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00:01:21.000An investigation by The Intercept has found years of internal DHS memos, emails, and documents obtained via leaks and an ongoing lawsuit as well as public documents illustrate the expansive effort by the agency to influence the tech platforms.
00:01:39.000The work, much of which remains unknown to the American public, came into clear view earlier this year when DHS announced a new disinformation governance board.
00:01:50.000A panel designed to police misinformation, false information spread unintentionally, disinformation, false information spread internally, intentionally, excuse me, and malinformation, factual information shared typically out of context with harmful intent.
00:02:29.000While the board was widely ridiculed, immediately scaled back, and then shut down within a few months, other initiatives are underway as DHS pivots to monitoring social media now that its original mandate, the war on terror, has been wound down.
00:04:00.000A lot of people seem to be really upset with Elon for buying Twitter because Elon is saying that he's not going to censor Twitter anymore.
00:04:13.000He's going to like let, you know, all the banned people are going to get back on apparently.
00:04:16.000You know, it's like they're trying to figure it out how to do it.
00:04:19.000And so, this has upset a lot of people who were happy with the idea that it was being hyper-moderated in a way, I think, that fits in with their politics.
00:05:07.000That Elon deleted, which I think was the thing.
00:05:08.000Oh, that was a tweet where it's like the Santa Monica Observer or something like that was tweeting something about the Paul Pelosi attack.
00:05:18.000And that Santa Monica observer has been known to tweet things that aren't correct, or at least has, or not tweet, publish things that aren't correct, at least has in one instance that they were citing, something about Hillary Clinton.
00:06:23.000The best analysis I saw of it was a reporter saying that what the real story here is not like There's people who are psychotic all over San Francisco from doing so much speed, meth, drugs.
00:06:40.000The real story is that all over, like, the great cities of America, people are, like, high as a fucking kite and have been for so long that they're, like, spinning out of control.
00:07:17.000But somewhere along the way, you get on one of these slides that lead you down into Q. And then the next thing you know, you're completely deep in that.
00:07:38.000It's been floating around for a little bit.
00:07:39.000It's just one of the things that happens.
00:07:44.000Robert Anton Wilson, the great Robert Anton Wilson, his recommendation is maintain agnosticism when it comes to the exploration philosophically of anything, really.
00:07:56.000So when you're contemplating this or that, let yourself believe it.
00:08:43.000I think part of the problem with a lot of these theories is that some people, I'm just going to try to say this as kindly as possible, they don't have good brains.
00:08:57.000And I say this as a person who has a decent brain.
00:10:37.000Oh, this is a conflux of all these conspiracy theories that all come together.
00:10:42.000And this person has unfortunately adopted these wholesale and hasn't looked into them at all and now thinks there's lizard people that are shape changers, that are behind closed doors, that are running the world and that are trying to collapse all the societies.
00:10:58.000You know, there's a real benefit to letting the fucking culture figure out what's right and what's wrong.
00:11:08.000But along the way, people are gonna get tricked.
00:14:58.000You want to throw a monkey wrench into shit that doesn't work so that it like stops working and you rebuild instead of patching up old wobbly things that are like smokes coming out, gears are flying off, and you're supposed to pretend like it's working.
00:15:16.000It's like, you know, if the machine that is failing Starts telling tech companies or whoever Like what is real and what isn't then a broken machine is then like articulating truth Which then so if someone starts telling the truth the emperor wears no clothes and then like Twitter throws up underneath like this is potential misinformation That's why this Department of Homeland Security
00:15:46.000thing is so creepy and Because that would be the same people.
00:15:50.000The same people that are telling you things that are factually inaccurate or that are getting fact-checked on Twitter would be the very people that would get to dictate what is mal-information.
00:16:18.000If maybe you said something and you thought it was true, let's correct that.
00:16:22.000But if you just keep doing that over and over and over again and you never admit that, and then you're the one who gets to dictate what's mal-information, it's like the death throes of a dying system.
00:16:37.000And it's reaching out and it's acting and behaving the way it used to be able to behave when it had total access to what people get informed about or not.
00:17:43.000And then people come in who are like, this is a really good idea.
00:17:46.000He's like, you're a genius if you think this is a good idea, because it is.
00:17:49.000Then you have this terrible geometry of where a contagion happens, where this one asshole starts getting surrounded by concentric circles of assholes, and then those people have so much power.
00:18:02.000And that's, I think, what's going on with it.
00:18:07.000There's just too many people running things.
00:18:10.000And of those people, there's got to be some that are great.
00:20:30.000Probably some cult will never know about.
00:20:32.000Just some weird cult on an island somewhere with some nefarious purpose that's like trying to put some certain information on the internet.
00:20:46.000The horrible idea is, okay, we can control the ocean of madness.
00:20:50.000That's what we're going to do because some of these people are other states trying to cause discord in our society that could lead to a civil war, the collapse of the United States.
00:21:43.000You know how, like, if you're a lawyer and you have, like, a sneaky suspicion that your client is probably guilty, but it's your job to get them off.
00:23:00.000To be in a position like that where you have a notebook in front of you and you have to answer these complex questions of what the fuck is going on in Yemen?
00:23:50.000The vice president grabbed a baby and...
00:23:53.000Out of someone's arms and threw the baby on the ground.
00:23:56.000Now, the reason this happened is because we accidentally dosed her with some new MKUltra shit and she thought that she was like a Greek goddess and the baby was like a Hydra head.
00:26:59.000What we were able to witness today and what the President was able to lift up at this conference, at this event, was how her focus on wanting to deal with,
00:27:18.000Imagine if this is someone working for you.
00:27:21.000Imagine if you're in an office somewhere, Duncan, you're the CEO of a corporation, and something like this happens, and this person explains what happened to you, you'd go, I can't have you work for me anymore, because you're a liar.
00:29:24.000I want to thank all of you here for including bipartisan elected officials like Representative Governor, Senator Braun, Senator Booker, Representative...
00:31:18.000So they give speeches to these people that help them get into position of being a president.
00:31:25.000So, like, say if there's a large corporation, a large corporation, they donate a lot of money towards campaigns, and they also, oink, oink, we'd love to hear you talk someday.
00:31:34.000Wait, you're not saying the corporations that give hundreds of millions of dollars for the president to come give the speech are actually secretly bribing them?
00:33:57.000I mean, it's like, what's funny about this sort of thing is, it's inarguably true.
00:34:03.000Like, it's just, you can't describe it in any other way.
00:34:07.000It's like, we can't just hand bags of money to people when we want them to, like, do things for us and the government.
00:34:16.000But we can, like, hide it and do a speech.
00:34:20.000You can't—the funny thing is it has to be a speech because, like, that is a thing where it's like, well, how do you quantify the worth of a presidential speech?
00:34:27.000You can't have them come and say, like, paint the wall or, like, clean a bathroom and you give them $400,000.
00:34:41.000We're not being cynical or conspiratorial.
00:34:44.000It's fucking weird to pay anybody that much for a speech, much less somebody who's still in power and is going to be responsible for potentially passing legislation or helping legislation pass that's going to massively impact whatever your particular industry is.
00:35:03.000Well, this is the kind of stuff, speaking of hypnosis, that's like just on the periphery, right?
00:35:08.000Like if you want to hang out in default reality, you're not really supposed to spend too much time thinking about that.
00:35:15.000You're not supposed to spend too much time thinking about the fact that private corporations and public government sectors of government are weirdly the same thing.
00:35:28.000They're connected by an invisible It's not even invisible.
00:36:26.000And if he did try to run, he couldn't get the money to get to the point where the other ones have gotten to because they're being supported by the corporations.
00:36:32.000So really what we've done is like we've managed to filter out all the other people who could be awesome because they can't get the money.
00:36:48.000Like, imagine the Olympics, you know, or any, like, any other competition.
00:36:54.000Imagine if, like, you're watching the two finalists in some Olympic, I don't know, gymnastic challenge, I don't know, like, tumbling or ice skating.
00:37:06.000And like they both are really bad at fucking ice skating.
00:38:56.000It's really depressing and it's sad that we're all at each other's throats.
00:38:59.000Fighting over these like you know what I mean a stupid binary like we're presented with a dumb binary.
00:39:05.000It's I Don't know I keep saying fucking no, it's a really good point.
00:39:09.000It's a really good point because That's what separates most people.
00:39:14.000It's not really their values It's that you think the other person is on the other party and the other party is inherently bad Everybody's doing it It's mostly incorrect.
00:39:31.000Most people, we can't concentrate on the ones that aren't the most.
00:39:36.000And we can't align ourselves with the ones who aren't the most.
00:39:40.000The people that are the most asshole-ish on the left, that freak you out, Are just like the people that are the most asshole-ish on the right that freak you out.
00:40:04.000Like, my God, the way this man carries himself, the way this woman lives her life, the way they talk, the way they treat people, I want to be like that.
00:40:25.000And if we are, as a group, aligned with only one of two choices, and so you're either on this side or you're on that side, and you always look at the people across the fence, fuck you, and they look at you, fucking losers.
00:42:15.000So then you just have a shit ton of insecure people battling each other because they're both somehow incapable of saying, yeah, our guy sucks.
00:44:19.000You should be able to be alone with kids.
00:44:21.000We should put this in the fucking Constitution.
00:44:24.000We should have built into how we're doing these things like prerequisites.
00:44:29.000Prerequisites for the job, just like any other job.
00:44:33.000It doesn't have to be intense prerequisites, but it's just really depressing when there's a prohibition on just pointing out the obvious shit.
00:45:19.000If you decide that this government no longer has power over the people, and then a bunch of people start assuming power and saying that they have power, you got a real fucking problem.
00:45:33.000It's like that's the only way it's going to change.
00:45:36.000I think there's other ways it could change, but what it would require is...
00:45:41.000When I say change, I mean like a complete restructuring.
00:45:45.000I don't mean like let's make it so the politics don't get bought out by money.
00:45:50.000I mean a way where people have to be informed about the things that they have opinions on that are super critical.
00:45:58.000So like there's a real responsibility for everyone that's involved in all these decision-making aspects of voting to know what the fuck the consequences are for real.
00:46:09.000The problem is when it comes to certain things like climate change, right?
00:46:13.000You say climate change, you don't agree with the consensus of climate change?
00:46:18.000If you don't jump on board immediately, people want to bark at you and very few of them have done any research.
00:46:27.000And I'm not saying that climate change is not real.
00:46:30.000I'm just saying when something's like that, Where it's like, this is what it is, and the science is...
00:46:35.000Almost immediately, I'm like, hold on.
00:46:58.000Talked about whether it's the ice ages come in or whether it's a there's always been some big fear-mongering thing about some climate disaster It's always happened You know, it's funny to me about that stuff is people take themselves out of the climate So it's like people talk about climate change as though the climate were something external right to the human whereas like there's an Interior climate like a subconscious climate A semi-conscious climate that is
00:47:28.000the sum total of the interior lives of everyone on the planet.
00:47:32.000And that gets left out because we can't quantify it.
00:47:48.000And so whenever you're seeing a war happen, you are looking at like a sort of subjective internal yet collective societal hurricane happening and destroying stuff, but it's doing it via like the human system,
00:48:19.000Carl Jung, I'm sure a million people have already said this on your podcast.
00:48:22.000His idea was that leaders are a projection of the collective unconscious.
00:48:29.000So whatever the world leader is that you're looking at, you're actually looking at a physical representation of Of the internal subjective lives of the collective, right?
00:48:40.000So when you see like a Biden, you're seeing the shadow of society.
00:48:46.000When you're seeing a Trump, it's our shadow.
00:48:56.000Whoever the person is that ends up being the mouthpiece for all of us, we all have a tiny little thread of quantum energy injected into that thing and we're kind of looking at ourselves.
00:49:08.000Part of ourselves we might not want to admit is there.
00:49:11.000So the idea would be if You can find in your own little internal climate a way to cool it down.
00:49:37.000Find a way to be stable, consistently.
00:49:41.000Every day in your own life and stability will appear naturally around you, right?
00:49:47.000But if you are prone to reactivity, anger, freakouts, whatever it is, mania, whatever the thing is, then The people around you, they're always kind of worried like, what version of this dude am I getting today?
00:50:09.000And if it's really extreme the way your behavior is warping and shifting, you could only expect chaos around you because people get nervous around instability, right?
00:50:23.000Like if suddenly a wave of reactivity swept through the whole planet and people started thinking it was normal to like pendulum between moods and to react to the moods and like, this is me or what the fuck or extremes, then you would expect the representation of all of us to be kind of fucked up.
00:50:43.000And so the idea is if we could all kind of calm down a little bit, find some peace, find a way to like be actually calm, not repressed.
00:50:51.000Like, you know, when you're freaking out on mushrooms and you try to pretend you're not or when you go to a party where they give weed.
00:50:57.000I don't know if you ever been to an edible weed party.
00:51:31.000I remember talking to this dude who was telling me about the cannabis community.
00:51:34.000It was really interesting because I was beyond barbecued to the point where like words were coming out and I would hear the sounds That the words would make, and I would see the words coming out of the person's mouth.
00:51:52.000I got like bars of feelings, like registered feelings above each word.
00:51:58.000So as this guy was talking, I could tell what he was trying to do.
00:52:02.000And he was trying to say that he loves and appreciates the cannabis community and he feels very close to them as a community and that they all have each other's backs.
00:52:12.000I know if anything goes wrong with me, the cannabis community has my back.
00:52:16.000And it was this thing that he was doing when he was communicating with me because I was so barbecued.
00:52:22.000I got to realize that's what we're doing all the time.
00:53:09.000Literally, everything you see is your mind because your sense organs are taking in phenomena and that's all getting translated via your brain into something we call reality.
00:53:21.000So, literally, when you're seeing the color yellow, You're seeing your own mind.
00:53:25.000That's the way your mind translates whatever the particular wavelength of yellow is into the thing that you call yellow.
00:54:13.000When you get really fucking confused, not realizing this is on my mind, you start picking shit out.
00:54:19.000This person, that person, this thing, that thing, and you would start attaching to it.
00:54:24.000You start attaching to it to try to feel better, right?
00:54:27.000So you're like, if I can make this person like me, I'm gonna feel better now.
00:54:31.000I'm gonna feel good again or something's gonna make me feel better and This is what what you're talking about.
00:54:37.000This is where you begin the never-ending cycle In Buddhism called samsara where it's just a never-ending attempt to rearrange your mind into some way that is going to give you a sense of like, okay Everything's fine now never-ending Never-ending!
00:54:55.000Not only never-ending in this life, but literally zillions of incarnations.
00:55:00.000You've been doing the same fucking thing over and over again in different ways.
00:55:04.000And so the moment you realize this is my mind, this is all my mind, then all of a sudden that's when shit gets really interesting because now you might begin to change the way you start trying to get shit out of your mind,
00:55:21.000out of like, you know, Getting the thing you desire, pushing away.
00:56:43.000I mean, again, I'm not saying that you don't need from time to time to set boundaries and tell someone, don't fucking do that.
00:56:49.000But at least for me personally, a lot of the time, the stuff that I was getting all bristly about, It really was just my own, it was my own bullshit.
00:57:01.000There wasn't really anything to get bristly about or to defend against there.
00:57:06.000And when you start doing that kind of like internal piecework, man, all of a sudden shit around you starts changing because it's your mind.
00:57:17.000The idea is if this is all your mind, then if your mind calmed down, maybe all this stuff around you would calm down too.
00:57:28.000So if you start getting calm, if you start getting a little space between you and your thoughts, just maybe, just maybe that your enemies won't seem quite like enemies anymore.
00:57:41.000The people that you have been waking up in the middle of the night thinking about pouring acid in their mouth.
01:00:07.000And you're interacting with people that are nowhere near you, primarily.
01:00:14.000Most of your human interactions are coming via cyber world, which is fucking bizarre to accept.
01:00:22.000And then on top of that, you're probably having to sit through traffic, and you're probably stacked on top of a bunch of people in an apartment building, and you're probably annoyed that there's so many fucking people around you all.
01:00:36.000It's an unnatural state for most people.
01:01:55.000Premises that potentially 5g could be used as some kind of radar system that like it's so powerful that you could theoretically see people moving inside of buildings Using 5g somehow there might be a way to like look at the way the 5g is being like I don't know Doesn't that make sense though that like ultimately that's gonna happen and if we have phones and everybody carries a phone with them So you know where you're...
01:02:21.000Unless you're one of those really rebellious ultra-marathon runners who puts his fucking phone in his desk drawer when he gets into work and just leaves it there all day.
01:04:11.000It's like, but imagine if it was just on screens in your house, right?
01:04:15.000Like if hanging in your house, there was, I don't know, just a light that if someone starts speaking misinformation, it starts glowing red or something.
01:04:24.000And you're like, oh shit, that thing you just said, it's like the light's blinking, so it's bullshit.
01:04:32.000It'd be scary, but somehow because it's like we still externalize the Social media as like an outside space even though it's in our house It's in our pockets right next to us all the time.
01:04:43.000Yeah, it seems like alright, you know the whatever that is.
01:04:46.000It's just on the outside It's not on the inside yet, but it's really it's it's it's kind of is you turn on the TV I don't care what you're fucking watching man.
01:04:55.000I mean, it's like Okay It's fucked up that Everybody knows that most of our politicians in some way, shape, or form are making money from various- How much do you think they make?
01:05:09.000Like, how much do you think Obama's worth?
01:07:05.000I don't know how much the president gets to know.
01:07:09.000Because the problem is a guy like Trump.
01:07:11.000Like, what would keep him from blabbing?
01:07:13.000If they told him, I mean, he was on a show once and they asked him about UFOs too, and he said something about he knows some things, but he can't talk about them.
01:07:37.000But if you say there's some things I know and I can't talk about them, I think that's basically what he said.
01:07:43.000But aren't we post thinking UFOs are fake now?
01:07:46.000Like now, if you believe UFOs are bullshit, you're in a minority now.
01:07:51.000Because you're talking about the US government has been doing like hearings where they are saying, yeah, some of this stuff we don't know, but we've picked it up.
01:09:18.000I mean it's got to be more sophisticated than that now, right?
01:09:20.000Yeah, now it's just like it's looking at ripples or something like it's not there's no space in between it's just instantaneously you could see whatever the fuck it is.
01:09:29.000So whatever the fuck this thing was they tracked this and this thing moved in a way that is indescribable.
01:09:34.000Look they can't they can't imagine some way using the methods that we know about propulsion systems and applying it to this craft and getting it to move the way it did.
01:09:44.000We, we've said this, I've said this, I feel like we've said everything once on your podcast by now, but like, coral reef, some blind creature starts developing an optic nerve.
01:09:55.000And all of a sudden, one day after billions of years or millions of years evolution, the eye opens.
01:10:02.000You see the coral reef instead of just having to like sense movement in the fucking coral reef.
01:10:07.000That's gonna be a crazy moment for the first thing to see that when all it's been feeling are these like weird shifts and movements.
01:10:14.000So probably whatever this technology is and if you like go like Terence McKenna and look at technology as some kind of appendage of the planet, some new sensory apparatus that's appearing out of the collective,
01:10:32.000then probably we're just getting the ability to see what's really out there.
01:10:38.000What's really out there is probably what people have been saying for thousands of years, people who spent lifetimes meditating in the forest and went through all this weird shit, and they started seeing it too.
01:10:49.000What's out there is innumerable forms of life and intelligence that aren't locked into the classic idea of what life looks like, carbon-based life, or just starting to see the cause.
01:11:03.000That's what they used to call them, the gods, angels, whatever.
01:11:24.000That we've been colonized a long time ago, and they just go in and out of the ocean, do as they please, move in ways that we can't track, we don't understand, and it wasn't until really, really recently that they even be able to use radar to detect them.
01:11:39.000Like, when was the invention of radar?
01:12:18.000You know, when you discuss ancient civilizations and you look at the Great Pyramids of Egypt and all the structures of Egypt, they're so magnificent.
01:12:27.000That you have to wonder, like, what was that society like?
01:12:31.000What was that culture like when those things were up and running?
01:13:56.000So you have to find, like, organic material in between the rocks, stuff that's around the rocks, but you don't really know when everybody cut it.
01:14:02.000You just make a really good assessment based on the carbon-based data But the thing is, you don't know when they cut that.
01:15:51.000The bottom line is, there's so many stones.
01:15:55.000I think the numbers, I had a bid on it.
01:15:57.000If you cut in place 10 stones a day, it's 664 years for one pyramid.
01:16:03.000So they think they pulled them on ropes and pulleys and shit, but dude, they're cut so perfectly, you can't get a razor blade in between them.
01:16:11.000It's what's funny is like we, to try to understand stuff, we obviously, we try to use a precedent, like our own technology.
01:16:19.000So we use the height of our technology and then try to think about how they did it.
01:16:24.000But if we're talking about, I mean- It's possible that we only exist, well, we exist in more than one reality.
01:16:35.000We're in time-space right now, but there's aspects of us that are outside of time-space.
01:16:41.000There's aspects of us that we Call our soul or whatever.
01:16:46.000It's some hyper-dimensional formation that like flowers with each incarnation like when a flower blooms, that's your life and then it dies and another flower blooms.
01:16:56.000That's your next life and another flower blooms.
01:16:58.000So if that's what's going on and Yeah.
01:17:21.000You know, you could just make it, like, bring stones from...
01:17:28.000Like, I'm sure that however cognizant a monkey is, like, when it's, like, using a tool or showing its friends how to use a tool or its kids how to, like, break open a nut or how to use the stick to get the ants out,
01:18:14.000Yeah, this thing I have pulled up says in 1303 AD there's an earthquake that loosened up some of it and I guess that's when they took it all.
01:18:23.000And then people start stealing it and they use it to build stuff.
01:18:30.000They stole pieces of rock from one of the greatest constructions human beings have ever known to build whatever shitty thing they were gonna make.
01:19:50.000Like the whole bleeding and leeching and then before that, whatever the weird medieval-like ways people would treat disease, you know, like crazy, like take a rag, horse piss and wrap it around their head and then like put them above a fire for three days.
01:20:06.000It'll cure their pox and everyone believes it.
01:20:13.000Now we've figured out medical technology for sure.
01:20:17.000Like, we 100% know everything about the way the human body works, which is why when you go into a doctor, you know, depending on who the doctor is, you mention some other possible therapy, they'll laugh you out of the room.
01:20:29.000They're like, get the fuck out of here, that's quackery!
01:20:32.000And sometimes they're right, but sometimes they're probably wrong.
01:20:35.000I mean, my point is, it's just funny, because you have to live in a world where you are surrounded by people who think In one way of really leaning into the idea that we've all kind of worked out the thing.
01:21:09.000You don't need to look into that anymore because we figured it out when probably we really haven't figured out much of anything.
01:21:18.000Probably what's really going on is so astounding that if you actually saw what it was, you might die.
01:21:25.000You might just blip out of reality or cease to exist.
01:21:28.000It's so wild, whatever the actual thing is.
01:21:30.000It's an alternative version of history and the alternative version is that there's actual evidence that the Earth was assaulted by comet impacts around 12,000 years ago.
01:21:42.000And there's also actual evidence Yeah.
01:23:07.000I think, if you think about how quickly people went from that, like the riding horses and shooting things off a horseback, which was like...
01:23:19.000You know, obviously the Mongols, that's how they did war.
01:23:28.000If you think about the pyramids being 5,000 years ago, from 800 years ago to now, from 800 years ago to horseback, drinking horse milk with blood mixed in, because that's how you're going to stay alive when you're on this long campaign.
01:24:52.000It'd make people calm down a little bit, wouldn't it?
01:24:54.000Like, if you could go back and look at tweets from 700 BC and, like, realize how insignificant you are in that vast scope of time, that would be really good for us, man.
01:25:07.000I think that's part of the problem, is that those big gaps in what we know about civilization have created this, like, Really terrible, I don't know what you would call it, like some kind of like societal narcissism or some kind of like crazy idea that like,
01:25:25.000no, no, no, your life, like this life that you're in right now, this 70 year span in the midst of this ocean of time, no, no, no, no.
01:25:34.000For sure it's the most important life.
01:28:35.000Well, I don't know the most, but they're super fucking important.
01:28:37.000And I think we think of them frivolously.
01:28:40.000The problem was like things like video games because video games can be insidiously addictive because in many ways they're more stimulating than real life.
01:28:48.000Like you and I have both had like major problems with video games.
01:29:11.000I've gotten it down to like maybe like an hour and a half maybe.
01:29:16.000But also lately I've just sort of got like it doesn't interest me as much.
01:29:21.000This is a weird thing I'm noticing is like Do you ever like, when you break an addiction to video games or whatever, you don't miss the video game or whatever you're addicted to, but you miss the addiction itself?
01:29:36.000You know what I'm talking to where you're like, I kind of liked being addicted.
01:30:23.000That kind of shit is so addictive to people because it's so thrilling and you get no consequences when you get killed other than you feel like shit.
01:34:41.000I think that could really be what's going on, man.
01:34:45.000This shit just keeps getting in this, whatever this little bubble we're in, it always gets more advanced, it always gets more hypnotic, it always gets more spectacular.
01:34:55.000We die, we take a break, then we pop back in.
01:36:03.000Jamie, would you mind going on, I think it's DeForum on Twitter, and then scroll down, and somewhere he's posted, really, like, at the very top of his tweets, it says, like, AI virtual reality.
01:37:45.000I mean, and also that you're going to be wearing augmented reality goggles or glasses that are doing the same thing to your environment in real time.
01:37:52.000So, like, you're, you know, this stable diffusion ship, man, you can give it a, like, an MP4, just a video clip, and it'll take every frame and then...
01:38:04.000Generate like a new image based on the image.
01:38:09.000You could like, you know, I took a video of Johnny Pemberton and like, it's like Johnny Pemberton rapping in studio, shirtless, gold chains.
01:38:19.000And you know, he's wearing a shirt, but it took that video and over each clip, no shirt, gold chains, made a music studio around him that kind of undulates in and out.
01:38:31.000So it's like, This, to me, man, this is gonna change everything.
01:38:40.000It's like, once it's wearable, and you can just decide, you know, today, can you put me in a primordial forest?
01:38:48.000So, like, wherever I go, everything's just, like, trees and dinosaurs and stuff.
01:41:18.000It's like you want that, that's what you're gonna get.
01:41:20.000The people running these simulations and these AR, are they gonna be entranced with it too?
01:41:27.000The people that are creating these, or are we just gonna give it up to AI? Like, are we going to give up to power to AI? Or are people going to be curating these experiences for people?
01:41:38.000I mean, it's going to— Will it come to a point in time where they can't do that anymore?
01:41:42.000I think it'll be like, you know, like, when I've been doing this text-to-art shit, you actually—it takes time to figure out the right prompts to get it to make the thing you want it to make.
01:41:52.000Like Mid-Journey, which is this incredible text-to-art AI. Part of the fun is you sit there trying to think of what is it that we want this thing to make.
01:42:11.000With, like, Justin Roiland, a bunch of these other artists, we were all trying to do different versions of, like, Bill Cosby eating beautiful sausages and, like, just trying to type in different versions of it on mid-journey to, like, make it, like, to dial in whatever the fuck.
01:42:27.000Bill Cosby on a rollercoaster made of human baby meat.
01:42:32.000You know, shit like that just to see what you can make, but you really do have to figure out the prompts.
01:42:36.000So I think initially it's definitely going to be curated by people who know how to generate the prompts and make it make whatever the fuck it is.
01:42:44.000But gradually it's going to get better and better at understanding what it is you're wanting.
01:42:50.000And then at that point it'll probably be Like, you know, you'll be more in control of what you're seeing on your screen at first, and then in VR, and then in AR, I would say.
01:43:27.000There'll be people who are really good at making them.
01:43:30.000And then there's going to be people who become like the Steven Spielberg of...
01:43:37.000Augmented reality like reality replacement.
01:43:40.000But wouldn't the curated shit become like the NBC, CBS, ABC version and then there's gonna be a blockchain version of AI where everybody agrees to have no centralized power and it just all gets created and curated and adjusted by the people that work inside the system.
01:44:50.000And if that's the norm, that might be our way out of this.
01:44:52.000If there's a way where you can get out of centralized power and the way is that it's almost impossible to avoid, just like it's impossible to not have a cell phone now.
01:45:06.000You can be a renegade, but most people don't.
01:45:10.000What if it becomes like that with this?
01:45:12.000And what if it becomes like that with decentralized AI? And if we all agree that this is the best way, and there's no manipulation, there's no coercion for you to opt in to a corporate controlled AI. You're like, why would I do that?
01:45:50.000Just like what the internet is doing for the exchange of information.
01:45:54.000It's kind of like putting it in the hands of people that really never would have gotten into that position if they were involved in the corporate system.
01:46:00.000Maybe it'll be like that with AI as well.
01:46:03.000I mean, the stuff is most certainly being like, at least, you know, that stuff is open source.
01:46:09.000When you are working with it, it's like, man, I'm telling you, it's like going into a wizard's library or something.
01:46:18.000You're having to like, Pull out these weird tomes called collabs, these weird things on GitHub.
01:46:27.000And like, you know, like going on YouTube channels like Prophet of the Singularity to like the name of the YouTube channels, Prophet of the Singularity, to get tutorials on how to make this shit work.
01:46:39.000And it's all just people sharing information.
01:47:30.000And then some other wizard gets it and they're like, okay, I can make that better.
01:47:33.000And then it gets a little better and a little better.
01:47:34.000And then the AI starts making it better on its own.
01:47:37.000It's like, all right, maybe I'll analyze this, the things my master's created.
01:47:40.000And then let's see if I can make myself better.
01:47:43.000That's that's how you get to McKenna's Singularity.
01:47:46.000It's open-source collaboration between these geniuses and they don't honestly I don't think they give a fuck who it is working on it like anybody can like participate It's really cool man.
01:48:47.000Paul Saladino sent me some data on seed oils.
01:48:52.000They're connecting seed oils and consumption of seed oils, which is in fucking everything, to macular degeneration, to some people's vision issues.
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01:50:08.000inflammation and reduced blood oxygen flow causes damage to the photoreceptors, rods, and cones, and the blood vessels of the macula of the retina.
01:50:52.000To add insult to injury, these types of fats also make their way into most man-made and high-sugar foods such as cakes, pastries, fried foods, salad dressings, dips, margarines, coffee creamers, cooking oils, and more.
01:51:13.000Max Lugavere and I talked about that on the podcast recently where he's discussing the nutritional benefits of olive oil, how good olive oil is for you.
01:55:57.000Are we just naive idiots that we are like astounded that humans could be that fucking evil to warp reality in a way, to poison people for money?
01:56:19.000That's where the hacking happens because we want to feel safe.
01:56:22.000You want to believe that- You want to believe we got it figured out now.
01:56:26.000And you want to believe that there aren't people like that.
01:56:30.000Literal warlocks, like literal evil wizards making bad potions and dispensing them to the people, poisoning them, and then trying to tell them that it's medicine.
01:56:42.000Well, we'll go even further than that, what people are capable of.
01:57:07.000And I know it's become a right versus left issue, but this speaks to what we were talking about before.
01:57:13.000Jimmy Kimmel had a monologue where he was talking about right-wing people being scared of fentanyl coming in from the border in the form of candy during Halloween.
01:57:23.000Oh, you know, this is like that joke that keeps popping up.
01:58:12.000Is it a concern that people are going to come across the border and give kids poisoned candy?
01:58:17.000I don't think that's the concern, but to make light of this idea that the fentanyl issue is not a giant, terrifying issue that's killing somewhere like 100,000 people are dying of this drug every day.
01:58:34.000Is there some dispute about that it's the number one killer of kids 18 to 45?
01:59:27.000Is that the number one killer of people 18 to 49?
01:59:30.000But what I'm saying is, if it's not fentanyl that's the number one killer, is it opioids that are the number one killer of people 18 to 49?
02:00:05.000So many people listen to your fucking podcast, there's probably someone making fentanyl right now listening to this shit like, come on, it's not that bad!
02:00:13.000A study by an advocacy group says that fentanyl is the leading cause of death for people ages 18 to 45 compared with other major causes of death such as automobile accidents, cancer, and suicide.
02:00:26.000Heart disease, cancer, and COVID-19 outrank opioid overdoses as leading causes of death among all American adults.
02:00:35.000I wonder, though, and I'm not discrediting the fact that people died from COVID, but we do know that a lot of people who died from COVID were already dying, and they listed them as COVID deaths, including people with cancer.
02:00:46.000If you're taking opioids and your immune system is fucking destroyed and you're on your way out the door and you catch COVID, you're probably not going to make it.
02:00:55.000Did COVID kill you or were you already dying?
02:02:15.000It's probably amazing, but there's also the problem that they give it to you when you get hurt.
02:02:22.000It's so it's hard to get off of I know a bunch of people that have gotten injured and then they got on Something and then whatever that painkiller was they had a really hard time getting off dude I flirted with that shit for a second and then something changed in my brain I used to like it.
02:02:36.000I used to like taking like a Vicodin and Like I like the buzz but then it's the weirdest thing man.
02:02:42.000Just one day It'd been a long time since I'd taken any of them.
02:02:45.000I took it and And I just got really sick.
02:03:11.000I remember I took that old NyQuil in the 90s and I was sick one day and I took it and I was sitting in my bed watching TV and I couldn't have felt more loved.
02:06:22.000It's like the whole timeline of like every year of NyQuil and how popular it was and all the ads about it and I think it's changed multiple times.
02:06:31.000I didn't say there was codeine in it specifically, but...
02:08:14.000Like, it's already eaten your liver up or something.
02:08:16.000I don't know if this is just, like, some horror story I heard.
02:08:19.000But I heard that's how it works, is once...
02:08:21.000You're going to be alive a little bit...
02:08:24.000You're gonna survive a little bit longer than after your liver is like kind of liquefied or something and then so it's a terrible OD. It's a terrible OD. Fuck that.
02:11:02.000And I'm thinking, you know, man, if you go take Xanax, Right now, I guarantee this headache's gonna go away, because this is some kind of withdrawal, for sure.
02:11:11.000And I'm like, if I fucking go take Xanax, that's how you get addicted to Xanax.
02:13:14.000They're on pharmaceutical medications.
02:13:18.000But yeah, I think a lot like probably a lot of people who are on pills As awful as they are, and man, I'll tell you, man, I'm very close to someone who's related to someone who has an opioid addict.
02:14:13.000Not just like direct families, it goes out and ripples.
02:14:17.000So when you see 70,000 people died of opioid overdoses, that's just the people who died.
02:14:24.000You're not seeing all the people who are close to death or the walking dead and the way that's impacting families and there's shame attached to it so people don't talk about it.
02:15:10.000It's scary that people are willing to do stuff like that for profit and then once it happens and once you get that profit, you want to keep that profit rolling in so you keep selling it.
02:15:20.000And you keep finding ways to prescribe it for people.
02:15:33.000They made so much money selling that stuff.
02:15:35.000The thing is, if heroin was legal, like real, regular heroin, and people could snort it, and you get pure heroin, would all that stuff even exist anymore?
02:17:44.000They're so smart because they're like, oh yeah, they got a PR person out there like, yeah, back in the day, the mob was doing all kinds of crazy stuff.
02:18:54.000I have gotten to the point where I recognize that The government isn't evil.
02:19:00.000It's trying to do something, and that thing it's trying to do is really fucking hard.
02:19:05.000It's trying to create a democracy, a place where you could raise your kids, not have kids, whatever, but live a relatively free life, be healthy, happy.
02:19:22.000So within it, there's chunks of really nefarious bad shit.
02:19:27.000But it's like, at some point, you look at the wars between governments and mob, mafia, organized crime, and it's like, really, what's the...
02:19:47.000I mean strategically when you look at it.
02:19:51.000If you take any classic drug dealer, any mid-level drug dealer, Make them like 500 times more powerful and they become a pharmaceutical company, right?
02:20:05.000Like at some point you go from like selling illegal drugs to just starting a company, making fentanyl, and then legally selling synthetic heroin and being protected by the police.
02:20:47.000So, I don't know, it seems like, I don't know, I always think it's funny when you're hearing about them bugging their hubcaps and stuff, and it's just like, shit, man, it seems like it's just another mob war.
02:20:58.000You know, they're not calling themselves the mob, they're calling themselves the government.
02:21:03.000But it's still kind of a mob, it's just one very, very powerful mob fighting.
02:21:06.000You gotta be careful about malinformation, Duncan.
02:26:00.000It's what we were talking about before.
02:26:02.000That desire to be the head of the clan.
02:26:05.000The desire to be the head of the tribe is instilled in all of us.
02:26:09.000We were in these little tribal groups for most of the time that we were humans.
02:26:15.000For thousands of years we lived like that.
02:26:18.000Until they figured out transportation, until they figured out how to ride animals, until they figured out how to branch out, until they figured out boats.
02:26:32.000No, but it's instilled in the DNA you're a logical person.
02:26:37.000But I would imagine if you weren't, and if it was also instilled upon you as a small child that that's the best job in the world, and you can't sing and you can't dance, and you're not good at writing books, you can be the fucking president.
02:27:08.000And they learn how to talk in a certain way, and they're convincing enough, and they've got enough people to cover up their dirty secrets, that they can get into a position of extreme power.
02:27:22.000And the only way out of that is people realizing how dumb that is and people not wanting to do it anymore and you get a smaller and smaller group of people that are running and a less and less interesting and charismatic group of people that are running because nobody wants that fucking eye of Sauron on you.
02:27:40.000Nobody wants that microscope and your fucking your life and all of your details of it and you want to be the president of what?
02:29:06.000What if everybody was just like, nah, we're not interested in the job.
02:29:09.000The problem is there's always going to be militaries.
02:29:12.000There's always going to be people that are in charge of the militaries.
02:29:14.000If you're in charge of the biggest military and you have the biggest might, You know, you have a real significant advantage over everybody else that's talking shit and trying to do things.
02:29:24.000And maybe you're interfering in these countries.
02:29:26.000Maybe you're fucking finagling behind the scenes and, you know, sowing the seeds of resentment and hate around the world because of your policies.
02:31:53.000You know, it is curious to me, though, like, we do live in a time now where it seems like there, like, if you just, it seems like there's almost like a prohibition.
02:32:02.000People don't want you to say, like, maybe we shouldn't go to war.
02:32:39.000Clearly, there's one party that has escalated this to the point of violence, and it's the worst thing that could ever happen in the world, when a neighboring country invades a neighboring country.
02:32:50.000Fucking Jesus Christ, the world has to sit back and watch this.
02:34:21.000They're gonna surrender right away and then He's gonna like take a chunk of Ukraine and then everything Everything like ends but it sucks because still yet whatever but it's like it's not working so even There's no way to,
02:34:38.000like, say, like, all right, well, let's concede this, the Donbass or whatever to Russia, because Ukraine's like, fuck that.
02:36:09.000As grotesque as it might be to sit down and try to negotiate with people who thought it was a good idea to just fucking invade another country and kill a bunch of people, it's preferable to nuclear holocaust.
02:36:26.000Like, you know, that whole thing, there was a period, I don't know if you did that, but for a while you start watching documentaries on Putin, and you catch that weird aspect of them, you're like...
02:36:36.000There's something kind of cool about him, right?
02:36:38.000There was, like, this weird cool thing.
02:37:10.000I mean, I feel like such a stupid hippie, because it's like, I don't know anything.
02:37:15.000I'm sure if I was a Ukrainian and my children had been blown up, I would be like, yeah, let the fucking nuclear bomb come, because I don't have anything else to live for.
02:37:53.000Fucking horrible, but it's like, how do you, how do you, how do you get like, logic or like, Human reasoning to appear in the most illogical, unreasonable thing, which is fucking war.
02:38:07.000How do you summon the spirit of rationality in a place where people, just for living, had their children's playground blown up?
02:38:20.000People were at a playground and fucking Russia shot missiles into it.
02:38:25.000How do you fucking make that work after that?
02:41:50.000So they've killed at least 22,000 and perhaps as many as 48,000 since the 9-11 terror attacks.
02:41:57.000The analysis based on U.S. military's own assertion is that it has conducted almost 100,000 airstrikes since 2001. Holy shit, dude.
02:42:09.000Represents an attempt to estimate the number of civilian deaths across the multiple conflicts that have comprised aspects of the war on terror.
02:43:07.000For everybody, for loved ones, for society as we know it.
02:43:10.000It's terrifying for everything about everything about life.
02:43:13.000And it's like, what's really, I think, the most like, the thing that freaks me out the most is like, truly, all that has to happen is one dude...
02:44:23.000And we just forget that that's how humans are kind of hardwired.
02:44:27.000And I really, I mean, obviously, I'm not an anthropologist, but I would assume that that has something to do with the way we developed in tribes.
02:44:34.000And we can't get away from it with that guy.
02:44:37.000We can't get away with the Trump lovers, with everything.
02:44:40.000Everybody wants some person that's our solution to all those things.
02:45:35.000It's changed my life Anytime Instead of the old days when I'd blither and blather and ear beat people with some spiritual fucking advice for their lives.
02:45:44.000Anytime I'm about to do that, I don't.
02:49:27.000Recognize like you can't you should stop hurting people right like it's not and and I I speak as someone who like a lot would rationalize really bad Traits is like, you know, man, that's what I'm like.
02:49:42.000And it's like, no, it doesn't have that.
02:51:33.000That could be Available to everybody, but it's being withheld from you by people who haven't experienced it It makes no fucking sense The people that are trying to keep you from doing mushrooms for sure aren't doing mushrooms Because if they were they would realize that the thing to do would be to spread these to everybody and to give people the chance to recognize That maybe they're under the the hypnotism the maybe they're under the spell a certain frequency That's not the only way to live You can live in a different frequency.
02:52:03.000You can establish a different frequency amongst the people you love.
02:52:06.000You can establish a different frequency with yourself.
02:52:51.000I mean, especially if we figure out a way to grow it legally where shit gets inspected, it's going to be good for you.
02:52:58.000Dude, I bet five grams of mushrooms is more intense than death.
02:53:01.000Like, whatever that experience is probably makes...
02:53:05.000Like, when you're dying, when you're actually dying, you're like, fuck, man, this is, like, so much nicer than that time I took five grams of mushrooms.
02:53:59.000You're just looking at someone who's really tight in the fucking tourniquet between them and Infinity to the point where they're just like filling up with their own ego and like the shit of this world.
02:54:09.000They get really puffed and mean and cruel and defensive and scared.
02:54:55.000That's when you're really gonna calm down.
02:54:57.000Because it's not quite the same anymore.
02:55:00.000And then just that little bit of calming down, it's gonna make other people around you calm down.
02:55:04.000I'm telling you, man, the conversation doesn't have to be around politics.
02:55:11.000It should be eventually around politics, because that's what shapes laws and everything like that, but it needs to start with this fundamental truth, which is humans can suffer less.
02:55:23.000You, as an individual, don't have to suffer as much as you're suffering.
02:55:27.000There's ways for you to reduce your suffering in a real way that don't involve fentanyl, Doesn't involve opioids, doesn't involve the nitrous hit of power or winning at gambling.
02:55:38.000There's an actual way that you can like...
02:55:42.000Well, you know, one of the words for enlightenment and Buddhism translates to extinguish.
02:57:54.000Become increasingly stable is the wildest thing to watch like I watch you go through like a weird I don't know what but I just watch you go through all these fit not that when we met you're already pretty like Calm and cool, but not quite as calm and cool as you are now like you started like it was weird watching it happen like you found a way I still get upset sometimes unfortunately me too I always feel bad after I got upset But but I'm way more calm and way more rational about who I am now that I that I used to be and Yeah.
02:58:53.000But I think for everybody, it's like, and you too, like we all do work on ourselves, right?
02:58:57.000So as you're getting older and experiences you have that are negative, you learn from them and positive, you enforce those and you just, you learn to get better at being you, you know?
02:59:20.000Oh yeah, and you forget you're on marijuana.
02:59:23.000Yeah, you forget you're under the spell of an ancient plant that has manipulated creativity for thousands and thousands of years and is also illegal.
02:59:32.000Which is the dumbest fucking thing on earth.
02:59:35.000That's the dumbest one because it's legal in so many places now.
03:00:15.000Last week, President Joe Biden announced the largest act of clemency in a generation, a mass pardon for people convicted of federal marijuana possession.
03:01:40.000It influences the cultural narrative, and it could potentially cause, like, a shift in views around, like, marijuana consumption long term.
03:01:49.000But, you know, yeah, it's dark that no one's actually getting out, that it was just a fucking...
03:02:57.000Long term, that would be a really good thing for you.
03:03:00.000Like, I'm for, I don't have anything against, like, this is probably not real, because it helps me as someone who gets sucked into everything.
03:03:10.000Like, I go on Reddit conspiracy, and it's like...
03:04:21.000We're just saying that that is one of...
03:04:24.000There was another case that happened in, like, the 1980s or something.
03:04:28.000There's been a few of those weird cases where, like, you gotta think that throughout history there have been people that have trafficked children.
03:04:40.000Oh my god, when you take any long trip, you ever think about that?
03:04:46.000Any long trip that you take, how many fucking U-Hauls going by, have people locked up in them?
03:04:50.000Probably like statistically one or two.
03:04:52.000Probably like you've been at a rest stop next to a fucking U-Haul that was filled with drugged people waiting to get taken to some God knows where lab.
03:05:02.000I mean, don't they say human trafficking is like one of the number one industries, right?
03:05:08.000Human trafficking is real and it's happening right now.
03:05:10.000And there's been studies on it where they try to figure out what the numbers are, but how do you know who's been trafficked if they're missing?
03:05:21.000I wonder what the actual number is, but apparently it's a terrifying number.
03:06:20.000That there's levels to fucked up, just like there's levels to everything.
03:06:25.000Look, man, I mean, oh God, it's just, we, especially people like us, look, I've said it before on this podcast, I'm quoting Jack Kornfield here, tend to the part of the garden you can touch.
03:06:42.000As far as the other stuff goes, it's like, if you can help, If you're a human trafficker right now listening to this, driving your fucking U-Haul across the country filled with freight that you're gonna make, stop!
03:06:58.000Obviously no one's gonna do that, but most people it's like, you're not having to deal with that.
03:07:03.000You're really just having to deal with the fact that when you wake up in a bad mood, you think it makes sense for the rest of the day to be a dick to other people.
03:07:10.000Just because you feel like you're in a bad mood.
03:07:34.000Look, maybe you're not in a position right now where you can help anybody, but for sure you don't have to say the shitty thing you're about to say to somebody because you're mad.
03:07:48.000Like, if you're someone who's been, like, saying mean things to people your whole life, woo!
03:07:53.000You know, they say, and I read this thing, in a yogi's life, for a yogi, the greatest moment is when they were going to react with anger, and they didn't.
03:08:11.000Manage to like rein in that fucking thing just once is a big deal, but you know if you keep doing it That's when you start multi traveling through the multiverse because everything around you gets completely different quick You know just that one little thing I speak is like a someone who's had real anger shit and like as do I yeah,
03:08:32.000yeah It's a it's a thing, you know that I constantly struggle with You get upset about things and you have to keep them under control.
03:08:41.000And it's hard to have a balanced perspective.
03:08:46.000You know, it's it's hard when someone cuts you off in traffic to just let it go and not say fuck you Yeah, it's like he can't even hear you and you're still like fuck you man That was such a douche move.
03:08:58.000Yeah, but you're not gonna change him.
03:09:00.000No like that That's who he is at this moment and he's cutting people off on the highway And you just got to adjust and adapt and don't get into one of those fucking things or people break check each other and get in front of each other It's so scary man You ever see people doing that on the highway and you're like, oh my god,
03:09:54.000What happened is those people, because they didn't get a hold of the fucking dragon, Because of it, most of the time they got away with it.
03:10:03.000Those, obviously, whoever those people are, that's not the first time they got angry.
03:12:18.000It's a strange thing, the management of the mind as you move through life and also the management of all the other shit around you.
03:12:26.000What you consume, how much you freak out about Ukraine, how much you freak out about dirty bombs, how much you freak out about fentanyl, how much you freak out about everything, how much you freak out about every fucking social issue that ever comes up, whether it's the environment or...
03:13:09.000But what's cool about that is that that's a powerful thing.
03:13:13.000It is a powerful thing and being able to have more control over it is a great feeling because it makes you feel like you can do a lot of different stuff on top of that.
03:13:24.000If you can, like, as I've matured and gotten better at managing my own brain, I've also become much more productive.
03:13:31.000Because I don't have as much bullshit to weigh me down, you know?
03:13:35.000And I think that if you're running through life making the same mistakes over and over again, whenever I'm doing that, that's when I'm the most unproductive.
03:13:51.000You're like someone who's like a cleanup crew for your own fucking destruction.
03:13:56.000You're always following your past around, past decisions around, cleaning up broken glass and old fucking bits of concrete from the last crater you put in your life.
03:14:25.000And you learn from the people that are around you.
03:14:27.000And it's hard to unlearn shit that's stupid.
03:14:30.000But I think as chaotic as this time is, it's the most promising because it's the most interesting in terms of the way ideas get assaulted and reworked and thought up and debated.
03:14:44.000And even though there's suppression of information, there's definitely suppression of free speech in certain platforms, there's still more exchange of thoughts In a tumultuous way where people just want it to end.
03:14:57.000They want one side to be right, the other side...
03:15:27.000And you could be, like, truly, it's like, you know what, the one thing that I don't think anyone's going to get mad at you for, on any side of the political spectrum, is if you stop hurting people.
03:15:39.000Like, truly, that is, like, that's it.