This week on the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast, the boys talk about their favorite parts of the music industry, what it's like to be in a garage band, and what they're up to this week. Plus, they talk about the new show they're doing Thursday night at The Ice House, and they discuss who they think is going to be at the show and who isn't. They also talk about who they would like to see at the Ice House on Thursday night, and who they don't want to see it at The Improv on Thursday, and why they think it's a good idea to get tickets to the show. And, of course, there's a surprise guest appearance from their good friend, David Cho! Joe also talks about how he's going to make it to the Improv Thursday night and what he's looking forward to doing there and why he's not going to do it at all other places. Joe and the boys also discuss how they're going to get to see the new music they're listening to, and how they plan on doing it and why it's not a bad idea. And they also discuss what they would do if they were in the garage band and how much money they'd like to get in a band and what it would take to get into a band to play there. Also, they discuss the best song they've ever heard and how it's actually pretty good. . The Joe Rogans of the world, it's called "Suckmycockfatty" and it's one of their favorite garage band riffs. and they're not even better than the original Garage Band riffs from the original garage band master, Brian's Garage Band riff from the Garage Band. This is not your average garage band song, but it's the best garage band I've heard in a way you can play it in the 80s and they play it better than you'll ever heard it on the radio... And it's better than it's own version of that song. ...and it's also better than any other garage band riff I've ever played in the past 30 years. Enjoy! -Joe Rogan -JOE ROGAN PODCAST - THE JOE EXPERIODCAST! JOE R. R. EPISODES is a production of Gimlet Media's newest music podcast, featuring the band, "SUCK MY COURSES"
00:01:38.000But all that could have been done through Hover.
00:01:40.000Hover offers a lot of cool software to use, and they offer a lot of cool things that are free, like Whois privacy protection, subdomains, URL forwarding,
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00:04:36.000Well, for people who do know Yoshi, they know that he used to work in the porn business, and his currency was porn.
00:04:43.000Like, if he needed to get tickets to something, like, Yoshi knows a lot of athletes and rock stars and whatever, and he's like, hey, you guys want some porn?
00:04:51.000And he's always there with a box of porn.
00:04:55.000And if you've gotten a box of porn from Yoshi, you know that sometimes he hides some shemale porn in there.
00:05:35.000They did a study a while back where they took men who were homophobic and they showed them images of gay guys having sex and they showed arousal.
00:08:42.000A grown-up adult male that watches porn all day, but think about a regular kid who just discovered the internet and his first boner.
00:08:50.000He can already watch anal and everything.
00:08:52.000So I think you do anal, you get blowjobs, you have sex with your girlfriend, and you're like 16 and you've already seen and done everything.
00:09:11.000Why do you think it's such a huge thing?
00:09:14.000I have a friend in Boston, professor of evolution and biology, but he did like a research, like full, very popular body parts and internet search.
00:09:25.000This is according to 100 million research.
00:09:27.000Obvious one, tits, ass, feet, and penis, according to the 100 million research by men.
00:09:35.000And according to my friend, it's because we're interested in all the different sexual cues.
00:09:49.000Well, I think part of the idea is also that a lot of people have these sexual thoughts about men because they were imprinted with some sort of sexual experience by a man when they were young.
00:10:01.000Whether it was molestation or something like that, whatever it is.
00:10:04.000They had some weirdness that happened with another boy.
00:10:07.000And because of that, even though they don't have homosexual thoughts, they're not homosexual, they can still get aroused by the idea of men or by the idea of doing something that you're not supposed to do, like looking at a guy's cock.
00:13:03.000What we're looking at for the folks listening on iTunes, it's a famous photo of two Latino gentlemen with gang-like tattoos and they're in the tub together naked.
00:14:17.000If you were into gay dudes, and if you were into dudes, especially if you were into athletic dudes, I would totally see how you could see two men grappling, especially bare chest to bare chest, as being homoerotic.
00:14:32.000It's really based upon your sexual preference.
00:14:36.000If you're into that, yeah, you would think that's homoerotic.
00:15:04.000Yeah, I mean, you know sometimes when...
00:15:06.000You know this move at the strip club when you go and the girl gives you a simulated blowjob like she's blowing you but she uses the top of her head?
00:17:46.000He wasn't, you know, if you're just wearing the nylon pants and you got the lube on underneath, and you really probably can't tell at first, but he, like, had a puddle in his pants.
00:18:13.000He had this business, and so he didn't have any time for dating.
00:18:17.000So what he would do is he would go and work all fucking day on his own business.
00:18:21.000Then he would eat dinner, he would order takeout, Then he would go to the strip club in his shooting pants, and he would get one off, and then he'd go back home.
00:19:35.000I've been married for quite a few years now.
00:19:37.000But for me, the difference that happens when you have kids is so hard to wrap your head around for anybody that's not married and doesn't have kids.
00:19:50.000Once you have a little you, a little Dave running around, the love that you have for them is...
00:19:55.000So, it's really, you could never imagine that it would even be possible.
00:20:27.000Shooting pants, the whole deal is finding a compatible person.
00:20:31.000If you don't find a compatible person, you find someone who wants to fight all the time, find someone who wants to test you, find someone who's not at peace themselves, you're gonna have fucking problems.
00:20:41.000Because you can always find something wrong with people.
00:20:43.000Yeah, but as a man who probably gets hit on by chicks all the time, those fucking ring girls are super smoking hot.
00:22:18.000But if someone who's in a high position of power, like say a political person, and they found that they had tranny porn at their house, even though it's totally legal, and even though you're saying it's the biggest market, so it represents a lot of human beings that are into that stuff,
00:22:58.000But it's complete, like, that's a weird sort of homophobia that's still accepted.
00:23:03.000It's a weird sort of prejudice that's still accepted.
00:23:07.000Your sexual preference, even if you're a nice person, even if you're nice and you're intelligent, we'll judge you based on whether or not you jerk off to dudes with dicks, or dudes who look like chicks with dicks.
00:23:18.000I remember even in the late 80s, the store owner didn't want to have interracial tapes, thinking most of the customers in Seattle would hate it.
00:23:26.000But the reaction once we got the interracial stuff is opposite.
00:23:30.000It's always the white doctors, white lawyers, white CPA. Yeah.
00:23:56.000Folks, if you're normal and you're listening to this and you're not all fucked up in the head like us where we can just say cuckold and no one has to worry whether or not anybody understands what it means...
00:24:06.000Apparently there's a group of dudes who like watching other guys fuck their women.
00:26:05.000People had to get tired of white people fucking white women, where they're like, listen, we got a million videos of white girls getting fucked by white guys with three-quarter hard dicks, okay?
00:33:05.000We had this guy on, and I have to tell people who listen to this podcast, we have found a molecular biologist to debate Dr. Peter Duesberg.
00:33:14.000We had this guy on the podcast, and a lot of people got really angry at me.
00:33:17.000He's a professor of biology at the University of California, Berkeley, and he's got this crazy theory about HIV and AIDS. Okay.
00:33:23.000And he doesn't believe that HIV causes AIDS. He believes that the drugs that people give people Uh-huh.
00:33:50.000And it's a controversial situation because obviously he's smarter than me.
00:33:56.000He's got tenure and he does peer-reviewed stuff on cancer that's very well respected to this day.
00:34:02.000But he's got this wacky opinion on HIV. And, you know, he insists that no one wants to debate him.
00:34:10.000So we got this guy who's finally willing to debate him and I'll announce all of it when everything gets signed away and we figure out what day they're going to both fly in.
00:34:18.000But we're going to bring him in here and we're going to have them debate as long as it takes on the podcast.
00:34:23.000And either, you know, either Dewsburg is fucking crazy or Dewsburg is a genius and we have a real problem with the way people perceive this one particular disease.
00:34:35.000I'm just hoping that I can figure out how to navigate through the waters because I'm basically going to be like a referee in a contest that I don't understand.
00:34:42.000Do you know anyone with AIDS besides Brian and Yoshi?
00:34:45.000Well, they have the most AIDS. But yeah, I know a guy who has HIV. I know at least one guy.
00:34:51.000The only time in my life that I've ever seen anyone with AIDS and it was like a lot of AIDS was when I was in Africa.
00:34:58.000That was part of Dewsburg's problem with it.
00:35:02.000He said that what you're seeing in Africa is not people that have HIV, it's people that have no nutrition.
00:35:07.000He's like, you're seeing compromised immune systems because they're starving and they're in horrible climates where there's a lot of waste around.
00:35:15.000You're seeing a lot of different things.
00:35:18.000He's like, they're not testing these people for HIV. He goes, and the amount of people that they have tested that do have HIV in Africa, he said the number hasn't increased, but the population has tripled.
00:35:29.000The population of Africa, they were saying, is going to be decimated by AIDS. And he was like, well, if that's the truth, why did the population increase by threefold?
00:35:38.000Population was like, he said it was like, this is all Duesberg, I'm paraphrasing, but he said, I believe it was like 500 million, and now it's over a billion.
00:35:46.000So he was like, the population tripled.
00:35:51.000Well, the idea is that if AIDS was a communicable disease, like people are describing it, it would have swept through Africa and decimated the population.
00:36:00.000And he's saying because it didn't, not even by any stretch of the imagination, he said it backs up his idea that it's something that's brought upon in Africa by poor nutrition, in America by drug use.
00:37:40.000And they get together and, you know, that's a part of what they're doing that's fun.
00:37:46.000And that shit will decimate your immune system.
00:37:50.000And whether or not Dewsburg's correct about all of his assumptions about AIDS, Let's set that aside for a minute and just look at the fact that there's so many of these dudes taking those drugs and that those drugs will fuck you up.
00:38:04.000Whether or not HIV causes AIDS, the majority of scientists say it does, so I have to go with them.
00:38:10.000I mean, the majority support The idea that it's this ever-altering and changing disease that's very hard to figure out, and then it decimates the immune system.
00:38:20.000I don't imagine that you could keep something like that a secret if it wasn't true.
00:38:26.000So having him on was a tricky thing because I can't debate him.
00:40:32.000Well, see, that's what, like, we didn't write in our description, like, it's D-V-D-A-A-S-A, but we didn't write it's double vaginal, double anal, whatever.
00:40:41.000And so, you know, my manager's like, dude, you have a porn star on there and you have this fucking guy.
00:40:47.000Like, do you want ever to have non-porn star guests, like, real guests on?
00:41:44.000It's not like if you said something fucked up and then like, remember when Hugh Grant got blown by that hooker and got arrested and went on The Tonight Show and Jay Leno goes, what the hell were you thinking?
00:41:54.000Jay Leno does his famous line that brought The Tonight Show back.
00:41:57.000And you know, when they have those shows, they talk about the history of the war between The Tonight Show and The David Letterman Show.
00:42:03.000That was the show that turned the tide.
00:42:05.000Jay Leno looked at Hugh Grant and said, what the hell were you thinking?
00:42:09.000Well, when he did that, that was like this tiny little conversation that only took place over a couple of minutes.
00:42:14.000Wouldn't you love to sit Hugh Grant down and give him a glass of wine and give him some weed and talk to him for hours and go, how many hookers did you get?
00:44:23.000The idea that you're going to write some shit down and that someone is going to be legally entangled with you and then you're going to have to sit in front of a bunch of other people.
00:44:29.000And when you want to break up with her, they have to decide how your money gets distributed.
00:44:34.000And in your situation, it's a terrible idea because you've got a lot of money.
00:44:39.000Before I had a lot of money, I never was into the idea of it.
00:46:01.000They'll kill you when they find out that you have an explanation date on them.
00:46:05.000Imagine if you bought super hot robot hookers, and they have this implanted memory of their life with you, this perfect life with you, and how deeply, deeply, deeply in love with you they are.
00:46:15.000And then they realize that on year five, they die, because that's when you get tired of chicks, and you want to bring in another one, and...
00:46:24.000Program a new life into her brain as well.
00:49:30.000I don't like to talk too much about it on the podcast, but the odds of finding somebody that you get along with as good as I get along with her, they're pretty slim.
00:49:40.000I haven't found that many people in my whole life that I get along with like that.
00:49:44.000It's a compatibility thing, because I'm not the right dude for a lot of chicks, and you're not the right dude for a lot of chicks.
00:49:52.000You've got to find the one who's like, that's what I've been looking for.
00:50:20.000But once you go through the experience and you become an adult, you kind of have a different perspective on just the idea of a finite lifetime and the idea of the concept of being able to raise a human from the very beginning and like educate them and expose them to different things along the way and communicate with them.
00:50:40.000How old were you when you had your first kid?
00:50:42.000The first biological kid, I was 40. Totally different.
00:50:47.000So guys like you and Bourdain give me hope, because I think Bourdain had his first kid.
00:50:51.000He was 50, I think, when he had his first kid.
00:50:55.000It's easier to understand what's going on.
00:50:59.000If I was 21, if I got my girlfriend pregnant, and I married her back then, I might get...
00:51:05.000So overwhelmed by the responsibility of it all.
00:51:09.000The other thing is that I'm in a comfortable place in my life where I don't have to worry about shit.
00:52:33.000So the difference is if you're doing something you're only doing for the money, you're always going to have this feeling like, all right, just plow through this and do it for the money.
00:52:43.000But when you're doing something that you love, you eliminate that bad feeling.
00:52:47.000Well, that's the thing is when I hear you doing the announcing for UFC, I'm like, This guy sounds like he's super, super pumped right now.
00:52:55.000Like, you know, it sounds like you're into it.
00:52:57.000So, and like, you're like, oh, when you're like referring back to fights from like 10 years earlier, I'm like, is there something in front of you showing those things?
00:53:29.000Well, George won the fight, but I thought BJ did more damage, and all George did was take him down a couple of times in the later rounds, but BJ thumbed George in the eye.
00:53:54.000People have to realize that because of the fact that thumbs aren't exposed, even with a legitimate punch, which BJ's was, a completely legitimate punch, oftentimes a thumb can go right into the eyeball.
00:54:07.000And you could really fuck up a guy's vision from that.
00:54:10.000And it was just because BJ had cleaner striking back then.
00:54:15.000Because I believe he won, he did more damage, and I think ultimately the Japanese had a better way of judging fights than the standard 10-point must system that we use, which is really like a boxing system.
00:54:49.000And I was there for Vice, and I just came back to LA. And I have a bit of a gambling problem.
00:54:57.000And the way my gambling career, I guess, is set up is...
00:55:04.000Basically, yeah, 2006 or around that time, like six, seven years ago, when I was going there, I was going there every week and winning about $1,000.
00:57:51.000And because she was dead in the hallway, right in front of BJ's...
00:57:57.000Even though they knew he didn't do it, they took him in for questioning that day.
00:58:02.000So I'm like freaking out and he's like, dude, BJ's been at the police station all day answering questions and he has this fight tomorrow night.
00:58:43.000And for a guy who's been to Vegas every week, I go there every week for the last 20 years, I had never been to Vegas where it felt like this before.
00:58:53.000More Hawaiians that had never left Hawaii.
00:58:56.000They weren't even the main fight, right?
00:58:59.000But George St. Pierre is the hero of Canada.
00:59:02.000So there was all these fucking Canadians in Vegas, and then there was all these Hawaiians in Vegas.
01:00:56.000And then I don't think I slept that night.
01:01:00.000It was one of those nights where I stay at the strip club till like the sun comes up.
01:01:04.000And then the next day, I started putting the money down on BJ to win, but it was like seven grand at like the, you know, the Venetian and then like eight grand over here and I had to split it up a little bit.
01:01:30.000And like you said, like it was just like you said, like Everyone the place is going nuts like it's going fucking insane like everyone's like fuck like Canada fuck Hawaii and it's like and then the fight happens I'm like oh fuck St. Pierre looks bloody first round I'm like this fights done like BJ won and then St. Pierre is a smart fighter so he like deflected a lot or whatever and then when decision time came around They gave it to St. Pierre by one point decision and the place
01:02:00.000goes and they started like screaming and Like, I couldn't believe it.
01:02:04.000Like, I'm like, oh my god, because I had my own money on the fight too.
01:02:07.000He walks off stage, his brother's like, get him drunk right away.
01:02:11.000And then, I don't know if you go out at all after the fights or whatever, but I've never seen Vegas this violent before in my life.
01:02:18.000Like, there was like street brawls inside casinos, there was Canadians beating up Hawaiians, Hawaiians beating up, like, it was crazy.
01:02:25.000I knew a Hawaiian guy that put his house on, you know, up for the whole thing.
01:04:00.000But I'm talking with her and, you know, like right after a long break, you've been together with someone for a long time and you break up, there's like that maybe you're still going to get together.
01:04:08.000So I'm like, fuck, I'm going to go gamble right now.
01:04:11.000And then in this situation, who the fuck was that guy?
01:04:19.000So Chris Tucker and like, you know, a posse of like 40 people like walk in.
01:04:24.000Then they start hitting on her right away.
01:04:26.000Right when I got up so I was like fuck I gotta go win this money but like Chris Tucker looks like he's gonna I was like sort of stuck I was like fuck this motherfucker is hitting on my ex-girlfriend and I was like alright I'm just gonna run and do it so I walked into the Venetian high limit room for the first time and then eight grand in like thousand dollar chips is like You know,
01:05:00.000I was like, hey, Pat, I'm up to 36. You want me to win the last?
01:05:03.000He's like, get your fucking ass back to Costa Mesa right now.
01:05:06.000I was like, all right, all right, all right.
01:05:07.000I was like, I really think I can win the whole 40. He's like, stop, stop right now.
01:05:11.000So I stopped and then I sort of blame BJ for my gambling problem because after that moment I could never go to Vegas again and just win a thousand.
01:06:27.000Like, people are like, the amount of fucking you do, the fact that you haven't got a girl pregnant right now, I'm like, because I'm extremely disciplined, you know?
01:06:49.000And then you're in an AA thing going, I don't know, I just went into the bar to have one drink, and the next thing you know, and that's everyone's Vegas story, right?
01:07:00.000They're like, I was up, and that's why Vegas is there, because no one ever stops.
01:07:06.000So you're the type of person that actually can stop.
01:07:08.000I know that I can't stop, so I hire someone to come with me to physically make me stop.
01:07:14.000Yeah, and I've been doing that since I was 15. You've hired someone to come gamble with you since you were 15. From 15 to 23, I consistently lost every paycheck.
01:07:27.000And I would be going back from Vegas with that.
01:08:05.000So I was like, if I can pinpoint, if I can know about myself and be honest with myself that I definitely cannot stop, why don't I just hire someone to stop me?
01:08:16.000I tell him, look, when I get to this number, stop me.
01:08:18.000And if I keep going, grab me by my throat, pick me up.
01:08:21.000And so I developed this whole system of like, you know, pulling out.
01:10:44.000And it's like, if you go to Vegas right now, because of card counting, because of all these math nerds and shit, Blackjack, the most maximum bet you could ever bet on Blackjack is $25,000.
01:13:07.000You're going to just stick the tip in and get a little bit and then it's like Vegas is Goliath and you're this tiny little speck and you're just taking little nicks out of it.
01:13:18.000You're not trying to take the house down.
01:18:08.000The issue is you have to understand where you're at, you have to understand your environment, and you have to have the resources to make your environment compatible to you.
01:20:59.000But my point was, but let me just finish, go full circle with this, is that in Colorado, the natural beauty is so astounding that everywhere you look, you're like, ah.
01:21:10.000There was this place that we used to drive.
01:21:12.000We would go up to this area called Netherland, and you'd drive through the mountains to get there.
01:21:17.000And as you're driving through the mountains, you can't even believe you're allowed to be here.
01:21:22.000You're just seeing these snow-covered peaks and these giant drop-offs and fucking trees everywhere, and it's just majestic, and the clouds float overhead, and you realize this is God's country.
01:21:37.000The impact of your environment is substantial.
01:21:41.000The idea that we should only measure things that you can fucking put on a scale, what you're not counting in is the visual benefit you get from seeing art.
01:23:37.000See, I grew up in Boston, my formative years, from 13 to 24. Right.
01:23:42.000And I had a newspaper route when I was a kid, when I had a car.
01:23:46.000When I was fighting in Taekwondo tournaments, all I did was deliver newspapers in the morning and then teach in the afternoon and then compete.
01:24:51.000I have all these things in my head, but to a person who's never grown up in cold weather, that's a terrifying variable that you've just added to the equation.
01:24:59.000The fact that you could freeze to death.
01:25:01.000The black guys get really angry when you try to hit them?
01:25:41.000That's why I was saying I have this like fantasy of like fucking LA and then these visions of like this post-apocalyptic like just riots and fires and I'm like, just get out.
01:26:10.000That big earth, the Northridge earthquake.
01:26:13.000I think your instinct is to go colder, mountainous, and I think mine would be to go South America.
01:26:20.000Growing up in Boston, there's something that I appreciate about cold weather because it gives you a certain respect for the possibilities that Mother Nature can throw at you on a regular basis.
01:26:30.000And it sounds ridiculous to want to put yourself through that.
01:26:34.000And when I was young, I mostly was a person who sought comfort.
01:26:39.000So I wanted to get out of the snow and get out of all that as much as possible and find a nice place so I could take a nap.
01:26:44.000But as I've got older, I've realized that that's one of the things that sort of steals you as a human being, is overcoming adversity and dealing with difficult situations.
01:26:55.000And I think it's good to know that winter's coming.
01:27:11.000It's so interesting to me that people can develop on the same planet in different areas geographically and have completely different sets of values and ideals.
01:27:24.000Comparing their takes on family and politics.
01:29:09.000And I lived on a street with a lot of old people.
01:29:13.000So me and my brother went and we went around the block helping all these old people turn off their gas line so that they're There was an old couple trying to find their gas line with a lighter on.
01:29:25.000So we went around the whole block with a flashlight and we made sure everyone had their gas line off so that the neighborhood wouldn't explode.
01:29:33.000And then after that, then we went looting.
01:29:43.000You did the right thing for humanity, and you took advantage of a disenfranchised situation you found yourself in because of the inequities of the situation, the different system that's what we operate under right now.
01:30:12.000I was listening to a lecture on this very subject today on the way over here, just coincidentally, completely coincidentally, and the guy was saying that one of the issues that we have with modern culture and the attitude of modern society when you watch the Kardashian show or you watch nonsensical bullshit on TV,
01:30:31.000immerse yourself in the sort of culture of gossip...
01:30:36.000The reason for that is because we are in a situation where we have a massive abundance of resources.
01:30:42.000Where everyone can get gas on every corner and you can go to a store.
01:30:47.000And even if you're poor, you can afford fatty foods.
01:30:49.000So that lack of need for character and lack of need for...
01:30:57.000Any sort of real drastic effort to overcome your environment, like everybody else all over the world, allows us to get really fucking cunty and really stupid and soft and lazy because we only have to do as much work as we need to survive.
01:31:13.000But when survival is easy, then your brain is left to fucking dwell on stupid shit like the Kardashians or like, you know, who wore this dress better or why does this guy have a car like that and I got this piece of shit, you know?
01:31:27.000So, going back to the Congo, when I was in the Congo, I realized a lot of places, they don't have toilet paper, like, even in, like, just public restrooms and stuff.
01:31:37.000And for those who don't know, I need to shit a lot, you know?
01:32:30.000And then the next thing you realize, you're like, I just spent, like, 10 minutes, you know, thinking about something that most people never have to, like, think about, you know?
01:33:57.000There's many days where you're not going to find something to eat, and you're going to get desperate, and then you're going to get some ingenuity together to find something to fucking eat.
01:34:06.000And that's how people survive to get this far along the evolutionary food chain in the first place.
01:34:46.000They're just hunting, farming, and catching fish, and then they huddle in for the winter.
01:34:52.000Well, they developed this thing called a fish wheel, and they make it out of logs, and it's this huge net-like thing that just spins with the current, and it keeps rolling.
01:35:02.000And as it rolls, it just scoops fish out of the water and drops them into a bucket.
01:35:07.000It's really wild, and it's ingenious, because they invented this up there independently in Alaska.
01:35:30.000We're going to do this on the day where you guys have the most salmon.
01:35:33.000Whatever that part of the year is, because Ari and I are going to do one show and then go salmon.
01:35:37.000Definitely figure out when that fishing season is, or when it's close to the end.
01:35:42.000Because that trip, the Vice Show, the thumbs up, when I hitchhiked from Tijuana to Alaska, when we got to Alaska, do you think that they would have hot strippers in Alaska?
01:35:52.000I would assume that if I was a stripper, and I wanted to make some real money, and if I was ambitious, I would fly to where there's no chicks.
01:36:46.000They're like, why are we wasting our time in Bismarck, South Dakota, where we can't make a net goal, when you can fly to Alaska, and these motherfuckers have money, and they're horny as shit.
01:40:02.000And the selling point for me was the guy that was like my therapist at the time was like, he's like, I could tell you have a very short attention span.
01:40:12.000You get bored with things very easily.
01:40:15.000You know, we could make some progress with you just through like normal therapy and these kinds of things over the course of years.
01:40:21.000Or you can have 10 years of psychotherapy in one night where you experience like all these things.
01:42:01.000It's kind of more anecdotal than anything.
01:42:04.000But in Eastern mysticism, all of the images of the third eye, that is the pineal gland.
01:42:10.000If you see all these different deities with the glowing third eye, that's the pineal gland.
01:42:19.000It's the chemical, I think they say, It's produced when you dream and then when you're born and when you die.
01:42:25.000Well, during heavy REM sleep, they believe your brain produces more of it and they also believe that it might be responsible for alien abductions.
01:42:33.000There's a lot of theories about that because DMT is produced during REM sleep, and most of the alien abduction experiences occur at night.
01:42:42.000And the idea is, well, you're saying these people are dreaming, but they know it really happened.
01:42:47.000No, I'm saying it doesn't mean either or.
01:42:52.000Just because they're having these crazy, fucked up experiences doesn't mean that crazy, fucked up experiences isn't a reality.
01:43:23.000There's unique ones and zeros that are entering into your mind that are allowing you to form a new version of the world.
01:43:30.000Well, when the drug experience under DMT, which is, again, the quicker acting form of ayahuasca, the active contents in ayahuasca, Whatever that is, is a very potent experience.
01:43:45.000Whether it's real or not, it's silly to judge.
01:43:48.000The idea that you can't hit it with a hammer so it's not real.
01:43:51.000You can't put it on a scale so it's not real.
01:44:21.000Let's say you were having a hallucination, and that hallucination lasted one hour, and in that one hour, this chemical perturbed your normal sense of visual stimulation and input to the mind, and it gave you a distorted perception of reality.
01:44:38.000And then let's say, so let's say that's option A, and then let's say option B is you took magic fairy dust that brought you to an enchanted land that couldn't have possibly been accessed without it, and in that world you communicated with impossibly intelligent entities that broke down the universe for you in a way that you could understand in your brief time there.
01:45:04.000And then let's look at those two things and say, Regardless of which one is true, they both achieve the exact same result.
01:45:15.000Whether it's perturbing your sense of visual input to the mind, or whether it's you really go to a magic fairyland and communicate with God, the same thing happens.
01:45:27.000You can make noises with your mouth and use the cultural context of written language and historical reference To sort of put it in a position where you can explain it to a group of people that are not going to make fun of you.
01:45:38.000But the reality of it is, all culture aside, all language aside, all preconceived notions aside, you're having the same fucking experience.
01:46:06.000But I understood after I did it that my whole idea of the world that I had used as a reference, that I had used as like, this is this, and this is that, and this is the banking system, and this is the government,
01:46:45.000It was completely life-changing for me.
01:46:48.000But here's the danger in it, I think, is...
01:46:51.000When I start going off on it, because I didn't get a tattoo of it, but I'm super passionate about it now, because it did completely alter my vision of how I see things, is I start to sound like a maniac when I start talking about it too much.
01:47:12.000Yeah, but then I'm aware of the perception of like, oh, Dave sounds fucking like a maniac and crazy, and he's talking about this weird drug, and then...
01:47:21.000The thing about it is I did it in Colombia with like 20 other people.
01:47:44.000When if the right people did it, basically I think everyone should do it, but if the right people that, That didn't hear it and, oh man, that sounds like fucking crazy hippie bullshit, you know?
01:48:20.000It's Schedule 1. It is one of the most illegal drugs in the world, along with marijuana.
01:48:25.000Which, by the way, the idea of Schedule 1 is that it has no medical use, which is hilarious because there is medical marijuana approved in California.
01:48:34.000It's been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that it helps in a lot of different areas.
01:49:03.000They make a synthetic THC pill which doesn't have nearly the effects of edible cannabis.
01:49:10.000That's something that we were talking about before the show where it's like brownies fuck you up.
01:49:15.000They don't just fuck you up because weed fucks you up.
01:49:18.000They fuck you up because when you eat it, it produces a completely different chemical in your body.
01:49:25.000When THC is consumed in an edible form, it produces something called 11-hydroxymetabolite, which is like five times more psychoactive than THC. I believe it.
01:49:37.000Yeah, you know why that weird feeling that you get when you eat a brownie?
01:49:41.000My friend Brett had a company What he was trying to do when the medical marijuana movement first started, he had this company that was making THC pills.
01:49:54.000And I don't know what he did to fucking get this stuff into a pill form, but he had, this is my strong one and this is my medium one.
01:50:01.000If you're gonna take the medium one, only take one.
01:50:04.000I'm like, well, why do you have a strong one?
01:50:17.000And maybe an hour and a half later, I was the most uncomfortable I have ever been in my entire life.
01:50:24.000Where I was so terrified of everything.
01:50:27.000I was looking at people, and they became two-dimensional, and I was seeing their souls peeking behind while they were talking to me.
01:50:36.000And it became incredibly psychedelic, way more psychedelic than weed.
01:50:40.000And I didn't understand about the 11-hydroxy-metabolite thing then, but I talked to my friend Todd McCormick, who's this medical marijuana activist and professional natural deodorant user.
01:51:01.000He was one of the first guys to do time in California because they wouldn't let him use the term medical marijuana.
01:51:08.000Even though he was operating under state law, when they bring you to court, because it's a federal trial, they don't even allow you to use the term medical marijuana.
01:53:21.000When I first came to LA, I had a girlfriend in New York.
01:53:25.000And we were kind of like on the outs when I first moved to LA. And I was figuring out whether or not I should move her in with me or bring her out here or whatever.
01:53:34.000And I was out here working on a TV show for like two weeks by myself, just living in the Oakwoods apartment complex.
01:54:46.000And I'll never forget that because I'm like, okay, well I have to realize that this is a real, this is something, there's one more thing that we can't measure in conventional terms but that it actually exists and is tangible in its effect.
01:54:59.000Well, I mean, I come from a family of huge huggers.
01:57:16.000That's the only reason why I brought this up, because I know you're pretty adamant about expressing yourself all the time.
01:57:23.000I would say before I finish, start the story, that Dave was arrested in Japan, September of 2003. In the same week, I was in jail in LA County, so I guess we were meant to meet each other.
01:57:35.000Day apart, 10 years ago, this coming September, we're in jail.
01:58:07.000And I called them and find out my dad supposedly killed himself.
01:58:11.000So within a couple of days, I flew back to Japan and find out what happened.
01:58:15.000Because I saw him six months before, early 2003. I found out that my stepmother was cheating on my dad before marriage, during marriage, and they're in process of getting divorced, but my dad killed himself.
01:58:27.000Later on, we don't know for sure if he committed suicide or my stepmother had something to do with his death.
02:04:53.000I think if I did it, like my cousin called me like a week later and he was laughing at the phone like, yeah, if you did it for another minute, you probably killed her or whatever.
02:05:01.000She ended up going to hospital for like two and a half, three months.
02:05:05.000But that snapped him out of it, the lady screaming.
02:07:24.000If you're outraged listening to this, you're like, I can't believe you joking.
02:07:26.000I got that little mallet where Buddhists scoop the water to clean the cemetery.
02:07:32.000I grabbed that stuff, just beat him over the head a couple of times, ran down the parking lot, and I saw my stepmother's older sister and her husband, and I started sucker-punching too.
02:08:04.000So my aunt, Yoshie, she's the only one, when he started fighting me back, she's the one, she had a cancer, brain cancer actually, but she's the one to interrupt the fight, start punching him and just told me to leave.
02:08:17.000And I told my cousin to drive me out of there and he wasn't sure because he want to...
02:10:41.000I could talk about this for like hours and hours, but basically I... In much of the same way where I helped, you know, the old people during the earthquake turn their gas off and then went looting.
02:10:55.000You know, I had a troubled past where, you know...
02:11:00.000This is before I got, like, seriously into gambling.
02:11:03.000Like, I spent most of my childhood just, like, fighting and getting into all kinds of trouble and doing, like, small-time criminal kind of activities and stuff.
02:11:10.000And so when I went to Japan, where it was, like, this society based on, like, honor and, like, you know, the light turns red and then everyone stops walking.
02:11:18.000And I was like, whoa, this is fucking crazy.
02:12:05.000It is sad, because that's one thing when we were in Japan, some guy was telling me about the same kind of thing, like, You could tell these girls anything.
02:12:11.000They'll believe you because no one lies to them.
02:12:13.000So you could tell them you're a super famous rock star.
02:14:52.000Except for one now, which was that movie.
02:14:54.000So after I got to know Yoshi and knowing what a degenerate he is, he's like, hey Dave, they're filming the first Asian American porn where the whole cast is Asian.
02:15:04.000And I was like, whoa, that's pretty groundbreaking.
02:15:30.000So Yoshi told me about it, and then we went, yeah, I went to the set of the first, and it was based on a weird Japanese poet or someone, some chick that like cuts off her lover's penis or something.
02:16:07.000But, you know, she was one of the first...
02:16:10.000Like, women that I met that I was, like, genuinely interested in after my seven-year-long relationship.
02:16:16.000So I met her on that set, and then I'm like, this chick is fucking rad.
02:16:22.000Like, she'll just, like, talk about anything and how she has to, like, wash her butthole out, and it's just, like, not in a gross way, and it's very refreshing to meet someone that's, like, so open and honest about everything.
02:17:06.000Podcasts have made me hate a lot of people that I used to not find annoying.
02:17:10.000I fucking listen to their podcasts and I want to fucking throw them off a mountain.
02:17:14.000The story of how you first met Yoshi is one of my favorite stories.
02:17:19.000I think it's on the first episode of DVD Essay.
02:17:21.000And just how you do his voice, his impersonation, makes the story so much better.
02:17:26.000Yoshi, we're going to bring you out of this funk, but prepare for a fucking avalanche of hate mail from people who don't like dudes stomping women to death, especially when they're in their 50s.
02:17:36.000Honestly, if anyone out there wants to sit here and judge Yoshi, think about If there was a person out there that did your family wrong and what you would do to them.
02:18:02.000What you're doing by partnering up with sluts is an excellent move.
02:18:06.000Because much like getting inoculation shots, it protects you from other sluts being so mystical that they could take over your life.
02:18:15.000When a girl will try to move in and offer you pussy to try to control your financial empire, you'd be like, bitch, I know where I can get some pussy.
02:20:28.000And Yoshi will be at the Ice House in Pasadena this Wednesday night at 10pm along with...
02:20:35.000Ian Edwards, along with Brian Redband, along with Adam Hunter, and one of the motherfuckers that I can't remember, and maybe many more, whoever's in town.
02:20:44.000The idea of the Ice House, I'll call Fitzsimmons too, see if he's around.
02:20:47.000The idea of the Ice House is we just try to put on shows there where we fuck around, have a good time, we use it as sort of a workout room.
02:20:55.000The last time I did it, I came up with like 20 minutes of new material.
02:20:59.000You guys, these shows are fucking amazing.
02:21:01.000They're so fun to do, and it's one of the Best comedy environments on the planet Earth.
02:21:07.000It's a club that's been around since 1960, and it's just like, I can't say enough good things about the staff or the owner.
02:21:13.000Bob, he's the coolest motherfucker ever.
02:21:15.000And to me, it's really important to support places like this because they're very fragile.
02:21:20.000There's not a lot of money in owning a comedy club and I want to help these people that think about bailing out.
02:21:25.000Alright, go to deathsquad.tv and you can pick up one of these fucking badass t-shirts designed by our very own Brian Redman.
02:21:33.000And there's two different versions of it.
02:21:35.000There's this one that is my favorite cat, and then there's that one, which I also like the design.