The Joe Rogan Experience - February 09, 2023


Joe Rogan Experience #1939 - B-Real


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 11 minutes

Words per Minute

178.7426

Word Count

34,259

Sentence Count

3,432

Misogynist Sentences

78

Hate Speech Sentences

50


Summary

On this episode of Escape from LA, the boys discuss the recent election of the new mayor of LA, Gavin Newsom, and the future of cannabis in the state of California. Also, the guys talk about what it's like growing up in L.A. and what it means to be a millennial in the 21st century. They also talk about their favorite things to do in LA and what they would like to see the city do in the future. The boys also give their opinions on the current state of cannabis and give their thoughts on the new governor and mayor. This episode is brought to you by Caff Monster Energy Drink. Caff is a high-end sparkling wine and is available in Vanilla, Mocha, and Salted Caramel. Caff has been a long time friend of the boys and has been with them since the early days of the podcast. It's a great drink to drink with good friends and talk about anything and everything going on in the world. Enjoy! Enjoy the episode and spread the word to your friends and family about this episode to let them know it's good! XOXO - The Lads and stay safe out there in LA! xoxo -The Lads Crew. -The Crew (featuring: , , "The Crew," , and "The Boys" - "Alyssa" - & "The Mayor" - "The Governor" - (feat. ) , & "Coffee Talk . , (The Mayor, The Mayor, "The City, " The Mayor is Coming" ( ) - (The Governor, ) and "Caff (Cocoa, the Mayor, Caff, and The Governor, Cuzza, and Caffa, , Caffao, and much more! ) - (Caffao) - Cuzzao, "Cocao, CFFO, Cuffao, & The Mayor's House, Cuzzo, CODO, and a little bit more. , we hope you enjoy this one! . . . , ... Cuffee, COCO! - The Mayor will be a great place to drink some good coffee! - Caffee, and other good coffee, COWBOY, and some more! - COOO


Transcript

00:00:12.000 It's good to be here, bro.
00:00:13.000 Good to see you, my friend.
00:00:14.000 Yeah.
00:00:15.000 We're up and at him.
00:00:15.000 What's going on, man?
00:00:17.000 Chilling, man.
00:00:18.000 Working hard, as always.
00:00:20.000 Escape from L.A. Escape from L.A., man.
00:00:23.000 You know, every time we go on tour, that's what I look at it like.
00:00:27.000 Any shows, alright, we're getting away for a little bit.
00:00:31.000 Just take a breather.
00:00:32.000 Alyssa, I hope L.A. comes back.
00:00:33.000 I really do.
00:00:34.000 I hope it...
00:00:36.000 Re-emerges is what it used to be or better.
00:00:39.000 Yeah, you know, I believe it it can too.
00:00:42.000 Sure.
00:00:42.000 And it possibly might man, but it it's gonna take a minute before We get the right people in there.
00:00:49.000 I know running the spot.
00:00:51.000 Who are the right people though?
00:00:52.000 That's the problem.
00:00:53.000 That's that's hard to say right cuz I mean It's it's just hard to trust any politician these days man I mean, my friends have hit me up like, hey, when are you gonna run for mayor?
00:01:06.000 I'm like, I'm better running for mayor.
00:01:08.000 Are you crazy?
00:01:09.000 Bro, you would win.
00:01:11.000 I probably would.
00:01:12.000 Oh my god, you would win.
00:01:13.000 That would be the curse of me, right?
00:01:15.000 It would be the curse, bro.
00:01:16.000 They would go digging deep into your past.
00:01:18.000 Exactly.
00:01:19.000 Yeah, they'd find a bunch of liars, distort a bunch of facts, come up with a narrative.
00:01:24.000 As much of an open book as I've been, you know, and open about everything I've done, yeah, they'll always dig deeper to try to find more, especially when you're in that kind of spot, you know?
00:01:36.000 For sure.
00:01:37.000 Also, if you're an open book, they'll still rewrite your chapters.
00:01:40.000 They'll rewrite the chapters.
00:01:41.000 They'll go in there and go, no, no, no, no, no.
00:01:42.000 Let's change this around and make it a lot worse than it really was.
00:01:45.000 Absolutely.
00:01:46.000 It's a dirty game.
00:01:48.000 Who fucking wants to?
00:01:49.000 That's the problem.
00:01:50.000 Who wants to do that?
00:01:51.000 You know what?
00:01:52.000 It's crazy.
00:01:52.000 The people that want to do that job these days, they're not there to do any work of what politicians are supposed to do.
00:02:01.000 They're trying to get famous.
00:02:02.000 They want to be famous for something because now it's a seat to be famous in.
00:02:07.000 Yeah.
00:02:08.000 Then it's a shame because people that would actually maybe do the work, they don't even got a chance to get in there because they don't want to be famous.
00:02:17.000 They're trying to get in there to do the work.
00:02:19.000 While others like, you know, they're like, I got this seat.
00:02:22.000 I'm showboating this shit.
00:02:23.000 Oh, you know, this whole run.
00:02:25.000 I didn't worry about it at all before COVID. I'm like, who gives a fuck who the mayor is?
00:02:29.000 It runs.
00:02:30.000 LA runs.
00:02:31.000 They figure it out.
00:02:32.000 It's crazy.
00:02:32.000 It's chaotic.
00:02:33.000 There's a lot of people, but it works.
00:02:35.000 Now I'm like, oh my God, that shit's important.
00:02:38.000 It's so important.
00:02:39.000 Oh my God.
00:02:39.000 Who the governor is, who the mayor is, that shit is super important.
00:02:42.000 You know, when you're young, you don't pay attention to any of that stuff.
00:02:45.000 You're just sort of living, going, trying to make your way.
00:02:49.000 As you get older, you start paying attention to the world and the news.
00:02:53.000 You're like, hey, wait a minute.
00:02:55.000 Yeah, once you have children and once you buy property, you're like, hey.
00:02:59.000 And you're paying taxes.
00:03:00.000 What the fuck is going on?
00:03:01.000 They keep jacking up the taxes in California.
00:03:04.000 The tents keep stacking up.
00:03:05.000 I have hope.
00:03:06.000 I have hope.
00:03:07.000 I root for them.
00:03:09.000 I hope this new mayor, I hope she nails it.
00:03:11.000 Yeah.
00:03:12.000 Hopefully she does something about it.
00:03:13.000 Hopefully.
00:03:14.000 But it does cost a lot to live in California these days.
00:03:17.000 It's crazy.
00:03:18.000 It would be great if it went to a good thing.
00:03:20.000 It cost a lot, but everyone was taken care of.
00:03:23.000 They dealt with the homeless situation.
00:03:25.000 They dealt with the crime.
00:03:26.000 They dealt with the poverty.
00:03:27.000 They dealt with all the bullshit.
00:03:29.000 But that doesn't seem to be the case.
00:03:31.000 It's not it.
00:03:34.000 So cannabis, we know, generates California a huge amount of capital, right?
00:03:43.000 And where did it go?
00:03:45.000 Where does it go?
00:03:46.000 Where does it go?
00:03:47.000 They don't ever tell you where it goes, but I could tell you there's a bridge up there on 6th Street Had to get the money from somewhere, right?
00:03:55.000 Yeah.
00:03:56.000 Well, cannabis, I mean, what is the amount that cannabis is generating for California?
00:03:59.000 It's gotta be enormous.
00:04:01.000 Yeah, it was for a time.
00:04:03.000 For a time?
00:04:04.000 It's not anymore?
00:04:05.000 It goes up and down.
00:04:06.000 You know, in the pandemic, oddly enough, people had a lot of money to spend because of the checks and stuff like that.
00:04:11.000 But now the checks have run out and they got less money to spend.
00:04:17.000 So, you know, it's always a roller coaster ride as it relates to what sales will be.
00:04:22.000 There it is right there.
00:04:23.000 Yeah.
00:04:24.000 Marijuana tax revenue, $1,294,632,799.
00:04:31.000 I believe we're the highest taxed state as it relates to cannabis, and it's crazy.
00:04:35.000 Yeah, look at the difference between Colorado, which also has a lot of weed, only $423 million.
00:04:40.000 Yeah, they gouge us, man.
00:04:41.000 I mean, we saved, well, the industry saved the state.
00:04:45.000 I mean, you know, you lived there for many years now.
00:04:48.000 And California was in debt.
00:04:50.000 Yeah.
00:04:51.000 We had no surplus.
00:04:52.000 Now we got surplus.
00:04:53.000 We could build bridges that are multi-million dollar bridges.
00:04:57.000 I had Mariana Von Zeller on the podcast from that television show, Trafficked.
00:05:02.000 I don't know if you've seen that show.
00:05:03.000 It's a great show on the National Geographic.
00:05:05.000 Yes, it's crazy.
00:05:05.000 Crazy.
00:05:06.000 She's boots on the ground journalist.
00:05:07.000 She goes into the jungle where the cocaine manufacturers are.
00:05:10.000 She went to the Congo for dealing with people that are trafficking in the great apes.
00:05:15.000 Wild show.
00:05:16.000 Wild shit.
00:05:17.000 But she was talking about one of the problems with California is it's so difficult to get a license to sell weed regularly that illegal sales of weed are up way more than regular.
00:05:30.000 So they're not getting taxed on that because they made it difficult for people.
00:05:33.000 Yeah, the people that operate legally are the ones getting tapped the hardest because you got to pay for all these regulations and all these fees and the taxation, whether you're in the cultivation aspect of it or you're the retail,
00:05:49.000 manufacturer, distribution, any of it, man.
00:05:52.000 I mean, it's the taxation to operate is high and the taxes on the consumer as well.
00:06:00.000 So when you have that factored in and you got these guys that are trapping, as they call it, right?
00:06:06.000 Black market style.
00:06:07.000 Yeah, they're making all the money and the state isn't really doing anything about that.
00:06:15.000 And they make it hard to get a license for people who might actually be able to navigate that.
00:06:20.000 The business, but it's just so many hoops you gotta jump through, man.
00:06:25.000 So much regulation.
00:06:26.000 Yeah.
00:06:26.000 It's unfortunate, but at least it's legal now.
00:06:30.000 Yes.
00:06:30.000 I mean, I remember in 2016, when it became legal, we were in the middle of a podcast.
00:06:34.000 Yeah.
00:06:35.000 We're doing the End of the World podcast during the election, live at the Comedy Store, and then it came out that marijuana passed, and it's legal.
00:06:41.000 Yeah.
00:06:42.000 And everybody cheered.
00:06:43.000 It was amazing.
00:06:44.000 The whole place went, yeah!
00:06:45.000 But this is crazy that legally, like federally, it's illegal.
00:06:49.000 It's still schedule one.
00:06:51.000 You know, what's crazy is that more states are rolling over, like, you know, because the federal government is leaving it up to the state to decide, right?
00:07:00.000 And some states are seeing what's happening in places like Colorado, where the taxation ain't so high, and they are actually making a lot of money, or the state is making a lot of money through cannabis.
00:07:13.000 They're starting to consider it, right?
00:07:15.000 So you're seeing states roll over one at a time, like New York.
00:07:20.000 For instance, we thought that should have been like way sooner.
00:07:25.000 But we thought, okay, when New York rolls, and let's just say Florida and Boston roll, everywhere else will roll over slowly.
00:07:33.000 And that's kind of what's happening.
00:07:37.000 So, I mean, I think it's just a matter of time, man, where we will have it federally legal, but we're going to all pay the price until...
00:07:45.000 Yeah, then mushrooms.
00:07:47.000 Then mushrooms.
00:07:48.000 Mushrooms gotta make its way through.
00:07:49.000 Oh, man.
00:07:50.000 They gotta make it.
00:07:51.000 You know, what's crazy is the studies that they've been coming up with as of late, like how they've been using microdose and moderate dose to treat people with depression and anxiety and all the other business,
00:08:06.000 you know what I mean?
00:08:07.000 Oh, yeah.
00:08:09.000 Some therapists are talking about how they're actually using microdoses to help people.
00:08:18.000 Let's just say that they had some sort of ailment, like migraines, for instance.
00:08:24.000 They say that they can disconnect whatever that is and rewire whatever it is causing the migraines to stop them.
00:08:35.000 Yeah, we're the worst dudes to be talking about neurochemistry.
00:08:37.000 Yeah, we are.
00:08:39.000 Yeah, rewire.
00:08:41.000 Yeah, I mean supposedly psilocybin rather is one of the very best things for that.
00:08:48.000 Yeah.
00:08:49.000 For curing addictions and people that are dealing with like real serious problems with PTSD and people that are dying and have massive anxiety.
00:08:59.000 It alleviates end-of-life anxiety for them.
00:09:02.000 Yes, people with anger issues, too.
00:09:04.000 I mean, you know, people that pop off for any given reason, man.
00:09:09.000 You give them some micro doses and they're the nicest people in the world.
00:09:14.000 Yeah, I mean, that's for sure a factor with cannabis, too, man.
00:09:20.000 I mean, cannabis makes people so much friendlier.
00:09:24.000 I think it puts you in a relaxed state, whether you choose it or not.
00:09:32.000 I've stood out of a lot of altercations being as high as I am, because somebody might throw an insult here and there, and I may not even be paying attention to them.
00:09:43.000 Whereas if I'm not, I'm totally paying attention to that.
00:09:48.000 And it escalates.
00:09:49.000 And it's going to escalate.
00:09:50.000 Yeah, which is the worst.
00:09:52.000 Because a lot of us that are high-strung without it, man, it sort of grounds us out in a good way.
00:09:58.000 Exercise and weed is a great combination for being a peaceful, kind person.
00:10:04.000 Absolutely, and good health.
00:10:06.000 Yeah, and good health.
00:10:07.000 Because weed keeps you young, man.
00:10:09.000 Yeah.
00:10:09.000 I gotta tell you.
00:10:10.000 Well, it definitely keeps you relaxed, which can help you stay young.
00:10:14.000 Yeah.
00:10:14.000 At least give you a young mindset.
00:10:17.000 Yeah, the stresses of life can age you.
00:10:19.000 Yeah, just concentrate on the petty bullshit.
00:10:21.000 It's just not worth it, man.
00:10:24.000 It's not worth it.
00:10:25.000 Yeah, you know like we used to do mushrooms a lot and I told that I told a couple of stories when I was on the last time I was here But you know that it used to be a part of our our journey man like we'd get on stage Mushrooms and like just go on the ride.
00:10:40.000 Yeah After a while, I couldn't do it anymore.
00:10:45.000 I couldn't be on stage and be totally in the melt, we call it, where it's above micro, it's above moderate, like you're a full melt, as they say.
00:10:56.000 And it was harder for me to be in front of people differently.
00:11:00.000 Because I had these issues deeply rooted that I was angry about, and every time I got to that place, that's what I'd focus on.
00:11:09.000 And I didn't want to feel that ugliness, so I waited until I got over whatever that issue was.
00:11:16.000 And then I started, you know, slowly doing mushrooms again, micro dosing first and then moderate.
00:11:23.000 And I started feeling good about it again.
00:11:26.000 And I realized how much, you know, it actually helped me push away from whatever that issue was when I did it the first time.
00:11:34.000 Yeah, just something you were focusing on, right?
00:11:36.000 Yeah, I was just needed to work out.
00:11:38.000 Yeah, I often say, if you're going to try mushrooms beyond micro, try to deal with whatever issues you got before you go in and have a friend there to help you, to be in the world there with you, you know?
00:11:52.000 That's what everybody used to use, a sitter.
00:11:54.000 That was always the big thing.
00:11:55.000 If you did mushrooms, you should have a sitter.
00:11:58.000 In the best case scenario, you would have qualified professionals that would assist in psychedelic therapy, which is what happens for a lot of people.
00:12:09.000 I know people that have done that in other states where it's legal or illegal.
00:12:14.000 And where it's legal, I mean, it's amazing.
00:12:17.000 You can go to a place and someone who understands the experience and knows what to do can help you through it.
00:12:21.000 And I know people that have made some big breakthroughs in their life and just really just sort of reassessed how they interface with the world because of that.
00:12:29.000 Yeah, man.
00:12:30.000 I mean, if you could find something that would help you get past whatever is, you know, holding you back or troubling you, weighing you down, man, I mean, better than taking any of these over-the-counter drugs for that that might suppress those feelings or thoughts than have you deal with them and get past them.
00:12:51.000 Yeah.
00:12:52.000 Well, that kind of thinking is why it's going to stay illegal.
00:12:56.000 Because there's a lot of money to be lost with marijuana and psilocybin and all these things becoming legal.
00:13:02.000 There's a lot of shit that people are taking that might not be necessary and might have some unintended side effects and consequences.
00:13:09.000 That you don't get with natural remedies.
00:13:11.000 Right.
00:13:11.000 It's like they say, there's no money in the cure.
00:13:14.000 Yeah.
00:13:15.000 There should be.
00:13:16.000 There should be.
00:13:17.000 Yeah.
00:13:17.000 But for them, there isn't.
00:13:19.000 It's such a problem when people can make a lot of money off of something.
00:13:22.000 Yeah.
00:13:22.000 As soon as they find a thing they can sell you that they can make a lot of money off, they want to keep selling to you.
00:13:27.000 Yeah.
00:13:27.000 No matter what.
00:13:28.000 And then you have other companies that do the knockoff versions of what they do to sell more of it to you.
00:13:33.000 It's just, you know, I've been paying a lot of attention over the years about the opiate crisis and the pill problem.
00:13:41.000 That's something we talked about with Mariana Van Zeller, too, because when I first met her, I had her on because she did this thing called the Oxycontin Express.
00:13:48.000 Right.
00:13:49.000 Where she explained the pill mills in Florida and how people would buy the Oxys and bring them up the highway to Kentucky and all these places and people with horrible addictions and horrible overdose stories and it was all coming from Florida.
00:14:00.000 And there was no database.
00:14:02.000 So you could have a back.
00:14:04.000 Ah, my back hurts.
00:14:05.000 You go to this place.
00:14:06.000 They go, oh, you need OxyContin.
00:14:07.000 And literally you go right next door at the same building.
00:14:10.000 And that's where they give you the Oxy.
00:14:11.000 And that's all they prescribe.
00:14:12.000 And they don't have a database.
00:14:13.000 So then you go down the street to another doctor because these pain management clinics were everywhere.
00:14:17.000 That seems like it's a thing in Florida.
00:14:20.000 It was.
00:14:21.000 It was a thing in Florida.
00:14:23.000 They cleaned it up.
00:14:23.000 I mean, they had this show called Claws, right?
00:14:28.000 That old girl that did Reno 911, Nietzsche Nash, right?
00:14:35.000 She starred in this TV show called Claws.
00:14:40.000 And it's her and a group of women, you know, trying to come up in a salon, like, you know, make the best salon.
00:14:47.000 But the other way that they're making money is, you know, through the pills and through one of these type of...
00:14:56.000 One of these type of clinics.
00:14:58.000 And it's basically showing you the game on how people are doing in Florida, how these folks, this is like a thing out there.
00:15:06.000 The pain management clinics and all that stuff with the Oxycontin, all that stuff.
00:15:11.000 What trips me out is that this fentanyl thing, right?
00:15:16.000 People know about it.
00:15:18.000 It's been out there, yet they'll still challenge themselves and try to party like...
00:15:26.000 Like, the shit ain't present.
00:15:28.000 It's like the gamble they're taking with that.
00:15:30.000 It just blows my mind.
00:15:32.000 I think that hard drug addiction is a different thing.
00:15:36.000 Yeah.
00:15:36.000 I really think it's a different thing.
00:15:37.000 I haven't experienced it, but I have friends that have, and they get scared like they got captured by a demon.
00:15:44.000 And when they get clean, they don't want to fuck around with nothing.
00:15:47.000 They're like, dude, you don't understand.
00:15:49.000 I got captured by a demon.
00:15:52.000 If you wonder when people talk about demonic possession, that was always a thing back in the day.
00:15:59.000 Before, people really had an understanding of human psychology and myths and lures and what people are terrified of.
00:16:08.000 Demonic possession was a real thing.
00:16:11.000 But if you think about what happens to someone when they get really hooked on meth, I mean, how much different is that than being captured by a demon?
00:16:19.000 You're captured by a chemical demon that's ruining your life, wants you to get in a fistfight with cops, wants you to drive with no fucking tires.
00:16:28.000 Wild shit.
00:16:29.000 It's a chemical demon.
00:16:31.000 It does possess you.
00:16:32.000 I mean, like, look, when people were doing the PCP thing back in the day, right?
00:16:37.000 You know, back in Southgate, when Sen and I were, like, you know, younger before, we were, you know, while we were in demo stages, right?
00:16:47.000 Doing our demos and stuff like that.
00:16:49.000 We'd, you know, trek around the city, you know, like go to parties and stuff like that.
00:16:53.000 House parties, if you will.
00:16:55.000 And every now and then, Because we were broke-ass bastards.
00:16:59.000 We didn't always have cars.
00:17:00.000 We'd be walking to the parties and stuff like that from Cyprus or whatever.
00:17:05.000 And every now and then, you would come across a couple of gangsters that were PCP'd out.
00:17:13.000 And these dudes, I mean, if you got into some shit with them, you were dealing with someone who didn't know their strength and their abilities at that point.
00:17:22.000 Yeah, they would break handcuffs.
00:17:23.000 Yeah, they would break handcuffs.
00:17:25.000 Is that real?
00:17:27.000 Did people really break handcuffs on PCP or is that one of those myths?
00:17:30.000 Because I had always heard that people did that.
00:17:31.000 They could definitely break windows like nothing.
00:17:34.000 They do wild shit.
00:17:36.000 They do wild shit.
00:17:37.000 So there was this kid in Southgate.
00:17:39.000 He was a gangbanger.
00:17:41.000 And a lot of other people in the area, they don't want to fuck with him because him and his brother were kind of crazy, right?
00:17:47.000 And they had, like, reputations.
00:17:50.000 And there was another contingency of gangsters that wanted to get at him, right?
00:17:55.000 So this guy was sitting on his porch one day by himself.
00:17:59.000 His brothers and the rest of his guys were not there with him.
00:18:03.000 He was outside of his mother's house chilling.
00:18:05.000 And these dudes roll up on him with a shotgun, and they blast him.
00:18:11.000 They, you know, buck-shotted him, you know, in his stomach, all that.
00:18:16.000 And they take off.
00:18:19.000 They leave him there for dead.
00:18:21.000 That's what was the intention, right?
00:18:24.000 And this dude was on PCP at the time.
00:18:27.000 They did not know he was on PCP. Nobody knew until the paramedics came, got him.
00:18:33.000 And that's what, oddly enough, is what saved him, is that he didn't go into shock.
00:18:38.000 He was just like, whoa.
00:18:41.000 You know, like, so slowed down and possessed by the PCP or whatever the hell he was on.
00:18:51.000 And he lived through that, you know?
00:18:54.000 And it wasn't like, it was a short distance that they blasted him with all them buckshots out.
00:18:59.000 I mean, it had to be painful, but he didn't feel a goddamn thing, apparently.
00:19:04.000 And he felt it the next day, obviously.
00:19:07.000 But he lived through that while he was on the PCP. And that's crazy.
00:19:12.000 Is it good for you?
00:19:14.000 Well, because it's not a big conspiracy, PCP. Well, I would say that had he not been on it, he would have went into shock and sure enough died right there on that porch.
00:19:23.000 Wow.
00:19:23.000 Imagine if that becomes a thing.
00:19:26.000 Like it turns out to be true that if you're on PCP when you get wounded, you're more likely to survive.
00:19:30.000 That would be crazy.
00:19:31.000 What is that elevated state?
00:19:34.000 Isn't PCP, isn't it related to ketamine in some way?
00:19:38.000 Didn't someone say that on the podcast and it freaked us out?
00:19:44.000 Yeah, I think it's really related, like real close to ketamine or something.
00:19:48.000 Some guys used to smoke, like dip their joints or cigarettes in embalming.
00:19:53.000 Sherm.
00:19:54.000 Yeah, Sherm.
00:19:54.000 That was another zombie deal right there.
00:19:58.000 Ketamine and phenylside, PCP study, yeah.
00:20:02.000 Ketamine and fensi...
00:20:05.000 I'm sorry.
00:20:08.000 Slydine.
00:20:08.000 If I was a fucking scientist, I'd be so mad at this podcast.
00:20:11.000 Yeah, he was either on...
00:20:12.000 Fensiclidine.
00:20:13.000 Yeah, he was either on PCP or SHRM. One of the two.
00:20:16.000 It says are N-methyl-D-aspir receptor antagonists and disassociate anesthetics that can cause intoxication, sometimes confusion.
00:20:30.000 So it seems like it's similar?
00:20:32.000 Yeah.
00:20:33.000 Is that what they're saying, Jamie?
00:20:35.000 If not...
00:20:35.000 They're both in the same family?
00:20:38.000 Ketamine story begins with a drug called PCP. Yes, that PCP. So maybe it's like the proper form of it made in a lab.
00:20:47.000 So I had a boxing coach back in Boston, and he was a savage.
00:20:51.000 This dude was a longshoreman.
00:20:53.000 I don't want to say his name because I want to tell the whole story.
00:20:55.000 But he was a wild dude, especially when he was young.
00:21:01.000 And he was a really good boxer.
00:21:03.000 And he got in a street fight and got his fucking finger bitten off.
00:21:07.000 So his index finger on his right hand was missing, and he had it replaced with his fucking toe.
00:21:14.000 This is how gangster this dude was.
00:21:16.000 He had his toe removed.
00:21:18.000 Not the big toe, but the second one.
00:21:20.000 And the toe was his new finger, and he had it curved so he could throw right hooks.
00:21:25.000 Oh, man.
00:21:26.000 So when you shook his hand, you always got a curved finger, because this finger was immobile.
00:21:31.000 It could just kind of clamp down, but he could still throw punches.
00:21:35.000 He had it curved so he could make a fist.
00:21:37.000 They're like, we can leave it open, and he's like, no, no, no, fuck that.
00:21:40.000 I want to be able to crack people.
00:21:42.000 So his toe is his right finger, and he goes, I don't even remember what happened.
00:21:46.000 He was on PCP, and he got his finger bitten off in a street fight.
00:21:49.000 Yeah, man.
00:21:50.000 And I'm like, what is PCP like?
00:21:52.000 He's like...
00:21:54.000 To the moon.
00:21:55.000 It ain't nothing like we experience with this weed.
00:21:58.000 I'm not fucking even thinking about trying that, whatever that is.
00:22:02.000 I don't want it, man.
00:22:03.000 But if ketamine's like next door neighbors to that, that's what's crazy because I know a lot of people did ketamine and they did sensory deprivation tanks on ketamine.
00:22:11.000 That was what John Lilly used to do, apparently.
00:22:14.000 And what'd that do for him?
00:22:17.000 I don't know, man.
00:22:18.000 The way I've heard about ketamine is, you know, it's only a bunch of different descriptions, but people say, like, you can do, they can do IV-assisted ketamine for depression, and Neil Brennan did it, you know, Neil Brennan, the comedian.
00:22:33.000 Neil, who's a hilarious and interesting dude, so he's the perfect guy to, like, he can describe this, and he's trying to figure out what's wrong with him, why is he depressed.
00:22:42.000 So he tries his ketamine therapy.
00:22:44.000 He's like, oh, it'll probably be something where you lay there and you get a little dose of this and you relax or something.
00:22:49.000 You're like, no.
00:22:50.000 He goes, I was tripping my fucking balls off.
00:22:53.000 I go, really?
00:22:54.000 And I forget his description of it, but I remember Terrence McKenna's.
00:22:58.000 He said, it's like you're in an alien office building, but there's no one in the office building.
00:23:03.000 You're wandering around.
00:23:05.000 But I've heard a bunch of different, weirder, even more strange descriptions of people that go into K-holes.
00:23:12.000 A couple interesting things to read in here.
00:23:13.000 What does it say?
00:23:15.000 Well, it's very similar to PCP, but it's got a lot...
00:23:19.000 When it was chemically synthesized in the 60s, they took out the convulsion and seizure stuff that would happen to people.
00:23:25.000 Well, that's good.
00:23:25.000 Jesus Christ!
00:23:26.000 That's great!
00:23:27.000 Jesus Christ!
00:23:28.000 Thank you!
00:23:29.000 Oh my God!
00:23:30.000 But here at the bottom, it says that it's a sedative.
00:23:33.000 In fact, it was given to that boy's soccer team that was trapped in a cave in Thailand.
00:23:36.000 Oh my God!
00:23:38.000 So they would be easier to move.
00:23:40.000 Oh my God!
00:23:42.000 Oh my God, that's so insane.
00:23:44.000 That's crazy.
00:23:44.000 So they're pretty much loose.
00:23:46.000 Yeah, they put them on ketamine to get them through the tunnel.
00:23:50.000 That's insane.
00:23:51.000 Wow, that so makes sense though.
00:23:52.000 Yeah, I would imagine because if you got like any issues about, you know, like you're claustrophobic.
00:23:58.000 If those kids panicked and freaked out while they were swimming them through.
00:24:02.000 Yeah, stuck.
00:24:02.000 Oh my god.
00:24:03.000 Done.
00:24:03.000 There's an article I found from 1991 LA Times that's describing some myths about PCP. What's the big myth?
00:24:10.000 Does it have anything about handcuff breaking?
00:24:13.000 I always heard that dudes can break handcuffs, right?
00:24:16.000 You always heard that, right?
00:24:17.000 There's a lot of anecdotes for sure of them saying that they would break their bones and do things that they wouldn't feel because it was such a powerful anesthetic that they wouldn't feel shit until it wore off.
00:24:27.000 Yeah, you're numb, basically.
00:24:28.000 But this also says that there's myths that were created to change that apparently those myths were used to change some laws.
00:24:34.000 Like, for instance, cocaine, it says a myth that made blacks most unaffected by cocaine...
00:24:40.000 Cocaine made blacks unaffected by.32 caliber bullets is said to have caused Southern police departments to switch to.38 caliber revolvers.
00:24:47.000 What?
00:24:48.000 Oh, my God.
00:24:49.000 Oh, my God.
00:24:50.000 And so there's this thing about PCP that says if people believe that it would make them...
00:24:55.000 They believe the public will go along with use of any force to make the claim that the person was under the influence of PCP. That it's so dangerous that any means to subdue.
00:25:04.000 Yeah, any means to subdue.
00:25:06.000 Isn't it interesting that they decide what caliber you should be able to kill people with?
00:25:12.000 Yeah.
00:25:13.000 Well, this ain't big enough.
00:25:15.000 We need to go bigger.
00:25:16.000 It's almost like they're saying, give someone a chance to just get wounded.
00:25:20.000 Yeah.
00:25:21.000 You might just get wounded.
00:25:23.000 Yeah, but they're shooting at you.
00:25:25.000 What's crazy is that they're saying that this drug makes them not necessarily superhuman, but not as vulnerable.
00:25:37.000 Not as vulnerable.
00:25:38.000 And it is true to a degree.
00:25:40.000 I would imagine if you're hopped up on meth, you'd probably be really hard to take down.
00:25:44.000 You'd just be like a wild animal, like a wild cat.
00:25:47.000 Yeah, it would take...
00:25:48.000 Yeah, you're ripping your body apart, resisting.
00:25:51.000 You don't even realize the limitations of your tissue.
00:25:53.000 You're just ripping your knees apart and just fucking going crazy.
00:25:56.000 Yeah, I mean, you don't give a shit.
00:25:58.000 So when we were spending a lot of time in Southgate before, we eventually start touring and moving around and being a part of the industry more than being in the streets, right?
00:26:12.000 Just before that, we used to hang out at this spot In Southgate, at this jack-in-the-box.
00:26:19.000 Like, for some reason, everybody went there.
00:26:21.000 And it was on Firestone in California.
00:26:24.000 And City Hall is just down the street, and Southgate Police Department is just right there.
00:26:29.000 And we just happened to be there on this day where they were trying to take down this, like, dude that was, like, probably, like, 6263 Kenny Loggins-looking motherfucker, you know, scraggly beard.
00:26:40.000 He's got his shirt off, no shoes.
00:26:42.000 He's just in his jeans.
00:26:44.000 And there's like 10 Southgate police officers trying to subdue this guy.
00:26:50.000 And they could just not.
00:26:52.000 They had to call like five or six more.
00:26:54.000 And they put him in the back of the police car.
00:26:59.000 And with his bare feet, he kicks out the window.
00:27:02.000 And they're like, they are really dealing with this guy.
00:27:05.000 This dude was huge.
00:27:06.000 Oh my god.
00:27:09.000 Yeah, he had to have been on something.
00:27:11.000 Because he wasn't very big, big.
00:27:15.000 He was tall, but he was kind of lanky.
00:27:17.000 But man, he was tossing those dudes around like nothing.
00:27:20.000 Well, there's some dudes that are just genetically freak-strong.
00:27:24.000 Yeah.
00:27:24.000 You know?
00:27:25.000 Like our buddy Jeff out there.
00:27:27.000 Jeff doesn't even work out, and there's this grip thing that you grab, and he beats all of us.
00:27:32.000 Everybody works out every day.
00:27:33.000 He grabs his thing, it's like...
00:27:35.000 Got that inner strength.
00:27:36.000 Just got natural strength.
00:27:38.000 Yeah.
00:27:39.000 Some people just have better genes than us.
00:27:40.000 Yeah, and imagine that guy on PCP. Oh, my goodness.
00:27:45.000 You're not gonna hold him down?
00:27:46.000 He's barefoot, and he looks like Kenny Loggins.
00:27:48.000 Yeah.
00:27:49.000 And he's got some country strength.
00:27:51.000 He's got country strength, bro.
00:27:53.000 For real.
00:27:54.000 Bro, those guys that work on farms, that is 100% legit.
00:27:57.000 Yeah.
00:27:58.000 When you think about hay bales, that's just like doing kettlebells all day.
00:28:01.000 Well, look, they even suggested that this was like...
00:28:06.000 Hard shit when they made Rocky do it in Rocky IV. Exactly!
00:28:11.000 They made him do old school farm work and shit.
00:28:13.000 Yeah.
00:28:14.000 You ain't fast anymore.
00:28:16.000 We gotta focus on your strength.
00:28:18.000 Yeah.
00:28:19.000 And all that shit takes strength.
00:28:21.000 It takes strength.
00:28:22.000 Build strength.
00:28:22.000 Yeah, farm people are probably the strongest fucking people on earth.
00:28:26.000 That's why they made such good wrestlers.
00:28:28.000 They're very sturdy.
00:28:29.000 Yeah.
00:28:29.000 Well, also, it's a huge thing up there.
00:28:32.000 Wrestling's like this long-standing tradition in the Midwest, but also, there's a lot of fucking farmers out there, and those kids are savages.
00:28:38.000 Oh, yeah.
00:28:39.000 Imagine how they were doing those backyard matches in certain neighborhoods.
00:28:46.000 Imagine out there on the farm.
00:28:48.000 The matches they're throwing out there.
00:28:50.000 For sure that's happening right now.
00:28:52.000 To entertain themselves.
00:28:53.000 Do you know Joe Lozon, the MMA fighter?
00:28:55.000 Yeah.
00:28:56.000 Him and his brother used to have real fights in the backyard of a cookout.
00:29:00.000 Go to Joe Lozon versus Dan Lozon.
00:29:04.000 They beat the fuck out of each other in the backyard.
00:29:08.000 Like real brothers.
00:29:09.000 Full-on MMA fight at a pig cookout.
00:29:13.000 No beefing, just fighting.
00:29:14.000 Just fighting.
00:29:16.000 Fighting.
00:29:16.000 So look at this.
00:29:17.000 This is these crazy motherfuckers.
00:29:21.000 At a cookout.
00:29:22.000 They're at a fucking cookout.
00:29:23.000 So everyone's hanging around.
00:29:24.000 They're in their gym shorts in the front yard.
00:29:26.000 And they're gonna fight.
00:29:27.000 So this is no beef, all sport.
00:29:30.000 Just for sport.
00:29:30.000 This is just, we're gonna have a fight.
00:29:33.000 I mean, this is a full-on, 100% MMA fight.
00:29:36.000 Look, there's bricks behind them.
00:29:37.000 Look at the fucking...
00:29:38.000 Look at the bricks.
00:29:40.000 The landscaping bricks.
00:29:41.000 Where's mom?
00:29:43.000 Mom's cheering on.
00:29:44.000 Don't be a pussy.
00:29:46.000 Mom's cheering him on.
00:29:49.000 It's fucking amazing, because their friends are all just sitting around.
00:29:52.000 By the way, both of these guys, world-class MMA fighters.
00:29:56.000 Joe Lozon is an elite MMA fighter, and his brother was a fucking straight-up killer when he was young.
00:30:01.000 Yeah, these dudes have been around for a long time.
00:30:04.000 Yeah, so Dan and Joe just beating the shit out of each other in front of everybody.
00:30:09.000 Look at this!
00:30:10.000 This is crazy!
00:30:11.000 This is a 100% full-on fight.
00:30:15.000 He just hit him with a hard ground-and-pound right hand from the top.
00:30:18.000 If we didn't have beef beforehand, we'd have beef after.
00:30:21.000 Joe Lozon with a deep half sweep!
00:30:22.000 That's a beautiful sweep he just hit him with.
00:30:24.000 He hit him with a deep half.
00:30:26.000 Oh my goodness.
00:30:28.000 Brothers.
00:30:28.000 Oh my goodness.
00:30:30.000 For no money.
00:30:31.000 This is no money.
00:30:31.000 He got the choke in.
00:30:33.000 I'd like to play the song from Henji and Ivo Lee, brothers.
00:30:41.000 They got beef now.
00:30:45.000 He got mad that he didn't let go when he tapped.
00:30:49.000 That is wild!
00:30:50.000 That is wild.
00:30:51.000 That's wild, man.
00:30:52.000 Joe's the older brother?
00:30:53.000 Yeah.
00:30:53.000 That's why he didn't let go.
00:30:59.000 But some guys that grow up with brothers are like the toughest dudes.
00:31:03.000 Yeah.
00:31:04.000 Because they're always fighting.
00:31:05.000 They're fighting with their brothers all the time.
00:31:07.000 They're always fighting, yeah.
00:31:08.000 They're not worried about conflict.
00:31:09.000 They're ready to go.
00:31:10.000 Yeah.
00:31:10.000 They experience it constantly.
00:31:12.000 It's like being in prison.
00:31:13.000 Yeah, and what's crazy is if they get into a fight on the street with other guys, they're beating the shit out of those other guys.
00:31:21.000 They're so used to fighting.
00:31:23.000 But he can fuck with you the other way too, man.
00:31:25.000 I had a buddy of mine who had a brother who terrorized him.
00:31:28.000 His brother was just like super mean, beat the shit out of him.
00:31:31.000 Like, would physically beat him up all the time.
00:31:34.000 And he was bigger and older.
00:31:35.000 He was bullied.
00:31:36.000 Yeah, and this guy was like a good-looking guy.
00:31:38.000 He was smart, but he always had this fucking terrible insecurity.
00:31:43.000 There's this thing about him, and then one time we had a conversation about it.
00:31:46.000 He's like, my brother just beat the fuck out of me my whole life.
00:31:50.000 He was like living with, like he was being terrorized by his brother, and nobody did anything about it.
00:31:55.000 His brother was probably- The parents didn't want to get involved.
00:31:59.000 It just fucked up his head forever.
00:32:01.000 When you get a sibling that's abusing you, you know what I mean?
00:32:05.000 Because you really can't do shit about it.
00:32:08.000 But that's, you know, hey, guys like that, at this point, that they're still having this hang-up, psilocybin.
00:32:15.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:32:16.000 Go to a therapist, do that treatment, and...
00:32:20.000 It'll help you.
00:32:21.000 It's almost like, you know, when people go do the ayahuasca thing and they got the shaman guiding you through, you know what I mean?
00:32:28.000 And you need guidance with stuff like that.
00:32:31.000 Also, you need guidance because there's probably a bunch of medications that people take.
00:32:36.000 You wouldn't ever want to take with mushrooms.
00:32:38.000 You would want to talk to a doctor.
00:32:41.000 There's got to be, right?
00:32:43.000 What medications are dangerous when mixed with psilocybin?
00:32:47.000 Google that.
00:32:48.000 Because there's got to be some stuff like MAO inhibitors and stuff that would make you lose your fucking marbles.
00:32:55.000 McKenna told some story once about he took some sort of an MAO inhibitor and mushrooms at the same time and he almost lost his mind.
00:33:06.000 I believe that was the combination he was talking about.
00:33:08.000 That's crazy.
00:33:08.000 But it was just way too much.
00:33:11.000 And it took him a while before he could sort of...
00:33:14.000 The way he was describing it was much more eloquent.
00:33:16.000 But he was like talking about how he was trying to reformulate reality.
00:33:20.000 Yeah.
00:33:20.000 Essentially.
00:33:21.000 That it wasn't...
00:33:22.000 That went deep.
00:33:23.000 Yeah, he was like gone.
00:33:24.000 Like, oh my god, I'm never coming back gone.
00:33:27.000 Yeah.
00:33:27.000 You know, and then it just took a while.
00:33:29.000 And then eventually...
00:33:30.000 There's stories of him and his brother...
00:33:32.000 They took mushrooms in the Amazon, and they found these fresh mushrooms, and the brother went way, way, way too hard.
00:33:39.000 He went way too hard.
00:33:41.000 In the Amazon, he took mushrooms.
00:33:43.000 That's crazy.
00:33:43.000 And he was gone for weeks.
00:33:45.000 He was gone for weeks.
00:33:47.000 For weeks.
00:33:47.000 Yeah, some folks don't come back from that as quickly as others, and some people stay.
00:33:52.000 Some people stay.
00:33:54.000 If you're prone to having mental issues already, it's probably not a good idea to do it.
00:34:00.000 Not without a guide.
00:34:03.000 And even then, probably you should just do a little.
00:34:05.000 Yeah, moderate.
00:34:06.000 I'm not a doctor, clearly.
00:34:09.000 Don't take my advice on anything.
00:34:10.000 But in that regard, I would say what they did was wild.
00:34:16.000 They just ate a pile of them.
00:34:19.000 Like, who knows how much it was?
00:34:21.000 There's like fresh mushrooms in the Amazon, and he was apparently just fucking gone.
00:34:26.000 You know, people are going extra hard on the mushrooms as of late.
00:34:30.000 Like, you know, we talk about it on the Dr. Green Thumb show, right?
00:34:34.000 And we were talking about, you know what, one day we're going to do, you know, a microdose before we go on, or a moderate dose, right?
00:34:42.000 And we did that, and everything was fucking hilarious to us, right?
00:34:47.000 After that show, we started seeing some of the fans and like, yo, this is what I'm doing today, right?
00:34:54.000 And they'll send us the shake prep, if you will.
00:34:59.000 They'll do them in shakes, right?
00:35:00.000 And they'll take a pile of mushrooms and grind them up in that shake.
00:35:05.000 And we're like, damn, you ain't coming back for a week.
00:35:08.000 Yeah.
00:35:09.000 Back in the day, we used to do like an eighth before we went on stage.
00:35:13.000 We'd take an eighth of mushrooms, and that was a lot for that time.
00:35:16.000 But people are doing double that.
00:35:18.000 We're like, whoa.
00:35:20.000 You guys ain't...
00:35:22.000 Floating around in alternative reality.
00:35:24.000 You're going into the portal.
00:35:26.000 You're into the portal and then you're interacting with the material world while you're in the portal.
00:35:31.000 Yeah, and that's the hard part.
00:35:32.000 If you're around like-minded people like everybody took and it's closed off to the world and you guys are right there, it's fine.
00:35:42.000 But it's always the one person that might not be in the world with you in that way and they might throw the whole damn thing off.
00:35:51.000 Yeah, that can happen.
00:35:51.000 Because you're trying to relax.
00:35:53.000 Yeah.
00:35:53.000 And you see that someone's losing their shit.
00:35:55.000 Yeah.
00:35:56.000 Yeah.
00:35:56.000 Or vice versa.
00:35:57.000 You could be like, we're all totally here.
00:36:00.000 That person doesn't understand where we're at.
00:36:03.000 Right.
00:36:03.000 Because he's not in it or she's not in it with us.
00:36:06.000 What's really important to me is it could help so many people.
00:36:09.000 Like so many veterans.
00:36:11.000 Like so many people with PTSD. Yeah, you know so many people like my friend assault victims I think that I think there's a real potential that it can help but it's dangerous Yeah, it's like everything where you're you're monkeying with your mind.
00:36:25.000 It's dangerous.
00:36:26.000 It shouldn't be treated lightly.
00:36:27.000 No It's real stuff.
00:36:29.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:36:30.000 I mean, you know There's people that do it for, you know, casual use to, you know, just like someone smokes weed.
00:36:39.000 Not everybody smokes weed for the health benefit of it, you know what I mean?
00:36:44.000 And it's the same thing with mushrooms.
00:36:47.000 Some people are partying with it.
00:36:48.000 And some people are trying to actually get You know a benefit from it in the way that will help them With whatever issue that they're having that they they feel it could help for So, you know, I think there's there's a different sort of responsibility On on each shoulder and I think the user knows that right?
00:37:09.000 So like if you're partying on it, you know where your limits are when you're using it for a medical use You're sort of like afraid to step on the gas, you know what I mean?
00:37:19.000 So I think you go a little slowly in that aspect there, you know?
00:37:24.000 Because I think people still are genuinely afraid of it because they don't know about it.
00:37:28.000 They've only ever heard and they're trying to experiment with it.
00:37:31.000 But that's when you need someone who's experienced in it who can actually guide you through.
00:37:37.000 So if you want to do a little bit more and get a little bit more of the experience or you want to pull back.
00:37:41.000 Yeah.
00:37:42.000 Because, you know, you always got the assholes.
00:37:44.000 More!
00:37:45.000 Do more!
00:37:46.000 Right.
00:37:46.000 And then also the other problem with it being illegal is some of the people that provide you that experience are weirdos.
00:37:53.000 Yeah.
00:37:54.000 You gotta hang out with some weirdos if you want to trip.
00:37:57.000 And some of them are cool.
00:37:58.000 A lot of them are cool.
00:37:59.000 Because it's illegal.
00:38:01.000 Shrooms can cause seizures?
00:38:02.000 Not a lot of studies have been done.
00:38:03.000 That's all I can find.
00:38:04.000 Is that, yeah, it can cause seizures.
00:38:07.000 So don't mix it with things that can raise your blood pressure or heart rate.
00:38:12.000 Shrooms increase your heart rate.
00:38:14.000 Shrooms can increase your heart rate in the 150 to 160 range at a normal dose.
00:38:19.000 Whoa!
00:38:20.000 You're burning calories on shrooms.
00:38:21.000 Of course you are.
00:38:22.000 You're freaking the fuck out.
00:38:23.000 You can't believe what you're seeing.
00:38:25.000 Oh, and you shouldn't take it with molly, Ritalin, or other psychostimulant drugs.
00:38:31.000 This is especially true if you have a history of heart disease or blood pressure problems.
00:38:35.000 That's the most I could find.
00:38:37.000 You gotta drink a lot of water, too.
00:38:39.000 Well, maybe those are the drugs that we're talking about.
00:38:41.000 So what was it again?
00:38:43.000 Antidepressants, what does it say?
00:38:45.000 Antihistamines, benzodiazepines, or stimulants.
00:38:48.000 Because that's a serotonin crash that can happen.
00:38:50.000 Right.
00:38:50.000 So that makes sense if you were on, like, Xanax, right?
00:38:54.000 That's benzodiazepine.
00:38:56.000 And then you did a trip.
00:38:58.000 Probably not so bueno.
00:38:59.000 Not so good.
00:39:00.000 And, you know, people don't do that sort of diligence before they go and do that shit.
00:39:04.000 It's like someone has, hey, let's do some mushrooms.
00:39:06.000 Exactly.
00:39:07.000 And you don't know if your homie or homegirl are, like, on some medication.
00:39:11.000 You're on some asthma medication or something.
00:39:14.000 Interacts badly with it.
00:39:15.000 Yeah.
00:39:15.000 Not good.
00:39:16.000 Not good.
00:39:17.000 Yeah, that's why it should be fucking legal.
00:39:19.000 You should leave it up to people.
00:39:21.000 It's a freedom issue.
00:39:23.000 It really is.
00:39:23.000 And people that don't understand that, like, conservatives should get on board with it because it's a fucking freedom issue.
00:39:29.000 And people want to connect it to, like, liberals and hippies.
00:39:33.000 And they push it onto the side of the left instead of looking at it like as a population of human beings that value freedom.
00:39:40.000 You value freedom.
00:39:41.000 I value your freedom to be able to have a drink.
00:39:44.000 If you want to smoke a cigar or a cigarette, do whatever the fuck you feel like doing.
00:39:48.000 You are an adult.
00:39:49.000 I value your freedom as long as you're not hurting me.
00:39:52.000 And if you can show that that thing actually has a benefit to a lot of people and it's being explored like in legitimate scientific circles and legitimate therapy circles, Shouldn't we take a fucking look at making that legal?
00:40:06.000 Yeah.
00:40:06.000 This is crazy that you have something that grows in the ground naturally.
00:40:11.000 It grows on cow shit.
00:40:13.000 It's all over the world naturally.
00:40:15.000 People have been taking it for centuries.
00:40:17.000 Who knows how many thousands of years?
00:40:20.000 Who knows?
00:40:21.000 When did they start taking mushrooms?
00:40:23.000 What's the earliest known use of mushrooms?
00:40:26.000 That's a good question.
00:40:29.000 Because they get pretty good at that.
00:40:31.000 They get ayahuasca down, I think.
00:40:33.000 I think they know when that was.
00:40:35.000 They think that peyote is a weird one.
00:40:38.000 Yeah.
00:40:39.000 Peyote, they say, is really recent.
00:40:41.000 I have not tried that one.
00:40:42.000 The answer Google gives me is that.
00:40:45.000 Some 6,000 years ago.
00:40:47.000 Prehistoric rock art near Villa de Jumo in Spain suggests that the Psilocybe Hispanica was used in religious rituals 6,000 years ago.
00:40:56.000 Sounds about right.
00:40:57.000 Wow.
00:40:58.000 Imagine what they thought they were seeing or what they were actually seeing in that time.
00:41:03.000 Oh, my God.
00:41:04.000 Of course.
00:41:05.000 That's what John Marco Allegro said is the birth of Christianity.
00:41:09.000 He said it was all about psilocybin mushrooms.
00:41:11.000 He was this guy who was an ordained minister who became agnostic as he was studying theology, and he was one of the people that was hired to decipher the Dead Sea Scrolls.
00:41:21.000 So for 14 years, this guy worked in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
00:41:24.000 And then he wrote this book, The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross.
00:41:27.000 And in the book he was saying this was all about consumption of psychedelic mushrooms and fertility rituals.
00:41:33.000 That's what these original stories were about.
00:41:35.000 Crazy.
00:41:36.000 And he believed that what...
00:41:37.000 And this guy was like a straight-laced scientist.
00:41:40.000 He was like a straight-laced academic, rather.
00:41:43.000 He wasn't like a guy who was a tripper.
00:41:46.000 He wasn't a Timothy Leary type dude.
00:41:48.000 He was just a regular scholar who was like...
00:41:50.000 What I get out of this and the origin of these words, you can go back.
00:41:55.000 He believed that the word Christ came from an ancient Sumerian word that meant a mushroom covered in God's semen.
00:42:04.000 So people thought that when it rained, it was God coming on the earth.
00:42:09.000 And then these mushrooms would rise out.
00:42:11.000 Because you know how quick mushrooms go.
00:42:13.000 And then they would eat these mushrooms and trip balls.
00:42:16.000 So of course...
00:42:18.000 They thought that they were in contact with God through this gift.
00:42:24.000 Yeah, God's medicine right there.
00:42:25.000 Maybe they were right.
00:42:26.000 Could be.
00:42:27.000 Maybe they were right.
00:42:28.000 Some of the things people see.
00:42:31.000 Maybe they were right, man.
00:42:33.000 Maybe that's what it is.
00:42:34.000 Yeah, some of the things people see are incredible, man.
00:42:37.000 It's funny how we're resistant to that.
00:42:40.000 It's funny how people are resistant to that.
00:42:42.000 It goes against the norm wash that we've been living under for so long.
00:42:47.000 Yeah.
00:42:47.000 What was that, Jamie?
00:42:48.000 Putting together the cows and the dung.
00:42:50.000 Can I see it?
00:42:52.000 I feel like we've seen the bull.
00:42:53.000 Right.
00:42:54.000 This image before.
00:42:55.000 Right.
00:42:55.000 Then to see the mushrooms next to it.
00:42:56.000 I don't know that I've seen that before.
00:42:58.000 They're so close.
00:42:59.000 Yeah.
00:42:59.000 That's a trip.
00:43:00.000 There's been a correlation since that's where they grow, you know?
00:43:02.000 It must be.
00:43:03.000 I mean, they must know that they grow on cow shit.
00:43:05.000 That's where they grow.
00:43:07.000 So Spain...
00:43:09.000 Do you know where Duncan Trussell used to live?
00:43:11.000 How crazy is this?
00:43:12.000 They used to give the cows an anti-fungal feed so that their shit couldn't grow mushrooms in them.
00:43:20.000 It was in Asheville, North Carolina.
00:43:23.000 And so many kids were going out there and just picking mushrooms off cow shit and just tripping their fucking balls off that they had to put a stop to it.
00:43:31.000 You goddamn hippies are going to ruin this town!
00:43:33.000 So they poisoned the cows.
00:43:35.000 They gave this cow this antifungal shit.
00:43:37.000 I don't know if it poisoned the cow.
00:43:38.000 I'm just being hyperbolic.
00:43:40.000 But they gave the cow this antifungal shit.
00:43:43.000 So they couldn't do what it naturally does, which makes the perfect habitat for psilocybin.
00:43:48.000 So they starved out all the magic mushrooms.
00:43:51.000 I don't even know if that worked.
00:43:53.000 Because that was what Duncan told me.
00:43:54.000 We should research.
00:43:55.000 That might be a total myth.
00:43:57.000 Even if it did, those kids found another way to get mushrooms.
00:44:01.000 Oh, yeah.
00:44:01.000 Once they got them, they got them.
00:44:03.000 Once they got them, they got them.
00:44:04.000 There's so many ways to get any of that now.
00:44:07.000 Yeah.
00:44:07.000 I mean, there's so many places, though, where it grows naturally still to this day.
00:44:12.000 It's a Schedule I substance that just grows naturally.
00:44:15.000 You don't have to process it.
00:44:17.000 You don't have to do anything.
00:44:18.000 You just pick it and eat it.
00:44:19.000 And it's illegal, which is like, okay.
00:44:22.000 I think that'll change.
00:44:23.000 I mean, you see more acceptance of it as of late and the fact that they're willing to study it and talk about the actual good it's been doing in those studies.
00:44:34.000 I mean, it seems like it's a move in the right direction.
00:44:37.000 It's just slow.
00:44:38.000 It's just slow.
00:44:39.000 It's just always slow, like with cannabis.
00:44:41.000 I mean, we all know it should have been legal like probably five, ten years ago already.
00:44:45.000 There's a thing that happens where preconceived notions are very hard to let go.
00:44:50.000 And people have them about drugs, they have them about culture, they have them about a lot of things.
00:44:56.000 But drugs are a big one.
00:44:58.000 Because I've had my own preconceived notions about cannabis.
00:45:01.000 When I was a kid, I didn't really do anything.
00:45:04.000 I didn't party at all from the time when I was like 15 until I was like 21. Because I was training and fighting and that's all I did.
00:45:11.000 So I was a nerd, sort of.
00:45:13.000 I was kind of socially awkward.
00:45:15.000 And I thought that people who were getting high were just wasting their life, and they weren't going to get nowhere.
00:45:21.000 I wasn't going to do that.
00:45:22.000 I rarely drank, and if I did, I was always mad at myself.
00:45:25.000 I was like, you're going to fucking slow your body down, this is going to fuck you up, and you're not going to be able to achieve your goals.
00:45:30.000 I was too maniacal in this mindset, and I thought that weed was for losers.
00:45:35.000 Until I started hanging out with Eddie Bravo, and Eddie Bravo and I were doing jiu-jitsu together at John Jock Machado's, this is like 98, somewhere around then, and he starts talking about how much weed influences his music, and I go, really?
00:45:50.000 And he goes, yeah, he goes, jiu-jitsu techniques, like I think a lot of them up when I'm high.
00:45:55.000 I'm like, that's crazy because I thought weed just slows you down.
00:45:57.000 He goes, no, no, no, no.
00:45:58.000 That's just like what people who don't smoke weed think.
00:46:01.000 I'm like, okay, let's try this shit.
00:46:03.000 So we went, got high, and then we went to Baskin and Robbins.
00:46:08.000 And I remember this is like me high for the first time in, I don't know, More than a decade probably, right?
00:46:14.000 Eating this fucking ice cream going, dude, this is the greatest fucking flavor I've ever experienced in my life.
00:46:22.000 Ice cream sundae when you're high for the first time.
00:46:26.000 Literally, I had never been high before because the time before that was like, maybe I was like in my early 20s, like 21 or something like that.
00:46:35.000 It had been a long fucking time.
00:46:38.000 Eight, nine years.
00:46:39.000 I'm like, no weed.
00:46:40.000 Weed slows you down.
00:46:41.000 Weed's bad for you.
00:46:42.000 To like, oh my god, this is magic.
00:46:45.000 This is magic.
00:46:46.000 This food tastes so good.
00:46:47.000 It tastes way better than it would taste.
00:46:49.000 You appreciate it a lot more.
00:46:51.000 Oh my god, you appreciate friendship more.
00:46:53.000 And I was like, this is amazing.
00:46:55.000 I was like, oh, I didn't know what this was.
00:46:57.000 I was like, I thought this was just for losers.
00:46:59.000 I thought this was this thing, and you take it, and you're like, wow, man.
00:47:04.000 It's all the misinformation that they put out throughout all them years, man, to keep people from it.
00:47:11.000 It's also, sometimes when you're stoned, it's hard to express yourself.
00:47:14.000 True.
00:47:15.000 And sometimes shit comes out, and it does seem like, you know, fucking, I fucking wonder, man.
00:47:22.000 Yeah, you could get that.
00:47:24.000 And if you're sober, and people are high, sometimes that can be annoying.
00:47:27.000 Like, if I'm doing concentrates, man, that's when it gets tough.
00:47:31.000 Like, flour I got all day.
00:47:33.000 You know, that's nothing for me.
00:47:34.000 But it's the concentrates and, like, the RSO. Have you done the RSO or the full-spectrum hemp oil yet?
00:47:42.000 I'm not fucking around with any of the things these kids are doing.
00:47:45.000 These dabsers.
00:47:47.000 These kids were bringing dab machines everywhere they go.
00:47:49.000 They're in another dimension, man.
00:47:51.000 Ah, man.
00:47:52.000 They're in a next-door dimension.
00:47:54.000 They're not living with us right now.
00:47:55.000 They're in another place.
00:47:56.000 It's crazy.
00:47:57.000 You know, because when they come to the show and stuff like that, some of them are very intimidated by that.
00:48:04.000 Like rappers most especially.
00:48:06.000 Rappers are intimidated by the dabs.
00:48:09.000 For real.
00:48:10.000 Like, they'll smoke the blunts.
00:48:12.000 They'll smoke the joints.
00:48:14.000 But my, you know, my peers, they don't like doing the dabs, man.
00:48:20.000 It's too strong for them.
00:48:21.000 It's too much.
00:48:22.000 It's too much for me.
00:48:24.000 For me, I got used to it.
00:48:26.000 Because I gotta be universal in my path in the stoner world, right?
00:48:32.000 Because everybody's always trying to take my fucking head off.
00:48:35.000 So I have to be ready for it.
00:48:37.000 Because there was one time these guys from Weedmaps, I was doing a 420 show in Colorado, and the dabs were new to us still, you know, and they weren't as clean yet, and they were just new in the culture, but not new to these guys,
00:48:52.000 right?
00:48:54.000 We all go to my hotel room, because I know these guys and stuff like that, but everybody's got their own dab rig, their own dab torch, and their own concentrates.
00:49:04.000 It's like they're Jedi's of dabbing, right?
00:49:07.000 Yeah.
00:49:08.000 We start off with one, and it's a hot dab.
00:49:11.000 This is before we start doing the low temp dabs.
00:49:13.000 Like, you know, that means heating the nail and then letting it cool down for about 40 seconds and then taking the hit so it's not hot as fuck, right?
00:49:22.000 This is when we're like heating the nail, let it cool down 10 seconds, and then go for it.
00:49:27.000 And man, that is the most devastating way you could do this, right?
00:49:30.000 So I took three hits.
00:49:33.000 We all apiece took three hits, right?
00:49:36.000 And there was probably about six or seven of us After 45 minutes, I called my boy over.
00:49:44.000 I said, get everybody the fuck out of here.
00:49:46.000 I need a few minutes to gather myself.
00:49:51.000 I had to meditate out of what I was feeling right then.
00:49:57.000 And I still had a show to do later on.
00:50:00.000 How many hours to the show?
00:50:01.000 It was like maybe four hours to the show, and I was still feeling it when we got to the show.
00:50:06.000 I was high as fuck.
00:50:07.000 Higher than I had been in a long time.
00:50:10.000 And none of those guys made it to the show.
00:50:13.000 They all went home and slept.
00:50:15.000 I went and did a fucking show, you know?
00:50:18.000 But after that, that's when I decided, okay, well, I don't, you know, dabs ain't my thing, but I'm gonna keep up on it so that I don't get my fucking head taken off again.
00:50:28.000 And, you know, so...
00:50:31.000 Other rappers, you know, have gone through the same thing where it's like, you know, they either don't try it at all because of the way it looks.
00:50:38.000 The torch to the nail, you know, is very cracky to us, you know what I mean?
00:50:42.000 So, like, a lot of them don't fuck with it that way, but some of them now and then will try.
00:50:48.000 And then they'll love the taste, but the high is so fucking extreme after that they don't want no part of it.
00:50:54.000 They'll just stick to the flower.
00:50:56.000 Rapper high levels are way higher than comedian high levels.
00:51:02.000 We smoke a lot.
00:51:03.000 Rappers smoke all day.
00:51:05.000 Yeah.
00:51:06.000 Like watching people like Snoop Dogg put down blunt after blunt and roll them, roll them himself, spark them up, put down another one, roll another one, spark it up.
00:51:18.000 Action Bronson.
00:51:19.000 How many joints did Action Bronson smoke on the show?
00:51:21.000 Yeah, he's an avid smoker.
00:51:23.000 I'll tell you what.
00:51:24.000 He had like eight, nine joints.
00:51:25.000 The one...
00:51:26.000 The one who's a monster, like myself in that regard, is Wiz Khalifa.
00:51:31.000 Oh, yeah.
00:51:31.000 That guy can smoke weed all day.
00:51:34.000 He can do the concentrates.
00:51:35.000 He does the bong hits.
00:51:36.000 I don't do the bong hits too much anymore.
00:51:38.000 But, like, the dabbing and that stuff I'll do.
00:51:42.000 But...
00:51:43.000 Yeah, he smokes like a monster.
00:51:44.000 And he's the perfect argument against weed makes you lazy.
00:51:48.000 Yeah, no, because he's always doing something.
00:51:51.000 He's always doing something.
00:51:52.000 He's training Muay Thai.
00:51:54.000 Training Muay Thai.
00:51:55.000 He's practically a pro fucking bowler.
00:51:57.000 Really?
00:51:58.000 Oh man, this dude and his partner Chevy Woods.
00:52:03.000 Those two guys, they hit the lanes like crazy.
00:52:06.000 No shit.
00:52:06.000 And they're fucking good.
00:52:08.000 I thought I was good.
00:52:09.000 I was good when I was a kid.
00:52:11.000 I'm okay now.
00:52:12.000 But when I saw them both, I said, if I'm going to go at them, I'm going to have to be getting my role together for about six months before I try these guys.
00:52:21.000 Because they're rolling high numbers up there.
00:52:23.000 Wow.
00:52:24.000 And they're doing that high as fuck.
00:52:27.000 You know, they're not sober in their role and sober.
00:52:30.000 They're high as fuck going in there, getting some good numbers, man.
00:52:34.000 I'll be like, okay, Wiz.
00:52:35.000 That makes sense, because bowling is a feel thing.
00:52:38.000 Yeah.
00:52:39.000 You know?
00:52:40.000 It makes sense that you would like a better feeling of where the ball's going to go if you're high.
00:52:44.000 For me, any physical activity when you're stoned, when you're an avid stoner, right?
00:52:49.000 To me, it puts you in a zone where you can concentrate more on the shit you do.
00:52:53.000 So, for instance, I do archery with my daughter, and beforehand, you know, I'll go smoke out before we go, and I'll just be comfortable.
00:53:04.000 As opposed to when I've tried it when I wasn't.
00:53:08.000 And there's just something like, it settles me in, my targeting's better, my breathing is better, all that.
00:53:16.000 And even as it relates to workouts, I feel like I could work out longer than if I'm, like, put it this way, for example, if I'm not stoned, I'll set the time that I'm gonna work out, hour and a half, and on that hour and a half,
00:53:32.000 I'll stop.
00:53:33.000 But if I'm stoned, I'll lose myself in it, and I'll go longer than that hour and a half.
00:53:40.000 And that's sort of what it does to me.
00:53:42.000 It just gives me that hyper-focus where I'm just locked in.
00:53:45.000 When I'm stoned, I'm getting more information.
00:53:49.000 It feels like I'm more, when I'm doing physical things like martial arts, for example.
00:53:55.000 When I'm stoned, I feel like my timing better.
00:53:59.000 I feel like when I'm supposed to move into something better.
00:54:03.000 I've had breakthroughs in technique from being high and hitting the bag because you realize there's just a perfect timing to the way it impacts.
00:54:14.000 You know, you're a martial artist.
00:54:15.000 I think it slows you down.
00:54:17.000 It allows you to, like, you know, not rush into...
00:54:22.000 Yeah.
00:54:22.000 To do it properly.
00:54:23.000 To do it properly.
00:54:24.000 Yeah, it makes you feel the technique.
00:54:26.000 Like, you feel your body moving, like, in a little bit more harmony.
00:54:30.000 Because sometimes when I'm not warmed up or maybe when, you know, I'm, you know, maybe I'm a little sore or something like that, you can kind of force things the wrong way.
00:54:39.000 And you can even hurt yourself doing that.
00:54:41.000 Yeah.
00:54:41.000 But when you're high, you almost like feel the way your muscles are.
00:54:45.000 Like when you do chin-ups when you're high, it's like you feel your back, you feel everything in it.
00:54:50.000 It just makes everything very hypersensitive.
00:54:52.000 Yeah, I always felt like when I went into the dojo when I was training, you know, when I went in sober, Yeah.
00:55:20.000 I would absorb it, like you said, absorb it more and focus on everything that I was doing, like, from the snap of the punches to the blocks and kicks and all that stuff, like, instead of rushing it and trying to go out and impress Sensei or,
00:55:36.000 you know, All that that you do because ego comes in as well when you're in a doji.
00:55:41.000 I want to be the best student in here.
00:55:44.000 It's almost like a competition sometimes, right?
00:55:47.000 But when I'd go in stone, I wouldn't even think about that.
00:55:50.000 It was just all about absorbing what he was giving to us that day and then trying to do it and slowing my mind down to do it right.
00:55:59.000 Yeah.
00:56:00.000 You know where it really helps?
00:56:01.000 Stretching.
00:56:02.000 Yeah, stretching.
00:56:03.000 Yeah.
00:56:04.000 When you stretch when you're high, it's like you're releasing things.
00:56:07.000 You're like...
00:56:08.000 High yoga.
00:56:09.000 Yeah, high yoga.
00:56:11.000 Well, that was apparently what a lot of the ancient yogis used to do.
00:56:15.000 They used to take hashish.
00:56:17.000 Hashish, yeah.
00:56:18.000 They would take hashish and get into these funky poses, which makes sense.
00:56:21.000 Yeah.
00:56:22.000 If you were high as fuck and you're all doing, that's what you'd do.
00:56:25.000 That's what you'd do.
00:56:26.000 If you were fucking high as fuck on hash, stand there.
00:56:30.000 I would love I would do it I mean sometimes like sometimes I'll meditate and I'll be high as fuck when I'm meditating and that that allows me to go longer yeah because sometimes you know like I'm a gemini and if I'm not high man I'm high strong and I try to rush I'll rush through shit so like if if I mean to like meditate for 10 minutes and I'm not stoned before I do it I'll be trying to rush the meditation I'm like looking at the time is it 10 minutes yet You know what I mean?
00:57:00.000 Yeah.
00:57:01.000 But if I get stoned, I'm not even looking at the watch.
00:57:03.000 I'm just...
00:57:04.000 You're in it.
00:57:05.000 You're just in it.
00:57:06.000 Yeah, time flies.
00:57:07.000 You don't even recognize it.
00:57:09.000 Yeah.
00:57:09.000 If you were that high, I mean, have you ever taken a yoga class high?
00:57:13.000 Like, really high?
00:57:15.000 Like, hashish high?
00:57:17.000 Hashish high?
00:57:18.000 No.
00:57:18.000 Neither have I. I've taken a yoga class mildly high, and it was great.
00:57:23.000 It was amazing.
00:57:24.000 I would imagine if you were hashish high, and you're eating nothing but lentils, and you're on this vegan diet, and just everyday home, everyday stretching, everyday doing it, you're probably tripping balls.
00:57:38.000 You're tripping balls.
00:57:39.000 Tripping balls.
00:57:40.000 And you're healing yourself, too, though, while you're tripping those balls.
00:57:43.000 Yeah.
00:57:44.000 That would be a fascinating person to talk to.
00:57:47.000 Yeah.
00:57:48.000 There's plenty of them out there, man.
00:57:50.000 Yeah.
00:57:51.000 Especially these new age yogis, man.
00:57:54.000 Those dudes, they would be like rappers, too.
00:57:56.000 They'd try to smoke your head off.
00:57:57.000 Oh, yeah.
00:57:58.000 Definitely.
00:57:59.000 How many chillums can you smoke?
00:58:00.000 That was like a thing with these dudes, these yogis.
00:58:06.000 Yeah, you know, that's the thing.
00:58:08.000 When you're known for something like that, man, they're trying to test.
00:58:11.000 People coming for you.
00:58:12.000 Oh, they are coming.
00:58:13.000 Kenneth Sino used to talk about that with cocaine.
00:58:16.000 He would say that when he would go to a party, they'd go, It's him!
00:58:19.000 It's him!
00:58:20.000 And they'd put this giant line out.
00:58:22.000 Oh, man.
00:58:23.000 And I'd just have to fucking, fucking get through.
00:58:25.000 So he would snort the line and almost have a heart attack.
00:58:28.000 Hilarious bit.
00:58:29.000 Yeah, man.
00:58:29.000 You can't do that shit today.
00:58:30.000 That's for sure.
00:58:31.000 No.
00:58:32.000 No, no, no.
00:58:33.000 No, no, no.
00:58:35.000 I mean, this is the byproduct of illegality, too.
00:58:38.000 Yeah.
00:58:38.000 I mean, that's how this happens.
00:58:41.000 If it's illegal, then it's unregulated.
00:58:42.000 If it's unregulated, sometimes there's poison in it.
00:58:45.000 Yeah.
00:58:46.000 And that's the problem, man.
00:58:47.000 That's the problem.
00:58:48.000 It's crazy.
00:58:50.000 Going back to what we said in the beginning, that people would even gamble knowing that that is a possibility.
00:58:55.000 Unless you know where it's coming from.
00:58:58.000 Do you think that this country could survive legalization of hard drugs like cocaine?
00:59:05.000 What do you think?
00:59:06.000 Do you envision that that would...
00:59:07.000 Like, we all want cannabis, and it seems like cannabis is going to happen.
00:59:10.000 It seems like it's on the way to happening.
00:59:12.000 I think you have to educate people more and be open to educate them properly instead of propaganda education, where you're just telling them half-truths to let them know what you want them to know.
00:59:24.000 Like, in Europe, they're a little bit more with the shits in terms of...
00:59:29.000 How they deal with alcohol, how they deal with drugs, how they deal with nudity on TV, just little things like that.
00:59:38.000 We are so uptight over here that we're afraid to teach people about these things because maybe that education will lead them there as opposed to being upfront with them.
00:59:51.000 Like, look, this is what it is.
00:59:53.000 This is what happens.
00:59:55.000 And all the other shit instead of, hey, this over here, don't do it.
01:00:00.000 Well, the problem is everybody's finding out from everybody else.
01:00:03.000 Right.
01:00:05.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:00:06.000 You have to educate them properly.
01:00:08.000 You're not getting good information from your friends about how much molly you should take.
01:00:12.000 Right.
01:00:12.000 You can't let someone else educate them.
01:00:15.000 You have to be the one to do it instead of the sheltering that we've gotten through most of our lives here.
01:00:21.000 You know, us growing up, our generation, our parents didn't want to tell us shit.
01:00:24.000 Just don't do that.
01:00:26.000 And sometimes they didn't know how to explain why.
01:00:29.000 Right.
01:00:30.000 But we are in a different place in different time where energy, I mean, information is vast.
01:00:36.000 Yeah.
01:00:37.000 And you can get it at the click of a finger, you know, click at a key on your computer, you know what I mean?
01:00:43.000 You just got to also take into account that people that live like us today, humans listening to this in 2023, This is a new type of person.
01:00:52.000 This is a new type of informed person.
01:00:56.000 People are so much more informed, even misinformed, than they've ever been before.
01:01:00.000 You're dealing with an information overload that's never, never existed before.
01:01:04.000 And, you know, if you just go back a couple generations, like my grandparents came from Italy, so we're talking about, you know, they came over here during the Depression.
01:01:16.000 They lived on a farm.
01:01:17.000 It was horrible, brutal shit in Italy.
01:01:21.000 They came over to America.
01:01:22.000 Those people that just got on a boat before YouTube and just moved their whole family across the country, those are wild people, man.
01:01:31.000 And they were just trying to escape whatever the fuck was going on in Europe, which is probably even worse.
01:01:35.000 Fuck it, I'll take a chance on a boat.
01:01:37.000 And then they got to America and they fucking sign up.
01:01:39.000 You could just be an American back then.
01:01:41.000 Yeah.
01:01:42.000 You know, you could just show up and you were an American.
01:01:44.000 It's not like today where it's like these rigorous background checks.
01:01:47.000 Oh, man.
01:01:48.000 Back then, they just let immigrants in, right?
01:01:50.000 What was it like to become an immigrant to America in 1920?
01:01:54.000 I mean, did they turn anybody away?
01:01:56.000 I don't think they turned anybody away, but they definitely put them through it.
01:02:01.000 Am I talking out of my ass?
01:02:02.000 I mean, did they have an extensive thing that they do to let someone become an American citizen back then?
01:02:08.000 It seems like it's hard today.
01:02:10.000 I think for some folks, they got put to work.
01:02:13.000 You know, yeah, you can come in here, but we need this and this and that, and you're going to do that.
01:02:19.000 Oh, okay.
01:02:20.000 You know, like, have you been watching Yellowstone at all?
01:02:23.000 Yes.
01:02:23.000 Have you watched prequel, like the 1883, 19...
01:02:27.000 No, not yet.
01:02:27.000 I love Yellowstone, though.
01:02:28.000 Oh, man.
01:02:28.000 It's a great show.
01:02:30.000 Watch the prequel.
01:02:31.000 The prequel, 1883 is...
01:02:34.000 I heard it's amazing.
01:02:35.000 Based off the Duttons coming from, I think, Tennessee or wherever, or Wyoming or something.
01:02:40.000 I think it's Tennessee.
01:02:41.000 But, like, them trying to get to Oregon.
01:02:43.000 The original place they're trying to get to is Oregon, but they never make it there.
01:02:48.000 I won't blow the story.
01:02:49.000 And they end up going to Montana, but...
01:02:53.000 Seeing how they trekked from one side of the country to the other and the shit they had to deal with with bandits all along those trails and just the elements, man.
01:03:05.000 Coming into the country and having to go across it.
01:03:09.000 In the 1883 one, it's like they're going with a group of people.
01:03:14.000 It's not just their family.
01:03:16.000 They're going with a group of people that came from Germany and that are trying to go to Oregon because there's free land there.
01:03:23.000 They don't have any money.
01:03:25.000 All they have is what they have with them that they brought from Germany.
01:03:30.000 They're prospective parts of Europe, and they're trying to get from wherever they're at to Oregon, and on the way, man, the shit that they go through.
01:03:40.000 And it gives you sort of like that idea of what people were dealing with in that time.
01:03:46.000 Yeah, we can't even imagine living like that, and that's the only way you could live.
01:03:51.000 That's the way people lived back then.
01:03:53.000 So what we're talking about today in 2023 is just a few generations removed from that.
01:03:59.000 I know it doesn't seem like it, but I had this joke that I used to do about the United States was founded in 1776. People lived to be 100. That's three people ago.
01:04:10.000 Like, there's three people ago...
01:04:12.000 That lived back...
01:04:13.000 That we're living like savages that brought slaves over on wooden boats powered by the wind.
01:04:17.000 Three people ago.
01:04:19.000 Yeah.
01:04:19.000 Like, that's how recent civilization is, like, in terms of, like, what we enjoy today.
01:04:25.000 Like, this civilized view of the world, informed view of the world.
01:04:29.000 This is really recent.
01:04:31.000 Yeah.
01:04:32.000 It's evolved into something really different.
01:04:35.000 Very, very different.
01:04:37.000 Yeah.
01:04:37.000 I mean, it's going to be a power struggle and there's going to be a lot of fucking weirdness with people trying to dictate how you think and feel and what to do and what not to do.
01:04:45.000 But at the end of the day, more people are being heard than ever before.
01:04:49.000 More people's voices are being heard than ever before.
01:04:52.000 More important issues are being raised that people weren't aware of.
01:04:57.000 More shit that you're not hearing about mainstream news that's really affecting your life.
01:05:01.000 And you're finding out more about people.
01:05:03.000 There's way more information.
01:05:04.000 It's an overall net positive.
01:05:06.000 It's just a rocky-ass road.
01:05:07.000 For sure.
01:05:07.000 With all these platforms, right?
01:05:09.000 Before these platforms existed where you could be a voice, maybe you didn't intend to, but you became one through one of these platforms.
01:05:19.000 Before they existed, all you ever had were the articles that might pop up on this website by this writer or that writer or whatever they got on the news.
01:05:29.000 And obviously, they don't ever always tell you the full story on anything.
01:05:34.000 But when you got people that now can go on to any social media platform and tell you exactly what they saw without worrying about what the FCC is going to say about the reporting or what your senior editor and staff is going to say about how you brought this story,
01:05:53.000 you don't got to...
01:05:54.000 Don't worry about any of that.
01:05:55.000 Boom!
01:05:56.000 You could capture that, talk about it, and it go viral, and now you're a voice, because people are listening to you now.
01:06:06.000 It's a different world.
01:06:08.000 Yeah, that's different.
01:06:09.000 And you have a bunch of voices now.
01:06:11.000 People will be heard now.
01:06:13.000 But the problem with that, too, though, is now...
01:06:17.000 That you also have the troll generation that, like, they're there to troll anything.
01:06:22.000 Even if it's really good information, they're there to, you know, just bring it all down.
01:06:29.000 Because that's what they do.
01:06:31.000 It doesn't matter if it's something that's going to help someone.
01:06:35.000 There's always those folks that want to come tear it down.
01:06:39.000 There's always people that want to throw rocks at windows.
01:06:41.000 Right.
01:06:42.000 Yeah, that's true.
01:06:43.000 But I kind of think the one thing that they do is they strengthen up the defense of whatever you're trying to promote.
01:06:50.000 Like, it has to become more undeniable.
01:06:53.000 Yeah.
01:06:54.000 If trolls can crack your defenses.
01:06:56.000 You got to use them as fuel, basically.
01:06:59.000 Yeah.
01:06:59.000 You know?
01:07:00.000 David Goggins says he takes all of his haters, like all the shit that they said to him, and he puts it on like a soundtrack, and he listens to it when he runs.
01:07:10.000 He says it out.
01:07:11.000 He reads it out.
01:07:12.000 Oh, shit.
01:07:13.000 You know how psycho he is?
01:07:14.000 That's his Rocky anthem?
01:07:15.000 Yeah.
01:07:16.000 Dude, he puts shit that people say about him, he puts it on an audio track and runs on it.
01:07:22.000 You know, I would imagine that's likened to a boxer putting up the picture of the other boxer that's been talking shit the whole time, or MMA fighter, you know what I mean?
01:07:33.000 Like, boom, here's this fucker on the wall.
01:07:35.000 And in the movie, on the day of the fight, he rips the poster down, you motherfucker.
01:07:39.000 Fuck you, I got you, bitch.
01:07:43.000 That is an interesting way to fuel up, to record all your haters' statements.
01:07:50.000 It's just playing back to yourself.
01:07:52.000 If you listen to David's life story, David has two incredible books.
01:07:57.000 They're amazing.
01:07:58.000 And one of the things about the books that's so amazing is you realize what he endured as a child and what he went through, the abuse that he received.
01:08:08.000 How he came out of that this like unstoppable dude And he was like fat at one point in time.
01:08:15.000 He's open about all these like 300 pounds just drinking milkshakes and he couldn't even run around the block And then he turned himself into that dude.
01:08:22.000 He unlocked it.
01:08:23.000 Yeah You know that goes to show you the strength that the human spirit has you can be shit on your whole life Deprived of these opportunities here there Maybe not have the guidance from your parents or whatever,
01:08:40.000 or maybe not even have any, because some kids get abandoned and stuff like that.
01:08:45.000 And to be able to pull out of that and that not be the anchor that holds you down for the rest of your life, and that's your excuse.
01:08:53.000 Like, oh, well, the reason I wasn't able to do this was because of...
01:08:59.000 You can always get past these things.
01:09:01.000 You just got to look inside and then eventually let all that shit go and use it as fuel and strength.
01:09:07.000 And it's great to hear when people actually do this because it is possible.
01:09:12.000 We do have this ability in us.
01:09:15.000 We just got to look deep inside even when it's ugly because that's the thing, right?
01:09:20.000 Everybody wants it all nice.
01:09:21.000 They want a great story and You know, you don't want all the ugliness, but sometimes life is ugly and we deal with it as people, depending how you grew up, your upbringing or, you know, you grew up in poverty or whatever.
01:09:37.000 These are things that you deal with, but it doesn't define you.
01:09:41.000 You could look within and unlock that shit that unlocks your full potential to take you out of that situation and put you in a better place and allow you to evolve and grow and to be a better person.
01:09:56.000 And not perpetuate any of the shit you went through to now your kids or whoever else.
01:10:04.000 That is possible.
01:10:05.000 People just gotta know that that's possible.
01:10:08.000 It is possible.
01:10:09.000 And then, you know, there's people that take it to different levels.
01:10:13.000 Some people just improve their life and then there's guys like Goggins who's just always trying to push the boundaries of what's physically possible for a human body to endure.
01:10:23.000 Which is just a nutty way to live your life.
01:10:25.000 It's crazy.
01:10:27.000 Run hundreds and hundreds of miles.
01:10:28.000 You know, his knees were fucked up.
01:10:31.000 Like so fucked up that the doctor looked at it and said, I can't even believe you can walk on these knees.
01:10:36.000 Forget about run thousands of miles.
01:10:38.000 Yeah.
01:10:39.000 Like he was just bone on bone on his knees and just enduring pain.
01:10:42.000 It's crazy.
01:10:42.000 Till the wheels fall off.
01:10:43.000 You know what I mean?
01:10:44.000 Till the wheels fall off.
01:10:45.000 That's the human spirit.
01:10:46.000 I mean, there's one of these dudes who's a...
01:10:50.000 He goes up Everest and he conquered like the...
01:10:56.000 What is it?
01:10:57.000 How many summits are there that...
01:11:00.000 Oh, you mean Nimstein?
01:11:01.000 Yeah.
01:11:02.000 How do you say his name?
01:11:03.000 He was a guest on the podcast.
01:11:05.000 I don't want to fuck up the pronunciation.
01:11:08.000 I mean, that's crazy.
01:11:09.000 That's an amazing documentary.
01:11:11.000 Was it 12 Peaks?
01:11:12.000 Yeah, 12 Peaks.
01:11:13.000 There you go.
01:11:13.000 I mean, when you think...
01:11:16.000 What it takes to do that once.
01:11:18.000 Nims Purja and his, uh, it's like, is Nims Jai his, um, Instagram handle?
01:11:25.000 Is that what it is?
01:11:27.000 Uh, but fascinating dude.
01:11:29.000 Yeah.
01:11:29.000 And he, um, you know, just had, it was a, like a special operator and, um, Had incredible endurance.
01:11:40.000 His endurance, what he's capable of doing is fucking extraordinary.
01:11:45.000 He goes up there with no air, man.
01:11:47.000 He doesn't have assisted air, and apparently his VO2 max is through the roof.
01:11:53.000 That's crazy.
01:11:54.000 When you think about what it takes to do one.
01:11:57.000 One!
01:11:58.000 And he's done twelve.
01:11:59.000 And he was banging them off quick.
01:12:02.000 You know what's crazy?
01:12:04.000 Speaking of that, did you catch the one about when the earthquake hit?
01:12:10.000 They were at Everest, and it hit two different places, I think, in the city.
01:12:19.000 Well, it affected three different places.
01:12:21.000 It affected the city, this small village, I can't remember what it was called, and the people that were climbing up Everest.
01:12:28.000 There was like two camps.
01:12:31.000 And the people that were in Camp 1, they got stuck up there for some time because when the earthquake hit, like, they had no idea on that day what was happening for them, right?
01:12:44.000 But the people that were at base camp, what happened there, a lot of them got wiped out.
01:12:50.000 It was crazy.
01:12:51.000 Was it an avalanche?
01:12:52.000 Yeah, it was an avalanche that came.
01:12:54.000 It's a...
01:12:56.000 It's a documentary that tells you what happened in that earthquake.
01:12:59.000 There you go, Aftershock.
01:13:01.000 Man, it devastated three places like you wouldn't believe, man.
01:13:06.000 I mean, because a lot of that is old structure, yeah.
01:13:10.000 Look at the devastation from Avalanche.
01:13:12.000 That's crazy.
01:13:14.000 Yeah, from base camp over there.
01:13:16.000 And this is in the city of Nepal, I believe.
01:13:20.000 I want to talk about living in a totally different way.
01:13:23.000 Yeah.
01:13:24.000 Living up there at the base of those mountains.
01:13:28.000 Man.
01:13:29.000 What?
01:13:30.000 What the fuck, man?
01:13:32.000 I can't imagine being up there during an earthquake knowing that the avalanche is coming down.
01:13:36.000 That's gotta be one of the most fucked up ways to go, an avalanche.
01:13:40.000 Yeah, I mean...
01:13:41.000 Just seeing this mountain of snow coming your way.
01:13:43.000 Imagine how many bodies are buried in that mountain.
01:13:46.000 That mountain's alive.
01:13:48.000 Well, that's how those, like, Iceman dudes, right?
01:13:50.000 Yeah.
01:13:50.000 When they found that dude in the glacier?
01:13:52.000 Yeah.
01:13:52.000 Completely frozen is probably how he got taken out.
01:13:55.000 Yeah.
01:13:55.000 Something similar.
01:13:56.000 Or fell in a crack somewhere.
01:13:58.000 Got wiped out.
01:14:01.000 Was I just going to ask you?
01:14:03.000 What were we just talking about before that?
01:14:07.000 It was pronunciation on dudes' names.
01:14:10.000 No, I lost it.
01:14:11.000 No, we passed it.
01:14:11.000 God damn it, this is marijuana.
01:14:13.000 That stoner thing.
01:14:14.000 It is.
01:14:15.000 The thing I was looking up before that was the immigration laws.
01:14:17.000 Oh yeah, that was what it was.
01:14:19.000 Oh, okay, so I have 1928. With the change of when all this started going down.
01:14:25.000 Okay.
01:14:26.000 After World War I, America became an isolationist nation in December 1920. In the context of isolationism, the international influenza pandemic, and a post-war economic recession, the US House of Representatives voted to end all immigration to the United States for one year.
01:14:42.000 So that was just one year, though.
01:14:44.000 So then they added...
01:14:46.000 So it got interesting right down here.
01:14:47.000 Quota Act 1921. They called it midnight races, where boats had to get into the shore by midnight, or they were going to get fined for bringing people that exceeded the quota.
01:14:57.000 Wow.
01:14:57.000 So they have to get in there quick?
01:14:59.000 Mm-hmm.
01:14:59.000 So they're racing to get to shore?
01:15:01.000 Oh, my God.
01:15:02.000 100%.
01:15:02.000 If they came an hour later, though, they'd be allowed in on the next day's...
01:15:07.000 Quota, which sounds like it gets confusing.
01:15:10.000 1924, they figured it out.
01:15:11.000 So for three years, it sounded like it was chaos.
01:15:13.000 Wow.
01:15:15.000 1923 is that second part of Yellowstone.
01:15:19.000 I heard that's amazing, too.
01:15:21.000 That's good, too.
01:15:21.000 I heard they're all amazing.
01:15:22.000 That Taylor Sheridan's a bad motherfucker.
01:15:24.000 He's a bad motherfucker, I gotta say.
01:15:26.000 He's a bad motherfucker.
01:15:26.000 Tulsa King is also dope.
01:15:28.000 I've heard it's great.
01:15:29.000 I've heard it's great.
01:15:30.000 I haven't seen it.
01:15:31.000 You know, I thought it was going to be corny when I first saw it.
01:15:35.000 When I saw the trailers for it, I'm like, what's he doing?
01:15:37.000 So that's just a little mobster in Oklahoma?
01:15:39.000 And he's fucking killing it.
01:15:41.000 He's fucking killing it, I gotta tell you.
01:15:43.000 And the storyline is hilarious.
01:15:45.000 That's great.
01:15:46.000 Yeah.
01:15:47.000 Beautiful.
01:15:47.000 Tulsa King.
01:15:48.000 Yeah.
01:15:49.000 Bro, I can't think of Tulsa and King without thinking of Tiger King.
01:15:51.000 Yeah.
01:15:52.000 When I think of Oklahoma and Tiger King, that guy...
01:15:54.000 Man.
01:15:55.000 He had a run, though.
01:15:56.000 I was genuinely hoping Trump was gonna pardon him.
01:15:59.000 He got close.
01:16:01.000 That's because I think it would be so crazy.
01:16:02.000 He got close.
01:16:03.000 If Trump pardoned him, that would have been one of the wildest...
01:16:05.000 That would have been one of the wildest fuck yous.
01:16:08.000 Yeah.
01:16:08.000 Like, of all this shit...
01:16:10.000 How crazy is a presidential pardon?
01:16:12.000 How crazy is it that there's a thing that if you become president, you can decide that you're gonna take a person who's in jail for the rest of their life and go, nope, not anymore, Frank.
01:16:24.000 Now you're out in the streets.
01:16:25.000 What'd you do, Bobby?
01:16:26.000 You sold cocaine?
01:16:27.000 Well, don't you feel bad?
01:16:29.000 Good.
01:16:29.000 You're free.
01:16:30.000 You could do that if you're president, which is crazy.
01:16:33.000 How many pardons do they get to issue out?
01:16:36.000 That's a good question.
01:16:37.000 I don't know if there's a quota.
01:16:39.000 I don't know if there's a cap on it.
01:16:41.000 Because they all do at least one.
01:16:43.000 Oh, they do a lot.
01:16:44.000 Yeah, but what is the quota?
01:16:46.000 How many do they get to pardon?
01:16:49.000 I think they do.
01:16:50.000 What's the most anyone's ever done?
01:16:53.000 I'd like to know that.
01:16:54.000 If there is a cap, I'd like to know if everybody hits the cap.
01:16:57.000 Among the president's power is broad.
01:16:59.000 It is not without accepted limitations.
01:17:02.000 Perhaps the most important that the president can only pardon federal offenses.
01:17:06.000 He cannot interfere with state prosecutions.
01:17:09.000 Oh, so anything federal.
01:17:11.000 So he's unlimited in terms of if there is a federal issue, he could issue a pardon.
01:17:17.000 Is there a limit to presidential pardons?
01:17:20.000 What is the only exception to the president's pardon power under the Constitution?
01:17:25.000 The president's clemency power extends to all federal criminal offenses except in cases of impeachment.
01:17:31.000 So an impeachment...
01:17:33.000 Okay, but so...
01:17:34.000 So if the president's homie did a state crime...
01:17:39.000 He can't do shit for them, but if it's a federal crime, he can totally say, I'm going to give you this get-out-of-jail-free card.
01:17:46.000 That's wild.
01:17:47.000 That's wild.
01:17:47.000 It's wild that one man can have that much power.
01:17:50.000 Yeah.
01:17:51.000 That's so crazy.
01:17:52.000 And you know, like, what's different than state and federal is that state, you can get released early based off of what you do in that time.
01:18:01.000 If you're an ideal inmate, you know, working and educating yourself and, you know...
01:18:09.000 Good behavior, right, as they call it.
01:18:11.000 You might be able to cut some of your time off in state time, but federal time, you do pretty much 95% of it.
01:18:19.000 There is no splicing that time down.
01:18:22.000 So realistically, you want that card.
01:18:27.000 If you're creating federal crimes out there...
01:18:31.000 You want the president to have that card for you.
01:18:33.000 Could you imagine the amount of text message Donald Trump got before he left office?
01:18:38.000 To those particular guys?
01:18:40.000 Pardon my cousin.
01:18:40.000 Pardon my friend's boss.
01:18:42.000 Pardon this guy.
01:18:44.000 How many people do...
01:18:45.000 Ooh, look at this.
01:18:46.000 Barack Obama pardoned 1,927 people.
01:18:50.000 He seems like he's got the most of...
01:18:52.000 He got the most, yeah.
01:18:53.000 Trump only had 237. Huh.
01:18:55.000 It's all that was close.
01:18:57.000 It was real close.
01:18:58.000 237 loyal people.
01:19:01.000 They were so loyal, these people.
01:19:03.000 So it seems like Obama had the most.
01:19:06.000 But you know what, man?
01:19:07.000 How many people are in jail for the wrong reasons?
01:19:09.000 Too many.
01:19:09.000 How many people are in jail for bullshit?
01:19:12.000 How many people are in jail under false crimes?
01:19:16.000 Crimes they didn't commit?
01:19:17.000 A lot.
01:19:18.000 A lot.
01:19:18.000 Turns out a lot.
01:19:19.000 A lot.
01:19:20.000 They're still figuring out how they let some of these people out that they were supposed to let out for cannabis in some of the states where it's legal.
01:19:30.000 That's why the Last Prisoner Project exists, so that they can go and help those folks in those states.
01:19:39.000 Provided that it wasn't...
01:19:41.000 I believe that if it wasn't...
01:19:45.000 Let's say a violent crime attached to it, you know, obviously they're trying to get a lot of these people out.
01:19:52.000 Because I think if you got obviously a violent crime attached to your cannabis charge, they're not just letting you out.
01:20:00.000 You've got to deal with whatever that is.
01:20:02.000 But anything that was just cannabis-related possession that didn't have any of that, I mean, they're trying to get a lot of these people released.
01:20:12.000 They still haven't done that.
01:20:13.000 Could you imagine going to jail and then there was a story about a guy who got arrested in Phoenix.
01:20:21.000 We talked about this before.
01:20:23.000 He was a young kid and I want to say he's 20, 21 years old and he sold weed to this undercover cop a couple times and then they got him for selling more than an ounce Because he had a prior with something else,
01:20:42.000 like an assault, but that he did his time.
01:20:45.000 Here, a South Phoenix kid got 16 years in a slammer for one ounce of weed.
01:20:50.000 So 16 years, they're punishing him for this.
01:20:53.000 And now weed's legal in Phoenix.
01:20:56.000 So this dude is now in a jail for selling something to an undercover cop who kind of, like, come on, man.
01:21:03.000 The undercover cop thing is so fucking...
01:21:07.000 If we knew the cops were just 100% honest all the time...
01:21:11.000 Maybe.
01:21:12.000 But you're allowing cops to professionally lie and go undercover to try to buy weed from a kid?
01:21:18.000 Yeah.
01:21:18.000 Like, what are you wasting my tax dollars on, motherfucker?
01:21:20.000 They got nothing better to do.
01:21:22.000 Isn't there, like, someone stealing cars or breaking into houses out there that you can go handle?
01:21:26.000 Why the fuck are you bothering this dude selling little bags of weed for a little extra money?
01:21:32.000 Yeah.
01:21:32.000 And to be able to put that guy in a cage for 16 years.
01:21:35.000 For 16 years.
01:21:36.000 While there's legal stores there now, in the same place.
01:21:39.000 Yeah.
01:21:40.000 Insanity.
01:21:41.000 Yeah, I mean...
01:21:42.000 It's insanity.
01:21:43.000 Yeah, and he's one of those cases that they should look at, you know, with the last prisoner project.
01:21:49.000 They should look at a case like that and be like, okay, we're going to rally behind a guy like this.
01:21:54.000 Because, I mean...
01:21:55.000 The problem is he's not even wrongly accused.
01:21:58.000 The problem is the law as applied.
01:22:00.000 That's fucking horrendous to do that to a 21 year old kid to give him 16 years for selling an ounce and a half of weed or whatever it was.
01:22:09.000 Yeah.
01:22:10.000 Jesus Christ.
01:22:12.000 Yeah, it's crazy, man.
01:22:13.000 That's why people got to, you know, people got to make the change.
01:22:17.000 They can't depend on politicians for this.
01:22:19.000 You know what I mean?
01:22:20.000 Like, get the group of people that will go out there and do the work and put this on the state legislation and legalize it or decriminalize it in your state so that shit like that does not happen.
01:22:34.000 Yeah.
01:22:34.000 And it's legal in Arizona.
01:22:38.000 It's legal now where this guy's in jail.
01:22:40.000 So it's so insane.
01:22:41.000 Yeah.
01:22:42.000 It's so insane.
01:22:43.000 And, you know, I mean, you could go on and on about it, but, like, how many people have their lives ruined for no fucking reason?
01:22:52.000 No logical reason.
01:22:54.000 It doesn't make any sense at all.
01:22:55.000 Well, you know, when you think about that half of the politicians out there and legislators and, you know, some even...
01:23:06.000 In the entertainment industry, they're invested in private prisons.
01:23:11.000 They want to keep them prisons full.
01:23:13.000 Yeah, there's a little bit of that.
01:23:15.000 So there's that part, too.
01:23:18.000 So, you know, a lot of things, a lot of laws to a lot of folks in different places are unfair, especially as it relates to cannabis.
01:23:26.000 Well, what's really wild is there's this massive history of human usage, right?
01:23:32.000 It goes back thousands and thousands of years.
01:23:34.000 And then, in the 1930s, They decide to do this propaganda campaign against weed and they do Reefer Madness.
01:23:44.000 Reefer Madness, yeah.
01:23:44.000 And all these fucking movies that show people smoking pot and going crazy and losing their fucking minds and just lets you know, this is going to take hold of your children!
01:23:53.000 So they turn this thing that everybody had always used into this new drug.
01:23:58.000 Yeah.
01:23:58.000 And they called it marijuana.
01:23:59.000 And you know, as well as I know, that's the name for a wild Mexican tobacco.
01:24:04.000 Yeah.
01:24:04.000 They came up with a name and attached it to cannabis, which people had always used.
01:24:09.000 And they turned it into this scary thing.
01:24:11.000 Yeah.
01:24:11.000 And then they told farmers, like, you could still grow it for hemp.
01:24:14.000 But all this weed-smoking shit, this is over, kids.
01:24:17.000 We're gonna make this illegal.
01:24:19.000 You're gonna need a tax stamp for that hemp.
01:24:21.000 And these fucking...
01:24:23.000 They figured out a way to get people to believe that this thing that people had taken forever was fucking dangerous and ruining lives.
01:24:30.000 And that propaganda from the 1930s, from those movies, still works today.
01:24:35.000 The momentum of it.
01:24:37.000 It raised our grandparents.
01:24:39.000 Our grandparents raised our parents.
01:24:41.000 It's in us.
01:24:43.000 It's like the dumbest shit.
01:24:45.000 It's true.
01:24:47.000 Fortunately, it stopped at our parents.
01:24:50.000 A lot of people got open after that and actually turned their parents on because when you go into dispensaries now, you see cats our age, right?
01:25:00.000 And obviously younger people, but you see seniors up in there as well.
01:25:05.000 Whether they're in there for edibles or they're going to smoke flower or even concentrates, which trips me out.
01:25:12.000 But...
01:25:14.000 That the old folks get down with that.
01:25:18.000 You see it.
01:25:19.000 And fortunately, that's because there's a lot of information out there now that if you're not sure about that propaganda that you grew up to, you can always now do your own diligence and do your own homework and find other articles based on cannabis that will tell you positive things.
01:25:38.000 And this is things they've never realized or thought of or heard before, and it opens up their world.
01:25:45.000 Now, it's not enough of them, because I think if it was, you know, if it was common knowledge amongst everybody that this is a healing plant, and aside from casual use, it can benefit people, more people would embrace it.
01:26:01.000 And you see that happening, but it's just slow, for some reason, still.
01:26:07.000 Everything's slow, man, because, like we were talking about before, I think people have preconceived notions that they don't want to dismiss, they don't want to let go of.
01:26:14.000 Even when they're confronted with new evidence, they want to, like, still stay, nah, weed is for losers!
01:26:19.000 Weed is for goddamn losers!
01:26:21.000 Or gateway.
01:26:21.000 Yeah.
01:26:22.000 It's a goddamn gateway drug.
01:26:23.000 Yeah.
01:26:24.000 Listen, Mr. Be Real, you might be able to do it, but what if my son starts doing ketamine afterwards and fighting with the cops?
01:26:31.000 Kicking out back windows.
01:26:33.000 Yeah, kicking out back windows barefoot.
01:26:34.000 Like Kenny Loggins.
01:26:37.000 Footloose.
01:26:37.000 I would say one of his friends turned him on to the ketamine.
01:26:42.000 It doesn't have anything to do with weed.
01:26:45.000 It's got nothing to do with weed.
01:26:46.000 But the idea that you couldn't go from alcohol to cocaine is so stupid.
01:26:50.000 Of course you could.
01:26:51.000 Is that a gateway to coke?
01:26:52.000 Because I know a lot of people drink and they do coke.
01:26:56.000 One doesn't create the other stupid.
01:27:00.000 You know what it is?
01:27:00.000 It's a gateway drug.
01:27:04.000 And your own choices are the gateway.
01:27:07.000 Yeah.
01:27:07.000 Not this or that.
01:27:08.000 That's what's important, right?
01:27:10.000 The people you hang with.
01:27:11.000 Yeah.
01:27:12.000 You can hang with some people that will buy some street coke and put you in a coma.
01:27:15.000 That's right.
01:27:15.000 Yeah.
01:27:16.000 I mean, and imagine, like, they're the ones who live.
01:27:20.000 Right.
01:27:21.000 And your friends, you know, you were the party provider and a couple of your friends are now gone.
01:27:29.000 I mean, to deal with that.
01:27:31.000 And it's happening all over the country.
01:27:33.000 Yeah.
01:27:33.000 It's the, you know, what is it?
01:27:37.000 100,000 people now?
01:27:39.000 A year?
01:27:40.000 Somewhere in the neighborhood of 100,000 people die?
01:27:42.000 I mean, you think about how many, like...
01:27:45.000 Opiates?
01:27:46.000 How many folks that, like, are just the average Joes, you know, that are, like, on the everyday, and then you think about the celebrities that have been taken by the shit.
01:27:58.000 So in 2021, it's 70,601 people died from a fentanyl overdose in the U.S. Holy shit.
01:28:06.000 That figure is up 25% from 2020. Did you see that news story last week where they seized a shipment that had enough fentanyl to kill every American?
01:28:18.000 In the United States.
01:28:20.000 That was the story.
01:28:21.000 I did see that.
01:28:22.000 That was crazy.
01:28:24.000 Deaths involving synthetic opioids other than methadone, primarily fentanyl, continued to rise with 56,516 overdose deaths reported in 2020. So it just keeps going up.
01:28:38.000 Yeah, man.
01:28:39.000 So it's nearly double the amount of fentanyl overdoses in 2019 and 2020. That should scare the shit out of cokeheads, but, you know, some of them are not fazed by this.
01:28:53.000 Fucking wild.
01:28:54.000 That's wild.
01:28:57.000 So between, what did it say between 2019 and 2021, it doubled the amount of deaths?
01:29:02.000 Is that what it said?
01:29:03.000 No, up 25%.
01:29:04.000 Oh, 25. What was the one that it said afterwards?
01:29:08.000 It said double the time before that?
01:29:09.000 What was the last quote?
01:29:15.000 Can you put it back up?
01:29:17.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:29:22.000 So that figure is up from 25% of 2020 and nearly double the amount of fentanyl overdose deaths in 2019. That's crazy.
01:29:31.000 Look at the peak.
01:29:32.000 Look at the spike if you look at the graph.
01:29:34.000 That's going up.
01:29:35.000 That's crazy.
01:29:38.000 Wow.
01:29:41.000 Jesus Christ.
01:29:43.000 That's what's so sketchy about illegality.
01:29:45.000 You know, I hate to fucking beat a dead horse.
01:29:48.000 And some of it is not even coke.
01:29:51.000 Some of it is the pills.
01:29:52.000 Like, because now, you know, they're like putting it in the pills and shit like that.
01:29:55.000 Yeah, they're putting in fake stuff.
01:29:57.000 Like, you can get a fake Xanax that has that in it.
01:30:00.000 You can get a, you know, fake Ambien that has that in it.
01:30:03.000 Yeah, man.
01:30:03.000 People whose doctors won't prescribe them stuff anymore.
01:30:05.000 Like, bro, if your doctor is saying no to you...
01:30:08.000 Yeah.
01:30:09.000 Doctors are like happy.
01:30:10.000 What are you, in pain?
01:30:12.000 Yeah.
01:30:12.000 You need something?
01:30:13.000 Here, let me write you this shit up.
01:30:15.000 There you go.
01:30:16.000 I'll hook you up, pal.
01:30:17.000 Hey, I gotta say, man, thank you for coming and doing the smoke box.
01:30:21.000 My pleasure.
01:30:22.000 People loved it.
01:30:23.000 It was fun.
01:30:24.000 I got way too high, though.
01:30:26.000 The thing about Be Real is he takes you, and him and his guys, you get high before you even get in that stupid box.
01:30:33.000 So by the time you get in the smoke box, you're already barbecued.
01:30:39.000 And there's no air in that room.
01:30:41.000 It's all just weed.
01:30:42.000 And I was sitting there going, oh my god, I could barely form sentences.
01:30:47.000 I think we did have the windows up.
01:30:48.000 That's when we did have the windows up.
01:30:50.000 We don't have the windows up anymore.
01:30:51.000 We have this shear that goes down, so a little bit of smoke.
01:30:56.000 But you guys go so hard before the show even started.
01:30:59.000 Look at me.
01:30:59.000 Look how close my eyes are.
01:31:01.000 I can't even see.
01:31:02.000 Did he get...
01:31:02.000 See, that's E-Zone back there.
01:31:04.000 Did he give you a dab before you went in?
01:31:07.000 I don't remember.
01:31:08.000 I remember just being obliterated.
01:31:10.000 Because I remember having to tell him, like, hey, man, don't be giving our guests dabs before they get in the box, man.
01:31:15.000 They're not going to make it through it.
01:31:17.000 I don't think I did.
01:31:18.000 He did it to Doug Benson, bro.
01:31:20.000 Oh, my God.
01:31:21.000 Doug was devastated.
01:31:23.000 I was devastated.
01:31:23.000 I mean, at first I thought it was a bit, right?
01:31:26.000 I thought Doug was giving me the bit, right?
01:31:28.000 But it was high as fuck.
01:31:30.000 When I left, I left hours later, right?
01:31:34.000 I'm rolling down the street.
01:31:35.000 I see Doug reclined in his front seat of his car just low, chilling there.
01:31:41.000 He had to actually take a pause before he left.
01:31:44.000 Of course.
01:31:45.000 Yeah, you better.
01:31:46.000 You don't want to be shaky while you're out there driving your Tesla.
01:31:49.000 Oh, man.
01:31:51.000 Yeah, he was definitely affected.
01:31:55.000 Stay put.
01:31:56.000 Stay put.
01:31:56.000 Let that wear off.
01:31:58.000 Take a walk around the block.
01:32:00.000 Don't get in the fucking car.
01:32:01.000 Take a little walk.
01:32:02.000 Don't get in the car.
01:32:03.000 Don't try to drive.
01:32:05.000 You know, because I smoked out with Doug before, and he took a hit of our, like, eight-footer.
01:32:11.000 We were doing a show with Sublime with Rome somewhere.
01:32:16.000 Can't remember.
01:32:17.000 But this was, like, a tour we did with them.
01:32:19.000 And one show we specific, it was towards the end of the tour, we broke out the bong, and Rome wanted to hit it.
01:32:28.000 And I think, yeah, that's it right there.
01:32:30.000 It was made by Roar.
01:32:32.000 And Rome wanted to hit it because he had seen me hit it with Doug and You know we took we took a hit of that bong and Rome had to like He had he had to leave the party for a while and collect himself.
01:32:46.000 That looks ridiculous That's just too much that bong right there is too much.
01:32:50.000 That's too much I'll be honest with you when Bobo started like hitting it.
01:32:54.000 I stopped hitting it I was like I used that as a no no well Bobo wants to hit it let him do it look at the size of that thing Well, yeah, it's a thick tube all the way down.
01:33:06.000 Is that glass?
01:33:07.000 Yeah.
01:33:08.000 So that's a delicate piece of instrument right there.
01:33:11.000 Yeah, it's almost been crushed a couple times.
01:33:15.000 That one's like a 6'4".
01:33:19.000 A six-foot-four piece of glass, that's really delicate, isn't it?
01:33:23.000 That one right there you could break down.
01:33:25.000 You see in the...
01:33:25.000 Oh, there's segments to it?
01:33:26.000 Yeah, there's segments to it.
01:33:28.000 Roar made it so we could break it down.
01:33:29.000 But this one over here to...
01:33:30.000 What do you put in like a fucking...
01:33:32.000 Yeah, we had a road case for it.
01:33:33.000 Oh, wow.
01:33:34.000 So we would just shuffle it off.
01:33:36.000 But the other one that's where I'm lighting it for Eric Bobo, it's...
01:33:41.000 I think it's further down, just a little bit further down.
01:33:44.000 Where was it?
01:33:46.000 Where he's standing on a box...
01:33:48.000 It's an eight-foot piece.
01:33:50.000 That's one long-ass piece.
01:33:52.000 We didn't have a case for that one.
01:33:54.000 And we still have both of them.
01:33:56.000 Neither of them is broken, fortunately.
01:33:59.000 Fantastic job.
01:34:00.000 When they ask for our Hall of Fame piece, we'll be like, here, put this in there.
01:34:05.000 It made it.
01:34:05.000 Yeah, hey man, those two bongs toured as long as any one person toured with us, man, and they lived.
01:34:13.000 That's incredible.
01:34:14.000 That shows the deep respect you guys have for the bongs.
01:34:17.000 This one here.
01:34:17.000 That one's ridiculous.
01:34:18.000 Yeah, that's an eight-footer made by Zong.
01:34:20.000 How many pieces is that?
01:34:21.000 That's just one piece.
01:34:22.000 That's insane.
01:34:23.000 How do you carry that around?
01:34:25.000 Very carefully.
01:34:26.000 Each town?
01:34:27.000 You have one in storage in each town?
01:34:30.000 We used to have to put it in the bunk area of the bus and tape it to the edges of the floor so that nobody...
01:34:37.000 And that's all glass?
01:34:38.000 That's all glass, yeah.
01:34:39.000 Wow.
01:34:41.000 We took that thing around with us for like 10 years and it never broke, fortunately.
01:34:46.000 It sits in my studio now.
01:34:48.000 How many kids have used plastic bongs and inhaled some fucking weird shit through the plastic?
01:34:55.000 Oh, man.
01:34:56.000 I mean, I think we all started that way.
01:34:58.000 I mean, like, the first bongs that we were hitting that I remember were the acrylic graphic bongs.
01:35:05.000 Yeah.
01:35:05.000 Graphics.
01:35:07.000 You know, another thing I remember is we used to smoke out of pipes, and I was like, why does this always taste like lighter fluid?
01:35:13.000 And I realized I'm inhaling lighter fluid, you fucking idiot, because you always like...
01:35:17.000 And then those were fucking like metal pieces.
01:35:21.000 Yeah.
01:35:22.000 None of us had really...
01:35:24.000 We didn't know.
01:35:25.000 No.
01:35:25.000 We just didn't know.
01:35:26.000 We didn't know.
01:35:27.000 Now we know.
01:35:28.000 Now we know.
01:35:29.000 Yeah, look at this plastic bong.
01:35:30.000 For sure, you're getting some fucking, all that stuff that Shanna Swan talks about, all the phthalates and everything.
01:35:36.000 It's a metal bowl, acrylic plastic bong, whatever.
01:35:42.000 Don't you think that some heat gets to the base of that plastic being the close proximity to the fire?
01:35:48.000 And don't you think that would affect the way the plastic leeches into the water?
01:35:53.000 I'm here for a natural, healthy bong experience.
01:35:55.000 I don't know that that's the best thing you should be worrying about in that scenario.
01:35:59.000 It could, but I think what they used for the downstem was, you know, it's hard to say.
01:36:07.000 It's hard to say.
01:36:08.000 I think they used a glass downstem.
01:36:10.000 Wow.
01:36:10.000 So it sort of had a little bit of separation, but...
01:36:14.000 Yeah, I mean, it got way better when the bong started being made of glass.
01:36:20.000 It was just a better experience.
01:36:22.000 Yeah, you're not supposed to be sucking on plastic all day.
01:36:24.000 Nah.
01:36:25.000 It just seems very dorm room, too.
01:36:28.000 Oh, man, once Jerome Baker came out with his crazy-ass pieces, man, it just blew the whole glass piece world up.
01:36:37.000 We fucked up many a podcast early in the day because we used the volcano.
01:36:42.000 Oh, yeah.
01:36:44.000 We would do these podcasts on...
01:36:46.000 I'd have the volcano right next to us.
01:36:47.000 We would fill that bag up.
01:36:49.000 If you don't know what a volcano is, folks, it's a vaporizer.
01:36:53.000 And you put the weed in over this heating element and it blows smoke.
01:36:58.000 It blows the smoke.
01:37:00.000 It's like a mist, actually, not the smoke.
01:37:02.000 It heats it to a specific temperature that melts the THC crystals but doesn't burn the flour.
01:37:08.000 And so then it all goes into this bag, this mist.
01:37:11.000 It's a giant-ass bag.
01:37:12.000 And you...
01:37:14.000 Yeah, those are the best, man.
01:37:15.000 And you go deep.
01:37:17.000 But sometimes you go too deep.
01:37:19.000 You don't know what the fuck you're talking about while you're talking.
01:37:21.000 While you're talking, you're trying to figure out what you're saying because you're too high.
01:37:25.000 It's a good blast.
01:37:25.000 And the flavor's good.
01:37:27.000 It's very relaxing.
01:37:29.000 It's not harsh at all.
01:37:31.000 Have you tried using the Stunden glass?
01:37:33.000 Have you ever seen that?
01:37:34.000 No, what's that?
01:37:34.000 It's a gravity piece you could use for flower or concentrate.
01:37:39.000 We use it for concentrate.
01:37:43.000 Seth Rogen was the first guy that anybody's seen with it.
01:37:46.000 They sent him a piece and it's this one.
01:37:49.000 He was the first one with it, but we did a collaboration with these guys.
01:37:53.000 Each flip pushes out a hit, right?
01:37:56.000 And you could do hookah with it or you can do flower with it.
01:37:59.000 But again, we use it for concentrates because the taste that comes out of it is crazy.
01:38:07.000 But what we'll do on our show is like the first 30 minutes, we try to have a no curse rule, right?
01:38:14.000 And it's just for sport.
01:38:16.000 So whoever curses got to either do a shot or five flips from the stomach.
01:38:20.000 Five?
01:38:21.000 Oh man, one day I did.
01:38:22.000 Oh no.
01:38:23.000 One day I ramped up and had to do 30 hits because I was just...
01:38:27.000 Oh no.
01:38:27.000 Out of pocket that first 15 minutes.
01:38:31.000 I was like, fuck this shit, that.
01:38:33.000 Bro, out of pocket is one of the greatest statements ever.
01:38:35.000 I love that statement.
01:38:36.000 I love when people say out of pocket.
01:38:38.000 I've never confidently said out of pocket.
01:38:40.000 We could do that for the next Protect Our Parks.
01:38:45.000 Dude, that's what we're doing.
01:38:47.000 Let's go champ.
01:38:48.000 You know who's not gonna do it is Shane.
01:38:50.000 Shane gets scared of the weed.
01:38:52.000 He's a Bud Light man.
01:38:53.000 He likes to get barbecued on Bud Light.
01:38:55.000 So you guys drink Bud Lights, and if any penalty he has, he's gonna hit the weed.
01:38:58.000 And A, it works.
01:39:00.000 I tell you, that day I was so blown out by the end of the show.
01:39:03.000 When I got home, I was like, it hit me later.
01:39:05.000 It didn't hit me while we're sitting there doing the show.
01:39:09.000 It got me when I got home.
01:39:11.000 I was sitting there and I don't go to sleep till like 11, 30, 12 o'clock, something like that.
01:39:16.000 And by 10 o'clock, I was like, struggling.
01:39:20.000 And I knew it was from the 30 hits.
01:39:24.000 It's so crazy.
01:39:26.000 That's so deep.
01:39:27.000 Yeah, we punish each other like this.
01:39:31.000 What is that one on the right?
01:39:32.000 Beverage?
01:39:33.000 So they made an infuser so that you could smoke the drink.
01:39:37.000 Oh my god, don't do it.
01:39:38.000 Don't do it.
01:39:39.000 Don't do it.
01:39:40.000 You know what I fucked up once?
01:39:41.000 This weed shop near my house had those Keurig cups.
01:39:45.000 They're coffee.
01:39:46.000 It was coffee mixed with hash oil.
01:39:48.000 Oh man.
01:39:50.000 Dude, I would drink a cup of coffee and not even notice and almost kind of forget that it had the hash oil in it and then an hour later I'm reading minds.
01:40:00.000 An hour later I'm like seeing intentions in people, I'm feeling tenseness and relaxation.
01:40:06.000 I'm like, whoa!
01:40:07.000 This is so strong.
01:40:09.000 Edibles are so fucking strong.
01:40:11.000 Yeah, they are, man.
01:40:13.000 You gotta, like, be looking at the milligrams on the package per piece.
01:40:18.000 Yeah.
01:40:19.000 Like, for us, we've been doing, like, RSO and full-spectrum hemp oil.
01:40:24.000 Like, for me, I use it for sleep, right?
01:40:26.000 Because I never...
01:40:28.000 For me, I've been an insomniac forever, so, like, it's hard for me to get full REM sleep, right?
01:40:35.000 Do you take something to go to sleep every night?
01:40:37.000 I never did, but my boy put me onto the full spectrum all in it, because I always thought, oh, I smoke weed, what do I need that for?
01:40:43.000 But it's different.
01:40:44.000 It's different.
01:40:45.000 Man, so he told me, because most of the time they come in the syringes, I'm sure you've seen them, Right.
01:40:59.000 Right.
01:41:08.000 Right?
01:41:08.000 And so that one, when you see the syringe, it looks dark, it looks ugly, but it's effective, right?
01:41:14.000 So they tell you, you know, like if you're using it for medical purposes, eventually you want to get to the full syringe.
01:41:22.000 This is like weed steroids.
01:41:24.000 Right?
01:41:25.000 Like when you're using it, like so cancer patients, when they're starting to use this, they tell them to use like, you know, they go with micro dosage, right?
01:41:35.000 So like a kernel, a rice kernel.
01:41:38.000 And you work your way up, your tolerance, you work your way up to eventually being able to take the whole syringe.
01:41:44.000 But that's when you're, you know, using it for a treatment for, like, cancer and other serious things.
01:41:50.000 Like, for us, like, I'm using it for sleep, right?
01:41:55.000 I was doing the kernel, and I said, okay, I could feel it, but I don't really feel it, feel it.
01:42:01.000 So I went up.
01:42:03.000 In dosage, right?
01:42:04.000 And I started going up a little bit, and one day, I really did it to myself, right?
01:42:11.000 I keep them in the fridge to keep them fresh and stuff like that, but they're a little bit hard to get through the syringe because it's oil, so it's a little...
01:42:21.000 You gotta warm it up for it to like go through the syringe quicker.
01:42:24.000 Because I put them in gel caps.
01:42:26.000 But this was before I started putting them in gel caps, right?
01:42:29.000 So I'm like about to hit myself with the dose, right?
01:42:33.000 And I'm pushing a little bit harder than I should.
01:42:35.000 Boom!
01:42:36.000 The whole damn thing goes in.
01:42:38.000 And I was on for the ride!
01:42:42.000 But I tell you, I had the best sleep of my life, and that's when I was like, okay, maybe I'll just take a little bit more.
01:42:47.000 So I start putting like 400 to 500 milligrams in the gel caps, and I'm popping them, and I'm like...
01:42:56.000 Full sleep, but you have to time them out proper.
01:42:59.000 For me, the way they hit me is I could take the RSO at like, let's just say 7 p.m., and I'll start feeling it around 11, 11.30.
01:43:09.000 And then by the time I go to sleep, boom, I'm good.
01:43:13.000 If I take it at 9, I don't feel it.
01:43:17.000 I'll go to sleep.
01:43:18.000 It'll hit me around 3 in the morning and wake me the fuck up and say, I'm here.
01:43:23.000 Like the RSO has arrived.
01:43:25.000 You'll go back to sleep, but when you wake up, You're gonna be high all that morning.
01:43:30.000 Like, I didn't even need to smoke.
01:43:32.000 The morning that that happened, I was like, I didn't even want to touch a joint.
01:43:35.000 I was still so fucking high that I was like, ah!
01:43:40.000 That's one of the problems with these kids today.
01:43:42.000 They're going too hard.
01:43:44.000 And they're gonna come up with a way to make it even more powerful.
01:43:47.000 You know they are.
01:43:47.000 All those psychobotanists are out there.
01:43:49.000 Oh, yeah.
01:43:50.000 Fucking with the flowers.
01:43:51.000 Oh, yeah.
01:43:51.000 I don't know what the real numbers are, because they say there was always really strong weed back in the day.
01:43:56.000 You just had to get really strong weed, but there was a lot of whack weed.
01:43:58.000 But now there's no wack weed.
01:44:00.000 There's very little wack weed.
01:44:01.000 I mean, it's still out there, but you would have to find it.
01:44:04.000 You gotta go looking for it.
01:44:05.000 Yeah, you gotta go looking for it.
01:44:06.000 They started selling a milder weed for some folks.
01:44:09.000 I've seen that, where people say, I just want a light weed.
01:44:12.000 Do you have anything that's light?
01:44:13.000 This is mild THC, which is probably strong.
01:44:17.000 You don't want to sell everybody moonshine.
01:44:18.000 Yeah, because everybody gets...
01:44:20.000 Well, people that ain't used to it, that they don't have the tolerance yet, they catch the anxieties and have a bad experience, and then they don't want it again.
01:44:28.000 And your bud tenders have to know this.
01:44:32.000 Bud tenders?
01:44:33.000 Yeah.
01:44:34.000 At the dispensaries, your bud tenders have to know this to explain this to somebody.
01:44:39.000 Ask them questions.
01:44:40.000 Is this your first time at a dispensary?
01:44:44.000 How are you...
01:44:46.000 Right.
01:44:49.000 Right.
01:44:52.000 Right.
01:45:02.000 You know, for medicinal purposes.
01:45:03.000 You don't want to, like, push them away from that because they're looking at this for an alternative.
01:45:09.000 And if you're just trying to blow them out and get them high and you're not even focused in on what they're there for, I mean, you lost someone, you know what I mean?
01:45:17.000 So it all boils down to education and the willingness to do that.
01:45:24.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:45:26.000 You gotta train some of these, like, a lot of these dispensaries train their bud tenders in this, you know?
01:45:31.000 Yeah, there should be some sort of a certificate that you have to earn to know what the fuck it is.
01:45:36.000 You can't over-prescribe.
01:45:38.000 You gotta understand, like, sober people, too, who've never tried it before, like, oh, the dispensable, it's legal now, why don't I try it?
01:45:45.000 And they go in there, you don't blow their fucking head off in one shot.
01:45:48.000 And most people, like, if the bud tender is not educated in this way or just doesn't give a fuck and it's just a job and you're...
01:45:57.000 You know, you're not even really a smoker yourself.
01:46:00.000 They'll do that to somebody.
01:46:02.000 Oh, no.
01:46:02.000 Because either they don't know or just they don't care.
01:46:05.000 Funsies.
01:46:06.000 Yeah.
01:46:06.000 They don't care.
01:46:07.000 What would you tell someone if they were sane, no mental health problems, never tried any edibles before?
01:46:15.000 Would you say like 10 milligrams?
01:46:16.000 10 milligrams.
01:46:17.000 That's good, right?
01:46:18.000 Yeah, that's perfect.
01:46:19.000 That's like, ooh.
01:46:20.000 Because they're going to feel it, but it's not going to be overwhelming.
01:46:23.000 Right.
01:46:23.000 Why?
01:46:23.000 It's a comforting little hug from marijuana.
01:46:26.000 Like, hey, friend.
01:46:28.000 When you get used to that, bump it up to 20. 20, though, can get slippery.
01:46:33.000 20 can get slippery.
01:46:34.000 That's why you've got to build your tolerance to that.
01:46:36.000 I remember they used to have those breath strips.
01:46:38.000 Remember the breath strips?
01:46:39.000 I took one with Tommy, Tom Segura, and he was almost gonna tell...
01:46:49.000 By the time the plane was taken off, he was already gone.
01:46:51.000 And he was almost gonna tell them to stop the plane.
01:46:53.000 He wanted to get off.
01:46:55.000 He said he was fighting the earth to tell them to stop the plane.
01:46:58.000 I'm like, oh my god, thank god you didn't.
01:47:02.000 Imagine if you go, I gotta get off this plane.
01:47:05.000 Sometimes people are that close to losing it.
01:47:08.000 But by the time we landed, wherever the fuck we were going, I think we were going to New York.
01:47:12.000 Somewhere it was a long flight.
01:47:14.000 By the time we landed, he was okay.
01:47:16.000 But it was, you know, he was like, dude.
01:47:18.000 He looked over at me, he goes, that was touch and go.
01:47:20.000 I almost told him to stop the plane.
01:47:21.000 I go, no!
01:47:22.000 You could go to the uncomfortable levels.
01:47:26.000 This is for sure.
01:47:28.000 I've been there.
01:47:29.000 Meanwhile, I was on a plane once, and I gave something to Jon Jones, and he took two of them.
01:47:35.000 And just smiled.
01:47:36.000 I go, don't take both of them at once.
01:47:37.000 He goes...
01:47:39.000 God damn it, Jon Jones.
01:47:41.000 We were all just on that plane, but Jon was smiling.
01:47:44.000 But I guess when you're the baddest motherfucker on earth, what do you got to worry about?
01:47:46.000 What do you got to worry about?
01:47:47.000 He's having the time of his life.
01:47:49.000 Hey, you think that fight's going to happen with him?
01:47:52.000 Yes, with Cyril Gaon.
01:47:53.000 Man, that's going to be something.
01:47:54.000 That's in March.
01:47:55.000 Yeah, I'm sad that he's not fighting Francis Ngannou, but I'm happy he's fighting Cyril Gaon.
01:47:59.000 I'm happy to see him back, and I'm happy to see that fight.
01:48:02.000 That's a...
01:48:03.000 Legit heavyweight who's a dynamic striker.
01:48:06.000 That Cyril Gan guy is fucking deadly.
01:48:08.000 He's sick with it, man.
01:48:09.000 He's so good as a striker.
01:48:11.000 Yeah.
01:48:11.000 His striking is so beautiful.
01:48:13.000 Have you watched that knockout of Tai Tuivasa?
01:48:15.000 Yeah.
01:48:15.000 Did you see that fight?
01:48:16.000 Yeah.
01:48:16.000 Dude.
01:48:17.000 Ridiculous.
01:48:18.000 Dude, and Tai Tuivasa was throwing hammers, too.
01:48:22.000 I mean, Tai was firing back, too.
01:48:25.000 And for a big guy, he's light on his feet.
01:48:27.000 He can move.
01:48:28.000 His footwork is really good.
01:48:30.000 It's very different.
01:48:31.000 He's very different than any other heavyweight in the UFC. He's really light on his feet, and he attacks a lot with his front leg.
01:48:38.000 He stabs you in the stomach with his front leg.
01:48:40.000 He does it from a weird stance, too.
01:48:42.000 He stands sideways, and then when he throws his front kick, it's almost like a twisting kick.
01:48:47.000 He twists out and stabs you in the stomach.
01:48:49.000 So he's totally sideways, but he can still front kick you.
01:48:52.000 It's almost like a karate type of technique or something, right?
01:48:55.000 In Taekwondo, they had a twisting kick.
01:48:57.000 You would do it like that.
01:48:59.000 Not very many people got real good at it.
01:49:01.000 It wasn't a staple.
01:49:02.000 Yeah, it's an outward...
01:49:03.000 Yeah, it's a weird twist.
01:49:07.000 You can land it.
01:49:08.000 Guys have landed it and knocked people out with it.
01:49:10.000 It's awkward.
01:49:12.000 Because you're throwing a kick.
01:49:13.000 Instead of throwing it up and straight, you're throwing it at a right angle with your right leg.
01:49:17.000 But, um, he hits people in the stomach with that.
01:49:20.000 That's crazy.
01:49:21.000 He does it all the time.
01:49:22.000 And he's the only one I've ever seen do it.
01:49:24.000 So, like, if you were in training camp with him, you'd probably have to adjust to that.
01:49:28.000 Like, oh, shit!
01:49:29.000 Like, when someone has, like, a really good front leg, it can fuck a lot of people up.
01:49:32.000 And as a heavyweight, he's probably got, like, one of the best front legs ever.
01:49:35.000 Yeah.
01:49:36.000 It's going to be an interesting fight because of the way John attacks on that front leg too.
01:49:42.000 Yeah.
01:49:43.000 John's very good at chopping at those legs.
01:49:46.000 Yeah, the unorthodox kicks he lays down every now and then.
01:49:50.000 Also, John's wrestling is out of this world.
01:49:53.000 He took down Daniel Cormier.
01:49:56.000 That's all you need to know.
01:49:57.000 He took down Daniel Cormier.
01:49:59.000 That's a big fucking deal.
01:50:01.000 He's the baddest motherfucker out there.
01:50:04.000 That's what they say, right?
01:50:05.000 I'm just so curious to see him come back because you got to think three years out, building up his frame, becoming a heavyweight, doing it the right way, doing it slowly, getting accustomed to the extra mass.
01:50:17.000 Do you feel like he's doing like what Evander Holyfield did before he became a heavyweight?
01:50:22.000 Because Evander was a cruiserweight before he became a heavyweight.
01:50:25.000 Yeah, I believe Evander worked...
01:50:27.000 Did he work with Mackie Shilstone or was that the guy who worked with Leon Spinks?
01:50:31.000 There was a famous fitness trainer who worked with him.
01:50:35.000 Who bulked him out.
01:50:36.000 Bulked Evander up.
01:50:37.000 And they did it hardcore.
01:50:39.000 And a lot of people were criticizing it.
01:50:41.000 Because in the old school boxing mentality, you weren't supposed to lift weights.
01:50:45.000 Because lifting weights would slow you down.
01:50:47.000 And they thought that wasn't correct.
01:50:50.000 And it was like, now we know it's not correct.
01:50:52.000 But back then, fighters didn't lift weights.
01:50:56.000 Lee Haney trained him, too.
01:50:58.000 That's crazy.
01:50:58.000 Oh, shit.
01:50:59.000 But I don't think it was just Lee Haney.
01:51:03.000 There was this guy that he worked with that was famous.
01:51:05.000 Fred Hatfield overhauled...
01:51:08.000 Yeah.
01:51:10.000 Yeah, that...
01:51:12.000 So it looks like Lee Haney definitely helped him.
01:51:15.000 Lee Haney definitely helped him.
01:51:17.000 And there was this other guy.
01:51:17.000 And then there was another guy that did it with Michael Spinks too.
01:51:19.000 I think that was Mackie Shilstone.
01:51:20.000 Same deal.
01:51:21.000 Michael Spinks was a light heavyweight champion.
01:51:23.000 Went up and beat Larry Holmes.
01:51:25.000 That's right.
01:51:25.000 And that's how they did it.
01:51:27.000 It's crazy how they worked their way up like that.
01:51:29.000 Because Evander, you know, he was in there fighting monsters.
01:51:33.000 So was Mike.
01:51:33.000 When you think about how big those guys were in comparison to the guys they were fighting.
01:51:39.000 Dude, Mike in his prime was like 220. Yeah.
01:51:41.000 Yeah.
01:51:42.000 I mean is with Mike would people forget everybody remembers the knockouts everybody remembers the destruction But people don't remember is the head movement and the foot movement was extraordinary his footwork extraordinary work was crazy It was almost like like almost like a martial artist if you look a hundred percent like the way that his twitch Muscle ability to like move his feet and shift.
01:52:04.000 Mm-hmm.
01:52:05.000 I mean almost like a guy who kicks.
01:52:06.000 Yeah.
01:52:07.000 Yeah.
01:52:07.000 Yeah Imagine if he had gotten in Oh my God.
01:52:11.000 To MMA. He would destroy everybody.
01:52:12.000 Oh my God.
01:52:13.000 He would have destroyed everybody.
01:52:15.000 There's certain guys that are just in their prime.
01:52:18.000 If he had gone to an MMA school with Customato, like the same dude, but an MMA school, like right now, oh my God.
01:52:27.000 Yeah.
01:52:27.000 Oh my God.
01:52:29.000 Greatest ever dude.
01:52:30.000 Good luck stopping the power double from Mike Tyson.
01:52:33.000 Good luck stopping that fucking guillotine.
01:52:35.000 Good luck stopping those leg kicks.
01:52:36.000 You know what's crazy is guys like him are just different, like the way Shaq is different.
01:52:42.000 Like, a lot of them NBA centers, they can't move around like that, dude.
01:52:46.000 Right, for being so big.
01:52:48.000 Yeah, for being so big.
01:52:49.000 I mean, he was into martial arts, he was into breakdancing, and you gotta be agile for that.
01:52:54.000 Oh, yeah.
01:52:55.000 And athletic.
01:52:58.000 Guys like that with that kind of ability, man, it's different.
01:53:02.000 Dude, a lot of break dancers are crazy strong.
01:53:05.000 We had a big influx of break dancers into jiu-jitsu a while back with the Martinez brothers.
01:53:10.000 My friends Richie and Gio, they were these...
01:53:14.000 Crazy break dancers.
01:53:15.000 They can do wild shit with their body, man.
01:53:18.000 Spin around their hands and all that wild shit that those guys do requires incredible strength and body control.
01:53:25.000 And when those guys got into jiu-jitsu, man, they excelled so quickly.
01:53:28.000 Because even though they look like regular people, they've got crazy farmer strength.
01:53:34.000 It's real similar.
01:53:36.000 Yeah, there's this guy from France.
01:53:38.000 His name is B-Boy Jr., right?
01:53:40.000 And this dude, like, amazes people with the type of strength he's got.
01:53:46.000 Like, he's got this move where he could lift his back legs and they're moving, and he's on his fingertips.
01:53:53.000 You know how, like, people do those three-finger push-ups?
01:53:56.000 Yeah.
01:53:56.000 He's lifting his whole damn body up off the ground, and he's...
01:54:00.000 Like it's amazing people like is this dude alien or what but what is his name b-boy jr?
01:54:07.000 Here you go.
01:54:07.000 Look at this guy.
01:54:08.000 Oh my god How?
01:54:11.000 Look at that.
01:54:12.000 So what we're looking at is a guy who goes he goes from lying on his stomach to Pulling his body weight off the fingertips and going into a standing handstand watch that again How much strength is involved in doing that?
01:54:26.000 And then throws his legs all the way back, backwards until they almost touch the ground, then spins around.
01:54:31.000 There's this one clip where he looks like Patrick Beverly.
01:54:36.000 But he does the wildest move.
01:54:38.000 Dude, if this guy got into jiu-jitsu, he would dominate people.
01:54:43.000 Guaranteed.
01:54:43.000 He would dominate.
01:54:44.000 He would get good at it so quick.
01:54:45.000 Yeah, look at this guy.
01:54:46.000 Just to have that kind of physical ability with your body.
01:54:50.000 Look at this.
01:54:51.000 Look at that.
01:54:52.000 Oh my god!
01:54:53.000 He held that.
01:54:55.000 Insane.
01:54:56.000 Insane.
01:54:57.000 Insane, yeah.
01:54:58.000 And, I mean, it's more extreme even than, like, yoga, but, like, a lot of jiu-jitsu guys after Hickson, they got into yoga.
01:55:05.000 Hickson was, like, the first guy that was, like, really into yoga that was also, like, a jiu-jitsu champion.
01:55:10.000 He was doing different things, man.
01:55:11.000 Yeah, man.
01:55:12.000 He was super agile.
01:55:14.000 And he was doing this workout in Santa Monica.
01:55:18.000 And I think there's a video of him on the beach.
01:55:21.000 And he's doing, like, rings and balance bars.
01:55:24.000 And he's doing, like, a standing split on a balance bar.
01:55:27.000 And he's a professional strangulation artist.
01:55:30.000 Oh, my God.
01:55:33.000 One finger.
01:55:33.000 This one.
01:55:34.000 This is the thing.
01:55:35.000 Look at that.
01:55:36.000 That's insane.
01:55:37.000 What?
01:55:38.000 That guy did it too.
01:55:40.000 He's like, it's not that hard.
01:55:42.000 Well, he did it for a second.
01:55:43.000 That dude held it.
01:55:44.000 Yeah, the way he can hold his moves, man, he's just crazy.
01:55:49.000 The agility is insane.
01:55:52.000 But that's a thing that people don't appreciate enough about breaking.
01:55:55.000 They think about breakdances like silly kids out there with their music spinning around on their butts.
01:56:00.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:56:01.000 It's serious.
01:56:02.000 Go to Stance Elements Instagram page and you'll see the greatest ones that are doing it today.
01:56:06.000 I think it's amazing that they're finally making that an Olympic sport.
01:56:12.000 They should.
01:56:13.000 I mean, they should.
01:56:15.000 These guys are incredible.
01:56:17.000 Look, this is the one I'm talking about.
01:56:18.000 This is the one I'm talking about.
01:56:19.000 Incredible.
01:56:20.000 Look at this.
01:56:20.000 What we're looking at is a guy standing on his hands with his feet parallel to the floor behind him.
01:56:28.000 The fact that he can do that, this is insane.
01:56:31.000 It is crazy.
01:56:33.000 I mean, you have to be so physically elite to be able to pull that off.
01:56:38.000 It's a sport.
01:56:39.000 People have connected it to just being...
01:56:41.000 They're athletes.
01:56:42.000 Yeah, they are athletes.
01:56:44.000 They're entertainment athletes.
01:56:46.000 You know what I mean?
01:56:47.000 Let me ask you this.
01:56:48.000 When did that happen?
01:56:50.000 I believe it's slated to go into the Olympics for this next run.
01:56:55.000 When did these guys become this athletic?
01:56:58.000 Because it didn't used to always be like that, right?
01:57:00.000 I think as every art form evolves, I think they just started challenging themselves and trying different things and seeing what cats were doing on the gymnastic floor.
01:57:14.000 Trying to figure out how do I develop these new moves and stuff like that.
01:57:18.000 And just trying to take it to a new level.
01:57:20.000 And I think they discovered within that They could do these power type moves as a part of it because you didn't see a lot of the freezing that you see now where he's pausing and holding that up, you know, it was all about the movement on the floor like the spins to the head the hands and You know up up top when you're doing a 1990 or whatever you see a lot of that in the combinations But now you're seeing more strength Along with those combinations.
01:57:49.000 It's a mixture of the combinations you see of the aerial moves or the floor moves into a power move that he did on his fingers like that.
01:57:59.000 That's the shit they're adding now.
01:58:01.000 Like, where before it was all just combinations.
01:58:03.000 There was no...
01:58:05.000 Power style moves like that that existed and I don't know where it came from man I just I just know that like you see the way that they do this they just they The fact that they they kept it going There was no place to go but evolve and do some different things and what were you just showing us Jamie?
01:58:24.000 He had polio when he was a kid.
01:58:25.000 That same guy?
01:58:26.000 Yeah.
01:58:27.000 What?
01:58:28.000 He's turned his disability into an advantage he says He said he contracted polio when he was three years old.
01:58:33.000 The difference between me and the other kids became evident when I realized that I couldn't run as fast as them, but I've never given in.
01:58:39.000 I focused on sports like table tennis and boxing.
01:58:41.000 And when I played football, I was the goalkeeper.
01:58:46.000 Whenever people would make me feel like I couldn't do something, I worked extra hard to prove them wrong.
01:58:50.000 And then he became this freak street dancer.
01:58:54.000 That's unbelievable.
01:58:55.000 That's that human spirit.
01:58:57.000 That's unbelievable.
01:58:58.000 Because what he can do is insane.
01:59:00.000 It doesn't even make sense.
01:59:02.000 Like, you just go, where?
01:59:03.000 How does someone move their body like that?
01:59:05.000 How the fuck do you go all the way back and then forward?
01:59:09.000 But those guys got into jiu-jitsu, man.
01:59:11.000 Oh, yeah.
01:59:12.000 Wrestling, jiu-jitsu, any of that.
01:59:15.000 Yeah.
01:59:16.000 Their abilities are crazy, and you know, it's great that they're finally getting recognized for that, like by, you know, putting them into the Olympics somewhere, you know?
01:59:27.000 Oh, for sure.
01:59:28.000 I mean, it's so wild to watch, too.
01:59:29.000 It's so easily recognizable how impressive it is.
01:59:32.000 It's not like you have to know anything.
01:59:33.000 Like, you know, you just watch what they're doing physically, and you're like, oh my god.
01:59:37.000 Yeah, there's a lot of great...
01:59:39.000 Great guys doing this right now.
01:59:41.000 There's this dude named B-Boy Pocket from South Korea.
01:59:45.000 Oh, yeah.
01:59:45.000 We've talked about him on the podcast.
01:59:46.000 Oh, man.
01:59:47.000 Insane.
01:59:48.000 He is crazy.
01:59:49.000 I put him on my Instagram page.
01:59:50.000 It doesn't even make sense.
01:59:52.000 His legs look like baseball bats just whipping around when he does his moves.
01:59:56.000 It's crazy.
01:59:57.000 Yeah.
01:59:57.000 Pull up some of that dude stuff.
01:59:59.000 His stuff is it doesn't even make sense like how he's able to move his body.
02:00:04.000 It's like he's defying gravity.
02:00:06.000 Yeah, how do you not put this in the Olympics?
02:00:08.000 Look how he's spinning around without without his feet touching the ground.
02:00:11.000 Yeah, that's insane.
02:00:12.000 He's on his fingertips.
02:00:13.000 It's nuts like the kind of strength involved in something like that is It just spun around his head 30 times He's gonna wear a bald spot on his head for sure, right?
02:00:25.000 100%.
02:00:25.000 He's fucked.
02:00:27.000 Yeah, dude, you're gonna wear your head out.
02:00:28.000 Hey, this guy, he's got so much ferocity in his moves, man.
02:00:33.000 Like, when you see other people do these combos, they're not as fast as his.
02:00:39.000 It's crazy.
02:00:40.000 The way he does it almost seems impossible.
02:00:42.000 I would assume this is animated.
02:00:46.000 I'm like, this is AI. This is an AI person.
02:00:48.000 People can't move like that.
02:00:49.000 It's like when you see a CGI kung fu movie and someone's flying through the air.
02:00:55.000 That's what that looks like.
02:00:56.000 Outside the realm of the possible for humans.
02:00:59.000 It looks like it's effects.
02:01:01.000 That's how good that guy is.
02:01:02.000 It's crazy.
02:01:03.000 It's crazy because that that art form really did sort of emerge from like when was the first break dancers?
02:01:09.000 When was it in the late 80s?
02:01:11.000 I think it was 70...
02:01:12.000 First break dancers?
02:01:13.000 The first break dancers were 77 maybe, 78. Really?
02:01:18.000 Between 78 and 79 maybe.
02:01:20.000 I don't know.
02:01:21.000 I know it's it's late 70s.
02:01:23.000 Okay, so...
02:01:24.000 Into the 80s.
02:01:26.000 It's um...
02:01:27.000 If you look at this movie called Wild Style, it documents that.
02:01:32.000 And there's another one, I think, called Style Wars that documents that.
02:01:36.000 I don't know when those came out, but I know that it's been around from the late 70s, right at the birth of when they used to throw the parties at the park.
02:01:47.000 I think it's the Bronx and the other boroughs, like Queens.
02:01:51.000 There was cats getting down back then.
02:01:53.000 It just wasn't documented.
02:01:55.000 Interesting and so what kind of music were they dancing to back then?
02:01:59.000 I think it was breaks like from what like when they explain it in some of the hip-hop documentaries is that guys like Cool Herc and in Grandmaster Flash and the other DJs that were like the Kings of the boroughs in the DJs they were taking like R&B records that had breaks that were like like To them,
02:02:25.000 that was the best part of the song.
02:02:26.000 All the rest was shit, but this part is dope.
02:02:30.000 So they would go and find these breaks and cut these breaks in the party, and people would dance to these breaks.
02:02:36.000 And then, you know, the B-boy shit was birthed from that.
02:02:41.000 Look at this.
02:02:42.000 This dude is doing this in 1898. He's a headspin.
02:02:45.000 That's crazy.
02:02:46.000 He's gonna do a headspin.
02:02:47.000 Oh, shit.
02:02:48.000 But how do we know that that's the first time anybody did that?
02:02:52.000 How do we know that Court Jester didn't do that?
02:02:54.000 It could have been.
02:02:55.000 It could be anybody.
02:02:56.000 Look at his body control.
02:02:59.000 Oh, my God.
02:03:00.000 This guy's body control is insane.
02:03:02.000 One of them contortionists.
02:03:03.000 But no, just the ability to go back and forth like that.
02:03:06.000 You have to be so strong to be able to do that.
02:03:09.000 So that was 1898?
02:03:10.000 That was 1898. It says 1877. There's a quote of a young man quite alone who was practicing over and over the most inexplicable leap in the air.
02:03:19.000 He swung himself up and then round on his hand for a point when his upper leg described a great circle.
02:03:25.000 Wow.
02:03:27.000 So that was breaking too.
02:03:28.000 Well, it makes sense that people have tried to move that way.
02:03:31.000 But moving that way to music in an organized setting, like these breakdancing events, that's what's really cool about it.
02:03:39.000 That's the emerging thing.
02:03:40.000 And that's what's interesting to me.
02:03:43.000 I like watching people get better at stuff.
02:03:45.000 I like watching the early ones.
02:03:46.000 Even that guy, as impressive as he was, if he saw B-Boy Pocket Cam, he'd be like, what the fuck are you doing?
02:03:53.000 How are you moving like that?
02:03:54.000 Yeah.
02:03:55.000 Even the guy from 1898 could do wild shit that I can't do.
02:03:58.000 He would be blown away.
02:04:01.000 Where can they go?
02:04:03.000 How much better can they get at that?
02:04:05.000 It's one of those things where they just gotta try to innovate new moves.
02:04:10.000 The way Tony Hawk would innovate when he brought out the 900, right?
02:04:16.000 And guys like that, they're constantly pushing To create a different combination, different move that no one's seen or a freeze or a strength move like that guy with the two fingers and he's like stuck like that.
02:04:31.000 I mean, you know, to top that.
02:04:33.000 Some guy could probably hold it for half a second but holding it as long as he did.
02:04:37.000 You know you got to come up with something to top that because like how do you top that?
02:04:41.000 How do you top that?
02:04:42.000 You got to be as strong if not stronger and come up with something completely different which you know they managed to do.
02:04:49.000 Yeah if you just like let them be creative they'll come up with new stuff.
02:04:52.000 Just over time, one guy figures out a move, another guy figures out a better way to do that move, and then they're all innovating and feed off each other.
02:04:59.000 It's amazing art for them.
02:05:00.000 I love watching it.
02:05:02.000 I watch it on Instagram all the time.
02:05:03.000 Yeah, man.
02:05:04.000 It's a combination of athletics and art.
02:05:07.000 It's like gymnastics.
02:05:09.000 It's almost the same thing.
02:05:10.000 I mean, you're running around to a routine and doing the flips and the tumbles and all that stuff, and they work their floor routine to the music.
02:05:21.000 Yeah.
02:05:22.000 And same thing with the figure skating and all that stuff.
02:05:25.000 I mean, breakdancing is just as incredible, if not more.
02:05:29.000 Oh, yeah, just as incredible, easily.
02:05:31.000 Figure skating's pretty nuts.
02:05:33.000 Yeah, it is.
02:05:34.000 I mean, I'm not interested in trying it, but it looks pretty fucking insane.
02:05:38.000 Like, spinning through the air and landing on your skates and sliding around.
02:05:42.000 I mean, that is 100% a sport.
02:05:44.000 Hours of work to get any of that down.
02:05:47.000 So, you know, but you gotta think.
02:05:49.000 Um...
02:05:50.000 The guys that do the B-boy shit, it takes them hours to get all that down and to get those moves down and get those combinations down and having the strength to actually pull it all off.
02:06:04.000 I'm just glad that they're finally getting theirs because it's a great art form that was derived from hip-hop and to see it now, it's like a world sport.
02:06:13.000 It's pretty dope.
02:06:14.000 That's dope.
02:06:14.000 It is dope.
02:06:15.000 Yeah, it's just amazing that we watched it.
02:06:18.000 We watched it emerge.
02:06:19.000 You know, also with hip hop, right?
02:06:21.000 Yeah.
02:06:21.000 You know, I remember when I was a kid when Sugar Hill Gang first came out.
02:06:24.000 I was in middle school and I remember I was in the cafeteria and I was hearing, to the hip hop, hibbit to the hibbit to hip hop.
02:06:30.000 And I was like, what is this?
02:06:33.000 Like, wow, this is crazy.
02:06:35.000 You know, it's dope that the Grammys just recently celebrated the 50 years of hip-hop, because it's now the birthday of hip-hop, I guess, this year, this month, that it's been 50 years.
02:06:51.000 And...
02:06:52.000 Yeah, they left a lot of groups out, but I thought the representation was pretty cool, like that they started with the actual pioneers of this, you know, and seeing Run DMC and Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5 and Rakim and all those guys do their thing and be celebrated.
02:07:10.000 That was kind of cool.
02:07:12.000 Yeah, man.
02:07:13.000 People forget about EPMD. Some of the bangers they had.
02:07:17.000 They had bangers.
02:07:19.000 Public Enemy.
02:07:20.000 Public Enemy looked really good when it came out with Chuck and Flav on that celebration.
02:07:27.000 That was dope.
02:07:28.000 And Busta Rhyme.
02:07:30.000 He fucking killed it.
02:07:32.000 I gotta say.
02:07:34.000 Yeah, it was pretty dope.
02:07:36.000 You know who I love?
02:07:37.000 I bring him up every time I can.
02:07:38.000 Cool G Rap.
02:07:39.000 Cool G Rap.
02:07:40.000 Dude, I loved that guy.
02:07:42.000 He was one of my favorites.
02:07:43.000 When I was a kid in the 90s, when I just moved to New York, that's when I found out about Cool G Rap.
02:07:48.000 I was like, this dude.
02:07:50.000 He had one of the dopest rap styles.
02:07:51.000 I mean, a lot of styles were birthed from his.
02:07:54.000 Yes.
02:07:55.000 And he don't get enough flowers on that, as they say.
02:07:58.000 No.
02:07:59.000 He was amazing.
02:07:59.000 But, yeah.
02:08:00.000 Funny raps, too.
02:08:01.000 Oh, yeah.
02:08:02.000 Cockblocking.
02:08:02.000 Cock blocking is a funny fucking song, man.
02:08:05.000 That's a funny song.
02:08:06.000 He also did something with the Brand New Heavies.
02:08:10.000 Yeah.
02:08:11.000 Did you ever hear that collaboration?
02:08:12.000 Yeah, I believe I did.
02:08:13.000 I don't remember the name of it.
02:08:15.000 The Brand New Heavies did a collaboration with a lot of hip-hop artists, and they did one of them with Cool G Rap.
02:08:21.000 One of the songs was...
02:08:22.000 So it's like you got the Brand New Heavies music, but then Cool G... Heavy Rhyme Experience.
02:08:27.000 That's right.
02:08:28.000 This is fucking badass, dude.
02:08:31.000 Listen to this.
02:08:32.000 Some think that I'm a flake, but I'm no fake nigga, cause I take a bitch, make a man with your burners ass at the stake, with the 44 mag, it's so simple, put it to his temple, fuck how'd I give a nigga permanent dibble?
02:08:43.000 People forgot about Cool G-Rap.
02:08:45.000 They forget.
02:08:45.000 How do you forget about this guy?
02:08:46.000 Give me a little bit more of that.
02:08:48.000 Brand new headsets on the tracks, G-Rap on a wax coat, bummer got motherfuckers doing jumping jacks, you motherfuckers lost it, I'll bake your ass like a cake, and all your flakes get frosted, cause when G-Rap is on the mix, niggas start shitting, He was amazing,
02:09:05.000 man.
02:09:05.000 He was one of the baddest in that time when he came out.
02:09:10.000 Him, Big Daddy Kane, LL, and Rakim.
02:09:13.000 Those guys were the sickest in their style flips, man.
02:09:19.000 Yeah.
02:09:20.000 Coogee Rap, man.
02:09:21.000 One of the baddest.
02:09:22.000 It was a great time.
02:09:23.000 That's a great time for rap.
02:09:25.000 I mean, think about 90s for hip-hop.
02:09:27.000 Think about all the artists that came in.
02:09:30.000 Nas and Wu-Tang and how many great artists came out of the 90s for hip-hop.
02:09:35.000 So many, man.
02:09:36.000 My God!
02:09:37.000 Brand newbies.
02:09:38.000 My God!
02:09:38.000 They had some good shit.
02:09:41.000 Man, there were so many.
02:09:42.000 Tribe Called Quest, CL Smooth and Pete Rock.
02:09:46.000 When did Dead Prez start?
02:09:50.000 I'm not sure of the year.
02:09:51.000 I believe it was in the 90s, though.
02:09:54.000 I'm not sure.
02:09:55.000 But there's so many.
02:09:57.000 Ice-T started in the 80s, right?
02:09:59.000 Because he was a part of the original wave.
02:10:01.000 Yeah, I believe he was in 84, maybe?
02:10:05.000 I think 84. Ice-T, he was at the Grammys?
02:10:10.000 Yeah, he did really well, too.
02:10:14.000 He did Hustler.
02:10:15.000 Nice!
02:10:16.000 And he looks sharp!
02:10:17.000 Look at the man!
02:10:17.000 Look at him!
02:10:18.000 Look at him!
02:10:18.000 Still going!
02:10:20.000 Bro, hilarious that the guy who wrote a song called Cop Killer has been playing a cop on TV longer than any human being has ever done!
02:10:27.000 The irony!
02:10:28.000 The fucking irony!
02:10:30.000 I love that!
02:10:31.000 Remember when he was in Body Count, people forget that Ice-T is also a fan of heavy metal.
02:10:36.000 What kind of metal would you call that?
02:10:39.000 I think it's like punk and metal.
02:10:41.000 I think he listened to both.
02:10:44.000 I think he was listening to metal and punk, but I think as it relates to Body Count, it's more...
02:10:51.000 I don't know.
02:10:51.000 It depends who you ask, because some people would say it's punk and some people think it's more metal.
02:10:56.000 So he has that, but then he also has like 6 in the morning.
02:11:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:11:02.000 6 in the morning was like...
02:11:03.000 That was a classic.
02:11:04.000 Classic!
02:11:05.000 That's still a banger right now.
02:11:06.000 That's a banger!
02:11:07.000 You hear 6 in the morning?
02:11:08.000 Like, that just brings back memories.
02:11:10.000 It was crazy that the song that influenced that was from a rapper named Schooly D based out of Philly and he had a thing called PSK and so that 6 in the morning was a play from PSK which was actually the first gangster song in hip-hop but the first West Coast gangster song was the 6 in the morning See,
02:11:41.000 it's the same style beat.
02:11:43.000 Yeah.
02:11:43.000 And then he says a phrase that's kind of...
02:11:46.000 Yeah, Schooly D was the shit.
02:11:53.000 But this is where it was birthed.
02:11:55.000 And then, you know, for six...
02:11:56.000 What year is this?
02:12:00.000 85. 85. Wow.
02:12:03.000 I was a senior in high school.
02:12:05.000 I was 15. Bro, I'm old now.
02:12:14.000 What the hell does that mean?
02:12:16.000 Oh, yeah.
02:12:18.000 Alright, now give me six in the morning.
02:12:20.000 Find iced tea at six in the morning, please.
02:12:23.000 And then after six...
02:12:44.000 Gangster right there, IST. And then birthed from that, you get Cruisin' Down the Street in My 6'4", which was a play off this.
02:12:55.000 Oh, wow, that's similar.
02:12:57.000 Yeah, that does have a similar beat.
02:13:00.000 Wow.
02:13:02.000 Hey, yo, man, you remember that shit?
02:13:03.000 Easy did a while back, motherfucker said it wasn't gonna work.
02:13:06.000 It rides that line.
02:13:20.000 The difference is, on the West Coast shit, we used more 808, like that.
02:13:26.000 The bass-driven shit, because that was more L.A. Like, in L.A. at that time, you'd see cats riding around with sound systems bumping.
02:13:37.000 And so, when guys like Dr. Dre were making, you know, when they were producing, they were adding that bass in there, that 808, so that people can feel that shit in their system.
02:13:48.000 How many times does a dude come up to you and went insane in the membrane?
02:13:52.000 Oh man.
02:13:54.000 Is it countable?
02:13:56.000 Almost everywhere we go, if I catch eye contact.
02:14:01.000 And sometimes if I don't catch eye contact, they'll wait for me to walk by and then they'll sing it.
02:14:08.000 Or they'll call me Cypress.
02:14:10.000 Yo, Cypress!
02:14:12.000 That's been my name in New York for a long time.
02:14:15.000 Yo, Cypress!
02:14:16.000 Because sometimes they don't know all of our names, but they know what group we're in, so they won't say, hey, be real, or Dr. Green.
02:14:24.000 Yo, Cypress!
02:14:26.000 Let's crack it!
02:14:27.000 That's kind of awesome, though.
02:14:29.000 I got a lot of names.
02:14:34.000 Man, I remember when you guys first came out, I was like, this is a totally new kind of sound.
02:14:38.000 You guys had a totally new kind of sound.
02:14:40.000 I remember I found out about it.
02:14:42.000 I wasn't even into weed back then.
02:14:43.000 I was like, why is this weed symbol everywhere?
02:14:45.000 What are these guys doing?
02:14:46.000 These rappers with weed?
02:14:47.000 What the hell's happening over there?
02:14:49.000 But I remember listening.
02:14:50.000 I'm like, this is it.
02:14:51.000 You guys had a completely different kind of sound.
02:14:55.000 Yeah, you know, the thing was is that Muggs was from New York.
02:14:58.000 He was from Flushing.
02:14:59.000 So a lot of his influence was from New York.
02:15:02.000 You know, his favorite production was like the Bomb Squad, which were producing Public Enemy and all their shit.
02:15:07.000 They had like some of the most complex production at the time with bridges and brakes and these crazy sounds and stuff like that.
02:15:14.000 So, you know, that's what Muggs got down with.
02:15:17.000 Now, when he moved out here and we start hanging out, he's introducing us to New York music, you know, hip-hop music that we heard.
02:15:26.000 We heard some of it via the radio on KDAY, an AM station that was playing a lot of hip-hop in the mix, and some of it mixed with R&B and soul throughout the day.
02:15:38.000 So, This is where we got our first introduction to hip-hop, but Muggs being from New York, whenever he'd go back, he'd come back with new records and he'd introduce us to stuff like that.
02:15:48.000 And so when it came time to working on an album, he had all that influence.
02:15:55.000 And being from New York and absorbing all that culture, it sounded sort of like New York-style production.
02:16:02.000 Mixed with a little bit of LA influence, especially with, you know, what Sen and I were kicking in terms of vocals, because we were using a combination of LA and New York slang, you know, merged as one.
02:16:14.000 So that's why a lot of people were confused, like, where are these guys from?
02:16:18.000 You ask people in New York, they thought we were from East New York, and they were from Cypress Hills, New York.
02:16:24.000 And people that were from LA, they were like, well, wait a minute, they kind of sound West Coast-ish.
02:16:30.000 I think they're from out here.
02:16:31.000 But they didn't really know until we came out and said, you know, yeah, we're from LA. Our boy's from New York, and we're sort of a bridge, you know, between LA and New York with the sound.
02:16:42.000 So...
02:16:42.000 Yeah, it was always a New York-influenced sound because, I mean, that's where it was from.
02:16:48.000 But I think that's what added to us being different because most things that were coming out of Los Angeles in that time or Southern California sounded like gangster rap, sounded like a version of N.W.A. or Compton's Most Wanted or something like that.
02:17:06.000 And we wanted to be different.
02:17:08.000 We didn't want to be in that lane.
02:17:11.000 We felt that was their lane.
02:17:12.000 We need to make our own.
02:17:13.000 So we didn't want to sound like anything else that was in Cali.
02:17:18.000 We didn't get signed by a California label, whether it was Sony or any of it.
02:17:24.000 We got turned down here because we didn't sound like we were from California.
02:17:29.000 Isn't that funny?
02:17:29.000 Yeah.
02:17:30.000 How short-sighted people are.
02:17:32.000 And it turned out that our...
02:17:34.000 We call him Uncle Joe.
02:17:37.000 Joe the Butcher, who was based out of Philly...
02:17:40.000 He had his label with Rough House with Chris Swartz.
02:17:44.000 He had worked with Muggs on an album when Muggs was in a group called 783. He knew Muggs' potential.
02:17:51.000 He liked Muggs.
02:17:53.000 He saw that he was evolving as a producer.
02:17:55.000 He heard about our thing and he wanted to take a chance on us.
02:18:00.000 Where we were getting turned down from every goddamn label in LA. Isn't that funny?
02:18:06.000 They just didn't understand us.
02:18:08.000 You guys are talking about weed?
02:18:10.000 Ha ha ha!
02:18:11.000 How does this make sense?
02:18:13.000 You got any other songs?
02:18:14.000 We're like, no, we're cool.
02:18:16.000 And yeah.
02:18:17.000 I want to get high.
02:18:20.000 So high.
02:18:21.000 They're eating lunch, listening to a song about getting high.
02:18:25.000 They're like, what the fuck is this?
02:18:27.000 Or no, we didn't even have that song yet.
02:18:29.000 We were talking about the Get High song on there was Light Another and something else.
02:18:36.000 But Light Another was the main one.
02:18:38.000 And we're talking about it.
02:18:39.000 That's one of the demos that played.
02:18:42.000 You could see the execs just scratching their head like, what do we do with this?
02:18:48.000 Isn't it funny that everybody wants everything to be cookie cutter?
02:18:51.000 The idea that rap didn't even exist a few decades prior, right?
02:18:55.000 It wasn't even a common thing, and now all of a sudden it's huge, and they can't see that maybe there's another branch of this.
02:19:03.000 It's funny that they wouldn't recognize how good it is.
02:19:07.000 That's what's weird.
02:19:08.000 What it is is they don't want to take a chance on trying to develop it because if it fails, it's on their back.
02:19:13.000 You know what I mean?
02:19:14.000 So they want something that's easy that, like, oh, this sounds like this.
02:19:17.000 We can market it in this lane.
02:19:19.000 This is already a successful template.
02:19:22.000 Let's use this.
02:19:23.000 Oh, they're not using that shit.
02:19:24.000 We can't do nothing with it.
02:19:26.000 So, you know, like, it's the development.
02:19:28.000 And fortunately, you know, when we got assigned to Rough House Columbia, we had the power of Columbia backing us up Because they sort of believed in what we were doing.
02:19:40.000 Well, they, not sort of believed, they believed in what we were doing and got behind it and allowed us to be as creative as we wanted to be and pushed us.
02:19:49.000 And, you know, along with having Joe and Chris on our side creatively, like, pushing our line and saying, hey, these guys are doing great.
02:19:59.000 We don't want to intervene and, you know, change anything they're doing.
02:20:02.000 Just let them fucking go.
02:20:04.000 I mean, that was everything because, you know, most of the time they want an easy layup.
02:20:09.000 So if, let's just say, you know, there's a group over here that's doing well, hey, how come, why don't we make a record like this over here?
02:20:18.000 It's like, well, why don't you go sign that shit over there?
02:20:23.000 We're good to go.
02:20:42.000 They got it now.
02:20:43.000 Y'all got it now, right?
02:20:45.000 You got it now.
02:20:46.000 I can't understand how they didn't get it in the beginning.
02:20:50.000 But I do, because it's like that in comedy, too.
02:20:54.000 Especially during the 90s, they were trying to fit everybody into the sitcom dad role, or the sitcom boyfriend role.
02:21:00.000 You wanted to be on Friends or you wanted to be on something like that.
02:21:03.000 That's all you wanted to do.
02:21:05.000 So that's when everybody was trying to form their comedy for that.
02:21:08.000 One series hits and then the other networks see it and try to develop something similar to it.
02:21:14.000 Yep.
02:21:14.000 That's why there was so many like the ERs and the St. Elsewhere's and all the hospital driven TV shows.
02:21:21.000 Dude, people love a good hospital drama.
02:21:24.000 Yeah.
02:21:24.000 Was the George Clooney one?
02:21:26.000 The Githick ER. That was ER. Yeah.
02:21:28.000 They cannot lose.
02:21:29.000 Can't lose.
02:21:30.000 Can't lose.
02:21:30.000 The drama.
02:21:31.000 She's gonna make it.
02:21:32.000 She's gonna make it!
02:21:34.000 And then you feel good.
02:21:35.000 You go to sleep.
02:21:35.000 It's something that has worked for Hollywood for so long that they dare not change it.
02:21:40.000 I know, right?
02:21:41.000 What works better?
02:21:42.000 Cop shows were pretty good.
02:21:44.000 People love a good solve a crime show.
02:21:46.000 There's so many of those.
02:21:47.000 There's a lot of those!
02:21:48.000 There's no lack of those.
02:21:50.000 No lack of Law and Orders.
02:21:51.000 Yeah.
02:21:52.000 Just fucking Law and Order petty gambling edition.
02:21:55.000 You know, they have so many editions of Law and Order.
02:21:58.000 Special Victims Unit, and how many more do they have?
02:22:02.000 Man, I don't know.
02:22:03.000 How many Law& Orders?
02:22:04.000 I'm thinking of CSIs.
02:22:06.000 They got CSIs in a bunch of different cities.
02:22:07.000 Yeah, I think there's like six or seven franchises of those in the Law& Order close to the same.
02:22:14.000 Bro, they can show hardcore shit on TV now.
02:22:16.000 I watched one of those CSI shows and they were dealing with this autopsy and I was like, Jesus Christ, this is regular TV? It's wild what people's access to things like HBO and Netflix, what it's done to regular TV. They'll show gore and violence now.
02:22:32.000 I couldn't believe it.
02:22:33.000 I was like, I was looking at this like, when I was a kid, if a guy got shot on TV, they didn't even have blood.
02:22:38.000 It was more suggestive, yeah.
02:22:42.000 It was like six million dollar man violence.
02:22:44.000 Yeah.
02:22:45.000 You know, like, people get shot, bang, bang, oh!
02:22:47.000 And the guy would just fall over dead, and you just, you didn't need to see the blood.
02:22:52.000 Bro, that CSI show, they're showing holes in people, and like, whoa!
02:22:56.000 Oh, yeah, they'll show someone's head getting blown out real quick.
02:23:00.000 It's crazy.
02:23:01.000 I guess they have to keep up, you know?
02:23:03.000 Yeah, man.
02:23:04.000 I mean, yeah, you got to.
02:23:06.000 If you're gonna watch hyper-violent movies, the hyper-violent movies that you can get in the movies are on television.
02:23:12.000 They're so crazy.
02:23:13.000 Yeah.
02:23:13.000 Like, you have to keep up with that.
02:23:15.000 If you're gonna keep up with John Wick...
02:23:17.000 Yeah, how do you keep up with John Wick?
02:23:19.000 His body count.
02:23:20.000 On a TV show!
02:23:21.000 This fucking guy's body count is crazy.
02:23:24.000 The movie makes the least amount of sense.
02:23:25.000 He's the nice guy, serial killer assassin who can't be stopped.
02:23:30.000 And everybody roots for him.
02:23:31.000 And he just wants to live in peace.
02:23:32.000 And he's so handsome.
02:23:34.000 He's so handsome.
02:23:35.000 You just want him to win.
02:23:36.000 You want him to find love.
02:23:38.000 Yeah.
02:23:39.000 But they took it away from him.
02:23:40.000 They won't give it to him.
02:23:42.000 Total number of John Wick kills in all three movies.
02:23:44.000 John Wick has now killed a total of 299 people on screen.
02:23:48.000 That's more than the combined total of Jason Voorhees in all the Friday the 13th movies.
02:23:52.000 He is the real serial killer.
02:23:54.000 Bro, he's killed...
02:23:55.000 And that's all the people he killed after he retired from killing people for the Russian mob.
02:24:00.000 Yeah.
02:24:01.000 Where they said he killed three men in a bar with a pencil.
02:24:03.000 Yeah, it's not even counting the other guys.
02:24:05.000 And Michael Myers.
02:24:06.000 And Michael Myers!
02:24:07.000 And all the Halloween movies!
02:24:10.000 Oh my god.
02:24:11.000 That's so ridiculous.
02:24:13.000 I thought it would have been Arnold or, you know, Stallone that got the highest body counts.
02:24:18.000 It's crazy that we're rooting for him.
02:24:20.000 Yeah.
02:24:20.000 You're rooting for him to kill everybody.
02:24:22.000 Yeah.
02:24:22.000 They all deserve it.
02:24:23.000 They all deserve it.
02:24:24.000 All these fucks should get it.
02:24:27.000 They killed his puppy.
02:24:28.000 They killed his puppy and they stole his car.
02:24:30.000 Everyone's gonna die.
02:24:31.000 You can't touch someone's dog or car, man.
02:24:33.000 Don't fucking steal someone's car and don't kill their dog.
02:24:35.000 That's rude.
02:24:36.000 Those are against the rules.
02:24:37.000 That's rude!
02:24:38.000 Yes.
02:24:39.000 I mean, fuck.
02:24:40.000 Imagine being that Russian mobster.
02:24:41.000 That's the wrong dude.
02:24:44.000 Wrong dude.
02:24:44.000 That's why it's such a great movie.
02:24:46.000 It's like the Hulk like you you know, you made him mad now all of a sudden he's unstoppable every yeah, everybody's like oh you fucked with yeah That's everybody want that's what people love.
02:24:54.000 They love this like one person that can't be stopped Yeah, you know in some way whether it's because of the Hulk like he's got some fucking genetic thing They zapped him with rays and change his body.
02:25:05.000 Yeah, he gets angry.
02:25:06.000 He turns into a giant green dude.
02:25:08.000 Oh Yeah.
02:25:08.000 I mean, it's the same thing when they were running Stone Cold Steve Austin on the WWE. His character or his persona was that you could not stop Stone Cold.
02:25:21.000 Can't stop him.
02:25:22.000 And people loved it.
02:25:24.000 Love it.
02:25:25.000 Can't stop him.
02:25:25.000 Yeah, you can't stop Stone Cold.
02:25:27.000 The most ridiculous thing about the Hulk is his pants.
02:25:31.000 He never loses his pants.
02:25:33.000 This dude is gigantic.
02:25:37.000 His pants somehow...
02:25:38.000 He's so much bigger than Bruce Banner.
02:25:41.000 Bruce Banner is like a little unassuming scientist who's built like Ben Shapiro and then all of a sudden he turns into that guy and the pants somehow still fit.
02:25:49.000 How the fuck?
02:25:50.000 How the fuck do you not see that giant green dick?
02:25:53.000 Those pants would pop off just the same way a shirt would.
02:25:56.000 Right.
02:25:56.000 This is ridiculous.
02:25:57.000 Somebody needs to do a new version of the Hulk with a giant green dick like Dr. Manhattan has in the Watchmen.
02:26:05.000 Primal Hulk.
02:26:07.000 Look, it wasn't that long ago where the Watchmen, you were allowed to see Dr. Manhattan's dick.
02:26:13.000 Yeah.
02:26:14.000 In the Watchmen, you saw a full blue dick.
02:26:17.000 Yeah, it was graphic.
02:26:18.000 And he's built like the Hulk.
02:26:19.000 Same thing.
02:26:21.000 You can see his dick, but you can't see the Hulk's dick.
02:26:24.000 What is it, Marvel, right?
02:26:26.000 The idea that his shirt explodes, but his pants stay fine and he can move around on him, no problem.
02:26:30.000 What the fuck are you selling me?
02:26:33.000 I don't think they knew the way around.
02:26:34.000 They didn't know the way around that one.
02:26:37.000 Like, how do we?
02:26:38.000 It is the dumbest fucking thing of all time.
02:26:41.000 I mean, even if he's wearing yoga pants, those fucking shits are gonna fly apart.
02:26:45.000 That shit's gonna rip.
02:26:45.000 It's gonna rip.
02:26:47.000 That's crazy.
02:26:48.000 Look how big he is.
02:26:49.000 He's 500 fucking pounds.
02:26:51.000 Yeah, he's five times the size of the regular motherfucker that he is before he blows up.
02:26:56.000 It's so dumb.
02:26:57.000 It's the dumbest thing.
02:26:58.000 We're so afraid of that giant green dick.
02:27:00.000 He's wearing stretchy pants.
02:27:01.000 People are willing to suspend disbelief.
02:27:03.000 That's fine.
02:27:03.000 That's fine.
02:27:04.000 Pants are fine.
02:27:05.000 That is crazy.
02:27:09.000 People will say ridiculous shit like, well, how could he turn into such a big thing?
02:27:13.000 There's not enough molecules in his body to expand to that extent.
02:27:16.000 Where is he getting the actual physical tools to get bigger?
02:27:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:27:21.000 What about his pants?
02:27:22.000 That's more ridiculous.
02:27:23.000 What about his pants, yeah.
02:27:23.000 The pants are more ridiculous.
02:27:25.000 Do his pants have the same thing he got?
02:27:28.000 It does make sense that something couldn't just get big, though.
02:27:31.000 How could he just get big?
02:27:33.000 This is a debate that's gone on and on.
02:27:35.000 Well, let me give you my point.
02:27:39.000 How could he get big?
02:27:40.000 He's not getting anything into his body.
02:27:42.000 There's no food.
02:27:44.000 How do the cells grow?
02:27:46.000 Are you just drinking water and growing a plant?
02:27:48.000 What are you doing?
02:27:49.000 How are you getting bigger?
02:27:51.000 How do you get bigger?
02:27:52.000 There's a mass.
02:27:53.000 Where's the mass come from?
02:27:54.000 How does it go back to normal?
02:27:57.000 It's so dumb, but the pants are the dumbest.
02:27:59.000 The pants are the dumbest thing.
02:28:01.000 The whole thing.
02:28:01.000 Meanwhile, it's my favorite superhero.
02:28:03.000 Yeah, they just can't get his movie right.
02:28:06.000 His solo movie, they got it with Ruffalo when he's in the ensemble, but they still haven't managed to get the hit with the Hulk by itself.
02:28:20.000 Yeah.
02:28:21.000 They had a couple different tries.
02:28:22.000 They had the Ed Norton try.
02:28:24.000 Yeah.
02:28:24.000 They had before that that other dude, the Australian.
02:28:26.000 Eric Bonner.
02:28:27.000 Eric Bonner.
02:28:28.000 They did it.
02:28:28.000 And then as time went on, they got better with the CGI. Yeah.
02:28:32.000 And they got better at making it look real.
02:28:34.000 Yeah.
02:28:35.000 Better at, you know, but it's still.
02:28:37.000 The problem with the Avengers is, I would just call the Hulk.
02:28:39.000 If I was that dude, Hawkeye, with the bow and arrow, I'd be like, what am I doing out here?
02:28:43.000 Yeah.
02:28:44.000 I just have a bow and arrow.
02:28:45.000 That's all.
02:28:45.000 I'm just kind of mildly acrobatic and have a bow and arrow.
02:28:48.000 Call the Hulk!
02:28:49.000 He got special bow and arrows.
02:28:50.000 Bro, you call the Hulk.
02:28:52.000 You call the Hulk?
02:28:53.000 Call the Hulk.
02:28:53.000 He fucking stops the world.
02:28:55.000 He punches the world and stops it from spinning.
02:28:58.000 I mean, yeah.
02:28:59.000 You call the guy with the arrows or the guy...
02:29:02.000 Yeah, call the guy that punches the spaceship in the face and smashes it to the ground.
02:29:07.000 That guy should just be dominating.
02:29:08.000 The indestructible one.
02:29:09.000 Just go behind him.
02:29:11.000 Just follow behind him.
02:29:12.000 Pick out whatever's wounded.
02:29:14.000 Hahaha!
02:29:15.000 One of my boys got mad when they made him into, like, the Smart Hulk.
02:29:21.000 I got mad.
02:29:22.000 Yeah.
02:29:23.000 A lot of people got mad.
02:29:24.000 They don't want to see the Smart Hulk.
02:29:26.000 Yeah.
02:29:27.000 Next thing you know, he's gonna be wearing a dress.
02:29:29.000 What they're doing is they're experimenting with these time-held characters that we love so dearly.
02:29:34.000 You can't just do that.
02:29:35.000 Yeah.
02:29:36.000 Re-flipping them like that is just too much.
02:29:38.000 It's rude.
02:29:39.000 Make a new character.
02:29:40.000 Don't make a Smart Hulk, you fuckers.
02:29:42.000 Yeah.
02:29:42.000 He's not smart.
02:29:43.000 That's the whole point.
02:29:45.000 Yeah, he's enraged.
02:29:46.000 Yeah.
02:29:47.000 It's the idea that he would be smart and giant at the same time with the green skin and big ass glasses.
02:29:54.000 Shut up.
02:29:55.000 Yeah, like he's got the best of both worlds.
02:29:57.000 No!
02:29:57.000 No, he never did.
02:29:58.000 You can't have that.
02:29:59.000 That's the thing.
02:30:00.000 The Thing was a regular dude.
02:30:02.000 Yeah.
02:30:02.000 But he had the mutation from space that turned him into the Thing, the big Rocky.
02:30:06.000 But he was a powerhouse.
02:30:07.000 Yeah.
02:30:07.000 But he was a regular dude underneath it.
02:30:09.000 Yeah.
02:30:09.000 The Hulk says Hulk smash.
02:30:12.000 He goes from being the smartest guy in the world to a dude with two-word sentences.
02:30:15.000 Yeah.
02:30:16.000 You know?
02:30:17.000 But it's fucking like the scene in the Hulk when he grabs Loki and he smashes him left and right like Loki who says he's a god and the Hulk grabs him and pile drives him into the concrete back and forth and back and forth and goes, puny man.
02:30:32.000 I mean, puny god, is that what he says?
02:30:34.000 Get this out of my face!
02:30:36.000 Stop it, Jamie!
02:30:37.000 This is not funny.
02:30:39.000 He's got a sweater.
02:30:40.000 It's ridiculous.
02:30:41.000 Look at him.
02:30:42.000 He's so handsome.
02:30:43.000 He's got a robe.
02:30:43.000 It's like a guy who's at the coffee shop.
02:30:45.000 Why does he have glasses on?
02:30:47.000 He's a fucking superpower.
02:30:48.000 You don't think his eyes are super-powered, too?
02:30:50.000 Yeah, why would the Hulk have glasses on?
02:30:52.000 Just to let us know that he's smart.
02:30:54.000 Now he's smart.
02:30:56.000 That's such an easy way out.
02:30:58.000 Hulk smart!
02:30:59.000 Yeah, you associate...
02:31:00.000 It wouldn't be better if he actually looked exactly like the original Hulk, and he could talk like a super smart guy, but he could turn it on or off.
02:31:09.000 So he could trick you.
02:31:10.000 So for everybody else, it's like, Hulk smash!
02:31:12.000 And then he gets you alone and he's like, hey dude, actually, I'm Bruce Banner now.
02:31:15.000 Crazy.
02:31:16.000 But I figured out a way to be both at the same time.
02:31:18.000 I don't want to talk to anybody, so I'm gonna Hulk smash!
02:31:21.000 That would have been a good strategy.
02:31:22.000 Find that Loki one where he smashes Loki.
02:31:26.000 It's like my favorite scene in any movie.
02:31:28.000 What he could do is so ridiculous.
02:31:31.000 He could fly by jumping.
02:31:33.000 So obviously you didn't watch that She-Hulk bullshit out there.
02:31:37.000 Was it bad?
02:31:38.000 I heard it was horrible.
02:31:39.000 I didn't see it.
02:31:40.000 I refuse.
02:31:41.000 I can't do it.
02:31:42.000 What's wrong with it?
02:31:44.000 Here it is.
02:31:45.000 This is it.
02:31:47.000 Play it so you can hear what he says.
02:32:03.000 Come on, son.
02:32:05.000 How do you not love that?
02:32:06.000 Yeah, that's...
02:32:07.000 That's the one you want to see.
02:32:09.000 That's the one you want to see.
02:32:10.000 But the pants!
02:32:12.000 Those pants make no sense.
02:32:14.000 In what world...
02:32:15.000 You got special Avenger pants.
02:32:16.000 In what world can your 500-pound friend borrow your pants?
02:32:24.000 That scene would be even more terrifying with a giant green dick flopping around while he's beating that dude to death.
02:32:33.000 Yes it would.
02:32:34.000 It would be disturbing.
02:32:37.000 Terrifying.
02:32:38.000 Terrifying.
02:32:39.000 Oh my god.
02:32:41.000 That's hilarious.
02:32:42.000 Hopefully, you know, they make one that sticks that, you know, his own.
02:32:47.000 It's funny because we don't want new superheroes.
02:32:50.000 Notice that?
02:32:51.000 Like, you don't really get too many new superheroes.
02:32:54.000 Like, we kind of have enough superheroes, we're kind of done.
02:32:57.000 Yeah, not in the DC and Marvel universe, because, I mean, you know, it's been for so long and they developed so many characters to come up with new ones and try to put those over.
02:33:08.000 That's tough.
02:33:09.000 Interesting, though, that they don't do that, right?
02:33:11.000 It's almost like a band that only plays their hits and doesn't play any new songs.
02:33:16.000 Yeah.
02:33:17.000 Because some bands, they'll tour 20 years after their last album and they'll just still have all those hits to choose from and they don't ever write new songs and the audiences love it.
02:33:26.000 Yeah.
02:33:27.000 It's crazy because some audience don't want to hear the new shit.
02:33:30.000 They're like, what happened to this?
02:33:32.000 How come you're playing all this new shit?
02:33:34.000 It's a fine line to try to ride that, you know, and please.
02:33:39.000 Yeah, I had a friend who just went to see an artist and he said he was really disappointed because he didn't play any of his hits.
02:33:46.000 He was just only playing new stuff.
02:33:48.000 And he goes, the new stuff was great, but there's so many classics that they wanted to see him play and he didn't play any of them.
02:33:52.000 You gotta play the hits.
02:33:53.000 You gotta play them as much as you might not want to.
02:33:57.000 I mean, for us, we don't mind.
02:34:00.000 It's what made us who we were and who we are now.
02:34:03.000 You know what I mean?
02:34:04.000 You guys have some bangers, dude.
02:34:07.000 You gotta play them.
02:34:07.000 How I could just kill a man?
02:34:08.000 We'll find a way to mix new songs in there.
02:34:11.000 We just won't play so many of them until they start requesting them.
02:34:16.000 Hey, why don't you play this in the set?
02:34:19.000 You gotta let it organically find its place?
02:34:21.000 Yeah, you gotta let it find its place and let people say to you, like, hey man, how come you don't add this?
02:34:27.000 You guys always play this over here, but you never...
02:34:30.000 And then we might take that into consideration and be like, you know what, yeah, we should play that.
02:34:34.000 But...
02:34:35.000 Yeah, I've learned from watching others, like, when you don't play the popular songs in your, you know, the pantheon of your library, your musical library as an artist, man, they're gonna shit on you heavy.
02:34:51.000 Like, yo, man, how come you didn't play insane in the brain or whatever.
02:34:55.000 Like, you could not not play.
02:34:57.000 Yeah, you have to play that.
02:34:58.000 Because they feel punished.
02:35:00.000 Yeah.
02:35:00.000 Like, I paid all this money to come see you and you didn't play that song.
02:35:03.000 It's like if you went to see Leonard Skinner and they didn't play Freebird.
02:35:05.000 Oh my God.
02:35:06.000 You'd be like, what the fuck?
02:35:07.000 You're losing your shit.
02:35:07.000 What the fuck was that show?
02:35:09.000 I went to a Steve Miller gig one time.
02:35:13.000 Because I was a Steve Miller fan.
02:35:15.000 I love Steve Miller.
02:35:16.000 I still am.
02:35:17.000 He's the most famous rock star that no one can recognize.
02:35:19.000 But I would not go see him.
02:35:20.000 For a minute, he looked like Russell Crowe when Russell Crowe played that whistleblower.
02:35:26.000 Oh, right.
02:35:28.000 Look at that movie.
02:35:29.000 And the Insider?
02:35:30.000 Yeah.
02:35:31.000 Wow!
02:35:32.000 There goes Russell Crowe on guitar.
02:35:33.000 Dude!
02:35:34.000 Dude!
02:35:34.000 Dude!
02:35:36.000 Dude, that's exactly him.
02:35:38.000 That's crazy.
02:35:39.000 Look at that.
02:35:39.000 I would swear that's Russell Crowe playing Steve Miller in a movie.
02:35:43.000 So I was at this Russell Crowe concert listening to Steve Miller.
02:35:46.000 No.
02:35:47.000 So I was at the Steve Miller concert at the Greek, I believe it was.
02:35:52.000 That's crazy.
02:35:53.000 Look, tell me that doesn't look like fucking Russell Crowe.
02:35:57.000 So he's playing, and an hour goes by.
02:36:02.000 I haven't heard one fucking hit.
02:36:05.000 And it's like he had played a bunch of new shit in covers.
02:36:09.000 And then, you know, the hour and a half goes by, and finally he plays Fly Like an Eagle, right?
02:36:16.000 And I was like, okay, yeah, now we're starting to get somewhere, right?
02:36:22.000 And he's playing it.
02:36:24.000 And he has this keyboard player that looks like Billy Blanks.
02:36:27.000 You remember Billy Blanks.
02:36:28.000 Tybo Billy Blanks.
02:36:30.000 He's playing the keyboard.
02:36:33.000 And then all of a sudden he breaks off the keyboard.
02:36:36.000 And he's rapping Fly Like an Eagle.
02:36:40.000 I want to fly like a eagle.
02:36:42.000 I'm like, oh no.
02:36:44.000 What have you done?
02:36:45.000 What have you done to Superman?
02:36:46.000 I was like, nah, man.
02:36:47.000 What have you done to the Hulk?
02:36:48.000 You put glasses on the Hulk.
02:36:50.000 It was the glasses on the Hulk moment for me, right?
02:36:54.000 If he had brought out EPMD to rap over that.
02:36:58.000 Because they used that EPMD. I mean, they used that Steve Miller sample.
02:37:06.000 EPMD did something to that.
02:37:08.000 It would have made sense if they brought EPMD out.
02:37:11.000 That would have been acceptable.
02:37:12.000 But not your Taibo keyboard player.
02:37:18.000 That was not it.
02:37:19.000 Did he play Take the Money and Run?
02:37:23.000 He must have played that.
02:37:24.000 This is a story about Billy Joe and Bobby Sue.
02:37:27.000 I know all his songs.
02:37:29.000 He probably didn't play it till the second hour after I left.
02:37:33.000 Because after he played Fly Like an Eagle, he played another fucking cover.
02:37:37.000 And I was like, oh, hell no.
02:37:39.000 I'm sorry, Steve Miller.
02:37:40.000 I'm out of here.
02:37:42.000 Because he waited till the second half to play any of the good shit.
02:37:48.000 Oh, okay.
02:37:48.000 Yeah.
02:37:49.000 And he just, he held it too long.
02:37:51.000 You think they maybe contractually obligated him to play two hours?
02:37:54.000 So that's how he likes to do it?
02:37:55.000 You know, most headline gigs are like an hour and a half.
02:37:59.000 You could choose to play the two hours, but if you're playing the two hours, usually you don't have an opener.
02:38:04.000 So you're starting early and then you may have an intermission.
02:38:07.000 I've never played that type of gig.
02:38:10.000 In spite of our catalog, you know, because it's long.
02:38:14.000 But realistically, man, I mean, you know, you got people waiting on your hits on a two-hour show.
02:38:21.000 Sprinkle them through the show.
02:38:23.000 Don't wait till the last half hour to hit them with...
02:38:28.000 With all your fly shit.
02:38:30.000 I mean, a lot of us were leaving.
02:38:32.000 We're like, fuck, we waited an hour and a half to hear this one song, then he went back into a cover.
02:38:37.000 We're like, nah, that ain't it.
02:38:38.000 And we fucking took off, man.
02:38:41.000 I'll enjoy Steve Miller on the radio and whatever I have in my library of his, I'll listen to it there.
02:38:49.000 I cannot invest a two-hour, you know, like...
02:38:55.000 A two-hour fucking ordeal of the first-hour covers in new songs.
02:39:02.000 I was just not feeling it.
02:39:04.000 I was like, nah, I can't do that.
02:39:06.000 You went there for a certain vibe.
02:39:08.000 Yeah, I went there for a certain vibe.
02:39:09.000 His music vibe.
02:39:10.000 And learning that, as an artist, seeing how he did that, and how a lot of us were like, yo, this is fucking ridiculous.
02:39:20.000 I never wanted any of our fans to feel something like that leaving a Cypress Hill show.
02:39:26.000 So like we, you know, we definitely will play some new shit, but we'll strategically place it to where it's not bothersome to the fans.
02:39:35.000 Like, oh man, I wanted to hear the hits.
02:39:37.000 I don't want to hear this shit over here.
02:39:39.000 So like we're hitting them with hits from the start, sprinkle some new shit, some more of the old shit and Here and there, just so that, like, artistically, yeah, you want them to have the new material, but, like, they're there to really realistically hear the shit that they fell in love with you for,
02:39:57.000 you know what I mean?
02:39:57.000 And you cannot take that away from them.
02:40:00.000 Yeah, I hear you.
02:40:01.000 That's beautiful.
02:40:02.000 That's beautiful that you think that way.
02:40:03.000 And sometimes it's good to go see someone live because you get a sense of what you like and what you don't like.
02:40:07.000 You can get inspired or you can get inspired to not do that.
02:40:10.000 Yeah.
02:40:11.000 Speaking of superheroes, right, and the lack of development of new ones, right?
02:40:19.000 Have you watched The Boys?
02:40:21.000 No.
02:40:21.000 Oh, man.
02:40:22.000 I heard it's really good, though.
02:40:24.000 Oh, it's fucking good, man.
02:40:26.000 Both seasons.
02:40:26.000 I think they're going on three or four now.
02:40:29.000 That is real fucked up.
02:40:31.000 There's too many shows.
02:40:32.000 It's so fucked up because it's like superheroes that are flawed.
02:40:36.000 Like you see DC superheroes and Marvel superheroes and they're kind of edgy in moments, but it's unrealistic.
02:40:46.000 They show you that...
02:40:48.000 There's not a flaw in not one of them.
02:40:51.000 But in this one, oh my god.
02:40:55.000 Like the Watchmen.
02:40:56.000 Oh man, it is like, yes.
02:40:57.000 It is aggressive like the Watchmen.
02:41:00.000 It is fucked up in the best way.
02:41:02.000 Really?
02:41:02.000 Yeah, it'll surprise you.
02:41:04.000 It's pretty good.
02:41:04.000 Okay, I'll get on it.
02:41:05.000 Like when someone told me about it, I was like, ah, another fucking show.
02:41:10.000 Okay.
02:41:10.000 But then I watched like the first episode from the first episode.
02:41:13.000 It's like ramp the fuck up.
02:41:15.000 Like the first episode, if it doesn't pull you in, nothing's gonna pull you in.
02:41:20.000 Have you seen Zero Zero Zero on Amazon?
02:41:22.000 I've heard about it.
02:41:23.000 I gotta get on that.
02:41:24.000 Bro!
02:41:25.000 That one's under the radar.
02:41:27.000 Tommy Segura told me about that one.
02:41:29.000 He goes, that is a wild, crazy show.
02:41:31.000 It was too heavy for my wife.
02:41:33.000 It was like too many people getting blasted.
02:41:35.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:41:37.000 Some of this shit is rough.
02:41:38.000 It's rough before you go to bed.
02:41:39.000 Trying to watch some shit before you go to bed.
02:41:40.000 Watch people getting blasted in Nicaragua.
02:41:43.000 Like, yo.
02:41:43.000 Yeah, there's a lot of violent shit on TV these days, man.
02:41:47.000 Yeah, she got bummed out after a while with the fucking Escobar show.
02:41:54.000 Narcos.
02:41:54.000 Yeah, after a while I was like, Jesus Christ.
02:41:57.000 So many people are getting whacked here.
02:41:59.000 If you want to tell a story about the cocaine business, you got to tell it.
02:42:03.000 You got to tell the whole story.
02:42:04.000 You got to include all the whackings because there was a lot of them.
02:42:06.000 There was a lot of them.
02:42:07.000 I wonder if they're ever going to do the Griselda Blanco version of Narcos.
02:42:13.000 They should.
02:42:14.000 Because, I mean, that was a big story.
02:42:16.000 I mean, you can't leave that out.
02:42:18.000 That Billy Corbin documentary, Cocaine Cowboys.
02:42:21.000 Cocaine Cowboys, yeah.
02:42:22.000 One of the all-time great documentaries.
02:42:25.000 Did you see the second part?
02:42:26.000 Yes.
02:42:27.000 That's crazy, too.
02:42:28.000 Yes.
02:42:29.000 Griselda Blanca was a bad lady.
02:42:31.000 Yeah, she was...
02:42:33.000 She ran shit with an iron fist.
02:42:35.000 That was the one that Jennifer Lopez played.
02:42:37.000 Sorry.
02:42:37.000 I hate to discriminate.
02:42:39.000 You know who else did it?
02:42:40.000 Oh, it's a new one.
02:42:42.000 Oh, even hotter.
02:42:43.000 They said Jennifer Lopez.
02:42:45.000 That worked.
02:42:46.000 Let's go with even hotter.
02:42:47.000 You know who played her, too?
02:42:49.000 I can't remember for what network they did it, but it was...
02:42:52.000 Why does her name escape me right now?
02:42:59.000 She did...
02:43:00.000 Catherine Zeta.
02:43:02.000 Catherine Zeta-Jones, that's right.
02:43:03.000 Here's the problem.
02:43:04.000 No disrespect intended to any of these beautiful ladies.
02:43:07.000 But if you were going to have W.C. Fields played by Brad Pitt in his prime, you'd be like, what is going on here?
02:43:13.000 That doesn't work.
02:43:14.000 What is going on here?
02:43:15.000 Why are you pretending that W.C. Fields was this beautiful, handsome man?
02:43:18.000 W.C. Fields was a...
02:43:19.000 Look at the difference between Jennifer Lopez, who's flawless, and Giselle DeBlanco, who looks like Mark Hunt.
02:43:28.000 Look, with Catherine Zeta-Jones, she tried to put a different look in, but for some reason, the acting in that particular one wasn't there, man.
02:43:38.000 Well, I think legitimately they should put prosthetics on her if they wanted to be that way.
02:43:43.000 Yeah.
02:43:44.000 You know, like they did with Tom Cruise?
02:43:45.000 Yeah.
02:43:46.000 What was the movie?
02:43:48.000 Tropic Thunder?
02:43:48.000 Tropic Thunder.
02:43:49.000 That was amazing.
02:43:49.000 Amazing!
02:43:50.000 When he had the fat hands and he was dancing.
02:43:52.000 Oh, man, that shit was incredible.
02:43:53.000 I mean, they can do that with Tom Cruise.
02:43:54.000 They can do that with her.
02:43:55.000 Yeah.
02:43:56.000 They can turn her, make her look like Giselle DeBlanco.
02:43:58.000 Yeah.
02:43:59.000 Blanca that was what she looked like.
02:44:01.000 Yeah, you know like and that was part of the story part of the story was this lady was just like Dominating shit.
02:44:06.000 Yeah look at Tom Cruise.
02:44:08.000 Oh, man But this that was part of the story was that this lady couldn't be crossed But that she was seduced by this guy who was remember what she she had this boyfriend the boyfriend was Banging other chicks and she found out and things got ugly.
02:44:22.000 Yeah.
02:44:23.000 Yeah, and she went to jail and she was riding him in jail and and You know, that was a big part of the story, man.
02:44:31.000 Yeah, the dude from Oakland.
02:44:32.000 Yeah.
02:44:32.000 The kid from Oakland.
02:44:33.000 A big part of her story was that she wasn't attractive.
02:44:37.000 And there was a big part of what she looked like was a big part of the whole thing.
02:44:40.000 And she was a scary lady.
02:44:42.000 Yeah.
02:44:42.000 She wasn't this bombshell hot 10 Sofia Vergara.
02:44:45.000 Yeah, that's the Hollywood casting right there.
02:44:48.000 But you can't do that.
02:44:49.000 You can't.
02:44:50.000 No, no.
02:44:51.000 That's her.
02:44:51.000 That's her with her boyfriend.
02:44:52.000 If you're going to tell it, you've got to tell it right.
02:44:53.000 Yeah, you've got to tell it right.
02:44:54.000 You're supposed to tell the real story.
02:44:56.000 If you don't want to hire someone who looks like her, hire someone and put them in a suit that makes them look like her.
02:45:02.000 You should.
02:45:03.000 Otherwise, you're just lying.
02:45:06.000 If people could just Google and see the real lady, why are you doing that?
02:45:11.000 Trying to polish it up.
02:45:13.000 It's kind of because they don't even like when Robert De Niro.
02:45:18.000 She's hot when she's younger though.
02:45:19.000 Yeah when she was younger.
02:45:21.000 I believe so.
02:45:22.000 Yeah.
02:45:22.000 Oh my god.
02:45:24.000 Oh my god.
02:45:25.000 She was hot as fuck.
02:45:26.000 The drug game takes a toll.
02:45:28.000 That's crazy.
02:45:29.000 I mean it doesn't even look the same human being.
02:45:32.000 It doesn't look like she could turn into looking like that.
02:45:35.000 You know I'm saying like though the bone structure.
02:45:38.000 Dude, she was gorgeous.
02:45:41.000 That's crazy.
02:45:43.000 Yeah, but it just might be shitty photography.
02:45:45.000 Dude, she was gorgeous.
02:45:46.000 That's nuts.
02:45:47.000 Yeah, maybe they're having them portray her as she was when she was young.
02:45:54.000 Then start adding the fat suit.
02:45:55.000 Yeah, you gotta add that later.
02:45:57.000 Yeah, put that later, which makes it even more compelling.
02:45:59.000 Which was the problem with the Catherine Zeta-Jones ones.
02:46:02.000 They didn't do that.
02:46:04.000 They made her look weathered, but they didn't like...
02:46:08.000 Yeah, but Catherine Zeta-Jones weather is still hot as fuck, dude.
02:46:12.000 It's still Catherine Zeta-Jones.
02:46:14.000 Yeah.
02:46:15.000 Wow.
02:46:16.000 Cocaine godmother on Prime Video.
02:46:18.000 Yeah.
02:46:19.000 But the real lady herself was like, wow, what a great story.
02:46:22.000 Yeah, she was no joke.
02:46:23.000 And when you, like, in the interview, the hitmen, and the hitmen were telling them what Griselda was telling them to do, it was like, yikes.
02:46:29.000 Yeah, man.
02:46:30.000 You didn't want to be on the bad side.
02:46:32.000 Ooh, yikes!
02:46:33.000 Didn't want to be on the bad side or owe money.
02:46:36.000 Yeah.
02:46:36.000 Don't do that.
02:46:37.000 And again, all that comes from illegality.
02:46:40.000 Yeah.
02:46:40.000 All that comes from it being illegal and only criminals selling it.
02:46:44.000 Yeah.
02:46:44.000 And that's what, I mean, that fucking made Miami, bro.
02:46:47.000 Sure.
02:46:48.000 Yeah.
02:46:49.000 When you think about it, like so many new businesses popped up in that time because, you know, people had money to spend.
02:46:56.000 How many banks?
02:46:57.000 Yeah.
02:46:58.000 I mean, how much money were they moving around?
02:47:01.000 How many banks got in on that Coke money?
02:47:03.000 And how many banks were like, nope, we don't want your dirty money.
02:47:06.000 We want only established cash from established businesses.
02:47:08.000 Like, how many banks didn't know that they were handling cocaine money in Miami in the 80s?
02:47:14.000 Probably the majority of them.
02:47:15.000 Didn't know it?
02:47:16.000 Yeah.
02:47:17.000 You think so?
02:47:18.000 At first, they probably didn't know, and then they realized that they did nothing to change it.
02:47:24.000 I think it's probably the obligation for the corporation to continue this business while profitable and shaky and possibly illegal.
02:47:32.000 Yeah.
02:47:33.000 Is it illegal for them, though?
02:47:34.000 Do they have to investigate where the money comes from to put it in the bank?
02:47:38.000 I think they just have to report that it entered the bank.
02:47:41.000 I don't know if they have to see where it came from.
02:47:43.000 I think that's the IRS's job to do that.
02:47:45.000 Bro, but dudes were burying trash bags filled with $100 bills.
02:47:49.000 Just put them in their yard somewhere.
02:47:51.000 And that was the dumbest shit because they weren't even stashing the money properly.
02:47:55.000 A lot of that money went rotten.
02:47:57.000 All that all of it that mean if you're high on coke and you're digging holes in your backyard, you're not gonna remember where those holes are.
02:48:03.000 You better be planting little flags, little pinpoints.
02:48:06.000 They had no GPS back then.
02:48:08.000 You couldn't drop a pin.
02:48:09.000 Oh man.
02:48:10.000 Yeah, good luck finding that.
02:48:12.000 Like one of these guys that are the bosses, they're all coked up and enraged.
02:48:17.000 They don't remember where they put it.
02:48:18.000 They told you the wrong spot.
02:48:20.000 How many people are gonna go on treasure hunts in people's backyards if they find out that they were a coke dealer in Miami?
02:48:27.000 It's almost worth it.
02:48:28.000 If you buy a dude, he's a coke guy, goes to jail in the 1980s and he builds his fucking mansion, the mansion's still there, you would buy it and go, okay, has anybody ever done any renovations in the backyard?
02:48:39.000 Has anybody ever dug shit up here?
02:48:41.000 Have you ever done any irrigation back here?
02:48:42.000 Okay, thank you.
02:48:42.000 Yeah, we'll take this.
02:48:43.000 We'll take this.
02:48:44.000 It might be a fucking billion dollars in $100 bills.
02:48:47.000 Exactly.
02:48:47.000 And you better be there when they fucking peel that shit up, because those construction companies are going to be like, ah, we didn't find anything, sir.
02:48:55.000 You gotta be there every day.
02:48:56.000 You gotta be there every day, like a hawk.
02:48:58.000 Yeah.
02:48:59.000 Especially when you know where you got it from.
02:49:01.000 Yeah.
02:49:01.000 Just probably like pirate treasure still places that people haven't found.
02:49:06.000 Absolutely.
02:49:07.000 Like what is that one island?
02:49:09.000 There's some island where these pirates went there and they built this elaborate trap.
02:49:15.000 Like there's supposed to be some sort of, you know what I'm talking about?
02:49:19.000 Yeah.
02:49:21.000 People have tried to dig this up many, many times.
02:49:22.000 Yeah.
02:49:24.000 I think there was even a documentary or a television show about it.
02:49:28.000 I've listened to a book about it.
02:49:30.000 It honestly sounds like it might be nothing because so many people have tried to do this for so long.
02:49:34.000 But there is a structure, right?
02:49:36.000 There's some kind of a thing that was built.
02:49:38.000 But it keeps getting filled in with water or something.
02:49:40.000 Yeah.
02:49:40.000 Trying to get down to it.
02:49:42.000 So they figured out a way to put this stuff down in a way that you could get to it, but it would be very, very difficult.
02:49:50.000 But I think then climate change happened.
02:49:53.000 Yeah.
02:49:54.000 And the shoreline probably changed a little bit.
02:49:57.000 The Curse of Oak Island.
02:49:58.000 The Curse of Oak Island.
02:50:00.000 Yeah, they got a TV show on this.
02:50:02.000 So this is, they're trying to dig it?
02:50:04.000 Yeah.
02:50:05.000 This is season seven of it, so they obviously haven't found it yet.
02:50:07.000 And they still can't find it.
02:50:08.000 So they have these giant excavator crews.
02:50:10.000 How do you get seven seasons out of finding nothing?
02:50:13.000 You know, if Geraldo had that secret, he would have ran that Al Capone shit all the way.
02:50:21.000 It's like, we're still looking for his shit.
02:50:23.000 Like Finding Bigfoot.
02:50:24.000 Those motherfuckers are still looking.
02:50:26.000 They're still looking.
02:50:27.000 How many seasons?
02:50:28.000 I haven't seen this.
02:50:29.000 This is describing exactly what you guys were just saying.
02:50:32.000 The legend of cocaine island.
02:50:33.000 Oh, is it really?
02:50:34.000 This guy went on a path to find like buried two million dollars worth of buried cocaine or something.
02:50:39.000 Oh, wow.
02:50:40.000 Well, yeah, because when you know your neighbor is the fucking cocaine kingpin and he's gone to jail and he ain't getting out.
02:50:46.000 Yeah, but what do you do if you find it?
02:50:48.000 It's still illegal.
02:50:48.000 If you find two million dollars worth of cocaine and you're just a regular guy, now you're a cocaine distributor?
02:50:53.000 People find it in the water, I've heard of.
02:50:55.000 Yeah, I have heard of that.
02:50:56.000 But you usually turn it in, and the government gives you ungats.
02:50:59.000 They give you shit.
02:51:00.000 They fucking dose it out to their friends.
02:51:02.000 They're having a party.
02:51:03.000 All the cops are doing lines off your coke.
02:51:06.000 Yep.
02:51:06.000 You don't get nothing.
02:51:07.000 You don't get nothing.
02:51:08.000 How much coke gets stolen from evidence rooms?
02:51:12.000 If you had to guess.
02:51:13.000 It's not zero, right?
02:51:14.000 It's not zero Coke has ever been stolen from evidence rooms.
02:51:17.000 Coke has definitely been stolen from evidence rooms.
02:51:19.000 I'm not accusing any cops of stealing Coke.
02:51:21.000 It has to happen.
02:51:22.000 It had to have happened in human history.
02:51:24.000 It has to.
02:51:25.000 Like, there's no way that it didn't.
02:51:28.000 Yeah.
02:51:28.000 Because there's cops out there that definitely got drug problems.
02:51:31.000 Well, they say DEA agents.
02:51:33.000 You know, if you're one of them undercover dudes and you've got to show you're legit, so you've got to go and do drugs with these guys.
02:51:39.000 Those are the guys most at risk, yep.
02:51:42.000 Imagine you're a DEA agent and then all of a sudden you're a meth head.
02:51:45.000 And you're like, oh shit, I'm a meth head.
02:51:47.000 I had to prove I was real, so I had to do meth with these guys.
02:51:52.000 And now they're stealing shit from the evidence room.
02:51:54.000 Yeah, now you're sneaking around.
02:51:56.000 That's what happened to this guy.
02:51:57.000 The Cocaine Island guy, he got charged with intent to distribute 70 pounds of gold.
02:52:02.000 So he found it.
02:52:03.000 I don't know if he found it.
02:52:04.000 I'm trying to read through this.
02:52:06.000 Well, they're saying he's got 70 pounds of buried white gold.
02:52:09.000 Look at this, though.
02:52:10.000 Hold on a second.
02:52:10.000 It says he was charged with intent to distribute cocaine after embarking on a treasure hunt to uncover 70 pounds of buried white gold in Puerto Rico.
02:52:19.000 But does that mean he found it, or he was charged because he was trying to find it?
02:52:24.000 Arrested after he attempted to recover and sell the cocaine that had been buried on the island.
02:52:28.000 So did he recover it, though?
02:52:29.000 We'll have to watch the movie and find out, I guess.
02:52:30.000 Oh, the son of a bitch, the cliffhanger.
02:52:33.000 They gave us a cliffhanger, these fucks.
02:52:35.000 How about cocaine bear?
02:52:36.000 Oh, I haven't seen that, but that's a true story.
02:52:38.000 I heard that's a true story.
02:52:40.000 Yeah, bears will eat anything, man.
02:52:42.000 The fact that the bear ate the coke.
02:52:43.000 I wonder what it smelled like to him.
02:52:45.000 I wonder why he ate it.
02:52:46.000 Did the bear die from a heart attack?
02:52:49.000 I think that was the rumor.
02:52:52.000 I mean, it probably overdosed.
02:52:54.000 Yeah, like...
02:52:54.000 I mean, if you're eating coke and you're a bear, bears eat a lot.
02:52:58.000 Like, how much coke is that?
02:53:00.000 Like, what did that taste?
02:53:01.000 I bet the bear's mouth got numb as fuck, bro.
02:53:04.000 And I bet...
02:53:05.000 The whole snout.
02:53:08.000 I bet they enjoy the experience.
02:53:11.000 I bet it feels good.
02:53:13.000 I bet once you start getting high from that coke, you're like, oh, this is great, and then you're a bear, you're a glutton, so you're just diving in there, eating the whole bag.
02:53:21.000 How did the bear die?
02:53:23.000 I'm looking right now.
02:53:23.000 It happened in 1985. 85. See, things that happened in 85, you're like, man, did that really happen?
02:53:30.000 The story is crazy.
02:53:32.000 A plane dumped the cocaine out.
02:53:35.000 Bro, 75 pounds.
02:53:38.000 They found the dead bear.
02:53:40.000 Wow.
02:53:41.000 Yeah, he had two of his.
02:53:41.000 He absorbed only three to four grams.
02:53:44.000 Well, that's a lot.
02:53:47.000 Yeah?
02:53:47.000 Yeah, what do they think killed him?
02:53:49.000 Oh, okay.
02:53:50.000 His stomach was literally packed to the brim with cocaine.
02:53:54.000 Wow!
02:53:54.000 Yeah, he ate more than three to four grams.
02:53:56.000 That seems like more than three to four grams.
02:53:59.000 Only absorbed that much.
02:54:00.000 Oh, he'd only absorbed that.
02:54:01.000 So the rest of it was in his stomach.
02:54:03.000 So he literally ate until his stomach was packed like a big coke rock.
02:54:07.000 Oh, man!
02:54:12.000 Because that shit is probably hard as fuck.
02:54:14.000 He probably packed it in there.
02:54:16.000 His guts, if his stomach was packed to the brim with cocaine, oh my god.
02:54:21.000 That's amazing.
02:54:23.000 Wow.
02:54:24.000 That's amazing.
02:54:25.000 What was it like for that bear?
02:54:26.000 Just lying there while your heart is literally cracking your ribs.
02:54:30.000 Ba-bang, ba-bang, ba-bang, ba-bang.
02:54:32.000 What the fuck have I done?
02:54:34.000 That bear could not understand what the fuck was happening to him at all.
02:54:38.000 You got a literal rock of paste in your stomach.
02:54:42.000 And your heart is going...
02:54:43.000 Yeah, imagine the heartbeat.
02:54:47.000 Fuck.
02:54:49.000 What a fucked up last day for a bear.
02:54:51.000 Yeah.
02:54:52.000 And then there was a movie that was supposed to be funny.
02:54:54.000 I heard it was funny.
02:54:56.000 Did you see it, Jamie?
02:54:57.000 No, I haven't seen it yet.
02:54:59.000 I'll watch it someday.
02:55:00.000 I thought about it.
02:55:01.000 I'm going to wait.
02:55:02.000 It's a great idea.
02:55:03.000 But it is.
02:55:05.000 When I heard it, I was like, nah, that can't be a movie.
02:55:08.000 So this is my question that I forgot earlier.
02:55:10.000 Does PCP make you aggressive?
02:55:13.000 Because ketamine doesn't make you aggressive, right?
02:55:15.000 It calms you down.
02:55:16.000 So why do we always associate PCP with people being wild?
02:55:20.000 I think they have to be like sort of...
02:55:23.000 It's like provocation.
02:55:24.000 I think they're mellow until...
02:55:26.000 Until provoked?
02:55:27.000 Yeah.
02:55:29.000 I don't want to try it, but...
02:55:30.000 Like, I wouldn't want to be approaching anybody on PCP. No!
02:55:34.000 Like, telling them, hey, you need to...
02:55:36.000 Nah.
02:55:37.000 And who knows what designer drug some fucking chemist is going to figure out in the future that takes that to a next level.
02:55:44.000 I mean, imagine if there was no...
02:55:46.000 That's probably why I bet...
02:55:47.000 What does it say?
02:55:48.000 Dr. Edward Domino, who participated in the early testing of PCP, documented that the drug produces an adrenaline release resulting in a fight-or-flight reaction with an increased heartbeat, high blood pressure, and raised body temperature.
02:56:04.000 Interesting.
02:56:06.000 He said that the effects of the drug can vary greatly.
02:56:09.000 It can act as depressant, stimulant, or hallucinogen, depending upon the dosage, type of administration, and circumstances of use.
02:56:17.000 On the street, PCP is available as a powder, tablet, or liquid, or in leaf mixtures, it may be swallowed, injected, snorted, or smoked.
02:56:25.000 Hmm.
02:56:25.000 Key factors that determine whether a PCP user becomes violent are the user's personality, the physical settings, and the external stimulants.
02:56:33.000 Like what you're saying.
02:56:34.000 Like, fucking with them.
02:56:35.000 Something fucks with them.
02:56:36.000 And then they go from 0 to 100. They get triggered, yeah.
02:56:40.000 It takes something to trigger them.
02:56:42.000 Because I think they're totally in their own world until someone comes in.
02:56:47.000 Yeah.
02:56:48.000 And imagine that.
02:56:49.000 You're like in a zone and then the cops come fucking with you.
02:56:52.000 I mean, immediately you're going to be reactive.
02:56:56.000 They cite the case of West Covina police officer Ken Bread, who was killed in 1983 by a PCP user who was unfazed by both mace and baton blows.
02:57:08.000 In a powerful display of force, he uprooted a sapling and its eight-foot stake, which he hurled at the officer.
02:57:17.000 Then he managed to grab a shotgun out of the officer's car and kill him.
02:57:22.000 Holy shit, dude.
02:57:23.000 Damn.
02:57:24.000 He pulled a tree out of the ground and threw it at the guy?
02:57:27.000 That's brute fucking strength.
02:57:29.000 Hulk smash.
02:57:29.000 That's Hulk smash strength right there.
02:57:31.000 Like, are we sure it doesn't make you stronger?
02:57:33.000 Imagine if we had, like, MMA, but you could take PCP. You could take whatever drug you want.
02:57:38.000 Hmm.
02:57:39.000 I wonder if anybody's done weightlifting PRs on it.
02:57:42.000 I wonder.
02:57:43.000 It's a good question.
02:57:44.000 Because dudes do weird shit before they do PRs.
02:57:46.000 They drink.
02:57:47.000 Sometimes guys do shots of whiskey and then they do deadlifts.
02:57:50.000 Just something like give them a whoa!
02:57:52.000 A fucking whoa!
02:57:53.000 Give them that little boost.
02:57:54.000 Yeah, I couldn't believe that when I heard that, that some people like to do that.
02:57:57.000 I don't think like...
02:57:58.000 I never heard that.
02:57:59.000 You never heard that?
02:58:00.000 A shot before they power lift, huh?
02:58:04.000 Could be just crazy people.
02:58:05.000 We should find that out, too.
02:58:06.000 I would imagine, though.
02:58:07.000 You feel looser.
02:58:08.000 Yeah.
02:58:10.000 Like some DJs, before they go DJ clubs, they'll have a shot, and it makes them loose, and they feel like they rock the part.
02:58:17.000 They got the vibe of the party locked in.
02:58:21.000 Yeah.
02:58:22.000 A shot is a nice way to get the party started.
02:58:25.000 Yeah.
02:58:25.000 Gets in there quick.
02:58:26.000 The little jolt.
02:58:27.000 Boom.
02:58:28.000 Warms the belly.
02:58:30.000 Yeah, it sounds like people have definitely tried this.
02:58:33.000 I'm reading a story right now.
02:58:34.000 The one thing that says it's the most popular post off of a bodybuilding message board, the thread on PCP and bodybuilding and powerlifting.
02:58:41.000 Oh, wow.
02:58:42.000 It says a 6'5", 325 powerlifter came in high on PCP, 7% body fat.
02:58:48.000 I'm going on to see that there were 11 people piled on the back of an ambulance to try to keep them restrained.
02:58:53.000 Jesus Christ, dude.
02:58:55.000 Yeah, imagine.
02:58:55.000 They had to knock them down with sedatives.
02:58:58.000 Oh my god.
02:58:59.000 I had to hit him with a dark gun.
02:59:01.000 Oh my god.
02:59:02.000 Powerlifting on PCP. And just fucking roid raging around the building.
02:59:07.000 Oh man.
02:59:07.000 Probably PCP and steroids too if he's that big.
02:59:09.000 Yeah.
02:59:10.000 You gotta imagine.
02:59:10.000 Oh my god.
02:59:12.000 He's on the double dose.
02:59:13.000 He's on the double whammy.
02:59:15.000 That's, you know, like, he really thought that out.
02:59:19.000 Like, okay, I know I'm stronger when I smoke this PCP. I'm gonna go really get my workout on right now.
02:59:26.000 Or maybe that was his first time.
02:59:28.000 Just, sorry, guys.
02:59:29.000 I didn't know.
02:59:30.000 I took a chance.
02:59:31.000 I fucked up.
02:59:31.000 I was on PCP. Lost my mind.
02:59:33.000 I really apologized to everyone.
02:59:36.000 Let's hope.
02:59:37.000 Doing deadlifts.
02:59:38.000 What about shots?
02:59:39.000 People do do that, right?
02:59:40.000 Well, I'm looking up deeper discussions on it.
02:59:43.000 It says there's no evidence that it increases strength, but because it's a disassociative, do you think that maybe you can't feel the pain?
02:59:49.000 Yeah, probably.
02:59:50.000 So you just go through it?
02:59:51.000 Yeah, could be.
02:59:52.000 Yeah, there's a self-preservation part of lifting, right?
02:59:55.000 Like if a lift feels too heavy, you put it down.
02:59:57.000 Maybe if you're on PCP, just fuck it!
03:00:00.000 Yeah.
03:00:01.000 Let's go!
03:00:02.000 I mean, what's, you know...
03:00:04.000 Well, you know, hey, look, there's parts of the mind that we can't tap into in a sober state that give us different abilities, right?
03:00:13.000 Including strength, you know, tapping into something different.
03:00:16.000 We're blocked from it.
03:00:17.000 Yeah, I think so.
03:00:18.000 And I think some of these things like PCP and others sort of maybe could unlock some of that.
03:00:25.000 Well, people definitely move better when they're on adrenaline.
03:00:29.000 Adrenaline makes people very explosive, right?
03:00:31.000 It's supposed to be there to get you to run away from something, right?
03:00:34.000 To get the fuck away or fight or flight.
03:00:36.000 Either you're gonna fight, you get all this burst of energy out of nowhere.
03:00:39.000 It's a wild drug, though, because...
03:00:41.000 Like you ideally would want to be in shape and have very little adrenaline because adrenaline jacks up your heart rate unnecessarily sometimes.
03:00:48.000 And so if you're really juiced up with adrenaline, your heart's at 170 beats per minute.
03:00:51.000 If you start engaging in physical activity when you're already kind of gassing because your heart rate's already jacked, you're going to get tired quick.
03:00:58.000 That happens to a lot of fighters.
03:01:00.000 First time in the UFC? Yeah.
03:01:01.000 First time in the UFC is wild.
03:01:03.000 They gas out in that first round because of that.
03:01:05.000 Sometimes.
03:01:05.000 Sometimes.
03:01:05.000 Not so much anymore.
03:01:07.000 Guys are much better at that now.
03:01:08.000 It very rarely happens now.
03:01:11.000 By the time dudes get to the UFC now, the quality and the level of fighter is very high.
03:01:15.000 Yeah.
03:01:16.000 And you're getting guys that are already very experienced and they know how to do it.
03:01:19.000 They don't just go full blast.
03:01:21.000 Not all of them.
03:01:22.000 It's rare.
03:01:22.000 Occasionally it happens.
03:01:24.000 When you go through those smaller shows, like the LFAs and these other small promotions, and you finally get that call, the moment they close that cage, you realize, oh my god, I'm on fucking pay-per-view.
03:01:36.000 There's Daniel Cormier.
03:01:37.000 There's John Anik.
03:01:37.000 Holy shit.
03:01:38.000 Yeah.
03:01:39.000 Holy shit.
03:01:41.000 You've got to maintain composure and you're calm in there.
03:01:45.000 And sometimes when you're new to it and you're excited and the adrenaline rises, man, it's hard to stay composed.
03:01:52.000 I mean, that happens with young rappers out there, right?
03:01:55.000 First show in front of like 10-20,000 people.
03:01:59.000 They, let's say, rehearsed for weeks, a month, and they got the song down, and their breath control is there, and they sound great, but the minute they get on that stage and they see the enormity of it, It changes.
03:02:14.000 The inexperience makes them forget everything they learned and all of a sudden they're breathing heavy.
03:02:21.000 They're trying to keep up with the song.
03:02:23.000 They don't sound like the tone that's on the actual record and it's all that nervous energy because of the inexperience.
03:02:32.000 I would imagine with an MMA fight, going through that, man, that's got to be the toughest because you trained, you put the work in.
03:02:42.000 And yet you're gassing out.
03:02:44.000 But you see guys overcome that.
03:02:46.000 They have like a bad first experience and they come back and they're like, I get it now.
03:02:49.000 And then you'll see them like emerge and get much better.
03:02:51.000 That does happen a lot.
03:02:52.000 Yeah, you see a lot of that now.
03:02:54.000 Where a guy's getting like, you know, you're thinking, oh man, he's about to get finished and all of a sudden just changes it all around.
03:03:00.000 I love the fact that you took voice lessons.
03:03:03.000 You were like, I'm going to treat this like I'm going to figure out a way to do this the best way.
03:03:07.000 Instead of just doing my thing, I'm going to seek out experts in vocalizations and help me out.
03:03:14.000 So smart.
03:03:15.000 I think if you've got a different sort of voice and you've got to maintain it and not let it get damaged and things like that, you've got to find ways to strengthen it.
03:03:28.000 For me, I knew some of the stuff that was causing damage to my voice.
03:03:34.000 One was I was smoking blunts and I was drinking whiskey before the shows and things like that.
03:03:40.000 And then carbonated shit like sodas and stuff like that.
03:03:43.000 That whole combination had my shit raspy.
03:03:47.000 And then...
03:03:48.000 The excitement, the adrenaline, carrying that over, not necessarily controlling that to be able to sound right.
03:03:58.000 So it was a combination of all that.
03:04:00.000 And then someone referred me to the lady.
03:04:02.000 I think her name was Elizabeth Sabine.
03:04:05.000 She taught a bunch of different singers, but her thing was opera.
03:04:10.000 And to teach you how to breathe so that you don't have to over-project from your vocal cords and all that stuff from the throat.
03:04:18.000 And so getting rid of the whiskey and the blunts and the sodas, that was one thing that definitely helped.
03:04:27.000 But like with the breath control and not over projecting and staying in key and in tone, whatever, she taught me that.
03:04:35.000 And that preserved my shit so that I could sound like what I sound like on the record, even to this day.
03:04:43.000 I didn't really suffer too much damage like a lot of people do where they cannot sound like they do on the record because they've pretty much blasted out their shit.
03:04:54.000 By partying and not taking care of the muscle, not taking care of the tool, any of it, you know what I mean?
03:05:01.000 So, I always respected the fact that I got this gift, so, like, I'm gonna do what I got to to protect it, and that was one thing, man.
03:05:09.000 Like, I was going hoarse every damn, every other show, like, And not sounding the way that I should on records.
03:05:18.000 And when I would hear the playback to that, I'd be like, oh my fucking God, what is this?
03:05:24.000 And then finally I reached out to somebody who knew a coach and they were like, hey, put me on to your vocal coach.
03:05:32.000 I want to try to strengthen what I got going on here.
03:05:36.000 Fortunately, man, I paid attention to her and I didn't blow it off.
03:05:39.000 Like, what the fuck is this?
03:05:41.000 Because you can go in there like that and be like, how are these exercises going to help me?
03:05:47.000 But until you do them and get used to them and it becomes second nature, you don't realize it.
03:05:52.000 And fortunately, I was serious enough to take the advice and do all the practices.
03:05:58.000 And it preserved my voice, man.
03:06:01.000 I was lucky enough to get that when I did.
03:06:04.000 Yeah, it's beautiful that you figured that out.
03:06:06.000 And it's a great message for other guys, too.
03:06:08.000 Like, treat this like it's a profession.
03:06:10.000 Yeah, man.
03:06:11.000 It's a beautiful profession.
03:06:12.000 I mean, folks that could sing, like, let's just say Patti LaBelle, right?
03:06:15.000 I'm not the biggest Patti LaBelle fan, but she's made great music in her time.
03:06:21.000 But in relation to her tool, which is her voice, I mean, she's taking care of it to where she sounds amazing right now to this day in her 70s.
03:06:34.000 And not everybody her age that possesses that talent and has a voice still have a strong voice because they didn't take care of it like she did.
03:06:44.000 You know what I mean?
03:06:45.000 And that goes a long way, man.
03:06:49.000 If you want to have longevity in this game and you want to sound good, man, you take care of the tools.
03:06:53.000 on the flip side i like the way johnny cash sounded in his last days yeah he sounded good i love the hearing the life in his voice i love hearing the living yeah in his voice like that guy lived a hard life he sure did and johnny cash lived a hard life And it was a dope record,
03:07:13.000 for sure.
03:07:14.000 That album was dope.
03:07:15.000 Just hearing that voice at the end of his life, and knowing that he doesn't have much time left, and knowing that he knows he doesn't have much time left, and he's singing that.
03:07:23.000 Can you play some of that?
03:07:24.000 Play Johnny Cash, Hurt.
03:07:27.000 And it's a cover, a Nine Inch Nails cover.
03:07:30.000 There's so many layers to it.
03:07:31.000 So many layers to it.
03:07:33.000 And it's like when you see what he looked like back then, man.
03:07:36.000 I mean, he was an older dude, man.
03:07:39.000 An older dude who was one of the highwaymen, you know?
03:07:42.000 Yeah.
03:07:43.000 I mean, Folsom Prison Blues, one of the original.
03:07:46.000 I hurt myself today To see if I still feel I focus on the pain The only thing that's real The needle tears the hole The old familiar sting Try
03:08:17.000 to kill it all away But I remember everything.
03:08:27.000 What have I become?
03:08:33.000 My sweetest friend.
03:08:39.000 Everyone I know goes away in the end.
03:08:47.000 Damn!
03:08:49.000 Damn that was good.
03:09:09.000 I was a highwayman.
03:09:13.000 Across the Gulf Coast, I did Ride.
03:09:15.000 Yeah.
03:09:16.000 Talk about dying and being reincarnated over and over again.
03:09:19.000 That's an amazing song.
03:09:20.000 Oh, man.
03:09:21.000 Yeah, he lived a life, that's for sure.
03:09:23.000 When he comes on that song, I rode a starship across the Great Divide.
03:09:28.000 Hmm.
03:09:28.000 Dude!
03:09:29.000 And when I reached the other side, God, man, that whole era of, like, those guys, that was a wild group of men.
03:09:37.000 Yeah.
03:09:37.000 And songwriting was different back then, too, man.
03:09:42.000 It was very much more poetic than it is today.
03:09:45.000 That's for sure.
03:09:46.000 There was, like, they would tell stories in their songs.
03:09:49.000 Yeah.
03:09:50.000 There was a lot of it.
03:09:51.000 Look at them, man.
03:09:52.000 Look at that.
03:09:54.000 Damn.
03:09:54.000 Chris Christopherson, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings.
03:09:58.000 God.
03:09:58.000 That was the crew right there.
03:10:00.000 Goddamn, dude.
03:10:02.000 Goddamn.
03:10:04.000 Yeah, amazing.
03:10:06.000 And again, I mean, then they were pretty laid along in life, too, when they did that.
03:10:10.000 Yeah.
03:10:11.000 Those guys were bad motherfuckers to the end.
03:10:13.000 Well, Johnny Cash was Willie still around.
03:10:15.000 Yeah.
03:10:15.000 Chris Christopherson still around?
03:10:17.000 I believe so.
03:10:18.000 He's still around, right?
03:10:19.000 I think so.
03:10:19.000 And Whalem's not.
03:10:21.000 Here's another one, man.
03:10:23.000 Those outlaw guys, man.
03:10:24.000 That era of country music.
03:10:26.000 Again, you've got to realize this is a fairly recent thing in human history.
03:10:31.000 Yeah.
03:10:31.000 You know?
03:10:32.000 The outlaw country star, that's an American thing that happened...
03:10:36.000 Yeah, that's here.
03:10:37.000 ...in the 1900s.
03:10:38.000 That's homegrown.
03:10:39.000 Still around.
03:10:39.000 There's Christopherson and Garth Brooks.
03:10:41.000 Where's the bodies, Garth?
03:10:42.000 Probably says that everywhere.
03:10:44.000 Where's the bodies?
03:10:45.000 Do you know what that is?
03:10:47.000 That's your mom's house thing?
03:10:49.000 Yeah.
03:10:50.000 You know they always pretend that Garth Brooks is a serial killer.
03:10:52.000 Everywhere he goes, people turn up missing.
03:10:54.000 So all the fans, they all go into his comments like, where are the bodies, Garth?
03:10:59.000 Come clean, Garth.
03:11:00.000 I'll still be your friend.
03:11:01.000 Garth needs a teacup for his birthday.
03:11:03.000 Yeah, a teacup.
03:11:04.000 The Hitler teacup.
03:11:05.000 Oh, my God.
03:11:06.000 Oh, man.
03:11:07.000 Be real.
03:11:08.000 It's always good seeing you, my brother.
03:11:09.000 Thank you very much for coming in here.
03:11:10.000 Thanks for having me, man.
03:11:11.000 It's always fun to hang with you.
03:11:12.000 Let's do it more often.
03:11:13.000 Hell yeah.
03:11:14.000 And tell everybody where they can absorb all of your work.
03:11:17.000 They can find me at, I mean, just Google me, Be Real.
03:11:22.000 It's all right there laid out.
03:11:24.000 But, I mean, we do our Dr. Green Thumb show Monday through Friday on YouTube, so you can find us there, and we're constantly, you know, giving up our schedule and the shit we're doing, man.
03:11:34.000 It's very random, but, yeah, right there.
03:11:37.000 All right, right there.
03:11:38.000 Be Real, ladies and gentlemen.
03:11:39.000 Thank you, everybody.
03:11:40.000 Bye.