In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast, the boys talk about the new HTC One X, the new Samsung Galaxy S4, and much, much more. Also, we talk about a lot of other stuff.
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00:04:31.000If you don't use as many minutes as you thought you would, they credit you on your next bill and drop you down to the next level.
00:04:39.000I mean, what fucking company does that?
00:06:55.000So Psycho over here gets PepsiSpice.com and starts printing this fucking blog about how he's been drinking Pepsi Spice and his health is eroding rapidly and he's only drinking Pepsi Spice.
00:07:56.000Well, I think it's probably a proven thing, though.
00:07:59.000It's probably got a very specific effect.
00:08:01.000I mean, I don't know what it is, but I bet the Mushroom and Coke Club, like the people that are really down with that shit, they'll probably tell you you're out of your mind.
00:10:15.000Started out, it was really just supplements, but what we're trying to do is become like a human performance website.
00:10:21.000We're trying to sell you shit that's good for your body, whether it's good athletically or good in terms of a supplement or a mood enhancer or a good source of hemp protein or walnut, almond, cashew butter.
00:10:33.000We're just trying to sell you cool shit.
00:10:35.000And we even have Dave Asprey's bulletproof coffee.
00:12:48.000I think, too, that when people talk about wanting to get the benefits of yoga and stuff like that, like you were the first one that I ever heard talk about like all those poses leading to a place of kind of like a supernatural experience with yourself and all that kind of thing, what yogis were originally trying to do.
00:13:04.000And that's a lot of discipline to do that, you know, but like to get in a and and like to have the benefits of like a massage, of real deep relaxation, of all that stuff come and just getting into a tank.
00:13:15.000Like, and that's that's there, you know, that's available.
00:13:18.000Yeah, you can have and you don't have to be good at anything, you can just lay there.
00:13:47.000But if you're really attacking life in a way, like, you're after stuff, you're using your intellect, you're using your artistic side, you're really going into things full-fledged, and you need a relaxation.
00:14:31.000If you can just ignore, just learn how to stay still, stop moving, ignore the fact that you're in the tank, accept the fact that you're in the tank, and just be.
00:15:24.000The first time in my life, I can remember when I realized that I didn't always have to get mad when something happened, that I could keep my shit together.
00:16:38.000But yeah, there's something that happens when you do that and they treat you different.
00:16:42.000Yeah, it's possible to turn a situation around with the right attitude.
00:16:46.000It's like there's a lot of people that we all know that always got into trouble and you always had to look back and go, could that motherfucker have avoided that trouble?
00:16:54.000Like did that shit really have to go down?
00:16:56.000And they're like, man, if you would have done the same thing, if you were in that situation.
00:16:59.000And then you go, I don't know if I would have.
00:17:12.000Until you emptied out everything else and you're like, oh, this is another occurrence.
00:17:15.000What I think of it all the time is in myself, it's not just how I reflect to the world, but like, how do I feel about it?
00:17:21.000Like, if somebody, like somebody at my gym, they didn't show up for a class one morning and then there's no classes and people are there and it's like a freak out, you know?
00:17:31.000But like, and somebody's like, God, you reacted.
00:17:34.000You were just, you're like, okay, well, I know that it's got to be gutting for you.
00:18:25.000This is a perfect example of, it's like jiu-jitsu.
00:18:29.000I feel like jiu-jitsu is like, I'm going to dig you some holes and I'm going to offer you a bunch of bad choices and you're going to have to go in one of my holes.
00:18:37.000And so the same thing, as long as everybody's clear about this is an eventuality that will happen if you choose door A. Right.
00:19:59.000And so, this big fuck is standing in front of Tate, and there was a lot of talking, but nothing, it looked like nothing was going to happen.
00:20:06.000And the guy started to back away, and Eddie Bravo goes, well, you're the one just standing there talking shit.
00:31:07.000When you drive that fast, you have to have that part of your brain turned on because its reaction time is 10 times faster than you can think about it.
00:31:12.000Imagine if every time you wanted to put the brake on, you had to go, I guess I'll think about whether I should put the brake on.
00:31:17.000I guess I'll think and maybe I'll do some math to figure out how much time I've got.
00:31:20.000So you're driving using your nervous system, not using your conscious brain.
00:31:23.000So you're reacting with your nervous system there.
00:32:17.000I think that's the thing, though, is having a spiritual consciousness like that where I go, regardless of my external conditions, I'm going to be unchanged inside.
00:32:26.000Like that's the goal, but you have to get conscious to that.
00:32:30.000If you're not a thinking person, your default is rage, perhaps.
00:32:33.000But there's an iPhone app for that now.
00:33:15.000That's a beautiful thing because, I mean, like a heightened accountability because so often we go, oh, well, I'm powerless over what I eat or I feel like they're just my feelings.
00:33:24.000But to really get super accountable for like, this is my life.
00:33:27.000These are my emotional and I can change all that.
00:33:30.000And knowing they happen, they happen before you can think about them.
00:33:33.000And it doesn't matter what they are because they're not really you.
00:33:36.000They're just like an automated defense system.
00:33:37.000It completely makes sense about driving, putting you in that heightened state.
00:33:56.000Whatever you're going to do after that with it, you can either say, okay, I'm going to go with this thought and coax it up into a huge problem or whatever.
00:34:04.000Yeah, it's really important evaluation of your situation, especially thinking about it that way.
00:34:10.000Thinking about the fact that you're on a very sort of animalistic, high-rev state because you're driving a car.
00:35:21.000You don't know who you're dealing with.
00:35:22.000That's the thing about being a woman, too.
00:35:23.000You don't know who's going to follow you home.
00:35:25.000Give the wrong guy the finger and watch life get terrified.
00:35:29.000It's not just that, but when you're super aggressively douchey driving that way, like you could pick the wrong guy and you don't want that person in your life ever.
00:35:37.000And all of a sudden now they're in your life in a very intense way.
00:36:55.000If you're a fucking healthy male, life can be challenging.
00:36:59.000If you're a healthy testosterone-filmed male and you don't have a release, if you don't have something that lets you burn off energy, well, guess what?
00:37:27.000I think there needs to be a rite of passage for men.
00:37:30.000And it should be something that you, I mean, whether it's a physical accomplishment or a mental accomplishment, it's almost like graduating, like graduating from high school.
00:37:39.000If you graduated from high school, I know, well, at least the guy graduated from high school.
00:38:41.000Like, it was a church-based Boy Scouts, too, most of it.
00:38:44.000And so I don't know if I was just molested while being a Boy Scout, and that's why I don't remember, because I should remember more from being a Boy Scout.
00:38:53.000You were one day, you were like masturbating or something, and then you had this flash in front of your face of a priest Cock right before it went in your mouth.
00:40:13.000It should be a responsibility to know.
00:40:15.000Like, that's why I'm so a fan of Dave's or Rob Wolfe or Marxisten or all those guys.
00:40:20.000It's like it's a responsibility to know how to take care of your body and to know how this thing operates and all that and what it's capable of.
00:40:27.000And also, I think as a man, it's your responsibility to take care of weaker people or women or whatever.
00:41:17.000But the people who listen to your show, I don't get the impression there's a lot of that going on.
00:41:21.000There's some people that do, I'm sure.
00:41:24.000It takes all kinds of people in all kinds of different, you know, some people absorb some things and some people just parts about their life they just don't want to change or they haven't mustered up the urge to change it yet.
00:41:35.000You know, but there's also a lot of people that listen to this podcast where I've met and they're like, I lost 100 pounds.
00:42:17.000But people that get off of Paxil, Zolof, shit like that, that are like, I just feel more even all the time now that I eat a high level of fats all the time in my system or whatever.
00:42:26.000It's like, that's when people don't think that that's the heaviest drug that you're taking, most, I mean, a couple people here excluded perhaps, but like food is maybe the number one heaviest drug that anybody takes in the world.
00:42:39.000And we do it all the time without thinking about it.
00:42:41.000And I would just have you consider that if you think about it just a little bit, you can have a drastically different experience with life.
00:43:58.000My chiropractor, a friend actually, who's a chiropractor, told me that one of the reasons why people get inflammation as far as like discs and things like that.
00:44:08.000She's like, we've been able to help people a lot just by cutting wheat out of their diet.
00:46:42.000It's the same thing that like Aspergillus and Candida, that mold that gives you yeast infections, those things also make oxalic acids one of their ways of protecting their turf.
00:46:50.000So wheat has something like that in it too, where it attacks your bowels as you're digesting it.
00:46:54.000It's a different chemical in wheat, but it's the same idea.
00:46:56.000Like most starch sources and a lot of like soft green vegetables have a defense mechanism.
00:47:04.000So in Volvidenia, what they believe, and this is a sort of a mystery illness, but what they believe, at least in one group of researchers, is that this stuff, the acid form of oxalic acid, gets into the body and it goes into tissues, including muscles and your GI system and things like that.
00:47:21.000It complexes with calcium and then it forms little crystals, kind of like gout does.
00:47:58.000It has like bigger, broader leaves that are less ridged, and it looks kind of like you'd imagine dinosaur skin would look instead of like the real frilly stuff.
00:49:56.000If you're going to do it regularly, boil it and do calcium loading, which is a term that I just finally made up because there's two studies.
00:50:05.000One, they actually give calcium tablets to people when they eat kale and 97% less oxalic acid goes into the system because it forms calcium oxalate in the gut and you poop it out instead of getting it in your kidneys or getting it somewhere else in your body.
00:50:18.000Or there's another study that says mineral water full of minerals.
00:50:24.000So what I'm suggesting is in the blender, steam the stuff, add butter, add MCT oil to it, add your hemp force protein, any kind of protein you want.
00:55:21.000It looks just like normal celery, but when bugs and stuff eat it, it makes so many nitrates that when you bite it, it's almost like a poison ivy.
00:55:41.000Celery is so high in nitrite, not nitrate, that when they powder the celery and they put that in the bacon, they're doing the same thing as putting nitrate in there.
00:55:48.000They just don't have to tell you it's nitrate.
00:56:00.000Is there a difference in how it's bioabsorbent?
00:56:02.000There's a slight difference, but the real difference is they're only bad for you if you have the bacteria in your gut that make them bad for you.
00:56:08.000So bad bacteria in your gut make nitrosamines, which mess you up.
00:56:11.000But you can make nitrosamines out of the gut too.
00:56:13.000Like I cure my own bacon, but I block nitrosamine formation when I do it that way.
00:56:17.000If I was a girl, I would never talk to you.
00:56:19.000If you're talking to a guy, he's like, I cure my own bacon.
00:57:14.000The Atkins diet, he just said eat less carbs, but he didn't differentiate between types of fat, and he let you eat way too much protein because too much protein is inflammatory, too.
00:57:24.000So you got people on the Atkins diet, they lose half their weight and they get stuck, and the second half won't come off.
00:57:29.000It took me another three or four years to get the other 50 off because I didn't understand moderate protein, ketosis from eating not too many carbs and a ton of the right kind of fat.
00:58:02.000When you're overtraining, one of the biggest things that you can find, like if you're doing two or three days, is that you'll wake up with your heart racing or something.
00:58:07.000If you do that, fucking, you got to pump the brakes.
00:58:48.000But with the coaching clients I've got, the women, they tend to, if they go in ketosis and stay there, they start not dreaming and they get more stressed and like their sleep quality goes down.
00:58:57.000And I did like three months of like one serving of vegetables a day.
00:59:00.000The rest was mostly fat and some meat and eggs and stuff like that.
01:00:11.000Cheat days actually can be good for you.
01:00:13.000As long as you're cheating with foods that aren't full of toxins, like the Tim Ferris style cheat day where you just eat like Snickers bars and whatever.
01:00:20.000And what happens is it takes you four or five days to recover from the cheat day before, because we're not talking about just like losing a little bit of weight.
01:00:26.000We're talking about like rocking everything.
01:00:27.000And if you want your brain to work, you want to not have road range and not be a dick when you don't want to be a dick, then I don't think the cheat day with glue.
01:00:34.000You just are cutting all the fun out of fucking cheat days.
01:00:37.000How much good cheat did you just eliminate right there?
01:00:39.000You know what's cool though is the tighter that my diet gets, then the better like what I'm willing to do.
01:00:44.000It's like before pizza used to be a cheat day, then now it's like sweet potato fries are.
01:00:48.000And where that was a norm, it's like you get dialed in better and you're just like, I just, this is where I want, how good do I want to feel?
01:00:53.000And then you go, fuck, I don't feel good.
01:00:55.000I just had a fighter that went and he cut a bunch of weight and then he does cake and all like, I don't ever want to sacrifice how I feel to feel like this.
01:06:06.000If you're vegan and you're doing it for the environment, you got to understand that hooved animals like cows and sheep are required for soil to not turn into desert.
01:06:14.000Because if they don't break up the top of the soil and poop on it, then the soil dies and it forms a crust of algae and water can't go into the soil.
01:06:21.000So we've had desertification problems like the Great Dust Bowl and all that stuff that happened around the Depression happened because we killed all the buffalo.
01:06:28.000So there's a need for us to have grass-fed cows roaming around.
01:06:32.000So even after grass-fed would suck a dick trying to drive from New York to California and this fucking million buffalo making their way across the plains.
01:09:35.000Like, they don't want the, and I don't know why if they only live eight months, probably there and they want a lot more around, but it's bad.
01:09:42.000Well, there's a big problem with toxoplasma in third world countries because there's so many people.
01:11:47.000You want to basically do everything you can to turn down inflammation.
01:11:50.000So what I figured out is if you brew your coffee the way you're brewing it with a French press, that preserves the coffee oils.
01:11:56.000And the coffee oils contain diterpenes.
01:11:58.000They're called calfestrol and cowahol.
01:12:00.000And what these things do is they go into the brain and they turn off certain inflammation pathways.
01:12:04.000This is true of like any kind of coffee has that.
01:12:06.000So if you take my coffee, which has no mycotoxins and no histamines in it because of the way it's processed, the bulletproof process, and then you brew it right the way you just did before the show in the French press, then what you're getting is these coffee oils that are kind of precious.
01:12:20.000They're one of the things that make coffee into a legitimate superfood.
01:12:23.000And then you mix it with these other fats and they get into the body well.
01:12:26.000One of the other fats you're getting from bulletproof coffee is butyric acid in that butter.
01:12:33.000Those things actually heal the gut, which is kind of cool.
01:12:36.000There's only two ways you can get them.
01:12:37.000If you're lucky and you have the right bacteria growing in your gut, which a lot of people don't, you may make those in your gut.
01:12:43.000But the other place they come from is from dairy.
01:12:45.000So you're getting something that turns off inflammation in the brain, which is what short-chain fatty acids do, and it heals your gut, which is kind of cool.
01:12:54.000Now, people were skeptical about your claims that it's mycotoxins, that it's in coffee, that is what's causing discomfort and the crash and all that stuff.
01:14:31.000What I do know is if you say your stuff contains no mycotoxins or less mycotoxins, you should test the other stuff and say what it contains so you can show the difference.
01:14:42.000I don't think you should even try to say that they have it until you do that.
01:14:47.000If a university has done the study and they've done a study with like thousands of samples all over the place or hundreds of samples depending on which study and they've done them for 20 years, I'm just citing those studies because I don't have enough money to conduct all those studies.
01:15:16.000We know 50% of the bugs that bite coffee cherries have toxic mold spores on their feet and that that's how the toxic molds enter the chain.
01:15:25.000This means if you pick the right coffee and you have someone who's trained at picking unblemished coffee, that that coffee has not been inoculated with the bad stuff.
01:15:33.000But then if you're doing like an Indonesian or an African process, you literally pick all the coffee, including the stuff that has bird bites and insect bites and everything else that are ways for this mold to get in there, you throw it on a tarp and you let it sit there.
01:15:47.000It sits there for a while until it basically spoils and the outside dries up, and then you rinse it off, dry it again, and ship it off.
01:15:53.000The other way they do it is they put it in a big bucket or a big barrel.
01:17:09.000So when coffee people who have the most expensive, high-tech, amazing roasters, and they spent their life studying coffee, and they're getting beans that came from this great estate, they put them in.
01:17:18.000And well, I'm sorry, if those things had histamine or they had mycotoxin or ocrotoxin or aflatoxin in it, then what's going to come out of that roaster?
01:17:25.000It might taste and smell wonderful, but you're not going to be at optimal human performance when it's done.
01:17:29.000So how did you find the right way to do this?
01:17:32.000And how did you go about establishing a business?
01:17:34.000And do you buy your beans roasted from a company that you know handles it?
01:17:39.000How do you know if a bug just doesn't land on something, though?
01:17:42.000It's okay if a bug lands on it because I allow no fermentation.
01:19:01.000But I had to give up coffee because I kept drinking it, and I would go up and I'd crash, and I'd go up and I'd crash, and I'd get sore joints.
01:19:07.000And it turns out I had stacky botris, like the really bad toxic mold living in my house, and it sensitized my immune system to toxic molds.
01:19:13.000And I've done all the lab work, and I can show you.
01:19:15.000The really bad, toxic suit, like that black mold where they have to defumigate your whole house?
01:19:19.000Yeah, guys with astronaut suits come in and that kind of thing.
01:19:24.000Like, if you have water damage in your house and you don't hire guys and astronaut suits to come in and test it and clean it, like you could, you could die.
01:19:47.000Like, you give me moldy coffee, I'll tell you within 10 minutes if there was mold in there because it affects, actually, my forehead swells up.
01:19:52.000You'll see like a ridge, like a Klingon ridge right here.
01:21:51.000There's a whole supply chain problem between when coffee's picked and then how it's packed and how it's moved into the U.S. And so my roaster is in the Pacific Northwest.
01:22:00.000So they do my roasting for me and then I ship straight from there.
01:22:04.000It's a moldy ass place, the Pacific Northwest.
01:22:06.000It seems like the worst place to get rid of mold.
01:23:56.000So I know you get fucked with a lot of these ideas.
01:24:00.000People claim that they're unsubstantiated and there's no funny.
01:24:04.000Why does the European Union have an eight parts per million ocrotoxin and the U.S. doesn't?
01:24:10.000Well, there's other things that I've read that show that there's absolutely an issue with mycotoxins and all sorts of food and apples, apparently.
01:24:19.000Catuline is what grows in apples or the toxin that comes in apples.
01:24:21.000And when you hear stories about Tom Likas'house getting...
01:24:29.000Fungus is a real issue in all sorts of different things, isn't it?
01:24:32.000It's actually really scary because our bodies work pretty well.
01:24:35.000If you eat something that's really spoiled, you'll throw up and you'll get sick and then you'll recover.
01:24:40.000And if you were growing your own food or you were a caveman, then okay, fine.
01:24:44.000The next day you ate meat that wasn't spoiled or whatever it was and you just go on with life.
01:24:48.000But when we have big food involved, they're like, oh, here's the safe limit of these toxins.
01:24:53.000So let's dump a truck full of tomatoes into the tomato processing plant.
01:24:56.000And some of them are spoiled and moldy and some aren't.
01:24:58.000But it's okay because we're at this low acceptable limit.
01:25:01.000But our bodies don't like a low acceptable limit because it's like a chronic background noise of inflammation that keeps the body inflamed.
01:25:08.000It's not enough to make you sick, to make you throw up, but it might be enough to make you tired, to make you flip the guy off in traffic in front of you to feel agitated and aggressive.
01:25:15.000So what I found, trust me, I don't like this.
01:25:18.000I would love to just go to McDonald's and get like really healthy food that makes me feel good that doesn't do that.
01:25:23.000But I found if I wanted to be bulletproof, I wanted to be at that point where my brain worked and I had all the focus and all the energy I wanted and I didn't get fat like I used to be when I weighed 300 pounds.
01:25:32.000You must have surely changed other things as well, though.
01:27:47.000This fucking guy is on a plane probably as much as you, but he posts pictures of himself at the weight room at 6.30 in the morning or at 3.30 in the morning.
01:27:54.000Oh yeah, he's in the middle of the day.
01:30:34.000I was doing, I invented bulletproof intermittent fasting during that time, which is when you do bulletproof coffee during an intermittent fast.
01:30:41.000I'm sorry, but you could be a hilarious Saturday Night Live sketch.
01:30:43.000If you get any more famous, you're in trouble because they're going to do a sketch where everything...
01:30:53.000You know, this is my bulletproof secretary.
01:30:55.000Let's see if your boots are proof, wife.
01:38:52.000All our seeds everywhere are subjugated.
01:38:54.000So even as local farmers in America, you're going to be at the mercy.
01:38:59.000You're going to be growing seeds that are genetically modified seeds.
01:39:02.000It's already too far to turn back, really, in that case.
01:39:05.000Because they've sued everybody else out of existence, and their seeds are so prolific that they're engineered to dominate other strains.
01:39:14.000And that's just what will happen with all grains, with all grown vegetables eventually.
01:39:19.000With salmon, now they've made genetically modified salmon that are on shelves that you might have eaten unbeknownst to you.
01:39:24.000Yeah, it's really scary because the deal is if the pollen crosses into your field and then exactly.
01:39:30.000And what's happening, the pollen does cross in the field, and then they prove that with the like the Supreme Court supports Monsanto in that way is that they go, well, we found this in your field.
01:40:10.000But that's the last thing I'm doing is I'm going, well, I just have to go local and in my community with my voice to go, here's options that we have.
01:40:18.000And you need to be cognizant of where you're spending your dollars.
01:40:21.000It's interesting because Kara Santa Maria was on here.
01:40:23.000She's a former science person for the Huffington Post.
01:40:39.000She thinks that the only way people can survive on this planet with the population that we have now is with genetically modified food.
01:40:45.000She says she understands that Monsanto may be illegal, or rather unethical and evil, but that genetically modified foods are probably imperative for the survival of the race.
01:40:54.000If you believe farming is the core of how to feed people, you might make that argument, but it doesn't account for topsoil destruction.
01:41:01.000The only way we're going to make people survive is by pushing agriculture out from being a centralized activity to being a decentralized activity that has resilience built in.
01:41:09.000We're doing monoculture everywhere, and GMOs make that even worse.
01:41:12.000So you genetically modify something, and then a new blight that's good for that one strain is there, and you're dead.
01:41:21.000And the other issue is that they're trying to dominate the actual natural corn and the natural non-genetically modified plants by allowing their pollen to get into these farmers and then suing them for it.
01:41:35.000And just by the fact that they are suing these guys for it, the reason why they're doing that is because they're trying to dominate them and take them out of the fields.
01:41:41.000They're trying to destroy them off the market.
01:42:04.000And they're trying to diminish and mitigate anybody from having a bad feeling about that.
01:42:08.000And then, I'm sorry, you turn 17, you get out of school, fucking you find out that people lose all over the place.
01:42:14.000And you also, if everybody wins in your construct, you never get to learn that, well, maybe I suck at running, but I'm great at the tuba or whatever.
01:42:21.000Nobody finds their own beauty in that.
01:42:23.000And so you're trying to make homogenize fucking people.
01:42:26.000And that's disgusting and loathsome at one regard.
01:42:29.000People need to learn what that hurt and what that sting and what getting punched in the mouth is like.
01:42:33.000The other thing is, is that with that, oh, well, not every, I hear that shit all the time.
01:42:39.000I heard that shit from a woman that's like, well, I'm just trying to lessen my carbon footprint on the earth.
01:42:45.000And she works for some environmental agency in Maine or something.
01:42:50.000In the meantime, she's infertile and gets all kinds of shit to have two kids and spends thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.
01:42:57.000Having a child is one of the most brutal things that you can impact the environment with.
01:43:01.000I'm not saying it's bad, all you mothers or whatever, but I'm saying that if nature's not giving you that and for you to force that and force fuck your way into the fucking, into that kind of stream, but be against grass-fed.
01:43:12.000But be against grass-fed fucking cows, go fuck yourself.
01:43:49.000And when titty bars are getting supported all over the place and dudes are dropping a couple hundred dollars in the titty bar to leave with a boner, I'm pretty sure they could put that into a cow.
01:43:58.000Yeah, I was going to get grass-fed, but I needed to get my dick road.
01:44:02.000And so, like, that whole thing, if you're talking about people that don't want to achieve, it's like a guy came on and he said, Hey, ask Dave, he hit me up on Twitter and he goes, ask about at what cost do you want to optimize yourself?
01:44:53.000It seems like wanting to believe in science over nature when there's all these natural foods that are already here that actually are healthy.
01:45:35.000You talk about what the unknown things are that are in the rainforest that are getting cut down.
01:45:40.000Like all the different plants that we haven't even classified yet that are being destroyed on a daily basis.
01:45:45.000Like there's so much shit on this earth that we don't even know of.
01:45:48.000And for the arrogance to come in and say, we need to homogenize all grains, meats, and everything so that we can feed a whole population in 20 years from now at the rate that we're growing and expanding, that's so ridiculous.
01:46:01.000It's coming from such a place of scarcity also.
01:46:03.000It's like even consciously in my own life talking about people and what changes are.
01:46:09.000And as long as I'm going, I need more, I need this, I need that, I need more money or whatever, when I'm thinking of that way as a kid, it's like there's never enough.
01:46:18.000But when I go, I need to make my boss some more money.
01:46:21.000Like I need to make this business run better.
01:46:23.000When I did that, fucking things grew for me crazy exponentially.
01:46:27.000Somebody was giving me a ride from the airport the other day and they're like, oh, well, these podcasts that you do or when you go and speak at schools, Tate, or when you run this, or like, does that stuff give you money?
01:46:37.000And I'm like, well, not in a conventional sense, but I guess existentially, perhaps.
01:46:42.000But the thing is, is like, I don't want anybody that's after money.
01:46:46.000I want people that are after a fucking revolution.
01:46:48.000I want people that are after a whole movement that's moving in a positive, progressive manner.
01:47:20.000How dare you at what cost to optimize?
01:47:22.000You're going to live your whole life being mediocre when you could have been awesome and great.
01:47:26.000Isn't that a much bigger waste than what?
01:47:29.000It's like spitting in the face of God.
01:47:31.000Whatever you believe in, it's like so you're just okay with not succeeding and with not showing anybody else behind you how to get better.
01:47:39.000It's like when you go on rants and you're talking about, you know, you've got a bunch of mediocre people that have mediocre kids and everybody is mimicking that.
01:47:46.000It's like, don't I have a responsibility not only for like whether it's for my fitness or to protect somebody weaker than me or whatever it is, but to be the best that I can be so that you can show the next generation.
01:47:56.000It's like when Jesse Owens runs and he's the fastest man in the world until people see that, they go, that's the fastest man.
01:48:03.000And now with the internet and the progressiveness of all this, with these ideas, it's crazy to think that I would be anything except optimized.
01:48:47.000I think that the idea that there's a separation between us and that is the thing.
01:48:52.000And I know you know it's bullshit too.
01:48:54.000It's like if we're all vibrating at a higher level of consciousness that is in sync with whatever the universal vibration is, there's not hiccups in the gears.
01:49:05.000And it's that illusion of separation that keeps us all in this fucking muted state of consciousness that creates road rage, that creates like the idea that I need to control the ocean or the fucking crops or whatever.
01:49:16.000That's why meditation is so important because when you start feeling all that stuff, you realize that you're not as separate as you think you are.
01:49:22.000Well, also, I think people need to hear from people like yourself or either one of you who have experienced ups and downs and have some idea of what has changed in their life that's been beneficial.
01:49:33.000And that way, a person listening can learn without having to go through any of the mistakes that I or you might have made.
01:49:52.000I mean, the change that that's made and then that the internet's made.
01:49:56.000And Joe, I would have never started a podcast without you going, dude, you've got to make people privy to whatever conversations and madness and enlightenments there are.
01:50:06.000And then I thought, too, man, when I was talking to coach a couple weeks ago, I did one with Mr. Greg Jackson that was fantastic.
01:50:14.000And I would have never maybe seen Greg again or seen him in passing, but to go and set aside time for conversations with people that you admire and that you revere and that you're like, oh, this is like, fuck, what an opportunity that is.
01:50:24.000And you get to put it out there so other people can experience it too.
01:50:27.000And these people that have been so formative in your life, right?
01:50:29.000Yeah, weird, cool people that you meet and talk to.
01:50:33.000I don't know where we were when we went on this little term.
01:50:54.000Because right now the human genome is essentially all patented right now.
01:50:58.000Well, remember when they there was a guy that there was a guy last year that got charged by the DEA with transporting drugs because he was saying there's a thing in Boulder or somewhere like that where you can do stem cell shit.
01:51:10.000And they're saying you're taking your own body across state lines.
01:51:13.000That's a fucking federal crime because you're going with the intention of taking your stem cells out.
01:51:20.000And so they fucking charge this poor cocksucker with transporting illegal drugs across state lines because they want to stop that fucking progress.
01:51:28.000And get this, like Angelina Jolie, she had her breast amputated because she was afraid she might get cancer.
01:51:34.000Now, there's a lot about epigenetics, a lot of research I've done there about how your environment affects your cancer risk.
01:51:41.000And I'm sure she thought she was doing the right thing.
01:51:43.000But here's the thing, the company that does the test for BRCA1 and 2, the genes that she has that put her at high risk, they own those genes.
01:51:59.000The company does that, they make like a billion dollars a year off breast cancer genes, and no one else is allowed there unless they say so, because they own the gene.
01:52:08.000They make a billion dollars a year off breast cancer genes.
01:53:21.000So in fact, those are like the main pillars in this thing for making like optimized children who like have every opportunity you can give them.
01:53:44.000Imagine there's like a firewall around your DNA and your DNA stores the set of things, your potential.
01:53:50.000So there's a firewall and your RNA comes in to copy that DNA.
01:53:54.000When it tries to come in and copy the DNA, it can only copy what it can get past the firewall to see.
01:53:58.000And the firewall is configured by the environment.
01:54:00.000So it turns out your exposome, the set of everything you're exposed to, your emotions, your pollution, your toxins, when you exercise, when you sleep, the quality of your sleep, everything that changes these things.
01:54:13.000So you might have a statistically higher chance of getting breast cancer from BRCA1 or BRCA2.
01:54:18.000But can you account for that by going to sleep earlier, by eating things that don't contribute to cancer?
01:54:24.000Like what are the environmental things you can do to balance risk?
01:54:26.000So what Angelina Jolie did is she ignored the things she could do to balance risk as far as we can tell.
01:54:34.000But she went ahead and made this relatively drastic decision.
01:54:38.000Like I can tell you, there's X amount of chance of me getting arm cancer, but I'm not cutting off my arms, right?
01:54:43.000And seriously, the line of thinking that says you amputate things that might get sick instead of monitoring them and doing everything in your power to keep them from getting sick, that seems broken.
01:54:52.000There's a school of thought on some forms of cancer where some families just have some unavoidable form of cancer.
01:54:59.000I mean, there's a lot of people who are.
01:55:00.000I remember when Congress or somebody got breast implants, and that was a thing that she put out to the press.
01:55:04.000She says, I did this as a precautionary thing because everybody in my family got breast cancer.
01:55:09.000And I was like, whatever reason you did it for, awesome.
01:55:16.000Back then it was like she was probably afraid of judgment of the, you know, oh, you're trying to augment yourself in this regard or that regard.
01:55:22.000And so she said, you know, and that's, I was like, that's legit, man, whatever the reason.
01:55:25.000So there's a whole class of cancers that form after you're injured.
01:55:29.000So where there's like a scar or an abrasion.
01:55:32.000So even the act of doing breast removal creates another risk factor for cancer.
01:55:39.000And what's the risk of having a microstroke under surgery?
01:56:14.000And they're getting more and more resilient and more resistant to whatever antibiotics you can get.
01:56:20.000But then also, I'd have you think when you think about like the cellular regeneration that happens with cancer in an abnormal form, that shit is completely fed by sugars.
01:56:30.000And so like that, that having a low-fat diet and all that is really harmful.
01:56:35.000There's a lot of good evidence to eat in certain ways.
01:57:20.000Yeah, and that's how powerful sugar is.
01:57:22.000So if you're at high risk for breast cancer, you ought not to eat polyunsaturated oils and you ought not to eat sugar, especially fructose.
01:57:29.000If you do that, how do we know what percentage reduction you have?
01:57:32.000So if you have an 87% increased risk or an 87% risk in entirety, no one's tested what that looks like when you take these other lifestyle things.
01:57:42.000And if you did that right, maybe then you monitor and you decide based on your progress whether you're going to have a surgery or you're not going to have it.
01:57:49.000But to just kind of reactively do it because of the results of one proprietary gene test, to me, seems kind of scary.
01:57:55.000And the fact that this company owns those genes, so I'm not allowed to do my own research on them.
01:57:59.000I'm not allowed to have a university do research on them.
01:58:01.000Obviously, I've done no research on your not doing any research, so I don't know whether you're telling the truth or not about that.
01:58:06.000But if that is absolutely right and correct, it's fucking crazy.
01:58:25.000But just vis-a-vis the fact that your stem cells are a controlled substance, that you can be sued for walking your body around if you have the intention of doing that testing.
01:58:34.000Was that some John Ashcroft nonsense that happened during the day?
01:58:42.000But then the fact that people owning genes or all that, is it outlandish then to think that I wouldn't want to create an illness if I had stocks, say, in this big pharma company, in this grain manufacturer?
01:58:59.000I mean, fuck, man, I want to create the problem.
01:59:02.000It's like, of course you want BP to fucking blow itself up in the Gulf because you're the only one that's saying, I can clean this up even if you can't, whatever, and I'm going to fleece the taxpayers.
01:59:11.000It's all how can I fucking co-opt to make as much money and double down on this as I can, and I'm going to buy tragedies.
01:59:17.000And that's what American corporations are doing.
01:59:20.000I don't know if people are making diseases, but I know if you gave someone the opportunity to make a disease that would kill a few weak people, but make you a billion dollars, a lot of companies would be down for it.
01:59:29.000They would figure out a way to legally make it happen.
02:00:14.000Most people actually aren't evil, and most people aren't going to kill someone sitting across from them or even poison a whole country to make money.
02:00:21.000But the problem is when you make a whole bunch of small decisions to optimize profit, you end up with the American healthcare system, which is more expensive than any other country and produces suboptimal results.
02:00:31.000It's not because there's some evil puppet master.
02:00:34.000It's just because over time, everyone optimized every micro decision in order to get the most profit instead of the most human wellness.
02:00:40.000And when you do that, you end up with mediocrity.
02:00:43.000And that's what we're trying to start a revolution against.
02:00:45.000There needs to be some complete total transparency as far as what people's actions in terms of companies and corporations and how that affects human beings.
02:01:00.000This should be like a real honest and accurate account.
02:01:02.000If your laptop costs you $50 less than it would if people weren't jumping off roofs, maybe they should set it up so that you have to pay $50 more for your fucking laptop.
02:01:28.000The whole idea is that we're basing it on the assumption that you're a broken being that's coming to a doctor and looking for wellness instead of like that you come from a perfect wellness and how to restore that state.
02:01:42.000We're looking to like I've got a friend that's been trying to get off Paxil for three years now.
02:01:47.000And every time he goes into the darkest fucking holes and he'll forget parts of his days.
02:03:06.000You know, the development of human beings has not really been accurately assessed or really diagrammed.
02:03:14.000It hasn't been really engineered in a conscientious, objective, and really positive way where you've looked at what is the best way to optimize being a human being on this planet from the way you think about things to how do you behave and what kind of food you put into your body.
02:03:29.000It's really difficult to acquire this kind of information.
02:03:33.000dude, I remember riding to the airport with you and going, Jesus, can you imagine being on this slave ship every day, talking about driving down the 405 every day at 9 a.m. or whatever it is?
02:03:44.000I was looking at like every industry that I've been in in my adult life, which has been pretty much to try to not have a job.
02:03:51.000And I've been pretty good at it, but having a job without having one.
02:03:55.000And like I've got like the concrete cowboy is a nightclub in Dallas.
02:04:00.000And one of the managers that's there, he's like, you know, all we're doing is the people that are working Monday through Friday, this is what it is.
02:04:43.000the film industry, I think in the great depression was the only thing that remained static or maybe went up because people are trying to avoid the horrific fucking existence that they're having.
02:04:52.000And so how is it that instead of having a life that I want to escape, I can build in a life that is satisfactory and that I can, Yeah, for sure.
02:05:02.000Yeah, if you ever meet a guy who just likes to make knives, he loves making knives, and that guy's a happy motherfucker.
02:06:07.000And it's because they own the genes that in owning the testing, they stopped anybody from competing with them and also testing for the genes.
02:06:14.000Yeah, so if anyone else wants to do a report that says you have the BRCA1 gene, they can't say that.
02:06:18.000What about if someone wants to do research on the gene?
02:06:33.000You'll be able to sequence your own genes in your own house in not that much longer.
02:06:37.000You look at Moore's Law, how fast the price of this is done.
02:06:40.000Early in my career, I was with this program called Double Twist.
02:06:43.000They were a customer of this big data center I worked for.
02:06:45.000We had a whole floor of a skyscraper in Oakland, and it was just packed with these million-dollar servers to sequence the human genome and to make it go online.
02:06:53.000And now for $99, I can get that same thing done for my DNA.
02:07:44.000I'm being on a regular basis shocked by how transparent some of these things are, how transparent the connection between Monsanto and money and influencing politicians and different things that are getting snuck through Congress.
02:08:00.000And you're hearing about the Monsanto Protection Act or supposedly whatever it's called.
02:08:05.000What people are calling the Monsanto Protection Act.
02:08:07.000And it's so gross to see corruption so obvious.
02:08:14.000It's so gross to see a group of people that are supposedly our leaders that have virtually no inspirational things to say whatsoever.
02:08:23.000There's not a single one who ever gets up and says, what we need to do is eat healthy food, drink a lot of water, get a lot of exercise, meditate, and follow your passion.
02:08:33.000You need to surround yourself with good people and be good to those people.
02:08:35.000Or like monitor the news in a different way.
02:08:45.000Someone's got to figure out a way to make money from telling you the truth.
02:08:49.000If they can make the same kind of money, if CNN can make more money by being honest with you than they could about being county and bullshitting and having Anderson Coover in front of a green screen, maybe we would trust them more.
02:09:00.000Maybe you can actually make money that way.
02:09:02.000I was listening to some tapes of Ronald Reagan after he's like, it was the whole thing we don't negotiate with terrorists talk that he's giving.
02:09:26.000And then he says one month later, I know I said that once and I believe in my heart that it wasn't true, but it turns out that the facts are different than what my heart would like to believe.
02:10:23.000And as it becomes more and more transparent, as it becomes revealed more and more how much of a foothold big money and big corporations have in governments all over the world, the more it becomes ridiculous that they don't talk about it.
02:10:36.000So they were never really our president.
02:10:38.000What they were, were really good at saying the things that we really like to hear while they were being a gangster working for the top dicks in the world.
02:11:19.000You think it clings to her like a fog?
02:11:22.000She smells like a beautiful little puppy.
02:11:25.000What do you think about There's a lot of people that are going to Europe, and they're going to Europe for treatments that aren't available in the United States because the United States during the Bush administration had a bunch of wacky fucking restrictions on stem cell research.
02:11:47.000So the Europeans got way ahead of what America is doing as far as things with stem cells.
02:11:54.000And a lot of professional athletes have been going over there to get these really crazy cutting-edge treatments.
02:12:01.000They pulled blood from his body, spun it in something, and it incubates for 10 hours, and they pump it back into his body, and it completely cured his Munier's disease.
02:12:12.000He goes back again to do it like in a few months, but he's like, what they're doing is like fixing people that have injuries they could never fix before, people with like fucked up backs, like Peyton Manning apparently went over there and got his neck fixed.
02:12:25.000I haven't done a lot of specific research on stem cells themselves.
02:12:29.000What I do know is that a lot of the things going on with medical interventions in the U.S., it's incredibly slow and hide-bound.
02:12:37.000I worked with one of the first companies that had a stick-on cardio monitor.
02:12:40.000I designed the whole infrastructure to get the signal off the body onto the cloud so we could analyze it.
02:12:46.000And the amount of money that that company had to raise just for compliance for this sort of thing was incredible.
02:12:52.000So there's all sorts of really brilliant doctors and naturopaths and other guys who have technologies.
02:12:59.000Some of them are anti-cancer, some of them are for obesity, some of them are for rapid healing.
02:13:05.000And in order for them to actually do it, if they stand up and say, I'm doing this, they'll lose their license almost immediately because it's an unapproved treatment.
02:13:12.000So we have this whole bureaucratic institution that forces people who are really good healers to at least publicly support things that don't work very well.
02:13:22.000And they do this, even though maybe at home they're doing something different because until you have these double-blind studies, et cetera, et cetera, it's just very slow.
02:13:30.000So what a lot of the new groundbreaking companies, including some of the ones that I advise, what they do is they go overseas.
02:13:36.000Because if you go, say, to Europe or better yet to Singapore, you can do amazing things to heal people that are not legal to do in the U.S. and might not be legal for 20 years, and it'll cost you a lot less money.
02:13:47.000Like what things do they have available?
02:13:49.000You can go over there and do some of the electrical medicine things like that.
02:13:55.000I mean, my first biohacking conference earlier this year, we had guys running relatively heavy amounts of electrical current over the body in order to increase myelination of the nerves.
02:14:06.000And myelinated nerves carry electricity faster and they let you move faster.
02:14:33.000I almost had the videos done for the conference, but I'll put those online.
02:14:38.000And what he was doing is he was punching really fast, but then he was pulling back slowly.
02:14:43.000So by running electricity and just coaching his form, but when you learn something with the electricity going over your nerves at 500 times a second, your mind thinks you did it 500 times.
02:14:52.000Do something 10,000 times to practice it, that kind of effect?
02:14:55.000Well, if your mind thinks you did it 10,000 times and you only did it for a little while, you get the practice effect.
02:15:18.000So they're measuring the amount of time between throwing the punch and pulling the punch back?
02:15:21.000Yeah, because if you can throw three punches, because you're pulling backwards, he punches however many times in 20 seconds under this, and then now he's punching this many more times in 20 seconds.
02:15:31.000That seems like it would be something that an athlete should do right before they did an event.
02:15:45.000So essentially, you could cut your amount of time that it takes to be proficient at something by a dramatic amount.
02:15:51.000The U.S. military is using this in the brain.
02:15:53.000They use this device, this little transcranial direct current stimulator thing, to train drone pilots in six weeks instead of three months.
02:16:01.000Drone piloting is the most boring job ever.
02:16:04.000You stare at a screen for 12 hours, and if you see something that's a target, which happens like once a day if you're lucky, you press a button and then someone dies.
02:17:41.000It's just like the separation of us as humans that because it happened somewhere else, that all of a sudden we're not responsible or accountable in some way is really.
02:17:50.000It's also interesting how we choose to marginalize the numbers.
02:17:54.000You remember when the war first started?
02:17:56.000I don't know if you remember, but I remember the first deaths that were coming in.
02:18:00.000They were telling you about the deaths.
02:18:02.000And the reason why they were telling you about the deaths was because our last experience with war was like the craziest Mike Tyson first-round victory ever.
02:18:11.000When we fought Iraq, it was literally like we went over there and fucking Mike Tyson them.
02:18:17.000Their whole army was gone within a couple of weeks.
02:18:19.000And the only people that died, I think there was a couple that had died before the big accident where a Scud missile had hit a base and killed a bunch of people that were all in one area.
02:18:31.000And that was like the big, that was like 100%.
02:18:32.000And if a scud hit somebody, that was a complete accident.
02:19:05.000Occasionally you'll see in a little sidebar, but you'll see a big one about some crazy bitch who stabbed her boyfriend.
02:19:11.000Or you see another one about some chick who drowned her kid or did this or left a baby in a car.
02:19:16.000And they'll just dwell and follow that person to hound him out.
02:19:19.000This Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin thing, the divisiveness between the two races and how people are so invested in one side or another being correct.
02:19:28.000Fascinating shit, but a massive distraction in terms of the overall population of the human race.
02:19:34.000If you look at what the fuck evil shit is going on right now, one questionable death does not merit, I mean, it merits people paying attention to it, but it doesn't merit any more than some people that died because of a drone attack that weren't guilty of anything but being poor and living in Pakistan.
02:19:55.000And they don't even get, there's no talk about them at all.
02:19:58.000I mean, it occasionally, it's a number that someone will bring up, but no one's like, well, and if you do talk about it, you're labeled a conspiracy theorist or some psychopath.
02:20:07.000And it's like, how is me caring about human fucking life?
02:20:18.000If you study etymology of fucking words, you dalt.
02:20:21.000We want to walk through the bad thing.
02:20:24.000And on the tip of all that, too, I want to give due credence and respect and thanks to all those people that are there that are put in an intolerable situation, making a decision I wouldn't want to have to make.
02:20:38.000And whether it's like my friend Brian Stan, Kicker, Tommy Truex, John Trejo, my cousin Spence Fletcher, all you guys, everybody that's gone and served, thank you so much.
02:20:49.000And I'm just glad I've never been in that position and I respect your decision to be on the front lines there because I know that every guy that I know that ever signed up has done so with America and those kinds of ideals of what we've been built on in America in their hearts.
02:21:04.000Well, that's the whole classic story that's been provided.
02:21:30.000Yeah, anybody that doesn't mention his name as a hero on Memorial Day.
02:21:33.000Well, not only that, like, think of the horrible things that people have done in this country.
02:21:38.000the horrible things that Dick Cheney probably did.
02:21:43.000They put this kid and they locked him in solitary fucking confinement for years for releasing information about something that was clearly wrong that he felt he needed to do.
02:21:51.000And if you look at what actually got exposed, well, the things that got exposed, first of all, the names were names that were already released.
02:21:58.000That was the only names that they released.
02:22:00.000But then the information itself that got exposed is something that people really needed to deal with.
02:22:04.000They really needed to deal with the attitudes that those helicopter fighter pilots had about killing those kids that were in, like when they found out there were kids in the van, they're like, well, they shouldn't have brought their kids.
02:23:07.000Like Obama's kill list came out through the New York Times, and there's all these names on there, and they're like, oh, yeah, these two guys that happened to die, they're American citizens.
02:23:19.000However, and we didn't give them due process at all, but we didn't need to because they're off the borders.
02:23:24.000Well, then they start doing that in the United States.
02:23:26.000You look at that fucking crazy cop that they shot like four other people that they didn't mean to before they burned him alive in the cabin.
02:23:51.000I have a buddy who has friends in the intelligence business, and he's like, you know, it was really a wake-up call for a lot of people.
02:23:57.000Because they're like, that's a terrible thing that happened because they had those cops shitting themselves.
02:24:01.000And it really alerted people to the fact that, hey, it wouldn't be too hard to make a lot of fucking noise.
02:24:06.000If one guy could do something like that, one crazy Christopher Dormer military-trained former police officer who's giant can do something like that.
02:24:15.000What could a team of 10 guys from another country do?
02:24:18.000And that are well trained to work in unison.
02:24:20.000Goddamn Chuck Norris movies would have done.
02:24:22.000You better get those denim stretch jeans on and get working.
02:24:25.000But that's the problem, too, with Boston is in that way, in the same way that people are like, he didn't get, and I don't want to argue about whether you need your Miranda rights written and they're in special circumstances, whatever, go fuck yourself.
02:24:38.000But the fucking fact is, is that if you're not worried that there's tanks in the street and that there's people that are going with M4s door to door with flat jackets on that can pull you out and need you to comply right now and they can do illegal search and seizure and all that happened because this act happened and that's not terrifying to you, then you're no fucking American.
02:24:57.000What were the tanks doing there again?
02:25:12.000It's not like give these people that are quote unquote the government ultimate control of your life to protect you from things like that happening.
02:25:33.000I don't even think it's an accountability thing.
02:25:35.000If your nervous system does stupid shit before you had a chance to notice it happening, which is the reason a lot of these people do stuff, it's happening on automated pilots.
02:25:42.000So you mean they develop their whole life doing a bunch of stupid shit and it becomes like automated.
02:25:49.000They do self-destructive things first because it's programmed in their brain.
02:25:53.000It's programmed in before they can think about it.
02:25:55.000So you can hold someone accountable for what their nervous system did when they weren't looking, which is what happens for a lot of these people.
02:25:59.000So when you grow up in a shit environment like that, by the time you get to a certain age, in a lot of respects, you're programmed in a terrible way, and it's an incredibly difficult thing to reprogram.
02:26:09.000How do you, and it's actually not that hard.
02:26:10.000That's why I'm into these things like neurofeedback and hooking computers up to your head and showing your brain where it's not behaving well.
02:26:16.000Your brain, as an organ, self-optimizes.
02:26:19.000Okay, how does that help you if you're a kid and you're living in the hood and your mentality is all fucked up because you grow up in a really violent environment?
02:27:00.00010 hours of being hooked up to a machine, letting their brains fix themselves without even having to do any real conscious effort there changes everything.
02:27:09.000I met another girl from an incredibly wrecked family.
02:27:12.000Like her whole, she was a First Nations person in Canada.
02:27:16.000This is like the local equivalent of American Indians.
02:27:19.000Alcoholics in the family, like, you know, relatives with horrible, violent deaths in front of her, like all the things that fuck you up.
02:27:27.000One neurofeedback session for seven days, she becomes valedictorian at her school, stops drinking, and completely cleans herself up.
02:27:35.000So you can get in at the nervous system level, underneath the conscious thing, and you can undo an enormous amount of damage, and you can build people that are resilient.
02:27:43.000So even when bad stuff happens, they don't turn into murdering psychos.
02:27:46.000We've got to start doing this stuff for people because we're putting stresses on people that they were never, ever meant to take.
02:27:52.000My point is, though, is that sociologically, the reason I say accountability is because it's like I want the TSA to take care of me if I'm on a plane.
02:28:02.000Therefore, I don't have to stand up if somebody's coming with a razor blade down the aisleway.
02:28:47.000And she's in like a third stage chemotherapy.
02:28:51.000And then two weeks ago, on top of all that, this guy that I'd always looked up to and kind of revered, who's got mental problems, man, he lit himself on fire and burned off 85% of his skin, stayed alive for three days afterwards before they pulled the plug.
02:29:09.000And with all that, it's like you look at, you know, who are we taking care of now?
02:29:15.000He's got four kids, you know, and like, I feel, I don't, I know his oldest boy, but like I feel tremendous responsibility to that community as somebody that I've loved and grown up with.
02:29:26.000And so giving to a fund for them, and I'll give every bit I can, whenever I can, but it's like, where do I have responsibility for my community instead of going, where's my government to take care of him?
02:29:38.000It's like we need to take care of each other in that way.
02:29:41.000And that's what I mean, I guess, when I say a heightened responsibility for my community.
02:29:45.000You're accountable for what happens around you instead of some random entity out there that's going to help me accountable.
02:29:51.000You're certainly accountable for yourself.
02:29:52.000The problem is if you grow up in that terrible environment with a bunch of really negative influences and you're programmed in a horrible way, it's super hard to fucking snap out of that.
02:31:49.000For the incident, for the approximately 50% for the OA producing mold at wildly different concentrations, minimum of O2 ppb in one study and a maximum of 7.8 ppb in another.
02:32:01.000This tells me anything, if this tells me anything at all, it's that you should probably vary your source if you want to minimize your risk.
02:32:07.000Neither the FDA or the EFSA actually has a legal limit for OA, but the EFSA, whatever the fuck these things are, suggests a limit of 8, it looks like a U, 8 UG, KG, which means that even the worst samples are below the very conservative legal limit.
02:33:06.000Okratoxin, which actually is regulated by the FDA and has a maximum of 20 ppb.
02:33:11.000This study also showed that approximately 50% incident rate after roasting, with the highest concentration of AT being 16 kg for decaf, less with caffeine.
02:33:22.000So that means with any random cup of coffee, you have up to a 50% chance of consuming an amount of AT that's still well below the FDA limit.
02:33:32.000It says none of the studies test the rate of the mold growth on beans while storage under various conditions, temperature, humidity, et cetera.
02:33:39.000So we can't comment on what happens in storage.
02:33:41.000I guess if you really want to be on the safe side, only buy as much coffee as you think you can use in a week or two.
02:33:46.000Conclusion, it says don't believe, this is just what it says.
02:33:49.000Don't believe everything that people tell you, especially people with something to sell unless you're drinking gallons of coffee a day, gallons of coffee a day.
02:34:05.000Let me put you answer on the science of it is that all I know is like from anything, whether it's a paleo diet, a primal diet, a zone diet, or whatever, is only because I've read that.
02:34:16.000And if I've only read it, all I have is talking points.
02:34:19.000But I've been my own experiment with all these things.
02:34:23.000And what I do notice, and one of the most telling things when I got Bulletproof Coffee, is that when you asked me, do you sometimes feel, or you didn't ask me?
02:34:40.000I mean, you were talking about it from an anecdotal standpoint, which is, I know it helped you, and I enjoy bulletproof coffee, but we got to answer this.
02:34:47.000So what he's talking about during stored storage of coffee, he was a little confused because it's storage of green coffee where problems might happen.
02:34:55.000And controlled humidity levels in green coffee matter enormously.
02:34:59.000That's why, for instance, Indonesian coffee, which tastes really good, has problems because it's stored with higher humidity.
02:35:07.000But what's happening is actually happening during the process that turns it into green coffee.
02:35:11.000There's another set of toxins that come during the transport of coffee, which is why how the coffee is bagged on the big container ships actually affects what comes out of the roaster at the other end.
02:35:21.000Now, this guy is relying on the FDA to tell him the safe amount of aflatoxin to take.
02:35:25.000Now, that's a decision he may choose to make.
02:35:28.000Frankly, I don't really trust the FDA to keep my best interests at heart.
02:35:31.000The FDA is also basically judging economics and safety.
02:35:35.000This is the same FDA that tells you that aspartame is perfectly safe and healthy for you, which is complete bullshit.
02:35:41.000So, okay, now the point is, somehow it's binary.
02:36:00.000Well, we looked at a computerized cognitive battery and had people do a washout.
02:36:04.000And we had 54 people in this study, and they tried my coffee, which has zero detectable mycotoxins, and other coffee, which has under the safe limit.
02:36:25.000So, but this is just you stating by your test that it's not correct, because it is correct that some substances, you can take a little bit of it and be fine and take a large dose of it and be dead.
02:36:46.000I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I just want to be clear.
02:36:49.000So what you're saying is that even a small amount, although your body may be able to handle it, your body's processing it, it still impedes performance.
02:36:57.000And that's what the FDA is not addressing.
02:36:59.000They don't look at performance at all.
02:37:01.000Basically, is it going to kill you above a certain risk level that they deem tolerable?
02:37:18.000What you're going to feel is you're going to feel anxiety.
02:37:20.000And I get lots of people who just gave up coffee like I did because they felt crappy when they drink it, who can drink perfectly clean coffee because different people have different sensitivities.
02:37:29.000And the other thing that this guy hasn't talked about with his numbers, and this is well established in toxicology, is that there's a synergism between mycotoxins.
02:37:37.000So if you're getting X amount of aflatoxin, X amount of ocrotoxin, X amount of xeralinone all together, that they have a synergistic effect greater than the level of each one of them.
02:37:45.000So I test for all those in my beans, and there's zero detectable any of them.
02:37:49.000And that's because the process that I engineered to create the beans themselves doesn't allow for their formation.
02:37:56.000All these other companies that are selling mycotoxin, like I saw one website that actually praised your idea for bulletproof coffee, which is your own invention based on, what is it, tea that you drank with butter?
02:39:31.000But what it is, is you're an expert on all these things that you've spent time researching and you've accumulated a bunch of information on.
02:39:38.000And look, there's something important about that.
02:39:42.000And people need to get that in your head.
02:42:14.000So maybe higher doses of mycotoxins create more adrenal stress, lower doses create less.
02:42:19.000So having coffee without toxins in it, if you have adrenal problems, seems to be okay.
02:42:23.000I have lots and lots of people on the forums who are in up to stage three adrenal fatigue, who have one cup of upgraded beans, you know, the mycotoxin-free coffee, and they do very well.
02:42:34.000I've been in stage three adrenal fatigue multiple times, and I still use a cup of coffee.
02:42:38.000I've tried going without coffee, I've tried going with it.
02:42:41.000And the bottom line is: if you're doing it responsibly, I think doing it with the fat, which actually lowers your stress level when your body has adequate food and adequate nutrition like that, I think is at least a wash, and it's probably not harmful.
02:42:53.000But if you have adrenal fatigue, like real, like I'm bedridden sort of stuff, you probably ought not to be using anything with caffeine.
02:42:59.000The funny thing you say is like maybe the mycotoxins are causing this adrenal response.
02:43:04.000Like that needs to be sort of researched, right?
02:43:17.000What would be a way that you could do a test on coffee to find out with X amount of people, what sort of a control would you need to do a test on people and ensure that they get a certain amount of mycotoxins in their coffee and then ensure that they get none?
02:43:34.000I'd be actually really interested in that.
02:43:36.000I would contribute coffee to a study like that, although I don't know where to get aflatoxin guaranteed certified level coffee.
02:43:41.000One of the problems that we have with coffee is if you buy a container load of coffee, there can be a hot spot.
02:43:46.000The back of the container had a leak, right?
02:43:48.000So now you get like this much of the container has mycotoxins in it and the rest doesn't.
02:43:54.000And this is one of the reasons that the small style roasting that I'm doing works.
02:43:58.000If you go up to like, you know, the massive coffee conglomerate level where you're mixing like a whole bunch of container loads together and you're homogenizing it, you're getting the average level down, but you're guaranteeing the presence of toxins.
02:44:07.000I want zero toxins, not just a little bit.
02:44:10.000Essentially, what's going on is these toxins are not really being considered as toxins because no one's dying.
02:44:16.000And even though they suck for your health and they make you feel like shit, no one's paying attention to it and the study doesn't address it.
02:44:23.000And the way they're looking at as far as regulation is a profit versus negative detriment to the human health, which seems to be very low.
02:44:32.000Whereas although it makes you feel kind of cranky, it's not really detrimental to your health.
02:44:37.000Do a research on mycotoxins and arterial lesions.
02:44:41.000Do a search on mycotoxins and fertility.
02:44:44.000There's a whole chapter in this book on what mycotoxins do to animals.
02:44:49.000When animals are pregnant, they buy special food without mycotoxins in it because when they feed mycotoxin grain and hay and alfalfa to animals, they spontaneously lose their pregnancies and they can't get pregnant.
02:45:01.000Like we know what these do to animals, but for those same things, we don't even have levels set for humans for some humans.
02:45:07.000Well, this is what I think we really need to do to continue this conversation in sort of an ethical way.
02:45:12.000Because I think we're bringing up a lot of things that we can't really completely substantiate.
02:45:17.000Like the mycotoxin levels in different coffees like Starbucks and Pete's and whatever shit at the mall and the gas station.
02:45:24.000I feel like there needs to be some sort of study done or some test done on a bunch of different ones.
02:45:30.000Just randomly pull them out of Starbucks and test them.
02:46:18.000Well, I think we would get a good sample is if you randomly tested 50 places in this country, just went into a place and bought a coffee, and then wrote the day, the time, where it came from, whether it was coffee bean, whether it was Pete's, whatever it is, mom and pop coffee shop.
02:46:58.000I don't think that they want to do that.
02:47:00.000Yeah, but the people that are working as managers, do you think they know?
02:47:03.000Joe, I've talked to some of the most prestigious coffee scientists in the world working for five-plus billion dollar companies about this problem.
02:47:33.000This is a back-end industrial supply issue with coffee.
02:47:37.000So there's one of the very large coffee conglomerates has a giant research facility with 70 scientists working on this now.
02:47:44.000And in Europe, they've had to change the way they buy green coffee because now they make the people who buy the green coffee from the coffee growers.
02:47:52.000So there's a growing production process, there's a coffee broker, and the coffee broker buys it.
02:47:58.000But if they don't arrange for proper transportation, the coffee can actually develop mycotoxins in transportation.
02:48:04.000So what's happening now is that the roasters in the supply chain there are actually forcing the brokers, who never had to be responsible for this before.
02:48:12.000In Europe, they're forcing the brokers to take on that risk.
02:48:14.000And it's changing a lot of the whole part of coffee over there.
02:48:20.000On top of that, according to the last research I've seen, Starbucks has $816 million worth of coffee in storage that they're working on.
02:48:28.000So now if we're going to do a sample of $816 million worth of coffee just for Starbucks, and I'm not picking on Starbucks, there's lots of giant coffee companies who buy all kinds of coffee.
02:48:53.000Humidity and temperature matter when you're storing coffee.
02:48:56.000So if it's, and depending also, like, if it's African natural coffee, that stuff always has mold in it just because of the way it's processed.
02:49:02.000So, I mean, well, okay, I don't even want to say it's unlikely or likely that they're going to have African coffee.
02:50:10.000And I'm doing this not to make a million dollars because trust me, people, if you want to make a million dollars, opening retail establishments sucks.
02:50:25.000Every paper cup does something to the margins, and it's actually something I have no experience in.
02:50:30.000But I'm doing it because I think that you should be able to buy bulletproof coffee and feel awesome.
02:50:33.000I want to give you a little bit of vindication because someone else on the board, a dude named Aquib, found some studies that found 52% to 91% of green coffee beans are contaminated with mycotoxins.
02:53:36.000Cholesterol, if you don't have oxidized cholesterol and you don't have inflammation in your body, having cholesterol is not a risk factor the way we've been taught it is.
02:54:00.000People who have high levels of unoxidized cholesterol, when they're exposed to poisons, they live a lot longer because your body uses cholesterol to escort toxins out of the body through the biliary system in the liver.
02:54:11.000So why have we been told that cholesterol is bad for you?
02:54:13.000Is it cholesterol on a diet with other things?
02:54:17.000Cholesterol was one of the first things we could measure in blood.
02:54:20.000So we've been focusing a lot of research on it since about, what, the 30s?
02:54:24.000But the Gary Tobbs type of people, as well as a huge body of research in the last couple of years, have come out really seriously questioning this.
02:54:32.000If you have adequate amounts of high-density cholesterol, the HDL, which you do if you eat this kind of bulletproof diet stuff, oh, sorry, I don't know what else to call it.
02:55:18.000So you get those guys where they should be.
02:55:20.000And having cholesterol that isn't oxidized is actually good for you.
02:55:23.000If you're taking your eggs and you're making like well-cooked omelets out of them and you're cooking the yolks to death, you're oxidizing that cholesterol And that's inflammatory.
02:55:31.000At the end of the day, or you should be eating raw eggs?
02:56:38.000Bulletproof ideas have been around since the beginning of time.
02:56:41.000You can use it for ideas, but if you're going to do bulletproof coffee or you're going to do it around food products, you're going to do it on me.
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