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00:00:14.000And mostly we started carrying battle ropes and kettle bells.
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00:00:31.000It's what I do for all my strength and conditioning.
00:00:34.000All I do is I do chin-ups, I do bodyweight squats, and I do a bunch of crazy exercises with kettlebells, and it's fucking fantastic.
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00:00:58.000I'm going through all these complicated motions.
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00:06:38.000And that was, they took a regular Corvette, and then the Z06 was 505 horsepower, and fucking racing suspension, big, fat, fucking, almost slick tires.
00:08:02.000With the jeans that they look like they're going to take half a shit out of their pants as they're walking down the street with the flip-flops.
00:08:55.000There's something about it that just shows that all you have to do is get one charismatic person to do something and then every asshole wants to follow him.
00:09:03.000So it must have been just one probably badass black dude out of prison who sagged his pants and kept sagging his pants.
00:09:11.000And then all of a sudden all these fucking dorks want to copy that guy.
00:11:09.000Well, we haven't gotten to talking about the special yet, but...
00:11:13.000My whole idea was, alright, I want to give them all this new generation stuff, technology, all the way to the fucking pigs, how they walk around with their pussies out today.
00:11:23.000I wanted to give them all that newer stuff, but yet I wanted to put some of the classic dice stuff that the newer fans don't know and pepper that into the act.
00:11:33.000So that's why I think you enjoyed it because you weren't watching somebody that all of a sudden is about politics.
00:11:39.000You come to see somebody like myself or you.
00:11:42.000We're a certain brand, so people expect that.
00:12:19.000Not only do I love that, I think it's one of the most important things in comedy is that there's someone like you that says that because...
00:12:26.000From my personal opinion as a stand-up comedy fan, as a connoisseur of stand-up, I never thought you got the credit that you deserved amongst comedians because there was a lot of backlash about your material where they were saying like, oh, it's sexist, oh, it's homophobic.
00:14:38.000But you went through it in a time where there wasn't that many people doing it, and you sticking to your guns and keeping your character the way you've always kept it...
00:14:46.000Yeah, putting me in a psychiatrist, yeah.
00:14:54.000Actually, when my career took off, I went to a therapist in New York to see how to handle my family because they got so, you know, because it happened so quick, you know, from the clubs to the arena thing that, you know, my parents and my whole family was so excited.
00:15:14.000So I would be like, look, I know what I'm doing, but let's talk about other things.
00:15:18.000You know, I didn't want it to be 24-7 about me.
00:15:21.000You know, when I'm on stage, when I'm working on projects, I do think constantly of what I'm doing.
00:15:26.000But when it's downtime, like when we came back, I just got done shooting a...
00:15:30.000Half the Woody Allen movie that I'm doing.
00:15:32.000And so the other night Max is, you know, we're sitting outside in the front porch and he goes, we're sitting with my wife Valerie and he goes, let's put on the, you know, the video camera what we filmed.
00:15:42.000And I said, you know what, now's not the time.
00:15:44.000I need a few days just to be myself now.
00:15:48.000I don't want to just stay on the movie and watch everything and see me more.
00:15:52.000It's like, you know, just staying grounded is the most important thing.
00:15:55.000Well, to me, that's the whole thing with fame.
00:15:57.000That's why a lot of these guys go nuts because it's 24-7 of them.
00:16:59.000You know, even at an airport, why do you have to feel panicked to put your fucking shoes in a basket that somebody's looking like, doesn't he know the routine?
00:17:07.000Hey, why do I got to rush every fucking move?
00:17:35.000They start coughing and I go, you ever get up in LA about six in the morning where you can't see the fucking sky because the fucking dirty smog is...
00:18:58.000You just went through this weird hiatus where people didn't appreciate you as much.
00:19:02.000Well, it was a hiatus to bring my kids up, and who doesn't like that?
00:19:05.000Fuck them, because they're not parents.
00:19:08.000But the thing is, talking about the smoking, with the night we got done, me and Max, we were staying at the Four Seasons, went to this four-star restaurant to celebrate, had some champagne-type stuff, and at the end of the meal, I just lit up a cigarette...
00:20:24.000You know, out of all this shit about yesterday's podcast, the thing that I've been getting the most shit about is tasering.
00:20:29.000I said that some guy runs in the field, and fucking cops are trying to chase him.
00:20:32.000I'm like, the cop could blow his fucking knee out.
00:20:35.000You could blow a disc trying to tackle some dude.
00:20:37.000I'm like, if you think it's not a big deal to tackle a dude who's trying to get away from you, you never really tackle a dude who's trying to get away from you.
00:20:43.000Yeah, and not knowing if that dude has weapons on him.
00:20:46.000Sure, you can break parts of your body.
00:29:37.000I really only wanted to do one, but Showtime wanted me to do the two because I'd rather have my back against the wall and have to come out swinging because I feel like I've been a fighter waiting in the cage to go fight.
00:30:21.000I just want to really do one more special that I feel I really owe myself and fans and really just fucking bang them over the head with this shit.
00:30:31.000And, you know, just go out and win it.
00:30:38.000The special that you're doing, this upcoming special in Chicago at the Arcata Theater, will create the resurgence that will make it impossible for you to not do another special.
00:30:50.000Because when people realize how funny what you're doing is, when people realize, when people are starting to remember how fucking funny and hilarious some of your shit was, and when we went to see that special, or whatever you did, what version of you did in Vegas, that version is going to kick people's dick right in the dirt.
00:31:42.000I would listen to it on the way to gigs.
00:31:43.000And I told you, I'll never forget this guy, Mike Donovan.
00:31:46.000In the back of the Comedy Connection in Boston, crying, laughing, tears coming down his eyes, crying, laughing, listening to your The Day the Laughter Died, doing your impression of doing Nixon in a girl's ass, and he's crying, laughing, and I'll never forget that.
00:32:05.000That was, to me, as an up-and-coming comedian, I was just starting on, and I was listening to this established Boston comedian just laughing.
00:32:25.000Anytime I want to do shows with what we'd call headliner stars, it's always hard because of...
00:32:32.000Like egos, who goes on after who, and I'm like, you know, just like we talked about fighting last time, that you'd be the only guy in comedy I wouldn't want to fight, because there's no way to walk away a winner in something like that.
00:34:08.000You know, when I come on your politically incorrect show, whether it was on MTV or ABC, whenever he did it, I would always do it and he was great.
00:34:17.000So I said, so why don't you do, I went back to the garden in 2000, I said, why don't you do the garden with me?
00:34:22.000And he goes, well, I'm not an opening act.
00:34:25.000I go, I'm not calling you as an opening act.
00:37:35.000But see, I would do a show with you knowing you're going in front of me, knowing you're going to fucking kill him, because that just brings me up.
00:38:47.000But, you know, it's a fucking legitimate art form.
00:38:50.000It really pisses me off when guys like you or guys like Norton or anybody who does something that's particularly dirty or crass, whatever, that it doesn't get as much respect.
00:43:05.000It's so much material to talk about on stage.
00:43:08.000Like, when I get a friend calling me and going, so I went out with this girl, I wind up doing everything to her, that when I banged her ass, she looked at me and said, I used to be really good at this.
00:43:19.000I'm thinking, what, taking a jiffy lube?
00:43:34.000They would just, if they even did that, they wouldn't even talk about it.
00:43:37.000Today, they're almost giving you a fucking checklist of what they will and won't do, and you feel like the chick.
00:43:45.000That the next day, after you've done everything to them, my friend's going, so I call the girl, you know, the call to say, how you doing today?
00:43:52.000She's going, I'll call you back in a few, and it's been three fucking days.
00:43:56.000Like, she did everything and couldn't care less about it.
00:43:59.000That sounds It sounds like a dude who didn't fuck her correctly.
00:45:03.000Girls today at 19 feel if they didn't post a picture of their asshole lips on the internet, they're not as hip as their fucking girlfriends are.
00:46:25.000We just picked up the drum skin, right?
00:46:27.000Just got the drum skin a few minutes ago.
00:46:29.000The first official LA Rocks drum skin.
00:46:30.000I think it's so cool that you have this show where you, you know, it's like you're traveling with family, you know, and I think that's a really important aspect of the road, and that's one of the things that's made it big for me, is that when I do these shows, like with Joey Diaz, or with Duncan Trussell, these guys are my family.
00:48:24.000But Eleanor's really great friends with Dom, which is fine.
00:48:28.000As am I. But now one night, you know, I've had a couple things happen with Dom where he did this Jew thing and I'd have to get in his face and straighten him out.
00:52:43.000So I was just aggravated that out of all the arguments and fights I was getting at in the comedy store, that she didn't come back me up on the Irera fight.
00:52:54.000You know, because Dom did have the balls.
00:52:56.000I got a lot of respect from him because after the fight, all of a sudden, here comes Dom into the kitchen, and I'm standing next to Eleanor now, and I'm coming down from the whole thing, and he goes, Dice, I want to talk to you.
00:53:08.000And I'm like, Dom, it's the biggest mistake you can make coming near me now.
00:53:13.000And he kept coming, and in my mind, I'm going, if this guy has the guts to get within arm's reach, I'm going to talk to him.
00:53:19.000And then we talked it out for two hours, and we haven't talked since.
00:53:25.000Listen, I love both of you, and I love Dom Arrera like a brother.
00:53:29.000Dom can be a little hostile, though, on occasion, especially if he feels disrespected.
00:53:34.000And let me tell you something, if Dom was a different way, we were on the same special with Rodney.
00:53:39.000See, with Dom, I got a history with Dom, because when I used to do Philly as a struggling comic, I would always headline the Comedy Factory outlet.
00:53:50.000So Clay Heary, who owned the club, would have booked Dom a lot of times to open the show for me.
00:53:55.000So all the way from then to the Rodney special, and then I just blew up from the Rodney special, and he started right away with the, to me, anti-Semitic bullshit.
00:54:06.000Because if he didn't, he would have been the perfect opening act for all those arenas.
00:54:11.000Why did everybody assume that your accent was an Italian thing?
00:57:06.000I had a friend who had his finger bitten off in a street fight when he was on PCP and he had his toe cut off to replace the finger and he had it permanently bent so he could keep throwing his right hook.
00:57:40.000Like, if you made a movie about my friend Joe Lake, who's a longshoreman, who was a professional boxer, a great boxing coach, trained a bunch of great boxers, and he was a fucking animal.
01:00:08.000When you're all talking at the same time, nobody can predict who's going to be talking or something comes in your head, you've got to say it.
01:00:15.000You've got to go with the flow of a conversation, and that includes interrupting people.
01:03:18.000Well, you know, nicotine in its natural form, like in that form of tobacco that you get in a cigar, first of all, it's not as bad for you.
01:03:26.000And second of all, it's used in shamanic rituals.
01:03:29.000They use it in Peru and the Amazon and ayahuasca rituals.
01:03:32.000The shamans will blow the tobacco smoke in your face in the middle of the psychedelic trip to create bigger and broader Psychedelic experiences, like to actually instigate them.
01:03:47.000You know, we had a guy on the podcast.
01:03:49.000It's funny how he knows so much about it, though.
01:03:51.000We had a guy on the podcast named Rob Wolf, who is the author of The Paleo Solution, and he said that people chew nicotine gum, and it really helps their creativity.
01:03:59.000So, like, nicotine itself is probably beneficial in a lot of ways, and almost like a caffeine.
01:04:04.000Like, there's nothing really wrong with it.
01:04:05.000The real problem is a delivery method that's been designed to make sure that you're addicted.
01:04:20.000Really based on a real story and based on how the tobacco industry has somehow or another conned all these politicians into allowing them to do what they're doing, which is pumping thousands Of fucking different chemicals.
01:05:31.000Especially once I started making money, I lost all my ability to care about shit I don't care about.
01:05:36.000Like, you know, like, people will call me to get me to do things, and I'm just fucking, I don't answer the phone, I just disappear, I vanish.
01:08:06.000So I was like, I know we're breaking up, but I gotta get the shot.
01:08:10.000I really enjoyed when I was working at the Comedy Store, when you would put on these little shows in the back, and it would be for your own amusement, and I was always like, what are we going to do with all this stuff?
01:08:20.000Just for your own amusement, he would have like, okay, now you're going to come running through the door, fuck you, and you yell at him.
01:09:23.000He's in Vegas and he's in the other place.
01:09:25.000Who was responsible for that clip that he used to have where he claimed that he got his stardom and fame after he blew you off stage one night at a club?
01:17:09.000As a brother comedian, I appreciate that, but as someone who loves hilarious shit, and as someone who is also supportive of the fact that that's one of the reasons why she's a professional comedian now, because we all knew she was so fucking funny.
01:17:22.000This was when she was just a waitress.
01:18:40.000And I did this whole thing about Marsha Clark.
01:18:43.000That once she realized this was a big TV shot for her, all of a sudden she'd come into the courtroom with the pumps and the skirt with the slit up the side, walking down the fucking aisle like, I want everybody to stare in this fucking ass and get in here for a while and build her TV career.
01:19:03.000So Holtzman did something kind of similar to the old joke.
01:19:06.000So I come over to him, and I know he's not a thief.
01:20:33.000Yeah, I would do it in a way, like, at the store where, like, I know what the other guy brought up, but let me tell you something, and then go into it.
01:21:23.000Joe's just staring at me like, that's gross.
01:21:25.000And my take is about, you know, when you get older and you jerk off, it's like a three-day process.
01:21:28.000And then by, like, the third day, when it finally, whatever the fuck is in there comes out, it, like, just falls off the tip of your cock onto your balls.
01:21:36.000You know, the best bit about that was Holtzman.
01:21:39.000Holtzman had a bit about, yeah, it's like, it's old paint that's been in the basement too long.
01:21:45.000He goes, it's not the same color that it used to be.
01:22:42.000And it only happened because it was like an old man that I was picking on one night and I just went into it.
01:22:46.000it and every once in a while I just bring it back how many great songs are written about the same subjects you know how many great sub songs you know cover uh you know really real similar ground you still fucking love them because they're great yeah you know and and in comedy there's certain things sex especially is the which is always going to be hilarious it just is and as long as it is let's extract as much of it out as we can you think we'd be overlapping a lot if we did shows I don't think so No, you do.
01:23:12.000We have a different point of view, though.
01:24:45.000I'm saying you became so fucking huge so quick.
01:24:48.000There's like this automatic resentment that's going to come with it with a lot of people.
01:24:53.000You went from being a comic who was in with this steady stream of professional comics to becoming the biggest comic in the history of stand-up comedy inside a few years.
01:35:26.000You've got to figure out how to fake them, how to get them to move, when to run in.
01:35:31.000Because if you run in, like, if you watch the last UFC, Ryan Bader versus Lyoto Machida, Lyoto Machida is this badass karate guy, and he knocked Ryan Bader out because Bader charged him, and he just went, CRACK! Just caught him, charged him, and flattened him, knocked him out with one punch.
01:35:43.000But that's the risk you take if you want to be aggressive.
01:35:46.000It's so hard to hit someone who actually knows how to fight.
01:37:15.000No, you really want to be good at what works on trained killers.
01:37:19.000Not people in the street with a fucking set of keys, because in a real-life situation, there's going to be a lot of craziness going on.
01:37:25.000You've got to be able to execute from memory and from training.
01:37:29.000And how much training do you really have taking someone's gun away?
01:37:32.000I mean, maybe it's a good thing to know if you're in the Special Forces or something, and you've got to learn dealing with people with handguns all the time.
01:37:38.000But the reality of self-defense is, most of the time when things happen, They happen, one, because one person's not confident, so the other person gets cocky, and two, because you're not aware of your environment and you don't have enough confidence in any one particular discipline, whether it's stand-up or the ground fighting or anything like that.
01:37:53.000A lot of people want to fight and they don't know how to fight, and it scares the shit out of me.
01:37:57.000I've been a martial artist my whole life.
01:37:58.000The last thing I want to do is get in a fight with somebody.
01:38:00.000Because I know there's some people that can do some crazy shit to your body.
01:39:47.000Even when I'm single, you know what I mean?
01:39:49.000It's nothing that's ever thrilled me unless I'm out hunting.
01:39:53.000I believe you, but strolling into a club filled with 1,500 people with those sunglasses on and a sleeveless shirt and they're throwing themselves at you?
01:41:00.000I'm dancing with my wife on the dance floor, and you got these three giants, these three guys surrounding us so we can dance so people didn't bother me.
01:41:10.000And you just have to ignore it and get into the person you're with.
01:42:38.000I didn't know it's my friend and I turn and he's going back and he's out on his feet, you know, because I do know how to hit, you know, in that way.
01:48:55.000And I just loved it seeing somebody get fucking buried.
01:49:00.000You know, because you weren't trying to be clever.
01:49:02.000You weren't trying to be funny at that part.
01:49:04.000You wanted to dismantle this person piece by fucking piece.
01:49:09.000And I was just so happy and enjoyed it like I was hearing the funniest stuff ever.
01:49:15.000And then when you were done, you got back into the act and you kept screaming about whatever you were, you know, your bits and about, you know, you know, fucking this chick and, you know.
01:51:15.000Just because you're on stage, you can't be afraid to expand on Tony's life before you actually show them what he does at the roller skating rink.
01:51:24.000You've got to talk about his history, his family, his likes, his dislikes, what makes him happy.
01:51:35.000And gets into Tony's whole life that the crowd is like, because this is my type of humor, that people are looking like, who the fuck is this guy that he's talking?
01:51:43.000And then he goes into the bit of Tony roller skating, but it was 20 minutes before he got to the actual roller skating.
01:52:46.000I know guys who bring up guys, and these are national headliners who do big places, and they bring up guys who shouldn't be allowed to ever do comedy.
01:52:54.000I mean, you watch this poor audience get assaulted with nonsense, with nonsense in the rhythm of a comic.
01:53:02.000Well, see what I like to do, like when Norton was with me, a lot of times I would also have Steve Simone just working for me, you know, like road stuff.
01:53:10.000So I remember when we were doing the Venetian, okay?
01:53:29.000Because I wouldn't want them thinking about the act that they have.
01:53:33.000I just want them instantly to walk out and do that.
01:53:36.000I did it to Max, too, when he was younger.
01:53:39.000Because you know you've got the guy coming on before you that's going to kill.
01:53:43.000So I like to take a newer guy to sort of train him in comedy and a guy that really has his shit together that I'm back there going, okay, you've got to amp up.
01:57:40.000How hard was it for you to go through all that censorship stuff when MTV banned you because you were talking about feminine hygiene products?
01:57:49.000It was so over the top and ridiculous.
01:57:52.000For the first 10 years when I was just doing the clubs around the country and honing my act and I would get write-ups from local papers, They would write me up in newspapers like The Hoodlum of Yuma, things like that.
01:58:06.000It was all positive stuff, and then they'd write about the act.
01:58:11.000The day after my HBO special aired, The Dice Man Cometh, the New York Times put the headline, The Demise of Western Civilization.
02:00:05.000But in a way, I understand what happened, because when I went on MTV and did what I did, You know, it was at a time when nobody did that and there was no beeping.
02:00:14.000You know, even my manager at the time, Sandy Gallen, called me up and said, I thought that was just on my television.
02:00:21.000Like, he couldn't believe the language.
02:00:23.000You know, and the banning for life was one of the greatest things that ever happened to me.
02:00:28.000I went from doing one show at a 20,000-seat arena to three shows that weekend.
02:01:50.000If you really stop and think about that, if you are a comic and you do have a show where you occasionally have comics on, wouldn't you want to promote all your friends?
02:01:56.000You do it, and Chelsea Handler does it.
02:02:00.000Leno knew me for years when I was struggling, and he was already a big comic.
02:02:07.000And when my career took off, he would badmouth me to newspapers, and I got hold of this fucking boulder head in the improv, and I said, trust me when I tell you this, next time I won't be talking to you.
02:02:19.000You won't even see me coming if you ever open your fucking mouth again.
02:07:03.000I think he was great as an actor on that show.
02:07:05.000But if I had a choice between seeing him or you, I'd always see you.
02:07:09.000Well, I appreciate that, and I understand why, because I know the kind of guy you are, and I know that's why you would come see me, because you know I'm going to deliver what you need for your laughs.
02:07:19.000Yeah, I appreciate it as a, you know, like, that form of stand-up comedy.
02:11:08.000And Google Goggles is going to lead to Google Contact Lenses, which is going to lead to Google Neural Implants, which is going to lead to who knows what kind of fucking...
02:11:16.000That's going to lead to my retirement.
02:12:34.000Well, she's a natural attention whore.
02:12:36.000No, but what I'm saying is, why quit cinema now that you got your TV show?
02:12:42.000Well, she thinks that dad got her to the dance, but there's more money legitimately in commercials, like for Skechers, when you go to the airport, and you go to put your fucking wallet in the bin, and you look at Kim Kardashian's ass.
02:12:51.000I would much rather see her suck on dick from morning, noon, and night.
02:30:12.000But if you guys didn't send us so many positive tweets, and if there wasn't such an awesome group of human beings that meets us at every city all over the world, it wouldn't be nearly as fun.