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00:10:10.000I am not pushing it on anybody that's not interested.
00:10:13.000But if you're a person that does supplement your vitamins and you're a person like me who absolutely knows that it affects your health, it does.
00:10:21.000I sometimes don't get enough nutrients from my food.
00:10:25.000In a perfect world, we would all be eating mineral-rich vegetables, and we would all be getting the perfect amount of water, and we would all be having the best food ever and grass-fed diet, but the reality is it doesn't always fucking work out that way, and a lot of things get affected by not supplementing.
00:10:42.000I think it has most certainly enhanced my health.
00:10:47.000And the supplements that I've been most interested in are nootropics.
00:10:51.000And this, along with Neuro-1, which is Bill Romanowski's formula, that was the one I first discovered.
00:10:57.000Bill Romanoski, a great middle linebacker.
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00:14:20.000Well, but I just read the China study.
00:14:23.000I talked to you about it, which is about...
00:14:25.000He's a very, very credible science, and he looks at a lot of science.
00:14:27.000It says a plant-based whole food diet is the best way to go.
00:14:31.000The problem is that I think, like we talked about, if you're doing sports and lifting, personally, I went about a week eating just a whole food plant-based diet.
00:16:06.000But my point is, when they're wild and they're running around and then you just hunt them and kill them, I think, first of all, the whole thing is way more humane because they lived the real life.
00:16:29.000Joseph Campbell always said that one of the problems with the original peoples and their mythology was that they would look around at nature and realize that life ate life.
00:16:39.000And if you look at a lot of, whether it's Native Americans or whatever, the traditions of killing animals, they were always fairly, most cultures were always very uneasy with killing an animal.
00:16:50.000Which is why when you killed an animal, there was a ritual around that.
00:16:58.000And when you actually have to kill something with a spear or a bow and arrow or a knife, and you feel its heartbeat and you smell that animal, that's very intimate.
00:17:11.000Almost all Aboriginal cultures had, all that I can think of, had sort of a ritual around that.
00:17:19.000They would say prayers, they'd do all kinds of things, because it makes sense.
00:17:23.000What we've become is so removed from our food.
00:17:25.000We're so removed with factory farming and things.
00:17:28.000It feeds a lot of people, gets a lot of protein, and people don't go hungry anymore.
00:17:31.000I always remind people 30 years ago, I mean half of India, A lot of China went through major famines, and certainly most of Africa, but now that's becoming more and more a relic of the past.
00:17:44.000It's because we've become very efficient at getting food to a maximum number of people, but there's a huge disconnection.
00:17:51.000So when you eat a pig, when you eat bacon that's been in a gestation crate and goes crazy because it's chewing on the bars, you're not really thinking about it, man.
00:18:16.000If you ever go to a farm, though, and you're playing around with the lambs and the goats and playing around with them, but you realize, oh, wow, man, that thing is a living, breathing creature that is reacting to me and reacting to its environment.
00:20:22.000And so apparently that came from the fact that you had cows cannibalizing their own tissue because when you slaughter cows, there are certain parts, I guess, that you don't necessarily need.
00:20:33.000You take 5% of that, you put it into the slop and they'll eat it.
00:21:06.000The book of Leviticus is actually a book in the Old Testament that goes into really stark detail about what you can eat and what you can't.
00:21:14.000And in the Old Testament, they always talk about the fact that you can't eat animals or prey.
00:21:19.000So you can't eat a leopard or an osprey, an eagle, a hawk.
00:25:06.000And one of the tricks you do when you don't have earplugs is keep your mouth open when you shoot a gun that loud because the sound has somewhere to go.
00:25:59.000You know, with this raging gun control debate in this country, do you think that there's any possible way you could make this a safe world with guns?
00:26:13.000Here's what I always say about gun control.
00:26:14.000It's what I talk about with my stand-up.
00:26:16.000Speaking of which, I'll be at the American Comedy Club this Thursday.
00:26:36.000But one of the things I always say, one of the things I was talking about with gun control...
00:26:40.000Is gun control in this country, in my opinion, will never work in terms of what people are calling for because I think that men like their guns not because they're shiny and they go boom.
00:26:51.000I actually really believe most men own guns because it's for them, and certainly for me, a feeling that at least I can protect my family if the shit hits the fan.
00:27:02.000Because a golf club or a sharp stick ain't gonna do it.
00:27:06.000And I think most men go, when a politician says...
00:27:09.000And they have good points, but if a politician says, we want to take your gun away, Americans in particular go, I don't fucking, I don't know, because you're not going to be there when somebody tries to break into my house at four in the morning.
00:27:20.000I could call 911, but the feeling of a phone in my hand versus my Mossberg 20 gauge, you know, pump action shotgun feels a lot better to me.
00:27:27.000The real problem is that guns are out there.
00:27:31.000If guns didn't exist, then you having a gun would be a different issue.
00:27:35.000But here's where the debate actually lies for me, after this terrible tragedy with the Batman thing.
00:27:39.000I do think, and the NRA, from what I can understand, isn't that cooperative with this, I do think there's a debate to be had about the lethality of weapons.
00:27:48.000Do you need a drum that holds a hundred rounds?
00:28:01.000All the law-abiding people out there, like my friend Anthony Cumia from the Opie and Anthony show who's a gun nut, why shouldn't he be allowed to have them?
00:28:08.000It doesn't bother me at all that he has one.
00:28:19.000I mean, I think that there was a politician on, he said this about it, and it was really kind of, he was honest, it was really interesting.
00:28:23.000He said, what can we do about these madmen?
00:28:26.000And he said, unfortunately, in a society like ours, that's free and as big as we are, you can't ultimately do anything about a lone, crazy, demented human being who is, whatever he is, schizophrenic.
00:28:39.000I think, though, the debate lies, can you, though, create a situation where you can keep very lethal...
00:28:47.000Efficient weapons like machine guns out of their hands.
00:28:52.000I mean, I don't think you're ever going to stop crazies from getting guns and shooting people.
00:28:56.000But it'd be nice if they got just a Glock as opposed to an AR-15 with a drum of 100 rounds.
00:29:03.000Now, this is where the conspiracy theory kicks in, is where all these people believe that the government has brainwashed people like this Joker guy to go and commit these things so they can clamp down on gun control.
00:29:15.000And that when you see, what is this, Eric Holder, you see like, first of all, the nonsense of them selling illegal guns to Mexico and having those guns be used on American Border Patrol agents in murder of border...
00:29:37.000I think that is the dumbest idea in the history of dumb ideas.
00:29:41.000I don't know the details, but it doesn't sound very good.
00:29:43.000Well, Alex Jones, of course, put your tinfoil hat on, believes that they did that shit on purpose and they're making money off of it and they wrapped it up in a ridiculous, completely implausible plot.
00:29:56.000Yeah, the problem with a guy like Alex Jones, in my opinion, is whenever you talk about the government, the government is so diversified with so many different interests.
00:30:02.000There are so many people that actually are against gun control in government and passionate about it.
00:30:06.000There are a lot of people in government that are very for gun control.
00:30:09.000I think there's a lot of debate even within the U.S. Army and the FBI and the CIA about what we should do about everything.
00:30:16.000I think you're misunderstanding his tone, though.
00:30:18.000What he's saying is it's a much more sinister thing than the government itself.
00:30:22.000What he's talking about is like the World Banks and the New World Order getting together and physically engineering a situation where they can clamp down on people to take away their guns because they're worried about the economy going into the toilet and then, you know, when they're passing things like the NBA... It's giving a lot of credit to our group of people.
00:30:42.000When they're passing things like the NDAA, when they pass things like that, you realize, well, they are slowly but steadily taking our rights away in a place, in a time where it's really not necessary.
00:31:27.000My father, I did a podcast with my dad on the Brian Callen Show, and he was talking about how he spent a lot of time in government, a lot of time down there, watched how it really works.
00:31:48.000You have a law and you have an intention.
00:31:51.000The problem when you have an intention is that there are so many different interests that you have to appease to get that law whole and passed.
00:31:59.000And what happens is What you intended usually has other consequences, which would make sense.
00:32:06.000And I think what we have to worry about is, like what you're talking about, where we start losing our own power, but it's almost like it happens without us even realizing it.
00:32:15.000Like, you pass a law that seems to be a good law, it has other unintended consequences.
00:32:21.000And whenever you do anything that compromises people's freedom and liberty, then you have to say, well, what is the end game in this?
00:32:29.000Because this seems like even in the name of safety, you're going to clamp down on freedom and liberty and safety isn't going to be worth nearly as much.
00:32:57.000He's just about personal liberty, but he also understands that he's very moderate about that stuff.
00:33:03.000You know, he's somebody who talks about, for example, whatever your intention, whatever your intention, as government grows, and both sides are responsible, Democrats, Republicans, it's human.
00:33:16.000As a government grows with tax revenue or whatever it is, what happens with corporations, they behave just like you and I would, which is I've got to lobby my government so I can get a favorable outcome here because everybody else is doing it.
00:33:31.000So pretty soon you've got everybody feeding out of or influencing the government trough.
00:33:55.000But just be aware that regardless, the bigger it gets, even if its intentions are good, the argument goes you're going to lose some of your liberties.
00:36:39.000To preserve personal freedom, personal liberty.
00:36:42.000If they had less laws and more cops, the world would be a way better place.
00:36:47.000And if the cops were paid better and treated better by people...
00:36:51.000If more people got their shit together so they didn't look at the cop as like someone who's gonna come and arrest you for doing shitty things, just don't be doing shitty things.
00:37:00.000If we could figure out a way to elevate our society to the next level.
00:37:16.000Instead of thinking of cops as someone who's coming to bust you or someone who's going to take your shit, if you had good cops in a community, it's like if you had a fucking fort and your buddy was the guy who had to watch the door with the gun because there's crazy Indians or who knows what the fuck could happen.
00:38:47.000What's the greatest part about it to you?
00:38:50.000Accessibility to everything that's everything and feeling safe doing it.
00:38:55.000First of all, you've got the Lower East Side, which is totally different than the Lower West Side, which is totally different than the Upper West Side, which is totally different than Midtown, which is totally different than the Upper East Side.
00:39:03.000And there's an experience to be had in all quadrants of Manhattan.
00:39:06.000You can get there in 15 minutes by cab or less or by subway.
00:39:11.000And most importantly, you no longer walk around New York feeling like you're going to get mugged or anything else.
00:39:17.000See, that's the feeling that people still have about Manhattan, is that weird feeling of worrying about being mugged.
00:39:25.000But if you look at the statistics, the police have done an amazing job of policing.
00:39:31.000And you know who else has done a really good job?
00:39:32.000I can't remember our police chief here in L.A., but...
00:39:36.000They've done a really good job, really good job at controlling gang violence in this, and it's almost impossible in such a huge area, but they've done a really innovative job, you know, comparatively.
00:39:48.000They've learned a lot from the gang explosions in the 80s and the 90s, and they've done a really good job in a lot of places.
00:39:55.000It's kind of fucked when you really wrap your head around it.
00:39:57.000That should be the laws that people are concentrating on.
00:40:33.000Everybody has the need to belong to a team or a tribe.
00:40:36.000That's why we call ourselves a death squad.
00:40:39.000That's why I love being a part of 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu.
00:40:43.000When you become a part of a team, you feel stronger.
00:40:50.000So some kid who's out there on his own, his family just fucking sucks and his whole life has been shit, and he's there with some dude who will shoot a dude for him.
00:40:59.000That's kind of what the podcast is too, isn't it?
00:41:58.000Well, this is an even more intimate experience because you're in people's fucking heads, man.
00:42:03.000That's why people get so annoyed if you say something over, repeat things, or if you do something they don't like.
00:42:08.000People are allowing you the most intimate input into their brain.
00:42:15.000You're in the fucking earbuds and you're literally playing inside their ear and you're talking inside their head and if you're annoying, that's a mindfuck, but if you are really genuinely on a good path and you really are genuinely promoting Other people to be on a good path to and just brotherhood.
00:42:36.000You know, Tom Rhodes sent me a text today that was a really fucking awesome text because Tom just did the Ice House Chronicles show that we do at the Death Squad at the Ice House.
00:42:46.000The Ice House is an amazing old comedy club, and we've been doing these shows, and we're going to do one this Friday night, where we have all these comics go up, it was Dom Herrera, you know, this week it's Greg Fitzsimmons, Joey Diaz, Joey's on all the time, Bert Kreischer was there this week, I mean, these shows are fucking incredible, okay?
00:43:02.000And we're hanging around in the back room and we're doing a podcast and it's me and Kreischer and Tom Rhodes and Dom Herrera and Brody Stevens and we are laughing our fucking dicks off.
00:43:16.000It's like the stuff we always did but now hundreds of thousands of people But what Tom said, he goes, I really love the feeling of comedy brotherhood.
00:44:27.000I'm reading this book called The Sociopath Next Door, written by this Harvard psychiatrist.
00:44:32.000Yeah, I read an excerpt about that where they were saying some frightening numbers.
00:44:37.000Well, sociopaths, you were just talking about connection and how important it is and the feeling you get from when you move other people and you get moved from other people.
00:44:46.000Most of us who are normal, we get this.
00:47:18.000Your jokes would be hard to steal though because like I was watching you this weekend and one of the things I loved was it was almost like you were, you were, you were, because I know a lot of this stuff is new and so so much of it was just you kind of having an experience.
00:47:30.000It's like what I like about your stand-up is you're always kind of having an experience and you're doing it For you and you're working something out and you're looking at how weirdly, how weird we are structured as a society, our minds are, why we do things that make no sense, why contextually something makes sense but then it doesn't in this case.
00:47:49.000And it was so fun to watch because I was like, you know, the comedy is almost secondary to the experience.
00:48:24.000I have friends that are wonderful that I play grab ass with, but then you have friends that really inspire you to be better and push you just by their example.
00:49:03.000It was like, literally, these New Yorkers, like all these comics got on them, and then Joe Rogan gets up, and it was literally like, we were like looking at each other going, what the fuck is, what the fuck is this?
00:49:10.000And it was, what it was was somebody who had never taken a day off, and had only been working on being as authentic with their experience, and what a lot of people don't know about your early stuff is you were so good at impressions, you did all of it.
00:49:51.000Remember that we were pitching a TV show and we're sitting on a couch and it's like, I think it was with Eric Tannenbaum and like big producers and you go, and we were talking about martial arts and you go, yeah, I'm flexible.
00:50:01.000And I was like, yeah, I'm flexible too.
00:50:03.000And you go, yeah, but you can't do this.
00:50:04.000And you grabbed your ankles and fucking pulled them up and you did the splits in the air.
00:50:09.000And we were all like, what the fuck is that?
00:50:12.000And you used to bring that shit to the stage and it's just really wild to watch you kind of Continue to grow and change your expression, you know?
00:50:21.000Well, you just keep adding information to the pile.
00:50:26.000You keep adding your learned experiences.
00:50:29.000So if you're still into it, you know, you don't diminish your focus.
00:50:35.000My focus is a real wrestling match because I... Like in Steven Pressfield's books, he talks about distractions and different things.
00:51:42.000What I think the secret to your success is, and I always try to tell people this because people get very frustrated and discouraged by the process of accomplishment because there are so many plateaus and you're always, always, like a lot of people, well, this didn't work out and I'm not good at it.
00:51:56.000And I'll just say this to everybody because I've been pretty successful and I have people come up to me and when you do a show they want to take pictures and they look at you as a success in this business.
00:52:08.000And you, being one of my closest friends, you had a critique of my recent special on Showtime, which I wasn't very happy with.
00:52:14.000But what was great about it is you said, hey, Brian, you could be way better than you are.
00:52:20.000Now, I shot a fucking Showtime special.
00:52:21.000A lot of people are like, whoa, you shot a special.
00:52:36.000I look back at my old stuff where I did that.
00:52:38.000It's the grossest feeling of all time.
00:52:39.000But that's okay because what it means is that no matter where you are in your career, you've always got to be assessing.
00:52:44.000You've always got to be taking yourself to task and kind of taking a look at yourself objectively and going, I've got to work a little harder.
00:52:53.000I'm watching my last special that I edited.
00:52:55.000It's the best shit I've ever done, and I can't even watch it.
00:53:02.000Even when I stumble through like one, I'll fuck up the one word, you know, I'll have one little stumble in there, and it's just like watching a puppy get hit with a hammer.
00:53:14.000The first time I saw myself on camera was when I was a wrestler when I was 14. And I walked out on the mat and I used to think I was the baddest guy on the planet.
00:53:23.000I looked at this video and I went, well, who the fuck is the kid with rickets?
00:54:00.000And he said, oh, it's because I know I can do it and everybody who learns languages or math thinks they can't because they have an emotional context around it.
00:54:13.000He wrote a book called The Straight A Conspiracy.
00:54:16.000And if you look at all the science around learning, which he did, one of the things that they find for sure is that people have these myths about themselves.
00:54:39.000What you find is that the emotional context with which they learn something has everything to do with whether or not they're going to excel at that.
00:55:12.000If you read Malcolm Gladwell's book, The Outliers, and my buddy's book, Straight A Conspiracy, It has to do with a culture that says, well, yeah, this math problem is really hard, and I guess I'll be here for the next two and a half hours.
00:55:25.000Americans are like, I'm not going to sit here for two and a half hours.
00:56:15.000What's really a problem is the more you get shit like this National Defense Authorization Act, the more these different laws are passed that slowly but surely take away your right to say certain things.
00:56:26.000They just outlawed protests at military funerals.
00:56:29.000The government has recently reinstated propaganda.
00:56:33.000They're allowed now, they haven't been since the 1940s, to actively use propaganda on the American people.
00:57:32.000I mean, what happens after a while is I start to feel like I'm not represented.
00:57:36.000I start to feel like if I'm not a corporation with a lot of money to buy lobbyists, I don't have a way of influencing my government.
00:57:43.000For example, New York Times ran an article recently about, I travel a lot, as do you, and when you walk through the two boxes where you put your feet and you Yeah, you put your hands up in your hand.
00:57:55.000Yeah, I'm not talking about the phone board that goes around you.
00:57:57.000I'm talking about the two boxes you walk through.
00:58:01.000And the New York Times wrote an article, and it was about a week ago, if you guys want to look it up, about the fact that they actually aren't too sure how much radiation you're getting.
00:58:08.000They think it might be one-tenth of a chest x-ray in some cases.
00:58:11.000More importantly, they don't maintain them as well.
00:58:14.000They had some crazy number of maintenance requests, many of which were not met.
00:58:19.000You're putting your trust into the TSA. They're probably good people doing the best they can and in some ways they do a great job.
00:58:24.000But the fact that I didn't know that I was being blasted with radiation no matter how small, not doing it.
00:59:43.000Well, that alone is just like a cry, or a call, rather, to a middling state of mind.
00:59:51.000Well, the bummer is that every time I... To a non-communication, you know?
00:59:54.000And I think if you're not politically committed to some extent, then it's at your own peril.
00:59:59.000If everybody wants to be ignorant about what's going on in their world and politics, then good luck trying to change anything, and more importantly, good luck being able to see what's happening before it does.
01:00:13.000They have jobs and children and all that other stuff that goes along with them, hobbies.
01:00:17.000But you have time to develop a philosophy.
01:00:18.000You don't have to worry about the minutiae.
01:00:20.000My point is that what you were saying earlier is that they don't feel like they're being represented, so they don't feel like their efforts put into it have any great reward.
01:00:31.000There's a lot of people, I think a good percentage, more than half, that feel completely alienated from the system.
01:00:39.000If you say that half the people in this country feel alienated from the system, that's a failing system, no matter how you look at it.
01:00:45.000And the problem is people don't feel rewarded for investing in a failing system.
01:00:50.000When a guy like Obama gets the Nobel Peace Prize and then sends 30,000 more fucking troops to Afghanistan and everybody's like, Jesus Christ, man.
01:01:21.000I bet you his biggest complaint is the fact that he doesn't have any power at all.
01:01:25.000I bet you that he knows that if he makes one decision, he's going to appease 50% of the people and piss off the other 50%.
01:01:32.000I mean, it's got to be a strange job if you just stop and think about who you are before you become president.
01:01:37.000If you take out all the nonsense, the tinfoil hat stuff about the Illuminati running things, and let's just pretend for a brief moment that maybe elections are real, okay?
01:01:47.000And maybe Obama is just a regular dude who became a senator, who's a regular dude who ran for president, who activated a big...
01:01:57.000Wellspring of hope in this people and then they put him into office and then once he gets in there then he has to deal with these international banks.
01:02:04.000He has to deal with things like Halliburton.
01:02:06.000He has to deal with people like Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld.
01:02:10.000Think about all the people that were in power before him.
01:02:12.000Think about all the people that he has to communicate with.
01:02:14.000Think about all the shit that went down in that office.
01:02:17.000Think about all the people that died all over the world because of the actions of the group of people he replaced.
01:02:24.000And think about what that must feel like to step into those shoes and then all of a sudden you realize you are at the helm of a murder machine.
01:02:31.000You are at the helm of a thing that is in every single part of the world.
01:02:36.000Not only that, it's also a huge octopus that is not being run by one particular...
01:02:40.000No, it's being pilfered by a bunch of different interests, but they're profiting in massive, massive amounts on war itself.
01:02:48.000Boeing and Raytheon and all those companies that make a lot of money off of what what they what eisenhower called the industrial military industrial and so as a as a president do you feel like you know when you get in there you just slowly try to put on the brakes i mean how much control does a guy have because it doesn't seem like much i think we deviated much from bush to obama at all and in fact they cracked down on secrecy issues and cracked down on prosecuting people for leaking information and And Obama was very much
01:03:18.000about the drone program, special forces program.
01:03:21.000He made a joke about using the drones if someone tried to date his daughters.
01:03:26.000He made a joke in one of those, you know they do one of those functions where he does one-liners?
01:03:30.000Obama got up there and he made a joke about if you were dating his daughters, he has one word for you.
01:03:56.000But again, it was what we were talking about with factory farming.
01:03:59.000When you have people in Nevada and Florida who go to a room and they kill people who are a thousand miles away via camera and with these drones.
01:04:19.000There is a psychological component when you're removing yourself from the actual...
01:04:25.000When you're a Marine, you're drawing a bead, you're shooting a guy, and you're running, and you see the guy die and stuff.
01:04:30.000when you're in a room in your country and you go home after operating these drones and killing whatever it might be, maybe it's one person, maybe 25, whatever it is, or you drop a 1,000-pound bomb on, shoot a hellfire missile, whatever comes out of those things, that's kind of really, that raises a lot of questions. that's kind of really, that raises a lot of questions.
01:04:49.000It raises a lot of questions when we're this removed from the actual experience of killing.
01:04:54.000And what we were talking about earlier, it's all connected.
01:04:57.000The sociopath does not have that feeling of connection and only feels pleasure when they win.
01:05:02.000And what is war but completely sociopathic behavior?
01:05:06.000And what is friendship other than non-sociopathic behavior?
01:05:10.000The connection that you get with people being the most important thing.
01:05:14.000We were talking about when we were doing this podcast that we've created an environment.
01:06:17.000If you send them into a war zone, they're going to get the job done.
01:06:20.000And a lot of guys, I know, I went to Afghanistan, but I know enough people in the armed forces.
01:06:26.000A lot of men in the armed forces and women have an ideology that they believe in.
01:06:31.000It's this country, it's the things that they'll do, and they come in, they're loyal servants, they risk their fucking lives, and they go do their job.
01:06:37.000And a lot of them get maimed, they lose their arms, they lose their friends, and everything else.
01:06:41.000I think that when you start to look at how this war's gone over the past 11 years, and I'm talking about Afghanistan and Iraq.
01:06:47.000You've got to be very, very conscientious about not only how this really started, who were the architects, who was the intellectual force, who was the argument behind it, how did this happen, how did this turn into a huge snowball, and the reason you should know about that is because your lives and other people's lives depend on it in the future.
01:07:09.000Yeah, we just don't feel like they do now.
01:07:11.000We'll get ourselves into another situation.
01:07:20.000Well, my buddy, I think I put it on Red Band's thing, on Best Squad, but my buddy who I interviewed, who's a special forces guy, who's a real, I don't know what he does, but I know he's very much involved.
01:07:32.000He was the baddest guy I ever knew growing up.
01:07:34.000And he said, he just said about the war effort, he watched what's happening, he'd been in Iraq for, I guess, seven years, and he said, Iraq is a country now, we've created a mini Saddam and this guy Maliki.
01:09:36.000And because of that, it makes it harder and harder to accomplish fuckery.
01:09:40.000It's still going on right now, but ultimately it's got to die off.
01:09:45.000In order for us to have any sort of religious society, we're going to have to evolve past that and realize, just as you and I realize as friends and as members of our community, that it's not necessary.
01:09:57.000And that kind of energy that you put out to control people and to profit from other people's losses Is totally non-beneficial to you as well.
01:10:10.000Just because you're pulling it off into the guise of a corporation doesn't mean that you are immune to the negative rebound of that.
01:10:32.000The negative things that I've ever done in my life, I have felt...
01:10:38.000In great deep detail and rebounded as much as possible to turn that terrible feeling into positive energy.
01:10:48.000And that is why I've been a happy person my whole life.
01:10:52.000But do you think that's because, because I always wonder, I try to help people, a friend of mine who's going through a tough time now, and I realize that one of the reasons that he's Going through a hard time is he's not in any way actually really confronted and asked himself what he wants.
01:11:07.000Yeah, you can't get a guy to do that though.
01:11:10.000But don't you think that part of your success is the fact that you've always been able to see in Technicolor what you wanted and what you wanted to be or...
01:11:24.000That constant need to write new shit, to do different things, that constant need to be in motion, the constant need to be doing something, whether it's doing jujitsu or playing pool or writing more jokes or getting on stage, that forward momentum...
01:11:49.000Once you understand the way broadly, you can see it in all things.
01:11:52.000It's like the idea that once you lock on to what it is to really focus and get good at something, But it's also that it's really satisfying to accomplish things.
01:12:02.000It's really satisfying to write things.
01:15:01.000By the way, I wasn't saying anything very important.
01:15:04.000But this idea that we were talking about before of community, of all influencing each other in a positive way, that gets lost in big numbers.
01:15:15.000And the problem is we could have a great tribe of like 50 people and keep it together and have the most awesome utopia.
01:15:22.000As I've heard Boulder described, Boulder is like a really small mountain community, but it's so small, it really almost is like a functional working utopia.
01:15:31.000But I think that we could do that, it's possible to do that as a country.
01:15:40.000And most people are just never taught how to think.
01:15:44.000They're never taught that they can manage their consciousness.
01:15:46.000They've never been taught that there are patterns that a mind can go down that's self-destructive, completely self-destructive, and also totally unnecessary.
01:15:56.000And you have to learn, like, all the times I've blown my cool for nothing, and still do, I mean, I might be in my car, Retard!
01:16:03.000And hit the horn and fucking pass somebody.
01:16:09.000And it's almost always a sign that I'm doing too much.
01:16:11.000It's always a sign of some sort of external stress it's affecting, you know, whatever it is.
01:16:16.000But when you can see that, if you can see that, and if you can go in the right direction, if we could fucking influence a giant group of people to go in the right direction...
01:18:05.000I had preconceived notions of what women were, preconceived notions of how they thought, preconceived notions of what a man was supposed to be.
01:20:27.000But it's my right to like what I like.
01:20:29.000And being a man is going after what you like.
01:20:32.000And if you want to fucking take the easy way out and take some job that you know you can do instead of pursue a career in writing books or pursue a career racing horses, whatever the fuck you're compelled to...
01:20:44.000Steven Pressfield in Going Pro had the best example.
01:20:47.000He said, you may have your degree in comparative literature, you may have a PhD in comparative literature and teach comparative literature, but guess what?
01:20:58.000It's really a question of Going for what you want.
01:21:01.000A real man can be a guy who fights in the cage or a guy who's a nurse in a fucking hospital.
01:21:08.000Whatever it is that you're doing, whatever you're supposed to do, wherever you're supposed to place your energy, giving, helping, and growing.
01:22:32.000But I also, I remember watching Dane Cook back in the day and I was like, that dude is crushing a room and I want, I got to get back into this.
01:23:31.000They have national headliners there every weekend.
01:23:33.000The Comedy Store in La Jolla is a great club, but you could get fucked there and they could send down one of those old school headliners from the 1970s that hasn't written a joke in 100 years and doesn't work anywhere else other than the Comedy Store.
01:23:43.000They'll send those down to La Jolla on account.
01:23:45.000I don't know if they're still doing that, but back in the day, you would look at the lineup and go, oh my god, no, that's the headliner?
01:24:01.000As you get older and if you're trying to do something, what happens, I think, what's supposed to happen as you become a comic is you start stripping away all that other stuff and more and more of who you really are is kind of expressed.
01:24:14.000That's what's so satisfying to me, you know?
01:25:32.000Not only are you not taking the hit, but you're not learning from the hit.
01:25:36.000Because every time you take the hit, it makes you better.
01:25:38.000You gotta take the hit emotionally, you gotta take the hit psychologically, you gotta take the hit with your ego, you gotta fucking fail in life.
01:25:45.000It's an important ingredient to success.
01:25:52.000As you were talking, I was thinking about the other thing you get from it, which is when you allow yourself to be a little bit of a silly goose or you allow yourself to be vulnerable or whatever it is and make fun of yourself, what will happen is that people around you feel safer.
01:26:10.000And what they'll do is they won't be on their guard.
01:26:12.000Because a lot of times we come at a situation, if you come at a situation from a power angle or whatever, that person's guard will go up immediately and you won't see who they really are.
01:26:21.000How disappointing is it when you meet someone and you have like a level of adulation for them, you know, they're famous, you're a fan, and they're a dick.
01:27:26.000It could have been weird because when you meet someone like that, there's a weird imbalance.
01:27:30.000If you're talking to Tom Cruise, I don't care how many gay jokes you have in the back of your head, those won't pop into your head when you meet them.
01:27:35.000You'll be like, holy shit, I hope he likes me.
01:27:37.000I did a reading with him for three hours and I spent an hour and a half with him at a party and believe me, I was like, maybe he'll be my best friend.
01:27:45.000And by the way, and by the way, I'm a straight guy.
01:29:53.000And people were, there was a lot, I had this conversation with somebody like, you know, like, well, you know, it's because of your narrow-minded point of view that you didn't enjoy it.
01:30:13.000I'm not close-minded or homophobic, but I enjoyed the love thing that they had going on, but I also enjoyed giggling like a fucking schoolchild every time they were kissing each other.
01:30:22.000In your bit, I remember you were like, two men making out is in fact hilarious.
01:32:04.000Me and Doug Benson and Brendan Walsh, we were in town, and you were there, too, at the Paramount, and one of the things we were saying, we were walking by the Comedy Works, like, There's no better club.
01:32:14.000There's never been a better club invented than the Comedy Works in Denver.
01:32:58.000I've always wondered, this is going to sound so weird, but I've always wondered, like, with a building like that, with all that laughter over all those years, And then you take something terrible like the torture chambers of Abu Ghraib or something that Saddam kept all his people in and stuff.
01:33:14.000I wonder what the composition of the walls are.
01:33:17.000I wonder if there's anything that permeates.
01:33:19.000I mean, this is hocus-pocus bullshit, but I've always wondered if in some ways the material, like of the organic material, like the wood, would be a different kind of composition than in a torture chamber or something.
01:33:54.000Well, I know that there's places like the Ice House is a perfect example, that there's been so much laughter in that place that it feels good going in.
01:34:03.000I don't know if that's my personal association, though, and it very likely could.
01:34:06.000If you led me into that place from the outside blindfolded and I thought I was in a bakery and, you know...
01:34:45.000I would try to enjoy it, but until I was in my 30s, until I had really resolved the fact that I was no longer going to compete, I would get nervous every time I'd go to a live event.
01:34:56.000This was the first UFC I've ever been to where I was totally relaxed.
01:35:12.000That was 70 seconds of craziness, man.
01:35:13.000One of my favorite things, I was doing stand-up, and they came to the Comedy Works in Denver, and I could see Donald Cerrone's hat going up and down, laughing at my jokes.
01:35:20.000And after he goes, dude, my fucking abs.
01:38:42.000And if it's not your calling, you better get the fuck out of there because there's a guy like Junior Dos Santos on the other end of the ring.
01:39:06.000The speed difference between, when I was watching, the speed difference between Cerrone and Gallard and the fights before was astronomical.
01:39:15.000Well, they were both throwing haymakers, you know, and that is part of it, is that they were throwing the kill.
01:40:44.000I thought he won the fight afterwards by decision, but I would have to honestly go back and watch it again and actually score it with my mouth shut to make an accurate assessment of whether or not my feelings after the fight are over are accurate.
01:41:00.000I'm really careful about saying what I think when it's a real close fight like that until I actually sit down and watch it as if I was scoring it.
01:41:07.000Because if you're watching it as a commentator, you're also involved in it, you're trying to be entertaining, I'm trying to explain what's going on.
01:41:15.000In order to do that and do a really effective calculation of whether or not one person won or the other, especially when it's close.
01:41:24.000Because the fight unquestionably was close.
01:42:01.000So the production staff is counting everything.
01:42:04.000They're counting strikes and there's a whole segment of the show where they'll go to effective strikes, take down attempts, submission attempts.
01:42:12.000So we get to look at hard numbers as well as our gut feeling about things.
01:42:17.000Sometimes a guy will land little pity-pat shots, and he'll land a bunch of them, but the other dude lands one haymaker.
01:42:23.000Well, that haymaker's worth more than those pity-pat shots.
01:42:25.000So sometimes numbers don't necessarily mean...
01:42:28.000But it's good to have that information to add in addition to your calculations on how you feel about it, just watching it.
01:42:35.000So you need almost more than you watching it on your own, because I'm not just watching it.
01:42:39.000I'm getting fed information as I'm watching it.
01:42:44.000Not that it would really, you know, I just, not that it wouldn't help to clean house and just get people in and know what the fuck is going on in an actual fight.
01:42:51.000That certainly would be, but I also think they need access to information the way we have.
01:43:21.000It's only critiqued when they suck at it.
01:43:23.000You know, I swear to God, man, when I have a weekend like this weekend where we did the show at the Paramount and we did the comedy works in Denver and meet all these cool people and everything, it really does feel like this crazy fucking dream life, man.
01:43:53.000Before I was the commentator, other people had done it, but I'm saying, when I was a young man, thinking about this as an aspiration, this job didn't even exist.
01:44:05.000I remember when you were like, hey, I'm going to do the UFC, and I came down with you, and I met Tank Abbott back then, and I was like, jeez.
01:45:14.000And I was like, you guys, there might be 2,000 people out there for this show, but if you guys weren't with me, it wouldn't be half as fun.
01:45:20.000Literally, it wouldn't even be You have somebody to share it with.
01:45:22.000You have a fraternity you can share it with, you know?
01:45:24.000I love watching Joey Diaz get offstage with a giant smile on his face.
01:46:26.000My name is Ushu Unduli, and ostrich are my specialty.
01:46:32.000And the great question is, if an ostrich is a bird, why can he not?
01:46:40.000And that's all I talk about for 10 minutes.
01:46:43.000This is what we need to work with you.
01:46:44.000We need to get Renato de Alonja with you together with your Brazilian Jiu Jitsu rapist character and make something happen.
01:46:51.000Because that rapist character, there's two of the funniest moments in my life that I've experienced in my whole life.
01:46:58.000One of them is Joey Diaz on the Alex Jones Show, where they fucked up and told Joey Diaz that he didn't have to worry about swearing because this part is on the internet.
01:47:06.000And Joey Diaz just opened up a can of Cuban whoop-ass.
01:47:11.000He was telling a story about going through the TSA with weed tucked under his balls and about how those fucking machines, they don't scan shit.
01:47:19.000And, you know, this is your fucking tax dollars at work.
01:47:48.000There was that and there was you in the hotel room when we were I think I just got the job at the UFC, and we would all come out to the fights, and it's a fucking great guys event.
01:48:01.000I mean, it's so barbaric, man, to go to, fuck, did you see that fight?
01:49:30.000And I also think he was worried about it was so dirty, like connecting it to his thing.
01:49:36.000I think he would do it now because I'm mastering the system.
01:49:39.000Yeah, but you've got to be careful when you're building a brand or whatever.
01:49:41.000And if you're interested in that, go to 10thplanetjujitsu.com because Eddie's got this whole web series called Mastering the System and a lot of that is with Hanato Aranja who is this...
01:49:51.000I don't want to tell you the whole story because I don't want to give up the joke.
01:51:29.000And I really appreciate the fact that Dell, a big company, has the guts through Alienware, which they own, to step in and sponsor fighters.