Comedian David Attal stops by the Joe Rogan Experience in Austin, TX to reminisce about his time at The Cap City and what it's like to be a comedian on the road. He also talks about his plans for a new comedy club he's opening in Houston, TX called The Mothership, and why he thinks there should be more comedy clubs in Texas. He also shares some of his favorite comedy clubs he went to growing up in the 80s and 90s, and what he's looking forward to in the future of comedy in Texas and the rest of the country. This is a must-listen for anyone who grew up in Texas or who has ever been to a comedy club in the past or is looking to open a new one, this is the episode for you! Also, if you haven t checked out the new show on Comedy Central, you should definitely do so. It's a must! The Joe Rogans Experience is a show where you get to meet and talk to some of the funniest, funniest and most genuine people in the world. It's not your average comedy club and it's a show you can't miss! If you haven't checked it out yet, you won't want to miss it! Check it out! -Joe Rogan Podcast by Night, by Day, All Day, by Night - by Day by Day - by Night All Day by Night by Day by Night by Day All Day by Morning by Day By Day by Morning by Afternoon by Day and Afternoon By Night by Night By Night All Day and Night by Evening by Evening by Night all day by Day/Night by Day all day/Night/Day by Night/Night by day/Day By Day/Day/Night all day? By Day, By Day and Evening by Day & Evening by Morning/Night, By Night/By Day/By Night/All Day/Evenday/By Evening/All Night/A Day/A Night/Late Night/Day, All Night/Even Day/Late Nights/By Any day/Late Evening/Even Night/Early Morning/Late Nite/Late Late Night/Good Morning/Early Evening/Late at Night/Anyday/Late At Night -By Day & Early Night? by Day or Early Morning/Even Afterday/Early Night? -Day & Early Morning -Night & Early Evening?
00:00:20.000I was telling your guys before you showed up, I was like, I'm hoping there's other guests besides me because I don't really think I'm interesting enough to hold the whole show.
00:02:22.000I heard that that spot is still there, which I was like, Jesus Christ, if that's the case, once we open up in Austin, I would love to open up a mothership in Houston.
00:02:33.000If that place is still there, holy shit, that place is amazing.
00:02:36.000Yeah, it's always been like, you know, I remember it was like me, Hedberg, and Patrice, like, we would all like rotate through there, and I was always like, if you ran into them like, oh man, I was just at the stop, I was like, oh, it must have been awesome, and you know, you'd be jealous, you know?
00:02:52.000Crazy ass Mark Babbitt ran a hell of a club.
00:03:19.000You know, that front open mic was amazing.
00:03:21.000You would get there at 8 o'clock, and the show would start, and then they'd start an open mic around the same time, and the open mic would go to fucking 2 o'clock in the morning.
00:04:39.000You know, when the club also supports the locals, it's not just like for the headliners.
00:04:43.000That's when you know it's like a real deal situation because, you know, these local scenes, like I was just in Nashville, that scene is popping.
00:04:53.000And, you know, it's getting the locals, you know, on stage in front of a big crowd, you know, that's important.
00:04:58.000Getting them on stage in front of me, giving them those spots, like the Kill Tony spots, and I've had a few of those guys like Hans Kim and William Montgomery and David Lucas, who started in LA, but he's out here now too, doing those shows with us there too, and they're exploding.
00:05:12.000And there's also a lot of room for other clubs too.
00:05:36.000I don't know about you, like, your, I guess, origin story, but, like, I had a job...
00:05:42.000For, like, the first five or six years of comedy, and, like, I was such a bad comic that, like, I would sometimes go, like, oh, God, I can't wait to get back to my day job.
00:05:53.000Oh, man, I can't wait to eat a muffin at my desk.
00:05:56.000You know, it was like that kind of a thing.
00:05:57.000So, yeah, I know what these people go through, and even though there's, like, all these platforming and all that stuff, it'll always be the same, like, you know, basically, you know, Whatever, I guess you could say the journey has many roads, many twists and turns.
00:06:12.000The journey does, but at least this way, I think there's a map of the landscape now.
00:06:46.000I was lucky where you can go to one place, bomb, and then skid mark your way over to the next one and suffer there and then the next one.
00:06:54.000So you got a whole night of sadness, whereas some kids, especially West Coast, it's like, oh, I got a spot, one a week, and then they got to live with that kind of trauma for a whole week.
00:10:25.000So there's a benefit in that, and the store was even better, because at the store, most of my spots were after 10. So I was leaving, like, they were well asleep.
00:14:14.000Some of us fell apart in this wonderful world of what's okay to talk about, what's not okay to talk about, what's a joke, and what's not acceptable.
00:17:51.000And you don't know, man, because, like, there's shit that you might have heard when you had been doing comedy for six months and you completely forgot about it.
00:17:58.000And then all of a sudden it pops in your head as if it's yours.
00:18:31.000And I always, you know, since I have very few marketable skills, you know, it's cool to have one where you have some control over your, you know, destiny, situation, all that kind of stuff.
00:18:42.000You've managed to avoid all the pitfalls of social media.
00:19:16.000You gotta give a lot of yourself for that.
00:19:17.000I'm not really like, you know, like, I have trouble talking about myself and I like talking about comedy and like, you know, we were talking about this outside in the hall about like, there's a lot of dead friends of ours, you know, out there and stuff like that.
00:19:31.000And, you know, if I could bring one up would be cool.
00:19:35.000Gilbert, you know, who I was there when he went down, you know, Jeff Ross and I were both really close friends of the family and Gilbert.
00:19:41.000And we had both been there, like, day of.
00:19:44.000And I was there in the morning when he went down.
00:19:46.000And I was thinking, like, you know, here's a guy who generationally, like, since the 80s, you know, has been famous, infamous, famous, all that kind of stuff.
00:19:56.000And we all knew him in the comedy world, like, what he was about, or at least I did.
00:19:59.000You know, I was always a huge fan of his.
00:20:29.000And it's like, it's amazing how like, you know, here's a guy who's older than me, but he somehow took to it and it worked for him, you know?
00:20:35.000It just naturally fit his personality.
00:22:01.000It's really good how, like, you know, being older, like, you're like, I wonder what these surviving cast members of Magnum Piaria are up to.
00:22:07.000I guess I can look on Cameo and see which ones are available for a happy birthday message.
00:24:08.000Did she really, if, let's just say if, we're not alleging anything, but if she really did feed her husband to a tiger, and you can get her to wish you a happy birthday, that is fucking hilarious.
00:28:16.000How many have just fucking disappeared?
00:28:18.000How many homeless folks just vanished?
00:28:20.000One of my favorite stories was a guy stole a car and the cops were chasing him and he jumps out of the car on a bridge and jumps in the water and lands right on an alligator and gets killed right in front of the cops.
00:29:01.000Yeah, just like, you know, there's a lot of, you know, psychosis out there.
00:29:05.000There's a lot of whatever's going on, a lot of aggressive panhandling, a lot of just like, I can do whatever I want whenever I want going on.
00:29:11.000So it's kind of old school New York, like more like in the 70s, 80s than it is.
00:31:45.000Yeah, it's just like, what the fuck, man?
00:31:50.000Like, rats are around people all day long in numbers that are, like, they think that the physical size of the rat population, in terms of, like, their biological mass, their weight, is the same as people.
00:32:03.000Wow, you mean all the people to all the rats?
00:35:29.000But when a chicken thinks that it has to raise an egg, even though the egg hasn't been fertilized, it's called brooding, they get kind of crazy.
00:35:36.000And they pick at their feathers, and then they sit on an egg, and they just insist that this egg, even though it's not fertilized, is going to become a chicken.
00:45:23.000The thing about those dogs, too, is, like, it's interesting, retrievers, because they, that, um, teaching a dog to fetch and then bring it back.
00:45:29.000Some dogs don't want to bring it back.
00:45:31.000They're like, hey, motherfucker, bring the ball back.
00:45:59.000You know, I got a lot of bills, so I've been stepping it up and trying to do, like, at least two to three weeks on the road, like, you know, full tilt, four days, you know.
00:46:50.000I mean, that's half the fun for real comedy nerds, is to watch a guy, like, start a bit, and then you see where that bit becomes in six months...
00:48:35.000You really kind of got what a headliner does.
00:48:37.000I tell the story, and unfortunately, if you've heard it before, people are going to hear it again.
00:48:41.000One time we were at Eastside Comedy Club, and I got there on a Sunday, and the guy who was the host of the show all weekend said, Jenny did four different hours.
00:48:51.000He did two different hours on Friday night, and then two shows on Saturday night.
00:49:21.000No, he was a special comic that I don't think gets his due.
00:49:25.000I was always a giant fan of his, but then one day I was coming home from the Irvine Improv, and you know how sometimes your Bluetooth on your phone just randomly syncs up and plays a track that's on your phone?
00:50:45.000A lot of people come up to me and ask me about it and all that kind of stuff, but I do know that I haven't put out a lot of stuff, but that was one of the things that definitely did click with the comedy audience.
00:51:32.000When I would go to Tower Records, you know, and like they would have like the comedy section, it was always like the Steve Martin and, you know, Richard Pryor, of course.
00:51:39.000But then there was like all the weirds of Dr. Demento and all those like you're like looking at these things, like looking around, see if everybody's looking at you, you know?
00:51:47.000I went to a gas stop once and I got these cassettes that were old Richard Pryor cassettes.
00:51:53.000From Red Fox's Comedy Club in Los Angeles.
00:51:56.000It was like someone just set up a microphone and started recording.
00:51:59.000And Richard Pryor was like fucking around.
00:52:33.000I think someone had cut a sneaky deal and not let the comics in on it.
00:52:37.000When you go to a truck stop and like, you know, you see their CDs and DVDs and it's like always Larry the Cable Guy, you know, they have all of his stuff.
00:52:44.000And I was always like, Larry, you know, no one else has tapped this market.
00:52:51.000I was like, I was like impressed that like, this is like of all the things that they have here, you know, they got like all You know, I got a little cooler.
00:52:59.000They got all these different things that are combined.
00:53:01.000It's like they definitely need some tapes as they're rolling, you know, rolling through down the road.
00:56:53.000Doing shows at the Improv was one of the first times that I got to see Shane's set because he killed at the Vulcan, but we were in the green room and it was packed and you couldn't hear.
00:57:02.000There's a monitor in there and you can listen, but there were so many people were talking and we were all having fun.
00:57:06.000I didn't get a chance to see his sets, but then getting to work with him in Irvine, I got to see his whole set.
00:58:11.000Well, I think that's, like, a big name comes in and they want to do some material that's cool, but, like, a lot of these young comics, you know, like, they're waiting around, like, you know, to go on.
00:58:21.000It's like, I hate being the guy who, like, puts them back.
00:58:47.000I mean, like, sometimes I'll bounce before that, but usually it's like during the week, like on a Tuesday, Wednesday night, it's probably like 12.50, one in the morning, you know.
00:59:01.000But then on the weekend I'll do two or three, and late.
00:59:04.000So you just like to do one show a night, fuck around?
00:59:07.000Only if I have new stuff, otherwise I feel really bad about taking the stage time.
00:59:12.000Something new to say, but I'll go on every night, but I'll force myself to do, even if it's like telling a joke different, I gotta get up there and try it.
00:59:20.000It's amazing your, this humility that you have about that, about stage time.
00:59:25.000It's because like every club would die to have you go up.
00:59:31.000It's like you're one of the best comics alive and you have this attitude like a middle act that doesn't want to fuck up the show for anybody.
00:59:38.000I will say one thing, like, you know, when you go on the road and you go on early and it's like, you know, you're like, whoa, these people are, you know, they're not as like...
00:59:50.000Especially since I'm old now and there's all these young people hitting with their killer 20. So I like to see if I can still, like, bring it, you know?
01:00:17.000You're flying through it, like a regular show.
01:00:21.000Yeah, I'd say that like, you know, the cellar especially is built late.
01:00:24.000Like, it feels better late than it does early.
01:00:26.000But, you know, the crowds there, you get a lot of different, like, I guess you got that in LA too, where it's like, you got Euros, you got locals, you got people who, you know, I guess domestic tourists, you know, people coming all the way in from Arkansas.
01:00:38.000So, you know, you get like, kind of like a buffet of audience.
01:03:32.000Well, comedy is now separated from the mass media of Hollywood.
01:03:38.000It used to be that there was all these gatekeepers that got to tell you whether or not you were good or got to tell you whether or not you were accepted by this or accepted by that.
01:03:47.000Really, the only gatekeeper should be the audience.
01:03:50.000It should be like, do people like your stuff?
01:03:57.000Then those are the people that are going to support you now.
01:04:00.000So you're supported by all these podcast people like Gillis and Norman and Ari and Segura and Tony and there's all this fucking giant unity of this community of podcasters and Burt.
01:04:40.000You know, he parties hard, but that motherfucker works his ass off.
01:04:43.000His schedule's preposterous, and he's always doing a bunch of other shit, and now he's doing Something's Burning again.
01:04:47.000I was actually just talking to Brian Simpson, and he was on his way over to film a new episode of Something's Burning, that cooking show that he had?
01:09:49.000You have to go into international waters and talk shit.
01:09:51.000But it would be like, you know, my always fear was like people like, well, why didn't you do it?
01:09:54.000I go, well, I don't know, just being, you know, like, what if you bomb and then you're trapped with those people for two days and three nights, you know, like, yeah, it'd be tough, you know, stay in your cabin.
01:10:06.000Not only that, if they're mad, you can throw you off.
01:11:03.000Like, they're, like, swimming around, like, in the middle of the ocean, like the dead zone, they call it, like, just swimming around, like, oh, there's a twig over there, let's go over there for a minute.
01:11:11.000Like, that's, like, the highlight of their, you know, week.
01:11:13.000But it's just, like, swimming around, nothing going on.
01:12:43.000And then the asteroid came and kind of reset the whole, like, you know, order of the who's going to be who.
01:12:47.000And I was like, man, can you imagine this, like, walking around and it's just like everything is, like, towering over you and your food to everything.
01:12:54.000It's like, oh, man, this would be crazy.
01:12:55.000But they never figured anything out, which is really fascinating.
01:13:33.000But when I was a kid and we would go to the Natural History Museum and we'd see the big dinosaur and everything, I was into that, but then I hit that age where I was like, boring, I don't care about dinosaurs, I don't care about robots, let's see some robots.
01:13:45.000And then we'd go back and now I'm like an adult, I'm like, oh yeah, I kind of see what they're talking about because he's got the vertebrae.
01:13:53.000I guess you get smarter when you get older.
01:13:54.000You have more time to think about stuff.
01:13:56.000Yeah, I brought my kids to the museum in New York a few years back.
01:13:59.000They didn't give a fuck about those dinosaurs.
01:14:01.000There's just too much stimulus for them now.
01:14:28.000You're walking through, they give you this guided tour, and you're walking through all this incredible art from 1,000 years ago, 1,500 years ago, 1,200 years ago.
01:14:38.000There's a fucking Egyptian obelisk in the center of this town court area.
01:15:48.000They're not exactly sure but there's some significance to this gland that they thought at one point in time was like the seed of the soul and that this gland is like the third eye.
01:16:00.000On reptiles it actually has a retina or a lens.
01:16:03.000It's like placed where the third eye would be in Eastern mysticism and so that gland is always thought to have these magical properties.
01:16:11.000Do you think they used like hallucinogenic psychotic drugs during their ceremonies?
01:16:28.000And this was like a project that took like 14 years, and they were like looking at this, the oldest version of the Bible.
01:16:34.000And at the end of this, this guy was like an ordained minister, but he became agnostic as he's studying theology, and he found the similarities in all these different stories.
01:16:41.000And he came up with this theory, and he wrote this book called The Sacred Mushroom on the Cross, that the entire Christian religion was really about the consumption of psychedelic mushrooms and fertility rituals.
01:16:54.000And that all these stories had to do, they were all like ways they hid these ancient ways.
01:16:59.000So if they got like raided by the Romans and like they, if you imagine if some people lived, you know, 3,000, 4,000 years ago and they found a bunch of mushrooms and they started eating We're all going to come together and be together as one, be loving.
01:17:14.000And they wrote down all these ideas and these stories, and they first of all passed them down orally before they even figured out how to write things for like a thousand years.
01:17:21.000And then they started writing them down.
01:17:22.000Like that sounds like what the story would be.
01:17:26.000And he traced back the word Jesus to an ancient Sumerian word that means a mushroom covered in God's semen.
01:17:36.000See, it's hard for me to know who's right and who's wrong, right?
01:17:40.000Because if you wanted to break that down, you'd have to have this very complex understanding of these ancient languages, and there's no way I can know if he's right.
01:17:49.000I didn't even know mushrooms were like—I thought it was like a regional thing.
01:19:15.000And in different cultures, they're a part of rituals that they would do.
01:19:19.000And this guy, Brian Mirorescu, they actually opened up a field of study at Harvard about this particular subject because of his work.
01:19:28.000He found that the ancient Greeks, that what they were doing when they had these enlightenment ceremonies, they all get together and talk, and what was it called?
01:20:01.000I love those documentaries, like, you know, that was the only, like, type of water that they would drink because everything else was, like, you know, people bathed in it, you know, the animals, you know, whatever in it.
01:21:13.000Let's see what's the difference between ergot and LSD. Ergot can kill you, too, though.
01:21:17.000One of the things it does is it gets on rye, and when there's frosts, And the rye gets like an early frost, and then when it comes back from the frost, a lot of times it's poisoned by ergot in places where that stuff exists.
01:21:34.000And that shit is responsible for the 1950s.
01:21:37.000There was like ergot poisoning in this farm or this town in France where they had a similar thing.
01:21:43.000And people started having visions of hell, and they thought they were dying.
01:21:47.000They were all tripping balls, and some of them did die from the poisoning of it.
01:21:50.000Ergot does not contain lysergic acid diethylamide, but instead contains lysergic acid as well as its precursor ergotamine.
01:22:03.000So lysergic acid is a precursor for the synthesis of LSD. So it has some sort of LSD-like It says, thankfully, LSD hallucinations are very different from the fiery visions of poor ergot victims.
01:23:13.000Some of them had tried to throw themselves out of their windows to stop the imagination.
01:23:18.000Almost 300 people in the region were taken to hospitals and five died and 60 people ended up in psychiatric wards.
01:23:25.000But the suffering did not stop easily for many as some of the affected people again started to hallucinate the visions of hell almost a month later.
01:23:37.000So while many medical experts and historians claim that such mental health issues could have occurred due to rye ergot fungus, a parasite that latches onto rye crops and also wheat, barley, oats, and wild grains, in today's world this mysterious ill still sparks debate in the medical world.
01:23:55.000But it makes sense if they could do a core sample, if they could do some sort of sample and find ergot or find that there was at least evidence of the environment where ergot could grow well.
01:24:20.000Historians and chemists claim the Greeks were using ergot as a chemical weapon and a psychoactive drug during the celebrations of the Eleusinian Mysteries, which were the secret rituals of the Mystery School of Ulysses and were observed regularly from 1600 BCE to 392 CE. Wow.
01:26:00.000But he was working with it, and I think he got it on his hands, and then he went on a bike ride home, and he realized he was tripping balls.
01:26:47.000I guess that's a whole other world of intrigue.
01:26:52.000They would hire prostitutes to give these guys LSD. So these guys would go to these whorehouses thinking they're just going to have some fun.
01:26:59.000And then all of a sudden they're dosed up with LSD and people are watching them through two-way windows.
01:27:05.000I guess they were trying to figure out a way to break a guy to get his secrets, right?
01:27:13.000I think they tried it as a truth serum, and then they were going to use it to interrogate people on, and then it didn't really work that way.
01:27:19.000And then they were trying to use it to program people's minds, and they did a bunch of experiments with that.
01:27:43.000Now, would you, if this something was like where you're like, you know, I could, you can't do it recreationally, right?
01:27:50.000You got to do it like, you know, like with an expert with you.
01:27:53.000Yeah, I think if in a perfect world we would have centers where you could go and you could do psychedelics under medical supervision with people who are experts who know the right dose, who have a comfortable setting and have medical staff on hand in case anything goes sideways.
01:29:18.000How does Ibogaine reprogram your brain to bypass addiction or to cure addiction?
01:29:25.000I think it just gives you an understanding of where it's coming from, like where your impulsive, ridiculous, self-destructive, I have to gamble every day, where is that coming from?
01:29:34.000And it shows you where it's coming from in some way.
01:29:37.000Ibogaine may work in reversing the effects of opiates on gene expression, with resulting impacts on neuroreceptors, returning them to a pre-addiction condition, which is crazy.
01:29:50.000Furthermore, addictive loops and pathways in the brain are reversed.
01:30:03.000I mean, if you are a person who's addicted to opiates and there's a way that can actually, if that's true, stop the pathway and even reverse it, why aren't we encouraging that?
01:30:13.000That seems like we have a giant problem in this country.
01:30:16.000It's the number one thing that kills young people age 18 to 49 is fentanyl overdose.
01:30:32.000Like, we've all done the cold shower, but like, you know, there's people, it's almost like, you know, the cold will not only reset your brain, but it also, like, with your body, it sends, I don't even know what it does, but it seems like it would work, because I've taken, like, multiple cold showers, and I'm like,
01:30:47.000I do feel like my brain is working better.
01:37:13.000And like, you know, the kettlebells, I was doing that for a while, but To be honest, like on the road, I think I've always gotten the most out of just like jumping rope.
01:42:05.000I got into this kick of writing really late at night and I would drink these sodas.
01:42:09.000They had these crazy small batch sodas they were selling in LA. They were spicy, they had crazy levels of caffeine in them, and they had skulls on the label and shit, and all these wild labels.
01:42:51.000You know, when I was a little kid, my mom used to give us a cup of tea before we went to bed.
01:42:56.000I guess she had like an English thing, like we were little English lords and ladies.
01:42:59.000But I was like, even then I was knowing like, hey, I don't think we're supposed to be drinking this kind of drink right before, maybe hot chocolate or cocoa or something.
01:43:08.000But it's like, you know, you're sitting in your bed, you're buzzing, you know, you're like 12, you know.
01:43:12.000So I was like, I think that's where it started.
01:43:15.000You know, I need that kind of caffeine going there.
01:43:51.000And I was like, this is fucking delicious.
01:43:54.000Your kids, do they like, because these kids, I don't even know, I guess it took with this organic food thing, they love to talk about it, and is there an organic omelet or some kind of stuff like that?
01:44:06.000They don't eat that kind of stuff, right?
01:47:01.000It was like, the sound was perfect, and everybody there, they had a drink maybe, or something like that, but there was really no food or anything like that.
01:48:03.000So everyone's wearing a mask and they're just running in there and stealing shit.
01:48:07.000This stuff is like, honestly, it's like, I never thought this was going to be on the other side of this, but the thing that's really getting me now, and I think you probably will agree, is that like, you know, I don't know, I hate to be hacky and do kind of a joke, but it's like, I didn't know as Americans we have the right to like,
01:48:23.000go to a fast food place and if there's something wrong, we can hop the counter and beat a man to death.
01:53:12.000But I think that this is just a sense of entitlement of people allowed to do whatever they want to do, whenever they want to do it, like driving mopeds on the sidewalk, doing all that kind of stuff.
01:53:23.000Hey, if I feel like driving erratically, I'm going to do it.
01:53:27.000If I feel like walking down the street holding a piece of metal and yelling at people, I'm going to do it.
01:55:46.000But I talked to somebody who, like, you know, like, whatever, who lives there, and I go, so these people are allowed to, you know, put up, like, whatever they want, wherever they want.
01:55:55.000And he goes, yeah, and they really, you know, like, the sad thing is, like, fires.
01:55:59.000You know, like, something will happen, and, like, you know, it could catch fire.
01:56:46.000You know, you might as well do a reenactment in there, you know?
01:56:49.000But, like, they were having, like, people having sex in there and all that, because they were all making jokes about it and everything like that.
01:59:32.000It's one of those where like, you know, you walk out on the boardwalk and you're like, it's immediately a Death Wish movie.
01:59:39.000You know, for some reason there's steam and like there's people coming at you through the steam, you know, fog, weird, you know, scary sounds, a lot of scary, you know, like weird stuff like that.
01:59:51.000We saw quite a few people that looked to be involved in the drug trade.
02:00:10.000But it's funny, like the same thing with Coney Island, when you look at the pictures from the 40s, like a guy wearing his big suit, his bathing suit, whatever, and then you look at these places now and you're like, what happened?
02:02:28.000Whether they realize that or not, that's what they're deciding.
02:02:30.000The only reason why people weren't reclaiming all their property and going back into that area is because they were scared.
02:02:36.000So the problem with that is if you decide that you're righteous and you're doing this for a good reason, what if someone decides that they're righteous and then they come in and take it back from you?
02:02:44.000And then you're just legalizing, stealing through an ideology.
02:02:47.000Like, you think it's okay, capitalism is evil, and fuck the police, and we're gonna run this place on our own.
02:02:53.000But if you notice what happened, they immediately started behaving like warlords.
02:02:58.000They attacked people, they pulled out phones, they beat people up, one person got shot and killed, and then eventually everyone came to their senses.
02:03:12.000I saw a lot of excuses for what was going on there, but the one thing that they, on the news, they especially try and take some of the mean out of it, be like, but a free organic breakfast for all.
02:03:22.000Doesn't matter who you, they give them a cup of granola or something like that.
02:03:39.000Steal the bank and light the fucking police department on fire, and then you're going to eventually become the best society ever, right in the middle of Seattle.
02:03:45.000Well, it's weird how, like, you know, back in the day, like, you know, chain snatching.
02:03:50.000Like, you're on a subway, you know, you're like a group of people and some guy come by and snatch a girl's chain off or something like that.
02:05:27.000That's a good, you know, because a lot of the young ones, they're always like, what's the process?
02:05:32.000And I'm always like, you know, I've gotten the most out of it with writing ideas down, trying to make it as strong as possible, Going on stage, taping it, and then listening to it.
02:06:44.000You said that you would stay up and you would, like, write out, like...
02:06:47.000Yeah, today's the first day I wrote first thing in the morning.
02:06:50.000Because I got up in the morning and I had this, like, a hankering to write, so I sparked up a joint and I wrote first thing in the morning.
02:08:11.000The premise is the hardest, I think, because I, like, my jokes, like, I can change the punchline a million different ways, but it's the, you know, committing to, like, the premise, like, you know, what is this about and how does this fit together?
02:08:24.000That, to me, is the real work of it, but when you say, like, you sit down with pen and paper or on the computer and you're writing, like, I would do that sometimes just to basically go, like, I want to get out every bad idea I have right now and I'm going to just sit here for an hour and And I'm going to just type anything that's happening to me.
02:08:41.000I used to do that when I was really young.
02:08:43.000I was like, I am not writing anything good.
02:08:46.000I'd write in my notebook just to turn the page.
02:08:48.000And I was like, if anything, what it does is it just tells your brain that you're working on this right now and that you're going to focus on it.
02:08:58.000So for me it was good because I'm not a real disciplined guy, but that was something that I really did...
02:09:03.000You know, take to early in comedy of, like, material.
02:09:45.000He was this amazing trumpet player, and he had to practice.
02:09:49.000And so I remember watching that thinking, man, if we had that kind of work ethic with comedy, if we worked on comedy the same way, that obsessive all day long, you'd have to get better.
02:10:01.000Yeah, you have to get better, and you also have to, you know, I don't know what to say, but it's like, you have to look at the joke a million different ways before you realize that, like, you know, okay, this is like, like I said earlier, with chunks of material, like, where else can this go?
02:10:20.000And that's the thing of, like, bringing on stage, and now, like, okay, I want to try it this way, I want to try it this way, I want to try it that way.
02:10:26.000So, To me, that's why when people go like, don't you get bored saying the same thing?
02:10:30.000It's like, no, I'm never saying the same thing.
02:10:43.000I'm coming up on shooting something soon, but I would say that I did that road work probably like five, six years ago or something like that.
02:10:50.000When do you think you'll want to do it?
02:10:54.000I think I'm going to, maybe before the end of the year, maybe beginning of next year, but I know the hour for me has always been tough, getting that much joke without fat in it, but I would say that the half hour I find so interesting.
02:11:09.000I watched Earthquakes half hour and I was like...
02:11:36.000So I was like, the half hour to me seems the right amount of time for people's attention span and also for me with what I do to get out, like, what I want to say and then get out of there.
02:12:10.000You know, a club show, you know, like, because that's what I've done, and I'm coming to the end of this anyhow, so I want, you know, to kind of go out the way I do it.
02:13:38.000I didn't tell you how nervous I was, did I? No.
02:13:40.000I was like, I'm going to be going up there doing jokes, and Joe's crowd, they want to hear the shit, and I'm going to be doing my dumb jokes.
02:14:34.000There's just something exciting about it.
02:14:36.000There is something like when I think people also, you know, when you were touring with Chappelle and stuff like that, these are event shows.
02:14:43.000These are like shows that you tell years, you know, for years about like I was at that show, you know, I was there.
02:14:48.000So for the hardcore fan, these are like amazing times for comedy.
02:14:52.000It's a great time for comedy in general because I think the world genuinely needs things to be mocked right now.
02:14:57.000Because so many things are so off the rails and so crazy on both sides of the political spectrum, the cultural spectrum.
02:15:04.000You know, in terms of, like, the relationship the United States has with the world, things are so bonkers right now that if you're not making fun of things...
02:15:46.000Yeah, that was another thing that Stanhope, he was pretty much the first guy I knew who was England, and he was doing all that kind of stuff.
02:15:54.000He filmed a special in Oslo, didn't he?
02:15:57.000Well, either way, they loved Bill Hicks, and he was definitely the heir apparent to him, rightfully so.
02:17:57.000No, I think when they come over, I think that it kind of blows them away to see what it is as opposed to what they've been doing over there.
02:18:06.000Well, in these weird times, I think this is where comedy becomes actually a valuable function in society, to be able to mock things and joke around and have some fun still.
02:18:16.000Well, dude, you basically have done the hard work for us, so this is another one of those...
02:18:21.000I wanted to say this to you for a while, but it's like...
02:18:25.000Years ago when I did Letterman, how impressive that was to both friends and family, and I told people I was coming on this, it's the same reaction.
02:18:57.000It's a fun and exciting time in a lot of ways.
02:19:00.000I think people are going to come out of this on the other end more aware of the pitfalls of certain types of thinking and behavior and what we tolerate and what we don't tolerate.
02:19:11.000There needs to be some sort of order in society.
02:19:13.000It doesn't mean you're bad because you want some order.
02:19:16.000It just means you want people to be peaceful.
02:19:18.000And that could be worked out, but there's a lot of shit that needs to be worked out in this country that just doesn't get addressed.
02:19:23.000Like, why is all this crime originating in these areas that have been impoverished forever, and why aren't we helping them?
02:19:29.000Why aren't we helping fix those spots where all this crime is coming from?
02:19:34.000And there's very little effort put into doing that, but so much effort put into helping other countries.
02:20:07.000How do we do it to make this place safer and better for everybody that grows up there?
02:20:11.000Well, I know in New York, like, you know, kids on, like, minibikes and ATVs and stuff like that, that, like, until you've been circled by a group of teenagers on an ATV, like, you really, it really does, like, you feel that moment of, like, you know, this is like the wolves and you're the wounded buffalo.
02:20:28.000And it's like, only a matter, you can turn towards one, but the other one's gonna, so you really have this feeling of almost prey, I guess you could say, you know?
02:20:37.000You know, when I was a kid, you know, we had an area to do that, but these kids, they live in the city, so I guess this is their, you know, like, area to do it, but it still, it's like, it is terrifying.
02:20:45.000And I guess, you know, part of that's being old, the other part of it's like what you just said, that like, why is this going on?
02:25:30.000I feel like my knee, like, I have a knee injury, so it's like, I just feel like my whole leg is like, can't feel it for a minute, you know?
02:25:38.000And then it goes, like, numb, and I'm like, oh, it's my knee.
02:27:11.000They'll show the person, like, I have to take a shower, I'm going to see a doctor now.
02:27:14.000So they'll show them get up and, like, blur the areas, but because they're already kind of blurred, you know, physically, that, like, you're like, what are you, you know, and then you'll see them shower and things like that.
02:27:26.000So it is definitely not an OnlyFans moment, you know?
02:27:30.000It's, um, human beings are so strange in that there's certain, like, patterns of behavior that people get stuck in.
02:27:40.000Where they just can't stop eating, or they can't stop gambling.
02:28:01.000The calculating aspects of the human brain, all the emotions and all the different hormones and all the cascade of neural functions, all these things that are happening simultaneously.
02:28:12.000And then something leads you to just want to stuff your face all the time.
02:28:21.000It's just a wild thing that the human brain can vary so much.
02:28:25.000You know, you could be Elon Musk, who's running five different corporations, or you could be a guy who's, like, sitting on a couch who can't shit.
02:32:29.000Would you have the opener wheel you out, or would you have one that's remote controlled?
02:32:34.000I would like to do, well, you know, with me and the smoking, so I'll probably have a tracheotomy by then, but I would love to do crowd work, like, where are you from?
02:33:06.000But, yeah, no, I could totally see that happening.
02:33:09.000You know, I bought a new walker for my mom, and, like, the one that we got was, like, off-road, so, like, now she can really go anywhere, so it's kind of cool.
02:33:18.000Like, you know, it's got these big mag wheels on it.
02:33:20.000Like, she's, like, basically, it's like an APC of, like, walkers, you know?
02:33:24.000Like, she can, like, handle, like, you know...
02:33:26.000Remember those things that everybody would scoot around on, like a hoverboard with a handle?
02:35:18.000For all of you who've come to see me, thank you so much for...
02:35:25.000Basically, well, thank you, Joe, for getting the word out on me, and I appreciate it, because they've definitely come down, and they've said, you've got to go on, Joe, and, you know, I'd love to hear you on Joe, and Joe talks about you, so thanks for, you know, basically...
02:35:37.000You're one of the best comics alive, man, and please, people, go see him.