On this week's episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast, the boys talk about the pros and cons of Sprint AirRave, a service that makes your own cell phone tower out of your house and makes sure you always have good service no matter where you are in the world. They also talk about what it's like to live on an island in the middle of no cell service, and why it's a good thing you don't need a car to get around. Joe also talks about how much he'd like to get a car with a foldable hard drive, but he doesn't have the money to buy one right now, and how he'd love to get an Android phone like the Samsung Galaxy S3 or Note 2. Joe also gives his thoughts on why you should get a bum bag to carry all of your stuff around in. And the boys finish the episode by talking about a new book that's out now, by a guy named Donald Kornorn. You can read the book on Audible, which is out now. If you like what you hear on the pod, you should definitely check out the audiobook version of The Disaster by Sam Sheridan. It's a great read. Thanks to Audible for sponsoring the pod! We are also looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this episode and the book you mentioned. Tweet us if you liked it! Timestamps: Rate/subscribe in Apple Podcasts and let us know what you thought of the podcast! We'll be listening to it in the next week's podcast. Timeless: 5 Starz: 4:00 - What's your favorite podcast? 6:30 - What do you think of it? 7:40 - What are you looking for? 8:15 - What would you want to hear from me? 9:00 - What kind of bag? 11:10 - How much do you like it's better? 16: What's the worst thing you're getting? 17:00 -- What's a bum bag you would you like to hear me talk about? 18: What are your favorite thing? 19:30 -- Is it better than that you're having a bigger or less expensive? 22:50 - How do you need a bigger one? 27:00 | What do I would like to have a bigger phone?
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00:07:49.000Do you think, like, I can't be without my ZMA? I just know if I'm traveling or if I'm like, you know what, I need to go to sleep and I'm not tired, I'll just play on the internet all day, I'll just take it.
00:07:57.000Yeah, because you were offering it up.
00:10:33.000I didn't do anything before, apart from, before my first fight, I hadn't done anything apart from, I don't know, six months wrestling, good wrestling, and then I saw MMA, put myself in for a contest six weeks later, and I thought to myself,
00:10:51.000We're doing, it wasn't like a camp, it was a class three times a week, and I did other things, so different cardio, different this, different that.
00:13:02.000I don't know if some people, some guys have, you know, professional fighters, and they're obviously doing other things, and rugby will be one of them.
00:13:10.000And I'll tell you, oh yeah, I had a rugby match.
00:13:11.000And I'm like, you play rugby and you fight.
00:18:43.000They can't be dressed with ski goggles on and commando outfits and machine guns, and they can't be really robbing a bank, because this is just bananas, the way they did it.
00:18:52.000It's a bank, apparently, which didn't have that much security, and the reason why, apparently, they didn't have that much security is because no one knows where it is.
00:19:00.000That's like, so it's a blank building with, obviously, it's going to be fucking secure, but not ultimate, because they don't want to attract attention to it.
00:19:09.000So no one, and that's why they're thinking it's got to be an inside job, which you kind of look at anyway.
00:19:14.000I think a lot of that stuff is probably inside jobs.
00:19:17.000If you're making 50 grand a year, and you're working in a place like that, you know, how much does that fuck with your head?
00:19:44.000Next thing you know, your cousin starts bringing out the meth, and you're smoking meth with them, and you're like, we're going to rob this fucking place, and we're going to be rich!
00:22:25.000Well, I also think she would say it's very self-serving to be – I mean self-serving in a positive way to be definite because if you want to believe in something, like if you want to really believe in something, you have to believe in it 100 percent for it to work.
00:22:37.000You can't have a placebo effect where – actually, I think that's not true.
00:22:41.000I think there's been a study that showed that they did give people placebos and – Tell them there was a placebo, and it still had a measurable effect.
00:22:50.000Yeah, it was some pill that they gave.
00:22:52.000They knew the whole time it was just a fake pill, but it still worked.
00:22:55.000But I think those are the same people that you could hypnotize.
00:24:16.000And some of it, he says, this is why it's a trick.
00:24:20.000And he'll explain why it's this and why it's that.
00:24:24.000And the only one he didn't get right, and this was the only one he did, he hypnotized the guy, fucking got him to go to the bank, got him to get 10 grand out of his own account.
00:24:34.000Then he said to him, they got this guy by random and then he took him to a roulette thing and he said, right, I'm going to get your...
00:24:45.000Oh, the guy was watching on the screen and he said, I'm going to get your money, I'm going to put it on one number.
00:26:53.000Why do you get crazy and gamble so much?
00:26:56.000I don't know, that's like a question, well, it's not a question everyone asks us, but I didn't ask yourself, you know, why, and I don't know, I'm not copping out here, I'm saying maybe some part genetic, or my fault.
00:27:12.000I understand what you're saying, you're just being honest about the source.
00:27:15.000Yeah, my father, my father, my dad had a gambling problem.
00:27:28.000So he was, and you saw this when you were growing up?
00:27:44.000When you think of it, because there was a And then, you know, when she met my dad, it was, you know, I was like, I remember, you know, telling him, I'll get him over and this and that.
00:28:01.000Because I just wanted that father figure, I suppose.
00:28:05.000But, yeah, the first time I found out my dad was dead was my mum came to the door and let her in, which is polite.
00:28:17.000Then she said to me, because I didn't know yet, she said to me,''Your dad's dead.'' I went,''Oh, right.'' And that was it.
00:28:29.000And then she told me about the funeral, and we went to, she picked me up, went to the funeral, and we're having a coffee, and she talked about it, and then we were laughing after five minutes.
00:28:39.000Not at it, but just because he was nothing.
00:30:14.000That's when you started gambling like crazy?
00:30:16.000Do you know that there's a study that recently came out that said that there might be a connection between gambling addictions and brain damage?
00:31:15.000But this was a connection between that and pathological gamblers.
00:31:20.000You know, that's a fascinating connection.
00:31:23.000Well, I started thinking, through listening to your show all the time, and hearing about the football players and the concussions and things like that, And hearing about the depression, now I was going through, I've been through a very bad depression, and I wondered if that,
00:31:40.000being knocked out so many times, getting conclusions and such forth, and drug problems I've had.
00:31:54.000I had a problem with that, and it's not excuses, you know, because it's not like, oh, yeah, that's why I've got shit defence and I'm not great stand-up, OK? But on top of that,
00:32:12.000taking that, going out, and also it's a mental attitude of not concentrating to training as an effect.
00:32:18.000Well, it seems like you took fighting less seriously then than you do now.
00:32:24.000When you first started, did you not understand the consequences?
00:32:50.000Now, to me, I went, I saw it, I thought, I can do that, and I did it, right?
00:32:55.000I kind of believed it, and I saw the fighting, and I saw Nog, and I thought, I'm not too far off after this fucking, unbelievably fucking naive.
00:33:04.000And then I went in, And I had my first fight and I could do it, and I thought, yeah, okay, I can do this.
00:33:10.000And then ten shows later, I'm in the main event against Dan Severin, and loads of people are fucking watching me.
00:35:24.000So this, um, this colossal concerns, things that you're doing, all these videos and the blogs and everything, it seems like you're really excited about this.
00:35:31.000Like, you're constantly tweeting, telling everybody to retweet your shit.
00:36:16.000I really think that that would be the best way to live the life, live the world.
00:36:21.000If you could actually work it out that way, so being nice and helping people would give you the most currency, that would be the most beautiful world ever.
00:36:29.000It would, but would it be that simple?
00:36:37.000There'd be all that kind of fucking bullshit going on.
00:36:41.000Some wacky coder son of a bitch would get in there and exert his intellectual dominance over that computer and fucking whack it out and have a billion likes.
00:37:05.000They've got to figure out something better than letting old people just keep it and make everybody else pay interest on it and the federal bank and all this.
00:37:14.000You see all these big giant banks that supposedly control these different aspects of our political systems, yours and ours.
00:37:23.000Off the Federal Reserve, like a partial bit of it got printed and it was trillions of dollars, trillions going to different banks all over.
00:39:57.000You know, if you had like a 1950 fucking Chevrolet, those are boring to drive.
00:40:02.000They suck, those old fucking cars, man.
00:40:05.000If you had to get on the highway every day and go from, say, Sherman Oaks to downtown LA, you had to make that drive every day in the heat in a Model T. You'd fucking hate it.
00:41:25.000As in, like, with the internet, with people getting more knowledge, you know, it's filtering through, people are more aware of it, you know, and it's...
00:43:05.000And then that way, I'll maybe have a team that do this and they don't really tell them what they're doing and what it's for and you get the decided effect without everyone knowing what the fuck's going on.
00:43:14.000I would like to tell you that that's not possible, that there's no one who'd be willing to do that.
00:43:19.000But the problem with saying that is that the only real issue someone would have about our government doing that Would be that it's sacrificing American lives and that they would kill American lives and let American people die.
00:43:47.000If we decide that they're the enemy, we'll kill you with robots that fly from the sky and shoot rockets indiscriminately into villages, okay?
00:44:56.000It becomes taking care of your boys, taking care of your girls, taking care of the people you love.
00:45:01.000Those are the people you're with every day in a war zone.
00:45:04.000So it doesn't become about your ideology, whether or not you believe in this war.
00:45:09.000It becomes just a battle, and there's no way around that.
00:45:13.000I was talking to my friend who's in the army, and we were talking, he's in the Marines, and I was saying to him, We're just having a general discussion about how fucked it is about this and that.
00:45:28.000Basically, he's doing the government's work.
00:45:30.000And he said to me, basically, I always think I've got to go back because my mates are and make sure they're okay.
00:46:12.000And there's no doubt that this damage has been done.
00:46:15.000So it's not an easy thing to step in and sort of settle the world down.
00:46:19.000But I do agree with you that the Internet is changing it to the point where that is the inevitable future.
00:46:26.000I think the realization of what everyone's actions are actually accomplishing and actually doing and to what detriment our actions are, it's going to get to a point where things – Level out much more so than they ever have in the past because governments could do anything behind your back.
00:46:45.000They could do all kinds of sneaky shit and you could never know about it ever until 50, 60 years ago.
00:46:50.000Then people started leaking information like the Kennedy Times.
00:46:55.000Before that, god damn, how does the average person get information that there's corruption going on in society?
00:47:03.000You're not getting a lot of it, but you're getting so much of it now.
00:47:07.000It's like every day on Twitter and every day on Facebook and every day people are emailing people links and Twittering shit to their friends and it just gets to a mad frenzy of ideas now.
00:47:18.000I don't even think we're aware of how strange it is.
00:47:22.000I think we're just used to it because we're in it and this is our life now.
00:47:26.000But I think if we looked at life today, just a few decades ago, we would go, this is crazy.
00:47:32.000This is a fucking science fiction movie with you freaks.
00:48:14.000It's literally like you just push a button every time you want to record, and when you don't push it, it just pauses the recording, and it makes it animated.
00:48:22.000Oh, so you just smash them all together yourself?
00:49:40.000But it's kind of funny because is that any different than some bullshit commercial that a company puts out?
00:49:46.000You know, where you're driving down the street and like, I'm so glad that we're here driving on these Goodyear tires because they make me feel secure.
00:50:43.000He made up a bunch of Bob Dylan quotes and apparently he was like a great author but he made up these quotes and then when they like tried to check him on it and tried to like find the source of these quotes he like got arrogant about it and then they started researching it and they wouldn't let it go and apparently they found that he just made them up.
00:51:02.000To put in his book and then he could write Yeah, whatever you want.
00:56:34.000But if she did, what if she had a badass bitch?
00:56:37.000What if she had some hot 20-year-old Puerto Rican chick with thick red lipstick and big areolas and her and the Queen just got caught making out?
00:56:57.000If the old guy, by himself, all of a sudden, boom, he's got this hot 20-year-old Just an unbelievably, ridiculously sexually attractive woman on his lap making out with him.
01:04:52.000I forget the guy's name, like, ASAP Rocky, I think is his name.
01:04:58.000And it's called Fucking Problems, and there's so many cuss words in the song that when they play it on the radio, it's seriously, it was like, you're sitting there like, wait a second, you can't understand a word they're saying, but it has this catchy, like, rhyme that's underneath it that you get into,
01:05:15.000and it's like a number three song, and you can't understand a word that's in it.
01:08:31.000The fact he fought, you know, when I was talking earlier about You know, six weeks and I ain't got a big ego but I've got more of an ego than, obviously, I realized.
01:10:18.000Yeah, I think also you've got to think the guy became this amazing powerlifting champion, this strongman champion because he has this undeniable belief in himself.
01:10:28.000So he probably just thinks he doesn't give a fuck.
01:12:44.000I talk to old dudes that want to show me that they know shit.
01:12:48.000The worst one for me, they say I've got this black eye.
01:12:52.000The worst one for me is people grabbing your head when they're pissed and they come up and they grab the back of your head and then start pulling you in.
01:15:37.000And the guy grabbed, he started saying, I said something to him, and he was taking my kind of kindness, me being okay, and I don't want to fight, I have no reason to, so mine being alright, and he was taking it as a weakness, and I can see it happening, and it's almost like I know what's going to happen,
01:15:53.000it's almost like I shouldn't do it, and I can just say, fuck off, prick, and just kill it dead there, but I don't, and he went like that, and then he did that, and I pushed his hand off, and he fucking hit me, fucking left-hooked me.
01:18:03.000It's gonna come out and roll across the floor.
01:18:05.000See what happens when you get tickling into this.
01:18:07.000It's something that I've always thought of because I'm extremely ticklish.
01:18:14.000And if I was a fighter, I think if I was in some crazy jiu-jitsu thing, that if the guy just started tickling me, I would freak the fuck out.
01:18:22.000No, not when you're in the moment and you're not thinking about it.
01:18:25.000Because while you're tickling the guy, the guy's on top of you punching you in the face.
01:24:20.000I mean, I've been to a few places, but that...
01:24:23.000I was with my missus, Malene, and she says to us, I'm surprised we haven't...
01:24:31.000There's kids, like a little kid in the middle of the road, eating a banana.
01:24:35.000Just sat there, and it was busy as fuck, and the...
01:24:39.000The thing what fucking separates the road was about that much, and this little kid was eating a banana, just chilled out in the sun, and the cars are going past everything.
01:27:41.000So then they develop a taste for human flesh.
01:27:43.000So if the monsoons come or typhoons or whatever they are and kill a bunch of villagers and a few of them wind up in the water and tigers eat them, those tigers now know what people taste like and they go looking for it.
01:28:45.000Do you think dudes will ever get titanium guards put in their face without it breaking, just to protect it, make sure you don't get broken orbitals?
01:30:09.000But so many arguments, because I realize they don't actually, they see a lot of the negative effects and they don't actually know what they're talking about.
01:30:19.000Well, there's an issue with a lot of doctors when it comes to two areas and a big one is nutrition.
01:30:26.000There's a real issue with a lot of doctors that are really not that much more informed than the lay person when it comes to nutrition.
01:30:35.000If you're the average person that reads an article or two here and there about the benefits of vitamin C or alpha-lipoic acid or whatever the fuck you read about, you probably know as much as your average general practitioner.
01:30:50.000They don't really know that much about nutrition, on average.
01:30:53.000Of course there's exceptions to the rule.
01:30:57.000And when you're dealing with something like nutrition, which is, you know, an integral part of your health in the first place, it's a weird thing when the doctors are only, like, their idea of wellness is only taking care of you after you're broken.
01:31:14.000It's not, like, completely stopping all this shit from happening in the first place.
01:31:51.000Is there a point where you think, if you look at your career, if you look at your future, where you say, well, if I get to this point, I'm done?
01:36:11.000Then, you know, you've got to let the guy who's supposed to win, win.
01:36:15.000When you're trying to just be the most marketable, you're looking for the most marketable guy, you're never going to have a legit organization.
01:36:21.000His whole organization was essentially a corrupt organization.
01:37:45.000There was a couple minutes to go, right?
01:37:47.000The thing with that fight is not that I think they should have stopped the fight there because he came back and he had me rocked in the third round.
01:38:15.000But one more takedown and he was mine.
01:38:18.000Well, you take such a good shot and you take so many shots that sometimes people don't know what the fuck to do.
01:38:23.000And I think a fight like that, like you took some bombs from Kimbo and you were still there.
01:38:28.000And it's like the referee is like, man, do I rescue this fucking guy?
01:38:31.000It's a weird judgment call and it's...
01:38:33.000Very important to have the right referee in a situation like that.
01:38:37.000A guy like Herb Dean, he'll let you fight.
01:38:40.000He'll let you fight, but he will save you if he knows you're fucked.
01:38:45.000I think there's a lot of fights where the referee errs on the side of caution and protects the fighter.
01:38:51.000In a case like yours, you feel like you were denied an opportunity because of that, right?
01:38:55.000Yeah, and what I was saying before, I started vambling, but I was backstage, and it had just happened, and Gary Shaw's son, that fucking...
01:42:15.000It's not that I didn't want him to win or wanted you to win, but when they stood you guys up, I was like, you guys are ruining the sport because that's not the sport.
01:42:28.000The arrogance of those boxing guys that think that they could just come in and just sort of work it the way they've worked boxing.
01:42:35.000It shows you how they've worked boxing, how they build up contenders, and they're not concerned as much about what you can do as they are about how much money they can make off you.
01:42:45.000So it's not about we need to test him against some strong competition.
01:42:49.000No, it's about let's get him some setup fights and let's avoid that guy because that guy will exploit him.
01:43:02.000And you get it to a point where the guy's a champion, and then you fucking reek in the cash while avoiding the dangerous guy that nobody knows that will knock him out.
01:45:33.000If you're telling a guy that he has to go to the ground, or you're telling a guy that he has to stand up, you're altering what he would or wouldn't have done independently on his own.
01:45:46.000Well, even if you're wrong, you're attempting it, and it should be illegal.
01:45:50.000To have any influence whatsoever on how the guy performs in any other way other than just saying, hey man, this is your best bet to win this fight.
01:45:59.000Anything else you tell them, like, what are you doing?
01:46:25.000And then Gary Shaw's mate, who lives down the road from him, who Gary Shaw was on the New Jersey Athletic Commission, that guy scored it 10-8 to Kimball, that second round.
01:47:15.000There's a lot of bad, bad judging going on.
01:47:19.000It just doesn't make any sense to me that you're talking about a sport that's one of the most popular sports at this point in the world.
01:47:27.000One of the most dangerous and one of the sports that requires the most commitment out of the athlete because you're not just putting your physical body on the line.
01:47:38.000You're putting your emotional well-being, how you feel about life.
01:47:42.000You're putting a lot of shit on the line and you're not partying.
01:47:46.000You've got to fine-tune your weapon properly.
01:47:50.000Over the course of eight weeks of long, hard, grueling fucking training and to have all that judged by someone who is just totally incompetent and is completely out of the loop as far as like transitions,
01:48:06.000techniques, the benefit of being in certain places, the benefit of holding certain positions.
01:48:12.000Subjectively, When you're looking at all the different things that happen in the round, if you don't know which ones are good, how do you score that round?
01:50:30.000And if you can enforce your game plan on the fire, you're very likely to win.
01:50:34.000And forget about MMA. Forget about MMA. Wrestling for kids is one of the best tools for character development of young athletes because it is fucking brutal.
01:50:46.000And it's really about heart and determination and it becomes about your will to push forward.
01:50:53.000Your will to make sure that you put in the miles in the morning so that in that second period you're the one who has more energy and you get the take down.
01:51:03.000It's setting goals, achieving goals, competition without worrying about getting knocked unconscious like boxing competition or martial arts competition.
01:51:12.000It's one of the most grueling ways to test yourself.
01:51:26.000And the crazy thing is when a guy like you says that, they look at you and go, oh, this fucking meathead wants everybody to be fighting in the streets.
01:56:39.000Little did she know that she was getting involved in some rest area cult.
01:56:42.000Did you hear that the Pope is seeking immunity from prosecution?
01:56:47.000Boy, I started looking in on some of this Pope shit because so many people are so upset about what he did when he was a cardinal, apparently, or whatever the fuck he was, whatever magical title.
01:56:58.000He shielded people from child molestation charges.
01:57:03.000One of them was a guy who molested 200 deaf kids.
01:57:08.000So they take this guy, they take these people, they put them into psychiatric care, Then gets out, molests more kids.
01:57:58.000I believe it's very possible that there's a higher power, but I believe that whenever you let people write shit down and tell you what the fuck is supposed to be done and not supposed to be done, you lost it all.
01:58:35.000That doesn't mean that the people that choose to agree with that also choose to agree with pedophilia and child molestation and all this shit that's going on.
02:02:53.000It's a frightening thing to think someone could get to that position and have avoided what the laws are and – but just what natural – his moral compass should be that a person who's a pedophile is not – You don't put them into just psychiatric care and move them to a new place where they can molest children.
02:05:41.000And anyone say anything, he would like proper play them off.
02:05:44.000So they'd say, well, okay, you can say something, but you won't be getting X amount of checks when I do the run for this or the run for that.
02:05:51.000So a lot of people knew that something was going on.
02:07:13.000So you've got Jimmy Saville molests, or fills up, fills up, top of the Pops, and he's filling up one of these, I can't remember the fucking woman's name.
02:14:14.000When you have that kind of power, it ultimately corrupts.
02:14:18.000And when you allow people to just go into countries under the guise of doing that, you're going to get a gang of corruption and chaos and craziness like they have in Iraq right now.
02:15:57.000And then on that night, I was coming home fucking really late and I pressed the button for the elevator and Eddie Bravo was there and his eyes were so fucking red.
02:16:10.000That's all I could see was like redness.
02:17:07.000And then I go, all right, man, I'm just going to tell him he's going to have to take a cab to the airport when he wakes up because I got to go.
02:17:12.000I'm not going to miss my fucking flight if I can't get a hold of him.
02:18:08.000He knows how to let it go, I'll tell you that.
02:18:10.000He used to work for the UFC, too, didn't he?
02:18:12.000Yeah, he did a bunch of different things for the UFC. One of the things he did was, for a while, and I really think this was a...
02:18:20.000Someone needs to do this, and Eddie's really good at it.
02:18:22.000Someone needs to do an objective breakdown, like Harold Letterman's style, of how they felt the fight went down.
02:18:30.000I think it behooves the organization to have a professional ringside statistician, or a ringside, rather, judge.
02:18:39.000Unofficial judge, like Harold Letterman has in HBO, and Eddie Bravo did that for a while.
02:18:44.000But I think there was an issue with him, and his opinions wouldn't necessarily go with how the judges scored the fight, and I don't think the commission liked that.
02:18:57.000I don't think the State Athletic Commission enjoyed having someone who essentially was a professional critic.
02:19:24.000And the idea that their job is more important, their silly, easy job that they're not really qualified, For is as important as a person like yourself that's put six, eight weeks of your life day in day out, grind, watching your diet, doing the work for this one moment that gets ruined because someone doesn't understand what the fuck they're doing.
02:20:03.000And then he also would do, when you put together like a highlight package in the end of the round, you know, like when a guy, like say a guy's going for a submission.
02:22:25.000I remember coming out to fight, and like we said earlier, I ain't been fighting long, and coming up for a fucking helmet.
02:22:33.000I've been fighting in front of 2,000...
02:22:35.000Excuse me, 2,000 people walking out in their fucking leisure centres and then walking out for a fucking lift full of smoke and lights and fucking walking for a Samurai helmet.
02:23:19.000Because I remember, and the lights went down because the other guy was getting it, I can't remember who it was, was coming in and the lights went down and I couldn't hear anything.
02:24:38.000He beat Mark Hunt and I'd come home and I was fucking pissed.
02:24:45.000I seen Fedor in the hallway, in the reception, and when he turned to see me, when he turned around and saw me, I started swaying, like just fucking about, you know what I mean?
02:25:02.000So then I went over to him, he started wrestling with me, and I started fucking about wrestling, and I thought, oh, in a minute he's going to sambo on me, and I was looking at that fucking cold marble, thinking, please don't fucking...
02:27:13.000People who, you know, have competed in mixed martial arts, if you look at, like, issues, like, along the way, like, guys who have broken hands, guys who have had this, guys who have had that, guys who tore knees, guys who, like, needed neck operations.
02:28:58.000His demeanor was just so different than anybody that had ever been around before.
02:29:02.000That was one of the things that was kind of special about him.
02:29:05.000We had been used to so many different things.
02:29:09.000Certain boxers that had certain charisma about him, whether it's Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard or Mike Tyson, they have this certain cult and aura about him.
02:33:00.000To keep it up, to get there unbelievably hard, to keep it up as unbelievable, and to keep it up for as long as he did, it's like you only have a certain amount of RPMs that you can push for.
02:33:13.000There's only a certain amount, especially in a crazy situation like cage fighting, you gotta think there's only a certain amount of times a man can get hit.
02:33:21.000There's only a certain amount of times a man can get thrown or armbarred or kicked.
02:33:25.000There's a finite number in there somewhere.
02:35:45.000Well, his fight with Heath Herring, you know, his fight in the UFC, his third fight in the UFC, or his second fight in the UFC. Seasoned veteran.
02:35:52.000Seasoned veteran and a tough motherfucker.
02:35:58.000This is a guy that was a super athlete, but he would have had to, in order to do it really, truly, correctly, he would have had to build up slowly.
02:36:06.000He would have had to do it intelligently, he would have had to do it over quite a long period of time, and he should have fought The right amount of competition along the way.
02:36:28.000Whereas if he had gone for a few years in the lower organizations, building up, trying to fight for some other companies, get a good record against some good fighters, and then put together a real striking game.
02:36:42.000Yeah, well, that was the thing, because he had power, and he was explosive.
02:37:07.000That's a guy that people want to see fight.
02:37:09.000I mean, he looks like the baddest motherfucker in the world.
02:37:11.000You know, you see him standing there, like, if you're going to have a guy, you're this big Viking-looking motherfucker, that would be the guy that you would want to have represent you.
02:38:09.000No, because it's the only one that came to mind that, like, you know, when you see that one tattoo, it kind of looks like a statue or the...
02:38:42.000Yeah, well, I think he was at a point in his life, I think his description of it, he felt like he had a knife to his throat, so he fucking tattooed one on his body.
02:38:50.000It's whatever, you know, I can't, you know, like I say, I've got fucking dates crossed out my fucking arm, do you know what I mean?
02:38:57.000So you're not gambling at all now, is that the deal?
02:38:59.000Well, last time, I mean, I'm doing a documentary, and...
02:39:06.000Basically, I was doing the documentary, I gambled up the rest of my money, well, me and my missus' money, and I ended up living in the gym.
02:39:20.000So I was living in the gym on a mattress, and I got offered, people offered me to stay other places, but I knew I needed something big to get me back into training.
02:40:38.000I get extra credit because I look the way I do, and I'm an MRA fighter, so they think, oh, we'll have a go, and then, oh, we can string a sentence together.
02:42:09.000But they gave me another chance, the Japanese, and I won my next couple of fights, and that gave me a chance to keep going, which I appreciate.
02:42:16.000Well, it's fascinating that you've seen both ends of the spectrum.
02:42:20.000You've seen the Japanese way of doing things where you respect the people who show warrior spirit and try, and then you've seen America.
02:42:28.000You've got to get you to the hospital.
02:42:57.000Well listen, the guy, Aubrey, the guy I'm in business with is an awesome dude and it's a lot of guys in MMA wore makeup and wore nail polish, which is essentially makeup.
02:46:23.000If you ever need us to promote anything, you want to get anything out there, and you want to come back and do it again, you want to tell some more stories, anything.