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00:04:13.000And why grant words that much dominion over your emotions and stuff?
00:04:17.000Like, just the trigger of a sound is enough to make you fucking lose your shit and protest or write a letter.
00:04:23.000Yeah, it's like we're almost agreeing that...
00:04:27.000The heights that you could reach at your worst, at your nastiest, the way you feel about someone, is not really reached with regular language.
00:04:33.000We have to reserve those extreme moments for one extreme word.
00:04:38.000And if we don't do that, we're never going to adequately portray how fucking mad we are.
00:05:41.000His wife was wearing bubblegum pink and had a funny Penelope Pitstop hairdo and giant lips and earrings and was like a delightful cartoon of what a rock star's wife would be in a comic book.
00:06:13.000And I realize, as I look through my act frantically outside, I... And profane in every setup.
00:06:20.000I'm going to have to calculatedly think and work really hard to remove the profane from every single line.
00:06:27.000And then, of course, I did it, and I don't think I slipped, but I did a joke about Obama or something, and they were a little more rich than that at one point.
00:06:35.000And I went, that joke's really funny if you're blue-collar.
00:06:39.000And then they laughed at that, the acknowledgement to that.
00:07:12.000Although I appreciate there's a different art form to crafting a really nice seven-minute set for, like, a Tonight Show set or something like that.
00:07:19.000I mean, I know a lot of guys who are awesome at that.
00:07:36.000Well, I think it's an awesome opportunity for comics to get seen, and for the longest time, it was, like, the best one.
00:07:42.000Like, if you could get on Carson, you know, and Carson have you come down, sit next to him on the couch, like, you were a fucking winner, man.
00:07:49.000And you could pack comedy clubs from that.
00:07:51.000Yeah, but this is sort of a different time, and now it's a very limiting thing, and it seems silly.
00:07:57.000The whole pageantry of it seems silly.
00:08:00.000The band playing when people walk out and sit down.
00:08:03.000And this weird conversation in front of people.
00:08:06.000I mean, I enjoy doing them, but they're an odd art form.
00:08:10.000There's an odd fakery weirdness to the whole thing that's not necessary anymore.
00:08:15.000Well, there's almost a 50s-ness about it.
00:08:17.000It's one of the first TV shows, you know?
00:08:20.000Because I don't know that there were lots of famous chat shows on the radio.
00:08:25.000There was lots of famous variety shows and every other kind of show, but I don't remember hearing about ones where people sat around and talked.
00:08:31.000It seems to be a function of television.
00:08:33.000Because it's so cool, as they say, right?
00:08:35.000That because you're kicked back and detached and watching it, you can sit and watch people just go, blah, blah, blah, my book.
00:10:13.000The guy tweeted me and said, because I do definitions on my show, like, lately I've been doing political ones like democracy and, you know, Like, let's talk about feminism, things like that.
00:10:23.000Like, people say it a lot, you hear it a lot, but not everybody knows what it actually, the dictionary definition, like, where we're supposed to start with it.
00:12:31.000But they're starting to figure out now that there was so much travel that even Neanderthals were using boats and that they might have even been using boats before people, before Homo sapiens.
00:12:42.000I subscribe to that and I will further that theory and say that I think that all the preconceived notions about people not intermingling with each other and meeting each other are nonsense and that people did it since people could make a boat, basically.
00:12:57.000And that the coastlines of all the continents have...
00:13:01.000They were lower tens of thousands of years ago, and people lived in those places, and those places are covered with water, so we cannot find all the stuff that was there.
00:13:11.000I know it's sounding like a kook, but I mean...
00:14:41.000Because, you know, I was in New Zealand, and the Maoris came down there and wiped out whatever was there before them in the Middle Ages, and then the white people came after them.
00:16:56.000The author says, a sailor today would be hard-pressed to make that kind of time.
00:17:02.000He's made time because that thing they said about Columbus for all of his shortcomings and his ego, he could dead reckon nobody in the business.
00:17:52.000When I was in college, I had heard something about bashing babies and killing babies and all the different things that they did to the Native Americans.
00:18:04.000They definitely burned people and hung them and stuff and cut their nose.
00:18:06.000After you fucked them, you didn't want to see them around anymore.
00:21:52.000It was always those scenes in the movies where a guy would ride up on a horse with a decree, and they'd open it up, and then they'd have to figure out.
00:22:01.000Then they killed him, and then they were at war.
00:22:03.000What a bunch of crazy assholes people are.
00:23:32.000I want to say that it was the Amanita Muscaria, that one that always gets connected to religion and Santa Claus and all that, that red and white one.
00:24:07.000And in the eyes of many people who have examined it, it represents Santa Claus.
00:24:14.000And the reason why Santa Claus has this red and white outfit is because that's the colors of the Amanita muscaria mushroom.
00:24:21.000The reason why the Christmas tree, which is a coniferous tree, has these brightly covered packages underneath it is because these mushrooms have a mycorrhizal relationship with these trees, and they look like bright packages.
00:24:34.000And they show up in their bright, shiny packages of red and white underneath the trees.
00:24:38.000The way they dried them out was they would either pick them off and put them in the tree so they would dry in the sun, which is just like the way they decorated the tree, or they would hang them In front of the fireplace to dry them out, which is exactly what the stockings over the fireplace and why the fucking stockings are red and white.
00:25:11.000The older you go, when you go back to really ancient depictions of these mushrooms, The older you go, the more often you see these mushrooms around elves in Christmas tree, Christmas cards and things along those lines.
00:25:44.000That had to be the one the Vikings are taking, right?
00:25:46.000They have the tree worship and all that too.
00:25:49.000There was a scholar named John Marco Allegro who was one of the guys who was a decipher of the Dead Sea Scrolls and he wrote two books about it.
00:25:57.000One of them is called The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth and the other one is called The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross and it's all about how the entire Christian religion was based on psychedelic mushroom eating and sex rituals and fertility rituals.
00:26:22.000Yeah, that this mushroom, like, they would find out about how to use it, and they would find out about how to prepare it, and then it would give them this unbelievable psychedelic experience, so they hid all of the waves of preparing it and finding it,
00:26:37.000and apparently it's a very tricky mushroom.
00:26:41.000It's variable genetically, it's variable seasonally, it doesn't always give you the experience.
00:26:46.000So you have to figure out how to find it from what area.
00:26:51.000Some of them will knock your dick into the dirt.
00:26:53.000And some of them do nothing but make you sweat.
00:27:06.000So when you say all Christianity, do you mean like European Christianity where that mushroom exists or did it exist in the Middle East as well?
00:27:13.000Well, this is the Dead Sea Scrolls were all found in Qumran.
00:27:16.000So that's where they were writing this stuff supposedly.
00:27:20.000So at least in that area in Israel, they were taking mushrooms.
00:28:30.000So much so that when they have shamanic rituals in the sweat lodges and they will have these rituals and they'll take these mushrooms and they'll step out to urinate, the reindeer will knock them over to get at their urine snow.
00:28:54.000The shaman, who is red and white, like the Amanita muscaria mushroom, is sitting in a carriage and he's fucking flying with a bunch of deer who are on mushrooms.
00:29:05.000How clear do they have to make the myth that these reindeers are high?
00:29:53.000I've heard about the St. Nicholas and all that, and I was at that little chapel where he supposedly was and everything, and I was like, you don't get a big Santa Claus wintertime, you know, ho-ho-ho, drink a Coca-Cola feel.
00:30:49.000If you obsess about something, you're going to find something in anything.
00:30:52.000That's so true, but this one is really...
00:30:54.000The whole story, like Santa Claus climbing down the chimney, that's how the shaman used to get into the houses when they made the shamanic rituals illegal.
00:31:01.000They used to sneak in because everybody was on the ground watching the door, so they would throw their fucking sack of mushrooms over the chimney, and they would climb down into these people's houses.
00:31:11.000Yeah, I mean, there's so many connections between the whole Santa Claus myth and this mushroom, the ritual of taking this mushroom, especially in Siberia, which is the fucking North Pole!
00:31:23.000Essentially, that's what people look at it as.
00:31:27.000Yeah, the end of the earth, no question.
00:31:29.000If you were living in Siberia and you found a mushroom that would make you trip your fucking balls off.
00:31:33.000Oh, dude, what else is there to do except try to stay warm?
00:31:35.000Yeah, life would be so much more awesome if you found that mushroom.
00:31:46.000It always seemed like the most desperate place.
00:31:48.000I mean, when you lend your name to the bad patch of land in everybody's mind, even when you go to a restaurant, I know my wife, if they put us somewhere bad, I'm like, hey, why are we in Siberia?
00:33:09.000And they showed them all get together, and they followed them on the camera, and they followed them to their trapping routes, where they would stay by themselves for months.
00:33:16.000And they were all fucking really happy.
00:35:04.000And you were living in a cave, and you were much like those choppers in Siberia, because now you're down to, you know, you're in a boat, you probably have fire, maybe you have...
00:35:12.000But to see the sophistication of the drawings, the animation and the depiction of the animals and the imagination, and to see this on a wall from 30,000 years ago, is the connection that, you know...
00:35:27.000It is just yesterday, and it's never different.
00:35:30.000All this technical stuff and all the wonder of your phone and the apps that you can download is nothing.
00:35:38.000I don't mean that you should just not use it.
00:35:40.000I mean, the connection of people, like you say, to what's happening is a little more profound.
00:35:47.000And that's what always gets overlooked.
00:35:49.000It's always like, oh, well, that was then.
00:35:51.000People don't even want to know about a couple of years ago, you know?
00:36:56.000I was reading an article about people who live on an island in Greece who purportedly live to be 100 and all.
00:37:01.000It turns out, of course, they'd inflated their age when the study was done years ago, but they are living to be 90s and close to 100, almost all of them.
00:37:50.000To look at the Mediterranean and drink wine at sunset and be like, I'd kick around in the garden if that was part of it.
00:37:56.000But do you think you'd be happy living there?
00:37:58.000No, I'd be bored senseless after a while.
00:38:01.000You'd have your studies, right, and you'd have your computer if it worked, if it worked there on a remote island in the Mediterranean, but...
00:38:09.000You would have to be into either starting a cult or doing some hardcore drugs.
00:38:14.000That's the only way you would really...
00:39:18.000He's like cooking them, and like freebasing them, and getting them down to like, he's like purifying them, and doing it to Are you kidding me?
00:41:20.000Well, I hear about people taking them and committing dreadful acts and whatnot.
00:41:25.000Well, it's just they've taken some form of like meth or some intense form of narcotic drug, something, and they'll change it, like change a molecule, add an oxygen molecule, do whatever to it that they have to do in order to make it a different chemical classification.
00:42:30.000Cracked out 60-year-old dude hanging with a 17-year-old girl in the jungle on this fucking insane drug concoction that he's cooked up in his own lab.
00:42:51.000Let me pull up what this drug actually is, just so we...
00:42:59.000Substituted cathinones, which have similar effects to amphetamine and cocaine.
00:43:04.000The white crystals resemble legal bathing products like Epsom salts and are called bath salts with the packaging often stating not for human consumption in an attempt to avoid the prohibition of drugs, but chemically have nothing to do with actual bath salts.
00:43:41.000Yeah, isn't that all the people have psychotic episodes and go furiously mental and kill people?
00:43:47.000Yeah, bite people's faces off and shit.
00:43:49.000Well, they said that that guy, they said he tested positive for marijuana.
00:43:53.000That was one of the things that they were saying, which I found hilarious.
00:43:58.000Because what they didn't say, which is really kind of fucking creepy, they didn't say in the news report that they can't really test for bath salts.
00:44:08.000Most bath salts, they don't have a marker for them.
00:44:13.000There's a bunch of different kinds, too.
00:44:16.000Just because he didn't test for heroin or didn't test for crystal meth, whatever it is, doesn't mean he wasn't on bath salts.
00:44:25.000They said he wasn't on bath salts, they said he was on marijuana, but that's such shitty reporting.
00:44:30.000You have to tell the truth that it's hard to find out if people are on this shit.
00:47:28.000If you really stop and think about how many assholes out there figured out a way to crack into people's computers, like how many hundreds of thousands of people did it?
00:50:13.000They kill people personally in front of other people, and then go, this is how it goes, and then that's how they start their gig, and then you take over, and you punish, and you whatever.
00:50:23.000Yeah, we're always fascinated by the ones throughout history.
00:50:26.000And the most recent ones, like Hussein and his sons used to scare the shit out of me.
00:50:31.000When you would hear the stories of what they did, and you know that all those stories are not made up.
00:51:01.000I mean, that something can happen in the human mind where it allows them to become so vicious and detached from other people's suffering to the point where they actually enjoy it.
00:51:27.000And if you don't like it, Yeah, it's fucking crazy that we could go that way.
00:51:33.000The human brain needs a really good directions manual.
00:51:40.000A really good one that you have to get a degree in before you can live.
00:51:47.000Really, we should take all babies and quarantine them from the rest of society and raise them to their dead and then people get their kids.
00:52:08.000And then run in the jungle later with the young.
00:52:13.000I think there's probably a bunch of cultures, a bunch of ancient cultures that did a lot of mushrooms.
00:52:17.000If you really look at like cattle worship and stuff like that.
00:52:21.000I would think psychoactive substances were instrumental in almost every, not to be boring, but I just read about in the Columbus book, The Taino Indians used to powder a certain seed and put it in a pipe and blow it up each other's nose and have mystical trance experience,
00:52:41.000If I could remember, I would tell you, Joe.
00:52:43.000It's some seed that grows on the islands in the Caribbean.
00:52:47.000I could email you later when I go back and look at the book, but the Spanish took note of it and their ceremonies and how they danced and what they wore and how they conducted these giant things with the priests and They were taking drugs in front of them, and you blew it up your nose, and once you got a big hit in each nostril,
00:53:27.000It's one of those nasal blasting drugs.
00:53:31.000And the problem is with the deforestation in the Amazon, that these people that know how to make that stuff and know exactly what the lore behind it all is, they're going away.
00:53:56.000I think the whole continent took psychoactive drugs, if not weed, but definitely mushrooms.
00:54:04.000I did a tour of Chichen Itza with a professor, and it was really cool, because you could hire a local professor, and one of the things that he talked about that I'd never heard anybody, like a real scholar, talk about was how actively they took psychoactive drugs.
00:54:22.000And he was talking about how they had a chamber, and he said they would go in here and they would take various psychoactive drugs.
00:54:29.000And he thinks that some of them were mushrooms, some of them were...
00:54:33.000There was a root or something that contained lysergic acid.
00:54:37.000There was a few different ones that they had figured out could make you trip.
00:54:40.000But they would have regular psychedelic rituals.
00:54:43.000And to us that sounds ridiculous because it's like, listen, stop all that bullshit.
00:54:47.000What you need to do is you need to go to fucking school and you need to go to college, get a good job.
00:54:51.000What we don't understand is there was no school before this.
00:55:21.000Well, I think it does, and I think that's why it's such an integral and profound...
00:55:25.000That's why it's always part of the religious culture, too.
00:55:27.000It wasn't a recreational thing like, let's go get fucked up.
00:55:31.000The Indian societies were completely prescribed by religion.
00:55:34.000The drum went off in the morning, and everybody got up, and people went to religious school, and priests were the hierarchy, and the things you're talking about with those, the taking the mushrooms, I think that...
00:55:42.000The intuition they derived at the very beginning when they first took them and how they were able to refine it and cultivate it, like you say, and find out which ones did which thing absolutely leads to the creative process.
00:55:54.000And that's why they incorporated it into their...
00:59:47.000You know, I've had conversations with people where they, you know, they said, well, what has really changed the way you look at life the most?
01:00:26.000I find too that there is a huge resistance toward it.
01:00:29.000I talk about it sometimes and I've done them.
01:00:34.000And once you've done them and seen the alternate reality that exists and kind of come in touch with that, It does change your point of view because you realize that everything is so fluid in its levels of consciousness and not just the one horrible one that we're stuck in all the time now where we're prodding each other.
01:00:57.000It's a real uncomfortable idea for a lot of people, Joe, because it fucks up their well-ordered life or their belief system or whatever it is they're going for.
01:01:05.000People prefer faith-based stuff, which is weird to me because...
01:01:50.000Whether or not you want to say it wasn't really happening or whether you want to say that you really were experiencing something that was real that you could only see while you're under the influence of the mushroom, but it's real and around you all the time.
01:02:03.000Whichever one that is, either way you have the experience and the experience is incredibly powerful and beneficial to you as a human.
01:02:13.000I think it is because it opens up your mind.
01:02:15.000I think people are terrified to lose their ego.
01:04:39.000And he claims that was where he started.
01:04:41.000And I guess the carefree lifestyle that we were living that week seduced him so hard because of its beguiling poetry that he realized as an independent soul he could finally take control of his own destiny.
01:04:53.000I had a kid say to me once, I was on the road and like, Addison, Texas or something.
01:04:58.000And the guy I was working with was a nice fellow.
01:05:00.000And he would go out and he would buy peanut butter and cereal that you'd see on TV and stuff, which made me laugh because I'm from San Francisco.
01:05:06.000He would come back with a shopping list you'd see on television, like Wonder Bread.
01:05:18.000I was watching the Anita Hill hearings on TV. And there was a Raiders game that weekend, or a Niners game, and there was a fire in the East Bay, and you could see the fire over the campus.
01:06:58.000Yeah, the idea of the creative process is something that's always been so fascinating to me.
01:07:03.000And I love listening to how other people do it.
01:07:05.000You know, especially comics, like some of them are just fucking, they just sit down and put in the time, they just put in the hours, you know?
01:07:12.000And some of them just sit around and watch things all day and scratch their head and look at the internet and just poke around and prod, you know, and then some of them, they just, they just write in stand-up form, some people write in blog form.
01:07:26.000Don't you love when you Think a joke springs fully formed from your breast, and you haven't thought of it.
01:07:34.000It just comes out, and you do it, and it's perfect, and you go...
01:07:37.000Like, people always say, you know, whatever, the Beatles.
01:07:51.000Every once in a while, there'll be a joke that you think of, and it's just the right one.
01:07:57.000And it may even not be genius or anything.
01:08:00.000It's just that feeling that your subconscious pushed it out and you weren't fucking with it in any way, and therefore its perfection is different than something you worked on.
01:08:12.000Yeah, there's this weird thing of, again, it goes back to the ego, this weird thing of whoever the fuck you think of yourself as, you know, this self-defining sort of image that, you know, you put up as, like, sort of a wall of protection.
01:09:32.000I think just pushing yourself to think of something I repeat myself a million times, but to think of something new when you're riffing is how I... It's hard.
01:11:48.000So it's, you know, people will write me.
01:11:50.000And now because, you know, it's been a couple years now that It'll be like Proupadopolis, you know, dear Proupal of the sun, you know, Proupindicular, you know, like they try to think of these lengthy.
01:12:25.000That's a series of extremely short sentences.
01:12:29.000And then I went into maybe 25 minutes on...
01:12:34.000This novel that I would write if you were with me and how we would go to Mendocino and get high and the whole going shopping and having a barbecue and drinking later and then that's why I wouldn't wear a beard because I would be scruffy at the end of four days and I would be trying to write my novel and you'd be refuting my novel as I read it to you First,
01:16:18.000Because it really gets you to see the way a guy's brain works.
01:16:21.000Like, one of the things I love about guys coming on that I haven't talked to before, like you, like, we might have said, like, ten words to each other ever.
01:16:29.000Yeah, we've got a couple conversations.
01:16:46.000Have been on so many different comics, podcasts, and that's the other funnest part of podcasting is it's giving the audience something that they never had before when we were young and we would listen to comedy albums or even guys get interviewed occasionally on TV or the radio in exchange of ideas between comics.
01:17:53.000Because it's mics and it's audio and it has to be a certain length, it can't be seven hours, you know, unless you're making a, you know, the fassbender.
01:18:02.000The thing is, though, people listen to them at work a lot.
01:21:08.000Instead of, you know, he plays clubs and colleges, and then you come out, I said C, C.C. Ryder, you know, fucking scarf in a green elevator, you know.
01:22:26.000It was long enough to fucking charge people 20 bucks or whatever.
01:22:29.000And I met everyone before, and then afterward I talked to almost everybody that wanted to talk.
01:22:35.000And I stayed for hours like Babe Ruth and just fucking, you know, hey, And people give you pictures, and they talk to you, and you talk about what you're doing and shit.
01:22:43.000And I thought, I would have never cared this much before.
01:25:09.000Alright, then it's the culmination of all your thoughts.
01:25:14.000Well, just fortunate that something came along that would lend itself to someone who has so many different weird ideas in their head that you can't ever do in the form of a radio show.
01:29:55.000I remember thinking, it took me a while to realize it, but I was like, wow, people are way stupider in Florida than they are in San Francisco.
01:30:02.000It was like going from a completely different world.
01:30:05.000San Francisco is in a very unusual place.
01:30:08.000It poisons you, because I've never dropped the attitude from there, and I've never...
01:30:12.000All the information I believe in is from there.
01:30:16.000It's a huge rude awakening when you get into the world and realize that it ain't that way.
01:30:22.000It's amazing how places like San Francisco evolve.
01:30:24.000You have these weird pockets of really smart people and really cool people.
01:30:29.000It's like that whole area, the tech area with, you know, like where all those rich dudes live and like Palo Alto and Atherton and stuff like that.
01:30:41.000That area is filled with intelligent people.
01:32:28.000I feel like the gay marriage thing has always been like sort of a beach ball that gets tossed in the air to distract people, which is why it never gets resolved.
01:32:36.000No, and Bush didn't want to resolve it.
01:32:37.000Remember, 2004 was about the same gay marriage and then he didn't do shit.
01:32:40.000Like he didn't do shit about abortion or anything else.
01:32:42.000He actually didn't really do anything about any social issues other than make people wildly angry.
01:32:47.000Was he the first guy that would let you really clearly see that the presidency is not real and that all those decisions are being made by other people?
01:32:55.000Well, I wasn't old enough to be with it.
01:32:57.000I mean, I was a teenager or, you know, a young, beautiful teenage boy with legs like a slender Impala as I slid through life in my Adidas.
01:33:09.000I hear a ride like the wind in the background.
01:33:23.000I'll do Michael McDonald all day long.
01:33:27.000And, yeah, I went through Watergate when I was, you know, like an early teenager, and I remember it.
01:33:32.000And I remember the cynicism, even with a 12 or 13, 14-year-old, like, okay, the president can be brought down, the press has this power, the respect that that got in this country, the ending of the war...
01:33:45.000And then watching the late 70s where we thought we were going to have the Equal Rights Amendment.
01:33:50.000We thought black people were going to be equal.
01:33:52.000We thought Indians were going to get a piece of the pie.
01:33:54.000And then Reagan came along and all that kind of 60s stuff got washed in the you took mushrooms bath.
01:34:02.000And everybody, the media and the corporate entities and whatever.
01:34:06.000That was, I think, when I first, I was probably 19 or 20, when Reagan got elected.
01:34:09.000To me, he was the first one I thought.
01:34:12.000You're not up to the job mentally, but we're going to have you do it and you're just going to be this sort of beautiful mountain of reassuring voting for everybody.
01:34:25.000It was a creepy moment because it was the first...
01:34:31.000That's what he called his presidency because Carter had such a bad recession and couldn't get anything done and the Democratic Congress defied him and it kind of all went to shit by the end of the term, right?
01:34:42.000The hostages that they capped, and who knows what fucking happened, right?
01:34:45.000Whether Reagan got them released, blah, blah, blah.
01:34:47.000In any case, having said all that, he called, like, his first term morning in America, like, we've been in the darkness, you know?
01:34:55.000After, it was clear that 12 years of Republican, 14 years of Republican presidency in Vietnam was the root of what had turned everything horrible, the corrupt CIA, and And the drug dealing and the chicanery.
01:35:11.000Well, and then, like, so Bush for eight years of snatching, grabbing, making illegal war and fucking horrible fundamentalism and narrowness in the national dialogue.
01:35:25.000And then, you know, the last four years, people kind of, okay, and then the last election was like, it's clear again that the big paradigm is...
01:35:37.000Shifting in the right direction, you think?
01:35:38.000Well, something's going to have to happen.
01:35:40.000I think socially it's certainly in the right direction, or what Obama represents.
01:35:43.000Republicans are going to have to embrace gay marriage and medical marijuana.
01:37:51.000These are just repeated subjects to death to me.
01:37:54.000It's so funny when I can explain them to somebody who's never heard them before, because I'm such a dork, that's all I think about.
01:37:59.000Right, and all I think about is the stupid shit I think about.
01:38:02.000It is funny how you can get on these crazy paths of knowledge and store weird shit that comes out and people look at you like, what the fuck do you know that for, man?
01:39:49.000Yeah, this is, I don't know, it's a real exciting time, I think, the ability to...
01:39:56.000To have things like your podcast now where it just gets released out into the world and then just picks up new viewers and you do something like this and I'm sure this is going to have a bunch of people download it now from iTunes and get hooked on it.
01:40:46.000I wouldn't have thought of that, you know?
01:40:48.000Yeah, videos of rants have gone on with these like really become these really inspirational videos where someone spliced in music and Eisenhower speeches and fucking crazy shit, man.
01:40:57.000And it's all just people that connect to something on the internet.
01:41:01.000So we live in strange times, Greg Proops.
01:42:44.000Because I don't even remember writing, because out of five hours of writing, how much do you actually remember?
01:42:48.000But the act of actually scribing it into a paper, a piece of paper, there's something about that that's like, it just really like, it just stores in your memory.
01:42:59.000It's like, humans have been doing it that way for so long.
01:43:44.000It was one from like Paris, one from Minnesota, one from a place I didn't remember being.
01:43:49.000It was like the double tree in and somewhere, you know, and then there was another one.
01:43:52.000And then it just said like Clinton, you know, corn, whatever the fuck was on the list, Olsen twins.
01:44:00.000And I kind of went through the list as the article and just went like, yeah, I was doing Clinton jokes in Paris, you know.
01:44:05.000Well, I think I said, it's always 92 when I rock the mic, rock the mic, or whatever.
01:44:10.000You know, like, there's a weird insight into kind of, like, what's going on exactly then with all your set lists, because the different notes you make on them and stuff.
01:44:19.000I don't know that there's that much to be garnered from...
01:44:23.000I mean, I could probably remember some of the bits and some I couldn't remember.
01:44:26.000I think it's just something that might be cool, like if I was a fan and I... You'd like them?
01:45:36.000And then if you're the drummer, think of something.
01:45:39.000You know, like there's all this cool, like really broken down, like the thoughts you have before you go on stage, like about the band and how you wanted the band to play and look.
01:45:54.000So there's lists of note and there's letters of note.
01:45:57.000And then the last letter of note, someone sent it to me, was Jackie Robinson went to a luncheon or a dinner that Ike was speaking at, right?
01:46:46.000Dear Mr. President, having recently attended the lunch you're at, I have to say that on behalf of myself and my race, the time for patience is long past.
01:46:54.000You'll find that over the past several hundred years, we've endured nothing but countless indignity.
01:47:39.000And Eisenhower like, well, you know, one day schools will be integrated and you won't have to drink in another faucet and, you know, you don't want to hear that.
01:48:11.000The physical act of writing is going away.
01:48:12.000If I didn't have to write my set list down or occasionally fill out a form like when I go to Canada or something like that, I don't write anything anymore.