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00:01:51.000It's crazy when you hear that a company is so ethical that it makes you go like, what's going on?
00:01:56.000Yeah, you guys are the CIA. Why are you guys being all honest?
00:02:00.000Yeah, why are you doing so much sneaky shit?
00:02:02.000There's a real tendency with companies to try to make as much money as possible, to maximize their profits.
00:02:09.000And the more they maximize their profits, especially corporations, you're dealing with many, many employees, like who knows how many, a hundred, a thousand, whatever it is.
00:02:18.000When you're dealing with all those people, If you want to maximize profit, they're trying to maximize profit collectively over a group of hundreds of people where it makes an impact on even one of them.
00:02:27.000There's a lot of fucking money involved is what I'm trying to say.
00:02:29.000And there's got to be the correct ethics in place.
00:02:34.000And I think for a lot of companies in this country, they're not.
00:02:37.000I think a lot of companies, they're just trying to make as much money as possible.
00:02:41.000But smart people like Ting are saying, you know what?
00:02:44.000You can make plenty of money and still be really fair.
00:03:20.000And I think Sprint is probably commensurate with Verizon as far as the areas that you can use it because it's a CDMA. I think CDMA is a different sort of a signal than GSM. That's why Verizon's so good.
00:03:35.000One of the reasons why it doesn't drop as much is like, That CDMA can go deep into buildings and shit.
00:03:41.000Apparently it's older technology, but it's a little bit stronger.
00:03:45.000And Sprint's the only one that has that one?
00:03:46.000Verizon and Sprint are CDMA, whereas AT&T, T-Mobile, those are GSM. So it's a different kind of setup.
00:08:06.000Yeah, so it's new shit that we started selling at Onnit.
00:08:10.000We have kettlebells now, battle ropes.
00:08:13.000We have an amazing kettlebell workout DVD. It's the Extreme Kettlebell Cardio DVD. If you are going to do that, though, I would really suggest...
00:08:23.000Anybody that's interested in doing kettlebells or any particularly or possibly dangerous exercise, go and learn from a local guy.
00:08:33.000Find a local guy who's a professional instructor in kettlebells.
00:09:34.000What you do with these things is you swing them around and you use your whole body to pick them up.
00:09:39.000It really engages your core and your legs and your arms in really weird functional ways that help you in real life, whether it's in athletics or whether it's in just picking something up, the ability to pick something up and move it around your house.
00:09:54.000You'll have more strength of your whole body.
00:09:57.000I was hanging out with this dude really recently who was a bodybuilder guy, but he had these little toothpick legs.
00:10:04.000It's so crazy, because all he's doing is doing bench press and curls, because it makes you look good.
00:10:08.000But then he's got these toothpicks that are holding all that up, because he's not using his whole body at the same time.
00:10:15.000You see that at every gym, by the way.
00:11:22.000Oh, but listen, if you are, back to the kettlebells, even if you're already athletic, if you get somebody that shows you technically how to do even a small change like, oh, your hips are like this, you should move them here.
00:11:38.000A lot of times, even if you've worked out a lot, it's a thing that you haven't done before and you don't realize it until somebody who knows what they're talking about says do it like this.
00:11:50.000You can fuck yourself up doing any kind of weight lifting, any kind of exercise really.
00:13:48.000Detroit's the one that leaves the biggest impact for me when you drive through it.
00:13:55.000Baltimore's funny because Baltimore, they're like, it's all these rows where literally block to block, everything changes when you're in the city.
00:14:06.000So they're like, no, these right here, this is a really good neighborhood.
00:15:21.000Living on top of each other is standard.
00:15:23.000Being on top of each other, being around people of all sorts of races, nationalities, origins, To be around them all the time, like you are in New York, I think it leads people to be more open to the idea of being around people that aren't in their same economic group,
00:16:14.000And, you know, I would rather live in a place like that and be able to afford an apartment I can move around in and live in a box in the city.
00:16:23.000I guess it's like, that's one of the reasons why a lot of these neighborhoods have gotten better.
00:16:27.000You know, the idea of gentrification, the idea of like, and that's happened over and over again in New York, where they realize, hey, look, we got a bad neighborhood, but it's just a neighborhood that's got a bunch of shitty places.
00:16:38.000If we buy those shitty places and start building nice places, then it's a good neighborhood.
00:16:42.000And then it's worth a lot of fucking money, and it can happen like that.
00:16:45.000It's happened in the east side of LA a lot more.
00:16:58.000Yeah, but I'm saying like 20 years ago, it was much more Latin population, and then now it's like a hipster community sliced and diced with a little bit of the Latinos that were there predominantly.
00:17:14.000When did one bad motherfucker hipster move in?
00:17:18.000I imagine it's the same scenario as your friend.
00:17:21.000I imagine it's the same scenario, I bet.
00:17:23.000Whereas one dude or a couple people were like, oh, we can get this bigger place in this kind of less desirable part of town for really cheap.
00:17:32.000And then over time, that slowly becomes a thing, and then they've populated an area and totally changed it.
00:19:38.000I mean, they're a little less tolerant of idiots, but I think that the intelligence level, the average intelligence level of people in the city, is like a little higher.
00:19:52.000The odds of you meeting a guy, not knowing him very well, and having a good conversation with him.
00:19:57.000Say if you're in a waiting room, and you strike up a conversation, and it being a really interesting conversation, the odds are way better in New York than they are in L.A. Great, great observation and a thousand percent agree.
00:20:11.000And not only that, I feel like LA has a way higher sketch ball factor.
00:20:31.000And actually in New York, you see some guy who might be like eccentric, kind of weird as shit looking, but then he's like a super intelligent guy that you can have a great conversation with.
00:21:19.000You know what's really fun to watch is somebody who's just vocabulary is, you know, they're so articulate that you go, it's actually fun to listen to them speak because they speak so richly and so clearly.
00:21:32.000I was like listening to him speak and then missing what he was saying.
00:21:56.000A lot of people who are super obnoxious and come off really fucking bad, one of the reasons why they come off bad It's like they're not registering that their intent is not being accurately displayed by the way they're communicating.
00:22:26.000He's got an immense amount of knowledge when it comes to the cosmos.
00:22:30.000And most of the stuff he's saying, you've never heard it before.
00:22:34.000But he knows it intimately, and he's super passionate about it.
00:22:38.000So it's got this sense of theater to it, but it's also insane information.
00:22:43.000He was telling us information about the actual possible size of the universe, and it just makes you want to just not say anything for like 10 minutes and just go, what?
00:25:02.000When those guys landed the rover on Mars and started screaming and cheering when the pictures started coming back, you realize how exciting that must have been for them.
00:28:29.000But that there's so many asteroids close to Mars and Jupiter that most likely the idea is that either that's leftover shit from the formation of the galaxy or it could be leftover from an impact.
00:28:41.000Like Earth 1 and Earth 2. Earth at one point in time was hit by another planet.
00:30:40.000The moon is a trip in so many ways because they say that if a moon wasn't as big as it is, our gravity or our atmosphere wouldn't be as stable.
00:30:48.000Like, our orbit wouldn't be as stable.
00:30:53.000And what stabilizes us is we have this massive object sitting there with us.
00:31:20.000But life never figured shit out in the ocean.
00:31:22.000Smart life in the ocean still lives like a fish.
00:31:25.000Could you imagine if we were running around on Earth claiming to be super smart, but we're still running around killing things with our face?
00:31:33.000We would say, how are we any better than regular monkeys?
00:32:34.000It seems to me that if a monkey can figure out how to be conscious and how to be intelligent here, That a fish should figure out how to be conscious and intelligent down there and develop a way to get up to the air world and wear a big water mask and come and visit us.
00:32:51.000They totally should, but I think it doesn't happen because there'd be just too much conflict when we start talking when they try to open land parks.
00:32:59.000Apparently you haven't seen Creature from the Black Lagoon.
00:34:00.000That was one of those movies they played in the 80s with the 3D glasses where you would go to the grocery store and get those glasses and then the red and blue glasses and they made it 3D. Oh, they made the movie 3D? They changed it and made it 3D? Dude, pull some of that up.
00:39:36.000You watch Father Knows Best and it's so awkward and clunky and fake and not in any way resembling how human beings really behave that it becomes a comedy.
00:39:52.000You may guess it was supposed to be a comedy back then.
00:40:13.000See if you can pull up a Father Knows Best clip.
00:40:16.000You know what's also really bad that makes you think about what were we thinking when we saw this and were people impressed are music videos.
00:40:25.000If you watch old music videos, you're like, holy shit.
00:45:21.000The thing is when you cut, you don't want a character.
00:45:23.000They would censor a character like that today.
00:45:25.000You're doing a disservice to just your own honesty about people because you're not acknowledging that, like you said, that person's out there.
00:45:34.000Yeah, it's like how come you can acknowledge that murderers are out there?
00:45:37.000How can you acknowledge every week on CSI that there's a crazy fucking serial killer chopping up hookers?
00:45:42.000You can do that every week, and nobody has a problem with it.
00:45:45.000But if they had one character on TV that was a racist white guy that was talking shit about the chinks and the spics, you'd be like, what the fuck?
00:46:02.000Well, you know, now, did you see on the Super Bowl, the commercial, that people, they didn't want it run because of the white guy doing the Jamaican accent?
00:46:13.000They sent out a press release about how offensive it was, and it was a car commercial where the guy in Minnesota, a white guy, is doing a bad, or not even bad, I think it's pretty decent, Jamaican accent.
00:48:31.000Meanwhile, they were really clever in how they did that, where everything the guy says is very positive.
00:48:37.000It's not like, you know, doing a Jamaican accent, but just like banging a bunch of bitches, sleeping in a closet, stealing oranges or something.
00:48:48.000He was like trying to make everybody smile.
00:48:50.000I'm a Jamaican pot-smoking rapist, you guys.
00:49:38.000That is ruining the fun and it's ruining life.
00:49:44.000It's going to ruin communication between people, is that type of reaction.
00:49:48.000Did you see with ESPN, they issued an apology on behalf of Brent Musburger for the national championship game when he commented on AJ McCarron's girlfriend?
00:50:05.000Beautiful woman, you starting quarterbacks get all the beautiful ones, and then I bet there's a lot of young boys out there in Alabama right now that just started throwing the ball around, just warming their arm up, getting ready, you know.
00:50:20.000I mean, the implication is that she is only with him because he's who he is and that he only sees in her her beauty because that's all Brent Musburger talked about was how beautiful she was.
00:50:36.000And people wrote articles and had their opinions about how unbelievably offended they were that Brent Musburger was like, wow, what a beautiful woman to this audience.
00:50:46.000Obviously gorgeous woman that is standing there that anybody's reaction would be, wow, what a beautiful woman she is.
00:50:53.000Not like, wow, I wonder what her thoughts are right now.
00:51:07.000The real problem is that they can protest and they don't get mocked the way they would in your house, the way they would in your neighborhood, the way they would in a normal, healthy community.
00:51:17.000If someone brought that up, people would be like, come on, get the fuck out of here, you crazy asshole.
00:51:22.000But because of the fact that they know that they can...
00:51:25.000Could you imagine if someone in your neighborhood was a guy and he had a beautiful wife and you knew that he was a football player and so you're all sitting around and you're like, somewhere guys are warming their arms up looking at her.
00:52:21.000It's a weird thing that's going on where we've been around for so long.
00:52:26.000And comedy and offensive comedy has been around for so long.
00:52:29.000But there's this new thing, this righteous indignation that people are claiming now more than ever, where they're pretending that there's not a joking context to a lot of this stuff.
00:52:41.000That joking context doesn't even exist.
00:53:05.000Now, if someone just looked at that, oh, Joe Rogan was hoping the queen could get eaten out by a hot 20-year-old, you'd put that on the paper in England.
00:53:23.000You might not think it's funny, but you know the difference between someone joking around and a very casual joke around, by the way, about a girl being attractive and guys are warming up their arms, throwing the ball around because they'd like to have an attractive girlfriend.
00:53:38.000Are we pretending that we don't like attractive people?
00:53:43.000And we're also pretending that if If you're factoring in an attractive person's attraction level, then that is cheap and short-sighted of you.
00:53:56.000What about the other factors about this person?
00:54:00.000But you're like, well, why are we going to pretend like their level of attraction isn't a factor?
00:55:03.000This woman who wrote this article, I kind of agree with some of the things she's saying, though.
00:55:06.000Her name is, this is the one who's complaining about comedy does not win a free pass, is the name of the article, saying Seth MacFarlane at the Oscars.
00:56:13.000The idea that joking doesn't exist, or the idea that something that is fucking hilarious shouldn't be said because it's also racist or it's also sexist, is so silly.
00:56:25.000I mean, can I tell you, too, that I feel like there basically are two groups as far as who gets your point, what you're saying, and then who gets upset by it.
00:56:35.000And it's almost, almost split down the line of intelligent and not so intelligent.
00:56:41.000Whereas intelligent people, I feel like, get what you get.
00:56:55.000I agree with you to a certain extent, but I also think that there's one other segment that you have to address, and that is unhappy people.
00:57:02.000There's a lot of smart people that are fucking miserable, and they want to complain about anything they can.
00:57:07.000And anytime they think they have the red light or the green light to go, they will just go write the cuntiest shit they can fucking think of.
00:57:14.000Because they've been looking for a green light.
00:57:16.000They've been looking for a chance to get pissed about something.
00:57:19.000And if you say these X words in a row and they know that this is a green light, I'm going after this fuck.
00:57:55.000Another problem with people that are really smart is that they recognize the variables.
00:58:01.000They recognize the consequences of failure, they recognize the consequences of their own laziness, or whatever it is that's kept them from being successful.
00:58:10.000They are frustrated by their own inability to reach their potential in life.
00:58:14.000So then, when they find a green light, like it's Seth MacFarlane telling jokes at the Oscars, They're frustrated already.
00:59:37.000If you tried to say that about Jennifer Aniston, that nobody understands her, but no one cares because she's so hot, people would be like, what?
01:01:12.000Sometimes people say things, and they just say things because they're stuck on stage, and they start talking, and they don't even know what the fuck they're saying, but they're trying to be edgy, so then they say something really fucked up and racist.
01:04:05.000And that's a real – to me, that's a real social problem that people need to be called on because I think when people think that they can just get away with being twatty like that and everybody gives them that political, correct,
01:04:21.000free pass and puts logic out the door – And doesn't call him on it, going, that's not what's going on here.
01:04:28.000If I was in your living room, can you imagine if you're in your house and you and fucking Seth MacFarlane are sitting there joking around and he says that about Salma Hayek and you guys both start laughing.
01:04:39.000He, like a couple, you know, a couple guys would.
01:04:42.000And then this woman is also there and she's on the couch, just the three of you.
01:04:49.000And you would have a crazy argument about your size, and then you'd be like, we're never hanging out with that person ever again.
01:04:58.000Well, it's the most ironic thing because lefties and progressive people are always espousing freedom of speech, the First Amendment, freedom of the press.
01:05:08.000They're always talking about how important it is to have a free internet.
01:05:12.000But meanwhile, they're also the first people willing to get upset at someone expressing themselves in a manner that they find amusing or that they find shocking but funny.
01:05:25.000You should have free speech up until it bothers me.
01:09:58.000As legit as those quantum scientists go, those quantum guys are so strange.
01:10:04.000It's so hard to understand because everything they're doing is all this alien mathematical language.
01:10:10.000You see them writing it out and in that alien mathematical language as they're writing down all those fucking symbols and all that Einstein.
01:10:55.000The real problem with dealing with those guys is even when you're asking questions about how they came to the conclusions, like how they understand these things and where the ideas of string theory come from.
01:11:44.000If you have an interest in it and you pursue it, you can get good at it.
01:11:47.000I think mathematics is probably real similar to whether it's literature or even athletics.
01:11:54.000It's like, what do you focus your energy on?
01:11:56.000You focus your energy on this, You're going to figure out how to do it.
01:11:59.000If it's interesting to you, and you might not be the best in the world at it, but if you put your focus on it, you're going to be able to figure out how to do it.
01:12:22.000What's attractive to you is what you pursue.
01:12:24.000What's attractive to you is stand-up comedy.
01:12:27.000But if you were one of those wacky dudes like that Russian guy who solved this prize, they were going to give him a million dollar prize, he didn't even want the money.
01:12:37.000This dude is just up there in Siberia, writing shit down on paper, and he solved some crazy mathematical equation that they had been trying to I should pull up the actual information so it doesn't sound like I'm talking out of my ass.
01:13:53.000He's a 40-year-old man and he won the Fields Medal, often described as mass equivalent to the Nobel Prize for a breakthrough in the study of shapes that experts say might help scientists figure out the shape of the universe.
01:14:07.000I'm super offended by the way you said his name with that acronym.
01:14:29.000He urged homeboy to accept the medal, but he said he felt isolated from the mathematics community and does not want to be seen as a figurehead.
01:15:32.000I mean, it's not that this guy wasn't successful because he studied mathematics only and he put all his focus on mathematics, but once he got really good at that, well, then he was able to capitalize on his excellence.
01:15:47.000No, it's they offered him money and he said, I don't want to go back to shock and write things on the papers.
01:15:55.000I just realized, too, that I was talking about people's intelligence earlier in this podcast, and that if that guy met me, he'd be like, are you the dumbest person in the world?
01:16:07.000I've never spoken to somebody as stupid as you.
01:18:09.000If you're at home, and you don't pay the bills, and you don't contribute to the household, you're unemployed, and your girl's out there sticking her pussy in guys' faces, there's a reason why that's not the conventional setup.
01:25:17.000We were just talking about the other day about how you used to be able to go to a town and you go to Tower Records and you can go pick up a CD. There's no Tower Records anymore.
01:27:58.000There's so much music that had been made.
01:28:02.000When you think about the fact that from 1960, whatever, to today, you want to go crazy, you want to go with Robert Johnson, you can listen to some shit recorded in the 30s and 40s, right?
01:31:23.000It wouldn't let a wolf in the house like that.
01:31:24.000I was thinking about how absurd is it, like how unprepared my mind is.
01:31:29.000I'm not prepared to see grown men in any type of fur.
01:31:33.000If you don't have an AK-47 in your hand, or you're not a coke dealer, or you're stepping off a team plane, I'm not mentally prepared to see a man in fur.
01:34:12.000Ivory was worth so much money that between I think it was like 1980 and whenever the band was instituted in 1987, their population dipped by over a million.
01:34:24.000I think they were at like 1.5 million and they were down to 500,000.
01:34:28.000So it's imperative that people understand that a lot of the ivory that you use today and stuff is like there's so much of it, you don't have to kill anything for it.
01:34:41.000And if you don't use it, it's kind of fucked.
01:38:31.000So chimpanzees, because of this, have enormous testicles.
01:38:35.000And the reason why they have enormous testicles, on a male primate, the testicle size is directly proportionate to the amount of Of promiscuous females that are in your area.
01:40:08.000It cares about who is going to make the most babies, who's going to be the most effective breeding, who's going to have the bigger dick that's going to transfer to his children having a bigger dick, who's going to have the most ambitious personality that transfers into his genetics and passes on epigenetically to his offspring and they become more aggressive and more ambitious.
01:40:37.000And all of them are just set up to get you to do shit that nature wants you to do.
01:40:40.000Whether it's your emotions for your, you know, your connection to your loved ones, as real as it is and as palpable as it is to you, it's really also, it's sort of a reward system that the universe has set up to make sure that you keep interacting with people, keep breeding,
01:40:56.000and keep perpetuating the civilization in its current form.
01:41:02.000All these emotions, it's all set up to make sure that you keep going.
01:41:06.000The universe doesn't give a fuck about you.
01:41:08.000The universe is busy constructing a grand design that you're a part of.
01:46:21.000I thought when I said it, it was funny.
01:46:23.000There are jokes that I've done in the past that I go, those are just, yeah, I mean some of course are easy jokes, some are really just jokes that I get bored of saying.
01:46:32.000It's not funny to me anymore, not because I didn't think it was a funny thing at first, it's just old to me.
01:46:46.000It's like when you create a bit, when you have a bit, and you do a bit that's super controversial like this, what you're essentially doing is you're establishing your parameters.
01:46:56.000If you're going to go see my show, you're going to get this, and you might get this.
01:47:02.000And there's certain guys that you know that you know when you go see them, They're basically not going to talk about anything controversial.
01:47:10.000They're not going to say anything mean or cruel.
01:47:12.000And so you know that guy's parameters, too.
01:47:14.000Like if you go see Jerry Seinfeld, for instance, you're not going to get a whole lot of ass-to-mouth jokes at the Jerry Seinfeld show.
01:47:21.000He's dropped so many of his ATM material.
01:47:23.000Can you imagine if he got divorced and just started doing ecstasy and hitting the club?
01:47:59.000But part of establishing yourself as a comic is you got to know who's going to say fucked up shit.
01:48:08.000And the comedians that say fucked up shit to me...
01:48:11.000Even if I don't laugh at it, I'm not particularly fond of midget jokes, but I love the fact that a guy is going to do a joke about anything.
01:48:21.000You're not going to worry about pissing people off.
01:48:54.000I always say it, and I guess it's not entirely fair, and I'm aware of that, but in my mind what I say to people who, as a fan, who don't do things like that, I just, in my mind, go, I'm going to be bored.
01:49:08.000I want to see somebody Do something fucked up.
01:49:37.000When I knew a guy was coming into town, I remember when I first started doing stand-up, I went to see a bunch of stand-ups when I first started, my first year of comedy.
01:49:47.000I was real lucky because at that time in Boston, there was a couple big national clubs.
01:49:52.000There wasn't a lot of national clubs back then.
01:52:27.000Me and Tommy and Eddie Bravo, we were in Sydney and we went to the movies and we were super disappointed with that stupid fucking island movie.
01:53:58.000Because it was like, when you're all drunk, when everybody's drunk, when you're dealing with 20, 30, I mean, how many people were there at the end?
01:56:53.000I knew that once it was booked, the only thing that you have to think about is disease stuff, so you have to get certain shots, but I thought it was going to be fun.
01:57:05.000I'd heard good things about doing stand-up in South Africa for a while now, so I was totally excited.
01:57:11.000I'm all about anywhere I get an offer abroad, I get excited about it.
02:01:34.000Yeah, and he has a genuine passion for cooking.
02:01:39.000I never worked in a kitchen other than in high school.
02:01:42.000I did work for Papa Gino's in the kitchen.
02:01:45.000I worked at Newport Creamery making burgers and stuff like that, but I've never worked in a real restaurant.
02:01:51.000But he had an episode once where they showed him actually working in a restaurant, like, keeping up with all these orders as they came in, timing all this food, and how hard it is.
02:02:00.000How much of a fucking stressful, like, high-stress, fast-paced gig it is.
02:02:33.000He was doing pop-up restaurants here in LA. What's a pop-up restaurant?
02:02:37.000Where they go, like, they find a space of an already existing restaurant, and they go, um, from this, from, like, March 5th to May 1st, my restaurant is gonna, I'm gonna operate here during these hours and these times.
02:02:52.000Like, it's typically a place that does breakfast and lunch, let's say.
02:03:19.000Well, the word of mouth really spread.
02:03:22.000My cousin is the one that let me know about it and we went there and we ordered one of everything on the menu.
02:03:28.000It wasn't like full portion size, it was like tasting style and it was just incredible and it's the kind of place you walk away and then you start telling people.
02:03:39.000It really spreads like wildfire and then now He was on a food show last year.
02:03:45.000He's a judge on that show that Bourdain is hosting.
02:06:53.000It tastes like somebody made it in their house.
02:06:55.000Whereas sometimes you get a Kentucky Fried Chicken, it's so uniform and it has a certain amount of sodium taste to it that it's like, this is a mix.
02:07:05.000You eat Roscoe's, it feels like somebody actually cracked some eggs, actually dipped the chicken in it, actually rolled it in flour, and deep fried the fuck out of that shit, son.
02:08:04.000At one point he said that when he was younger he found a way to communicate.
02:08:08.000He meditated and through conscious thought and meditation was able to Have something that he was describing that sounded to me very much like a drug experience, like a psychedelic drug or a meditation experience, some sort of a breakthrough sort of… Yeah.
02:08:26.000I mean he seemed like a nice guy and he seemed intelligent.
02:08:30.000But my bullshit meter just was out of control.
02:08:34.000And when that happens, there were so many things I wanted to like… I don't know, man.
02:09:00.000I'm just a person who's evolved or tried to evolve my conversational skills.
02:09:04.000And one of the things that I try not to do Is ever call bullshit if I'm not 100% sure.
02:09:10.000I can believe, I can be like, I am positive this guy's full of shit.
02:09:14.000But if I don't have any proof, how can I call bullshit?
02:09:17.000I can call bullshit on some of the things he says if they don't make any sense.
02:09:20.000You know, if some of the things he says don't line up with facts, you can call bullshit on that, but I don't really know whether or not he can actually do that until I go and see it.
02:09:43.000And then there was the thing where he sits in the desert and he shines lasers in the sky and he says it's 100%.
02:09:52.000And then you go to his YouTube page to see what he's talking about is 100% and it's like, One, why is he shining lasers at airplanes or up in the sky?
02:10:57.000So if you see fog, you should assume that shit is fog and not a fucking spaceship, okay?
02:11:02.000And what was that thing at the end, also?
02:11:04.000Like, I might have got this wrong, but it sounded like you said you can buy the movie, and then once you buy it, you can put it for sale on your website.
02:11:16.000It almost sounded like he was saying it's a pyramid scheme.
02:11:23.000A pyramid scheme, there's really nothing of value.
02:11:27.000The way a pyramid scheme works is you get money when you get other people to put in money.
02:11:32.000So say if you're the guy who starts the scheme and you have three people that are in the scheme with you and you say, listen, if you get a dude to give $100 for every $100, you get $25 and you start making money.
02:12:09.000There was no actual value to anything.
02:12:12.000What he's doing is he's offering you, he has this video, and if you put a link on your site and he's selling the video for five bucks, he's selling a product, And if he's selling this video for five bucks, if you put a link on your site and the clicks go through your site,
02:12:39.000But whatever you get, he's saying that he wanted to do that to spread the wealth and encourage people to promote the video because it would be financially profitable for them as well.
02:15:00.000But it means a lot of those people are drawn to kooky shit.
02:15:04.000And another thing, isn't like DNA nowadays fast enough where you take a little piece of that little alien dude and you could just be like, oh yeah, it's a baby.
02:15:13.000Well, not only that, did you know that that alien dude, they found that fucking thing in like 2002?
02:16:30.000Like if there's a fire in a car, The police can go, okay, we found human remains because we checked its DNA as human DNA. Isn't that something fast?
02:17:23.000At least a small percentage of what he was saying smelled like bullshit.
02:17:28.000The anecdotal stories, the way they were coming out, somebody described them like bad scenes in a movie, and he said this and I said that.
02:17:36.000Sometimes people just sort of paraphrase, though, and that could be responsible.
02:17:41.000You're telling a story over and over and over again after the course of so many years.
02:17:44.000Sometimes people sort of paraphrase what actually was said and they put it into almost like a script form.
02:17:49.000And that could have been what that guy was doing because it did sound like fiction.
02:17:53.000Yeah, it also sounded like I noticed that whenever you would ask him a question that kind of threw him off or whatever, he would go into this weird voice where he just suddenly goes, like it got really quiet and calm.
02:18:07.000Like his voice changed into this really weird Volume.
02:19:46.000First of all, he's dealing with a really nutty group of humans, the UFO community.
02:19:51.000And I think if that's your base, and that you're communicating with them only for decade after decade, and most of this was sort of instigated on your part before the internet, so he was involved in the UFO community before people were even online a lot,
02:20:59.000Somehow or another, he's drawing an income from all this.
02:21:01.000He wasn't really that open about it, but I know that he takes people out into the desert and gives them alien encounters and shit, and he charges money for that.
02:21:27.000He's certainly marketing himself and he certainly brought up his site a lot.
02:21:32.000But it's also – here's the question.
02:21:35.000What would you do if you knew that there really was some sort of encounter with humans and aliens?
02:21:45.000If you knew that there had been a series of events that had been swept under the rug and covered up, and you start making a living doing something different, but this fascination with UFOs gets in the way, then all of a sudden you have to quit your job.
02:22:00.000And then as you're quitting your job for something that you absolutely believe in but is totally ridiculed by everyone around you, then what if you have to figure out how to make a living off of this thing?
02:22:42.000But when you have those elements, people automatically get skeptical.
02:22:46.000And then there's the part of, like, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
02:22:53.000And when you're claiming crazy shit, you should have photos and video ready to go at the drop of a hat.
02:23:00.000And when I was questioning them about where can I see these photos, like if you have photos, you shouldn't, first of all, if you have something that's really important for people to see, and you are a researcher, and your whole gig is about trying to get the truth out, You'd put that shit online the moment you got it.
02:23:25.000I mean, I see you're trying to make some money, but what you're doing is contrary to the path that you need to follow to be taken serious.
02:23:33.000Especially a scientific path because somebody that wants to tell you the truth about a huge – something that would have that type of impact on the world and the way it operates, you don't go as somebody that's pursued this For my whole life, I have the answer.
02:23:49.000I want you to give me five bucks first before I tell you about it.
02:23:52.000But it also could be, again, I have to be fair, it also could be that he doesn't understand how he's coming off.
02:23:58.000It also could be that he really, truly has had these experiences, but now he's in a scramble.
02:24:04.000I try to figure out how to make some money off of it.
02:24:06.000There's a fascinating website that details Hillary Clinton's meetings with the Rockefeller family.
02:24:40.000So she's walking along in his ranch in Wyoming.
02:24:43.000He's worth about a fucking billion trillion dollars.
02:24:46.000He's at the top of the financial food chain.
02:24:48.000And he's exactly the person that this guy, Dr. Stephen Greer, was telling us would have access to this kind of information and would want to, you know, figure out what we do.
02:24:59.000You know, what do we do about the banking system?
02:25:02.000What do we do when and if aliens do come?
02:25:06.000And so he's walking around meeting a woman who ran for president, was the wife of the president, the secretary of state, and then wandering around his fucking ranch, and she's got an alien book in her hand that he gave her.
02:25:16.000Is that photo, the original photo, is it published anywhere?
02:25:32.000Another thing you could do is take the Hillary Clinton photo and save it to your desktop and then Google image search it and find similar images and see if they all have that.
02:25:41.000Because somebody has made that a Twilight book cover, for sure.
02:25:46.000Okay, let's see if it's Hillary Clinton, Rockefeller, Alien, Book, Hoax.
02:25:54.000Well, there's also some documents about Rockefeller wanting to talk President Clinton into...
02:26:04.000These were released by the Freedom of Information Act, that Rockefeller was trying to talk President Clinton into releasing information about aliens.
02:26:47.000I mean, he, like, established funds and shit.
02:26:49.000Along with his niece, Anne Bartley, the stepdaughter of Winthrop Rockefeller and the then president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, he established the UFO Disclosure Initiative to the Clinton White House.
02:27:00.000They asked for all UFO information held by the government, including from the CIA and the U.S. Air Force, to be declassified and released to the public.
02:27:08.000The first and most important test case where declassification had to apply, according to Rockefeller, was the Roswell UFO incident.
02:28:04.000And Bill Clinton apparently couldn't, you know, according to Rockefeller, or according to the people who talked about this, Bill Clinton couldn't get any information out of him.
02:28:17.000That's one of the things that Greer was saying.
02:28:19.000Greer was saying that these presidents, like people that want to get access to information, that it's not like you become president, okay, come on, we're going to tell you what's up.
02:28:28.000Like, no, you don't need to know that.
02:28:41.000If he's telling the truth, I really do think that the people – same people that can keep something as crazy as the federal bank in place when it's not really a branch of the federal government at all but they call it the federal bank, the same people that can keep the military-industrial complex moving in the same rate that it's moving now,
02:28:58.000those would be the people that would know about the UFOs.
02:29:00.000There must be – if you believe that corporations control the earth, which – It's kind of obvious at this point.
02:30:06.000Look, the internet is probably predominantly on your side.
02:30:10.000If I had a guess, I know my message board, and this is no disrespect to Dr. Greer, but my message board, 90% of them thought he was full of shit.
02:31:11.000And looking right now, it looks like that DNA test to find out a simple basic DNA test to see if something's human or whatnot takes less than 24 hours.
02:31:21.000Less than 24 hours to find out if something's human.
02:31:23.000Yeah, meaning like if I threw a piece of bologna at you and you're like, oh my god, that's a human, you can take it to the DNA lab and they'll go, no, it's bologna.
02:34:39.000And still play like the good clubs that we love playing, but try to take a little more control of where we're doing it and what we're doing.
02:34:45.000Yeah, I mean you should be able to book shit now because your podcast has been going on for a couple years now, right?
02:35:32.000Now it's more important than, I mean, really, I hate to say it, it's more important than the UFC. As far as for my stand-up gigs, it's way more important.
02:35:40.000Like this weekend, one of the things that Trippie's, our buddy Tony Zara from our message board, He came down this weekend and it was interesting hearing him talk about the difference in the shows.
02:35:52.000He used to come see me at the Punchline when I was there.
02:36:48.000If you go to Mad Flavor on Twitter, you can find out when he's doing them live.
02:36:52.000I did his a couple weeks ago, and he told me a story about when he went to football camp as a kid, and it was Jack Lambert's football camp.
02:37:09.000And he walked into the bathroom, and Jack Lambert was taking a shit In one of those old school locker rooms where they don't have doors on the stalls.
02:37:18.000And that he was shaving in the shit water.
02:37:27.000If you want to laugh your dick off, go to Joey's Church of What's Happening Now, where I'm a guest on, and he tells that story, and it's piss your pants.
02:37:37.000I'm going to get that and listen to it on the way home.
02:39:53.000And I got it immediately at a red light with that podcast app.
02:39:56.000So if you don't like the podcast app, go fuck yourself!
02:39:59.000Yeah, it introduces you, I mean, to the podcasting to so many fans, too, that you didn't know existed.
02:40:05.000Like, you always tend to think of, I mean, you've had, obviously, like, way more exposure and, you know, being on television, but, like, You forget when you do just the podcast that there's people downloading it all over Canada, all over Australia,
02:42:09.000I talked to 30 people this weekend that said I changed their life.
02:42:12.000And it happens every time we do shows.
02:42:15.000The weirdness of it all and the unexpectedness of it all is the inspirational aspect of it.
02:42:20.000Never thought that that was going to happen.
02:42:21.000Never thought that people were going to take these crazy rants just getting pissed off and talking shit about things or breaking things down and take them and put them in YouTube clips and then those YouTube clips would get hundreds of thousands of views.
02:42:32.000I mean, it's millions for some of them.
02:43:00.000Tom, S-E-G-U-R-A. And follow Red Band on Twitter, R-E-D-B-A-N. If you go to DeathSquad.tv, you can find information on all the different shows that Brian will put on a show every month or so, including this Friday night at the Ice House in the Little Room,