On this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, the boys are joined by a special guest. This week's guest is none other than Rick Ross, AKA The Real Rick Ross. Rick is a rapper, singer, songwriter, and all-around entertainer. He has been in and out of court for the past few weeks and has been dealing with a lot of drama. On this episode, we talk about how he deals with it, what he's been up to, and what it's like to be in the public eye in this day and age. We also talk about what it s like being a rapper in 2019, and how he s dealing with the pressures of being a public figure in the music industry. And, of course, there s a little bit of everything else. Joe also talks about his relationship with his daughter and how she s doing great in her first year of college and what she s going to do in the future. This episode is brought to you by Onnit. Use the code: DEAL10 at checkout to get 10% off any and all Onnit products. Onnit is a performance company that makes the best health, wellness, and fitness supplements you can find. They sell the best in the market! and they also make the best kettlebells you ll ever need! Joe Rogans Experience Podcast is a podcast where he talks about all things fitness, health, nutrition, and life in general. Enjoy! -Joe Rogan Podcast - Episode 14 - Episode 15 - Episode 16 - Episode 17 - Rick Ross - The Real Rapper - The Jerks - The real Rick Ross (Rick Ross (featuring: Rick Ross) - The Not-Rapper, The Not Rapper, the Not-RApper, the Real Rick Rake & the Not Rakey Rapper , and the not-rapper Rick Ross - the Real Rakeys DJ Khilio Brian and Brian Rogan Show - Episode 20 - Episode 18 - Episode 19 - Episode 21 - Episode 22 - Episode 26 - Episode 23 - Episode 28 - Episode 24 - Episode 2 - Episode 25 - Episode 4 - Episode 3 - Episode 5 - Episode 6 - Episode 7 - Episode 8 - Episode 13 - Episode 9 - Episode 10 - Episode 11 - Episode 12 - Episode 27 - Episode 1 - Episode of the Joes Experience Podcast -
00:00:16.000I feel like I have to go out a lot and do stupid shit just to have stories, but then I can't tell the stories because then it will get me in trouble.
00:00:24.000Yeah, I feel like, well, I'm the exact opposite.
00:00:26.000I feel like I need to stay home and read shit.
00:00:29.000You're out there trying to fuck up your life with the Super Aids.
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00:00:38.000Right now, we're waiting for Rick Ross, the not-rapper Rick Ross, the real Rick Ross.
00:00:44.000And I think he's caught up in some court thing.
00:00:49.000Is it because of the Rick Ross thing that he's in court?
00:03:09.000You don't have to do it, but you can do it.
00:03:11.000But we sell all shapes, different sizes.
00:03:14.000I think we have over 100 pounds, but the ones I use are between 35 and 70. Is the people that order over the 100 pound ones, do you track these people?
00:03:25.000Are you getting in touch with these people?
00:03:27.000You are now lead lieutenant of the Joe Rogan Army?
00:03:32.000Got to keep those people in close proximity.
00:03:35.000They're the ones who can do extreme physical things.
00:03:50.000It's because you've never had a strong body.
00:03:52.000Like, when someone can give you a jar of mayonnaise and always know that you're going to be the guy that opens that bitch, when you have to pick something up and you can because your body can do it, you don't have to call somebody and, oh man, I need some help, oh fuck.
00:04:04.000No, you can just hoist it up yourself because your body works really good.
00:04:10.000To me, that is a really weird sort of a distinction that people have made where they try to separate intelligence from physical performance.
00:04:18.000And that somehow or another, well, I spend my time being intelligent.
00:04:21.000I don't have any time for physical performance.
00:04:24.000But yet you exist in the same world that I do.
00:05:30.000In fact, they actually use whatever the fuck the active ingredient in protafidil or whatever the fuck it is in Viagra as a performance-enhancing supplement.
00:05:39.000I believe it's banned now by Olympic committees.
00:08:39.000So you're just happy with your body just doing the minimum amount and get you from point A to point B? Yeah, because I don't want a thousand knee surgeries.
00:08:46.000I don't want fucking ringworm on my asshole.
00:08:49.000I don't want fucking any of that shit.
00:08:51.000I want to be clean and luxurious for women so that they will want to fuck you.
00:09:26.000He must be fucking flying right there.
00:09:31.000I snowplow, and I don't ever go that fast.
00:09:34.000The scariest thing for me is seeing people that are doing those things where they drop them off a helicopter on a snowboard, and they go down the side of a fucking mountain.
00:12:20.000Could you imagine if every one of his fucking books is actually just a gun holder and this whole time he's smiling and then one day someone goes to pick up the book and they pick up the wrong one and a gun falls out and they're like, what the fuck?
00:12:34.000Then they realize the dude had a hundred guns and he was just super compulsive and he collected handguns and put them inside books.
00:12:41.000That's why nobody wants to ever read those books.
00:12:44.000If you have one of those shiny books with the old style binding that's real super fancy, you have one of those on your shelf, who the fuck's going to pick that up and read it?
00:12:53.000Even a robber's not going to read that.
00:13:08.000Dude, that's like DNA. When you reverse him, he becomes satanic and then all that shit becomes DNA. Well, this is rude because this guy works for Onnit.
00:13:20.000Obviously, he's not really a reptilian, ladies and gentlemen.
00:15:16.000We're waiting for Freeway Rick Ross, I should say.
00:15:20.000I say Freeway Rick Ross because we have to make the distinction between him and the guy who's the rapper who calls himself Rick Ross, who says he got his nickname through some other...
00:15:34.000Explanation for why he has the same name as this guy who was once an actual huge drug dealer who was actually involved unbeknownst to him to the whole Iran-Contra scandal.
00:15:47.000Because back when the CIA or whoever the hell it was was illegally selling drugs in Los Angeles to fund covert operations overseas that they didn't want to get approval for, it's really kind of crazy shit.
00:16:59.000And when you're a smart person and you see something that's really stupid, you can have a really adverse reaction to it where it gets illogical.
00:17:08.000And he's allowing himself to get illogical.
00:17:11.000And he's allowing himself to get upset at those people.
00:17:14.000And the end result is you're not really being victimized.
00:17:18.000Yes, you're losing a little bit of the privacy of what you bring on board, but we understand that and we know we're going to do that.
00:17:25.000But I think Ari had to re-look at it, and I think once he did, he started seeing it a different way, which shows you how smart he is to know that he can get caught up in a fucked up way of thinking.
00:17:36.000But it's just, that can happen to you.
00:17:39.000You can get caught up in a fucked up way of thinking, and it's not beneficial, and it's not the only way you could look at it, but it seems like it is at the time.
00:17:47.000At the time, it just seems like the way to go.
00:24:37.000Oh, this is not my current situation right now.
00:24:38.000I know it's not your current situation, but that situation, that girl, you know, you either get that and you have a nice girl who takes care of you, or you go on wild freak sex orgies when you're on exorcism.
00:24:52.000Those are your two options in this world that you find yourself in.
00:24:56.000You're presented with very unique challenges.
00:24:58.000Not a lot of people have those problems.
00:25:01.000With most guys, the problem is actually just getting laid.
00:25:05.000You, the problem is trying to figure out...
00:25:08.000It's a crazy world, but when you're talented, when you're in a position, when you have some people paying attention to you, you get superpowers.
00:25:19.000Right now, you've got freak superpowers, so you've got to deal with that.
00:25:23.000The only way to deal with that is either you go on a fuck rampage, or you find a good one and you settle down.
00:25:56.000And it's not necessarily the man's problem.
00:25:58.000It's not necessarily the woman's problem.
00:26:00.000It's like the odds of you finding someone that whatever is wrong with them fits in with whatever is wrong with you and they both like clink and they like fit in perfect and you actually enhance each other.
00:26:13.000You actually make each other's lives better.
00:26:16.000You can do that, but it's fucking stupid hard to find.
00:26:20.000It is possible, but you're definitely not going to find it when you're doing those coke ecstasy binge situations.
00:26:28.000Then it's all about rehydrating and then finding out how long do you have to wait before you dig and get hard again.
00:29:58.000You know when you used to open up your seat inside your console, there was a phone, you'd slide a credit card down it, and you'd enter in your card information, and then you would fucking use the phone.
00:30:08.000You know why they don't want you to turn on your cell phones anymore?
00:30:10.000Because now they don't want anyone to describe the terrorist events because they're all undercover, you know, government agents and there's really no hijackers.
00:31:20.000Sketch artists are seriously that, I mean, not the artists themselves, they're just people with a gig, but the idea behind it is seriously one of the most arcane aspects of our judicial system.
00:32:37.000If they wanted the American public, which they should have, especially in criminal cases, we have to worry about whether or not this person is a bad person.
00:32:44.000They're out there trying to victimize people.
00:32:47.000They're trying to limit your access to how the court works.
00:32:51.000To limit your access to what actually takes place in a courtroom.
00:33:16.000Like, if they use the word medical, they just throw them in jail.
00:33:19.000If there's a contempt of court, they'll throw you in jail.
00:33:21.000Because they don't believe that marijuana is a medicinal substance or it's not their law, the federal government, they're allowed to say that there is no law, so you can't say medical marijuana.
00:33:32.000So, even though you're defending yourself, In the same country where medical marijuana is legal, you're not even allowed to bring it up in a federal court.
00:33:53.000I mean, if people knew about these things, if you're watching video footage of courts, you know, of constant, you know, I know they had court TV for a while.
00:35:33.000I heard somebody got chicken pox, a rare chicken pox the other day, some famous person, and she had already had chicken pox, so it was her second chicken pox.
00:35:41.000I thought that's never supposed to happen.
00:36:08.000They say that's one of the best ways to prevent diseases.
00:36:12.000Not constant, don't get nutty, but keep your fucking hands clean.
00:36:17.000That's where you pick up most of it, I guess.
00:36:20.000Going from hand to mouth, you don't even realize it.
00:36:22.000It's kind of rude that we have this weird war going on between our bodies and these strange little things that attack us, that make us feel like shit, and literally weaken your body.
00:41:55.000Well, I think you have to, it has to be, like his spelled is Y-U-U-U-P or something like that, so it's more of like a, it's not a real word or something.
00:42:43.000I wanted to ask him about space stuff mostly because that's his specialty.
00:42:47.000But yeah, I would like to see his take.
00:42:50.000The really fascinating professional take on it is the Jane Goodall take.
00:42:56.000That one really sways me because obviously I'm no scholar of primatology.
00:43:02.000I don't really know that much about apes.
00:43:05.000I just know what I've read and documentaries and stuff, but I've never like formally studied it.
00:43:09.000So when someone like Jane Goodall, who when I was in high school, you know, we watched documentaries in class that was a Jane Goodall documentary.
00:44:35.000It's weird to not recognize that there's a lot of interactions and to ignore all of them.
00:44:40.000If you see all the interactions on a street corner, just see people walking across the street and see cars stopping and not stopping and people texting and people not realizing that the light has turned green.
00:44:55.000You see people on their phone with their hand up to their head and they don't see a car that's merging to their right-hand side because their head is being covered by the phone?
00:45:49.000I mean, in the future, one day, if that turns out that that's the next evolving capability of human beings, They just weren't aware of it, but some of them made it happen on their own and didn't know why they were doing it.
00:46:02.000And then the other ones made their life a complete and total mess.
00:46:04.000But it was all essentially their own choice.
00:46:42.000I mean, it's one of the possible scenarios the imagination could conjure up.
00:46:47.000You could conjure up a million different scenarios as to why you're here, why you're built like you are, why you have the interest you have.
00:46:55.000You can come up with a million different combinations of hypothesis as to why and what happens in the previous life, if there is a previous life.
00:47:04.000But you're really just making things up.
00:48:42.000They're stacked up all over the place.
00:48:45.000And then there's a million things that are so beyond our capability.
00:48:51.000Even the people that are enthusiasts in them, like when it comes to cell phones or when it comes to that Bluetooth device you were talking about, the Sonos thing.
00:48:59.000Those things are so outside of our understanding.
00:49:02.000We can read that, oh, Bluetooth is this bandwidth, 108, 111B. Oh, okay, yeah, all right, and it comes through this way.
00:49:32.000And if you were going to make a simulation about the Wild West, the roaring 20s of the technological era, it would look exactly like this day and time.
00:49:42.000So if we really are players in a simulation, it makes a lot of sense.
00:49:48.000The beyond bizarre nature of this reality makes a lot of sense that it's fake.
00:50:53.000This is the open mic of being one of those guys.
00:50:55.000This guy is the biggest idiot in the world.
00:50:58.000What he does, he has a table, and he puts a ton of animals on there, and he mixes animals together that are not supposed to be together, like cats and birds.
00:52:46.000Ladies and gentlemen, we said before, if you don't know who Rick is...
00:52:50.000Rick is at one time an aspiring tennis player in Los Angeles that was a young man that didn't have even the ability to read and became a gigantic cocaine kingpin, wound up going to jail, learned how to read,
00:53:05.000studied the law, learned that they fucked him, got out of jail because of it, and found out that there's a dude using his name Who's a rapper.
00:56:01.000I mean, I guess you can in the right circumstances, but man, he's very lucky.
00:56:05.000But if he set that up, if he actually would set something up like that with a real gun and shoot it in an occupied community, I mean, he may really wind up being a gangster one day.
00:57:01.000Who would want somebody to come, represent their thing, something that you've worked hard for, to put together and then hear this guy come in, hasn't paid any dues.
01:01:13.000Because it's not like, you know, there's a lot of dudes who, like, gangster rappers especially, they'll sort of have, like, a tribute name.
01:04:52.000But this guy, though, going back to the fake Rick Ross, him as a publicist, like if you hired him to get your name and story out, do you know how much money it would cost just to get as much attention as it's got, the fact that he stole your name and the fact that so many people are talking about it?
01:05:10.000That's an incredible story that, like, I would have to think millions of people have heard now.
01:07:05.000What if you were just undeniable and you had a gigantic following, you were the baddest fucking rapper on earth, but your name was also Rick Ross?
01:09:08.000For our kids, you know, for our kids to get that idea that, you know, you can fake it and be successful and really not be successful, I mean, it's kind of ridiculous.
01:09:34.000You watch one of those Kim Kardashian shows and you will shut that TV off and just stare at the wall for an hour going, what the fuck is going on here?
01:10:10.000That's not enough time for us to really get a handle of what the fuck it's doing to our culture and then do something about it.
01:10:15.000And whenever there's any sort of an opportunity to be opportunistic, to make some cash, the easiest way to make some cash is to put some stupid people on TV and make them do ridiculous shit so people go, what the fuck are they doing?
01:10:27.000But you're watching, dummy, and then they sell you Tide in the commercials and, you know, you can make some money that way.
01:10:37.000I really think that it's just, it's not that they don't want smart people on TV. It's just that they want a lot of people to watch.
01:10:44.000And it's lazy, but the easy way to get a lot of people to watch is just put ridiculous shit on, like Jersey Shore, like, you know, just Real Housewives, where you know these bitches are going to scream and yell at each other.
01:12:05.000When you're young and you're impressionable, then you see something and you say, oh man, that shit is real.
01:12:11.000I'm going to try that myself and see if it works for me.
01:12:13.000Just like with this guy William Roberts, the rapper that's using my name, Rick Ross, I believe that he's giving kids the wrong impression that you can go out and sell drugs and parlay that into a record career and I believe this is going to have a tremendous backlash on our young people.
01:12:35.000That's also an issue with you, with this guy using your name.
01:12:38.000It's not a guy like Jay-Z that's using your name who's a...
01:12:41.000You know, an excellent member of the community, a guy who's a real good businessman, a guy who's very smart, doesn't say stupid shit in his raps.
01:13:39.000I think that your story is also a very important story for people to listen to.
01:13:46.000There's a lot of folks that have that sort of nonsense, you've got to pull yourself up by your bootstraps mentality when it comes to certain aspects of our society, especially people that grow up In impoverished areas.
01:14:32.000And I think that's one of the biggest problems in our entire society.
01:14:36.000And I think that we spend all this time looking at things that can weaken America overseas when the number one most important Commodity in our culture is us itself, human beings.
01:14:53.000Everything that's been built, everything that's been invented, everything that's been engineered, everything that's on this earth that makes our life better is made by a human.
01:15:05.000That means all this potential that's in these impoverished communities that gets ignored, all this potential...
01:15:11.000Of discovery, of curiosity, of creativity, all of it gets wasted in a world of crime and repeating cycles and that as a resource no one looks at.
01:16:09.000That's when you really have your shot.
01:16:11.000You really have your shot when you're growing and developing and learning things.
01:16:14.000So your story is a really, really important story to be told because you're finding yourself in a situation where you couldn't read and you're already out of high school.
01:16:26.000You find yourself all of a sudden involved in this drug game and that seems like the only prospect.
01:16:33.000You couldn't go to school for tennis because you didn't know how to read.
01:16:38.000You made it through a school system without knowing how to read.
01:16:53.000You know, someone posted something, because I'm always talking about this, about how many different prisons are privatized in this country, and how many are actually...
01:17:14.000When I was in prison, they were trying out even the prisons that was owned by the federal government were starting to turn the prisons over to Wagon Hut.
01:18:50.000If we put just a tenth of what we put into our military budget, just one tenth, to just Settle the inner cities down, provide guidance, put places in where people can stay if they have nowhere to go, and educate people better.
01:19:06.000Just make it so there's profit in rebuilding cities, the same way there's profit in rebuilding cities, the way we bomb the fuck out of them.
01:19:14.000If we could just figure out how to do that.
01:19:16.000Well, see, man, you need to go up in the White House and help Obama out because I said take some of that money they're spending on the drug war.
01:19:45.000Which is crazy that someone would actually, without having to be there and see the look in a person's eyes when they slam the cell on them, without actually being there and experiencing their pain, they're willing to make that decision because they're so far removed from it.
01:20:00.000It's just them talking to a lobbyist and writing something down and they sign something and make an agreement and shake some hands.
01:20:08.000And then all of a sudden, boom, this cell somewhere down the line gets shut on a man, and a man loses his life.
01:20:13.000He loses the reality of the life that he lived because someone is making some money off of him being in jail.
01:20:28.000And for something completely illogical like most drugs.
01:20:32.000When you look at most drugs and the harm that most drugs do, there's nothing compared to the harm that legal shit like alcohol does, which nobody's trying to stop.
01:20:40.000I've never heard a single politician say we need to stop people smoking cigarettes.
01:20:47.000I'm just waiting for one person to stand up and say, do you know that there is a company that is selling poison that kills half a million people every year?
01:20:58.000Every year in this country, half a million people die because of that.
01:21:02.000This company that's selling poison that they know kills people.
01:21:05.000And they're making billions of dollars.
01:23:54.000If you said, would you like to be able to fly through the air like Superman for three hours, fly wherever you want, or sit down, smoke weed with Obama for three hours, I will take the latter.
01:24:10.000I would smoke weed with Obama more than I would fly like Superman for three hours.
01:25:12.000Yeah, but, you know, you've shown since you've got out that you've been trying to put people on a path different than the one that you've been on.
01:25:19.000I think that's all you can ask from a man.
01:25:21.000You can't ask for a man to not make mistakes.
01:25:23.000What you ask for a man is to, once he's made mistakes, be honest about those mistakes and try to help people to keep them from making the same mistakes themselves.
01:26:01.000Get the pipe, pick the pipe up, put it on there, and smoke it right now while I'm watching it.
01:26:05.000Do you think you would have been able to, I mean, it's really kind of, I hate to say this again, but it really kind of is a gift that you got stopped from continuing to sell drugs because there's no old drug dealers.
01:26:19.000There's no bold drug dealers and there's no old drug dealers.
01:27:53.000Everybody would like to be in that situation, but you demand that, and that's what made you a bad motherfucker in an illegal business, and that's what makes you a bad motherfucker in legal businesses that you focus yourself on.
01:28:31.000You know, I think it's very important that people who've made mistakes come back and tell others, well, you know what, if you go that way, this is what's going to happen.
01:28:38.000But a lot of people, you know, they don't look at it that way.
01:28:42.000You know, like sometimes I want to go out and speak to kids and they...
01:28:45.000One day I'm at a high school in L.A. and they call the news and tell them, hey, they got a drug dealer on the campus.
01:28:53.000And so the news crew, they shoot down to the school, and just as I'm walking out, and they're like, where's the drug dealer?
01:28:59.000They said, it's a drug dealer on campus.
01:29:01.000And I said, no, it's an ex-drug dealer.
01:29:04.000And they said, oh, no, we thought it was somebody else.
01:29:15.000They're not looking for anything positive.
01:29:18.000They don't want to portray the positiveness in what I'm doing.
01:29:22.000And I can deal with that because I'm not doing it for their approval.
01:29:25.000I'm doing it because this is what I like doing and I think it's the right thing for me to do.
01:29:30.000I think it's the right thing for you to do too.
01:29:32.000And I think that what you said about that it's good for people to see these examples of people who've made mistakes and explained their mistakes.
01:29:40.000I think it's something that's missing in our world.
01:29:43.000And I think that if there were more books written, instead of just about crime and glorifying crime, how about it written about dudes who did shit and wish they could take it back?
01:29:52.000How about talk to dudes who murdered their wife and like, God damn it, I love that girl.
01:29:57.000Like, what the fuck was wrong with me?
01:29:58.000Once you settle down, you realize how crazy you were when you killed someone.
01:30:02.000And then there's very few books where people are honest about that, about...
01:30:06.000Or if you let some of those guys in prison, you know, I think that we should have a system where guys that are in prison, in these maximum security prisons, get a way to tell the kids what it's like.
01:30:17.000You know, sitting in a cell by yourself 23 hours a day or 24 hours a day.
01:30:21.000Well, I know they had that scared straight, you know, they had that scared straight program that they were doing with kids for a while.
01:30:55.000And he would be great to reach out to the kids and tell the kids what it's like to live in the maximum, you know, one of the most secure penitentiaries in the United States.
01:32:36.000Well, it's very intelligent that you did that.
01:32:39.000I think your story, like I said, is very important for young people.
01:32:44.000I remember very clearly how stupid I was when I was 13 or 14. I would think about the future and where I would be.
01:32:51.000I could have made a million dumb decisions.
01:32:56.000When I was that age and I think every time you as a young man get to see the example of people who've made mistakes and corrected them or went the wrong way in life and then rewrote their path later in life and became successful,
01:33:12.000I think those are really important for young people to shape their vision of the world, to understand that there's going to be decisions you're going to have to make and part of the learning process is making the wrong decision.
01:33:52.000You know, one of the things that I've been telling the young people I'm working with right now, you know, I got a young artist that I'm working with right now, C. Carter.
01:34:14.000And one of the main things that I'm trying to get her to understand, and she has a remarkable story, too, when people investigate her and find out where she comes from.
01:34:23.000And she was telling me just, she's never had anybody like me to give her the advice that I'm giving her.
01:34:28.000And one of the things that I tell her is that you must continue to develop.
01:34:32.000And in order to develop, you have to try new things.
01:34:35.000And when you try new things, you're going to make some mistakes.
01:34:38.000As long as you don't make mistakes that's going to send you to prison or kill you, you're good.
01:34:45.000Yeah, as long as you make the mistakes that you're just taking chances.
01:34:51.000There's a lot of mistakes that are the most important things that you're ever going to do in your life.
01:34:55.000Some of the failures that I've had over the years have been the motivating factors for success times a million.
01:35:01.000If I had done well instead of just failed miserably, maybe I wouldn't have gotten so excited about picking up the pieces and getting my shit together again.
01:35:08.000I think that some of the biggest fuck-ups I've ever had are the most motivating factors in my life.
01:35:49.000The life that you think you're going to live when you're a kid watching TV shows, and the actual life that you've lived after all these years, it gets very strange, doesn't it?
01:40:00.000I mean, how does it feel like to have a guy that you see on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine, you see your name on it, and you're just like, what kind of world are we living in?
01:40:09.000It kind of lets me know that I did accomplish something in life.
01:40:14.000I mean, you know, when people start naming themselves after you, you know you came, right?
01:40:20.000It's such a fascinating way because you did it...
01:40:22.000First of all, you avoided violence, and then you got out, and then learned how to read, went through jail and everything, and then you came out and you're like this peaceful person.
01:40:33.000It's like you managed to avoid a lot of the negative karma and negative repercussions of that situation, but you also managed to keep that name.
01:41:39.000For the folks who don't know, just give them the real quick rundown of what it was.
01:41:45.000My lawyer calls me one day, and we're talking about my case, and he tells me, he says, man, this reporter calls me and says he got some stuff for us, but he's not going to give us what he got unless we give him what we got.
01:42:05.000He can't do no more than already done.
01:42:06.000So he comes down, we start talking, and he's telling me about it.
01:42:09.000Oh man, this thing is bigger than you, and you don't know what you was into, and then all of a sudden, I'm thinking like, wow.
01:42:17.000Because I just went through the thing with the crooked cops, you know, with the L.A. sheriff that was planting the drugs and stealing the money and had the houses, you know, in Arizona on the river and whatnot, right?
01:44:18.000And they had some cops on there and were saying that these cops wouldn't investigate homicides because you would get a better promotion by investigating drugs.
01:44:30.000If you want to go and be the captain of the station, you don't go to homicide.
01:44:36.000If you're on homicide, you want to switch to drug enforcement because that's where they were giving all the promotions to.
01:44:42.000To tie up that story, for the folks who don't know the story or are listening to this for the first time, what he was saying was that while he was selling drugs, the money that he was earning, selling the drugs, the drugs were actually coming from the CIA, which was using that money to fund the Contra army against the Sandinistas.
01:45:02.000That was backed by Reagan, Oliver North...
01:45:05.000Yeah, Reagan, all that stuff that was on trial, the Iran-Contra trials, the Oliver North trials.
01:45:09.000You know, they say Oliver North might be coming out speaking now.
01:45:19.000One of the guys told me that he's doing a documentary and one of the producers was saying that he's interested in having me in his documentary.
01:46:59.000And more so, I think that we need to reevaluate what's legal and illegal in this country.
01:47:04.000Because we have a corrupt series of politicians that have been bought off and have put a bunch of laws in place and have allowed people to sell all kinds of shit that kills people all the time.
01:47:14.000And people voted to make marijuana legal and they still won't.
01:47:18.000Yeah, they voted to make it medically legal.
01:47:21.000Even the legal, the legality of it statewide in Colorado and Washington State is coming to question federally.
01:47:26.000You know, I mean, there's a bunch of gangsters around this country and they're not nice people.
01:47:30.000And a lot of the shit they're doing is stupid and it's unnecessary.