In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast, the boys talk about nootropics and how they can improve your brain function. Joe talks about his own experience with nootropic supplements and the potential benefits they can have on your day to day life. The boys also talk about the pros and cons of taking nootropic drugs and whether or not you should be taking them. Joe also talks about the benefits to your memory and how it can be improved by nootropic medications like AlphaBrain, ShroomTech, and New Mood. Joe also gives us some tips and tricks on how to get the most out of your nootropic options and how to make sure you don't become an addict to them. Joe is a comedian, writer, podcaster, and podcaster. He's also a regular contributor to the New York Times and has his own podcast, Joe Rogans Experience, which you should definitely check out if you haven't already listened to it. Joe is one of the funniest people I've ever met and I really hope you do too! Thank you to Onnit for sponsoring this episode and for supporting the podcast. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE on Apple Podcasts and tell a friend about it! I'll be looking out for you in the next episode! Subscribe, Like, and Share it on Insta: and tell me what you think of it on your feed! and what a great podcast you're listening to and what you're looking forward to listening to next week! Cheers, Joe and the boys have a good day! XOXOzNnT Podcast, Cheers! - Thank you, Joe - Cheers. -Jon and the Crew <3 - Jon & the Crews - EJ & The Crews - Jon and the Jerks - Samir & the Boys - Mikey & the crew at The Rogans The Crew - The Crew at @ And the Crew at Onnit . & , and , ( ) Thanks to: , Shroom Tech Unfiltered, , & "The Rogans Podcast, - Jon and The Crew @ , Mikey, and AND Podcasts We got some Noobstance Podcast - & New Mood
00:01:03.000He suffered a lot of concussions and he started taking different nutrients that are designed to sort of stimulate your brain function and he created his own sort of blend of them.
00:02:00.000Because they say that people retain everything or usually a huge amount of what they see every day and that is just subconscious.
00:02:07.000So maybe what these things are doing or maybe what they're starting to be able to do Is to pull those memories straight forward because we have so much information in our mind.
00:02:30.000We're at the very, very beginning of something like this then.
00:02:33.000Well, there's been a bunch of different studies on all sorts of different nootropics and some really positive results are starting to come back.
00:02:42.000There's a new additive that we put into AlphaBrain.
00:02:45.000I don't even know the name of the new shit.
00:02:46.000If you're interested in any of this stuff, go to Onnit.com.
00:02:49.000That's O-N-N-I-T. It's all explained in detail.
00:02:52.000But whatever this new shit that we just put into AlphaBrain, that's the technical term for it.
00:03:07.000It makes me feel like the difference between what I take and I don't take it is sort of like the difference between not having a cup of coffee and having a cup of coffee, but not really.
00:03:17.000Because it's not like an addictive feeling.
00:03:52.000It's a fascinating subject and there's a lot of controversy but there's a lot of studies and a lot of very promising studies and we're going to do our own eventually.
00:04:00.000We're just formulating the final formulation of the blend and the most recent one is the one that I like the best.
00:04:11.000It's hard to tell the difference, to be honest with you.
00:04:13.000It's like, maybe I'm just eating better now, too.
00:04:17.000There's a lot of different things that come into factor when it comes to the way your brain works.
00:04:21.000And that's something that everybody needs to consider.
00:05:02.000You come into this world, you know, naked, defenseless.
00:05:06.000And when you see very elderly people, and I think this gives me a great respect for all that they've been through in life, a lot of times they need help or they can't Move or something like that.
00:05:15.000And they're dependent on somebody else to take care of them.
00:07:53.000I was just going to say, after the show, me and Joe won't crush that shit up, rolling the L. Yeah, what if that was the secret the whole time about this alpha brain and I didn't even know about it, that you're supposed to snort it?
00:08:18.000We're going to make some videos, too, because people keep asking the different exercises.
00:08:22.000What kettlebells are is an ancient Russian form of strength training.
00:08:28.000It's like a cannonball attached to a handle.
00:08:30.000It's the most manly shit you could ever be involved with in your life, okay?
00:08:33.000You're swinging around a fucking cannonball.
00:08:35.000And if it comes to working out, it's like, for me, I think it's the best strength training work that you could do when it comes to, like, real-world application.
00:09:05.000I know a dude that used to do nothing but those.
00:09:07.000And he was like, look, if I'm lifting something like this, this is like...
00:09:11.000If all I do is this and that, there's no power in my arm to pull something up like this unless I've been doing this with 40 pound weights for years.
00:09:20.000It definitely gave him a different type of strength than I've seen with other people.
00:10:01.000And the best thing about kettlebell exercises is you can do, with just one of these cannonballs, you can literally work out every muscle in your body.
00:10:09.000It's the kind of workout that you get.
00:10:10.000The only thing that's as exhausting is doing jujitsu.
00:10:41.000Anyway, go to Onnit.com and check it out.
00:10:43.000If you use the code name Rogan, you can save 10% off supplements, but we literally can't sell kettlebells any cheaper than we're sending them.
00:10:51.000We're basically sending cannonballs in the mail.
00:12:54.000My truth is the ark of the covenant buried in Ethiopia.
00:12:57.000Watch when you fuck away the Minneapolis Somalian.
00:13:00.000When I go home, the world I used to know is gone and I will live on my own.
00:13:03.000For what shall I profit a rapper with creative control?
00:13:06.000To sign a deal with the devil and lose his soul.
00:13:08.000My still porn first expression is cold.
00:13:13.000Subliminal racial supremacy Choking me quick like the bedtime stories of Joseph Smith Lynch mob gunning for me trying to murder my seeds The shorty put him in the Nile in the basket of reeds And now I stare into the future with a spiritual flashlight Wondering who the fuck was me in a past life Bad diet, fuck raw, die young, fast life Same as a crash flight that took off when the music died on your last night Tell them the truth and they call you a traitor Talk to them honestly That was badass.
00:14:00.000The mortis should be illegal instead of the people that were here before the Bible and all of its sequels.
00:14:04.000I speak to the detached and unrealistic that were born normal but turned socially autistic.
00:14:10.000We resisted Homeland Security's mission because I know what they really envisioned.
00:14:14.000I am the eye in the sky Looking at you I can read your mind I am the maker of rules Dealing with fools I can cheat your mind I am the eye in the sky Looking at you I can read your mind
00:14:43.000I am the maker of rules First of all, how badass is that lyric?
00:14:50.000I am the eye in the sky looking at you.
00:15:16.000Some people think that nothing's free, but that actually is free.
00:15:18.000You can go to ViperRecords.com and you don't have to fill out a stupid survey.
00:15:23.000You don't have to sit through a 15-second Vivo commercial.
00:15:27.000You press one button and then nine minutes later you have a 16-track album absolutely free by Mortal Technique featuring a lot of hip-hop underground greats and legends.
00:15:37.000We got Styles P from the Locks, Vinnie Pez, Poison Pen, Diabolic, Swayne Sever, Kier.
00:15:45.000I mean, I could just go on Dead Prayers.
00:16:30.000What made you decide to put it out for free?
00:16:32.000Well, I mean, it was at a time when I saw that people were struggling financially, economically, and I thought to myself, listen, what's more revolutionary as opposed to being an artist that just has stuff ghostwritten for him and then gives it out to people and gets angry when they download your terrible music?
00:16:49.000You know, what's more revolutionary than taking hardcore hip-hop from the streets and then music with a message, combining them, giving them to the people absolutely for free.
00:16:57.000Plus, they've been waiting so long on this other album I have called The Middle Passage that if I didn't give them something, I would have probably got killed.
00:17:04.000It is really, I mean, if you really think about it, it is the best thing.
00:17:08.000I mean, that's what we always feel about this podcast.
00:17:11.000That, you know, I would never want to charge for it.
00:17:13.000Like, part of the cool thing about it is that it's free.
00:18:35.000And I think there's a big difference in between being an independent artist and being in charge of everything that you have to do in order to be successful and then having, you know, a label babysit you through a 360 deal or something like that.
00:18:48.000I press up my own units and I have a distribution deal, which means that that's about as independent as we can possibly be without me, you know.
00:18:55.000I'm completely ignorant about the music business.
00:20:20.000To some extent, I think that's why they implemented the 360 deal, so they felt like they could eat off the shows as opposed to the dwindling record sales.
00:20:28.000When you say 360 deals, what does that mean?
00:20:29.000The 360 deal means that the label now collects on everything.
00:20:33.000The ancillary rights, you know, if your music is in a movie...
00:20:36.000If you do a show, they're getting half of the show.
00:21:06.000And I say to you, Joe, as a company, as a gigantic multinational conglomerate, I got this company about people who get on the internet and meet other people that are similar and they get to post their pictures.
00:21:19.000You're looking at me like, oh yeah, alright, well, how much is it going to sell?
00:21:23.000But let's say I set up something like MySpace, which is obviously now not in its former glory.
00:21:29.000But if I say, alright, well, I have this company, MySpace, and it has, I don't know, 20 million people on it signed up.
00:21:36.000Look at the advertising potential that we have here.
00:21:39.000Then I can sucker somebody like Rupert Murdoch into buying it for $500 million.
00:21:43.000And I think it's just the same thing in music.
00:21:45.000If you've already built up an independent fan base, if you have something that's completely your own, then you're coming to them with everything.
00:21:51.000And you're saying, listen, I don't need to give you more than just this.
00:21:55.000I will give you the small percentage, which is usually between 15% and 25%, for just distributing the product, making sure it's in all the stores.
00:22:05.000But isn't almost everything distributed through electronic media now?
00:25:56.000Apparently the tigers drink it and it makes them fucking crazy because it's water that's like salty.
00:26:02.000They really shouldn't be drinking and it makes them really incredibly irritated and it makes them super hyper aggressive.
00:26:07.000And they've been known to kill people like for sport.
00:26:11.000Like there's this one tiger killed these guys on a boat, swam out to the boat, killed a guy, dragged him to the shore, dropped off his body, jumped back in the water and he did it three times.
00:28:37.000Yeah, they're not exactly sure, but it's really dangerous, especially for women if they're pregnant.
00:28:42.000When women are pregnant, that's why they tell them never fuck with cat litter, don't touch a litter box, because if they get it and they get infected, it can seriously fuck up with the development of the child while it's in the woman's womb.
00:29:19.000And what it does is it fucks with the rats and it rewires the rats' immune or sexual reward system and has the rat sexually attracted to the smell of cat piss.
00:29:31.000Completely changes the rats' drive and hijacks his whole system.
00:30:06.000I don't think it's that bad, but there's a disproportionate amount of motorcycle victims that test positive for toxoplasma.
00:30:14.000And they think it also can delay reaction time on some people too.
00:30:19.000But there's also been a direct correlation between successful soccer teams and areas of infestation for toxoplasma.
00:30:27.000And they think it might actually make men produce more testosterone.
00:30:31.000So it's possible that it can trick your body into acting more aggressively, being more sexual, producing more testosterone, making you more impulsive.
00:30:39.000And here's where it gets really crazy.
00:30:42.000In England, in Europe, 80% of France is infested with toxoplasma.
00:30:48.00080% of the French people, people from France.
00:30:59.000Well, they are very violent people, Joe.
00:31:01.000I mean, you know what I think is unfair is when I heard the administration, the Republican administration under Bush, the way they lambasted and hammered the French simply because they didn't want to go to Iraq.
00:31:14.000And if you think about it, Remember when we had freedom fries?
00:31:44.000The Middle East was divided a long time ago through a treaty called Sykes-Picot, where the European nations decided that Turkey or the Ottoman Empire was the sick man of Europe, so they cut it up.
00:32:11.000You take care of your own problems there.
00:32:12.000If there's an issue over here where I'm getting money and I have the remnants of the Caract de Chevalier and all this legacy of intervention, because realistically, you look at the Crusades, they were run by Normans, by Frenchmen, by people who were maybe five, six generations away from a man called Roland Viking who invaded and then six generations away from a man called Roland Viking who invaded and then became So you're talking about an individual or a group of people who have been warring and killing from the very start.
00:32:39.000I mean, French people, they get away with it because you think of them in wine and poems.
00:33:56.000Well, you know, what's really fascinating, what a lot of people don't know, is most of North America was covered in a mile-high sheet of ice up until about 10,000 years ago.
00:34:04.000So when everybody was just balling it up in Europe and having a great time and Partying all throughout the world.
00:34:11.000Except for Central America, South America, where you find lots and lots of different peoples.
00:34:18.000Mostly they focus on Aztec, Maya, Inca, but there are so many other individuals.
00:34:23.000Like when I came back to Latin America, the Olmecs, you look at their shamans, their tradition of religion, their explanation of Of human society, their use of psychotropic drugs.
00:34:37.000Yes, they had a completely independent, advanced civilization.
00:34:41.000And that's what people aren't aware of.
00:34:42.000When you go back many, many thousands of years, what gets really interesting is...
00:34:46.000It's really hard to reach other people.
00:34:48.000So that was when people were developing very uniquely on their own.
00:34:53.000You know, cultures develop very uniquely like in their own little place.
00:34:59.000They weren't having like the constant intervention that we have from all over the world.
00:35:04.000So if you look at like What the advanced civilization of thousands of years ago in South America, rather, and you look at the Mayan civilization, like, what a fucking fascinating path those guys went down.
00:35:16.000I mean, what an amazing path these guys went down thousands and thousands of years ago because no one was fucking with them.
00:35:23.000Because this is what they came up with.
00:35:26.000What they came up with was incredible fucking stone structures that mirror the cosmos, and they were doing shit that nobody was thinking about in Europe.
00:35:35.000Nobody was thinking about the same time.
00:35:37.000Nobody was thinking about any of the fucking shit those guys were doing.
00:35:51.000On one level, I think that's pretty interesting.
00:35:54.000To even acknowledge for someone to say that there's extraterrestrial life.
00:35:59.000But at the same time, my question is this.
00:36:01.000Those developments happened over the course of hundreds of years, of thousands of years.
00:36:05.000We're looking at American society now that went from being in a fucking horse and buggy 150 years ago to now being on the moon and everybody's got a cell phone the size of a pack of Tic Tacs.
00:36:18.000Listen, if the aliens helped anybody, they helped people here in America.
00:41:54.000You know what's really crazy is that these people in South Africa have sharks, the great whites, on some sort of endangered list, so you're not supposed to be killing them.
00:42:02.000I mean, I read that, that they're thinking about lifting the ban because another one killed the fucking surfer recently.
00:42:06.000Like, apparently they're on some sort of endangered list.
00:42:09.000One surfer died as opposed to, like, the 100,000 or, like, 12 million sharks that we kill every year or something.
00:42:15.000Well, that's a pretty good record, but still, I say all sharks can suck my dick, and we should kill every one of them.
00:42:21.000I'm on team people, and I like surfing.
00:42:24.000And if there's anything out there that will cut me in half when I'm surfing, no.
00:42:28.000Not really interested in that thing sticking around.
00:43:02.000The fact that we do that, though, is a part of nature.
00:43:05.000I mean, it is our own human curiosity that leads us to fuck with things and remove things from the food chain and use our infinite wisdom to change the topography of the earth.
00:43:14.000But that is also a part of nature, because we are all nature, you know?
00:43:18.000Even if people say that, oh, plastic is unnatural, sort of, but no, it's natural.
00:43:56.000You know, when I'm 80, I'm gonna look 80 when I'm like 800. Yeah, I think the idea of natural is getting to be silly, and I think we have to look at it as organic and inorganic.
00:44:06.000Inorganic still being natural, but created by people.
00:45:41.000Yeah, where it's essentially show how there's a diffusion of responsibility when there's a large group of people acting towards a goal and that essentially the snowflake doesn't realize it's a part of an avalanche.
00:45:57.000You just feel like you're a person doing your job and meanwhile you've got commerce mixed up somehow or another in science and progress.
00:46:07.000And you've got commerce involved, so it's enforcing its own version of these things before we know the exact results of what could happen.
00:46:14.000Long-term ingestion, how's it going to affect the other things in the environment, if the parasites that are naturally preying on weed or whatever the fuck it is that they're making.
00:46:22.000What happens to them when they're not allowed to breed?
00:46:59.000In other words, companies come into existence not to find out what's the best medicine for people, but what's the cheapest way they can produce something that's going to offset symptoms and then keep them coming back for more.
00:47:12.000There's only money in the temporary solution because if you cure it, then what's the point?
00:47:16.000And it's pure greed because there's still an incredible amount of money to be made if they were just in the seed business.
00:47:24.000And if they made seeds and then the farmer could use that plant and grow new seeds or get the seeds from it and grow new plants and it could be a natural thing.
00:47:33.000You know, you couldn't force people into suicide.
00:47:38.000Indian farmers are committing suicide as a result of being forced into using genetically modified foods and crops and being forced into an incredible debt they can't repay.
00:47:48.000There's something like every 30 seconds an Indian farmer commits suicide.
00:48:05.000They're not making as much money as they think they should be making.
00:48:08.000And being the largest democracy in the world, you would think that they would have the ability for people to petition to say this is illegal.
00:48:16.000But then again, I think the problem with democracy and the problem with having those things is that...
00:48:21.000The the commerce that you're talking about is now front and center in terms of everything in terms of Saying I'm gonna sponsor you to be the next candidate or the next president or the next congressman from But you're fucking with life so much when you make something that won't even reproduce You're fucking with life so much.
00:48:41.000I just don't think you should be allowed to do that I think that's where it gets really tricky when you're fucking with life solely for commerce like your idea of Of what it should and shouldn't do.
00:48:51.000Like you're not allowing the cycle of life to continue in a natural fashion.
00:50:02.000And I think that that should be something that at some point we have to accept as a country.
00:50:06.000And then I think it would be tough for the soldiers to look at that saying, yes, on one hand, it can be said that I'm here to be able to confront, you know, a state that sponsors terrorism.
00:50:18.000But at the same time, what if all of those soldiers were told at the same time, listen, you're also here because the American economy and in order to fund this lifestyle that we live, It requires you to secure a government that by our standards has horrific human rights abuses, by our standards of the same standards and litmus tests we use to criticize these other places, has terrible human rights offenses.
00:51:23.000How can I make this into a money-making opportunity even though it fucks up the entire point and the perspective of what I was trying to do in the first place?
00:51:32.000Right, it just becomes about making money regardless of the consequences of trying to make that money.
00:51:37.000You have leeway with entertainment to be able to do that.
00:51:40.000Yeah, there's got to be a way to reach a happy middle ground, man.
00:51:44.000You know, just people have to just not be cunts.
00:51:58.000And if you've got some fucking crazy-ass business...
00:52:02.000Where you're robbing people of their natural resources and going in there with tanks and killing who knows how many fucking civilians and somehow or another you've passed it off as helping someone's freedom or supporting freedom or making sure we're free.
00:53:17.000Apparently, they can keep sending you back.
00:53:20.000Even though you do your time in the military, Dick Cheney signed some shit where they made it so they could just bring you back if necessary.
00:53:28.000If you're a trained soldier, the resources to train a new soldier, it's too difficult, apparently.
00:53:55.000The individuals that were in charge of designing a war, you know, look at people as statistics and not real individual people because they're not going through it.
00:54:05.000You know, they're more than happy to let somebody else's child do it.
00:54:08.000But when you look at them, it's like even the people that make this genetically modified food, you know, I would believe a little bit more if I seen your kids drinking that milk.
00:57:49.000I didn't understand that connection before.
00:57:51.000I always wanted things to happen for me.
00:57:53.000I didn't really have a physical thing where it was so difficult to do that I realized the only way to get good at it is just intense hard work and focus.
00:58:04.000Everything else in my life, I was like 15 when I finally got into martial arts.
00:59:53.000It was someone who had experience teaching young children and had taught his son from a very young age.
00:59:59.000So it was more like it was a controlled place and it was more like if in the middle of the fight we did something wrong, we got punished for it because he said, you know better.
01:00:09.000We trained on that for weeks, you know what I mean?
01:00:12.000You know what to do at that particular time and now you're just being lazy because you know it hurts to do that block that way or it hurts to get down low and then get back up, you know what I mean?
01:00:21.000Well, what people don't have to experience in life is that realization, you know, this pain, the bad thing that has happened to you, only happened to you because you didn't put in the work, only happened to you because you weren't focused enough, only happened to you because you did something that you shouldn't have done.
01:00:38.000And you have no choice but to learn what the fuck that was and make sure that doesn't happen again.
01:00:59.000And I was like, if this guy comes in again, I'm just going to manhandle him.
01:01:03.000I mean, you know, some people are really brave when it comes to barking on a woman, but when they deal with a man, it's a whole other story.
01:01:09.000Well, I was, you know, trying to make sure that I wasn't sued, too.
01:03:02.000Like, my dad, he taught in a military academy.
01:03:04.000He was, like, really, really tough on us when we were kids.
01:03:07.000But at the same time, I can say that I am everything I am because, you know, somebody loved me because he took the time to say, hey, you know what?
01:03:14.000I'm going to take my son who's 12 to the Amazon jungle with me.
01:04:09.000For a long time, me and my father had a very, very negative relationship because of all the crazy stuff I was doing.
01:04:14.000And then when I got older, I started to realize that a lot of the things that he was trying to do were things that were We're very effective.
01:06:16.000But New York was a very different city.
01:06:18.000Like, if you grew up in New York in the late 80s, early 90s, you had to have some kind of physical confrontation or somebody was going to treat you like a victim.
01:06:27.000Like, if somebody wanted your hat, it was like, nah, homie, you can't have this hat because you ain't pay for it.
01:07:40.000I'm saying when you're in that place, in that situation, and there's like eight people talking reckless, they'd be like, listen, homie, if you're a real man, why don't we just shoot the five right now?
01:09:56.000The life that we see on TV every day and the tragedies that we see in the news and the horrific things that are going on all over the world, the more I go, there's gotta be a way that collectively we can figure out how to stop most of this shit.
01:10:11.000Most of this shit that I'm looking at is people doing shit to other people.
01:10:18.000It's almost like because we're not dealing with UFOs or asteroids or anything nutty outside of the earth, All of our conflicts are being caused by people doing cunty shit to other people.
01:10:31.000Like literally the whole world's problem is the whole world.
01:10:34.000The people in the world's problem is the people.
01:10:37.000It seems like that should be the easiest thing to solve.
01:10:42.000That should be the easiest thing to figure out how to get past.
01:10:45.000It's like, we're like the crazy person that never learns from their crazy actions.
01:10:49.000Just keeps doing the same stupid shit over and over and over again.
01:10:52.000We're the crazy person that doesn't realize they're crazy like most crazy people don't seem to get.
01:10:57.000I think what we're talking about here is really the evolution and the de-evolution of mankind.
01:11:25.000We're ruled by these things and people that can control them and know how those function within the human mind.
01:11:34.000What's interesting is that when things get created, say something spectacular or something destructive, the people that are creating that thing, then that technology gets put into the hands of people that did not create it.
01:12:17.000We have the ability to do shit that we don't have the moral evolution to cope with.
01:12:23.000We have the ability to wipe out like giant sections of the world in like real quick blasts and we somehow or another feel like you know because we do it a little bit more precisely like in Iraq like that's a little bit more precisely you send actual troops in there instead of just dusting the whole area it's still a massive amount of Casualty.
01:12:43.000And they love to use the word, the catchphrase, collateral damage, which I think is one of the worst excuses for murder in the world.
01:12:54.000It's crazy that you can just look at it that way.
01:12:55.000And the sad part is the people who catch the blame are always the people on the bottom, the enlisted men.
01:13:01.000Even in Abu Ghraib, when I saw that, I was like, oh, okay, watch.
01:13:05.000All the soldiers are going to get some kind of shit to them, but the people, the commanders, the officers in charge, the people who decided the policy at DOD, the individuals who were at the administration who said, yeah, this is fine, do what you need to do to get this.
01:13:19.000Those people that gave free range, they always escape.
01:13:22.000They always seem to have their little exit in the back door, while the individuals who actually did it And yet bear no responsibility for being told to do it or being told this is what we're going to do or this is in the middle.
01:13:37.000I thought it was just the soldiers deciding to be fuckheads and take pictures with bodies and sick dogs on people.
01:13:42.000I'm not gonna say that that isn't part of what happened, but I believe in all of these situations that there was some kind of culture within the society that says, You know what?
01:13:52.000If you get caught doing this, you're gonna do the time for this as opposed to whoever is on the top for it.
01:13:57.000Because you have the benefits of being here.
01:14:00.000It's always crazy when a stranger is your enemy.
01:14:33.000This isn't the world of 10,000 years ago when we show up in a fucking wooden boat and we hit the beach and there's a dude shooting arrows at us and we've got to kick some ass.
01:14:41.000This is a totally different world we're living in now.
01:14:59.000I would like to think that we've evolved a little bit, or a larger percentage of us have evolved a little bit because of the internet.
01:15:07.000Because of people's abilities to express themselves in a way that, you know, Monsanto didn't really have to hear from the regular people in the 1960s when they were making Agent Orange.
01:15:18.000They didn't have to, you know, there was protests in the news, and if there's not a bunch of people carrying signs, you're not getting anything from the people, you know what I mean?
01:15:25.000It's not like today when people on Twitter would go fucking crazy and any big story that happens, any big corruption story.
01:15:33.000We're going to boycott and it actually has serious consequences.
01:15:36.000Because people say, you know what, I'm going to contact this person and you're going to have economic consequences by the end of the day.
01:15:42.000Which, by the way, is all that they listen to.
01:15:44.000Well, by the way, today, Chick-fil-A. Roseanne Barr went off on Chick-fil-A because the governor of Massachusetts, God bless his soul, was talking about how Chick-fil-A is not welcome in Boston because Chick-fil-A has this product.
01:16:02.000It was something to do with their idea.
01:16:05.000They have a very religious company, apparently, and it has something to do with their ideas.
01:16:09.000Chick-fil-A. Yeah, they won't even serve on Sunday.
01:17:22.000Then your opinion is not your opinion.
01:17:23.000Then you're starting to use your money that you get from all of the things that you have to bolster this opinion and make people believe that your opinion is a fact rather than just your fucking opinion.
01:18:07.000You know, I don't want to say anything bad about those poor fucking people, but someone apparently had the idea that they could make some money, it looks like.
01:18:14.000They're suing them for promoting violence, which is ridiculous, because this was the third movie in a Batman trilogy.
01:19:40.000Well, I think when you get to a situation like that, there's too many cameras on you.
01:19:45.000You know, the reason why they didn't kill that guy, well, they might have killed that guy back in the day, Was that there's too many people with cameras on you, and you can get sued for that.
01:20:13.000If you're a fucking idiot and you're freaking out because you're in the middle of a physical confrontation with someone, and you accidentally pull out your gun instead of your taser, I mean, I can't think that he thought it would be okay to shoot that guy like that.
01:20:33.000People do things like that all the time that they don't think they're going to have consequences for.
01:20:37.000Well, if that's the case, he's a psychopath Because it didn't make any sense that he shot him It made sense though Didn't he dye his hair like the nigga who killed You mean the new Okay, we're talking about two separate things now No, no, no, he did dye his hair too The new guy The cop dyed his hair?
01:20:52.000The cop that shot that kid in the subway?
01:20:53.000Yeah, he dyed his hair and he went to like They caught him somewhere else Really?
01:21:23.000I don't know, but it's a terrible mistake.
01:21:25.000The guy, the kid, Oscar Grant, I mean, I can't even imagine how many more people ended up like him within that era where there was, like you said, no cameras.
01:21:37.000When there was no one back in the day.
01:21:39.000You know, how many people have been the victim of that?
01:22:40.000For example, there's a case in New York where a guy, he got like a year of probation or something, or one year in jail or something, because he killed a guy while he was drunk driving.
01:22:50.000And his family is apparently connected with the NYPD. This is my question though.
01:22:57.000If you're a cop, shouldn't you be held accountable to the law even more so?
01:23:02.000Because you knew it was wrong to be drunk and driving.
01:23:04.000You arrested people probably a hundred times for doing the same thing.
01:23:07.000I don't think that it's ever been shown that to put people in a situation where it's whatever they're doing that's wrong Has more of a consequence?
01:23:15.000I don't think that's ever been shown to have any effect on their actions.
01:23:18.000I think people do shit because they think they're going to get away with it.
01:23:21.000They don't do shit because they measure the consequence and go, alright, I might do a year in jail, fuck it, let's ride.
01:24:47.000In other words, if you get caught for murder, And then you're off all of a sudden in five years, that's only because you knew the law better and then you still broke it?
01:24:59.000Like I said, I don't think that you can make people more responsible and you're going to change anything.
01:25:03.000You might make people feel better because you're punishing them more, but I don't think you're necessarily going to change behavior by offering a bigger consequence.
01:25:10.000I think the only way to change behavior is to change thinking.
01:25:15.000What I try to tell people is, and it sounds ridiculous, but this is something that came to me on a boat once, is that you've got to treat everybody as if it's you living another life.
01:25:26.000If we could all picture any person, regardless of what the fuck they're going through in your life, think about what it would be like to live that person's life from birth to death with their situation, their economic situation, their biological situation, their Their life experiences.
01:25:41.000Would you be any different than that person?
01:25:44.000If you were that man, if you were that woman, would you be any different?
01:25:54.000And is that what life really is all about?
01:25:56.000Is figuring out that each one of us is exactly the same.
01:26:00.000We're just living through a different biological circumstance.
01:26:03.000And the more you can treat Everyone you meet, like they're you living another life, the happier you'll be.
01:26:11.000And that's the only way we're ever going to sort this thing out.
01:26:14.000Everyone has to do things based on that ideal.
01:26:18.000Whether it's business or personal shit, whatever you do, you always have to think that this person that you're dealing with is you living another life.
01:26:27.000And you can't let them boss you around, can't let them talk shit to you, can't let them fuck up your life.
01:26:32.000You know, you do your best to keep them on track, but your ethic and your resolve and your intent should always be to treat them as if it was you living a whole other life.
01:26:41.000Unless you're somebody who hates yourself, and then that's just...
01:26:44.000Well, you gotta get your shit together, son.
01:26:48.000Then you start fucking people up like, I fucking hate you.
01:26:49.000Well, they just closed down all these medical marijuana dispensaries in California.
01:26:53.000Or they just sent a letter in Los Angeles.
01:26:56.000Los Angeles has decided to step in, in their infinite wisdom, and shut down the only businesses that are regularly making money in all of Los Angeles.
01:27:48.000He's been doing this hemp oil stuff, and Rick Simpson is the guy who invented this hemp oil.
01:27:54.000Apparently, it's this really potent form of the oil from cannabis, and it puts you on the fucking moon, and in the process, it shrinks tumors.
01:28:02.000Yeah, so congratulations to our friend Tommy Chong.
01:28:07.000And it's amazing that this guy did it with no chemotherapy.
01:28:10.000He did it with holistic medicine, meaning vitamins and food, and not meaning anything crazy like sucking on crystals and making all the noises.
01:28:18.000Holistic, meaning treating the body as a whole, giving it nutrients.
01:28:22.000Giving, you know, he does what I do every morning.
01:28:25.000He has a kale shake, you know, which is a lot of people have been doing this, and if you're down for health and vitality, man, there's very few things in life better than a really fucking thick, heavy, nutrient-dense vegetable shake in the morning, and it does not taste good.
01:29:25.000My latest thing, I add coconut oil to it.
01:29:27.000Because Rob Wolf, who will be on tomorrow, the author of The Paleo Diet, said that in order for you to get maximum absorption of the vitamins from plants, you should have them with some fat.
01:29:38.000The way the human body works, you should have a little bit of fat.
01:29:40.000So I started adding coconut oil to that shit, son!
01:29:43.000And coconut oil has been known to help people who have Alzheimer's disease.
01:29:48.000There's some sort of a connection between Alzheimer's disease and diabetes.
01:29:52.000That it's almost like a sort of a cousin of diabetes for the brain or something like that.
01:29:57.000And they're having positive results giving Alzheimer's patients coconut oil.
01:32:28.000Yeah, but what I don't understand is how they can just do that, because a lot of these people are families, and this is their family business now, and they've invested so much time and money, and they were allowed to.
01:32:39.000They're doing it because they have power that they didn't earn.
01:35:58.000dude I don't live in LA it takes it takes the violence out of it we're taking the violence out of the drug trade by doing that you're taking the creepy people out we're taking we're putting tax on something you're making money so it's an American pastime half the founding fathers were high they were probably high when they were writing the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution Yeah, I hope they were.
01:36:19.000It would have been a better piece of literature.
01:37:52.000I have a lot of support on the East Coast because that's where I'm from, but this is probably one of the places in LA where I could do a bigger show than I could in New York.
01:38:03.000I think it's just because New York is like 10 cities put together and LA is like 20 cities put together.
01:38:08.000Well, it's also they probably appreciate you more where you're not at all the time.
01:38:29.000A lot of it, yeah, but I think in the very beginning it had to do with me going to specific places and not just playing the big towns, but playing all the small places around it.
01:38:39.000So you think you built it up like a sort of a grassroots thing and then it picked up through the internet?
01:38:44.000I learned this business from not only from people who were involved in it, but also like in terms of performers, but I also learned a business from a lot of We had to kill Biggie for a reason.
01:39:12.000If an old Jewish dude said, young brother, I'm like, oh, you're trying to let me off, son.
01:39:22.000They're like, look, in the 1930s and 40s...
01:39:27.000People who are African American didn't have the opportunity to petition in court.
01:39:31.000I mean, you didn't even have civil rights.
01:39:33.000So when you're dealing with people who are trying to rob you and jerk you in terms of these promoters, they needed some muscle for their hustle.
01:39:39.000So it's different for them to be like, hey man, can I have my money please?
01:39:45.000You owe Louis Armstrong like $60,000 and you're gonna give me and Avi over here an extra 10 for coming down here and having to fuck you up or you're not gonna have any legs in a little while.
01:40:09.000If you look at the contract, for example, the one that used to be prevalent rather than the 360 deal, you have a point system where you're basically given 10, 15 points, which technically means you get 10 cents off of every dollar that comes in.
01:40:54.000So I think to me it wasn't just that, but they also told me, listen, if you want to survive and have longevity in this game, then do it the old school rock and roll way.
01:41:02.000Forget this mixtape craze that was hitting during the mid-2000s.
01:41:07.000They said what you need to do is tour, tour, tour, tour, non-stop, go everywhere, never turn down a show.
01:41:19.000I mean, I could rhyme ever since I was about nine years old, but I didn't really take it seriously in terms of trying to put things together.
01:41:31.000No, but when I was young, I tried to write little songs or little verses.
01:41:36.000And then I think when I got out of prison, I decided, you know what?
01:41:40.000I'm going to take all these songs that I wrote while I was incarcerated And I'm going to really record them and I'm going to put them down.
01:43:07.000You said you were going to murder someone.
01:43:08.000They might fucking shoot you when you're off in your car.
01:43:10.000If you were all here in a big cypher back in like 1997 or something and someone tried to jump in the cypher, somebody would test that person.
01:43:19.000Like, what the fuck are you doing here?
01:44:44.000As they refer to it, freestyling off the top of the head.
01:44:48.000I think and then I think at some point nowadays all the battle rap that we see now Joe is all very much choreographed like in other words you and I it's it's run more the way the UFC would be where you and I know our opponent months ahead of time we train for his style I see you and I say you know what his style is to find angles and personal lines about people I know what his weaknesses are I need to find it whereas back in the day you would come in a room and the The wall would just be wall-to-wall MCs,
01:45:16.000and they would call two people to come in the middle that didn't even know each other.
01:45:20.000And then, like you said before, you were at war with a stranger.
01:45:48.000At some point, I think if you don't make the insults clever and there's no technique to them and there's no metaphor, then it becomes anything.
01:46:03.000You can stop that just in your raps, period.
01:46:06.000Isn't it better to do that than to do it in some sort of a fucking silly battle situation where you're insulting each other?
01:46:12.000I think, to me, battling is something that refined, and the way that I did rap, and just to clarify, there's a big difference between the way it was and the way it is now, Joe.
01:46:23.000The way it was was that the winner got to come back and perform at the next one.
01:46:41.000The first time was against the other opponents, and the other one was against the crowd.
01:46:45.000And nowadays, what's been taken out of it, Joe, is that advancement of somebody's career.
01:46:49.000That work that puts in that says, you know what, not only did you come here and prove yourself in terms of your insulting ability, But now, I have to see, can you really write songs?
01:47:21.000And what their battle was was for the opportunity, and they're going to have it now, to open up for a short tour that I'm going to do, like a spot day tour for the Middle Passage.
01:47:31.000So in that respect, yeah, they have to win a battle against one another, and then the prize is I have to now prove myself in front of this audience.
01:47:39.000I have to show them my work, and I have to show them that I'm more than just a battle rapper.
01:47:43.000That's the biggest battle for me for any battle rapper to win.
01:48:43.000I think that analogy is pretty on spot because if you're not battling somebody, there's nobody in front of you.
01:48:49.000You gotta be able to make it up on your own.
01:48:52.000It's like, what if you're that comedian that doesn't have that one person in the crowd that came with a stupid hat?
01:48:57.000And you can't make fun of nobody no more.
01:49:00.000Now you have to come up with something original, an idea that's all your own, that you own, that you put down, which is technically what you do when you make a song.
01:49:30.000It's good to fuck around with the crowd sometimes.
01:49:32.000I actually don't mind a little bit of it every now and then.
01:49:35.000But there's a big difference between the kind of work that's involved in just ad-libbing on the fly and actually writing some shit and making it a bit.
01:49:48.000So that's like, I guess, like a battle rapper who can't be a real rapper.
01:49:52.000To me, me and my brother, Poison Pen, I'm helping him right now in terms of with some sponsorships and whatnot, but mostly it's just been him.
01:50:02.000That's been resurrecting a lot of these scenes.
01:50:04.000He's a very humble dude, my brother Poison Penn.
01:50:06.000He doesn't like to say that he came out and invented the idea of having pay-per-view battle rap.
01:50:11.000He doesn't like to say that if somebody wants to come and battle in New York, that he'll guarantee their safety to make sure nobody will touch him.
01:50:18.000And they'll tell all the other goons, yo, listen, he's here to battle.
01:50:21.000You put a finger on him, you're going to have to answer to me and everybody else in the squad.
01:52:36.000To you it doesn't, because in the culture of comedy, where you have somebody like a Paul Mooney who wrote for Richard Pryor, where you have somebody like maybe a Jeff Ross who now writes for this person, that's seen as, okay, that's acceptable, that's great.
01:52:51.000Well, even like the greats, like Chris Rock.
01:52:54.000Chris Rock used Nick DiPaolo and Rich Voss, rather.
01:53:56.000I don't really accept ideas from people.
01:53:59.000But that's because I have my own shit I'm trying to work out already.
01:54:01.000It's not that their ideas aren't great.
01:54:03.000It's just at a certain point in time, I like to have it all come from my head.
01:54:07.000And there's a difference in between taking something that's kind of half done and bouncing it off people you respect and being like, you know what?
01:54:27.000And then when you do it, it's cool because if somebody gives you a tagline and then you do it, it's like a shout out to your friend every time you're on stage.
01:54:58.000I think it's more like, for example, if you're signed to a major and you wrote a song and they like it, they can take your song since they own your intellectual property and you're signed to them and they can give it to someone else.
01:55:10.000Being like, oh yeah, you wrote this song for you, for like JR, whatever, and we're going to give it to this rapper.
01:55:17.000It's funny that they used to be valid.
01:56:38.000My Twitter is so strange to me because I'm finding out more shit through my Twitter, through people sending me things about the latest discoveries, about Egyptian boats that they found from, you know, oh, they believe they found Atlantis and there's a new discovery.
01:56:52.000Gorillas have figured out how to, you know, stop traps and And disarm traps.
01:56:58.000It's like a constant barrage of insane shit and information you're getting from people all day long.
01:58:04.000Because I've known individuals to severely misconstrue a text or an email before that they can't get from a person.
01:58:10.000Like, I look at you, there's something about the way you stand that tells me what your intentions are, the way you move in.
01:58:17.000I think even in race relations this works because people who have been exposed to different races or different cultures of people, they look and see, okay, someone's rolling up walking down the street.
01:58:34.000You know, the highways around the corner, as opposed to being like, oh, because they're from here, they're probably planning this or that, rather than looking at their actual actions or stance.
01:58:42.000Like, in terms of a regular conversation, your tone of voice, you know what I mean?
01:59:07.000I mean, unless people are making billions of dollars off of it.
01:59:09.000Gotta stop, you know, if you lose a billion dollars a year and you don't have to be a cunt, wouldn't you be happier?
01:59:16.000Wouldn't you be happier doing your business, making half as much, having a 1,000 foot yacht instead of a 2,000 foot yacht, not victimizing the world?
01:59:25.000I think that's where American capitalism has the spotlight on it.
01:59:29.000Because let's say you and me have a company that averages, you know, Around $12 billion a year of gross revenue sales.
02:00:18.000That's just how they think, you know what I mean?
02:00:20.000If you're not always expanding, if you're not buying new people, if you're not buying new resources, if you haven't obtained a good rapport with a government that makes, you know, labor laws very, very simple for you to deal with, then you're a failure.
02:00:36.000And I think that's what needs to change too, in order for people to see themselves and other individuals.
02:00:41.000Yeah, there's gonna be some karma-free ways to do things, you know?
02:00:46.000And I've always said, like, we need to figure out a karma-free iPhone.
02:00:49.000When you find out what's really involved in getting the minerals to make iPhones, you're like, well, this is fucked up.
02:00:54.000There may very well be some children in the Congo who are scraping the mountains for minerals that goes into your iPhone.
02:01:00.000Like, there's gotta be a way around that.
02:01:17.000And people say, well, actually, the amount of people that commit suicide in these places, it's very similar to the amount of people that commit suicide in real life.
02:01:23.000Well, you know what the difference is?
02:03:11.000You have to change who the fuck you are.
02:03:12.000If you're a person that's part of the problem and you're aware that you're part of the problem, you've got to find a path away from that.
02:03:17.000The real problem is you get addicted to life.
02:03:19.000You get caught up in a system where you have a mortgage, and you have car payments, and you have credit card bills, and you have the, you know, this is for gas, this is for food, this is for...
02:03:27.000And you have these numbers that you have to achieve on a regular basis.
02:03:29.000So there's almost no way you can detach yourself from the system and then start off in some new path.
02:04:58.000And because it's broken down to a number thing, then that becomes the grand pursuit.
02:05:05.000The grand pursuit becomes this crazy idea that you need to...
02:05:09.000Stockpile numbers at the expense of humanity.
02:05:12.000And that humanity shouldn't be put at the very forefront of any of the decisions.
02:05:16.000So all of this could have been avoided.
02:05:18.000Everything could have been avoided if any company realized that humanity has to be first.
02:05:23.000So if you're poisoning rivers, if you're fucking people out of land, you cannot operate like that.
02:05:29.000There must be a humane way to progress and do business.
02:05:33.000If it only involves littering, and it only involves polluting, and it only involves murder, well then that's ridiculous.
02:05:39.000This shouldn't be a task that's taken forth by people.
02:05:43.000But because of the fact that you can get ones and zeros from those things, the ones and zeros have tricked us into thinking that they are the end-all be-all.
02:05:52.000By providing us with real things that come from the ones and zeros, they have sort of figured out a way to hijack our system.
02:05:58.000But we have to realize that solid things don't mean shit if you don't have your humanity.
02:08:59.000I think at that particular time, what we fail to see and we fail to realize is that Look, all of the documentation that they had was lost in countless amount of wars.
02:10:49.000When they do that, you're supposed to do it microscopically.
02:10:53.000This thing that they're doing in Turkey, this Gobekli Tepe, this is one of the oldest known structures that's It's at least 13,000 years old and it was built by people who they thought were like, at the time they were hunter and gatherers.
02:11:08.000It throws a big monkey wrench into that because there's these huge stone columns and nine foot tall stone columns with exotic animals carved into them.
02:11:31.000But what's nutty about this one is that they've actually found that somehow or another was buried.
02:11:36.000And they purposely buried it 13,000 years ago.
02:11:39.000My point was, they've only been able to explore a tiny percentage of this site, because when they explore it, they use fucking toothbrushes and shit.
02:12:11.000Yeah, but it seems like, here's the land right here.
02:12:14.000And then they're probably like, hey, look, it's still going down.
02:12:18.000I mean, these things have been in here for...
02:12:21.000Sort of, Brian, but you gotta understand, when they did find them, when they initially found them, they were so shocked, they were so big in the first place, they couldn't figure out how people made them.
02:12:28.000It's not even a head, but how did they get that stone there?
02:12:31.000Yeah, they don't know where it came from.
02:12:33.000I mean, it came from somewhere on the island, obviously.
02:18:10.000You're learning a little bit here and there, but not as much as you could be if you just really spent a certain amount of required time to just analyze your shit.
02:18:20.000And that's, again, what people don't do.
02:18:23.000So that and don't be a cunt are the two best pieces of advice that a human being could ever get, and yet those are also two pieces of advice they never give you.
02:18:34.000That's the only way we're going to fix this world.
02:18:36.000We're not going to fix this world, I don't think, through some new technology or through some actual genetic evolution.
02:18:42.000I think we're going to fix this world through a behavioral revolution, and that revolution is we're going to have to start looking at each other differently.
02:18:50.000The other way the world can change, and since we are in 2012, I'd be remiss from bringing it up.
02:18:55.000People are saying now that there'll be some kind of cataclysm at some point, some cataclysmic event.
02:19:01.000I think, even though I don't necessarily agree that that's definitely going to happen, I always say that I can subscribe to the possibility of something like that happening.
02:19:11.000People have always said that, though, man.
02:19:24.000And if that terrible thing was permanent and it wasn't something we could just push to the back of our memory and say, hey, I don't want to get in the isolation tank and deal with the fact that, yes, we did sponsor a jihad against the Russians, and when someone was blowing things up, there's some mom in Russia right now who cried over her dead son back in the 70s and 80s, and her pain is no different than any American mother that's suffering because their son died in Iraq.
02:19:49.000At some point, if we don't put ourselves in that isolation tank and say, you know, we can't escape this.
02:19:53.000This is something permanent that has affected our world.
02:19:56.000Well, the real problem is the word we.
02:21:03.000However, in my experience, I've met a lot more conservative people that try to play pious and like, "Oh, that's so horrible," as opposed to saying, "Yeah, we're all part of this." As opposed to just being who you want to be, instead you lie about who you want to be, and then you're trying to pick men up in an airport bathroom, or you're secretly selling arms to enemies, or you're doing...
02:21:25.000But at some point, you couldn't be in that position you are unless you didn't convince people that you're a good Christian, you know what I mean?
02:21:32.000That you're a humble person, that you care about other people, when in reality, you're probably not any of these things.
02:21:40.000And you got into politics because it's a good fucking payday.
02:23:21.000Especially in the modern age and I would say more so after the Reagan era because one of the first presidents to really bring out evangelical voters was actually Jimmy Carter and not any Republican.
02:23:52.000If religion is the selling point, then let's sit in that tank where we move everything apart and we think about humanity as a whole.
02:24:03.000In Egypt, 3500 years ago, people worshipped deities like Anubis, Osiris, an anthropomorphic figure with the body of a human being and the head of a jackal.
02:24:45.000If humanity makes it 3,500 years from today and they look back at this time, I know exactly what they'll say.
02:24:53.000They'll say just as we said about those people, look at these ridiculous, pathetic human beings that lived at this time.
02:25:01.000They worshipped a dead guy nailed to a piece of wood and they couldn't understand the most basic thing he was trying to tell people which is treat others the way you want to be treated.
02:25:11.000to a dude who you can't even draw or people want to kill you.
02:25:14.000Or at any point, took a position that said, I'm going to create the ability to just tell people something and not have them question it ever at all.
02:25:30.000That's the most dangerous part I think about anything because you should be able to say, hey man, if one of these things is illogical, then all of them have to be illogical.
02:25:39.000If you're telling me, oh, it's impossible for Jesus to have resurrected, okay, but it's possible for a man to divide the ocean.
02:25:45.000For someone that the Prophet Muhammad, peace be on him, ascends into heaven, that's the same thing to me or is the same impossibility.
02:25:53.000But I think that when you look at people's lives who live in poverty, the reason that that's so...
02:25:59.000That's so prevalent there is because their lives are so ridiculous, because their lives are so insane that I couldn't understand.
02:26:05.000That's just as outlandish to me as walking on water, the idea that, you know what, I'm going to have to drink my own piss today, or I'm not going to fucking be hydrated, or I have to go for three days without food, or I have to cut pieces of my flesh out.
02:26:19.000So you're saying that their life was so fucked that it was easy to give them religion?
02:26:47.000And I always think to myself, like, there's something about the idea that grandma had that somewhere in the sky, That a guy named Jesus, you know what I mean?
02:26:57.000With a mullet and the cut, you know what I mean?
02:27:00.000And the blue eyes was out there watching her and she depended on that idea.
02:27:04.000I'm not trying to steal that love and compassion from anybody.
02:27:08.000I'm not trying to take any religion away from people at all.
02:27:12.000I just tell them all the time that unless your religion makes you a better person, unless it makes you less judgmental over people's lives, if it makes you more generous, if it makes you look at people and say, hey, just like you said, you know what?
02:27:29.000But if it makes you more pretentious, if it makes you more of an asshole, if it makes you say, I just have the real truth and everyone who doesn't believe in what I believe in is going to hell, then your religion has failed you as much as you failed that religion.
02:27:41.000In my humble opinion, that's all I would say.
02:29:47.000And apparently that's all lost in the translation to Latin and Greek and their original feel of those words.
02:29:54.000But even Latin and Greek, for example, those ancient languages like a Hebrew, Arabic, Latin, Greek, there are words that mean several different things.
02:30:02.000And I think it's just a testament to how basic our form of communication is that in...
02:30:08.000Rap and lyricism, I have to create wordplay, double entendres, things that have double meanings, this that really means this.
02:30:16.000Can you imagine writing in ancient Hebrew?
02:30:18.000That a metaphor and a simile where those aren't even necessary in other languages because it's written into the actual words.
02:30:24.000Like I could have a normal conversation with you in one of those ancient languages if we were back in those times.
02:30:46.000Yeah, I wonder what it would have been like to have a battle rap in ancient Hebrew.
02:30:51.000No, but you know, I read an interesting account of ancient Greece and Byzantium at the time, and it was said that even the emperor Justinian, they were different groups the way we have red republicans, blue democrats.
02:31:04.000They had the greens and blues back then that argued for different political factions.
02:31:08.000And it said within several of these books that I read that even the emperor and other people participated in some of these debates where it had to be at a certain tone.
02:31:18.000It had to be at a certain tempo So essentially their political...
02:31:23.000Politically battle-rapping one another at some point.
02:34:56.000I've never been there to the Pacific Northwest looking for a fucking primate.
02:34:59.000I think that's a good question to ask people.
02:35:01.000But we've definitely met some primates on the road that act out of place and they want to play monkey and they run into some real gorillas.
02:36:04.000And Cocaine Cowboys 2 as well, just as good.
02:36:07.000And anyway, when they talked about that one class, the graduating class of the Miami Police Academy, where everyone who graduated either wound up murdered or in jail for corruption.
02:36:48.000One of my one of my one of my friend's fathers said that at a particular time, the cops came in, raided what he had and said, you know what, we're going to give you we're taking the money, but we're going to leave the stash and we're going to make sure nobody fucks with you.
02:37:06.000And we're going to give you extra stash here.
02:37:08.000We got some more smack for you, press up, do whatever you want, and then we'll come back and we'll take a percentage and you can have your whatever the fuck cut.
02:37:17.000He said this went on for a couple of months and he was like, yo, you know what, finally I'm out of this.
02:37:21.000He said he don't even know what happened to his friend that was into it with 5-0.
02:39:00.000This is the reality of a welfare state.
02:39:02.000The reality of a welfare state is, as a community, we should always be willing to help our brothers and sisters and help people who have experienced circumstances beyond their control and have a community stand up for each other.
02:39:16.000I know people who their house is burned down and their folks next door let them move into the basement with their whole family until they rebuilt their house up again.
02:39:24.000That kind of stuff is fucking beautiful.
02:39:45.000It feeds into some baby shit that you...
02:39:48.000And so these people, without developing a character, without developing...
02:39:52.000And having everyone around them living the same way, so they're imitating their atmosphere, and then having the situation where it seems like there's no way out of it.
02:39:59.000So it becomes a point of despair, a point of acceptance, and this laziness becomes a part of culture.
02:40:07.000And that, in essence, is kind of a microcosm for what corporations get in terms of their corporate welfare.
02:40:13.000They're used to having a government that they can fucking give money to, that they can work with.
02:40:17.000They're used to being able to grease palms in order to get things passed that are illegal.
02:40:21.000They used to say, oh, this isn't illegal?
02:41:57.000They might have the semblance of what capitalism is within the confines of certain sectors of the United States, but outside of this country, real capitalism doesn't exist that way.
02:42:07.000Our relationship with England and that capitalist relationship is the difference from It's very different from our relationship with, let's say, Colombia and that relationship with capitalism where we say, we're going to prop up a state by, it doesn't matter what the human rights violations are, we're just going to prop you motherfuckers up and you're going to get us what we want, which is control of the particular region.
02:42:27.000You have the Atlantic and you have the Pacific, your neighboring countries.
02:42:32.000Well, it comes down to the same thing.
02:43:19.000So it's not even that people are impoverished and there's a direct path.
02:43:23.000No, it's that people are impoverished and there's no training, there's no education, there's no protection from their environment, the violence that comes with a poor environment.
02:43:33.000Well, because if we're using the cunt factor, then there's no interest in them making them into able-factors parts of society.
02:43:49.000Look, if you have big money for defense contractors in Iraq and rebuilding companies like Halliburton that come in and build shit back up after we blow it the fuck apart, Well, then you could also have big contracts to shape up ghettos.
02:44:06.000Have the same kind of money involved in putting forth some sort of an effort to fulfill the potential of young human beings.
02:44:17.000To take young human beings in any sort of impoverished area where they don't have a whole lot to look forward to, they don't have a whole lot of options, and provide those.
02:44:25.000I've always said, you want to strengthen the country...
02:44:56.000We have to figure out a way to make money and fixing things up.
02:44:58.000We have to figure out a way where Halliburton gets on mushrooms and they go, we're going to rebuild ghettos instead of going over to fucking Iraq and blowing shit up and then rebuilding it back.