In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast, the boys are joined by comedian Melissa Etheridge to talk about comedy, fitness, and how to get out of a bad relationship with food. They also talk about how to be a better friend to yourself, and what it means to be honest with yourself. And of course, there's a little bit of a surprise at the end of the episode that you probably didn't know was coming. Enjoy the episode, and don't forget to leave us a rating and a review on Apple Podcasts! Thanks to our sponsor, Ting, for sponsoring the podcast. Use the code "ROGAN" at checkout to save 25% on their cell phone service and one of their badass Android phones. If you don't use minutes, they make it up to you in the next bill. Go to Onnit.co/JOGAN and use the code ROGAN to get 10% off any and all supplements. We're also looking for your feedback on our new ad-free version of the show, and we'll run it on the next episode! . Subscribe, rate, and review the show! Enjoy, and spread the word to your friends about this podcast! ! -Joe Rogan and the rest of the Joes Podcast! -Jon Sorrentino Logo by Courtney DeKorte Music by Ian Dorsch and the crew at The R&R Crew (Music by Zapsplat & The Rambling (featuring Jeff Perla) and The Ryda (feat. ) Thank you for all of your support and love, Jon Rogan Podcast, Brian and the boys at The Joe Rogans Podcast, and all of his support and support at The Joes Radio Show, and so much more! -Jon Rogan, and thanks for all the love and support. - Thank you so much for all your support! and all the hard work that goes out there's going out to all of you guys for making this podcast. -Jon and the support and all his hard work! -Josie & all of the love you're doing this podcast and support you're so much love, thank you for your support, Jon's support is so much so much of that's out there. -The RAGAN PODCAST. -JOSH MILLER AND THE SUPPORTING SUPPORTING JOE RODAN EPISODE.
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00:02:17.000Write down that you're going to do it and be completely dissatisfied with yourself if you don't hit every checklist, hit every point on that thing that you've written down.
00:03:07.000I gotta tell you, when I got a message saying, Melissa Etheridge wants to do your podcast, I had to think, did I ever talk shit about Melissa Etheridge?
00:04:14.000I think that release, whatever that feeling is, that when you laugh, whatever that thing that makes you laugh, I think if that was a drug, if you could buy that, like at 7-Eleven, like you could buy a coffee.
00:04:26.000Because when I go to see like a – like I worked this weekend with a couple of really funny guys with Brian Callen and Ari Shafir and Brian Redman here.
00:05:52.000Yeah, I'm very lucky that my art form is more like I can write a song, I can record it, and in that moment I can put it there and bring me some water.
00:06:59.000Well, it used to be alchemical in that it was sacred, music was, because if you look at the nature of the universe and reality and you break it down into quantum physics, it is a reality that is based on octaves and dimensions.
00:07:14.000So if you understand music, you can understand.
00:07:17.000It's one of the reasons why I understand the nature of reality so much.
00:07:20.000This is what happened like eight, nine years ago.
00:07:23.000And once you get To understand that we are all octaves.
00:07:51.000I have an understanding and a belief, and we're all just made up of our beliefs, and I walk with my hippie understanding belief and go on with it.
00:08:01.000I think there's obviously, it's a beautiful and imaginative concept that But there's sort of clear evidence that there's something there.
00:08:12.000Say if you're in your car, and that riff of Back in Black comes on the radio, and it was just the perfect sound at the perfect time.
00:08:21.000Maybe you're bored or whatever, you're annoyed by something, and then...
00:08:43.000If you could – I mean I'm super inspired by music and I think one of the reasons being because I don't understand it and because – I don't play it.
00:08:53.000So when I see someone that can, to me, it's like, wow, it's like this totally different thing than what I do.
00:09:00.000But I get to see the same sort of energy that makes anyone great at any art.
00:09:06.000I love seeing it expressed through different mediums, that pure, I mean, I hate using that word again, but that resonance of expression, you know, whatever it comes with, that burst.
00:09:17.000It shows the world, whatever it is, whether it's in a song or whether it's in a sculpture.
00:09:26.000You can go look at it scientifically, and I'm just going to use the word vibrational, because if you study scientifically, not even hippie-wise, if you study quantum physics, you'll understand the vibrational nature of The universe,
00:09:48.000They have little machines that can show if someone's looking at a picture and they have a feeling, you have a vibrational, energetic change inside of you as a reaction to that.
00:10:02.000They actually just had something the other day, I think yesterday, where they showed the first thought, like where the brain of a, I think it was a rat, They could visually see a thought.
00:10:17.000I'll try to find it, but it was really badass.
00:10:18.000I know they've been able to figure out how to take an image of what you can see.
00:10:27.000Simple shapes, a simple triangle and simple squares.
00:10:56.000He's a childish one with his wild imagination, you know, and that sort of term.
00:11:01.000What people don't understand is that's what created everything.
00:11:05.000Everything hard, everything you can touch, everything you get in and fly, everything you drive around in, that's all coming from imagination.
00:11:14.000Everything that we've created, good or bad, is coming from imagination.
00:11:18.000The idea that we don't put a lot of respect in that and that we don't look at that as being this – that's the real sort of sacred creator of the universe.
00:11:30.000And it starts with our own responsibility, what we create for ourselves every day.
00:11:34.000And that's difficult because people want to blame.
00:11:36.000They want to say, oh, this happened to me because of that person or because I don't have enough money or I don't have enough love or whatever it is, that blame.
00:11:45.000And it's hard to look at your own creation and what you created every day.
00:11:50.000And if I think we grow up in the wrong environments, it's very easy to also raise children in the same environment and repeat this really fucked up pattern where no one has ever stopped the train and said, okay, let's look at the patterns that we operate under.
00:14:01.000That's why I love when Colorado, when Denver and Colorado was doing that thing, making it legal, they're saying, look, it's just better than...
00:14:15.000Yeah, you're not going to just become a crazy person who can't even drive.
00:14:20.000You know, that's unbelievable that almost everywhere in America are these spots where you can get fueled up with a drug that makes your body not work so well.
00:14:31.000Get in your car, and of course we don't want you to drunk drive, and we prefer you take cabs, and we always say that.
00:14:36.000However, the possibility is always there.
00:14:39.000You're talking about a drug that massively inhibits your thinking process and makes you do really irrational shit, and you're combining it with the access to a car.
00:14:48.000I mean, the idea that people see through that.
00:15:37.000Yeah, once they had figured out how to extract sugar from natural products, and then you can get these massive doses of it right into your bloodstream.
00:16:57.000See, I am not a – I'm not going to do any of this.
00:17:02.000I believe in all of these things in moderation.
00:17:04.000It's all about balance because I don't want to be the other way.
00:17:07.000I don't want to be – I'm not going to do this and this and this because those things are fun and they're beautiful and they add taste and spice to life.
00:17:14.000And I want that balance and it's just about balance.
00:17:31.000It doesn't mean that you're shutting off the world.
00:17:33.000I think that it's not an either-or situation.
00:17:36.000I think if you know what you're being manipulated by when you see an advertisement or you understand the manipulation behind it, what they are intending, if you know that, then you can be safe and go in.
00:17:51.000But if you go in and just watch mindlessly, you will be swept away in it.
00:17:56.000Yeah, it's like a balance issue, right?
00:18:19.000It was one of those – you're talking about – before we went on, you're talking about cannabis and actually the difference between smoking it and eating it.
00:18:25.000And I'd eaten a couple of cookies, and they were, of course, delicious.
00:19:42.000Unfortunately, it was the Catholic Church in 400 A.D. when Descartes decided that he went to the church and he said, I want to study medicine.
00:19:57.000They said, okay, you can study the body, but the emotion and soul, that stays with the church.
00:20:02.000And that's one of the reasons why this break happened.
00:20:05.000And all of our great thought and intention and the smartest of us for hundreds of years have only developed the body separate from emotion.
00:20:16.000And we are now seeing that break down.
00:21:18.000I say you made an agreement in this place to do this and I'm sending you all my love and I believe in you and I believe that you will you can be a miracle.
00:21:35.000When you say that, do you mean that when you see someone who has a disability, you don't see it as a disability, you just see that they're just another entity in this life and just go forward with love and it all works out, in the long run, it all works out great anyway?
00:21:52.000Yes, and it's what you deem works out in the end because a lot of people have different ideas of what that is.
00:22:00.000I have tons of people that come to me who are stage 4 cancer and the doctors have said, there's nothing we can do, you're going to die in a few weeks.
00:22:08.000And they come to me all the time in cities all over the world.
00:22:12.000And I want to, and I try, and sometimes it works.
00:24:02.000I mean, I think there's something to a person that has gone through what you've gone through physically, where you get to a real point where you're, you know, you're worrying about your body ending.
00:24:14.000You're worrying about your trip being over.
00:24:16.000And I think the insight that people that have been through those situations, it's really remarkable.
00:24:24.000And it always makes me wonder why we can't wrap our heads around that without a crisis.
00:24:31.000That's one of the reasons why I love to come talk to you.
00:24:33.000That's why I want to talk because I would love to just have one person not have to get to crisis, but to go, wait a minute, that might be the path that I'm on.
00:24:56.000Cancer, I mean, I still see people, and it's been eight, nine years now since I was diagnosed and went through all that, and people still look at me like, are you dying?
00:25:09.000Yeah, it's a weird part of our life, a weird part of our journey, the body just sort of failing prematurely in some strange way where it's growing its own problem.
00:26:07.000The ideas are very intoxicating, but I wonder how much of it is correct when it comes to things along those lines, like you choosing your own destiny.
00:26:47.000Everything in a reality, you want to say, okay, except for that because that just happened to me and I'm just blaming that.
00:26:52.000Well, I would really look at it that way if it wasn't for massive environmental issues, you know, toxic issues, things along those lines where...
00:27:01.000People clearly, like a whole town gets cancer because there's a fucking factory nearby and they're throwing some shit in the lake and people don't know about it.
00:27:59.000And then, you know, you throw some spirituality on it and you get that everything's a choice just between love and fear.
00:28:04.000And if you break it down that small into every breath, it's like a practice.
00:28:09.000That's why the monks go live on the hill and all alone so that they can get to this perfect place of neither blame, you're not a judge, and you're not a victim.
00:28:19.000You're just right in there in the middle.
00:28:21.000Yeah, the monks essentially give up all civilization.
00:34:11.000I became a much happier person myself.
00:34:15.000You can't fix them, but you can rock their world with a song that changes the way they feel about life.
00:34:22.000And even if only for a three or four minute song, even if it's only for that three or four minutes, the positive reaction that someone can get for something like that, that can affect their choices.
00:36:26.000So this aluminum waste became sodium fluoride, which was put in our water, and it was thought to use, oh, it'll keep us from sweating, which, I'm sorry, you're supposed to sweat, there's a reason.
00:36:42.000Oh, so it's only antiperspirant, it's not deodorant, right?
00:42:30.000If you're into exercise, if you go to his tweets, the guy's up at 3.30 in the morning doing cardio because he's got to be on a movie set at 6. Yeah, he's nuts.
00:44:09.000He's on a movie set for, like, seven months and then to the next movie.
00:44:12.000Yeah, well, everything I've read about him, everything, every interview, every, like, tweet he does, he seems, like, really thankful for all the good things that have happened to him.
00:44:22.000And he works, like, he's got this attitude, work hard to get there, work harder to stay there.
00:44:35.000And as we were saying before about people who've had sort of near-death experiences and became very spiritual afterwards and really sort of understood life in a broader perspective, like that, choosing to look at life that way, it's kind of difficult for people to visualize without the real life-changing experience.
00:44:54.000But if you could, You would see so many amazing things about life.
00:44:58.000The whole thing is a beautiful mystery.
00:45:03.000And to hold it with less fear, then you have a less fearful life.
00:45:06.000And realize that that energy that you're expressing on fear, you could be expressing on positive things and advancing your position in life.
00:45:15.000Think of all that energy you've seen, yeah.
00:45:17.000Yeah, advancing the way you interact with people and enhancing your relationships.
00:45:21.000And advancing the way you approach whatever you do for a living and enhancing your creativity.
00:45:26.000Think of how you think about your boss or someone that you work with.
00:45:29.000The energy that you spend going, oh, there's such a...
00:45:34.000Next time that thought pops in your head, go, okay, okay, I know I don't feel that way, but I am grateful for that job because blah, blah, blah.
00:47:00.000You've got a lovely tie and just move on.
00:47:02.000Yeah, for some people, though, they're always at like a 7 or an 8 on a scale of 1 to 10 with being upset at things because they're sort of this almost momentum of chaos in their life from jobs to relationships to this to that to things.
00:47:18.000They never have this moment where they can just stop.
00:47:24.000When you start practicing living your life intentionally, understanding that it is all vibrational, then you start understanding that the people that come into your life are all part of your vibration.
00:47:40.000So if there's someone in your life who is Always on to seven and eight and bringing it out and losing it and all that.
00:47:48.000And the only thing you can do, you can't change them, but you can go inside yourself and go, okay, where's the part of me that's afraid of that I'm over the top and then I'm losing it?
00:47:56.000And you go in and heal that and then that person will disappear or they will change.
00:48:03.000And I've done this for eight years now and I can say that that is exactly what happens.
00:48:16.000You are afraid that as sexual as you're being in a photograph or in a movie or something that someone's going to take that and take it wrong and come back and hurt you.
00:48:44.000It's such a weird way of looking at the world and a lot of people think that that strange, although non-judgmental, very non-judgmental way of looking at the world It's almost akin to like The Secret, like that kind of thinking.
00:48:59.000The Secret is like the McDonald's of this movement, I would say.
00:49:04.000I feel that a lot of people are starting to understand this on a very basic level.
00:51:11.000I needed to understand, if I was going to change my life, and I wanted to live too, I wanted to understand, to really understand this on a very, like a molecular level, I want to get this.
00:52:14.000I mean, I think the idea that you can – I mean, that's the idea of taking someone's good work and connecting it to some bad work as if it negates the good work.
00:52:57.000Wouldn't you love to get David Icke to sit down with Neil deGrasse Tyson and have him tell him why there are not reptiles running this world?
00:53:30.000That's the part of us that if we can imagine these horrible things that they have done, each of us has that inside of us.
00:53:37.000Well, we're actually way worse than reptiles because reptiles just kill things and eat them.
00:53:40.000They don't torture them and tie them to trucks and pull them apart from each other and do all sorts of shit that you can find every day on the internet.
00:54:05.000They're there just to try to get by in life.
00:54:07.000And they're programmed to not be emotional and think about things.
00:54:10.000But if you're programmed to be emotional and think about things and you still choose to act that way, that's way worse than being a reptile.
00:55:00.000When you're talking about making the choice, like in another dimension, like a psychedelic dimension, making the choice to re-exist in this life and that you create your reality, do you think that people can be other animals?
00:55:14.000Do you think that a life form is just a life form?
00:55:19.000I think that this earth is a place of biological life and that it is a special place that all the other dimensional spirits can come and work through karma.
00:55:31.000It's one of the only places where you can get through karma.
00:55:33.000That's why I don't blame anybody for anything that is, quote, unquote, wrong with them.
00:55:39.000So you think this is like a way station?
00:55:41.000Yeah, I think this is a way station where you learn.
00:56:48.000Mosquitoes, they make like a cheeseburger with mosquitoes.
00:56:51.000They take them and they use a pan and the mosquitoes are so thick around them that they take these pans like it's a giant cooking pot and they throw it through the air and as they're swinging it through the air, it's killing these mosquitoes because they're hitting the back metal and they keep doing this over and over again and it sticks to the bottom and they scrape it up And then they fry it and make like...
00:57:12.000They shake their face off and all the flies fall onto the mosquitoes.
00:57:22.000Yet, none of us can understand what that person is even going through.
00:57:27.000When you look at all the poverty and all the terrible places on earth and the war and all the strife and all the things, and then you look at the good aspects of life and when people are cool to each other and kind and When you look at this big balance,
00:57:49.000I see a beautiful creation that works so perfectly.
00:57:53.000This whole reality is like a super mega biocomputer that is so brilliantly engineered that we can't even see it, that we don't even know we're in it.
00:58:32.000So educating more people to the idea that the reality that you choose to accept, the way your reality is in front of you at this very moment, what you can write on paper and take pictures of, that that is your life.
01:01:27.000When you see, when you, as I have just studied the fractal, the nature, the nature of the universe, the quantum physics, the perfection is astounding.
01:01:42.000And then you start to think, well, we as a human race are just trying to replicate what we see and so we've made computers.
01:01:50.000And we are like, okay, this brain can't think that fast, but I can get this computer to think that fast.
01:01:56.000And all of a sudden, these computers are starting to look like reality.
01:02:01.000Wait a minute, maybe our reality is...
01:02:03.000And then you walk away with, okay, it's just intelligent design.
01:02:07.000And I'm not going to get outside of the game right now, so I might as well play the game.
01:02:15.000Whatever the design is, it seems pretty clear that there's, no question about it, there's some sort of a progression going on.
01:02:25.000And there's a progression going on with human consciousness, with human innovation, but there also is a progression going on constantly in the universe.
01:02:55.000You don't have to call it God, but it just is the force.
01:02:58.000Behind hypernovas, the force behind black holes and the idea of fractal universes, it's the force behind the idea that inside every galaxy is a supermassive black hole with one half of 1% of the mass of the galaxy, and inside that galaxy may very well be a whole other universe with hundreds of billions of black holes and hundreds of billions of galaxies around them.
01:03:26.000You can look at your cells and you can find exactly the same wonderment.
01:03:31.000When they get to that string theory shit and they start talking about everything being strings that are vibrating at different frequencies.
01:04:23.000Bill Lipton, they're based in science and they're saying, look, this is the wonderment we found and we think it means more.
01:04:31.000There's a gentleman who recently did an interview with Neil deGrasse Tyson who I should give him credit so people could look this up.
01:04:39.000It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life coming from a scientist.
01:04:45.000What he essentially said was that in the inner workings of quantum physics when they get to these badass crazy equations One of the things they found is self-correcting computer code.
01:04:56.000And this self-correcting computer code was a type of code that was invented, they thought, in the 1940s.
01:05:04.000And they found this very code In the calculations of quantum physics, I don't know what the fuck that means, unfortunately.
01:05:15.000Well, it sounds like, clearly, we are discovering ourselves, and we're discovering the great code, the gigantic computer that is this beautiful Earth and is us.
01:06:06.000Yeah, well, the idea is that if they were able to create a simulation, that it would be indiscernible from reality, and that what we might have already done, we might have already transgressed from the biological life into this symbiotic sort of computer life.
01:07:38.000And she's like, and I have all these people in my life and I can't get rid of them and I can't get them to straighten their life out and I'm always dragged into this bad relationship over and over and over again and job sucks and work sucks.
01:08:42.000That is where it breaks down because people want to hold on to the thought that it is possible for something just to happen to you with no reason.
01:08:54.000So do you believe that this life leads into another one and you do this life the best you can and then you reap the bounty in your next life?
01:09:02.000My belief, no, no, because that's, my belief is this is a school, like I said, and that we are all ascending and there are those who've gone before us who have figured it out and overcame death, which is pretty intense.
01:09:59.000So knowing that and knowing that he died recently, it was comforting knowing that that guy had that experience and had this different perception which really mellowed him out and made him kinder and gentler and sort of he saw it for what it really is.
01:12:03.000So when I board an airplane now, I think, look at all these lucky people because there is no way this plane is going to do anything because that's not what I signed up for.
01:12:13.000That's not the end of the Lifetime movie.
01:16:08.000Just the technology in training athletes and the athletes, the realizations now of what's possible with various strength and conditioning programs and diet.
01:16:17.000Stanford just came out with some glove.
01:16:45.000It's a complete new thing they figured out.
01:16:47.000So people are going to be able to take this, they're going to be able to work out unbelievably hard, wear this cooling glove, and through no illegal methods, no unnatural drugs, just cooling their body, they're going to recuperate like crazy.
01:17:01.000When they start working with the body's amazing properties to create a better body, that's when it's going to work.
01:18:16.000Isn't that amazing that one super athlete dude is a quarterback, one super athlete in one way, one Herschel Walker type dude, just unheard of athletes, they just can change your whole fucking game.
01:20:00.000I try to be, and I get accused of not being really open-minded, but I really do try to be as much as humanly possible.
01:20:07.000I try to, especially since doing this podcast, I try to look at every point of every aspect of things and not really make opinions on a lot of shit.
01:21:14.000See, I never had a desire to do it, but I was always fascinated by it.
01:21:19.000It never pulled me towards a career, but when I was a little kid, I was probably like seven, and my sister was six, and we had a little record player, you know, play like 45s, and we had only a couple of records, and one of them was The Things We Do For Love.
01:22:34.000Because listening to that, I started asking questions.
01:22:36.000And I remember, I really remember this from being seven years old, that no one had any answers to why they or how they could put that music on a record.
01:24:27.000I will go to my Twitter, and I will go to my website, and I will go this, and you can count on that.
01:24:31.000If it says, Melissa Etheridge said this, you can count that that's what it is, that I did say it.
01:24:36.000See, the only problem that I would say is that on your Twitter, when you go there, it looks like you're responding to things, responding to people, because someone is doing it Through your verified Twitter and they're not saying, hey, this isn't Melissa.
01:24:51.000Yeah, like a lot of Britney Spears and stuff like that do the same thing, but when every time they actually do it, they do like dash BS, you know, meaning like it's her.
01:25:01.000Yeah, they'll write like team someone or another is doing this.
01:25:05.000Well, I think I'll have to go to my team and say, hey, let's do that.
01:25:08.000Which I found on a really unsuccessful comedian's page, and I was very offended by it.
01:25:12.000I was like, what do you got a team for, bitch?
01:25:25.000It's fun to write, like, little things that aren't 40 characters, but it's also important to be able to keep in contact with people like that.
01:26:08.000What was that like being in that situation?
01:26:10.000I've got to tell you, it was a crazy one because it was the 25th anniversary and they hadn't got back together to do this.
01:26:17.000And I remember being – we took a car to a bus that drove to the secret house somewhere that then put us on a boat that took us up a river to a van that took us to the backstage.
01:27:32.000I mean, I couldn't see the end of the audience.
01:27:36.000And so I'm looking and all of a sudden that patch kind of turns into a snake and they all start coming toward the stage and everyone's like moving out of the way because it's all these completely muddy people from head to toe.
01:31:18.000I mean, who knows what they are intending?
01:31:22.000And creating, given that, it's like, okay, you're going to go back into the biosphere called Earth, you're going to go in there, and this is your handicap.
01:31:40.000How do you work through that if you don't have any feelings?
01:31:43.000I mean the idea of not having any feelings and lashing out is a big difference between the idea of just not having any feelings without the need for inflicting pain on other people.
01:32:06.000The belief that if they don't hurt something, they're going to hurt more.
01:32:11.000It seems like with this way of thinking that if you got more people to sort of look at it that way, do you think that that would be like an empowering thing?
01:32:39.000But I need to be willing to go, oh, okay, I'm not going to shoot back.
01:32:43.000I'm going to start a different reaction.
01:32:47.000So if you get enough people who believe that, and believe that if I take care of myself, that nothing What bad is going to happen to me that I can't handle.
01:33:04.000Because I'm not saying the world is all good.
01:33:06.000It's about understanding your balance and what you ask for and walking through it.
01:33:10.000If I can hold that and not blame anybody else, and nobody else is going to blame me, then we start walking, we start moving to a future that is, all of a sudden you don't need prisons.
01:33:22.000All of a sudden you don't need, all of a sudden the way we govern ourselves.
01:34:06.000So people that are in, like, the tower when the plane hits, they made a choice somehow in the world to be in that spot.
01:34:13.000If you can look at it without blame, if you can look at that they, that that was what they signed up for, they wanted to be in it for that long, you know, I can't tell this to someone who lost their loved one.
01:34:27.000Yet, my belief is founded on that I can't blame anybody else for anything.
01:34:36.000But it's also founded on the idea that you're creating this sort of reality that you exist in.
01:34:42.000And that everybody's creating their own reality.
01:34:44.000So if I work, if I make my little hologram, my little fractal of the hologram, if I work making that the best I can, fill it with as much love and as little fear as possible, then I help the whole picture because the whole picture has me in it.
01:35:00.000I look at it as a, I don't have an opinion one way or another, but I do look at it often that it's a combination of that and scientific reality.
01:35:10.000I think that if the super volcano goes, we're all fucked no matter what you believe.
01:39:32.000I went and played pool, because this guy Stevie Moore was in town, who's this world-famous professional pool player, and he wanted to play with me.
01:39:38.000For me, that's like a golfer who gets a chance to go play with Jack Nicklaus.
01:42:00.000Just being up in the air that high, it's a lot of radiation.
01:42:03.000You know, there's a lot of stuff we, again, can be afraid of.
01:42:06.000I just believe I'm going to do the best I can.
01:42:10.000I'm going to stay in the best possible shape I can be in.
01:42:14.000Well, that argument, you know, that way of looking at things is what I've always argued was a good aspect of religion.
01:42:20.000With religion and putting things in the faith of God and having this belief that it's all going to work out, even though It's sort of like, in my opinion, I believe, you know, people always say, are you an atheist or an agnostic?
01:42:33.000I believe people are full of shit, first and foremost.
01:42:36.000And that's always an issue whenever I hear a story.
01:42:39.000So I look at every religion as a collection of stories.
01:42:42.000Every religion is either a collection of stories or a collection of rules that came down from those collections of stories.
01:42:48.000Everybody's stories are bullshit, okay?
01:42:51.000Now, I also believe that you believing In those stories, and you believing in God's love, and you believing in doing God's will, and you believing in being a good, God-fearing person, in the same way that I believe it's, you know, I pretend that the interdimensional beings are watching me,
01:43:06.000so it keeps me on the straight and narrow, I think there's a benefit to that.
01:43:11.000I don't think it's a correct way of approaching it, rationally, because I think whatever merit is in the ancient texts, whether it was actually the Word of God, it very well could be.
01:43:21.000The huge issue is Reading it at face value, using it for like a framework for how you behave and act in this life when it's written thousands of years ago by people with very limited access to information and all of it is ridiculous.
01:45:19.000His really beautiful point of view on it really opened me up to that.
01:45:24.000I don't use it that often because people misinterpret it and people automatically cookie-cutter it.
01:45:30.000They shove it into that framework of predetermined patterns of behavior that have been adopted from religions.
01:45:37.000But I think the heart of everything, good, the heart of all good feelings, is that love thing, the thing that pulls us all together, the thing that makes us interact well.
01:45:49.000Yeah, if you take the teachings of Jesus, of Muhammad, of Buddha, of Martin Luther, of Gandhi, they are all based in the love each other, love your neighbor as yourself.
01:46:21.000And if you can walk with those, really, and to completely take it away from religion, because I certainly, being the big homosexual I am, I didn't fit into religion at all.
01:46:45.000Because by doing that, by alienating that aspect of the population, you missed out on a whole bunch of other people you can control, stupid.
01:47:29.000If you grew up and your parents – if when you were three years old and running around without a diaper on, if you were touching your genitalia – I just said genitalia.
01:47:38.000If you're touching yourself and your mother goes, don't do that, that starts your whole – wait a minute, there's something wrong with that.
01:49:16.000And he creates these unbelievably solid, amazing, huge tanks.
01:49:21.000that are so regulated and they pump oxygen into them he's got it down to such a science that when you're in that I mean it's it's just so if the environment is so perfect completely soundproof you don't feel anything you're floating through space your body is just like the water is the same temperature as your skin so as you float there you literally don't feel the water you're released of massive amounts of tension just a physical feeling alright it's amazingly recharging just physically and then If you
01:49:51.000go in there with brownies, you get to meet aliens.
01:51:48.000Actually, I use the iPhone a lot to just make notes to myself or if I hear a rhythm or sing a melody or something, I'll put it on the voice memo.
01:51:57.000And then when I have time, when I make time, I try to make, you know, two, three, four hours, and I can sit down and really just work something out and see if I can get it out.
01:53:21.000So you write things down just when you have this idea or you record like the melody, like you hum it or something like that into your voice memos?
01:54:11.000And to see people embracing the internet and using the internet as a method of spreading all this stuff, too, it's just, I think, we just live in just very, very rare times.
01:55:08.000And then when I'm done with that, then I'll give myself some time off and then I'll say, okay, I'll gather the pieces, the notes, the stuff, and then I'll make another album I'll give myself.
01:55:34.000I would do it all the time for nothing.
01:55:37.000And then when I get to take that and share it with 1,000, 2,000 people a night, and here they are, and they love that music, and I'm singing it, and it's an energy exchange.
01:56:53.000And there are some people that are not tuned into it for whatever reason.
01:56:59.000It's a weird thing when you are a performer and you are beholden to people buying your records in that chart position or that certain position, that number.
01:57:12.000And you think, oh my gosh, I want everyone to like me.
01:59:37.000And that, it actually, because I believe, because I finally started believing in myself a few years ago, okay, I'm a badass, I'm a badass, then I'm going to draw, but that's what you got to do.
01:59:55.000If you're sitting there going, I need someone to fix me, I need someone to come and be, then you're going to think yourself as broken and broken people will come to you.
02:00:03.000Yeah, this is something that is driving scientists crazy right now.
02:00:07.000They're hearing this and they're going this, damn Melissa Etheridge!
02:00:27.000And I think you're obviously a living embodiment of that.
02:00:30.000And also a person who's experienced the ups and downs of not being aware of the body and then changing it and becoming aware and becoming much happier.
02:01:55.000If you can even start from that, as maybe that which I think is so definite is not.
02:02:01.000If you can start from that, then you're on a journey.
02:02:03.000I think having these conversations are very, very important.
02:02:06.000I think having these conversations publicly and just the consideration it takes to not necessarily accept the idea, but just to consider the points of it.
02:02:14.000As I said, I believe that that is possible, but I also believe in asteroids.
02:03:34.000Unlike a lot of CDs, there's a lot of artwork put into the actual cover, which I really miss.
02:03:39.000I mean, I'm not old enough to really remember too many records, but when I was a little kid, I had a Cheech and Chong record, and it was Big Bamboo.
02:03:47.000And I opened it up, and it was like...
02:03:49.000I didn't even know what Smokin' Pie was back then.
02:04:09.000They'll put out the regular version, which has the...
02:04:11.000I think there's 11 songs on there, 12 maybe.
02:04:14.000And this is the deluxe version that I have a lot of fans that really appreciate the extra artwork and the extra songs and so we put that on it.
02:05:35.000Go to rogan.ting.com and save 25 bucks off of Thanks to Onnit.com All right,
02:06:03.000we will see you tomorrow with the great Ari Shaffir, where he would talk about his hate for the TSA and the great story of what happened this weekend.
02:06:11.000And I really wish I filmed it because it's going to be...