In this episode, I sit down with a good friend of mine to talk about our current political and economic system and how we can fix it. We talk about how we got to where we are now, why we need to fix it, and what we should be focusing on in order to get things back on track. We also talk about what it means to be a libertarian and how important it is to have a system that is based on principles and principles that are not based on money and power. We also discuss the current state of the economy and how it affects our political system, and why we should all be worried about the future of our economy and our financial system. I hope you enjoy this episode and tweet me if you liked it! Timestamps: 0:00:00 - What's the best way to fix our current system? 6:30 - How should we fix our economic and political system 7:00 - How can we fix the economic system we're living in? 8:20 - What should we do to make things better? 9:40 - What are the best things we can do to fix the economy? 10:30 11:15 - How do we get rid of Wall Street? 12:00 | What are we running out of money? 13:30 | Should we go back to a free market? 14:40 15:40 | How much money should we have? 16: What s the best thing we can we give to the poor? 17:30 // 17:00 // 18: Should we get? 19: What is the best bank account? 21:40 // 22:00 Is it possible to get back? 25:00 Do we have a free college loan? 26:00 Should we have free money for college? 27:00 Can we get a student loan forgiveness? 29:00 What s a good deal? 32:00 Are we all a socialist? ? 35:00 How do you know what s the worst thing we're going to get out of a free university? 36:30 Is there a good thing we should we should get a free loan to help us get a loan to pay for a college loan to get a good loan to go to a good life? 33:00 Does it get better than $10k in student loan to buy a car?
00:00:27.000When you go over stuff, like when you talk about libertarian ideas and you look at the way the government is run now, do you run through that thought process?
00:00:38.000Maybe the only way to do it is the way that we're doing it right now.
00:00:42.000Yeah, I try my best to always do that.
00:00:46.000I mean, I'm guilty of not doing it, but I try my best to always be like, okay, well, maybe, theoretically, they know something I don't know, which kind of means this is the best way to do it.
00:00:56.000Or maybe I'm just wrong and my theoretical model couldn't work and this is the best.
00:01:00.000But try to give the toughest arguments against it and then go like, okay, but we still didn't need to kill a million Iraqis.
00:01:29.000And the only way to do it right would be to create a more ethical, moral, logical system that's actually based on constitutional rights and how the government is supposed to be.
00:01:41.000In terms of like the kind of power they're supposed to have versus what they're always constantly trying to acquire.
00:01:47.000But if you did that, how much would you have to blow the system up?
00:01:53.000Like what period of vulnerability would we have while we're trying to re-establish a new system?
00:01:58.000And how would we know if the system could even work correctly without being influenced by money and power and all the shit that's fucked it up for what we've got right now?
00:02:11.000I think that, like, what Ron Paul used to always say was basically, I mean, these are my words, not his, but it was basically his plan was he goes, end all the worst shit first.
00:02:20.000Like, end all the most evil shit first.
00:02:22.000So the first thing is, like, stop bombing third world countries.
00:02:26.000Stop locking people in jail for victimless crimes.
00:02:28.000Stop doing, like, stop bailing out billionaires and corporations and stuff.
00:02:33.000You know, you don't start with, like, well, okay, if there's a vulnerable population that's, like, dependent on this government program, get rid of it tomorrow.
00:02:40.000You know, so, like, you try to do that, and then the more of the corruption that you roll back, you're gonna see, you know, like, less wealth being extracted from regular American people and going to special interests, kind of build that up over time.
00:03:07.000Well, it's kind of fascinating when you think that this is the only country that has been really established as like a colony that went on to take over the world.
00:03:17.000And it did it inside of 300 years, which is pretty fucking wild.
00:03:22.000Yeah, that's the most wild part is the time span.
00:03:26.000Because going from being a republic to an empire has happened before, but we're the most powerful empire in world history, at least in terms of raw power, like the technology, the level of wealth, all that shit.
00:03:47.000When you see like the squad, did you see that debate that she was having with those bankers where they were talking about eliminating fossil fuels?
00:03:55.000She made me root for the bankers, Joe.
00:03:58.000It is quite a feat to get me to say, you know, I think the head of Goldman Sachs is making a good point.
00:04:03.000Imagine that she was dangling the carrot of the $10,000 we gave back in student loan debt forgiveness, that those people are going to have bank accounts.
00:04:13.000And those people that got that free money, I'm going to take that free money out of your bank.
00:04:17.000That was the immediate thing that she dangled, which lets you know some of the incentive involved in giving student loan debt.
00:04:26.000It's not really that we want to help these people.
00:04:29.000It's that now we will have influence over those people for voting.
00:04:33.000Oh, this was clearly like just throwing a carrot like pre-midterm elections.
00:04:39.000If you're going to really absolve student loan debt, if someone's $700,000 in the hole or whatever, what's like worst case scenario?
00:04:46.000If someone goes to med school, someone gets a PhD.
00:04:48.000Oh yeah, if they do all of that, probably $300,000, $400,000 at least.
00:04:51.000Yeah, and then it compounds with interest over the decades.
00:04:54.000Like I was reading a story about this woman who took out $150,000 in student loans and she hasn't been able to pay them back and now she's $250,000 in the hole.
00:05:53.000And that no one at the colleges, even.
00:05:55.000Like, the fact, I mean, obviously the politicians are, like, soulless and the bankers are just trying to make money, but that no one in the university Whoever has the basic human decency to look at one of these kids who goes, hey, you know you're spending $150,000 on a gender studies major?
00:06:23.000You'll teach this to other people until no one's signing up for this anymore.
00:06:27.000You'll learn useless shit that isn't even true.
00:06:30.000And then you'll teach it to other people who want to learn this useless shit to teach it to other people.
00:06:34.000And let's just hope we keep getting new investors into this thing until it all goes belly up.
00:06:39.000And what's really wild is then most, especially tech companies, they're so progressive and so liberal, and they're kind of trapped in that ideology which can hamper what they want to do and what they're allowed to do with their company because you get activists who are employees.
00:06:58.000So your employees become, and they go straight from universities Where they're indoctrinated into this ideology and then they permeate these tech companies.
00:07:31.000Well, I mean, it just – and if you think about, like, with the tech censorship stuff, if you think about, like, in, like, 2014, 2015, this basically didn't exist.
00:07:40.000This isn't that long ago that you kind of could say whatever you wanted to.
00:08:17.000Yeah, I'm completely against any of the censorship.
00:08:19.000I think it's an awful slippery slope to go down.
00:08:21.000It's a giant slippery slope and it shouldn't be navigated by people who are, again, indoctrinated into this system that they get straight out of universities and they're locked into these progressive ideas.
00:08:39.000Originally, back then, why they weren't kicking people off of their platforms is because, well, there's no incentive for them to kick people off the platform.
00:08:46.000The whole point is they want people to be on their platform.
00:08:49.000There'd certainly be no incentive to kick really popular people off of their platform.
00:08:54.000That's how they get people onto their platform.
00:08:57.000And there is a lot of truth to the fact that a lot of these kids coming out of the universities...
00:10:30.000So what he was getting in trouble for with the government was being correct, which is really crazy, because you're talking about a health pandemic.
00:10:38.000So you're talking about decisions that could...
00:10:43.000Possibly either save people's lives, ruin people's lives, save people's health, ruin people's health.
00:10:49.000The only way you're going to know what's what is if you get accurate data.
00:10:52.000So if there's a guy who's talking about data, but the data is inconvenient to whatever the narrative is, if it's because it's inconvenient because the pharmaceutical companies fund 75% of all the ads on television, and how many campaigns, and how much money do they have invested in this,
00:11:07.000and does the government actually have a piece of the Moderna vaccine?
00:11:12.000Well, there was, so Rand Paul, I don't know if you saw one of these moments where he, it was months ago now, but where he was grilling Fauci in one of those Rand Paul versus Fauci moments, and he said that they found out through a Freedom of Information Act that it was something like $135 million in royalties had been paid out To scientists on the NIH,
00:11:31.000at the NIH, from pharmaceutical companies.
00:11:34.000And he asks Fauci straight up, he goes, have you received any money?
00:11:37.000Will you disclose all the money you've received?
00:11:39.000And Fauci, in a roundabout way, you know, is like, well, Dr. Paul, I think I may have had one royalty for very small money, but now I don't need, the law doesn't require me to reveal that.
00:12:04.000But to your point with Alex Berenson's stuff, like, look, even if he was wrong, which he was right a lot more than he was wrong, put his track record up against Fauci's track record over the last couple years, he was right way more than Fauci was.
00:12:15.000But even if he was wrong, theoretically, He was making data-based arguments.
00:12:21.000They justified tech censorship with, well, what if someone's just a Nazi preaching hate?
00:12:28.000Or what if someone's intentionally spreading false information to change an election?
00:12:34.000He was just like a guy who worked for the New York Times.
00:12:37.000He was just a guy who was presenting sound arguments.
00:12:41.000Even if he got some things wrong, the idea that we would shut that down is a really creepy, very creepy thing.
00:12:48.000And then that it's coming from the White House, that it's coming directly from them.
00:12:52.000This isn't just like some random, you know, like it's not just that, oh, there's a company with a woke ideology who doesn't think you should be allowed to do this on their platform, like the kind of almost the libertarian argument that some people make.
00:13:07.000Here you have the government who's saying, silence our number one critic to our policies of lockdowns and vaccine mandates and all this stuff.
00:13:34.000The FBI. Told us there was going to be this misinformation, this Russian misinformation coming.
00:13:40.000Now, I'm not saying the FBI told him specifically, you have to turn down the Hunter Biden story.
00:13:46.000But when you asked him about the Hunter Biden story, the first thing he said was, well, the FBI. So clearly at least he took it that way.
00:13:54.000And then when the story came out, the FBI and the CIA and all these intelligence people are saying, this has all the earmarks of Russian disinformation.
00:14:03.000And Joe Biden's bragging about this at the time.
00:14:06.000So if nothing else, they at least clearly sent a signal to these companies that, like, this is the one.
00:14:40.000Yeah, it's a weird situation where they're kind of asking you to have this level of expertise in a thing that is not your area of expertise, or do you just have some faith in the system and go, well, I mean, this is the FBI telling me this, and if they're saying it's Russian misinformation,
00:14:57.000then I don't want to put it out there if that could affect the results of an election, and so maybe you err on that side.
00:15:04.000Imagine if you've been warned, and then it is Russian disinformation, but you also allow people to share it, and it turns out to actually affect the election.
00:15:12.000It swings the election the other way, Trump wins again, and then we find out it's a hoax, and we find out he really is in cahoots with Russia.
00:15:33.000Right, and there's an interesting thing like that because, and there's polling that shows this, like, I forget exactly what it is, but it's a very large percentage of Democrat voters still believe Donald Trump was in bed with Russia, even though the investigation found no evidence that there was any conspiracy or anything like that,
00:15:50.000and in fact anyone paying attention to it.
00:15:52.000The whole thing was just completely orchestrated to box Donald Trump in.
00:15:57.000Again, I'm not a Trump supporter, if anyone needs that disclaimer, but I'm just saying, objectively, he was framed for treason, essentially, for being a traitor to his country, working with Russia involved in a conspiracy to change the election results of 2016. Also,
00:16:16.000Once the investigations were over, there was no exoneration publicly.
00:16:22.000No, they just kind of in the last year of his administration stopped talking about it as much, never basically acknowledged that we had been saying Trump-Russia collusion for all this time.
00:16:30.000After the report fell apart, they moved immediately over to the Ukraine gate thing, which is very interesting given the context of everything going on now.
00:16:39.000And then they just pulled it up again in the presidential election of 2020 when this laptop came out and they were like, oh, this is Russia again.
00:17:01.000I don't believe in censorship, especially when it comes to censoring a story that's from the second oldest newspaper in the fucking country.
00:17:32.000I think the orange man scared the fuck out of everybody and they all acted irrationally and I think that's one of the things that broke mass media mainstream media in terms of like television media and news and It was just this this hate for Trump was so overwhelming It's like you had to say that he was bad no matter what the story was.
00:17:51.000He pissed off a lot of people in a In an unbelievable way.
00:17:57.000But he also, I mean, he really pissed off people in like the intelligence agencies and people at very high levels for a bunch of different reasons.
00:18:04.000But like that stuff, it's like the same thing with the Alex Berenson thing.
00:18:07.000It's like, okay, but then you censored that story and you turned out to be wrong.
00:18:14.000And so now while you, in theory, may have been correcting for this one mistake, which was, oh, Russian misinformation could sway an election.
00:18:21.000What ended up happening was that the intelligence community interfered in the election and that they did not allow this story—the intelligence agencies and big tech interfered in the 2020 election.
00:18:35.000They silenced this story, which was a newsworthy story.
00:18:39.000No matter how much weight you put into it, whether it's—is it—should it change your vote that the son of the president, then former vice president, is clearly— Selling his last name for political, you know, his political influence to make money from foreign governments.
00:18:56.000I don't know how big a deal you should think that is, but that is a story.
00:19:01.000That's something that if someone broke that, that's a story there.
00:19:03.000And then there were questions about what did Biden know about this?
00:19:10.000Bobulinski, something like that, I think was Hunter Biden's partner.
00:19:13.000He testified, or not testified, but he was interviewed by the FBI. We just found this out last month.
00:19:19.000That he was interviewed by the FBI and told them this.
00:19:21.000Told them that, yes, I've met with Joe Biden several times.
00:19:24.000He knew about all these business dealings.
00:19:26.000Well, Joe Biden is claiming I've never talked to my son about his business.
00:19:29.000This is at least worthy to print, this story.
00:19:32.000And to have Twitter shut down one of the biggest newspapers in the country, and then make it so you couldn't share the link.
00:19:39.000And then Facebook, as Zuckerberg said, I don't know.
00:19:43.000Lowered the signal in a significant way, I think was the way he put it.
00:19:47.000I don't remember what he said the way he said it, but essentially he admitted that there's some complex shadow banning type mechanism that's in place for information, you know, and fucking the whole thing's so complicated and I do not envy them at all.
00:20:06.000Imagine being someone at Facebook and the FBI tells you that.
00:20:17.000And even if you look at the way that the Congress talked to him when they hauled him in front of Congress several times, I mean, they like really kind of shake him down.
00:20:26.000They're like, what are you doing about this?
00:21:20.000It's like, because all the people who are like selling the war in Ukraine right now and how we have to send more weapons in and we have to crack down harder on Russia and be more involved in the war.
00:21:30.000It's like all the same people who sold the war in Iraq.
00:21:32.000I mean, not all of them, but a whole bunch of them are like the exact same people.
00:21:37.000And those same people were complaining about misinformation.
00:21:41.000And they're like the ones who sold the war in Iraq.
00:21:43.000And then they go, okay, remember how I told you that Saddam Hussein was in bed with Osama bin Laden and he had nukes that he was going to detonate in Kansas?
00:21:50.000Well, let me tell you what's going on now.
00:21:52.000You're like, how do you get to tell me what's going on now?
00:22:32.000That get funded by the weapons manufacturers and then those think tanks come up with pieces about why we need to go fight a war and then they go and lobby the politicians to support some other war.
00:22:43.000It's like Yeah, it's something out of like a crazy movie.
00:22:48.000And you could see that same thing in response to disease.
00:24:04.000It was during the lockdown regime before Operation Warp Speed.
00:24:10.000So before the vaccine regime when we were still in the lockdown regime.
00:24:14.000And this video, I haven't seen go as viral, but I played it on my podcast.
00:24:18.000Part of the problem, if you go look, it's in like one of the last five episodes if anyone wants to check it out.
00:24:23.000But he was saying, point blank, during the COVID lockdowns, that when people were going, well, maybe we could get a vaccine and that'll get us out of these lockdowns.
00:24:32.000And he was like, no, no, no, because even if we got a vaccine, it would take at least two years of trials before we would know whether this vaccine was safe.
00:24:41.000And then sometimes vaccines can have a negative effect Actually, you're worse at fighting off the virus afterward.
00:24:47.000And he kind of breaks down this whole thing.
00:24:49.000Then all of a sudden, once Operation Warp Speed starts, and then once Biden gets in, you're not allowed to talk about that anymore.
00:24:55.000And in fact, when I was on with you, it was a couple times ago.
00:24:59.000It was the clip that you got all this heat for, and Fauci even responded.
00:25:04.000And essentially what you were saying was like, hey, if you're a young person, just be really healthy.
00:25:58.000And it's also, if you talk to virologists about respiratory illnesses, you can't contain them.
00:26:04.000Can you stop yourself from getting it?
00:26:07.000Yeah, if you completely isolate from humanity and you stay on a ranch and you never leave and you get your own well water and you wait this bitch out.
00:26:16.000But other than that, if you're going to be in contact with human beings, And especially something that you can spread before you know you have it, which apparently is the case.
00:26:26.000Like, people could have a mild form of it and be spreading it, and then other people can die from it.
00:26:30.000And you might not be affected by it at all, but the other people that get it might die.
00:26:43.000But why didn't we put that same sort of focus and same sort of pressure on people to take care of their health?
00:26:52.000Because that makes a big fucking difference.
00:26:54.000A giant difference, as big as anything, is whether or not you're healthy and you have a robust immune system that can fight off any kind of infection.
00:27:02.000Not just this one, but all the ones that people get constantly and die from.
00:28:08.000Like no one ever brings up the fact that like, well, if we actually want to have a solution to the health problem in this country, well, we kind of know what the solution is.
00:28:17.000Solution is to eat good and exercise and things like this and don't do drugs, or at least the unhealthy ones.
00:28:35.000Well, you know, I mean, you could find a world in which that would be encouraged, where it could be encouraged in a positive way and it would really literally change people's lives.
00:28:44.000Like they would start doing it and start feeling better and then that would become a new way of life for them.
00:28:49.000And then they would look back a year, two, three years from now with so much more energy and so much healthier and feel so much better and go, God, why didn't someone tell me this earlier?
00:29:00.000This is just such a fucking fascinating time to watch people's thought processes and how quickly people are to join the herd mentality and to not question things, especially the people that put all their faith in some of the Companies that have been shown to be the most deceptive and profited the most from that deception and have been penalized,
00:29:23.000even though they've been penalized financially, if you look at the gain versus loss, it's not even a slap on the wrist because they were still allowed to make billions of dollars from pharmaceutical medications that killed millions of people.
00:29:38.000Yeah, and then they're just doing math.
00:29:41.000They're like, okay, well, we pay this $5 billion fine, but we make $40 billion in profits.
00:29:45.000Well, that's what Abramson said when I had John Abramson on, who's a guy who's litigated against pharmaceutical companies in the Vioxx case.
00:29:50.000He got the internal memos where they said there's going to be all these complications, but we will do well.
00:29:57.000They knew the health complications that were going to be associated with this medication that wound up killing at least 50,000 people, which is fucking wild.
00:30:06.000And they made like 12 billion, they got penalized a few billion, and so they made profit.
00:30:12.000They made profit off of a disease which they pushed through knowing that they were hiding data.
00:30:21.000And then people were willing to trust them.
00:30:23.000And then, you know, when you look at things like when they had these COVID passports in all of these big cities, you know, the thing that's so crazy is like, so then they go, okay, so the government is basically forcing you to consume this pharmaceutical product or you can't participate in the society that you live in.
00:30:40.000And then all these people get forced into it.
00:30:43.000It's clear as day that this did nothing.
00:30:46.000I mean, they put the vaccine passports into effect in New York City before the Omicron variant.
00:30:51.000And when Omicron came through, it just wiped through.
00:31:24.000Look, whenever there's a pandemic or whenever there's a new thing, there's a crisis, there's always going to be mistakes made.
00:31:32.000And it's whether or not we learn from those mistakes and whether or not you have a healthy distrust for narratives that are being pushed by people who have a financial incentive for these narratives to be correct.
00:31:45.000Here's another one we don't talk about.
00:33:06.000And this one, to your point though, I would say I don't think there was anything malicious about this.
00:33:10.000I do think doctors were trying to save people, and then they quickly started realizing, our patients are doing really bad when we put them on these ventilators, and then they backed off, and they were like, let's not do this anymore.
00:33:19.000So to your point, yeah, mistakes will be made, and I think that one was an honest mistake.
00:33:24.000But the point is that at least the doctors then corrected that.
00:33:27.000And then went, okay, we're not going to do that anymore.
00:33:29.000We're going to wait until we absolutely need to, to put them on these ventilators.
00:33:33.000But there seems to be with all of these other, like, major policies from the federal government and from a lot of these state governments that there's just kind of...
00:33:42.000You know, there's like no admission, no recognition.
00:33:44.000And I mean, I remember like when Texas here, when you guys first opened back up and just ended all of the COVID restrictions, all the blue state governors were saying, this is so reckless and insane and people are going to die.
00:33:58.000And then the death rate was no worse than in any of these other blue states.
00:34:04.000Everyone who wants a point to Florida, like Florida, what they did, they had the highest rate of death in COVID. Yeah, but they have the oldest people.
00:34:13.000And if you age adjust, it's no different than California.
00:34:25.000But these people that did things that were not good for society, were not good for small businesses, were not good for people's mental health, were not good for the development of children's language skills, like all these things were wrong, man.
00:34:39.000Well, look, I mean, there's so much stuff.
00:34:41.000It's going to be like a generation before we even see the damage from the lockdowns.
00:34:47.000And we won't even be able to know for sure what exactly, like trace it back to what exactly was the damage from the lockdowns.
00:34:53.000But just think about what a nightmare, you know.
00:34:55.0002020, I mean, there were riots in that year that were obviously about the George Floyd thing, but were very related to the lockdowns as well.
00:35:02.000Like, it wasn't a coincidence that after three months of being locked in your home with no bar, no sports, no friend's house, no work, you know, then all of a sudden people were rioting.
00:35:14.000Because cops have done, you know, fucked up shit a lot of times before, and this one led to national, you know, riots.
00:35:19.000That was all part of the cost of lockdowns.
00:35:22.000So the economy, the inflation that we're dealing with right now was a huge part of the lockdowns.
00:35:28.000And it was partly because they printed trillions of dollars as a result of being like, well, what are we going to do to make sure we're not in a depression if we just stop the economy right now?
00:35:37.000So, of course, the answer is always, well, we'll print trillions of dollars, hand out most of that to big corporations and give some crumbs to the American people.
00:36:19.000But really, I mean, in hindsight at this point, looking back at it, that if the government had just said, look, there's this virus, this nasty upper respiratory virus that's coming over here, And we think that if you're in very bad health,
00:36:35.000because by March, it was very clear in the data of who was dying from this.
00:36:40.000It was very clear that it was old and sick people.
00:37:05.000No, but I'm just saying, if you were being honest and not focusing on the outliers and actually looking at, like, what we can learn from this data, they could have just said, look, if you are at risk, we really recommend you isolate yourself.
00:37:35.000Just doing that and not locking down the economy and not having all of these crazy restrictions would have...
00:37:42.000It's unquestionably been a much, much better way to handle COVID. Because look, from all these states, if you look at the lockdown states versus the non-lockdown states or the lockdown countries versus the non-lockdown countries, if you look at the mask mandate counties versus the non-mask mandate counties,
00:37:58.000there's You can't draw any conclusion from any of them.
00:38:01.000The truth is that this virus just moved the way it was gonna move.
00:38:04.000And so all you were doing was just destroying people's lives.
00:38:08.000You were just adding more of a cost than the virus itself was gonna add, which was already significant.
00:38:14.000And here's another thing they never did.
00:38:16.000When they got data and the data was pretty clear that a large percentage of the people in the ICU for COVID were deficient in vitamin D. And this is not saying that vitamin D is going to prevent you from getting COVID, but it 100% will increase the power of your immune system.
00:38:32.000Vitamin D deficiency is a real problem with people's overall metabolic health.
00:38:36.000And there's a large percentage of our country because we stay indoors all the time, we don't do things, we're not active outside.
00:38:43.000Vitamin D is a hormone and your body produces it from the sun and that's the best way to get it.
00:38:48.000But if you're not getting it that way, you can supplement.
00:38:52.000And it's a definite best second choice, and it really helps, and it makes a big fucking difference.
00:38:58.000It makes a big difference in everything, in muscle development, brain function, like it's a real fucking problem with human beings.
00:39:26.000Remember the fucking guy wakeboarding?
00:39:29.000These people are out of their fucking minds.
00:39:31.000And if they just did that, then I would know at least you are taking measures based on data.
00:39:37.000To try to help people and protect people.
00:39:39.000And just the insane thing is that they all accuse people like us, who talk about it like this, of spreading misinformation throughout the whole time.
00:39:48.000Meanwhile, the people who say that you should stay inside, they don't get accused of spreading misinformation.
00:39:56.000The people like the President of the United States and Dr. Fauci, the head of the pandemic response, who say, if you get the vaccine, you won't get COVID and you won't spread it.
00:40:16.000Or the people that spread that story about folks that were having overdoses of ivermectin.
00:40:25.000And so they were being rushed to the hospitals.
00:40:26.000They had no room for gunshot patients because so many people were taking ivermectin.
00:40:31.000A total 100% fabrication and lie that was in Rolling Stone that Rachel Maddow tweeted and then she doubled down on it afterwards after it was proven.
00:40:42.000We looked at the photo and we're like, why are those people wearing coats?
00:40:48.000Well, it also just, if you just had anyone who knew anything, I'm not a doctor or anything, but if you know anyone who knows anything about it, you would just look at that like I did the second I read that story, go, that doesn't sound right.
00:40:58.000Because ivermectin is known for being a very safe drug.
00:41:01.000Whether the argument is that it helps with COVID or not, it's the reason why at the beginning doctors were giving it to people is because they were kind of like, well, this may help or it may not, but it's definitely not a dangerous drug to take.
00:41:12.000It's on the World Health Organization's list of most important medicines.
00:41:44.000That might have worked on some people at the moment.
00:41:46.000Where people are like, oh my god, these idiots are taking horse paste.
00:41:49.000But now, given the amount of time that's gone on, what it's done, really, is it's eroded significantly people's respect and people's trust in mainstream news.
00:42:18.000I remember, like, when Donald Trump was running for president in 2016, and the people in the corporate press, who I know some of them, and they'd be saying these things like...
00:42:28.000They'd be like, he's just calling us fake news and liars and all of this.
00:42:31.000And, like, how is this resonating with so many people?
00:42:33.000And they were, like, completely like...
00:43:13.000But man, if they think that the people in 2016 didn't trust the corporate press, after this, the amount of people who will never, will never look at CNN again, will never look at the New York Times again.
00:43:27.000As if there's any pretense of even your pretending to tell the truth.
00:43:40.000Well, I think what CNN's trying to do now is rebuild.
00:43:42.000And they're trying to become a source of objective news.
00:43:45.000And I think this new guy recognizes the mistakes of...
00:43:49.000You're allowing editorials by some of the dumbest fucking people on television, and people that are only there because they were hired.
00:43:56.000One of the beautiful things about, whether it's Breaking Points with Crystal and Sagar, who is my favorite show, one of the best points about it is there's no one running that but them.
00:44:09.000You're getting objective information from people that you trust.
00:44:13.000They're gathering up everything they can find and they can give an assessment based on their understanding of these issues and then they debate it and they talk about it and they go over it back and forth.
00:45:25.000But what gives me hope about those two, Crystal and Sager, is that they are a right-wing populist and a left-wing populist, and yet they're very good friends, and they get along great, and they have respectful conversations about things.
00:45:36.000And you actually realize that they have a lot of overlap.
00:46:14.000You know what J.P. Morgan Chase and Goldman Sachs or the Federal Reserve, what they love is when left-wing America and right-wing America are at each other's throats and they're just raking in billions of dollars in profits because no one's looking at them.
00:46:28.000But if you really think about the things that most people care about, like most regular Americans care about the most, is they're like, you know, My healthcare is, like, really unaffordable.
00:46:40.000You know, groceries just went through the roof.
00:46:59.000It helped all of the people that got the big corporations who got all that bailout money when the Federal Reserve printed $6 trillion in 2020. It was really good for them.
00:47:35.000And those culture war issues, that's the most important thing that you're saying.
00:47:38.000And this is something that people need to get in their head, that these culture war issues that we're seeing in the news every day, there is an element of distraction about that.
00:47:49.000No matter how much you think these issues are important, they are important.
00:47:57.000But they're not talking about them because they're important.
00:48:00.000They're talking about them because they know this will solidify people's adherence to the ideology, whether it's the right-wing ideology or the left-wing ideology.
00:48:08.000When you have people like Stacey Abrams saying that a fetal heartbeat is an illusion, like how did she say it?
00:49:42.000But anyway, you ever see, to the point of the culture wars as a distraction, you ever see, like, you know in those, like, nexus charts where you can chart, like, words that are used in mainstream, like, big newspapers and stuff?
00:49:55.000So you could chart, like, a word in the New York Times and how many times it's used.
00:49:58.000So, you know, Washington Post or whatever.
00:50:00.000If you take any of these, like, woke...
00:50:03.000Take the term racism, and you put it in a nexus chart, and they'll show you throughout the years how many times the term racism is used in the New York Times.
00:50:12.000And it's like this, and then around like 2011, 2012, it goes way up.
00:50:46.000Around that time, and it was right toward Obama's second term, what changed was that all of a sudden the woke shit went from being shit that was taught, like critical race theory, and this stuff was taught in college universities, but all of a sudden it had the backing of all of the biggest, most powerful corporations in the world,
00:51:03.000and all of the political class, and all of it just got pumped in.
00:51:06.000And the theory kind of is that what had happened right then in 2010 was Was you had these huge – this big left-wing populist movement and this big right-wing populist movement.
00:51:19.000You had the Occupy movement and the Tea Party movement.
00:51:21.000And they were kind of started over the same thing, which were the banker ballots.
00:51:27.000Like the first Tea Party – like things were started over the Ron Paul campaigns and the TARP. That was like when the first tea parties broke out.
00:51:35.000And then the Occupy thing was in direct response to the banker bailouts and all of this stuff.
00:52:14.000You're the whites versus the blacks, the gays versus the straights, the trans versus the cis.
00:52:19.000And now you look at it, and you see the gay pride parade floats, and there's a Bank of America float.
00:52:26.000And it just seems to me like these big banks essentially bought off the left.
00:52:31.000With all this woke shit, completely distracted them from where their eyes were on the prize, and then turned the left and right against each other, where now they're all fighting.
00:52:40.000So to your point, it's not that what they're fighting about doesn't necessarily mean anything.
00:52:43.000Some of them are very important issues, but none of them affect the bottom line for the most powerful people in our society.
00:52:49.000And what are the bankers doing now since those banker bailouts?
00:52:51.000They got a whole new round of bailouts in 2020. They're raking in profits still.
00:52:57.000Nothing was ever addressed about that whole corrupt system.
00:53:01.000So do you think that there was a concerted effort to do this?
00:53:06.000Like, how do you think something like that happens?
00:53:07.000If you think that there's this ramp up and it's been proven by these studies that if you look at the words, like, is it a function of people graduating from these universities and taking these jobs in these companies and deciding to push this agenda because they think that social justice is important?
00:53:25.000Because they do see, you know, these opponents of Obama as being these racist people that are like this is like underbelly of society that we weren't totally aware of.
00:54:13.000And again, those nexus charts, they're not even like studies.
00:54:15.000They're just mapping the word and how many times it's used.
00:54:18.000But there is no question that amongst the most powerful forces in media, there was a concerted effort to do this.
00:54:27.000And my guess is that it's much less likely that that came from the 20-year-old interns than that that came from some power source up at the top.
00:54:35.000And I think there was an effort to do this.
00:54:37.000And I think it came from the very top.
00:54:39.000And this has been going on, by the way, for a long time.
00:54:42.000Back in the day, this is what they did to the right wing in this country.
00:54:46.000This is what National Review did when they turned the right wing into culture warriors, when they never were before.
00:54:51.000The old Robert Taft, who was known as Mr. Republican, his whole thing was like non-interventionist foreign policy, Sound money, some protectionism, so you protect American jobs and stuff like that.
00:55:06.000It was all this old-school right-wing thing, and then National Review, and all this new right rose up in the 60s, and they were like, no, no, no, no, listen.
00:56:48.000There were people in there that were 100% unhinged.
00:56:50.000I think there were some people in there that had they gotten their hands on Mike Pence or something like that, like something very ugly could have happened.
00:56:58.000I'm just saying that, like, those people, even had they done something to Mike Pence or something like that, would have been shut down by – I mean, the military would have come in, the National Guard would have come in.
00:57:09.000They were never a real threat to take over the United States of America and implement fascism.
00:57:13.000My point is that these people that I'm talking about are really powerful and actually affecting the lives of everyday Americans.
00:57:20.000And my other thing is that a lot of those people in January 6th weren't that guy.
00:57:24.000And were just people kind of in the crowd who entered the building.
00:57:27.000And also, what the hell was going on with Mike Epps and how does it make any sense that he is being...
00:58:17.000I know that that day, and I know that point blank, it was Ray, the head of the FBI, and one other woman who is like, I think one of the top people in the Justice Department, were straight up asked in congressional testimony if there were any FBI agents or people working with the FBI involved in She would not respond.
00:59:56.000And to this day, I still hear people saying that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.
01:00:00.000I'm like, you're out of your fucking mind or misinformed or under-informed or purposely ignorant because you want it to be Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.
01:00:09.000The more you read about—you ever talk to Oliver Stone?
01:00:12.000No, I've never talked to him, but I've watched a lot of his stuff.
01:00:47.000I mean, it's incredible that that guy was this, and still is, this genius filmmaker who also is incredibly well informed about certain things.
01:01:05.000Yeah, also really worthwhile is watching his interviews with Putin, that series of interviews that he did, particularly considering what's going on right now, which is like, to me, the most important thing in the world, and this is like the next thing where now, you know like how kinda now me and you could talk about,
01:01:24.000like you could talk about, I tweet, I put things on YouTube about like the vaccine, you know, and negative effects of the vaccine, and I'm just like not worried about it.
01:01:57.000But now this conversation we just had?
01:02:00.000Doubling down on it and defending it this isn't gonna trend because it's just we're not in that right now But right but then you see with with the Russia thing when that first starts Then all of a sudden if that's what's hot now and this is how they always do this like in the moment They try to really make it they try to make you intimidated to say the important thing in the moment But man dude this thing with Russia is just like the craziest thing in the world like the idea that we're actually Flirting with a nuclear conflict with Russia is
01:02:30.000the most important priority in the history of humanity, is that America and Russia do not go to war.
01:02:36.000There's nothing more important than that.
01:02:49.000In fact, from very solid reporting, that actually America, through Boris Johnson, told Ukraine not to negotiate with Russia at the very beginning of the war, when they had a deal worked out.
01:03:04.000There's been reported in multiple sources that they had a deal worked out, and the deal was basically that Vladimir Putin would pull back.
01:03:09.000He would pull back his troops and leave Ukraine under the condition that—the very simple conditions that Ukraine— Guaranteed autonomy for the Donbass region and agreed to never join NATO. And that was a deal.
01:03:23.000Like, okay, I'm not saying everyone thinks that's the perfect deal, but it's better than what we got right now.
01:03:30.000Dude, the official narrative on this whole war, it's just like it makes no sense.
01:03:34.000And again, like I said, remember, the same people who are pushing this are the ones who are telling you Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and stuff.
01:03:39.000But the official narrative, Joe, is basically that...
01:03:45.000Vladimir Putin is a madman, a crazy war criminal who's hell-bent on reforming the Soviet Union, and this is a real threat that he could do this, but also he's getting humiliated in this war in Ukraine.
01:04:01.000He's losing to the poorest country in Europe, and he's just getting humiliated and beat back, but he's still a real threat to take over all of Europe.
01:04:07.000And he's a complete madman, by the way, Joe.
01:04:09.000But when he says he's gonna use nuclear weapons, don't listen to that.
01:04:11.000He'd never actually do that, even though he's a complete madman.
01:04:14.000And as everyone says, this war, the word they use over and over and over again, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton, all of them, unprovoked.
01:04:24.000Vladimir Putin led an unprovoked war in Ukraine.
01:04:28.000But then, it's just like with Osama Bin Laden, what they did with him then.
01:04:33.000Whatever you do, don't listen to what he's actually saying, because none of that's his motivations.
01:04:38.000Like, his motivations are what we tell you.
01:04:41.000Osama Bin Laden hates us because we're free.
01:04:43.000And then, like, Ron Paul would just go like, yeah, but that's not what he's saying at all.
01:04:49.000Like, Osama bin Laden was so clear about why he hated America.
01:04:52.000And he's like, look, I hate you because you murder innocent civilians in the Muslim world, you prop up brutal dictators in the Muslim world, you prop up Israel who mistreats the Palestinian people, and you have your bases in our Holy Land in the Arabian Peninsula.
01:05:07.000And then they're like, nah, he hates us because we're free.
01:05:09.000He didn't mention anything about freedom there.
01:05:11.000And then if you say that, they're like, well, are you defending Osama bin Laden?
01:05:14.000And you're like, no, I'm just saying, listen to your enemies.
01:05:33.000And a lot of them are soldiers, but a lot of them are civilians.
01:05:37.000But to say he was unprovoked is, like, insane.
01:05:41.000It's just only people who know nothing about the history of this conflict would say there was no provocation.
01:05:47.000Did you see the conversation that Roger Waters had with that CNN guy?
01:05:50.000Yeah, because Roger Waters was awesome on that.
01:05:52.000Because he knows what he's talking about, dude.
01:05:54.000And he's right about all of that shit.
01:05:57.000Look, this is what he was saying, and he's absolutely right, that the promise when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, and this was verbally promised and put in writing, was that NATO would not expand one inch to the east.
01:06:12.000And NATO at that point, the line then was through Germany.
01:06:15.000Like, the western half of Germany was in the west, and the eastern half was with the Soviet Union.
01:06:21.000And they were like, we'll let all of these nations, you know, secede, and the Soviet Union will collapse, and we're giving up on communism.
01:06:27.000It was one of the greatest things that ever happened.
01:06:29.000And the deal was, okay, you do that, then we won't move NATO, we won't move our military alliance into your area that used to be your realm of influence.
01:06:55.000And they put, under George W. Bush, they put in Poland these dual-use rocket launchers.
01:07:04.000There's a big complaint that Vladimir Putin has that he's like, these can be used to get nukes here in a matter of minutes.
01:07:11.000Like, this is like a threat to us that we cannot tolerate.
01:07:15.000And then, in 2014, there was a coup in Ukraine that was completely led by the West.
01:07:23.000I don't know if you've ever heard, but I think I sent you actually once the tape of Gideon Rose, who was the editor for Foreign Affairs magazine on the old Stephen Colbert Report show, back when Colbert was hilarious, and he was just openly bragging about what the game is here.
01:07:38.000And he was like, well, Ukraine is kind of like the Robin to Russia's Batman.
01:07:42.000And so our job is to steal Robin away from Batman and make him come over here and join us.
01:07:47.000And aha, Vladimir Putin's so stupid that he won't do anything.
01:07:51.000And then Colbert's in his old character.
01:07:52.000So he's like, well, shouldn't Obama be spiking the football and saying, yeah, in your face, Putin?
01:07:57.000And Gideon Rose is like, well, no, no, because then Putin might invade Ukraine.
01:08:02.000So, we wouldn't want to spike the ball, but there's these...
01:08:58.000Countries have to develop over time, and Ukraine basically, after the end of the Soviet Union, faced two tracks.
01:09:04.000It could stay a sort of stagnant, corrupt, authoritarian country tied to Russia, or it could essentially join the West.
01:09:11.000It could modernize, liberalize, become a democracy.
01:09:14.000At the last minute, when it looked like it was going to trade up from its sort of abusive relationship with its boyfriend from the hood to a nice, yuppie...
01:09:22.000You're not loading these choices in any way whatsoever.
01:09:36.000And the president, who himself was tied to the old elites and the eastern part of the country who ties to Russia, decided to back off the change and go join Russia.
01:09:45.000Do you know how many pirate-themed restaurants you can buy with $15 billion?
01:09:49.000The problem was the western parts of the country and the younger parts of the country and the more modern liberal parts of the country basically knew that they had no future being Russia's vassal, and so they took to the streets.
01:10:00.000Is America taking sides in this in any way?
01:10:02.000If these people, the rebels are winning right now, right?
01:10:06.000Why isn't Obama spiking the ball in the end zone and calling Putin and saying, hey, you might have won the medal count, but we won the country count, biatchi?
01:10:16.000It's actually a very good question, and the answer is that we don't want Russia to intervene and kick over the table like a game of risk and take Ukraine back.
01:10:55.000It's easy to agree on getting rid of the bad old regime and much harder to create a stable country in which everybody compromises and moves forward.
01:11:03.000They need a strong leader to move the country forward.
01:11:06.000Do you know who's always good at a moment like that?
01:11:10.000Do you think he might volunteer to come in and help Ukraine find its way?
01:11:14.000The reason we don't want, we don't want, we don't want Putin to get involved in this and so we are basically, we want to try and involve him in this decision so that he allows Ukraine to go.
01:11:23.000We actually want to not, we want to say we want a non-exclusive relationship with Ukraine.
01:11:27.000You can have a relationship with it too.
01:11:28.000You're the only one making this into a girlfriend-boyfriend relationship.
01:11:32.000Ukraine is basically choosing its future between two completely different courses of action, and we're trying to blur that choice so the old boyfriend doesn't get too upset when it makes the right choice.
01:11:42.000So, just to, that's basically, that's the point, but just to add to this, right, so, and it's not just that the guy at Foreign Affairs is saying stuff like this, right, but you also have those, when he says the people took to the streets, you can trace where they were getting their funding from, and it's a whole bunch of NGOs that are Zach and I said George Soros,
01:12:47.000Yeah, we can keep all that in if you need to.
01:12:49.000So it's just all these George Soros-funded NGOs were funding the militias on the ground who were overthrowing the government, and then there's a tape of Victoria Nuland.
01:12:58.000Who was at the State Department at the time, one of the top people at the State Department, and she was basically talking about who would be the new government that took over, who America didn't want in, who we did want in the new government.
01:13:10.000So it's not, you know, what happened basically was as Gideon Rose was even saying, the Ukrainian government was kind of siding with Russia, or at least a lot more pro-Russia.
01:13:19.000And then we overthrew that government and installed a pro-America government.
01:13:23.000And this to Putin, he had said over and over again, was a huge red line for him.
01:13:30.000And you could look, imagine, take it from our point of view, if like Russia was coming over here and overthrowing the pro-America government in Montreal and installing a pro-Russia government there.
01:13:41.000And, you know, like, this would be seen as, would you call that an unprovoked attack?
01:13:46.000You know, if we were to go in there and then go overthrow that government?
01:13:48.000So, again, I'm not justifying what he's doing.
01:13:51.000But, and then the other thing to this, right, that's important to add, is, like, you remember the two big things that it's so weird no one, like, I don't see anyone connecting these things.
01:17:00.000And it's the same thing with like the war on terrorism.
01:17:02.000If you're going to tell this story of like what led to this, to understand where to go from here, the story has to include that America was intervening in the Middle East for decades before 9-11.
01:17:17.000I guess the biggest part is what I said before, that the concern of all of us should be just that there's no nuclear conflict between America and Russia, which seems like we're dangerously close to.
01:17:30.000More close at any point in our lives than since the 80s.
01:17:34.000And I grew up during that time, there was this hovering fear over most of America that there was a potential for nuclear war with Russia.
01:23:02.000So once he starts finding Cleveland's number, and here you see him finding Cleveland's number, he's really starting to land some decent combinations on him.
01:23:10.000And Cleveland's still coming forward looking to land the haymaker.
01:23:13.000He's got serious power, and that's why he's so confident, right?
01:23:16.000He's like moving forward because he knows if he can hit this fucking dude like he hits everybody else, everybody goes night-night.
01:23:21.000And all this dancing and moving around and stuff would be inconsequential if he could land on him.
01:23:25.000It kind of reminds me of the way Anderson Silva used to fight like in his prime where he'd dance around and then when he'd start really getting in his rhythm just open up like crazy, but he was 185 pounds.
01:23:34.000Yeah, there's a little bit of that, but Anderson was much more subtle in his movement.
01:23:39.000And of course, kicks and knees and all that shit.
01:23:44.000He would download all your movements and put them in the master computer, and then somewhere around the end of the first round, he would start lighting you up, and you'd be like, oh shit.
01:23:52.000He's like, yep, he collected all the data.
01:23:54.000The only people that were successful against Anderson made Anderson lead.
01:25:36.000Whatever magic that we're talking about here with fighters like Ali had it in a way during I think this fight This was like my favorite version of Ali because it's kind of a little bit of a mismatch ultimately We know because Ali went on to be the greatest arguably of all time But when you're watching the way he's able to do it like there look at that one two moving backwards Moving let me see that again.
01:28:27.000Before Jerry Quarry because Jerry Quarry was his comeback fight and Jerry you could see in that fight like his body looked different It says here this was on November 14th 66 and the article I have here that says he was convicted on June 20th 67 so he could have had another one in between Let's go to his Wikipedia and see if that I I want to say that that was it.
01:30:25.000Well, that's one of the reasons why he was so important is because he wasn't just an important athlete, like the greatest boxer that we'd ever seen as a heavyweight, for sure.
01:30:35.000But he was also an important cultural figure.
01:30:37.000Because when he was saying, no Viet Cong guy ever did anything to me.
01:30:42.000I'm not going to go over there and kill people.
01:31:06.000Go to the Gulf of Tonkin, because I don't want to fuck this up, but the way we got into the Vietnam War was basically just a made-up story.
01:31:17.000And it's true with the Lusitania in World War I, too.
01:31:20.000It was like completely the way the story was told to the American people.
01:31:24.000It was basically that there was like, oh, this ship that had Americans on it was shot down by German submarines.
01:31:33.000And they were like, well, why would they do this?
01:31:35.000They knew it was just a ship of civilians.
01:31:37.000But then it turns out that actually the ship was delivering weapons to the British.
01:31:41.000And so it's like, oh, yeah, you were delivering weapons into a war zone.
01:31:45.000Got a little bit more reasonable to shoot down your ship.
01:31:48.000The Gulf of Tonkin incident occurred August of 1964. North Vietnamese warships purportedly attacked United States warships, the USS Maddox and the USS C. Turner J. Two separate occasions in the Gulf of Tonkin,
01:32:08.000a body of water neighboring modern-day Vietnam.
01:33:04.000It says it was passed on August 7, 1964 by the U.S. Congress after an alleged attack on two U.S. naval destroyers sanctioned in the coast of Vietnam.
01:33:15.000Well, the History.com version probably wouldn't go into the...
01:33:18.000Right, but is it a conspiracy is my question, or is it just proven fact over time that just hasn't been accepted because the initial narrative by the government has never been rescinded?
01:33:31.000Yeah, I think that it at least partially has been admitted.
01:33:36.000That at least they lied about the way they presented it.
01:34:27.000But sometimes you repeat it based off your previous memory of this, but I'm like, no, I remember knowing this, so I'm pretty confident in repeating it.
01:35:39.000But even as crazy as the war in Vietnam was, and it's just horrible, it slaughtered so many people in a country so we could impose that they wouldn't be ruled by the communists or something like that.
01:35:55.000Okay, American planes hit North Vietnam after a second attack on our destroyers.
01:36:00.000Move taken to halt new aggression announced the Washington Post headline on August 5th, 1964. The same day, on the front page of the New York Times reported, President Johnson has ordered retaliatory action against gunboats.
01:36:38.000Continuous government lies passed on by pliant mass media leading to over 50,000 American deaths and millions of Vietnamese casualties.
01:36:48.000The official story was the North Vietnamese torpedo boats launched an unprovoked attack against a U.S. destroyer on a routine patrol in the Tonkin Gulf on August 2nd and that North Vietnamese PT boats followed up with a deliberate attack on a pair of U.S. ships two days later.
01:37:07.000Rather than being on a routine patrol on August 2nd, the U.S. destroyer Maddox was actually engaged in aggressive intelligence gathering maneuvers in sync with coordinated attacks on North Vietnam by the South Vietnamese Navy and the Laotian Air Force.
01:37:22.000The day before, two attacks on North Vietnam had taken place, writes scholar Daniel C. Hallen.
01:37:28.000These assaults were a part of a campaign of increasing military pressure on the North that the United States had been pursuing since early 1964. On the night of August 4th, the Pentagon proclaimed that a second attack by North Vietnamese PT boats had occurred earlier that day in the Tonkin Gulf.
01:37:46.000A report cited by President Johnson as he went on national TV later that evening to announce a momentous escalation in the war, airstrikes against North Vietnam.
01:37:57.000But Johnson ordered US bombers to retaliate for North Vietnamese torpedo attack that never happened.
01:38:33.000And then the second attack just never even happened.
01:38:35.000So that's, I mean, it's, and the thing about it is that it's like they knowingly lied about this because they wanted a pretense to get into the war.
01:38:45.000And that's, it's so much how all of these wars start and all of the ones since.
01:38:49.000But the difference is like, at least in Vietnam, basically the thing has been since World War II that like, we fought a whole lot of wars.
01:38:57.000But we don't fight wars with nuclear-armed powers.
01:38:59.000We fought a few proxy wars with nuclear-armed powers, like Vietnam.
01:39:03.000Kind of a proxy war with Russia in Vietnam.
01:40:20.000And then Zelensky goes on and gives a speech.
01:40:24.000And Zelensky says that his standard is not just that Russia has to retreat and give back all the territory to Ukraine, but that Russia must be punished.
01:40:36.000And then Zelensky says that if Russia even thinks about using nukes, that the other nuclear-armed countries should use their nukes against Russia.
01:40:45.000And you're just like, dude, what the fuck are we talking about here?
01:41:23.000Now imagine what kind of person wants that job.
01:41:26.000Like these unexceptional people that we're talking about before.
01:41:29.000These aren't the people that are like the thought leaders of the world.
01:41:32.000These are the people that win the popularity contest.
01:41:34.000And a lot of them are winning because they're...
01:41:37.000Connected to whatever the fucking current hive mind ideology is, and they pump up, and they use these words, and they say the certain things that that group is saying, whether it's on the right or the left.
01:41:48.000That's what a lot of these people are doing.
01:42:25.000It's a matter of when and only if we don't blow ourselves up or Get involved in some sort of a natural disaster, get hit by an asteroid, super volcano, that kind of shit could fuck everything up.
01:42:37.000But if that doesn't happen, if we can just keep going on this path and let these super nerds figure shit out for the next thousand years or hundred years or whatever it is, it's gonna change everything.
01:42:49.000Because we're gonna know how people actually operate, how they're actually thinking.
01:42:55.000Because all of our thoughts of romance and interpersonal relationships and how people really feel about you, all of them are going to be exposed like we're all on mushrooms.
01:43:07.000And I'd imagine, I mean, I don't know enough about this, but I'd imagine even before you get to the point of just reading someone's thoughts, you probably get to the point of just reading whether they're lying or not.
01:43:18.000Just knowing whether what they're saying is a lie.
01:43:20.000Like being able to kind of like figure out, not like a lie detector test, which isn't as like reliable, but like actually being able to find out, no, we've figured out the scientific like, you know, indicators that somebody's lying and you could wear something, you could have a lens on that will tell you this person's lying or whether they're telling the truth.
01:44:23.000The idea that you're supposed to agree with everybody about everything is so crazy.
01:44:27.000And this is part of the problem with having a right and a left, is that you get attached to that team.
01:44:33.000And they'll label you in order to frame you in some nefarious way.
01:44:39.000You see it all the time, I mean, with people.
01:44:42.000And then it's like the more heated things get, the more people get dug in to each team because you're so furious with the other team that you're like, well, I gotta be with this team.
01:44:50.000So then even if that team does something wrong, you're like, well, I gotta be with this team to protect me from this other team.
01:45:11.000There's two groups of people that I follow, and their reactions to it are so hyper different.
01:45:17.000There's, like, the right-wing people like, fuck yeah, Italy!
01:45:20.000And then there's the left-wing people like, the far-right, you know, new leader.
01:45:25.000Like, this is dangerous, fascist rhetoric and connected to fascism.
01:45:30.000They've really overplayed that fascist hand.
01:45:33.000Because, you know, if that's what they're saying, the Brothers of Italy or something, I think, is their political party.
01:45:39.000And they're saying that they represent some neo-Musolinian movement or something like that.
01:45:47.000I don't, you know, I don't know, but I do think that, like, I don't know what you think about it, but I thought what she said in that speech, I got it, and I get why it's appealing, and I don't think there was anything, at least in what she said in that.
01:47:11.000We're assuming this is the translation is correct.
01:47:14.000If we are called to govern this nation, we will do it for everyone.
01:47:18.000We will do it for all Italians, and we will do it With the aim of uniting the people of this country, Maloney said at her party's Rome headquarters.
01:47:30.000We will not betray the country as we never have.
01:47:34.000As polls in the run-up to Sunday's vote showed her as likely winner, Mallory has moderated her far-right message in an apparent attempt to reassure the European Union and other international partners.
01:47:46.000This is the time for being responsible, Maloney said.
01:47:49.000Appearing live on television describing the situation for Italy and the European Union as particularly complex, Maloney, who campaigned on a motto of God, country, and family, said the result was only a beginning.
01:48:03.000This is a night of pride for brothers of Italy, but is a starting point, not a finish line, she was quoted as saying by The Guardian.
01:48:12.000Yeah, well, but already that, just at that point, because they're saying, like, well, she campaigned on God, country, and family.
01:48:19.000And I understand, I can understand, because I grew up in a very liberal, you know, area, and I understand where, like, a lot of people on the left don't like the idea of a political leader campaigning on God, nation, and family.
01:48:34.000Like, they're like, hey, this should somehow, like, government should be neutral on those issues or something like that.
01:48:39.000At least I would think, if you're a liberal or a leftist or something, at least understand why do you think it is that that message is so appealing to so many people.
01:48:49.000And you have to almost objectively say that, look, those things are things.
01:48:56.000You know, like, just in the 20th century alone, how many people were willing to go and fight in wars under the banner of nationalism, like, for their country, you know?
01:49:06.000And, like, people care about their country.
01:49:08.000And obviously people care about their god a lot.
01:49:10.000And obviously people care about their family a lot.
01:49:13.000And what I saw of her, assuming the translation was correct, in her speech was she was saying that these things are constantly under attack right now.
01:49:22.000Like, we don't have to live in a society where, like, Christianity and patriotism and family is constantly being demonized.
01:49:33.000Like, all of the things that we like to identify as are constantly being demonized.
01:49:37.000And I would at least, like, say to, like, left-wingers, You know, if you keep up this game of, like, demonizing all of those things, there's going to be a right-wing response to it.
01:49:47.000People are going to rally around the political leaders who are, like, saying, like, no, we're for traditional families and Christianity and national greatness.
01:49:56.000I'm not even saying I'm for that, but I get the appeal of it.
01:49:59.000Yeah, but not even saying traditional family, just family, period.
01:50:03.000I mean, it's not labeling it traditional family, but the idea that those things would be offensive.
01:50:06.000I get the impression that that's what she means.
01:50:10.000It wouldn't be offensive if it was a particular god.
01:50:12.000So, like, if you're talking about Islam, like, if you are against anything that is Islamic or Muslim, you'll be thought of as Islamophobic.
01:50:23.000There's no Christianaphobic, which is fascinating.
01:50:26.000It's really weird because there's a political leaning in this country where people look at people that have certain religious beliefs and they'll mock them.
01:50:38.000Like, Christianity is a very easy one to mock.
01:50:40.000Because, well, the easiest are like Scientology.
01:51:07.000I also think you're right about all of that, but also a distinction that I'd make is, like, it seems to me when there's the mocking of Mormons or something like that is more of a kind of, like, making fun of them, whereas with Christians there seems to be, like, real vitriol in it with them.
01:51:24.000Like, there's more hatred toward them.
01:51:37.000In fact, the truth is that for better or for worse, and there was a lot of both, there was a lot of good and bad, but Christianity had a huge impact on civilization, and it was the Foundational ideology of Western civilization.
01:51:55.000Now, that doesn't mean you have to be a Christian, but all of that is really dismissed, like the contributions that Christianity made to the world that so many of us enjoy.
01:52:05.000Well, it's not like Christianity needs a fucking star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame, but it's an ideology that millions of people hold.
01:52:16.000And there's tenets in it that could lead to a better world if people followed them.
01:54:28.000So you're like, if there's gonna be a religion one way or the other, I'd probably like the one that is at least has thousands of years of stability behind it and has at least, like, moderated on its worst issues and is no longer being used as a justification for how many times you can beat your slave a day,
01:56:05.000Particularly with psychedelics, like with mushrooms and LSD and stuff like that, people do have these pretty amazing experiences.
01:56:13.000And I've had some, and there's a lot that you can learn about the world through them.
01:56:19.000But then they also do make it kind of like, I've never done a DMT or ayahuasca or whatever, but particularly with those, you are in a state where if you have some guru or whatever who's leading you through the journey, Well, that person is put in a position of a lot of power over you now.
01:57:06.000And he details how he kept getting fired and he missed deadlines, but he's just so obsessed with the data and trying to figure out what's going on.
01:57:14.000But that whole fucking thing with Manson was a CIA PSYOP. He was a part of all that MK Ultra LSD studies.
01:59:17.000It's like there is this thing where it's like, wow, this has so much potential, it's very interesting, and we don't exactly understand it, but it really creates these experiences.
01:59:24.000And then it's like you leave it to the government to be like, well, let's use this in the most fucked up way imaginable.
02:00:14.000You remember the video you did that went super viral?
02:00:18.000I think it was before you started the podcast.
02:00:19.000It was right around the time that went real viral about you talking about war and stuff like that.
02:00:24.000And it was like this viral video, someone edited it together.
02:00:26.000And I remember you said in the thing, I loved it, where you were like, wait a minute, so we fight these wars.
02:00:31.000You're telling me we send big metal machines of death to go rip human beings apart?
02:00:37.000And just the way you describe that, that's the way somebody who's done some hallucinogens or smoked some weed in their life would describe it.
02:00:45.000I smoked some weed five minutes before I said that.
02:00:47.000But that's the way you would describe it.
02:00:49.000It's like, well, let's zoom out and just look at this from a different angle.
02:02:00.000The problem is your behavior patterns lack structure and discipline.
02:02:06.000If you knew the things you had to do and you went out and did them and you pursued them because they were the most important things, whether it's finding meaningful work, whatever you're trying to do in your life.
02:02:16.000Focus on that primarily because that's what's going to get you ahead in life.
02:02:20.000And if you're not doing that, that's the problem.
02:02:23.000And if you're smoking pot at the same time you're not doing that, it's not the pot's fault.
02:03:43.000I'm not saying, and when I say all of it, I mean, I don't mean like that nobody will ever abuse drugs if they're legal.
02:03:48.000I'm just saying that the smuggling is completely over, and then the overdose numbers will, like, Drastically be reduced because at least people will know what they're getting and know they're getting clean stuff and like know they're getting the right dosage and stuff like that it's just like it's insane like it's such an emergency right now in America like no one is really well and then you hear these people even Trump what a fucking idiot he is the other day where he goes oh what we need is the death penalty for drug dealers you're like that's it by the way uh president operation warp speed Is
02:04:30.000Well, it has to be regulated and it has to be legal.
02:04:35.000Because if it's not, you're going to get unregulated illegal drugs and you're going to prop up criminal organizations that are extremely violent that could just walk across the border.
02:05:13.000All of a sudden, they start sounding like everything that they called racist right away, you know?
02:05:18.000Like, it's just kind of like, you know, like, well, this is a big issue, and it's a strain on our resources, and they have to go somewhere else, but we're still the good guys, and we love them, but we simply, at Martha's Vineyard, cannot accommodate 50 people.
02:05:50.000You know what she's like at this point?
02:05:52.000Do you know how there's those comics that are really good comics, but they have a girlfriend, and the girlfriend does comedy too, but she bombs every time.
02:06:01.000And maybe takes her off the road for a little bit, tells her she's got to tighten it up, and then next thing you know, like, who's opening it for Jeff?
02:06:39.000If you caught her in earlier campaign speeches and when she's comfortable and having conversations with people, she doesn't seem inarticulate.
02:08:49.000So he comes out the other day and just says, and the whole point of the One China policy is basically, and this is actually one thing that was smart, strategic U.S. foreign policy, is that they basically went, okay, So we recognize China.
02:09:08.000And we'd also like to see a reunification and we kind of like it to all be peaceful.
02:09:12.000And we're very ambiguous about where we stand.
02:09:15.000Because the problem is, if you were to come out and say what Joe Biden just said the other day, he goes, oh, if China invaded Taiwan, we would send in the military.
02:09:26.000Well, the problem with that is, like, that might be the encouragement Taiwan needs to go, okay, then we declare independence.
02:09:33.000And if they declare independence, China will invade Taiwan.
02:09:37.000And then, holy shit, and by the way, all of our, like, Navy, like, war games say that we lose that war.
02:09:44.000China sparks new Taiwan invasion fears with threat to crush anyone who tries to stop its reunification with the self-governing island after Biden kowtowed to Beijing at UN. That's why having a guy like him in office is fucking dangerous.
02:10:03.000And this is what they said about Trump.
02:10:56.000And I mean, look, this was the knock on Donald Trump is like, well, he'll say reckless things.
02:11:00.000But I mean, what is more reckless than just like, and the crazy thing about it, you know, even Henry Kissinger like came out recently and was talking about how insane this whole Ukraine policy is.
02:11:12.000Because he's like, well, what do you do?
02:11:13.000Is the plan here that we're going to provoke Russia and China?
02:11:18.000We're going to provoke nuclear conflict with the two countries who you just don't want to have a nuclear conflict with.
02:11:23.000And whatever anyone says, and I know there's some of the populist right-winger types who are real China hawks and are really concerned about China, but the truth is that neither one of these countries pose a military threat to America.
02:12:41.000But even he didn't try to defend any of the interventions of the 21st century.
02:12:46.000He didn't even try to say, he couldn't, he couldn't even look this kid who asked him the question, look him in the eye and go, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya.
02:14:50.000We have these really narrow narratives that we're fed in this country.
02:14:55.000And this is one of the things that I love most about this conversation is because all these things that you've laid out and all of these things that most people are not aware of about the history of this conflict, like now people get an understanding of how this is a pattern that just is going,
02:16:35.000Like, it's not as if that just went easy.
02:16:37.000But, you know, then if you look at the war on terrorism, I mean, we went to spread freedom to the Middle East, but that comes with the price tag of the Patriot Act and the Department of Homeland Security and, you know, all of this stuff.
02:16:46.000And then, by the way, we didn't bring any freedom there either.
02:16:49.000That what we were saying earlier about the way the internet has kind of changed the way people view governments and people view information and people have access.
02:16:59.000We're more informed, maybe more confused in a lot of ways than ever before.
02:17:04.000But I think mind reading is the next one.
02:17:07.000I think when that happens, we're fucked.
02:17:09.000We're fucked for a while because there's gonna be mad chaos where people try to make sense of people's real thoughts and real intentions and the real mechanisms behind everything that runs the world.
02:17:21.000All of our money, our government, the mindsets of people that are just trying to acquire money and how insane that is.
02:17:27.000How insane is that just the pursuit of only numbers, that's it.
02:17:32.000The constant pursuit of numbers and objects.
02:17:34.000Well, there's also like, it's, it's, there's this thing where there's like the pursuit of money is almost like I break it up into like two categories where there's like, there's a lot of people pursuing money, but a lot of people are pursuing money like private citizens, you know, like in the marketplace are like, even if they're really trying to pursue money,
02:17:50.000basically, the only way they can get it is like by offering a product.
02:18:03.000And then there are these people who are connected to the government who are basically in rigged games, where they've stacked the deck against regular people, where you essentially have to give them money.
02:18:22.000I really think the only hope, like I've said this to you before, but I think the only hope for America is some form of liberty, some form of libertarianism.
02:18:30.000Like we've just gone way too much in the other direction of like the government having way too much power and running everybody's lives.
02:18:36.000And the only way to like to like save this thing, to cool off the culture war, to stop drowning the next generation in debt and destroying our currency and all of this stuff.
02:18:46.000There's got to be some form of decentralization, limiting of the power of government, rolling back some of these institutions, and the only way to do that is to get enough people to demand it, and then enough powerful people to support that.
02:19:01.000Get enough powerful people on board with this, and enough popular support to just be like, okay, there's real will.
02:19:09.000The problem is, once the game is rigged, it's hard to get people to go back to normal.
02:19:15.000They've had a rigged game for a long time to open it up to an ethical, logical, reasonable playing field at this point in the game where it's like really locked down.
02:19:26.000Well, you mean like so from the- The numbers they can extract.
02:19:28.000So you're saying like for those special interests who have this game rigged.
02:19:32.000So I think what it's almost got to be is some combination of where there's enough of the people who are so angry and are just demanding their freedom and that this rigged game be rolled back.
02:19:42.000And then it's almost kind of like they're like, look, you got away with this for a long time, but you're going to meet a very bad fate if you continue on this path.
02:20:13.000You know, like, look, I'll say the thing that to me is like the silver lining, the note of optimism, is that there really is something important about people waking up.
02:20:21.000There's a reason why they work so hard to propagandize people.
02:20:24.000There's a reason why they flipped out on you so much for having just like Dr. Malone and people like that on your show.
02:20:31.000They're really concerned that you might talk to people and that they might hear from this expert and they might believe him.
02:20:36.000It's like, why are they so concerned about that?
02:20:39.000Because if they knew that, they may not support these policies.
02:20:41.000And if they don't support these policies, they may not be able to get away with them.
02:20:44.000That's ultimately why the COVID passports failed, just because enough people were outraged about it.
02:20:49.000They didn't even give this a lot of coverage.
02:20:51.000There were huge protests in New York City over this stuff.
02:20:53.000And then it was just like people weren't doing it, they weren't following the rules and stuff, and eventually they just walked it back.
02:21:03.000I think there's at least a hope for the country now that it's like people don't trust these institutions that they shouldn't trust because they're just lying to them.
02:21:10.000And there's platforms like yours, you know what I mean, that are bigger than any of those platforms where people can hear the truth.
02:21:16.000So I'm optimistic at least for that as long as we stop provoking Putin and we don't fight a nuclear war.
02:22:05.000Maybe it'll confirm people's suspicions that no matter how good a candidate is, if they're not one of the two candidates, one of the two parties, they're not going to support them because it's a wasted vote.
02:22:14.000Yeah, but even that would be an interesting thing to let people know.
02:22:19.000It'd still be an interesting thing to at least point out to people.
02:22:21.000It's like, yeah, but that's the essence of the problem.
02:22:23.000And then the crackpots would say that you're taking away votes that could have gone to my party, whatever it is, right or left.
02:22:31.000And you're the reason why we lost, you piece of shit, you fucking coward, you unpatriotic traitor, you treasonous, this, that, or the other thing.
02:22:40.000Yeah, you do get that, but I also just kind of think, and this is why I'm a member of the Libertarian Party, and this is why I joined, and I'm excited about it, because my camp kind of just took over the whole party.
02:22:51.000There was a little civil war in the Libertarian Party between the Gary Johnson people and the Ron Paul people.
02:22:58.000I'm like the Ron Paul people's guy, and we won.
02:23:02.000We took over every position in the party now.
02:23:05.000But my thing about why a third party is just that...
02:23:09.000At a certain point, you're like, look, there's an argument to this, like, okay, if there's a lesser of two evil, well, then the third party might help the more evil of two evil get in or something like that.
02:23:18.000But at a certain point, you're just like, this is the United States of America still, kind of, or at least it's supposed to be.
02:23:25.000And both of these two major political parties have just committed treason against the American people.
02:24:12.000Okay, but then I also have to tell people, go to lp.org slash join, because you've got to join the party, because that would actually send a lot of messages.
02:24:20.000And don't watch Legion of Skanks, because that alone would be a...
02:25:28.000But yeah, it's like you could just take that clip of you explaining what it means to be a libertarian and what you stand for and just put it out there.
02:26:00.000Yeah, but I really think you're going to need...
02:26:02.000If it's nuclear war, you're going to need more than just land and deer.
02:26:05.000You're going to need some type of bunker.
02:26:06.000You're probably not gonna live if you need that.
02:26:09.000You have to think about like what kind of nuclear war are we talking about?
02:26:13.000Are we talking about just like Los Angeles and New York get evaporated?
02:26:17.000Or are we talking about every major city in the country?
02:26:19.000If it's every major city in the country then it's over.
02:26:22.000And then anyone who lives The lawlessness that you see in horrible YouTube videos and on TikTok or whatever, that will pale in comparison to living in a post-apocalyptic world with no power.
02:26:38.000If there's no power, shit will get so primal, so quick, and you will also realize how few bullets there really are.
02:26:49.000You need to understand, like, if you're, like, hunting every day and trying to find food and you're protecting yourself from gangs of outlaws that are trying to steal your livestock and your family members, like, this is the kind of world we're talking about.
02:27:39.000So freaking China the other day at the UN. This is how pathetic it is that we let China, who's this like one party fascist dictatorship, you know, like kind of right wing communists.
02:27:51.000Now they're like communists but who believe in business or something like that.
02:27:55.000We let them at the UN. Biden's up there and he's like, Putin must surrender and everybody should be on the side of Ukraine against Putin, blah, blah, blah.
02:28:03.000And then China, they get up there and they go, we call on all parties to de-escalate.
02:28:09.000And you're like, did you just let them be the adults in the room?
02:28:12.000Did we literally just let this one party authoritarian dictatorship come up there and sound like the reasonable ones?
02:29:23.000But certainly, I don't think there's any...
02:29:26.000It's smarter than going in and just spending a trillion dollars to kill a few hundred thousand people for no reason.
02:29:31.000It's like, why is one morally and ethically superior and why is that one war?
02:29:35.000I mean, think about the two different business models that you're talking about, that ours is morally and ethically superior because we have free speech.
02:29:44.000Because we have all these things that we want over here, so we're okay with doing what we do in other countries?
02:29:50.000That's where it gets squirrely because, like, if you say what China's doing is scary and dangerous and awful, like, yeah, yeah, so is what we do, right?
02:30:43.000Imagine if that was going on in this country.
02:30:45.000Imagine if there was drones that were targeting people that, you know, the Iraqis wanted dead, or the Iranians wanted dead, and they were killing 90% civilians.
02:30:57.00090% Regular people that were just going about their day, but unfortunately were grouped up with a person who had metadata on them.
02:31:34.000We're just blowing up buildings, you know, because, well, we suspect someone that's a suspected bad guy is in that building, so we blew it up.
02:32:48.000Quite possibly, it's possible they do, because Biden is somebody who would probably approve of these things, even if they did run it by him.
02:32:56.000But I know with Donald Trump, they bragged in certain areas where they lied to him about the number of troops that were in different regions.
02:34:04.000The actual number of troops in Northeast Syria is a lot more than the roughly 200 troops Trump initially agreed to leave there in 2019. Trump's abruptly announced withdrawal U.S. troops from Syria remains perhaps the single most controversial foreign policy move during his first years in office.
02:34:23.000And for Jeffrey, the most controversial thing in my 50 years in government The order, first handed down in December of 2018, led to the resignation of former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis.
02:34:35.000It catapulted Jeffrey, then Trump's special envoy for Syria, into the role of special envoy in the counter-ISIS fight when it sparked the protest resignation of his predecessor, Brett McGurk.
02:35:22.000I'll resign before I carry out these orders.
02:35:24.000And you're like, Did you guys never have a conversation about this?
02:35:27.000Like, when you were running on ending this war, and then you picked a guy to be your defense secretary, did you never, like, talk to him about, like, hey, by the way, I mean it?
02:35:35.000Like, I actually want to end this war?
02:35:41.000And then the next guy who comes in and moves up the ranks just starts lying to him about how many troops there are there.
02:35:46.000And by the way, the story at the end of this is that Trump just backs down and just doesn't end the war, which is basically what Trump did on everything.
02:36:43.000But look, I mean, I think you want, but you want badass guys like that, but who are also, like, wise enough to recognize, like, what's strategically in America's interest and what's there.
02:36:52.000And, you know, Donald Trump did get the guy and the guy.
02:36:56.000Is Colonel Douglas McGregor who's like – he's like one of those real badass dudes but who is wise enough to completely like turn against American foreign policy in the Middle East early on.
02:37:09.000I think he got out in like 2005 or 2006 or something like that and he was like – and he's basically just been speaking out against it sooner.
02:37:15.000He was like, this is not in our national interest to be doing this and we're doing nothing but bankrupting our country and putting ourselves in a more dangerous situation and all of this stuff.
02:37:23.000And Trump hired him and he made him the top advisor at the Defense Department after he lost the election to Joe Biden.
02:37:30.000So he had him there in the lame duck period after Biden was there.
02:38:29.000But I think it also doesn't even have to be as...
02:38:34.000Dramatic is the other angle of JFK getting shot.
02:38:37.000I mean, what Donald Trump ran on in 2016, and just for the record, I don't really never know with Donald Trump how committed to any of this shit he was, because the only thing that I've ever seen Donald Trump truly be committed to is his own greatness and his own...
02:38:55.000That's what he seems to really be motivated by.
02:38:58.000But he said in the 2016 campaign, he goes, wouldn't it make sense if we were just friendly with Russia and we worked together since they were fighting ISIS in Syria?
02:39:09.000He goes, we also want to fight ISIS. Let's work together, fight ISIS, and then leave the Middle East and not worry about regime change wars in the Middle East and we could be friendly with Russia.
02:39:18.000We could make a deal with them and get along with them.
02:39:23.000And then, you know, just all day long, everyone in the media, in the entire corporate press, all they were saying is, Trump-Russia collusion.
02:40:21.000And a lot of that shit happened to Obama too.
02:40:23.000Like that whole thing when General McChrystal went on the news and spoke directly to the press and was like, we need all of these troops here in Afghanistan and I haven't even had a conversation with the president.
02:40:35.000And then it was like, oh, all the Republicans get on him like, but he's not even talking to the generals on the ground.
02:41:55.000Although it was only four years, because I think Trump's ego actually, like, I remember one time Bill O'Reilly was interviewing Donald Trump.
02:42:02.000I always thought this was, like, an interesting insight into who Donald Trump is.
02:42:05.000But Bill O'Reilly asked him this question, and he was kind of like, he was like, do you ever just, like, you know, walk around at the White House and you're just like, Wow, this is just unbelievable that I'm at the White House.
02:42:16.000Like, I'm the President of the United States and I'm in the White House.
02:42:19.000And Trump goes, yeah, it's a nice house.
02:43:04.000He did the White House press correspondence dinner, and he said, here's one thing that I am that you'll never be, President of the United States.
02:43:10.000You see Trump in the audience going, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
02:43:33.000He knows how to make himself the center of the story.
02:43:36.000He knows how to say the thing that will get the reaction out of people.
02:43:39.000And that turned out to be an incredibly useful skill in campaigning.
02:43:45.000You know, like, he applied that to campaigning, and then it just took off.
02:43:48.000And he also, you know, he tapped into something.
02:43:51.000Even with the, like, even with the birth certificate stuff with Obama, which I think is all goofy, you know?
02:43:56.000But he tapped into, like, the level of distrust that people had in this government.
02:44:00.000And the level that they knew how much everyone was lying to them, that they were even willing to entertain this really big lie could have been told to them.
02:44:08.000Maybe this whole thing's a fucking lie, you know?
02:44:10.000It's kind of like, I think this has been building up throughout the 21st century in America.
02:44:14.000And this is why there's like, things like You know, and on both sides, the Russia conspiracy stuff, the QAnon stuff, even back to like a 9-11 truth or like loose change and stuff like that.
02:44:25.000People are very, when there's so many lies being told by powerful people, people are very open to the idea that they're lying about a whole bunch more stuff.
02:44:36.000And that's one of the things that's most dangerous about finding out that intelligence agencies are involved in censorship, because it makes people even more suspect to propaganda, more suspect that they're less likely to trust the government now than ever before.
02:44:55.000And the rise of a far-right candidate is more likely now, I think, than probably ever been before.
02:45:18.000You know, drag queen giving a lap downs to like a six-year-old or something.
02:45:22.000And you're just like, this is like, it's like my first thought is like, this is the most outrageous, appalling thing I've ever seen.
02:45:28.000And then my second thought, almost like right, not even second, it's like that's one and then one A is like, oh my God, we're going to live under a right-wing dictatorship.
02:45:36.000Because, man, I am the most just freedom, liberty-loving person.
02:45:41.000And it's like you're trying to turn me into a right-wing dictator.
02:45:46.000You see this stuff and you're like, oh my god, the reaction against this is gonna...
02:45:51.000And this was the thing that Jordan Peterson initially warned about.
02:46:06.000Yeah, and people, when they have an idea in their head, like this progressive ideology that they think is so important that it needs to take over the world, they're trying to indoctrinate people into it.
02:46:18.000And it must be imposed on other people's children.
02:46:20.000And these people have control of a lot of the big tech corporations, which is wild.
02:46:25.000Like, the ethics of that particular ideology.
02:47:53.000That's how you can get children to be religious martyrs.
02:47:56.000Like, how do you think they talk those kids into strapping themselves up with dynamite and walking into some building and blowing themselves up?
02:49:05.000And if their parents are Christians, or their parents are atheists, or if their parents are left-wing or right-wing, that's like, they have a right to, like, try to, like, you know what I mean?
02:49:13.000Especially when it comes to sexuality.
02:49:44.000Like oral sex between two males or a male and a female or someone fellating a dildo or something crazy like that.
02:49:51.000Yeah, like it's very, very, it's so weird.
02:49:53.000It's the wildest shit because like that's not your job.
02:49:56.000If we're talking about purely heterosexual relationships, we would all agree that is absolutely not a teacher's job to explain to a child how, what kind of sexual acts males and females like to do to each other.
02:50:33.000Here you have this Twitter account that just blew the fuck up simply by showing everybody.
02:50:39.000No, these are their teachers and this is what they're saying.
02:50:42.000Now, I'll admit first, when you see those videos, you don't always get the clearest perspective of like, wait a minute, so how many teachers are like this exactly?
02:50:50.000But regardless, this is a thing that's happening somewhere.
02:50:53.000And they have a lot of videos of them.
02:50:54.000So whatever the size of the problem is, it's like, I don't know, there's a lot, and now there's no way, you can't convince people that this isn't really happening, because we can like see it ourselves.
02:51:12.000How did anybody imagine, again, the heterosexual version of that, imagine a bunch of Strippers that are in their 30s and 40s, and they're getting young girls to strip and dance for men in the audience.
02:52:39.000We could disagree on so many issues, but can't we all agree with not sexualizing little kids?
02:52:45.000But for whatever reason, if you're doing that in an LBGTQ sort of...
02:52:52.000Thing yeah, and that like with with the drag queen show like they're still doing some of those Yeah, they still have like we're drag queens and little kids are together like what was cuties?
02:54:06.000That was something I was getting at that.
02:54:09.000Well, those I think are just things that they have, like just like things that they have at local, like for like Pride Month, they had a bunch of them.
02:54:16.000But there's a different thing between a kid maybe watching a drag show and being involved in it.
02:54:32.000I don't know what the events were, but I have seen those videos.
02:54:35.000It's not just like one thing like there's been a lot of videos of this that have been shared and it is um Yeah, it's you know, I remember imagine like proposing that to someone Yeah, and it does seem like drag kids.
02:54:49.000That's it a Daring and touching portrait of four kids chasing freedom and friendship through the art of drag That's it.
02:54:58.000That was the one so that was on CBC Oh, bro.
02:56:10.000I said something about this when this stuff was coming out, and I got people giving me pushback and stuff, where there's people on Twitter and stuff who were like, oh, but I bet you wouldn't have a problem.
02:56:22.000I was like, oh, there's this six-year-old at this drag show or something like that.
02:56:25.000And they're like, oh, I bet you wouldn't have a problem bringing your six-year-old to Hooters.
02:56:29.000And I was like, well, first off, I wouldn't bring my six-year-old to Hooters, because I do think that's kind of inappropriate.
02:56:33.000But second off, it's not nearly as inappropriate.
02:56:35.000It's like there's just levels to this.
02:57:35.000We're staying at a hotel that had a child beauty show.
02:57:37.000I want to differentiate, but not by much.
02:57:40.000So we're walking around the hotel and there's these little kids with high heels and they can barely walk and they're wearing skirts and they're just full clown makeup, crazy hair.
02:59:32.000I'll tell you, not in the sexualized way at all, but another thing that I find very bizarre that I always judge is the guys in the cable news things who color their hair and get work done and stuff like this.
02:59:48.000And you're like, you're a fucking newsman, I thought.
03:01:13.000I think Noam Chomsky went over this back in the day, but how the advertising just gets longer and longer, and the segments get shorter and shorter, and just what they're saying gets dumber and dumber.
03:01:53.000How do we realize that we are temporary beings?
03:01:57.000We have a finite lifespan, and we are somehow involved in these squabbles with places that are nowhere near us, with people that we have never met.
03:02:08.000And somehow or another, we are inexorably tied to these activities that are taking place on the other side of the world.
03:02:14.000And particularly the fact that they pose no threat to you and that you're a part of the biggest, baddest, most powerful society that's ever existed.
03:02:21.000And they're a part of, like, these very weak, vulnerable societies.
03:02:36.000A lot of people talk about how we need to unify the country and we're so polarized and wouldn't it be better if we were more united, which I understand the idea of that, but I think the most united times in my lifetime, the time the country was the most united was right after 9-11,
03:02:56.000And then the politicians just exploited that and gave us the Patriot Act and the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan and this whole disastrous start to the 21st century.
03:03:04.000And then I actually think everyone was pretty united when COVID first came.
03:04:03.000It must be fucking crazy at this point.
03:04:05.000On the books, I think it's like $700 billion, but if you look at all of the things that are also basically part of it, it's over a trillion dollars a year.
03:04:12.000Is there a way to redistribute that money to make it so that they can make that kind of money cleaning up cities?
03:04:19.000Each year, federal agencies receive funding from Congress known as budgetary resources.
03:04:24.000In 2022, the Department of Defense had $1.77 trillion.
03:04:41.000It could be in one of the six, but the nuclear program is not part of the Department of Defense.
03:06:01.000Well, look, even if the budget was zero next year, we still have the most powerful military in the history of the world.
03:06:07.000Right, but then you've got to pay people to run.
03:06:08.000There's going to be some maintenance or something like that, sure.
03:06:12.000But let's just say, hypothetically, I mean, look, we spend more than I think the next 13 countries combined or something like that on our defense budget.
03:06:22.000So let's just say we cut it in half, hypothetically.
03:06:25.000I think you – probably my guess is like, yeah, there would be enormous pushback from all of the special interests who are losing their money.
03:06:31.000So in other words, the only way it could work is if someone – like let's say the person who won the presidency won by – I'm going to cut the defense budget and got overwhelming support for it.
03:06:46.000Because then if there was so much support for it, it could be kind of like no matter how much you push back, it's just not going to matter.
03:06:53.000That being said, I don't really think there's going to be a centralized federal political solution.
03:06:58.000I think what's much more likely to happen in this country is that this system is going to fail and fail and fail more.
03:07:05.000And hopefully at that point you get more and more decentralization.
03:07:08.000And just like different areas are going to like not.
03:07:13.000Follow federal guidelines and things like that.
03:07:16.000To your point, there's so much entrenched powerful interest in Washington, D.C. It's very hard to see someone rolling it back from there without a huge movement behind them.
03:07:34.000That alone, just that number alone, whether it's the $777 billion or the $1.whatever trillion, that's so scary, dude.
03:07:43.000That's such an enormous amount of money.
03:07:44.000But the thing that's not a bummer is that it's like, yeah, dude, like, dude, this show gets more, like, people listening to it than all of these shows that aren't talking about— Are you trying to get me paranoid?
03:07:56.000But I'm saying that—and it's not just you.
03:07:59.000I mean, you're, like, kind of the biggest one, but there's so many of these podcasts now that lap, you know, CNN in terms of the people listening.
03:08:06.000And there are all of these really— I think they all do.
03:08:07.000There's all these really smart people having really interesting conversations all over the place.
03:08:11.000And it seems to me like I'm really encouraged by the fact that there's like a big appetite for that.
03:08:15.000It's like people don't just want this dumbed down shit that CNN's giving them.
03:08:21.000And as long as that's the case, that gives me at least some hope for like people waking up and at least more and more people waking up.
03:08:27.000I think more and more people are waking up, but it takes a long time to truly grasp the depth of all this chaos.
03:08:34.000And just you laying it out today to me, not just like enlightened me in some ways, but also refreshed my understanding of how fucking crazy corrupt the whole United States scheme has always been.
03:10:49.000If you let them control the money, if you let them have all...
03:10:54.000All the ability that they would want if they had something like this, which would be to tell you when you can and cannot spend money.
03:11:01.000Look, Visa has announced that they're going to separately classify gun purchases.
03:11:06.000So if you're a person with a lawful firearm license and you decide to purchase a handgun for home protection, now you can't do it through Visa without it being labeled in a different way.
03:11:17.000And I'm so glad you brought this up, too, because what they do right there with this whole game where it's like Maxine Waters said this.
03:11:58.000I'm scared of that more than anything because I'm scared of people thinking that, you know, they'll get it connected to some sort of social justice issue.
03:12:04.000They'll get it connected to some sort of cultural war issue and next thing you know, you're a supporter of this, that or the other thing if you don't agree with letting the government have those kind of powers and rights.
03:12:15.000And that's what's scary about them having the power to tell you to do anything, including medical interventions, including anything, anything that they tell you to do.
03:12:24.000They're not telling you to do for your best interest.
03:12:26.000They're telling you to do because there's some sort of a financial benefit to doing it that way.
03:13:22.000Well, that was the attempted coup thing was, yeah, in 32, 33. And when did he write War is a Racket?
03:13:30.000He wrote it when he was retiring, right?
03:13:32.000Yes, he wrote that when he was retiring, and he was involved in the military, I think, in like the late 1800s.
03:13:38.000But the story of the coup is from the 30s.
03:13:41.000It says, War is a Racket is a speech in a 1935 short book by Smedley D. Butler, retired United States Marine Corps Major General and two-time Medal of Honor recipient.
03:13:52.000Based on his career military experience, Butler discusses how business interests commercially benefit from warfare.
03:13:59.000We'll just read a little bit of that and then we'll just close this out.