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00:01:21.000And just the fucking amount of courage that it takes to even train and become an elite wrestler and then become an MMA fighter all with no legs.
00:01:43.000In the stand-up game, you know, punches, like, if you're punching a guy that's down like that and literally is at the hips, like, you have to, like, bend your knees down and try to punch him, like, to train for that guy.
00:03:55.000Eddie Bravo used to always use that as an example about jujitsu, that you've got to train it to the point where it's automatic, like tying your shoes.
00:04:03.000Because when you tie your shoes, you're not thinking, okay, I make this loop, and I wrap it around that loop, and I go under, and I do that.
00:07:27.000And that's when I realized, like, oh no, like, the lessons you would have learned from that, you've already learned now in these six months.
00:07:35.000Like, you needed to watch that the next day or within a week or something to get there, right?
00:07:42.000It's funny in the beginning because you're working with open micers, too.
00:07:45.000So, like, I remember when I got my first gig, when I got a paid gig.
00:07:50.000I realized, oh, there's a giant difference between an audience that's there to see a comedy show versus an audience that goes to an open mic night.
00:09:41.000Dude, I've talked about this before, and I'm sorry if you've heard the story, but Martin Lawrence during the You So Crazy days in the 90s, I was just getting to LA, so I was like 94, just getting to LA. Little cute, fresh-faced Joe Rogan, and I was terrible.
00:16:01.000And it's like, I can't get things done that way.
00:16:04.000I realized early on when I started doing my podcast, I had to take it out of my house.
00:16:08.000I was like, I gotta take it out of here.
00:16:10.000Plus, my daughters were really young and I was bringing crazy people over and pot was coming out of the fucking door and into the hallway like, Mommy, what's that smell?
00:18:08.000The GT3, it was like the Porsche R. It only came in a manual.
00:18:12.000It was like this 500 horsepower, beautiful 911 that was like sedated looking because it looked almost like a right, it didn't have like a crazy wing like a GT3 RS. That's, yeah.
00:18:24.000The unconnected car, internet connected cars makes it a case for unplugging.
00:18:36.000It has more, oh, the new 911T has more electronic equipment than the old one, including electronically adjustable dampers, active engine transmission.
00:18:45.000Okay, that's just like electronics for the car itself, but the infotainment system is connected and able to receive over-the-air updates.
00:18:54.000And linked to a smartphone app, but you can still turn the data sharing and refuse to use the app.
00:19:00.000Even the UTA updates are limited to infotainment software, not vehicle controls.
00:19:06.000For modern high-end vehicles, this is as close as you're going to get to an off-the-grid in a brand new car.
00:20:26.000It's like, I was just talking to one of the guys out there about, he pulled out some Tom Ford glasses, you know, and it's like, It's like when you finally can start buying stuff like that and you realize, oh, these are way nicer than the shit I've been buying,
00:21:48.000Well, the thing is, the reason they're still on the old Lightning cable is because manufacturers have to pay them for that made-for-Apple shit.
00:21:59.000Right, because of the Lightning cable.
00:22:00.000They should have gone to USB-C. And they invented USB-C. That's crazy.
00:23:02.000Like, if you're on a budget and you just need a phone to text and send an email and shit, an Android phone will do whatever the fuck you need it to do and you can get one.
00:23:43.000About what goes into getting a cell phone.
00:23:47.000What really goes into getting a cell phone is slaves in the Congo and children in the Congo and people with babies on their backs, women who are working with a child on their back, breaking out cobalt with hammers and the toxic fumes.
00:28:17.000You know, everyone wants to talk about, like, you know, the benefits of being a guy, and there are benefits to being a guy, but one of the negative effects of being a guy that people don't talk about is guys that are unattractive and don't have any money.
00:28:36.000Unattractive guys with no money, they're in a very strange position in our society.
00:28:42.000Andrew Tate, as much as people hate him, talked about that.
00:28:46.000He's like, it's a very small percentage of guys that have all the money and all the women and all the fucking Ferraris and all that shit.
00:28:53.000He's like, to say that that's men, that's representative of men, is insane.
00:28:58.000Because it is such a small percentage.
00:29:01.000Now, if it's a guy like that who's got diamond-crusted watches and he's fucking flashing and he's blinging and he's taking pictures with all these girls, it's obnoxious.
00:31:40.000Well, there's people that want to put the masks back on for RSV and for the flu and for all these different things we never wore a mask for before.
00:31:48.000And then there's all this evidence that kids' immune system function is not working as good because they didn't get exposed to anything for all those times when they were isolated.
00:32:10.000Imagine if it was like psilocybin fungus that you could breathe in and there's like a whole town of people just tripping balls.
00:32:16.000That reminds me of like, I don't know if it was an Outer Limits episode or something, but it was like some shit was going around the world fucking people up and it was making their skin like copper almost.
00:32:29.000And then all the medical people were fighting on it and lockdowns and everything and at the end they realized that it was like a It was preparing everyone's skin because the sun was about to go turn into a white dwarf or whatever the fuck,
00:32:45.000or a red giant, and it was basically aliens saving us.
00:32:49.000They introduced a virus that changed our skin so we could withstand the extra radiation.
00:34:04.000Like, can you imagine, like, getting, like, John Jones's, you know, mother's genes and mixing them with, like, uh, uh, Francis and Ghanu and...
00:37:09.000I don't want to put words in his mouth, but to him, Elon is what's wrong with everything.
00:37:14.000But I'm one of those people where I try my best to be neutral with people like him because he's one of those people that's so polarizing that when people don't like you the way they don't like him, they...
00:37:29.000Anything negative about you, they just believe it or repeat it.
00:37:33.000For people like that, it's always good to try to engage them as calmly as possible and not even to pick a side.
00:37:39.000Just you kind of want to steel man their position, right?
00:37:43.000Like if someone is very, very emotional, you almost want to ask them, okay, tell me what you think and why you think this way.
00:37:51.000And then they tell you what they think, and then you could say, have you ever considered, or did you know that, this?
00:39:53.000He had Kanye on early when everybody was like, oh my god, Kanye's lost his fucking mind.
00:39:58.000Lex is like, let him come on long form and express himself.
00:40:02.000Yeah, and in a way that's like a death knell because it's like once you talk to him and you stay on that shit, there's no one that's going to treat you with more kindness and more objectivity.
00:44:01.000You know, if you're an open-miker and you're in a town and they watch you eat shit the first time you ever get on stage and you got notes and shit, they're always going to remember that.
00:45:37.000Wrestlers are some of the mentally strongest people in the world.
00:45:41.000Just to get through the practices and the drills and all the live rounds, the live wrestling, and then to go to meets and to make weight the day of the match and the shit that those guys go through, the way they cut weight, the mental strength that wrestlers have off the charts.
00:47:17.000And as soon as the ref blew the whistle, I've never seen a motherfucker move this fast.
00:47:22.000He dove at my ankle and tripped me and was on my back and we rolled out of bounds and the ref blew the whistle and he dove at my ankle and he did it like five times in a row, just lightning!
00:47:50.000If you get in there with someone who's really good at something and you're not, you just realize right away, you're like, oh no, I can't think as quick as you're moving.
00:48:02.000I don't know what you're doing before you're doing it, and then you're doing another thing because you anticipate my counter to that thing, and then you've chained another thing together, and now I'm on my back again.
00:53:15.000They've rolled so many times and they have such a deep understanding of what's possible with the human body, where the leverage points are.
00:53:34.000Why do you think Sambo is more popular?
00:53:36.000Well, that's interesting that you said that because Gordon Ryan just said that he thinks that combat Sambo is actually better for MMA than Jiu-jitsu is.
00:53:44.000Which, he's got some real good points.
00:53:48.000And the guys that are really good in combat sambo, like Khabib and Islam Makhchev, who's the UFC lightweight champion right now, he's a fucking animal and he's a combat sambo guy.
00:54:00.000There's a lot of those combat sambo guys where, you know, they're really good at controlling people from the top position.
00:54:07.000Which, you know, arguably when you add in punches and elbows and stuff like that, that's more important than anything.
00:54:14.000Because it feels like whatever the answer to Khabib is...
00:54:22.000The next generation is going to come up with doing that as natural, right?
00:54:27.000Well, they're going to encounter guys like that, and they're going to try to figure out counters to it.
00:54:32.000Or they're going to get better at what they're doing, that combat soundball style, and they'll get better at it and incorporate other things to it.
00:58:54.000No, there's just a website I know of that he knows of that it's like porn bloopers where all sorts of stuff that doesn't make it on to the normal videos.
00:59:10.000Remember growing up how the comedy TV shows were like Family Matters, Full House, these shows you were watching, how every now and then they would do a serious episode that would tell you to stay off drugs or some shit.
00:59:50.000If you think about like, if you looked at each individual clip that's available online as a one individual piece of work, Is there more porn than any other kind of content?
01:02:50.000There's also the line that we dug, or maybe someone else did, like the Bad Baby, the girl from Dr. Phil's show, she barely is showing anything, and she makes almost the most money of anyone.
01:04:53.000Porn, its existence is harmful to women.
01:04:58.000Or that all the women in it are being exploited.
01:05:00.000And to some degree that's true, but most of that is because, like you said, if prostitution was legal, it would cut back on all the exploitation.
01:05:07.000The thing is you can't make it illegal because you can't take away a person's right to do whatever they want to do, like those couples.
01:05:14.000Those couples that cut their heads off.
01:05:16.000They frame their heads out so you don't see them.
01:06:53.000IRS Special Agent Frank Wilson and the T-men followed the money, gathering evidence that Capone had made millions of dollars on income that was never taxed.
01:07:02.000Yeah, so that's why the smart ones, like the Russians, they open businesses.
01:08:15.000Mitzi was originally renting out just the OR. Well Mitzi took over long after Ciro's was gone and then another thing came after Ciro's and then Mitzi took it over after the other thing.
01:08:34.000It says it was owned by an entrepreneur, William Wilkerson, but then it says only to have control of the resort rested, maybe wrestled is what I was supposed to say, from him by mobster Bugsy Siegel.
01:12:23.000Because when I was in the service, we had to be like, we had to say over the radio, we had to say numbers a certain way, like five was fife.
01:12:32.000Like you had to say it like that so that it got through.
01:12:40.000It might have also come from the theater where you had to talk really loud because there was people in the back of the room where there was no microphone.
01:12:46.000So your earliest performances, like live performances, were theaters probably.
01:12:51.000Or when someone was speaking in front of a large group of people.
01:12:54.000And when you're speaking in front of a large group of people, you have to talk like this so they can hear you.
01:14:46.000Distinctive Australian accent is the result of a drunken slur caused by the heavy drinking of the early settlers, according to a communications expert from the country.
01:15:47.000And then think, you can go from Vermont to Boston to New York to Philly to D.C. to Georgia to Alabama to Florida, and it's all different accents.
01:16:58.000I remember her, so she's on SNL now, but I remember when she first got her big TV thing, and I remember watching her on TV... While she was working the bar underneath.
01:22:25.000Do you know that Jordan Peterson has this whole saying about becoming hyper-competitive, you know, that people think that you should be docile.
01:22:34.000And he's like, no, you should be a monster and then learn how to control it.
01:23:26.000Yeah, it was like, I don't know, because I had such a chaotic upbringing, and it's like, especially men.
01:23:31.000When I meet men that are, like, unpredictable, I'm like, I can't fuck with you.
01:23:34.000You might be the best guy, you might be a nice guy, but, like, I need distance from you, because there's no telling what you're going to do.
01:24:13.000That's why when you see very famous people going after other famous people or going after someone who's not famous, it's always very distasteful.
01:24:22.000Because this person is in this unusual position of strength and they don't use it the right way.
01:24:28.000There's like a different obligation you have if you're in an unusual position of strength than a person who's just weak.
01:24:35.000See, my first instinct is to always be suspicious of those people.
01:26:16.000But if you're telling people, these people that you know, you're dropping names to try to elevate you socially, it has the opposite effect.
01:28:12.000Now, from that point forward, if you continue to go, yeah, but now you're just an idiot that's hiding behind the rules because you know that even though what you're doing doesn't make any sense...
01:28:24.000You're protected because you followed the rules.
01:28:27.000Well, it is also a thing when people have power over you, they don't want to relinquish it.
01:28:31.000Even if they just have a little bit of power to keep you from going through somewhere.
01:28:34.000They've already committed to this idea.
01:28:36.000They're going to stop you from doing something.
01:28:38.000You know the Stanford prison experiment?
01:29:24.000People have been in control of people for so long, whether it's a dictator that controls the population or a general that controls the army or a plantation owner that controls the slaves.
01:29:35.000There's always been people controlling people forever.
01:31:23.000And he was in Eddie's guard, and Eddie just slapped that triangle on him, and then started pulling the head, and then Hoyler tapped, and it was insane.
01:33:50.000It was one of the craziest things I've ever seen in my life.
01:33:54.000Because for him to go there, he was such an underdog.
01:33:57.000And he had this very strange style of jujitsu that really he formulated.
01:34:02.000He came up with, it's not like he invented submissions, but he came up with new ways to set things up that were completely unique to him and his system.
01:34:11.000And that's how he created 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu.
01:34:13.000It's a very well thought out, really effective system, especially if you have leg dexterity.
01:35:24.000I think he was going to call it like Sumerian Jiu-Jitsu or something like that.
01:35:28.000I forget because the joke was like back then Eddie and I would smoke a lot of weed and we would watch documentaries.
01:35:35.000And we would watch the big one was we were really into Zachariah Sitchin.
01:35:40.000Zachariah Sitchin, he was a linguist and a biblical scholar, and he had this belief that if you decoded the Sumerian text, he's like, the Sumerian text in his interpretation...
01:35:57.000Described a planet that came in an elliptical orbit every 3,600 years close to Earth, and that this planet was called Nibiru, and that these creatures on this planet are called the Anunnaki.
01:36:11.000And that human beings were the product of accelerated evolution.
01:36:14.000So the Anunnaki came down here when we were basically lower primates in the jungle and they experimented with our DNA and turned us into what we are now.
01:36:25.000And there's all these depictions of these gigantic beings and one of them has it on his lap.
01:36:34.000It's like a human but with a monkey's tail.
01:36:39.000And he believes that that is like pointing to this link and that there's a detailed map of the solar system, which how the fuck did they know that, right?
01:38:38.000Yeah, but the problem with that is, like, biologically, we know that what happens to people when they're in zero gravity is their bodies deteriorate, like, very rapidly.
01:38:47.000Your bone density deteriorates very rapidly.
01:38:49.000Like, those guys that go up there for, like, six months, when they come down here, they're fucked up, man.
01:42:13.000The one thing that bothers me about when they do asteroids in movies, asteroid fields, they make it seem like there's no way you would come close to an asteroid and just be surrounded by a whole bunch of other ones.
01:45:05.000We don't know what kind of life that would be, like a life that could breathe a completely different environment, a different kind of air than we breathe with different levels of gases.
01:45:48.000Because mathematically, they definitely...
01:45:51.000Exist at least it seems like Highly likely that some life is out there right highly likely but but if I Feel like a species that was sufficiently advanced to be curious about us in study We wouldn't be able to tell that they were here.
01:46:04.000That's true, too Because unless they wanted us to know they were here or unless they are not quite as advanced like if there is an infinite like universe that we're dealing with and there's Planets where life forms could have developed in a much more stable environment where they don't get hit by asteroids,
01:46:22.000and they get to not just like where we are, which is like a million years of evolution from the lower primates, but like 300 million years.
01:47:00.000Yeah, because I remember when he first started telling me about his theory, it was almost like he expected me to be like, shut your stupid ass.
01:47:08.000Like, he expected me to react completely negatively.
01:47:10.000And he was shocked that I was, like, listening.
01:47:21.000Yeah, he thinks that there may have already been a more developed human species that got wiped out, and they could have sent someone to another place.
01:47:30.000It's totally possible that anyone who can build the pyramids could build anything.
01:47:45.000But you have to realize there's 2 million, I think it's 2,300,000 stones in the Great Pyramid of Egypt.
01:47:52.000And some of them are cut from a quarry that's hundreds of miles away.
01:47:55.000And these are massive, massive stones that were cut with such precision that in many cases when you're inside the pyramids before, like on the outside everything's fucked up because it used to be covered in limestone.
01:48:06.000But people looted it and they broke off the limestone, they built cities with it and shit.
01:48:17.000So that's all rough and fucked up on the outside, but it didn't used to be like that.
01:48:22.000It used to be flat and smooth to the point where it was probably polished and reflective.
01:48:27.000Like they don't know exactly what it looked like, but they know that the precision inside, in some of the areas like where you look at the stones, you can't even get a razor blade in between those rocks.
01:48:38.000And the amount of calculations that are involved, the amount of precision that has to be involved, and to take this design where you're stacking stones, you can't have any errors.
01:48:47.000When you get to the top, you have so many stones.
01:48:51.000A millimeter here, a millimeter there.
01:48:53.000You get to the top, you're all fucked up.
01:48:54.000Do you think that Neil's skepticism comes from...
01:49:00.000Because the other side of it is the speed of light.
01:49:07.000Because that's the big, huge barrier, right?
01:49:09.000For us to be visited by an alien species, they would have had to have figured out a way...
01:50:29.000A million insane geniuses that create transcendent technology that we enjoy today.
01:50:36.000I mean, he was trying to broadcast electricity through the air and wanted to give it to people for free.
01:50:41.000But think about how, you know, there's an old, I think, Voltaire quote where he says, something to the effect of, like, I'm less impressed with Einstein's brain than the near certainty that, you know, people just as intelligent are dying in sweatshops and slave fields and shit.
01:50:59.000It's like, imagine if, because all the geniuses we got...
01:51:40.000Like if you read Malcolm Gladwell's The Outliers.
01:51:44.000One of the things that he'll talk about with certain incredible success stories is the access that they had to all these different things that could help them.
01:51:52.000Like Bill Gates, he had access to the computers at the university when he was a kid and learned how to code very early on.
01:53:26.000It's fucked up that him and Elon got beef because they really the only two...
01:53:32.000Obviously, you can complain to your therapist or you can call, but somebody that really gets it, who the fuck else gets what it's like to be a trillionaire?
01:57:26.000Well, they're definitely still attacking Elon, right?
01:57:29.000But what he says is that a house is an attack vector, meaning that's something that people point to.
01:57:35.000If I had Elon money and somebody attacked me on Twitter, I would show up at their house and give them $100,000 and be like, go back on Twitter and say something nice.
01:57:43.000Well, you'd be doing that all day long for the rest of your life.
01:59:25.000...countered off the guy who runs the account asked for 50k saying he'd use the money for college and to possibly buy a Tesla Model 3. And that was, I guess, their last public exchange, maybe.
02:00:48.000Do you think you're allowed to film someone and put them, every time they're out in public, put it on a website and tell everybody where they are?
02:01:18.000If you decided to do that and decided to say, like, are you doing it because you think, like, you want to shame me for flying a private jet?
02:01:24.000Because that's the thing that a lot of people do.
02:01:26.000Like, Taylor Swift and all these people that talk about climate change.
02:01:29.000Like, look what you're doing, Leonardo DiCaprio.
02:07:58.000Police officers have been charged with multiple felony and misdemeanor counts stemming from an incident in which they allegedly placed a handcuffed female suspect in a patrol car that was then hit by a train.
02:09:14.000Wikipedia says, a criminal offense generally defined as displaying a weapon with the intent of placing another person in fear or imminent physical injury or death.
02:11:53.000It says multiple law enforcement agencies responded to a report of road rage incident involving a firearm in Fort Lupton on Friday evening.
02:12:01.000A Platteville police officer stopped Rios Gonzalez's car just past a set of railroad tracks and parked the patrol vehicle on the crossing.
02:12:09.000She was placed in the back of the police vehicle, which was hit by the train as officers were searching her car.
02:17:02.000These kids died on this train track in Meena, Arkansas.
02:17:06.000And the police reported that the police report stated that they were intoxicated and they fell asleep on the train track and that's how they died.
02:17:16.000Then the parents did an autopsy and they found stab wounds on the kids.
02:17:22.000And so they knew that the kids had been murdered and placed there.
02:17:25.000So an investigation started and then during the investigation they realized that that was where Barry Seal would do his drug drops.
02:17:32.000So he would fly into these airports and instead of flying in with giant bags of cocaine And then getting arrested when he landed, he would throw them out the back of a fucking plane with parachutes.
02:19:51.000It says, for example, Spinelli said, one of the big conspiracy theories around Barry is that he was George H.W. Bush's personal pilot, and when Barry was killed, he had Bush's phone number in his back pocket.
02:20:01.000Neither filmmaker felt it was appropriate to include that unsubstantiated theory, but they also knew that astute audience members might already be familiar with it.
02:20:11.000That's a good way of saying it might have happened.
02:20:13.000So then why did they include the Clinton thing?
02:20:15.000Because the Clinton thing definitely did happen.
02:20:18.000And the thing about it is, what was going on?
02:20:25.000And if you really thought about it, you'd go, okay, if you were some big-time government agency and you knew there is no fucking way we're stopping all this coke from coming over here.
02:21:49.000Tip-top urgent shit, and they tell him all the other shit on the bottom, but there's that little middle little 10-15% that he has no idea.
02:21:57.000In the 1980s, I'm just throwing this out there.
02:22:00.000Don't you think that in the 1980s they could keep a guy like Ronald Reagan from finding out that they're dealing drugs while his wife is doing the Just Say No campaign?
02:22:10.000Because that's during the same time period, man.
02:22:13.000During the Just Say No campaign, Ronald Reagan...
02:22:16.000Was responsible, because he was the president, whether or not he knew about it.
02:22:20.000During his administration, they were selling drugs in South Central LA. Oh, yeah.
02:22:26.000You've seen that video where Michael Rupert calls out, like, there's an assemblywoman, and there's the DEA guys on stage, and he says, I personally witnessed the CIA selling drugs.
02:22:38.000Yeah, they were definitely putting drugs.
02:22:40.000They were selling drugs, and they were doing it all through Freeway Ricky Ross.
02:28:33.000It rarely produces a high and has not been reported to be addictive.
02:28:38.000However, injected as a liquid, it sends a jolt that addicts very much, addicts very much, rather, says Nora Volkov, MD, psychiatrist and imaging expert at Brookhaven National Laboratory.
02:31:34.000That's a 100% natural way to live as a kid.
02:31:37.000They make you sit down in a fucking room and listen to some boring shit and maybe you're behind in classes so you can't even follow what the fuck they're talking about because you're not up to that level of whatever it is.
02:32:12.000If you fail Einstein, I mean, you gotta think that maybe the way you're teaching is kind of fucked.
02:32:18.000Yeah, because I forget who the fuck it was.
02:32:20.000I think the guy's name was Tom Hartman, but he was like a political guy that I used to listen to a long time ago, but he was talking about how there was a...
02:32:27.000When he was coming up, there was a school in Boston...
02:32:31.000Where they would send these kids, I don't think they called it ADD back then, but the theory was that it was actually an evolutionary benefit because the person that was, it's not that you can't pay attention, it's that your attention is split.
02:32:46.000So the guy that was hyper-aware would help the tribe survive or whatever.
02:32:51.000There's that, but it's also they're bored.
02:33:10.000Being a smart kid is kind of a curse in the wrong environment.
02:33:15.000Because you know the teachers that always got the best out of me was the ones that were fucking hyped about the subject they were teaching.
02:33:33.000You are way better off being a smart guy who feels out of place in a stupid neighborhood than you are a stupid guy in a smart neighborhood.
02:34:53.000I don't think there's any other way that we acquire it.
02:34:56.000It feels like a curse when it's happening, you know, when, like, you know, your fucking life sucks and nothing goes your way and you keep failing, you keep falling flat on your ass, but that terrible feeling of you not...
02:35:11.000Meeting your goals and achieving things and getting something going on in your life, those terrible feelings create a more resilient, more focused person.
02:35:40.000Yeah, that's why you know when Mitzi would talk about the the comedy store She would call it the island of misfit toys.
02:35:47.000That's what you call Yeah, it really is the island of misfit toys because people come people think people try to Have concert make it controversial like some of the shit we say on stage But if you heard the shit we said to each other It's a whole other level.
02:36:07.000Because that's the only way we can make each other laugh.
02:36:33.000But I'm telling you, those of y'all listening out there, there's nothing better.
02:36:39.000Than, you know, five or six comics that know each other and trust each other with no recording devices around and we're high and we're just mind.
02:36:52.000To me, it's almost like the equivalent of a rap cypher.
02:36:58.000It's something we automatically fall into to keep each other sharp.
02:37:12.000Because if you try to have a conversation with a knucklehead, it's not fun.
02:37:16.000That's why the pandemic fucked a lot of comics up, like the lockdowns, because a lot of people don't realize, you being exposed to such a high level of thought experiments and just mental stimulation Every night,
02:37:34.000you're near some of the most abstract thinkers, and they're giving you ideas in different angles, and you're spoiled by that.
02:37:43.000And then all of a sudden, it's nothing.
02:41:10.000Because you've got to think, there's certain people that had a level of anxiety that was already very high, and then the pandemic comes, and everyone they see might kill them by breathing on them.
02:41:19.000And you see people, and whether or not masks work or not, you see people with no masks, you're fucking furious.
02:41:24.000That could be the one that fucking kills me.
02:41:25.000I remember when it first started, and I Yeah.
02:41:36.000Like, what if that was the one that's gonna, you know, it was like, it was rough for a few months.
02:41:41.000It was also rough because no one really knew what the effects were yet.
02:41:45.000You know that shit they have in Korea?
02:43:08.000Because people will be, you know, now that this, if this is like the Spanish flu or something like that, it killed millions and millions and millions of people.
02:43:16.000I think people will, I think there would still eventually be a point where people were like, Fuck it.
02:43:25.000But if it's something that's fatal to like a large percentage of the people that catch it, not a small percentage like COVID. I mean, think about what ultimately COVID was like, what percentage of the people that got COVID died?
02:43:39.000Jamie, what percentage of the people that got COVID died?
02:44:44.000When you look at, like, people in their 80s, and, like, if you look at the number of people that died from COVID, a large number of them were older.
02:46:25.000She said, vaccinated people who never had COVID... We're at least three times as likely to be infected as unvaccinated people with prior infection.
02:46:38.000So they're finally talking about that, which is really bananas.
02:46:52.000Those who are vaccinated but never had COVID were four times as likely to have a severe illness resulting in hospitalization or death compared to the unvaccinated who recovered from it.
02:47:05.000Protection from natural immunity also wanes at a slower rate than from vaccination.
02:47:16.000Sorry, I didn't put my reading glasses on there.
02:47:46.000I never tested positive when it was something important.
02:47:49.000When the first time I did this podcast, I was like, please don't fucking test.
02:47:53.000And then when I got my Netflix thing, I didn't test positive.
02:47:59.000And I had some other important thing where it was like...
02:48:03.000Matter of fact, when they did the festival, They had us all test.
02:48:07.000I filmed something at the end of the festival, but for almost two weeks before that, we were just doing shows around LA. And then right when you're going to do the most important thing at the end, you got to test.
02:48:52.000They have to abide by those rules, especially when we didn't have any way to treat it or we didn't know what was the right way to treat it.
02:49:00.000There was a lot of that in the beginning, right?
02:49:01.000Like they thought respirators were the way to go.
03:01:08.000He trained B.J. Penn for some of the greatest fights that B.J. ever had because B.J. had like an endless gas tank.
03:01:14.000So he trained him in strength and conditioning and he had this idea that strength and conditioning was the most important thing and that you're fighting, you already know how to fight.
03:01:37.000And so they put him on these wild plyometric exercises.
03:01:39.000They broke that dude for like six weeks.
03:01:42.000But when he fought, like when he fought Sean Shirk and when he fought Diego Sanchez, that version of BJ Penn, that version, I put that version up against anybody alive or dead.
03:03:03.000He was like the same size as he was when he's fighting people at 155 pounds and George St. Pierre is a powerhouse.
03:03:09.000He's a very physically imposing fighter and his top game was fucking ruthless, man.
03:03:15.000He would get guys down and beat the shit out of them, man.
03:03:17.000George St. Pierre was a bad man in his prime.
03:03:20.000He was a bad man and he was much bigger and he was very angry at BJ. BJ was talking all this shit and B.J. was saying that they're going to fight to the death.
03:03:30.000He said that, like, to the death, and I'm serious.
03:10:41.000You get your legs up there, and you get his arm in like a triangle, but instead of cinching it down, the way he tapped Hoyler in Brazil, instead of cinching it down, you clasp your hands together, and when they do that, is he going to get it here?
03:10:56.000So when you do that, you have a pinch.
03:11:00.000See the S-grip, and he's pinching his legs together?
03:12:11.000That was the only thing that makes sense.
03:12:12.000I have seen people do scissor chokes without an arm in, where guys' legs squeezed are so good if they get a hold of your neck, particularly if they get you in a crucifix position, you can't defend right.
03:12:25.000They clamp down on your neck just with their legs just squeezing like a scissors position.
03:12:31.000Bro, in those situations, man, a lot of times, your life really is in those referees' hands.
03:14:10.000I mean, 100% it's technique, but there's physical strength in this.
03:14:14.000Also, when you get your arm around someone's neck, and then you get this behind the neck like this, there's all this struggling to get this hand down in there.
03:15:35.000It's like you're better off rationing your sweat than water.
03:15:41.000Because if you don't hydrate, real quick you're gonna get stupid.
03:15:45.000Yeah, and you gotta drink your own piss.
03:15:47.000Yeah, but it's way better for you to hydrate fully as long as you can than it is for you to be 10% hydrated for a long, drawn-out amount of time.
03:22:07.000And he's riding this with his balance on this ever-changing landscape of water.
03:22:13.000He's floating with a fucking billion pounds of water overhead, ready to collapse on him at any moment and hopefully not knock him unconscious.
03:22:24.000Because when that water hits you like that, a lot of people just go out, man.
03:22:28.000Yeah, these people, they just build different.
03:24:16.000It's like when you know those dudes are like walking on the top of skyscrapers like balancing with GoPros and you're like Jesus fucking Christ your hands get sweaty.
03:27:41.000Well, Patrick Swayze was like a dancer, so he wasn't necessarily like a martial arts expert, but he really knows how to move his body well.
03:30:48.000Like when you see him move around, this is almost, because the other one was like all knockout punches and shit, whereas most boxing matches, they're matches.
03:30:57.000Like a lot of shit goes on before a knockout punch.
03:30:59.000It's not like, unless you're Mike Tyson, you're not just smashing everybody right away.
03:31:04.000So they're showing these clips, quick clips, but in that movie, see if you can show...
03:34:59.000Everybody did cuz for a while it was true.
03:35:00.000And you know you know what also blew my mind is I it was the first time to Because there were people that hated him there were people that just just because he won so much there were people that were like fuck that guy of course Oh, yeah, they were like all like a lot of the old men in our neighborhood.
03:35:15.000They like I can't wait for somebody to teach you there's a lesson, you know There was only 20 right, but they just hated it was like cuz he represented He represented the new guard.
03:39:54.000He was the guy that was a rival for Roy Jones Jr. So as Roy Jones Jr. was a champ, and he was a champ, and he fought Nigel Benn.
03:40:02.000And he almost put Nigel Benn out in the first round.
03:40:05.000But they collided heads at one point in the fight, and Nigel Benn hit him with some real good punches, and he went down and took a knee, and then he went back to his corner, and he quit.
03:40:17.000And they couldn't believe that he took a 10 count, and everyone was like, I can't believe he's taking a 10 count.
03:40:22.000And he went back to his corner, and he was so fucked up.
03:44:36.000Antonio Tarver was a murderous puncher and a motherfucker of a boxer Antonio Tarver could box and he said in the ring to Roy because they had had one fight previously where it went to a decision and you know and Roy had some excuses I guess and so he says in the ring for the second fight you got any excuses tonight Roy?
03:45:34.000Glenn Johnson, Roy Jones Jr. That was a scary one, because this was after the Tarver one, but the Tarver one He was conscious, but he was fucked up.
03:45:45.000I mean, Tarver cracked him, and he went down, but he was out, right?
03:47:22.000Somehow or another, they set him up with Tommy Morrison, who was a very good boxer and had beaten some good guys, but he was just coming off of this movie.
03:47:30.000So he was in the Rocky movies, and he's fighting a guy that's just been doing nothing but boxing.
03:47:36.000Now, Tommy Morrison's a movie star now, and he's a young guy.
03:51:03.000Because the people have stopped when they thought a guy was out, and then the guy was okay and winds up winning a fight, which is the craziest thing to say.
03:51:10.000But I've seen it on these local circuits.
03:58:15.000But everybody's got to remember that because you think about like he was a junior college level champion, you know, he's an elite wrestler, but that's just because he went to junior college.
03:58:24.000Like if Jon Jones was in another school, like a Division I school, he would have been a champion there too.
03:58:29.000Jon Jones was a motherfucker of a wrestler.
03:58:31.000And the way he takes guys down in the UFC and the way he would like manhandle guys, he's got immense physical strength.
04:01:38.000It's just like when you meet Jim Carrey or somebody like that, or Keanu Reeves, and you hear about how nice and how sweet they are.
04:01:48.000I think they've just come to peace with, as much as that business can fuck you up, they've Because the reason Hollywood fucks you up is because they start making you care about things that...
04:02:01.000Aren't real or don't really matter, and you lose sight of what really matters.
04:02:05.000But the people that hold on to what matters, like it's oxygen, they're the ones that come out the other side pretty okay.
04:03:44.000People do stupid shit, and they lose their fucking head, and they do things in a way that they think is justified, whether it's because they're famous, Or because it's deserved or the relationship they have with their significant other that leads them to believe that they have to defend that woman or she's going to be upset at them later and they would rather just go on stage and smack Chris Rock in front of everybody.
04:04:05.000But you can tell that he had lost his mind because he was saying, keep my wife's name out your fucking mouth.
04:04:12.000And he was saying it and the whole place was silent.
04:04:15.000And he had to realize that the whole place was silent.
04:04:17.000And he had to realize why those words were coming out of his mouth.
04:04:20.000This was on television, in the Academy Awards, and he was scheduled to win an Oscar.
04:04:27.000And he's like, am I still winning this fucking Oscar?
04:04:34.000And then to have it go from that to not knowing how the world's perceiving it, to then you go on stage, and you cry, and you apologize, and they give you an Oscar, and everyone gives you a standing ovation.
04:05:58.000Maybe Chris is like, that was like his sign that, you know, all that, to be smacked in the face and then they give that same guy a standing ovation.
04:06:08.000Like, these are the people I'm working with?
04:06:22.000Because like I said, Patrice called it the golden handcuffs.
04:06:26.000It's like, The deeper you get in Hollywood, it's like the more they give you, the more they give you, the more they give you, but all that shit come with at any time we can yank it away.
04:06:34.000And it's like as soon as you stop giving a fuck about all that, like take it motherfucker.
04:06:39.000Like if you have that, I think it opens up something for you.
04:06:43.000Also at the same time he starts going on tour with Dave Chappelle.
04:08:15.000All you have to do is, like I was telling you about that Sober October thing, like, you know, the committing to 500 calories or committing to writing for two hours.
04:11:12.000No, when I'm sick, I give my body a chance to recover.
04:11:15.000Because you know what I hear in my head when I... Whenever I was taking care of myself and I would be sick, I would hear that dude, fuck, I forget his fucking name, but you know who I'm talking about.
04:11:27.000He had a heart thing, but at first he had the record.
04:13:47.000I think GSP is the, and again, this is me being a slightly above filthy casual, but I think GSP is the only person where you could really make an argument.
04:14:06.000Jon Jones is also undefeated, I should say.
04:14:09.000Jon Jones has one loss on his career, and it's a bullshit loss, where he destroyed the dude, but he was hitting him with downward elbows, which is the dumbest fucking rule in the game.
04:14:18.000The absolute dumbest rule in the game.
04:14:20.000You can hit a guy with any kind of elbow except for a downward elbow.
04:14:34.000The reason why it was made illegal is so stupid.
04:14:37.000It has to do with people being ignorant way back in the early days of MMA. They thought you'd break bricks with it on TV so you can't have that in the octagon.
04:16:25.000Where, like, he had to go downstairs backwards While he was training for a fight, his knees were in so much pain that he'd go downstairs backwards.
04:16:34.000And then when he would walk on like sidewalks and there's grass next to it, he'd walk on the grass because it didn't hurt his knees.
04:16:41.000That's the kind of mental strength he has to be able to fight.
04:16:43.000He's just willfully destroying his knees.
04:16:46.000And if you look at his body, his legs, like the size and the musculature of his legs is not Comparable to the musculature of his upper body and I've always wondered if that's related because if you look at his upper body He's fucking shredded and jacked,
04:17:02.000but he has fairly small legs for a guy that big but like severe knee problems You know it makes I think about it all the time, but man fighters are the most Used up and thrown away people for what they give up for the chance to be great But if you can do it,
04:19:15.000He's an undefeated young boxer and it was supposed to be, you know, a fight where he was gonna show the world because Mark Hunt is this famous UFC fighter, K1 champion.