The Joe Rogan Experience - June 30, 2012


Joe Rogan Experience #234 - Adam Scorgie


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 17 minutes

Words per Minute

205.73091

Word Count

28,288

Sentence Count

2,734

Misogynist Sentences

80


Summary

Joe Rogan and the boys talk about zombie movies, Nazi zombies, and what it means to be gay in a zombie movie. Also, we talk about the new Fleshlight and how it's not as good as we thought it was going to be. Joe Rogan is a comedian, writer, podcaster, and podcaster. He's also a podcaster and writer, comedian, and writer. He also hosts a podcast called The Fleshlight, which is a podcast about sex toys and sex toys for men. We are brought to you by Sucker Punch Entertainment. Our sponsor is Alienware. Alienware is a sex toy company that makes the number 1 sex toy for men, the Fleshlight. This episode is sponsored by Alienware and is not to be confused with the original Alienware product, the Alienware Sucka Pucka. If you like the show, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. and we'll send you a review of the show and a shout out on the next episode. Thank you so much for your support, it really means a lot to us. XOXOXO. Cheers, Joe and the gang. -Joe and the crew. Brian and the guys -The Fleshlight and the team at The Joe Rogans Podcast. Logo by . is a production of Gimlet Media. All rights reserved. All songs written and produced by , edited by ) and by (credited by . and ( ) (featuring . . & ) (c) is a registered song written and performed by (and ) is a copyright of , and produced and produced by Brian and , and by ( ) ( ) is owned by the band, in association with . ( ) and ( ) . is , all credit given to & ( ) & ( ), and .( ) is , including on this podcast is ( ). has a song written by and is a song by in this episode is . ) was produced and is also or . and ) by , from , & joins in the music is by ), // with thanks to .


Transcript

00:00:04.000 Don't forget to turn your volume off, meow.
00:00:06.000 That meow means we're going?
00:00:08.000 Yes.
00:00:09.000 Okay, my volume's totally off.
00:00:11.000 Shh!
00:00:12.000 Everybody settle down.
00:00:14.000 Settle down.
00:00:18.000 There's no way to say the same shit every goddamn time and not get bored with it.
00:00:24.000 I wish I had something new to say about the fleshlight, but I don't.
00:00:28.000 You know what it is.
00:00:30.000 What the fuck is that, Brian?
00:00:31.000 Oh, that's somebody from Sinister Props.
00:00:33.000 Our friend over there sent us another thing today.
00:00:36.000 Wow, that is dope.
00:00:37.000 And that's the same guy that made the Exorcist one?
00:00:40.000 Yep, Exorcist one.
00:00:42.000 This is a zombie Hitler.
00:00:45.000 Well, it's Nazis.
00:00:47.000 He's not allowed to sell it with a mustache for legal reasons, so I have to put something on there.
00:00:53.000 He can't sell dummies with a mustache?
00:00:55.000 I'm just joking.
00:00:56.000 I don't know.
00:00:58.000 It's Hitler without a mustache?
00:01:00.000 He could just be a random Nazi dude.
00:01:02.000 Like some other scary Nazi dude.
00:01:03.000 Yeah.
00:01:04.000 And then he moves.
00:01:04.000 He does this creepy thing when it's hung upright where he just moves down and moves up.
00:01:10.000 It's kind of weird.
00:01:12.000 And his eyes turn on and off.
00:01:15.000 Yeah, that would be the worst.
00:01:16.000 A Nazi zombie.
00:01:18.000 Like, it was a cunt in life.
00:01:20.000 You know, what is it going to be like in death?
00:01:22.000 You know, a Nazi's easier than the cuntiest humans have ever lived, right?
00:01:26.000 Yeah.
00:01:27.000 If someone's being a cunt, what do you say to them?
00:01:28.000 What are you, a fucking Nazi?
00:01:30.000 You say that.
00:01:30.000 Like, that is the thing that you say when someone's just an utter cunt.
00:01:35.000 And that, along with being...
00:01:36.000 The only thing that could be worse is if they were gay.
00:01:40.000 Rapist.
00:01:42.000 Zombies.
00:01:43.000 Right?
00:01:44.000 Not just gay.
00:01:45.000 Just gay rapists.
00:01:46.000 There's nothing wrong with being gay.
00:01:47.000 I mean, it would probably be your best quality if you're a zombie and a Nazi.
00:01:52.000 And gay.
00:01:53.000 You'd be like, well, gay is the only part that's not even a problem.
00:01:57.000 But, if it was a rapist zombie and it was gay, that would be like the worst.
00:02:02.000 If it was a Nazi rapist, like if it fucked you and just said horrible anti-Semitic shit to you.
00:02:09.000 Well, that's why you better obey the first rule of Zombieland.
00:02:13.000 What is the first rule of Zombieland?
00:02:14.000 Cardio.
00:02:15.000 Oh, that's right.
00:02:16.000 That's right.
00:02:16.000 That movie.
00:02:17.000 If you're a fatty, you're going to get hit by one of those guys first.
00:02:20.000 Yeah, that was a smart movie.
00:02:22.000 That was a great movie.
00:02:23.000 That was a fun movie.
00:02:25.000 Somebody told me to see it.
00:02:27.000 I was like, come on, man.
00:02:27.000 I can't see another zombie movie.
00:02:29.000 I can't.
00:02:30.000 I just don't have the interest.
00:02:31.000 I know whoever I'm watching in the beginning is going to be there at the end.
00:02:35.000 They might lose a few friends along the way.
00:02:37.000 Blah, blah, blah.
00:02:37.000 I can't watch it.
00:02:38.000 They usually lose a few of the douchey ones, right?
00:02:40.000 They get wiped out.
00:02:41.000 Of course, yeah.
00:02:42.000 As soon as someone shows any unfavorable characteristics, you know, there's zombie bait.
00:02:46.000 Yeah.
00:02:46.000 But that was a great example of what is still possible with the genre.
00:02:52.000 No, I brought the wife to that one, and she normally would never go to see that shit.
00:02:56.000 And she actually, by the end, was like, that was actually not bad.
00:02:59.000 Yeah, that was a good movie.
00:03:00.000 That was fun.
00:03:01.000 You know what wasn't a good movie?
00:03:03.000 Abe Lincoln, Vampire Hunter.
00:03:04.000 Oh, Jesus.
00:03:06.000 Well, thank you for saving the money of going.
00:03:08.000 How dare you?
00:03:09.000 It was fun for a little while.
00:03:10.000 It was fun for, like, the first hour.
00:03:12.000 And then I was like, okay.
00:03:13.000 This shit's just getting ridiculous, man.
00:03:16.000 Once he started going through history and fighting...
00:03:18.000 Okay, come on.
00:03:20.000 Just silly.
00:03:21.000 This is fucking commercials.
00:03:23.000 We haven't even gotten to the podcast, Adam Scorgy.
00:03:25.000 I'm really stoned.
00:03:26.000 Yeah, you might be.
00:03:28.000 The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast.
00:03:30.000 As I was saying before, I got so rudely interrupted with my own shenanigans.
00:03:35.000 We are brought to you by The Fleshlight.
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00:03:45.000 Oh, people have been asking us, are we sponsored by Alienware?
00:03:48.000 There was a thread where people were saying that you say you only have two sponsors, but it seems like you have three now.
00:03:56.000 Alienware is not our sponsor.
00:03:59.000 Alienware hooked us up and our sponsor is Sucker Punch Entertainment.
00:04:06.000 So the story behind it is I wanted to switch to Alienware computers because Because Alienware computers are supporting a lot of MMA fighters.
00:04:20.000 There's a lot of guys that are getting sponsored by Alienware.
00:04:23.000 And I think that's awesome that a huge company like Dell has the balls to do something like that.
00:04:28.000 And so I looked for a way to do a deal with Alienware computers.
00:04:35.000 But the way we're doing it is I'm doing a deal through Sucker Punch Entertainment.
00:04:40.000 So that is the answer to that question.
00:04:42.000 And it's primarily to support a company that supports MMA fighters.
00:04:47.000 And I think that's a good thing for all of us.
00:04:49.000 And if it takes me an extra 15 seconds on a podcast to do that, I would like to do that.
00:04:56.000 Because I think it's one of the coolest things that we can do as consumers is support companies that support the things that we enjoy, the things that we like.
00:05:06.000 Especially companies that take a chance on MMA, which of course is a very big passion of mine.
00:05:14.000 So, that's the answer to that question.
00:05:15.000 We are also sponsored by Onnit.
00:05:17.000 Onnit.com.
00:05:18.000 If you go there, you can check out the new kettlebells that we have in.
00:05:23.000 We just got them.
00:05:24.000 They're fucking awesome.
00:05:25.000 They're the best kettlebells you can buy.
00:05:28.000 These York kettlebells, they're the shit.
00:05:30.000 They're really badass.
00:05:31.000 And they're heavy as fuck.
00:05:33.000 So you have to send these things through the mail.
00:05:35.000 The whole thing is a very cuntified process.
00:05:38.000 I mean, if you can't imagine, you're sending cannonballs, essentially, cast iron cannonballs through the mail.
00:05:45.000 I mean, it so sucks for the UPS lady.
00:05:48.000 I mean, it's fucking, you get one of those...
00:05:50.000 They must spill up the ass for that, too.
00:05:51.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, it's brutal.
00:05:53.000 But...
00:05:55.000 They're the best we can sell at the lowest price we can sell.
00:06:00.000 You get them and they last for the rest of your life.
00:06:03.000 And I swear, you don't need anything else to get a workout.
00:06:06.000 My best workouts, I use a chin-up bar and three kettlebells.
00:06:11.000 I don't need to do anything else.
00:06:12.000 I can do everything with these fucking things.
00:06:15.000 And when you do kettlebells, you get like a functional strength that I never felt that I got from regular lifting.
00:06:22.000 From regular lifting, like when you isolate things, like isolate triceps and isolate biceps, a lot of times that can lead to injury, especially bicep tears.
00:06:31.000 Happens on a lot of guys who used to do a lot of curls because you stress out the muscle from that weightlifting like that, you know, the isolating one particular muscle.
00:06:42.000 It's an unnatural thing to do.
00:06:43.000 And then when you go and box and actually use your arms, that's where guys were blowing out their biceps tendon.
00:06:48.000 Well, I had not my bicep, but my shoulders have clicked the last.
00:06:51.000 Because for a while, when I was in New York, and I had started my career in modeling, then went to film school, You sexy bitch.
00:06:57.000 No, no.
00:06:57.000 You sexy bitch!
00:06:59.000 I'm a fat dad now, but...
00:07:00.000 How dare you.
00:07:01.000 I did a lot of just, you know, training just to make the physique look good, and then went back to boxing, because I used to box when I was younger.
00:07:07.000 I was like a Western Canadian champ when I was younger, but...
00:07:10.000 So now my shoulders would click, right?
00:07:11.000 I had to go get prolotherapy.
00:07:13.000 Oh, yeah.
00:07:14.000 Have you heard about that?
00:07:14.000 Yeah, I've had that.
00:07:15.000 I've had that on my wrist.
00:07:16.000 Did it work good for you?
00:07:17.000 It worked great.
00:07:18.000 It worked fantastic for me.
00:07:18.000 It's amazing.
00:07:19.000 Yeah, that's considered like...
00:07:21.000 If you don't...
00:07:21.000 Yeah, folks, if you don't know what it is...
00:07:23.000 Well, is it considered hogwash?
00:07:24.000 Is that what you were saying?
00:07:25.000 Well, every time I mention...
00:07:27.000 Like, my naturopath is a good buddy of mine from high school.
00:07:30.000 And I'll mention him to regular doctors.
00:07:32.000 He'll be like, oh, my naturopath said this.
00:07:33.000 And my real doctor will stop right and be like, you shouldn't listen to what they have to say.
00:07:37.000 Yeah, that is a tricky thing, right?
00:07:38.000 Like, doctors don't want to listen to any herbal talk.
00:07:41.000 Like, show your herbal hole, natural physician, or whatever the fuck you're calling yourself.
00:07:47.000 You know, because there's too much of it that is just fuckery.
00:07:50.000 That's why.
00:07:51.000 You know, a lot of it might be legit.
00:07:53.000 There's probably a lot in herbal medicine that is legit.
00:07:56.000 There's a lot of fuckery going on with that, too, though.
00:07:59.000 No, man, they...
00:08:02.000 Naturopaths, what?
00:08:03.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:08:04.000 Come on, son.
00:08:05.000 For sure.
00:08:05.000 It seems like it should be an honorable occupation.
00:08:07.000 Get people to live their life in a healthy way and eat healthy vitamins and take healthy nutrients.
00:08:13.000 That's what my buddy told me.
00:08:15.000 He said, you know, when you go that way...
00:08:17.000 You have to come halfway.
00:08:18.000 Half of it is you living right, eating right, looking after yourself.
00:08:21.000 But my naturopath also does prescriptions.
00:08:27.000 When you get sick, you need an antibiotic.
00:08:30.000 I try to make it so your body doesn't get there.
00:08:33.000 Right.
00:08:33.000 Well, that is smart, right?
00:08:35.000 But why does it seem like fuckery?
00:08:37.000 When you bring it up, I mean, I'm trying so hard to not be judgmental.
00:08:42.000 But if someone says naturopath, I'm like, okay, maybe he's one of the good guys.
00:08:47.000 I mean, it's like anything else.
00:08:49.000 When you get into astrology or any time you go down weird streets, There's just too many people that are shitting in the alleys.
00:08:56.000 I'm sure a few people down Weird Street have a point.
00:08:59.000 I'm not saying they don't.
00:09:01.000 I'm definitely not saying they don't.
00:09:03.000 But goddamn, a lot of them seem to...
00:09:06.000 It seems to be crazy.
00:09:07.000 Yeah, and then they ruin it for all of them.
00:09:09.000 They ruin it for everybody else.
00:09:10.000 But you had the prolo done.
00:09:12.000 I mean, I had it done on my shoulders.
00:09:13.000 I would just pick up a milk jug out of the fridge quick, and it'd slip a little bit, right?
00:09:17.000 For people who don't know what prolotherapy is, if you have ligament problems, a lot of people recommend this thing called prolotherapy, which they inject like a glucose solution directly into your ligaments and your tendons.
00:09:31.000 And it actually forces them to swell and grow, and they strengthen by as much as 30 to 40%.
00:09:37.000 I'm pretty sure that's been proven.
00:09:41.000 Yeah, I mean, and the way that it started, my naturopath was telling me that the way that he...
00:09:46.000 That got into is in the United States when you'd have to go, you get approved for insurance to go get shoulder surgery and they estimated 60 grand.
00:09:53.000 They would try to put you on the prolo first.
00:09:55.000 They're like, well, this is only five grand, so why don't we try the prolo therapy first?
00:09:59.000 Then if that doesn't work, then we'll book you in.
00:10:01.000 It works for a lot of people.
00:10:03.000 Some of the mistakes in the industry can actually turn out to have positives in other ways.
00:10:09.000 I'm not saying for everybody, there's not...
00:10:11.000 The way he put it to me, it made so much sense.
00:10:13.000 He said, listen, Adam, he's like, before you go get surgery, and they hack and chop, and they take stuff out that you can't get back, try my process.
00:10:20.000 He's like, I've had former NHL players and stuff that have had it done, have had wicked, wicked results.
00:10:26.000 If mine doesn't work, then go get your shoulder chopped.
00:10:29.000 Well, what exactly was wrong with your shoulder?
00:10:30.000 Should we get out of these commercials real quick?
00:10:32.000 Yeah, these commercials are fucking gigantic.
00:10:35.000 This is still a commercial.
00:10:37.000 What is it?
00:10:38.000 Is it really a commercial?
00:10:39.000 God damn it.
00:10:40.000 It's a fucking show.
00:10:40.000 And in the show, this is the beginning part.
00:10:42.000 And in the beginning part, we do commercials.
00:10:44.000 But sometimes we talk, too.
00:10:45.000 It's okay.
00:10:46.000 It doesn't...
00:10:46.000 For the serious.
00:10:48.000 It takes it out of serious.
00:10:50.000 Well, this would be just the internet's mystery.
00:10:53.000 Okay.
00:10:54.000 Onit.com.
00:10:55.000 Kettlebells.
00:10:56.000 They're awesome.
00:10:57.000 My point before all that was just that isolating muscle groups is kind of an unnatural thing.
00:11:02.000 And the natural way to work out with weights is to use your whole body.
00:11:06.000 And that's the benefit of kettlebells.
00:11:08.000 The exercises allow you to use your momentum and explosive energy.
00:11:12.000 It's all like...
00:11:14.000 You know, they're like real power lifting exercises like cleans and snatches.
00:11:18.000 Did he say snatches?
00:11:20.000 Yes, I did.
00:11:21.000 Squats and alternating cleans.
00:11:24.000 There's so many badass Turkish get-ups.
00:11:26.000 There's so many badass exercises you can do with kettlebells.
00:11:29.000 And go check them out.
00:11:30.000 They're for sale on it.com.
00:11:31.000 O-N-N-I-T. Also, get yourself some Alpha Brain or you'll sound stupid.
00:11:38.000 That's my new approach.
00:11:40.000 What's alpha brain?
00:11:40.000 I found out that you didn't give me the new alpha brain, Joe.
00:11:43.000 I thought I did.
00:11:44.000 The new one has a sticker on it that says, now with something else.
00:11:48.000 I might not have that yet.
00:11:49.000 Do you guys have any of that here?
00:11:50.000 Not on me.
00:11:51.000 Brett tried it.
00:11:52.000 I think I have some in my car.
00:11:54.000 Brett tried it and said he loved it for his writing.
00:11:56.000 He liked it.
00:11:57.000 It's legit.
00:11:58.000 Look, it's very controversial.
00:12:01.000 I can't talk about this any other way other than this way.
00:12:04.000 So even though it sounds very repetitive, some people, this might be the first podcast they've ever heard.
00:12:08.000 So please forgive me.
00:12:09.000 But what they are is nutrients that have been shown to have a positive effect on your brain's ability to produce neurotransmitters.
00:12:19.000 Your brain's ability to work in a smooth fashion.
00:12:22.000 What are those?
00:12:23.000 You want some gummy bears?
00:12:24.000 No!
00:12:24.000 Those are scary as fuck.
00:12:25.000 I know what those are.
00:12:28.000 Those are those dangerous gummy bears.
00:12:30.000 Be careful, Adam Scorgy.
00:12:32.000 Yeah, don't throw those over here.
00:12:33.000 If you have any questions about the nutrients or anything, the research on the nutrients, if you go to Onnit.com, all the information is up online.
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00:13:09.000 Get yourself some brain pills, you dirty bitches.
00:13:12.000 All right.
00:13:12.000 Adam Skorgy's here, ladies and gentlemen.
00:13:14.000 get down to business Joe Rogan Podcast check it out the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan Podcast by night all day yo - Whoa.
00:13:28.000 What's going on?
00:13:29.000 People are getting mad at me for my fucking commercials.
00:13:32.000 What, man?
00:13:33.000 I like the way you do your commercials because they actually get into it.
00:13:36.000 Listening to your podcast, I'll get lost in your career.
00:13:39.000 I'm like, oh shit, they're still in a commercial.
00:13:40.000 They've got to bring it back yet.
00:13:42.000 I'm not very professional, but it is what it is, folks.
00:13:44.000 I think it's a better way of doing it.
00:13:46.000 Let it fucking fly.
00:13:47.000 Who gives a shit?
00:13:49.000 I think it's a better way of doing it.
00:13:50.000 Yes, I agree.
00:13:52.000 Holla!
00:13:53.000 Adam Skorgy, ladies and gentlemen, my friend from another country.
00:13:57.000 Yeah, well, not too far.
00:13:58.000 He's from up north.
00:14:01.000 Our cousin to the north.
00:14:02.000 Is that what we are?
00:14:03.000 Are we brothers and sisters or are we cousins?
00:14:05.000 Because that's fucked up.
00:14:06.000 We live right next door.
00:14:07.000 We can't be brothers and sisters.
00:14:08.000 I think we've got to be brothers and sisters.
00:14:10.000 Then you've got to let the Mexicans in, too.
00:14:11.000 That means...
00:14:12.000 Hey, you know what?
00:14:13.000 Honestly, without...
00:14:14.000 Without how hard I have to work on my yard, we'd welcome...
00:14:17.000 I'm not trying to be...
00:14:18.000 Oh, how rude.
00:14:19.000 How dare you.
00:14:21.000 How dare you suggest that Mexicans work on yards?
00:14:23.000 Man, the ones down from my parents in Texas, they do a magical job, and they're $40 a week.
00:14:30.000 They cut out sod and replace it.
00:14:33.000 You couldn't get someone to do what they do for $500 a week.
00:14:37.000 Yeah, that's a lot of fucking work, man.
00:14:39.000 Being a gardener?
00:14:40.000 Goddamn.
00:14:41.000 Think of how hard it is to be a goddamn gardener.
00:14:43.000 That shit's brutal.
00:14:46.000 Digging ditches all day out in LA. Holy shit, man.
00:14:50.000 LA is kind of a crazy place to live, if you really stop and think about it.
00:14:53.000 We've got a lot of people here, and there's no fucking water.
00:14:57.000 We have to steal the water from the Colorado River.
00:15:00.000 We call our thing the LA River.
00:15:03.000 That is the most hilarious river ever.
00:15:05.000 It is like the perfect example of what's wrong with LA. It's cement.
00:15:10.000 The LA River literally is a cement tube, and they call it the LA River.
00:15:15.000 Like, that is not a fucking river!
00:15:17.000 You assholes!
00:15:19.000 That's a fake river!
00:15:20.000 And you know, you guys get power from Canada, actually, from dams not far from where I live.
00:15:24.000 We steal it or do we buy it?
00:15:25.000 No, we buy it.
00:15:26.000 We steal it.
00:15:29.000 Dangerous weapons in Canada next.
00:15:32.000 How do you guys make the power?
00:15:34.000 Through big hydroelectric dams in the mountains.
00:15:38.000 Wow.
00:15:38.000 So then you sell it to the United States?
00:15:40.000 What parts of the United States?
00:15:42.000 California is one.
00:15:42.000 We brought it up in the Union.
00:15:44.000 Remember, Mayor of Vancouver, Larry Campbell, he says, he's like, I don't think the trades would stop.
00:15:48.000 He's like, do you want L.A. in the dark and thirsty?
00:15:51.000 Because we ship water, too, right?
00:15:52.000 Wow.
00:15:53.000 So, that's incredible.
00:15:55.000 So, the dams make so much electricity that you can power LA? Yeah.
00:16:00.000 Well, I don't think it powers the whole...
00:16:02.000 I don't even know how they ship it or how it works, but we sell it.
00:16:05.000 Do you even understand electricity?
00:16:07.000 Yeah, I... No, I don't.
00:16:08.000 Do you even...
00:16:09.000 I do know that this...
00:16:10.000 Because I don't...
00:16:10.000 Yeah, I have no idea how they save it in turbines.
00:16:14.000 It's a mindfuck.
00:16:14.000 It's a mindfuck.
00:16:15.000 Our fucking houses are, at every moment...
00:16:19.000 Electrocuted.
00:16:19.000 There's fucking cords, and if you lick them, your head would explode.
00:16:24.000 It's just shooting this shit that powers up TVs and air conditioning.
00:16:30.000 You don't even think about it.
00:16:31.000 You just plug in.
00:16:32.000 You're plugging into the nuttiest fucking thing you could ever possibly imagine.
00:16:36.000 Some sort of an electrical pulse, an electrical field, an electrical...
00:16:41.000 There's a wire, and it's connected to Somehow down the river, there's a fucking nuclear explosion.
00:16:48.000 It's connected to a fucking nuclear power plant and it's in your house.
00:16:53.000 There's a direct line from that thing down to some fucking sun in the middle of downtown San Diego, wherever the fuck that power plant is.
00:17:01.000 Man, you always get people thinking deep.
00:17:04.000 Dude, that's a terrifying thought.
00:17:06.000 Well, I was trying to think, how do they ship it?
00:17:08.000 How do you store it?
00:17:09.000 Do you put it in a can?
00:17:10.000 Obviously, it has to come through a line that then goes through it.
00:17:12.000 I didn't even understand it a little tiny bit.
00:17:14.000 There was a girl in the Starbucks the other day, and I was getting my coffee, and she was talking to her boyfriend, and she was like, what if it was fucking total chaos, like if the power never came back on?
00:17:31.000 And I was like, wow, isn't that incredible that what we think of as total chaos is the grid?
00:17:38.000 That if we lost this crazy thing that we've constructed, there's no way we could live without it.
00:17:42.000 That's a weird fucking combination of human and machine and technology and relying on it all, all the time, and just being terrified of the idea of being forced to live off the land, use tools, catch your food.
00:18:03.000 Like you said, it is Skynet.
00:18:05.000 Isn't that crazy?
00:18:07.000 What a weird thing that we've become that we haven't even noticed.
00:18:10.000 It sort of snuck up on us and we became like a hybrid.
00:18:14.000 We're like part people and fucking part technology.
00:18:17.000 We're constantly on the tit of technology.
00:18:21.000 All day.
00:18:22.000 Paul Day.
00:18:23.000 All fucking day.
00:18:25.000 How do you do it with your...
00:18:26.000 Joe, you're pretty good with your Twitter getting back to everybody.
00:18:28.000 I mean...
00:18:29.000 I can't get back to everybody.
00:18:30.000 It's impossible.
00:18:31.000 I mean, I would get nothing done.
00:18:33.000 If I did, I would like...
00:18:35.000 You know what I mean?
00:18:35.000 I mean, I try to.
00:18:36.000 I get back to people occasionally.
00:18:39.000 But I can't commit to doing it to everybody.
00:18:41.000 It's just impossible.
00:18:42.000 But I think you do a pretty good job.
00:18:44.000 I'm always able to hit you up there and you get back to me.
00:18:47.000 I think you do a pretty good job.
00:18:48.000 I mean, I'm looking at mine.
00:18:49.000 I only have like 11,000 followers.
00:18:51.000 And I'm finding it hard to just try to be...
00:18:53.000 It can get pretty nutty.
00:18:55.000 I wonder how a dude like Justin Timberlake rocks it.
00:18:58.000 I think they just have guys run it.
00:19:00.000 That's so sad.
00:19:01.000 That's what I don't like.
00:19:02.000 People like that, it just seems like it's their generic tweet where they're like, my show is here, I'm playing here, tickets hit.
00:19:07.000 There's none of them just saying, oh shit, I just saw the craze.
00:19:10.000 You're like, okay, that's just someone running it on a generic program.
00:19:13.000 It's not them anymore.
00:19:14.000 Well, I think they just give it, they hand it over to the publicists.
00:19:17.000 Some people do.
00:19:18.000 Yeah.
00:19:19.000 Yeah, that's unfortunate.
00:19:20.000 You know, because I like Kevin Smith's tweets.
00:19:22.000 I know Kevin Smith's writing those tweets.
00:19:24.000 You know what I mean?
00:19:25.000 Like Jim Norton.
00:19:26.000 I love Jim Norton's tweets.
00:19:28.000 I know he's writing them.
00:19:30.000 No, and that's the same.
00:19:31.000 I'd stop following the people that I don't think is writing them when it's just these great quotes all the time and stuff like Will Smith's quotes every day.
00:19:38.000 And I'm like, okay, like, that's, I think, Joe, I think that's, I was talking to Brian earlier, like, the community you guys built is because you guys are, like, interactively and you do do it yourself.
00:19:47.000 You're not having a publicist, like, checking everything you tweet and saying, shouldn't do this and shouldn't, and doing it for you.
00:19:53.000 But we should all totally have that.
00:19:56.000 It's really dumb that I don't, I do the things I do.
00:20:01.000 Brian wants an intervention.
00:20:04.000 Someone save me from myself.
00:20:07.000 Well, maybe I missed it, but you haven't done a tweet that's so bad.
00:20:11.000 No, look, we're nice people.
00:20:12.000 No, I'm fast deleting.
00:20:14.000 The bottom line is that we're nice people.
00:20:17.000 You've got to be a nice person, man.
00:20:19.000 Life can throw you some situations that could go one way if you choose to be a nice person or it could go horribly wrong if you choose to be a douchebag or choose to...
00:20:31.000 Be weird about it or not be considerate about another person's feelings.
00:20:35.000 It's these little moments where we decide who we are.
00:20:39.000 It happens.
00:20:40.000 You can go down the wrong road.
00:20:43.000 It doesn't mean you're a bad person.
00:20:44.000 You made a mistake.
00:20:46.000 You might have overreacted.
00:20:47.000 You might have been stressed out about something.
00:20:50.000 Doesn't mean you still can't be a good person.
00:20:52.000 You just gotta reset and realize you're not the past.
00:20:56.000 You're not all your fuck-ups.
00:20:57.000 You're what you've learned.
00:20:59.000 You're now.
00:20:59.000 You're the you now that gets it.
00:21:02.000 So move forward.
00:21:03.000 Move forward and let that shit go.
00:21:05.000 Well, I have to bring it up for the people listening, Joe.
00:21:08.000 I mean, how cool you were when we first came to do The Union, right?
00:21:11.000 Todd called you.
00:21:12.000 We needed someone that we knew.
00:21:13.000 We needed someone that knew the subject matter that was a celebrity punch.
00:21:16.000 And, you know, three guys from Canada.
00:21:18.000 You said, yeah, no problem.
00:21:19.000 We come to your house.
00:21:20.000 I mean, still people are like, what was the first time you met Joe?
00:21:23.000 I was like, we came to the house and he's like, how long to set up the lighting?
00:21:25.000 And we're like, oh, 20 minutes.
00:21:26.000 He's like, oh, the kitchen's over there and I'll be right back.
00:21:28.000 I'm just going on my computer.
00:21:30.000 And I was like, man, we're just three random guys from Canada and you're...
00:21:33.000 Todd is a very good friend.
00:21:36.000 He's done a lot for the whole legalization process.
00:21:42.000 I shouldn't even say that.
00:21:43.000 I should say the awareness process.
00:21:45.000 He's got a great book on how to grow hemp.
00:21:48.000 He's a brilliant guy when it comes to the history of it.
00:21:52.000 And it's helped him personally through cancer.
00:21:55.000 So he's very passionate about it.
00:21:57.000 So when he brought it up to me, I was just like, okay, let's do it.
00:22:02.000 It was awesome, man.
00:22:02.000 Because, I mean, you're the number one asked-for guy to interview for the next one.
00:22:07.000 Like, that's how everyone's like, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe.
00:22:09.000 Oh, that's cool.
00:22:10.000 I was like, I'll talk to him.
00:22:11.000 I was like, they're like, you gotta have him.
00:22:13.000 And, I mean, Joe, I mean, I had to watch the film 1,000 times, but when I'd go to, like, sold-out theaters, and every time you're thinking, like, I could count.
00:22:22.000 We knew the spots where people would laugh.
00:22:23.000 We're like, okay, cheeseburger thing coming up here.
00:22:25.000 Let's nerf the world.
00:22:26.000 And I'd just literally go to the person I watched and crowd will laugh now.
00:22:30.000 And they would every time, man.
00:22:31.000 It was...
00:22:32.000 To see that reaction.
00:22:33.000 And when we did the union, it came out.
00:22:35.000 I don't think a lot of people had seen you in that context.
00:22:38.000 They knew you was a UFC guy.
00:22:39.000 Not a lot of people knew you from news radio unless they were a diehard fan.
00:22:42.000 And then they knew you from Fear Factor.
00:22:44.000 Right.
00:22:44.000 So they didn't see it.
00:22:45.000 Because I remember a lot of people were like, Fear Factor guy?
00:22:48.000 Smokes weed?
00:22:48.000 They were so shocked when you said that.
00:22:50.000 In the opening part we have you saying, I realized when I was 30 years old that I'd be fucking tricked.
00:22:54.000 You've got to be fucking kidding me.
00:22:56.000 Yeah.
00:22:56.000 Well, that's really what it is.
00:22:59.000 I was just being honest about it.
00:23:04.000 I didn't think doing it was anything other than what I had to do.
00:23:11.000 When you know something about something, like when you have an experience, especially an experience about something that has such a tainted name like marijuana, you're just like, Oh, marijuana.
00:23:21.000 What is he, a loser?
00:23:22.000 Just listless and no spine and no motivation.
00:23:28.000 It's just got this terrible connotation and connection to it.
00:23:32.000 And I bought it hook, line, and sinker until I was 30 years old and Eddie Bravo got me high.
00:23:39.000 Yeah, I remember when you brought Eddie over that day the first time we met.
00:23:42.000 Yeah.
00:23:42.000 I mean, I was the same way when we did the union.
00:23:44.000 I think that's why the union turned out so good, is that we weren't activists or anything in the beginning.
00:23:49.000 Yeah, you weren't a pot smoker at all, and that's what I tell people.
00:23:51.000 They're like, oh, what is he like?
00:23:52.000 Is he a stoner?
00:23:53.000 No, I don't.
00:23:54.000 No, he's like a clean-cut, Kirk-looking Barbie motherfucker.
00:23:58.000 What's his name?
00:23:58.000 Ken.
00:23:59.000 That's the guy.
00:24:00.000 Well, thanks.
00:24:00.000 I'll tell you.
00:24:00.000 You're like a Ken.
00:24:01.000 You're like a Ken, though.
00:24:02.000 Why am I saying Kirk?
00:24:03.000 Kirk?
00:24:03.000 Kirk.
00:24:04.000 I don't know where I got Kirk from.
00:24:05.000 Has there been a black Barbie guy yet?
00:24:07.000 There should be.
00:24:07.000 What the fuck, man?
00:24:08.000 Has there?
00:24:09.000 They're scared.
00:24:10.000 White people are so scared.
00:24:12.000 So scared of a black man.
00:24:16.000 Has to be.
00:24:18.000 I bet there probably have.
00:24:20.000 I mean, there must be.
00:24:22.000 Ken must have a friend.
00:24:24.000 I bet he has really white features, though.
00:24:27.000 Let's see what his features look like.
00:24:29.000 I don't know if there's any black men.
00:24:30.000 I think I remember some of the black Barbie friends, but I mean, there wasn't my toy by choice.
00:24:35.000 Black Barbie?
00:24:35.000 They must have black Barbie.
00:24:37.000 Yeah, they do, and it's No, it looks pretty creepy.
00:24:40.000 Now, how does that work?
00:24:41.000 I mean, that's pretty creepy.
00:24:42.000 Oh, shit.
00:24:43.000 That's like Tyrese.
00:24:45.000 No, or Tyson Beckford.
00:24:46.000 Yeah, that's a handsome black man.
00:24:48.000 Look, you just gotta accept that.
00:24:50.000 If that girl meets that guy, he's gonna fuck her.
00:24:53.000 That's a representative in doll form of what would really happen.
00:24:57.000 Look at his body.
00:24:58.000 He's a super athlete.
00:24:59.000 I wonder if the white guy's got a body like that.
00:25:01.000 Pull up a white pen.
00:25:03.000 See if they only gave the black guy a body like that, because that would be hilarious.
00:25:08.000 Because if that was a human being...
00:25:09.000 I think that one's just a spoof one that someone made.
00:25:12.000 Oh, stop, stop, stop.
00:25:13.000 It's real, it's real.
00:25:14.000 It's real, man.
00:25:15.000 That's Brian fucking with you.
00:25:16.000 You son of a bitch!
00:25:18.000 You son of a bitch, Brian!
00:25:21.000 That's a Tyson Bexford.
00:25:23.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I apologize.
00:25:26.000 I've been trolled.
00:25:28.000 He got me.
00:25:29.000 Brian, that was pretty good.
00:25:30.000 Son of a bitch.
00:25:35.000 Are boys supposed to have the Ken doll?
00:25:39.000 Is that what it is?
00:25:40.000 Or girls buy the boy doll?
00:25:42.000 I thought they tried to sell it as that, but I don't think it ever...
00:25:45.000 I don't think it was.
00:25:45.000 I think it never was for guys at all.
00:25:47.000 A few dudes must have bought it and been like, what the fuck did I do?
00:25:51.000 I did G.I. Joe fucking Barbie in the hot tub.
00:25:53.000 I was going to say, every time I go over to my cousins and there'd be Barbie and Ken, I'd strip them down and put them in a sexual position.
00:26:00.000 I was like seven, so you only knew missionary, right?
00:26:02.000 You'd just always be a guy on top.
00:26:05.000 Yeah.
00:26:08.000 Barbie.
00:26:09.000 Ken.
00:26:11.000 I would buy Hulk dolls and shit like that.
00:26:14.000 Why is that any better?
00:26:16.000 Why is that any better than Ken?
00:26:17.000 It's the Hulk.
00:26:18.000 UN saw Avengers.
00:26:19.000 All good was Avengers.
00:26:20.000 If you had a Ken doll, that's how you'd get into the Barbie party.
00:26:23.000 If all those little girls are hanging out and partying, you want to party with them, you've got to get a Ken doll.
00:26:28.000 It's like your car.
00:26:29.000 It's like your vehicle for getting into the little girl party.
00:26:33.000 I would have tried more of the approach of just Hulk smash his way in there.
00:26:37.000 Oh, that's what you do?
00:26:38.000 You can't do that when you're 12, man.
00:26:41.000 I just don't think I would have been that slick to think about the hook line to get into the place.
00:26:46.000 Actually, that's ridiculous because 12-year-old boys are not playing Barbie.
00:26:49.000 I wouldn't have been that slick, right?
00:26:52.000 They usually still insult each other when they like each other at that age.
00:26:55.000 Yeah, but I'm just saying 12 years old is way too old.
00:26:58.000 They gave up on Barbie.
00:26:59.000 I think kids give up on Barbie real early.
00:27:03.000 Especially now with technology.
00:27:05.000 So any boy who buys a Barbie doll is probably just being tricked if he buys a Ken doll.
00:27:10.000 He's been tricked by marketers.
00:27:11.000 I think he's only been tricked.
00:27:12.000 Marketers have got him.
00:27:13.000 That's what it is.
00:27:15.000 I mean, I collected G.I. Joe's, Masters of the Year.
00:27:17.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:27:18.000 I had all those.
00:27:19.000 I had all the Marvel superheroes.
00:27:21.000 I had all them, too.
00:27:22.000 I was a big Wolverine junkie.
00:27:24.000 I had his first 50 comics.
00:27:26.000 Yeah, men are dorks.
00:27:28.000 Somewhere along the line, though, you feel real guilty about that.
00:27:31.000 I got rid of my comic book collection when I was poor, and I needed money.
00:27:35.000 I sold my entire comic book collection.
00:27:37.000 It was just one of those desperation, I need food moves.
00:27:41.000 And there was a part of me that was like, this is good because you really have to grow up.
00:27:47.000 Like, what are you doing reading comic books?
00:27:49.000 You're in your 20s now, and you're struggling out here.
00:27:53.000 You can barely feed yourself.
00:27:54.000 You're rolling nickels to eat, you know, like finding change in your house.
00:27:59.000 Get rid of the comic book, bitch.
00:28:01.000 Then once I got rid of them, I'm like, man...
00:28:04.000 Did you guys ever experiment with Visionaries?
00:28:07.000 Excuse me?
00:28:08.000 The toy, it was like right after G.I. Joe, and they were like a beefier G.I. Joe, but they had like holograms all over them, like a hologram of a wolf, and it looked pretty sweet.
00:28:16.000 I have no idea what that is.
00:28:16.000 I've never even heard of it.
00:28:18.000 I only, once they stopped G.I. Joe's, I was pissed.
00:28:22.000 That was about when I grew out of it, and it was just video games after that, and sports.
00:28:26.000 I was a huge comic book fan for a long time.
00:28:28.000 I wanted to be a comic book illustrator at one point, so I was always like buying...
00:28:33.000 Can you draw?
00:28:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:34.000 I used to draw real good when I was young.
00:28:36.000 But I had a really douchey high school art teacher that kind of turned me off.
00:28:42.000 He kept emphasizing that, yeah, if you want to be an illustrator, you're going to have to draw things you don't want to draw.
00:28:48.000 You're going to have to draw diaper ads.
00:28:51.000 He's like, diaper ads was the one thing that he kept bringing up.
00:28:54.000 You're a professional artist.
00:28:56.000 You might have to work and do a diaper ad.
00:28:59.000 I was like, this guy's just so negative.
00:29:01.000 Fuck artists.
00:29:03.000 He was a really dour dude.
00:29:07.000 It sucks when you had those kind of teachers in high school, whether it was art class or whatever, that you look back now and realize how they really shouldn't have been there and didn't put in the time.
00:29:16.000 Yeah, he was gross, man.
00:29:18.000 Even if you drew your interpretation of something, like a weird sort of interpretation of something, he would be like, if they want you to draw something for an advertisement, you draw what they ask you to draw.
00:29:32.000 I'm like, dude, you're gross.
00:29:33.000 This is gross.
00:29:35.000 You're putting this weird fucking spin on what is and isn't cool to draw.
00:29:40.000 I like comic books, bitch!
00:29:42.000 You're telling me there's something wrong with that?
00:29:44.000 Yeah, and look, the comic industry, now they're all transferring to video game industry, which is huge, so...
00:29:49.000 Those people that were telling them not to do that is stupid.
00:29:53.000 But then you get that one good teacher that actually takes a little bit of time and you're like, whoa, I can learn so much when I just get that little bit of respect.
00:30:02.000 I remember I had an English teacher and it was in the 10th grade and I didn't know how to write essays properly because I didn't pay attention in my other classes and Instead of just giving me C- or D, she came up to me after class, she's like, Adam, has anyone ever told you that you write your opening statement and your argument of how to do it?
00:30:18.000 And I was like, no.
00:30:19.000 And she's like, oh my god.
00:30:21.000 She's like, okay, well, I'll help you with that.
00:30:24.000 But I thought that was so simple, that was the first teacher to just ask.
00:30:27.000 Instead of just giving me a flunking grade, being like, do you know how to do this?
00:30:31.000 Yeah, I had a really, really cool English teacher that everybody tried to get into her class.
00:30:37.000 And when they got in their class, they were psyched.
00:30:39.000 Because she was really generous with the grades.
00:30:42.000 But she was just the sweetest, nicest lady.
00:30:45.000 And when you would go into her class, it would be a completely different vibe than all the other classes.
00:30:50.000 Everybody was happy.
00:30:51.000 They were all relaxed.
00:30:53.000 Because there was no, like, authoritarian.
00:30:54.000 But she was such a nice person, you would never want to get her upset with you.
00:30:58.000 If she had to quiet you down because you were talking in the back of the room or something like that, you would feel genuinely bad.
00:31:04.000 You'd apologize because she was a sweet, sweet person.
00:31:08.000 She was so inspirational.
00:31:10.000 There's one lady teacher, and I had one Spanish teacher that was a bad motherfucker as well.
00:31:16.000 But right, he was like, he wasn't like, I think he was a fairly young guy, and he was handsome.
00:31:23.000 And like, the girls were like all over him, man.
00:31:27.000 And the dude, like, I know he had to dodge like a lot of 17-year-old girls.
00:31:33.000 Because he was a really handsome guy.
00:31:35.000 I don't think he was any older than 23 or 24. That's a scary situation to be in.
00:31:40.000 Really interesting, man.
00:31:41.000 Because he was not much older than us.
00:31:43.000 I remember that feeling.
00:31:44.000 He was so much closer to us than all these other teachers.
00:31:47.000 The math teacher was in her 50s.
00:31:49.000 This guy was still alive.
00:31:51.000 He was still pulsing.
00:31:52.000 Because all the rest are dead.
00:31:53.000 Dude, there were some dead people that was teaching high school, man.
00:31:57.000 I know.
00:31:57.000 I mean, I wasn't the greatest in high school.
00:32:00.000 It's hard.
00:32:02.000 It doesn't pay well.
00:32:03.000 The kids aren't behaved.
00:32:05.000 The kids are like me.
00:32:06.000 I wasn't not behaved.
00:32:08.000 I was an idiot.
00:32:09.000 I was, too.
00:32:10.000 I mean, I used to get into fights all the time because I was insecure, and so I was always getting in trouble for that.
00:32:15.000 But I'll tell you that teachers, what they told me later on is that they used to hear so many bad things about me in the staff room that they were terrified of me in their class.
00:32:23.000 But the teachers that were cool, I never ever, like you said, if I had a teacher that showed me respect from the beginning, if she asked me, I would feel guilty, like you said, or he, I'd be like, oh, I let him down, because this guy treats me, he's really teaching me, and he treats me as an adult, and is trying to get me to, instead of, like you said, coming in like a dictator and slashing you down, I never responded well with those teachers.
00:32:47.000 Yeah, I don't like anybody that's a douchebag.
00:32:50.000 And I don't want to be them when I grow up.
00:32:53.000 You know, that's how I would feel.
00:32:54.000 I'd be in their class, I'd be like, shut down!
00:32:57.000 Boom!
00:32:58.000 Not paying attention.
00:33:00.000 Barely squeaked through.
00:33:01.000 That was my strategy for basically every class.
00:33:04.000 Mine too.
00:33:05.000 I barely...
00:33:05.000 It was funny because one of the teachers, my buddy works at a bank and they're getting a loan.
00:33:10.000 And she brought up, she's like, where's that Adam Scorgy kid?
00:33:12.000 Is he in jail or is he...
00:33:14.000 With the bikers now?
00:33:15.000 And then my buddy's like, no, actually, he's going to be on TV this week.
00:33:20.000 And they're like, what?
00:33:21.000 And even her husband grabbed her and was kind of like, yeah, he's doing well.
00:33:24.000 So people thought you were going to grow up to be a psycho.
00:33:26.000 Yeah.
00:33:26.000 I mean, I grew up in a different, like, I mean, my dad owned a strip club when I was going through high school and just after high school.
00:33:33.000 It was a nightclub first, then a strip club.
00:33:36.000 And then that was the madness that I inherited when he passed away in 2003. Jesus Christ.
00:33:42.000 And I had been away in New York.
00:33:45.000 How old were you?
00:33:45.000 I was 23. Jesus Christ.
00:33:47.000 And you have to take over this crazy strip club in Vancouver?
00:33:51.000 Is that where it was?
00:33:51.000 No, Kelowna.
00:33:52.000 Kelowna?
00:33:53.000 Yeah, and it was...
00:33:54.000 I mean, that was...
00:33:55.000 There's like biker gangs rolling through there and shit.
00:33:57.000 Yes, yes.
00:33:57.000 You're 23 years old.
00:33:58.000 Well, you see, most of the agencies that send the girls in BC are owned by MC clubs.
00:34:04.000 Holy shit.
00:34:05.000 Right?
00:34:05.000 So my dad had worked in...
00:34:07.000 Yeah.
00:34:07.000 When I took over, it was...
00:34:09.000 We've been trying to put together a screenplay for years.
00:34:12.000 Damn.
00:34:13.000 It was, you know, 23 years old.
00:34:14.000 I'm thrown at this.
00:34:15.000 I was living in New York for four years.
00:34:16.000 Came back.
00:34:17.000 Hadn't been in that environment forever.
00:34:19.000 What is that environment like?
00:34:21.000 Does Vancouver just have a lot of motorcycle gangs?
00:34:23.000 Is that like a real common thing?
00:34:24.000 Yeah, they're the number one.
00:34:25.000 There's an article in the McLeans at the HA where it was rich and powerful in BC, some of the richest out of – they don't have as many rivals.
00:34:34.000 It's smaller.
00:34:35.000 I mean, there's more people in the state of California than the entire country of Canada, right?
00:34:39.000 Right.
00:34:39.000 So it's just smaller, so there's less competition, and they are the number one.
00:34:44.000 Wow.
00:34:45.000 So that's like the organized sort of situation up there?
00:34:49.000 Yeah.
00:34:50.000 How dangerous is it?
00:34:51.000 Well, I mean, I know some of them, like, you know, that I went growing up through the bar that I knew that are great, and, you know, I'm friends with them.
00:34:58.000 Is it an accepted part of the culture up there?
00:35:00.000 Super accepted.
00:35:01.000 Like, actually, when you look at them as a young guy, and you're like, oh, my God, like, when they say crime doesn't pay, and you see these guys that are well-built, in shape, beautiful girlfriends, they have $60,000 Harleys, $60,000 boats, they're in their 20s, and you're like, damn, right?
00:35:16.000 Like, they're the rock stars of Kelowna.
00:35:18.000 Like, when you go to my hometown, it's like, that's...
00:35:21.000 That's the guys.
00:35:22.000 They'll have a boatload of beautiful women.
00:35:25.000 Is it possible to get in trouble for talking about this?
00:35:30.000 Well, that's why I haven't said the actual name.
00:35:32.000 Okay.
00:35:33.000 Yeah.
00:35:35.000 But to you guys, it's like when Vegas ran the mob?
00:35:39.000 Yeah.
00:35:40.000 Rather, the mob ran Vegas?
00:35:42.000 Yeah.
00:35:45.000 In Kelowna, where I live, there's 150,000 people and there's three MC clubs.
00:35:50.000 Now, do they have, like, shootouts and shit?
00:35:52.000 Or do they generally get along?
00:35:53.000 Well, just BC's had a lot of shootings in general with the drug trade coming up right now.
00:35:58.000 Jesus.
00:35:59.000 All could be avoided.
00:36:01.000 You saw that, I mean, I think it made national news where there was that shooting downtown Vancouver in the hotel and...
00:36:07.000 There's like a women's national soccer team staying up.
00:36:11.000 It was broad daylight right in the restaurant.
00:36:13.000 Five-star, four-star hotel right in the lobby.
00:36:16.000 Vancouver's getting back.
00:36:17.000 What was it about?
00:36:18.000 Of course, it's all the drug trade.
00:36:20.000 It just hits.
00:36:21.000 They put a hit on somebody or something.
00:36:23.000 Something to do with that, yeah.
00:36:25.000 Oh, that's so scary, man.
00:36:27.000 That's a scary culture to be crisscrossing with, you know?
00:36:30.000 Man, and then you put booze in that mix and you're running and you're dealing with this ticking time bomb.
00:36:35.000 Yeah.
00:36:35.000 Right?
00:36:35.000 It was a real test.
00:36:37.000 I mean, my wife I'm with now, I mean, she's stuck there with me and helped me through all those headaches when we were going through the place.
00:36:46.000 And I mean, all this happened, like I had a bad, I did a bad deal with a childhood friend on the club, so I didn't get paid.
00:36:51.000 So you were 23, and all of a sudden, you've taken over this crazy little situation.
00:36:56.000 And sharks just everywhere, right?
00:36:58.000 And even some that don't, they don't realize they're going to be a shark, some friends that, because of the club and what that kind of brought for them, they're like, oh, Adam, you should never sell it, it's your dad's legacy, and...
00:37:08.000 Because I wanted to just go back to New York and continue with my film career.
00:37:11.000 I already was starting to do well there, and I wanted nothing.
00:37:15.000 And then I'd be like, oh, it'd sell.
00:37:16.000 And then I'd get convinced to stay, keep it, because my dad left it.
00:37:20.000 And so at the end of the day, I didn't get half of what I was supposed to get out of it.
00:37:25.000 And I was shooting the union.
00:37:27.000 I was planning on using the rest of that to finish.
00:37:29.000 So I had to go back to my stepfather like two or three more times to get the financing we needed to finish.
00:37:35.000 And it was, you know, my first film.
00:37:36.000 So people are starting to think I'm kind of crazy like the astronaut farmer, right?
00:37:40.000 Like you've been working on this film for a year and a half.
00:37:42.000 You've sunk everything into it.
00:37:43.000 You sold your house.
00:37:44.000 Right.
00:37:46.000 It was a really well done movie.
00:37:48.000 You did a really good job of editing it.
00:37:51.000 It was very entertaining.
00:37:52.000 I've seen a bunch of cannabis documentaries and I think yours is the best.
00:37:57.000 I really do.
00:37:58.000 It's a really well done piece.
00:38:01.000 You show so many points and so many sides of it that are just irrefutable.
00:38:06.000 And it's all just laid out there.
00:38:07.000 And people can choose to make their own decisions of what they should and shouldn't do with their body.
00:38:12.000 But if you think that that cannabis should be illegal, you're insane.
00:38:16.000 You're complete.
00:38:17.000 Well, how about that?
00:38:19.000 The film was done so well in Parliament's eyes, I just got invited to Parliament Hill in Canada.
00:38:24.000 That's Canada's White House, for those who out there don't know.
00:38:27.000 I got invited by the Liberals to help show the other MPs the pros and cons of cannabis prohibition with the Union.
00:38:35.000 The way it happened is Aaron Kotler, who is the former, Erwin Kotler, former Attorney General of Canada under Jean Chrétien, He had originally looked to put a decriminalization bill in when Gretchen was ending his term.
00:38:48.000 But then it didn't go through and his son, Oren Collar's son, was actually really pissed off and was like, man, I can't believe you do that.
00:38:54.000 It gets kids addicted.
00:38:55.000 What are you thinking about?
00:38:56.000 So then when it came up recently that now the Liberals in Canada are looking at putting what they call the most comprehensive legalization bill that's been tried to be passed in Canada...
00:39:07.000 His dad mentioned this in an interview, and his son called in, and he's like, hey, why'd you say that I was so against it?
00:39:13.000 And he's like, well, that's what you told me last time.
00:39:14.000 He's like, no, I watched this movie called The Union, and I've totally changed my perspective, and I want you and Mom to see it.
00:39:20.000 So these MPs kept hearing about it, and they kept getting letters from people saying, like, from this, and you should watch it.
00:39:27.000 So they sent me an email and said, hey, can you come out?
00:39:30.000 I thought I was getting punked at first.
00:39:33.000 Like...
00:39:34.000 Think about the topic.
00:39:35.000 Could you see that happening here in the US? Oh, the White House would like to...
00:39:39.000 Impossible.
00:39:39.000 This fucking corrupt cunt farm.
00:39:42.000 Well, there's pictures of me and Brett and we're both just standing there going like, really?
00:39:46.000 You really invited us here?
00:39:48.000 That's incredible.
00:39:49.000 What was it like?
00:39:50.000 Who were you dressed like?
00:39:52.000 I put on a suit.
00:39:53.000 I went to go be professional.
00:39:55.000 Business attire suit?
00:39:56.000 Yeah, full business attire suit.
00:39:57.000 I've got some pictures, Brian, if you want to pull them up.
00:40:01.000 They did a cool way of doing a screening.
00:40:03.000 They had a square table and they had TVs on the inside that were like this.
00:40:07.000 So no matter what side you sat on, you could see them.
00:40:09.000 And then on the tables, there's also the big screen.
00:40:12.000 So everybody's sitting there with their mics and they can all look like they're sitting in the thing looking forward and then...
00:40:18.000 What about the bolo tie?
00:40:20.000 That shit's ridiculous.
00:40:21.000 Which one's the bolo tie?
00:40:22.000 The bolo tie, that little string tie that was super popular for a while.
00:40:26.000 Remember that?
00:40:29.000 They tried to pass it off as a tie, though.
00:40:32.000 It was a bolo tie.
00:40:33.000 You could even sneak into a lot of restaurants that you're supposed to have a tie on with a bolo tie.
00:40:37.000 It's kind of cheating.
00:40:38.000 Brad got nailed at the Parliament Hill restaurant because we went to go there and he just wore a dress shirt and like dress pants but they're like oh no tie.
00:40:46.000 So they had this drawer and I swear they got the ugliest ties ever made just to be like don't you ever forget your tie when you come in here.
00:40:54.000 They were hideous.
00:40:55.000 How silly are times?
00:40:57.000 Come on.
00:40:58.000 How silly is it to say to someone, you're not done.
00:41:02.000 You don't have your full outfit on.
00:41:04.000 You don't have your full outfit.
00:41:06.000 You have a shirt.
00:41:07.000 You have a jacket.
00:41:09.000 No, he didn't have a jacket.
00:41:10.000 Did he have a vest?
00:41:11.000 No, he just had the dress shirt and dress pants.
00:41:12.000 Just a dress shirt and dress pants.
00:41:14.000 I came in the full suit.
00:41:15.000 Not enough.
00:41:15.000 That's not enough.
00:41:16.000 You must have this extra thing, this extra piece of cloth so I know that you're a gentleman.
00:41:21.000 Because only a gentleman wears this extra formal piece of cloth.
00:41:25.000 I don't expect you, with your tie clip, to be calling anybody a cunt or telling people to go fuck themselves.
00:41:32.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:41:32.000 That's when they know they can trust you.
00:41:34.000 There's a lot of stuff when you go in there and you look at the old chairs that they sit in where the queen, if she comes, and you kind of look at all this and you're like, really?
00:41:41.000 Does that matter?
00:41:43.000 Well, what about in the olden days when they wore those crazy wigs?
00:41:48.000 Those dudes wore those crazy powdered wigs?
00:41:51.000 What was that about?
00:41:53.000 When they were in court and shit, they would wear crazy wigs.
00:41:56.000 It was hot and sexy.
00:41:57.000 What are you talking about?
00:41:57.000 Could you imagine how much it must have sucked dick to live back then?
00:42:02.000 It might have been cool to have wigs on.
00:42:04.000 Get the fuck out of here to live.
00:42:06.000 These assholes with wigs on are deciding your future and fucking knocking sticks on the ground.
00:42:12.000 Hear ye, hear ye.
00:42:14.000 Yeah.
00:42:15.000 Everyone would look so weird and mysterious, though.
00:42:17.000 And you'd die of the flu.
00:42:18.000 How about that?
00:42:19.000 Yeah, but has law got much better now?
00:42:20.000 Like, maybe there's not the show, but, I mean, it's a game when you get married.
00:42:24.000 Oh, it's certainly a game.
00:42:25.000 Law is confusing, man.
00:42:26.000 It's like, God, who is this benefiting to have so goddamn many of them?
00:42:30.000 Even lawyers.
00:42:31.000 I mean, folks, let's just...
00:42:33.000 We need balance.
00:42:34.000 We need balance.
00:42:35.000 We can't have people just struggling to try to sue people.
00:42:38.000 We need some balance in this.
00:42:40.000 Well, that was the other thing is after I had dealt with all the shit with my dad's club and took over, then my half-sister sued me for the estate because my dad had left everything to me.
00:42:48.000 That's when shit gets crafty.
00:42:50.000 I couldn't even believe, you know, going that.
00:42:52.000 And, like, we hadn't talked in years, and I, you know, really reached out, and I bought her a car and done things to try, like, oh, you know, maybe out of this tragedy we can build a relationship.
00:43:00.000 And, oh, man, it just went for the money.
00:43:02.000 She wanted more.
00:43:03.000 Wow.
00:43:04.000 People are, you know, people look at other people sometimes like a lottery, you know?
00:43:08.000 They don't think they're ever going to be able to make money on their own.
00:43:12.000 This is a certain amount of people, and they have this sort of, like...
00:43:16.000 It's almost like a victim's rights mentality that life has fucked them so hard that they're going to go after you because they can.
00:43:24.000 Is that what you felt?
00:43:25.000 Oh, I felt that in the club scene.
00:43:28.000 I just put a fucking thought into your head, man.
00:43:30.000 I'm just asking you a very specific thing.
00:43:33.000 Is that what you felt?
00:43:35.000 How sumptuous of me.
00:43:36.000 Sorry.
00:43:37.000 No, no.
00:43:38.000 Because when I had the club, there's a lot of people when I was running it that felt that, well, if you could fuck the customer, good for us.
00:43:44.000 We're making money.
00:43:45.000 And I'm just like, man...
00:43:46.000 Yeah, that's a bad karma situation, man.
00:43:49.000 I've met people that are real nice people.
00:43:51.000 Like, how about Bob, the owner of the Ice House?
00:43:53.000 Perfect example, right?
00:43:54.000 Super nice.
00:43:55.000 Super nice person.
00:43:57.000 Owns this club.
00:43:58.000 He's putting out good karma, you know?
00:44:00.000 Real nice to people.
00:44:01.000 Always very friendly.
00:44:03.000 Very generous guy.
00:44:04.000 Just a cool guy.
00:44:06.000 So, out of that comes good, you know?
00:44:10.000 You control your environment, you know?
00:44:12.000 Totally.
00:44:13.000 Well, that was when, you know, when my dad ran the club, it did well because my dad was the owner.
00:44:17.000 They'd be out there shaking everybody's hand.
00:44:19.000 He was like, he had...
00:44:20.000 So was it resentment?
00:44:22.000 No, there's...
00:44:22.000 When you took over?
00:44:23.000 Well, here's what it is.
00:44:25.000 There's a ton of cocaine being sold all throughout my place, right?
00:44:28.000 Oh, my God.
00:44:29.000 So when I took over, you know, eyes have been, you know, people are turning a blind eye for a while.
00:44:35.000 I... I look like the kingpin, right?
00:44:37.000 Everybody's working there, moving, and hey, I know people did what they have to do to do in the club, so I said that stops in the club, and then all my staff left.
00:44:46.000 Oh, shit.
00:44:47.000 You were at a cocaine operation.
00:44:48.000 You didn't even know it.
00:44:49.000 Yeah.
00:44:50.000 Wow.
00:44:51.000 You inherited a cocaine operation.
00:44:53.000 Oh, yeah.
00:44:54.000 I inherited a mess.
00:44:56.000 And you were 23!
00:44:57.000 23. And I was producing The Union, my first film.
00:45:01.000 That was my only chance to get out of the hole.
00:45:03.000 How old were you when I met you?
00:45:05.000 I was 24. Or 25. Well, for Todd to have that much faith in you guys, it showed.
00:45:14.000 Well, it showed once I met you, but it certainly showed with your final work where his head was at.
00:45:21.000 It's really good, man.
00:45:23.000 It's very entertaining.
00:45:24.000 It moves well.
00:45:26.000 I always said if people could see the story of what it took to put that together, that would be a more entertaining doc.
00:45:32.000 Nah, maybe just to you.
00:45:35.000 It's no way the making of your fucking movie could be as entertaining as the reason why pot is illegal.
00:45:41.000 No way, dude.
00:45:42.000 Get serious.
00:45:45.000 It might be to you.
00:45:46.000 Well, no.
00:45:47.000 Well, that's why we're...
00:45:47.000 It might be like a wedding video or something that's awesome to you, but nobody else wants to talk with it.
00:45:51.000 No, it's definitely not, man.
00:45:53.000 It's an honor to see the impact it's had.
00:45:56.000 I mean, my stepdad was the one that lent me the money to do it.
00:46:00.000 Right.
00:46:00.000 And for me, it was really cool.
00:46:02.000 One day, we were down at P.F. Chang's in Houston.
00:46:04.000 We were eating, and I had my Union shirt on, and the waiter comes over, and he's like, Man!
00:46:09.000 That movie's fucking awesome.
00:46:10.000 He's like, I Netflixed it.
00:46:12.000 I got 10 friends coming over.
00:46:13.000 I'm going to show it to all them.
00:46:14.000 And I was like, oh, cool, thanks.
00:46:16.000 Because I had my hat and glass and he was like, thanks.
00:46:18.000 And he's like, wait, you're the fucking guy?
00:46:20.000 He wasn't swearing, but he's like, you're the guy.
00:46:22.000 Oh, so he thought he was just saying it was cool.
00:46:24.000 Yeah, because he saw the logo right on my shirt.
00:46:27.000 And then, you know, I had that before and it's always flattering.
00:46:30.000 I can't believe anybody knows my work that well.
00:46:33.000 But then for my dad to see, right?
00:46:35.000 Because he took this huge gamble on us, right?
00:46:36.000 Gave us $200,000 cash.
00:46:38.000 Oh, my God.
00:46:42.000 Yeah, to go shoot it.
00:46:44.000 Whoo, that's some pressure, son.
00:46:46.000 Oh, and I had to go back two or three times because when I got screwed over at the club, I was anticipating to have money from that that I didn't get.
00:46:52.000 And now the film was the only thing I could use to pay back.
00:46:54.000 I'm like, well, if I'm ever going to pay him back, I have to get the film finished.
00:46:57.000 Otherwise, I'll never get out of the hole.
00:46:59.000 So I had to keep going back and back.
00:47:01.000 And only now, recently, that's why it's funny.
00:47:04.000 Some people ask me, how much have you made off the union?
00:47:06.000 I was like, I still owe my family some money.
00:47:08.000 Do you really?
00:47:09.000 Yeah.
00:47:10.000 Wow, so that movie still hasn't gotten to the black?
00:47:13.000 Well, the distributors made money, right?
00:47:16.000 But, you know, there's the marketing, shipping, and then at the end of the day, we have not seen...
00:47:23.000 I've been able to pay off my dad a majority of his stuff, thank God.
00:47:27.000 And there's still residual checks coming in.
00:47:29.000 They're pretty small, but it didn't do millions of dollars or these numbers that some people might think.
00:47:36.000 I think a lot of people might have stole your shit online, too.
00:47:38.000 Oh, if we got a quarter for every pirate bay and stuff, we'd be in the green.
00:47:43.000 Yeah, you know, it's funny because people go, yeah, well, you know, he's not losing any money because I wasn't going to download it.
00:47:49.000 I mean, I wasn't going to buy it anyway.
00:47:51.000 So I would have never bought it.
00:47:52.000 So it's not like he's losing any money, but it was okay.
00:47:55.000 Yeah.
00:47:57.000 It's all...
00:47:57.000 I know, it's...
00:47:58.000 It's tricky.
00:48:00.000 Well, it's tricky.
00:48:00.000 But then at the same time, you know, a lot of people did see it because of that.
00:48:04.000 The viral, like Facebook and social media is the main...
00:48:06.000 Because we had no money for marketing.
00:48:08.000 Yes.
00:48:08.000 That's what made it go...
00:48:09.000 100%.
00:48:10.000 Super viral, so...
00:48:12.000 For a first film that was, you know, to get the exposure is great and we weren't that, you know, as long as we could pay our families off, we're happy about it.
00:48:19.000 I've seen a bunch of memes from that documentary.
00:48:22.000 You know, like those internet memes where you quote somebody and there's a photo of them.
00:48:26.000 Oh, there's tons.
00:48:27.000 And there's tons of where they've just cut your clips, where it's just the Joe Rogan clips from the union.
00:48:31.000 And then it's like quotes, like pictures of you that'll say, like, let's nerf the world.
00:48:36.000 You caught me in my most indignant moment, too, because when we did that, it was when I really had just started smoking.
00:48:46.000 What year did we do this?
00:48:48.000 2005, we would have interviewed you.
00:48:50.000 So I had only been smoking for like five years.
00:48:53.000 So I was gearing up with my frustration with the whole situation.
00:49:00.000 It was really like you caught it at the exact right time where I was having these conversations with people where they would say there's something wrong with pot and this and that and I don't think it should be legal.
00:49:09.000 I'm like, what are you even yapping about?
00:49:12.000 What are you talking about?
00:49:13.000 You're saying that it should be illegal to have a beer?
00:49:15.000 Because do you know how that worked out?
00:49:17.000 Did you ever hear about that prohibition thing?
00:49:19.000 Yeah, it went fucking crazy.
00:49:20.000 An organized crime got a foothold in our society.
00:49:23.000 And I go, and guess what?
00:49:24.000 That's exactly what's going on right now.
00:49:25.000 It's the exact same thing.
00:49:26.000 It's just with marijuana, and it's with a bunch of other different substances that are somehow or another still getting sold everywhere all the time.
00:49:34.000 They've got to legalize everything.
00:49:36.000 It's crazy.
00:49:39.000 You can't, I mean, you gotta let people know exactly what everything does to you.
00:49:46.000 You gotta take a massive amount of taxes from the sale of anything, whether it's marijuana or whether it's, you know, I don't know if you should be able to sell the hard shit, you know, but I think you should be able to sell mushrooms.
00:49:58.000 I don't think you should be able to sell, like, dangerous narcotics that we know are devastating to actual life and to our society.
00:50:04.000 But if you can prove that something has a history of human use, like mushrooms, and you can prove that there's a massive amount of anecdotal evidence that people have, like, changed their lives.
00:50:15.000 John Hopkins University had this long-term study.
00:50:17.000 People did one mushroom trip, and 20 years later, they're fucking still, like, they're a better person because of the experience.
00:50:24.000 It's like that kind of shit.
00:50:25.000 You hear those kind of stories over and over and over and over again.
00:50:28.000 No one's dying.
00:50:30.000 In this instance, the argument's ridiculous.
00:50:35.000 It's ridiculous that you would try to make this obviously massively beneficial thing illegal.
00:50:40.000 There's gotta be something going on.
00:50:42.000 You gotta see what we have in store for the next one.
00:50:44.000 Brett wants to take it to a whole new level that's talking about some of the think tanks of why we get into this.
00:50:49.000 Are we least effective when caught up in group mentality?
00:50:52.000 Even when we were in Parliament Hill, we were talking to some of the guys there, and Brett was asking some questions, key questions.
00:50:58.000 He said they had to put a bill through the day before, and it was a thousand pages.
00:51:02.000 And he was like, how often is it that sometimes things just get missed, and they get passed?
00:51:06.000 And the guy was like, more often than you'd think.
00:51:09.000 Just because people don't want to read.
00:51:11.000 It's at the end of the week, and they're like, oh, there's a 1,000-page bill that you want to read.
00:51:15.000 And you go through it, and then that's the stuff where the schmear campaigns come up years later.
00:51:19.000 And they're like, he signed this thing 10 years ago.
00:51:21.000 And he was working for whether it's the conservatives.
00:51:24.000 And they were like, okay, we're all signing.
00:51:25.000 And he's going to go home, and after all the work he's done, 16-hour day at the Hill, go home and read 1,000-page bill.
00:51:32.000 Boringest language ever, too, right?
00:51:34.000 Like, we're not talking anything.
00:51:36.000 Oh, God.
00:51:36.000 And then try to make sure that you understand every line before you put your signature on it.
00:51:40.000 Is it really a thousand pages?
00:51:41.000 That was the one that had just been passed, yeah.
00:51:44.000 And how many days did this guy have to work on that?
00:51:46.000 Like, they'd have a decision at the end of the week, he was saying.
00:51:49.000 And then they have a four-hour vote.
00:51:52.000 It had been worked on for a long time, but by the time it got to that stage, then it's like they...
00:51:56.000 So do they have to read the whole 1,000 pages?
00:51:58.000 Well, that's what I said a lot of times.
00:52:00.000 It depends on who's dealing with it.
00:52:02.000 Who would ever expect someone to be able to do that?
00:52:05.000 I was looking at just the workload they have.
00:52:07.000 Oh, my God.
00:52:08.000 We were leaving at 6, and they were going into a four-hour vote.
00:52:12.000 I was just like, oh, my God.
00:52:14.000 Holy shit.
00:52:15.000 And they almost like we went to look through...
00:52:17.000 And the guy's like, oh, if you come through here, you have to stay through the whole thing.
00:52:21.000 So if you come past this point, then you cannot leave because it's in session.
00:52:24.000 I was like, well, I'm not going near there.
00:52:25.000 Four hours.
00:52:26.000 Jesus Christ.
00:52:27.000 I'll die.
00:52:27.000 That'll be the...
00:52:28.000 Wow.
00:52:30.000 Did you see that recent video of the woman from the DEA fielding questions?
00:52:37.000 Yes, yes.
00:52:38.000 I posted it on the union page.
00:52:39.000 The gentleman from Colorado who was asking...
00:52:44.000 If marijuana was less dangerous than heroin.
00:52:48.000 All drugs are bad.
00:52:49.000 And she wouldn't respond.
00:52:51.000 She was just like, well, we feel that all illegal drugs are bad.
00:52:54.000 Have you seen it, Brian?
00:52:56.000 Oh my god, pull it up.
00:52:57.000 Because it's preposterous.
00:52:59.000 What would you Google?
00:53:00.000 What would be the word?
00:53:01.000 I'd just put DEA. DEA agent stumped marijuana.
00:53:10.000 It was a lady with particularly sad eyes.
00:53:15.000 She really did.
00:53:16.000 She had particularly sad eyes.
00:53:18.000 I don't think there's any joy in that job.
00:53:22.000 And when you know that all you're doing is trying to keep people from smoking pot because that's what they're telling you to do.
00:53:28.000 There's no joy in that, man.
00:53:29.000 That lady had no joy in her art.
00:53:31.000 Well, look at even Leap.
00:53:32.000 Leap has members of the DEA. She's just doing her job.
00:53:35.000 That's it.
00:53:36.000 Yeah, that's her.
00:53:37.000 Pull that up.
00:53:37.000 I just checked by the dopey eyes, hilariously enough.
00:53:40.000 What is this gentleman's name?
00:53:41.000 Because he's a bad motherfucker.
00:53:42.000 What is his name?
00:53:44.000 He's from Colorado.
00:53:46.000 Let's give him props.
00:53:47.000 I believe all illegal drugs are bad.
00:53:50.000 Is methamphetamine worse for somebody's health than marijuana?
00:53:56.000 I don't think any illegal drug is good.
00:53:58.000 Is heroin worse for someone's health than marijuana?
00:54:05.000 Look at her eyes.
00:54:07.000 You should know this is the Chief Administrator for the Drug Enforcement Agency.
00:54:13.000 I'm asking you a very straightforward question.
00:54:14.000 Is heroin worse for someone's health than marijuana?
00:54:17.000 All illegal drugs are bad.
00:54:21.000 Does this mean you don't know?
00:54:23.000 Heroin causes an addiction that causes many problems and is very hard to kick.
00:54:32.000 So does that mean that the health impact of heroin is worse than marijuana?
00:54:36.000 Is that what you're telling me?
00:54:37.000 I think you're asking a subjective question.
00:54:40.000 No, it's subjective.
00:54:41.000 Just looking at the science, this is your area of expertise.
00:54:46.000 I'm just asking you as an expert in the subject area, is heroin worse for someone's health than marijuana?
00:54:54.000 I'm answering as a police officer and as a DEA agent that these drugs are illegal because they are dangerous, because they are addictive, because they do hurt a person's health.
00:55:06.000 So heroin is more addictive than marijuana?
00:55:08.000 Is heroin more addictive than marijuana in your experience?
00:55:11.000 Generally, the properties of heroin, yes, it's more addictive.
00:55:15.000 Is methamphetamine more addictive than marijuana?
00:55:19.000 Well, both are addictive.
00:55:23.000 Is methamphetamine more highly addictive than marijuana?
00:55:28.000 I think some people become addicted to marijuana and some people become addicted to methamphetamine.
00:55:35.000 You mentioned that your top priority, I believe you indicated to us, is abuse of prescription drugs.
00:55:40.000 Is one of the main classifications of prescription drugs painkillers that you're concerned about?
00:55:45.000 That's correct.
00:55:47.000 And are those painkillers addictive?
00:55:49.000 Yes, they are.
00:55:50.000 Very addictive.
00:55:51.000 Are those painkillers more addictive than marijuana?
00:55:56.000 All illegal drugs in Schedule 1 are addictive.
00:56:04.000 Oh my God.
00:56:06.000 It's amazing that that person is in charge of anything that has anything to do with the legality of marijuana.
00:56:14.000 Well, see, that's what we want to show in the culture high, right?
00:56:16.000 There seems to be this global cultural shift in the way people are looking at cannabis laws.
00:56:21.000 And the people that are coming out now are more intellectuals and stuff than ever.
00:56:24.000 You're seeing some big names, like several members of the DEA that are now part of LEAP that are talking out against it big time.
00:56:31.000 Well, it's a crime.
00:56:34.000 It's a criminal thing, what they're doing.
00:56:36.000 What they're doing is somehow or another they're being forced into a situation where they're ignoring the science and ignoring the health benefits and ignoring the medicinal benefits and just the fact that people enjoy it.
00:56:51.000 And the fact that virtually no one has ever died from it, ever.
00:56:55.000 Really, realistically, no one has ever died from it.
00:56:58.000 Just that...
00:56:59.000 Anybody keeping you from that?
00:57:02.000 Anybody keeping you from that?
00:57:03.000 That's not your friend.
00:57:04.000 That's not your friend.
00:57:05.000 That's craziness.
00:57:06.000 It's craziness that they think they can keep you from an experience.
00:57:09.000 Because that's really, at the end of the day, what it really is.
00:57:11.000 You're still responsible for your actions.
00:57:13.000 You shouldn't be driving when you're baked out of your fucking head and forget which way to turn in the middle of an intersection and cause a fucking car.
00:57:19.000 Man, you shouldn't even have too much NyQuil.
00:57:21.000 Exactly.
00:57:22.000 Exactly.
00:57:22.000 But you should be responsible for your actions.
00:57:25.000 That is what...
00:57:26.000 Being a human being should be all about.
00:57:28.000 Carry your own weight.
00:57:29.000 Take responsibility for the shit that you fuck up.
00:57:33.000 If you fuck up something because you're high, like you go and smash a window, it's not the high.
00:57:39.000 A lot of people could have been high and they walked right by that window and didn't want to break it at all.
00:57:43.000 You are an asshole!
00:57:44.000 And you should have to pay for that fucking window!
00:57:47.000 But it has nothing to do with weed.
00:57:48.000 Joe, come run a nightclub and you want to see a ticking time bomb.
00:57:51.000 Oh my god, I couldn't imagine.
00:57:52.000 There's people on booze where I've had this conversation a million times when I used to work the door and you have to escort them out because they're too drunk, right?
00:58:00.000 Of course.
00:58:00.000 And then they're like, what?
00:58:01.000 What do you mean?
00:58:02.000 This is a bar.
00:58:03.000 And I'm like, yeah, where you're allowed to drink but you can't get wasted, right?
00:58:07.000 But then this goes around in a circle and they'll be like, fine, fine.
00:58:10.000 They get out the door and then they forget and they come like, so why did I get kicked out, man?
00:58:14.000 Because you're too drunk.
00:58:15.000 Oh my god.
00:58:16.000 Dude, it's a bore.
00:58:17.000 I'm like, I just went through this wreck.
00:58:19.000 I honestly can't understand.
00:58:20.000 I'm like, are you that?
00:58:22.000 Is it really just goes and it goes blank and then goes blank and keeps coming?
00:58:25.000 And then they start getting, as you keep being nice, and you're like, listen, you're done for tonight.
00:58:29.000 Come back tomorrow.
00:58:30.000 I'll even pay your cover tomorrow if you come back.
00:58:33.000 But tonight, you're done.
00:58:34.000 That's very generous of you.
00:58:35.000 No, and that was always the offer.
00:58:37.000 Be like, I hope you get a cab, and I'll waive your cover if you come back tomorrow, but tonight you're done.
00:58:40.000 And then they take your kindness reading, and they start being like, yeah, well then you're fucking, and the booze start, like, you see them morph into this person, and I bet when he was sober, he would have just been a nice guy, but in there all of a sudden, it's like, he gets too drunk, he wants to be an ass, you start off as polite as you can, they'll be polite, and then their emotions shift, and The dumbest thing to do, too, is when you're out and you're drunk and you be a douchebag to a bouncer.
00:59:07.000 It's such a bad move.
00:59:09.000 It's such a bad move.
00:59:11.000 I've worked the door and I never got that logic where someone's like...
00:59:14.000 Do you know what you make 10 bucks an hour?
00:59:17.000 You're trying to get the gold star?
00:59:18.000 Some people are just assholes.
00:59:22.000 I have a...
00:59:24.000 I mean, it sounds ridiculous, but I have great respect for cops and great respect for people who are working at security in a club or a nightclub or something like that.
00:59:32.000 That's a difficult position.
00:59:33.000 It's a dangerous position.
00:59:35.000 Thank you very much.
00:59:36.000 That's how I feel about it.
00:59:37.000 So, if ever I'm in a situation, if I ever was, I never are, but if I was, I would be very polite.
00:59:44.000 Like, no, sir.
00:59:45.000 No craziness.
00:59:47.000 No wanting to fight the cop.
00:59:48.000 No.
00:59:48.000 You know, like, Jesus fucking Christ!
00:59:51.000 Those people are assholes!
00:59:53.000 You know, you can't blame alcohol for those people.
00:59:55.000 I don't know what it is.
00:59:56.000 I don't know what causes it.
00:59:58.000 But you can't blame alcohol when a guy tries to punch a cop.
01:00:00.000 You know, those guys, like...
01:00:02.000 Some people, it's just a...
01:00:03.000 Like, that's the thing you're serving.
01:00:05.000 You see, in Kelowna, there's a lot and a lot of growers.
01:00:08.000 That's how I knew so much about the details of the union, right?
01:00:10.000 How it all broke down.
01:00:11.000 I looked at getting into it when my dad first died and he passed away.
01:00:14.000 Like, It's to supplement me to go to film school, right?
01:00:17.000 I looked at being the landowner that would buy the house, have people that would grow for me.
01:00:22.000 I'd come back every three months, split the cash 50-50.
01:00:25.000 How dangerous is that?
01:00:27.000 Dangerous, right?
01:00:28.000 Canada's much more lenient than it is in the US, for sure.
01:00:32.000 But I didn't do it, and that was originally the beginning of the union.
01:00:36.000 We cut my story out because we thought, at the end of the day, the union's so much bigger than my story.
01:00:40.000 It's not, who cares?
01:00:41.000 So we cut it out, but That's what got us into that.
01:00:45.000 And originally when we were going to do the union, we were just going to do an expose of the BC industry and how it's so evolved and how there's a mortgage broker that'll help you because you got bad credit and they'll send you to this banker to help put it through and you've got a realtor.
01:00:59.000 They all know.
01:01:00.000 Even one of my friends worked at a car dealership.
01:01:03.000 So it's under their discretion whether or not things get flagged?
01:01:06.000 Is that how that works?
01:01:07.000 Well, at the banks...
01:01:08.000 Why am I asking this?
01:01:09.000 Am I going into organized crime?
01:01:11.000 Yeah, what's the deal?
01:01:12.000 What the fuck am I so nosy for?
01:01:14.000 No, it's interesting.
01:01:15.000 It's one of some people's favorite part of the union, right?
01:01:18.000 But that was where I felt guilty, is that a lot of these guys would come in.
01:01:22.000 In the wintertime, Kelowna's dead.
01:01:23.000 It's a summer town.
01:01:25.000 And they would come in, and they got the most disposable income because they got some cash that they can't always put into things.
01:01:29.000 So then they come in and spend two or three grand, and that's awesome for us, right?
01:01:33.000 Right.
01:01:33.000 It's good for the economy.
01:01:34.000 Yeah, but I'm like, okay, who's the bad guy here?
01:01:36.000 A lot of people say he's bad.
01:01:38.000 He's a drug dealer.
01:01:39.000 He's growing.
01:01:40.000 But then I know what he does, and I'm gladly taking his money to serve another drug, right?
01:01:45.000 So then I was like, how am I any better, right?
01:01:49.000 He's not a drug dealer.
01:01:50.000 He's selling weed, all right?
01:01:52.000 That is a completely different connection than someone who will sell you something that's fucked up.
01:01:56.000 True.
01:01:57.000 Because there are dudes who are real drug dealers who are casual about it, get people hooked.
01:02:03.000 There's people that are real clever about it.
01:02:05.000 I've known the guys that have sold coke and stuff.
01:02:07.000 I owned a club through that that saw that.
01:02:10.000 The problem is that while it's still the way it is, a lot of them are controlled or they get ripped off by gangs and stuff.
01:02:17.000 So dangerous.
01:02:18.000 That's where it's...
01:02:19.000 Like now in Canada, you can get a federal license.
01:02:22.000 That's the way a lot of guys are going.
01:02:23.000 If they don't have a criminal record, they can get a federal license.
01:02:25.000 So there's no...
01:02:26.000 Like here, you have a state license and the feds come in.
01:02:28.000 You get a federal license and you can grow.
01:02:30.000 What?
01:02:31.000 For medicinal reasons, yeah.
01:02:32.000 Okay, but don't you have a dispute in certain parts of Canada where they're far more conservative?
01:02:37.000 They don't feel the same way about marijuana?
01:02:38.000 Yeah, they do.
01:02:39.000 But that is a federal license that they're looking now to try to shut down.
01:02:43.000 But it's to grow because there's people...
01:02:45.000 Who's looking to try to shut it down?
01:02:46.000 Well, the government's looking to change it.
01:02:48.000 They're looking to change it back to make it not available?
01:02:51.000 I'm not sure of all of it.
01:02:52.000 We have to dive into that once we get into the research.
01:02:54.000 But they're trying to pull it back.
01:02:56.000 But it was interesting.
01:02:57.000 I just went into a huge grow-up just outside of my town that was a total legal one.
01:03:01.000 And it had like 19 permits for...
01:03:05.000 They could do the clones.
01:03:06.000 They could store for others.
01:03:07.000 They could do...
01:03:08.000 Huge, huge operation.
01:03:09.000 I'll show you pictures on my phone.
01:03:11.000 I think they said they had 150 lights.
01:03:16.000 High times they were doing an article because they were getting 2.2 pounds of light.
01:03:21.000 So they're getting like 150 pounds, 170 pounds.
01:03:25.000 But completely legal.
01:03:27.000 They had cameras.
01:03:29.000 When I was there, the cops were coming through it with them and this thing was so clean.
01:03:33.000 Joe, Brian, they had opera music playing in the thing because it enhances their growth cycle.
01:03:40.000 Oh my god, I want to move to Canada.
01:03:42.000 I want to move to Canada.
01:03:43.000 So they wanted me to come because I was a uni guy.
01:03:45.000 They're like, ah, yeah, you can film anything you want in here.
01:03:47.000 And it was beautiful.
01:03:49.000 I'll show you guys some pictures I got on my phone.
01:03:51.000 It's too fucking stupid to let that happen.
01:03:53.000 But that would be of great benefit to people.
01:03:56.000 It would provide jobs.
01:03:57.000 It would change the economy.
01:03:59.000 And once marijuana became legal, then hemp would become legal.
01:04:02.000 Well, hemp's legal in Canada too.
01:04:04.000 Which I know.
01:04:05.000 We're selling it on it.
01:04:06.000 We're going to start selling this hemp protein powder.
01:04:08.000 It's fucking awesome, man.
01:04:10.000 There's a dark chocolate.
01:04:12.000 I forget the company's name.
01:04:14.000 But I've been drinking this stuff really steady for like a couple months now.
01:04:19.000 Hemp protein doesn't give me terrible gas.
01:04:22.000 It doesn't fuck with me.
01:04:24.000 It feels like really healthy.
01:04:25.000 It's like a really easily digestible plant protein for me.
01:04:29.000 I really love it, man.
01:04:30.000 I've really been getting into it.
01:04:31.000 But we can't get any fucking hemp hearts.
01:04:33.000 It's really hard.
01:04:34.000 You can only get 50 pounds a day.
01:04:35.000 That's the most you can order.
01:04:37.000 The hemp part is just so bizarre to me because that makes just zero sense.
01:04:41.000 Like we explained in the movie, you can use it, manufacture it, ship it, everything, but grow it here in the U.S. It's so stupid because what people don't even understand is hemp is not psychoactive.
01:04:54.000 You can't even get high from it.
01:04:55.000 It's like a cousin plant to the psychoactive version of marijuana.
01:04:59.000 Although, you could use marijuana as well.
01:05:02.000 You could use the stems and the sticks.
01:05:04.000 It's the same shit as hemp.
01:05:06.000 It's just that the flowers of the marijuana plants are the ones that get you high.
01:05:10.000 So, it's not whether or not people could, I mean, I guess someone could pretend, like, oh, this is just a non-psychoactive hemp.
01:05:18.000 I have to, flowers, I don't see any flowers.
01:05:21.000 What did you say?
01:05:22.000 Oh, what happened here?
01:05:23.000 This is a mistake.
01:05:25.000 Oh, how did this live marijuana tree, oh, well, let me pull this out.
01:05:30.000 This is the devil.
01:05:31.000 But the rest of them are just for making underwear and paper and oil.
01:05:35.000 Well, I think the thing is, once it gets impregnated, then you can't keep just the one or two like that.
01:05:42.000 I don't know enough about the botany of how it grows.
01:05:46.000 I don't know that shit.
01:05:47.000 But I think a lot of people think, too, is they don't realize, like, have you seen some of the products it's being used for?
01:05:51.000 Like in the new Bugattis and stuff like that, the interiors being done with that?
01:05:54.000 Well, did you see that Lotus thing?
01:05:56.000 They made out of hemp?
01:05:57.000 Yeah.
01:05:57.000 They made this badass lotus and it's like part of it was like just the actual fiber, not even colored, the actual fiber of hemp.
01:06:06.000 Brian, see if you could pull up a picture of that because it really is dope.
01:06:10.000 Like lotus hemp car.
01:06:12.000 Did you know that Henry Ford's, is that your movie?
01:06:14.000 Is that your movie?
01:06:15.000 No, that's not mine, but there's a little clip like that.
01:06:17.000 I know about Henry Ford's stuff.
01:06:19.000 I think it was in the No, we do have an opening bit that talks big about hemp and not Henry Ford.
01:06:24.000 His video is just that little clip that's up there on its own.
01:06:26.000 For folks who don't know, Henry Ford's first car was made out of hemp.
01:06:30.000 Is this it?
01:06:31.000 Like he made hemp body panels.
01:06:33.000 You see that Lotus for folks who are following us on Ustream.
01:06:37.000 If you're not, just Google hemp Lotus.
01:06:40.000 There's a couple other pictures of this thing that maybe you can see a little clearer, Brian.
01:06:44.000 But what it is, is they made a car instead of like, like Corvettes are made out of fiberglass.
01:06:49.000 You know, and like really expensive cars.
01:06:52.000 A lot of them are made out of carbon fiber.
01:06:53.000 Well, this car is made out of hemp and it's stronger than fiberglass.
01:06:58.000 It's a natural product.
01:07:01.000 It's lighter too.
01:07:01.000 It's lighter.
01:07:02.000 There's a car in Canada built called the Crestle that's an electric car that's all the interior and the majority of the body That whole brown strip down the front, that's the actual hemp color.
01:07:13.000 That's the actual fiber.
01:07:14.000 It's so badass, man.
01:07:16.000 And it's really fucking durable.
01:07:18.000 It's a crazy plant.
01:07:21.000 You could get a stalk, and it's really thick, And it's light as fuck.
01:07:27.000 Like, you pick it up, it feels like nothing.
01:07:28.000 But it's so dense.
01:07:30.000 Like, it's really weird.
01:07:31.000 If you've never seen a hemp stalk before, it really does feel like, okay, maybe this is an alien plant.
01:07:38.000 This is not like any plant I've ever come in contact with before.
01:07:41.000 If you pick up an oak log, you know the thickness and the hardwood that feels like?
01:07:45.000 It's heavy as shit.
01:07:46.000 Right?
01:07:47.000 Well, the hemp stalks feel like the hardness of an oak log, but it's like really light.
01:07:54.000 It's weird.
01:07:55.000 It's like, where the fuck did this thing come from?
01:07:57.000 It's crazy.
01:07:58.000 I mean, I knew nothing about pot and hemp when I started in the union.
01:08:02.000 I only wanted to do...
01:08:04.000 That's hilarious.
01:08:04.000 I just wanted to do, like I said, the expose, the BC industry.
01:08:07.000 And then when we discovered all these things, that's why some people that really knew everything in there was like, well, like a lot of the activists, like I knew everything in the union.
01:08:14.000 It was like, yeah, but me and like 99% of other people don't.
01:08:19.000 There's a lot of people that, you know, they think that everybody should catch up.
01:08:23.000 Yeah.
01:08:23.000 I knew all that stuff.
01:08:25.000 Well, and here's the kudos that I even...
01:08:27.000 I didn't really...
01:08:28.000 It really clicked with me when we were at Parliament Hill is that how entertained they were, right?
01:08:33.000 And there was four of them that weren't going to stay.
01:08:35.000 They were going to be there for 15 minutes and they were going to leave.
01:08:37.000 And they stayed throughout the whole film.
01:08:39.000 And at the end, they were saying, like, I didn't know it would be that funny and I didn't know it would be...
01:08:42.000 And Brett was like, well, that's the key to getting you to absorb information.
01:08:47.000 It still has to be...
01:08:48.000 It's still a movie.
01:08:49.000 It has to be entertaining.
01:08:50.000 If it was just a blurb and it was like, here we are...
01:08:53.000 Sometimes people forget that most people don't know that information.
01:08:56.000 Most people don't.
01:08:57.000 And you cannot tell the story without giving that information.
01:09:01.000 If you want things to be reached by a giant gang of people, you cannot assume that they already have this information.
01:09:07.000 It's too potent.
01:09:08.000 It's too important.
01:09:09.000 It's too significant in the story.
01:09:11.000 Well, that's why we're diving into the second one.
01:09:13.000 We're going all out.
01:09:14.000 And what is the second one going to get involved with?
01:09:16.000 The culture high, we're looking much more global this time.
01:09:19.000 Like I said, looking at the cultural shift that's starting to happen with regards to the way people look at cannabis.
01:09:24.000 What do you accredit?
01:09:25.000 Do you think the internet is responsible for that?
01:09:27.000 Is that what you...
01:09:27.000 Yes.
01:09:28.000 The distribution of the truth about...
01:09:30.000 Marijuana?
01:09:31.000 That's exactly.
01:09:32.000 That's actually a part in it.
01:09:33.000 We want to interview Sean Parker and some of those people to talk about how the internet's even the playing field.
01:09:40.000 Remember in the union, we have Ronald Reagan saying, and I'm surprised these scientists haven't brought up this new information that says that marijuana could be the most dangerous drug that is in use in our society today.
01:09:49.000 When he said that in the 80s, unless you're going to go call a medical facility and pull their old records, you're like, hey, man, that's a president.
01:09:56.000 He must know.
01:09:57.000 He has a team that's giving him that information.
01:09:59.000 Yeah.
01:09:59.000 And he's got it, right?
01:10:01.000 But now, you can go on Google and you can look at...
01:10:04.000 And of course, you get the good with the bad.
01:10:05.000 There's a lot of fake and haters, people going back and forth and saying this.
01:10:08.000 But you can pick or choose through 10 or more articles.
01:10:12.000 And that's what we did in the union.
01:10:13.000 We put all the links and stuff up there.
01:10:15.000 So if you didn't believe what we said, and like, hey, we're filmmakers.
01:10:18.000 There's one or two little mistakes in there that we made.
01:10:20.000 Absolutely.
01:10:21.000 But if it got you to research it and start doing it, that's a great movie.
01:10:25.000 Because you're thinking about it after you've watched it.
01:10:27.000 What were the factual mistakes that you missed?
01:10:29.000 Oh, they're very, very slight.
01:10:31.000 It was like with the original Declaration of Independence, it was actually the first two drafts, not the one that's in the museum.
01:10:37.000 The one that's in the museum is made with Hyde, but the first two drafts were written on hemp.
01:10:42.000 So a lot of us clever were.
01:10:45.000 And then same with the 30 days of marijuana being in your system.
01:10:48.000 Lester Grinspoon, the first Ivy League doctor to come out and talk about the real medical findings that he discovered.
01:10:55.000 He said not always 30 days.
01:10:57.000 If you smoke all the time and it's in your fat cells, but it could be if you just smoke once in the first time, there's a good chance in two weeks it wouldn't be in your system.
01:11:05.000 So when you hear about a guy like Nick Diaz getting popped and he's got the non-psychoactive metabolites, what does that mean?
01:11:14.000 That means he's barely got any weed in his system, right?
01:11:17.000 Yeah.
01:11:18.000 Barely, barely, barely.
01:11:20.000 Man, I think that if they're going to...
01:11:24.000 I mean, those guys go through so much pain, and you've seen a lot of tragedy with the painkillers now.
01:11:30.000 A friend of mine, Derek Bugard, who was an NHL enforcer for the New York Rangers, had an accidental mix.
01:11:39.000 You'd wish that there would be that alternative for pain.
01:11:42.000 So maybe Nick Diaz, his knuckles are sore.
01:11:43.000 He hits people, he hits dudes a lot of times in a fight, like more than anybody else.
01:11:47.000 They just don't stop, right?
01:11:49.000 So, you know, maybe he's got arthritis in his hands or from training.
01:11:53.000 If that's what he wanted to use...
01:11:55.000 How about he uses it for whatever the fuck reason he wants to use it?
01:11:58.000 But I'm saying even if that's...
01:11:59.000 But that's my take on it now at this point.
01:12:01.000 It's like, of course he should be able to use it for anxiety.
01:12:04.000 Of course he should be able to use it for insomnia.
01:12:06.000 Of course he should be able to use it, but really he should be able to use it for whatever the fuck he wants to use it for.
01:12:11.000 And this idea that there's any reason why it should be illegal is just crazy talk.
01:12:17.000 It's crazy talk.
01:12:18.000 It makes you a nicer person.
01:12:20.000 It does.
01:12:21.000 It might make some people a little dopier, but guess what?
01:12:24.000 It probably means they need to get their shit together.
01:12:25.000 They're probably thinking a bunch of dumb, stupid shit when they're sober.
01:12:28.000 When they're high, there's not much to spin around in there.
01:12:31.000 Maybe it's good for them to feel stupid.
01:12:33.000 Well, think about, for pain, I'm sure you know fighters, Joe, that have taken, like, the hard painkillers, and then a lot of times they don't even realize.
01:12:39.000 I know guys that have fucked up their whole careers because of that stuff.
01:12:41.000 And they don't even know how addictive it is, right?
01:12:43.000 The doctor says, take this for pain.
01:12:44.000 They get hooked to it.
01:12:45.000 So, I mean, just that, when I've seen in athletes, like, they have to go through a lot of pain in these contact sports.
01:12:51.000 A dude who was a really, like, completely clean guy.
01:12:57.000 He didn't smoke cigarettes.
01:12:59.000 He rarely ever drank.
01:13:01.000 He was really healthy and he was a professional pool player.
01:13:04.000 He hurt his back and he got hooked on pain pills and became a complete, total mess and then died.
01:13:12.000 I mean, they literally took this dude's life.
01:13:15.000 This dude got swamped up in that world of pills.
01:13:19.000 He's younger than me and now he's gone.
01:13:21.000 And I knew him.
01:13:22.000 I knew him when he was totally healthy and I knew him when he was gone.
01:13:25.000 And that's crazy.
01:13:26.000 It's crazy.
01:13:27.000 It's a sad thing.
01:13:28.000 He was a proud guy.
01:13:30.000 And he would fall asleep in a plate of mashed potatoes.
01:13:33.000 Like that kind of shit.
01:13:34.000 And that's legal.
01:13:35.000 Man, you should see how many people I saw like that in the bar, Joe.
01:13:37.000 Of course.
01:13:37.000 You'd see it all the time.
01:13:38.000 You'd see these beautiful girls come in.
01:13:40.000 And then like four years later, they're like, hey.
01:13:43.000 And a lot of the dancers, and you're like, hey, oh my god.
01:13:46.000 You look like you've died and come back to life already.
01:13:49.000 It's so sad.
01:13:50.000 Those kind of drugs are so terrible.
01:13:52.000 They're so sad in your body.
01:13:53.000 It's a shitty...
01:13:55.000 I wouldn't recommend owning a nightclub if someone said to me, like, hey, I don't ever want to be in that business again.
01:14:02.000 Yeah, that business is rough, man.
01:14:04.000 I'd rather be a challenging filmmaker that's working three jobs like I am than go back to that.
01:14:11.000 Yeah, well, you're dealing with groups of drunks on a regular basis.
01:14:15.000 It's like...
01:14:16.000 And then seeing the sad stories like that or seeing times when a guy just got out of line and bumped into the wrong person and got smashed.
01:14:23.000 Yeah, that sucks too.
01:14:24.000 I watched a guy get hit in the face with a bottle once.
01:14:27.000 I never expected this to happen the way it happened.
01:14:30.000 The way the guy hit the guy in the face, it was like there's no way he just did that for that reason.
01:14:34.000 It was like nothing.
01:14:36.000 And this guy smashed him in the face, cut his face.
01:14:38.000 And I remember thinking that.
01:14:40.000 Always be aware that it's possible that someone out there is so fucking crazy that they would do that for no reason like that.
01:14:45.000 Oh, that's why when I work the door, I never let someone get to the odd side of me or anything like that, right?
01:14:51.000 And a lot of the times, if someone's aggressive and their hands clench, you don't see it.
01:14:55.000 I mean, we would...
01:14:55.000 I always tell my guys, like, listen, you're not supposed to strike and hit guys, but if you're really threatened, right, and some guy, you're going to corner, like, you do what you got to do to look after yourself, right?
01:15:04.000 Right.
01:15:04.000 We'll try to get there as fast as we can, but I mean, we had a doorman stabbed.
01:15:07.000 Oh, shit.
01:15:08.000 He got stabbed three times, and probably the only time in your life you like to hear this, they told him, they're like, it's a good thing you're overweight, because if you would have been an inch thick or inch thinner, it would have pierced major...
01:15:18.000 Because the guy, they threw these guys out, the guys went out to the car, came back, and then they went at the doorman, and one of our doorman knocked the first one out.
01:15:27.000 Then he went with the other one, he was tussling with him, and he said he'd put him down, and then when he put him down, he saw the blade hit the ground and blood all over it, and then he thought he was getting punched in the side, and then he looked.
01:15:37.000 And he was like, holy, it was just porn hunting.
01:15:39.000 And I remember him telling this story that really scared me as he sat down and he went to our other doorman just being like, if I pass out, please make sure I get to the hospital.
01:15:46.000 Because you don't know what's going to happen if your body's going to shut down or you might just faint out.
01:15:52.000 So it's shitty.
01:15:54.000 I'd never want another nightclub.
01:15:56.000 Fuck that.
01:15:58.000 There's just too many douchebags that can't keep it together.
01:16:00.000 There's too many people out there.
01:16:02.000 Roadhouse.
01:16:03.000 Yeah, Roadhouse.
01:16:05.000 Pain don't hurt.
01:16:06.000 Really, at the heart of it, at the bottom of it all, is really people doing a shitty job of raising people.
01:16:11.000 People doing a shitty job of having a community and doing a shitty job of raising people.
01:16:15.000 And what do you make?
01:16:16.000 You make shit kids.
01:16:17.000 Those shit kids grow up to be gigantic fucking problems.
01:16:20.000 And if you run a nightclub, congratulations, you're the new babysitter.
01:16:23.000 You're the new babysitter for the drunken douchebags.
01:16:26.000 Oh, and then anything that they do, like, they're not held responsible.
01:16:29.000 Like, if they...
01:16:30.000 That's where, going back to the responsibility thing, you're saying people should just be held to their actions for what they do.
01:16:34.000 Well, you can get them drunk, and you can get sued if they crash their car.
01:16:37.000 Not just that.
01:16:38.000 They go out and fight or hurt someone, or they attack our bouncers, and then they get hurt on the way out.
01:16:44.000 And, yes, of course, there's other sides of that where sometimes the doormen are excessive.
01:16:47.000 But there's times where a guy's so drunk that, like, you carry him out, you go to let him go, and he stumbles and smashes his face on the concrete and caves his cheekbone in, right?
01:16:55.000 Like...
01:16:55.000 I worked as a security guard at Great Woods Center for the Performing Arts.
01:17:01.000 It's like in Mansfield or something, Massachusetts.
01:17:03.000 I think that's where it's at.
01:17:04.000 And it's this outside performance area.
01:17:08.000 So part of it is inside and part of it is covered.
01:17:13.000 But then there's a back area that's open that's like a lawn area.
01:17:17.000 And I was security there.
01:17:18.000 And we did it for a whole summer.
01:17:20.000 And I tell you, man...
01:17:21.000 After a while, you really develop this us versus them mentality.
01:17:27.000 And it's really stupid, but I was 19. I was an idiot.
01:17:29.000 I shouldn't have been in that sort of a job in the first place.
01:17:31.000 And the guy that I was working for was crazy aggressive.
01:17:35.000 I mean, oh my God.
01:17:37.000 I saw him on the first day I worked there tackle a guy and beat him with a walkie-talkie.
01:17:41.000 Because the guy stole their golf cart.
01:17:43.000 They had a golf cart they would drive around the Great Woods with.
01:17:46.000 So these guys tackled him and they beat the shit out of this guy with a walkie-talkie.
01:17:50.000 The dude was a classic.
01:17:52.000 His name was Alley Cat.
01:17:53.000 And he wanted to open up this bar.
01:17:55.000 He had this dream.
01:17:56.000 He was the head security guy with a dream.
01:17:59.000 And his dream was to open up this bar.
01:18:01.000 Alley Cat's libations and victuals.
01:18:04.000 That was the title?
01:18:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:18:05.000 That's tough marketing.
01:18:07.000 Victuals is like a cool name for food.
01:18:10.000 And Libations is like a cool old name for liquors and drink.
01:18:15.000 And so that was his dream.
01:18:17.000 And he was a crazy motherfucker.
01:18:18.000 And he ran the security thing.
01:18:20.000 And it was me and a friend of mine who was...
01:18:23.000 We were...
01:18:24.000 On the same competition team, the same Taekwondo competition team.
01:18:28.000 He got a job there and they said, do you have any of the other guys that are martial arts guys that want a job?
01:18:34.000 And so they essentially hired all the top martial arts guys from this J. Kim Taekwondo Institute.
01:18:39.000 And they were all the security for this place.
01:18:42.000 But I was like, this is the craziest idea ever.
01:18:45.000 There's like seven or eight people that have these security jackets on.
01:18:50.000 And It's like fucking thousands and thousands of crazy assholes.
01:18:55.000 And I could always wear a jacket over my security jacket.
01:18:58.000 I would just try to blend in as much as possible.
01:19:01.000 I'm like, I'm way too short for this, too.
01:19:03.000 I'm only 5'8".
01:19:04.000 I can't be around big, giant dudes with a security jacket on.
01:19:07.000 That shit's ridiculous.
01:19:09.000 I don't want to have to fucking punch and kick my way out of this.
01:19:12.000 I remember there'd be slow nights where you'd have a big, rowdy sports team come in, and it'd be like, The bartender and you'd have one doorman on because it's a slow night or two.
01:19:22.000 And then you'd literally...
01:19:23.000 They'd be getting rowdy and starting to smash glasses.
01:19:25.000 And then literally we'd have to think like, okay, like, be ready.
01:19:28.000 Like, be ready to jump over the bar if you have to help, right?
01:19:31.000 If these guys get to a point where they really want to...
01:19:33.000 Because sometimes you say it can be so weird that you just politely ask them to do something and then they get super aggressive.
01:19:39.000 Well, I always...
01:19:39.000 And then they just really look at size where they're like, fuck, there's like nine of us and we're all in good shape and there's only two or three of them.
01:19:47.000 Like...
01:19:48.000 Why do I have to respect this guy?
01:19:50.000 Yeah, shit can get creepy.
01:19:52.000 It can get bad.
01:19:52.000 But what a lot of people didn't know was in a small town is a lot of the people hanging out were really good friends with the staff.
01:19:58.000 They come there all the time.
01:20:00.000 So the odd times that that happened when I was doing it...
01:20:03.000 You'd have people jump in from outside, right?
01:20:06.000 So you serviced the community, more or less?
01:20:09.000 Well, you'd have friends.
01:20:10.000 When they're regular, you treat them good, and then they come in.
01:20:14.000 I'll tell you, the one time my dad was friends with a lot of the big MC guys, and when they used to come in, there was never a problem in the bar.
01:20:20.000 Because everyone was worried about bumping into one of them or some idiots wrestling and they fall into a table.
01:20:26.000 So it was weird.
01:20:28.000 On those nights, it was usually the young, just starting to slang, little yang bangers that think that they're all that and they have something to prove.
01:20:36.000 And they're doing something for somebody else where they've got some kind of connection.
01:20:40.000 Dude, what a nutty gig for you, man.
01:20:42.000 And to be only 23 years of age and having to handle all that...
01:20:45.000 Oh man, my wife, that's why I married her.
01:20:49.000 She was a trooper through that too.
01:20:50.000 How long did it last before you got rid of it?
01:20:52.000 Oh, I had to get...
01:20:52.000 My dad passed away in 2003 and we were out of there by 2005. So for two years you had to run that motherfucker.
01:20:58.000 I had to get proper books because my dad didn't do proper books.
01:21:01.000 Oh no.
01:21:01.000 So to sell to a legit buyer, they wanted at least two to three years of books, right?
01:21:05.000 I should have talked to my friend Bad Bobby.
01:21:07.000 Yeah, well that was what some of the...
01:21:09.000 Smoothed over the situation.
01:21:10.000 Yeah.
01:21:10.000 Well, trust me.
01:21:11.000 There's lots of bad Bobbies coming around, but my thing was like, okay, if I took a...
01:21:14.000 There's only one bad Bobby.
01:21:16.000 You don't know bad Bobby.
01:21:17.000 I've got to tell you.
01:21:18.000 I mean, bad, but guys that would come with a cash offer, right?
01:21:22.000 And then if there's a cash offer...
01:21:23.000 That sounds like bad Bobby.
01:21:24.000 Yeah, well, but then in three years, if it doesn't do the numbers, they think, and they say, well, I think I overpaid.
01:21:30.000 I want some back.
01:21:31.000 Right?
01:21:32.000 So that's why I was like, okay, I don't want to go that option.
01:21:36.000 So I tried to work it out with a childhood friend and then didn't do that right either because we didn't put everything on paper, so I got screwed.
01:21:44.000 I remember my wife was eight months pregnant with Riley, my daughter, and we had negative $400 in our account and I needed $45,000 to finish the union.
01:21:56.000 And I didn't know where I was going to get it.
01:21:57.000 Suck that dick, son.
01:21:59.000 Did you?
01:22:00.000 Think about it?
01:22:01.000 No, fuck at all.
01:22:01.000 Think about if you can find a rich guy and suck his dick for a million.
01:22:04.000 I was in New York and worked around those guys.
01:22:05.000 There'd be no way.
01:22:06.000 Yeah, what if, you know, like for whatever reason, you got flown to John Travolta's house to film some sort of...
01:22:12.000 No, no, no.
01:22:14.000 Man, I got bad stories about those ones.
01:22:16.000 People magazine and, you know...
01:22:17.000 Man, I did that stuff in New York.
01:22:18.000 I lived in a model house in New York.
01:22:20.000 So you did that stuff?
01:22:21.000 Not that.
01:22:22.000 I don't want to get you in anything you don't want to talk about, man.
01:22:24.000 No, no, no.
01:22:25.000 So just give me a nod.
01:22:26.000 Shit gets too gay.
01:22:29.000 Never, for the record, never did any gay shit.
01:22:32.000 I'm sure you did.
01:22:32.000 I'm sure you did.
01:22:33.000 No, I lived in a model house because I used to work for men's fitness.
01:22:36.000 I'm only fucking around.
01:22:36.000 Thank you for not getting upset.
01:22:38.000 Oh, I know.
01:22:38.000 Why would I get upset?
01:22:39.000 I've listened to your show.
01:22:40.000 I've listened since you guys had snowflakes.
01:22:42.000 I know what the show's about.
01:22:44.000 Yeah, well, we've hung out a bunch of times, man.
01:22:46.000 It was fun, the UFC up in Vancouver, but right now, I don't think they can come back.
01:22:51.000 Why?
01:22:52.000 I think there's some problem with the regulatory mission or something.
01:22:54.000 Well, I want to try to come see when you're in Calgary.
01:22:56.000 There was some sort of ruling against MMA in Vancouver, I'm back.
01:23:00.000 What?
01:23:00.000 I'm trying to remember what the actual problem was.
01:23:02.000 Please, no.
01:23:03.000 Let me Google this real quick.
01:23:06.000 What is that all about?
01:23:07.000 I don't know, man.
01:23:08.000 It's a fucking problem all over the world, dude.
01:23:13.000 But they had two successful shows there.
01:23:15.000 New York that want to see the UFC, and somehow or another it's been...
01:23:20.000 Do they still sell players' cigarettes in Canada?
01:23:23.000 Oh, you bet.
01:23:24.000 What am I Googling again?
01:23:25.000 Jesus Christ.
01:23:27.000 UFC now going back to Vancouver.
01:23:28.000 UFC Vancouver, right?
01:23:29.000 Well, you guys are coming to Calgary soon.
01:23:31.000 That's not far from where I am.
01:23:32.000 Well, 8-hour drive.
01:23:33.000 I got so upset.
01:23:35.000 All I could think of was Bob Riley.
01:23:37.000 I started thinking about New York.
01:23:38.000 I completely spaced on Vancouver because the New York thing drives me fucking crazy.
01:23:42.000 I can't believe that.
01:23:43.000 It's so illogical, and it's so corrupt, and it's so gross.
01:23:46.000 The people of New York would make a lot of fucking money if the UFC came to Madison Square Garden.
01:23:52.000 It would be fucking huge.
01:23:54.000 How about this?
01:23:55.000 John Jones vs.
01:23:57.000 Anderson Silva or Anderson Silva vs.
01:24:00.000 George St. Pierre.
01:24:01.000 Something like that.
01:24:02.000 Inside Madison.
01:24:03.000 Fucking Square Garden!
01:24:04.000 Are you shitting me?
01:24:07.000 Some cunts are keeping that from happening!
01:24:09.000 That could fucking happen!
01:24:11.000 What's the hole back there?
01:24:13.000 Some cunts!
01:24:15.000 I don't even want to name names.
01:24:17.000 Political bullshit, nonsense, culinary union, fucking whatever, whatever.
01:24:23.000 A lot of corruption.
01:24:24.000 People are getting greased.
01:24:26.000 The desire of the people is getting ignored.
01:24:29.000 People want to have it in the state.
01:24:31.000 It generates money.
01:24:32.000 The amount of fans that they have in New York City alone is fucking through the roof.
01:24:37.000 Everywhere you look, there's a jiu-jitsu school in New York.
01:24:39.000 There's MMA gyms, boxing gyms.
01:24:42.000 People are allowed to enjoy it.
01:24:45.000 Asshole politician with some fucking backing by whatever creepy organization that's trying to keep this shit out.
01:24:52.000 It's ridiculous because it violates the will of the people.
01:24:55.000 Anybody that does that is a shit politician.
01:24:57.000 That's a sad statement.
01:24:58.000 That's an anti-American thing to do.
01:25:00.000 You're trying to keep something away from people that want it.
01:25:04.000 You're trying to block a business.
01:25:06.000 You're trying to do it because you're in cahoots with a different business.
01:25:08.000 That should be illegal.
01:25:10.000 That's corruption.
01:25:12.000 I can't picture...
01:25:13.000 It's not American.
01:25:13.000 There better be a mistake with it and not come back to Vancouver.
01:25:16.000 It's not American!
01:25:19.000 Leaving Vancouver for Calgary.
01:25:22.000 Yeah.
01:25:22.000 When you guys are coming to Calgary, that's all good.
01:25:24.000 I don't know, man.
01:25:26.000 I feel like...
01:25:27.000 I still want you in BC, but...
01:25:30.000 Okay, here's the latest.
01:25:31.000 Legislation opens door for Ultimate Fighting Championship.
01:25:35.000 Okay, so this sounds good.
01:25:37.000 Maybe I read that wrong.
01:25:42.000 I know.
01:25:42.000 People always go with me.
01:25:43.000 Some people try to come up with the toughest questions about marijuana and be like, what do you think about this law that was passed in Missouri two weeks ago?
01:25:49.000 And I'm like, man, sorry, I do my best to try to stay up to date on everything, but it is physically impossible.
01:25:56.000 I don't know what's going on in Missouri.
01:25:58.000 Okay, so they did stop it.
01:26:00.000 There was an introduction of a provincial law designed to break the deadlock over regulation and supervision of combat sports.
01:26:09.000 So originally they stopped it, and now they're trying to figure out the correct way to regulate it.
01:26:14.000 That's what's going on now.
01:26:16.000 No, it seems like they're opening the door to it coming back.
01:26:20.000 I think people, you know, ultimately they hear the will of the people, especially today.
01:26:24.000 It's so popular in Canada.
01:26:25.000 People don't even understand.
01:26:26.000 It's hugely popular in America, way more popular in Canada.
01:26:30.000 No, it's like in Canada, it's not like when there's a UFC, it's not like, are you watching the fights?
01:26:34.000 It's like, where are you going to watch the fights?
01:26:36.000 Dude, we were at the fucking Rogers Arena, that gigantic Rogers Center, whatever it is.
01:26:42.000 What is it called?
01:26:43.000 Is it the Rogers Center?
01:26:44.000 Yeah.
01:26:44.000 The crazy building.
01:26:47.000 It's so big there's a hotel inside of it.
01:26:50.000 There's a hotel inside of it and they used to play baseball indoors.
01:26:53.000 That's how big this place is.
01:26:55.000 And it was filled.
01:26:56.000 I don't know if they could do that in America.
01:26:58.000 Maybe they could.
01:26:59.000 If it was George St. Pierre and Anderson Silva, I guarantee you they could do that in America.
01:27:03.000 But that's a big goddamn crowd.
01:27:05.000 No, Canada's nutty for it.
01:27:08.000 And Canada has less people.
01:27:09.000 Yeah.
01:27:11.000 But I think that comes a lot with the hockey culture, right?
01:27:13.000 There's been fighting in the hockey culture for years, which is like our national sport.
01:27:17.000 I hate to say this, but I think there's more fucking manly men per capita in Canada.
01:27:21.000 Or more condoms.
01:27:22.000 I just think, you know, I think you come from a country, first of all, that has to survive the cold, right?
01:27:29.000 And I think that's good for your character.
01:27:31.000 You know, I've always compared people that have it soft to people that had it tough, and you always see the people that have had, like, the most interesting people that I know are all people that had it tough.
01:27:42.000 You know, when you have it soft, it's easy to just come out fucking useless.
01:27:47.000 Well, they got those battle scars, even if they're not physical ones, right?
01:27:51.000 The wounds of going through that.
01:27:53.000 That's a lot of times people said, I have an old soul for...
01:27:56.000 That's one of the gayest things someone can ever say to you.
01:27:58.000 You need to get away from them because they're probably trying to fuck you.
01:28:01.000 Right?
01:28:01.000 If it's a dude especially...
01:28:03.000 It was a woman.
01:28:04.000 It was a woman.
01:28:04.000 Okay, she's definitely trying to fuck you.
01:28:06.000 Look at you, you handsome bastard.
01:28:07.000 No.
01:28:07.000 I was at a restaurant once and I actually heard that hack line, that old soul.
01:28:11.000 A guy was like reading a book.
01:28:13.000 It was the weirdest thing, man.
01:28:15.000 He's an actor that was in...
01:28:17.000 I don't even want to say his name.
01:28:19.000 Just some weird old actor that was in a bunch of movies and then he probably went crazy.
01:28:23.000 So he's sitting by himself with a book, which is what you do at a restaurant if you go to a nice place.
01:28:27.000 And so there's this couple next to him.
01:28:28.000 He just starts introducing himself.
01:28:30.000 What'd you do?
01:28:31.000 Sorry.
01:28:32.000 Is that a glitch?
01:28:32.000 Yeah.
01:28:33.000 He starts introducing himself into their conversation and talking to them, and then he's like telling this man that he has an old soul.
01:28:41.000 Oh, that's lame.
01:28:42.000 And I'm like, come on.
01:28:43.000 Now you make me feel bad I used that choice of words.
01:28:45.000 No, it's okay.
01:28:47.000 I mean, look, you said what you mean, you know?
01:28:50.000 Nothing wrong with it, but I had a funny old soul story.
01:28:53.000 So yeah, they drew up a funny image.
01:28:55.000 He like wore a bandana.
01:28:57.000 He's one of those assholes, sit by himself, eating dinner with a bandana on his head.
01:29:01.000 Okay, what the fuck are you doing?
01:29:03.000 Reading a book.
01:29:03.000 We used to get those guys in the nightclub too.
01:29:05.000 They'd come in and sit in the corner, read a book.
01:29:07.000 It's like, really?
01:29:08.000 It's probably the loudest, most annoying place to read it.
01:29:10.000 You're better off just to have a drink and stare at the girls because that's what you really want to do.
01:29:13.000 Well, some people like that though.
01:29:14.000 You know, it's like some people like to work at Starbucks.
01:29:16.000 They want to hear people come in and come out.
01:29:18.000 That I can understand, but a nightclub like...
01:29:20.000 We can't even hear yourself think.
01:29:22.000 People like that shit, man.
01:29:23.000 People are weird, you know?
01:29:25.000 Maybe.
01:29:26.000 People are weird, dude.
01:29:27.000 I don't have to tell you.
01:29:27.000 You were running a goddamn cocaine strip club connection at 23 years of age.
01:29:33.000 Yeah.
01:29:34.000 How did you avoid getting sucked into the clutches of organized crime?
01:29:37.000 I just...
01:29:38.000 Well, I left originally when I was younger and went to New York, and I wanted to get into the film industry and stuff like that, so I... I don't know, when I came back, I never was much of a big drinker and wasn't into the party scene, so luckily I didn't fall into that trap.
01:29:54.000 So the union was like the first thing you ever did, really?
01:29:57.000 Yeah, the first thing I'd ever produced, yes.
01:29:59.000 Did such a fucking bang-up job of it, man.
01:30:01.000 And you went to some real creepy places.
01:30:04.000 You were like sort of an investigative reporter in that movie.
01:30:08.000 When you went to those places where you went to those underground...
01:30:11.000 Yeah, man.
01:30:12.000 Explain that, because that's kind of crazy.
01:30:14.000 Well, we knew the people that were busted in there, and obviously...
01:30:17.000 Well, explain what the situation was.
01:30:18.000 Okay, well, for the people listening at home to know, there was 20 full-size, like, those square...
01:30:23.000 They're not actual train carts, but they're the cargo carts that they put on the trains.
01:30:27.000 And they'd actually buried them and connected them together, so that if you were to look at them, that it'd be, you know, five rows with two each way.
01:30:34.000 Or, no, ten rows with two each way, so...
01:30:36.000 Like, 20 full-size train carts buried underground, and they had a giant grow-op under there, and it was 10 miles in the mountain where there isn't a neighbor.
01:30:45.000 You want to hear the craziest part, Joe?
01:30:46.000 The guy that got that busted actually snuck in there and took pictures one night to show the cops.
01:30:50.000 Oh, no, he didn't.
01:30:52.000 Yes, he did.
01:30:53.000 Oh, my God, balls of steel.
01:30:55.000 Way up in the bush, like, way the fuck out there.
01:30:57.000 Balls of adamantium.
01:30:58.000 Oh, man.
01:30:59.000 But, yeah, that had 287 lights.
01:31:02.000 Adamantium.
01:31:02.000 What does Wolverine's bones mean?
01:31:03.000 Animantium.
01:31:04.000 That's how I always said it.
01:31:05.000 Animantium.
01:31:06.000 Yeah.
01:31:07.000 Jesus, that guy had balls.
01:31:09.000 287 lights.
01:31:10.000 And they were both going to make, just the growers that I knew in there were going to make half a million each in one year.
01:31:15.000 Oh my goodness!
01:31:16.000 Yeah.
01:31:17.000 And so what happens now?
01:31:18.000 Because it's not legal.
01:31:19.000 They got ratted.
01:31:20.000 So what happens?
01:31:21.000 They got very lucky.
01:31:22.000 One of them got nothing.
01:31:23.000 Got it totally wiped.
01:31:24.000 The lawyer got her off.
01:31:25.000 And the other guy just got house arrest and had to pay a big fine.
01:31:32.000 Whoa.
01:31:32.000 Canada is going at it gangster style.
01:31:35.000 I like it.
01:31:36.000 Well, because they also have a lot of money to fight it in court, right?
01:31:39.000 Well, not only that, man, I think Canada is probably, it's very obviously been influenced by the policies of the United States.
01:31:46.000 Definitely.
01:31:47.000 And the United States has like, you know, they've set parameters for Canada and told them very specifically.
01:31:53.000 They don't want them making marijuana illegal, or making it legal, rather.
01:31:56.000 I mean, it's been held up like a carrot, you know?
01:32:00.000 And whatever, you know, discussions we have, diplomacy, I mean, what kind of diplomacy do we have?
01:32:05.000 We're, like, completely connected, you know?
01:32:07.000 I mean, we will never, you know, Canada and the United States, it's so weird that we're two separate countries.
01:32:12.000 Really, it is, yeah.
01:32:13.000 Because we're connected.
01:32:15.000 You can drive there.
01:32:15.000 Everywhere.
01:32:16.000 The whole thing is drivable.
01:32:17.000 Well, that's why I see where...
01:32:19.000 I mean, not really.
01:32:20.000 This woods and shit.
01:32:21.000 Well, where Kelowna is, Kelowna's right on a border there in the lake.
01:32:25.000 And there's a lake in Asuyas that's got...
01:32:27.000 Half of it is in the U.S. and half of it is Canada.
01:32:30.000 So you can drive your boat out, right?
01:32:32.000 That's crazy, man.
01:32:33.000 You've got to pull out a passport?
01:32:34.000 And they're there.
01:32:35.000 Yeah, the Marine guys are like, all day long.
01:32:37.000 Oh, that's so gross.
01:32:38.000 That's so fucking North Korea, man.
01:32:40.000 And it's, yeah, it's bizarre when you think about it.
01:32:42.000 But there was guys I knew from Kelowna that were smuggling.
01:32:45.000 They'd get these one-body submarines and go underneath it so they could get into the U.S. Oh, my God.
01:32:50.000 That's so gangster.
01:32:52.000 Submarines.
01:32:53.000 Jesus Christ.
01:32:54.000 It's literally, if you see Kelowna, they're the rock stars.
01:32:58.000 If they're doing well, especially in the late 90s when the US dollar was like 55 cents on the Canadian dollar and they were getting like 4,500 US a pound and then that was transferring to like 6,000 Canadian.
01:33:12.000 Wow.
01:33:12.000 They were making a killing.
01:33:13.000 It's amazing, man.
01:33:16.000 And in Cologne, like in BC, a lot, like we said, it's like one in seven is what the economists said, of like living dwelling units, or one in 100 has it, and then the grow-ups, like, when you say there, and you almost, you see...
01:33:30.000 One in 100 has it...
01:33:31.000 Has a potential grow-up in it.
01:33:33.000 So every hundred houses, there's one house that's a grow-up.
01:33:35.000 Yes.
01:33:35.000 And what is the one in seven?
01:33:37.000 The one in seven in certain blocks in outer small towns of where there's grow-ups in these farms.
01:33:43.000 That it's one in seven in those areas?
01:33:44.000 Oh my god.
01:33:45.000 There's been small towns that they've done articles on that literally the town had nothing, everything was dry.
01:33:50.000 Then some guys came up there with a big grow-up.
01:33:52.000 They're paying all the guys to do construction, good cash.
01:33:55.000 And of course, that's the whole thing of why this union evolved because the guys building the shed or the electrician setting up the lights, that's not illegal, right?
01:34:02.000 As long as you're not stealing the power.
01:34:04.000 Right.
01:34:04.000 So if he gets come to wire it all, and the guy's like, oh, here, here's six grand cash, call it even.
01:34:09.000 Well, of course, even the electrician's like, sweet.
01:34:11.000 I'm not going to declare all that.
01:34:12.000 Right.
01:34:13.000 Right?
01:34:13.000 So there's a love-hate relationship that's built around the business of it, right?
01:34:18.000 Which we break down in the union.
01:34:20.000 I'm raveling on about that.
01:34:21.000 No, it's a real strange sort of a situation because it's much, much more illegal in certain parts of America.
01:34:28.000 Like if you had to try to run an operation like that in Texas, they'll fucking...
01:34:32.000 They'll get you, man.
01:34:33.000 They'll come and get you.
01:34:34.000 Don't mess with Texas.
01:34:34.000 I lived in Texas, too.
01:34:36.000 But it's a shame.
01:34:36.000 I fucking love Texas, man.
01:34:38.000 Texas is one of my favorite places to visit.
01:34:40.000 I did my first CD in Houston.
01:34:44.000 That's where I lived in Houston.
01:34:45.000 I did my first DVD in Austin.
01:34:47.000 I mean, I fucking love Texas.
01:34:49.000 But...
01:34:50.000 Make no mistake about it.
01:34:52.000 That's a really fucking suppressive situation they have there when it comes to marijuana in Texas.
01:34:58.000 If you get caught with medical marijuana, if you're like some dude with a prescription, you could still get in trouble there.
01:35:03.000 They don't respect any doctor's recommendation or any nonsense.
01:35:07.000 Like, you got some drugs on you, boy.
01:35:09.000 I don't want to hear no faggotry about your fucking prescription.
01:35:13.000 You ain't getting no prescription here in Texas.
01:35:16.000 Yeah, no, don't mess with Texas.
01:35:18.000 Other than that, it's great.
01:35:19.000 Meanwhile, everybody could use some weed.
01:35:21.000 If all of Texas, it's the irony of it all, is that if all of Texas had weed, the cops' jobs would be way fucking easier.
01:35:30.000 Way easier.
01:35:31.000 That's a fact, man.
01:35:32.000 People would chill out.
01:35:33.000 They would get all paranoid and shit, and they'd do less crime because of that.
01:35:37.000 And then they would also just be a little bit more sensitive to what the fuck is actually going on.
01:35:42.000 What are the repercussions of your evil actions out there robbing people?
01:35:46.000 Settle the fuck down, dude.
01:35:47.000 For real.
01:35:48.000 They've already proven that it's had a decline in automobile accidents in places where medical marijuana is legal.
01:35:55.000 I can't wait to dive into the cult.
01:35:58.000 Like, for me...
01:35:59.000 That may or may not be true.
01:35:59.000 Because you know what?
01:36:00.000 I did no research on that whatsoever.
01:36:02.000 I just read it online.
01:36:03.000 So, I can't wait...
01:36:05.000 A study done by Dr. Rogan.
01:36:10.000 It absolutely doesn't mean that I'm endorsing smoking pot and driving.
01:36:13.000 Some people can't handle life, okay?
01:36:16.000 I would never say that everybody is the same when it comes to tolerance of aspirin, alcohol, coffee.
01:36:22.000 I've seen it with alcohol.
01:36:23.000 For sure.
01:36:23.000 I've seen it with everything.
01:36:24.000 You can never tell anybody to do anything because some people can't do shit.
01:36:28.000 Some people are binge eaters.
01:36:29.000 You give them one little piece of sugary something and they'll go crazy.
01:36:33.000 It's a voracious thing.
01:36:35.000 I've watched people polish down ice cream sundaes that shouldn't have had an ice cream sundae and it's like, wow.
01:36:41.000 It's orgasmic.
01:36:43.000 This guy's fulfilling some just deep, This is like sexual almost.
01:36:49.000 Like he's fucking this ice cream.
01:36:51.000 You know what I mean?
01:36:51.000 Well, it's tough.
01:36:52.000 Like when you look at junk, like I wish, you know, when you go look at something, for me, I'm a pastry guy because my grandmother was Italian, right?
01:36:58.000 So like when I see that stuff, I'm like, oh, I could just eat a tray of it, right?
01:37:02.000 What is your shit?
01:37:04.000 Do you like...
01:37:06.000 Those napoleons, man.
01:37:08.000 The three layered chocolate with the chocolate top.
01:37:10.000 That was one of my favorite from my grandmother.
01:37:12.000 I just called them the three layer cookie.
01:37:15.000 I used to eat those things.
01:37:17.000 That was the only time my grandma would get mad is when she'd save them for the big Christmas parties and I'd go in and raid them and go to lay out the tray spread for all the family and there'd be like six left.
01:37:26.000 My grandmother used to make these other ones that had like a black licorice.
01:37:30.000 They were like a little biscuit.
01:37:34.000 You know what someone fucked up and forgot to bring to the West Coast?
01:37:40.000 Good rice pudding.
01:37:42.000 See, I always have a bad thought about rice pudding.
01:37:44.000 When I lived in New York, we used to go to little diners to eat.
01:37:50.000 Like if I was doing stand-up or something, I'd stop at a diner.
01:37:54.000 They all had a cheeseburger deluxe.
01:37:57.000 And the cheeseburger deluxe was usually two patties.
01:38:00.000 And they would give you some coleslaw with it.
01:38:02.000 And for dessert, if you wanted to, they had a little glass thing with like, that cake looks good.
01:38:05.000 What's that over there?
01:38:06.000 You guys got any rice pudding?
01:38:08.000 Yeah, we got some rice pudding.
01:38:09.000 Rice pudding and whipped cream.
01:38:10.000 And it's fucking ridiculously delicious.
01:38:13.000 It's so good.
01:38:14.000 And you can't find it out here.
01:38:15.000 It's real rare that you see rice pudding.
01:38:17.000 It was so common on the East Coast.
01:38:19.000 Yeah, I don't, that's not, mine has always been the pastries.
01:38:22.000 My grandmother made everything homemade.
01:38:23.000 Homemade bread, homemade jam.
01:38:24.000 You're healthy, dude.
01:38:25.000 Do you watch what you eat?
01:38:26.000 Now I'm getting back out.
01:38:27.000 I just started on the isogenics, actually, to get back in shape here.
01:38:30.000 What is isogenics?
01:38:31.000 It's like the, it's protein shakes.
01:38:33.000 Are you in Scientology now?
01:38:34.000 No, no, no.
01:38:37.000 It's the weight loss thing.
01:38:39.000 I got up to 224 at 6 foot and I'm like, I'd be fighting Cain Velasquez right now.
01:38:45.000 I'm like, hell.
01:38:46.000 Not that my ideal weight that I want to get down to is 190. Not that that would be much better because it would be Anderson Silva.
01:38:51.000 Yeah.
01:38:51.000 The way I really think like that, guess what?
01:38:54.000 You don't have to fight any of those guys.
01:38:56.000 And if you did, the weight wouldn't matter.
01:38:58.000 But you see, what I think with Anderson is at least it would just be like a ninja finish, right?
01:39:02.000 Like, bang, you'd finish me before I could breathe.
01:39:04.000 Kane, I just picture this savage brutalizing before it would be like...
01:39:07.000 A slam and a crunch.
01:39:09.000 And he never gets tired.
01:39:11.000 I'd be a mangled pretzel.
01:39:13.000 His dismantling of Bigfoot Silva was really disturbing.
01:39:17.000 Because everybody knew before Kane ever came to the UFC, everybody in the know knew about this kid, a former Arizona State wrestler who they would say was tearing it up at AKA. They're like, this guy is a beast.
01:39:29.000 I mean, I heard a bunch of guys talk about it.
01:39:31.000 Chael Sonnen, who is pretty fucking honest with praise or criticism when it comes to fighters.
01:39:37.000 Yeah.
01:39:37.000 Said, everybody knows the best heavyweight in the world is Cain Velasquez.
01:39:41.000 This is before he ever fought Brock for the title.
01:39:43.000 And so when he mauled Brock, the people in the know were like, wow, yeah, that guy's for real.
01:39:49.000 Which makes Junior Dos Santos' fight and victory over him in the first round even more staggering.
01:39:54.000 Junior is such a bad motherfucker, man.
01:39:56.000 For real.
01:39:58.000 It's just so exciting now with all the great guys that are there.
01:40:01.000 I could watch every weekend.
01:40:03.000 I'm so pissed off the Ream fight didn't happen.
01:40:05.000 That would be a really fantastic fight because that would be one of the first fights where a guy wants to stand up with him.
01:40:11.000 And that's where it gets really crazy because guess what?
01:40:14.000 Junior can take guys down too, man.
01:40:16.000 He took Shane Carwin down.
01:40:19.000 Well, that's why it'd be interesting to see what happens if DeSantis gets taken down.
01:40:23.000 I know he's trained, but I haven't seen him yet.
01:40:26.000 Yeah, you know, he's such a fucking great athlete, man.
01:40:29.000 Junior has some amazing hand speed.
01:40:32.000 Amazing.
01:40:32.000 He's really, really going to be hard for a lot of guys to deal with because he has an advantage over almost everybody when it comes to the thing that's the easiest to land, which is your hands.
01:40:44.000 It's hard to kick somebody.
01:40:46.000 It's real hard when you're worried about guys taking you down, especially hard if a guy's a real good wrestler.
01:40:52.000 It's hard to get those kicks off.
01:40:53.000 But when you're nervous and you're not sure with your footing yet, you don't have your timing down yet, you're not going to throw a wheel kick.
01:41:01.000 You're going to throw a jab.
01:41:03.000 You're going to throw a jab.
01:41:04.000 Well, Junior's jab is like you getting caught in the end of a telephone pole.
01:41:09.000 And he throws that shit perfect.
01:41:12.000 Right in your face.
01:41:13.000 He pops you a couple times on the chin with that shit.
01:41:17.000 You're still in the fight, but you're significantly diminished.
01:41:21.000 I was there for the Carwin fight that was in Vancouver.
01:41:24.000 I watched that.
01:41:24.000 That was just like, bang, bang.
01:41:26.000 Amazing performance.
01:41:27.000 Amazing Carwin's face stayed together.
01:41:29.000 Carwin is a beast, dude.
01:41:30.000 That guy is so fucking tough.
01:41:32.000 If that didn't convince everybody, he could have quit in between rounds.
01:41:35.000 His face was smashed up.
01:41:37.000 They could have called that fight.
01:41:38.000 They could have called that fight.
01:41:39.000 I thought they were going to call it earlier.
01:41:41.000 He looked like he was going to come close.
01:41:43.000 He's just so fucking tough, man.
01:41:45.000 He is just so fucking tough.
01:41:47.000 He's an animal, man.
01:41:48.000 He's a tough, tough dude.
01:41:50.000 And a nice fucking guy, too.
01:41:53.000 Shane Carlin is one of the nicest people you could ever meet.
01:41:55.000 Super friendly.
01:41:56.000 Genuinely nice to everybody he meets.
01:41:59.000 I've heard you talk on the podcast, Joe.
01:42:01.000 It seems right, too, because I had a boxing background, and when you go in there, even the best guys have taken a lick, and they know what that feeling's like, and to get challenged in there, and you can get caught on any given night, that you are more humble because you go work it out, and you've been through there.
01:42:16.000 I like to go.
01:42:17.000 I went to go try jujitsu for my first time a few months ago because I did boxing and fought and stuff when I was younger.
01:42:25.000 I'm so enthralled by...
01:42:27.000 I watch these young kids on YouTube now that are doing jujitsu moves and slamming guys.
01:42:31.000 Have you seen the headbutt knockout of the kid on the one?
01:42:34.000 I've seen every fight that's ever been thrown in there.
01:42:37.000 I got a problem, dude.
01:42:38.000 It's like a little ninja...
01:42:39.000 Okay, you've seen this one?
01:42:40.000 The guy has his shirt off.
01:42:41.000 If you type W into my browser, WorldStarHipHop comes up.
01:42:45.000 Okay, that's how many fights I've seen.
01:42:49.000 That's the first thing Google Chrome says.
01:42:51.000 Oh, bitch, I know where you're going.
01:42:52.000 What's your first Twitter?
01:42:54.000 Because mine's like, for some reason, it's like something I used to tweet a long time ago, but I haven't been on that for a long time.
01:43:00.000 But for some reason, that's always the first one.
01:43:01.000 If I hit T, it comes up Twitter, but then it's like backslash something I don't...
01:43:05.000 I shouldn't...
01:43:06.000 Oh, really?
01:43:06.000 So it'll come up weird, like a page that you never visit before?
01:43:10.000 Or rarely visit?
01:43:11.000 I used to visit all the time, an ex-girlfriend.
01:43:14.000 Yeah, that does happen sometimes, right?
01:43:15.000 Yeah, it's an ex-girlfriend.
01:43:16.000 But every time I press T, it's the first one that comes up.
01:43:19.000 I'm like, Jesus.
01:43:20.000 Because you're a stalker.
01:43:21.000 You don't realize it.
01:43:22.000 I think it has something with the cloud.
01:43:23.000 I think it's in the cloud.
01:43:24.000 You know what I mean?
01:43:25.000 It's because I use Safari or something.
01:43:26.000 I don't know.
01:43:27.000 Oh, yeah, probably.
01:43:28.000 Does Safari take its cookies from the cloud, too?
01:43:31.000 Probably.
01:43:32.000 I don't know.
01:43:33.000 Who the fuck knows?
01:43:33.000 I don't know.
01:43:34.000 I don't understand that.
01:43:35.000 I thought you were going to ask me.
01:43:36.000 Don't ask me.
01:43:37.000 This is what we've got to do, people.
01:43:39.000 We've got to all be nice to each other because we're getting absorbed.
01:43:42.000 We're all going to be one thing.
01:43:44.000 It's happening.
01:43:45.000 It's happening right now.
01:43:46.000 We've got to learn to be nice to each other.
01:43:48.000 Learn to do your fucking part here.
01:43:50.000 Pull your own goddamn weight because we are one crazy thing.
01:43:54.000 And that shit is slowly being brought to light technologically.
01:43:58.000 Oh man, look at the funny story today.
01:44:00.000 Or not.
01:44:01.000 Maybe.
01:44:01.000 I just fucking got high and made that shit up and read some Ray Kurzweil and got all excited.
01:44:06.000 I was getting on the plane today from Vancouver.
01:44:09.000 What's her name?
01:44:11.000 She was Kelly Taylor on 90210, the blonde, Janine Garth.
01:44:16.000 Jenny Garth.
01:44:17.000 I was looking, I was like, I think that's her.
01:44:19.000 And then I went online, right?
01:44:21.000 And I'm like, what does she look like now?
01:44:22.000 I'm on my phone.
01:44:23.000 I'm like, okay.
01:44:24.000 And then I saw on her Twitter, it said that she just wrapped filming a movie in Canada.
01:44:28.000 So I was like, okay, that's her.
01:44:30.000 So then I said, oh, I tweeted, oh, I'm in YVR, and I see this blonde, and I think it looks familiar, and I find out it's her.
01:44:38.000 Oh, she still looks beautiful for her age.
01:44:41.000 Why'd you say the age part?
01:44:43.000 No, I didn't say age.
01:44:44.000 I just said beautiful.
01:44:45.000 Actually, I just said beautiful.
01:44:46.000 I said, still looks beautiful.
01:44:47.000 No age.
01:44:47.000 Didn't fit.
01:44:48.000 You can check my Twitter.
01:44:49.000 I dare you.
01:44:50.000 Yeah, no, no, because I tweeted her in, and then she tweeted.
01:44:52.000 Backtracking, motherfucker.
01:44:54.000 No, you can check.
01:44:55.000 It's there for evidence.
01:44:56.000 I believe you.
01:44:56.000 I believe you.
01:44:57.000 I fuck my own quotes up all the time.
01:45:00.000 Yeah, but then I put her in it, and then she was like, oh, hey, you must have been on my flight.
01:45:05.000 Ha ha, thank you.
01:45:07.000 And I was thinking about that weird.
01:45:08.000 You never had that connectivity.
01:45:10.000 Right there, if you made contact with a star, if you were a big fan of 90210, that would have...
01:45:15.000 Could have made your year just by going through...
01:45:17.000 Have you followed up?
01:45:19.000 So what's up?
01:45:21.000 Nothing's up with me.
01:45:23.000 Trying to get freaky with my girl?
01:45:24.000 No, man.
01:45:24.000 Married two kids.
01:45:25.000 There's no freaky left here.
01:45:26.000 I feel like...
01:45:26.000 Of course.
01:45:27.000 We're just joking.
01:45:27.000 There's nothing wrong with going to the Olive Garden with the beautiful woman.
01:45:29.000 I feel like for some reason, I felt like she had a talk show that maybe I was going to be on.
01:45:34.000 I don't know if I did it.
01:45:36.000 But I did the Donnie and Marie show.
01:45:38.000 I did a lot of shows, man.
01:45:40.000 When I was on news radio, we would do as many shows as they would ask us to do because our show was not doing that well in the ratings.
01:45:47.000 So I wound up doing the Donnie and Marie show.
01:45:49.000 I did it twice.
01:45:51.000 I did it with Chastity Bono before she became Chaz.
01:45:54.000 Really?
01:45:55.000 Yeah.
01:45:56.000 Before or after, which one felt best?
01:45:58.000 What's that?
01:45:58.000 Before or after, which one felt best?
01:46:00.000 I didn't see her.
01:46:01.000 I never met her after.
01:46:03.000 But it was fascinating.
01:46:03.000 I was listening to him now talk about the effect that turning hormonally into a man has had on what he likes and doesn't like.
01:46:14.000 It was really interesting.
01:46:15.000 Yeah, really fascinating.
01:46:17.000 And that mindless babble became incredibly irritating to him.
01:46:22.000 Whereas he enjoyed it when he was female.
01:46:26.000 So it's not just a stereotype you're saying?
01:46:29.000 Come on, man.
01:46:30.000 It's silly.
01:46:31.000 It's real clear in almost all primate cultures that men and women are different.
01:46:38.000 You've got to accept whoever the fuck we are.
01:46:41.000 Just don't try to change each other.
01:46:42.000 Accept the fact that we're absolutely, completely different things.
01:46:45.000 And just be nice to each other.
01:46:48.000 That's not always easy.
01:46:49.000 It's fucking hard, man.
01:46:50.000 That's the hard thing.
01:46:52.000 We have to admit, first of all, we're in a corrupt system.
01:46:55.000 So we have to figure out how to fix that without arresting every single fucking human being that's in power and every facet of government that could be responsible and corrupt.
01:47:04.000 We have to figure out a way to make this system make more sense.
01:47:08.000 This is not the right kind of system.
01:47:10.000 This seems too complicated, this whole representative government thing.
01:47:13.000 I don't know how you guys rock it up in Canada, how you feel about special interest groups.
01:47:20.000 Well, no, you can't.
01:47:22.000 In politics in Canada, you can't have big business give them money like they can in the U.S. You can't do that.
01:47:30.000 It's like the maximum they can take from one company is like...
01:47:32.000 I don't know the numbers correctly, but it's not very much.
01:47:36.000 Don't make a motherfucker move to Canada, dude.
01:47:39.000 I know you're a Canada fan.
01:47:40.000 You bring it up.
01:47:41.000 It's the best country, man.
01:47:43.000 When I go there, I always tell people it's like 20% less douchebags.
01:47:47.000 It's like I never understand why people can't be that cool in America.
01:47:51.000 It's weird.
01:47:52.000 One of the big differences I see now living in the U.S. and then coming here is there seems to be...
01:47:58.000 A bit more care in Canada.
01:47:59.000 I hear lots in the U.S. It's like, well, if he didn't make it, well, fuck him.
01:48:02.000 It's my right.
01:48:04.000 Instead of being like, yeah, but if everybody's not doing well and you're like, fuck your neighbor, well, if you run out of power and shit hits the fan and you need help, well, is it going to be fuck your neighbor then?
01:48:14.000 No, it's going to be like, hey, can we help each other out?
01:48:15.000 So, man, ambition is very good.
01:48:18.000 But ambition without compassion is empty.
01:48:21.000 It's nonsense.
01:48:22.000 That's ridiculous.
01:48:24.000 That's not the proper use of your karmic resources.
01:48:28.000 Because you've got to have a nice community.
01:48:31.000 You've got to be happy when you're doing well and when he's doing well.
01:48:35.000 And everybody enjoys each other's company.
01:48:37.000 And that's why you create a community.
01:48:40.000 The whole idea is that we could all do that if we accepted every one of us as if it was us leading another life.
01:48:48.000 See, all that shit, that's why weed's illegal, man.
01:48:50.000 Start thinking like that.
01:48:52.000 I'll tell you, from listening to your guys' show from the beginning and seeing what you guys have built up, you and Brian, I mean, this amazing community that supports each other, the other comedians, when people are on, you let them pull plugs for their stuff, and you see how well you guys are doing.
01:49:06.000 I've seen when you guys had your first one, it was snowy screen, and it was all over the place.
01:49:10.000 Now, and the kind of people, I genuinely look forward to it.
01:49:13.000 When you had Ricky Ross on here, talking to us, it was fantastic.
01:49:16.000 It's fascinating.
01:49:17.000 I can't wait to hear this.
01:49:18.000 Did you see Graham Hancock?
01:49:19.000 Oh, man, that's one of my favorites.
01:49:21.000 142. I know it off by heart.
01:49:22.000 I'm always like, yeah.
01:49:24.000 How dare you?
01:49:26.000 Have you been paying attention to this object in the bottom of the Baltic Sea?
01:49:29.000 I got it because of you, right?
01:49:30.000 I follow through.
01:49:31.000 Your tweets are the ones I look through the most.
01:49:33.000 Well, I'm just a portal, sir, because people deliver it to me first.
01:49:37.000 They know if they send me something weird, it gets out there.
01:49:39.000 That's what I mean.
01:49:40.000 Through your podcast, people know, right?
01:49:42.000 They know that you're doing that kind of stuff.
01:49:43.000 It's the power that you have.
01:49:45.000 I mean, even just the first couple times you retweeted me when I was building my Twitters, like up a couple thousand followers because I retweeted.
01:49:51.000 It's like, boom.
01:49:52.000 People are like, oh, it's a union guy.
01:49:53.000 And then it goes.
01:49:54.000 That's awesome.
01:49:55.000 Beautiful.
01:49:55.000 Yeah, so like the first time you retweeted me because I'm like, check out this article.
01:49:58.000 And you're like, yeah, I retweeted my phone all day.
01:50:00.000 I was like, what's wrong?
01:50:01.000 I'm like, Twitter.
01:50:02.000 That's when I finally got into it.
01:50:03.000 I was like, oh, I see how this works now and started going through it.
01:50:06.000 Create a little community.
01:50:08.000 I mean, for the most part, and this is not bullshit, almost all the tweets I get are positive.
01:50:13.000 You do get a lot of positive people.
01:50:15.000 They're really nice people, and you sort of can kind of cultivate that.
01:50:18.000 I mean, you're going to run across the occasional grumpy pants.
01:50:22.000 On a smaller level, we did that for the union.
01:50:25.000 I mean, we built this Facebook page with no money or anything like the studios have that has like 40,000 people that follow it.
01:50:30.000 That's nice.
01:50:31.000 And, you know, they always, like when, you know, right now we're...
01:50:35.000 Well, there's a real meme to it.
01:50:37.000 Excuse me, Ari Shaffir.
01:50:39.000 What's going on?
01:50:39.000 Dressed like a crazy person.
01:50:41.000 Just walking in on a podcast.
01:50:43.000 What's up, brother?
01:50:43.000 Come have a seat, man.
01:50:44.000 Jump in.
01:50:45.000 What the hell is up with you?
01:50:48.000 Ari Shaffir, ladies and gentlemen.
01:50:50.000 What the hell is up with you?
01:50:51.000 My man.
01:50:52.000 My man.
01:50:53.000 We met in Vancouver.
01:50:55.000 Hey, what's up, dude?
01:50:56.000 Is this podcast over?
01:50:58.000 What the fuck's going on?
01:50:59.000 It's only 9.15.
01:51:00.000 Yeah, we usually start at 9.30.
01:51:02.000 Okay, that's cool.
01:51:04.000 Ari, sit down and join us, man.
01:51:06.000 So you have a Kickstarter for your new film, which is The Culture High, and they can find it at kickstarter.com.
01:51:13.000 And is this trailer worth checking out?
01:51:15.000 Yeah, the trailer's really good.
01:51:16.000 We worked hard on it.
01:51:17.000 How could you say, is it worth checking out?
01:51:19.000 Well, I didn't know if it was a very long trailer.
01:51:21.000 It's only like four minutes.
01:51:23.000 Silly.
01:51:25.000 Thank you.
01:51:55.000 economic, scientific, and political operations.
01:51:59.000 Its preparations are concealed, not published.
01:52:02.000 Its mistakes are buried, not headlined.
01:52:06.000 Its dissenters are silenced, not praised.
01:52:09.000 No expenditure is questioned.
01:52:11.000 No rumor is printed.
01:52:13.000 No secret is revealed.
01:52:18.000 In 2007, a small independent documentary unveiling the breakdown of marijuana prohibition entered the North American film festival circuit.
01:52:27.000 The union, the business behind getting high, would find itself accepted into 33 international film festivals in the span of a year.
01:52:34.000 The film went on to win numerous awards and garner critical acclaim across the globe.
01:52:39.000 With little to no support from big studios, the union stormed the internet round reaching out to millions of viewers.
01:52:46.000 Witnessing this overwhelming response, the filmmakers took it upon themselves to evolve the documentary from a simple motion picture into the beginnings of a movement.
01:52:54.000 And so, the Union's social networking Facebook page was born, quickly growing to serve over 35,000 active users.
01:53:03.000 Armed with groundbreaking numbers on what many had said to be a dead topic, distributors and broadcasters were forced to take notice.
01:53:11.000 Five years after conception, the union and the issue of cannabis prohibition was launched into the mainstream as the film was released into video stores, universities, and media outlets across the world.
01:53:23.000 With newfound exposure, the film went on to claim the attention of Canada's highest level of government as it was chosen to be screened on Parliament Hill in order to educate senators and members of Parliament on the ramifications of marijuana prohibition.
01:53:36.000 The rest is history.
01:53:40.000 Now in the twilight of a public shift of awareness, the Union's makers have set into motion plans to create what they hope to be the most prolific and relevant marijuana documentary to date.
01:53:50.000 The follow-up film to the Union, entitled The Culture High.
01:53:55.000 Having had six years to grow, to adopt new stories, new heroes, new villains, and an entirely evolved insight into society and who we are as a human species, The Culture High will break down the boundaries that prevent marijuana prohibition From being stripped down to its very core.
01:54:12.000 Are we least effective when lost in the emotion of group mentality?
01:54:16.000 Has the emergence of the internet equalized the political playing field?
01:54:20.000 The Culture High will raise the stakes with some of today's biggest celebrities, gain access to previously unattainable footage, and reveal incredibly moving testimonies from both sides of the spectrum.
01:54:30.000 The Culture High is the documentary that will tear into the very fiber of the longest fought war of our time.
01:54:39.000 But in order to make this documentary come to fruition, we need your support.
01:54:43.000 By August 1st, we must raise $190,000 to kickstart the remaining funding necessary to produce this film.
01:54:51.000 What we seek from you is not charity, but the pre-pledged support of your copy of the film.
01:54:56.000 It's that simple.
01:54:57.000 You pre-purchase your DVD copy of The Culture High for $35, and by doing so, you will give the film the ability to be made in the first place.
01:55:06.000 That's brilliant.
01:55:08.000 That's a great idea.
01:55:10.000 The Kickstarter thing alone is the way to go for all these projects.
01:55:15.000 Well, this is a great way to do it because you have a great track record.
01:55:19.000 Like I said, your first piece.
01:55:20.000 If you haven't seen it, folks, go out and get it.
01:55:22.000 And if you can, if you're not fucking starving, please pay for it.
01:55:27.000 Because Adam's a good dude.
01:55:29.000 And it's a really well-done piece.
01:55:30.000 And it took a long time.
01:55:31.000 I know you...
01:55:32.000 It was a labor of love for a long time.
01:55:34.000 Four years in total.
01:55:35.000 Yeah.
01:55:35.000 You know, I never thought about it, man.
01:55:36.000 We did it, and then it was a while after that before it actually got released.
01:55:40.000 Like, how long was it?
01:55:41.000 Two years.
01:55:41.000 We were done in 2007, but it didn't come out until 2009 because we couldn't get a distribution deal.
01:55:46.000 We didn't know how, right?
01:55:47.000 It was our first time.
01:55:48.000 Now, this time, with the culture high, we already have a theatrical deal in place.
01:55:53.000 Well, we have to pay for it.
01:55:54.000 That's what the gap is.
01:55:54.000 Are you going to be in the movie movies?
01:55:56.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:55:57.000 In America or in Canada?
01:55:58.000 No, no, America.
01:55:59.000 We've got Phase 4 films that picked up Kevin Smith's Red State.
01:56:02.000 So, like, instead of Abraham Lincoln, the Vampire Hunter, you could go see the culture high.
01:56:07.000 We'll get only two days unless it sells out, and then it'll stay a week.
01:56:11.000 But are you going to be able to go to, like, those mainstream cinemas that, like, play...
01:56:15.000 It will.
01:56:15.000 They distribute.
01:56:16.000 Like, it'll be with, like, say, whoever it's AMC or whatever, and then they'll pick their certain locations.
01:56:20.000 Does that work, though?
01:56:21.000 I mean, if you have a crazy, you know, controversial documentary like that, does that get censored?
01:56:26.000 No, it doesn't get censored.
01:56:28.000 But the hard part is getting the money for it.
01:56:30.000 I'm saying, does it get censored?
01:56:32.000 Does it keep you from being in certain malls?
01:56:36.000 Oh, definitely.
01:56:37.000 There's certain countries that wouldn't even touch my thing because of its subject.
01:56:40.000 Certain territories are just like, no, it's about that.
01:56:42.000 In Canada?
01:56:43.000 No, not in Canada.
01:56:44.000 But there's certain markets.
01:56:45.000 It would never be on Air Canada's flights, right?
01:56:48.000 I wasn't sure if you said counties or countries.
01:56:50.000 No, countries.
01:56:51.000 Like territories, right?
01:56:52.000 Like if you sell certain parts of Europe...
01:56:54.000 That's where I saw it in the distribution game.
01:56:56.000 I'm like, wow, so there are going to be certain types of films that just don't get out there.
01:56:59.000 So that culture won't see it.
01:57:00.000 They know if it's an action or whatever, certain ones are just not allowed.
01:57:04.000 Certain characters are like, don't even sell me that.
01:57:05.000 I'm looking for family movies.
01:57:06.000 But could you put it in like an AMC multiplex cinema?
01:57:09.000 That's what we're doing.
01:57:10.000 In America.
01:57:11.000 Yes.
01:57:11.000 With all the regular movies, like Avengers and right next to it, the culture guy.
01:57:14.000 It might be one of the small, like say there's two AMCs, it'll probably be the smaller one.
01:57:18.000 And one of them smells like feet, and that's the one.
01:57:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:57:22.000 That's the one.
01:57:24.000 But still, for a doc, that's so hard to do.
01:57:27.000 Right, yeah.
01:57:28.000 But if you do them like this, like what you guys have done, where you build this community that follows, and you make sure that the few dates that they come out are targeted in targeted areas, and the people go see them, then it makes sense.
01:57:38.000 Well, you know, this is also a community that would want to support something like this.
01:57:43.000 So, you know, them being able to see that video and say, hey, man, I would love to get a copy of that and, you know, have the pride and it's a nice feeling to know that, you know, you purchased something that you actually want and you allowed something to get made because of the fact that you purchased it in advance.
01:57:58.000 You gave, like, you know, a vote of trust, which is, you know, I mean, you're an honorable man.
01:58:04.000 It's a worthy investment.
01:58:06.000 I know you're going to put out a good product.
01:58:07.000 So it's cool.
01:58:08.000 The way you're doing it, I like it.
01:58:09.000 I like it.
01:58:10.000 It's a good sentiment.
01:58:12.000 Well, in our first eight days, we've raised $58,000.
01:58:16.000 Damn!
01:58:16.000 In the first eight days.
01:58:17.000 That's amazing.
01:58:18.000 The support has been phenomenal.
01:58:20.000 Even it shocked everyone.
01:58:21.000 Even Todd was like, dude, he's like, everybody in the marijuana industry.
01:58:25.000 How much do you need to make total?
01:58:26.000 $190,000.
01:58:27.000 $190,000.
01:58:28.000 And you're already at?
01:58:29.000 We've got 35 days to go.
01:58:30.000 We're at almost $57,000.
01:58:32.000 There it is right there.
01:58:33.000 Do you have an arbitrary number of days to go on this thing?
01:58:35.000 Is that what it is?
01:58:36.000 Kickstarter makes it you have to do it because then you can just always be kind of accepting money from Google.
01:58:40.000 Oh, right, right, right.
01:58:41.000 And then it's all or nothing, right?
01:58:43.000 We have to hit the whole goal or we get nothing.
01:58:45.000 When you get to 190, do you stop?
01:58:47.000 Pardon?
01:58:47.000 When you get to 190, do you stop?
01:58:48.000 No, you can go over, which is great.
01:58:50.000 If we go over, then we can put it into more theaters, right?
01:58:53.000 Are there laws now on begging for money on the internet?
01:58:57.000 Do they have very specific laws, like you're not allowed to fuck people over too much, asking for money on the internet?
01:59:04.000 Probably can't defraud people.
01:59:05.000 Yeah.
01:59:05.000 That's the one thing, and then just go to Vegas.
01:59:08.000 Yeah, you can't probably defraud them.
01:59:10.000 Well, that's the thing, is Kickstarter has a good way that they have to approve your project and approve you.
01:59:14.000 You don't just get to put it up there.
01:59:15.000 Well, you could also make a Kickstarter that will fund my lifestyle for a year.
01:59:19.000 Yeah, if you did a good enough video and people wanted to do it.
01:59:22.000 There's not just for docs.
01:59:23.000 There's people that are creating video games or they have a new watch and you pre-buy the watch and you get it.
01:59:29.000 I have a Kickstarter to make a new Kickstarter type kind of website.
01:59:33.000 How long before these Google Lenses, these Google Goggles will be a subscription service where you can pay to look through someone's eyes?
01:59:43.000 Hopefully soon.
01:59:44.000 That's going to happen, right?
01:59:45.000 Technology keeps happening.
01:59:46.000 How much would it be worth to look through Tom Cruise's eyes for a day?
01:59:49.000 I would pay $2,000.
01:59:51.000 $20,000.
01:59:52.000 Well, you know some celebrity would sell that for sure, right?
01:59:54.000 How much is a gay porn cost?
01:59:55.000 I would take a chance.
01:59:57.000 I would take a chance that the day I tune in is the day he decides to just break his fast and suck a cock.
02:00:06.000 Wouldn't it be nice if he could just come out?
02:00:08.000 Wouldn't it be beautiful?
02:00:10.000 Do you think he's gay?
02:00:11.000 Oh, Borat made fun of him when he's like, oh, I realized all these major guys are straight, right?
02:00:16.000 And it showed guys that clearly have reputations for Boston.
02:00:19.000 It's so weird, man.
02:00:20.000 Remember when Rock Hudson was gay?
02:00:22.000 Yeah.
02:00:22.000 And it was like, what?
02:00:23.000 Devastating to people.
02:00:24.000 And then afterwards it was like, oh yeah, of course.
02:00:26.000 And I gotta tell you, if Tom Cruise is not gay, he is the victim of the worst fucking horrendous smear campaign ever.
02:00:33.000 Him and Travolta.
02:00:34.000 And you've just become a part of it.
02:00:35.000 Well, I'm denying that part right now and I'm apologizing for my ignorance.
02:00:40.000 How do I know what the fuck he does?
02:00:41.000 Norton had a great joke about it.
02:00:43.000 About Travolta reaching out and grabbing that guy's cock.
02:00:46.000 First he fondled his balls.
02:00:48.000 The guy said, first he touched my balls.
02:00:49.000 And then he reached out and grabbed my...
02:00:51.000 And then?
02:00:52.000 What are you talking about?
02:00:53.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
02:00:54.000 And then minutes later.
02:00:56.000 That's what he said.
02:00:58.000 And then minutes later.
02:00:58.000 What do you mean minutes later?
02:00:59.000 The fuck are you talking about minutes later?
02:01:00.000 You still in the room, you asshole?
02:01:02.000 The guy just grabbed your dick.
02:01:04.000 Norton was on the last podcast.
02:01:05.000 He was...
02:01:06.000 Fucking amazing.
02:01:07.000 My friend listened to it and said it was hilarious.
02:01:08.000 I'm so happy that Norton exists.
02:01:10.000 He's one of those guys.
02:01:11.000 I'm so happy there's a Norton.
02:01:12.000 He was so funny.
02:01:14.000 When he was going over his different perversions, I was crying laughing.
02:01:18.000 He's so entertaining to me.
02:01:20.000 The way he's so honest about it and the way he relishes in it.
02:01:24.000 You're getting to experience it through him.
02:01:26.000 How he liked girls' asses.
02:01:28.000 Just a little stinky.
02:01:29.000 Just a little.
02:01:29.000 Not a terrible smell.
02:01:31.000 Just a little smell.
02:01:32.000 I like a little smell.
02:01:33.000 He's so funny.
02:01:34.000 I like underarms.
02:01:36.000 He likes the little feet smell.
02:01:38.000 He likes when a girl's feet smell a little bit.
02:01:40.000 I would love Adrian.
02:01:43.000 He's a crazy guy, man.
02:01:44.000 I love him.
02:01:45.000 It's so nice that there's a guy like Jim Norton.
02:01:48.000 Where would you be without comedians, R. Shapiro?
02:01:50.000 Without comedians?
02:01:51.000 Yeah, if you were forced to hang out with the average folk.
02:01:56.000 If you didn't have a guy like Jim Norton in your life.
02:01:59.000 If you didn't have a guy like Joey Diaz in your life.
02:02:04.000 I don't know.
02:02:05.000 I'd just be bored.
02:02:06.000 You ever stop and think about that?
02:02:07.000 I realized this recently.
02:02:08.000 I thought of this yesterday, I think, where I was like, I don't really have any friends that aren't comedians.
02:02:12.000 Wow.
02:02:12.000 I gotta make some friend friends.
02:02:14.000 I have jiu-jitsu friends.
02:02:16.000 I have quite a few friends that aren't comedians.
02:02:18.000 You hang out with them or just at jiu-jitsu?
02:02:20.000 Well, at jiu-jitsu.
02:02:20.000 Well, some of them I hang out with them.
02:02:22.000 And then I have some pool friends that are just...
02:02:27.000 What the fuck is that?
02:02:28.000 Oh, the Nazis looking at you, man.
02:02:30.000 The Nazi zombie zoned in on our Jewish friend, Ari Shafir.
02:02:35.000 How rude of the Nazi zombie.
02:02:38.000 This is creepy, man.
02:02:41.000 Imagine if that shit was real life.
02:02:43.000 Imagine if that was what you had to deal with out in the streets.
02:02:46.000 Just this?
02:02:47.000 Nazi zombies?
02:02:47.000 Just fucking Nazi zombies everywhere, man.
02:02:49.000 Trying to eat you.
02:02:50.000 We're so lucky.
02:02:51.000 We're so soft.
02:02:52.000 Everywhere we go, we just drive around in our cars, listen to satellite radio.
02:02:57.000 Complain if our internet's not fast enough on our phone.
02:03:00.000 What the fuck?
02:03:01.000 Meanwhile, we could be living in that movie.
02:03:04.000 What's that TV show?
02:03:06.000 The Matrix.
02:03:06.000 Walking Dead?
02:03:07.000 Walking Dead.
02:03:08.000 That could be real, man.
02:03:09.000 It could have happened ten minutes ago.
02:03:10.000 We just don't know it yet.
02:03:12.000 Do you know...
02:03:13.000 I'm sorry.
02:03:14.000 Do you know him?
02:03:15.000 Yeah, we met once at a restaurant.
02:03:16.000 We met in Vancouver.
02:03:17.000 Okay.
02:03:17.000 When you guys did Yuck Yucks that time.
02:03:18.000 Yeah.
02:03:19.000 That place is awesome.
02:03:20.000 What is it called now?
02:03:21.000 Didn't you just do that recently?
02:03:22.000 Sell it the fuck out!
02:03:23.000 R.I. Spear!
02:03:24.000 It's great.
02:03:25.000 It's called...
02:03:26.000 Comedy Mix?
02:03:27.000 Yes.
02:03:27.000 Comedy Mix.
02:03:28.000 What happened to your hair?
02:03:28.000 R.I. Spear pummeled that place.
02:03:30.000 You have a chaplain.
02:03:31.000 He's looking sexy.
02:03:32.000 R.I. Spear's looking sexy.
02:03:33.000 That's what happened.
02:03:34.000 Zombie Hitler here.
02:03:36.000 That's what happened.
02:03:37.000 He's just being the fabulous...
02:03:40.000 Ari Shaffir.
02:03:41.000 You're fabulous as fuck, dude.
02:03:43.000 Look at you.
02:03:43.000 You're rocking it.
02:03:44.000 I love it.
02:03:45.000 It's so creepy.
02:03:46.000 I like what you're doing.
02:03:46.000 It's perfect.
02:03:47.000 Just go straight to nothing?
02:03:49.000 Not fucking around for three days?
02:03:51.000 Yeah.
02:03:51.000 You need to hang out at Starbucks and just sit there and read something.
02:03:54.000 Have you been doing some road gigs, man?
02:03:57.000 Yeah, I'm going to Ottawa where you just showed in your documentary.
02:04:01.000 I'll be at that place.
02:04:02.000 Nice.
02:04:03.000 It's beautiful there in the summer.
02:04:04.000 And the Irish Fear will also be with me and Duncan Trussell in Calgary.
02:04:08.000 And I think that is, what is that, July 20th?
02:04:11.000 It's July 20th is the date.
02:04:13.000 And then the next day starts Shroomfest 2012. Oh, snap.
02:04:17.000 Who's fighting in Calgary?
02:04:19.000 The UFC and Shroomtech together.
02:04:21.000 Shroomfest.
02:04:22.000 Bring your battle ropes.
02:04:24.000 Wait a minute.
02:04:25.000 Bringing it back to sure.
02:04:26.000 Yeah, those will give you very different performance enhancements there, I think.
02:04:30.000 I expect everyone at the UFC to be on mushrooms.
02:04:32.000 Every fighter must test positive or you're queer.
02:04:37.000 Can you imagine?
02:04:38.000 If there was like a day that you had to do it, no matter what.
02:04:42.000 Everything you do, the whole culture just agrees.
02:04:44.000 There's only one way to get through this.
02:04:46.000 100% of us have to do mushrooms on this day.
02:04:48.000 That way nobody's vulnerable, nobody drives around.
02:04:50.000 From the period of 12 noon to 8 p.m., there is no fucking activity done.
02:04:56.000 Get everything you have to get done before 12 noon, then everybody in the whole fucking city takes mushrooms.
02:05:01.000 Wow.
02:05:02.000 That would be amazing.
02:05:03.000 A beam of light would just go straight up to heaven.
02:05:05.000 Yeah.
02:05:05.000 Yeah, we would all evolve a hundred years in one day.
02:05:09.000 A hundred years.
02:05:10.000 Remember how nice people were after 9-11?
02:05:13.000 How like everybody was like, especially in New York, people were super friendly.
02:05:16.000 They like jolted a bolt of humanity into people.
02:05:20.000 Like they wanted to be kind.
02:05:21.000 They wanted to appreciate each other because they really did realize that, wow, we really are at war and fucked up things can happen at any moment right now.
02:05:27.000 Just hug somebody and say you love them and be nice and be friendly.
02:05:31.000 It did unite the nation for a while, for sure.
02:05:35.000 The Mushroom Day would be like that times a million.
02:05:38.000 Yeah, it would.
02:05:39.000 It would be like that times...
02:05:39.000 And I'm not bullshitting.
02:05:41.000 If people who haven't...
02:05:42.000 And people who don't agree with me, the only reason why you don't agree with me is if you've never done mushrooms.
02:05:46.000 Because if you did do mushrooms and you thought about it and you thought of how crazy an experience it was and how much it is a shared experience when you deal with other people that do mushrooms...
02:05:56.000 Drink?
02:05:57.000 No, no, drink.
02:05:58.000 I just realized that you were doing the mushroom talk.
02:06:01.000 Any mushroom talk at all is drink?
02:06:03.000 No, no, no.
02:06:03.000 Everyone needs to do mushrooms.
02:06:05.000 I think together one day, it's not going to hurt anybody.
02:06:08.000 That would be the greatest holiday of all time.
02:06:10.000 One day, the whole population does mushrooms.
02:06:13.000 In the meantime, 2012, July 21st, 22nd, or 23rd.
02:06:17.000 Shazam.
02:06:18.000 So the Mayan calendar was off by several months, bitches.
02:06:22.000 The portal will be open July 21st.
02:06:25.000 Where will you be?
02:06:27.000 We're doing a Shroom Fest show in Montreal.
02:06:28.000 Oh, Jesus Christ, son.
02:06:30.000 What are you doing?
02:06:32.000 Montreal's a cool city.
02:06:33.000 You're going to lose Ari that weekend?
02:06:35.000 Me and Brandon.
02:06:36.000 And then a bunch of other people doing mushrooms.
02:06:37.000 I think the Canada ones.
02:06:39.000 I've got a couple more coming up, too, if you want to do any more of them.
02:06:42.000 I love Canada.
02:06:43.000 You want to do Toronto?
02:06:45.000 I'm going to be there at the same time.
02:06:47.000 Oh!
02:06:48.000 Oh shit, son!
02:06:49.000 So is Tom and Brendan.
02:06:51.000 So you have a show at the same day that I have my show?
02:06:54.000 I think around the same time.
02:06:55.000 Do you think you could bolt over from one to the other and do both places?
02:06:58.000 Probably.
02:06:59.000 Would they get mad at you?
02:07:00.000 As long as they don't announce it.
02:07:01.000 Whoops!
02:07:02.000 It's on the internet!
02:07:04.000 Nobody heard it.
02:07:07.000 Either way, I can't get Joey up there, but I'll come regardless to hang out.
02:07:12.000 Yeah, it should be amazing, man.
02:07:13.000 That Massey Hall is the fucking coolest old building, too, man.
02:07:17.000 It's a really historical place in Toronto.
02:07:20.000 It's one of those places where you find out other people that have played there, and you're like, wow.
02:07:24.000 I don't even feel like I should be allowed to walk around here, man.
02:07:28.000 Forget about it.
02:07:28.000 I actually go on stage.
02:07:29.000 It's just like a historical monument.
02:07:31.000 That's how I felt at Parliament Hill.
02:07:33.000 I thought it was a joke.
02:07:34.000 I thought at any time they were going to come out and say, okay, we punked you.
02:07:36.000 Did they laugh at my shit?
02:07:38.000 Man, they loved it.
02:07:39.000 They thought it was hilarious.
02:07:40.000 Did they laugh when I was talking shit?
02:07:41.000 Yes.
02:07:41.000 Did you leave in all my bad words?
02:07:42.000 Everything.
02:07:43.000 You played the union for Parliament?
02:07:45.000 Yeah, in Parliament Hill.
02:07:46.000 In the clip there, we're in a square room.
02:07:49.000 You're a bad motherfucker.
02:07:51.000 That's amazing.
02:07:52.000 Me and Brett were just waiting to get attacked.
02:07:54.000 And then when we start talking about politicians and kind of the corruption, how it works, we're like, ooh, how are they going to...
02:07:58.000 But they were giggling and laughing.
02:08:00.000 Wow.
02:08:00.000 Wow.
02:08:01.000 They were probably all on drugs.
02:08:02.000 No, no, now, Erwin Kotler.
02:08:03.000 I smoke pot right outside there and I got really nervous.
02:08:07.000 That's hilarious.
02:08:08.000 Trust me, the building, when you walk in, the security was worse than the airport.
02:08:11.000 It actually picked up the titanium in my jaw.
02:08:14.000 Wow.
02:08:15.000 Right?
02:08:15.000 So they were like, oh, beep, beep.
02:08:16.000 Did it pick up the steel in your balls?
02:08:18.000 No, it didn't pick that up.
02:08:20.000 That's that new adamantium shit.
02:08:22.000 Undetectable.
02:08:25.000 It's amazing that you pulled that off, man.
02:08:27.000 It's amazing that seeing that, seeing those people sitting there watching that video, it's really bizarre to me.
02:08:33.000 To see my face on that screen is really strange.
02:08:36.000 That's a strange thing.
02:08:37.000 Trust me.
02:08:37.000 For us, too, sitting there right next to me, I had an MP right next to me, three conservatives over here, Senator Art A. Because I'm going to be honest with you, man.
02:08:44.000 When you came over to my house, you were friends with Todd.
02:08:46.000 I'm like, who the fuck's going to watch this thing?
02:08:48.000 I'm like, yeah, I'll do your documentary.
02:08:49.000 This would be just like all the other documentaries I did that nobody saw.
02:08:52.000 Yeah.
02:08:53.000 I did like 20 of those things.
02:08:55.000 Nobody...
02:08:56.000 I probably said the same fucking thing.
02:08:57.000 There's probably some dude who's got some...
02:08:59.000 Over 20 copies in circulation.
02:09:00.000 Shit on the cutting floor somewhere from some other shitty documentary that I did where I said the exact same shit.
02:09:04.000 I'm so repetitive.
02:09:05.000 It's ridiculous.
02:09:06.000 When it comes to that subject...
02:09:08.000 That's why you need to do mushrooms.
02:09:09.000 Nerf the world, bitch!
02:09:10.000 It also comes...
02:09:12.000 It clicks.
02:09:13.000 It's all in how you edit it, too, right?
02:09:14.000 Yeah, I know.
02:09:15.000 You did a brilliant job.
02:09:16.000 You guys did an amazing job.
02:09:17.000 You really put it together perfect.
02:09:19.000 Listen, fuckheads...
02:09:20.000 I love you guys.
02:09:21.000 I don't really mean to call you fuckheads.
02:09:23.000 I say that like I treat you like I treat us.
02:09:26.000 This thing's got to end at some time, and then now is that time.
02:09:30.000 So Adam Skor, you, sir, are the shit.
02:09:32.000 You did a fucking tremendous job.
02:09:33.000 You took the ball.
02:09:34.000 You ran with it.
02:09:35.000 You did an amazing job, man.
02:09:37.000 Let's smoke some pot now.
02:09:38.000 That's a good idea, Ari Shafir.
02:09:39.000 You did a really incredible documentary, and I can't wait to see this.
02:09:42.000 The culture high.
02:09:43.000 It's going to be badass.
02:09:44.000 But you're going to be in it, right?
02:09:45.000 Fuck yeah.
02:09:46.000 Son!
02:09:47.000 It goes without asking.
02:09:48.000 We should do something from here.
02:09:50.000 We'll do it about the podcast.
02:09:52.000 We'll do it.
02:09:54.000 We'll interject some podcast footage in it.
02:09:57.000 And we'll promote it through the podcast, too.
02:09:59.000 I'll help you out.
02:09:59.000 Man, you're awesome.
02:10:00.000 Holla!
02:10:02.000 Spread the word, buddy.
02:10:03.000 Spread the word, man.
02:10:04.000 You're doing an awesome job of just doing that.
02:10:06.000 Getting that real information out there, the truth out there.
02:10:09.000 And, you know, it's not about hippies, folks.
02:10:11.000 It's about fucking personal liberties, and we've been co-opted by shit corporations that don't really give a fuck about you.
02:10:16.000 And we need to recognize that.
02:10:17.000 It's not patriotic to support that.
02:10:19.000 It's unpatriotic.
02:10:20.000 It's tough sometimes to buck up and say the situation's fucked.
02:10:24.000 But the people that are going to benefit, it's not just going to be people like us that want to smoke weed.
02:10:29.000 It's going to be those people that are suppressing people, too.
02:10:31.000 Because it shouldn't be within the law to allow them to suppress people.
02:10:34.000 It is, in fact, an injustice.
02:10:37.000 It's a terrible thing where people are allowed to tell other people what they can and can't do that doesn't hurt anybody else.
02:10:42.000 And when you're doing it because there's some sort of a financial gain that you're allowed to make some sort of a loophole judgment and make money from that, that's wrong.
02:10:50.000 You know it's wrong, and I know it's wrong.
02:10:52.000 And the sooner we get you off this evil tit, the better your own personal life would be.
02:10:57.000 Because I guarantee you, if you're running around out there making money off of keeping weed illegal, you're a cunt.
02:11:01.000 You live a cunt life, and you hate yourself.
02:11:04.000 Okay?
02:11:04.000 Because you realize you're doing something really creepy, and you're stopping progress.
02:11:08.000 And if you, in fact, stop doing that, and instead, embrace the psychedelic experience.
02:11:13.000 Instead, take a fucking yoga class.
02:11:15.000 Go work out before you open your mouth in the morning.
02:11:17.000 Alright?
02:11:18.000 Get your shit together, bitch!
02:11:20.000 It's not our fault that we can handle it.
02:11:23.000 Alright?
02:11:24.000 Step the fuck up!
02:11:26.000 And follow Adam Scorgie on Twitter.
02:11:28.000 His real name is S-C-O-R-G-I-E, but he thinks you're retarded.
02:11:34.000 So he spells it different.
02:11:36.000 He goes S-C-O-R-E and then a big G. You were brilliant.
02:11:43.000 You did it phonetically.
02:11:44.000 Well, it was because I have Scorgie Productions, right?
02:11:47.000 So then I kept that...
02:11:48.000 Oh, that's your production company.
02:11:50.000 Makes it slightly less clever.
02:11:52.000 Not because I'm a G, but just also it's the only Twitter handle I could get.
02:11:56.000 The other one I'd used on the union one by accident, so I had to use that one.
02:12:00.000 Oh, but you still have the union on Twitter as well?
02:12:02.000 Can they follow that as well?
02:12:03.000 They can follow that as well, and then also the culture is on there already.
02:12:06.000 Nice, nice.
02:12:06.000 And when are you planning on getting the ball fully rolling with this culture high thing?
02:12:10.000 Well, August 1st is when the deadline ends for the Kickstarter run, and then we go into production in September.
02:12:16.000 Powerful production in September.
02:12:18.000 Well, Brian and I hope to be a part of this.
02:12:20.000 Correct, Brian?
02:12:21.000 Yes.
02:12:21.000 Are we down?
02:12:22.000 Definitely.
02:12:23.000 100%, bitch.
02:12:25.000 Ari Shafir.
02:12:26.000 Powerful Ari Shafir.
02:12:27.000 Please follow him.
02:12:28.000 Smuggles weed all over the country.
02:12:30.000 How dare you?
02:12:31.000 Oh, Ari.
02:12:32.000 Lies.
02:12:33.000 I can tell you all about it.
02:12:34.000 Me and Ari just added a new day to the San Diego show.
02:12:37.000 How dare you?
02:12:38.000 What day is this?
02:12:39.000 Is this Thursday?
02:12:40.000 Yes.
02:12:40.000 So Thursday, Friday.
02:12:41.000 I will be there on Friday.
02:12:43.000 I do not know if I'll be there on Saturday.
02:12:44.000 Right now, it doesn't look like it, but I'll be there on Friday.
02:12:46.000 You're going to be there on Saturday?
02:12:47.000 Yeah, we'll do that at American Comedy Company.
02:12:48.000 I'm gonna go see the Comic Con.
02:12:50.000 I've never been to Comic Con, man.
02:12:51.000 It's like Mecca.
02:12:52.000 I gotta go there before I die.
02:12:53.000 Before the Mayans correctly predict Nibiru's presence in our atmosphere.
02:13:00.000 Do you believe in Anunnaki?
02:13:02.000 I've heard your theories about it.
02:13:03.000 I got no theories, son.
02:13:05.000 I got no theories.
02:13:07.000 Did you see Prometheus?
02:13:08.000 Yes, I did.
02:13:08.000 It was good, eh?
02:13:09.000 I did not think it was good.
02:13:10.000 You didn't like it?
02:13:11.000 No, I did not like it.
02:13:11.000 Man, people are split on that thing.
02:13:13.000 Man, I like it.
02:13:14.000 I thought it was brilliant in moments, and I thoroughly enjoyed it for long chunks, but ultimately, as a whole, I felt like you got way too many cut-the-shit scenes for me.
02:13:24.000 Yeah, it was.
02:13:25.000 You fucked me with the fucking spaceship landing on the chick, and she's okay?
02:13:29.000 Yeah.
02:13:29.000 Sorry.
02:13:30.000 Spoiler.
02:13:32.000 Spoiler.
02:13:33.000 But I would see it again because I'm a retard and I love sci-fi movies and Ridley Scott is still God.
02:13:38.000 Yeah.
02:13:38.000 That's so fucking dorky to say someone is God.
02:13:41.000 Ozzy is God!
02:13:43.000 You know?
02:13:43.000 Ridley Scott is God.
02:13:45.000 He's an amazing director.
02:13:46.000 I'd love to talk to him about how...
02:13:47.000 How he fucks a fleshlight.
02:13:49.000 How that guy would love to be cuddled by the inside wall of the fleshlight.
02:13:55.000 Because, ladies and gentlemen, there is no better feeling...
02:13:58.000 The love of your friends is number one.
02:14:01.000 Family, right up there.
02:14:02.000 Then there's the fleshlight, folks.
02:14:04.000 It's like the best vagina you really could ever invent.
02:14:07.000 And if it just moved on its own, it would be too perfect, and that's all you would do all day.
02:14:11.000 You should be lucky that it's a manual thing.
02:14:14.000 The lazy cunt that I know you are, you know, you're going to give it a couple of thrusts, and then you're going to throw it in the corner and pass out.
02:14:20.000 Probably without even pulling your pants up, you sick fuck.
02:14:22.000 What if they had a fleshlight that, you know, the cousin it, that would do that, like, crawl over to you in the Oh yeah.
02:14:30.000 That would be fabulous.
02:14:32.000 And again you'd have guys never leave, right?
02:14:35.000 You would start feeling jealous, or rather you would start feeling guilty that you were doing this and this is no way to live your life, just getting sucked off every day by a robot.
02:14:44.000 Would you?
02:14:45.000 You're the most religious girl possible.
02:14:47.000 It would probably completely ruin your actual real sex life because you will completely disassociate sex from being like a physical need and instead it will become like this really heavy-duty emotional thing.
02:14:58.000 So you'll find some chick who's in the Fifty Shades of Grey and you'll find her and then together you guys could just slow kiss and you never come ever again.
02:15:09.000 And then we thank the fleshlight.
02:15:12.000 You go to JoeRogan.net and you enter in the code DaveRogan and you save yourself 15% off.
02:15:16.000 The number one sex toy for men.
02:15:18.000 Yee-haw!
02:15:19.000 I'm doing it all like a cowboy now.
02:15:22.000 Go to Onnit.com.
02:15:23.000 O-N-N-I-T. Get yourself some battle ropes.
02:15:26.000 Battle ropes is the latest thing.
02:15:28.000 The fucking latest goddamn fitness craze.
02:15:31.000 Crazy 40 foot long ropes that you swing around like a fucking savage...
02:15:36.000 Pirate-type character from a thousand years back!
02:15:40.000 And get yourself some kettlebells, too, so you can be a manly man.
02:15:43.000 And stop doing your bicep curls, you little bitch.
02:15:46.000 And if you're fat, just do a push-up at least.
02:15:48.000 Do some push-ups.
02:15:48.000 Well, you don't have to do anything, really.
02:15:50.000 Some of my best friends don't work out at all.
02:15:52.000 Do whatever the fuck you want to do.
02:15:53.000 That's all I'm saying.
02:15:54.000 If you want to get down with the kettlebells, go to Onnit.com.
02:15:56.000 Do the best possible construction.
02:15:58.000 They will last you a lifetime.
02:16:01.000 Archaeologists 5,000 years from now will try to figure out what the fuck these things were in your basement, okay?
02:16:05.000 Because they're going to still be here.
02:16:08.000 It's hard to ship.
02:16:10.000 Oh, AlphaBrain.
02:16:12.000 Go buy some AlphaBrain, too.
02:16:14.000 What is that?
02:16:14.000 Go to Onnit.com and all your answers will be solved.
02:16:18.000 Thanks to Punch Drunk Entertainment.
02:16:21.000 Sucker Punch?
02:16:22.000 What am I... Fucking thing.
02:16:26.000 Sucker punch, is it?
02:16:27.000 This is sucker punch.
02:16:28.000 I don't know.
02:16:29.000 I'm calling it punch drunk.
02:16:30.000 That's me.
02:16:30.000 Punch drunk is my support.
02:16:31.000 Nobody's punched me for years and I'm still stupid.
02:16:33.000 This is the end of this podcast, ladies and gentlemen.
02:16:36.000 We want to thank you very much.
02:16:37.000 If you are podcast starved and you're like, God damn it, I wonder what those guys talked about right after that podcast is over.
02:16:44.000 We got another fucking podcast!
02:16:46.000 It starts any second now, and it is called the Ice House Chronicles, and it is only available on Death Squad.
02:16:54.000 If you go to iTunes and subscribe to Death Squad, or go to deathsquad.tv, and you can find the Vimeo links, and you can find all that good juicy shit.
02:17:03.000 If you want to watch it live, it'll be on this same channel, ustream.tv forward slash Joe Rogan.
02:17:08.000 Holla at your boy.
02:17:09.000 So the Ice House Chronicles.
02:17:11.000 Ari Shafir will be here.
02:17:12.000 Brian Redband will jump into the frame.
02:17:14.000 Who else?
02:17:15.000 Brendan Walsh.
02:17:17.000 Oh, my man!
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02:17:19.000 Randy Licky's here to talk to you.
02:17:20.000 Randy Licky wants to smack me, I heard.
02:17:23.000 Why?
02:17:24.000 This might be the end.
02:17:25.000 This might be like a Doors song.
02:17:27.000 Alright, we love you guys.
02:17:28.000 Thank you for everything, and we will see you as soon as possible.