Joe Rogan Experience #1879 - Sober October 4
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3 hours and 15 minutes
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207.73323
Summary
Artie and Joe talk about a variety of topics, including weed, money, and the fact that women hate their own age. Joe also talks about how he feels about his own age and what it means to be an old guy in the 21st century, and why he doesn t care that you're older than you should be. Joe also explains why he thinks it's a good idea to upgrade your age when it comes to women and how to deal with it. Artie and I also talk about how much money you should get if you're an old dude in your 20s and how you should deal with that. And we talk about what it's like to be a college senior and how it's not as bad as you think it is, especially when you're in your 30s and you don't have the money you used to have to go to college to get a good job. It's a fun, lighthearted episode that's a lot of fun to listen to, and we hope you enjoy it! Joe and Joe Enjoy! -The Joe Rogan Experience Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. All rights reserved. Used w/ permission from the creator. -Joe Rogan. Please do not use this material without permission. Thank you for the use of any music used in this episode. -- it was produced, produced, written, and produced, and all credit given, and credit given to the artist. If you have a friend who needs it, please reach out to me via Anchor.me/JoeRogan_ and I'm looking out there. We appreciate it. Thank you! -- thank you for all the love and support, I appreciate the support and support you're a rockstar. XOXO -- Thank you so much! -- I really appreciate it! -- Joe Rogans -- and I appreciate it greatly! -- -- -JOE ROGAN -- JOE RODAN - JOB RYANCHOR, JOE, JOSEPH, JUICY, JOB SONGS, JAMUCH, GOULDY, KELLY, GARRELLY, PODCASTING, JOSH MILLER, GABE, JAYE, KEVIN WELCOME, AND KAREN MCCARTE, MAYO, AND TAYLOR MCCARTER, DANIE LYNN, MARY OCHTERY, AND JOSH MECKLE.
Transcript
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Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day!
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There's nothing better, Artie and I were talking about this, than a cigar and a coffee in the morning.
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You gotta see Stanhope in the green room these days.
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If Camel Cigarettes could do an ad of you sucking down a cigarette...
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I would spray paint into a paper bag to get a little bit of a buzz before I go on stage.
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I stood up too fast the other day and it felt good.
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When I don't have weed and I just sit down to write, it's like I'm riding with weights on.
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I took one chance to a couple to the far right, older dude, and I didn't see his chick.
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And I was making a joke about Leanne being old.
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And I looked over and I saw his chick and she was his age.
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Because Liam, the biggest thing is when you upgrade.
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Isn't it interesting that guys don't give a fuck?
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Like, if a woman is getting divorced and then she starts fucking her personal trainer and he's like 32, no one cares.
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46 year old woman, 30 year old personal trainer, no one cares.
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Women are constantly threatened by youth, though.
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Like, you know, a stronger, bigger version of them.
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Like, when a woman leaves a man for a rich man, that one is inferior.
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Because that seems like the one that's not a goddamn thing you can do about it.
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If you go, my new chick's 24. She can't do anything about it.
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Yeah, if you have a girl leave you for a college senior, it's like, alright.
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Here's the thing, that college senior would not be a threat to your status.
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But if he's like some fucking young stud linebacker and he's just sending it in every night, boom, boom, boom.
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But you'd still be like, did he get his allowance this week to take you out?
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So like women are like fucking high-end IPOs like out the gate.
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And then they invest, like they kind of like, like a hedge fund, they look at these penny stocks like, you were a hardcore penny stock.
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I remember you were gaining weight and you were fucking like, you were like, and your material's questionable.
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But I've known him so long that when Christina signed up for him, that was a risky investment.
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There was no promise of success with Tom in podcasting.
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She had already been on TV. She had already had some success.
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She was transitioning into stand-up pretty quick, getting writing jobs.
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All of a sudden, your stock fucking goes public.
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And then, in a weird way, same thing with me, dude.
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I feel like this whole analogy was just for me as a Jew.
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But then as that happens, and this sounds shitty, but women start aging, and then their stock starts declining, and then all of a sudden it splits, and it splits and splits.
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And you watch this penny stock keep fucking rising, and some dudes go, what the fuck am I doing with this bullshit stock option?
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I'm going to sell out and get brand new fucking stocks.
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Did you ever see that guy, the woman who put out, like, I'm looking for a millionaire?
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I'm looking for a millionaire to, like, make me your wife?
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And then some economist was like, let me tell you about the laws of diminishing returns.
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And he broke down why it's a bad investment for any millionaire to take you in.
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It's like, your value is decreasing as their value increases.
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But it increases if you're in love with the person, it increases.
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I'll always joke about Leanne being older than me and old as fuck and looking very old and all that shit.
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A guy who doesn't love his wife doesn't say a fucking word and just upgrades one day.
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When we met that dude who upgraded, fucking left his chick.
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Upgrades to like, I think, 27, 33, somewhere around there.
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The women were living, and then that night in bed, me and Leanne are there, and I go, I wonder what I could get these days.
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You would get some girl that gets your ATM number, and she'd be drawing money out of your bank account every day.
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I would love to get a Tinder profile just to be like, see what I can do.
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Can we operate your Tinder profile for a while?
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And people would hit me up and I'd be like, I'd be like, oh, that's so cool.
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But why don't you come see me perform at the Comedy Store?
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Well, tell us about the health stuff, like you were talking about last night.
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Our boy Nick from Foundation Cigars was telling me that there might be some sort of an embargo in Nicaragua.
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Yeah, I mean, there's some shit going down, apparently.
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There's a difference when you hang out with dudes that know cigars, like Bobby Kelly knows cigars.
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He introduced me to Tatuaje, which is one of my favorite cigars.
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And it's almost like you hang out with someone who, like, it's like hanging out with a grown-up all of a sudden, but you're the same age.
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See, me, I don't know cigars and I don't know wine.
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I like it, but I'm like, I have no time in my head to become a wine connoisseur.
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You just go, what's around $13 and you'll get a good cigar.
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It's maybe my funnest thing of going into a cigar shop is getting into the humidor with the owner and being like, hey man, tell me what I want.
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I like something that kind of knocks me off my ass a little bit.
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I like something a little stronger, but I'm a ring gauge whore.
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I like a big, sometimes too big feels like a cock.
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Dude, I went to Cigar Lounge with this guy, Reggie Conquist, black guy, comic, and I was like, it's his first cigar, get him something, and he goes, do you want something flavored?
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Black dude's always like, that's your raspberry?
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I know what I like in terms of, like, a good wine.
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Dude, I take pictures of wine and send it to Matt.
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Yeah, my business manager is a legitimate connoisseur.
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And he has like half a million dollars worth of wine in his house, at least.
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Can you imagine somebody going, hey, I just saw, you know, Burt Gresh is really funny, but yeah, no fuck.
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So you take a photo of the label, and then you could order it right from the app.
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Tony and I were eating at this steak restaurant.
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Yeah, because I take pictures of them all the time, but then I realize I don't do anything.
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You're like, if I see this, I'll get it, but you're not going to remember.
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Do you know the difference between dry aged and wet aged?
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Yeah, dry aged is done in a large, usually like a cooler, and they have a fan that circulates the air.
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Well, Adam Perry Lang, I became friends with him, and he had APL, which went under because of the fucking pandemic in LA. It was one of the best steakhouses.
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He was taking all these experiments in dry-aging, and he would do, like, your 60-day dry-age, your 90-day dry-age, but he's like, you've got to try this stuff.
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It's, like, 365-day dry-aged, like, So it's got to be like muskier.
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It's not like I wouldn't want to have like a 16 ounce T-bone like that.
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But for a small piece, it was just really interesting.
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You'd be shocked how much we haven't caught it.
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There's a lot of self-help gurus these days than there ever has been in history.
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But when I was 21 years old, when I was first starting to do stand-up, I got Unlimited Power, which is one of his books.
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And I was living in Revere, Massachusetts with this shitty apartment.
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And I was writing things down and reading his book and trying to motivate myself and fucking get ahead in life.
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He's done a good job of curating really good inspirational ideas.
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We all did his birthday show once in Hollywood somewhere.
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He came to the comedy store and he was like, all those guys I liked, just hire him.
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And then Jeff Richards was like, no, I'm getting 1,500.
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Yeah, I mean, that guy's been selling inspiration for 40 years.
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You ever see the video of him going to, he has a house in Bali, and him making all his servants sing to him?
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I'm sure he would have a different version of this story.
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If you saw it, you can see the look in the gardener's face.
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He makes everyone stop working, and then they all do a traditional Bali chant.
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And you can see they're just like, oh, fucking...
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I could see that he still kind of had like a kid's approach to the whole thing.
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A group of people who worked at Namale had formed a semicircle to sing a traditional Fiji farewell song.
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I'm so sorry, but I look forward to coming back home to see all the family again.
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And that's why you're not successful, motherfucker.
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There's a few people there that are unenthusiastically clapping in that chain.
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I want to go back because we glossed over that we came back.
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When we were in the green room, you were talking about your blood pressure.
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You were talking about your inflammation and how good you feel just five days off of booze.
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My blood pressure dropped immediately into perfect blood pressure.
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Like, it's 140 over 90. If I'm partying hard, and then two days after drinking, it's 120 over 70. Two days?
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I mean, my stomach, my stomach starts making noises, like really aggressive.
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Yeah, it super inflamed, and then it just starts going, hmmm.
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That's a good impression of whatever the fuck was happening.
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I was farting so aggressively the first day not drinking.
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I was at the store, and I was trying to have a conversation with someone about disc golf, and I had my ass in the main room towards the bathroom, and I was ripping farts that were just coming.
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I think my inflammation is so bad, it kind of blocks up my stomach.
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But I don't think you account for how much you, like, when you drink normal Burt drinking, which is a lot, you also eat crazy.
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Last night, I grabbed those tacos and the bell pepper, brought it home, and I went, I don't want this.
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I gave it to John Manns and my assistant Peter.
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Literally multiple homeless people said, hey, are you eating that food?
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Yeah, I wanted to, but I got home and I went, hold on.
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So you were walking around and homeless people were asking you for your food?
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Where are you walking where homeless people are asking for your food?
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I just walked outside the Vulcan and there was a plethora of homeless people going, hey, can I get that food from you?
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Well, at first I took it because I hadn't eaten all day.
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Then you brought it back and you decided not to eat it.
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Here's one of the things that happened a little bit when I got this full metabolic blood panel, full comprehensive concierge doctor visit.
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And the guy said, we were talking about changing my lifestyle.
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And there was a period of time, Tom knows this, where I was throwing up while I slept and breathing it into my lungs.
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And I went to the doctor and the doctor said, listen man, this is going to affect your career.
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He goes, you've got to stop eating before you go to bed.
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Because I saw direct reflection in my career, I could do it.
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And so this other doctor, he's like, you need to lose weight.
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And he's like, here's why I think you can do that.
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Because you did it with the eating before you went to bed, so you can change your lifestyle.
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So last night when I went home, I brought the food, because that's my impulse.
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And I went, I'll be throwing this up in my throat all fucking night.
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So, I couldn't even tell you what was in the tacos.
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I have to keep switching arms from the push-ups.
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I can't hold a phone to my head for like two minutes.
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Unlike the liver king, I'll tell you the truth.
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My shoulders and chest, though, not bad, right?
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I walked by the mirror and I was like, I look good.
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I'll fluff myself alone in a hotel room to walk by the mirror just to see myself.
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You ever put a rubber band around your dick and balls, like the whole thing?
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Just to keep it all together in a package and just fucking keep that blood in there?
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They used to have Speedos that had cock rings in them that would shove your shit up front and you look awesome.
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So you go to this concierge service, you get all this blood panel done.
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And what is the guy, what kind of advice is he giving you?
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Like, when we sat down, he was like, much like Ari.
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He goes, you are high risk to literally have a stroke, a heart attack, and I went, actually, and by the way, we did quartered artery scans on my neck, did calcium.
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And he's like, and we haven't gotten the results yet, and I said, I actually go to a cardiologist every six months.
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It's kind of my thing is I wake up, I party, and then I wake up, and then I work out hard as fuck.
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He goes, trust me, What you're telling me, if you work out, you'll have a stroke and you're going to die.
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Actually, he's probably telling you that because most people would.
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But is he telling you it's based on the volume of alcohol?
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Based on just a conversation, an interview of like, how much do you drink, my weight.
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Most people who would drink, like he drinks, would not be active.
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And so I told him, I said, hey man, I'm not going to change anything.
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If you want to have that conversation, when we get my blood work back and all my tests, that's fine.
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I said I don't think you're going to find any blockage anywhere because I've already had all these.
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Usually I go until I work out pretty fucking hard.
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Blood work comes back like two days later, three days later, and he's like, I don't know what to tell you.
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From what you're telling me, either you're lying to me, He's got a test for the mantle gene.
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If you didn't drink and party and you just worked out all the time, I think you'd be a freak athlete.
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I think you're one of those guys that if you just didn't party at all and hit the gym and trained your whole life, you'd be a fucking freak.
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Working out sober hard, I don't think I've ever worked out this hard sober with direction.
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And then every break, you've got to run back to your car, smoke a bunch, and come back.
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But getting high and lifting weights, man, you just fucking, you feel like every fiber of your muscles, like when you're doing chin-ups when you're high, it's like you feel like...
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Well, in India, a lot of the yogis, they smoke chillums.
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Dude, I know a guy with a hot yoga studio in his office.
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It's bigger than this room, and it has its own heating system.
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And so it's completely isolated from the rest of the gym, so you can crank it up to 105, whatever the fuck you want.
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I know a lot of guys who do, there's a company that makes an infrared sauna that's designed specifically for working out in it.
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I use the traditional rock sauna, like the hot rocks.
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I do 185. Infrared is a little more sustainable, meaning I had an infrared one for a while.
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But infrared, you can go in and actually sit in there for 35 minutes and you build.
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The problem is the reason why it's uncomfortable when you're going really hot is that's what you need because that's how your body builds the heat shock proteins.
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There's not the same kind of studies that are done on infrared saunas.
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The 20-year Finland study, there's a Finland study that showed a 40% decrease in all-cause mortality for people who use the sauna four times a week, 20 minutes at a time, and I think it's 170, 175 degrees.
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But they showed a 40% decrease in strokes, heart attacks, like everything.
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You're sitting there and your heart is jet- like I wore the heart strap the other day.
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It's like 134, 135, so your head is like a slow, steady heart, because I'm hot as balls in there.
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But the thing is, this is definitely better than no sauna.
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But the thing about the hot sauna, this is what Laird Hamilton told me.
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Infrared's meant to increase your core body temperature before your skin.
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The studies on sauna and longevity and health that came out of Finland were these really amazing studies that I was just citing.
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And the thing about the regular sauna is it's more uncomfortable, but the more uncomfortable one is the one that jacks your heart rate up, and it also makes your body work harder, and that's what produces the heat shock proteins.
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At least that's what I've been told, and this is talking to Dr. Rhonda Patrick and Laird Hamilton.
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Andrew Huberman and all these scientists where they're talking about the specific things that happen in your body.
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It produces these anti-inflammatory heat shock proteins that are just fucking phenomenal for everything.
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When I'm on the road and I come home, sometimes I'll get home at night and everyone's asleep, I'll just fire up the fucking sauna.
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My dad has one in his basement, and it's just like, they all go to sleep.
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And with the combination of that and the cold plunge, so when I get home, I get in the sauna, I got a Seleuze sauna, and then I got that Morosco Forge at home, and we have the Blue Cube here, which is pretty dope, too.
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The Blue Cube cold plunge, the water circulates, so it's like you're in a fucking river.
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You never get a thermal layer around your skin, so you're never comfortable.
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When you get out of that fucking thing after three minutes, you're like, ah.
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Did you ever see the video I did where I had my whoop on, and I did my heart rate in the sauna, and then I went right into the polar plunge, and it went from 145 to 65 in like three minutes.
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It's sped up, so you can see it, but my whoop, I fucking...
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I can't tell if I slept good unless I look at my fucking recovery next morning.
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Do you have different recovery since you stopped drinking?
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Oh, well, my recovery on tequila is better than my recovery without alcohol.
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140, and then I just get in the sauna, you'll see it.
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I gotta keep my hand out so my Whoop monitors it.
00:31:17.000
If you put your hand under, the Whoop won't monitor it?
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What temperature do you keep your cold plunge at?
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For the average person listening, they're going, oh, I should get one.
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And then you go and you're like, oh, it's $12,000.
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I got one sent to me by Cold Plunge, I think the name of the company.
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You know, you just fill a tub up with cold water and go to the fucking, you know...
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That's how I used to do it, was with a bathtub.
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And how we do it on the road, we travel with a bathtub.
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You can get ice out of venues cheap, but no one's performing in fucking venues that have ice.
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It's $300 for 300 pounds of ice, and you need definitely like 100 pounds of ice to be able to do a cold plunge in.
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So then you think about if you use it for a year, you're really better off getting a real cold plunge.
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I climb in it, and I'm pushing ice away to get in there.
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I do four minutes and do some box breathing in there.
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I don't think you notice the difference between 40 and 30. Really?
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I got mine at 50. I started at 50 just to see what it was.
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I mean, if you're going from nothing to 50, you're like, it's cold as fuck to get into 50 degrees.
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And I felt like within days, I could notice the difference going to like 46 felt so much colder than 50. And it was only four degrees.
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And I told them I'd give them $1,000 if they could do a minute in it.
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I just wanted to show them that they could do it.
00:33:47.000
And were they fucking losing their minds, or they were pretty concerned?
00:33:57.000
Dude, I met a guy at the schvitz who's a fan of yours.
00:34:02.000
I took $300 in a plastic bag and put a rock in it at a party, and I threw it in the pool.
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One of Georgia's friends fully closed dives in the pool!
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But these kids were so pumped, and their parents were like, are you serious?
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Like, yeah, look, it's like, for them to do, it's a hard thing to do.
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And I'm showing them, if you can do this very difficult thing, a minute and a cold plunge when you're fucking...
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Were their parents like, hey, Joe, can I get a grand to find something?
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Probably were, but they probably didn't want to say it.
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You know, that's the story that will last longest with you in your life, is those kids will never fucking forget that.
00:34:46.000
And they're just thinking about all the things.
00:34:59.000
And I get, like, whatever the year is, I get that all in crisp ones.
00:35:09.000
We play a game called Spoons, where, you know, you put five spoons on the table, six kids are playing, and you pass cards, go around, and...
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And anytime anyone gets four of a kind, everyone reaches for a spoon and they fight for it.
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I go, alright, Game of Spoons, a hundred bucks.
00:35:35.000
He was there, and I was pretty drunk, and I was fucking shirtless, making kids fight.
00:35:39.000
And he was like, I'm such a big fan, I love The Godfather, and Stone was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
00:36:03.000
We smoked weed and talked about JFK. That is your dream conversation.
00:36:09.000
The only thing that could be better if he knows a lot about the pyramids.
00:36:15.000
It was because, like, he's talking about the events that led up to the JFK assassination and all the cover-up and everything after the fact, and he's citing it from memory.
00:36:25.000
I mean, in-depth details of the Kennedy assassination, just right from memory.
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And this is, like, around the time that the Showtime documentary on the – I don't know if you've ever seen it.
00:36:36.000
It's got a Showtime series on the JFK. I saw his series where he went to Russia.
00:36:44.000
He went to Russia with Putin and they watched Dr. Strangelove.
00:36:51.000
And they talked about, you know, all of kind of Putin policies.
00:36:58.000
He said that Putin was being treated for cancer back then.
00:37:02.000
I bet they got a new treatment that no one knows about.
00:37:06.000
There was a treatment that was just in the news the other day where they get...
00:37:14.000
There's like a mild version of the herpes virus that they gave someone.
00:37:18.000
They injected it into them and it killed their cancer.
00:37:24.000
On the sly, you're like, you know, no one that has herpes has never gotten cancer.
00:37:37.000
A man's cancer vanished after he was injected with a weakened herpes virus in promising clinical trial.
00:37:43.000
Imagine that, like guys with herpes would just be lining up to bang chicks with breast cancer.
00:37:50.000
How great would it be to have to go catch herpes to cure your cancer?
00:37:53.000
Imagine if you're a woman and you have ovarian cancer, and they're like, I got good news and bad news.
00:38:00.000
The good news is my cousin has herpes, and he's willing to cure you.
00:38:06.000
The only way, but you've got to get it all the way up in there, so he's got to shoot a live one down the hatch.
00:38:12.000
So we're going to have to plan it with your ovulation to make sure that you're not getting his pregnant, his baby.
00:38:20.000
Yeah, but that's one of the cool things is like, you know, they find things out sometimes accidentally.
00:38:25.000
You always wonder, too, what the most powerful people have access to.
00:38:31.000
But then something will happen, like Paul Allen, you know, the Microsoft co-founder?
00:38:37.000
Well, he was really unhealthy and didn't exercise at all.
00:38:41.000
But he just got, I think, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, or whatever, some cancer, and then he just declined and died.
00:38:49.000
And he also, just because you're wealthy doesn't mean you get after it.
00:38:55.000
Because the other people in your life are like, this motherfucker dies, okay.
00:39:05.000
You probably wouldn't be really encouraging them to go to the oncologist.
00:39:11.000
These doctors don't know what they're talking about.
00:39:19.000
I think his sister, somebody who had nothing to do with anything, just took over his estate.
00:39:29.000
Yeah, it happens to be his sister, and now she's ballin'.
00:39:33.000
You didn't do anything to earn it, and then all of a sudden you have billions.
00:39:36.000
There's that great Bill Burbit about Tiger Woods' ex-wife.
00:39:39.000
He's like, you didn't stand over an eight-foot putt with a fucking green jacket on the line, having the yips, having to fucking do it.
00:39:46.000
Yeah, and then he had a bit about Kobe Bryant, too.
00:39:53.000
About when I was talking about that age-appropriate lady.
00:39:56.000
I said, those are the eyes you want to look in when you die.
00:39:59.000
You don't want to look at some 21-year-old girl on your deathbed.
00:40:05.000
She's got the rolled-up mat under her armpit while you're dying.
00:40:19.000
Her fucking hot yoga instructor is ready to comfort her.
00:40:34.000
We should tell him what Andrew Huberman told him.
00:40:39.000
We were on the phone with him during a podcast, and he had just posted that week about...
00:40:45.000
He'll have topics and themes for his podcast, right?
00:40:53.000
There is just clear data that is undeniable that alcohol has negative effects on you.
00:41:03.000
And here's all the data, you know, breaking down how it affects the brain and the organs of the system.
00:41:08.000
And then he's like, well, I mean, like, what can, you know, can I drink?
00:41:14.000
Studies show that if you want to have one to two drinks, and he goes, a week.
00:41:28.000
There was a study recently that linked decline in cognitive function to abstinence from alcohol.
00:41:40.000
Dementia decline from alcohol is correlated with abstinence from alcohol.
00:41:46.000
Yeah, no, they think that people who don't drink alcohol, I don't know if correlation doesn't equal causation, right?
00:41:57.000
And I was talking about this with my dad last time, my stepdad.
00:42:04.000
He has a lot of past going into that statement.
00:42:12.000
He has always been a guy after work, works hard, has a drink.
00:42:19.000
And I was like, I think there's something to be said for that.
00:42:22.000
I think this is something to be said for just the way it makes you feel.
00:42:25.000
Increased risk for all-cause dementia and people who abstain from alcohol.
00:42:29.000
A recent addiction journal paper, researchers performed an in-depth analysis of the alcohol-dementia relationship and determined whether certain levels of alcohol consumption increases the risk of dementia.
00:42:39.000
And so they found out that there's an increase in dementia.
00:42:44.000
Dementia generally affects the elderly and geriatric patients, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:42:49.000
Global presence of dementia, what does it say here?
00:42:51.000
Excessive alcohol consumption in midlife can cause significant neurotoxic effects on the brain as compared to other risk factors such as high blood pressure and diabetes.
00:43:03.000
Despite these different reports, views of population-based observational studies indicate that alcohol-dementia relationship is J-shaped.
00:43:11.000
More specifically, low levels of alcohol may provide some juice.
00:43:18.000
More specifically, low levels of alcohol may provide some benefit in reducing the risk of dementia, whereas excessive alcohol consumption, BERT, likely increases the risk of dementia in a dose-dependent manner.
00:43:30.000
So I think there's something about, like, you get home, you fucking hard day at the office, have a cocktail, you're like...
00:43:45.000
You remember I texted you when I was in Italy on vacation?
00:44:06.000
We spent the summer at the ocean, and here we live on a lake.
00:44:16.000
I got a house once for three months when I was in Malibu.
00:44:20.000
We were getting our kitchen remodeled, and I said, let's just rent a house.
00:44:25.000
You're eating breakfast, and the water's right there.
00:44:31.000
There's a reason why they're paying fucking $100 million for a house that's like a quarter of an acre.
00:44:36.000
The ultimate was, you know, we'd always talked about surfing, and I've always wanted to surf.
00:44:44.000
I said, I'm going to go to Hawaii at the end of two months.
00:44:48.000
Because my hardest part is standing up on a board when you're fat.
00:44:52.000
Flew my daughter right before she went to college.
00:44:54.000
My sister, my cameraman, and my assistant down.
00:45:06.000
And there is a genuine, surreal connection with the Earth when you're on a board sliding down a wave.
00:45:14.000
And you're moving over on the wave and you're just watching it.
00:45:17.000
It's the coolest fucking thing that I've ever done.
00:45:22.000
Like, Nathan Florence and Kai Lenny and Koa Rothman, who do, they're like fucking savages, and they're going into Jaws, towed in, and you're just like...
00:45:35.000
Those guys are adrenaline junkies to the extreme.
00:45:37.000
But the connection those guys have with the ocean is so primal.
00:45:53.000
And when at low tide, sometimes low tide would be, let's say, at 8 a.m.
00:45:56.000
So you'd look out, and the water would be so far out that there would be rocks that you normally don't see, right?
00:46:09.000
Dude, high tide made me respect and fear the ocean so much.
00:46:16.000
Because it would come up and hit the house with such violence on some days that you would go, if I, an adult who can swim, were down here right now, most likely you would drown.
00:46:31.000
I know, but when you're living there, when you're living there, you're like, holy shit.
00:46:37.000
Well, you know the difference for me was at night.
00:46:40.000
During the day, the ocean is like this beautiful, inviting, wonderful thing.
00:46:46.000
And you just realize, oh my god, that's like a fucking hundred trillion gallons of water.
00:46:51.000
The guy who discovered Hawaii, not discovered, obviously there are people there first, John Cook.
00:47:03.000
I just, when I was in Hawaii, I watched, I listened to the documentary.
00:47:20.000
I think I could learn to swim in about 10 minutes.
00:47:29.000
I think it's so built up in your head that by the time you get in there, it's panic.
00:47:39.000
He went in and he tried to escape, get to the water, and he just had to stop at the water because he's like, I don't know what to do in there.
00:47:44.000
He fucking traveled the world, discovered the Sandwich Islands and all of Hawaii.
00:47:58.000
What a fucking weird thing to not know how to do.
00:48:01.000
I can understand if you don't grow up near a pool and you never learn.
00:48:07.000
There's a lot of comics that don't know how to swim.
00:48:34.000
He talked about it on stage, how he can't swim, and you won't say it.
00:48:41.000
I went backstage, and I was like, that's fucking hilarious.
00:48:56.000
No, he was taking swimming lessons, and it was hilarious that you're a grown man.
00:49:00.000
So, if he took swimming lessons, now he knows how to swim.
00:49:16.000
I had a dog, my Mastiff, he never learned how to swim.
00:49:21.000
I'd pick him up, I'd take him in the water, and you'd just swim right back to the stairs.
00:49:27.000
Marshall, the golden retriever, it's like in his DNA. When he was a puppy, when he was a puppy, we were in the pool, and he's like, fuck yeah, woo!
00:49:49.000
I mean, if the ball's underwater, he'll go underwater.
00:49:58.000
The funniest fucking look on her face one time, she fell into the pool.
00:50:05.000
She fell into the pool, she got herself out of the pool, and I saw this look in her face.
00:50:09.000
She's by the pool, and you could see it in her eyes like, I just witnessed death, but I didn't figure it out.
00:50:17.000
And she's looking at me like, I almost just died!
00:50:23.000
Dude, I get bandit when we just have the look of like, I'm gonna put her in the pool.
00:50:26.000
Like, she'll be fine by the pool, and you look at her, she knows the look, and she's like, get the fuck away from me!
00:50:44.000
It's in his DNA. It's in his DNA, which is really wild.
00:50:50.000
Another thing that's really wild is the retriever aspect.
00:50:53.000
I didn't teach that dog at all to bring a ball back.
00:50:57.000
Like, the first time I ever threw a ball to him, he picks it up and he brings it back.
00:51:03.000
He doesn't know how to let it go, but he brings it back.
00:51:05.000
Like, the other day, I came home, I let him outside, and then I left the door open and went to the bathroom.
00:51:13.000
I came out of the bathroom, and he's got a squirrel in his mouth.
00:51:22.000
But he came to me to retrieve and bring a squirrel.
00:51:25.000
Whatever they did to breed those dogs, it's encoded in their memory.
00:51:33.000
You know, and it's also, those dogs, like Goldens, they are the nicest dogs.
00:51:44.000
Everybody who comes over to my house, like, you're my best friend!
00:51:53.000
And show, like, he brings something because, like, those dogs were rewarded for bringing back, like, birds.
00:52:02.000
And he just will bring something to you immediately.
00:52:07.000
What they're bred for, because we had Brussels Griffons, and they're bred for rat chasers.
00:52:12.000
So when they see rodents, squirrels, and stuff, they'll be like...
00:52:19.000
Have you ever seen that documentary, Rats, on Netflix?
00:52:25.000
Well, it's about a lot of cities, and it's also about the countryside.
00:52:28.000
Jack Russell Terriers were actually designed or bred for killing rats.
00:52:32.000
They're really aggressive with rats, and they fucking tear them apart.
00:52:37.000
And in this documentary, they use them to get rats.
00:52:40.000
And so they let these dogs loose, and they find rats in this countryside.
00:52:45.000
There's a service you can get to go if you have a backyard in New York where you just have these terriers just piss all over your yard.
00:52:51.000
Hunt some rats piss and the rat's like, that's not a safe yard.
00:52:59.000
So these guys, they're digging holes to try to find these rats.
00:53:03.000
Because, like, there's these rat little, you know, dens and shit, and these dogs find them, and they're the cutest little dogs, man, but not to rats.
00:53:20.000
But meanwhile, these rats have fucking diseases, so your dog is swallowing the plague.
00:53:39.000
Like, where are they getting all their diseases?
00:54:23.000
They would swim out the sea and people would rescue them thinking they're dogs.
00:54:27.000
You're on the island, because we were doing Guantanamo Bay.
00:54:47.000
They pay a dude, a couple people, just to go around at night with a.22, and they're like, just shoot as many as you can, because you can't keep them down.
00:55:02.000
Nutria is an invasive species that, I forget where it came from, but they got over in America on ships or something like that, and now they're everywhere.
00:55:11.000
I've never screamed higher pitch in my life than when we pulled up to do a gig in Guantanamo Bay.
00:55:17.000
And the guy driving the van, he's like a naval base, you know, pulls up and the lights are on.
00:55:23.000
And he's like, oh, there's a banana rat right there.
00:55:32.000
And we all start walking closer and closer, taking our time step by step.
00:55:37.000
And then we're like a few feet away and we kind of bend down.
00:55:40.000
And one of the guys takes his fingers and goes like this up my back.
00:56:01.000
That would be fun to have you in your backyard just with a.22 just at night.
00:56:05.000
I shot a rat one time with my BB gun at our old house.
00:56:15.000
It was crawling up on the wire, and I had my BB gun.
00:56:45.000
So they were killing them to try to diminish the population, but in a lot of the country, people eat them.
00:56:53.000
See if you can find Nutria cooking, because apparently they taste good.
00:57:04.000
My friend took a photo of a pump near San Francisco.
00:57:07.000
We're talking about how your dog wants to dive and wants to retrieve, and Ari's looking at gas prices.
00:57:17.000
When Ari was doing really well when Ari was not that you're not doing really well now But like when he started doing really well and had a Comedy Central show and he's killing like dude get a fucking BMW Yeah, get yourself a nice three series just something that feels good to drive like it's too expensive Why would I do that?
00:57:35.000
It's just extra expense then I'm tied to that I went up and down too much You're on the borderline of getting a day job.
00:57:44.000
That's ingrained in, I think, guys, me and you, maybe not Tom as much, but I've always had a problem spending money.
00:58:11.000
It's how you get the green light is that you know the person, and then they go, I bring out the inventory.
00:58:21.000
And she goes, and I just can't pull myself to pull the trigger.
00:58:45.000
This is the one that's comfortable to because it's on a silicone strap.
00:58:59.000
You should have seen him in the green room last night doing girl sit-ups.
00:59:11.000
You've got to realize, like, we have all been working out during this time.
00:59:35.000
It's a nice, kind of subtle, not too flashy, but a really well-made watch.
00:59:51.000
Yeah, I want to get him something that's under the radar, but it's a nice, really well-made automatic watch.
00:59:58.000
No, you actually look like a grown-up all of a sudden.
01:00:21.000
What if you do, get one with like a Star of David on the dial.
01:00:41.000
Early on, old school Joe Rogan was not a watch guy.
01:00:44.000
I remember him saying, like, I'm not buying fucking fancy watches.
01:01:00.000
I was at a jewelry store once, and this guy was explaining to me how they make diamonds now, like, artificially.
01:01:07.000
And he was like, yeah, but it's a real problem.
01:01:10.000
And he was coming at it from a diamond seller's perspective.
01:01:14.000
He's like, well, you know, I go, is it a real diamond?
01:01:19.000
It's not legit because it doesn't come from the ground.
01:01:25.000
Yeah, but people get upset if they find out that it's artificial.
01:01:31.000
If you make an actual diamond with a machine, why do you give a fuck if it came from the ground?
01:01:36.000
I would actually want it more if it came from technology.
01:01:45.000
I want someone with one hand missing delivering it to me.
01:01:48.000
I want a testimonial from the fucking orphan children.
01:01:51.000
But women do not want that fucking man-made diamond.
01:01:57.000
The one that's hard to get that came from fucking the middle of Africa.
01:02:04.000
That's an Omega with a little earth in the center of it.
01:02:26.000
It's because of the complications, though, for sure.
01:02:34.000
If you go back to the dial, I'm sure it has, like, the first picture.
01:02:47.000
Rolex made a steel watch for Pan Am that, for a comedian, is the best watch and affordable.
01:02:53.000
Its dial up here is GMT. And its dial up here is so that when you go on the road, you can change it and it'll tell you the time of where you are, but you can keep it on New York time.
01:03:19.000
If you have something that's under the radar, then you'll probably be alright.
01:03:28.000
Yeah, you don't want to turn people off with looking at your wrist.
01:03:39.000
Yeah, if you're like right in the front row and some guy's wearing a $50,000 watch, that's a little distracting.
01:03:46.000
But you always say you have trouble spending money, and I don't believe it.
01:03:52.000
So I sent Tom a text at this Rolex place in Vegas.
01:04:07.000
Well, I like looking at him, so I leave the place.
01:04:21.000
You deserve to treat yourself every now and then.
01:04:29.000
Next day, I'm sitting and having coffee, looking at the watch going, God damn it, I love this fucking watch.
01:04:37.000
I said, hey man, I appreciate you sending me that message.
01:04:39.000
Leanne tried to convince me, and I wouldn't do it, but your message meant so much to me.
01:04:46.000
I sent you that message and I realized that shit applies to me too.
01:04:58.000
Because Tommy and me have the same love of cars.
01:05:04.000
I remember when he just bought the Porsche, the blue one, and then you got another one.
01:05:25.000
I rented one like about two years ago or so on the road.
01:05:36.000
There's something that there's a feel that you get when you drive them.
01:05:46.000
It used to be you had to buy a car and then put stereos in them.
01:06:04.000
I always look at guys who are driving on sunset in a nice car, and I go, are you guys not partying tonight?
01:06:15.000
I said to Georgia, I said, Georgia, this is going to be your car.
01:06:19.000
She goes, I'm not driving a 5 Series BMW to school looking like a rich kid.
01:06:26.000
She goes, Dad, I want a regular car like an Explorer.
01:06:31.000
She goes, yeah, but I don't want to look like a rich kid.
01:06:33.000
I said, so I'm going to spend an extra $20,000 so you don't look like a fucking rich kid?
01:06:48.000
That 5 Series was the first car I got that I was like, Oh, this can be fun.
01:06:53.000
Yeah, but when you showed up in the S-Class, you were big ballin', dude.
01:07:02.000
You're in that thing, you feel like a fucking comfortable gentleman.
01:07:07.000
Driving back from the store the other night, listening to little fucking Daryl Hall and O's flying through the hills.
01:07:26.000
It's nice to pull out of the store and just be sober.
01:07:30.000
Oh my god, my favorite thing was coming down Laurel, and I'd be listening to some fucking jamming Rage Against the Machine, headed to the store.
01:07:55.000
It's also like you're on your way to the fucking promised land.
01:08:07.000
And I always knew that I had to get to the comedy store.
01:08:10.000
I'm like, if I'm going to be a comic, I have to get to the comedy store.
01:08:12.000
When Mitzi passed me as a paid regular, it was one of the best days of my life.
01:08:20.000
I can't believe I'm passed at the comedy store.
01:08:25.000
That place, it was just not a comedy club, man.
01:08:27.000
Did she tell you or did they call you the next day?
01:08:40.000
I was 42 and I had TV shows, a successful touring comic.
01:08:54.000
I got bumped by Judd Apatow for my one paid regular spot.
01:08:59.000
It's midnight, and I get off stage, and I said this last night when I brought him on stage.
01:09:04.000
Tony Hinchcliffe pulls me aside, and he goes, I always have a soft spot in my heart for that guy.
01:09:14.000
And I went outside, and he was like, it's a big deal.
01:09:17.000
I did a toast, I did a thing, and I was like, fuck yeah, thank you, Tony.
01:09:25.000
There's two things that I remember from the store that were like landmark moments.
01:09:28.000
One was becoming a paid regular, and two, Paul Mooney told me I was funny.
01:09:37.000
And Paul Mooney did not like me when I first got there.
01:09:43.000
I was just like, you know, I was like, okay, but one night he saw me, it was like 14 people in the crowd.
01:09:57.000
I don't remember what bit it was, but I remember he shook my hand, he put his hand on my shoulder, he goes, you're a funny motherfucker.
01:10:14.000
Like, Paul Mooney, people don't know how goddamn good Paul Mooney was.
01:10:21.000
When shit would go down, something would happen, and he would have like 10 minutes of it that night.
01:10:28.000
It was like one of them budget airlines that crashed in Florida, and he had this bit about these poor people clutching onto their purse while alligators were eating them.
01:10:40.000
And then he was like, that's right, motherfucker, I write.
01:10:45.000
Patrice pulled me aside one night in New York, and we were at Caroline's.
01:10:53.000
And everyone starts leaving, and he grabs me and goes, don't leave.
01:10:56.000
He goes, Paul Mooney, this is a gift, because I didn't know who Paul Mooney was.
01:11:04.000
So I ordered a beer, and I sat down, and I go, I was like, it's getting late, Patrice.
01:11:15.000
And he goes, if Eddie Murphy's coming to watch him, we're staying.
01:11:19.000
And me and Patrice watched Paul Mooney and Paul Mooney had a bottle of champagne on stage, drank the whole fucking thing.
01:11:26.000
He would drink them and he would make a joke and then like hold the bottle up with two fingers.
01:11:32.000
And you'd hear Eddie Murphy, whatever his laugh is.
01:11:55.000
Being in the main room one night and I called you up and you were on a motorcycle in Vietnam.
01:12:05.000
Because he called and I was like, he's like, what are you doing?
01:12:09.000
I'm running through motorcycles through rice paddies in Vietnam.
01:12:14.000
You got to fucking get away from this Travel Channel shit.
01:12:18.000
If you don't talk about this on stage, you're wasting your life.
01:12:26.000
And I'm still high and drunk, hanging up with Joe, and I'm flying on the motorcycle now.
01:12:31.000
And then my wife calls, and I was like, she's like, what's up?
01:12:34.000
And I was like, well, it works so well with Joe.
01:12:36.000
I'm drunk, I'm high on a motorcycle, and I'm flying through Rice Paddy's in Vietnam.
01:12:41.000
You're a father of two, you have high blood pressure, walk that thing home!
01:12:46.000
What a different way of looking at the same situation.
01:12:48.000
Can you imagine, though, being a woman, and you're waiting on this guy, and he's making a living.
01:12:54.000
You're the breadwinner of the household, and you're a wild person.
01:13:02.000
If you break your leg, they're just going to saw it off.
01:13:07.000
I mean, imagine counting on someone like you, whereas a friend is like, yes!
01:13:14.000
But I don't, you know, I don't rely on you for money.
01:13:24.000
Hey guys, this weekend, Youngstown, Charlottesville, Florence, and Carlston.
01:13:33.000
Are you going to come do an episode of Something's Burning?
01:13:38.000
Because Eddie Bravo is one of the funniest guys that's ever lived.
01:13:51.000
And so I make him Tito's and soda, and me and him start going drink for drink, Tito's and soda, and he is on a fucking burner.
01:14:05.000
At one point, I go, Eddie, you stand in front of the Lord, and you got one thing to tell him you do great.
01:14:09.000
And he goes, I choke out motherfuckers with my legs.
01:14:17.000
He told a story about fucking a girl with a stinky pussy and stinky feet.
01:14:27.000
He said it was blue and yellow and mixed green.
01:14:41.000
And then, by the way, I had to do an integration for Solo Stoves.
01:14:46.000
And then at the end, to pay for the thing, we all go outside and do an integration.
01:14:53.000
I don't remember having itching sauce by when I was a kid.
01:14:59.000
She goes, and I go, hey, Isla, you've always wanted to do jujitsu.
01:15:02.000
And Eddie's like, and you know, Eddie's like, you'll never get raped.
01:15:11.000
Eddie is the, I'm telling you man, he's the fucking greatest.
01:15:14.000
He let me train, when I was at my port, he let me train free for like two years.
01:15:18.000
Dude, he, man, that guy, he murdered the heart.
01:15:35.000
So many great episodes, but I'll tell you the one I'm looking forward to.
01:15:52.000
And I go, well, and Whitney, you know, Tim, if you were making meals, what would you make us?
01:15:57.000
And he looks at it and he goes, Percocet pudding, Whitney.
01:16:01.000
That's his first joke, because it's got Percocets in it, which you like, and it's pudding.
01:16:17.000
He did a rant on this podcast about the decline of the American empire.
01:16:31.000
And I look over, she's smiling, and she's nodding, and she goes, who is this guy?
01:16:37.000
I go, yeah, he's coming to the house next week.
01:16:41.000
So I'm doing the podcast with Tim, and Isla comes down.
01:16:45.000
She's like, I go, hey, Tim, give Isla some life advice.
01:16:55.000
All those guys, that generation, the Mark Norman, Tim Dillon.
01:17:03.000
I'm sitting at Dane Cook's special with Leanne.
01:17:10.000
I'm sitting with Leanne and we're watching his special before Dane's special starts.
01:17:15.000
Crying laughing and the people around me are looking over my shoulder Crying fucking laughing.
01:17:29.000
I know which is Have you seen the new bit he does about George Washington Museum?
01:17:34.000
Oh my god, it's a good bit It's one of those bits where after it's over.
01:17:39.000
He did it at the Ryman We did a this not happening at the Ryman it crushed The best was on Fully Loaded.
01:18:01.000
Shane Gillis goes on stage, and immediately I'm like, when he starts talking about Trump, I'm waiting for George to just cringe.
01:18:08.000
And I watch George and her friend, and he goes into the George Washington thing, and the black guy comes out, and he goes, get back there!
01:18:16.000
And George and her friend are like, and they're laughing.
01:18:26.000
And I know you're not supposed to laugh at this.
01:18:33.000
And every time Shane would go on, Shane, Attell, Big J. Big J is doing fucking...
01:18:45.000
And then the whole time, they just hung out with these guys.
01:18:48.000
Last night, Shane Gillis comes up to George and her friend.
01:19:07.000
Dude, watching kids, like, young kids that are supposed to be woke, watch great comedy.
01:19:15.000
They love the release of laughing at something wrong.
01:19:19.000
And they're like, oh, we've been missing this part.
01:19:21.000
It's because there's not a lot of it out there.
01:19:25.000
You know, comedy, like, the idea that that is, like...
01:19:28.000
That it's bad to laugh at things that are obviously hilarious.
01:19:32.000
It's like that this person has bad intentions when they're saying these things.
01:19:47.000
I mean, that's one of the things that infuriated me so much about people getting mad at Louie's leak set when that was all going down, where they were saying, you know...
01:19:56.000
Not always in a workout set, it's exactly what he's always done.
01:20:00.000
That was the part that was great when they were like, this guy's jumped.
01:20:08.000
He hasn't changed his philosophy in life at all.
01:20:14.000
He just says the things you're not supposed to say that are hilarious.
01:20:27.000
We're living in the presence of fucking some of the greatest people of all time in our profession.
01:20:33.000
Yes, and the crop coming up now is fucking amazing.
01:20:41.000
When David Lucas and Tony Hinchcliffe go after each other on Kill Tony, I was a guest on Kill Tony the other day.
01:20:55.000
And he's so good at talking shit to Tony, and Tony's so good off the cuff.
01:21:00.000
Tony's the best host of that kind of a show that's ever existed.
01:21:20.000
Carrie Mitchell just sent me a photo of the new bar in the middle of the construction.
01:21:34.000
Oh, you're definitely coming out for the opening week, brother.
01:21:43.000
We don't know, but it'll probably be somewhere around January.
01:21:52.000
Well, we're going to have some soft openings anyway.
01:22:06.000
I took Norman and almost killed that motherfucker.
01:22:12.000
I'm like, throw some drinks into like a planter or something.
01:22:17.000
He was like, we get up, we drink, and the next morning I'm like, oh, I feel like I'm shitting blood.
01:22:23.000
And then Bert's like, you want to go for a run?
01:22:26.000
Well, I think that's what keeps you healthy, that keeps you balanced, is that you do exercise.
01:22:33.000
You put the alcohol stressor and then you jack up your metabolism and all your fucking hormones and everything for running and exercise.
01:22:42.000
It's weird because I don't have the punitive voice in my head where I wake up and I go, all right, you did this to yourself.
01:22:49.000
Like this morning, my alarm went off at 6.30 and I was like, eh, I'll just keep sleeping.
01:22:57.000
But if I drank last night, I'd be up at 6.30 in the gym.
01:23:06.000
That's what I was trying to tell you last night.
01:23:12.000
That's what I miss the most during Sober October's weed.
01:23:19.000
I don't have the deep bags under my eyes when I don't drink.
01:23:24.000
My brother sent me a picture of Bert and was like, oh look, his skin looks better already.
01:23:28.000
And then I was laughing at it, but I was actually being serious.
01:23:36.000
I was telling this to Ari, the number one thing that I noticed, I deflate, my face deflates in a second.
01:23:42.000
I have had times where I've been partying so hard that my phone won't recognize my face because I just bloated.
01:24:02.000
You know the thing that I feel like I try to tackle the most, that I struggle with the most, is sleep.
01:24:11.000
So if I get into a habit of working out, it's not...
01:24:14.000
I mean, the workouts can be challenging, but it's not like, man, I don't like doing this.
01:24:29.000
The thing that is, I think, the hardest for me to master, and I try to think about it more, is just getting good sleep.
01:24:36.000
Have you ever tried one of those eight sleep mattresses that cool you off?
01:24:41.000
I have one, and I haven't set it up yet, but every one that uses it says it's a fucking game changer.
01:24:48.000
I realized that I used to think that sleep happens to you.
01:24:57.000
And sort of start thinking in terms of, like, you know, I am in charge of at least attempting to make this a good night of sleep.
01:25:07.000
Don't look at your phone for an hour and a half before you go to sleep.
01:25:10.000
That shit that's in there does something to your eyes.
01:25:17.000
And then have dreams that I'm fucking in history.
01:25:22.000
She drives her crazy and I could fall asleep on the dirt.
01:25:27.000
Have you guys started the withdrawal dreams yet?
01:25:30.000
Oh, my withdrawal dreams are horrific, like being chased by wolves and shit.
01:25:49.000
Last night, my dream was that Aaron Judge came in for a pinch hit home run in the last game.
01:25:54.000
I'm being chased by wolves and I'm trying to figure out if I should climb a tree.
01:25:58.000
I fought a dude because he was pissed off that I fucked up his boat.
01:26:03.000
But I've been involved in violence for so long.
01:26:10.000
I've told this story before, but one time my wife, we had a hatchback, and she was taking something out of the back of the trunk, and she stood up, and she didn't know that the corner of the hatchback was right there, and she cut her head, and she's bleeding, like pouring blood down her face.
01:26:30.000
Put some crazy glue on it or we can go to the doctor.
01:26:38.000
Like, if I look at that cut, I would go, ah, we got crazy glue.
01:26:40.000
I'll put a little crazy glue in there and squeeze it together and put a little band-aid on it.
01:26:44.000
But, like, I'm so used to seeing people injured.
01:26:48.000
I've seen a thousand people knocked unconscious.
01:26:58.000
I know you'll never write a self-help book, but I want to find the motivators that cause greatness.
01:27:05.000
I liked Cam Haynes' book because he talked about his father and his relationship with his father, his father being a runner, and how that...
01:27:13.000
And ultimately how that drives him to run because it's something he's trying to...
01:27:17.000
I can connect with broken parts of men where I can find that brokenness in me and go, oh shit.
01:27:23.000
Because I was like, oh maybe that's why I fucking run.
01:27:31.000
You know, I'd be curious to know, because you're a pretty weird dude with, like, motivation.
01:27:36.000
You know, like, what motivates you to work out is like, well, I think about people raping my family.
01:27:51.000
You said, like, I think about people trying to kill me.
01:27:56.000
So if I'm in the middle of a workout and I'm tired, I say, imagine if I had saved a loved one's life right now.
01:28:08.000
Bert puts himself in the place of the attacker.
01:28:10.000
And he goes, well, if I was there, I may as well get some rape soon.
01:28:18.000
Whenever you see a serial killer who doesn't rape, you're like, what the fuck are you doing, dude?
01:28:24.000
It's so crazy if you're gonna kill not to rape.
01:28:42.000
Have you guys seen the Dahmer thing on Netflix?
01:28:49.000
There's a little bit of, you know, they obviously dramatize it to be compelling television.
01:28:55.000
They dramatize the story in terms of there are things that are not factually accurate, but there's things that are factually accurate, too.
01:29:13.000
You know, who's the fucking Arrow guy from Marvel?
01:29:23.000
My first commercial, he was doing one and he was like broke and he was getting sagged like, we'll give you some money to pay your rent kind of thing.
01:29:31.000
And he goes, yeah, I got a movie that hasn't come out yet, but we'll see.
01:29:35.000
And it was this independent Jeffrey Dahmer movie.
01:29:42.000
He was one of those Jason Bourne guys in one of the movies.
01:30:03.000
How different is that look to Dahmer to the new look to Dahmer?
01:30:06.000
The new look to Domino, it really looks like Dahmer.
01:30:22.000
Everybody else is the Hulk, and they fucking can do crazy shit, and Doctor Strange can summon other universes, and this dude's just shooting shitty arrows.
01:30:32.000
There's aliens flying around in spaceships and he's shooting arrows at them.
01:30:44.000
Anybody new comes in, they have a beef, like...
01:30:47.000
I mean, I've gone to see them, and you just go...
01:30:53.000
So I like more surprise, because, like, you know, you see the conflict coming, and then you go, this is going to have him down for a little bit.
01:31:00.000
Then the bad guy's going to, you know, look like he's going to win this thing, and then he will beat him.
01:31:06.000
Or even if the back guy wins, then they go, uh, we went back in time.
01:31:10.000
And what's wild is that they do billions at the box office every time.
01:31:20.000
I like when they show the real conflict of something.
01:31:35.000
The problem with Batman is he's just a rich guy.
01:31:42.000
He's at the peak of what you can do if you train.
01:31:51.000
Maybe I'll lean in to just do like November weed.
01:31:57.000
I'd love to be a weed guy, but it's just not my thing.
01:32:00.000
Well, you just like to get crazy and take your shirt off.
01:32:02.000
When you took your shirt off last night on stage and the place went nuts, there was a lady in the front row that got up and started doing this.
01:32:12.000
I was like, yeah, I don't want to introduce you.
01:32:15.000
And then you took the shirt off and took it to another level.
01:32:22.000
It's really important to do, I've found since the last time I did a spot there, it's really important to do short sets.
01:32:28.000
To stay loose in what your talent is, but it does not translate to theaters or arenas.
01:32:37.000
So much more conversational, so much more fun, so much more interactive, and then you go to an arena, and you're like, if you talk to one person in the front row, then there's fucking 12,000 other people going, I don't know what that guy looks like.
01:32:54.000
When I started doing theaters, Tom texted me and was like, he called me and he was like, just letting you know, it's a different pacing, it's a little bit of a different muscle.
01:33:05.000
And I remember my first theater gig, I was done in 35 minutes.
01:33:11.000
And I was like, I don't have that much material.
01:33:13.000
Like, I have a lot of fucking around with an audience.
01:33:15.000
And, hey, ask him a question I already have the answer to.
01:33:20.000
When you do theater, you, like, you got to fucking...
01:33:27.000
Like, you got to do the written, the best stuff.
01:33:29.000
But you also, on the other side, you hold laughs longer.
01:33:32.000
And it's important to do that because the people are still thinking about what you just said.
01:33:36.000
I told Tony he was doing his first theater, I think with Jeff Ross or something, and I was like, slow down.
01:33:45.000
And then he was afterwards like, that was really good advice.
01:33:54.000
Because it's very difficult to come up with new material.
01:33:56.000
You're not coming up with shit when you're doing 16,000 people.
01:34:07.000
Especially in town, like in town club comedy where you're like not the show.
01:34:13.000
Like if you're at the cellar, the audience is literally where you guys are.
01:34:18.000
You also feel like you could take a little bit of a risk in those big ass arenas, like a new line or something, and it doesn't land.
01:34:26.000
And you immediately are like, I'm going right back to what I know.
01:34:31.000
I don't know how anybody who just does arenas ever comes up with new material.
01:34:43.000
If you try an on-the-edge joke at the stand or somewhere where they don't know you, and then they don't go for it, you're just not going to get them back.
01:34:52.000
I don't know who you are, and I don't like this.
01:34:59.000
OR can be a fucking tricky whore who passes out in the middle of fucking.
01:35:04.000
A tricky whore that passes out in the middle of fucking you.
01:35:22.000
Every word that comes out of your mouth feels so scripted.
01:35:26.000
And you're like, I'm trying to work, goddammit.
01:35:28.000
Why won't you guys just go with me for a second?
01:35:33.000
If you come off the road, like when I opened for you and I'd be presentational and stuff, and you come back to, or just headlining, you come back to the store and it's just like, oh, I'm presenting instead of talking to them.
01:35:42.000
And you're following somebody who just was like...
01:35:44.000
Yeah, you follow Tony Woods or something like that, who's so natural.
01:35:55.000
Tony was in the green room, and there was this open miker that kept chiming in.
01:36:02.000
Because it was just a young guy who was just a little too eager and wanted to chime in, too.
01:36:08.000
And we're all just sitting there letting Tony rant.
01:36:11.000
He's like, motherfucker, do you hear me talking?
01:36:17.000
The guy was jumping in the middle of his brilliant rant.
01:36:28.000
I want to bring you with me to one of these fucking MGM grand shows.
01:36:35.000
If you bring me to one, you've got to bring me to two because I'm going to adjust.
01:36:38.000
I'm going to figure something out after I do it.
01:37:13.000
You look like a Canadian that just fucking came over on a fishing boat.
01:37:23.000
Have you thought about bringing This Is Not Happening back to some sort of a streaming platform or something?
01:37:44.000
When we did the MGM, when Brian Simpson, Tony, Hans Kim, and I did the MGM, we all got tailored suits from David August.
01:37:57.000
Jamie, you got that photo of all of us together?
01:38:02.000
Well, I have to wear suits that are made for me.
01:38:22.000
Maybe I'll get a suit at the end of Sober October.
01:38:33.000
Remember when you guys first did the weight loss challenge?
01:38:51.000
Well, it's amazing, the consistency in your workouts.
01:38:54.000
I mean, the real consistency, too, is on the road.
01:39:08.000
Yeah, so he's a real photographer and a certified, and he's fucking jacked.
01:39:13.000
So he's like, it's great because you're around somebody who's disciplined.
01:39:17.000
So every day it's like, you know, I look at what he eats, so I'm like, I'll eat that.
01:39:27.000
So you're just following someone's example, and then it becomes like a habit.
01:39:29.000
That's definitely easier to farm it off to someone.
01:39:34.000
I'm bringing my trainer on the road with me in October.
01:39:46.000
That's cool that you guys cut your hair, like, and look like each other.
01:39:48.000
People always, they're like, are you guys brothers?
01:39:57.000
But that is, that is a huge thing that you could do to bring someone on the road with you and train with them.
01:40:12.000
I mean, you know, you start moving, you know, better.
01:40:22.000
I mean, I'm going for another follow-up for the nerve stuff in like a couple weeks, but it's...
01:40:36.000
Your grip strength is definitely still weaker than the right hand.
01:40:40.000
And there is weight where your wrist will eventually collapse.
01:40:48.000
The weight will, so like if I'm holding dumbbells, I can hold them, but at a certain weight, let's say they're like 60 pound dumbbells or something, I'll be fine here, and you'll see this one just will start to go like that.
01:41:06.000
Oh yeah, it's a three year recovery, the nerves.
01:41:09.000
You know what I love, man, is rollers, where you get a roller with a cord and the weights at the bottom and you do this shit.
01:41:24.000
Tate Fletcher gave me a great speech about getting hurt.
01:41:30.000
And he was like, you know how I talk out my ass.
01:41:35.000
And he was like, you're a decommissioned athlete.
01:41:37.000
He's like, you think your body is what it was when you were a kid, and it's not, and that's how you get fucking hurt.
01:41:43.000
You think you can do everything you can do when you're a kid because you can do it when you're a kid?
01:41:47.000
And I was like, that was the first time I was like, oh, that's what happened when we played basketball.
01:41:55.000
I mean, it's exactly what he's saying, but especially when you get into jumping.
01:41:59.000
If you don't jump all the time, then you go, I'm going to jump my ass off today.
01:42:03.000
You have explosive movement, but you don't have explosive strength.
01:42:21.000
No, because, you know, I... I remember being real fat as a freshman in college and losing weight and thinking that a number was the goal.
01:42:30.000
At first, I was like, I want to weigh 225 because I saw NFL linebackers.
01:42:37.000
And then I got down to 225. I'm like, I don't look like them.
01:42:43.000
And even now, I'm 208, 209. I feel like if I go, oh, it's 200...
01:42:49.000
I'd rather just focus on what I feel like and look like and go, like, that's the weight that I'd rather be at than hunt the number.
01:43:00.000
So your weight is getting higher, but your body fat's getting lower.
01:43:07.000
I have a build that I should be, like, between 190 and 200, I think.
01:43:18.000
But as you're putting on muscle, I mean, maybe you'll be heavier.
01:43:32.000
Would you say it's over or I think under now because of a few days?
01:43:53.000
That's how I thought I would look at 225. I was like, I'll look like that.
01:44:02.000
So if you say that, you hold people to a standard.
01:44:06.000
Like an athlete, if you've competed at a high level, you see things at a high level.
01:44:11.000
Like Eddie, it's hard to bullshit with Eddie about false claims about exercise and stuff.
01:44:19.000
So I said to someone who goes, how much were you at your harvest?
01:44:27.000
There were days you were 270. You just didn't get on the scale.
01:44:36.000
I go, 265. That's the day I stepped on the scale thinking I was really 250. I was 211 when I got back from Italy.
01:44:47.000
Can I please leave that shirtless picture of you?
01:44:56.000
I did a photo shoot and I did one picture of me naked swinging a baseball bat and just randomly I saw like a delt and a bicep and then I spent the rest of the photo shoot trying to flex and you can't see anything.
01:45:15.000
If we can get you off the booze for a long period of time and get you working out, I think you would be a fucking freak athlete.
01:45:26.000
I think probably 247. When I saw you play tennis against Tom, I'm like, this motherfucker is an athlete.
01:45:40.000
You guys were doing Two Bears, and I heard you guys talk about archery.
01:45:51.000
I would have bet fucking 10 grand that you had done that.
01:45:53.000
We had a trick archer up there who was doing trick archery shots.
01:46:02.000
And so I go, hey, man, can I see your bow and arrow?
01:46:14.000
And he goes, no, we're like maybe 50 feet from the target.
01:46:19.000
And I line it up out of nowhere and just bullseye.
01:46:25.000
And I was like, but I like that energy more than being, I like talking shit and surprising someone.
01:46:37.000
It's the guy going, I can do a backflip, you know?
01:46:40.000
I just get obsessed with things until I just want to get perfected at it.
01:46:44.000
You never perfect something, but you get closer and closer and closer.
01:46:51.000
There's moments where you just know exactly where the ball's going.
01:46:55.000
I'd be curious if you looked at my form and my archery in that trick shot, if you go, oh, he knows what he's doing.
01:47:00.000
Well, it's a different kind of archery because what you're doing is traditional archery.
01:47:06.000
My shit is like, I use like a range finder and I have a scale on my sight where I range, like it's 65 yards.
01:47:14.000
I'll dial it into 65 yards and I'm shooting at 85 yards to an index card.
01:47:19.000
So at 85 yards, I'm shooting at something that's this big.
01:47:30.000
We were in Hawaii, and they have this archery course.
01:47:34.000
Well, I mean, I could do it, but I don't know how to aim.
01:47:38.000
You're supposed to aim, like, the way I do it is with compound bow.
01:47:42.000
And I pull it back, and it's all, like, centered to, it's all, the bow is matched to my frame.
01:47:48.000
So I have a 28 and a half inch draw, because that's how far my arms are when they're fully extended.
01:47:53.000
And then the peep sight is at, like, exactly, like, 5.7 inches here.
01:47:58.000
And I'm looking through this thing, and I center the housing with it.
01:48:02.000
It's like you're balancing all these things out together.
01:48:07.000
Because in that moment, you're not thinking about anything else other than the execution of the shot and making sure it releases perfectly.
01:48:14.000
And it's just, there's something about thinking about something that overcomes jujitsu and archery and pool.
01:48:22.000
You don't think about anything else other than that thing while you're doing it.
01:48:28.000
Archery in many ways is like a moving meditation.
01:48:32.000
Because you're so engrossed in the technique that you don't think about anything else.
01:48:40.000
And even if you never hunt or never do a competition or something, there's something about shooting a target over and over again.
01:48:48.000
Now the cool thing about what you do from my perspective, and you and Cam and all those guys, the thing I think is sexy is the fucking...
01:49:04.000
I've watched a lot of those Rinella videos on Netflix.
01:49:10.000
It's almost like finding a needle in a haystack.
01:49:12.000
You finally see an elk and then you gotta apply all the shit you do in your range.
01:49:16.000
You gotta apply it to it when you haven't slept well.
01:49:34.000
And I think there's something about obsession that's good for the mind.
01:49:39.000
It keeps your mind active in a very unusual way.
01:49:49.000
I'm helping Big J do his special now, and that's all I think about.
01:49:54.000
It's just like making sure everything's run right.
01:50:04.000
Big J. You know, Big J is always the guy fucks around, little buzz on stage, fuck around with the audience.
01:50:12.000
12,000 people, he sits on a stool and destroyed me, Shane, Dave Attell.
01:50:31.000
And he had this weird training where he'd always go on after a tell late night at the cellar.
01:50:35.000
And he'd also like open for like corn and stuff.
01:50:41.000
On their like some music festival kind of tour.
01:50:45.000
He did one of the hardest things too where we did the oddball tour a few years ago.
01:50:56.000
And like, you know, you have people being sad and all this shit.
01:51:00.000
We had to introduce a big band at Rockin' the Range in Columbus, I think.
01:51:13.000
And then somebody yelled out from the crowd something and Jay just rips in, turns 18,000 people against this one guy.
01:51:30.000
Because he missed the first night, we had Dave Williamson host.
01:51:33.000
Next night we're like, why don't you just do a spot and then we'll switch it up.
01:51:36.000
And after watching his spot, we're like, oh man, he just needs to do sets.
01:51:47.000
Yeah, you think he just does crowd work, but he disguises everything.
01:51:51.000
He is one of the best crowd work guys in the country.
01:51:58.000
It's not like he has a pre-planned thing that he's going to say to people.
01:52:01.000
And someone will attack him, like in the audience at a small club, and he'll be like...
01:52:18.000
People sleep on how fucking talented that guy is.
01:52:24.000
And there's like people that, it's a cultural thing, certain tribes or whatever, people would have dyed hair, like dyed, you know?
01:52:34.000
And one of the people running the festival is like, oh yeah, they're from, you know, whatever, this group, and it's like a religious, cultural thing, dyed orange, and he's like, hmm, okay, huh?
01:52:44.000
And he gets up there, and he's like, you look like an orangutan, you know?
01:52:49.000
But his delivery and the way that he says it, the lady was backstage panicking and he was just the guy and everybody, they were all just dying.
01:53:03.000
I watched him go on stage and he does so much crowd work, he picked out what car everyone drove in the front row.
01:53:16.000
He did a special for Showtime of crowd work with a few bits.
01:53:22.000
And you know how sometimes that can be lost in a special?
01:53:41.000
You'd have to at least put him in the running for it.
01:53:54.000
When you get your club open, have him come do a weekend down there, and you will be...
01:54:02.000
And then at the end of the week, and tell me if I'm wrong, you'll be talking like this, too.
01:54:14.000
He came down to the club when we were doing a little tour of it and showing what the construction is and everything.
01:54:20.000
Got a chance to hang out with him a little bit.
01:54:30.000
The funniest thing about that book, it was great, but he had different comics read each chapter for the audiobook, and how little comedians know how to actually read was just exposed.
01:54:48.000
Hey, getting your fucking text is a real experience.
01:54:59.000
I can't see if I don't have my glasses on, so I just send it.
01:55:03.000
I have 20 amazing vision from far away, but I can't see shit up close.
01:55:10.000
I started taking something called macular support.
01:55:29.000
It's got lutein and a bunch of different things in it.
01:55:39.000
But Ari, you got the fucking surgery and then it went bad.
01:55:50.000
Your macular degeneration continues even after you get the surgery.
01:55:54.000
Well, there's a thing now that Andrew Huberman was telling me about where it's like some sort of bacteria, and I'm going to butcher this, they inject it into your eye, and it actually corrects your vision.
01:56:14.000
There's this small percentage thing that happens in Lasix where somebody's vision will just go orange.
01:56:22.000
Well, this guy that I met, one of my daughter's friend's dads, he had the Lasix, and now he can't drive at night.
01:56:36.000
He drives at night, and he's like, can't see anything.
01:56:39.000
He goes, like, all the headlights, have you ever seen what it looks like?
01:56:58.000
Like, when he sees a light, everything around that light is obscured by, like, a haze.
01:57:07.000
I can read books, but at nighttime, I'm fucked.
01:57:14.000
The second I got it, they're like, hey, but just so you know, your nearsighted, that's still going to fade.
01:57:23.000
The next day, I was like, hey, dude, you said it would go away slowly.
01:57:33.000
I forgot that it was the last picture I showed.
01:57:35.000
It's sitting right there where everybody can see it.
01:57:50.000
Do you think when people die, they're like, hey, put my glasses on so I can see everybody.
01:58:01.000
It's one of the benefits of Sober October is I wake up going, hey man, I'm not dying today.
01:58:06.000
Wait, were you serious that your recovery is better with tequila than no drink?
01:58:21.000
But you also, you have to realize we're at day six, so your body's adapting.
01:58:28.000
There was a thing you were doing the other night and we were going to give you a pass.
01:58:30.000
It was such a brutal thing, that thing that you had to do.
01:58:34.000
I wanted you to fail so bad so I could get out of it.
01:58:44.000
Because you give him one drink and he'll be like, that's nothing.
01:58:55.000
And I went, and I said to Leanne, I got three drinks tonight if I want them.
01:59:02.000
And then that night what I did is I went out and then I went to dinner with Leanne and I wasn't chasing any drinks.
01:59:13.000
And then I got in the car and I drove both of us home.
01:59:23.000
And that's the thing I wish I could get a hold of.
01:59:27.000
Where I just go, oh, tonight's not a night I'm chasing drinks.
01:59:33.000
So the pros of drinking all the time is you're the life of the party.
01:59:43.000
There's a rant that you did that is on a video somewhere of you talking about how you love drinking.
01:59:54.000
It's a love letter to that feeling that we all get when you have a couple of cocktails and you see a sunrise.
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It's like, there's a feeling when you just start to catch a buzz that is such a fucking beautiful feeling.
02:00:10.000
And then one night, during the pandemic, I didn't drink for like three months.
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And then the first three months, I just What the fuck are you talking about?
02:00:19.000
And what happens is if I keep asking questions, you'll be like, all right, there was a few days in the city.
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The last drink I had was on the tour bus going into the city.
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I'm like, well, then that's the last time you drink.
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I definitely, I went a long stretch at the beginning of the pandemic without drinking.
02:00:56.000
It was definitely before I went on tour for the outdoor thing.
02:01:02.000
You're not going to piss in the hallway, right?
02:01:11.000
We had a giant whiskey bottle filled with Ari's piss.
02:01:15.000
It was hilarious because he was peeing in the hallway.
02:01:27.000
Yeah, you guys get fucked up on those Protect Your Parks.
02:01:30.000
Can I tell you, I'm a little jealous that all ours are always sober.
02:01:39.000
That looks like a picture you put in front of a 7-Eleven, like this man.
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And I'm bent over because I'm almost ready to pass out.
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Look how filled that fucking whiskey jug is, too.
02:02:11.000
You're having your first drink with them and not us?
02:02:33.000
So the first Sober October we did, me and Ari met up in New Orleans.
02:02:52.000
The first time me and Ari meet up in New Orleans, I feel great.
02:02:58.000
I remember having so much gratitude for you guys because I had never stopped for that long and being like, I'm glad I have friends that made this fun.
02:03:12.000
Joe, you get in serious mode sometimes where it's not fun anymore.
02:03:19.000
You pull me aside and you grab me like, hey, just so you know, you don't have to do this.
02:03:25.000
I laid in bed that night after that first Sober October thing.
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I laid in bed and I go, I think I just ruined my career.
02:03:32.000
Because my doctor friend told me that you could die.
02:03:34.000
He said there's one thing that does actually kill people, and it's withdrawal from alcohol.
02:03:40.000
Yeah, we all were really actually legit worried.
02:03:43.000
There's two drugs that kill people when they get off of them.
02:03:49.000
Xanax actually can kill people if you get off of it.
02:03:52.000
Your body becomes so addicted to it that when you get off of it, your body just fucking freaks out and you die.
02:04:09.000
But it's got to be significant for people to go through it.
02:04:11.000
I was sad that he did it in the first place because I think he didn't understand the withdrawal.
02:04:17.000
No one understands with benzos because the doctor prescribes it.
02:04:21.000
They always give you like one milligram and then you're like, oh, wow.
02:04:24.000
You take that one milligram and it's overwhelming and then slowly but surely that one milligram...
02:04:35.000
I mean, it literally, just imagine yourself being very anxious and it's just being eliminated.
02:04:41.000
But doesn't it rebound until your anxiety increases when you get off of it?
02:04:49.000
The thing about Xanax and stuff is that it's fast-acting, so it hits you pretty quickly.
02:04:54.000
And if it's strong, not only would it reduce your anxiety, but you would get a buzz of sorts.
02:05:06.000
So taking a milligram is actually a strong dose.
02:05:13.000
I still have the same 30 that was prescribed to me from like two years ago.
02:05:17.000
So you can just do it every now and then and not do it?
02:05:25.000
He was taking it a lot, but he said it made him feel great.
02:05:34.000
I'll tell you what, all anxiety goes away when I do hard cardio all the time.
02:05:39.000
We were talking about this last night, is that one of the things that's coming out of this Sober October thing that came out of the last time we had the fitness challenge, and you and I talked about this, there's a thing that happens when you do that hard cardio every day where you don't give a fuck.
02:05:54.000
Yeah, it gets easier to do the hard cardio because you get in shape, but you were talking about the inner chatter.
02:06:00.000
Yeah, because all stress, anxiety, everybody has different degrees of it, but when you're doing hard workouts, like when you fucking gas yourself, you're done, and you do it consistently, nothing really.
02:06:14.000
It's just hard to stay consistent and to recognize that that really is like a medicine.
02:06:19.000
It does leave you feeling like you can't think about other stuff.
02:06:29.000
Well, I have a knee issue that fucks with me when I run and I've been getting stem cells in it.
02:07:00.000
Like for me, the only way I can find myself pushing it to where I'm going like I'm about to throw up is a rowing machine.
02:07:11.000
So if it's just me trying to get in shape, it's like, why not quit?
02:07:15.000
But if it's when I'm competing against you guys, when I'm like, I have to do this from an outside push, then I can keep going.
02:07:22.000
My wife gets very uncomfortable when we start doing these things.
02:07:32.000
During the fucking Sober October fitness challenge, I went off the rails.
02:07:39.000
My wife gets me sober once a year and all I do is talk about you guys.
02:07:46.000
Texting her pictures of Joe shirtless, and she's like, hey, don't let this happen again.
02:07:52.000
Yeah, well, that's why we mitigated that by making this not a contest.
02:08:01.000
And they're like, oh, we haven't seen you here since October 30th, 2019. Yeah, exactly.
02:08:08.000
I think for me, that tank, I love that Torque Fitness tank.
02:08:13.000
That thing really feels, I don't know, it feels amazing.
02:08:34.000
And then you also can put a strap on it and you pull it backwards.
02:08:38.000
Yeah, it has different, and then it has a rope.
02:08:40.000
Put a fucking lawnmower on there and do two things at once.
02:08:51.000
The other thing I think that really fucking takes me to that level of like, holy shit, is mitts or a bag.
02:09:07.000
That is hilarious what you're just doing right now.
02:09:11.000
In my movie, I think I had my fingers, or I was doing this, and they were like, yo!
02:09:19.000
I guarantee you I could teach you how to punch pretty easy.
02:09:23.000
I think I'm tough, like if some guy talks shit, but when I hit mitts, I really don't know what I'm doing.
02:09:29.000
But if some guy was like, and you go, I'll fuck you up, and then you went like this...
02:09:35.000
The key is to learn how to do it where you're not trying to hit something hard.
02:09:39.000
Everybody tries hard, and when you try hard, you like, and you use all these muscles, and you fuck up your thing.
02:09:45.000
When you learn how to punch correctly, the right way for someone to teach you is literally to teach you just you're not even doing it hard.
02:09:54.000
You're just learning how to move your body correctly, and then it becomes muscle memory.
02:09:59.000
And then it becomes ingrained in your pathway, so you know where you're putting your foot.
02:10:03.000
And then once you actually start hitting something hard, then your body knows what the motions are.
02:10:13.000
They know they can hit hard, so they try to hit hard.
02:10:24.000
You know, you want to use technique and you can learn how to do it like slowly and softly.
02:10:29.000
It's just teaching yourself to not try to hit it hard.
02:10:39.000
You just learn how to do something in a drill, where you're not straining against a person.
02:10:43.000
You're learning how to just train your body to go through the motions.
02:10:47.000
The best I got at jiu-jitsu, the biggest leap that I got was between blue belt and purple belt.
02:10:52.000
That's because I was training with Eddie, and we were training almost four or five days a week.
02:10:58.000
We'd go get high, and he would go over techniques with me.
02:11:08.000
And even though he's like, you know, he's a stoner, and he's like this wild dude, he's very disciplined.
02:11:14.000
I went up behind him one time to take him down at the store, just as a gag.
02:11:18.000
And he, as I grabbed him, you know, Eddie went, don't do that.
02:11:24.000
And I was like, he's like, you know, I'm trying to do one thing, and it happens.
02:11:34.000
Like, all parts of your body, because it's, like, wrestling in general.
02:11:36.000
Well, that is another thing that, like, alleviates anxiety with people.
02:11:41.000
This is the best goddamn cigar I've ever had in my entire fucking life.
02:11:48.000
My father's is, like, the number one cigar out there.
02:11:59.000
And then me and Liss got a bunch of other cigars for the people who were like, I'll try a cigar.
02:12:03.000
I'll be like, I'll have the special one for you.
02:12:29.000
People are like, all right, Bert, can I get a picture?
02:12:33.000
He's just in the kitchen, like, moving past, like, waiters.
02:12:40.000
I know you know this because you like sports the way I do, but, like, you do Cleveland, you do the arena in Cleveland, and you're making the same walk LeBron makes, and you're going, like, there's a gravitas that comes with those arenas where you, like, Like, you hear the people, and you're walking down the hallway,
02:12:56.000
and you're seeing jerseys up, and you're like, yeah.
02:13:00.000
And then you go to Sidesplitters, and you're in the kitchen, and they're like, plate coming around the corner, and you're like, sorry, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.
02:13:06.000
You're like, how am I supposed to get in my head?
02:13:08.000
I hope they really pop when I take my shirt off.
02:13:11.000
I hope they really pop when I take my shirt off.
02:13:14.000
You have to take your shirt off for the rest of your life.
02:13:22.000
I would love, for on this special, I would love to, all I want is someone just to, remember when Chappelle, remember when Chappelle got guns?
02:13:30.000
And all everyone just, on the deal, they're like, dude, his fucking arms look good.
02:13:34.000
So I'm going to go, goddammit, man, he's got delts.
02:13:38.000
Just, I'm always going to have the belly, I think, but just someone to go, he doesn't look that bad.
02:13:44.000
So it's always, Tom and I have talked about this.
02:13:46.000
You look like a trans man that's having quintuplets.
02:14:06.000
But we talk about how it's pushed out all the time.
02:14:14.000
He was pointing to it on stage like it's the Zapruder film.
02:14:18.000
I compared it to a growing mushroom the day after it rains.
02:14:29.000
When I did Secret Time, I didn't realize that it already happened until they did the billboard of it.
02:14:35.000
And they did the billboard, and I go, that's not my stomach.
02:14:40.000
You have the craziest, most delusional perspective.
02:14:45.000
The text message you sent us the other day, I could do more push-ups than anyone in this group.
02:14:59.000
That's me, and they put that up on fucking Melrose, and I go, that's not me.
02:15:07.000
That's me at like 220. Right, but you, at the time, thought your belly was smaller than that.
02:15:13.000
And they put that up on Melrose, and I saw it, I drove past it, and I go, oh, they must have put someone else's belly on me or Photoshopped it.
02:15:20.000
Yeah, this is like when you go, like, I have legit the best shoulders.
02:15:31.000
Joe, they're ripping through this shirt right now.
02:15:34.000
Yeah, but you say things and you don't really mean it, right?
02:15:37.000
When you say things and you know they're not true.
02:15:46.000
Like, remember that one time you said he could do the splits?
02:15:49.000
I actually thought I might be able to pull one out.
02:15:57.000
If you look at me, if I take my shirt off and just do like this, you go, yeah.
02:16:04.000
But you've got to know that you can't do the splits.
02:16:10.000
Same reason I said I could run a marathon with no training.
02:16:12.000
Yeah, but a marathon is like you can run five miles.
02:16:20.000
The best part of that story, for me, was when you did a split, and then you looked at me and you said, have you ever done a split?
02:16:26.000
And then in your eyes, you go, like you're almost trying to talk to an island of people you discovered.
02:16:38.000
And you go, and you were willing to hurt yourself?
02:17:01.000
But I like when you go places and people underestimate you.
02:17:05.000
And I love my favorite part of Sober October is the subtle shit talk where you go, I will murder you.
02:17:12.000
I said, I think I can do more push-ups than you.
02:17:21.000
I'm at dinner with my family and they're like, what are you laughing at?
02:17:26.000
I go, was only funny if you know him intimately.
02:17:29.000
Because I know you, you're like, what the fuck?
02:17:32.000
And then I thought, I really thought, because I've been to Ways to Wellness with you.
02:17:38.000
And I've seen you getting the shots in your shoulders.
02:17:42.000
I bet he can't do a push-up because of his shoulders.
02:17:46.000
You unlock in Joe a competitiveness that only comes out around you.
02:17:52.000
When he did it at your studio, the whatever it's called, arm wrestle.
02:17:58.000
But just the way he was like, let's do it, fine.
02:18:00.000
It wasn't that competitive, but it was still like, he was like, bye!
02:18:11.000
Well, you have a delusional perspective that I just don't understand.
02:18:16.000
You're a truth seeker, and this guy attacks that.
02:18:27.000
I literally just made this comparison yesterday.
02:18:29.000
In that I talk wild shit, and then every now and then it matches up.
02:18:36.000
Every now and then you're like, oh shit, frogs are gay.
02:18:38.000
You're the guy that goes to the center core and goes, I bet I could fucking hit this from here.
02:18:46.000
Once in a long while, you'll pull out a marathon.
02:18:50.000
Every now and then people are like, What the fuck?
02:18:52.000
When we were doing the Sober October Fitness Challenge, you were what I thought of 80% of the time.
02:19:12.000
We were doing Fully Loaded, but at the end of the day, these professional baseball players were on the field.
02:19:18.000
And they're like, hey man, I heard you want to try out for the team.
02:19:20.000
And I was like, I'll fucking give it all up right now for one season, one contract.
02:19:26.000
And Attell goes, I got a hundred bucks that says he doesn't connect.
02:19:31.000
And then literally got up there and one hopping off the fence.
02:19:38.000
And then the pitcher goes, looks at the team, he goes, these are with no pace.
02:19:44.000
Meaning he's throwing them at like 40 miles an hour, so I'm doing all the work to get the ball out there.
02:19:49.000
He goes, with a little bit of pace, I think it'll go yard.
02:19:55.000
You can find the video of me hitting fucking bombs.
02:20:02.000
I just think you just don't do anything about it.
02:20:09.000
See, when I first heard you were a good athlete, or you told me that, I was like, get the fuck out of here.
02:20:13.000
Because it's all based on what What you know now.
02:20:17.000
Well, what your origin is of athleticism, you know what I mean?
02:20:21.000
A kid who played a lot of baseball thinks of somebody good at baseball.
02:20:26.000
If you played football, that's all I did, great athlete means runs the fastest, jumps the highest, Can bench fucking 225, 30 times.
02:20:36.000
But then I saw him do all the things that are...
02:20:41.000
It's like everything that was hand-eye, golf, ball, everything.
02:20:45.000
He could like, I'll throw this ball and hit that thing off that bar over there.
02:21:20.000
I don't need it to be I don't need it to be real.
02:21:31.000
And I think I am that way with physical achievements.
02:21:40.000
They'll be like, what happened to your body, man?
02:21:45.000
When I went to college, I remember intramural softball.
02:21:49.000
Everyone was making big claims about how good they were, and I was like, I'm actually really good.
02:21:53.000
And I was like, I'm not going to say a fucking word.
02:21:59.000
I'm just going to go in and just fucking drop bombs.
02:22:01.000
And then that look on someone's face when they expect nothing of you and you over-deliver is, I think, how I've set up my career.
02:22:11.000
I remember ripping my shirt off, and I remember David Letterman was doing an interview with Mike Binder, And Binder texted it to me, and David Letterman goes, I mean, he rips his shirt off.
02:22:23.000
Like, you don't expect anything, and then it's good material.
02:22:27.000
And then I got that, I was crying, because I was like, that's, everything I want you to do is, like, under-believe and then over-achieve.
02:22:35.000
But I think with, but I think, especially with sports, I have a little bit of...
02:22:58.000
Can you imagine this mounting you and just humping you?
02:23:03.000
She's probably so worried you're gonna die on her.
02:23:11.000
I go, hey, you're not supposed to laugh when people come.
02:23:18.000
She goes, I don't think you could have gotten AIDS from that fuck.
02:23:35.000
If I go down on her, it'll be like three pumps.
02:23:44.000
I can grind on the bed while I go down on her and fucking come in the sheets.
02:23:56.000
Yeah, if you don't jack off for a while, then you fuck, it's like almost immediate.
02:23:59.000
It's probably why I don't cheat, because I think if I fuck someone, the look of disappointment in their face.
02:24:10.000
I told Tony Woods this story, he said, never tell anyone this story.
02:24:18.000
You need to read a book or get online and learn something.
02:24:23.000
Read a book and then come back and finish your job.
02:24:24.000
And then she goes, and I was going to say, give me a minute, I'll go again.
02:24:28.000
And then I was like, hey, you can't talk to me like that.
02:24:37.000
And then I was like, I'm gonna have to ask you to leave.
02:24:46.000
And I still had a condom and a beer in the kitchen.
02:24:55.000
Just like the little reservoir just like dangling.
02:24:58.000
My buddy Weecho comes around the corner and I go, she'll be gone in a second.
02:25:01.000
And she came out and she goes, are you being fucking serious?
02:25:05.000
And I was like, I just can't let you talk to me.
02:25:11.000
Like, you're not my girlfriend, but you can't like yell at me.
02:25:19.000
And then she was really angry and she faked a punch.
02:25:22.000
And I spilled beer all over myself and my dick went up and hit me in the stomach.
02:25:29.000
Me and the woman both started laughing in my door hysterically.
02:25:32.000
And then she smiled and went to my neighbor's door and pounded on the door.
02:25:53.000
That reminds me of when we went to that national championship game and we're trying to skirt the line.
02:26:00.000
And we're just, like, trying to get through, trying to get through.
02:26:22.000
Did you just play a black guy to walk you to the front?
02:26:27.000
Yeah, I mean, we didn't take his race into account.
02:26:30.000
He just has the yellow jacket that says security.
02:26:40.000
I realized this when I was working the door at the store.
02:26:42.000
If you tip a guy $20, $100, you owned me for the night.
02:26:51.000
You're running late by the way at an airport, and you find somebody that works at the airport, and you have cash, give that person $20, $40, whatever.
02:26:58.000
That person will get you through security, for sure.
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They know the people at TSA. And then they'll be like, okay.
02:27:14.000
There's nothing like a cool person at TSA. Yeah.
02:27:16.000
Like every now and then, you know that story I tell about the lady who got randomly selected at TSA? There's nothing about a funny person that you meet at TSA. You're like, all right, we're okay.
02:27:30.000
You're a person who's in this weird position where people every day are bullshitting you and you're trying to do your job, but every now and then you run into a cool person.
02:27:39.000
I asked the guy once, because sometimes they say your name out loud, and it's like, what?
02:27:44.000
Why do I have to say my name out loud on my ID? And so I asked the guy, I was like, why here and not anywhere else?
02:27:49.000
And he goes, oh, because the guy who runs this TSA at Newark is a power-hungry?
02:27:58.000
I used to do concierge key for American when I flew American.
02:28:09.000
I got in trouble for talking about it on this podcast.
02:28:11.000
I got kicked out of concierge key for talking about it on this podcast.
02:28:38.000
We don't appreciate you talking about this on your little podcast.
02:28:45.000
I go, you're not allowed to call me and chastise me in my house.
02:28:53.000
So how could they have a thing that you're not allowed to talk about?
02:29:03.000
Now I just do private suite, which is fucking the best.
02:29:06.000
That's a separate entrance on the other side of the airport.
02:29:12.000
It's where Beyonce, Kardashians, everyone goes there.
02:29:25.000
They had a bottle of Tito's wrapped in caution tape in my suite yesterday.
02:29:31.000
And they're like, we'll hold this until November.
02:29:38.000
I need a treat to be here, and I don't want to see any treats.
02:29:54.000
If you don't fly, then look, he just walked in with a thing of Kool-Aid for me.
02:30:03.000
Are you drinking diet Kool-Aid or regular Kool-Aid?
02:30:27.000
They said, you know, I was coming in, I was panicked.
02:30:30.000
I think my travel agent was like, hey, he's only got like eight hours in L.A., Private suite.
02:30:51.000
It's the greatest treat you can give yourself flying that isn't flying private.
02:31:03.000
When you guys are talking about self-help books, I have a self-help book that I have chaptered out for the way I get by.
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Because there's more people that are like me than going to be like Cam Haynes.
02:31:15.000
And one of the things, number one thing, and I bet you've asked a lot of people that are successful, the number one thing I need is treats.
02:31:22.000
I need something to look forward to at the end of the day.
02:31:32.000
Because I get a bottle of water and I go, I know I should drink this water, but I need a treat.
02:31:39.000
I love liquid IV. Liquid IV tastes great and it's actually good for you.
02:31:41.000
I love liquid IV. They're a little bigger packets.
02:31:49.000
So the first time I use it, they go, we want you to experience the...
02:31:53.000
Your problem with Liquid IV is the packet size?
02:31:59.000
I have one in the morning, but I'm not putting them in my pocket.
02:32:13.000
First time, this is how PrivateSuite hooked me.
02:32:20.000
They'll meet you at the plane, take you off the plane in a car, and get you home.
02:32:25.000
You don't have to go through any of this stuff.
02:32:27.000
And so I go, and they go, we know you're on a time crunch.
02:32:35.000
I was home in, from the second we touched down, I was home in 20 fucking minutes.
02:32:42.000
And the guy gets in the helicopter and he goes, you want to go to the interstate?
02:32:51.000
And we flew about 20 feet off the fucking ocean just...
02:33:02.000
And by the way, Private Suite, if you're not cool with me talking about this, I apologize.
02:33:21.000
There's a great music festival there near Seattle.
02:33:35.000
I love, there's nothing I love more than hearing Steely Dan's coming to the Hollywood Bowl.
02:34:07.000
Red Rocks, I might be the most jealous of anyone I've ever seen play a venue was you playing Red Rocks.
02:34:16.000
John Denver said if I had one set left in my life, it would be Red Rocks.
02:34:26.000
It's such a great night in that you get there early.
02:34:47.000
But Red Rocks, you go in, you get in there early, you do your sound check, you get an IV, you get dinner at the venue.
02:34:55.000
Then everyone starts piling in, the show starts.
02:34:57.000
The best part of Red Rocks is they give you an option.
02:34:59.000
You can go to Sebastian Maniscalco, get in the Sprinter, get out immediately.
02:35:04.000
Are you telling me I get to make a Tito's and soda and have a joint and sit on stage at Red Rocks?
02:35:17.000
And the thing that I'm really attached to right now is...
02:35:26.000
Immersing yourself in the fan experience as an artist and saying, what do I want out of life?
02:35:30.000
I think it's easy for you to go, who gets me excited?
02:35:34.000
Like if you're a fan of like Wilco, I'm a fan of Wilco.
02:35:40.000
I saw him at Red Rocks and I was high and I was drunk.
02:35:44.000
One of the songs, Ballin' Crying, cameraman just puts the camera on me, and I'm sobbing, crying, holding my wife, singing along.
02:35:50.000
But that moment for me is beautiful because I love Wilco.
02:35:54.000
And I got to see him at the most beautiful venue ever.
02:36:03.000
And this is what's great about touring when we did Fully Loaded with Shane Gillis.
02:36:09.000
We're at a baseball field and you're just going to walk on stage?
02:36:11.000
He goes, you come running in from right field, the bullpen.
02:36:35.000
They go, we'll put you in a sprint car and we'll play...
02:36:41.000
And you're going 90 miles an hour standing up in a fucking car.
02:36:49.000
So when you say a tour of us, my cock gets hard.
02:37:03.000
Well, we have to plan it far out because I need to write a whole new act.
02:37:05.000
I'm in that spot where we're just filmed and I've got to fucking figure out how to put together an hour.
02:37:12.000
Because he's already doing the biggest venues you can do.
02:37:15.000
Right, but he'll be done around the time that the club's open and I'm ready to...
02:37:19.000
He's touring until his children are in high school.
02:37:21.000
I do have my international stuff next year, but it ends in May.
02:37:39.000
Well, really, the way to do it is right before Sober October.
02:37:44.000
Alright, yeah, right we don't want to do it in October right fuck party in September then are we committed to sober October for the rest of our lives Can I make a couple suggestions for next year's weed put weed back on the menu?
02:37:55.000
This tonight is gonna be a triggering event for me Because I haven't been in a situation where booze should be here or I should be on acid for Roger Waters Yeah, and that will be up I'll be itchy.
02:38:07.000
I hung out with Roger Waters yesterday and I played pool with him.
02:38:18.000
I had an interview with him for the 25th or 30th anniversary of Dark Side of the Moon.
02:38:25.000
And they were like, did you know when you were writing this what kind of effect, how big it would be?
02:38:36.000
I think he did an interview recently about Russia.
02:38:43.000
But he was kind of pro-Russian in his stance, right?
02:38:48.000
He was saying that there's reasons why they're reacting this way.
02:38:56.000
It's not as simple and cut and dry as everybody said.
02:38:58.000
We orchestrated a coup there in 2014. I mean, it's not that simple.
02:39:02.000
It's like they've openly tried to persuade Ukraine to join NATO, and there's a lot going on with that.
02:39:12.000
Putin did something absolutely horrific, but it's not like he wasn't provoked.
02:39:17.000
And it's not like there aren't people that have a movie in a can about Russia that are waiting to release until this fucking war's over.
02:39:28.000
That is so wild that you can't release it because it's kind of pro-Russia.
02:39:35.000
And the war started and they were just like, oh, let's just...
02:39:50.000
I was like, wait, I thought we were, guys, guys, they're our allies, right?
02:40:03.000
The best, best Pink Floyd song, in your opinion.
02:40:22.000
And the way they use non-instrumental instruments to start off, that was pretty good.
02:40:53.000
And when you talk to Roger, you kind of know where it's coming from, man.
02:41:37.000
Right now Burt is picturing walking shirtless onto stage.
02:41:47.000
I think it's pointing out how crazy it is, the obsession that people have with money.
02:41:55.000
The best is the one song they have about trying to split up the band.
02:42:13.000
And then ten years will pass without you noticing.
02:42:18.000
I would listen to this every day in Serbia going to the...
02:42:32.000
I feel like we should have a one-day weed pass.
02:43:18.000
He had a bunch of kids come out on stage with torture masks on.
02:43:39.000
He's just talking about agents trying to fuck up his shit.
02:44:14.000
Hollywood has about as much influence on us as that banana rat does.
02:44:25.000
You can choose to dip into it if you want, but you don't have to.
02:44:28.000
It's so funny, especially when comics come under fire and people turn on your friends, and you're like, no.
02:44:37.000
Well, the people that don't have friends want you to turn on your friends.
02:44:40.000
The people that are in this like weird fucking group of people that are secretly fucking jealous and bitter of each other and they're all talking shit about each other.
02:44:48.000
Those are the ones that want you to turn on each other because they want you to be like them.
02:44:54.000
I remember when I started this business, no one had friends.
02:44:56.000
You were kind of friends with people until they got something.
02:45:03.000
They're friends with you until you do really well, and then they just fucking hate.
02:45:09.000
You guys started in a different system than I did.
02:45:10.000
Well, you started in the system that we created.
02:45:13.000
Store of door guys of low-level people that it was like, finally, it was almost like when Pesci got, not Pesci, when Pesci got happy that, what's his name, got made.
02:45:23.000
As soon as somebody got passed, Aaron Cater was the first one to get passed, and we're like, yes!
02:45:30.000
We were like that because we realized there was a benefit in all being together.
02:45:35.000
And that we realized that there's so much more fun and camaraderie than there's this weird, bitter loneliness.
02:45:42.000
He's like, you've been on here a lot, huh, on this podcast?
02:45:45.000
I was like, there's a few guys that when you started were like dicks, and there was a few guys like, You and Ralphie and they were like, you're funny, man.
02:45:55.000
I would say for no reason, but it's a human reason to do it, you know?
02:46:01.000
The more people that are good, that are doing well, it benefits everybody.
02:46:05.000
This weird thing that it's all for you, that famine mentality is so poisonous for everything.
02:46:20.000
My best compliments, when people are like, I like this, I like that, my best is like, dude, you showed me so many comics from This Is Not Happening.
02:46:29.000
Well, you're great at that, too, highlighting people on your social media, too, that are really good.
02:46:41.000
I told you this last night, but I try to implement that a little bit where you try to help put people over and stuff.
02:46:49.000
But then you start looking at it, and this sounds crazy, but then you get to a place where these guys that, like, you kind of tried to help.
02:46:56.000
I apologize, Tim, if I'm overstepping my boundaries.
02:46:59.000
But we were talking in my front yard, and he was saying, you know, you were one of the first guys to put me on a podcast, and I'll never forget it.
02:47:04.000
And I was out in L.A. And I was like, yeah, yeah.
02:47:07.000
And then you think, these guys you're trying to put over one day...
02:47:14.000
I can't announce it, but I have a big thing I'm doing with Tim.
02:47:17.000
And I was, like, really grateful that he did it.
02:47:20.000
And then you think to yourself, like, it's crazy how quick that shifts, that paradigm of like, Chris DiStefano, great guy to get on the podcast like two years ago, and now you're like, hey man, you're in LA, can you do my podcast?
02:47:36.000
And you know, it's like these, Mark Norman, Shane, like these guys all kind of pop, Yanni, and like all these guys kind of pop.
02:47:43.000
I remember Schultz did Something's Burnham when I was in New York.
02:47:45.000
And I was like, we were talking, it was like, oh, it's good to have you on.
02:47:50.000
He crushed it with that thing, too, with that special.
02:47:53.000
Just the YouTube, there were 5 million views in a week.
02:48:01.000
Yesterday I saw it and I went, oh, shit, 5.5 a week.
02:48:05.000
Late to the game on clips, putting clips up, but I had a good riff on stage and we had a tape of it.
02:48:18.000
I'll have my guy fix it up and send it back to you.
02:48:21.000
A lot of people are like, I don't know man, you figure it out.
02:48:27.000
He came from New York to L.A. I remember when Schultz came to L.A. He's like, dude, the scene here is so different.
02:48:37.000
He came to the store, and I gave him a big hug.
02:48:43.000
I did a spot on his show, and we were all hanging out.
02:48:45.000
And he's like, dude, everyone here is so fucking supportive and friendly.
02:48:51.000
He's like, you guys are fucking doing it right, man.
02:49:06.000
There's a thousand of us on Earth, on the planet.
02:49:11.000
And if you can grab someone who's coming up and give them some words of encouragement and help them and take them on the road with you a little bit and give them some tips and boost them up a little and get them on your podcast, you're fucking doing a service, man.
02:49:25.000
Especially, I think, probably we've all sort of forgotten, like...
02:49:29.000
The status you've gotten to a new young comic who watched you before they even did comedy.
02:49:35.000
Carlin would sit in the back of the room and when people got up, they're like, hey man, that was really funny.
02:49:38.000
He knew he was George Carlin giving you that compliment.
02:49:41.000
And it's tough to remember who now, what your name means, but a little bit of just like, hey, that was a really funny joke.
02:49:49.000
Do you remember the first comic that complimented any of my jokes?
02:49:55.000
The first compliment I got from a real comic was Jim Norton.
02:50:03.000
The in-between days where you're like, I don't know if I can do this.
02:50:08.000
Marc Maron gave me a compliment when I was an open-miker.
02:50:27.000
Louie and I were talking about that the other day.
02:50:34.000
I say that to every comic that I see that gets me to laugh.
02:50:42.000
Just keep working, keep grinding, just keep fucking writing new shit and keep doing it.
02:50:54.000
Some people never figure out the funny thing, man.
02:51:00.000
Almost they touch it, and it runs away from them.
02:51:03.000
And you'll see them ten years later, and they still can't get it.
02:51:09.000
At times, you ever had someone compliment a joke of yours that Isn't the funniest joke you have?
02:51:15.000
And then you're like, well, now I've got to figure out that fucking joke.
02:51:19.000
Louis did that to me when we were in Minneapolis.
02:51:24.000
I said, why don't you come over and just do a quick spot?
02:51:28.000
Thinking, I thought he was talking about the cancel shit.
02:51:32.000
I gotta follow Louis C.K. I didn't realize that.
02:51:39.000
I literally was like, I was like, Louis, I don't care about cancel culture.
02:51:43.000
And then I'm watching, I'm like, oh, I can't follow this.
02:51:48.000
And so he comes up and he goes, hey man, that deaf kid joke, fucking yes.
02:51:57.000
So now I've been fucking toiling with this one goddamn joke that he saw something in that I'm like, I guess there's some umami inside this joke that I can't find.
02:52:06.000
I don't want to give up the joke because I would give up the premise.
02:52:16.000
I go, I don't know, dude, but I laugh so hard just at the premise.
02:52:30.000
There's this crop of upcoming guys, man, that are so strong.
02:52:35.000
And I think it's because of the guys that have already made it, that are really enthusiastic.
02:52:49.000
And talks to you in analogies that I never fucking thought of.
02:52:53.000
Where you're like, oh shit, I didn't see it that way.
02:53:03.000
I just remember right now, Tom, when you brought me to Crackers.
02:53:08.000
And it's probably, at the time for you, a $1,200 to $1,500 gig.
02:53:13.000
I couldn't get a headline gig anywhere except La Jolla.
02:53:15.000
And you're like, come break-even, but it'll get in the club.
02:53:23.000
Dude, I took you on the road when you were a doorman.
02:53:32.000
That was actually, getting back from those first six months, all my friends were like, dude, you made a jump.
02:53:42.000
Like, a lot of people would be like, hey, man, you're funny.
02:53:52.000
I was like, hey, your client said that they wanted to take me on tour.
02:53:56.000
And then I followed up and they were like, yeah, they don't want to do that.
02:54:01.000
Well, we worked with like 20 different comics on that Charlie Murphy tour.
02:54:07.000
And you went up in Phoenix and I think you did like three minutes.
02:54:12.000
And then I remember pulling you aside and going, dude, you're fucking good.
02:54:17.000
Yeah, but I still was, he was like, you know, give me your number.
02:54:23.000
I saw Mooney, he got off stage with some guy from HBO. I was like, Paul, I haven't seen you in a while.
02:54:43.000
Because he had just been like, I've had smoke blood on my ass for decades.
02:54:51.000
He was one of the ones that really bummed me out when he died because I had an opportunity to see him one night at the store and I decided to go do something else.
02:54:57.000
I remember someone said, Mooney's going to do a set at the store.
02:55:01.000
And I know he had been in New York for a while.
02:55:08.000
Yeah, but I still wish I said hi and gave him a hug.
02:55:17.000
He still had some killer bits, but it made you sad.
02:55:22.000
But there's those things that, like, he was one of those guys.
02:55:26.000
Him telling me I was funny was just, like, giant to me.
02:55:30.000
It's like there's guys that just don't impress easily.
02:55:33.000
When those guys come up to you and say something to you, it's fucking big.
02:55:37.000
I remember, this is going to sound so stupid, Patrice did it for me on Twitter one time.
02:55:45.000
I fucking birthed Conker or whatever, and I was in a hotel room in San Antonio, and he just put out a tweet saying, hey, congrats to my buddy, or whatever.
02:55:57.000
But it's great to see Burt Kreischer succeeding.
02:56:02.000
And I remember my cameraman, Scott Sands, was like, dude, because he knew how much Patrice meant to me.
02:56:07.000
He's like, Patrice, did you see what he just tweeted?
02:56:09.000
And I read it, and I shut my door, and I fucking cried.
02:56:12.000
I was like, dude, he was the fucking, I mean, he was like...
02:56:23.000
He's a guy that I think if he was alive today, he'd have the biggest podcast.
02:56:37.000
He was great on ONA. He was great on ONA, but he did have a podcast, and it was tough to listen to.
02:56:48.000
And if you allow Patrice to, if you allow Patrice one mic with no pushback, sometimes it could go into some places where you're like, I don't feel like that totally.
02:57:05.000
Yeah, but you have to find your voice in a podcast.
02:57:11.000
Yeah, but Patrice would have been great on this podcast.
02:57:16.000
Oh, he would have been amazing on this podcast.
02:57:21.000
Having an idea and putting it your way and then letting you kind of go and then just slamming it and going this, this, this.
02:57:31.000
He was so brilliant, but trust me, I listened to a lot of his podcasts and it was...
02:57:37.000
I remember I got a compliment from Attell in 05 and I was like, oh my god.
02:57:55.000
And then after one of the shows, he was like, you don't have a new 20 minutes?
02:58:00.000
And he's like, what, do you want to be like an actor or something?
02:58:04.000
Like it went from the highest high to like, oh shit.
02:58:17.000
It's like, dude, you're one of the greatest of all time.
02:58:20.000
He is the best, I mean, I'm not saying this lightly, the best comic in the world.
02:58:28.000
He's certainly up there with the greats of all time.
02:58:30.000
We did Rochester, and it was, you know, in the...
02:58:35.000
No comic thought to use the city landscape as tags for jokes.
02:58:40.000
And Attell went up and he said, you know the kind of guy that goes to Monroe Community College?
02:58:44.000
And we turn around and there's a huge sign that the audience sees right above.
02:58:48.000
Oh, if you don't like that joke, just pray to the glowing cross up on the mountain.
02:58:53.000
I mean, he just worked so seamlessly, worked the city landscape into his bit.
02:58:58.000
Dude, he did sit stuff that weekend, I still haven't seen people do, which is like, we were doing like six show weekends at Brea, and Thursday, he would do, you know, his set, and there'd be like this joke, whatever, 20 minutes in, that kills, and then Friday early show,
02:59:15.000
there'd be a different punchline that would do worse, So Friday Late Show, I would listen, and it would be that joke again.
02:59:23.000
He didn't do the Thursday night one that killed it.
02:59:29.000
And he was doing this throughout his set all the time.
02:59:33.000
He was never satisfied, even if it was doing well.
02:59:46.000
He also has a joke structure that's different than everybody, where we'll do tag, tag, tag, right?
02:59:52.000
And then the next level is tag, tag, up, up, like change the game on the third tag.
02:59:58.000
He does tag, change the game slightly, and then go ridiculous on the third.
03:00:02.000
In a way that you gotta get the audience along with you for that, and he does it.
03:00:07.000
He's a master, and he's one of those guys that quit drinking and actually got better.
03:00:19.000
I don't drink on stage, but the laziness of the drinking in between, lack of motivation, lack of looking at my sets, lack of focus, it shows up and it rears its head.
03:00:30.000
I think it's fun to get drunk on stage every now and then and fuck your act up and try to figure it out in the moment or get high and do that.
03:00:36.000
But for the most part, I have to do stand-up sober.
03:00:42.000
I was going back from Jackson getting ready for my special, and I was like, I'll get high on the road home with Adrian.
03:00:47.000
And then I was like, no, I know what else is going to happen if I get high.
03:00:49.000
I'll go home and watch TV. And if I don't get high, I'll go work on some of those taglines.
03:00:56.000
When I get home from a gig, I spark up a joint and sit in front of the computer.
03:01:02.000
Like, right after I get off stage, because I'm fresh.
03:01:06.000
I just got off stage, and I have these ideas in my head, and everyone's asleep in my house.
03:01:10.000
So I just fucking open up the patio door, spark one up, and I get nervous and crazy and fucking paranoid, and then I run up in front of the computer and start writing.
03:01:20.000
You have a different motivation than other people.
03:01:22.000
You probably go on stage as a millionaire more than any millionaire in the world.
03:01:29.000
There's not a lot of millionaires doing what you do.
03:01:51.000
I was texting with you when I was talking to Ari.
03:01:59.000
She'll be like, hey, I won't call him for my avails at the store if I'm home.
03:02:05.000
We have availability on Tuesday, and then as soon as I get that I go, I have to do it.
03:02:12.000
It's like there's no substitute for stage time.
03:02:16.000
Like when you get in shape, one of the things that I realize when I do like a long tour, I really realized that for the first time when I did the Charlie Murphy tour, because we did 22 dates in a month.
03:02:27.000
So we were constantly on the road, and god damn, and I was talking to Red Band about this.
03:02:31.000
He's like, dude, there's something that happened to you, like around the 10th show.
03:02:35.000
You just got into this zone where you just, and you're in that right now because you're killing it.
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We did like 24 shows last month, something like that.
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I can do shit with this set right now where I can rearrange the whole order and then play the game in my head of figuring out what I haven't done yet.
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Taking all the fight while you're killing with a bit going, what should I do next?
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He said, develop a closing bit and then put it in the first part of your act.
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And he goes, and so Louis developed a whole hour in three months.
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And he said he just developed 20 minutes, and then when he got that 20 minutes, he threw it away.
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Because the hardest thing to do is go to the Vulcan or the store.
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And he will deal with not doing well to figure out stuff, to do work.
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Is there a moment when you start a bit that you know is not that good yet?
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It's like, I was killing last night and I threw this bit up there.
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It's like, this is going to be something someday.
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It's got a beginning and it doesn't have an end.
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Yeah, I did an hour 20. But I have 11 of it that's new.
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And you're like, do I think I should eat it right now?
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You know what I gotta do is a smaller place where it's not like a bunch of murderers.
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I say you can't go in between Fitzsimmons and Rogan and just bring out a notebook.
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It's just like not the best environment for it.
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Dude, nobody turns over an hour like Chappelle.
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Saw him do some spots in Boston Comedy Club when I was a kid, but I've never seen him do live since I've been a comedian.
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We did an arena two weeks ago in Columbus, and I was in Ohio, that's where he lives, a couple hours from his house.
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He drove, and he got there four minutes before he went on stage.
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Yeah, and I wasn't sure if he was going to go up, so I told Tony, I go, you might be bringing me up, you might be bringing Dave up.
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And so Dave shows up, he rolls in, he's like, ah, sunglasses on, and he goes on stage.
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This is the audience not knowing that he's going to be there.
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And then I walked with him to the stage and shined a light to Tony.
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Me and Tony sat in the tunnel before you go on stage just watching this.
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And he's the GOAT. And he gets on stage and they went fucking crazy.
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He's brought a little bit back of that 1970s Elvis, Richard Pryor movie star.
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He has a comedian's ball every year, besides pandemic.
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And he has someone at the door who knows all the comedians in New York.
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So it was all these like weird like burlesque performers and stuff.
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He threw this after party in New York that I went to after we did the...
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They're like, oh, he's having a party at this thing, and the parties are so much better than...
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There's celebrities, but there's just regular people.
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When he says something like, we don't take pictures, we make memories.
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He also, what you're saying, looking at it from the audience's point of view, he puts on a show.
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I went to see Free Ticket, Live Nation friend Chris Burns was like, we want to go see his movie at Madison Square Garden.
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Jeff Ross, Ronnie Chang, Jabberwockies, the movie, who's the guy who sings, Woo Ha, what's his name?
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Look, if you're performing, that's where Chappelle's killing it.
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I don't think anyone goes to see a Dave Chappelle show and doesn't talk about it for a month.
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I mean, it's like, you know, especially the shows you two were doing when you guys did the Tacoma Dome for 33,000 people.
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I don't think he's looking at it as just what he does, but that's where his head is.
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Yeah, we broke the attendance record there, too.
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I'll be in Philadelphia, Portland, Tampa, Salt Lake City, and Dallas coming up.
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He's worried that you guys are going to fall off.
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All I need, all I need, all we need is 100% transparency.
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But if you guys smoke marijuana, I will not hold it against you.
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If you invited me and I went tonight, I would definitely smoke weed.
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I would go tonight too if I weren't flying out.
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We only put marijuana in just to fuck with Joe that first year.
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Mushrooms, acid, I don't count as sobriety at all.
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and I was tripping balls until like 2.30 in the morning.
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I got a suite at a place, like a private place.
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Because I just thought I heard great things about it.
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How do you bring this up at the end of a goddamn podcast?
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Well, because you just said that you were going to be gay and I didn't want you to be.
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It was peaceful, no panic, no anxiety, no paranoia.
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Did you see anything that you want to talk about?
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No, I mean, I did go for a walk at like 1.30 in the morning on these private grounds, and I thought I saw a fox on this path, and I was like...
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Well, no, it was a cat, a wild cat, but I didn't know, I couldn't make out what it was, and it froze me for a second, but it was real.
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Mine's a bear, and if you want to get merch, go to YMHstudios.com.
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The shaman I had was throwing this waxy stuff into the fire and you'll see shapes and stuff and every once in a while I'll throw more in there and I saw a fucking weird poodle.
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I don't know, but I don't know what spirit animal is.
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It was me and some other animals, and we were closing in on a deer, and we could smell rain.
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And then I woke up, because I realized that I was doing it.
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And I could smell things that I just could not...
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We were looking at this animal and we're communicating telepathically, me and these other animals.
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I could smell this animal's anxiety as it's moving slowly through the bushes, like trying to avoid predators.
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And we will be talking about this next week on Two Bears One Cave.
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And the guy told me, he was like, don't fuck with it.
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He's been antsy about leaving for the last 20 minutes because I've been watching you do your little knee thing where you're like...