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00:02:26.000I went for a period of time where I took motorcycle classes and I was ready to ride a bike, but then a dude that I worked with on Fear Factor crashed and fucked up his shoulder.
00:02:37.000And then Frank Mir, who worked for the UFC, he got hit by a car and broke his leg and took him out of action.
00:03:17.000And a bunch of the guys that I worked with on Fear Factor, we all went to the classes together.
00:03:21.000And then, you know, a couple guys that worked in production, and one of the guys was a stunt guy, and we all were like, hey, let's get bikes.
00:03:44.000I've thought about it, man, over the years, but I'm sketched out about other people.
00:03:48.000One of my closest childhood friends, him and his wife, both rode professionally like he would do motocross and all that shit and trick shows internationally.
00:03:57.000That's where he met his wife overseas.
00:03:59.000And they both gave it up because she...
00:04:01.000I don't know if she was with him or saw it happen, one of her good friends die on a bike, and she was like, that's it.
00:07:42.000Back when I used to do the radio in Denver, and they had this fucking guy who was a jetpack guy, and this guy had been using these experimental jetpacks, and he had no knees.
00:10:38.000See if you can find those competitions, Jamie.
00:10:41.000Because I was watching them on Instagram the other day, where these guys were flying through doorways, and they had made a doorway, and it's like they have an obstacle course.
00:11:12.000I also saw someone doing a fishing sim, where he had a real-life fishing pole hooked up to a device that was tracking like a tuna he was pulling.
00:11:20.000But they have these also where you can just practice this with a real handset, and you're flying it like it would be, but it's all fake, it's all on a computer.
00:11:28.000The first question, I'd be like, so when I crash this, what does it cost?
00:11:32.000Because I'm crashing that fucking thing immediately.
00:12:41.000I don't know if you've ever seen pros in person, but it's...
00:12:45.000The way that you're, even this gap of you being like, I don't ever golf, and then you're like, wow, dude, you're good at that.
00:12:50.000When I watch those guys, it's the same feeling when you go to professional sports, and you're like, that's un-fucking-real how good they are.
00:13:04.000Whereas I can kind of appreciate it, but I don't know what's going on.
00:13:07.000It's sort of like with the UFC. Right.
00:13:09.000When dudes scramble on the ground and someone's like an elite jiu-jitsu black belt, the people that are practicing jiu-jitsu are like, holy shit, look at that guy.
00:14:18.000He's so good, and his cue ball position is so perfect.
00:14:23.000When he's moving the ball around, it's so effortless and smooth, and that ball just slides right where it's supposed to go, and then it knocks that ball in, the ball slides right where it's supposed to go, and it's all the same speed.
00:14:36.000It's just this smooth, effortless stroke.
00:18:13.000So it's like, there's a Japanese term for that when you practice this one thing over and over and over again in an attempt to achieve enlightenment.
00:20:04.000So if you and I were on Team USA, you would hit the four ball and give position for me to play the five ball and then I'd give you the six ball.
00:22:12.000They just posted a clip of a dart championship, you know, and when they lose it in the background, and it was like, they call it like a nines, two guys have nines, or something like only nine darts.
00:26:09.000No, there's a thing called the Fargo scoring.
00:26:12.000Fargo scoring, it calculates how often you miss, bad position play, it calculates scratching on the break, all these different things, and you get like a number.
00:26:52.000We watched this match with that kid Fedor, where he ran out seven racks in a row to win this set on this guy in this high-pressure tournament.
00:27:38.000I know you're doing this and the fingers move.
00:27:41.000I don't know what's happening other than that.
00:27:43.000I just love that, that I can just watch it.
00:27:45.000I like it if I know I don't have that much interest in it because then I don't get jealous and I don't go, I want to pick one up so fucking bad.
00:29:09.000And when he gives you, like, you learn so much.
00:29:12.000You learn what you're doing wrong, you learn why he's doing it this way, you learn, like, position play, what's the right way to move a ball to another ball.
00:29:21.000But in golf, everyone's stroke can be different.
00:29:26.000So is there a single perfect stroke that everyone's trying to emulate?
00:32:05.000You could have variations and deviations of that, but there's certain things like with Taekwondo, when I was teaching, it was very hard to teach someone who had already taken bad classes.
00:32:14.000So if someone had went to like a karate school and they were kicking with their knee down and they had no power, it was all in the legs and not in the hips, And you would try to, like, teach these people, under pressure, they would always revert back to their earlier form.
00:33:13.000It's got to be the same with everything.
00:33:14.000Well, yeah, well, it's, you know, like, if somebody had lessons before, the trick is, what he knows, is, like, sometimes they have to untangle, like a fucking phone wire, what someone else has done to you.
00:33:26.000Because you can keep changing as you get older, your body will change, you know, like Tiger goes through it, his back, so he changed the way he swings, like, that's the same thing, and your techniques have to change with time and your body and your limits, you know what I mean?
00:33:51.000Everyone can stop like this with their back to the mountain.
00:33:54.000But face to the mountain is always so scary at first because you feel like you're going to...
00:33:57.000Catch an edge and hit your fucking head, which you do when you're starting.
00:34:00.000But once you learn your version of how to shift your weight, it's like, it's riding a bike, cliche, but you immediately go, I know exactly how my body does that.
00:34:11.000You feel the moment you learn it, you go, Oh.
00:34:14.000Do you remember those hoverboards we had at the old studio?
00:35:11.000I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I think it's real similar.
00:35:14.000I fell on my side on the tailbone, technically, so it would have been something in my hip.
00:35:18.000No, you can break your hip bone, your tailbone, by falling on your hip.
00:35:22.000If you hit, look, any time you're putting that kind of pressure on your hip, when you're falling and all your weight is going down to concrete, which is what it was, we have polished concrete floors, it's immovable, and you're hitting bone, and all kinds of stuff goes crack!
00:35:39.000Stuff up here goes crack, there goes crack.
00:35:43.000When I fell skiing the last time I skied, I fucking cracked- I got what's called an insufficiency fracture, where it fractured at the top where my shin meets my cartilage.
00:42:47.000It's almost like a difference to those dart guys.
00:42:49.000It's just, if you throw a fastball baseball pitcher up there to just throw against them, but they're throwing those little darts at the thing, and the other guys just don't fast as fuck.
00:44:28.000And when you hear it in that amazing arena where they have the Cirque du Soleil and the sound is incredible and the visuals are incredible.
00:46:33.000And you see, once he finds it, everything else kind of like, it's almost like when you're tripping and you see one thing and then it exposes all this other stuff and you're like, I see all of it now.
00:46:44.000That's exactly what that looked like to me, that he found Get Back and it was like, get back to where you once belong.
00:52:28.000Yeah, and that sound was so, so, like, memorable, and so he didn't clear it, and then, you know, and Premiere was like, whatever I can do to help, you know, moving forward, and there's this other guy, RJ D2, who I loved, and ironically enough, I had wanted a song from him,
00:57:35.000When my daughters were really young, they were like four and six, my wife was out of town and I said, do you guys want to watch a scary movie?
01:00:28.000That's what's like, people that do, like Rick Baker, those guys that did special effects for American Werewolf in London, they say that you can't replace the physical special effects where an actual object is attacking an actual person.
01:03:11.000And whatever was in there is somewhere better, and I felt immediately like this weird, like someone was telling me like, this is just the shell, man.
01:03:21.000The thing you like, it's in a really great place.
01:04:44.000The priest might have molested 200 deaf boys.
01:04:46.000Top Vatican officials, including future Pope Benedict XVI, did not defrock a priest who molested as many as 200 deaf boys, even though several American bishops repeatedly warned them that failure to act on the matter could embarrass the church,
01:13:22.000This woman in San Francisco had started, you know, like a sexual revolution club, a freedom for women to be the powerful versions of themselves.
01:15:17.000He translated it into German, I think.
01:15:20.000I forget what language it was, but he translated the Bible so that regular people who could read could read it, because they didn't know Latin.
01:15:27.000And then he basically said you should interpret the Bible any way you see fit.
01:15:32.000The Bible's there for you to interpret it, which was a fucking horrific affront to the Catholic Church.
01:19:00.000I'm trying to remember what year it is because now I'm thinking it's like 89. Maybe even 90. So there was a plane crash and it was Trump's airplane.
01:19:11.000It was like Trump Airlines and it crashed in Boston and like the front wheels didn't come down.
01:19:17.000So they had to like skid into the runway with sparks and shit.
01:19:22.000So I see them all eating and they invite me over to their table.
01:21:54.000And that's when kids, like, when teenagers are having sex with each other, they're at their most fertile and they're at their least control.
01:22:43.000It's not like people are going to stop humping.
01:22:46.000Yeah, I mean, chemically, I don't know what would change...
01:22:49.000You would have to almost delay puberty, but then when you would fuck up people's development, like, what could you do?
01:22:55.000Because there's a, you know, there's a window when your hormones, you're growing and your hormones are kicking in and all this stuff is kind of synced normally by nature.
01:23:03.000If you interfere with that because you think the kids can't handle having sex, like, you're gonna delay, what are you gonna delay puberty?
01:24:28.000Because I read something recently on this as a concept that they think that – but then like what is the baby getting from the mother in terms of like emotions and feeling and like babies are – Empathic,
01:26:53.000I mean, they probably, yeah, they probably was misogyny.
01:26:57.000They probably get it before we do, if anything.
01:26:59.000The artificial womb thing I found, 2019 there's an article that said they think they're 10 years away, but I dug through that real quick to find the person that was claiming that, and it turns out it's just like an artist.
01:27:35.000Well, don't you think it was so funny that for how many years...
01:27:37.000When you were a kid, for how many years did you hear about, you know, that alien life forms at Area 51, that's all bullshit, that's not what it...
01:27:46.000And then now they're like, no, no, no, we...
01:28:03.000What the government is admitting is that they believe that there are crafts that are operating that are outside of their understanding of physics.
01:28:12.000They've never said that we have anything at all?
01:28:13.000There have been people that have said, and this is a quote from the Pentagon, that there was off-world vehicles not from this earth.
01:28:24.000But who said that quote is what I was always confused about.
01:28:27.000It was like one of the top Pentagon officials.
01:28:30.000It's like one of those things where it's like, wait a minute, who said that?
01:28:43.000And I don't know if it's ours, if it's a drone that we don't tell them about that moves in a way that defies our understanding of physics because it doesn't operate on a propulsion engine.
01:28:57.000It operates on something that's completely new and unique.
01:29:00.000And there have been thoughts about how a new and unique gravity-based propulsion system would work for decades.
01:29:46.000The article hailed as, a historical inflection point in our attitudes towards, our attitudes regarding UFOs, implied the same message that the most recent one does.
01:31:08.000In that photo, I was just joking around saying, like, it looks like he's throwing up like a white power symbol, this guy, like a Nazi salute.
01:33:39.000No, if you have an enormous fucking spaceship, and you're a guy like you and I were in maintenance in Area 51. We definitely are in maintenance, dude!
01:34:40.000It's like a never-ending, who's going to believe you?
01:34:43.000Because even people that really love you, your wife, like someone that's like, that knows you the best would be like, babe, is everything okay?
01:39:12.000Somebody asked me one time on a show, on a podcast about, a guy who wasn't a comic was like, what makes a good room?
01:39:20.000And I go, honestly, I can name you physical elements, but sometimes, I don't know, some things are a feeling where you're like, wow, something hits.
01:40:57.000And this guy went on to start this fucking cult in West Hollywood.
01:41:01.000And then, I don't know, people were chasing him down or whatever, but he upended and took everybody to Austin and had them build this theater for him to dance in.
01:43:18.000And something hit me recently where I was like, I have the, I'm blessed enough, whatever you want to say, I'm privileged enough that I can do it.
01:44:39.000I saw a video this morning on the internet of how, it was like, it was in the Hamptons or something maybe?
01:44:44.000And it was like, how rich people fuck with other rich people.
01:44:47.000And it was a dude, and he's yelling at the helicopter, and the guy's in a helicopter, and he's like near his pool.
01:44:52.000I mean, dude, he's gotta be 20 feet above, no shit, above his pool, and the wind is blowing all his yard shit, all his pool, like, chairs and shit, all over the place, and the guy's pissed.
01:45:01.000And then you can tell that they're laughing about it, and then they fuck off in the helicopter.
01:45:05.000So he's doing it just to fuck with the guy?
01:47:09.000Yeah, you have to register a flight plan and then, you know, he pays for miles while he's getting his permits and you pay for gas and all that stuff.
01:48:53.000I feel like this happens so much that you're like, Why are we still doing these air shows?
01:48:58.000Doesn't this, every year you're like, you hear what happened at the air show, and you're like, yeah, the fucking 15 kids' heads got cut off because they came too low.
01:49:04.000I feel like every year something wild happens.
01:49:07.000Unless you're a blue angel, you know what I mean?
01:49:10.000Why are we still doing local fucking, local air shows?
01:49:13.000They always, how many air show accidents happen?
01:49:17.000I feel like every year someone's like, ooh, yeah, that was fucked up what happened at that one.
01:49:21.000Even like those Thunderbird guys, they crash sometimes.
01:49:24.000I think they have accidents, but I don't know if they crash-crash, but I do think they'll have accidents in the air, but those guys are like...
01:51:40.000I don't know what it's called, dude, but...
01:51:43.000There is a it's like this is old British shit like you know that like the cheese hill You know they've rolled that cheese down the hill they chase it.
01:51:49.000It's kind of like that where it's been around for like 300 fucking years.
01:51:52.000Yeah, like we're still doing it But it's like who can make the most insanely grotesque Absurd face and they put a horse cop.
01:52:01.000Yeah this what is it called gurning gurning gurning brother And it's how long can you hold it like that guy has a nail through his lip.
01:52:10.000Oh, yeah Some of the greatest Gurning videos.
01:53:23.000Look, you know, it's her passion, so I don't want to pull her away from it.
01:53:26.000Yeah, that's what people did before there were books.
01:53:29.000When you stared at other humans and you were like, that guy's ugly as fuck, we should make him do a thing to make us laugh because we're bored.
01:53:35.000How do you get attention in the neighborhood?
01:53:40.000It's the same thing as like gesturing.
01:53:42.000I imagine how that started was like an ugly weird dude did a thing and everyone laughed at him and someone higher up was like, you know who would like this?
01:56:06.000His wit really was the stuff of legends, but as you may recall, the only people fully off limits from a court Chester's mockery were the queen and her ladies-in-waiting.
01:57:18.000So why this is also so powerful to me, truly, is if you can see on the right there behind him, in a more clear version of this, the party is still happening.
01:58:53.000Like, the king would be like, you can, the most powerful man, fuck him.
01:58:56.000So, kill the messenger, from what I'm reading, comes from jesters being killed in battlefields because they were, the masters made them carry the messages to the other leaders.
01:59:09.000Jesters were often required to go to battlefield with their masters to carry messages from I think?
01:59:32.000And some used a catapult or a trebuchet to hurl the unfortunate messenger or his severed head back into his own camp as a graphic illustration of what they thought of the message.
02:01:04.000If you could imagine horrific ways that people died, one of the things they did, the way they would kill royals is they wouldn't kill them like they would kill regular people.
02:01:16.000So they would put them sometimes, they would stack them and then put boards over the top of them and then eat dinner on top of them and crush them to death.
02:01:33.000They built like a whole structure over you.
02:01:37.000And then everybody would, like, lay the tables out and all the food out, and then all the people would walk onto it, and then they'd just crush you.
02:02:06.000Think about giving us a little bit of credit as a society, as people, that we're pretty good to a degree at times changing our ways of like, we can't do that shit anymore.
02:03:42.000They make you stay outside and freezing cold overnight.
02:03:45.000Yeah, so inside's fine, outside it's like negative 12. And your head is stuck in the cage, and if you wobble enough, the stool falls, you fall asleep, you die.
02:06:26.000He was said to meditate daily upon the image below in particular and never stop being obsessed by this image of pain, at the same time ecstatic and intolerable.
02:06:37.000Dude, have you seen, have you seen, this made me think, have you seen that family in like Puerto Rico, they like, exhumed their grandmother and walked her around town?
02:09:45.000Doesn't that like really, that preserves the shit out of you, right?
02:09:48.000Well, I know from that HBO autopsy show they would go and dig up and bomb bodies and find out there was like arsenic in them and things that the people had done to poison the people and kill people.
02:10:21.000It was like after they were dead, like they would sell grandma and he said the high percentage of these, the high percentages of what was going on, you know, in this marketplace was for reassignment surgery.
02:10:31.000So it was like, you know, it was either like skin for new dicks or skin for vaginal reconstructive surgery and shit.
02:12:02.000The kid shot his dad in the fucking face and he lived.
02:12:05.000His dad came to his house and he shot him, fucking lived.
02:12:08.000But that guy, Julian, he was doing a body broker thing and he was like, it's fascinating to where you can find out where your grandma's arm is going to be someone's cock one day.
02:13:12.000It is, but it's about a similar thing where, like, a rehab found out that it was really a fraud cover-up for a multi-billion dollar company that takes...
02:13:22.000It says, nearly all the film is based on John's real-life experience, and what wasn't was based on other people's shared experiences with patient brokering...
02:16:24.000The move is they take you, they take your body, no embalming, they cut you up, and they bring you to the top of a mountain where they chop you up and feed you to vultures while everybody watches.
02:18:14.000Do you think there's probably got to be a lot of people that are eyeing that big-ass cemetery in LA and going, you know how much this is worth?
02:18:20.000Brother, the Hollywood Forever Cemetery?
02:18:52.000You know where Michael Jackson's, like he's above Glendale, right?
02:18:55.000Like there's, Forest Lawn has multiple locations, or there are multiple parts to the cemetery, but there's like a ton of famous people buried by the Glendale Temple, I think.
02:19:30.000He was buried across the street from my dad, and I was reading up about him because I was like, I want to know more about...
02:19:35.000I think his name was Jack Rubenstein or something like that.
02:19:40.000But all about his motives, and then there was all these conspiracy theories about even people didn't even think he might not be the one that killed Lee Harvey Oswald.
02:19:48.000Oh, he definitely killed Lee Harvey Oswald.
02:19:49.000Well, right, but then they say that he shot him, right?
02:19:52.000But then there was, people said that that's not what killed Lee Harvey Oswald.
02:19:56.000Well, that's definitely what killed him.
02:21:47.000And he'd been working on this one book.
02:21:48.000Started off as a magazine article, and as he started researching the magazine article, it just got deeper and deeper.
02:21:54.000He found out more inconsistencies and more things that were fucked up.
02:21:57.000And then he eventually realized that Charles Manson had been visited by Jolly West in prison.
02:22:03.000And that they had experimented with Charles Manson with crowd control and mind control and cult control methods and they provided him with LSD most likely and most certainly got him out of jail every time he got arrested afterwards.
02:22:16.000People who had arrested Charles Manson for all sorts of shit while he was on parole that should have put him in jail for the rest of his life.
02:22:21.000They were like, well, he's above our pay grade.
02:22:26.000So they would just let him go and then he would go out and run these hippies and have them murder people.
02:22:30.000And this is at the time where they were trying to infiltrate The hippie movement, the same way the FBI tries to infiltrate these fucking wacky militias and get them to go kidnap the governor of Michigan.
02:22:39.000Back then, they would dose people up with acid and get the hippies to go murder people.
02:22:44.000They're like, this is a great way to crack down on the anti-war movement.
02:22:47.000Great way to crack down on the hippies.
02:22:49.000Get everybody terrified of this young movement of these...
02:22:56.000Matter of fact, they're fucking murderers.
02:22:57.000So they literally got a murderer in prison, got a crazy psychopath in prison, and Charles Manson taught him how to run a cult, taught him how to control people with LSD, and then supplied him with LSD and sent him out in the world.
02:25:33.000A lot of things about the PGA are bullshit, and particularly the idea that the PGA had a stronghold on them.
02:25:41.000It has remnants of contracts from studios in the 50s for actors, where you're like, we own your fucking ass.
02:25:48.000Your likeness, your rights, your images.
02:25:49.000When the golfers golf, They can't use that footage.
02:25:53.000They have to license it from the PGA. So if I'm out playing and I want to be like, hey man, I want to put up a post on Instagram about this dope-ass putt I hit or whatever, this great...
02:26:07.000If I'm Zion Williamson in the NBA and I fucking yoke on someone, I put my dick in their fucking face and dunk on them, the NBA can't wait to give you the footage.
02:26:38.000The problem people had was like, Dustin Johnson or, you know, guys that are at the top, and they're like, why are you pulling your game over there?
02:26:49.000Do you think you can't win anymore in this?
02:27:28.000It's not going to be bigger, not going to take it over.
02:27:30.000But what people are concerned with is that people are leaving and they're going to work for someone who's been accused of some horrific shit.
02:27:56.000So I think when you start to get into the nitpicky stuff, I'm always like...
02:28:00.000I understand the idea of being like people are anti them playing for Saudi money, but if you think you're not involved in Saudi money at a high sports level, I'm sorry, but it's there.
02:28:11.000Well, the WWE fans are freaking out now, right?
02:29:18.000What people have a problem with is Jamal Khashoggi.
02:29:21.000Jamal Khashoggi, who was a journalist for the Washington Post, who was dismembered at the Turkish embassy, supposedly at the instructions of the Saudi royals.
02:30:37.000I went to one in Chicago, Rich Harvest Farms.
02:30:44.000It's really interesting to see the internal uproar, which I immediately attribute to...
02:30:50.000Golf is an old tradition sport, so people are really particular.
02:30:54.000So they don't even like that someone's entering the conversation.
02:30:56.000The other perspective, obviously, is the one that is the bigger deal is people think it's an immoral move, an unethical move.
02:31:03.000If it was instead some enormous hedge fund got together and they put all their money together and decided to fund their own alternative golf They'd be just as mad.
02:31:26.000They're more mad about business interests.
02:31:27.000They don't fucking care about the Saudi stuff.
02:31:29.000How much of an effect is it having on the top players?
02:31:32.000I mean, my buddy's doing a documentary that's coming out on Netflix, I think coming up soon in the first quarter of the year, about the PGA. And during it, during the middle of filming, half of the guys left and went to live, and he films both perspectives.
02:33:10.000I don't know if in the new era, our age is...
02:33:15.000What's going on now in the youth of business, I don't fucking know what 22-year-olds have to do to get through in the corporate world, but I imagine it's still a part of it to a degree.
02:33:25.000It's an inner circle that you're going to get leverage from some way or not.
02:34:19.000Now, is this the general attitude of most people?
02:34:22.000Most people are just letting it go, they don't care, or are people outraged?
02:34:25.000Most guys my age, I think Jamie might be in a similar boat where you're like, I don't fucking give a shit, but my dad's generation is like, fucking ridiculous, you don't support the fucking Saudis, and you go over there and you're abandoning the ship that you sailed in on.
02:34:40.000You know, the PGA built you and it formed you.
02:34:43.000It would be like if the UFC had a competitive thing come forward with way more money, which I don't know if that's happened.
02:34:56.000There's some guys who get really good deals that they wouldn't get in the UFC. So what happens is if there's talent that's available that's top flight talent, Bellator has options.
02:35:08.000A lot of guys will go to Bellator because Bellator will pay them more.
02:35:12.000But it's like when you get to the World Championship, like the Conor McGregor, Khabib Nurmagomedov level, I think they make more money in the UFC. Right.
02:35:20.000I think because they have pay-per-view.
02:35:23.000You don't see pay-per-view with Bellator.
02:35:25.000I think they've done a couple pay-per-views.
02:35:27.000I don't think they've been that successful.
02:35:29.000Whereas UFC does a pay-per-view every month.
02:35:32.000Every month is an enormous pay-per-view.
02:35:34.000There's world championship fights where you get the best of the best, and everybody knows who they are.
02:35:39.000It's like Q-tips, NFL, NBA. That's MMA at the highest level.
02:35:46.000You can get cotton swabs at CVS that aren't made by Q-tips.
02:36:06.000To get elite, world-class fighters to compete in the biggest organization to hold that UFC belt, You know, I have Bruce Buffer say, and no!
02:36:16.000You know, and they put that fucking strap on you.
02:40:54.000So on that particular hole, what's really fun is people will gamble on like closest to the pin, you know, but you're doing it with buddies, like they'll go, the next foursome that's up.
02:43:42.000Because it's smaller for the building.
02:43:44.000They decided to make a smaller, they always had a smaller octagon.
02:43:47.000Like when we used to do fights at the Palms, we used to do like fight nights or when they used to do like the finals of The Ultimate Fighter, they would have them at the Palms and they'd have them in a small cage.
02:44:00.000And then they decided they kind of liked the small cage.
02:44:02.000Because the Palms was a small place where we would do it at.
02:44:05.000When we did fight, see if you find fights at the Palms.
02:47:27.000Well, part of that traditional thing he's saying...
02:47:29.000He gets to ride in a cart for this, and part of the thing that he's about to tell you is a big beef with the PGA is you have to have a medical exemption under wild circumstances like this to be able to have a cart during a real event.
02:50:01.000People can tolerate pain, man, at incredible levels.
02:50:06.000You know, when I had David Goggins on, David Goggins explained the operation that he had to get done on his knee because he has no cartilage in his knees.
02:50:33.000And because there's just bone on bone, the bone was all distorted and fucking overgrowth and shit to try to deal with all this inflammation.
02:52:42.000He's an expert in—well, he's a fitness trainer, and he had a bunch of injuries himself from playing basketball, and to the point where they were saying, like, look, you're too fragile, your knees keep fucking up, you're never going to be able to play.
02:52:55.000And so he figured out ways to strengthen and rehabilitate his knees.
02:53:00.000And he developed this knees over toes program.
02:53:04.000You start off with just like walking backwards and pulling a light sled backwards and doing certain things till you get to the point where you can have strength in a full range of motion with your knees doing things like that.
02:53:22.000And if you can get to that, and he, it's not like a trick.
02:53:26.000He has a, like, look, walking backward on a treadmill, doing tibia raises, and it's all to strengthen the muscles around the knee and the stabilizing muscles of the knee, which most people are very weak in.
02:53:38.000You know, people have, like, strong quads, but they don't have the exercises in their repertoire that...
02:53:44.000Develops all the muscles around the knee and this guy's developed this whole program.
02:53:54.000I do squats like air squats and then weighted squats on a slant board and I have this thing that I use for my legs from a place called, I think it's called Animal House Fitness and it's called a monkey foot and it clamps onto a barbell.
02:54:10.000And it clamps onto a dumbbell, so you can pick up dumbbells with your foot.
02:54:16.000So you can do knee raises and leg curls and leg extensions and really strengthen all the muscles around your knee and around your hip flexors.
02:54:26.000Because lifting with your legs this way, like a reverse squat, is another excellent way to develop speed and power.
02:54:35.000So this is his company, Animal House Fitness.
02:55:18.000It's like one of the best ab workouts.
02:55:20.000Think about knee raises, but think about knee raises times 10. So, you know, I'm doing this with 100 pounds for 10 reps, and it really builds the strength in your ab muscles and your hip flexors, and you tie it into your shoes like this.
02:55:35.000So you pull that thing down, you cinch it up, and then you back up, and then you're just using the muscles.
02:55:41.000See, but it looks like he's doing it at just the regular ones at the gym.
02:55:45.000I use a regular pulley machine at the gym with those straps.
02:55:48.000So I do it with the monkey feet, but I also do it with that.
02:55:53.000So you're developing muscles, and it's phenomenal for kicking, too, because the hip flexors and all these muscles at the top of the thighs, they don't get worked out with weights very often.
02:56:04.000So you really develop those by hitting a bag, which is the best way to develop technique, but you can develop additional power by doing that.
02:56:13.000You ever want to kick anybody anymore?
02:57:52.000The movement from standing, talking to someone, to punching them in the face is a fraction of a second.
02:57:57.000BAM! If you have a good, clean, straight punch and you know how to throw it fast, if you know that you have to hit somebody and you want to hit them before they hit you, that's a good way to go.
03:01:06.000I watched a World Star Hip Hop once where this guy got knocked out and then everybody ran by and kicked him in the head while he was unconscious.
03:01:32.000I love watching it, and I love that you bring me.
03:01:34.000But I was always like, man, when I saw somebody get worked, I was like, oh my god, I'm watching part of his life leave him.
03:01:40.000It's like I'm watching a couple of years go by.
03:01:43.000Well, if you're watching a guy like Khabib Nurmagomedov just smash some guy, get on top of him and smash him, you're watching with each subsequent elbow, with each punch, you're closer to death.
03:02:20.000I will say, as your friend, it's so funny, like, being friends with you and watching what people don't know or don't get to feel is when we go to, like, the thing together and, like, you getting excited and getting ready.
03:02:30.000Your energy is much different than when you and I are going to do a show.
03:03:07.000I've had some funny moments where some shit happened and I crack a joke about something, but it's rare.
03:03:16.000There was one time this guy dropped a bag of ice in the middle of the octagon on this guy's head and the ice fell everywhere and they panicked and they just ran out of there.
03:05:11.000Full T-Mobile arena or wherever the fuck it was.
03:05:14.000Full pack house at the MGM. But most of the time when I'm doing it, I'm trying to just do my best to explain what's happening and to give life to it.
03:05:26.000I'm interested to see, as your buddy, what's the next...
03:06:03.000I think there are things because of who you are, shit's going to continue to happen and things will continue to change and you'll build and grow and open up something else and change something else.
03:07:48.000An indie movie that's a small little baby thing and then Dave, the third season of that show comes out in March and then my Netflix special.
03:07:56.000So it's like the beginning of the year has a lot happening and I'm like, that's why I'm like, I want to see what happens and go to New York and have a little change and see what makes of it.
03:08:47.000It's printed out somewhere in an article that he said the most he saw I think was a hundred G's or two hundred G's a hole or something like that.
03:11:02.000Michael Jordan, to me, is probably the best athlete that I've ever seen, that I've ever been around and watched play and, you know, the way he presented himself and played the game.
03:11:40.000There's tons of different rumor stories about he could fucking go out all night, drink, hang out, have fun, wake up, you know, at fucking 5, 6 in the morning, work out, go play a game and score just as many as he would if he wasn't fucking blacked out the night before.
03:13:20.000But it's also what he can do as an athlete.
03:13:23.000I mean, the fact that the guy is still making millions and millions of dollars fighting people who have no business fighting him, including Logan Paul.
03:13:34.000He fights a guy that's 200 pounds, a young, big, brutish athlete.
03:15:19.000I want to just tell you this, because you said that, it reminded me, my childhood best friend told me a story one time, he was on the train in Chicago, and this guy sees a guy, he recognizes from across the train, He's like, yo!