In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience: Train by Day, Podcast by Night, all day all day, Shane Smith of Vice joins me to talk about how to get in better shape, why you should get some kettlebells, and why you shouldn't be an idiot when it comes to getting in shape. Plus, we have a show tonight at The Ice House in Los Angeles, and we're selling killer bee honey! Use the code "ROGAN" at checkout to get 10% off any and all supplements this Thursday night in San Diego, CA. And if you use the code: ROGAN, you save yourself a cool $10 and save yourself 10% on all supplements. It's the perfect amount of money you can save on your next purchase, and it's the best deal you can get on any and every supplement you could ask for. Onnit is a company that makes the best protein powder in the entire world, and they're selling it to killer bees, honey, and then they sell it to you, the bees, too! We don't give a fuck about honey, we just take their honey and then sell it. We're selling the honey and you get it back to the bees. You're not going to get much better than that! Enjoy! -Shane Smith Joe Rogans Podcast by Day - Train by Night - By Night - Train By Day - by Night All day, All Day, Train By Night, by Night (featuring Shane Smith - All Day by Night with Shane Smith - by Day - Shane Smith's Podcast by Night's Podcast - by night Shane Smith's Song: "I'm Gotta Get It Down" by Night Show, by Ian Edwards and Ari Shafir & Ian Edwards , by Ian Eddings and Ian Edwards, by Jeff Perla, by Tonight's Podcast, by Ari and Ian, by the Parcast, by The Parcast - by The Jerks And so much more! , and so on, so much so that you don't have to wait for it to be posted on the next episode, you can just listen to it, you'll get a chance to see it on your favorite streaming service? Can't wait to hear it? , can't wait for the next one, it's gonna be better than it's going to be better?
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00:02:44.000Tomorrow night, Brian is going to be at the American Comedy Company with a bunch of really funny guys that are friends of ours, like Tony Hinchcliffe, who's fucking hilarious.
00:02:53.000Really one of my favorite young guys coming up.
00:04:51.000It's just a minor bulge, and it's getting better through doing this disc decompression therapy where they hook you up to a machine, and it's like this slow pulling and pushing where it slowly, like, separates your spine.
00:05:05.000Right now it's only, like, 19 pounds, which sounds like a lot, but it doesn't feel like anything.
00:05:36.000Boss has had two neck surgeries, and he's not getting signals to his right arm.
00:05:40.000So his right arm is shriveled up, and they just recently fused three of the discs in his neck.
00:05:45.000So this is a second surgery he's had on his neck, and then the other day his arm failed on him, so there's another blockage, so they have to go in and figure out where the nerves are blocked.
00:05:56.000He couldn't pick up a gallon of milk, that's how bad it was.
00:05:59.000I have a friend of mine who, I have a place in Costa Rica, a little surf shack, and he went over on a wave and broke his neck in the water.
00:06:09.000And about three years ago, I, in the exact same place, went over, came up, rubbed my face off on the bottom, and my neck hurt.
00:08:17.000Also, every time you go to anywhere and have a glass of water or eat anything, you're just thinking, fuck, I just got another one of those fuckers in my colon.
00:10:05.000I remember somebody said to me, the first time I went to Afghanistan, they're like, whatever you do, don't drink the green tea, because they give you green tea everywhere you go.
00:10:12.000But the problem is, if you refuse the green tea, it's sort of like an affront.
00:11:03.000The tweets that I get the most response are like Shane's Law, which is the more you need a toilet, the ratio is directly proportionate to how bad that toilet will be.
00:11:14.000So for example, when you have explosive diarrhea, In West Africa, guess what?
00:11:18.000That toilet is just arcing ropes of shit and piss and fucking blood everywhere.
00:11:22.000Whereas in Sweden, when you're having one lovely, beautiful log and then one white wonder, you have perfect, beautiful, clean toilets that smell of jasmine.
00:11:34.000And so it's literally like Murphy's Law, Shane's Law.
00:11:38.000How bad you need to take a shit is directly proportionate to how bad that toilet's going to be.
00:14:32.000It's like all of a sudden where your house is is a cliff going down.
00:14:36.000And everyone's walking around the edges looking down, not knowing when it's going to expand, if it's going to expand, if it's going to stay that way permanently.
00:14:48.000That looks like a fucking meteor came from the moon and slammed into the earth.
00:14:53.000We went to one of those in Libya where they actually have like cars or whatever, junk cars, and they throw it in because you can't hear it land.
00:16:56.000And you've got to think, really, realistically, you've got to think, if you live here, it's very possible that every couple decades or so, The fucking earth cracks the foundation of your house.
00:17:08.000Plumbing is spraying water into the street and it powers out for a month.
00:17:12.000You've got to be willing to accept that that's possible.
00:17:19.000I'm prepared for a few months of bullshit.
00:17:22.000But I'm not stocking dried meat or anything nutty.
00:17:27.000I just think that there's no way that with all the possibilities of natural disasters that we really don't take into consideration because the extent of our history, of what we really know about what's taking place on the earth, and the amount of devastation that can occur over an enormous period of time,
00:17:45.000billions and billions of years, where all these unique events, which have been documented throughout history, where They're just starting to understand what caused certain geographic features and what kind of cataclysmic effect that must have had.
00:17:58.000There's meteorites blowing up over Russia right now, and we missed two after that.
00:18:02.000I would say I'm not a prepper, but I will say this.
00:18:06.000You know, in northern Canada, they have these millions and millions of lakes with fresh waters, nobody on them, nobody can get to them, all these things.
00:18:14.000And you're like, if you have a few bucks stashed away, and you can build a cottage on one of these fuckers with pure water, you'd be stupid not to because if shit goes down, And you've got this lake and this thing and it's hard to get to and all this stuff,
00:19:02.000We were doing this story on the world is sinking.
00:19:05.000You know, we went to the Maldives, we went to Venice, we went to Greenland, and then we were in New York City, and I actually interviewed the deputy mayor, and I said, you know, Sandy hit, and it was bad, but, you know...
00:20:19.000Because you're like, oh, sir, I got my fucking bolt hole up in Canada on the lake that's stocked with shotguns and dried meat and fucking peas and seeds.
00:20:27.000And then you're like, how the fuck am I going to get there when there's no goddamn gas?
00:20:31.000And by the way, you can't get out the bridges and you can't get out the tunnels.
00:20:37.000And at that point, you're sort of saying, well, I don't know what you're prepping for, but if something bad, like really cataclysmic happens, we're fucked.
00:20:59.000You could develop a real sense of community.
00:21:02.000It would actually be kind of something refreshing if you could actually ensure that you weren't going to get attacked by roving hordes of outlaws that had given up on society and started robbing people.
00:21:13.000You know, if we had something to, not necessarily something that kills a bunch of people, but something that gets everybody scared enough to bond together.
00:21:41.000That's why we're fighting all the time.
00:21:44.000There's only a certain amount of carrots, and they're trying to get your carrots, and you've got to defend your carrots so your kids can eat.
00:21:48.000So it was a continual warfare, and it was the community all supporting each other.
00:21:52.000That's also why we have this tremendous desire to be around each other, this tremendous desire for community, for fellowship.
00:22:44.000Well, my thing is, you know, we're a learned species.
00:22:48.000We learn most things, but we are hardwired for three basic things, which is survive, which is why people commit suicide, they figure are crazy, because you're going against your hardwiring.
00:23:45.000Yeah, I think if we could figure out how to truly recognize that all people that can speak English and that can follow a certain ethic, just to be cool to people and just be friendly and be nice to people, just that attitude alone,
00:24:01.000if that is possible to change, if it's possible to heal people psychologically enough to where they don't lash out at others, like for whatever reason, for their own mistakes, for their own I mean,
00:24:22.000I think we're literally that close to it.
00:24:28.000The number one thing that was missing throughout all of human history was the ability for all of us, all of us to have a say, all of us to be able to express ourselves, all of us to connect, all of us to figure out how to get information with no boundaries as far as countries and time-limp zones and internet connections.
00:24:50.000That I feel like there's never been a time like this before where people might have a chance of taking a step back.
00:24:58.000It's just overcoming the amount of momentum that's behind it as far as tradition and government and rules and regulations and how we've always done things.
00:25:07.000But if we could just relax, if everybody could just relax and understand that there's no secrets anymore as far as Where the oil comes from or where the money goes.
00:25:21.000There can be a way where instead of being insanely overbalanced, where the money is going to these foreign banks and all this crazy shit, You guys would be happier too, you super rich guys, if you had less money but no evil karma to go with it.
00:25:37.000I'm not you, I'm talking about banker type characters.
00:25:40.000If you're a banker and you're one of those evil cunts that has a house in the Hamptons and you have these people that are around you all the time and you've made a billion dollars by finagling your way through Wall Street and you're just this maniacal Gordon Gekko type character,
00:26:34.000And I think that humans generally are capable of incredibly...
00:26:40.000I mean, you see heroes every day and incredibly sort of heroic feats and communities sticking together and humanity sticking together and all this stuff.
00:28:03.000That's the problem, because it's like apocalypse now, right?
00:28:07.000And they're like, you know, we went in and inoculated, this is fiction, by the way, but we went in and inoculated the arms, and then the, you know, the Viet Cong came in and cut the arms off, and they're like, you know, Kurtz, when he's going crazy, is saying, you know, how are we going to win against that?
00:28:20.000These are the kinds of things that we are capable of.
00:28:22.000These are the kinds of things that are happening today.
00:28:25.000Well, I mean, it's fiction within the movie, but the reason why I brought it up is when I was interviewing the Taliban and they were telling me about that they were going to continue to use child suicide bombers, all I could think of was this quote from the movie of,
00:28:43.000if they're going to cut off the arms of their own children because they were inoculized by the Americans, then how can we win against that?
00:28:51.000And I was thinking, if they're going to send their own kids to be suicide bombers, then how are we going to win against that?
00:28:55.000You definitely can't do it militarily because then it's just one-upmanship.
00:29:28.000No, they make you their sworn enemy, and they want to come back and get you.
00:29:31.000And a lot of times, those situations where you make an enemy for life could have been avoided if you went out of your way to be, whatever, more apologetic, friendly, or nicer, understand his point of view, and then he probably would concede a little bit too,
00:29:46.000and then maybe you could get a drink, and then maybe you could be friends.
00:29:49.000I mean, there's a lot of moments like that in life where it could go one way when you get in a fistfight with someone that was totally avoidable, but...
00:29:57.000Maybe you were in a shit mood because your girlfriend just dumped you or maybe he said something that he wished he didn't say but he's fucking 22 and you say stupid shit and you don't even really mean it.
00:30:07.000You don't even know what the fuck you're doing.
00:30:08.000You're just making noise with your mouth and practicing being a person.
00:30:12.000And next thing you know, you've got an enemy for life.
00:30:14.000Yeah, the other thing is, you know, it's a game where psychopaths win.
00:30:19.000And it pays to be a psychopath in those situations.
00:30:23.000Well, because, you know, you see guys who are going out there and, you know, you're going to have a fistfight in the back alley.
00:30:28.000And then, you know, I was in a place one time where there was a fistfight and a guy sucked out a guy's eyeball and then just tore it out with his teeth.
00:33:48.000Yeah, and then there was also speculation that he was told to throw the fight, that the people had bet on it, but he looked terrible.
00:33:55.000He just didn't look, and then he quit.
00:33:56.000And then after he quit, man, fucking Latinos, all the people that supported him, all the Spanish-speaking world were so upset because he was this macho, fucking savage representative of everything.
00:38:27.000I was watching this at home on TV, and Tyson just destroyed Marvis Fraser in the most violent fight I had ever seen in a boxing match.
00:38:37.000And I thought to myself back then, I was like, if there's one person that would be the most terrifying person to be encountered with, it would be Mike Tyson, that has ever lived.
00:39:23.000First of all, once you've gotten there, it's got to be a very strange and uncharted place in your mind and in your ability to maintain discipline.
00:39:48.000And more importantly, Customato was one of the greatest psychological trainers of all time.
00:39:52.000And he saw in him, he said, he's the greatest raw talent I've ever seen.
00:39:56.000And he would, Customato would say things that to this day, there's, you can have a short, precise point that an athlete can digest and take with him as he steps out of the locker room and into the ring that actually can help.
00:40:12.000And Customato said one of the most brilliant things that I've ever heard when it comes to being terrified in the face of combat and in the face of a fight.
00:40:21.000And he said that every man experiences fire.
00:40:24.000And that fire can cook your food, it can heat your house, or if you let it get away, it can burn you to the ground.
00:40:31.000And you have to decide how to take care of it.
00:40:34.000But the coward and the hero feel the exact same thing.
00:40:39.000It falls into the pressure where the hero figures out how to manage it and overcome it and actually rises to the occasion and keeps it together.
00:40:47.000So for Custom Mono, he had studied psychology and he had studied so many aspects that are crucial to success in that crazy, isolated type of a sport.
00:41:02.000You've got a guy like Tyson who's this needy, young, energetic, physical specimen, just Just filled with anger and rage and not getting enough love.
00:41:13.000And all of a sudden this Yoda motherfucker comes out of the Catskills.
00:43:00.000Well, the mutations are mostly internal because the exclusion zone, which is a huge area, is radioactive and so they've undergone mutations.
00:43:13.000I actually read something the other day saying I'm from Ukraine and there's all these horses out there and there aren't mutations.
00:43:20.000We actually have the guys, the people who run the exclusion zone, admitting on camera Yes, they're mutated.
00:43:30.000The scientists are saying they're mutated.
00:43:32.000And of course they're mutated because they're growing up in a radioactive zone about the size of France.
00:43:42.000The thing is, we had a Geiger counter with us.
00:43:46.000And whenever you go off and they go into the forest, the forest, which is where all the dirt and everything is trapped, it would go off the register.
00:44:23.000Have you seen the fish of Chernobyl, those videos of these enormous fish?
00:44:27.000Brian, pull that up because it's really strange.
00:44:30.000I mean, I don't know, maybe these fish, maybe I'm just ignorant and they're like sturgeons or something.
00:44:33.000If you look at now, too, if you look at what's happening in Japan, they have massive protests in Japan saying you have to stop nuclear energy.
00:44:43.000Look at what the fuck happened in in Fukushima because you know we had a tsunami which we're gonna have more and more of but guess what now we have whole radioactive villages and you know radiation in the groundwater radiation all but radiation in the food What is that?
00:45:39.000We had this dude, Scott Sigler, on the podcast yesterday, and he's an author, and he writes about shit like that, like a fucking island of mutated animals that are 650 pounds, and they're packed predators with fins.
00:45:51.000So you're freaking me out right now, man.
00:45:53.000You're freaking me out with these Siberian werewolf stories.
00:45:57.000That would be an awesome movie, though, Siberian werewolf, because of the mutation.
00:46:02.000That was like, you know, almost all of the like, like when you were a kid, but well, not all of them, but it was always a constant theme for superheroes.
00:46:43.000We're like, how the hell did the Fantastic Four become so...
00:46:46.000I've always liked the Fantastic Four, man.
00:46:50.000I always liked comic books when I was a kid.
00:46:53.000And that was such a big theme that somehow or another you would get into some encounter with massive amounts of radiation, but you would become a superhero.
00:47:03.000And so every kid sort of looked at that like, wow, yeah, man.
00:47:06.000As opposed to, you know, what it does to you.
00:47:10.000Bunnies being born with no arms or legs.
00:47:29.000And, you know, eventually get to the point where it either figures out how to clean everything up or mutates to the point where you can tolerate it.
00:47:36.000But it's not going to be fun, you know?
00:47:41.000Well, when we interviewed the IAEA for our World's Most Dangerous Border piece, which I think we talked about here, India, Pakistan, and Kashmir, which actually the fort that we were based out of just got attacked yesterday, They said categorically that if you use more than 100 warheads,
00:48:00.000of which they have hundreds of warheads pointing at each other in Pakistan, that the world, as we know it, ceases to exist.
00:48:07.000Everything is just, I mean, the ozone is gone.
00:48:11.000It's like, you know, the Planet of the Apes dudes who are living underground?
00:48:14.000That's the type of shit that you're, you know, and you sit there and say, this is what's happening today is that India and Pakistan hating each other mean that, you know, we have the distinct possibility that Our ozone is gone or...
00:48:28.000That one of these crazy fucks pushes the button.
00:50:31.000I see an equation that you have to solve.
00:50:36.000And what you need to do is bring in more crazy bitches.
00:50:40.000What's happening is they kick the men, the boys, out.
00:50:43.000And so these kids who grew up in this religion that says everybody else is evil and you can't do anything and they don't know how to pay bills, they don't know anything.
00:50:50.000They just kick them out and said, okay, you're gone now.
00:52:03.000Is it just a way the body is designed that some of us are worker bees and some of us are middle management and some of us are the contrarians hanging on the outside like you or I? Life is hard.
00:54:41.000I really do think, all bullshit aside, that your shit that you guys are doing on Vice.com has as much of an impact on where this culture is going and the potential that this culture has for understanding The true inner workings of all the various aspects of intergovernmental relationships and nutty places like Chernobyl and the Liberia episode.
00:55:10.000I didn't know anything about Liberia until I watched that show.
00:55:26.000You guys have exposed me to some of the most little understood, little talked about things that are so bizarre and hard to believe that exist today.
00:55:42.000Your audience is maybe the best audience in the goddamn world because we, you know, people used to say Vice was the best content on the web that you've never seen.
00:55:51.000And when we started to come out here and do this podcast, all of a sudden we'd get these, you know, fanatical, sort of positivist, wow, like great responses.
00:56:00.000And it was always with the hashtag, you know, Powerful or Rogan or whatever.
00:56:09.000That says a lot about you, but it also says a lot about the people who listen to this podcast, which is they're thinking for themselves.
00:56:16.000They're listening to alternative shit.
00:56:18.000They're not believing the bullshit that they see on regular mainstream TV. And look, they're positive when someone says, look, like you said, you and I live on the periphery.
00:56:28.000And we live on the periphery, but we're trying to do our thing.
00:57:03.000And by the way, the people on this podcast are doing it.
00:57:06.000And the more people that actually educate themselves and listen to you and come in here and check on those links, that's fucking how we change shit.
00:57:14.000We shouldn't expect anyone else to change the shit for you because they won't.
00:57:17.000I agree with you, and I also believe that it's also a matter of projecting...
00:57:52.000They sort of like get this view like okay, here's this fucking guy who's out here doing all this crazy shit and he's saying all these things like this guy has no reason to lie to me this guy's he's not like anybody that I've ever met before but yet I'm sort of absorbing his thoughts and by doing that you're injecting these ideas that might not have ever manifest themselves in hundreds of thousands and millions of people and that's some powerful,
00:58:19.000powerful, powerful shit And it's not on CBS, and it's not on NBC, and it's never going to be.
00:58:24.000It's never going to be broadcast by anybody that doesn't want to risk everything they already have.
00:58:33.000And this is another thing I want to say about the people on this podcast.
00:58:36.000A lot of times, for example, what just went down in North Korea, we get attacked by mainstream media.
00:58:44.000And yet, you know, people who are on the periphery, people who are watching us, people are just like, exactly, this is exactly what the fuck we want to have go on.
00:58:52.000Well, nobody exposed mainstream, well, nobody in the mainstream, rather, exposed North Korea the way that you guys did.
00:58:58.000When you went to North Korea and showed those fake restaurants and showed just how spooky and nutty the atmosphere was over there, We were not...
00:59:09.000There was no shows that were doing that.
00:59:50.000It's hard to do that without this fucking faggot.
00:59:53.000It's hard to do that without someone being mad at you.
00:59:56.000It's hard to do that without protecting your ego.
00:59:58.000How are people going to think about you?
01:00:00.000You're hanging out with these ladyboys.
01:00:02.000You were just a guy who was there and he was trying to be nice to some other people and they were being nice to you back and it was the right thing to do and it resonated.
01:00:10.000And I remember watching that video going, this guy's a cool motherfucker.
01:00:14.000And I... I think that was before I even saw Heinmo's adventure, Arctic Adventure, which was the thing that really made me a vice addict.
01:00:25.000I look at vice.com more than any other website on the net, pretty much, other than Twitter and checking my own email.
01:01:57.000There was an issue that came up last week or earlier this week about transgender MMA fighters.
01:02:03.000There's a woman who used to be a man who's now fighting in MMA against women.
01:02:11.000I've gotten some heat about it on Twitter that I took the wrong stance because I said that that's a guy that cut his dick off and he's fighting girls.
01:04:28.000Well, also then you start to deal with, you know, the questions of there's steroids involved and there's different things and enhancements and other weird shit that's involved and all that stuff.
01:04:37.000Also, the predatory mind of the male is a very different mindset.
01:04:41.000If you're 30 years old and you get your dick cut off at 30, you've had 30 years of man living.
01:05:24.000Because I said that although I support anybody becoming transgender, if that's what you really want to do, I would never tell anybody what they can and can't do.
01:06:16.000And I was just like, well, you got to think that, you know, if you're in most countries, maybe not Thailand, but if you're a ladyboy or a female or transgender or whatever, they're fighting all the fucking time, you know?
01:06:29.000And so, you know, anyway, I saw that video and it was just kind of like, because I hate those, I was just in Thailand at a conference and there's all these fucking, you know, Australian sort of rugby dudes who are just spoiling for a fight, just They just want to go and they just want to fight.
01:08:47.000And, you know, when you see these dudes come out and they have a few drinks in them and they get all, you know, randified and you're just like...
01:09:30.000Let me say most professional fighters.
01:09:33.000A guy like Tank Abbott, he's one of my favorite fighters of all time.
01:09:36.000And one of the reasons why is not because he was the best, not because he was the most technical or won the most titles, is that you genuinely knew for a fact, 100%, no doubt about it, If you fucking flap your gums in front of Tank Abbott,
01:09:52.000he's going to make you swallow your teeth.
01:09:54.000It doesn't matter if you're on a Greyhound bus or on a fucking space shuttle.
01:10:17.000Many more than I do, but most professional fighters or fighters who do it for a living aren't going to get to a fight in a bar because someone's going to take a bottle to their head, you're going to fuck up your hand, you're going to do something...
01:10:27.000That or they would, and they would clean out the whole bar and you have a real problem on your hands.
01:10:34.000A guy like Randy Couture and Dan Henderson.
01:10:36.000I don't know if this is a true story or not, but there's a legendary story about those two guys in college when they were both elite wrestlers just cleaning out a ball.
01:10:50.000But what I can tell you of what I know about Randy, I've been around that guy for, I saw his first fight in the UFC, and he fought Tony Halma, and then he fought this really promising kid, I forget his name, Kevin something or another, and he beat both of these guys, and I was like,
01:11:11.000He is one of the friendliest people you could ever be around.
01:11:16.000You would never imagine that Randy Couture would ever get into a street fight.
01:11:21.000If you're talking to that guy, whether it's in a bar or a Denny's or a bowling alley, he's a smiling, handshaking, comfortable, pat-you-on-the-back gentleman.
01:11:33.000You would never imagine that anybody would ever find themselves so cunty that they would be in a fistfight with Randy Couture.
01:11:39.000Did you ever hear that story about Tyson?
01:12:47.000But you saw in that fight why he wanted that fight.
01:12:51.000And why he wanted that fight is Mitch Blood Green, even though he had no business being in the ring technically with Tyson, he didn't get stopped.
01:14:57.000Speaking of Heinmo, we went to the The Arctic, this guy lived out in the middle of nowhere, and he lived with his wife out there, literally in the middle of nowhere.
01:15:08.000He was the most isolated person on earth, until they found, I don't know if you heard about this, this Russian family in Siberia.
01:15:16.000They were like Russian Orthodox, and during the Communist Revolution, they went up to this mountain that's nearly impossible to get to, and they lived in this little shack.
01:19:14.000We were talking about this before the podcast even started, about making the choice between booze and food.
01:19:22.000Like, if you could eat whatever the fuck you wanted and be healthy and live till you're fucking 90 and all that shit, but you couldn't drink.
01:19:29.000Or you could drink, but you can't eat shit.
01:19:31.000You gotta eat cardboard and fucking grape leaves.
01:19:39.000I truly believe that living without good food and living without, I mean, if you've got to survive, you know, if you're living in The Walking Dead and you've got to shoot deer and shit, that's all well and good.
01:19:52.000But we're talking about in this day and age.
01:19:56.000If you have to make a choice between I can eat my favorite shit or I can drink booze and have the added sort of crank that gives everything you like.
01:20:06.000Well, what I was going to say was that the idea of subsistence living is although frightening, that food is delicious.
01:20:14.000Eating deer over a campfire, that's a really yummy tasting food.
01:20:17.000If you're saying like shitty food, like cardboard tasting, bland food...
01:20:23.000That's a big part of the enjoyment of the day.
01:20:27.000In my opinion, a meal with my family, I think, is one of my favorite things in life.
01:20:32.000And that sounds like utter horseshit to single people.
01:20:36.000But the real idea is sitting down with your kids and having a laugh and having a meal.
01:20:41.000I think that whole process is very important.
01:20:46.000And nutrition is very important, but for me, the taste is very important as well.
01:20:52.000I think it's important to eat things that are delicious.
01:20:55.000It's a part of a pleasurable aspect of life.
01:20:59.000And so if I had to choose, honestly, between...
01:21:04.000Drinking booze and eating delicious food.
01:21:15.000The lessons of the dropping of the inhibition and the good aspects of alcohol, which are often overlooked by people who just can't handle alcohol.
01:21:25.000We were talking before the podcast started about not...
01:21:29.000There's a certain level of trust that you have where someone's willing to get drunk with you.
01:23:35.000I'm not even talking about a crazy fucking boozy fucking crazy time.
01:23:40.000The reason why I ask the question is because whenever I meet people I like and I respect, I like to ask them questions because I believe that's how you learn.
01:24:43.000We're out in the middle of fucking nowhere, and it's some crazy Cossack shit that's going down, and I'm like, fuck, this is like living in a book, and it's crazy.
01:24:52.000I literally had one of the best nights of my life.
01:24:54.000It was like living in a book from the 1800s.
01:24:57.000So I had one of the best times of my life.
01:24:59.000Then, you know, so for the longest time I'm like, I fucking, caviar is my favorite fucking food and this is the greatest thing in the world.
01:25:43.000Does it only taste good when you're drunk?
01:25:45.000Well, I think this is the whole question that I have.
01:25:48.000Is that like when you have a big fucking fat old steak with a good glass of red wine, how much of it is the fucking red wine and how much of it is the steak?
01:25:56.000When you have your linguine and clams with a nice fucking crisp fucking white wine, how much of it is...
01:26:24.000You know, I enjoyed the people and the craziness and the fucking vodka and the caviar and the fact that I hadn't had it before and everything went fucking apeshit and all that stuff.
01:26:44.000Yeah, and so when I was asking you the question, because we were talking about food, and you were saying, like, you know, if you have a bad back, you shouldn't eat the pasta.
01:26:52.000No, what I was saying is that this chiropractor that I was talking to over the weekend, she was explaining to me the influence of certain wheats and glutens.
01:27:22.000For me, weed is like, that's the one that really made a big difference.
01:27:26.000I think alcohol has played a good part in a lot of positive aspects of my life as far as joyful evenings and having fun with friends and telling them that you love them and hugging them and even whatever romantic altercations.
01:28:13.000For me actually, booze was my savior because I was hanging out with a lot of dudes who were doing some serious bad drugs.
01:28:21.000And my whole thing was, I don't want to be 60 years old So I always have this, my idyllic sort of retirement, which I'm trying to get to sooner rather than later now, is just like this sort of forgotten little cove.
01:29:36.000You know, he's sitting there and there's no stress and he's walking up the hill every day and he's drinking wine with his buddies and he's eating the fish from the bay and the fucking whatever.
01:29:47.000And I sit there and I say, you know, now I'm looking at this shit.
01:29:51.000So my idyllic retirement is basically I'm stealing this guy who killed cancer by living this euphoric life of I live on this little cove and I'm drinking my wine and I'm sitting out there and I'm just blissing out on reality.
01:30:02.000Now, that's why I didn't get hooked to heroin.
01:30:05.000That's why I didn't get hooked to fucking crack.
01:30:07.000That's why I didn't get hooked to all the shit that my boys got hooked to because I always thought to myself, if I fucking get hooked to this shit, I'm going to have to A, die, or B, fucking quit it.
01:30:16.000I'm never going to be able to sit on that fucking cove with my glass of fucking wine sitting out there and being this blissful old Buddha dude, right?
01:32:38.000By the way, this is a surprising thing.
01:32:40.000Well, they get into everything, but, you know, generally the end result is...
01:32:44.000Well, now it could be meth, but heroin...
01:32:46.000And the thing is, even in shitty sort of nice Canada, people end up on jonk or they start doing more and more serious crimes.
01:32:55.000And this is one of the reasons why my cove was my dream was because, you know, you have guys who are dying of heroin overdoses or guys who are going to prison for life or worse, getting killed.
01:33:07.000And, you know, these are 17, 18, 19-year-old kids and you're sitting there saying...
01:33:11.000That's the biggest tragedy is you never fucking live.
01:33:13.000You're a teenager, you think you've fucking lived your life.
01:33:15.000You haven't lived shit, you haven't done shit, you haven't seen shit.
01:33:17.000And one of the reasons why I say I'm going to go out and I'm going to see shit and I'm going to do all this shit, whatever, is because I didn't fucking die.
01:33:24.000But at a certain point you sit there and you say, look, you know and I know how hard life is.
01:33:36.000And also, we realize there's a lot of people who didn't make it.
01:33:40.000There's a lot of people who just, for one reason or another, they don't get to where you are.
01:33:44.000And so that's why now, anyways, one of the reasons why I like coming here and having these discussions with you is, you can actually say, look, I've come to these fucking realizations...
01:33:56.000And look, we're two guys who are saying, you know, we don't need to fucking fight.
01:34:01.000We probably had fucking 100 fights between us.
01:34:22.000I don't know how many Taekwondo fights, but there was a lot of them.
01:34:25.000What I'm trying to get at is, when you see fights in Iraq, those fights are different fights.
01:34:37.000Those fights are like they shoot you in the head fights.
01:34:40.000So what I'm trying to say is, you know, you want to get to more of an understanding, and this is when I go back to, like, I don't give a fuck what people think about me, I don't give a fuck about other shit, because when you see it, you sit there and say, on this hand, this motherfucker got shot, or this guy got into heroin,
01:34:57.000Now, to go back to this, this is very long-winded, but if you go back to it, what do I want to do?
01:35:04.000I want to sit in the cove with my family, your family, hanging out, have a drink, enjoy myself.
01:35:12.000I don't know how much food, although I'm a fat bastard, I don't know how much food is going to play into that, but I definitely want to be sitting there with that glass of wine, looking out at that cove and just going, I fucking made it.
01:35:24.000And that's why I don't judge anybody, because I'll tell you what, everyone's trying to get through the day to get to their goddamn cove.
01:36:54.000We're moving forward in a direction of progress.
01:36:57.000As much as people like to be cynical about the possibilities of the future, I think just where we are today in this country, despite the eroding civil liberties, all that, that's all good on paper, but the reality of the progression of information through the internet is we're taking the world to a different place right now.
01:37:19.000America and democracy was based on honesty and being critical and being allowed to be critical because you couldn't say, fuck the aristocrats, fuck the king and all that shit.
01:37:46.000But more importantly, the people who are in the positions of power, it must be reinforced that we are all living in this temporary state.
01:37:56.000And to make the most of your temporary state...
01:38:00.000You can enjoy the bounty of your work and the fruits of your labor and the overwhelming affluence that you get from having successfully figured out capitalism.
01:38:13.000But it's possible to do that in a way where you don't fuck people over and you promote freedom and love.
01:38:42.000He got elected against all odds and he did all this shit like underwater cabinet meetings and stuff to bring awareness to global warming because his country is sinking.
01:38:53.000And so he was going to buy land in Australia or Sri Lanka or India because he's not going to have a country anymore.
01:38:59.000And then they ousted him, and he has this flotilla going around the Maldives, which is actually like the size of Europe, but like islands.
01:39:06.000So he's on these fishing boats, and I went on these fishing boats with this guy.
01:39:11.000He's called the Mandela of the Maldives, because he's been in jail most of his life.
01:39:16.000I was hanging out with this dude, and one of the interesting things that this guy was doing is he was just saying, look, you have to take individual control.
01:39:27.000You have to say, look, unless we do it, unless we as a community fucking say no to this shit, it's going to continue.
01:39:37.000Because people don't want it to fucking change.
01:39:48.000So this is my second point is, you know, for the people, of the people, by the people.
01:39:52.000And you sit there and say, the people...
01:39:54.000This is the country, the first country, that was set up not for the aristocracy but for the people.
01:40:00.000And the thing is, I think that was forgotten because if you actually look at the people and what the people want and what the people can do, people want a good life, but they're willing to say, you know what, fuck, I don't want to fucking have, you know, all this garbage or whatever the fucking radiation is.
01:40:17.000I don't want to have this, you know, threat of nuclear war and all these things.
01:40:24.000If you look at, actually, if you talk to regular people, people are sane, people are good.
01:40:29.000Actually, when you were talking about it, people actually, if you hang out with your neighbors, people are inherently good.
01:42:02.000And by the way, that's what's keeping governments in check because mainstream media is not keeping fucking governments in check, which is their fucking job and they're not doing it.
01:42:11.000It's really interesting you just brought that up because I was reading on Vice about the Bradley Manning testimony that you guys have released.
01:43:04.000They have this weapon where they can, it's called a SMA-ME, and what happens is they shoot it into a building.
01:43:11.000And it does a heat blast which sort of takes all the oxygen out so it kills you right away.
01:43:17.000And then it has this massive heat blast and then it implodes the house.
01:43:21.000The problem is it's suspected that this is a thermobaric weapon that's made from depleted uranium so what happens is all that dust that goes out there becomes radioactive or chemically laden.
01:43:34.000And that possibly is responsible for the first Gulf War Syndrome that no one really sort of figured out exactly...
01:45:09.000Because if you were, you know, the Washington Post, even though they, you know, Deep Throat and Nixon and all this business, you know, because of your proximity to the Pentagon, you can't lose your fucking seat at the fucking White House table.
01:45:23.000Now we can sit here and say, okay, those thermobaric weapons...
01:45:26.000By the way, the story was broken by a Marine.
01:45:30.000Ross Caputi, who's a Marine who fought in Fallujah, who saw the thermobaric weapons, The Marine broke the story and said, by the way, this is what the fuck was going on.
01:45:40.000And I'm breaking this story because I saw what happened in Fallujah.
01:45:44.000This is a fucking Marine who's saying this.
01:45:46.000And you sit there and you say, because of the fucking movement of information, and by the way, we're on the cusp of this, me and you, as we sit here and have a few drinks, this is why, this is why you have to be honest.
01:45:58.000So to go back to the story, now I've realized it, if you look at WikiLeaks and you say, okay, Is WikiLeaks good or bad?
01:46:05.000I believe that the freedom of information is imperative to democracy.
01:46:10.000Unless you have transparency, unless you have accountancy, unless you have people who...
01:46:32.000This is the number one most important thing.
01:46:34.000There's no way they should have put that guy in solitary confinement...
01:46:38.000There's no way they should have isolated that guy from the rest of the world.
01:46:41.000There's no way they should have made that guy feel like he was going insane because he longed for the human touch and he knew that he was being punished for releasing information.
01:46:53.000That's inhuman and that's unnecessary with A government that doesn't have anything to prove.
01:47:00.000If a government is being honest and is not hiding anything, it doesn't need to take a guy like Bradley Manning and put him in some horrifying state of detention where he has no rights.
01:47:13.000There's no need for any just and loving government to treat any of its citizens like that.
01:47:42.000What I think some people who are scared of losing their position of dominance, what they're afraid of is they're afraid that people are going to understand what's going on and they're going to take over and they're going to lock them up and they're going to isolate them from...
01:48:00.000I've actually, you know, I said something in this podcast one time when I said, if you ever go to a war zone, I can't remember exactly, but I said, you cry, and then you puke, and then you freak the fuck out.
01:48:09.000And I had so many people respond to that, and they were, by and large, I would say about 98% ex-military.
01:48:18.000Because if you talk to the people who go to these things, they're like, oh fuck, I didn't know what the fuck I was getting into when I signed up for this fucking shit.
01:48:28.000And you look at that and you say, okay, before we go to war, before a government sends people to war, before Dick Cheney sends people to war, saying that Al-Qaeda is being sponsored by Iraq, or Iraq is having weapons of mass destruction and all that, All of which is completely made up.
01:48:44.000And by the way, made up by the government that the mainstream media then said, and by the way, everybody who had half a brain knew that fucking the secular state of the Ba'ath party was totally against Al-Qaeda.
01:48:57.000There's no way Al-Qaeda was doing anything, but 9-11 was the fucking, you know, the sort of carte blanche to go in.
01:50:19.000We're sitting here debating, well, my cove with my red wine, or would you have a steak, or would you have a glass of booze?
01:50:26.000These fucking kids, they're never going to be normal again.
01:50:29.000And you sit there, and by the way, I'm not saying you can't police the world, and I'm not saying that there aren't bad people out there that have to be bucked out.
01:50:39.000But I am saying, if you do that, you better fucking be cognizant of the fact that when you're sending our best and our brightest and our fucking nicest fucking kids out there, that they're going to be coming home with no legs and no arms and shit out of their fucking bag.
01:50:55.000Unless we realize that, then we should never go to fucking war.
01:51:01.000Having seen that is a perspective that very few people...
01:51:06.000A lot of people in the military know it.
01:51:08.000And people in the military are coming back and it fucks them up so much, they cannot re-enter into fucking society.
01:51:14.000Because when you see that shit, it fucks your fucking wiring up.
01:51:18.000I think we're still operating under this...
01:51:53.000I mean, this guy, his friend was trying to explain to me the amount of times this kid had been pronounced dead and brought back to life and that it was unbelievable and the amount of courage that he had shown.
01:53:04.000But the whole thing is, you know what?
01:53:08.000I don't want to send our heroes, or I don't think anyone in the world should send their heroes to fight a war that isn't philosophically correct, that isn't backable.
01:53:45.000And I'm going to tell you one thing about this podcast, is whenever I say, you know what, I fucking saw that shit and it was bad, the response I get from people who have been there, they're like, exactly, exactly, exactly.
01:54:06.000And the people who make the decisions to go to war are not the people that ever have to go fight those fucking wars.
01:54:12.000Those are the only people that are going to understand that reality.
01:54:16.000That reality is so extreme that it can be sort of justified and glamorized and glossed over in a fictional sense by people who have never experienced it under the threat of their own life expiring.
01:54:30.000And that's the reality that those people have experienced, that No one who can make their decision from an air-conditioned room with a custom-designed suit should ever be allowed to do.
01:54:42.000The only people that are going to understand that reality are the people that have experienced that reality.
01:54:48.000And as a whole, as an organism that respects itself and wants itself to evolve, we should all collectively get together and say, this is completely unnecessary.
01:55:19.000And if there is a war, the people who are making that decision have to understand and have to talk to the people who have previously been there.
01:55:29.000Because if you talk to anybody who's gone to Vietnam, if you talk to anyone who went to fucking Korea during the Korean War, if you talk to anybody from World War II, World War I, Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, anywhere, they'll say,
01:56:42.000You're the dominant ruler of your situation, but you shouldn't be because you would be way happier if you weren't.
01:56:47.000You'd be way happier if you let all those people go.
01:56:50.000You'd be way happier if you released all those political prisoners and slaves and whatever the fuck you've got going on there with your wacky laws and the people that were in prison because they didn't cry long enough after your dad died.
01:57:02.000If everybody was let out and everybody said, alright, settle the fuck down.
01:57:12.000And the dominant person, the dominant ideas, the most accepted ideology will pretty much always rise to the top.
01:57:20.000And the exceptional people that can influence the groups, as long as they're doing it in an ethical way, and as long as they're truly trying to advance their culture, good.
01:57:30.000But they all need to have a certain amount of...
01:57:35.000Of reality in their own head and a certain amount of humility in their own head and a certain amount of experiences with dark situations or bad moments in life or understanding of failure or psychedelic experiences or whatever the fuck it is.
01:57:53.000I would say for the first time, and maybe I'm being naive, but I would say for the first time in history, because of the internet and the freedom of movement of information, that you have this young population,
01:58:12.000Huge, massive, global, young population that most obviously is causing change in Arab Spring.
01:58:20.000In these countries where Gaddafi was never going to fucking leave.
01:59:18.000Because I don't think America, if you look at right now what's happening in Congress, I think America's political system, the America, the political system in America, is broken.
01:59:28.000Because you have Congress just fighting each other over things that are detrimental to what's going on.
02:01:22.000Which one of those got you the most hard?
02:01:26.000No, but I gotta tell you what happened.
02:01:28.000So I was on the Seabob thing, and then eventually, because the Seabob fucking ran out of batteries, I was holding on to the side of the boat with my thing, you know, snorkel and my mask.
02:01:39.000And that's when all the shitting and the pissing and the cumming happened.
02:08:27.000What's going on here is that they realize that evolution has blessed them with the ability to move through their waters as if they were flying through the fucking sky like superheroes!
02:08:40.000They don't have to breathe for minutes at a time.
02:08:43.000They can always get to the surface unless some crafty Japanese dudes have manufactured some sort of a netting that traps them in the water.
02:08:52.000I'd just like to say things have gotten real weird all of a sudden.
02:11:07.000You were talking about a strip steak, and you were saying, this fucking steak, they take it out of the whole cow, and this is the fucking thing, and you put it on the goddamn barbecue and whatever.
02:11:17.000And I was sitting there, and I was like...
02:11:19.000Why the fuck isn't he talking about a porterhouse?
02:11:22.000Because the porterhouse has the strip and the filet.
02:14:48.000Is it coming from the masses of humanity who, although imperfect at the moment, might be trying harder to work shit out?
02:14:57.000Or is it from this sort of reluctant...
02:15:02.000Agreement that the earth is much more powerful than the culture at this point in time.
02:15:07.000It's better to just isolate yourself from all these idiots who haven't gotten the information yet and get your own water from a hole in the ground.
02:15:13.000I think, you know, again, that may be the quintessential question of the modern age.
02:15:21.000Because you're in a guy, you live in Manhattan, you have children, so you're on that next level of sensitivity.
02:15:27.000But also, I spend the majority of my time out there in the shit...
02:15:31.000And I will tell you this, when you actually have something, like for example, like you said, if you kill a deer and you cook that on an open fire, nothing tastes better than that.
02:16:04.000So, to be honest, and I'm not necessarily proud of this, what I love about New York City is I kind of feel like Nero as Rome is burning because I believe New York City is the greatest city in the world.
02:16:16.000I believe it's the capital of the world culturally and economically and politically, for that matter.
02:16:22.000And, you know, when you go out in New York City, It has the best restaurants in the world.
02:16:28.000It has the best nightlife in the world.
02:16:30.000I believe it has the best everything in the world.
02:16:38.000Well, it does, and so you can fuck off.
02:16:40.000But what I will say is when you go out in New York City, right now, today, and it might be Shanghai in 10 years or whatever, but today, New York is the global capital.
02:16:53.000And you can go out in New York City and you can, like me, come as a penniless immigrant and become a fucking rich motherfucker who can go out and have the greatest food.
02:17:02.000And by the way, that food can be like a dollar.
02:17:05.000Spring roll at the Vietnamese Bice or the best steak at Peter Luger's or whatever the fuck it is.
02:17:41.000I feel the happiest grilling meat over a grill.
02:17:44.000You've got to bring Manhattan to the forest.
02:17:47.000But what I will tell you is, I don't believe that the sort of Roman bacchanalian craziness that is New York today is going to be around that much longer.
02:18:25.000It's been three times during this podcast that the MagSafe electrical cord connecting to my laptop has dropped off through my flailing hands.
02:19:28.000A transcendental meditation point where he understands the point of view that he is in right now does not represent where he will be in infinity.
02:19:42.000If he is in fact a soul and if a soul transgresses from one point in history to another Over and over and over until you get it right.
02:19:59.000Now this sounds like hippie bullshit, but do you understand that Helio Gracie believed in this?
02:20:04.000Helio Gracie said something once, and if you don't know who he is, his real name isn't Helio Gracie.
02:20:10.000I say that for all you white people who don't understand how Brazilian people pronounce things.
02:20:30.000He said something once, and he's the guy who trained Hickson Gracie and Hoist Gracie, the original winner of the UFC 1 and the UFC 2. I mean, Hoist Gracie changed the entire face of martial arts.
02:20:46.000Wasn't he the dude who also said, I'll take on all comers, all weight classes...
02:20:49.000And we'll pay 10 or 100 grand or whatever.
02:21:20.000He trained some of the most influential martial artists in the history of the world.
02:21:25.000One of the things he said is that you live this life and if you make even one mistake and you live this life incorrectly, you will return and you will do it all over again until you get it right.
02:23:27.000One of the most beautiful things about what Elio said, what Elio Gracie said, when he said that he would...
02:23:36.000Like, that he literally had sort of figured out a way to test who you are and test what you could figure out and test what you could do.
02:23:48.000And he truly believed in these most extreme of circumstances, literally fighting these much larger, much stronger men and letting them break his arms.
02:24:00.000He believed that if you live this life, That you must do it correctly.
02:24:06.000And if you did anything wrong, anything contrary to your spirit or contrary to the soul or the collective idea of humanity as a whole being of the utmost importance,
02:24:22.000so you, the one who is tested, must represent humanity.
02:26:02.000And he came back and he started doing MMA. He started fighting MMA. And he hooked up with this guy, one of the Gracies, and taught him Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, of which he was, I believe, five-time world champion, the Gracie.
02:27:15.000Anyway, but I gotta say this, Matt Ruskin, the Marine fought in Iraq, came back, started fighting with the Gracies, took me down there, showed me what the fuck was going on, And I've got to say, you know, I learned the story of the Gracies from the Gracies when I was down there.
02:27:31.000And that story of, you know, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and him sort of taking on all comers with the bounty, you know, like if you can beat me.
02:27:43.000When I heard it was a million bucks, but I think it was actually more like a hundred grand.
02:29:37.000He lost, but I think it was more of a case of a...
02:29:42.000When a guy immediately gets thrown into the UFC, there's a thing that happens called an adrenaline dump where you get in front of the big cameras and you think about the Hoist-Gracy fights of 1993 and you panic.
02:29:58.000It's like the overwhelming input of the moment is too much.
02:33:13.000And adopting the name Gracie almost makes people think like, oh, well this guy is trying to get a little extra attention for no reason.
02:33:23.000The world championships are the world championships.
02:33:25.000You either mount a guy, you take his back, you tap him.
02:33:29.000Whatever you do, you either do or you don't do.
02:33:32.000And it doesn't matter if your name is Marcelo Garcia, who's unbelievably respected.
02:33:37.000I mean, Marcel Garcia is the top of the pyramid when it comes to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in the world today in 2013. Or Gracie, it doesn't matter.
02:33:46.000So, whatever his name was, what was his real name?
02:33:50.000I think the family name was Vieira or Samoes, one of the two.
02:33:54.000Matt, how many times have you been high in your life?
02:34:24.000But there was a few guys that did the Gracie thing, where they used the word Gracie.
02:34:28.000What I'm going to say is, Daniel Gracie, whatever you want to call him, what I'm going to say is, he's a bad motherfucker, but by the way, he took us around Brazil, he took us to the Valetudo gyms, he took us to the gyms, he took us with Matt, and I got to say, it was fucking, I got to say,
02:34:44.000you see a different level of shit down there than you will see anywhere else.
02:35:18.000We take a left turn down the street and I mean, it was just wall-to-wall 14-year-olds, 15-year-olds with, like, military-grade weapons.
02:35:30.000I mean, you've got to picture the look.
02:35:32.000It was, like, board shorts, flip-flops, you know, like a 1989 Luther Campbell, like, gold rope chain with a medallion, you know, side-to-side mount gold teeth, fucking, you know, collapsible stock M4 with an ACOG grenade launcher,
02:36:42.000I was filling some dead space where we're trying to recalibrate our reality due to your circumstances and your story being paradigm shifting.
02:37:41.000By the way, I want to let everybody know.
02:37:43.000There's no judgment involved in that whatsoever.
02:37:45.000I completely understand why someone who especially was in a situation where they were a very talented guy and they were trying to maximize the The sort of the spread of their name as far as possible.
02:37:59.000And the word Gracie, because of Hoyce and because of Horian and what they accomplished in UFC 1, it was one of the most important moments in the history of martial arts.
02:38:16.000For people who don't know the history of it or weren't there when it's happening as martial artists, it was one of the most important moments ever.
02:38:25.000It's like all of a sudden we found out what really works, right?
02:40:39.000Listen, what's important, Matt, is you understand that I respect and adore Daniel Gracie and anybody that gets in there.
02:40:47.000I just think that if I could have been there when Henzo and all those other guys were trying to talk Daniel into using the last name Gracie...
02:47:08.000Because you're not going to come with that shit if you live in a fucking cubicle and you're panicking, taking Adderall all day to get through your workload.
02:47:17.000I will fight Hoist Gracie if I can have a pair of those shoes.
02:48:52.000As the fucking bomb goes off, I'm going to be looking good!
02:48:55.000For anyone right now collecting their thoughts and gathering their finances on their way to the bank, on their way to financing their very first yoga studio, I want you to know, I know this podcast doesn't represent how you feel right now.
02:49:16.000When you're in that train and you're thinking to yourself as you make the connection to the bus on your way to work, I don't want to be that guy!
02:49:26.000I don't want to be out of control, worrying about asteroids with intestinal viruses that look like fucking aliens grown inside my shit tract!
02:50:55.000Between Fear Factor and your UFC shit and all your other shit, but the fucking podcast that you do, and by the way, I'm sitting here in a room with 700 cameras that Red Band has set up.
02:51:05.000I'm sitting here doing podcasts with you.
02:51:08.000The fact that you do these podcasts and you finance these podcasts and you do these podcasts, I've got to say, I fucking hand it to you, my friend.
02:52:07.000That's when you're wrong, sir, because that fear factor money comes at a price.
02:52:11.000It's a mental mortgage I'm paying off.
02:52:15.000Us talking about this shit is because you fucking paid for this fucking room with all the cameras and the fucking microphones and all the shit.
02:52:50.000You're absolutely allowed to, but I have to tell you that in this particular situation, since we're at the Ice House, this was 99% Brian's work.
02:52:59.000Which I give him fucking straight up kudos.
02:53:01.000Well, I'm trying to fucking buy fucking footwear off him.
02:53:35.000Other than that, it's all Brian's creation.
02:53:37.000But you don't have to do these podcasts, and the fact that you do these podcasts, the fact that you have Anthony Bourdain, and the fact that you have me, the fact that you have all these people on, that is something special.
02:53:47.000And I know we always get to this at the end of it, but I've got to say, what you're doing with Brian and with yourself, come on now.
02:53:55.000At least accept the fact that that's an important fucking motherfucking thing.
02:53:58.000And by the way, if you don't accept it, I will do something bad with this thing.
02:54:02.000Listen, I have a problem, I got a t-shirt on, I got my keys and my knuckles, and I'm ready to fucking party.
02:54:10.000I'm telling you, you're asking me to take the Kool-Aid and to fucking brush my teeth with it, but not swallow it.
02:54:20.000Even though my gums have lacerations on them that would allow the sacred liquid from the Kool-Aid to get into my bloodstream, I'm not willing.
02:56:43.000What you're trying to do is what any cool person tries to do, is you're trying to spread the love as far as possible to as many people as possible.
02:56:51.000The people that listen to this fucking podcast...
02:56:54.000Are the people that I give a shit about.
02:56:58.000Well, there's people that you give a shit about that don't listen to this because they don't know about it.
02:57:01.000But the reality is that the ethic of what Brian is trying to put forth and what I am, and unquestionably, without a shadow of a doubt in my heart, what you're trying to put forward...
02:57:15.000It is what resonates with a lot of the people that are sort of waking up in the middle of history and looking at this crazy world that is handicapped and sidetracked and hobbled by these ancient traditions that were written back when people couldn't even fly fucking planes and didn't even have printed type and there was no internet and unfortunately this Distribution of information is far more
02:57:46.000swift than the absorption of it amongst the people and the altercation or the changing of the culture because of that information.
02:57:54.000And you're at the front of the line of that.
02:57:55.000Let me tell you, you're in the front of the line.