the self-driving thing, it's very highly criticized.
01:51:31.000 It's not really there yet in terms of you can just turn your car on and take me to work.
01:51:35.000 And it avoids all the traffic, stops at the red light, lets pedestrians cross in front of you, knows when a car is changing lanes or not changing lanes.
01:51:43.000 It's not perfect yet.
01:51:44.000 That's right.
01:51:44.000 And people do things now where they get up beside Teslas and if they think you're on autopilot, they'll like kind of half-swerve in your lane.
01:51:52.000 Really?
01:51:52.000 Fuck!
01:51:52.000 Yeah, Redband was telling me about it.
01:51:54.000 I think someone did it to him.
01:51:57.000 And realized like, oh my god, the car just reacts.
01:52:00.000 Because if he's on the highway, he would just put it on the autopilot.
01:52:04.000 Which is good for the highway.
01:52:05.000 And it just stays in the lanes.
01:52:07.000 Is Tesla your favorite car of your cars?
01:52:09.000 It's the most impressive.
01:52:10.000 Right.
01:52:11.000 Yeah.
01:52:11.000 I mean, I love cars just because I love cars that aren't even that fast.
01:52:15.000 I have like an old Porsche.
01:52:16.000 It's a 1993 Porsche.
01:52:18.000 But it's fucking great.
01:52:19.000 But the Tesla's a really impressive car.
01:52:21.000 It's way more impressive than anything else that I've ever driven by a long shot.
01:52:25.000 The 0-60 is 1.9 seconds.
01:52:27.000 It doesn't make any sense.
01:52:29.000 It's completely silent inside.
01:52:31.000 It's very nice.
01:52:32.000 It's very smooth.
01:52:33.000 It's great over bumps and shit.
01:52:35.000 It handles great for essentially a four-door sedan.
01:52:39.000 It has a great center of gravity because all the batteries are down low.
01:52:42.000 It's just a marvel.
01:52:43.000 It's a marvel.
01:52:45.000 When I drove it today, I was like, Jesus Christ, this thing is like a marvel.
01:52:49.000 It just...
01:52:51.000 It just goes.
01:52:53.000 There's no gears.
01:52:54.000 It's just one gear, which seems so superior.
01:52:57.000 Once you get used to it, you're like, oh my god.
01:53:00.000 When you're used to the acceleration of an electric car, it's instantaneous.
01:53:03.000 It just goes, and it goes to where you want to go.
01:53:05.000 It just goes.
01:53:06.000 Yeah.
01:53:07.000 It's great.
01:53:07.000 It's got a lot of nanny things in it.
01:53:09.000 It recognizes things that aren't really a problem.
01:53:11.000 I hate that.
01:53:11.000 Like if you're turning down a road and there's a tree in front of you.
01:53:16.000 A little alarm will go off.
01:53:18.000 I'm like, I'm not going to hit the tree.
01:53:19.000 What I like about my car, the Bentley, is that it doesn't care.
01:53:23.000 So nothing's automatic.
01:53:25.000 You have to put the lights on.
01:53:27.000 Everything.
01:53:28.000 Because they're like, maybe you just killed a hooker.
01:53:29.000 And you're driving out of a...
01:53:31.000 There's no lane sensor.
01:53:33.000 You could go in another lane.
01:53:34.000 You don't have to signal.
01:53:36.000 Yeah, it doesn't care.
01:53:38.000 It's a British gentleman's car.
01:53:40.000 And a British gentleman can do what he wants.
01:53:44.000 A Bentley is a car made for a British gentleman.
01:53:47.000 How quiet is it in there?
01:53:48.000 It's quiet and it's heavy.
01:53:50.000 Heavy.
01:53:51.000 It's heavy and it's quiet.
01:53:52.000 And it's, you know, it's a beast.
01:53:54.000 The Flying Spur is a beast, a big sedan.
01:53:56.000 And it's, you know.
01:53:58.000 Does it feel smooth when you're driving?
01:53:59.000 Oh, there's nothing like it.
01:54:01.000 There's no driving experience like it.
01:54:03.000 In what way?
01:54:04.000 It's just a smooth, you float.
01:54:07.000 Oh.
01:54:08.000 Yeah, it's great.
01:54:09.000 The Teslas are nice, but they're gay.
01:54:12.000 And it's what it is.
01:54:14.000 They're, like, not a lot of money.
01:54:16.000 Anyone can kind of drive them.
01:54:17.000 Teachers drive them.
01:54:18.000 It's gross.
01:54:20.000 But the Bentley, it's just kind of an old-school British gentleman.
01:54:23.000 It's a British gentleman's car.
01:54:24.000 You know?
01:54:25.000 James Bond!
01:54:27.000 So I have cars that I drive, like the Tesla is a car.
01:54:32.000 But then what I really love is muscle cars.
01:54:35.000 Yeah, you love that.
01:54:36.000 Those are not like- Luxurious.
01:54:39.000 No.
01:54:40.000 They're tough.
01:54:40.000 Well, they're just fun.
01:54:42.000 They're fun.
01:54:42.000 They're fun.
01:54:43.000 And they're not practical at all.
01:54:45.000 And what's your favorite of those?
01:54:47.000 I don't really have a favorite.
01:54:48.000 I love them all.
01:54:49.000 But I have a 1969 Camaro.
01:54:52.000 That's cool.
01:54:53.000 And it's all completely redone by this company called Roaster Shop.
01:54:57.000 It's amazing.
01:54:58.000 It drives like a modern car.
01:55:00.000 It's amazing.
01:55:01.000 The brakes are amazing.
01:55:03.000 The acceleration is amazing.
01:55:04.000 But the thing about it that's the most amazing is you're in this thing from 1969 that's been redone and built up like a modern car.
01:55:12.000 It drives like a modern car.
01:55:14.000 You're having that experience of somebody like, you know, you're imagining like, you know, being in that car in the prime 1969. Yeah, but it's way better.
01:55:22.000 It's better.
01:55:23.000 No, you're experiencing that, but now you have none of the problems that it would have.
01:55:27.000 God, those cars are terrible.
01:55:29.000 I've driven one of those cars recently that didn't have anything new on it.
01:55:32.000 It's terrible.
01:55:33.000 They're worth so much money.
01:55:34.000 You can get like an old Barracuda, like a perfect Barracuda, numbers matching.
01:55:38.000 They're going for a million dollars.
01:55:40.000 Right.
01:55:40.000 A million dollars for a car that's terrible to drive.
01:55:43.000 Yeah.
01:55:43.000 Do you like boats at all?
01:55:45.000 I do like boats.
01:55:46.000 Interesting.
01:55:46.000 I've been getting into speed boats, not getting into them, but watching the races on YouTube.
01:55:50.000 It's crazy.
01:55:51.000 Oh, it's so crazy.
01:55:52.000 Some of those Donzie boats, some of those crazy speed boats.
01:55:54.000 Fuck.
01:55:54.000 Going fast in the water.
01:55:56.000 It's scary.
01:55:56.000 That's a silly way to go flying through the air.
01:55:59.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
01:56:00.000 It's stupid.
01:56:00.000 But you see those cigarette boats?
01:56:02.000 Oh, dude, they're nuts.
01:56:03.000 They catch wind, and they go flying through the air.
01:56:05.000 I'm like, fuck all of that.
01:56:07.000 Fuck that shit.
01:56:08.000 Austin has a lot of regular people that live here, like Sandra Bullock and Matthew McConaughey and Elon Musk.
01:56:13.000 All of your friends are regular people.
01:56:14.000 You're a regular working class guy around regular people.
01:56:18.000 You have a very simple life.
01:56:21.000 Simple needs, bro.
01:56:21.000 These are simple...
01:56:22.000 That's the thing.
01:56:23.000 That's what I like about Austin.
01:56:24.000 There's a lot of good, salt-to-the-earth people here who are talking about NFTs.
01:56:30.000 These are the people that you would grow up with.
01:56:32.000 Have they crashed because of all the stock market crash?
01:56:35.000 Well, yeah.
01:56:36.000 I mean, they've crashed, man.
01:56:38.000 Are they still being bought, though?
01:56:40.000 The people that are into them now seem a little frantic.
01:56:47.000 Like the jig is up?
01:56:48.000 The jig's up a little bit.
01:56:49.000 People are not...
01:56:51.000 They're not...
01:56:52.000 That is a great hustle though, man.
01:56:54.000 They got people to buy pictures.
01:56:55.000 It was a great hustle.
01:56:56.000 For millions.
01:56:57.000 It'll come back in another form that makes more sense.
01:57:00.000 It won't be Pets.com.
01:57:01.000 It'll come back in a way where it's like...
01:57:03.000 It'll be Amazon where it comes back and you go, oh, I get it now.
01:57:06.000 But at the moment, it's silly.
01:57:09.000 And at the moment, I think people are like, fuck this shit.
01:57:11.000 Well, let me say something, though.
01:57:12.000 There's levels to it.
01:57:13.000 And the levels to it where it makes sense is people create digital art.
01:57:18.000 Yes.
01:57:18.000 And that's like Beeple.
01:57:20.000 What that Beeple guy does?
01:57:21.000 Yeah.
01:57:21.000 He's literally putting together a giant gallery.
01:57:25.000 Yeah.
01:57:25.000 So he actually has, like, physical art.
01:57:27.000 Yeah.
01:57:27.000 And he made that thing, too.
01:57:28.000 And then he'll sell that.
01:57:30.000 Yeah.
01:57:30.000 You can have an NFT of that.
01:57:31.000 Yeah.
01:57:32.000 You get, like, a whole thing that goes with it.
01:57:34.000 It's a different sort of...
01:57:36.000 You're buying art.
01:57:37.000 There'll be a way to...
01:57:40.000 Ten years from now, we'll look back and we'll go, oh, that's what it was supposed to be.
01:57:44.000 Like everything else, in the late 90s, there was this crazy rush to the internet.
01:57:51.000 But before, there was the infrastructure there and there were these wild companies.
01:57:55.000 Obviously, Pets.com is the one that everyone talks about.
01:57:57.000 But there was a lot of these companies, including Amazon, lost like 90% of their value, right?
01:58:04.000 And some of them died.
01:58:05.000 And then Amazon came back to be one of the biggest companies in the world, if not the biggest.
01:58:09.000 So I think eventually what happens is years from now, we will see how all this technology is applied.
01:58:15.000 And it'll make a lot more sense then.
01:58:19.000 But as of right now, it's a big mess.
01:58:23.000 It's a big mess.
01:58:24.000 There's a lot of criminals.
01:58:25.000 There's a lot of opportunists.
01:58:27.000 A lot of fucking desperate people.
01:58:29.000 There's a whole...
01:58:30.000 It's a soup of humanity out there trying to figure out what the applications are.
01:58:35.000 I wonder if it'll ever get to a point where televisions and super high definition televisions are everywhere.
01:58:43.000 And if someone could have a digital piece of art that's so astounding, and you could only see it on a digital television, And so you would get one, it would be like, oh my god, he's got an original Beeple.
01:58:57.000 And you can replicate it.
01:59:01.000 It's like replicating a Frank Frazetta painting.
01:59:03.000 Like I have a print of a Frank Frazetta painting, but it's not an actual Frank Frazetta painting.
01:59:07.000 Right.
01:59:07.000 That's worth a million dollars or more.
01:59:09.000 Probably more.
01:59:10.000 Right.
01:59:10.000 But to have an original digital art might be representative to people.
01:59:16.000 Or to just be in a club, right?
01:59:18.000 Because that's essentially what that is.
01:59:20.000 It's like an NFT. It gains you admission into some kind of club.
01:59:23.000 And it's a flex.
01:59:24.000 And maybe there's certain live streams you can get into.
01:59:26.000 Maybe there's certain events you can get into and live events.
01:59:29.000 The idea, basically, is that...
01:59:32.000 You have something that has a value to you.
01:59:35.000 Yeah.
01:59:36.000 And the people that want it.
01:59:37.000 Just like everything else in the world.
01:59:38.000 Just like a Ferrari is a value to a guy that can afford a Ferrari but also wants a Ferrari.
01:59:44.000 Right.
01:59:44.000 He's got to want it.
01:59:45.000 And then to him, a Ferrari has more value than anything else in the world.
01:59:49.000 And he'll pay a million dollars for it.
01:59:51.000 But to somebody else, maybe that has a million dollars, a guy who don't fucking want a Ferrari.
01:59:55.000 So it's really that's really what it comes down to.
01:59:59.000 It's like these things will have a lot of value to the people that they're holders and then other people as well.
02:00:05.000 But then a lot of people go, yeah, fuck that.
02:00:07.000 I don't want that.
02:00:08.000 Yeah, I could see it being a thing where it could be like someone says, look, I have an original Picasso.
02:00:16.000 I could see it being a thing like that.
02:00:18.000 For sure.
02:00:18.000 Where it's like images on a screen, like maybe it's a number, right?
02:00:21.000 Maybe the art is based around a number.
02:00:24.000 Oh, I've got a number one.
02:00:25.000 Oh my god, is that the number one?
02:00:27.000 Yes.
02:00:27.000 And if you had a number one in your house, people would be like, bitch, you don't have number one.
02:00:31.000 That's right.
02:00:31.000 Tim Dillon has number one.
02:00:32.000 It's in the registry.
02:00:34.000 Or they go, I'm a member of the JRE whatever.
02:00:36.000 And that entitles me to whatever.
02:00:39.000 I get something because I'm a member of this club and I want to be in it and this NFT gives me this Preferred status in this thing that I really like and enjoy.
02:00:49.000 There's a way to do that, some kind of fan club.
02:00:52.000 I'm thinking Tim Dillon Nation.
02:00:54.000 Yeah, that won't get shut down by the feds.
02:00:59.000 If you have a right-wing radio show someday, it's got to be Tim Dillon Nation.
02:01:04.000 Dillon Nation?
02:01:05.000 Yeah.
02:01:05.000 Tim Dillon Nation.
02:01:05.000 I could make a lot of money if I went that route.
02:01:08.000 I think a few years from now I will.
02:01:11.000 Just move to Florida and go completely insane.
02:01:13.000 Just move to the Keys.
02:01:14.000 The thing is, when you move to Florida, you got to lose it completely.
02:01:17.000 Yeah.
02:01:17.000 And all the friends I have that live there, they're all so happy, but they're on the beach screaming about the FBI. So how happy can you be?
02:01:26.000 But when you move to Florida, you just got to let it go.
02:01:28.000 Just got to let it fly.
02:01:29.000 Yeah, well, Florida has a long history of chaos.
02:01:33.000 A long history of chaos, I mean, from the Cubans coming in to the prisoners being released by Castro.
02:01:40.000 Oh, yeah.
02:01:41.000 All the Scarface stuff, the Coke days.
02:01:44.000 It's a cool place.
02:01:44.000 My good buddy, Steve Graham, he's a good friend of mine, he's an ophthalmologist, and he did his residency in Miami in the 80s.
02:01:52.000 Wow.
02:01:53.000 So he was working in the hospitals when people were just coming in with gunshot wounds and...
02:01:58.000 Cocaine everywhere.
02:01:59.000 He said it was wild.
02:02:01.000 It's gotta be insane.
02:02:02.000 He's got some crazy fucking stories.
02:02:04.000 It was in the heart of all the chaos.
02:02:06.000 The heart of it.
02:02:06.000 And he's working in the emergency room.
02:02:07.000 Yeah.
02:02:08.000 I mean, that state is one of those states where it just has that ethos of crazy is tolerated and encouraged.
02:02:14.000 Well, they had more banks per capita in Miami than anywhere else.
02:02:20.000 They were doing money laundering for blow.
02:02:21.000 Fuck yeah!
02:02:22.000 That city was built on coke!
02:02:24.000 That wild ass city was built on coke.
02:02:27.000 That's why buildings are collapsing and everything.
02:02:28.000 Have you seen cocaine cowboys?
02:02:29.000 Oh yeah.
02:02:30.000 It's great.
02:02:31.000 And two, it's just as good.
02:02:33.000 They're fucking phenomenal.
02:02:35.000 But when you realize the history of Miami, you're like, holy shit.
02:02:38.000 It's a wild city.
02:02:39.000 Wild!
02:02:40.000 It's wild.
02:02:41.000 They had one class, a graduating class at the police academy, where the entire class was either murdered or went to jail.
02:02:50.000 Right.
02:02:51.000 It's insane.
02:02:52.000 They were all just selling coke!
02:02:53.000 Right.
02:02:55.000 It was wild!
02:02:56.000 Dudes were making millions of dollars and buried in their backyard.
02:02:59.000 They didn't know what to do.
02:03:00.000 It was like a no man's land, no laws.
02:03:02.000 It was chaos.
02:03:03.000 Chaos.
02:03:04.000 And that Griselda Blanca.
02:03:06.000 Griselda Blanca.
02:03:08.000 Tough bitch.
02:03:09.000 Craziest, most evil woman that's ever been documented.
02:03:14.000 Yeah.
02:03:15.000 And she lived in Miami?
02:03:16.000 She lived in Miami, and they exported her, they sent her to prison somewhere, and then she eventually got out, but I think she got killed.
02:03:24.000 Right.
02:03:24.000 What happened to her?
02:03:25.000 Did she die recently?
02:03:29.000 Do you remember?
02:03:30.000 I think they covered that in Cocaine Cowboys 2. I just haven't watched it in a long time.
02:03:35.000 Yeah.
02:03:35.000 But that lady was terrifying.
02:03:37.000 She was no joke.
02:03:39.000 Yeah.
02:03:41.000 That's so scary.
02:03:42.000 But you know, it's good to have a passion.
02:03:44.000 She had something that she wanted to deal with.
02:03:48.000 No one gets to that level that isn't into it.
02:03:51.000 She was murdered.
02:03:52.000 Yeah, you know Jennifer Lopez was slated to play her in a movie.
02:03:58.000 Is that still happening?
02:04:00.000 And everybody's like, whoa, she's way too hot.
02:04:02.000 Jennifer Lopez is hot as the sun.
02:04:05.000 Yeah, you can't have Jennifer Lopez do it.
02:04:07.000 That's going to take everyone out of it.
02:04:08.000 Well, it's also like Griselda Bronco wasn't the best looking woman.
02:04:12.000 No.
02:04:13.000 It wasn't even anything like that.
02:04:14.000 No, she was a tough bitch.
02:04:16.000 It's a different thing.
02:04:17.000 It's a different thing.
02:04:18.000 That's crazy.
02:04:19.000 Completely different.
02:04:20.000 Yeah.
02:04:21.000 It's a bad idea to have J-Lo.
02:04:23.000 It's like Ryan Gosling playing Andy Dick.
02:04:25.000 Not a good move.
02:04:26.000 It doesn't fit.
02:04:27.000 No.
02:04:28.000 But I would like to see that movie just with someone else in it.
02:04:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:04:32.000 Some really good actress that no one knows.
02:04:35.000 Yeah.
02:04:35.000 That would be the way to go with that.
02:04:36.000 There's Catherine Zeta-Jones' hair.
02:04:38.000 Oh.
02:04:38.000 Okay, that's better because they made her.
02:04:41.000 Maybe I'm wrong.
02:04:42.000 No, no, you're not wrong, but they were titled the same thing.
02:04:45.000 Oh, she's hot as fuck, too.
02:04:47.000 She's too hot.
02:04:48.000 This woman looks like Artie Lang.
02:04:50.000 No.
02:04:50.000 Ah, that's what I'm talking about.
02:04:52.000 See?
02:04:52.000 Look at the real Griselda Blanca.
02:04:54.000 I need to be doing this.
02:04:55.000 That's the real one.
02:04:56.000 No, I need to be in this.
02:04:58.000 We can get Bobby Lee for that part.
02:05:00.000 I need to be doing that.
02:05:01.000 Hey, papi.
02:05:03.000 Yeah, no, she's not a good-looking woman, which is why it's so crazy to have such gorgeous women.
02:05:08.000 You know what it is?
02:05:08.000 It's so funny.
02:05:09.000 It's like, that is the thing with Hollywood.
02:05:10.000 Again, with movies, nobody's going to watch it if she's gross.
02:05:14.000 That's true.
02:05:15.000 That's the thing that Hollywood will say.
02:05:17.000 They're like, we need a hot murderer because no one will watch...
02:05:20.000 It's very interesting.
02:05:21.000 They'll be like, yeah, no one will watch it unless...
02:05:25.000 Somebody.
02:05:25.000 There's some eye candy.
02:05:26.000 It's somebody good looking.
02:05:28.000 It would have to be an independent film, right?
02:05:30.000 That's right.
02:05:30.000 Are there big female movie stars that are not attractive at all?
02:05:34.000 Yeah, for sure.
02:05:36.000 You get some big women.
02:05:38.000 You get a few big women.
02:05:41.000 But it's rare that they like...
02:05:42.000 How about when they made this?
02:05:44.000 They had to make Charlize Theron.
02:05:45.000 Well, Charlize Theron did it to herself.
02:05:47.000 That woman's a beast.
02:05:48.000 That was directed by my friend Patty Jenkins.
02:05:51.000 That's one of the best movies.
02:05:52.000 It's a fucking phenomenal movie.
02:05:54.000 And Charlize Theron killed it, dude.
02:05:56.000 She killed it.
02:05:57.000 Right.
02:05:57.000 I mean that lady, she even looked like her man.
02:06:00.000 She did a great job.
02:06:01.000 She assumed her mannerisms.
02:06:03.000 I mean it's a phenomenal performance.
02:06:05.000 I mean you think about what she did to her body.
02:06:07.000 Right.
02:06:07.000 To be like a top of the food chain gorgeous woman.
02:06:12.000 Right.
02:06:12.000 And eat yourself into this horrible place.
02:06:15.000 And then look at what she looked like when she won the Academy Award for it.
02:06:18.000 I mean that is fucking wild.
02:06:19.000 And then she gets herself back into shape.
02:06:22.000 That's incredible.
02:06:24.000 I mean, people don't know how fucking hard that is to do.
02:06:26.000 And to do that for a movie, and to nail, like, one of the only documented female serial killers.
02:06:34.000 Woo!
02:06:35.000 She killed it.
02:06:35.000 She killed it.
02:06:36.000 She killed it.
02:06:37.000 She killed it.
02:06:38.000 You gotta be a special kind of crazy to be that kid.
02:06:39.000 J-Lo should gain fucking 100 pounds to become Griselda Blanco.
02:06:43.000 Well, she's never gonna do that.
02:06:45.000 This is an article from 2020, so I don't know.
02:06:46.000 Yeah.
02:06:47.000 She will take on a Columbia droid Griselda Blanco in the upcoming film.
02:06:52.000 No way, man.
02:06:53.000 Look how hot she is.
02:06:54.000 Get out of here.
02:06:55.000 That's crazy.
02:06:56.000 That's crazy.
02:06:57.000 That doesn't make sense.
02:06:59.000 Historically, that's not accurate.
02:07:00.000 It's like having a Chinese guy play Castro.
02:07:02.000 That's right.
02:07:03.000 There's no reason for this.
02:07:04.000 Why are you doing this?
02:07:05.000 Those are two very different things.
02:07:07.000 What she is is smoking hot fucking dime.
02:07:12.000 Yeah, you can't have that as Griselda Blanco.
02:07:17.000 I don't know.
02:07:18.000 Maybe she'll kill it.
02:07:19.000 Maybe it'll be great, but it's not the same story.
02:07:22.000 It's Hollywood.
02:07:22.000 They'll figure it out.
02:07:23.000 Part of the story was there was a guy who, you see there's this one dude who's got his arm around her.
02:07:28.000 That was her boyfriend.
02:07:30.000 And she had found out that he was fucking around on her.
02:07:33.000 That was like part of the story.
02:07:36.000 What did she do to him?
02:07:37.000 I forget what she did, but she found out he was fucking around on him.
02:07:42.000 I'm sure it wasn't good.
02:07:44.000 I don't remember what she did to him.
02:07:47.000 Yeah.
02:07:47.000 I don't remember if she took him back or killed the girls.
02:07:51.000 Yeah.
02:07:52.000 I don't remember what she did.
02:07:53.000 Crazy.
02:07:54.000 But she's a scary lady.
02:07:55.000 I gotta re-watch that, the cocaine cowboy stuff.
02:07:57.000 It's always good to re-watch that.
02:07:59.000 Yeah.
02:07:59.000 It's fantastic.
02:08:01.000 Billy Corwin killed it.
02:08:03.000 She supposedly killed her three husbands.
02:08:05.000 Oh, Jesus Christ!
02:08:06.000 Jesus Christ, bro!
02:08:08.000 She killed three of her husbands.
02:08:09.000 Oh!
02:08:11.000 That lady's so evil.
02:08:12.000 You can't just have...
02:08:13.000 I mean, she was killing them.
02:08:14.000 Who killed her?
02:08:15.000 I don't know.
02:08:16.000 Some rival.
02:08:17.000 Recently, right?
02:08:18.000 No, it was 2012. Oh, it was?
02:08:20.000 Unrecent, but...
02:08:21.000 Yeah, I guess.
02:08:22.000 Isn't that wild?
02:08:23.000 That was 10 years ago.
02:08:24.000 How's that real?
02:08:25.000 2012 was 10 years ago.
02:08:28.000 I mean, that's insane.
02:08:30.000 That's hard to wrap your head around.
02:08:31.000 I know it makes sense on paper, but what the fuck?
02:08:36.000 Yeah, it's interesting that she rose to the top and just stayed there.
02:08:42.000 Dude, she was ruthless.
02:08:45.000 She was fucking ruthless.
02:08:47.000 When you talk to the hitmen that were told to carry out certain crimes and what she told them to do.
02:08:52.000 She was bisexual, said to have orgies with strippers and later have them executed for her own amusement.
02:08:59.000 Holy shit.
02:09:01.000 Yeah.
02:09:02.000 Holy shit.
02:09:02.000 Imagine making some girl eat your pussy and then shooting her in the head.
02:09:06.000 Jesus Christ.
02:09:08.000 Or a guy.
02:09:08.000 She forced men to have sex with her by gunpoint.
02:09:11.000 She started using her own products.
02:09:13.000 She became crazier and crazier.
02:09:14.000 She reportedly gained a lot of weight and started making men and women have sex with her at gunpoint.
02:09:20.000 Yeah!
02:09:24.000 How am I going to believe that with J.Lo?
02:09:28.000 Yeah, you cannot believe it with J.Lo.
02:09:30.000 I am not going to believe that J.Lo is having to force a man at gunpoint to have sex with him.
02:09:35.000 That makes no sense.
02:09:35.000 It makes zero sense.
02:09:36.000 Or a woman, even.
02:09:37.000 No, it's crazy.
02:09:38.000 It doesn't make any sense.
02:09:39.000 It makes zero sense.
02:09:40.000 She's too hot.
02:09:41.000 That's crazy.
02:09:41.000 I didn't realize she was getting that nuts.
02:09:43.000 Yeah, that is amazing.
02:09:45.000 What an amazing quote.
02:09:46.000 How long did she live?
02:09:48.000 How come there's no, like, cry from the, uh, you know, women who look like Gisele de Blanco?
02:09:54.000 Right.
02:09:54.000 Or angry.
02:09:55.000 Yeah.
02:09:55.000 No.
02:09:56.000 Certain people liked her get away with it.
02:09:58.000 Supposedly worth two billion when she died.
02:10:01.000 Holy shit.
02:10:02.000 I wonder who gets that money.
02:10:02.000 She was worth two billion dollars when she died?
02:10:05.000 Holy shit, dude.
02:10:07.000 Fuck.
02:10:07.000 How old was she when she died?
02:10:10.000 Uh...
02:10:10.000 I'm wondering who gets that money.
02:10:15.000 If anybody.
02:10:16.000 How old do you think she was when she died?
02:10:19.000 70?
02:10:20.000 68?
02:10:22.000 69. 69. Hell of a run.
02:10:24.000 Hell of a run!
02:10:25.000 Hell of a run.
02:10:26.000 Two Billy in the bank.
02:10:28.000 What else do you want?
02:10:29.000 Lots of exes on your gun.
02:10:30.000 Couple of dead strippers in the driveway.
02:10:33.000 Jesus Christ.
02:10:34.000 You know?
02:10:35.000 Fucking people at gunpoint.
02:10:37.000 I mean, that's an incredible run for an evil person.
02:10:39.000 Oh, of course.
02:10:41.000 It's incredible.
02:10:42.000 She did it.
02:10:43.000 I mean, she made it to the finish line.
02:10:44.000 She did it big.
02:10:46.000 And she went out the way she's supposed to go.
02:10:48.000 She's actually kind of a hero in a weird way of thinking about it.
02:10:51.000 What way is that?
02:10:53.000 The way that how many women occupied that position, right?
02:10:58.000 Right.
02:10:58.000 Women of color.
02:11:00.000 Fat women.
02:11:02.000 Big.
02:11:02.000 This is huge.
02:11:05.000 It's a big deal.
02:11:07.000 It's a big deal.
02:11:08.000 She certainly, when it comes to evil people that have killed a lot of folks and got away with it, she fucking did it right.
02:11:16.000 She did it right.
02:11:17.000 If you want to talk about it that way.
02:11:18.000 Ruthless.
02:11:19.000 Yeah.
02:11:20.000 It's crazy that someone could do that, that they could rise that far.
02:11:23.000 How she got into jail, too, is a little interesting.
02:11:25.000 I don't know all the details on this.
02:11:26.000 I'm just trying to uncover.
02:11:28.000 But Blanco caught a lucky break.
02:11:29.000 She was only convicted on three counts of murder.
02:11:31.000 The DEA suspected that she was involved in over 40. But the Miami-Dade District Attorney's Office became embroiled in a scandal involving three secretaries in the office and one of Blanco's top lieutenants.
02:11:43.000 So instead of handing her a death sentence, the prosecutor handed in his resignation, and Blanco cut a deal to serve three concurrent 20-year sentences.
02:11:54.000 After serving her sentence, she was deported back to Columbia in 2004, where she spent the rest of her days.
02:11:59.000 She only did like six years.
02:12:01.000 Wow.
02:12:01.000 It was in like 98 when she was going in, and then they said she was out by 2004, last seen in 2007, and killed in 2012. So it's interesting here, it's some kind of poetic justice that she met in and that she delivered to so many others, said Bruce Bagley, a professor.
02:12:18.000 She died by the motorcycle drive-by killing.
02:12:24.000 Wow.
02:12:25.000 Interesting.
02:12:25.000 But a person like that, when they finally do get it, it's probably like a relief.
02:12:29.000 Oh, yeah.
02:12:30.000 Well, what else is she going to do?
02:12:32.000 But she had to know it was coming.
02:12:33.000 She knew it was coming.
02:12:34.000 She killed so many fucking people.
02:12:36.000 The last thought in her head was like, oh, that thing that I did.
02:12:39.000 I invented that.
02:12:40.000 I invented that.
02:12:41.000 The chickens come home to roost.
02:12:43.000 Great strategy.
02:12:44.000 Yeah.
02:12:47.000 That's the history of that part of this country, and that was entirely funded by the drug war.
02:12:54.000 The same thing we're talking about.
02:12:55.000 The reason why there's so much money for criminals is because drugs are illegal.
02:13:01.000 That's right.
02:13:02.000 I don't know what the solution, though, is.
02:13:04.000 Like I said before, honestly, I don't know if legalization would be a giant disaster, and I assume that it would be.
02:13:11.000 I assume if they just unregulated...
02:13:14.000 Everything.
02:13:15.000 Everything.
02:13:16.000 It's a problem.
02:13:16.000 It's a problem.
02:13:17.000 Right.
02:13:17.000 And, like, if you could just sell it anywhere, if we don't...
02:13:21.000 I mean, what does that look like?
02:13:23.000 Does that look like drugstores?
02:13:25.000 Does it look like a prescription?
02:13:26.000 Does that look like you could just buy it at 7-Eleven?
02:13:30.000 What does that look like?
02:13:31.000 Because you can go to...
02:13:32.000 Doesn't 7-Eleven sell booze?
02:13:35.000 Yes, but I think what it would look like is approved vendors in certain areas, just like liquor stores and other things, would have to have some type of distance from school or whatever.
02:13:45.000 But yeah, to your point, I think it is chaotic and the potential for a real problem is great.
02:13:55.000 There's a lot of people that don't even support the idea that the government should control alcohol.
02:14:00.000 They're like, why are you controlling this?
02:14:01.000 Why do you have any say in this at all?
02:14:05.000 As long as we're not selling something that's a fraud, why are there so many hoops that someone has to jump through to sell alcohol?
02:14:14.000 Why do I have to get your approval?
02:14:16.000 Isn't it legal?
02:14:17.000 If it's legal, why can't everybody sell alcohol?
02:14:18.000 Why can't you just open up Tim Dillon's beer and just start selling beer?
02:14:23.000 Why do I need to go through a bunch of hoops and shit?
02:14:25.000 Do you want to make sure that I'm doing it right?
02:14:26.000 Is that what it is?
02:14:27.000 Or do you just want a piece of the pie?
02:14:29.000 They want a piece of the action.
02:14:30.000 They want a piece of the pie.
02:14:32.000 Dillon, you want to do fucking business in this town?
02:14:34.000 That's also part of why things are the way they are.
02:14:40.000 You know, life is too short in many cases.
02:14:45.000 There's so much of this that just, it's not changing in our run.
02:14:51.000 What do you think about the government installing 87,000 new IRS agents?
02:14:55.000 Oh, well, I mean, you know, what are you going to do?
02:15:00.000 You know?
02:15:01.000 You got to pay your taxes.
02:15:02.000 I pay, you know?
02:15:03.000 I pay, too.
02:15:04.000 Well, pay your taxes.
02:15:05.000 But it's just like, isn't that a lot of money?
02:15:08.000 They need money.
02:15:09.000 Don't we?
02:15:10.000 They need money.
02:15:10.000 So they're going to hunt.
02:15:11.000 They're going to come after everybody.
02:15:13.000 And you know, there's a lot of money that's moved offshore.
02:15:16.000 Is that what they're going to chase?
02:15:17.000 Do you think they're going to chase that?
02:15:18.000 Or do you think they're going to chase middle class?
02:15:20.000 They're going to chase somebody sending someone on Venmo.
02:15:22.000 Right.
02:15:23.000 They're not going to chase these billionaires because they know the tax loopholes better than anyone.
02:15:27.000 The flat tax always made a lot of sense to me.
02:15:29.000 25% of everything move on.
02:15:32.000 That always made a lot of sense.
02:15:33.000 Whether you make 20 grand a year or 20 million, 25% flat tax or something like that, 20%, whatever it is, 20%, whatever it is, flat tax.
02:15:42.000 But then you go, okay, if you do that, then what happens to all these accountants and the big accounting firms and all that whole entire sector of the economy that's run based on how complicated our tax code is?
02:15:53.000 And then you start to realize, oh shit, like Thomas Sowell said, there's really no solutions, there's only trade-offs.
02:16:00.000 Because no matter what you do, you're going to create other problems by doing it.
02:16:05.000 Right.
02:16:07.000 Right.
02:16:07.000 You're going to lay off all these people whose entire career is spent on analyzing this arcane and very complex tax code.
02:16:14.000 They're not going to have a...
02:16:15.000 Now, that doesn't mean that the ends don't justify the means or that it isn't a greater benefit, but all of these things become kind of a racket.
02:16:24.000 It's just a racket.
02:16:25.000 And if you come in and get rid of the racket, people are going to go, hey man, what the fuck?
02:16:29.000 It's why the entertainment business, it's like a racket.
02:16:32.000 Why are there like when you go to a movie set, there's like 30 people standing around doing nothing?
02:16:36.000 It's a racket.
02:16:38.000 All of those people have jobs that are supposedly necessary.
02:16:40.000 But now you can take a phone and film something and have more people see it than a television show that they put millions and millions of dollars into.
02:16:49.000 But it's just a racket.
02:16:51.000 If they just did a 25% flat tax, how much money would they lose?
02:16:57.000 Because 25% seems like a lot.
02:16:59.000 Okay, like sales tax, there's so many different taxes, right?
02:17:04.000 I mean on income.
02:17:06.000 Right, but if someone's just spending, if the only tax you had is 25% of your income, that's it.
02:17:13.000 Well, no, there'd be sales, there'd be other taxes.
02:17:15.000 I just mean on your income.
02:17:16.000 Why are sales taxes a thing?
02:17:20.000 Explain that.
02:17:21.000 If the corporation is paying taxes on the money that they make, and you're paying taxes on the money that you spend, why is there an additional tax whenever you want to use your money?
02:17:29.000 Oh, it's a racket.
02:17:30.000 And it's a lot of money.
02:17:32.000 It's a goddamn racket.
02:17:32.000 It's not a small amount of money.
02:17:34.000 Oh, no.
02:17:34.000 What is sales tax?
02:17:36.000 It's just criminal.
02:17:37.000 It's criminal activity.
02:17:38.000 It's a racket.
02:17:39.000 What's sales tax here in Texas?
02:17:41.000 8%?
02:17:42.000 Texas at least doesn't have state tax.
02:17:44.000 6.25, but it depends on exactly what it is.
02:17:47.000 6.25.
02:17:48.000 Yeah, Texas is good.
02:17:49.000 It doesn't have a state income.
02:17:50.000 So what's the worst state in terms of state income tax?
02:17:53.000 New York and California are both very bad.
02:17:56.000 But I mean, I meant sales tax.
02:17:57.000 I'm sorry.
02:17:58.000 I don't know.
02:17:59.000 Do you know, Jamie?
02:18:00.000 Yeah, I'm looking right now.
02:18:02.000 California.
02:18:03.000 Well, see, it depends on what it is.
02:18:04.000 Right now, I'm looking at math that says Texas is 8.19%.
02:18:07.000 That sucks.
02:18:09.000 That's a combined state.
02:18:10.000 Well, Texas has got to run their state, so if they don't have income, if they don't have an income tax, they've got to have high property taxes.
02:18:15.000 But what I'm saying is, wouldn't it be super simple if it was only you get taxed on income?
02:18:22.000 Yeah, sure.
02:18:23.000 Because the money's going to go to people anyway.
02:18:27.000 The money is going to go to taxes anyway.
02:18:29.000 Because that money is like, if you're making money, and you're paying taxes on your money, and then you're spending that money, and the person who earns that money is also paying taxes, why is there tax in the exchange?
02:18:41.000 I think that Portland, it looks like, doesn't have one.
02:18:44.000 Oregon.
02:18:44.000 It's a county thing, too, also.
02:18:48.000 Oregon doesn't have it, so we're going to Portland.
02:18:50.000 So two places don't have sales tax.
02:18:52.000 Let's move to Portland.
02:18:55.000 Is that Wyoming?
02:18:57.000 Montana.
02:18:57.000 It's Montana?
02:18:58.000 Montana doesn't have sales tax?
02:19:00.000 There's a lot of people there to collect from.
02:19:01.000 There's more people now because of Yellowstone.
02:19:03.000 Do you think you'll do a big ranch eventually?
02:19:05.000 Sometime, yeah.
02:19:06.000 Like a big Wyoming type of ranch?
02:19:08.000 I might have to.
02:19:08.000 That might be amazing.
02:19:09.000 That might be the move.
02:19:10.000 Pretty sick.
02:19:11.000 I'm gonna need my own water.
02:19:13.000 Like a Montana, like a crazy ranch.
02:19:15.000 You see the show Yellowstone?
02:19:16.000 Yeah, I love it.
02:19:17.000 It was good till like season three.
02:19:19.000 Oh, okay.
02:19:19.000 I watched season four on a plane and it was fine.
02:19:22.000 Yeah, maybe season four.
02:19:24.000 One of the seasons.
02:19:25.000 It drops off.
02:19:26.000 It was like an episode where you're like, who wrote this?
02:19:29.000 What was the episode?
02:19:30.000 I forgot.
02:19:31.000 It's just...
02:19:32.000 Crazy.
02:19:33.000 I don't want to criticize the show because I like it.
02:19:35.000 It's a fun show, but I think that seeing you do a thing like that would be cool.
02:19:40.000 I almost think of buying property out there.
02:19:42.000 It's going up in value intensely.
02:19:44.000 Well, people are trying to escape from urban environments when they realize that remote work was a possibility.
02:19:49.000 That's right.
02:19:50.000 That's the thing that's interesting to me, where these corporations are pushing back against remote work.
02:19:57.000 Did you guys operate just fine while everybody was working at home?
02:20:00.000 Why do you want people back in the office?
02:20:02.000 Yeah, I don't know why that is.
02:20:03.000 I would think that because they could save money on real estate, they wouldn't.
02:20:06.000 Want people back.
02:20:07.000 I don't know.
02:20:08.000 I think a little bit of it is that to control employees better, you want to be around them.
02:20:15.000 That's right.
02:20:15.000 Like, all of the weird office politics evaporate.
02:20:20.000 They go away.
02:20:21.000 They go away if it's a Zoom thing.
02:20:23.000 That's right.
02:20:23.000 You might be annoyed by that person when you have to interact with them.
02:20:26.000 Like, oh, it's him again.
02:20:28.000 Right.
02:20:28.000 But you're not around them all day.
02:20:30.000 Strange.
02:20:31.000 You're at home.
02:20:32.000 It's strange that they want people back.
02:20:33.000 You're at home.
02:20:34.000 Any time you do, you just get up and do whatever you want.
02:20:37.000 And then they're developing apps that people are installing on their computer and they're getting busted for it.
02:20:44.000 Because they have these apps that move the cursor around.
02:20:48.000 Because these people are tracking your keys and making sure you work in some organizations if you're working remotely.
02:20:54.000 It's crazy.
02:20:55.000 It's not as simple as, oh, I'll get all my work done on my own time at home.
02:21:00.000 No.
02:21:01.000 They want you in front of your computer, and they want to make sure you're using your computer.
02:21:05.000 So people are using these apps that move your key around.
02:21:10.000 Jeez!
02:21:11.000 They move your cursor around and click on things.
02:21:13.000 To make sure that you're working.
02:21:15.000 I think it's a cursor.
02:21:15.000 All I have to do is move your cursor.
02:21:17.000 See if you can find that.
02:21:19.000 Is that it?
02:21:20.000 No, no, I'm sorry.
02:21:21.000 You're right.
02:21:21.000 Oh, is it?
02:21:22.000 What is it?
02:21:22.000 It's a cursor?
02:21:23.000 Yeah, it's like this little mouse thing that just drags your mouse around.
02:21:25.000 So it just shows to the person that is tracking you that you're actually sitting at your desk moving stuff around.
02:21:31.000 That's crazy.
02:21:32.000 That makes no sense.
02:21:34.000 But yeah, I guess they're just like people are working an hour a day, and we don't want to pay them.
02:21:39.000 I think that's exactly what's happening.
02:21:41.000 But I think there's a lot of people that are in offices that are fucking off and playing Wordle.
02:21:45.000 Oh, yeah!
02:21:46.000 It's all day long.
02:21:46.000 But at least they're fucking off in front of us.
02:21:48.000 Yeah, because if you're sitting- That's why you have a manager.
02:21:51.000 Then what do you do with the manager?
02:21:52.000 Oh, yeah.
02:21:52.000 Right.
02:21:53.000 So it's like, this is part of the thing.
02:21:55.000 It's like, get rid of something, then what do you do with all these people whose job is to enforce the rules.
02:22:02.000 What do you do with that?
02:22:03.000 In the old days, the manager used to always try to bang a secretary.
02:22:06.000 Yeah.
02:22:06.000 It's normal.
02:22:07.000 Yeah.
02:22:07.000 That's what they did.
02:22:08.000 Right.
02:22:09.000 Right?
02:22:09.000 That's what they did.
02:22:10.000 That's why the managers were there.
02:22:11.000 They all did it.
02:22:12.000 And now you can't do it anymore.
02:22:14.000 Can't do it.
02:22:15.000 It's interesting, right?
02:22:16.000 It's very interesting.
02:22:17.000 That whole environment, that whole work.
02:22:18.000 I mean, it's the fucking oldest trope ever.
02:22:21.000 Yeah.
02:22:22.000 The boss bangs his secretary.
02:22:25.000 How many times have you heard that one?
02:22:26.000 It's over now.
02:22:27.000 Yeah.
02:22:27.000 Well, thank God this worked because I don't know what- Thank God we don't have to work in that environment because it's like the things we would say, we would just- I just am thankful that I don't have to walk into an office and have to- Participate in that because I did it for years,
02:22:45.000 but like that fake phony bullshit culture of like, hello and good to see you.
02:22:51.000 It's so bad for your head.
02:22:52.000 Yeah.
02:22:52.000 You have to do it all day long.
02:22:54.000 You're not free until you get out of there.
02:22:56.000 And it really just is exhausting to do and I'm happy I don't have to do that.
02:23:02.000 Oh, thank God.
02:23:03.000 Yeah.
02:23:04.000 You went through it.
02:23:05.000 I unfortunately never had an office job.
02:23:08.000 I had a lot of shitty jobs, but there were never any office jobs.
02:23:10.000 I went through it.
02:23:11.000 I went through the fake, nice, hi, hey.
02:23:15.000 Dude.
02:23:16.000 I went through people pulling you aside, telling you all their problems with another person.
02:23:20.000 You have nothing to do with it.
02:23:22.000 And they're like, you know, this is how Chuck fucked me on this.
02:23:25.000 He promised me this.
02:23:26.000 I didn't get it.
02:23:27.000 And you're standing there going, oh yeah, that's unfortunate.
02:23:30.000 And you have nothing to do with any of it.
02:23:34.000 That's what a lot of it is.
02:23:35.000 You're just wasting time getting up.
02:23:36.000 I'll go to the bathroom.
02:23:37.000 You take a loop around the aisle.
02:23:38.000 You walk around the office one way.
02:23:40.000 I'll take the long way because you don't have anything to do.
02:23:42.000 You got to look busy.
02:23:43.000 Taking files out of your desk.
02:23:45.000 Oh, let me call these people.
02:23:47.000 A lot of it's looking busy.
02:23:49.000 A lot of it's fucking, oh, lunch.
02:23:52.000 Finally, the one part of the day I can fucking leave.
02:23:54.000 Yeah.
02:23:55.000 You know?
02:23:55.000 Oh, I smoke a cigarette in a parking lot and feel like a human being and then you have to go back and you're like, fuck, we're back, you know?
02:24:02.000 It's a prison for people.
02:24:03.000 It is.
02:24:04.000 That's what it is.
02:24:04.000 It's a prison.
02:24:05.000 It's a prison.
02:24:05.000 And people get stuck in it and they don't know what the fuck to do and they can't get out of it because now they bought a bunch of shit.
02:24:10.000 And the game for most people is to make your life as good as you can outside of there so that you go, fuck it.
02:24:16.000 Like, I have a great family and this is for them.
02:24:20.000 Yeah.
02:24:20.000 Providing for them, and I go on vacation, and we enjoy it, and I make my house nice, and I enjoy being in my house.
02:24:26.000 Because most people, when you go into an environment like that, you're losing all sense of who you are.
02:24:34.000 You have to mold into this dumb corporate...
02:24:37.000 Corporations are always kind of...
02:24:41.000 Corralling you into these things and like, you know, that's why they do all the corporate events.
02:24:45.000 It's so unnatural.
02:24:47.000 So unnatural for people to not just interact that way and be stuck inside all day like that, but also to like exist in this fucking culture where everybody's full of shit all day agreeing that they're all full of shit.
02:24:59.000 Oh, yeah, and it's just part of a part of what it is and like I did it for a while, but I was in a sales office.
02:25:05.000 We had a little more freedom, but it's still the same type of office where a lot of it is based on these weird relationships where you're kind of like, okay, we're here.
02:25:18.000 Yeah.
02:25:19.000 We're all just here and we all have to find something about each other we can tolerate.
02:25:23.000 Yeah, and sometimes it's just not gonna happen.
02:25:27.000 Yeah.
02:25:27.000 Sometimes you're stuck with people day in day out.
02:25:30.000 That's right.
02:25:30.000 That annoy the fuck out of you.
02:25:32.000 Yeah.
02:25:32.000 Want you to believe their politics, want you to listen to their fucking justifications for things.
02:25:37.000 That's right.
02:25:40.000 Thank God.
02:25:41.000 Thank God we don't have to do that.
02:25:43.000 Thank God.
02:25:43.000 Thank God.
02:25:44.000 But I knew I never could.
02:25:45.000 I always thought I was destined to be a fucking loser because I couldn't keep a job.
02:25:50.000 I had zero ambition to have a job in an office somewhere.
02:25:54.000 Well, you wanted to escape, as Andrew Tate would say, to escape the matrix.
02:25:58.000 You know?
02:25:59.000 You did it.
02:26:00.000 If you can do it, you can do it.
02:26:02.000 Not everyone can do it.
02:26:03.000 Yeah, but I didn't think I was doing it.
02:26:05.000 That's my point is that I wasn't doing it saying I'm escaping the matrix.
02:26:08.000 I was thinking I'm such a fucking loser.
02:26:10.000 I can't discipline myself enough to have a job like all these other people who I'm seeing succeeding.
02:26:17.000 I can't do it.
02:26:18.000 Well, there's a real value now to being...
02:26:23.000 For the vast majority of my childhood, the value was in being a conformist to conforming.
02:26:30.000 And that was where the money was, and that was where the security was, and that's where your good social life was.
02:26:36.000 Now...
02:26:38.000 Being a non-conformist and going out and doing your own thing and being a self-starter and being independent and being able to collaborate with people you want, like that, the value now is there.
02:26:49.000 It's not going into these faceless institutions where you get lost in them.
02:26:54.000 It's being your own thing, no matter what you do.
02:26:57.000 It's being your own thing.
02:26:58.000 That's a massive change from when I grew up and everything was brand names and the right school and the right neighborhood and the right country club or the right whatever.
02:27:08.000 Now, being independent and creating your own world is certainly, you know, desirable, much more so than falling into like some nameless corporation and becoming like a number.
02:27:23.000 Yeah.
02:27:24.000 It's just people have this path that's carved in front of them by their father and their uncles and all these other people that are around them that have done reasonably well for themselves.
02:27:34.000 Yeah.
02:27:34.000 And they think this is the only route.
02:27:36.000 And if you don't follow that route, your parents will get mad at you.
02:27:38.000 But I think there's a lot of different routes out there now.
02:27:42.000 There is.
02:27:45.000 There's a lot of people doing something they didn't want to do, and it got taken away from them.
02:27:48.000 That's right.
02:27:48.000 And then they realized, oh my god, I was spending all my time doing something I didn't want to do, and now it's gone through no fault of my own.
02:27:55.000 And that's why service sucks now.
02:27:56.000 You call to get room service, they're not there for two hours, someone's writing a play.
02:28:00.000 It's like, hey, let's fucking get the mozzarella sticks, cut it out.
02:28:05.000 Not everyone is meant to do...
02:28:07.000 Some people, it does make more sense to Conform because it's who they are and their greatest joys in life are not monetizable, right?
02:28:18.000 So a lot of people go, I really enjoy things I can't make money off of.
02:28:22.000 So they go, I got to go do something I can make money off of so that I can go enjoy those other things where I can't make money.
02:28:29.000 There's nothing wrong with that either.
02:28:30.000 But now more and more, I think people are going, can I make money off what I enjoy doing?
02:28:36.000 Is there an audience?
02:28:37.000 Is there a market?
02:28:39.000 Do people want to buy something that I can...
02:28:41.000 Can I make money off what I enjoy?
02:28:44.000 Yeah.
02:28:44.000 I think that's happening more and more.
02:28:47.000 And that's a good thing.
02:28:48.000 It's like, not all jobs are bad either.
02:28:50.000 There's a lot of people that have jobs they really enjoy.
02:28:52.000 They have great people they work with.
02:28:53.000 They're having a great time.
02:28:54.000 But the office thing always scared the shit out of me.
02:28:58.000 Being trapped in this fucking cubicle.
02:29:00.000 Being told what you can and can't do.
02:29:03.000 Well, you're a part of a...
02:29:05.000 You're part of this organism that everyone's on the same page.
02:29:12.000 It's kind of like North Korea.
02:29:13.000 You all are like, this is the way we do things.
02:29:16.000 This is our way.
02:29:18.000 The other ways are wrong.
02:29:19.000 This is the way we treat each other.
02:29:21.000 This is the way we interact.
02:29:23.000 The other ways are wrong.
02:29:24.000 If you joke around a certain way, that is wrong.
02:29:27.000 You were to do...
02:29:28.000 There's all this approved corporate humor where the VP will get up and say something really dumb and you're at the conference and you have to go, oh, he's fucking hilarious.
02:29:38.000 But he's not.
02:29:39.000 And everyone knows he's not.
02:29:40.000 But it's just, it is that type of...
02:29:44.000 Totalitarian structure that some people can really thrive in and then work their way up.
02:29:49.000 And that's a lot of the thing with comedy now is a lot of people that have writer's jobs or work in the business.
02:29:52.000 A lot of them are very good at office politics and a lot of them are very good at maneuvering.
02:29:56.000 And a lot of the really funny people who are fucking lunatics who aren't good at any of that shit are shut out or they're not able to, you know, some of the funniest people you'll meet will never have careers because they just can't.
02:30:09.000 For whatever reason, figure out a way to approach it in a professional manner.
02:30:15.000 But they're fucking hilarious.
02:30:16.000 Some of the funniest people that I meet or I've met or I've seen at open mics, I'm just like, that guy's genuinely kind of crazy.
02:30:24.000 But he's just a little too crazy.
02:30:26.000 You've got to be in the zone of crazy where you go, oh, that still can treat this like a job.
02:30:32.000 And some people are just a little...
02:30:35.000 Out there where they can't do it.
02:30:38.000 Well, some people just don't have a good grip on reality.
02:30:41.000 That's right.
02:30:42.000 And they say funny things, but then everything else is chaos.
02:30:46.000 Everything else is chaos, and everything can't be chaos.
02:30:49.000 Sometimes you just have a sense of things that are funny, and you know how to do it, and you have enough crazy to be able to go up there and deliver it correctly.
02:30:57.000 Yeah, or you can work and treat people decently, and you're not a lunatic who will start problems.
02:31:04.000 There's all these interpersonal...
02:31:06.000 You've got to have business relationships with people, and they have to be good.
02:31:10.000 Yeah, they have to be good.
02:31:11.000 You know?
02:31:13.000 It's...
02:31:13.000 I mean, imagine being a manager of a fucking office and then imagine everybody just working from home now.
02:31:19.000 Right.
02:31:20.000 And you have to monitor their keystrokes and make sure that they're moving their cursor around.
02:31:24.000 I guess you want them back in.
02:31:26.000 You want them under that boot.
02:31:27.000 So that must mean that they have access to what websites they use and shit on their company computer.
02:31:33.000 Oh, yeah.
02:31:33.000 It must be, right?
02:31:34.000 Oh, yeah.
02:31:35.000 Because the thing was like, this woman got in trouble because she installed it on a computer that was a work computer.
02:31:41.000 Right.
02:31:41.000 And that's how they figured it out.
02:31:42.000 Yeah.
02:31:43.000 Well, it's weird.
02:31:44.000 These are the challenges going forward because I think a lot more of the workforce will probably work remotely for a portion of the week.
02:31:53.000 But why don't they just give you a workload and then you do it whenever the fuck you want when you're home?
02:31:59.000 Wouldn't that be better?
02:32:00.000 People, I guess.
02:32:01.000 I don't know what the job is, so maybe I'm wrong.
02:32:03.000 Maybe it doesn't work that way.
02:32:04.000 Maybe you're monitoring things, so you have a specific time you're supposed to be working on projects that are happening in real time.
02:32:09.000 Are people more productive at home?
02:32:10.000 That's the real question.
02:32:11.000 And I don't know.
02:32:12.000 Well, it's definitely productive in that you don't have to get in traffic.
02:32:16.000 It's definitely productive, like all that time.
02:32:18.000 But you're a very evolved person.
02:32:21.000 You're thinking of it like most people, if they're not told to put on clothes or to do, they won't do it.
02:32:28.000 So a lot of people just need that push to just actually...
02:32:33.000 I don't know how productive it is.
02:32:35.000 If you're sitting on your couch, you don't have to go anywhere.
02:32:38.000 I mean, some people, these people that work at tech companies kind of know how to do it, but like, I don't know.
02:32:43.000 I think also for your social life, Just to get out of your house, to meet people, to function in society, there might be benefits to not working exclusively from your home.
02:32:58.000 Definitely benefits in isolation.
02:33:00.000 Also, some people live with roommates, and they're like, I want to get the fuck out of here.
02:33:04.000 Right.
02:33:05.000 So that's another problem, especially in cities like New York or San Fran or LA. Even Austin's not cheap.
02:33:10.000 Some people go, yeah, I live with two people.
02:33:12.000 I can't work, you know?
02:33:13.000 Right.
02:33:14.000 So now you're in your room.
02:33:16.000 So now it's not even your apartment, it's like you have to work from your room, so it's weird.
02:33:20.000 I didn't even consider that, but that is definitely a consideration, too.
02:33:23.000 That's right.
02:33:24.000 But also, some people just want a choice.
02:33:25.000 Like, just give me a workload.
02:33:27.000 Let me be able to do it at home.
02:33:28.000 Right.
02:33:29.000 But I get the idea of, like, if you've got employees that were shifty already, and then all of a sudden they're working from home, like, why isn't this project on my desk?
02:33:37.000 How many finish this?
02:33:38.000 All work essentially could be from home if you weren't in a customer service position where people were coming up to you.
02:33:45.000 If they were not in your physical presence, anything could be done from home.
02:33:48.000 The reality is, I don't know how...
02:33:51.000 Now, maybe there are studies that say it's more productive.
02:33:53.000 I don't know.
02:33:54.000 But if these companies want people to come back to commercial real estate that they're paying for, it's not because they're more productive.
02:34:00.000 They're probably saying, we want them back so that we can crack the whip.
02:34:05.000 Because otherwise they would just say fuck it.
02:34:07.000 We don't need this $50,000 a month lease on this office.
02:34:10.000 Fuck it.
02:34:11.000 That's the big one.
02:34:12.000 It's the bubble.
02:34:13.000 The big bubble.
02:34:14.000 I mean if you look around at how many places are for lease.
02:34:17.000 Oh tons.
02:34:18.000 Oh my god.
02:34:18.000 Commercial real estate.
02:34:19.000 So much.
02:34:20.000 It's everywhere.
02:34:20.000 It's all over the place.
02:34:22.000 And I think you think about how many restaurants and small shops went under during the pandemic.
02:34:27.000 Yeah.
02:34:28.000 It was a big fucking number.
02:34:29.000 So many.
02:34:29.000 All those places are available.
02:34:31.000 All of them.
02:34:33.000 I'm sure some of them have been taken up by new businesses.
02:34:36.000 There's a lot of people that are going to open, I think hopefully will eventually take advantage of that.
02:34:41.000 Do you think that people are going to learn their lesson from this, though, in terms of not locking down the economy again?
02:34:47.000 I don't think they'll lock it down again.
02:34:50.000 Here's what I don't think.
02:34:52.000 I don't think people learn lessons.
02:34:54.000 This is something I believe.
02:34:55.000 I don't believe that lessons are learned ever.
02:34:57.000 We have really short memories.
02:35:00.000 People will forget.
02:35:02.000 I don't know if we'll get another pandemic again that'll require the type of intense focus and energy.
02:35:09.000 We easily could, though.
02:35:10.000 We easily could.
02:35:11.000 We absolutely could.
02:35:13.000 But I think it'll go back.
02:35:14.000 Again, this became this weird political football kind of almost from the beginning.
02:35:18.000 It was not a mature country looking at this, going, what the fuck's going on?
02:35:22.000 It was a lot of people fighting for power, relevance, and there were a lot of people using all these things politically for their own purposes.
02:35:32.000 Will that stop?
02:35:33.000 I don't know.
02:35:34.000 That's a big and much larger question.
02:35:37.000 Like, will any...
02:35:39.000 Whether it's a pandemic or a war or anything, will there be any point in our country where we can look at a problem and not make it this political firestorm where there's winners and losers?
02:35:51.000 Will we ever be able to collectively evaluate a problem and tackle it?
02:35:58.000 Without retreating into these ideological camps, I don't know.
02:36:02.000 That would be the only way to get us out of this.
02:36:04.000 That's right.
02:36:04.000 If we ever realized that the problems that we have with issues are far smaller than the problems where we or the issues that we agree on.
02:36:13.000 Like everybody agrees we have to have less crime.
02:36:16.000 Everybody agrees that we have to have more education.
02:36:20.000 Everybody agrees that we have to have safer streets and safer cities.
02:36:24.000 Everybody agrees that.
02:36:25.000 That's right.
02:36:26.000 And the things that we disagree on, will people disagree on how to make those things a reality, though?
02:36:32.000 How do you have less crime?
02:36:33.000 Is it by letting people out of jail?
02:36:36.000 Us being divided helps.
02:36:38.000 It helps people who want to just continually operate in the system as it's constructed.
02:36:48.000 And whether that is The system of perpetual war or the system of the banking sector, the dominance of the financial sector, or the system is tech companies set up to have these political relationships,
02:37:04.000 how they're presently constituted.
02:37:06.000 People who are thriving in this system and using it to their ends do not want it changed.
02:37:12.000 And people hating each other helps them.
02:37:17.000 It definitely does.
02:37:18.000 Do you think that that's just human nature, and just doing it while this is happening, or do you think it's orchestrated?
02:37:24.000 This is the question, right?
02:37:26.000 Is the dissent, and is some of it...
02:37:28.000 We know it's manipulated by other countries.
02:37:30.000 We know that China does it.
02:37:32.000 We know that they have these huge Russian organizations that...
02:37:37.000 They're troll farms.
02:37:40.000 We know that that's going on.
02:37:42.000 The idea that we wouldn't do that to ourselves If we were trying to get people riled up about each other.
02:37:48.000 To an extent, it's probably an inherent flaw in democracy, but I'm glad I lived in one and I'm glad I lived in the time I did.
02:37:55.000 But I do think, you know, a democracy kind of descends probably into an oligarchy eventually.
02:38:00.000 The vast majority of the citizens go, I don't want the responsibility of citizenship.
02:38:04.000 So a few really highly motivated psychopaths go, we'll handle it.
02:38:08.000 We'll take it from here.
02:38:09.000 And then those people are fighting over their own interests.
02:38:13.000 Constantly?
02:38:13.000 Do you think it should be illegal to pretend to represent a human being when you're a corporation that is promoting your own needs?
02:38:25.000 So do you think that like a corporation that hires Whether it's a foreign corporation, let's say it's a foreign one, so it's not connected to us, that hires a company to propagandize about a specific political issue that's going to be a hot button target.
02:38:42.000 And they do it as a bunch of people that attack people and go after people with dissenting opinions and quote tweet them and attack them.
02:38:51.000 And you find out it's not even a real person.
02:38:52.000 Right.
02:38:53.000 That should be illegal.
02:38:54.000 That seems to me like if we're allowing that in this country.
02:38:58.000 Oh yeah.
02:38:58.000 But we'll continue to allow anyone with enough money.
02:39:03.000 But don't you think that that thing right there, just that, that's insidious.
02:39:07.000 Pretending you're a person for a specific propaganda game and having it like a thousand accounts and you're running it through computers and you've got people responding to things, you've got people that are just retweeting things and posting things and it's all just propaganda.
02:39:20.000 It's insane that the Congress, the Congress members who Went and started trading stocks based on the knowledge of how bad coronavirus was still have jobs, right?
02:39:29.000 All of this is kind of insane.
02:39:31.000 We're just at peak insanity here, and there's, you know, I mean...
02:39:36.000 Are we at the peak?
02:39:36.000 I don't know if we're at the peak, but we're close to it.
02:39:40.000 Like, I do believe with the way things are going, and you're looking at...
02:39:47.000 Some really crazy trends.
02:39:49.000 And I don't know when they come to a conclusion and if they do without something, you know, a war or some violent or whatever.
02:39:58.000 But like it is just, you know, we're living in a time now where we all know everything's fucked, but we're mostly powerless to change it.
02:40:06.000 And that's when societies start to decay past a point.
02:40:10.000 And everybody just kind of sits back and watches it like a show.
02:40:14.000 And it just descends into eventually something that becomes more and more unmanageable.
02:40:21.000 And then either a strongman dictator type comes in.
02:40:25.000 Or there's some massive war that resets things or there's some natural disaster.
02:40:29.000 But it feels like we're kind of at that point, you know?
02:40:32.000 That's why I'm glad we lived in the era that we lived.
02:40:35.000 And that's, we really should just be happy.
02:40:37.000 We should be really happy.
02:40:39.000 We should go, it's nice that we got the run we did because it's not getting better.
02:40:47.000 I mean, or maybe it will, and God bless.
02:40:51.000 When I was a kid, I remember reading about the fall of the Roman Empire and the fall of the Greek Empire, and then I was thinking about America.
02:40:59.000 And I was like, is this thing going to go away someday?
02:41:01.000 Right, right.
02:41:02.000 Is that possible?
02:41:03.000 Is it possible that this is just one...
02:41:05.000 I mean, we want to think it's fucking permanent, but I bet the people of Rome felt the same way.
02:41:10.000 Of course they can.
02:41:11.000 This is how it is.
02:41:12.000 This is how I live every day.
02:41:14.000 This is not going to change.
02:41:16.000 Right.
02:41:16.000 And Russians know.
02:41:18.000 They know.
02:41:18.000 They know.
02:41:19.000 They've been through it.
02:41:22.000 Our society will go down.
02:41:24.000 Nothing will ever be funnier.
02:41:27.000 America will come apart in one of the funniest ways.
02:41:31.000 All of these people, these grifters, everybody circling the wagons, the Caitlyn Jenners, the Donald Trumps.
02:41:36.000 It'll be funny.
02:41:38.000 You'll die laughing.
02:41:40.000 Literally, you'll die, but you will be laughing.
02:41:44.000 It will be the most absurd and insane thing.
02:41:47.000 It will be out of...
02:41:48.000 Fucking dystopian horror movie and it won't be funnier than America because we're a crazy country full of crazy people and everybody's just trying to suck the last few dollars out of this bloated pig corpse of an empire before the end.
02:42:11.000 And I'm no different.
02:42:13.000 Watch my special and subscribe to my podcast.
02:42:15.000 What am I going to fucking sit here?
02:42:17.000 What am I going to go preach on a fucking mountain?
02:42:19.000 We got to make a little money here.
02:42:20.000 But make no mistake, I mean, if I'm wrong, and I'd love to be wrong, but if your attitude or your idea is that the population is going to get smarter, healthier, and more adept at problem solving, you're on fucking crack.
02:42:42.000 Yeah.
02:42:43.000 Yeah, probably.
02:42:44.000 You're probably right.
02:42:45.000 Yeah.
02:42:47.000 Well, what happens next?
02:42:48.000 Do you think we ever descend into some sort of CCP-controlled world, like that kind of totalitarian government?
02:42:57.000 Do you think it's possible that through technology and just through people just falling apart, losing their fucking minds, thinking it's the right thing to do- I think what happens next is we'll just have these giant oscillating swings between right and left,
02:43:13.000 and then I think eventually it'll get to a point where large areas in the country are unlivable for a myriad of reasons, perhaps crime or homelessness, climate, whatever.
02:43:27.000 Very Well-off or well-connected people will have these kind of enclaves.
02:43:33.000 This is already happening.
02:43:34.000 And then there'll be a fight to be in one of those two groups.
02:43:38.000 And then eventually a dictator, a strong mess, somewhere down the line, some man or woman will come in and go, this system's fucked.
02:43:48.000 I am going to run things, and they will run things in a way, and it probably won't be for the best, but the system will collapse.
02:44:00.000 But I don't know if we'll see it, but it will collapse.
02:44:05.000 There's no way it doesn't.
02:44:07.000 It will collapse to a degree.
02:44:08.000 And someone will come in and go, yeah, these elections are all fake and it doesn't matter anyway.
02:44:12.000 Why do you fuckers need to vote?
02:44:14.000 Here's a coupon for a chicken sandwich.
02:44:16.000 And people go, I like chicken.
02:44:18.000 And then, you know, people just go, fuck it.
02:44:20.000 They don't care.
02:44:21.000 And then you go, there'll be Netflix.
02:44:23.000 And there'll be dominoes and you'll sit in your house and they'll say, well, you can't drive today because of the climate.
02:44:28.000 And people go, yeah, it's Tuesday.
02:44:30.000 Can't get in my car because of climate.
02:44:32.000 And you'll sit there and they'll give you, they'll feed you poison and you'll watch TV. And a few people will riot, but very few because most people will be pacified by the goodies, which they'll still probably have.
02:44:43.000 And, you know, the leader will come on and tell, like, well, they'll be like, hello, everyone.
02:44:47.000 And you'll go, hey, hey, hey, hey.
02:44:49.000 And it'll be a celebrity.
02:44:50.000 It'll be someone you know.
02:44:52.000 It'll be someone you're very familiar with.
02:44:54.000 And they'll say a couple of things and be like, it's not that bad, is it?
02:44:57.000 And they go, no, it's not that bad.
02:44:58.000 And they'll feed you the propaganda and you won't remember when you were free and you won't remember.
02:45:03.000 And most people will be fine with that, but me and you will be dead.
02:45:09.000 And it won't matter.
02:45:10.000 You know?
02:45:11.000 And we'll have experienced the best of it.
02:45:13.000 We'll remember when you could get in a car without a tracking device.
02:45:16.000 We'll remember when you didn't have a fucking tracking device attached to you at all times.
02:45:20.000 We'll remember when you could say what the fuck you want, alienate people, piss them off, and no one really cared and it didn't matter because you could wake up the next day and say, sorry I was drunk and it wasn't on fucking Twitter.
02:45:30.000 People didn't have a record of what you did and what you said and where you were and who you fucked and everything else.
02:45:35.000 We will remember True Freedom.
02:45:37.000 We're one of the last groups of people, It's coming.
02:46:00.000 Ha!
02:46:02.000 It's coming and it's going to be so bad it won't even feel bad.
02:46:05.000 But we'll be like, shit, remember when you could do all those things you can't do anymore.
02:46:11.000 But, you know, and there'll be a few people that remember it.
02:46:13.000 And then they'll take all those books about that shit and burn the fuck out of them.
02:46:18.000 They'll go, well, those aren't good.
02:46:19.000 Racism, homophobia.
02:46:21.000 Burn, burn, burn.
02:46:22.000 And people will forget when you could, we're free.
02:46:26.000 And they will just kind of create a society based on goodies.
02:46:30.000 Little goodies, little rewards, and the addiction to celebrity, where our leaders will all be celebrities who will tell you on closed-circuit television how good things are going.
02:46:40.000 And you'll go, good, thanks.
02:46:44.000 That's what's gonna happen.
02:46:47.000 That was one of the best rants I've ever heard in my life.
02:46:49.000 Yeah.
02:46:50.000 That was fantastic.
02:46:51.000 I hope you're wrong.
02:46:52.000 I hope I'm wrong, or if I'm right, I just hope that I'm dead.
02:46:57.000 Or I get to be one of the people who's keeping everyone else in the cage.
02:47:02.000 They'll need a jester.
02:47:05.000 They'll need a clown.
02:47:06.000 They could toss society on its head right now.
02:47:09.000 That's right.
02:47:09.000 If they went to a digital currency and said we're going to have an even distribution of wealth.
02:47:13.000 Yeah.
02:47:14.000 And the way to solve the inequities of society is an even distribution of all the wealth.
02:47:20.000 So they would just take all the wealth from all the powerful people.
02:47:22.000 That's right.
02:47:22.000 So then they wouldn't have We don't have any wealth anymore.
02:47:24.000 So they wouldn't have any ability to rise against the government.
02:47:26.000 Yeah.
02:47:27.000 If you wanted to live in like a total technocratic dictatorship where the technology completely dominates it from the top down, we're going there.
02:47:37.000 We're headed there.
02:47:39.000 We're more headed there than any other direction.
02:47:41.000 That's why we laugh at NFTs, but these are the little goodies and the treats, and look at the thing, look at the shiny thing you're being given.
02:47:48.000 But I mean, what's the solution to that?
02:47:50.000 It seems like it's going in this general direction no matter what we do.
02:47:53.000 It's like we're headed down a snow-covered hill in a fucking toboggan.
02:47:57.000 Oh yeah.
02:47:58.000 And we're going there.
02:47:59.000 So what does that mean?
02:48:01.000 What does that mean?
02:48:02.000 I mean, does it mean that there is a decentralized world?
02:48:06.000 Because it gets so powerful that no one can really control it and that the people involved in the organization have too much power to say whether or not things are openly and freely distributed.
02:48:19.000 Like, is that the bottleneck, ultimately?
02:48:21.000 That when we get to a certain point where technology becomes so fucking advanced that it's basically everything is integrated with everything.
02:48:28.000 You can't hide anything from anybody.
02:48:30.000 Right.
02:48:30.000 And everybody has access to all the information.
02:48:33.000 And then the problem with that is, like, what about people that want to, like, Hold on to things physically.
02:48:38.000 What about people that want like actual physical wealth?
02:48:41.000 Yeah Like is that what we're gonna have like is all your money gonna be in stuff now?
02:48:44.000 Yeah You have to have gold bars in your house again now because digital money might not mean anything anymore It might get to a certain point where it's just distribution of resources.
02:48:52.000 It's crazy.
02:48:53.000 We when that's when we're losing genders and that's everything We're gonna fucking have giant heads and we're all gonna be like moving through space and time.
02:49:00.000 This is all coming.
02:49:01.000 It's coming It's coming We're all gonna jump right on board, too, because they're gonna come up with something, whether it's Neuralink or something else, that just makes life way better.
02:49:10.000 They're gonna give you this chip.
02:49:11.000 They're gonna put something in.
02:49:12.000 You're always happy.
02:49:13.000 There's no more war, because everybody loves everybody.
02:49:15.000 You're much smarter than you used to be.
02:49:17.000 You get access to information constantly.
02:49:19.000 You have, like, error correction software built in.
02:49:22.000 Yeah.
02:49:23.000 It's going to be wonderful.
02:49:24.000 You're going to have a much, much, much, much, much better life.
02:49:27.000 You're going to laugh at those people with no chips.
02:49:28.000 That's right.
02:49:29.000 Just like we laughed at people that didn't have shoes.
02:49:31.000 That's why it's hard to get too worked up or upset about it because the reality is certain ideas just have a weird inertia to them that will happen anyway.
02:49:40.000 They happen from the moment the first caveman knocked on Flint.
02:49:44.000 From that barefoot caveman just knocking rocks together.
02:49:47.000 That's right.
02:49:47.000 And it kept getting better and better and better, and now it's achieved escape velocity.
02:49:52.000 It's achieved this chaos of the combination of materialism, because everybody's obsessed with phones, everybody's obsessed with new things.
02:49:58.000 Fame and money.
02:49:59.000 But no, you're buying new and new stuff.
02:50:01.000 Right.
02:50:02.000 And they keep making better...
02:50:03.000 And what's it going to do?
02:50:04.000 It's going to be more...
02:50:04.000 You're going to be more integrated.
02:50:06.000 That's right.
02:50:06.000 More integrated in the internet.
02:50:08.000 But we can't worry about it.
02:50:10.000 You're not gonna stop it.
02:50:11.000 You won't stop it.
02:50:12.000 It seems like a thing that the human animal does.
02:50:15.000 It's what we do up until we hit that zenith point, when maybe the meteor hits, it all goes away, and then a couple years later, people build it back up.
02:50:22.000 Or we become those things that we see flying around the sky.
02:50:26.000 That could happen, too.
02:50:27.000 I think that's the future.
02:50:28.000 I think what we're seeing is like what a civilization looks like when it gets past what we're at.
02:50:33.000 Yeah.
02:50:33.000 That's what I think.
02:50:34.000 I think we're looking at us right now as if like this is the most sophisticated thing ever because it is for this place.
02:50:40.000 That's true.
02:50:40.000 But we look back at like our caveman.
02:50:42.000 And we're like, this is ridiculous.
02:50:44.000 Imagine living like that.
02:50:45.000 But this is just what we're going to look at this like.
02:50:47.000 Once we find a way to travel intergalactically, that's the move.
02:50:50.000 We're gonna realize, like, all the problems that people had are instantaneously solvable.
02:50:55.000 All the chaos in our lives, all the war and death and murder and chaos and horrific things that happen, all that can erase with technology.
02:51:04.000 That's what's gonna be scary.
02:51:05.000 That's gonna be scary.
02:51:06.000 Because we're not gonna be people anymore.
02:51:08.000 Yeah, but, you know, maybe we've been people long enough.
02:51:14.000 I think it's our future.
02:51:15.000 I don't think there's a thing we're going to do to stop it.
02:51:17.000 I think that's our future.
02:51:18.000 I think you're probably right.
02:51:20.000 I think it can't go in any other direction unless the volcano blows.
02:51:24.000 Unless asteroid hits, volcano blows.
02:51:27.000 All possibilities.
02:51:29.000 100%.
02:51:29.000 And likely too.
02:51:31.000 Yeah.
02:51:31.000 The Yellowstone one freaks me out.
02:51:33.000 The super volcano?
02:51:35.000 Oh my god.
02:51:35.000 That's due.
02:51:36.000 That could, like, they don't know when.
02:51:39.000 They say like every six to eight hundred thousand years, it blows up.
02:51:42.000 And it's past two.
02:51:43.000 Yeah, it's past two.
02:51:44.000 So it could easily happen a thousand years from now, a hundred thousand years from now?
02:51:48.000 Or never.
02:51:48.000 Or tomorrow.
02:51:49.000 Or tomorrow.
02:51:49.000 Tomorrow.
02:51:50.000 It could be thousands of earthquakes.
02:51:52.000 They have thousands of earthquakes there every year, by the way.
02:51:54.000 But that's why you can't worry about anything.
02:51:56.000 Can't worry about anything.
02:51:57.000 That's why you really can't worry too much about anything.
02:52:00.000 What is that quote that I used the other day that someone said?
02:52:03.000 The problem...
02:52:05.000 I forget who was talking about this, but they were talking about anxiety.
02:52:07.000 And it's humans' ability to problem solve in the future.
02:52:11.000 And that it becomes a problem.
02:52:12.000 Because you start thinking about potential problems instead of just living in the moment.
02:52:16.000 And people are always thinking about, oh my god, what if this happens?
02:52:19.000 What if that happens?
02:52:20.000 And they develop problems in the future so they don't get surprised by it.
02:52:24.000 That's right.
02:52:24.000 So it's a little trap that your mind plays.
02:52:26.000 What we're doing here is amazing.
02:52:27.000 The idea that we can talk to people.
02:52:30.000 You know, in this way versus, you know, what we would have had to do to reach people even really 20 years ago.
02:52:40.000 Like, which is nothing.
02:52:42.000 15 years ago.
02:52:43.000 Like, nothing in terms of the time in all of history.
02:52:47.000 It's such a short amount of time.
02:52:48.000 It's an infinitesimal.
02:52:49.000 It barely registers.
02:52:50.000 And this massive, massive fucking technological innovation that has happened in that short amount of time...
02:53:00.000 That's revolutionized the world completely.
02:53:04.000 That can happen in biotech.
02:53:09.000 Our trip to becoming non-human may not take as long as we think.
02:53:15.000 It might be pretty fucking quick.
02:53:17.000 I don't think it takes that long at all.
02:53:17.000 I think it's going to be real quick.
02:53:18.000 I think once we adopt the first devices, And those devices make life way easier for the people that have them.
02:53:26.000 It's gonna be expensive, right?
02:53:28.000 Probably?
02:53:28.000 And then you would think that the people that have the money are gonna get a giant advantage by having it because it really does increase the bandwidth to access to information and you could be much more productive.
02:53:38.000 Like the way Elon was describing it, it's like you're gonna supercharge your mind ultimately.
02:53:43.000 Initially they're gonna use it for people with injuries, spinal cord injuries and medical problems and they're gonna be able to Somehow or another activate areas of the spot, which is wild shit in and of itself.
02:53:55.000 But if then you make it a fucking super person, like, you're literally gonna make an Iron Man?
02:54:00.000 Like, what are we doing here?
02:54:01.000 What are we doing?
02:54:02.000 And where does it go from there?
02:54:04.000 Because once they start using CRISPR on people, you know the Chinese story?
02:54:07.000 No.
02:54:08.000 Oh, this is a good one.
02:54:09.000 CRISPR? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:54:10.000 You know what CRISPR is?
02:54:11.000 CRISPR is genetic engineering.
02:54:13.000 Oh, okay.
02:54:14.000 It's a genetic...
02:54:15.000 There's a technology...
02:54:16.000 Blue eyes, brown eyes, yeah.
02:54:17.000 Yeah.
02:54:17.000 Well, it's...
02:54:18.000 Initially, they were using it...
02:54:20.000 They were trying to see if it could be used to eliminate genes that cause certain diseases.
02:54:24.000 Yeah.
02:54:25.000 Right?
02:54:25.000 And so...
02:54:26.000 This is what they did in China.
02:54:27.000 They said they were inoculating these children for HIV. Ooh!
02:54:32.000 So now they can't get...
02:54:34.000 It just, by happenstance, made them much smarter.
02:54:38.000 Right.
02:54:39.000 It increased their IQ substantially.
02:54:41.000 Interesting.
02:54:42.000 And I think they put the doctor in jail after it was over.
02:54:45.000 Amazing.
02:54:45.000 The Chinese were like, we didn't have anything to do with that.
02:54:47.000 This man's a criminal.
02:54:49.000 Right.
02:54:49.000 See if that's the case.
02:54:51.000 I don't think I'm fucking that up too bad.
02:54:53.000 I probably am a little.
02:54:54.000 But the story was that they were supposed to be giving them some sort of inoculation for HIV. What CRISPR baby prison sentences mean for research?
02:55:02.000 Chinese court sends strong signal by punishing He, Jiang, Kui, and two colleagues.
02:55:09.000 I was like, what did they do?
02:55:12.000 It's a biophysicist who announced that he had created the world's first gene-edited babies to three years in prison.
02:55:18.000 They sentenced him for illegal medical practice and handed down shorter sentences to two colleagues who assisted him.
02:55:25.000 The punishments put to rest speculation over whether the Chinese government would bring criminal charges for an act that shocked the world and are likely to deter others from similar behaviors, says Chinese scientists.
02:55:37.000 By the way, this thing that shocked the world, they're going to do it on all babies.
02:55:40.000 It's going to take time, but they're going to do it on all babies.
02:55:42.000 Right.
02:55:43.000 Because why wouldn't you do it?
02:55:44.000 To make them smarter.
02:55:45.000 Well, what if you found out your baby had a genetic defect?
02:55:47.000 You've got to make it better, yeah.
02:55:47.000 Why would you, you know?
02:55:49.000 So anyway, what does it say that he did and what the result was?
02:55:54.000 Because what was very strange about the result was that there was this positive increase in cognitive function.
02:56:03.000 I gotta think that's not a fucking accident.
02:56:05.000 I can't imagine that they really were worried about these children contracting HIV. There's no way it's an accident.
02:56:11.000 That's not what you would think would be a focus.
02:56:14.000 But if I was in a communist country and I was trying to make the best thing for the government, what's the best thing for the government?
02:56:21.000 Super fucking smart people.
02:56:22.000 That's right.
02:56:22.000 So let's get some super smart people on board and run this shit with geniuses.
02:56:27.000 Fuck yeah.
02:56:28.000 So I don't know if they allowed him to do it, if they gave him a license to do it, or if he's rogue.
02:56:33.000 But it seems like that's a weird...
02:56:35.000 It seems like it was probably a wink and a nod.
02:56:36.000 I mean, they do have unintended consequences, right?
02:56:38.000 Yeah.
02:56:40.000 There's no way they're inoculating babies for HIV. I doubt it.
02:56:44.000 There's no way.
02:56:44.000 It just doesn't seem like that's what you would do.
02:56:45.000 It seems odd.
02:56:46.000 A sexually transmitted disease.
02:56:48.000 It's crazy.
02:56:49.000 It seems odd.
02:56:49.000 It seems like they were probably trying to see, you know...
02:56:52.000 Like, sometimes they do medicate...
02:56:53.000 Like, what was...
02:56:54.000 Viagra was for, like, blood pressure or something like that, right?
02:56:57.000 Wasn't it like...
02:56:58.000 Yeah, there's...
02:56:58.000 You know, there's things like that.
02:57:00.000 And they find out, oh, it works for this.
02:57:02.000 But not that?
02:57:04.000 Where you're gene editing and you make someone wicked smart?
02:57:07.000 What was the increase in IQ that they found?
02:57:11.000 Or the evidence of increase in intelligence?
02:57:14.000 Because there was some sort of evidence.
02:57:17.000 I don't know what tests they use, but they're fucking super smart people.
02:57:22.000 But tell me they haven't already done that.
02:57:24.000 Oh, for sure.
02:57:25.000 We're hearing about the first ones, really?
02:57:27.000 There's definitely cases, I'm sure, that were experimental.
02:57:33.000 How would they have tested the IQ? I'm trying to find it right now.
02:57:35.000 I'm thinking about it.
02:57:36.000 You can't test a baby's IQ. That's what I'm asking.
02:57:38.000 I mean, what did they use to detect intelligence?
02:57:41.000 Oh.
02:57:44.000 I remember reading that, though, but...
02:57:45.000 Yeah, I did, too.
02:57:46.000 I just don't remember what exactly they used or how old the babies are.
02:57:49.000 Maybe the babies are already talking.
02:57:50.000 Listen, man.
02:57:51.000 Yeah, I got some shit to tell you.
02:57:52.000 Maybe the babies have an enhanced ability to learn and form memories, but...
02:57:55.000 Oh, may also have an enhanced their ability to...
02:57:59.000 Oh, no, but that's just in the title.
02:58:00.000 What does it say down...
02:58:02.000 Like, how did they find out that it...
02:58:04.000 Well, it may have...
02:58:05.000 Goddamn pop-ups.
02:58:06.000 I don't know if they...
02:58:06.000 Do you ever subscribe to this bitch?
02:58:08.000 The babies came out and were like, fuck Taiwan!
02:58:10.000 God, they're smart.
02:58:12.000 Right out of the box.
02:58:13.000 Their first two words, yeah.
02:58:14.000 They already knew.
02:58:15.000 It's a scary world.
02:58:16.000 That stuff's not going to change.
02:58:18.000 It's because of the gene that was edited.
02:58:20.000 It has to do with that.
02:58:21.000 Okay, now new research shows the same alteration introduced into the girl's DNA. Detection of a gene called CCR5 not only makes mice smarter, but also improves human brain recovery after stroke and could be linked to greater success at school.
02:58:38.000 Okay, duh.
02:58:40.000 The answer is likely yes.
02:58:41.000 It did affect their brains, says Alcino J. Silva, a neurobiologist at the University of California, Los Angeles, whose lab uncovered a major new role for CCR5 gene in memory and the brain's ability to form new connections.
02:58:59.000 Sorry, it's getting darker as the screen goes on.
02:59:01.000 We're too cheap to buy it.
02:59:03.000 Yeah.
02:59:04.000 What is that website, though?
02:59:05.000 Give them a plug.
02:59:07.000 MIT. MIT. Yeah, they need help.
02:59:10.000 MIT needs help.
02:59:11.000 You put that out there, kids.
02:59:12.000 Come on.
02:59:13.000 It's for higher learning.
02:59:14.000 So they obviously did that shit on Barberos.
02:59:16.000 100%.
02:59:17.000 Why wouldn't you?
02:59:18.000 Why are you already in there?
02:59:19.000 How about fix it?
02:59:20.000 Give them a big dick.
02:59:21.000 What if they got in the big dick chain?
02:59:22.000 Yeah, it's hard to even argue against it.
02:59:25.000 I know that we shouldn't.
02:59:28.000 You know, we shouldn't manipulate life and da-da-da-da-da.
02:59:31.000 But that's not going to win that argument.
02:59:33.000 No, it's not going to win that argument.
02:59:34.000 It's one of those things where, you know, when you give people the ability to do something, it can substantially increase a person's potential in everything.
02:59:44.000 Yes.
02:59:44.000 Why wouldn't you do it?
02:59:45.000 Because you want to be able to do it to yourself.
02:59:47.000 Competitive advantage.
02:59:48.000 And you're giving them a big one.
02:59:49.000 And you're doing that to babies, but I think the idea is to do it to people.
02:59:55.000 Everybody.
02:59:55.000 And I think they've done some things to people.
02:59:58.000 Like, what have they used CRISPR on for, like, a live patient, not an embryo?
03:00:02.000 What have they done with CRISPR that, uh...
03:00:05.000 Well, they're also, they're trying to do a lot with stem cells.
03:00:08.000 Yes, they're definitely doing a lot with stem cells, but that's different.
03:00:10.000 That's different.
03:00:11.000 Yeah, that doesn't have nearly the same impact.
03:00:13.000 Like, what stem cells do is they allow you to heal.
03:00:15.000 CRISPR is, like, deleting the genes.
03:00:17.000 CRISPR is, like, altering the code.
03:00:19.000 It's like a guy who knows DOS, and he gets into your fucking laptop.
03:00:22.000 He's like, Tim, I'm gonna fix your thing.
03:00:23.000 He's like, shh, shh, shh, shh.
03:00:24.000 You're in the code of the fucking human body, and if you can delete genes that have problematic results in a certain percentage of the population, you could literally eliminate specific genetic diseases that people have.
03:00:39.000 You could make sure that babies are not going to have any issues as they're developing in the womb.
03:00:45.000 You'd be able to correct things, ultimately, one day.
03:00:48.000 And that's what's going to lead people to get excited about it, and then it's going to continue to escalate.
03:00:53.000 It's going to be something that's everywhere.
03:00:56.000 Okay, so what does it say here?
03:00:58.000 The first use of an ex vivo CRISPR based therapy to treat a genetic disease.
03:01:04.000 Researchers treated a patient with beta thalassemia in Germany in February 2019. Twelve more patients have since been treated and seven of them have been followed for at least three months.
03:01:16.000 None of the patients need blood transfusions in the months after treatment.
03:01:20.000 The first patient with SCD was treated with the same therapy in Nashville, Tennessee in July 2019. This patient, Victoria Gray, has shown remarkable progress.
03:01:29.000 Hear from Gray herself, early results on other patients are promising too.
03:01:34.000 All patients treated for SCD or beta thalassemia are showing normal to near normal hemoglobin levels.
03:01:42.000 Holy shit!
03:01:43.000 Where at least 30% of them or 40% of them of hemoglobin is fetal hemoglobin.
03:01:49.000 In bone marrow samples taken from Gray, an additional SCD patient, and 5-bethalassemia patients, researchers found cells with the expected genetic edit that allows them to make fetal hemoglobin.
03:02:04.000 This indicates that the edited cells have successfully taken up residence in the bone marrow.
03:02:10.000 The only immediate side effect associated with the treatment resulted from the administration of chemotherapy.
03:02:16.000 So only the chemotherapy fucked them up.
03:02:18.000 That is wild.
03:02:19.000 That's wild.
03:02:20.000 They're fixing people with this shit.
03:02:22.000 They're fixing people.
03:02:23.000 That's the positive aspect of it.
03:02:25.000 And it's amazing.
03:02:26.000 But what's going to happen is everyone's going to look like Thor.
03:02:29.000 We're all going to be perfect.
03:02:31.000 And then we're going to be super.
03:02:32.000 There's going to be people just like women that have double E fake tits.
03:02:35.000 Yeah, but if that's the negative...
03:02:36.000 I don't know if that's the negative.
03:02:38.000 If you look around at our society and you know the problem is everyone's going to be in shape and look like Thor.
03:02:43.000 I don't know.
03:02:43.000 But I understand what you mean.
03:02:44.000 You know what I'm saying?
03:02:44.000 We're getting rid of the natural quirkiness that makes someone different.
03:02:50.000 Like, that's Rachel.
03:02:51.000 She fucking never eats lunch or whatever.
03:02:54.000 Yeah.
03:02:54.000 Yeah.
03:02:55.000 You know, listen, it's gonna be fine.
03:02:58.000 It's all gonna be fine.
03:02:59.000 We're just not gonna be this anymore.
03:03:00.000 And we can't be.
03:03:01.000 No.
03:03:01.000 We've had enough of being human.
03:03:03.000 Well, we're just so attached to this because we've always been this and we've always known, you know, Abraham Lincoln was this.
03:03:08.000 Right.
03:03:09.000 But this is this.
03:03:10.000 But, you know, the next Abraham Lincoln is gonna be CRISPR. Yeah, he's gonna be a CRISPR person.
03:03:14.000 CRISPR the fuck out.
03:03:15.000 He's going to be like that alien in Prometheus, the one who comes from another planet to put his genes into the DNA. That's right.
03:03:21.000 That's what he's going to be.
03:03:22.000 That's right.
03:03:23.000 And I'm ready for that.
03:03:25.000 Yeah.
03:03:26.000 Remember what those dudes look like?
03:03:27.000 They all look exactly the same.
03:03:28.000 They were like weird obsidian balls.
03:03:30.000 This is actually the best example.
03:03:32.000 Go to the aliens in Prometheus.
03:03:35.000 This is the best example.
03:03:35.000 They were in shape, guys, but they were like- Yeah, they were super fucking jacked.
03:03:38.000 Yeah.
03:03:39.000 But show them what they're out there shirts on because there's all these pictures of them without their shirts on their fucking suit like when the dude goes into the river that's seen in the first Yes, I mean come on.
03:03:49.000 That's what we're all gonna look like.
03:03:51.000 That's our future That's the future with genetic editing.
03:03:54.000 You're not hugely different from that now You're gonna have much less of a trip than I will But he looked even better than that.
03:04:01.000 Go to that photo there.
03:04:02.000 Well, see if you can find the video, because the video is fascinating.
03:04:05.000 Opening video, Prometheus.
03:04:06.000 What do you think timeline?
03:04:08.000 30 years, 50 years?
03:04:09.000 30, 50 years.
03:04:10.000 By 50, everybody looks like that.
03:04:12.000 Wow.
03:04:13.000 By 50, everybody has a bulletproof body, and you see through walls.
03:04:16.000 It's going to be crazy.
03:04:17.000 Yeah, it's going to be wild.
03:04:18.000 And I think we're all going to embrace it, because it's going to be way more fun.
03:04:21.000 It's going to be way better than not...
03:04:22.000 Here it is.
03:04:23.000 So he goes down to the waterfall.
03:04:25.000 Watch this.
03:04:25.000 Takes off his robe.
03:04:27.000 And he's going to kill himself and destroy his body and his DNA is going to enter into the Earth's DNA. Look at this fucking frame on this man!
03:04:36.000 Now, why is he doing this again?
03:04:38.000 Because he wants to show you he's jacked.
03:04:40.000 That's why he has to take his shirt off before he poisons himself.
03:04:43.000 So he's going to, but he wants to cover his dick up because he's modest.
03:04:47.000 Look at the body on that thing.
03:04:49.000 That creature from another planet with a perfect physique.
03:04:51.000 And he's poisoning himself.
03:04:52.000 Yes, so he's going to poison himself and it's going to break down his DNA and he's going to enter into the river.
03:04:57.000 See, the spaceship has dropped him off for him to populate Earth just with his DNA and the idea is that it'll eventually integrate and become life.
03:05:07.000 And this is what happened to America.
03:05:09.000 This is what happened to Earth, right?
03:05:11.000 Well, I think this is a very sensationalized version of what they believe.
03:05:15.000 Right.
03:05:16.000 They believe that there was some genetic...
03:05:17.000 the real kooks believed that there was genetic engineering to ancient hominids, and that's what created human beings.
03:05:24.000 There were a combination of primate, lower primate, and some sort of species from another galaxy.
03:05:30.000 Seems correct.
03:05:31.000 Right?
03:05:32.000 Something happened.
03:05:33.000 We fucking definitely got to jump on those motherfuckers.
03:05:36.000 So look how he dies.
03:05:37.000 He dies and his body just destroys and falls apart and he falls into the river and integrates.
03:05:42.000 And then the idea is, I guess, that his genetic material is the building blocks for whatever life is going to emerge on that planet.
03:05:51.000 So what they think happened here was that human beings have been visited from the beginning of time, and that what happened was they recognized that there was an intelligent species emerging, but they were really, really,
03:06:06.000 really far behind.
03:06:07.000 And so they give this intelligent species some of their genes or they manipulate their genes and allow them to advance much quicker than all the other primates or any other animal on the planet.
03:06:21.000 And where did that intelligent race come from?
03:06:23.000 Well, it depends on who you listen to.
03:06:25.000 If you listen to some of the people that think that UFOs are coming from multiple different galaxies and multiple different planets, it could be from anywhere.
03:06:33.000 But if you listen to the real kooks that believe that the Anunnaki came here, the Zechariah Sitchin stuff?
03:06:39.000 Yeah, dude, big time.
03:06:40.000 The first episode we ever did, I brought that up.
03:06:42.000 That's the fascinating stuff.
03:06:44.000 The Zacharias Hitchin stuff is the fascinating stuff because it's all based on these ancient Sumerian texts.
03:06:49.000 It's very in dispute of what this guy says.
03:06:51.000 There's a whole website called SitchinIsWrong.com where they break down his assertions and say this is what's inaccurate and this is why it's wrong.
03:06:57.000 But what's undeniable is that these people had a detailed map of the solar system 6,000 years ago that they wrote in clay that showed the sun at the center and all the planets in the correct orbit with the correct size.
03:07:12.000 Not necessarily the ratio, but this one's bigger than that one.
03:07:15.000 They had a knowledge of the cosmos in some strange way.
03:07:19.000 And they also had depictions of these very tall, strange-looking figures With little monkey people on their laps.
03:07:28.000 And they had the symbol for DNA, like the double helix DNA. They had that.
03:07:34.000 That's crazy.
03:07:35.000 They had that symbol that they used to represent medicine.
03:07:38.000 That's the same symbol.
03:07:40.000 Like, they had that on the wall.
03:07:42.000 Yeah, so there's something.
03:07:43.000 They had some idea, some knowledge.
03:07:46.000 Well, it depends on who you ask.
03:07:47.000 Some people say it's all just ornamental and it's all just beautiful.
03:07:50.000 Zechariah Sitchin believed that what those Sumerian texts depict is that there's a planet called Dimbiru, and the planet comes here, and the Anunnaki have been genetically manipulating people since the beginning.
03:08:02.000 Of time.
03:08:03.000 It's a fun one.
03:08:05.000 I've been in there, and I know.
03:08:06.000 I mean, it's chariots of the gods, Eric von Donegan, all that shit.
03:08:09.000 I had lunch with that guy.
03:08:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:08:11.000 I mean, at this point, it's like whoever did this, it's like, thanks, but also you fucked up a little.
03:08:18.000 Well, maybe they're just standing by for technology to take us into the next realm.
03:08:24.000 That's right.
03:08:25.000 I think that's probably the inevitable.
03:08:27.000 I mean, I know people are like, fuck that!
03:08:29.000 And I'm with you.
03:08:30.000 I'm with you.
03:08:31.000 But I'm just saying, I don't think we're going to be able to stop it.
03:08:33.000 It's coming.
03:08:34.000 It's coming.
03:08:34.000 And maybe that's what the aliens are hovering around waiting for.
03:08:37.000 That's right.
03:08:38.000 They're waiting for, like, they're right about to bloom.
03:08:40.000 Like, they're coming in right when the human race is about to bloom.
03:08:42.000 Right.
03:08:43.000 Like, they had a few hiccups.
03:08:44.000 You know, there was a late frost with the nuclear war.
03:08:47.000 Well, maybe Elon Musk is going to, maybe they'll start in Austin.
03:08:51.000 Could be.
03:08:51.000 And all these, you know, half-hybrid human aliens will walk around eating tacos.
03:08:55.000 How long before you get a chip?
03:08:57.000 In my head?
03:08:58.000 Yeah.
03:08:58.000 Well, I don't know that anyone's offered one.
03:09:01.000 But if it started coming out...
03:09:03.000 No, I mean, if I was at the end of my thing, at the end of life, I would go, ah, maybe.
03:09:08.000 But, you know, I'm going to hold on.
03:09:10.000 I think we hold on to humanity as long as we can.
03:09:13.000 Because we are that last crew.
03:09:15.000 Yeah.
03:09:16.000 And that's what makes it...
03:09:17.000 And the minute we put the chip in, it's like, we're dying.
03:09:19.000 It's over.
03:09:20.000 I gotta pee so bad, I think we should wrap this up.
03:09:22.000 Yes.
03:09:23.000 Tim Dillon, you're the fucking man.
03:09:24.000 That was one of the best rants I've ever heard.
03:09:26.000 We're gonna clip it and put it on my Instagram.
03:09:28.000 Don't sue me.
03:09:29.000 Please do.
03:09:29.000 Please put it up there.
03:09:30.000 And listen, if everything ends and it's all horrible, we got a chance to live in the greatest city in the world, Austin, Texas.
03:09:36.000 We had a great time.
03:09:37.000 That's right.
03:09:38.000 Thank you, brother.
03:09:38.000 Bye.
03:09:39.000 Love you.