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00:06:09.000If you haven't seen it, they just sent it to us, and we don't know how to use it yet, so it just plays this one 4K loop that they have, this amazing loop of high-definition moving images, but it's all like Japanese girls and nature, and it's like...
00:06:23.000It's too much short attention span for my ADD brain, and I fucking shut down.
00:06:32.000I love the fact that 4K shit is becoming consumer stuff, though.
00:06:37.000Because once the cameras get in the hands of the people, we're going to be able to make our own fucking feature-length films that look like the shit at the movie theaters.
00:06:44.000There's a weird thing that happens with video as opposed to film that a lot of people don't like.
00:08:25.000When I first came to Hollywood, I was walking around with this executive and He was showing me around Disney, and he had one of those bad boys.
00:11:49.000Yeah, he grew up in the hood, to my knowledge.
00:11:52.000And his whole thing was when he was younger, there was a movie theater which he now owns, and I believe it's in Inglewood, like a rundown part of Inglewood, and all he did His mom would just send him to the theater and all he did was watch blaxploitation films.
00:13:03.000Maybe there was a certain character in some of these old blaxploitation films that when he would talk a certain way, he felt like he could convey what he was feeling.
00:13:13.000So he would adopt that in order to do that himself.
00:15:29.000It just, it conveys a different message.
00:15:32.000I don't know, like, those consumer camcorders, they're just, you know, everybody had one when they were a kid, and they tried to make fucking short films, like me and my friends did, and they just looked like shit.
00:15:42.000You could never quite capture the life that you wanted to.
00:15:45.000It's also a weird thing that it's kind of been established, that visual quality, the visual quality of film, it's like what we go to expect when we sit in the movie theater.
00:16:11.000It's almost like it's a film that shows you how people lived back then, like how they walked around and acted because a lot of the movie, like the first 10 minutes of the movie has no dialogue.
00:16:39.000Like, I try to always be cool and be like, oh, I'm going to watch, you know, this fucking old 1972 French movie and then I pop it in and it's just, dude, five minutes in, asleep.
00:16:48.000I mean, there's something to be said about modern cinema.
00:18:39.000You were thinking of the Throw Mama from the Train one, but it wasn't Throw Mama from the Train, because Throw Mama from the Train was that old gross lady from Goonies or something like that.
00:23:55.000Like non-boxers trying to cross over and like not Marky Mark or fucking Sylvester Stallone or anybody like that.
00:24:03.000Yeah, they say that Marky Mark has some professional boxing experience, but there's a way that people throw punches when no one's ever punched them.
00:24:11.000And there's a way that people throw punches when they've actually known how to box.
00:24:16.000The way that people throw punches when they're not worried about being punched back, they have this open, wide, I'm fucking gonna kill you sort of a thing.
00:24:24.000Whereas if you watch Daniel Day-Lewis, he threw punches like a boxer.
00:24:28.000Like he's worried about getting punched back.
00:29:56.000They say that the acidophilus bacteria, the acidophilus flora, It actually fights off.
00:30:03.000When you contact something with your hands, the acidophilus flora is an aggressive flora, and it's on your skin, and it actually will keep other things from infecting you as easily.
00:30:13.000Do you think that's the next raw egg, though?
00:30:15.000In 10 years, you're going to be like, yeah, I was drinking bacteria for a while.
00:30:19.000No, because your body is filled with bacteria.
00:30:23.000Your body needs bacteria for everything.
00:30:38.000Not only do you have to have that, you have to have a series of different kinds of bacteria inside of you.
00:30:43.000So when you take antibiotics, if you take antibiotics on a long scale, If you take some hardcore shit, they tell you you always take acidophilus when you're recovering from that.
00:30:52.000They want you to take in healthy bacteria and try to repopulate your gut.
00:30:56.000We have this isolated idea of the human body that it's just a one, but it's an ecosystem.
00:31:03.000Like, your body relies on a bunch of different shit to stay alive in you.
00:31:29.000The hands are the worst, man, because you shake so many people's hands, as I'm sure you do with your fans and stuff, and you don't want to be a dick.
00:31:35.000And then the worst is if you, you know, rub your eye or your nose.
00:31:39.000Well, I also think it's good for your immune system to shake that many people's hands.
00:31:43.000Because you get all that bacteria and it gives your immune system something to do.
00:31:47.000I think your body gets used to being around other people.
00:31:49.000They've shown that people who grow up in households where the parents are really obsessed with cleaning, those kids a lot of times develop allergies easier than kids who grow up in a house with two cats and two dogs.
00:32:03.000As usual folks, I've done no testing on any of these theories that I'm throwing out there.
00:32:07.000I've heard them and they make sense to me.
00:32:09.000I think that it's true because there's a lot...
00:32:11.000I'm not sure if you've ever heard this.
00:32:13.000There's a lot of third world countries that are below the equator that have a lot of people that are infected with hookworms and none of them have asthma or allergies.
00:32:23.000And there was a guy that had this like debilitating asthma and He did a research on it and found that hookworms, if you're infected by hookworms, will prevent asthma.
00:32:35.000And he went to Malawi and walked through a fucking latrine and tried to infect himself with hookworms, got infected, and it cured his asthma.
00:32:45.000And then he tried to start a company selling fucking hookworms to people.
00:33:53.000They swim in raw sewage and shit, so they never got sick.
00:33:56.000Yeah, that's an amazing thing about New York.
00:33:58.000If you go around New York and, like, especially if you're in a helicopter or anything where you get to look down and see the water or look over the bridge, it's dirty as fuck.
00:34:07.000I mean, and no one is trying to fix it.
00:34:09.000No one is saying, like, what we really need to do is make this water crystal clear so our children can swim in it.
00:35:41.000Apparently, though, people that purchased the hookworms that came from his body were having trouble administering them because they would try to inject them into their veins.
00:35:50.000It was the only way to administer them.
00:35:55.000Wait, did you just put it in your butthole?
00:35:57.000We had this infectious disease expert on the Joe Rogan Questions Everything show, and he told me that people in, when you come to tropical countries, he said everybody has something.
00:36:10.000He was explaining all these different diseases that we're not exactly sure about, like when they talk about toxoplasma and different parasites and all these different things.
00:36:18.000He's like, 100% of the people that live in these places are infected with something.
00:38:19.000You're going to have, you know, the amount of moisture there, the heat, the carcasses are going to rot, and just, you know, all the things that feed off of carcasses, and the diseases, infectious, airborne, da-da-da-da-da-da, in the water, blah-blah-blah-blah.
00:38:31.000Just, I mean, they have fucking, they have parasites that swim up your dick.
00:43:12.000Last podcast, Joe, I was freaked out about it because we talked about it so much, but then all the shit that people sent me on Twitter, now I'm just like, oh man, there's two sides of it.
00:43:35.000Yeah, fuck another American so obsessed with his own bullshit that doesn't understand one of the mass extinction events this world has ever known.
00:43:42.000I know a lot about extinction events, just I don't know about this one.
00:44:14.000And they pour water into it, and that's why they're always near the water.
00:44:17.000The water hits the steam, or it hits the nuclear plant somehow or another, the fusion, the energy, heats up the water, and that powers the generators.
00:44:28.000It's way more primitive than I thought it was.
00:44:30.000I thought it was somehow or another extracting the energy from the nuclear power.
00:45:10.000And so they don't know, and honestly a lot of it is theoretical, they don't even know where it is right now because it's melted through its containment hole.
00:45:19.000So it's going further and further into the earth.
00:53:37.000But like, you know, some animals, when they get too crazy, they stop the season thing, and they just say, you can do whatever the fuck you want.
00:54:10.000Okay, so we did a tour in South Africa, and we were driving from Cape Town to Johannesburg, or driving, no, driving around Johannesburg, and there is a guy, pretty much every 20 miles or so, that is employed by the state,
00:54:26.000that walks around with a whip, and he whips baboons off the street because they fuck with people's cars.
00:54:32.000Baboons are little fucking thugs, man.
00:54:35.000They'll break into your car and take all your CDs and break them and piss all over your car and fuck your shit up and just leave it there.
01:00:27.000But my point being that when there's less people that are clogging up the world, you're not constantly being slowed down everywhere you go by a high volume of people, I think you appreciate them more.
01:00:39.000Do you feel that there's an overabundance of Maybe, kind of like what we were talking about before the show, not to say any names, but creative people that are getting in the way of maybe people that have a genuine voice.
01:00:52.000Oh, people that have figured out a way to exist in the system even though they suck?
01:01:05.000You know, we were talking about a specific example of a comedian that we know that sucks, that somehow or another has carved out some sort of a small life in Hollywood while being incredibly bad.
01:02:28.000Because the one guy who's the really funny, creative guy is kind of dysfunctional and can't really do it on himself, can't type or something like that.
01:02:34.000And so they have these two men teams and they're monsters.
01:04:23.000I think it's happened before, but it's a nepotism thing.
01:04:27.000People that are really good at networking in show business, like as producers or as executives maybe more so than anything else.
01:04:35.000But as far as people that are producing, like writers or something like that, not really.
01:04:39.000See, my biggest fear is, and I can't talk about the network or anything, but this is obviously getting optioned into something, and one of my biggest fears is being afflicted with shitty writers.
01:05:03.000They're just going, no, we'll find you a writer.
01:05:05.000Which is fine, because maybe this particular person, whoever they decide to choose, or people, will actually produce a teleplay that's amazing and take what I've done.
01:05:20.000But I'm also worried that then it's gonna come back and it's gonna be a piece of shit and it's gonna take all the heart and soul that I put into it and just make it sterile.
01:05:35.000It's also hard when you're dealing with...
01:05:38.000It's a huge process when you're dealing with more than one person.
01:05:41.000Because you're dealing with more than one vision.
01:05:44.000I mean, I found that even on the sci-fi show that I did, there was people that were saying, we should do it like this, or we should do it like that.
01:05:50.000And there's all these different points of view, and a lot of times that fucks things up.
01:05:57.000Because his deal is basically, they said, we're not going to give you any money, but you can do whatever the fuck you want and we'll air it.
01:06:03.000Well, they give him money, but it was such a smart thing on their part to trust.
01:06:08.000Like, here you get a guy who's a comedic genius, and you say, well, what do you do about this?
01:06:22.000The things that have become successful from the internet, like your videos, are all things that you've created on your own and they've found their audience.
01:06:28.000And that's really what someone needs to understand.
01:06:30.000Like, you got to be famous from the internet.
01:06:34.000You got your, I found out about you, from your work.
01:06:37.000From your mind, then pushed out to the universe.
01:06:41.000And you put it together, you filmed it, like this pancake wrap thing that everybody knows about.
01:07:37.000It just got to the point where I had to just start hammering screwdrivers like half and half orange juice and vodka because I kept fucking that part up.
01:08:58.000But I found that the internet is, you know, in particular, like what Google is doing right now, trying to destroy network TV with Google Fiber.
01:09:08.000I found a couple years ago, and where this is all from, where Bennett is coming from, is that we're kind of all as artists, Taking control back and You know like you do with this podcast what I do with my videos what I did with my blog and we Create all this shit that they you know the suits will try to take and repackage for networks And I think that the thing with Louie is they let one through that didn't have to go through the filter of all the Executives
01:09:39.000and the suits and that's why it's so fucking awesome.
01:09:41.000Yeah It's because they said, alright, we're just going to let this guy do it.
01:09:44.000Well, look at what you're doing, right?
01:09:46.000And look at how would you have done that if you had a bunch of people telling you what to do?
01:09:56.000And I think that's why there's so many voices that are emerging because we're getting these singular, very creative voices that are coming, you know.
01:10:30.000Well, they would be like, we've done studies and...
01:10:34.000Oh, that's, well, that's one of the things, like, in one of the projects I have is I'm very certain that it's gonna have to go through a fucking focus group.
01:11:57.000It was a slapstick, over-the-top comedy where Edie Falco had a fucking machine gun and her daughter was trying to climb into the window at night and she's out there with an AK-47 pointing it at her.
01:12:08.000Yeah, because Meadow was trying to sneak back.
01:13:02.000It's hard to get someone to be willing to let you do your thing and put it on TV, but that's the only way it's ever going to be your thing.
01:13:10.000It's something you have to go through.
01:13:12.000It's just hard to do it on a place like FX. But you could do it on Vimeo.
01:14:22.000And then I have one where I use my phone, which is a program called Everyday Looper.
01:14:31.000And you're doing all this by just pressing the lube machine and making noises with a hair dryer, and for people who are listening to this at home, going, what the fuck am I listening to?
01:15:35.000And basically I used this thing called Apogee where I could plug it into my phone and record an acoustic guitar and then I made a lot of noises with my mouth and just looped them, whistled, harmonized with the whistle and then I did a song over it.
01:15:48.000And I just have found that in 2013, it's not enough.
01:15:55.000Especially if you're not going to get radio play and you're not going to get on MTV. If you want to stand out, you have to use new forms of making songs.
01:16:03.000Use technology, hair products, whatever it is.
01:16:08.000You have to do things that are pushing the envelope.
01:16:12.000We've already written every song we can possibly write with all the instruments that we have.
01:16:16.000So what I'm trying to do is incorporate pancakes or incorporate my iPhone or incorporate hair products, whatever it is that's going to push the envelope and make it stand out a little bit more.
01:18:00.000This was about when Sandy Hook happened.
01:18:04.000Because I'm from Kansas City, so I'm 20 minutes away from Topeka, Kansas, where the Westboro Baptist Church is.
01:18:10.000And we've experienced for our whole lives the Phelps family, the Roper family, always protesting, you know, like if a soldier dies in Afghanistan and they have a funeral for him, they will protest it and say that God is the reason that it happened because America is a fag-enabling country.
01:18:30.000So Sandy Hook happened, and all the children were executed, and they were gonna go out there and protest the fucking candlelight vigil for all the children that were shot in that tragedy.
01:18:44.000So I made a song, but see, I'm very stern and austere, and I don't like to make songs if I feel I'm benefiting off of a tragedy.
01:18:56.000I was getting ready to have a baby in two months.
01:18:59.000So it was just something that I really connected with.
01:19:02.000And I kind of had that idea laying around of using my phone and the whistle and the guitar, so then I just put the lyrics over it.
01:19:09.000And I actually, one of the greatest accomplishments of that song is I met and I'm now friends with Megan Phelps Roper, who is the most outspoken of the Westboro Baptist Church up until about a year ago, where she decided that she no longer agreed with the ideals she was indoctrinated with and left the church and is now exiled from the church.
01:19:36.000She argued with Kevin Smith a lot on Twitter and made a lot of YouTube videos and websites to promote the Westboro Baptist Church and everything they stand for.
01:20:19.000And she wrote me a very, very long email that said, I just wanted to know if you would forgive me and I wanted to apologize to you for anything that I ever said.
01:20:31.000But she saw that video and just said it hit home and I miss my family a lot and I've been exiled by them and we've developed a friendship over it.
01:21:00.000But just the idea that you could grow up in an environment like that and be indoctrinated into that thinking is very real.
01:21:06.000There's children right now that, if they're protesting, which I'm sure that they are, have signs that say, you know, American troops dying is a blessing from God because America is a fag-enabling country.
01:21:44.000Population of evangelists and where I live and that's maybe one of the reasons why I stay because I'm not around a bunch of like Progressive creatives.
01:21:52.000I'm around against very volatile Non-tolerant people intolerant people and that's why you stay it's maybe one of the reasons because I feel like it fuels Some of the stuff that I do and I'm in a different environment than a lot of musicians and writers are So it gives you a different perspective.
01:22:23.000Well, I think because of the internet, we've talked about this on the show many times before, that I think there's pockets of cool people all over the place.
01:22:53.000This woman, I'm sure, had a lot of it had to be fueled by her media appearances and the feedback that she got from that, but a lot of it had to be fueled by the internet itself.
01:23:03.000Small town kids all across America that get to listen to podcasts now and read blogs and get to watch documentaries on their computer and be turned on to something on Twitter where they never would have had access to that.
01:23:14.000Oh, before they were so isolated and all they heard was the ideals that were shoved down their throats constantly.
01:23:19.000So I think that it's a great thing for just the evolution of the youth mind because they're going to be able to break away a lot earlier.
01:23:28.000I came up in a fucking Presbyterian family.
01:24:13.000I lost my mother and I think what that forced me to do, and this is We didn't have a whole lot of internet access for the information that we do now, but what it forced me to do was just confront the idea that religion exists solely predicated upon the idea that people are afraid of death and no longer existing.
01:24:32.000And because we have no ability to explain what has happened up until this point.
01:24:36.000And, you know, history becomes very murky the further you go back.
01:27:00.000Like, what you're seeing when you're having a psychedelic experience, it doesn't mean you went to another dimension, even though it feels like another dimension.
01:27:06.000It doesn't mean you're talking to intelligent entities that give you the secret of life and the secret of happiness.
01:27:13.000Whether or not you really are or are not traveling to other dimensions when you're on psychedelics, the experience is exactly the same.
01:27:21.000So it really is as if, whether or not it's true, but it is as if you are traveling to another dimension and interacting with intelligent beings.
01:27:30.000And intelligent beings that give you truth and honesty and see through all your bullshit and see through your behavior and can explain How to live this life in a happy way to you.
01:27:42.000And if you listen to them, it actually works.
01:27:44.000It doesn't mean it's not a figment of your imagination.
01:27:47.000But the point is that even if it really is just your imagination, there's no difference in the actual experience itself than if it was really happening.
01:27:59.000But do you think that because when people talk about like when I smoked DMT the one time that I did and it was Spellbinding.
01:28:07.000I mean fucking when you talk about going to another dimension you really do and I don't think it's it's like a figment of your imagination I just think you enter parts of your consciousness that you are unable to access unless you're unless you do hallucinogens.
01:28:23.000I've come to the understanding that there's a lot of people that try to define psychedelic experiences and they try to say, well, this is what's happening.
01:28:30.000A lot of them are really intelligent people who are skeptics and they're debunking the psychedelic experience.
01:28:39.000I've come to the realization that no one knows.
01:28:41.000No one knows and no one will know unless we have a much, much, much deeper understanding of We're good to go.
01:29:01.000Then maybe they'll have a deeper understanding of what exactly the psychedelic experience is.
01:29:06.000But until right now, what we know is there's some chemicals, they pass through the brain-blood barrier, and then this really unpredictable pattern of images and experiences and feelings come up, and we don't really know what it is.
01:29:18.000But we do know that those experiences also happen when you're about to die.
01:29:22.000We know that those experiences happen in people that are going through near-death experiences.
01:29:29.000I've always wondered if that's what a near-death experience was, is maybe the body thought it was going to shut down permanently and released all the DMT and then maybe revived, but you still get to experience that.
01:29:56.000One thing I will say about psychedelic experiences, and I've heard you talk about this before, is invariably they always take me and...
01:30:06.000Guide me and hold me over any issues that I have in my life and it's like a fucking giant magnifying glass.
01:30:12.000The last time I ate mushrooms was about three years ago and I had some some issues going on with I felt like I wasn't working hard enough and I wasn't treating some of my friends and contemporaries with enough respect and I ate mushrooms and within like 10 minutes it was on an empty stomach I was having terrible fucking panic attack.
01:30:32.000And, you know, some people call it a bad trip, but I think it's actually a good experience because it was necessary and therapeutic for me.
01:31:07.000Anytime I've ever done them, I found any issues in my life that I had, I could resolve in a healthier way or at least had a better perspective on them.
01:31:14.000Yeah, those uncomfortable moments, it's almost like, you know, you have a subconscious and it just sort of gets filled.
01:31:21.000Your subconscious gets filled with this one bullshit thing that's like...
01:31:48.000So he went down to St. Kitt's and did ibogaine therapy and And what I've heard about ibogaine in comparison to even DMT or acid is it fucking digs, excavates everything that you have from when you were a child even.
01:32:06.000The deepest, darkest shit that you have buried Covered in cobwebs and it brings it all out and it resets your body and people will come away not only not addicted to painkillers, but he stopped smoking cigarettes, stopped drinking caffeinated beverages, stopped eating any artificial sweetener or corn syrup and just experienced a very Terribly painful memories from his childhood and it almost cleansed him out entirely and That's what ibogaine does is it essentially
01:32:37.000resets your entire existence on a physical mental and emotional level and So many people are you know, of course, it's illegal here, but so many people are being saved from opiates and other addictive substances with it Yeah, it's really kind of stupid.
01:33:14.000They can affect so much of the system, whether it be financial, whether it be political, governmental.
01:33:21.000When you incorporate something that can radically change consciousness almost instantly, like your friend immediately kicks cigarettes, kicks oxys, becomes this different person.
01:33:32.000Those type of radical shifts, you apply them to a population, and the number one issue that you're going to have is you're not going to be able to lie to those people as easily anymore.
01:34:25.000The first time I ever ate a pot brownie, it was one of those ignorant experiences where you eat one and you're like, you know, an hour goes by and you're just kind of like, eh, this is kind of mellow, so you eat another one.
01:34:37.000And then two, three hours later, your fucking eyes are dilating.
01:34:47.000We've talked about it ad nauseum on the show before, but in the interest of people that have never heard it before, There's a chemical called 11-hydroxy-metabolite.
01:34:55.000It's produced by your liver when you eat pot.
01:34:57.000It's five times more psychoactive than THC. It's a completely different experience, and it's not available to you psychoactively when you smoke it.
01:35:03.000So that's why, like, I've given brownies to people before, and they go, dude, this was fucking laced, man!
01:36:39.000Because I know that people have done MAO inhibitors, and they've taken them with ayahuasca to try to up the effects, or with mushrooms, or different things to try to up the effects, and it's disastrous.
01:37:06.000It's really an incredible chemical concoction that they figured out how to do in the Amazon where they take the leaves of one plant and the vine of another and they combine the two of them because Monoamine oxidase, which is MAO, kills DMT in the gut.
01:37:22.000So when you eat it, normally it gets squashed before it ever gets into your blood system.
01:37:26.000But this stuff is an MAO inhibitor, so it inhibits...
01:38:52.000Like, recreationally, or a little bit of both?
01:38:55.000I'm sure he's got some sort of a prescription, but he likes to booze with it, too.
01:38:58.000That shit is, you know, that's even more dangerous than, like, opiates or meth, because if you quit those two abruptly, any benzo, I think it's benzodiazepine, Is that how you say it?
01:39:22.000All the popular drugs, you know, Adderall, Oxy, Xanax, these are the things, they're the absolute worst for you, but they're the most popular.
01:40:23.000Well, it would change the world, and it did change the world.
01:40:25.000And there's a reason why, if you go and listen to Buddy Holly, and then you listen to Jimi Hendrix, you're only dealing with a 10-year difference.
01:41:10.000We went from this Father Knows Best Society to, you know, to the Freak Brothers.
01:41:15.000I mean, it really, like, it opened up all these weird doors that they were absolutely terrified.
01:41:18.000Yeah, classically, substances like that make better music.
01:41:22.000And then in certain cases, when artists sober up, their music always suffers.
01:41:27.000In a prime example, I'm not trying to shit on him, but Eminem used to be on a lot of like drugs and mushrooms and made like some amazing shit and then he sobered up and he started becoming like a fucking long distance runner or something.
01:41:45.000I think there's an issue with human beings where there's a wild recklessness that enables a certain amount of creativity to happen and then you also get a bunch of success and then you lock yourself in and you separate yourself from society and you become more disconnected and then you sort of hide from people even more and then the extent of your social experiences shifts.
01:42:13.000Their social experiences shift, and then they take less chances, and something that you really have to fight off.
01:42:20.000Yeah, they become much more comfortable and surround themselves with people that are going to validate maybe shittier, not fleshed out material.
01:43:52.000That's the problem with doing that show.
01:43:54.000I really enjoyed doing that show and sci-fi was really awesome to work with.
01:43:57.000They're great people and I really like those guys.
01:44:00.000The real problem with doing that show is unless you're talking about a real subject like transhumanism, like the idea of technology replacing human bodies and things along those lines, or infectious diseases, something that was real that we actually could study, then you're talking to the same type of people.
01:44:36.000Not only do I believe in it, just because a lot of people think that I didn't believe in it from doing that show.
01:44:41.000They were like, you know, oh, you know, you fucking, you think you're above it, you don't even believe in aliens, you know how stupid that is?
01:44:59.000But he said, infinity is so enormous that not only has everything on Earth in its exact order has happened on another planet somewhere else in the universe, but it's happened an infinite number of times in the exact order.
01:45:55.000The one that I thought was nuts was when he talks about if you go through a black hole and then you watch the fucking universe slowly unfold.
01:47:01.000And ends with fucking pinatas on the top of them.
01:47:03.000And you're like, I don't even know what the fuck you're drawing.
01:47:05.000But they say that that's what their calculations have sort of revealed, is that most likely every galaxy has a gateway to another universe inside of it.
01:48:42.000So imagine knowing all this and having the will to have this type of infinite imagination for what the universe is and then being told that Earth is 7,000 years old and to get your clothes on because we're going to Sunday school.
01:48:55.000I mean, that's what it's like living there.
01:48:58.000Yeah, and the thing is that all those people, they can be cured too.
01:49:04.000If you separated them all and got them all, here it is.
01:50:20.000They think that, you know, a talking snake in a fucking tree in a...
01:50:25.000A woman and a man who ate an apple and then there was, you know, the best part about the Bible, I'm not sure how many times you've read it, but we have Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel and then it jumps like a couple hundred years and it never explains all the fucking incest that had to have happened in order to get to that point.
01:50:45.000Because if you start with two people who have children, I mean, how else are they going to breed humans?
01:50:51.000Yeah, I used to have a whole bit about Adam and Eve.
01:50:58.000And I think that having a son in February is what has made me go, okay, maybe we should get out of here.
01:51:04.000Because I went through it and I know how it affected me, but I'm not sure if I want him to be exposed to some of the shit that I was exposed to.
01:51:12.000Yeah, that's the process of becoming a parent.
01:51:32.000I mean, this is a really small sample that these guys pulled up.
01:51:37.000These paleontologists have found treasures rivaling the bountiful oil, a giant armadillo the size of a Volkswagen, a crocodile bigger than a bus, and a saber-toothed tiger.
01:51:47.000Oil company surveys of the soil have uncovered a trove of fossils dating from 14,000 to 370 million years ago.
01:51:55.000Many of the 12,000 recorded specimens from the different areas are now kept in a tiny office of the Venezuelan Institute for Scientific Research.
01:52:13.000A strong smell of oil fills the room as this guy opens a drawer of a filing cabinet to reveal the tar-stained femur of a giant six-ton mastodon from 25,000 years ago.
01:53:53.000I think they believed that what was going on was that at one point in time, the Earth had a different oxygen level than it has today.
01:54:02.000Like during the Jurassic period, before the meteor impact, it was a much richer, dense environment, and I think it made it easier for animals to grow big, and also easier for them to move around.
01:54:28.000You know, another weird thing about dinosaurs, man, is that we only find, like, what made a fossil.
01:54:35.000When you really stop and think about how difficult it is to actually make a fossil, especially in an area where something is eating everything.
01:54:42.000I mean, if you're living in the ancient dinosaur days, how long did a body sit around before somebody fucking chewed it down?
01:57:11.000I've heard that T-Rex was a scavenger.
01:57:12.000They don't know that, though, for a fact.
01:57:14.000They're still trying to figure it out because they also have to take into consideration the fact that the bodies could move differently then because the oxygen level was different.
01:57:23.000The problem they have with it is they look at the body of that thing and they go, how fucking big is that?
01:57:28.000And they're also trying to figure out how it walked because there's other speculations that they would...
01:58:28.000Well, then the fucking hyena goes and starts barking and, like, 40 hyenas come from the mountains and then they go and fuck these lions up.
01:59:35.000She like twisted her ankle and these hyenas that had been listening to her and following her directions couldn't resist and just dove on her and grabbed ahold of her calf and clamped down on her.
02:00:41.000Or that up to 100 different species alone go extinct per day in the rainforest.
02:00:47.000Because there's so many different pods of the rainforest where just an isolated species could be living, like a mutant grasshopper or something, and they go extinct every single day.
02:00:58.000Yeah, when they find something like this...
02:01:03.000Crazy Venezuelan Jurassic Park type thing and they find all these new animals.
02:01:07.000It's like you really have to wonder how many of these have not been found.
02:01:11.000They found that Hobbit guy just a few years ago.
02:02:57.000The photographer that took the picture, Jose Carlos, has admitted that the tribe has in fact been known about since 1910. He created the hoax in order to call attention to the dangers of the logging industry.
02:03:30.000You know, I mean, there could be a small island with those little fucking hobbit people, like you were saying.
02:03:34.000Well, that's what they're saying, is that this Homo floriensis, that's the actual animal, the actual human being that existed.
02:03:42.000It was three feet tall, and they lived off the island of Flores in Indonesia.
02:03:47.000Well, there's an animal that, or a thing, that they call the Orang Pendek.
02:03:51.000That these locals have been describing for decades.
02:03:54.000And it's exactly like this hobbit thing.
02:03:57.000Little three foot tall human being that until when they discovered this, I think they discovered it in like, I want to say like 2003 or something.
02:04:51.000I think it's very possible this thing is real.
02:04:54.000The animal has allegedly been seen and documented for at least 100 years by forest tribes, local villagers, Dutch colonists, and Western scientists and travelers.
02:05:04.000Consensus among witnesses is that the animal is a ground-dwelling bipedal primate that is covered in short fur.
02:05:11.000And stands between 30 and 60 inches tall.
02:05:35.000That's even, that's, you know, so recent.
02:05:40.000There's so much shit we don't know about what was here.
02:05:42.000It's kind of weird when you stop and think about it.
02:05:44.000You live your life and you're just kind of going on momentum, going to school, graduating, having a family, doing your thing.
02:05:52.000And then all around you is this world that has sort of been established and you have this idea of what it is and, oh, you know, there used to be the pilgrims and they came here.
02:06:01.000When you really start getting the big picture of how recently we got here, how much change has taken place, how 200, 300 years ago there was fucking nobody here!
02:06:31.000A lot of the American Indians before the Europeans came, they were fucking just complete, like, nomadic, tribal people, bows and arrows, wandering around, persistent hunting sometimes.
02:07:05.000I'm going to try to say this in a way that's going to make as much sense as possible, but there's a feeling I get sometimes when I get really high and I start contemplating things, especially if I get in the tank.
02:07:14.000I get this feeling like something's coming.
02:07:17.000I get this feeling like as a society, as a culture, we're going to be overwhelmed by a new version of what we're experiencing now.
02:07:25.000A new version of technology that's shaping our lives right now.
02:07:28.000But a version that's so immersive and so that it drags us into it and makes us become a part of it so deeply that we may never have a life like this again.
02:07:39.000And sometimes I really like take into account the life that we do live.
02:07:43.000That you can just shut off your phone.
02:07:44.000That you can't just get in your car, turn the radio off, and just hear the engine as you drive up Mulholland and do whatever the fuck...
02:08:15.000I mean, I think we're closer to it than probably most people do.
02:08:18.000I mean, I think they could probably do that.
02:08:20.000We could probably do some variation of that now.
02:08:23.000Well, I think you and I may be a little more in tune to it because we spent so much time using the Internet.
02:08:28.000Both benefited from it, being shocked by it, but seeing the experiences, the amount of shit that you interact with because the Internet is so different than our parents.
02:08:42.000We have access to everything at the snap of a finger.
02:08:45.000And there's this perception that the world has gotten worse and is a darker, more exploitative place.
02:08:52.000And I don't necessarily believe that's true.
02:08:54.000I just believe that we're exposed to every facet, every artery of the world now.
02:08:59.000And we just now see how sick of a place it is.
02:09:03.000And it's made us hyper-connected to everything that's always happened here.
02:09:07.000And when our parents were here and before the internet, they didn't have that type of access.
02:09:12.000They lived in more of a Pleasantville type of bubble.
02:09:15.000And it's terrifying and fascinating equally.
02:09:20.000Well, I have a love-hate relationship with what's going on right now with our culture as far as the influence of very aggressive, progressive people.
02:09:31.000Whether it is feminists, like radical feminism, or whether it's...
02:09:38.000I'll make fun of that stuff a lot, but there's a part of me that recognizes that what we're seeing, whether it's radical feminism or fighting against transphobia or fighting against homophobia or any of these things, what we're seeing is a culture that's become aware of the imbalances in a way that's never been possible before.
02:10:00.000There's a level of communication that's never been possible before.
02:10:03.000Massive communities of online people who are Whether they're progressive or feminists or anti-transphobic or transgender supportive, they've formed these aggressive communities that sometimes are a bit misguided in their approach for attacking people for beliefs that they believe,
02:10:21.000whether it's humor or whatever they feel like doesn't...
02:10:24.000I've read this blog where this one person was attacking all transphobic humor online.
02:10:33.000Part of me was like, okay, I see what she's doing, or she's trying to expose what she feels is gross behavior, but she's exposing it, and she's saying humor, and she's saying that it's lazy, and it's this and that.
02:10:49.000And that's when I got to go, okay, look, everybody's funny.
02:12:09.000I found that Nioxin, because I have male pattern baldness too, I just wear a hat and grow it out back here so it looks like I'm full of shit.
02:13:38.000And if you're gonna call someone transphobic because they make fun of certain trannies, there's a fucking guy who's 50 years old, is 6'5", who's playing women's college basketball.
02:13:45.000If you don't make fun of that, you're an asshole.
02:13:48.000And if he doesn't realize that he looks ridiculous being a 6'5", 50-year-old man competing with 18-year-old girls and pretending he's a girl, or, you know, being a female now, I understand that, but The fact that you get a reset, he did all his college credits, he played all his college sports as a male, but then when you change gender,
02:14:05.000you get a reset, and you're allowed to go in with zero.
02:14:24.000Well, not only that, there's changes, there's absolute changes that take place, but the science that everyone's trying to quote, like the really super progressive people are like, you know, there's good science to support that you really become a woman, you lose your bone density.
02:14:39.000Not only that, the amount of science that you are getting is all coming from either transgender doctors, Or people who are involved in the transgender procedure or monitoring what happens to a person.
02:14:51.000There's never been a documented study of taking a male athlete that's been a male for 30-plus years, comparing the skills that they learned as a male, by the way, with a completely different muscle structure, completely different bone structure.
02:15:04.000The mechanical frame is different, the shape of the torso is different, the wideness of the shoulders, the size of the hands, the hips, and the reaction time.
02:16:28.000I wish I could wear a fucking purse, but I get mocked.
02:16:32.000I think the love-hate relationship that I'm talking about is that people are realizing that they do have a say because of this new electronic media, because of the fact that you can...
02:16:43.000We post a blog that starts a debate and exposes people to these ideas.
02:16:50.000Here's one of them that's been coming up a lot recently.
02:16:53.000And it's that having sex with a drunk person is rape.
02:17:55.000What they're implying by all the other corroborating stories is that he likes to get women drunk.
02:18:01.000And there was another woman who said that she met him at a party and he kept her wine glass full and she got drunker than she ever used to and she was really embarrassed by that and somehow or another she blames him for the fact that she got drunk.
02:18:13.000But they're trying to isolate a pattern that this guy does, which is apparently get women drunk and have sex with them.
02:18:20.000And my point is, first of all, there's a broad spectrum of what is drunk.
02:18:25.000And if you say that having sex with anyone who's drunk is rape, what if they have one drink and they're kind of tipsy and they get horny and they love you and they're attracted to you?
02:19:03.000Yeah, they're lying on the bed, blacking out, and you're taking their pants off, I think that's right.
02:19:06.000But I think it's hard to quantify, you know, if they have six shots and a beer, if they have an alcohol tolerance that's through the roof, I mean, how do you discern between what their alcohol tolerance is and how much they can handle?
02:20:58.000And in that argument, they force the dialogue, which I think is brilliant.
02:21:02.000And it's a legit dialogue, and it's an important subject, because there are people that do drug people and take advantage of people.
02:21:07.000But to call any time two consenting adults Dude, this woman on Twitter literally had a campaign and a blog post about it saying that people are sad on Twitter when they found out that they're rapists.
02:21:41.000I don't agree with it, but it's fascinating that it's made people angry, it started this debate, it's got people talking, and that puts the energy on this very real issue.
02:21:50.000But another guy had an incredible point, like, how could it possibly be that that's the only time where you're not responsible for your actions is sex?
02:21:57.000If I get you drunk and then you decide to get in a car and drive home, is it my responsibility?
02:22:03.000If you come over my house and we're both the same age, we drink wine together, and you get in your car and you slam into a tree, did I force you to drive drunk?
02:22:21.000I got in trouble when I was 17 years old.
02:22:24.000I got adjudicated of two felonies, which basically means I was 17 and not old enough to be convicted of them.
02:22:31.000And we were at a party on the first night of spring break at a house party with a bunch of my friends.
02:22:37.000I went to an alternative school, so they were a little more edgy, like Mexican and black gangster kids, and we were all there.
02:22:44.000There was a car on the driveway and a girl came into the party and said there's two skinheads outside in this car.
02:22:50.000So 15, 16 of these dudes went outside and surrounded this car and about four metal TPX bats came out of this garage and they beat all the windows out of the car, jumped on the windshield, cracked it, Got the guys out,
02:23:12.000So, there was some, like, SWAT team test mission going on about two blocks away, and they heard what was going on.
02:23:18.000So, we're all standing there watching these kids beat the ever-living fuck out of these skinheads, and I don't even know if they were skinheads, but...
02:23:26.000All of a sudden, like, 20, 30 cops roll up in bulletproof vests with fucking black fatigues on and machine guns and shit.
02:23:46.000And I never understood, because our argument was, well, if I would have pulled my phone out to call the police, maybe one of the kids with the bat would have hurt me or hit me.
02:23:57.000You know, it's very convoluted and fucked up.
02:24:11.000If someone's having a party at your house and you're all drinking together and maybe you might not even know but Mike had some whiskey and you didn't see him and he got fucked up and you thought he only had one glass of wine you'd be fine.
02:24:21.000I don't think that's aiding and abetting.
02:24:23.000I think if you're in a bar I think it becomes an issue.
02:24:25.000But I think my point was if you see that they're drunk and then they get into a vehicle and you don't Proactively try to prevent them or try to keep them there.
02:25:06.000If you're at a party and you have some drinks with someone, and someone keeps pouring you drinks, and then you try to accuse them of getting you drunker than you normally would, and you use that as sort of a corroboration that this guy likes to get women drunk, like, man, you've made some fucking crazy leaps there.
02:25:31.000The thing I like about it, it does open up this debate of people being fucking creepy and drugging people and treating them as less than humans so they can just shoot loads into them.
02:25:41.000So you like, as long as all of these issues have an open and somewhat passionate dialogue going on, that's more...
02:25:50.000These progressive blogs, the free-thinking blog this guy puts it on, they stifle even civil debates so quickly and harshly.
02:25:58.000Anybody who thinks that this Michael Shermer guy is being unfairly accused and he doesn't have his day in court and what about his point of view?
02:26:04.000You're supposed to be skeptical and yet you've taken this...
02:26:07.000Second-hand account of a situation and posting it as evidence without talking to the other person.
02:26:13.000And everyone knows that personal experiences and the memories of personal experiences are extremely inaccurate.
02:26:19.000Not only that, there's a lot that happens when people sober up.
02:26:22.000They start attaching a bunch of remorse and all kinds of other shit to things.
02:26:26.000And sometimes people have a psychological ailment where it forces them to cause other people or blame other people for their own shortcomings.
02:26:35.000We all know a lot of people that do that.
02:27:05.000I think he's also fucking up and showing why he did it in the first place by stifling any civil discourse on his own blog, calling them trolls and saying they're too stupid to enter into this debate.
02:27:16.000There's all sorts of ad hominem attacks on anybody who has even a civil disagreement.
02:27:20.000I mean, the people that they've shown...
02:27:23.000A couple people have made videos of this showing how ridiculous the banning of people that disagree with no disrespectful language at all, just banned, you know, from this guy's board.
02:27:33.000Everyone is like super ultra supportive.
02:27:35.000And then I've looked on other boards and it's entirely the opposite.
02:27:39.000Everyone is completely skeptical of this and saying that this is white knight horseshit to the extreme and that this guy's an attention whore and this is not skeptical.
02:27:50.000There's nothing skeptical or free thinking about this.
02:31:04.000It's also pretentious to say it's so stimulating, but it is kind of stimulating.
02:31:08.000It's stimulating, it's fascinating, and it's all like bubbling up around us and changing at a rate that I don't think we're even recognizing, man.
02:31:15.000I think the rate is so rapid and so massive since 93, 94, whenever the internet became popular.
02:31:50.000And all these different people, whether I agree with them or not, whether I think they're flawed or not, and a lot of them are flawed, and I'm flawed too, but this input and these new ideas that are encouraging all this debate and all this discussion...
02:33:01.000For example, Russell Simmons just launched a YouTube channel called All Deaf Digital, and he's essentially throwing millions of dollars all over the place to try to beef up his internet presence and be a part of this.
02:33:17.000And I don't think he's going to be very successful doing it.
02:33:25.000And the early 90s when he could promote in New York City and wheat paste flyers and posters to walls and throw parties.
02:33:35.000And he doesn't understand the Internet and how it works.
02:33:39.000And, you know, the Internet requires a lot of humility and patience and constantly evolving and constantly engaging in dialogue, creative dialogue, being free thinking.
02:33:50.000And I don't think that people like that understand that.
02:34:24.000There's a place called Wyandotte County in Kansas City.
02:34:28.000And it's like this kind of like white trash, lower middle class area of Kansas.
02:34:35.000It's a very odd place for them to do this.
02:34:37.000But this is where they've beta tested Google Fiber and everybody in the county has it.
02:34:42.000And essentially what they're doing is for $150 a month they connect their fiber cable to your house and you get a thousand megabyte per second up and down.
02:34:54.000You get 700 something original YouTube channels that are directly accessible by your television and then you get all the network TV channels and a phone.
02:35:03.000And essentially what they're trying to do is topple over network TV. So about a year ago, Google threw like 70 billion dollars at like 700, 800 different people to create original content on YouTube.
02:35:19.000Pharrell Williams, CNN, all these different people got these billion dollar investments and they said, make us new content.
02:35:27.000Make us content that is gonna shut down cable TV. And that's what everybody's doing right now.
02:35:32.000So, it's a fucking very fascinating and very exciting time.
02:35:36.000I'm waiting for someone to come along and do, like, a Game of Thrones online.
02:35:54.000And that's what I love about all of this.
02:35:56.000When I was coming up, I knew that I was maybe a little too weird, maybe a little too different to ever have a song on the radio.
02:36:04.000I don't have the sex appeal that some of these preppy, douchebag rappers have, or I'm not edgy enough or whatever it is.
02:36:12.000So I always knew I was going to have to connect with people one by one and build my own empire.
02:36:18.000In the late 90s, this was just creating my own music at my house, sending off a thousand dollars, getting a thousand CDs manufactured and selling them out of the trunk of my car.
02:36:28.000And one by one, building my own fan base.
02:36:31.000Then as the 2000s progressed and the internet got bigger, I realized people are getting online to listen to and find out about new music.
02:36:39.000So I jumped on that shit a long fucking time ago.
02:36:42.000Never sought out trying to make a radio single.
02:36:44.000Never tried to get on a major record label.
02:36:47.000I've had major record label deal offers in the past couple years that have turned down because the money isn't good enough.
02:36:52.000But I always knew that- Was that a humble brag?
02:37:04.000So, I just always knew that independent music, with the internet, when Sean Parker created Napster and we realized, found out that they could take a very heavy, big-sized WAV file and compress it down to a 3 or 4 megabyte MP3. That was the death of the music business as we knew it then.
02:37:27.000There was no way record stores were gonna stay open.
02:37:30.000There was no way records and CDs were gonna sell like they used to.
02:37:33.000And it was only a matter of time before the internet got more exposure, got faster, people got on new computers and could download music.
02:37:40.000And once that happened, it changed the game, completely revolutionized it.
02:37:44.000So all these major record labels and all these huge platinum selling artists were completely shut down.
02:37:51.000And while we're not as big as some of these huge artists, Backstreet Boys or whoever the fuck, people like Immortal Technique, who I know you've had on here...
02:39:13.000And that's what I've used YouTube and Facebook and Twitter to do is just get my weird music out there and my weird blogs out there and a lot of people like them.
02:39:23.000And that's what's so fucking cool about it.
02:39:29.000We're both a part of that sort of thing where people found something that they just liked.
02:39:34.000I've done a lot of different things, whether it's Fear Factor or News Radio or the UFC or what have you, but I don't really use any of those things to promote this podcast.
02:39:53.000Do you feel that from your days on Fear Factor to now, that you've had several stages of reimagining your image or maybe the people, you've exposed yourself in different platforms so people learned more about who you are.
02:40:09.000Because when I used to see you on Fear Factor, I would have never guessed that you would fucking get in an isolation tank and take four grams of mushrooms and think about, you know, all of us having a collective conscious or something.
02:40:20.000But then the more I learned about you through YouTube, because you were on YouTube real early, and I would just see these videos and be like, dude, this dude is dope.
02:40:27.000And he's into like some cerebral shit.
02:40:29.000And do you feel like this has helped people understand you better as a person?
02:40:43.000Fucking meathead douchebag making people eat bugs.
02:40:45.000I wouldn't want to listen to me talk about anything philosophical or anything that I think of, but...
02:40:51.000One of the things about doing something like a Fear Factor where you gain financial freedom is you also gain the freedom to speak your mind because you're not worried about the repercussions.
02:41:00.000I always had stand-up comedy and I made money on Fear Factor and then I've always had the UFC. I don't have to worry about speaking my mind and that has allowed me to have some freedom and then doing a podcast allowed me to have a platform where I get to express myself.
02:41:18.000People fucking, whatever weirdness No one's perfect.
02:41:23.000We change from day to day depending upon our stress level and what emotional shit we're dealing with, our personal life, our business life, or what have you.
02:41:33.000We all have a lot of variation in our behavior.
02:41:37.000But when you talk to someone or you hear someone talk for hours and hours and hours and hours over the course of X amount of years, you get an idea of who the fuck they are.
02:41:51.000And in that, I think there's never been a vehicle ever that's allowed people to get to know people like they can off of the internet, like they can from podcasts.
02:42:08.000You couldn't see their flaws and people gravitated towards that.
02:42:12.000And now it's almost like people are more drawn towards people that do have flaws that they sometimes disagree with.
02:42:19.000It's like an elevated version of what a rock star used to be because a rock star used to be this ethereal, creative, sexual being that there could do no wrong.
02:42:27.000But I think that we elevated beyond that and now people want to know that This motherfucker might say some shit that I'm going to disagree with sooner.
02:42:36.000Like Louie, how he can't stop eating and he's chubby and a little out of shape.
02:43:38.000Didn't have any courage or had social anxiety or just really had no self-esteem.
02:43:43.000I think it's super important to talk about those times so that people can realize like, oh, this isn't a guy who was successful always and always been confident and always, he's different than me.
02:43:54.000I can't relate to that kind of thinking.
02:43:56.000No, I used to get nervous talking to the bank teller.
02:43:59.000I'd get tongue-tied going to the bank, especially when I was broke and I was depositing a $50 check or something like that.
02:44:06.000I'd get nervous, like legitimately nervous.
02:44:08.000Yeah, no, I think that that's maybe one of the things is as a rap artist, people have connected to my shit because I all talk about, you know, my insecurities or I'll become vulnerable.
02:44:20.000And I'm a rapper when that's not supposed to happen in rap music.
02:45:44.000When Chick-fil-A had that whole anti-gay thing, whatever, I did a wrap video where I remade a Chick-fil-A sandwich and used the recipe so people didn't have to go to Chick-fil-A and support their anti-gay causes.
02:45:55.000So they hit me up and they were like, we love your food wraps.
02:46:01.000To make like a strawberry banana smoothie or something healthy and promote healthy eating and do like a cool fast wrap and, you know, we'll fly you out.
02:46:10.000You'll do it for free because it's great exposure and you'll love it and you're excited about this.
02:49:03.000I can't find the name of it, but it was a really good movie.
02:49:06.000And it's the movie where Terry Hatcher looked the hottest.
02:49:10.000Terry Hatcher was so ridiculously hot back then that a girl that I was dating actually got mad that I said she was hot, which I always find to be...
02:51:51.000Yeah, I think that it's gonna be done now because he knows about it and only text messages me to ask if any girls have hit me up to have sex with him.
02:53:51.000I'm so happy that guys like you exist, that you've figured out a way to do this, that you've put it all out there, you've got a great message, you're a cool motherfucker, and much love and much success.
02:55:40.000One of the things that happened with doing this TV show, I haven't been doing as much stand-up as I should, and I had one rusty set this weekend, Saturday Night Late Show.