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00:03:39.000And then that milk is actually really nutritious for you.
00:03:41.000And it has built in, like there's enzymes in it and all the stuff that gets killed when you pasteurize it.
00:03:49.000And that stuff is what makes it easier for you to tolerate.
00:03:52.000So people who are lactose intolerant, oftentimes if you get them to drink natural milk, they have no problem with it.
00:03:58.000This is like, you know how you think of videos that you'd like to see, like if you had five videos that you could see from any point in time?
00:04:07.000Like you could go anywhere in time and see YouTube clips?
00:04:11.000I would give anything to see the first man to drink milk from a cow.
00:04:17.000That first person who figured out that you could fucking do that like that.
00:08:07.000Like hanging upside down, just lopping them off.
00:08:11.000And the fucking swords, it really does...
00:08:15.000Demonstrate how bloody battles used to be because they just it's like they just slide right through the neck of that fucking pig just slide through like a knife through butter and the sound is so gross this flick flick and these weird old dudes just swinging these swords it's fucking strange man Jesus Christ so glad that we got past that phase of human history thank God someone invented a gun Yeah.
00:09:36.000Yeah, but it almost always comes from something being done horrible to them.
00:09:41.000Well, yeah, man, that's the opposite of this thing called the disciplic succession, which is this idea that people get super, super smart from time to time by meditating or drugs or something happens to them.
00:09:53.000and then those people like transmit that to their closest friends which gets transmitted down uh until it like ends up in the present moment it's called the disciplic succession um you know how like you get around it's like one thing to hear someone from someone happy right but when you get around someone who's really advanced and really happy you walk away with this kind of like extra thing it like gets something into you know it like they give you something from being around them.
00:10:21.000So the idea is That certain times people have like a massive burst of that.
00:10:27.000You know, like the monkey that came out of the tree or the monkey that first used a certain tool.
00:10:32.000Certain people have that exact same kind of like blast.
00:10:35.000And the people in the close proximity to them, they get it and it transforms them and then they give it to the next person and it goes through time.
00:10:43.000In the same way, there's an opposite of that.
00:10:45.000There's like an anti-enlightenment, anti-happiness, just a foul poison that started way, way, way back when and gets transmitted from one person to the next to the next in this endless chain of shit that ends up with people doing monstrous things.
00:11:26.000We have all sorts of crazy emotions, irrational ideas of the past, irrational views of our own memory, and we're all going through this whole weird thing together, trying to feel our way through it.
00:12:00.000i mean if you think about that like even now people aren't safe and you can call 911 and have cops come to your house within 30 minutes you know depending on where you're at sometimes faster if something catches on fire dial 911 little red trucks come and put it out they just trucks with water inside of them if there's no water around think about that but not very long ago man something catches on fire it's like that's just going down
00:12:26.000You know, if somebody, if your friend hurts himself, you're not calling 911. You're going to wrap him in, like, dirty bandages and just hope for the best.
00:12:36.000It's like, so that means that people, there's a lot of fear embedded into us genetically from those times, you know?
00:12:43.000Angry little ape man living inside everybody.
00:12:48.000That's him howling out in the depths of your being.
00:12:52.000The difference is some people still listen to that howling ape freak who's terrified and screaming out of the universe and believe that that's them.
00:13:03.000And they become that crazy primal scared being and some people have started to realize or completely realize that that's just one old sort of almost outdated appendage, a psychic appendage stuck inside humans and you don't have to listen to the screaming fucking ape every time something bad happens.
00:13:20.000You can operate from another place, you know?
00:13:28.000As long as we can keep this whole society thing together, keep giving people food and purpose, we can slowly but surely make these leaps into the next stage of consciousness.
00:13:52.000Julian Assange thing really gives me the spooks, man, because it's like...
00:13:56.000Well, explain to the folks who don't know what the fuck's going on, what's happening.
00:13:59.000So Julian Assange is this guy who created a website called WikiLeaks, and he was kind of the face behind this website that people send secrets, government secrets.
00:14:11.000People sent him a shitload of files that showed a helicopter gunning down reporters, among other fucked up things.
00:14:57.000And also, man, not to be a complete fucking conspiratorial weirdo, but a lot of people say that there's some basic things if you want to get somebody that you can do, and one of them is you set them up.
00:15:16.000But, you know, in society now, if you were running an empire, and you had an enemy, And a really public enemy, it goes past the point where you can just assassinate them, like in the good old days.
00:15:28.000Like in the good old days, if someone had some information, you just fucking send in one of your assassins to come through their window and give them a quick snip on the throat, leave your fucking sigil, or whatever your sign was, because sometimes you want people to know that your enemies die, and that was it.
00:15:43.000Now, assassination is a little more complex, you know?
00:15:47.000You've got to, like, if someone gets in the public eye, they can't just suddenly hang themselves.
00:15:52.000You know, if suddenly Hassan just dangling in the embassy there, if they came into a bathroom and Hassan just hanging by a fucking rope, wearing women's panties, right?
00:16:04.000Wearing women's panties with maybe some fucking kiddie porn scattered around.
00:16:26.000It's like that's a way that they try to defame you and make you seem like you were not valid, that no one should have been listening to you in the first place.
00:16:36.000That's one way to assassinate somebody.
00:16:38.000And this Libor scandal, what exactly is behind that?
00:16:41.000They were adjusting the fucking interest rates.
00:16:43.000They were like fucking with interest rates not based on real reality but based on the urgings of the government from my complete low level understanding of this shit.
00:16:53.000But basically it somehow is just one of the indications Of the things that we hear all the time from some really hardcore conspiracy theorists who are saying that the world economies are just being controlled by bankers who are shifting numbers to benefit themselves.
00:17:12.000And this is like, of course, the military-industrial complex or war quite often is benefiting someone in a massive way.
00:17:20.000So it's just part of that idea that the way things are happening on the planet right now aren't based on Some form of humanistic logic, but are based on the economic drives of a very small amount of people who make a shitload of money when bad shit goes down.
00:17:40.000You know, like, whenever there's a fucking war, there are people who Make so much fucking money, man.
00:17:52.000You know, like, the way I, if, like, I fucking was the book at, like, Get My Own TV Show, like, if I was able to sell a show, right, that would be a big deal for me.
00:20:33.000Listen, I didn't have a TV out of some hate for TV. I didn't have a TV because I understand my compulsion to plug that Xbox in, pop in Skyrim, and just vanish from society for four years.
00:21:25.000Because it's so obvious with HD. Yeah.
00:21:29.000So, in the same way, it's weird because it's like that technology is imitating, I think, what's happening to people's perception of things.
00:21:37.000Somehow, when a president starts doing the presidential talk or when you see, like, what's happening in fucking the UK where they're saying with Assange, no, no, no, no.
00:24:07.000We're the strangest fucking animal ever.
00:24:10.000We are a strange fucking creature, man.
00:24:12.000We went from background to foreground.
00:24:14.000It's like animals are so absorbed into nature.
00:24:20.000When you watch a fucking squirrel running around and you see how in nature the thing is, just part of the earth, almost just the earth.
00:24:29.000Humans are like a few steps past that.
00:24:31.000So it's like we came out of a picture.
00:24:33.000We like came from the background into the foreground.
00:24:36.000This is the idea that they tried to metaphorically talk about in the story of the Garden of Eden, which is, you know, before they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they were unaware that they were naked.
00:24:55.000I think McKenna said, you know, this is the representation of the expansion of the neocortex.
00:25:01.000This is the beginning of human brain development is suddenly becoming aware of ourselves, of our bodies, of the fact that we have a fucking body.
00:27:52.000I think he had a career in horror movies or something.
00:27:54.000We're very close to something that's no longer here anymore, but some people are still functioning at that level.
00:28:04.000And some people know that some people are still functioning at that level and understand how their nervous system works and are really good at tricking people.
00:28:14.000If you still identify with a howling, screaming animal inside of you, You're really easy to manipulate.
00:28:23.000You know, it's not that hard to fucking trick a monkey into going for a banana.
00:28:27.000It's like legendarily easy to get a monkey to go for a banana.
00:28:32.000I want you to come over here and just look at what George Steele looks like.
00:28:36.000So you see what kind of ridiculousness I'm talking about.
00:32:02.000Only now when you tell somebody, you know, our Congress is bought by corporations and it's not really representing the people anymore and you know that's real.
00:32:36.000Yet again and again, time and time again, we see that these people have been supported by lobbyists to the point where I saw someone, I think one of the presidents, or I don't remember which it was.
00:33:22.000It keeps popping up on the internet, but it's like this idea that evolutionists had that the way some, or the creationists believe that the way some animals got from one continent to the next is from rafts of the forests uprooted by the great flood.
00:33:38.000So like bears and rabbits and squirrels were just like floating across the ocean on logs.
00:34:25.000How many crazy people right now in neighborhoods and trailer parks across America are in their backyard constructing an arc because they think God told them to build it?
00:34:35.000I bet there's at least 400 people right now hammering in their backyard on a fucking ark because they had a weird dream where God told them to build an ark.
00:36:44.000So you're, like, trying to hit these, like, the most desperate humans who are, like, a combination desperate and dumb, watching TV late at night, and they just have a little bit of money left, but maybe they're a little drunk.
00:37:11.000It used to be just a donation thing, but then someone came up with a brilliant idea of saying that you're planting seeds, and that you get it back.
00:37:20.000Well, see, the problem- It wasn't just a donation anymore.
00:37:27.000But the problem is, man, with all this stuff, this is where religion gets confusing, is a lot of the metaphysical principles these people are throwing out there, they're real.
00:37:35.000If you put good energy out into the world, it does come back to you.
00:37:39.000If you put good things out into the world, it's like throwing a fishing line out, and there's a really good chance you're going to reel back something awesome that you didn't expect to get.
00:37:48.000But it's like, these sons of bitches, they're like...
00:37:51.000Making it as though there's an actual spiritual economy in the universe, that there's some kind of quantifiable bank account balance, where if you send $2,000, you'll get $20,000 based on some specific crazy laws.
00:38:07.000That's where it gets odd, and that's where it's kind of fucked up.
00:38:17.000If you're so fucking dumb that you think that that guy's really going to be able to do that with your money, it's almost like you have to exist as an example of folly.
00:38:27.000You have to exist as an example of Like, when anybody gets scammed by one of those Nigerians, one of them, I watched this one thing they were talking about, it was a dude who was really sad, man.
00:38:37.000The guy just didn't have any companionship.
00:38:39.000He didn't have a girlfriend, really wanted a girlfriend, and just spent all his retirement money sending it to this Nigerian scammer.
00:38:46.000Went to Europe to meet this chick twice.
00:40:37.000You know, and you can go into this Nietzschean mind state where you're like, you know, yes, that is as much a part of the universe as anything else.
00:40:47.000And then there's another part of you that, if you start thinking that way, can become a bit nihilistic, where you start thinking like, oh, well, if there's wounded antelopes, then why help them?
00:41:00.000But let them suffer for their own good.
00:41:03.000Let them come to understand life through their own transgressions so that they can grow on their own and become powerful by their own volition.
00:41:13.000There's part of me that really loves that idea.
00:41:15.000And then there's another part that's like, yeah, but what if, you know, There's an actual concerted effort at work right now.
00:41:23.000A concerted effort by a combination of many different conglomerates who have recognized the psychological makeup of most human beings and have figured out very intelligent ways to intentionally manipulate those human beings to become consumeristic so that they can gain from these people's lack of education and understanding.
00:41:47.000Very educated people are often consumeristic as well.
00:41:51.000I think consumerism is a byproduct of work and doing a lot of work that you don't really want to do.
00:41:59.000People enjoy buying things when they work hard.
00:42:02.000But this is like from this, I think we've talked about this before, the Century of the Self, about what's called black psychology or using psychology to manipulate people into buying shit or giving the impression that they need something.
00:42:43.000If you were inclined to decide, if you had to cast your vote one way or another, how much do we limit?
00:42:53.000I'm sorry, I just want to say, because if that guy's not legitimate, what if something comes along that is legitimate?
00:43:00.000What if there's some sort of sustainable new environment that's being built and they want everybody to throw some money in and become a part of it, and they offer you a tangible deal and it's based on the same sort of spiritual concepts?
00:43:14.000You're going to automatically connect it with those other assholes.
00:43:17.000Well, no, I know this is the problem, man.
00:44:28.000I don't know how much they're supporting, but...
00:44:32.000That's where things get fucked up because it's like, okay, I guess we just back off and let a bunch of people get slaughtered because that's the way of the world.
00:44:38.000This is like, you know, the hardcore libertarians believe this.
00:44:41.000I think Ron Paul's like, this isn't our business.
00:44:43.000Well, his also, his contention is that we've created a lot of business that we shouldn't have created.
00:44:49.000We've made things our business and things we've had blowback because of things that we've done that we shouldn't have been doing in the first place.
00:46:32.000In the UK, if they fucking storm into the Ecuadorian embassy, if they storm into that fucking thing, in breaking the sovereignty of ecuador which is essentially invading ecuador if you go into a fucking uh yeah so in that case obviously when they if they just fucking start throwing out the whole game yeah or it's got where they're like you know we're just gonna do what we want and as
00:47:02.000long as it suits us we'll make it seem like there's laws in place here right but when it comes down to it we're gonna fucking do what we want Isn't that kind of crazy that you've got a whole building that's a different country, and that building has sovereignty, and this guy can go there and say, can I get asylum?
00:47:43.000That guy made a real goddamn sacrifice.
00:47:45.000Because, like, I don't care how much money he was making from WikiLeaks.
00:47:48.000I don't care if he was making a fuckload of money for WikiLeaks, man.
00:47:51.000He knew when he leaked those documents.
00:47:54.000Do you realize, like, when you get that much fucking information that shows that some fucked up shit is going on...
00:48:00.000The moral responsibility, the ethical responsibility you have at that moment because you know that the moment you let this shit out, you're fucked.
00:48:11.000You've made the decision like, alright, I'm gonna fucking throw myself on the fire in this incarnation just because it feels better than sitting back and festering with the knowledge that there's fucking innocent people getting gunned down for no goddamn reason and that's being kept away from the people who are funding the fucking bullets blowing up their heads.
00:48:28.000You're like, God damn it, I gotta fucking do it.
00:48:32.000And then you end up fucking holed up in a goddamn embassy.
00:48:36.000And you know that even if you do get out of that embassy, even if 50,000 Guy Fawkes mask wearing anonymous vigilantes descend on that embassy all wearing the same outfit, swarm the fucking embassy and give you the outfit to wear so that you just mix in with all of them and vanish into the fucking,
00:48:53.000into the darkness and then end up in fucking Ecuador, you know at one point There's gonna be a moment when you wake up, and there's a guy sitting next to your bed, and he's like, hey man, I'm sorry, but I gotta fucking kill your ass.
00:49:07.000Or maybe he doesn't say anything, or maybe they poison you, or maybe there's a fucking moment when you walk down the street and you feel a strange prick in the bottom of your leg, and the next thing you know, you get a weird sickness, a form of fucking swine flu, or some odd bacterial infection, and you just fucking die.
00:49:22.000So tell me more about what's going on in Dallas.
00:49:31.000I don't know when the outbreak happened, and I kind of keep my eyes peeled for any kind of end-of-the-world-style plague reports, but it seemed to pop out of nowhere.
00:49:39.000Just eight people in Dallas came down with West Nile virus.
00:50:47.000We have this crazy idea that everything's going to stay the same.
00:50:51.000The planet's going to always be hospitable to our form of life.
00:50:55.000We just live with that in the same way that individuals go around like they're going to live fucking forever.
00:51:00.000They go around treating people like shit, not returning phone calls.
00:51:04.000They go around being complete cunts as though there's going to be something I love how you say, they're treating people like shit, fucking not returning phone calls.
00:51:55.000People treat their lives, and I try to do this less now, sometimes people get caught up in the minutiae and they end up discounting their existence as though there's going to be some point ten years from now.
00:52:11.000A lot of people think, okay, I'm just going to fucking party through my 20s.
00:52:14.000And then your 20s pass, and then the 30s say, ah, I got some juice in me still.
00:52:19.000I'm gonna just fucking do it through my 30s!
00:52:22.000And then your 30s pass, and now you're feeling a little tired and fucked up a little bit, and your 40s come in, and you're like, into the 40s, I'm gonna settle down, and I'm gonna really become a man.
00:52:33.000And then you just keel over and die, and that's it.
00:52:35.000You never fucking did, you never actualized yourself.
00:52:38.000You never jumped into the fucking fray.
00:53:07.000In the same way, there's like nice, big, thick, black, oily patches of death sprouting up all over the planet from people logging and dumping chemicals in there and like, no, it'll come around.
00:53:18.000That little fucking radioactive patch called Chernobyl, it'll come around.
00:53:23.000It'll be fine in a couple of thousand years.
00:53:39.000So this is where we have this fucking problem, man.
00:53:43.000Because we've got a group of people who believe that rabbits floated on rafts from one continent to the next.
00:53:49.000We've got a group of people who really fucking believe in some very archaic, primitive bullshit, and we're really letting them We're really letting them run with it, man.
00:53:56.000We're really letting them run with it.
00:53:58.000Not only that, you're supposed to, if you're polite, to allow them whatever craziness they believe without ever arguing it or ever discussing it or ever disagreeing with it.
00:54:20.000But if you're making political decisions based on these belief systems, well, we got a fucking problem, man.
00:54:25.000We got a big fucking problem because you're making political decisions based on an imaginary voice in your fucking head that thinks that a floating man is going to come down from space.
00:55:27.000Maybe there's 3,000 of us who want that.
00:55:31.000Maybe there's 3,000 people who really are into it and that's it.
00:55:34.000And there's a lot more of us than there are of them.
00:55:37.000So at some point, something has to happen where a shift takes place, where people start prioritizing what's actually happening over what people dressed in funny outfits are telling us an invisible man is saying we should do.
00:57:24.000And if, you know, you need stories or, you know, scripture or whatever it is that you need to get you into that frame of mind that puts you on that good scaffolding...
00:59:09.000But like, on the surface, it's fucking...
00:59:14.000So in the same way, people take these very powerful scriptures, they interpret them on the surface level, and they start arguing about the fucking surface level.
00:59:24.000So now, when people are talking about the fucking Garden of Eden, they're arguing over, like, who was the bad guy?
00:59:50.000So then, when you get into the fucking Kabbalah, and you look at the Kabbalistic Tree of Life...
00:59:56.000And you see something that's taking the fucking idea of the Tree of Life and the Garden of Eden and deepening it to like the really much deeper part of the fucking fractal where it's an expression of the expansion of nothingness into somethingness in the universe and it's a cool metaphysical grid that shows a thing Becoming aware of itself, or a thing waking up and then becoming aware of itself, creating a triangle which flips over because it reflects itself into the universe.
01:10:17.000Keeping you alive while you suck its cock.
01:10:22.000It changes your whole, it blows your lungs out and actually eats them and converts it to a type of glue that keeps the cock attached to your body to keep you alive because now you no longer have lungs.
01:11:22.000Every year the dick slowly grows inside your body and starts cracking open organs and pushing ribs to the side, popping them and snapping them as it eventually goes through your body.
01:11:34.000But it does it so slowly that you never actually die, especially since the dick is providing with oxygen.
01:11:39.000But then when it gets to the end, the dick pops out of your asshole and you deflate like a balloon.
01:12:17.000But it's not any more weird than like cordyceps mushrooms that grow inside ants' heads and then explode and spray the air and infect all these other ants to become zombie ants.
01:12:27.000Turns them into fucking goddamn banelings.
01:12:30.000God bless you, Starcraft 2. Artosis, I love you.
01:13:03.000cats but dude if you take this the next level you know this is where we get into the realm the metaphysical realm that um a lot of people believe that you know you can get fucking possessed by a spirit right and this is not just fucking christians this is like in almost every religion is this notion that a a thing can get into you and start fucking controlling you and it's like man
01:13:26.000if it's if there's fuck you know maybe there's disembodied beings that really can like get inside You know, maybe just certain ideas.
01:13:54.000So you get this fucking idea and it just grows inside of you.
01:13:57.000Much like our legendary dick alien, it grows inside of you and turns you into a fucking different person.
01:14:04.000There are certain people that are so susceptible to ideas and words that they can get them in their head and obsess on them to the point of almost like madness.
01:14:13.000I had a friend who had a nervous breakdown while he was hosting a show where there was a black gentleman who was the actor in the show, a very famous guy.
01:14:23.000And as he's warming up the crowd, Brody Stevens style, he gets this thought in his head that he can't get out.
01:14:52.000He just, he could not think of not saying that word.
01:14:55.000So it would just completely fucking freaked him out to the point where he froze and he couldn't get any words out and people were concerned about him.
01:15:02.000They were looking at him like, is he okay?
01:15:04.000Like, he just stopped in mid-sentence and everyone's listening to him.
01:15:14.000possessed by an idea the idea possessed him and took over his body and there's other versions of this idea you know whatever the idea is that gets in someone's head and makes them think that a solution to a problem is to wrap explosives around their body and go wandering into a cafe that person's got a bad idea that's a bad idea inside their head that's a bad thing living inside their head yeah It's a bad idea.
01:15:36.000And it's like, there's a lot of fucking people on the planet who've got some bad ideas in their fucking heads, man, you know?
01:15:42.000But, you know, they're just, I suppose, whether they're living or not, it's just a device to, like, help understand the spread of the thing.
01:15:57.000They get into its subjective DNA. They...
01:16:01.000Transform its thought patterns and then that being begins to infect those around it with the similar Ideas and and then that spreads the fucking thought disease out through through the world, you know, right and that that's like Going on right fucking now, right?
01:16:17.000goddamn Chick-fil-a I'm gonna go around to chick-fil-a and eat some fucking Chicken sandwiches!
01:17:16.000You know, you're gonna line a woman up in the middle of the street and throw rocks at her because someone caught her dating a member of the wrong Muslim tribe?
01:17:28.000Well, it gets fucking weird because, I mean, goddamn, the first fucking, when the first monkey decided to come down out of the tree and wander out and start fucking hunting, you know, I don't know, but I'm pretty sure that the other fucking monkeys that decided to stay in the fucking tree, and in this situation, I'm not saying one group is a monkey and one group's not, I'm saying we're all fucking monkeys, but the ones that decided to stay up in the goddamn tree didn't have nuclear weapons, you know?
01:17:58.000Did you hear about the nuclear sub that was sneaking around off the coast of Mexico?
01:19:08.000There needs to be this imperative to transform those fucking crazy thought structures that are floating around in people's heads because they've got fucking nuclear weapons.
01:19:21.000You can't just climb out of the goddamn tree now.
01:19:24.000You know, if you climb out of the fucking tree, people are going to say you're a goddamn heretic.
01:19:28.000You know, you're a goddamn anti-American heretic.
01:19:31.000Listen to me, say there's no fucking Jesus Christ, and the goddamn rabbits got across the fucking ocean in some way that didn't involve floating on logs?
01:19:37.000You're obsessed with this rabbit in the ocean thing.
01:19:39.000Well, they didn't say rabbits, but I just pictured that.
01:20:40.000There's a lot of sightings in one area.
01:20:43.000A lot of sightings for the last couple hundred years and it's a really densely wooded area.
01:20:47.000Doesn't mean that they're not bears and people aren't on mushrooms.
01:20:50.000It's totally possible that it also could have been just an idea that one person had and they ran with it and it fucking carried on as almost a tradition.
01:20:59.000Okay, not to take this idea too far, but fucking McKenna talked about the idea that the UFO is some kind of projection of the mystery, of novelty, of something within humans or something in fucking hyperspace.
01:22:09.000But, it's not saying that this is not a real animal, and the reason why I say that is Jane Goodall.
01:22:14.000Jane Goodall, she was 100% convinced, all the people she talked to that had the same story, and all the same sightings that there was an undiscovered primate in the Pacific Northwest.
01:22:23.000I mean, it's never, it's something, it's not anything that fucking would, I think it'd be really awesome if somebody finally, like, I caught one of those things, but it's not going to make me fucking any happier when I wake up in the morning.
01:27:18.000Maybe shit's happening everywhere, speeding up and speeding up, and things are suddenly going to just start talking, wearing fucking shoes, talking in cute English accents.
01:27:29.000And for people who don't know, the gorillas have figured out a way to disarm traps.
01:27:33.000They know, they figured out the mechanism behind the traps, so they trigger the traps.
01:28:09.000Could you imagine if they actually did evolve?
01:28:11.000What if chimpanzees, this is a fucking stupid idea, strap in, but if you listen to McKenna's idea, McKenna's idea of the stoned ape theory was that there was a period of human history that scientists are a little bit confused about, and that period is over two million years, the human brain doubled.
01:28:34.000There's all sorts of thoughts, you know, like the throwing arm, like that we figured out how to throw shit and kill things that accelerated our use of tools and the brain just kept up with what we needed.
01:28:44.000And then the craziest one is McKenna's idea.
01:28:47.000McKenna's idea was that it was because of mushrooms.
01:28:50.000is that we had started coming down off the trees because the climate was changing and that the rainforests were receding in the grasslands and that these animals flipped over these cow patties looking for worms and shit that they would eat and then they found the mushrooms on the top and they started eating the mushrooms and then they started experiencing enlightenment, they started having creative ideas, they started developing language.
01:29:11.000Why hasn't someone just taken some chimps and given them some mushrooms?
01:29:18.000I mean, if you're willing to try lipstick on them, and let's see if this perfume is fucking toxic when turkey shoot it up your ass, they'll do all that to chimps.
01:29:26.000They do testing on chimps from medicine, and they die.
01:29:53.000This is what they're starting to look like.
01:29:55.000Man, if only we could have whatever that fucking beam that they had in Star Trek, the Genesis Ray or whatever, that makes shit evolve faster.
01:30:07.000Because McKenna's idea of the proto-hominids chomping on those mushrooms was that it happened, of course, over a long, long time.
01:30:19.000Two million years, because mushrooms at low doses, this is the other thing he mentioned in his theory, is mushrooms at low doses, man, they're great for fucking, dude.
01:30:30.000They're like, they really like, if you take the right dose, it's an aphrodisiac, man.
01:30:36.000So his idea was, yeah, so it's like, It also improves visual acuity.
01:30:43.000In the peripheral, so you can see a goddamn line sneaking up on your ass.
01:30:47.000Not just in the peripheral, but they said that they've done tests on where they have two parallel lines, and one parallel line will move very slightly offline.
01:30:58.000You can recognize it quicker on psilocybin than when you're straight.
01:31:28.000You go to a Grateful Dead concert and dance on a tapestry, you goddamn hippie?
01:31:32.000But what's amazing, it's like it can be responsible for one of the most powerful reconsiderations of your life ever, like a real true religious experience.
01:31:56.000The Reagans put a lot of fucking money into that shit, man.
01:31:59.000This wasn't like the administration, of course, not the family.
01:32:02.000But this was like the, you know, this is the pharmacological inquisition, as they say.
01:32:07.000And it all stems back to the distribution of LSD through the United States, starting with the CIA's experiments to see if they had a truth serum.
01:32:22.000What psychedelics do to a society is they fucking melt down the boundaries.
01:32:27.000And when boundaries melt down, it causes a shift.
01:32:29.000And that shift does not work very well for the way we've run our society for a very long time.
01:32:34.000And so they recognize that and they stop that shift.
01:32:41.000But it's important to realize that these breaks are being put on by people Outside of us.
01:32:47.000I mean, if you look at shamanic cultures in the Amazon, you know, this is an endogenous part of their daily life.
01:33:17.000And, you know, whether or not McKenna's right about the neocortex expanding and when protohominids chomp mushrooms, one thing is for certain.
01:33:26.000Once we found out about it, we indulged.
01:33:47.000It's like if you take the right dose and you do it with the right people and you do it with the right intention, then there will be a massive shift in your consciousness akin to a form of ego death, which allows you to heal and allows you to reacquaint yourself with kind of a living, connective energy that isn't all things.
01:34:05.000And that's a very important experience to have.
01:34:09.000But it's amazing how well the propaganda works considering how substantial the effect of the product is.
01:34:14.000That it's suppressed this incredible, you know, I mean you would say that in an open market eventually the cream rides to the top.
01:34:42.000It's a shame that you can live your whole life without understanding that there might be some other aspects to this life that we also need to take into our body in order for us to get a better grasp on things.
01:34:53.000And they might have aided getting us to here.
01:34:55.000And we might be in a very sick, sick time where we're not using these things.
01:34:59.000And that's what's responsible for this whole chaotic community that we have.
01:35:05.000This whole chaotic thing where we're polluting the skies and polluting the ocean.
01:35:08.000And we will do anything for profit, including invade other countries.
01:35:13.000We're doing all sorts of really insane, twisted things that are the types of things that would be happening if we were sick.
01:35:31.000If that's true, if that's true, if the human consciousness really did develop through psychedelics, it only makes sense that we fucking need that shit just like we need meat.
01:35:40.000Yeah, it's almost like a vitamin, or it's like a psychic vitamin.
01:35:45.000And in the same way that way back when, right after the agrarian revolution, when people were getting less nutritional value because of droughts, and they became emaciated and small, and you can look at skeletons of people back then, and they were much smaller, because they weren't getting the nutrition.
01:35:59.000In the same way, we are emaciated, but in a psychic way.
01:36:03.000So you end up with these people with these just...
01:37:15.000I mean, it's just like from an aesthetic point of view or even an artistic point of view.
01:37:21.000You're looking at it and it looks like art.
01:37:25.000It looks like a dance and there's so much flow to it as he's like fucking hurling through the water.
01:37:32.000They move so fast that it's hard to believe.
01:37:35.000But it is almost, I mean, if dance is impressive, isn't that impressive just as well?
01:37:41.000I think it's an impressive physical feat.
01:37:43.000Into a rhythm, the way they can swim to a rhythm, and then they go under, and then they under water for this long period before they bust open and start whipping it again.
01:37:57.000Wild to watch people do some shit that you just cannot fucking do.
01:38:00.000To know that that's like the capabilities of the human frame.
01:38:03.000If it's that long and that strong and that young and that dedicated and it puts in this many hours every week, look what the fuck this thing can do.
01:38:28.000This spacesuit that we're in, it's got all these parts to it that we've forgotten how to use.
01:38:37.000Almost like some survivor of a spaceship crash has amnesia and is in this super advanced spacesuit and only uses parts of it, little parts of it to amble around.
01:38:50.000And it's like, no, man, there's crazy fucking...
01:38:55.000this fucking thing but you know you need help there's certain fuels that you need to like make that connection and those fuels are fucking if you're an athlete you got to eat the right food you know you can't just chomp on goddamn fruit loops and cheetos and end up like being a professional uh olympic swimmer they've got they're feeding those people like crazy we don't even know probably glows smells like cum
01:39:19.000this special nutritional like blast that they just spray into their mouths like foie gras geese there's fucking like God only knows what these fuckers have in their bodies.
01:39:30.000And in the same way, for your intelligence, for your spiritual growth, you need to take into your fucking being certain things.
01:39:40.000Great scriptures, incredible writing, and on occasion a nice fucking mushroom trip.
01:40:24.000He said that fucking LSD was like one of the biggest, one big part of his understanding of the universe.
01:40:31.000Yeah, I think if we had a world filled with people who've all had breakthrough psychedelic experiences and they were running this country, it would be a lot easier.
01:40:39.000As long as they got enough pussy to keep them satisfied.
01:40:43.000If we just had robot concubines or whatever people would think would be morally acceptable, keep them sexually satisfied so they don't go tweaking and they don't do stupid shit and undermine our world just based on their need for pussy.
01:40:56.000Dude, by the way, you don't need robot concubines.
01:40:58.000You send out into the world, hey, it could be a form of the military.
01:43:51.000Yeah, he's like a real like anti-authority kind of person who likes to break rules and he's got fucking like a wallet full of like professional fake IDs with like Really?
01:44:30.000Because it's like right now the thing that is driving so many of us, not me, I'm driven by my love of humanity and I want the world to be a better place.
01:44:39.000But I've heard that many men are driven by the desire to fuck.
01:46:16.000And women would be like, why would you want that?
01:46:18.000Let's pretend that we have a girl on the podcast with us that is probably maybe secretly attracted to you but really upset that you're talking about this so openly.
01:47:02.000So the idea is like, this is one of the premises of this book is it's not a fucking genetic quality of being a woman that you don't want to fuck all the time.
01:47:10.000That it's more of a culturally conditioned thing that's happened from your upbringing because we're in a very sexually repressed society and ladies like to fuck.
01:47:20.000What does that have to do with the sexually suppressed part?
01:47:23.000They want to fuck more because we're sexually suppressed?
01:47:25.000They want to fuck more than they let on.
01:48:16.000Dude, let me tell you, high point of my fucking comedy career is getting a goddamn message from people saying, Andrew Dice Clay says that he likes part of my fucking act.
01:48:48.000There's no need for you to feel alone in the world, my friends.
01:48:52.000Open your heart up to the eternal spirit of life and you will find that you will draw into your orbit many beautiful things, including delightful wet pussies that comes Happy moments, happier moments.
01:50:41.000It sounds so, dude, I just smoked a joint, man.
01:50:44.000This is the first time I thought about that, man.
01:50:49.000It doesn't stop it from being possible.
01:50:53.000Well, man, I mean, when you, like, there's a lot of fucking crazy shit when you start playing around with simulation theory, and I'm so glad you brought it up, because we get this archetype in many of the world religions that involves the man-god, the god being eaten by man,
01:51:08.000the god that gets sacrificed for the sake of humans, the god that merges in with human beings, the fucking shit movie Prometheus tried to address this in a really crap way, but, like, The notion of the creators or whatever, but what's really fascinating about the idea of being in a simulation,
01:51:26.000like if we are in a simulation now, is that we are immortal in the sense that we are computer code that's being run through some form of operating system, and because we're just computer code, we can be, there's actually this guy from the Singularity Institute, I can't remember his name, no.
01:51:46.000And he's talking about this idea of vivisecting the human brain, scanning the neural system, plopping that shit into a computer.
01:51:53.000After you scan the synapses and the exact structure as close as you can, as accurately as you can, you run this through a simulator, and now you have a being with consciousness living inside a computer.
01:52:06.000Not only do you have a being with consciousness living inside of a computer, what he said was so awesome is it could then theoretically be rewound.
01:52:19.000So you could control the reality of this being in some really bizarre ways.
01:52:24.000So where it gets really fascinating is the person who this neurological scan was based, the living being, the meat body, whose brain was put on some kind of futuristic combination deli slicer slash neurology scanner, that fucking being...
01:53:00.000The point is, if this is a simulation...
01:53:04.000is that it was created by a living being right you know and that living being theoretically is mortal you know and so that mortal being has died that mortal being may have died aeons ago depending on who knows because time is a is based on the uh simulation you know what What a nutty idea that literally the universe began right as you were born.
01:53:57.000And here's where it gets even more mind fucking melty because everybody's talking about this idea of the singularity of the moment that our computers wake up.
01:54:05.000Our machines wake up and become aware that they exist as a thing.
01:54:09.000But where it gets really trippy is the idea that we're inside the simulation and we're the machine waking up.
01:54:15.000We literally are the thing waking up to an awareness of itself and gaining consciousness of itself in a true way.
01:54:26.000I almost want to rewrite the Garden of Eden story, replacing the word God with programmer, because it gets so fucking cool when the programmer made man in his own image.
01:54:40.000What's really getting really crazy is when you get to these scientists who are saying that they found computer code concealed in superstring equations.
01:54:50.000Not just fucking ones and zeros, but what this guy calls dual error correction code, which is some form of weird fucking shit that's already in our web browsers and based on the technology or the invention of a programmer in the 1940s.
01:55:31.000It's coming from a respected scientist who has found this shit in these equations they're using to represent supersymmetry and string theory.
01:55:41.000These weird symbols he's used to try to represent it.
01:55:49.000Yeah, he tried to explain it to Neil deGrasse Tyson in a video.
01:55:57.000The whole premise of it is very hard to wrap your head around, but this guy, his name is Dr. S. James Gates Jr., and he's a theoretical physicist.
01:56:10.000The John S. Toll Professor of Physics at the University of Maryland and the director of the Center for String and Particle Theory is reporting that certain string theory supersymmetrical equations which describe the fundamental nature of the universe and reality contain embedded computer codes.
01:56:30.000These codes are digital data in the form of ones and zeros.
01:56:34.000Not only that, These codes are the same as what makes web browsers work and our error correction codes.
01:56:41.000Gates says, we have no idea what these things are doing here.
01:56:50.000Our first contact with a fucking alien is going to be with the programmer.
01:56:55.000But where it gets really weird, Joe, here's where it gets really fucking weird, is the idea that...
01:57:04.000That we're running in a simulation inside a simulation.
01:57:07.000In the same way that we're trying to simulate reality through video games, SimCity, various fucking weather pattern, supercomputers, and all the various ways we try to articulate reality through machines, this has already been done in a previous machine that's articulating itself, like some kind of mirror refracting off itself, infinitely going into itself, always inventing itself again and again and again and again.
01:57:31.000If that is the case, what a trip it is to the idea of inventing video games while inside a simulation.
01:57:37.000But see, this is where it gets cool, because maybe the simulation itself is a novelty generator.
01:57:43.000Maybe the simulation, what it's here for, is to generate, you know, a novelty, which is like, look, man, let's see what happens if we put an entire planet full of people Who quantum, you know, nanobots have done neurological scans of their brain to do, like, kind of, like, neurological thumbprints, which we then animate within the machine.
01:58:03.000I mean, what we did was we invented some crazy shit.
01:58:05.000Let's see if they invent some new shit inside the simulator.
01:58:08.000And all of a sudden, the simulator's inventing new technologies that are going up through the goddamn, the different levels of the machine until finally it pops out and the programmer's desk is like, oh, fucking awesome.
01:58:27.000But it's like a really great computer.
01:58:28.000Like right now, we put into like, what's it called, Wolfram Alpha?
01:58:33.000You can throw in some pretty awesome equations and it'll spit out, like you can do a lot of crazy shit.
01:58:38.000But how great would it be if you had just a machine where you just seed it with living beings and it starts regurgitating inventions that these beings are creating?
02:00:33.000If I take my fucking phone, I guess you know that you've been dealing with this for years, but like I've been driving an 89 Volvo that could barely get me to the fucking grocery store for a very long time.
02:00:43.000So for me, being on the phone, and then I get into the Mini Cooper...
02:01:14.000And they're saying, like, in the articles that I've read, and I didn't research them deeply, but the articles I read, they're saying, well, this isn't teleportation, but it's a nice step in that direction.
02:01:24.000Did you just say you actually made a step in the direction of teleportation?
02:01:28.000Like, think of the effect that has on society.
02:01:31.000Teleport-fucking-tation, man, where, like, instead of having to go through a security line at a goddamn airport, you just zap from your home teleporter to fucking Asia in a millisecond?
02:02:52.000When I got strep throat and was fucking blasted on codeine for five days, I spent a good two days just fucking reading the Kabbalah, and I had fucking tarot cards, and I was putting them on the floor to try to understand the way they connect to the Kabbalah, and I don't remember anything that I got out of that, but it was like a little bit of it, because it's very complicated.
02:03:14.000Some people have emailed me and said they understand it, and I I think I might get Roseanne on my podcast and then I could ask her directly.
02:05:03.000That fucking his DEA has busted more goddamn dispensaries than George W. Bush's fucking DEA. You know, like, there's some fucked up shit going on.
02:05:12.000But, you know, there are some other things that he's, you know...
02:05:16.000The big thing was the social thing to me.
02:05:18.000It was like, wow, we have accepted a guy who's half black from a single mom, you know, who admits he smoked marijuana, you know?
02:07:31.000When you get around a nice, flourishing marijuana plant, you know like when you get around a fucking monkey and it's like dog plus marijuana plants?
02:07:43.000Maybe I'm just projecting, but they seem like plants plus.
02:07:46.000They seem like there's a little bit more going on in the sons of bitches.
02:08:07.000They have like a little spray thing that's timed.
02:08:11.000Sprying them certain times during the day, and they live under these lamps, and the lamps are on for a certain amount of time, and off for a certain amount of time, and you're watching it, and it's like, these are like intelligent creatures.
02:08:22.000They feel like they're greeting you with their energy.
02:08:25.000Yeah, it's strange around one of those things.
02:08:27.000But then it's even creepier that you chop them up.
02:08:29.000like what the man you don't even let them grow you grow a certain point and then like all right time to die bitch yeah you chop them and then you light them on fire dude and that's the relationship it's the fire sacrifice man it's like this isn't you know this is like in every single religion there's a reference to burning incense there's Burning bush.
02:08:55.000And it's like the fact that the component has been removed from the equation, the variables, they're trying to take the variable out of the fucking equation.
02:09:04.000It's like, sometimes when you go to certain churches...
02:09:34.000I would eat some edible marijuana and go to the Gnostic Christian church to watch the Gnostic Mass, which is this beautiful ancient ceremony, which is like...
02:09:48.000It's like you're doing something called the transubstantiation, which is transforming matter into the flesh of infinity.
02:09:55.000But the Gnostics don't take things literally.
02:09:59.000It's a different fucking thing altogether, and it's quite beautiful.
02:10:03.000I'm not a Gnostic Christian, but man, chop on some fucking marijuana, go to a Gnostic Christian church respectfully, don't go there like some asshole, go there respectfully, and fucking report back.
02:10:14.000You'll find that the experience is rather moving and beautiful.
02:10:27.000Generally we do psychedelics, but we don't have ceremony.
02:10:30.000We have a kind of rudimentary ceremony, the passing of the joint, certain rules based around the consumption of the substance, but there's no real ceremony after that.
02:10:40.000I think some people do it, but It's mostly you get high and you watch them, you know, you hang out with your friends, maybe you work out, go jogging, draw, right?
02:10:48.000There's, like, rudimentary low-level ceremonies, but no, like, chanting, candles, incense, ancient scriptures.
02:11:09.000Because it's a weird thing that plays against a lot of the way we understand shit.
02:11:14.000You're not going for it for so much of benefit.
02:11:18.000Though it is entertaining, and you are getting some instant kind of benefit from just being in a beautiful space, listening to people chant when you're super baked.
02:11:26.000There's some immediate benefit that comes from that.
02:12:00.000I can't remember, but I remember being like, whoa, fucking crazy, man, because I'd just been reading in this book, magic, marijuana, and religion, that cannabis was ritualistically consumed in Gnostic ceremonies.
02:12:18.000Anyway, man, it's a beautiful fucking thing.
02:12:21.000But when you see rituals that don't have psychoactive components in them, sometimes it feels like you're watching people warming their hands on dry tender that hasn't been set alight and pretending that there's fire coming up out of it.
02:12:35.000It's like to remove the psychedelic from ritual when we see in so many indigenous cultures the It's a component of their spirituality and their religion.
02:12:48.000Yeah, it was a very important aspect of the growth, a very important aspect of the ceremony itself, the transcending to the next stage, the going through the experience, the trip, to having the vision quests, the peyote ritual, whether it was the ayahuasca ritual, whether it was mushrooms in South America and Mexico.
02:13:11.000Whatever it was, it was all about a transformative experience.
02:13:16.000It was all about getting closer to Gaia, getting closer to the energy, the true energy, which we all get off, man.
02:13:45.000The more you freak out and get pissed at things, the funnier it is.
02:13:48.000Yeah, and you gotta let yourself freak, too.
02:13:50.000I mean, that's another thing is, like, people, this fucking thing where people are all about being happy all the time, people have confused, you know, happiness as the end goal.
02:14:01.000Like, having this emotional state of just, I'm happy today!
02:14:27.000You're in a goddamn simulator with fucking dual error correcting code at the fundamental layer of the universe and the thing is more than likely...
02:14:34.000We're too stupid to really understand that.
02:14:35.000It's more than likely a telescoping simulation where each incremental telescoping moving out becomes more and more entropic and out of focus and we're somewhere in this like middle, mid-range of this telescoping simulator that keeps getting washed out more and more and more.
02:14:52.000This is the principle and physics of the universe expanding and running out of energy or the idea in Hinduism of Kali Yuga, the final age of human beings or the Mayan calendar and all the various eschatological prophecies talking about the end of the world.
02:15:10.000The fucking simulator is going to run out of juice.
02:15:12.000Someone's going to get called to dinner and have to stop playing the fucking game.
02:15:45.000Well, you know the whole controversy behind the script?
02:15:48.000There was a woman who claimed that she had written that and given it to them, like, years before, and then they took the idea and made it a movie.
02:17:37.000She will soon receive one of the biggest payoffs in the history of Hollywood, as well as gross receipts of both films and their sequels to a total of $2.5 billion.
02:18:21.000Stewart's case was dismissed in June 2005 when she failed to show up for a preliminary hearing of her case.
02:18:27.000In a 53-page ruling, Judge Margaret Morrow of the Central District Court of California dismissed the suit, saying Stewart and her attorneys had not entered any evidence to bolster its key claims or demonstrated any striking similarity between her work.
02:19:48.000People will find places that aren't equipped for people in wheelchairs and they'll fucking sue them, man.
02:19:56.000And you know, in that way, I am very much a feminist in that I think women should be allowed to have their own fucking gym.
02:20:02.000And I don't think you should be allowed to protest that.
02:20:04.000I think if women want to work out in a gym with no drooling fucking ape dudes, any guy who would try to go to that gym is an asshole.
02:20:12.000If you want to go to a gym that's just completely filled with women who don't want to be around men, they know the deal, that's what they agree to, and you want to claim that your rights are being violated because this gym is closest to you, so you just, by proximity, you should be allowed to use it?
02:20:29.000You shouldn't be allowed to limit your business to only include one gender because the other gender is always trying to fuck that single gender?
02:20:36.000Always making them uncomfortable and feel weird when they're fucking stretching out?
02:22:26.000These guys were doing that in the gym.
02:22:29.000no it's funny how like the it's funny how the mythical the mythical world of porn like in the because in the porn universe the physics of porn are not the physics of the material world the physics of porn that happens dude you're at the gym and some chicks like hey can you spot me for a second and you're like sure i'll spot you and then like just she just starts sucking your dick and you're like wow i can't believe I guess I owe you one.
02:23:09.000But it's weird how in places like what you're talking about, which I had this guy, this very fucking brilliant guy, Conor Habib, who also happens to be a gay porn star on my podcast.
02:23:23.000And he was talking about fucking, he wrote actually a great essay on cruising.
02:23:28.000and and and uh which will permanently shift your notion of rest areas permanently straight but like you know he calls those types of gyms that you're talking about I think the term he used was cruisy is the word of it so yeah so like those places that the physics in there are the same as inside porn if you're a gay dude you can go to a gym and like and you can fuck yeah you're gonna fuck Yeah, it's a completely different experience because there's no yang.
02:23:56.000It's all just, everybody's just, or there's no yin.
02:23:58.000I don't know which one is the hard style, but it's just, just fucking it up.
02:26:40.000These fucks right now are really, like, really...
02:26:43.000But it's cool, man, because, like, what's happening, what's really cool and fascinating is, like, the bigots are the ones who are being driven into the closet.
02:26:51.000It used to be that, like, it's like reversing.
02:26:54.000Like, gay people are coming out of the closet, and bigots are getting pushed into the closet that they came out of, which is a great fucking part.
02:27:03.000And I've always said that that's my take on everything, that as a human being, that I should be a humanist.
02:27:11.000And it shouldn't matter whether I'm with the straights or with the gays or the whites or the blacks.
02:27:16.000We should all just be with the humans.
02:27:19.000And I've resisted any ideas of being a masculinist or any ideas of being a feminist or any ideas of being a nationalist or any ideas of being...
02:27:55.000But I think we can't ever pretend that intent is not important.
02:28:01.000We can't ever pretend that there are buzzwords that you can never use or subjects which you can never cover or, you know, or you're not allowed to because someone could have possibly had a bad experience and you're going to trigger an event.
02:28:31.000Why do these smart people want to restrict people?
02:28:33.000Why do these smart people want to come down on it so hard when they know what is really going on?
02:28:38.000Well, I think there's a bunch of different answers to that question.
02:28:41.000I think there's a variety of reasons people want to do it, from the From, I suppose, people who are crusaders or true believers in what they're doing.
02:28:51.000Really have gotten the language virus to the nth degree and really believe that they have to fucking shoot the abortion doctor in the fucking face.
02:29:05.000Really fucking believe to all the way to the bottom level where people are trying to look fucking cool.
02:29:13.000Or even worse, how about the guy who goes to the Sikh temple and doesn't even understand that Sikhs are very peaceful people and thinks that they're Muslims in some way.
02:29:19.000And he's got 9-11 tattoos on his body and he kills a bunch of people.
02:29:29.000Well, look, man, I don't fucking know, man.
02:29:32.000But I do think that the complexity of the...
02:29:35.000I think that the greedy, selfish, lying people tend to use complexity to their advantage.
02:29:44.000And people who seem to be more on the fucking beam, as the Freemasons say, have very simple ideas, very simple fucking ideas Like what Gandhi said, you know?
02:30:24.000The real problem is we got this weird competitive game that's going on and it's set up not in an efficient way where we generate just the amount that we need in order to be happy, but in some crazy way where you never think enough is enough.
02:30:40.000And the game becomes part of what motivates you.
02:30:44.000And instead of it just being about happiness, it sometimes morphs into just being about the numbers.
02:30:55.000And you're like, you could become Evander Holyfield when you're living in a 110-room mansion that costs a million dollars a year to keep the electricity on.
02:34:17.000Dude, if I'm paying $40,000 for something, that shit better come out of the fucking, some frozen vault of Sando's laboratories.
02:34:26.000It better be some fucking, it better be the acid that Hoffman first generated and stored in a crystal vial somewhere deep under the Pentagon.
02:34:35.000And even that, maybe that would be worth $50,000 because it would be so life-changing.
02:35:02.000It's fucking weird, but it's, I mean, definitely, like, when I went up to, like, I went up to fucking Solving once to, like, to drink, like, wine from the vineyards, and it's awesome, dude.
02:35:12.000It's incredible, the variations and the taste and the, like, the beauty of the set, of the terrain.
02:35:19.000It's, like, a really beautiful thing, man.
02:35:29.000It was summer, and you get cars to drive around because you're going to get trash going to the vineyard slurping all that wine.
02:35:34.000And our fucking goddamn driver was like an AA dude.
02:35:38.000It's like, so our driver's this sober guy driving us to the vineyards, and you felt kind of guilty by the end of the day because you're just like in the back of the goddamn car with like crusty red wine all over your lips, like wanting to puke.
02:35:52.000How much wine did you drink over the course of a day?
02:37:35.000I wonder if things are really changing, Duncan, the way I feel like they're changing.
02:37:39.000I wonder if it's just my circle of people, and I wonder if it's just the people that we come in contact with through the podcast and through Twitter, the positive people.
02:37:48.000I wonder how much the world shares in the sort of the vibe that we feel and that we're riding.
02:37:55.000And I always wonder if that is what, if putting that out there, if If it's possible that we can get our shit together by using the internet, by using podcasts, by using different ways to communicate to each other, that we can somehow or another all be reached and all get our shit together.
02:38:20.000In this generation more so than anybody's ever done before.
02:38:23.000Well, you know, man, I mean, I think that there has to be a, you know, everyone has to keep using the technology.
02:38:28.000It's like, dude, like when I went to fucking Cincinnati, this guy, I met this awesome guy named Izzy, who started his own podcast from listening to your podcast and listening to my podcast.
02:39:19.000You can't get hierarchical with your geography because a lot of people are like, you know, I just live in Pennsylvania.
02:39:25.000There's no one here to have a good conversation with or wherever the fuck they say they live.
02:39:28.000It's like, I guarantee you're surrounded by people who want to talk about philosophical shit and want to connect with someone on a level deeper than just what you had for lunch and what fucking clothes are cool or movies or whatever.
02:39:41.000You say that, but unless you're in a city, that's probably not the case.
02:39:47.000Depending on how old you are, especially.
02:39:50.000Man, all I know is that, like, I don't want to sound too weirdly patting myself on the back, but it's you, too.
02:39:57.000Like, when you go to these fucking shows, dude, there's thousands of fucking people there, and when you talk to them after the show, they're all really fucking cool, and they didn't all just come from metropolitan areas.
02:40:07.000These people are coming from different towns and cities, and But they have access to us.
02:40:13.000They might not have access to people near them, is what I'm saying, that also share in those interests.
02:40:18.000There might not be anybody around them like that.
02:40:20.000You might think there is, but unless they're in a really large area where there's a lot of people to choose from, you might not be correct.
02:40:27.000It takes a lot of people, a lot of focus, to get the group of 2,000 people that will come to see one of our shows.
02:40:33.000You've got to go through hundreds of thousands of Regular people.
02:41:32.000Because you're not going to feel good unless you do.
02:41:34.000If you hang back and be that guy that you described earlier, who's 30, well, wait till I'm 40, I'll get my shit together, and then 40, and I still don't have a career, but hey, man, I got a good job, I'm going to keep it for a little while, maybe I'm going to learn how to be an apprentice, and then one day he's dead.
02:41:52.000The guy who's gone on peaks and valleys and had dry spots and now is riding this new crazy wave where you sort of just figured out how to get on the board and really fucking travel.
02:42:02.000Yeah, that's a fucking cool thing, man, is because it's right there and it just requires a kind of like...
02:42:21.000But in order to get those ideas in front of people, that takes a heroic effort.
02:42:26.000Man, I just think, like, the thing that I'm, like, hesitating to say, because I don't want it to sound fucking culty, is, like, I really do think that people can, like, organize.
02:42:36.000I do believe that wherever you're at, man, there's gotta be something.
02:42:40.000There's ways that you could fucking figure out other people who, like, have this kind of interest that we talk about here.
02:42:45.000Well, I think through Twitter, that's one way.
02:42:47.000Where you find out people that are interested in the same kind of shows that you're interested in, and you find out that you're in your town, hey, where's the cool motherfuckers up in Tallahassee?
02:42:54.000And you put that up on Twitter, and you know, put Tallahassee as a hashtag.
02:42:58.000Actually, now people are doing it back and forth.
02:43:18.000It kind of shines a light in the shadowy darkness that can come into you if you've isolated yourself because you feel like you're a psychotic freak with insane ideas.
02:43:28.000Instead of realizing, no, man, a lot of people are thinking this shit right now.
02:43:54.000Well, I think Staggs is definitely on the precipice of some crazy shit happening, because he's definitely becoming a conduit for a lot of crazy ideas, and he always hooks me up with great guests.
02:44:07.000Yeah, and he's running the Disinfo podcast, too.
02:45:02.000So it's like, you know, again, but this is like people getting caught up in the surface level shit and trying to like, no, no, it's not going to happen on December 21st, 2012. But it's like, no, look what's happening around you.
02:45:14.000I wonder if what they calculated when they calculated the Mayan calendars, besides, you know, the moons, rather the eclipse of the moon, eclipse of the sun, I wonder if they could calculate how long it would take For a culture to grow before it imploded.
02:45:32.000I wonder if there's like just a set number.
02:47:36.000I wonder if they had writing back then.
02:47:38.000Because I don't know if we know that they had writing 12,000 years ago.
02:47:42.000I know it all depended upon whether or not that event, that 12,000 year old event, was really the sort of mass extinction event that like Graham Hancock and a lot of people think might have happened to human culture, or humankind rather, the human species.
02:48:00.000Because there's a lot of speculation about when is the oldest civilization.
02:48:04.000They pretty much settle on Mesopotamia.
02:49:39.000The distance of people writing on clay tablets in scratches, in these little scratches, up and down and sideways, that was their whole language.
02:49:49.000And the idea that they wrote of something from 7,000 years previous, maybe.
02:51:09.000Well, by studying genetics, I believe that they've found several extinction events in the human genome, like they've isolated several events.
02:51:18.000I don't understand the science behind this, so I really am talking like extremely deep out of my ass.
02:51:23.000But I believe they've shown that when studying the DNA from different human beings of all over the world, they've concluded that there have been several times where the human species has gotten very low, as low as like a few thousand people.
02:51:39.000And that, you know, we probably had a big number and then a much smaller number.
02:51:43.000And it got as low as a few thousand people, and then we had to recover.
02:51:47.000It's amazing what they found out just by studying genes, you know?
02:51:50.000Well, isn't this kind of like one of the ideas of, like, the Freemasons or the Rosy Crucians or the secret societies is that the information from a very long time ago has been kept secret?
02:52:13.000Which is that fucking crazy, goddamn...
02:52:16.000If you look at the street configurations of Washington, D.C. Have you seen that shit where it's like an anatomically correct eyeball looking out over a pyramid just like the eye and the dollar bill?
02:53:10.000It's real weird when you look at, like, the money, and you see the fucking all-seeing eye in a pyramid on, you know, the cap of the pyramid is the all-seeing eye.
02:53:19.000I mean, look, man, printing it on money, okay, but how about putting it into the goddamn geography of the fucking capital of the country that you made...
02:53:29.000Trying to embody the ideals that, you know, you knew.
02:53:33.000And you've encoded into the fucking very patterns.
02:53:37.000I mean, look, man, there's a goddamn monolith, the Washington Monument, an obelisk, an Egyptian fucking obelisk rising up out of our nation's capital.
02:53:56.000What's even crazier is that Egypt at one point in time was thriving and then there was nothing there.
02:54:05.000They showed up and the Sphinx was covered up to its neck.
02:54:09.000Like during the age of Napoleon, when they first found it, it was like fucking everything was abandoned.
02:54:14.000They'd already looted all these different tombs.
02:54:16.000Who knows how much really incredible shit was melted down for gold baubles and shit when they didn't understand historical worth.
02:54:23.000Well, I mean, dude, like, one thing that, like, over time, that time has proven again and again and again is that shit doesn't always work out great for the smart people with good ideas.
02:54:36.000You end up getting thrown into basements by dumb people who are like, what the fuck are you talking about, Galileo?
02:56:05.000Mushroom symbolism in so many different places.
02:56:07.000And there were so many images of people in bliss, naked in bliss, covered in a mushroom.
02:56:13.000They would be in a transparent mushroom.
02:56:15.000These are like fucking ancient paintings, man.
02:56:17.000Well, I mean, yeah, it's definitely like, we do know that they're encoded into the fucking framework of our society and the goddamn architecture of our society with some very odd symbols.
02:56:28.000Like, if you look at the cathedrals, you will find Gnostic symbols.
02:56:34.000Chicken gods, Abraxas, you can see Abraxas in some cathedrals.
02:57:00.000For some reason, the creepiest goddamn information-gathering surveillance company that's ever climbed out of the shadows or been exposed happened to name themselves after a Gnostic God with a chicken head.