On this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast, the boys talk about the death of Griselda Blanco, the cocaine cowgirl lady, and the best way to workout outside of wrestling. Also, we talk about AlphaBrain, a new supplement that has been shown to increase your brain's ability to remember sentences and increase the amount of information it can send to the brain's neurotransmitters. We also talk about battle ropes, kettlebells, and battle rope training and how to make your own. Joe also talks about a new song he's been listening to a lot and how he's going to make it in the music industry. The Joe Rogans Experience Podcast is brought to you by Onnit. Onnit is a company that makes a bunch of stuff that I use to get better at everything I do, and I'm here to endorse it. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE on Apple Podcasts and leave us a rating and review! Subscribe to the show Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices. Like, comment and tell a friend about what you're listening to this podcast. Peace, Blessings, Cheers. Cheers, Joe and G.J. XOXO. - The Jerks. Namaste -Jon & Rory "The Jerks" -Jon and Rory "The Crew" and "The Cheers" "Tune in to this Podcast! and Share it on Anchor.co/TheJoe Rogans Podcast Subscribe on Podchronicity. and Subscribe to our social media! Subscribe and Retweets! Thank you for listening to the pod, Like, Share it so we can spread the word out to the Interned Podcasts & Share it around the Internship? We'll be spreading the word about the podcast! - Jon Rogan Podcasts Podcast, Gorms, Gynn & Rory Mclean & The Crew? - Tom and Rory Mcgregor Thank You! & much more! (and much more!! -Rory Mclean & Cozy , and much more... - - OJ & Rory Rogans, and more! - The Crew - Thank you, Jon & Rory, and so much more. -Jon Rogan, the Crew, and his Crew ( )
00:00:45.000We make alpha brain and a bunch of shit that I talk about on the podcast all the time.
00:00:49.000The one thing I can tell you is everything that we sell at Onnit.com is all stuff that I've used, I believe in, I endorse.
00:00:58.000I wouldn't get behind anything that wasn't legit.
00:01:01.000And the fascinating thing to me about AlphaBrain is that all the information from nootropics, if you're interested in the subject of nootropics, which is nutrients that have been shown to have a positive effect on human neurochemistry.
00:01:19.000The idea is that your brain produces more juice.
00:01:23.000You have more ability to string together sentences.
00:01:43.000What I've found is that I benefit greatly from, I take a lot of vitamins, and I take a lot of really what I believe are very effective supplements, and I eat a lot of really good food.
00:01:53.000You've got to be healthy, because if you don't, this motherfucker will fail on you.
00:01:57.000It will fall apart, you'll crash into the rocks, like you've got to keep it together, bitches.
00:02:04.000The company is basically set up, everything we sell is stuff that will improve you.
00:02:09.000The strength and fitness equipment, kettlebells and battle ropes is like the best way you could ever work out.
00:02:15.000If you want to develop functional strength that directly translates into any athletic endeavor, kettlebells and battle ropes are fantastic.
00:02:24.000Battle ropes are these giant fucking ropes and you flail them through the air and you do it for like sprints of 30 seconds and oh it's brutal.
00:02:32.000So those and kettlebells, they will last you to the end of time.
00:02:37.000The battle ropes, you can't get them any cheaper than you can get it at onit.com.
00:02:41.000And the kettlebells, as cheap as you can humanly sell them, we're sending cannonballs through the mail.
00:03:21.000If you can make your own, make your own.
00:03:23.000If you've got some extra giant rope laying around, you can probably do it with chains, too, if you want to go fucking crazy Rampage Jackson style.
00:05:58.000Like, talk show, like, Tonight Show thing would be, as soon as the guests walk in the stage door backstage, they should just be getting filmed, and then play pieces of that.
00:06:40.000Go fucking Daily Show, Tonight Show, Letterman, Conan, you know, and then start working your way down until you're on like Jimmy, what's the guy who does the late, late NBC show?
00:07:21.000When I catch it, I'm interested because he does pick little random cards out of the blue that maybe you haven't heard of, like music-wise at least, or movie-wise.
00:09:33.000And the idea that you have to do a commercial at a certain time, like Opie and Anthony have commercials, but they just talk until they're done.
00:09:40.000And then they go, alright, you guys want to take a break?
00:09:42.000Let's take a break, play some commercials, we'll be right back.
00:09:46.000It's like you're watching separate shows.
00:09:48.000You're watching one hour and a half show where they didn't go to commercial, and then another hour show where they didn't go to commercial, and then they'll go to commercial.
00:09:54.000And also, you don't get the sense with Opie and Anthony or podcasts...
00:10:00.000That we're talking the way two human beings talk.
00:10:03.000There's a rhythm and there's a pace, and there's not high IQ moments every three seconds.
00:10:09.000Like when you watch a monologue in an interview, you had 20 writers mapping every word.
00:10:14.000So to me it's off-putting, and I think it is to a lot of Americans.
00:20:23.000They're just, you know, they're just trying to masturbate to heighten their experience so they don't have to think about that for a brief moment.
00:20:37.000I kind of get weary, too, when I see somebody who works way too hard and never lets up on themselves, I always think, you're fucking hiding from something.
00:20:46.000No balance, no real relationships, just...
00:20:48.000Yeah, people can definitely get crazy.
00:20:51.000Well, it's hard because you get so focused on success, and then you're dealing with a bunch of other ruthless motherfuckers who are focused on success, so you have to up your game.
00:21:02.000That's like the whole drive of modern man.
00:22:09.000Shit like what you do, flow, getting into exercise, getting into martial arts, getting into, if you're a writer, getting lost in something, that's the other 30%.
00:22:19.000So you have to strive to control that 30% by not letting the 20% get any bigger and giving yourself the room to, you know, have that balance.
00:22:31.000And it seems like exercise is like the number one thing.
00:24:39.000Because just like when you have this conversation with me and I know exactly what you're saying because I speak English, I knew exactly what they were saying.
00:25:38.000You are observing yourself all the time, and the guy that's observing you is the fucking asshole.
00:25:44.000He's the one that's socializing you and getting you to do what's appropriate, which you need to a certain degree, but the balance within that, I think it's the distance between the two voices.
00:26:08.000Yeah, well, you know, there is the momentum life, and then there's the, every now and then, your, like, objective assessment of the life that you're living on momentum.
00:26:17.000Like, sometimes your just life is on momentum for, like, long slides, and then you need, like, another perspective on yourself.
00:26:33.000I think that those reset situations that you can get in life, whether they're a strong yoga class, whether it's a DUI. That could do it too, yeah.
00:31:47.000I mean, he realized that he was going to go to jail for three fucking years.
00:31:50.000You know what sucks about that is, that ain't going to change the dude, and that ain't going to change any other domestic abuser.
00:31:56.000Putting people in jail, it's like, why isn't there more like...
00:32:00.000You know, especially in the inner city where you see people with less father figures and you see more violence, to really make it a part of schools that you learn how to respect women, how to respect, you know, the opposite sex, because it is something that is cyclical and it is cultural.
00:32:17.000You see a higher instance of domestic abuse with poor people.
00:32:20.000And, you know, that shit, jail doesn't change that shit.
00:32:25.000Yeah, it's not like it's a great place where they're going to sit around and do ayahuasca and find their spirit self and realize where they went wrong on their path to enlightenment.
00:33:55.000I mean, I don't have anything against corrections officers.
00:33:58.000It's a terrible place to be, to be just completely surrounded by people who are locked in a cage, and you're not, and you walk amongst them all the time, and they can just take a fucking free run at you at any moment.
00:34:09.000You live your life in constant stress.
00:34:12.000Yeah, I don't envy them by any stretch of the imagination.
00:34:14.000I think that if you're going to really take putting someone in a jail and reform seriously, you're going to have to come up with a way better method than what they're doing.
00:35:06.000Trying to figure out how our behavior lends us astray, or leads us astray rather, and how we can try to get it back on track, if it's at all even possible, like as a group of us.
00:35:20.000It's like when you look at just the massive amount of crazy human momentum-type behavior, where we're just on a momentum...
00:35:28.000Like, here's a thing in New York where they had to recently pass something that makes rabbis have to get consent first before they suck your kid's dick.
00:36:08.000There's a guy, it's like, there's this nutty fucking video of this guy defending it, and he explains it in the word, the Hebrew word, which, like, means to suck.
00:36:18.000Like, it strictly says that that's how you're supposed to deal with that.
00:37:25.000Their foreskin makes AIDS? Well, anything that folds back around a gland, like a vagina, basically, collects way more diseases than a penis.
00:37:32.000Men don't catch AIDS almost ever from straight-up sex with a woman who has AIDS. But if you've got a vagina, you've got a really good chance of getting AIDS if you have sex with somebody.
00:37:43.000If you have any kind of tear in your vaginal wall or ceilings or floors or shades or blinds or your lips, slats...
00:37:53.000Do you know that there's a doctor who doesn't believe that?
00:37:56.000It's terrifying when you're too stupid to know who's dumb.
00:38:03.000Because there's this guy, his name is Dr. Peter Duisburg, and I've read all his stuff, and I know that he's a...
00:38:11.000A professor of biology, I believe, at the University of California, Berkeley.
00:38:27.000Yeah, the biggest AIDS country in the world.
00:38:29.000By the way, I meant HIV before when I was talking about transmitting diseases and not AIDS. Well, I am way too stupid to understand who's right and who's wrong, you know, because obviously there's a bunch of geneticists and a bunch of disease specialists who completely disagree with him, and they think that HIV does cause AIDS. I wish I was smart enough to know what the fuck, who's, where it's ridiculous.
00:38:50.000Well, it's all shit happening at a molecular level.
00:38:53.000It's all guesses, but it's percentages.
00:38:56.000And if you say that when we see these symptoms of immune deficiencies happening in people that have lesions and are losing weight, then we often find that before that, that the immune leads to lesions and the outbreak of AIDS. So why not play those odds, since we'll never know the actual truth, if there even is one?
00:39:15.000Do you think that's what they're doing?
00:39:17.000What Dewsburg is saying is that it's linked to partying.
00:39:21.000What he's saying is that it's dudes do like meth and go crazy and poppers and email nitrates.
00:39:28.000Apparently those poppers are unbelievably bad for you.
00:39:36.000Doing that partying on a regular basis like that just wrecks your immune system.
00:39:41.000It's why third world countries get AIDS more is because when you're malnourished and your system is worn down, you tear easier.
00:39:48.000Your tissues break open and your immune system can't fight back as much.
00:39:52.000So it's about wealthy countries get it less because they're in better shape.
00:39:58.000So what you think is that HIV is something that can be avoided?
00:40:03.000I think the likelihood of getting it is increased when your system is worn down and you're malnourished and you don't have enough fluids in you, then you tear and that's where you have more cuts around you because your skin, everything is just not as elastic and strong.
00:42:41.000Yeah, but they closed all these places down so that they're all forced to go to like one place now where it used to be really convenient that like you should be able to go to any doctor, get a test, get all the tests because it's all the blood sent to the same place as these labs.
00:42:56.000But they're not letting them do that anymore, so now they're all forced to go to this one sketchy place, and so there's all these creepy people that hang out there trying to fuck with them and stuff like that.
00:43:06.000Yeah, and it's also, they have to pay for it.
00:43:08.000The actors pay for the test themselves.
00:43:10.000What fucking job that you go to, I mean, first of all, it's a law.
00:43:24.000I mean, there's guys still making money.
00:43:26.000There's, like, the very clever computer guys.
00:43:28.000But you think about, like, the business of pornography and how many people watch pornography and then the fact that all of a sudden no one was paying for it anymore.
00:43:38.000Like, all of a sudden it all just went away.
00:46:48.000And the funny thing was that he had, like, a huge hog, so it's just like...
00:46:51.000It was, like, so weird that, like, I actually knew him before, like, like, we had him on, I had him on a few podcasts, like, I didn't know about it, and so just, like, knowing a guy and then finding out he was in porn, and then seeing his, his hog.
00:47:03.000Well, that happened with me with, you know, Simon Rex from MTV? Simon Rex.
00:47:08.000He was, like, one of the original VJs on MTV. Yeah, doesn't he, he has another name now?
00:47:52.000Fuck machine is called fuckingmachines.com I think it is and it's actually robots that fuck but they're like really high powered like you know like dildos that shoot in and out of them at like 80 miles per hour and they can't control it like they're tied down so like there's somebody sitting there going yeah I'm gonna fuck you hard and like it's really crazy like Dana Dear Mom did it and it seems like you can break your pussy Yeah.
00:48:19.000That's a good way to get your pussy all broken.
00:48:21.000Some machine, robot, metal dick just fucking stabbing you.
00:49:15.000And what's weird is that what is like the algorithm in your brain that wants, like when you talk about different, like I used to love Asian chicks.
00:49:33.000So then I move on to the casting couch, and I start to wonder on a deeper level, what is it about my personality or my brainwaves that attracts me to a specific thing?
00:49:44.000And then what is it that has so broken down the social order that people respond to machines fucking?
00:49:50.000It's like the flesh, the softness, the humanity has been stripped away, and all that's left is the violent part of fucking.
00:49:58.000Have you heard of this new discovery at Harvard?
00:53:55.000When they look back in history, when life is like Battlestar Galactica, fucking for real, and we really are fighting off these intelligent robots that we created, this will be the day where people look at this and go...
00:54:25.000Because the guy is a clone who's telling you about it.
00:54:27.000Yeah, and the amazing thing is that you look at, like, I went to the Santa Monica Promenade the other day, and they come out of the five-story parking garage with a line of cars at two different stations.
00:57:43.000You light your dick on fire and stick it in the cake.
00:57:47.000That is one of the nicest qualities about those old American muscle cars was those big, long, giant hoods when you wax the car and then it rained and the water beaded up on that thing and you just kind of swipe the water off.
01:00:33.000But there's something about dudes that guys can, for whatever stupid reason, really viscerally connect with the sound of an engine of a car.
01:00:42.000And that kind of 1970s, late 1960s classic rock.
01:02:07.000Because there's all these new crazy gas efficiency laws that are coming out, and it's really hard to make the same gas guzzler type engines.
01:02:16.000And by the time, I think it's 2016, I believe it is, every car is going to have to be above 35 miles a gallon.
01:02:25.000That's going to be the industry standard.
01:02:28.000So all these cars, like these Mustangs and shit, you won't be able to buy them just in a few years from now.
01:05:46.000Wouldn't it be funny if Greg and his wife didn't really have sex at all anymore, but he had written all these stories, but he gets them crossed up, and he doesn't realize he told us this one already, but it was a little different before.
01:07:37.000That's one of the things in this happy movie.
01:07:39.000It talks about how the pain, the thing that you think is going to be losing your job, going broke, even getting kicked out of your house, it's never as bad as you think it's going to be, and the fear of it happening controls so much of your actions.
01:10:17.000My two best friends that I grew up with, two biggest fucking troublemakers, because I'm shooting it in Tyree Town, New York, and these guys, I can't even get into what they fucking did, because one of them is the town judge, the other guy's the fire chief.
01:13:22.000But Newton is kind of right and wrong side of the tracks, isn't it?
01:13:25.000Well, my side of the tracks was we just lived in a really cheap house in a pretty decent neighborhood.
01:13:31.000I mean, it was a cute little neighborhood, but the house was a piece of shit, and my parents bought the house so that we could be in the neighborhood so they could get us into a good school system.
01:13:40.000Because we were in Jamaica Plain before that, which was really shady.
01:14:13.000Right next to JP. And it was like, you weren't in Dorchester, but you could get your drugs there.
01:14:18.000And, you know, there was, like, people that had got just enough money to get out of the really shit neighborhoods made it out to, like, JP. Yeah.
01:14:25.000We would go into Dorchester late at night and buy food at places.
01:15:11.000And they just let this guy creep out in there just hoping that he didn't just blast them, hoping that you didn't catch a man on his last day.
01:15:20.000Because you can, especially if you live in a big city, I guess you can get anywhere.
01:16:10.000It's a stupid thing to get involved with.
01:16:11.000But I think challenging can be a subtle thing, too.
01:16:14.000When I'm walking through New York City all those years, if I'd be in the fucking Lower East Side late at night, three black guys coming from the other direction, not to be racist, but the fucking reality is...
01:16:23.000I can't believe you went there, Gregory.
01:16:25.000...three black guys walking past me in a bad neighborhood, you fucking cross the street, that's dangerous.
01:19:15.000I saw a girl giving head while driving down Pacific in Venice.
01:19:19.000I'm driving home from dinner with my wife, and we're at a red light, and I point to my wife, and the dude is driving an SUV, and all you see is this head, and they're higher than us.
01:19:28.000I can only see the top of the head bobbing up and down.
01:19:30.000And I look at the guy, and he looks at me, and I'm expecting a fucking thumbs up.
01:22:00.000Acoustic with different chord structures, different pitches.
01:22:04.000And it's like, it's fucking, it's not as good, but you're riveted because you're like, wow, this is the fucking sketch that led to this masterpiece.
01:22:13.000So, I mean, not that that would be the equivalent with stand-up, but I think it would be interesting for people to hear maybe what was the roots of a set they already know rather than just a bunch of shit you never did again.
01:22:38.000You know, when they already get on a YouTube clip or something like that, or you see it and you go, ah, but that's like the beginning of it.
01:22:46.000They're always growing up to a certain point, but there's that really fragile time for a bit when you're first doing it, or the first few times you're doing it on stage.
01:22:56.000If one of those got online, you'd be like, ah, that That's a stupid version of that.
01:23:01.000Well, because a lot of times you're talking around the joke.
01:23:02.000You haven't figured out the bare-bones construction of it, and you're describing the joke that it later will become.
01:23:09.000Yeah, that's a very good way of putting it.
01:23:11.000But I think what a lot of people don't know that are watching stand-up comedy is that while you're doing it, you know, you're...
01:23:21.000You're barely even thinking about what you're doing.
01:23:39.000Well, that's what, you know, the whole idea of being in the moment completely zen and locked into how the universe is expressing itself through whatever the fuck is going on.
01:23:50.000Through either stand-up comedy or through music or through car racing.
01:25:33.000He is a killer, and that's the thing about Boston, is the guys that have figured out the sort of formula that works in Boston but are also an original voice, it's just amazing how you can destroy, when it's a match of a comic versus a certain locale, like you take somebody when it's a match of a comic versus a certain locale, like you take somebody like David Cross and put him in San Francisco, boom, locked in, they're going to go
01:25:57.000You go to, you know, Houston with somebody like, you know, like what Bill Hicks was.
01:26:03.000You take a Southern act, you put him down.
01:26:05.000Blue-collar guy, you put him in North Carolina.
01:26:07.000But you take guys like Nick DiPaolo, or this guy, and you put him in Boston, and it's just, it's explosive what happens.
01:30:04.000Well, Barry Crimmins would sit at the bar, and if he didn't like what you were doing, he would yell shit out at you like he was the dean of the club.
01:30:15.000He's a fucking brilliant political guy.
01:30:17.000But back then he was drinking a lot and those guys were on a mission to create a place that they thought was fertile for this type of comedy.
01:30:26.000I was at Catch before I ever did stand up with a friend of mine from high school.
01:31:00.000And I remember leaving thinking, God, I knew he was funny because I'd seen him on TV before.
01:31:05.000He did like five Tonight Shows that year.
01:31:08.000Yeah, but nothing like seeing him live.
01:31:11.000It's such a completely different experience seeing a guy like that live.
01:31:15.000Because he's like, the silliness is not that contagious when it comes to the TV. But when you're in front of that dude, he was fucking crushing.
01:32:27.000Yeah, I grew up in one town over from him, and my dad got him on stage his very first time, because my dad was a big radio guy in New York.
01:33:09.000You know, those early years when you're such a blind, blabbering fucking moron up there trying to, like, you know, hand-feel your way through it.
01:33:19.000Powerful C2O coconut water in the house.
01:33:22.000Yeah, it was a time when I really needed a mentor, and he wasn't a guy that brought me on the road opening for him all the time.
01:33:28.000It was just more of, like you said, I could call him anytime, and here was a guy who was this hot, one hour special on HBO, Uncle Buck comes out, all the money in the world, and I come out to LA and stay with him.
01:35:04.000We were trying to get a campaign to have him apologize to Bert Kreischer.
01:35:08.000Bert Kreischer was on the X show with him that Gene Simmons was on, and he said Gene Simmons treated him more horribly than any human being he'd ever met in his life.
01:36:35.000But, you know, when you hear a story like that, where someone's like super rude to a guy like Burt, and you're like, oh man, that's so hard to hear.
01:37:07.000yeah well they're looking for it because we're storytellers and we all want to go back to our town or back to our friends and go hey I met Joe Rogan and they're going to go really what was he like and the truth is He said hi to you.
01:40:05.000If you are competing with somebody for a food source, if you're an insect, you will start to kill the other insect or you will find a way to destroy the food source for them so that they die.
01:40:17.000But it's that weird thing when people get into tribes, especially, where they become really synchronized as this tribe.
01:40:26.000This is us, and we're going to go after them.
01:40:30.000They never even would consider the idea of taking them into their ranks.
01:40:34.000Like, hey, listen, we're just going to go plunder.
01:42:17.000It's a very strange practice to look at that all the time, you know, and the idea that you're being reminded of the deity, the one perfect being that existed, oh, thousands of years ago, and since then his followers have reverted to pedophilia and fucking craziness and fear.
01:42:35.000I know this comic that has a cross on his arm, and I'm not friends with him, but he always wears those elastic band things on his arm just to cover it up so no one knows.
01:43:21.000Well, it depends on your definition of God, but to think that there's not some power that orchestrated The miracle of, you know, like regenerating DNA, all that shit.
01:43:33.000You know, to think that there's not something that can tell you that I know how big the moon is going to be, at what point in the sky in fucking 50 years and be right.
01:44:11.000You know, certain noises that we recognize with certain images and certain meanings.
01:44:15.000It could be some other form of intelligence.
01:44:18.000It's super possible that the reason why we exist in this ever-changing world and this world is being more and more hostile to people is that it kind of recognizes us as a threat.
01:44:30.000If you have to think of this system has got to be prepared for everything.
01:44:37.000There's a reason why certain animals eat other animals and certain diseases kill certain percentages of the people.
01:44:45.000There's like this crazy corrective system that goes on on Earth.
01:44:50.000And we agree with that up until it gets to people.
01:44:53.000We don't ever want to think that Earth could ever look at us like we might be some fucking cold that it has.
01:45:00.000And that the more we pull the fucking fish out of the ocean and throw our garbage in it, and the more we pollute the sky and change the temperature of it and fuck the whole balance of it up and artificially change the levels of certain things in the environment, we should expect that the Earth is going to respond to this change accordingly.
01:45:25.000I mean, if it is intelligent, if there's some real method to the whole idea of this whole thing evolving from a hot ball of rock and lava and then somehow or another acquiring water and somehow or another cooling down and rolling it.
01:45:42.000Just extrapolating into more matters and more elements and more life forms.
01:45:56.000A social scientist in England, Mills, talked about population naturally controls itself.
01:46:03.000Wars, disease, that there is an actual healthy number of people to be on the earth.
01:46:09.000And because of science, we've been able to just completely fucking hyper-bloat that number of people to the point where we've staved off a natural correction.
01:46:20.000We haven't had war, any real war, in a long time.
01:47:58.000But if you get too close to a bear and he decides for whatever reason that he hasn't eaten in a while and he might see if you're edible, if he's desperate, you can catch a desperate bear.
01:48:08.000Especially late in the year, like when it gets close to like December.
01:48:12.000You know, some of those bears are still walking around.
01:48:14.000Those are the dangerous ones because they're not stuffed yet.
01:48:57.000Ari and Brian walked there and almost got in a fight.
01:49:02.000Yeah, like twice and just waiting in line.
01:49:04.000Everywhere I go, I was like, you know, I didn't like Boston the first like three, two times we went there because we kept on going to that comedy club in that area.
01:49:12.000It's the, well they call it the combat zone.
01:49:16.000And then the last time we went somewhere else, we stayed in this really nice hotel and they were filming a movie and there was all these actors in it.
01:49:21.000But it was like a totally different experience.
01:49:49.000When we were coming up and standing up, it was the combat zone.
01:49:53.000You would walk over there, there would be hookers, it was scary, you'd see people smoking crack, you would see peep show booths, and they slowly squeezed all that shit out.
01:50:23.000When you would go around that little side area where the connection was, the old connection, and go down to the end where Nick's was, every now and then you'd catch a spot.
01:51:58.000Duck Soup was the idea of Billy Downs and Paul Barkley had this idea to put a super upscale comedy club and put it in Boston right there and charge more money and have only clean comedians.
01:52:31.000But I mean, so you're talking about within, literally within a quarter of a mile, you had three, four, five, six comedy rooms, and they were all good.
01:52:53.000What people don't understand, because I always say that when I don't know exactly what I'm going to say next, is that the scene was just...
01:53:00.000To us now, today, looking back on it, you see what's around today.
01:53:27.000He was born in the Santa Cruz area, just as the tech thing was exploding.
01:53:32.000I think it was Santa Cruz, whatever, the UC college had the first mainframe computer.
01:53:37.000As a teenager, he was going in there and writing programs.
01:53:40.000So he was at the beginning of a wave with the exact personality type, and he carried it through and became something that you can't do again.
01:53:49.000Howard Stern was an outlier with radio.
01:53:51.000He became the guy who did all the things you weren't supposed to do in radio.
01:53:59.000And all of a sudden, this wave of syndication of radio stations came about and he fucking caught that wave and took, and with talent.
01:54:07.000This is talent, God-given fucking, you know, a weird recipe for what matches the demands of that time and being in front of the explosion that happens.
01:54:18.000And I believe that we were very much in the outlier spot of stand-up comedy by being in Boston at that time.
01:54:24.000It was a very unusual environment, for sure.
01:54:26.000It's sad that it doesn't exist anymore.
01:54:28.000It's when Franz Salomita put out that documentary, when stand-up stood out.
01:54:32.000And it's really interesting, but I think he kind of nailed it, is that the scene was fantastic until people started making it.
01:54:38.000When everybody just wanted to be funny.
01:55:08.000Had gone anywhere, really, except like, you know, I remember Bud Friedman came to Boston and did a showcase to do Evening at the Improv, and it was like, for months, we were fucking obsessed with our set, and a couple people got it out of it, and that was our closest brush to show business, until you all of a sudden got on this fucking track, and it was like, wow, you can do that from this?
01:55:32.000So you ruined everything that was real.
01:55:36.000Well, everybody thought for some reason that the only way you would ever get on TV is if you were clean.
01:55:40.000And I thought the only way I would ever want to do comedy is if I was funny.
01:56:27.000It could have skid off into the fucking woods and I could have become some kind of a road drunk.
01:56:31.000That's the thing about that time though.
01:56:33.000There was no road map for it and that's what an outlier is.
01:56:35.000It's like you're a pioneer in the sense that you're breaking the rules and yet you're rising up faster than anybody else because things change and there becomes the needs and the demands of the marketplace for whatever it is you do.
01:56:58.000I've also felt like when anything happens to you that's good, then you actually believe that good things can happen.
01:57:05.000For me, it's like believing that something good can happen.
01:57:09.000All I could think of was, well, if I keep working at this, more good things can happen.
01:57:14.000I'm on a roll, and I don't want to stop this roll.
01:57:18.000And so I think, you know, when you're a young guy and, you know, your life has been like kind of like half sketchy, filled with a lot of fucking failures, all relationship failures, all just different failures that you go through.
01:57:32.000and then you're on stage and you're trying to do comedy.
01:57:36.000Just trying to make sense of that aspect of your past.
01:57:40.000When you look back on your life of being an open-miker and the wild experience of trying to fucking do that for a living, it doesn't even feel like it's you, does it?
01:57:53.000It feels like you're accessing memories that were copied a hundred times over and they're real shitty and you're like, I think it was this guy...
01:58:27.000And then I'd get up at the crack of dawn and do fucking banquet waitering and then I would go audition for some cold call bullshit downtown.
01:58:34.000I mean, it was not like now where I gotta pace myself, pick my battles.
01:58:38.000Back then it was, no, every fucking battle, I'm in.
01:58:41.000Yeah, and somewhere along the line, I think, as a stand-up comedian, you forget that this was a terrifying time.
01:58:49.000Like, those times that you talk about were terrifying.
01:59:27.000And all of a sudden I felt in a way like that made me grow up in six months more than I did in four years in college because it was all my creation.
01:59:38.000Yeah, that's one of the most important things about really finding yourself is putting something down and then being able to look at it and go, I got that.
02:02:34.000I mean, it's not like you write a freestanding joke, then have to write another...
02:02:38.000I mean, you find something, and you explore it, and you extend it, and then by the end, you've got a chunk that's ten minutes.
02:02:45.000So you string together six of those, you've got an hour.
02:02:47.000And I know there's more life to shit sometimes, but I put some stuff on a special before, and then right after it's in, you're like, oh, you motherfucker.
02:03:48.000That was, these people had like, they must have owned a museum or some shit, but they had a fountain that was so big they converted it into a swimming pool.
02:04:17.000Anytime I'm in that part of the world, you go down below San Francisco, they got a thing called the Seven Mile Drive, which is where Pebble Beach Golf Club is.
02:04:23.000And I really do think that there is not a more beautiful place.
02:04:29.000But I feel like you can actually afford to live in a place along the jagged California coast where the weather is fucking perfect all the time.
02:05:25.000Well, it's like, it's tough because those John Wayne type guys, they come from an era where, you know, men were manly and it was simple and it was black and white.
02:06:04.000There was something weird about it, you know, just all the crazy talk about him being a conservative and conservatives and we just try to, you know, play our cards closer to our vest.
02:06:13.000Like, what are you getting wrapped up with?
02:07:22.000The New Yorker did this piece last month about this guy who was a serial marathon liar and he had a website about raising money for kids with fucking Down syndrome and support him.
02:07:31.000This guy is a dentist in a small town in Michigan who everybody loves and he's got this whole reputation about being this marathon runner who's going to run in all 48...
02:07:40.000In the continental U.S. And he's going to do a marathon on each one.
02:09:40.000If he's lying about that, what else is he going to lie about?
02:09:43.000His numbers for the economy are a fucking joke.
02:09:46.000They've been debunked by bipartisan committees in Congress because he introduced this whole new economic recovery plan and it was looked at and they said, this is horse shit.
02:10:27.000He wants the entire new health care program Take it away.
02:10:31.000He wants to privatize Social Security, which again has been shown in study after study after study is a worst case scenario.
02:10:39.000You're taking a fund of money that people have paid into with a very nominal broker with a service fee built into a 0.04% or whatever, and you're saying, okay, everyone grab theirs, give it to a broker who's going to take 5%.
02:10:54.000You're bloating This one industry because they've lobbied you.
02:12:01.000That's where it's supposed to make some sense.
02:12:03.000And the idea, though, that you're going to be able to make something like a dollar bill that can't be reproduced by somebody with nefarious means, of course they're going to be able to figure that out, man.
02:12:13.000As technology gets better, they're not going to be able to hold off that whole print and press thing.
02:12:17.000People are going to figure out how to make money.
02:12:19.000To this day, I forget what the Iraqi currency is.
02:16:42.000He went to Vietnam for three and a half years, came back, did his 21 years in the Navy, and now he's like, yeah, I get $120 a month in fucking benefits.
02:16:52.000He goes, they cut all the benefits that you promised, including going to the VA hospital to get your glasses, dental, all that shit's gone.
02:17:14.000We did it for this Institute for Traumatic Brain Injury, I believe it's called.
02:17:19.000They're building some huge thing, so they had to raise money for it.
02:17:22.000So the UFC fights raised a lot of money for it.
02:17:25.000But one of the things I was thinking of is how crazy is it that there's these billion dollar deals that these people like Halliburton or these companies rather like Halliburton get.
02:17:40.000The fact that they can profit off the war and not be giving anything back in the form of some, at least, you know, do what a charity's doing.
02:17:55.000That's exactly why it's privatized because the U.S. government allows itself to be buffered from, number one, if there's a rape overseas, it does not get processed in U.S. courts.
02:18:06.000They've got all illegal people working the jobs.
02:18:09.000They tell these girls in the Philippines, Halliburton does, through another agency, that they're going to get a job doing hairstyling and they're going to make $40,000 a year.
02:18:17.000They take them off and they're working at fucking Burger King in the Mideast.
02:18:22.000Sleeping in fucking tankers and paying off the money they had to pay to get over there for like five or six years before they make a dollar.
02:18:39.000Because it's not the U.S. government because the U.S. government is subcontracting to Halliburton so that any kind of lawsuits that come in, they don't touch the U.S. government.
02:18:50.000And so they're not paying out to the soldiers because they have no real relationship to them.
02:18:54.000They figured out a way to do slavery without chains.
02:19:18.000Dubai brings in people from, I don't know, I can't remember what country it is, but they bring them in on these, they're not even, they're like work visas that are like a week long.
02:19:31.000And the second you're done with your work, you're gone.
02:19:33.000It's just, you don't earn your way in.
02:19:36.000And so it's something like, you know, three quarters of the workforce is not from that country.
02:19:41.000And they just have these sprawling fucking camps that people live in.
02:19:44.000And then they kick them out as soon as they're out instantly.
02:20:22.000And there was something that he had on his Twitter page that showed how CNN had some stories about the Arab Spring uprising in Bahrain, and they decided not to air it.
02:20:37.000And apparently Bahrain is fucked up, man.
02:20:40.000People started to make YouTube videos of it and put them online because there's not enough interest.
02:22:16.000It's just not the same sort of animal that was around when we grew up.
02:22:20.000When we grew up, even if you didn't believe in God, if it made no sense, you hedged your bet.
02:22:25.000You went along with everything and you know you believe it is real.
02:22:28.000I did all that shit I was supposed to do Even if you don't have a whole ton of faith in it You don't have the kind of access to it Or we didn't rather have the kind of access to information the kids have today because if they have a question about anything Like why is the sky blue they Google why is the sky blue?
02:22:40.000I mean kids just are growing up doing that now So they ever have a quite you can't just bullshit them.
02:22:45.000Yeah Yeah, but you're assuming the internet stays as free as it is now.
02:22:50.000I mean, just by saying Google, you know, so many people get their information from two portals.
02:22:54.000You've got Wikipedia and Google, and if those are, you know, Google is part of a multinational corporation, and eventually they're going to rein it in because of corporate sponsors or because the same pressure CNN gets to not put out stuff about Bahrain.
02:23:06.000Any big company is ultimately going to be affected by the people that are running it.
02:23:11.000Did you hear that some of those leet hacker dudes hacked into an FBI laptop and found the names of 14 million Apple iOS users?
02:24:28.000It's like back when dial tone phones came online.
02:24:32.000See, before dial tones, we all remember when you were a really little kid, you had to spin that dial, which is really alien to people today.
02:24:39.000But when you dial the number, you go...
02:24:45.000And then they came out with a dial tone situation.
02:24:48.000But what someone realized somewhere along the line is that there's a computer or something interfacing on the other end that's responding to the tones, and those tones represent a number.
02:24:58.000So let's find out what those tones represent, and then we can fucking do whatever we want and have access to free, unlimited, long-distance calling.
02:25:06.000Because remember back then, you couldn't get long distance.
02:25:52.000But this Kevin Mitnick guy, he started out doing that and then eventually went to being some sort of a full-blown hacker.
02:25:59.000But to go from that to be able to experience what's going on right now must be really incredible to witness.
02:26:06.000Well, there's a group that he is actually opposed to.
02:26:09.000There's a group that identifies itself as the somethings, and they are an international web of hackers that get off on doing it, and they've done everything.
02:26:37.000They out corporations and they blackmail them.
02:26:40.000And so the bottom line is you're never going to get the talent on the payrolls that is going to be out there because they're independent-minded people.
02:29:14.000And that's why there's all these psychological, like, fail-safes that are set up into our system that, you know, You're not supposed to have too much power.
02:29:22.000It's supposed to be like a whole checks and balances system to make sure that people don't get out of hand because they do naturally.
02:29:27.000And if someone all of a sudden can check your phone, someone all of a sudden can read all your emails, they're going to.
02:29:32.000Yeah, and the bottom line is right now that seems safe because there's no imminent threat.
02:29:35.000But you see a guy like Rick Perry become president and load up the fucking FBI and CIA with his people.
02:29:41.000They're going to go, we want the Christian values protected in this country.
02:29:44.000And they're going to start going after the guys that put their dicks online.
02:29:47.000And you're going to be fucking, you know, I'm not going to be rounded up.
02:29:50.000And that's when Anonymous is way more intelligent than the government.
02:29:54.000You know, their hackers are way better than shitwoke.
02:30:01.000The idea that the civilization will be taken over through the internet.
02:30:05.000And that the internet, because everything is going to be run through the internet, they would figure out some way of having a constantly changing code that you can never crack.
02:30:14.000And they use it to just manipulate wealth.
02:30:17.000And then as long as you keep your shit together, they keep everything running smooth.
02:30:21.000Yeah, but look what Israel did to Iran's internet.
02:30:41.000There's got to be a fail-safe in place for every country and an overall scheme.
02:30:46.000I mean, there's no way somebody's not had the foresight to put that stuff in.
02:30:51.000Yeah, it's kind of amazing when you stop and think about the ultimate goal of all this stuff is to connect us all in some really fucking strange way.
02:31:00.000You know, the ultimate goal of all this technology is that there's not going to be any privacy in a decade.
02:31:30.000Well, you know, the idea that has been proposed is that if you get a computer that's strong enough and wrap your head around this because this is really hard to fucking absorb...
02:31:38.000That if you get a computer that's strong enough to record everything that has happened in this world, like every person that exists in this world, every business that's been created, and put all of this into a data bank, And extrapolate over a period of no more than X amount of days or hours that if this computer,
02:32:01.000given enough data, knowing the characteristics of all these people, which eventually there'll be no limitations when it comes to processing power and no limitations when it comes to storage space, you literally will be able to store everything that ever happens.
02:32:15.000And that this computer with just a few weeks of data might be able to go backwards mathematically and tell you the absolute accurate origins of life on Earth.
02:32:26.000That it might literally, by studying things not just on a physical level but like on a subatomic level, there might be enough information that they could figure out pretty accurately what happened, like how a human being even came from the primordial slime, how it got to be a human.
02:32:44.000It might be able to show you the birth of culture.
02:32:48.000It might be able to show you with a supercomputer what's caused all of this.
02:32:52.000How did this cause that and that caused this.
02:32:55.000It might be something that you could figure out mathematically.
02:32:58.000Well, what's amazing is how slow evolution is.
02:33:03.000I mean, physical evolution takes so long, you can't even wrap your head around the amount of time that it would take for hair to not grow on your nose.
02:33:19.000One of the things that they're finding out is that in some instances it takes place much quicker than they expected, like in the Congo.
02:33:25.000The Congo's a rare spot because it used to be grasslands, but then it became a rainforest pretty quickly, and a lot of animals got trapped that are grasslands animals, like antelopes and stuff.
02:33:36.000They got trapped in the Congo, and some of them learned how to fucking swim.
02:34:37.000And you wonder about shit like, you know, they got that nuclear power plant down the coast here, and they talk about the changes in the fish around there because there's a certain amount of heat that emanates from the power plant into the ocean, and they say that there's been a change in the looks of some of the fish.
02:34:57.000I wonder what happens if you eat, I mean, I think it would be really bad for the fish to get all that radioactivity, but how bad is it for you to eat like a radioactive halibut?
02:35:06.000Well, that's why they say don't eat old fish.
02:36:06.000She didn't send up any wacko radar on my side.
02:36:09.000You know, I'm one of those guys that I'll listen to anybody.
02:36:12.000Anybody telling any crazy conspiracy theory, I'll listen, you know, for the most part.
02:36:16.000But I know when people are just, like, really reaching, and she wasn't.
02:36:20.000But she's, you know, she was on that show with, like, Elizabeth Hafenbach, who's, like, the really hot chick, who's, like, super Republican.
02:36:26.000They would go to war about, you know, like, Tower 7 and 9-11 conspiracies, and ugh.
02:36:41.000I think she said, I forget, not a full-on defense, but sort of like way more than he should have gotten.
02:36:48.000But here's the thing about, I think being somebody who is an alternate lifestyle person...
02:36:53.000Is that you have to depart from the status quo to be who you really are.
02:36:58.000And I think with that, you get some clarity and some truth in your life that you can apply to other things, conspiracy theories or whatever, because she's different.
02:37:07.000So I think once you're labeled different, it frees you in a way.
02:38:13.000We were supposed to do shows in Vegas, and I was supposed to have a UFC in Vegas, but the fight got canceled, so we moved it to the Ice House.
02:38:20.000Do you go up there much besides when you do my shows there?
02:39:36.000And don't think that we don't appreciate the fuck out of that, because I know people that are scared of their audiences, and they don't want to hang out with their audience.
02:40:15.000But he was talking about how he was there, and he was talking to someone who is a sergeant, some guy had been there for a while, and saying, well, we're over here to fight for freedom and all that stuff.
02:40:26.000And the guy goes, what the fuck are you talking about?
02:40:41.000And he remembers, you know, talking about like, he was talking about how he remembers that that was just like a shattering moment in his life.
02:40:47.000He was like, holy shit, this isn't a movie.
02:40:58.000Every war that we've ever fought, there's been another reason.
02:41:01.000Yeah, but that one, you know, especially the people that joined after 9-11, there's a lot of people that joined that really thought they were going to do a difference.
02:41:08.000They really thought they were going to go straight fucking war hero style and reclaim America.
02:41:14.000Yeah, but don't you think that's true of every war we've gotten into?
02:41:18.000I think the reason why they had to draft people in Vietnam was because Vietnam was a super unpopular war that we probably never could get off today.
02:41:25.000With the internet, you wouldn't be able to pull off that sort of Gulf of Tonkin incident.
02:41:30.000They would have to actually have a real event.
02:41:40.000That happened 22 months before we declared war.
02:41:44.000That was just an excuse we used because we were an emerging nation, we wanted to be one of the big boys, and there was this war going on, and we said, fuck, if Germany wins, we were making a ton of money supplying the Allied forces, and if they lost, we were never going to get, they owed us fucking billions in debt.
02:42:04.000If they lost, we weren't getting that money.
02:42:06.000We went in there to hedge our bets and make sure that it went the right way.
02:43:22.000You've got to be willing to take shit to the very, very highest human level.
02:43:27.000And that includes doing horrific things to your enemy.
02:43:30.000I mean, if you ever read the accounts of what the American soldiers did to American Indians, to the Native Americans when they were trying to clear out land, they did some horrendous thing.
02:43:41.000They would wear women's vaginas on their hats.
02:44:56.000But what you don't look at is, you know, what Great Britain did around the world, whether you're talking about Africa, Asia, India.
02:45:05.000You know, the amount of people that died in the name of Manifest Destiny or Christianity, you know, the British are truly, per capita, have committed more atrocities than any race in history.
02:45:18.000And yet, WASPs in this country, it doesn't get any better.
02:46:19.000It became the place because it warmed the fuck up and there's hot chicks and everybody went.
02:46:24.000It became like the fastest growing economy in the world for a while.
02:46:28.000Yeah, we have to accept the fact that this whole planet spins in a weird way and it goes through cycles where shit gets really fucking cold.
02:47:43.000That shit was, you know, we go into cenotes and you go down 100 feet and they're showing you in the caves all of these fucking, you know, that the ocean, basically there was a tsunami that landed on that area and it took thousands of years for the water to drain through that land again.
02:48:00.000And it was just, it was fucking underwater.
02:48:02.000They're finding hundreds of cities in Europe, in the oceans.
02:48:07.000They're finding the remnants on a constant basis.
02:48:11.000It's happening, I said hundreds, but it's really been dozens.
02:48:14.000But it really has been super frequent that they're finding more and more of these ancient civilizations that are underwater.