Joe Rogan Experience #1937 - Punkie Johnson
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2 hours and 40 minutes
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193.28413
Summary
In this episode, I sit down with my good friend, comedian, writer and all-around funny lady, Kelsea Ballerini. Kelsea talks about growing up in New Orleans, how she got her start in comedy, falling in a hole, and how she ended up in Los Angeles. She also talks about how she became a stand-up comic and what it took to get her to where she is today. I really enjoyed this episode and I hope you do too! Cheers, my friend! -Jon Sorrentino Thank you so much to my friend Kelsea for coming on the pod, it's been a pleasure. I'm so excited to have her on the show and I can't wait to see what she does next. Thank you Kelsea, thank you for being a part of this journey with me. I know it's going to be a wild ride and I'm looking forward to seeing what you do next! Cheers! -Jon and Kelsea Thanks for listening, Cheers. Jon & Kelsea <3 -Jon Music: "Sonic & Friends" by The Weakerthans and "Outta This World" by Fountains of Wayne (feat. John Mayer ) - "In Need of a Savior" by Zapsplat & "Goodbye Outer Space" by Bumble & Feathers (ft. Jeff Perla "Out of My Mind" by Puff & Steph Enjoy & Cheers -Jon & Sarah ( ) -Jon talks about what it's like in LA and how they're going to LA and what they hope to do in the future. - Jon talks about the future of comedy and what he's gonna be in LA - and how he s going to do it in LA - and why he s not going to Los Angeles - and what s coming to LA in the next few years - and much more! -and how he's not going back to New Orleans -and why he loves LA anymore. -and so much more. -so much more!! - so much love, so much so much gratitude and appreciation for LA! - -so many more . And so much respect for LA. . . . -JON & Sarah JON & JORDY - JODY & JEAN - JODY LYNN
Transcript
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From the bartender at the Comedy Store to Saturday Night Live.
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I'm still processing that if you want me to be honest.
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If I'm not mistaken, it was 2011. Oh, cheers, my friend.
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I love it when I see people start off at the store and just get their feet under them and get their shit together and pull it off.
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I was kind of mentally still in California because I remember I was out there, just this little chick from New Orleans.
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I'm like, what the hell am I doing in California?
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What am I doing driving down Sunset and seeing these beautiful palm trees, the things that I would see on television?
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The first time I came to California was 93. I was with my friend Gary Valentine and we were out here to do some shit for MTV and we were driving around like, we're really here?
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I was 26 and I was like, what the fuck is this place?
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It just felt like I'm not supposed to be here or something.
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I had me a little change because I didn't work for six months when I first went out there because I fell in a hole in New Orleans.
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I was just minding my business, walking down the street, and I just fell out of the world into a hole.
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And my stupid ass, I didn't realize how dangerous it was for me to be in that hole.
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And then I had to, I was, the Walgreens was right there, so I had to go.
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I bought, like, some pajamas or whatever they had.
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And I went home, and my parents were like, this is not funny.
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I had to go to physical therapy because my adrenaline was pumping, so I didn't know I was hurt.
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So the next day, I was just like, oh, my back was stressed.
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My arms were stressed because I was banging on the ground trying to get out, trying to pull myself to the cement to climb out.
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And I'm like, you dumb bitch, how you falling to a hole?
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But I didn't realize how serious it was till after.
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And then my parents, they brought me to a lawyer.
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Well, you know, with the lawyers and shit, you got to go to therapy while they litigate and figure shit out.
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For a couple years, my neck, I had a strained back, I had a strained neck, but I was well, I was living in, for six months in Los Angeles with no job.
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So that's what got you to LA? Falling in a hole?
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Like, I would always, like, make up these little jokes.
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It's a growing comedic community out there right now.
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My mom cracked jokes when she was punishing me as a kid.
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She would say riddles while she was whipping my ass.
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I mean, it was nothing, like, everything was just funny.
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If we, you know, on the weekends, you know, you clean the house, you listen to music, we listen to comedy in my house.
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And before I went to sleep every night, I watched Comic View on BET. So I was like, you know what, I want to do that.
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And so I started in Los Angeles when I got out there.
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So the store was the first time you did stand-up?
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I think the first time I ever did a set was at the Ice House in the Rhino Room.
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Oh yeah, if I need to go and practice something.
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If your jokes suck in that small room, they suck.
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I'll go take a nice sexy bomb in them little bitty rooms.
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Just some shit I just got in my head and I need to get out.
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I don't know if the Laugh Factory got a little room.
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When you're with a tiny amount of people, you get to see what's bullshit in your act.
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So I don't think I met you until I came back to the store, which was the 14th, 2014, I think.
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Yes, and that's when all the stories started happening about you.
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Because I'm like, yo, that's the Fear Factory dude.
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I'm like, what the, because I didn't know the history.
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So when, okay, so basically, I'm like this chick from this, from, you know, New Orleans, it's the country, you know what I'm saying?
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New Orleans is a city, but I went to school in Thibodeau, Louisiana, and that's super, super country town, right?
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Now, I always had dreams of coming to Hollywood, but I didn't know how I was going to get there.
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I was in an eight-year relationship with this girl.
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And I remember I used to sit outside in this tree with snacks and weed.
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I'm like, you know how you just got to look in the mirror sometimes and be like, yo, you tripping?
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So I just had this epiphany about myself, like, bro, get out of here.
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I packed up all my shit in this two-door blue Honda thing, and I drove across the country just like that.
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And that's how I got into comedy, because I had an interview at the comedy store, and when I got there, it was like 75 people in the original room.
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This was a line full of people waiting to be seen.
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If I get this job, that means it's meant for me to do comedy.
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Because I ain't no way I'm going to get this job out of all these people.
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The dude, Mark, he loved the fact that I was from New Orleans.
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I bartended for I think two, I think two years before.
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See, a lot of people be sleeping on a comedy, so that's a whole different ballgame.
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You're doing three shows a night sometimes where you got to switch out.
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I mean, you got to work fast because you're serving, what, 400, 500, 600, 700?
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You could be serving 800 to 900 people a night, and you got to get them all two, three, sometimes full drinks within two hours.
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I was always impressed watching you guys hustle back there.
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You're having a good time, and it's family-oriented.
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It's family-owned, so you're having a good time, but you got to move.
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Well, that area, that back bar area, that's the vibe.
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Everybody comes back and checks in on everybody, hugs everybody, says hi.
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What I love about it is we got to sip a little bit, too, while we was back.
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I think I probably did a thousand shots with you.
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Because it's like, but I love working at places like that, too, that's not like corporate, and they allow their staff to have a good time.
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And we was like, cool, you ain't got to say nothing.
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We don't really care what happened between you and the server.
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There was a few over the years, but they kind of weeded them out.
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It's a place of like, you know, If you're not with us, you're against us, and you gotta go.
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I saw so many people try to flex and talk to the manager and think they're gonna get somebody fired, and it's hilarious.
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The reaction is so different at the comedy store, they're like, yeah, you gotta go.
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If that was, don't come up in here with that bullshit.
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Don't come with the tattletale and all that shit.
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I probably should have got written up so many times at the comedy store.
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You know, like people were coming there just doing the weirdest stuff and have the weirdest energy.
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Well, they would come into the back bar, too, thinking they could order a drink.
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Like, drunks would wander through those doors and just make it into the back area.
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But that was another thing about the store, too, because it's like, we expect for you to know what your lane is.
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But then, you know, you give somebody an inch, they take a mile, and they think they run the joint, and then we got a problem.
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But I do appreciate the people that come there and really want to be a part.
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That just shows you that it's a good place and people really want to be a part of this family.
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Well, it is a family and it is an amazing place.
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I mean, the history of that building is just insane.
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Even before the Comedy Store, the history of the building, back when it was Ciro's Nightclub and Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis and Sammy Davis Jr., all these world-class talents would be on that stage.
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So, Jeff Scott, God rest his wonderful soul, on Halloween, he would do these little haunted comedy tour exposition things up in...
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And you've got to think that some evil shit went down.
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Yeah, Bugsy Siegel owned the comedy store before Mitzi did.
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It closed in 57 and became a rock club for a little while.
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So it opened in 1940. Cirrus became a popular night spot for celebrities.
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And it closed in 57. It was reopened as a rock club in 65. And then what year did Desi Arnaz play there too?
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Cirrus once the most glamorous club in Hollywood.
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It was called The Kaleidoscope in 68. And it was called It's Boss in 69. Oh, my God.
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Patch 2. Patch 2. And then The Comedy Store in 72. And 72 to today.
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I remembered it was something other than Cero's for a little while, but I don't remember what it was.
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But, you know, the big names were Cero's in the store.
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I wonder if she knew this, because this is serious.
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He dined at Ciro's in 65. I believe this is like old surf rock.
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Joan Crawford, Frank Sinatra, Ava Gardner, Sidney Poitier.
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I mean, everything about that place, it's so set up.
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It's all the weird little corridors and weird little places in it.
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I was just like, that was one thing I was saying, please don't let this place shut down.
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Well, fortunately, they made a lot of money from 2014 to like 2019, like when it went down, you know, when 20, when it stopped, when everything stopped.
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But, you know, how long can you stay open and pay the rent and not have any income coming in?
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You've been doing stand-up since 2011. Right, right, right.
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And you'd only been doing it in LA? Where had you been doing it?
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I would get like small gigs like the Madhouse would show me some love.
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Punchline San Francisco would show me some love.
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I didn't fall into the comedy game because that's what I wanted to do.
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And when I got the job at the store, I'm like, all right, Bet, you're supposed to do comedy.
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I was the type of person, I'm like, you know what, I'm going to just ride it out.
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I'll probably, you know, of course I had dreams, but the way it's set up, like how hard it is and how much rejection is out there.
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I just was like, you know what, I'm probably just going to be a comedist, don't comic forever, fuck it, whatever, right?
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I did this show with my guy, Hamid Weinberg, with Sarah Silverman Company.
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And then my managers, Dave, Becky, and Ethan Stern, they're like, all right, kid, what you want?
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So that's when things became a little more serious.
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And that's when I started really learning the game.
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But I didn't really know about the road until three years ago.
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Um, SNL. And now I done went from doing 15 minutes at the Comedy Store to, oh no, now you gotta do an hour.
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I don't know, 20 minutes, 30 minutes of just shit that I had accumulated over the years.
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But now it was time for me to start putting it all together.
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And every single step of the way, while I was doing that, I was thinking about you because I remember we had a conversation at the store.
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You probably don't remember you told me this, but you was just like, economy of words.
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So, as I'm putting this set together, I got paragraphs and paragraphs of shit trying to describe my joke.
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And that's when my comedy started getting better.
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And if I got to tell a story with it, I'm going to make sure I got references inside of it.
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And act out so it could be full and they don't have air or space in it.
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So I'm still working on that though, by the way, but I'm better.
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Especially because you're going to always come up with new material.
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So if you come up with new material, you're always working on it.
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That's why I like doing the small rooms to work on it.
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I'll go do some comedy in a coffee shop in a second.
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You know, but before all of this, my rooms to go bomb in was the coffee shop or a library or the back of a basement.
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I mean, not the back, but in a basement or something like that.
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But I still don't know what it feels like to, like, Really truly perform in a big theater.
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I guess like things just kind of turned around for me so fast that I was never put in a situation to go open for anybody.
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So now I just got to figure out how to do it now.
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Now I'm working up to the theaters without having an experience of doing it for anybody else.
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They got some days I'd be like, Punky, what are you doing?
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Keep doing it and one day you look back and you go, how the fuck did I get here?
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Oh yeah, they got times I'll be like, punky, you know what, you still got time to just, you know they'll get your job back at the store.
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But I'm like, my mother didn't raise me to be no sucker.
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So it's like, you know, I just got to talk myself out of this.
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Because the people that don't have that are usually delusional.
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Because these delusional people, they out here fucking up everything with a smile.
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Like, you'll see them go on stage at the comic store and just eat shit and come off with a big smile on their face.
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I have seen a lot of people get, like, way better.
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Like, Matt Edgar, like, super goofy, dumb funny to me, man.
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And I don't really remember everybody that be up in there, but I know Valissa Venezuelan.
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I'm like, girl, I'm like, what's going on with you?
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She got all kind of like, I think, like JCPenney endorsements and stuff.
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Just the vibe of going into that, pushing through those swinging doors and all the hustle and bustle and everybody's laughing and talking shit and All the waitresses are laughing, the comedians are laughing, everyone's having fun, everyone's working.
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I'm like, man, I don't even want to walk in this room no more.
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He was, you know, such a big part of the store.
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You know, he would just always crack jokes with them.
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He would come talk to you about sets and stuff that you were doing.
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He was just, he was like, almost like a counselor.
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He was a part of the family, but he had a very specific role as the guy who played the piano and brought all the comedians up.
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In between the comedians, for people who don't know, Jeff Scott would play piano.
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With some comedians, they would work with him, so he'd play some music while they were on stage, and he would give them sound cues and fuck around with them.
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Jeff and I, we had this thing where I would sing my little songs and stuff at the end of the night, and he would play with them.
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And when he passed away, I called one of the managers at the store.
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I was like, I'm going to need y'all to get all of them tapes.
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Because me and Jeff used to say some shit, okay?
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Because, you know, the comedy story is like, look, come in here, be yourself, do your thing.
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Especially in this climate, you just got to watch what you do and watch what you say.
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And that's a big shift coming from somewhere where you didn't have to watch what you did and you didn't have to watch what you said.
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That's like the polar opposite of the comedy story.
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I have to be smarter in the way that I deliver or decide to say something sometimes.
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Because I could say something, somebody could take that, blow that shit all out of context, and then boom, that's my job.
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I mean, you're going to always be alright, but then that's going to piss me off.
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It's just like, yo, why are everybody starting all this drama over...
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Simply misunderstanding something that somebody said.
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It's people that just, you know what it's like?
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It's like the world is filled with glass houses and there's just buckets of rocks everywhere.
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It's like it's so easy to bring someone down now, especially someone that said they tweeted some shit in 2009 or said some shit.
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It's like, it's a normal part of human culture.
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Like, when you see someone, especially someone like yourself, that's on the rise and now all of a sudden you're doing great.
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People that aren't doing great, they want to chop you down.
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Like, there's one thing about comedy that's fascinating is that when you start out, anybody can start out.
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Like, literally anyone, including mentally ill people.
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And so you got a lot of mentally ill people that you're sharing space with and you're hanging out with them all the time and then you start to do well and they get angry at you.
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Like people that have like severe narcissistic tendencies and severe jealousy.
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Watching like doormen and bartenders and people that just start out and then one of them starts doing well and then they start getting gigs.
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And then they start opening for people, and they see the fucking hate in the other people, man.
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And so those are the ones that want to take you down.
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The ones that want to take you down are the ones that can't do it.
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Especially like working at the store, because the big comics will come in, and they'll just pick people.
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And you would see it, because people that's been at the store for a while, they wouldn't get picked to go on the road or open up.
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I'm losing my job for sure if I smoke that shit.
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I always start feeling also like I ain't shit with marijuana.
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But a lot of people that smoke, they're like, look, just keep smoking, keep smoking.
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Yeah, it makes me feel like I'm not good enough.
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That's why I'm scared of things that make you overconfident.
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Things that make you overconfident I think are terrible for you.
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It depends on the person, clearly, because some people have a real problem with confidence and they don't have any.
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But I think for some people that are doing well, it's a little reality check.
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It's like you need to look at the big, giant picture.
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Locked in with blinders on, looking at your own day-to-day existence and known things that you concentrate on that you think are important.
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Marijuana sort of dissolves any artificial barriers and just makes you look at things for what they really are.
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I do allow myself to feel that once a month, but I have to be alone.
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I get me some marijuana, because you go to the stores now, and they be like, oh, this is that Lillilac Polly Wap.
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Just your hybrid and your mixed with your hybrid.
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And it honestly looks like I'm in a crazy house.
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It kind of looks like I'm wrapped up because I'm always, I start rocking and I'm doing all of this and I'm crying and I'm talking to myself.
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Because my emotions are all over the place when I'm smoking.
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I feel like those things you're describing, though, as an artist, it's a normal thing.
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It seems so crazy that, you know, you would battle with you ain't shit and you got this, and then it's like both sides of your brain are sort of duking it out.
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But I think as an artist, that's something that does, you have to have, as a performer in particular, you have to have a certain amount of confidence.
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You have to be able to go up there and know that you got it.
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But also, you have to have a certain amount of humility, and you have to have a certain amount of perspective.
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And sometimes it's hard, and the better you get, the better you do in life, the more success you get, I think it's harder to have that perspective.
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Because, you know, it's easier to just believe your own bullshit.
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It's easier to, like, pretend you're different than everybody else.
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It's easier to do that, like, that you're special.
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But marijuana, like, lets you know, like, right away, bitch, you ain't special.
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And it just, it makes me, like, a more considerate person.
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I remember they had some drama at the store one time and you was like, you was like, absolutely not.
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I don't want to say what it was, but you had our back.
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Like the servers, you protected us and you was like, fuck no, not on my watch.
00:32:41.000
Well, sometimes people, they abuse people that like work in the service industry.
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You know, you can always, like when I go to restaurants and stuff, you can always tell that I served and I bartended for a while because I stack everything up.
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He was the reason why we made money a lot of nights.
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I tell people it's like you're leaving love bombs.
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Even if you're not even there to watch it go off.
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I like to get out of the room before they even see the tip.
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But sometimes I'm with my girl and I'm like, I mean, especially if the people were incredible.
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I look at my girl, I'm like, we blessing these people tonight?
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Like you said, I don't need to stay and see their reactions.
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I think that's missing in cultures where they don't tip.
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I think the problem with tipping is that you could still pay someone like two bucks an hour, which is kind of crazy.
00:34:09.000
Especially if you don't have a job in New York, because I think you can do that in New York.
00:34:13.000
I think there's a lot of places you could do that.
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What I mean is, if you do it in New York, I don't think it matters because people in New York, they just have this sense.
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But, you know, a lot of people in the East Coast are tippers.
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I don't think I'm going back to the West Coast.
00:34:35.000
I think the problem with the West Coast is too many people are trying to be famous.
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And when you get too many people trying to be famous, you have like a high percentage of narcissists and a high percentage of sociopaths.
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I don't mean it's like all of them, but it's like, what's the average, the percentage of sociopaths?
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I think they say it's like 10% or something like that or 4%.
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I don't know if they really know the actual numbers.
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And if you go to a place like Hollywood, you've got to imagine that most of the people that go there, the people that move there, they move there to either be a part of the business, like to be a producer or a director or something, or they want to be in front of the camera.
00:35:24.000
Or they want to be famous, they don't even know how.
00:35:28.000
Like, you've seen people go, they go from acting, and then they're acting for a while, and then they say, you know what, I'm gonna do stand-up.
00:35:34.000
And then they just, they don't really love stand-up.
00:35:42.000
They have a hole inside of them that they need to constantly fill up with other people's attention.
00:35:47.000
And they'll pretend to be someone to get attention.
00:35:50.000
Which is the fucked up thing about auditioning.
00:35:53.000
Because you take a person who's like super insecure, wants to come to Hollywood for validation, and then you have this process where you have to beg people to like you.
00:36:03.000
You have to go in there and put on your best show and hope these people like you, which completely changes the way people behave.
00:36:11.000
Because those people that are so desperate for success or really want to make it, they start behaving and thinking in a way that they think is going to get them successful in their business.
00:36:20.000
And they can't express unique or individual opinions on things.
00:36:28.000
And so you have all these people that just, they become like this sort of Hollywood ideology espousers.
00:36:38.000
They just become these people that talk the same way.
00:36:41.000
Like you see them, they say, like when they see you, they don't say, nice to meet you, punky.
00:36:47.000
Good to see you because maybe they've seen you already.
00:36:51.000
So instead of just saying, nice to meet you, oh, we met.
00:36:55.000
Instead of having a real moment, it's good to see you.
00:37:05.000
If you brought a friend over and the friend says, hi, this is my friend Punky.
00:37:11.000
What kind of weird people are you bringing over here?
00:37:22.000
Yeah, so that flavors the vibe of the city because it's the number one industry or at least the most famous industry in Los Angeles is the television and film industry and then of course the music business which is kind of similar I mean when the record days in the record days in the radio days when it was really important You had to impress these people that were the record executives,
00:37:47.000
and you had to impress these people who were the radio executives, because they would play your music, and they would pick you.
00:37:52.000
And there were so many people they could pick, and they would pick you, and they had these predatory relationships where they'd take an enormous amount of the money that you made.
00:38:00.000
And that was the only way you're going to make it.
00:38:04.000
And a lot of people who made it through, like Prince, He had to change his fucking name because he couldn't perform into the name Prince.
00:38:25.000
Like, Kanye could change his name every week and people would keep up.
00:38:53.000
I think Kanye, the mistakes that he's made, I think he'll be pretty honest about it.
00:38:58.000
And that mental illness allows him to have insane productivity with music.
00:39:03.000
You can call it illness, or you could instead say he's got this gift.
00:39:08.000
And this gift sometimes fucking shoots off live rounds in all sorts of different directions.
00:39:12.000
But what it can do is produce some of the best fucking music ever.
00:39:16.000
Fucking amazing jams where you listen to them and you forget sometimes.
00:39:27.000
Like that mind that creates those bangers also says crazy shit about Hitler.
00:39:36.000
And I think also, when he gets embattled, the problem is he wants to fight back.
00:39:43.000
I think part of the reason why he became a big Trump fan is because Obama called him a jackass.
00:39:53.000
Because you've got to imagine having the President of the United States refer to you as a jackass.
00:39:58.000
The first black president of the United States?
00:40:00.000
In my life, other than Kennedy, who's a better spokesman?
00:40:07.000
Who's like the most impressive of all presidents?
00:40:10.000
Well, you'd look to a guy and say, the way that guy thinks and talks, that's a leader.
00:40:27.000
You see the shit that he writes about Pete Davidson?
00:40:34.000
That's the same mind that makes him be insanely prolific.
00:40:37.000
That's the same mind that has this genius association to sound and music.
00:40:48.000
He doesn't have a place to blow it off anymore, which I also think is not good.
00:40:51.000
I think it's probably better to just let him say ridiculous shit on Twitter and let people refute it.
00:40:58.000
I don't think it's a good move to eliminate a guy like that from being able to communicate.
00:41:06.000
And I don't think he should be medicated either, which is even crazier, because when he was medicated, remember he was all slow and he got chubby.
00:41:14.000
I didn't know that he was on medication at that time.
00:41:18.000
I can assume that people like him have to be medicated.
00:41:34.000
You've married what the world considers the baddest bitch.
00:41:41.000
It's like, what else is there for you to fucking do?
00:41:44.000
Yeah, but that doesn't mean you have to get medicated.
00:41:48.000
He probably got medicated because he had nothing else to do.
00:41:50.000
So he started doing shit that he probably wasn't supposed to do.
00:41:55.000
Well, I think, you know, people around him were concerned because he gets manic.
00:41:59.000
But that manic, crazy energy is also what comes out in his music.
00:42:05.000
I mean, talking to him is wild because when you're having a conversation with him, like when I did a podcast with him, it's like you can see in some people.
00:42:14.000
Where their mind is like a runaway train It's like a runaway train and ideas are coming in way faster than they're coming into my mind They're coming in and going and he'll go from one idea the next idea and people say yeah, he's rambling, but I'm like But is he?
00:42:31.000
Or is he just sort of like he's being infused with way more ideas than we are?
00:42:39.000
When you're talking to Elon, when I was talking to him, I was like, what is going on behind those eyes?
00:42:43.000
How many different thought processes do you have running simultaneously?
00:42:57.000
And I don't think you get it, and I don't think I get it.
00:43:01.000
I just rather Kanye keep all his shit in his music.
00:43:06.000
But he says, sometimes he says wild shit that's really interesting.
00:43:09.000
Like on my podcast he goes, how much is the earth?
00:43:12.000
Like if I wanted to buy the earth, how much does the earth cost?
00:43:17.000
He's like, if land costs money, could someone have enough money that could buy the whole earth?
00:43:22.000
Like that sounds ridiculous, but if someone like Jeff Bezos has like 200 billion dollars, like that's so much fucking money.
00:43:31.000
Like what's to stop someone from having 200 trillion and how much is the earth?
00:43:43.000
Also, if the earth for sale, who's selling it, motherfucker?
00:43:48.000
Someone would have to make every single person an impossible offer.
00:43:54.000
They'd have to make every single person an offer that you could not refuse.
00:43:57.000
That's so much money that every single person on the planet has to say yes.
00:44:00.000
I would think that that'll be a good investment, owning the earth.
00:44:04.000
Yeah, I think the only way someone's going to own the earth is stealing it.
00:44:07.000
They're just going to force eminent domain, force people out of air.
00:44:11.000
I don't think they're ever going to own the earth by buying it.
00:44:13.000
But Kanye having that idea, like, how much does the earth cost?
00:44:19.000
I hope he keep his wild ass ideas and thoughts there.
00:44:25.000
Sometimes dudes like that need somebody to bounce shit off of too.
00:44:28.000
They need a more reasonable crazy person that's with them that can go, slow down, brother.
00:44:35.000
With Elon Musk, I know people have their thoughts about him, but I had a very great personal conversation with him.
00:44:43.000
And I think people forget that these people that have all this money and these people that are so smart, these people that are on TV, they're human beings and they have real lives.
00:44:52.000
And me and Elon talked about his family and his children.
00:44:57.000
And that's when I was like, okay, this is a real person.
00:45:02.000
If you sit down and you have an actual conversation with him, just like off the record.
00:45:16.000
And you can forget that when you see some dude who's making rockets and making electric cars and satellites and fucking trying to fix traffic.
00:45:26.000
I also thought he was going to leave everybody at SNL or Tesla.
00:45:30.000
Because the host, they leave us gifts, slippers, shoes, hoodies.
00:45:35.000
Sometimes we'll come to work after that Saturday.
00:45:52.000
I think it would have been at the time when he came, I think it would have been 22 Teslas.
00:45:59.000
They probably have a back order on those things anyway.
00:46:01.000
Cars are, I don't know if they've sorted that out yet with new cars, but with new cars there was a backlog on new cars because of chips.
00:46:08.000
There's like a problem getting the chips, the computer chips, which are in every fucking car now.
00:46:14.000
Ah, is the computer chips the, like the, um, so you can know where the car is?
00:46:20.000
No, so the computer works with the emission system and everything is computerized now.
00:46:26.000
And then also there's an operating system that runs like Apple CarPlay, Android CarPlay.
00:46:37.000
I get that all that stuff is important, but it's confusing that we don't even make a lot of that shit over here.
00:46:45.000
A lot of the chips, they're making them overseas.
00:46:48.000
Yeah, so I think Elon's working on making chips here, and Samsung is working on making chips here, but I think a lot of that was exposed during the pandemic, that a lot of chips are being made overseas, and they need them for cars.
00:47:00.000
So there's a big delay for a lot of different manufacturers.
00:47:03.000
So probably a lot of them are looking at, trying to figure out a way, but...
00:47:07.000
I had Sagar and Crystal from Breaking Points on the other day, and Sagar was explaining it in depth, and he was saying that that shit takes like 10 years.
00:47:16.000
Like when you want to start a factory and start building computer chips in America, that's like 10 years from now you can.
00:47:25.000
Yeah, that's why I say technology confuses me, politics confuses me.
00:47:54.000
And I don't want to get in that room and then you offer me all kind of other shit.
00:48:02.000
And when I get in that office, I want it to still be that price.
00:48:10.000
No, Fargo is Steve Buscemi and it's a Coen Brothers movie.
00:48:21.000
I don't know why I'm seeing Ben Affleck in a suit.
00:48:24.000
But there's a hilarious scene where, what is the gentleman's name, the redheaded guy?
00:48:31.000
In this movie, he's trying to sell the undercarriage treatment.
00:48:35.000
Like, he's trying to sell it to these people, like, as an upgrade to the car, and they're like, we don't want that.
00:48:40.000
And then he's like, well, I already added it on.
00:48:43.000
And then there's like this big, like, why the fuck did you add it on?
00:48:51.000
Because there's so many of those salesmen that do that.
00:49:14.000
I mean, think about how long Jeep's been around for.
00:49:16.000
They nailed that shape so good, they don't even change it.
00:49:26.000
That's a real four-wheel drive vehicle you can drive anywhere.
00:49:38.000
I mean, when they first started making Jeeps, like, what year was that?
00:49:51.000
I mean, because it's a durable off-road vehicle, there's a lot of shit you don't have to worry about if you get a Jeep.
00:50:00.000
You can run over stupid shit that's in the road or bounce over a little divot in the ground.
00:50:07.000
That's why I'm like, I want all the warranties included in the note.
00:50:11.000
If I lived in the East Coast, for sure I'd have a Jeep.
00:50:19.000
You need some sort of a rugged four-wheel drive vehicle if you want to get through a winter there.
00:50:33.000
You know, I'm a Bronco fan, but I'm not a fan of the body of the new ones.
00:50:48.000
That one I used to bring to the store all the time.
00:50:57.000
I drove one and it sucked, but it wasn't the good one.
00:51:05.000
Well, go back to that link that you were just looking at and click on that one that says the Raptor.
00:51:21.000
So that's a regular Bronco with like a beefier setup and a heavy-duty engine.
00:51:28.000
I think that has like, what does that have for horsepower?
00:51:44.000
I don't want to over-exaggerate, but I think it's in the neighborhood of 500 horsepower.
00:52:07.000
It doesn't put up with SUVs that have horsepower in the 500. Oh, it doesn't put it up with SUVs.
00:52:13.000
Well, there's a bunch of people that do shit to those things, too.
00:52:17.000
But that's real similar to the V8, the big V8 that's in the Wrangler, too.
00:52:24.000
But the point is, like, those cars, that's a similar sort of thing.
00:52:27.000
The only thing is, like, the Jeep, you can't recklessly drive the Jeep.
00:52:33.000
You can't just be sitting up there spinning the curb and busting the whip.
00:52:40.000
Yeah, drive normal in your Jeep, because it reminds me of the Xterra, just like...
00:52:47.000
Imagine a sprinter van trying to do laps in a sprinter van, those ridiculous things.
00:53:02.000
Steve-O has a sprinter van that's set up as a podcast studio.
00:53:07.000
He travels around with it and just films his podcast in the back of it.
00:53:19.000
He used to do, like, cooking tutorials in his van.
00:53:25.000
He would have, like, a little, what do you call it?
00:53:30.000
Yeah, like a little hot pot or whatever you call that shit.
00:53:35.000
Yeah, like a little hot plate situation that you use for a dorm room and here I invite guests and we'll cook and we'll talk.
00:53:42.000
And you cook in the back of the van together and you talk about what you're cooking.
00:53:46.000
Then we both go sit in the driver's seat and passenger seat and we finish the podcast.
00:53:52.000
I'm like, Ron, this needs to be a television show.
00:53:55.000
I'm still trying to figure out why it ain't on TV right now.
00:53:59.000
Well, there's something cool about getting by with a limited resource.
00:54:13.000
I remember he made a big thing of meat sauce, spaghetti, broccoli.
00:54:26.000
Well, and then Burt has that show Something's Burning, which is a hilarious show.
00:54:39.000
So I'm guessing Burt be fucking everything up, huh?
00:54:52.000
I love that he's blowing up and he's 100% himself.
00:55:17.000
Steven Fury was opening up for him for a while, probably still doing it.
00:55:27.000
And he goes, I'm over here riding a motorcycle in Vietnam, filming my channel show.
00:55:31.000
And I go, dude, you need to quit that fucking show.
00:55:38.000
You're too funny, man, to be on a travel channel show.
00:55:40.000
I mean, it's a great gig, but I think you got everything out of it that you're ever going to get out of it.
00:55:46.000
You take months and months off of stand-up where you have to tour to travel and do this show.
00:55:51.000
It's a good show and it's a good gig, but you can do a lot better.
00:55:55.000
Like, you can do way better with stand-up and podcasts.
00:56:02.000
Yeah, it was back in the day when he was on Bert the Conqueror and there was another show where Hurt Bert was terrible.
00:56:11.000
Every episode people would choke him unconscious, hit him with a bat.
00:56:15.000
It was different stunts and things that he would do.
00:56:26.000
Physically, you get fucking hurt bad doing that.
00:56:32.000
I had Steve-O on and he showed a video once of him on a tree and lions climbed up the tree and were fucking with him.
00:56:42.000
And I was like, oh my god, those are real lions, dude.
00:56:54.000
I don't really like the zoo like talking about it.
00:57:01.000
And everybody can all surprise when things happen.
00:57:06.000
Because you're like, well, where do we put them?
00:57:09.000
And how do you make sure that they keep off the endangered species list?
00:57:22.000
Because when my kids were real little, I loved to take them to the zoo.
00:57:28.000
I mean, it's horrible that you're supporting this thing.
00:57:39.000
If I stand up and say, I'm not going to pay, it's still going to be there.
00:57:47.000
And this primate, I don't know what kind of monkey it was, but it was in its cage, and it was screaming like a crazy person in prison, like, NOOOOO! That's what it felt like.
00:57:59.000
And I told my wife, I was like, I go, this is depressing.
00:58:09.000
I honestly want, like, the way I envision my life, right?
00:58:15.000
Like, I want, if it was up to me, I would have a ranch in a town, a country town, where the next grocery store is 20-30 minutes out.
00:58:42.000
I wrote a sketch about hunting with Joe Rogan, okay?
00:58:46.000
Something happened that I had to shelf it that week, but it was a Thanksgiving sketch about hunting with Joe Rogan.
00:58:54.000
And it was you just like killing all of these exotic animals.
00:58:58.000
And we would just see these people in the woods who were kind of just like touring, not killing.
00:59:09.000
I wanted to get you down to like, but whatever, whatever.
00:59:16.000
Sketches are fun, but it'd be more fun to actually take you hunting for real.
00:59:25.000
My mother worked for the Levy District Police, and my father was actual NOPD. For a long time, he retired, and now he runs the security for the hospital because my mama made him go back to work.
01:00:14.000
He was like, the heavier it is, the better it is.
01:00:21.000
But you know, it's like, he always made sure we were responsible.
01:00:31.000
Don't use it, you know, for no validation in the hood.
01:00:34.000
We don't have guns for all of that in my family.
01:00:40.000
There's so many fucked up videos of people getting shot on Instagram now.
01:00:43.000
But I saw this one where these people were playing in a car and this girl pulls out her gun and accidentally shoots her friend in the head.
01:00:52.000
And he just like slumps over and dies like right on the street.
01:01:06.000
Even though it was an accident, you're going to jail.
01:01:12.000
It wasn't intentional, but you killed somebody.
01:01:15.000
My thing is, if you're gonna have a weapon, be responsible with it.
01:01:24.000
I was just thinking how ridiculous it was that Clint Eastwood had a movie where the star of the movie was that he had the biggest gun.
01:01:41.000
He might think, did I shoot all those bullets or did I not?
01:01:50.000
And it's a movie that, if you watch it now, it's so dated.
01:01:54.000
So go to the scene where Clint Eastwood says, do you feel lucky?
01:01:59.000
Where the guy is like, the guy's like a cartoonish bad guy.
01:02:05.000
And Clint Eastwood gives him this, do you feel lucky?
01:02:29.000
Well, to tell you the truth in all this excitement, I've kind of lost track myself.
01:02:34.000
But Ian, this is a.44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off.
01:03:14.000
He wanted to know whether or not he had the bullets?
01:03:32.000
In my mind, it was a Mexican dude and he shot him.
01:03:42.000
That dude probably spoke like Sidney Poitier and they gave him that role.
01:04:09.000
Go back to the beginning because I gotta hear him say it.
01:05:14.000
I haven't seen that movie in probably 20 years.
01:05:29.000
They need to do it now when he's a thousand years old.
01:05:36.000
Meanwhile, that dude also did The Unforgiven, which is like the greatest western of all time.
01:05:41.000
Like, he did a lot of corny-ass movies, but he also did some fucking amazing movies, man.
01:05:47.000
I gotta take some time and watch some old movies.
01:05:51.000
See, I just have this crazy obsession with two things that I watch over and over again.
01:06:00.000
I'll watch all of that and then I'll go back to Walking Dead.
01:06:06.000
I can't watch The Walking Dead more than once because I know what happens.
01:06:25.000
I'm gonna go ahead and say he says this in all of these movies.
01:06:53.000
Dudes who review the latest Steven Seagal movies.
01:07:00.000
I still maintain to this day, Above the Law is a great fucking action movie.
01:07:09.000
He lip synced to Guns N' Roses in a Clint Eastwood movie.
01:07:23.000
He looked like a bad motherfucker like I believed it I think it was like one of the most realistic Martial arts action films ever because he wasn't doing jump split kicks He was bashing people over the head with pool sticks and fucking breaking their arms and shit.
01:07:36.000
It was more realistic See, I can fuck with the martial arts.
01:07:54.000
So, I've been boxing going on for two years now.
01:08:09.000
Boxing, to me, a lot of people try to rush it, but it's all in your feet.
01:08:12.000
Everybody try to create power when the power's in your legs.
01:08:22.000
Look, I would watch boxing and I'm like, I could do that.
01:08:26.000
And then I get in there and I find out I'm goofy.
01:08:29.000
My feet don't do what my feet's supposed to do.
01:08:39.000
I had to get my feet together before I swung a punch.
01:08:44.000
I think that's the importance, but I want to learn some Wing Chun.
01:08:47.000
Wing Chun, it's interesting for blocking and stuff and trapping arms.
01:08:52.000
And there's a few moves that some guys do in MMA fights where it is really technically Wing Chun because they like block things and trap things and land shots over the top.
01:09:02.000
But if you're learning boxing, that's like the best thing you can learn in terms of like realistic self-defense with your hands.
01:09:08.000
Like, yeah, boxing is probably the best thing to learn.
01:09:16.000
The reason why I'm boxing now is because she never let me.
01:09:19.000
I remember I was in the sixth grade and I had a friend named, I think his name was Carl.
01:09:33.000
But I'm happy she said no, because I remember me and Tony Hinchcliffe was watching a fight.
01:09:38.000
I remember we was, it was like, I think it was right before COVID, actually.
01:09:51.000
Man, when I saw that, I think I called my mom and I was like, you was right.
01:09:55.000
You was right as I was growing up to not let me fight.
01:10:27.000
Something happened and sometimes it happens off a headbutt.
01:10:31.000
Like sometimes dudes accidentally collide heads and then your tissue rips and then the inside of your head fills up with blood.
01:10:42.000
Yeah, so it looks like it might have been like a little swollen already, and then he lands like a perfect punch.
01:10:48.000
If I remember this fight, it was like a crazy brawl.
01:10:51.000
Yeah, see like it looked like it was already a little swollen.
01:10:53.000
Like maybe they had collided heads or maybe another punch had done it.
01:11:08.000
That was just like, it turned her into like a character.
01:11:33.000
I was on a plane last night while the Grammys were on.
01:11:38.000
They're saying she looked like she had plastic surgery.
01:11:44.000
You know what I did see, though, that's hilarious?
01:11:47.000
Someone is doing this scene where they play the devil and they're dancing around and they have fire behind them and all these devils.
01:11:56.000
And then when it ends, it says, Brought to you by Pfizer.
01:12:26.000
The Grammys featured Sam Smith's demonic performance and was sponsored by Pfizer.
01:12:54.000
The Grammys featured Sam Smith's demonic performance and was sponsored by Pfizer and the satanic church now has an abortion clinic in New Mexico that requires its patients to perform a satanic ritual before services.
01:13:09.000
I feel like with this kind of shit, I feel like someone is playing 3D chess.
01:13:16.000
Like someone in the World Economic Forum, some fucking billionaire that's running the world is like, I know what I'm gonna do.
01:13:21.000
I'm gonna get these people fighting over gender and who should take a shit in what bathroom and the Satanists are running the pizza place.
01:13:29.000
I'm gonna get these people fighting over this while I institute some sort of a gigantic global social credit score system.
01:13:44.000
That's just straight random and surprising as fuck to me.
01:13:52.000
The fact that someone thought that was a good idea is hilarious.
01:13:57.000
They had to know that that guy was going to pretend to be the devil.
01:13:59.000
They had to know that all the Christians like her are going to go, Lynn, the satanic abortion clinic is going to...
01:14:08.000
I love when, like, Sam Smith and, uh, what's the other guy, uh, the black dude, uh, shit, I hate when I have these, uh, brain fucks.
01:14:18.000
Lil Nas X. Oh, he had the, he had the uptown road.
01:14:24.000
I love when they fuck with people, doing the devil shit, like, didn't he have, like, the devil's blood or some shit?
01:14:38.000
But he really did give the devil a lap dance in his music video.
01:14:45.000
It's like, don't you see he's doing this shit to, like, fuck with you?
01:14:53.000
I just want to sit on my ranch with my three rocks.
01:14:57.000
Right-wingers meltdown over satanic Pfizer-sponsored Grammys.
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Like we're being played against each other while these people are just finding ways to control us and control all the money.
01:15:22.000
I know that's a real commercial afterwards, but it just seems so stupid.
01:15:28.000
It's almost like if AI is real already, if artificial intelligence is real already and it's manipulating us, that's how it manipulates us.
01:15:39.000
Didn't they create these people that look like real people that aren't real people?
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We brought up some of them the other day where there was a few errors in some of the images where you could see that arms were in the wrong place, the wrong kind of...
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People's arms were detached from their body and shit.
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It'll be a person that's indistinguishable from a real person.
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It'll be on video talking to you, calling you up.
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We're going to do this and that and just love to see you again.
01:16:16.000
I have these feelings like this is a real person.
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Now, if I see one of them motherfuckers in person, that's a big problem.
01:16:28.000
See, this is why I like to stay my ass inside and mind my business.
01:16:34.000
I watch my little Grey's Anatomy on my Walking Dead, and I'll be with my bitch.
01:16:48.000
I think there's like one or two more generations of us, and then people are robots.
01:16:53.000
I just, I don't want to be around none of that shit.
01:17:02.000
There's gonna be robots knocking on your door trying to sell you insurance, and you're gonna be going, I don't fucking believe this.
01:17:07.000
And if you don't buy it, they're going to pull a gun out, a weapon out on your ass?
01:17:43.000
That's the thing you have to do with SNL, right?
01:17:45.000
You have to constantly be coming up ideas for sketches, huh?
01:17:48.000
Yeah, a lot of people don't get how, I think, mentally frustrating.
01:17:59.000
Ask me to write a pilot, I'll write you a pilot.
01:18:32.000
You're also a part of a group that includes Eddie Murphy, John Belushi, Gilda Radner, Dan Aykroyd.
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Every day I'm like, what the fuck are you doing here, bitch?
01:18:59.000
Do you just sit around and write things down when they come to you?
01:19:12.000
You can rest your mind if you want to, but you got to have something cooking and boiling inside of your brain about Sunday night.
01:19:18.000
So then Monday we go, we pitch, we meet the hosts, and then we pitch ideas.
01:19:36.000
If I have the strength, I'll call people and say, hey, you know what you got this week?
01:19:41.000
Let's figure out how to flush it out tomorrow, which is a Monday, right?
01:19:46.000
So Mondays we go to work just to meet the host and kind of just settle in.
01:19:53.000
Like if it was you, hey, Lauren, I say, Joe Rogan, everybody, we'll all go in his office.
01:19:57.000
His office is about this big, maybe a little smaller.
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And Lauren will say, we're going to start with you, Rosebud.
01:20:11.000
You are a man that has a vision of exotic coffee shops.
01:20:16.000
So you open up a coffee shop that's full of strippers and you call it tea search or some shit.
01:20:32.000
Look, I remember we went to work on Black History Day, on Martin Luther King Day.
01:20:39.000
And my pitch was, hey, Aubrey, you are the captain of the Holiday Police Department, and you come and fine Lorne Michaels for having all the black people at work on Martin Luther King Day.
01:20:53.000
Because I go in there and I say what everybody want to say.
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And then after that, you leave the pitch and you go.
01:21:04.000
You can either stay and talk in groups and figure out what you're going to do for Tuesday or you leave.
01:21:18.000
And then Wednesdays, you got to wake up at 8, go over your sketches with your writers, fix it.
01:21:24.000
Maybe you'll go back to sleep about 10.30, 11, sleep for 30 minutes, get back up, go to work until 11 p.m., 12 p.m.
01:21:32.000
If your sketch get picked, you know, because you got to produce it.
01:21:36.000
So also at this job, I'm learning how to produce, learning how to direct, learning how to make fast edits, because you got to pick your set, you got to pick the clothes that people are going to wear, you got to pick the outfits, you got to pick the wigs, you got to...
01:21:52.000
If you write the sketch and it get picked, you got to do it all.
01:21:55.000
Of course you have help, but you're learning the stuff.
01:21:59.000
Did you do any of that before you went to SNL? No.
01:22:04.000
I went to an acting school called the Actors Boot Camp, but that was that.
01:22:13.000
Well, I think acting class is probably in some ways a little bit like comedy class.
01:22:21.000
In terms of acting class, there's legitimate, real good places where people learn.
01:22:26.000
And then there's also acting lessons that are given by people that weren't really good actors.
01:22:30.000
They didn't really make it as an actor and they're teaching it.
01:22:33.000
I know a lot of people that'll teach you something because they've done it.
01:22:39.000
Like the comedy classes, they're not being taught by Dave Chappelle.
01:22:43.000
They're being taught by someone who's probably not that good at comedy, which is why they're teaching classes.
01:22:55.000
I, um, when I did get to SNL, a lot of people did go to school.
01:23:01.000
They went to, like, improv school, Second City, Groundlings, and all of that.
01:23:06.000
Because the moment I get to know people over there, I'm like, oh, y'all went to school.
01:23:11.000
I came from a little place with black walls called the Comedy Store.
01:23:22.000
And with that, that's me saying to myself, what are you doing?
01:23:28.000
Well, think about how young Eddie Murphy was when he was on SNL. And all his performance was stand-up.
01:23:38.000
The hardest thing is you're performing live for laughs in front of strangers all the time.
01:23:46.000
And you were going on after a bunch of murderers.
01:23:48.000
Anthony Jeselnik and Sebastian and all these killers.
01:23:52.000
And so by the time you're on stage, that show's three hours old.
01:24:01.000
Like Don Barris, you know, he loved that late night spot.
01:24:09.000
Then you meet this person, this crazy, psychotic human being who comes in the comedy store, who's a staple, okay?
01:24:17.000
And he's like, get up here and come spit in my mouth.
01:24:22.000
And then he got the band coming up, and people, it's not a real band.
01:24:26.000
He pressed play on this thing, and everybody's beating on chairs, and they got fake pianos, and you are rocking.
01:24:37.000
Now, he's rocking the house at 2, 3 in the morning until they say, all right, that's enough.
01:24:49.000
That late night spot, that was the Kinnison spot.
01:24:54.000
Kinnison became famous because people would, well, first of all, because he was so talented, and he did Letterman and HBO, but the thing in Hollywood was that people would know that Kinnison was going on after midnight.
01:25:05.000
So they would come to the store to see Kinnison, because he was on last.
01:25:10.000
And, you know, he would go as long as he wants.
01:25:12.000
You know, the last person goes as long as they want.
01:25:16.000
And Kinnison would go up and, you know, you'd have all these rock stars and movie stars go by and see him.
01:25:28.000
That's all I could think of when I first moved there.
01:25:30.000
And when I moved there, it was right after the wave.
01:25:33.000
Because comedy comes in these wild waves sometimes.
01:25:38.000
And I got there in 94. I went there for the first time in 93. And it was like a ghost town.
01:25:44.000
Like, I went in the OR and there was like a boat act on stage.
01:25:47.000
Like, someone who just should have stopped a long time ago.
01:25:50.000
They were doing, you know, jokes from the 1970s.
01:26:00.000
There was like 20 people in the audience and I sat in the back.
01:26:10.000
He left the Comedy Store and he got banned from the Comedy Store and then he kind of fell apart and then he died.
01:26:15.000
And then when I got there in 93, 94, there wasn't a lot of people that were big names that were there all the time.
01:26:23.000
Yeah, I heard when I got there they had like this, I think they called it like the Dark Ages or something, where it was just like super dark and it wasn't too busy.
01:26:32.000
No, it wasn't busy at all for a while in the early 90s.
01:26:36.000
But occasionally, like Martin Lawrence would come and then it would be flooded.
01:26:40.000
Occasionally someone big would come and they would go in the main room and it would be monstrous.
01:26:53.000
He would stop in, because he just wanted to fuck around.
01:26:58.000
So you'd see elite comedy, but it wasn't like it was in the 80s.
01:27:05.000
Slowly over time it built up, and then there was that new era that was in the 2000s, like 2014 on, that was like, fuck, every night was sold out.
01:27:15.000
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, two shows, three shows.
01:27:20.000
Constantly packed houses, moving in and out, and you'd see Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle and Louis C.K. and fucking Tim Dillon.
01:27:30.000
Yeah, my first night actually working now, I wasn't supposed to work.
01:27:38.000
They was like, yo, you mind just kind of expediting a little bit?
01:27:49.000
I'm like, oh, you want me to walk in the dark and look at a fucking map while I got a tray of drinks?
01:27:55.000
You just got to jump your ass in that water and swim.
01:27:58.000
If I'm not mistaken, it was freaking, was it Louis C.K. that night?
01:28:15.000
But after that, it was dead for like two years.
01:28:20.000
It would be like that if someone big would come.
01:28:23.000
If someone big would come, then it would build up again.
01:28:33.000
When I was a kid, in 1988, when I first did stand-up, I was at Stitches in Boston, and I remember thinking about the comedy store, like, that's Mecca.
01:28:53.000
I was an open-miker, and I was like, the Comedy Store, that's where Richard Pryor used to work out.
01:29:01.000
And I remember getting there and being like, this is the Comedy Store?
01:29:09.000
I kept going back, and then I saw Don Marrera there, and I saw all these other people.
01:29:13.000
Then I got there earlier in the day, and I realized if you get there at 9 o'clock, it's more packed.
01:29:17.000
I was showing up at 11, 11.30, after I'd gotten off of work on a sitcom.
01:29:22.000
Oh, I was about to say, where were you working?
01:29:31.000
And a bunch of other people that were mostly actors.
01:29:42.000
But I had already moved here and I already got an apartment so I stayed.
01:29:45.000
But the big thing to me was becoming a paid regular at the Comedy Store.
01:29:58.000
After everyone was already done, then I could go up.
01:30:08.000
I could be in her presence and she'd give me advice.
01:30:19.000
When she told me that I was a paid regular, it was the happiest day of my life.
01:30:26.000
Because when I became a paid regular, I had to showcase.
01:30:29.000
Did you have to showcase or did she just watch you for a period of time and then come to you and tell you?
01:30:35.000
I did my first set and she said I could be a non-paid regular.
01:30:39.000
And so I did that for, like I said, a few months.
01:30:41.000
And then I get to showcase again to be a paid regular and I had a great set.
01:30:46.000
And one of the reasons why I had a great set was this guy named The Todd.
01:30:51.000
And he was friends with Pauly Shore and he used to be...
01:30:59.000
Maybe it was like an open mic or when I saw him.
01:31:01.000
But I remember seeing that guy on TV and then being around him at the store.
01:31:06.000
And one of the things that he said, he said, I sat next to Mitzi when you went on stage and I laughed really hard at all your jokes.
01:31:12.000
Because you're really funny and I really want you to be a paid regular, but you're going to do that for other people someday too.
01:31:22.000
Like, if you could sit next to Mitzi, like, if she knew, like, if you're a legit comic and she knew that you respected the person on stage and that you wanted to see their set and that you laughed, Mitzi, you were, without telling Mitzi anything, you would co-sign.
01:31:43.000
Yeah, like, real bad where I don't even know if he's still alive.
01:31:47.000
But he came back to the store and there was something really wrong with him, unfortunately.
01:31:59.000
And there was an interesting moment for me because I was like, oh, that totally makes sense.
01:32:10.000
Yeah, I was about to say, he looks very, very familiar.
01:32:14.000
He was a guy that was one of the guys you would see on TV. He had a unique name.
01:32:27.000
Because, you know, like you said earlier, some people don't want to see you rise.
01:32:32.000
Well, some people, they just think they have a famine mentality.
01:32:36.000
They think that there's only so much success and so much love and so much positivity out there, and they want it all for themselves.
01:32:46.000
There were times when I had to hold myself accountable for being like that.
01:32:53.000
And one day I just sat down and I'm just like, yo, that ain't your lane.
01:33:00.000
So I had to really pull myself out of that and be like, yo, you know, your life is different from everybody else's life.
01:33:12.000
Once I got out of that stupid mentality, things really started.
01:33:16.000
And I put all that energy into really focusing on myself and my work.
01:33:19.000
Things really shifted in my life when I stopped worrying about what other people were doing and what they had.
01:33:26.000
Do you remember what happened to you or why you made that switch?
01:33:31.000
Well, I remember just saying to myself one day, that's a talented motherfucker.
01:33:38.000
And I would say to myself, If the only reason why you're upset is because it ain't you, That's a problem.
01:33:52.000
I used to feel like that when I was younger, and I recognized it in myself.
01:34:02.000
It doesn't do a thing for that person who's killing it.
01:34:05.000
And people think it does, and that's why they engage in it, because they think they're going to diminish them around other people, talk shit about them around other people.
01:34:13.000
I've had to have conversations with my friends about that.
01:34:16.000
I'm like, hey man, that guy's a talented motherfucker and you're being a bitch.
01:34:21.000
You feel like you deserve more and you haven't gotten yours, but you're not on that guy's path.
01:34:29.000
It's just like we have to recognize what it is.
01:34:46.000
Also, just recognize what it is and don't commit to it because you don't want to have been wrong or you want to defend yourself.
01:34:59.000
And if you have this jealous idea in your head, don't be married to that.
01:35:09.000
You see someone, especially in the beginning, because you're just trying to make it.
01:35:15.000
You can't wait to go on stage, and you see someone on stage bombing.
01:35:23.000
When I was coming up at the store, and before I was a paid regular, if I would do the friends and family portion, I would be happy that I was going after someone who I knew weren't as good as me.
01:35:37.000
And then my life started to change again when I started saying, no, fuck that.
01:35:42.000
I want the person in front of me to be dope as fuck.
01:35:46.000
So even at SNL in a pitch meeting, I go after this guy who always light the room up with a pitch.
01:35:53.000
And I went up to him and I'm like, bro, you make me better because I know I got to come.
01:35:57.000
If I go after you in that meeting, I know I got to come hard.
01:36:00.000
So you are fueling me to keep the energy of the room when you go and then I have to go after you because I don't want to bring it down.
01:36:08.000
So he's making me work harder, but not in like this, like I'm not envious of him.
01:36:15.000
He's helping me and I like his help by him just being himself.
01:36:22.000
So once I changed that mentality of I want the best person in the room to be before me, that's when I started getting better as well.
01:36:36.000
That's when I started being more prepared as well.
01:36:39.000
That's when my preparation changed to going on stages, too.
01:36:45.000
I need to be a little bit more organized on stage.
01:36:48.000
I need to make sure I keep it nice and tight because I want to keep the energy in the room.
01:36:54.000
It also makes you rise up to that person's RPMs.
01:37:00.000
You would be working with all these killers and you couldn't be lazy.
01:37:05.000
One thing that comedians like to do is they like to bring someone on the road with them that's soft.
01:37:11.000
So that person just sort of like goes up and does like a passable job and then they can go up and clean up like a hero.
01:37:17.000
But my thought was like, A, that's not helping me at all and B, that's not good for the audience.
01:37:21.000
So I would just bring the most murderous, ruthless comics that I could find.
01:37:26.000
I started working with Joey because I couldn't follow him.
01:37:28.000
I brought Joey on the road with me because I had trouble following him once in New Jersey.
01:37:32.000
I'm like, I'm bringing Joey on the road everywhere.
01:37:35.000
Joey, when he came into his own, there was a time in the late 90s where Joey came into his own.
01:37:45.000
Because he had decided that Hollywood was never going to give him any love.
01:37:48.000
And so he was just – all he wanted was the respect of the comics and to kill.
01:37:53.000
And he was just always on fire, always on fire.
01:37:58.000
It's like, how are you going to compete with that?
01:38:02.000
And so – Taking him on the road with me made me sharper.
01:38:08.000
And then, by the way, after a while, people knew who he was.
01:38:15.000
And then they would see him go on stage and they would get excited.
01:38:20.000
Or it was Joey Diaz from the JRE or Joey Diaz from the Church of What's Happening Now.
01:38:24.000
And then it became, you know, now he's an icon.
01:38:38.000
And he was, in a lot of ways, his irreverence, his ability to just cut loose on stage, Showed all of us.
01:38:52.000
I've seen moments on stage where Joey murdered so hard.
01:39:05.000
People still have never seen Joey the way we've seen Joey.
01:39:09.000
Joe would be up there killing himself laughing.
01:39:14.000
But his delivery is so point on and so straightforward.
01:39:29.000
And God help you if you see him in front of a Cuban audience.
01:39:33.000
Because then he starts throwing in some Spanish and some Cuban flavored Spanish in with his jokes and oh my god.
01:39:40.000
I've seen him at the Miami Improv back in the day.
01:39:42.000
Murdered to the point where the headliner quit.
01:39:46.000
Joey was middling and the headliner said, I quit.
01:40:01.000
First show Friday, they're like, check, please.
01:40:07.000
Because people, when you go on the road for a week, say you show up at Tampa, you expect you're going to get some local Tampa comedian, some soft touch who's going to be up there.
01:40:18.000
No disrespect to local Tampa comedians, but it's not the strongest comedy scene.
01:40:22.000
So the odds are, if someone's working for you as an opener, In Tampa.
01:40:33.000
I got my fucking closer bit and it's gonna kill.
01:40:37.000
You see Joey Diaz on stage and literally tables are falling over.
01:40:54.000
I probably still would have went up there and took my little bomb.
01:41:10.000
There was a lot of partying going on, if you know what I mean.
01:41:18.000
But it was also like, there was some spots that you would go to and you're like, that club's crazy.
01:41:43.000
I'm happy to be here because I know a lot of my people out here too.
01:41:47.000
Well, that's why I'm happy you're doing Kill Tony tonight.
01:42:09.000
Like, the way he handles Kill Tony, how quick he is off the cuff.
01:42:14.000
I remember seeing him at the comedy store before he was, you know, Kill Tony.
01:42:19.000
And if I'm not mistaken, he was working at the time.
01:42:21.000
And I remember just seeing him in, you know, the room between the service bar and the back bar?
01:42:32.000
He had a drink and he was just kind of just in his head.
01:42:35.000
And I had a tray and I looked at him and I said, you okay?
01:42:46.000
He's like, he thinks he's in the WWE. He's so out of his fucking mind.
01:42:51.000
He thinks Vince McMahon's waiting there with a camera.
01:43:02.000
He started off in a belly room, moved it into the main room.
01:43:12.000
It's such a good idea to have comics go up and do one minute.
01:43:17.000
And then you have regulars like William Montgomery, Hans Kim, David Lucas.
01:43:26.000
And so many times, like David is very prolific.
01:43:29.000
And so many times David will take that bit and then he'll be doing it like when he works with me all the time.
01:43:34.000
So David and I are doing shows like most Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
01:43:37.000
And so he'll take these bits from one minute and now all of a sudden he's got a whole new giant one minute chunk.
01:43:44.000
And that's a part of his regular act now because of this one minute a week thing.
01:43:48.000
It's an incredible resource for like up and coming comedians and Hans Kim is doing that too.
01:44:02.000
I can't wait to do a Kill Tony tonight because I'm going to say roast me.
01:44:09.000
David and Tony, when those two are roasting each other, it's the hardest I laugh in life.
01:44:16.000
I was literally wheezing while these two were going back and forth with each other.
01:44:21.000
He just sold out a theater, his first theater, David.
01:44:34.000
And we'll do two, three shows a week together out here.
01:44:37.000
And Hans Kim's doing the same thing, and Bryan Simpson's out here killing it.
01:44:47.000
Some of my homegirls just hit me up about Segura.
01:44:57.000
They're like, when he started looking like this?
01:45:03.000
Him and Bert had this weight loss challenge, and this was like, how many years ago was that?
01:45:23.000
There's a picture of him, go back to his Instagram, of him sitting down eating ice cream.
01:45:37.000
He's like, he works out twice a day, every day.
01:45:42.000
He has a trainer that he brings with him on the road, and he's constantly working out.
01:45:46.000
He has a sled that he pulls in his driveway, and I'm watching all this shit, and I'm like, this is insane.
01:45:53.000
Well, I'm trying to get to where I can afford to bring my trainer with me everywhere I go.
01:46:04.000
I moved out to Jersey, got my boy Baron with me, and he teached me everything.
01:46:09.000
He also like, look, don't be out here getting in fights because you could really swing now.
01:46:14.000
Yeah, don't hurt anybody, especially now that you have money.
01:46:16.000
He's like, back, he's like, just always walk away.
01:46:19.000
Because I don't, I didn't realize, I do have a lot of power.
01:46:21.000
Sometimes I do this to somebody, just because I'm like, you're so stupid.
01:46:27.000
And I'll be like, my bad, I didn't mean to do that.
01:46:31.000
But if I want to get to a level of having enough money to take my trainer, you work for me and only me, with me, forever.
01:46:50.000
I've never gone that far where I take a trainer with me on the road.
01:46:54.000
Well, I mean, if I go out on the road Friday said to come back home, then no.
01:46:57.000
But if I'm like, if life is constantly on the road week by week for me, I'ma need them.
01:47:02.000
The problem with that is like, it's great for sure, but I need alone time.
01:47:09.000
When I work out, I like to put AirPods on, so I listen to music.
01:47:18.000
I don't want anybody telling me what we're doing next.
01:47:26.000
But there's a great benefit to having a trainer, no doubt.
01:47:28.000
But for me, what I get out of it personally, I've definitely worked with trainers before, and I love what I've learned from them, but I like that time where it's just me struggling in my own head.
01:47:44.000
And when I do it, I set it out, I write out what I'm going to do, figure it out in my head, and that way I'm just in my own head.
01:47:51.000
I don't talk to anybody, I don't look at my phone.
01:47:59.000
I do a lot of kettlebell stuff, and I do a lot of bodyweight stuff.
01:48:20.000
You do your arms and your legs at the same time.
01:48:28.000
So you do 20-second sprints with 10-second rests, and I do that for eight reps, and I do that for 10 repetitions.
01:48:34.000
So I do 10 rounds of 20-second sprint, 10-second rest, 20-second sprint.
01:48:39.000
Do that eight times, get my heart rate down below 100, and then do it again.
01:48:54.000
Then I do rounds in the bag and I do other stuff for cardio.
01:49:09.000
Sometimes if I get depressed, I just stop everything.
01:49:14.000
If I get back in the gym and get on that bag, I shred so fast and so hard.
01:49:19.000
Within three weeks, I'm like 10, 12 pounds down off the bag.
01:49:26.000
If you wear a chest strap, one of those straps that measures the amount of calories you're burning, you're burning a shitload of calories hitting the bag.
01:49:33.000
There's so much movement, so your heart rate is jacked.
01:49:38.000
My trainer's like, look, if you ever go to a boxing gym without me, you have to go to every bag.
01:49:53.000
Also, they have these round timers that'll let you do the same kind of thing, like sprints and then rest periods.
01:50:07.000
And you had like a green light and a yellow light and then a red light.
01:50:21.000
And then the yellow light would come on and then you would just sort of tap it and move around.
01:50:25.000
And you would just kind of catch your breath back up.
01:50:28.000
And then the green light would come back on you.
01:50:38.000
So basically, that'll be like each light be a minute, I'm guessing, right?
01:50:52.000
I think the round thing would go to as much as five minutes and you could choose the intervals.
01:51:00.000
I don't know if my trainer be gassing me up, man.
01:51:07.000
I think I'm going to get you somebody to spar with.
01:51:31.000
I don't know what you call it, but they got handles on it, and I'll just do these little lunges that shreds you all in your bag and stuff.
01:51:42.000
You have to adjust to the movement of the water.
01:51:53.000
It almost looks like a weapon, and you're swinging them above your head, and it's all about controlling this awkward weight.
01:52:03.000
No, I usually just do that with the heavy ball.
01:52:10.000
You could do a bunch of shit like that with a medicine ball.
01:52:12.000
But the thing about clubs and maces is that it's awkward.
01:52:16.000
So there's this long metal piece with a mace, and then at the end of it is the weight.
01:52:23.000
It's all this leverage, and you're swinging it around.
01:52:26.000
It's really good for your shoulders and your core.
01:52:38.000
Like whenever I work out, before I do anything, my brain is ahead of me.
01:52:49.000
And my girlfriend, she's a little thick one, right?
01:52:54.000
And one time, I don't know what happened, like she came to sit on top of me on the sofa and I stood up.
01:53:00.000
I like walked up to the kitchen and she was like, what the fuck?
01:53:23.000
You know, because, you know, I got to do a lot of leg work, you know?
01:53:32.000
I do 100 push-ups a day every day, straight up.
01:53:45.000
This guy did this play one time, maybe 15 years ago, and this guy was like, all right, time for me to get my push-ups in.
01:53:55.000
What's the world record for the amount of push-ups someone's ever done in a row?
01:54:01.000
Because I would imagine it would be close to the world record.
01:54:04.000
Like how many push-ups can someone do before their arms fall apart?
01:54:09.000
I guess it also would depend on how heavy the person is too.
01:54:12.000
You know, like if you're a heavy person, that's a big, you know, if you're Burt Kreischer.
01:54:18.000
It's called like the Top 100 or something like that.
01:54:20.000
And it's just like all these guys and girls, ladies and men from...
01:54:32.000
But they go into this room and it's like whoever's stronger and whoever's...
01:54:40.000
They had this one competition where a guy was competing against a woman and he had his knee on her chest.
01:55:04.000
There's a video that says why that's probably fake, so I was trying to find another number while you were saying something.
01:55:09.000
She brought up the show that I was trying to then get an answer for, so...
01:55:15.000
Physical 100. Man, this show got me on the end.
01:55:19.000
It got its slow parts because it got to do a lot of introductions and a lot of things.
01:55:42.000
He's a world famous MMA fighter that fought in Pride.
01:55:46.000
They call him Sexy Yama because he's like super tan and super jacked.
01:55:56.000
This is this physical 100. Oh, it's Squid Games.
01:56:10.000
So it's like you don't have to be the strongest or the fastest.
01:56:16.000
Like whoever has the ball at the end of three minutes is the champion.
01:56:25.000
So they're duking it out for this fucking ball.
01:56:44.000
Well, the thing is, now that is going to be a team thing.
01:56:47.000
So everybody is thinking, okay, we have to have all strong people.
01:56:51.000
But some of these, you're going to have to have some light people so they can get across bridges and stuff.
01:57:06.000
And sometimes the biggest and the strongest lose because they didn't have a game plan going into the event.
01:57:16.000
Well, also, they probably don't have to be as crafty because they're big and strong and they think they're just going to get away with that.
01:57:20.000
And then they find out, oh, no, this is like some shit where I have to hang by my hands longer than the other person.
01:57:25.000
That's crazy you say that because that was the first challenge.
01:57:29.000
On Fear Factor, girls can hang longer than guys can.
01:57:32.000
We had these jacked dudes and they had to hang off of this bar over a bridge.
01:57:36.000
And the jacked dudes all fell before the women.
01:57:44.000
Some of them just got comfortable up there, just like holding the bar like this.
01:57:49.000
But they got gymnasts up there that's still in the game and still winning and stuff.
01:57:54.000
See if you can find a video of Akiyama fighting.
01:58:00.000
What's the funniest interview you ever did in the UFC? Yeah, like the funniest.
01:58:08.000
And I go, Derek, why'd you take your pants off?
01:58:14.000
Take his shorts off in the middle of the ring after he won.
01:58:28.000
He used to fight with the gi on, but he fought with no gi.
01:58:48.000
And Melvin Manhoff, the guy who he just beat, was one of the greatest strikers that ever fought in MMA. One of the scariest motherfuckers.
01:58:59.000
So when Sexy Yama submitted him, that was a big deal.
01:59:08.000
That's the guy in the background when you see his face.
01:59:11.000
He had the big head and the other people in front of him.
01:59:15.000
Yeah, so he must be the host of it or something, right?
01:59:45.000
When the UFC purchased Pride, I think in like 2000, what was that?
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So 2009, the UFC bought and brought in Akiyama.
02:00:20.000
Well, you can tell because everybody has a massive amount of respect for him on the show when they speak of him.
02:00:29.000
And then the first battle, half of them were eliminated.
02:00:33.000
So now another half is about to be eliminated by tomorrow with the sand.
02:00:39.000
Now the sand is very strategic because you've got to fill this bag of sand, walk across the bridge, and empty it into a tube.
02:00:46.000
And whoever had the most in 12 minutes is going to win.
02:00:50.000
Yeah, there's other fighters and stuff on it too.
02:01:02.000
He fought in one championship, I want to say, within the last three years.
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He had all of that background of just being exquisite at what he does.
02:01:20.000
Because they do interviews and stuff, and he's just sitting up there like, I don't know, man.
02:01:31.000
I'd rather them just have the subtitles, honestly, because the English voiceovers are so weird.
02:01:40.000
And he's like, I don't know, man, maybe I made the wrong choice.
02:01:43.000
He's so humble in the way he goes into his competitions.
02:01:48.000
You know, in the early Bruce Lee movies, they had someone do his voice.
02:01:52.000
If you watch the early Bruce Lee movies, someone is talking like this.
02:01:57.000
Hey, guys, we have to go down there and fix this problem.
02:02:02.000
Because every time I watch the Ip Man movies, I'd rather them leave it, leave just his Chinese accent than have the American guy.
02:02:15.000
Because you want to hear the inflection in their voice.
02:02:18.000
When someone is talking over them like this, that seems crazy.
02:02:40.000
They're mostly fake people just re-uploading them.
02:02:46.000
Right, Bruce Lee had his voice dubbed in early movies.
02:02:54.000
Maybe, but I think the early movies, there's like some pretty obvious examples.
02:03:09.000
There's a lot of different voiceover dubs that he does.
02:03:13.000
But that was a thing with Kung Fu movies, right?
02:03:26.000
Just give me the real people and let me read the shit.
02:03:29.000
There's a new show that's on Netflix right now.
02:03:47.000
By this time, he might have been talking in his own voice.
02:03:53.000
But I don't think Bruce is going to do much talking.
02:04:00.000
I remember hearing those noises going, what is this?
02:04:05.000
If you think about karate movies, people just do karate.
02:04:22.000
This dude, out of nowhere, throwing karate kicks and doing jujitsu and judo and mixing them all together.
02:04:34.000
Before the UFC came along, that was the first guy that combined things.
02:04:38.000
He was the one who kind of opened the door for the UFC in a lot of ways.
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I got to figure out when and how, but I got to get there.
02:04:55.000
And also, again, if I'm not mistaken, I think it was created by a woman.
02:05:07.000
I just want to learn how to be lighter on my feet.
02:05:17.000
There's a ton of guys on Instagram that are boxing coaches that set up those footwork ladders.
02:05:24.000
And, you know, you go in and out with the feet and do plyometrics where you jump like ski moves side to side and side to side.
02:05:34.000
When I'm on a road and I don't have my trainer, I'll plug in Sean T. I got his yearly Beachbody program.
02:05:52.000
And he does have a plyometric workout on there, too, that uses the ladder.
02:06:09.000
Because you've got to think about all that time you're just bouncing on your toes.
02:06:13.000
A lot of times in your boxing, you're flat-footed.
02:06:16.000
Or you're moving, but you're not moving constantly over and over and over again.
02:06:19.000
But if you have the ability to do that, so if you're skipping rope and you skip rope for 10 minutes, and you're moving your feet back and forth, that's 10 minutes that you're forcing yourself to bounce up and down on your calves and on the ball of your feet because you have to jump over that rope,
02:06:35.000
So when you're doing that, you're energizing those muscles, strengthening those muscles, and then conditioning your body to be able to move like that.
02:06:51.000
I need to start doing the things that I don't want to do.
02:07:07.000
Shadowboxing moving, pretending a punch is coming your way, getting out of the way of it, landing your own shots, pivoting away, like that.
02:07:18.000
I got two pound weights in my office at SNL, and we get to have friends come on Saturdays, and my friend came, he saw the weights.
02:07:26.000
He said, man, what you doing with this motherfucking two pounds?
02:07:30.000
Nah, you punk, you full of shit, you ain't doing nothing.
02:07:32.000
I'm like, I shadowbox if you ought to know with the two pounds.
02:07:37.000
Just, I'll do, like, if I'm in my office, I'll put on a movie or something until it's my time to go down to set, and I'll just sit in my office and I'll shadowbox for a I'll go do a round.
02:07:51.000
Sometimes I'll do four or five rounds before I go downstairs.
02:07:56.000
And I also have to be like, sorry if I stink off.
02:08:02.000
If there was a pill that could make you feel like you feel after you work out, everybody would take it.
02:08:12.000
But it gives you the effect of the perfect mixture of like a relieving of anxiety, a strengthening of all your connections, you feel yourself more.
02:08:22.000
And if you've got to be like physical, like I love a good workout before a set because you know you work out and then you kind of like blow the anxiety out of your system and you feel loose.
02:08:43.000
I had to teach people that Joey's not really mad at you.
02:08:47.000
Like, what are you motherfuckers with your phones?
02:08:51.000
And Brian Redband would be like, why is Joey mad?
02:09:03.000
But yeah, I think I'm going to get in the ring with somebody soon.
02:09:13.000
He's like, if you don't keep your hands up, I'm going to sneak you.
02:09:18.000
And I know a real punch hurt because he don't even hit me for real.
02:09:37.000
Well, I also know how to stick and fucking move.
02:09:46.000
You know, I'm not saying I ain't never gonna get hit, but I know how to get out the way.
02:09:50.000
For my money, Floyd Mayweather is the best ever.
02:09:58.000
A lot of people don't like it because he is not aggressive in the ring.
02:10:03.000
He's exactly the right amount of aggressive to win.
02:10:06.000
He ain't coming at you like a fucking train, like Mike Tyson.
02:10:13.000
But I mean, when people say that, they don't understand what the fuck they're talking about.
02:10:22.000
You know, he's fighting like the greatest boxers of all time.
02:10:34.000
Man, look, if I'm him, I'm in the best shape of my life, I'm moving around, you ain't never going to be able to catch me in that ring.
02:10:39.000
I'm never going to stand in front of your face.
02:10:43.000
The thing that's crazy about Floyd is he does stand right in front of your face.
02:10:46.000
He stands right in front of your face and you still can't hit him.
02:10:52.000
Right, because a lot of people are really good defensive fighters like Willy Pep.
02:10:55.000
Everybody always talks about Willy Pep and Willy Pep was amazing.
02:11:10.000
Whereas Floyd will stand right in front of you and he just like scoots just out of the way and then he's right in front of you again.
02:11:17.000
You watch some of the videos of him when he fought Canelo.
02:11:27.000
You think you can because he ain't got his gloves on his face.
02:11:34.000
I'm like, yo, he makes me nervous because I'm like, put your hands up.
02:11:39.000
I mean, it's just because he knows how to do it so well that he's luring people in to try to hit him.
02:11:45.000
It looks like openings are there where they're not.
02:12:01.000
He's so different than anybody else because he doesn't throw a lot of punches.
02:12:05.000
He, like, measures you until he finds out where you're open, and then once he finds out where you're open, you're fucked.
02:12:16.000
I thought that was going to be a close one, but it wasn't.
02:12:19.000
Well, it was close for a little bit because Tank fights like that.
02:12:26.000
He throws the least amount of punches in the early rounds of any of the champions.
02:12:30.000
But then once he figures you out, once he sizes you up, once he finds out where your holes are and gets that timing in, it's like he's got a boxing computer in his brain.
02:12:44.000
And also with him, I like his, I like how humble he is as well.
02:12:50.000
He's also like, he like this, I don't know how to describe it.
02:12:54.000
Like he knows that he can fight, but he ain't got to, he's like one of those guys, he ain't got to say it.
02:12:58.000
You know, like I would watch him in his interviews after the fight and he ain't saying, yeah, I told that motherfucker I was going, he ain't like that.
02:13:10.000
You know, I ain't never gonna stop learning in this game.
02:13:13.000
He ain't even stunting about making a man go blind in the ring.
02:13:22.000
And there's a group of guys that are in his level right now, like Shakur Stevenson and this elite level.
02:13:34.000
That guy's got the fastest left hook I've ever seen.
02:13:38.000
I will say, I'm nervous about that one for Tank.
02:14:03.000
And it's so crazy, too, because I thought that my hook would be...
02:14:21.000
But you fight with your left hand forward or your right hand forward?
02:14:31.000
I thought that my right hand was the strongest.
02:15:00.000
And as he was charging at me, I did this to him.
02:15:04.000
If you would have did this, then you would have been...
02:15:07.000
Right, because you were trying to set him up for a big left hand.
02:15:14.000
We know a lot of fighters, they would fight southpaw even though they were right-handed.
02:15:19.000
He's right-handed, but he would fight southpaw, so his strong hand would be forward.
02:15:25.000
Emmanuel Stewart did that with a lot of people.
02:15:27.000
He took guys that were natural right-handed and he put them in a southpaw stance.
02:15:32.000
Also, if you're learning from a southpaw stance, you have an advantage that most people fight orthodox.
02:15:37.000
So when you're fighting, it gives people a very...
02:15:40.000
When you fight someone who's a southpaw, it's confusing when you're boxing.
02:15:45.000
So if you're not used to it, like in the early days of boxing...
02:15:48.000
But then the best guys are guys like Terrence Crawford, who could just switch.
02:15:54.000
They could fight you southpaw, they could fight you orthodox, and you're like, oh Jesus.
02:15:57.000
You don't know where the fuck punches are coming from.
02:16:01.000
Yeah, that's why you gotta learn how to stick and move.
02:16:26.000
It was very rare in Hagler's day that an elite world champion would switch stances so effortlessly.
02:16:34.000
But now you got like Terrence Crawford does it.
02:16:43.000
If you can learn how to do things from your left side, it actually shows you how to do things better from your right side, weirdly enough.
02:16:50.000
I'm still learning how to write with my right hand.
02:16:58.000
I had to learn how to write and draw with my left hand.
02:17:00.000
I mean, I think I can, but it's going to be awful.
02:17:05.000
But you have to teach your hand how to do it, which is so interesting.
02:17:08.000
Because you would think if your left hand does it so well, you would just tell your right hand to do it.
02:17:22.000
You know, crazily, when I was growing up, I got bullied for being left-handed.
02:17:34.000
They would tell left-handed people to not use their left hand back in the day.
02:17:39.000
Now, I heard about that, but when I was in school, they didn't do that to me.
02:17:50.000
Because I hate boxing sometimes and watching myself because I'm so goofy.
02:17:58.000
You know, I'm trying to get them to stay straight.
02:18:04.000
But I look so goofy when I'm boxing because I hurt my niece playing soccer...
02:18:08.000
When I was in college, I was, I don't know how to play soccer, but I was, you know, playing and I went to do a power kick and this person blocked me.
02:18:17.000
So my body went one way and my leg went the other way.
02:18:20.000
So I just look goofy when I'm boxing, but I might use that as an advantage.
02:18:27.000
They were like, look at this goofy footed bitch.
02:18:40.000
Because you're saying, you're like painting scenarios where people underestimate you and you fuck them up.
02:19:07.000
Do you think, like, how much time would you need to prepare for something like that?
02:19:22.000
If I could do, if I can just, like, box six days a week for...
02:19:41.000
I would like to fight my peers, the people that I love.
02:19:47.000
Just because it's fun, which is, you know, just like messing around like kids, you know, just messing around with my partners and shit.
02:19:53.000
But I do be thinking about starting beef with people just to like...
02:20:00.000
Especially now that you're on TV. Look, I see...
02:20:10.000
So, Mikey Davey making fun of me because I get everybody names wrong.
02:20:15.000
There's entire videos of him saying people's names wrong.
02:20:58.000
She had the most vicious one-punch KO in women's boxing.
02:21:09.000
That was, I mean, they had talked to a gang of shit before that fight.
02:21:12.000
And unfortunately, she talked a gang of shit to the wrong lady.
02:21:15.000
Because, you know, Ann Wolfe had, like, legit one-punch KO power.
02:21:42.000
I mean, it's like one of the greatest one-punch KOs of all time.
02:21:52.000
Because my problem is, I start doing too much arm work, I'll get jacked.
02:22:01.000
Because if I cut it all off, I'm going to look like a man.
02:22:08.000
I had to chill out for a second because I don't want to get that jacked.
02:22:17.000
I mean, that's like months and months of training camp.
02:22:24.000
And she was one of the rare, like, female boxers that had so many guys respect that she was training men.
02:22:33.000
I mean, the men that were willing to do her routine.
02:22:36.000
But the thing is, like, Kirkland, I don't think he wanted her to do what she wanted him to do.
02:22:44.000
See if you can find Anne Wolfe's strength and conditioning James Kirkland.
02:22:51.000
I gotta get to LA. See, because there was like these strength and training routines that she would put fighters through.
02:22:57.000
Like they did not want to do what she wanted to do.
02:23:07.000
She had a no tolerance for bullshit policy when it came to training.
02:23:12.000
I want to, they have this lady, Coach Cam, out in Los Angeles.
02:23:26.000
Kirkland at one point in time was a top flight professional and she was his trainer.
02:23:35.000
He was the recipient of one of Canelo's most impressive KOs.
02:23:52.000
Against Dimitri Bivol, well, he won his last fight against Triple G, but the Bivol fight, Bivol's another weight class.
02:24:00.000
Just the fact that he decided to go up to 175 and fight the best at 175, fight one of the champions.
02:24:46.000
That's interesting that they announced it in November, but I'm just hearing about it now.
02:24:51.000
Maybe there was negotiations that fell through.
02:24:54.000
But I think Canelo had to get surgery on his wrist.
02:24:59.000
He tore something on his wrist in the Triple G fight, maybe even in camp.
02:25:36.000
I gotta hit tequila up, especially Casadoras Reposada.
02:25:48.000
Because I already have my little slogan and everything for them.
02:25:58.000
Well, I'm glad you documented on this show so they can't snatch that.
02:26:32.000
The only reason why, not taste-wise, because I would love to sip me a good whiskey or a good cognac, but I get a little crazy.
02:26:45.000
I always wonder if there's any science to that.
02:26:49.000
Well, if I drink vodka, I could get a little mean.
02:27:09.000
I think shootouts, Clint Eastwood movies, corks.
02:27:31.000
I just, for whatever reason, gin and tonic seems like something I would drink before I die.
02:27:41.000
You know, I'd be like playing bridge with my neighbor.
02:27:50.000
Back in the suffering days, everybody had syphilis.
02:27:57.000
Well, you know, some people believe that psychedelics in particular, that every time you engage in it, you're not just engaging in this one individual experience, but you're sharing the experiences of everyone who's ever done those psychedelics.
02:28:31.000
Or vodka or whiskey, which would make sense with why people get wild with whiskey.
02:28:36.000
If you think about all the Kentucky bourbon that was made in this country where people were fucking shooting Indians and just train robberies, fucking shooting buffaloes.
02:28:44.000
I mean, whiskey has probably had some of the most violent, fucked up experiences in this country attached to it.
02:29:01.000
You're gonna wake up in the middle of a shootout with the cops.
02:29:10.000
I'm divorced now, but I almost lost my wife when I was married when I was drinking Moonshine.
02:29:20.000
What if, like, when you take in a substance, you're not just taking in that substance, but you're taking in the body of all the other people that have had that experience on that substance and you're sharing some weird vibe?
02:29:35.000
I mean, I'm considering that it can be a factor.
02:29:40.000
I've thought about it before with mushrooms, and I've thought about it before with psychedelics.
02:29:47.000
Like, when you're doing them, like, maybe that is part of what's going on here.
02:29:51.000
Maybe everyone who's ever had this experience leaves something in there.
02:30:03.000
I don't like when I can't control what I'm doing.
02:30:06.000
And I feel like that's something that you can't control because I've heard people that's done it.
02:30:12.000
But while they're dealing with it and going through it, they can't control what's happening to them.
02:30:19.000
You can't control DMT. You can't control mushrooms either.
02:30:21.000
And when you try to, that's when you have the bad trips.
02:30:25.000
I want to do it so much because I feel like just when you cross over to the other side of that, it's just this peace that you, this inner peace that you have within yourself that I think it might be worth it to do it.
02:30:41.000
What if you do it and you don't want to box anymore?
02:30:49.000
No, if that's the case, I ain't never doing that shit.
02:31:04.000
I've only done DMT, but I'm scheduled to do it.
02:31:13.000
Somebody asked me to do something like that with mushrooms.
02:31:17.000
Well, for yourself, because I do want to see me trip.
02:31:20.000
But you don't even want to know a camera's there.
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You don't want to be thinking about any other thing.
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You want to get the most out of the experience, at least me personally.
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And I feel like if you're filming it, you're going to be aware that there's cameras.
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Part of psychedelics that's very important is set and setting.
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Some people think that whenever you take certain psychedelics, like sacred psychedelics, like psilocybin for instance, you should have...
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A very peaceful setting, and you should set it up correctly, and you should also get your mind into a good place before you do it.
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You've got to be ready to just relinquish control of the reins.
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And it didn't matter what I did to my eyes, it didn't matter how much I blanked them, how long I kept my clothes and opened them.
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So instead of black and white, it was like black and red?
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That's why I don't ever want to try acid, because I heard that that's like a 24-hour trip.
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I've heard stories of people thinking they're drowning.
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Because if you think you're drowning, motherfucker, you're drowning.
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I just don't ever want to be in a position to where, like, I saw this movie and this guy, like, controlled, like, if you cross this guy the wrong way, I think it was called Hypnotist or something.
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If you cross this guy the wrong way, he would hypnotize you and make you think that you were in a stressful situation and you could die.
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Like, this one woman, the walls were closing in on her.
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And the walls were closing in on her in her mind, but they weren't.
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And I feel like sometimes a drug can do that to you and I'm not trying to go out like that.
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I think if you are definitely, if you have a tendency towards anxiety and paranoia and you freak out like as you're sober, that yeah, it's probably not a good thing for you.
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No, I do have anxiety, but it ain't that crazy.
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But the acid, I think I will freak out like that.
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That's why I think ayahuasca is what I should do.
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It's amazing how many people do mushrooms who don't talk about it.
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I've had so many people hit me up that, you know, you go, really?
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I wasn't my own person at the time and I just fell into the pressure and I took the shit and I was already paranoid.
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That's the number one problem besides overdoses.
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You're just getting it from a guy who got it from someone else.
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I don't know nothing about the legalities of mushrooms.
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I've never heard anybody getting arrested for having mushrooms ever in my life.
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And if they do, it's like a large number of them they're trying to distribute.
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Like John Hopkins University did a study on them therapeutically.
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They're talking about using them for veterans with PTSD and other people with PTSD therapeutically.
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Yeah, people that at the last stages of their life, it helps alleviate the tension of worrying that you're going to die.
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Yeah, there's a lot of benefits that people are showing with psychedelic therapy, and there's a company called MAPS that's exploring a lot of those, and particularly MDMA. They use MDMA for a lot of people with post-traumatic stress disorder.
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And he, it was like, you know, of course, everybody's all stressed out.
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It's like after COVID, I'm driving out the country.
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I mean, across the country to get to New Orleans.
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And the whole time he's like, I need MDMA. And I don't know too much about it.
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I'm like, what the fuck is MDMA? He's like, I need it.
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Oklahoma didn't give a fuck about COVID. Two months after COVID hit, we go out to this blazing hot nightclub.
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No mask, no vaccine was even thought of at the time.
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Finally, we find Brian in this parking lot buying MDMA from these, like, it's like six black dudes with tattoos all in his face.
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And mind you, the way he looked, he did not belong over there with those black guys.
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And the black guy, I walk up to him, I'm like, Brian, what are you doing?
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He's like, MDMA. And the black guy, he looks at me, he was like, he gave him the drugs, he's like, hurry up and get this motherfucker away from me.
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So we get him away from him, and we go to my Jeep, and then my friend, he's talking shit to these black dudes, calling them all kinds of blah, blah, blahs.
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The dudes came over and he was like, you're lucky y'all came out here to get him.
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Because if he were to say one more fucking thing, we would have whipped his ass.
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And he looked up and said, one more fucking thing.
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Next thing I know, these dudes, next thing I know, his ass got knocked the fuck out.
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I mean, I'm talking about knocked out to his nose in the ground.
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So these dudes that attacked him, I'm telling you, they was raised by their grandmother or someone sweet because they could have attacked us too.
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So we trying to pick him up, but we gave him a worse concussion because that dead weight was so heavy.
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I got, like, my underwear wrapped around his bloody face.
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We're like, you know you got knocked the fuck out if you don't remember being knocked the fuck out.
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Listen to this podcast so I can find out who that is.
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This is one thing I could cross off my bucket list.