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00:01:05.000And the way it's set up, it's basically point and click.
00:01:09.000If you know how to use normal programs, like if you can open Microsoft Word, if you can go to a website and navigate your way around, you can figure out how to use Squarespace.
00:02:29.000And the idea behind Lumosity is the same idea behind exercise.
00:02:34.000Use your mind and use your mind in very specific ways.
00:02:37.000If you just exercise like a knucklehead, you don't know what you're doing, you're not going to get any results.
00:02:42.000The best way to get results out of exercise is to engage in a program that's specifically designed to make your body work better.
00:02:49.000And that's what they've done with the human brain.
00:02:52.000They've created a bunch of games, and these games are so specific that you actually can enter in different parameters.
00:02:59.000Like, you get started, and they ask you, okay, what out of your memory are you trying to improve?
00:03:05.000Whether you're trying to recall certain names, whether you're trying to learn new things, whether you're trying to keep track of several ideas at the same time.
00:03:14.000So you enter in which one of those things applies.
00:03:43.000And what they've done is essentially set up a bunch of fun games that you can play, and these games actually increase your memory, make your focus, your mental speed better, make your focus more in tune,
00:05:16.000Go to Onnit.com and check out all the things we have to offer.
00:05:20.000The way we best describe Onnit is it is a human optimization website.
00:05:25.000We try to make available for you everything that we enjoy.
00:05:30.000By me and we, I mean Aubrey and myself and all the folks that own Onnit.
00:05:37.000The way we have it set up, Anything we find that's good, whether it's the best hemp protein powder we can find, whether it's the best Himalayan salt or killer bee honey or MCT oil.
00:05:52.000We sell the Bulletproof stuff because I think his stuff is the best.
00:05:55.000I think he has the best coffee and I think he has the best MCT oil.
00:05:58.000I've listened to his philosophy on acquiring products and I believe in it.
00:06:05.000We try to find the best stuff that we can get online as far as strength and conditioning equipment, whether it's battle ropes, and we try to sell them to you as reasonably as possible.
00:06:13.000We're not trying to rip anybody off, and improving of that, all the supplements on Onnit.com, like ShroomTech and AlphaBrain, they all have a 30-pill, 90-day money-back guarantee, which means If you try AlphaBrain and you go,
00:06:30.000you know what, this thing didn't do shit for me, you get your money back, you don't even have to send the pills back in.
00:06:35.000Like, the idea behind it is to make sure that nobody feels ripped off.
00:06:38.000The last thing I want is anybody feeling like they get fucked.
00:09:17.000I've definitely turned down more things than I've accepted for podcast sponsors because there's a lot of them that are sketchy or weird websites.
00:09:25.000Well, you believe in your products, right?
00:10:58.000I mean, there's also the problem of there's too much information coming at us on a daily basis.
00:11:03.000You know, there's fucking seven billion people on this planet, and we're just inundated with horror stories, like all throughout the globe, constantly, every day.
00:11:11.000The grossest shit is the shit that we're going to pay attention to the most.
00:11:15.000The most horrifying stories in the news are the ones that we're gonna, they're gonna get the most clicks.
00:11:21.000So, you know, the old adage, if it bleeds, it leads.
00:11:24.000But I think people are interested in that.
00:11:27.000Because people get excited to hear, like, that crazy bad news, or else it wouldn't be the number one news.
00:11:33.000Well, I think it's because it's a part of our past, you know, and it's also like what got us to be in 2013 in the first place is by being scared of everything and staying alive, you know, breeding, keeping moving, staying alive, being terrified of anything that can hurt you.
00:11:49.000But these things can't really hurt us.
00:11:51.000They could hurt us if we're there, but we're not there.
00:11:53.000We're not right next to the volcano as it goes off.
00:11:56.000We're on the other side of the planet.
00:11:57.000Yeah, but they're touching on that fear.
00:11:59.000And then that fear comes up with whatever you just said, any of those above-mentioned things, and then all of a sudden you're like, ah!
00:15:24.000But it's weird that there's a certain group of people that will just openly do that, that will openly try to stop people from marrying each other just because they're the same sex.
00:16:29.000And we also understand what is convincing.
00:16:33.000We understand when words come across well.
00:16:36.000So because you can tell me a true story and it can move me and you can get a very powerful reaction out of me, Right.
00:17:05.000It's basically, if we're honest, you're explaining to me and I'm kind of getting a sense through the words and the definitions that I've got in my head of those words.
00:17:14.000I'm kind of getting a sense of what you're saying.
00:17:16.000So I'm reading and you can tell me stories about your past.
00:17:18.000You can express to me how you feel about things currently.
00:17:21.000You can see it from your point of view, as long as you're being honest.
00:17:25.000But when you start all of a sudden realizing that you don't have to be honest and then realizing that you can kind of manipulate things.
00:18:22.000I mean, it made me worry about the future of life.
00:18:25.000Like, before I went to that school, I was like a happy kid.
00:18:28.000I thought that life was going to be fun.
00:18:30.000And just one year with that cunt and all the other evil fucks that were running that school and just seeing kids get beat How old were you?
00:19:27.000Yeah, but I think it started out with that.
00:19:33.000It probably started out, if you really think about how much is good in Christianity, love your brother, treat others as if they were yourself.
00:19:42.000The core tenets of Christianity, about just the work of Jesus, how he always was with the dregs of society, and he didn't judge people at all, and he tried to heal the sick, all the things that are positive about it.
00:19:56.000You've got to think that there's some basis in religion is like things that people learn that really connect you to the happy life, to the good life, which is the life of love, the life of caring for each other.
00:20:07.000So they figured these things out, but then in writing them down, Back then, especially, it wasn't until the 1500s that people read the Bible on a regular basis.
00:21:17.000It's just because most of the world hasn't caught up yet.
00:21:20.000Just like there was no cell phones in most of the world two decades ago, I think two decades from now, the idea of religion is going to be way, way less common.
00:22:49.000Because of that, it's almost like it was impossible to not have bullshit.
00:22:53.000But if it wasn't for that religion, if it wasn't for a bunch of people that were put in line and scared, this is a terrible idea, but I think it's probably true.
00:23:03.000I don't think we would have made it this far.
00:23:06.000I think people would have been way more barbaric.
00:24:02.000The Aztecs, they killed all the people.
00:24:04.000Upon the completion of the pyramid, they killed all the slaves.
00:24:07.000All the prisoners that were helping them build these awesome buildings, they just cut their hearts out and fucking tossed them to the crowds.
00:25:24.000Have you ever met someone who is really intense and super focused, like some banker-type character, but his son is just a complete waste product?
00:26:11.000It's really close to the United States, and because I work so much in the U.S., it's just like I can commute to my work really easy, and it wasn't a difficult situation.
00:30:17.000Look, I'm telling you, I used to be a woman, and I became a man, and I'm telling you, I think differently, I react differently, my sexual...
00:30:25.000Like, fantasies are differently, and I get it now.
00:32:44.000I blacked out from irony and logic halfway into it.
00:32:48.000But it was the Male Feminist Guide to Dating a Woman.
00:32:51.000And some guy wrote this fucking TLDR, too long, didn't read, massive, multi-fucking-step way to be a male feminist and date women and how to approach each and every scenario like the biggest pussy whoop bitch on the planet.
00:33:10.000That's not cool because not all women are the same.
00:33:12.000Some women like to actually be like dudes and just go have sex and it's not really a big deal and we have to be emotional.
00:37:21.000For me, it has to be something where I'm fighting life or death because I think that those feelings of stress that you get, those are life-death-struggle type things because it's incredibly stressful.
00:37:33.000Even if it's something as silly as a television show, if it's important to you, you're going to get an intense amount of energy focused on that.
00:37:42.000At least my body doesn't know what the fuck is going on in those scenarios.
00:37:46.000It thinks we're going to have to fucking fight with swords or run from dragons.
00:37:51.000And so unless I blow it out, unless I just blow it out to the point where my heart feels like it's going to rip out of my chest, then I don't ever calm down.
00:38:01.000Yeah, no, I think I can relate to that totally.
00:38:03.000I feel so much more calm after I had a hardcore workout.
00:38:07.000Your body is designed, you know, our bodies, the DNA of our bodies is from an animal that was running from jaguars 100,000 years ago, 200,000 years ago, a million years ago.
00:38:17.000There's the same echoes of that primal time when we were so vulnerable and surrounded by predators at all times.
00:38:38.000I mean, they didn't have to do it as much or often.
00:38:41.000And of course, the plus and the minus of testosterone is, the minus is, I mean, they're actually proven that men with larger testicles make shittier fathers.
00:40:42.000If you see, that's not the dirty little secret, it's the dirty obvious secret of bodybuilding.
00:40:48.000If you see one of those guys, those enormous guys that doesn't make any sense, the reason why it doesn't make any sense is because you know in your head, you have a spectrum in your head, okay, well if you're a man and you have testosterone and you lift weights like a crazy fiend, you can get about that big.
00:41:04.000Maybe that big if you've got super special genetics, but what's This.
00:42:36.000When did you know that you, like, the concept of gender identity to someone who doesn't struggle with it is, it's one of those things where you try to wrap your head around it, you try to understand it, but you never, it's like, I always say that a man and woman never really understand each other.
00:42:54.000They get this thing where they accept that this is how you are.
00:42:58.000But I'll never understand what it's like to want a baby in my body.
00:43:03.000I never understand what it's like to have my period.
00:45:59.000Just as temporary as we didn't think we were ever going to be able to communicate with somebody in real time in Australia 150,000 years ago.
00:46:24.000People are already doing the genderqueer thing where they're not saying I'm male or female and then there's like this new kind of thing called they.
00:46:31.000Where they don't want to identify as male or female and they're just they.
00:46:40.000So every time I see her, she used to be a her, but now she's a they, she always has to correct me because I'm always like saying her or she.
00:46:49.000And so how do you, what is the pronoun for that?
00:48:04.000With my education, that's why I always just sort of try to make it as easy as possible for people because I don't really go to that level at this point.
00:48:10.000I want you first to understand that gender is complex, but at the same time it's not.
00:48:32.000Well, gender's complex, but for some people, they don't want it to ever be complex because one of the things that's admirable about a man is a man who doesn't worry.
00:48:42.000What's admirable about a man is a man who's like fucking silent, Clint Eastwood in the movies type, doesn't give a fuck, never thinking about sucking dicks, just out there trying to shoot people.
00:50:21.000It's like it's important to differentiate the difference between a person who's vulnerable because they're honest about their emotions and passionate.
00:50:28.000You know, if you're passionate, like, dude, I cry easy, man.
00:50:45.000I get locked into anything, like if I'm involved in anyone's art, whether it's a song or a movie or anything where you're painting this picture of torture or torment and I can relate to that character.
00:51:08.000And if you don't understand what real fear is, when you actually face it, if you're constantly hiding from your actual emotions and pretending you're not scared when you actually are vulnerable, then when you really are in danger, you're not going to know what the fuck to do.
00:52:30.000He was never shown that it was possible to know who the fuck you were.
00:52:34.000He was imitating this scared, terrified thing in his house, and it took until he separated from him and started having some milestones of his own, graduating high school, graduating college, getting a degree, falling in love, having a relationship, going into business, that he started becoming a man.
00:53:17.000He was very much like that old school kind of guy.
00:53:20.000But I think it actually helped me to become a really good man because I really learned how to focus and be the person that I wanted to be from that.
00:53:41.000Some of us start at minus 30. Other of us, some of us start out at plus 100. And sometimes the plus 100 people are fucked because everything's too goddamn easy.
00:54:13.000And, you know, it allows them to express themselves in this intense, powerful way that someone who grew up in Bel Air isn't capable of doing.
00:54:27.000The reason why people are so mad at that is because they knew that this bitch hadn't suffered at all.
00:54:32.000Like, you're not allowed to sing, you know?
00:54:34.000When you listen to, like, you listen to some old school blues, some Robert Johnson, you listen to it, you're like, this motherfucker was hot, they didn't have air conditioning, They were sitting out there on the porch.
00:54:47.000He was constantly being persecuted by white people.
00:54:51.000Women were trying to have his babies, trying to get the fuck out of town and stay on the road.
00:54:55.000You felt everything in that guy's voice.
00:54:58.000That's the appeal of blues in the first place.
00:55:10.000I had a shit middle part of my life, which actually did help me.
00:55:13.000I always look at that part and I always remember being homeless, doing prostitution on the streets, like all of that really made me be the person as well.
00:55:21.000What time did that start, the shit part?
00:55:23.000That was like later, like in my mid-twenties.
00:55:26.000I was a professional model at one time as a woman and I traveled around Europe and then I just couldn't do it anymore because I was doing so much cocaine and drinking and partying like mad dude like crazy mad and I just crashed.
00:55:38.000You said though that when you were just getting your period and you were young that that's when people started giving you a hard time.
00:55:45.000That wasn't a bad time in your life though?
00:55:47.000Well, yeah, I was in high school still and so then, you know, I started having to deal with the high school thing and like, you know, I'm becoming a girl and I'm attracted to girls You know, and I was a lesbian, I guess, but I felt like a guy.
00:56:02.000And this was, you know, 30 or so more years ago.
00:56:05.000And they didn't even talk about that kind of stuff when I was going to high school.
00:56:09.000So a lot of stuff was going on for me.
00:56:13.000Not that that's a bad thing, but when you're not focused and you start doing those kind of things, it just continues to escalate to hardcore drinking, then the cocaine, then everything just started escalating for me.
00:56:24.000And I got totally out of control for like Since 16 to like maybe 28, I was completely out of control.
00:56:50.000That thing, though, about self-medicating is so common amongst kids that don't It's sad, dude.
00:57:03.000Because we also reinforce that in society, saying, yeah, you're right, you can't be gay, it's completely not okay, or it's weird that you feel like a girl, or it's weird that you feel like a boy.
00:57:13.000So we as a society reinforce those negative feelings constantly.
00:57:16.000You just feel shitty about yourself and you're like, there is no out for me.
01:00:34.000Then I had to go to a bookstore and find this old book and find a doctor in the back that was like for transgender, for women, for men becoming women, they didn't even have anything for guys like me.
01:00:45.000I mean, I was determined to figure out how to do this, and I called this doctor in Hollywood here, and he's like, well, I never worked with a woman who wants to become a man, but why don't you come in?
01:00:54.000And he saved my life, and he's like, you'll be my guinea pig.
01:02:54.000Yeah, and I inject myself, and my life just started to change, and then I decided I needed to get my breasts removed, even though they weren't big.
01:06:13.000Because now you have to look at yourself because you before looked at me like a man and then all of a sudden you see my vagina and you're like...
01:06:20.000Mostly it's males that do that because men are pretty attached to their penis.
01:07:44.000People have become much more understanding and much more supportive My fanbase has grown tremendously in the last, I would say, five years.
01:08:46.000You think it sucks, but you like that kind of music.
01:08:48.000But there's so many commonalities that we sort of inform each other of because the Internet, you kind of go, wait a minute, what's our real problem here?
01:10:29.000When you look at someone and you say something mean, you have to be a psychopath.
01:10:33.000If someone's never done anything to you and you look at them and you say something mean and you see them react and you see it hurt their feelings and it doesn't bother you, you're a broken person.
01:11:24.000If I came into this room right now with an attitude that was not cool, and I was just sitting here waiting for you to talk shit to me, me and you are going to have not as good as a situation going on between us, I don't think, right now.
01:11:39.000I think it would be much— Because I'm coming in with that energy.
01:11:46.000Which a lot of people in my situation tend to have because they don't understand that you have to—people do not understand us.
01:11:53.000And when I come to— Explain to you the situation.
01:11:57.000I have to understand that you don't get it and you already have a preconceived notion about it and you're already judging me and that's okay.
01:12:05.000So I have to come to it with an understanding of that and an understanding that I need to now teach you.
01:12:11.000And the best way to teach somebody is to be happy about it and to let you have your feelings and then hopefully I can win you over with the fact that I'm just a happy dude.
01:14:55.000And that's a huge thing that you're doing really because you're changing that way and that way people think and then those people go to other people.
01:15:06.000So you're sort of like moving that positive energy along that totally line of people And it's only possible for me because I've got those ideas and that vibe and those good thoughts from other people online.
01:15:35.000If you have any sort of an internet presence whatsoever or say anything controversial, which I have both, you're going to have a massive amount of people that want to just push your buttons.
01:17:37.000You want to put your agenda on someone else and they have to – if they don't get it and if they're not on board with you, then they're the bad person.
01:18:34.000So I'm not talking about that, but I get so disturbed when I go online and people who are, whether they're feminists or whether they're skeptics or atheists, Attacking each other.
01:19:35.000Because he uses as corroborating evidence another woman's tale where she met him at a party and he made sure her glass was always full and she got drunker than she normally does.
01:19:46.000And she's literally using this to corroborate what he said, meaning that he got her drunk.
01:19:51.000Completely removing herself from any personal responsibility from actually drinking, being an adult and getting drunk.
01:19:56.000And somehow or another, corroborating the story of the other person.
01:20:58.000So what they've taken, they've taken a hard stance the other way, saying that everyone who has sex with anyone who's drunk is raping them, including women who have sex with drunk men.
01:22:23.000And I think the way he released that information, first of all, he's supposed to be a skeptic.
01:22:29.000And the word skeptic, if you're a skeptic, you understand that the worst piece of evidence that you can possibly receive is personal experience.
01:23:01.000There's this video of him at this conference making all these jokes with this woman saying that she would have to have sex with him if she got these...
01:23:32.000And so he bathes in the warm milk of the adulation of all the people that are super progressive that go along with him.
01:23:38.000Yet he stifles dissent in a very radical way on his forums.
01:23:42.000If you disagree, even if you disagree in a very polite and civil way with him outing this Michael Shermer guy as a supposed rapist for having sex with an intoxicated woman, Even if you disagree in a civil way, he bans you from the forums.
01:23:55.000Oh, and he's an idiot because now he's not open for discussion and it's all about him and his idea.
01:24:16.000He doesn't say the guy's a rapist, but in other posts they talk about rape and that is rape and having sex with someone who's intoxicated is rape.
01:24:25.000But the black and white scale of that is so ridiculous.
01:29:41.000And that's the thing is, with communities a lot of times they censor our speech and they tell us we can't say, and I'm using myself as an example here, I'm not allowed to say certain things because they don't reflect our community.
01:29:55.000But I'm like, but I'm a person first and it is the way I believe and I think it is important for me to speak my mind about certain things.
01:30:01.000We all can't think the same way like we talked about earlier.
01:30:04.000We all have different ways we think things should be And it's only from my own personal experience, but within my specific community, I'm not allowed to say certain words or react to certain things.
01:30:16.000Well, I think for a lot of folks that do feel marginalized or have been marginalized, like, they've fucking, they've hit that, like, the guy from Network.
01:30:25.000I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.
01:30:43.000People wouldn't want to listen to me because I was...
01:30:45.000And I really have to tell you, a lot of the communities are really angry and they alienate people like myself who want to further our acceptance in the world.
01:30:54.000Obviously I want to, but because I don't use the same way driving angry force, Then I'm the bad person.
01:31:03.000I believe, like I said earlier, really getting people to understand.
01:31:06.000You have to educate the people who don't understand us.
01:31:09.000And isn't it funny that like what we were talking about earlier, like weird acronyms that people use and categories that are very specific and then language like privilege that gets used almost as it's like, you know, like you let them know you're speaking the lingo.
01:31:25.000Noam Chomsky actually addressed this because he's a linguist.
01:31:29.000And he was talking about how they're sort of pretending, like a lot of radical progressives, pretending that this is almost scientific because they hear quantum theorists talk in this really strange, ethereal language that no one really understands.
01:31:45.000So they sort of use the same kind of jargon in regards to psychology and sociology, in regards to progressive ideas.
01:32:39.000Cisgender, in Wikipedia, according to Wikipedia, often abbreviated to simply cis, described related types of gender identity where an individual's self-perception of their gender matches the sex they were assigned at birth.
01:33:01.000Being rude or disrespectful, but they felt a need to make their own word because you as a biological person or the straight world have made words for us.
01:33:12.000So it's sort of like we now have our own word for you.
01:33:37.000What do you think about that situation?
01:33:39.000What do you think about, first of all, the fact that she didn't tell people that she used to be a man and got into MMA and fought a bunch of women and beat the shit out of them.
01:36:31.000This one girl who emailed me and thanked me She was telling me that she was getting attacked left and right by so-called progressives because they were calling her a bigot because a trans woman that she didn't know used to be a man fought her and she was pissed off about it because the guy ragdolled her.
01:36:50.000Well, I mean, there's so much more involved in this.
01:37:42.000The mechanical advantages of the male body still exist.
01:37:46.000If you have a man and a woman and they're the same weight and they're the same sort of muscularity, there's still a difference in the frame.
01:37:52.000There's a difference in the shape of the hips.
01:37:54.000There's a difference in the reaction time.
01:38:36.000Because of the frame, the hands, the mechanical advantage, the reaction time, and the consequences.
01:38:42.000Your physical health, the consequences of fighting, you're getting hurt badly.
01:38:47.000And if there's an unfair advantage, and that person uses that unfair advantage, whether it's taking steroids and cheating or taking blood enhancers like EPO, those are all illegal because they change the field.
01:38:58.000Now, there are people that are born with more testosterone.
01:44:17.000Men convert testosterone peripherally to estrogen.
01:44:20.000This is all coming from a doctor who responded to this, Dr. Ramona Krutzit, MD, and as my friend Steph Daniels, A.K.A. Crooklyn, put this article on Bloody Elbow, which is an MMA website about this.
01:44:36.000Where this doctor was detailing advantages that a male to female transgender would have.
01:44:42.000Because the information that is available online is very biased in a lot of ways.
01:44:48.000And the information is coming from people that are supporting transgender women competing against cis women, as you will.
01:44:57.000So here you have a man who is on hormonal blockers to block testosterone but is now taking estrogen, which is going to prevent osteoporosis.
01:45:40.000But what you're showing, at least, is one person who's an expert in the field, a board-certified endocrinologist, who's telling you that, no, this is not true, and that this bone density issue, it takes more than 15 years, and it's a significant advantage that he would enjoy,
01:45:57.000or a male to female would enjoy once she became a she.
01:46:47.000She developed fully into a male with a normal musculature and bone structure.
01:46:50.000She didn't undergo hormone therapy and surgery until she was fully developed as compared to someone who completes therapy and surgery in their adolescence and or early adulthood.
01:47:02.000Men are completely developed by the age of 22 and she didn't start a therapy until several years later than that.
01:51:05.000When you're engineering it, of course people are going to be upset.
01:51:09.000When you're engineering it, especially when you listen to this doctor say that it takes 15 fucking years before there's any change at all, and that you will have the bone density of a man.
01:51:18.000This is a board-certified endocrinologist who has no stake in the game.
01:51:21.000Not someone who's a gender reassignment doctor, which is what I've read all across the board.
01:51:27.000Positive in defense of this, it's all been people who are working in that industry.
01:54:18.000A defender of real women who get stuck in a situation where someone might have a real fucking mechanical, physical bone structure advantage, bone density advantage, testosterone advantage.
01:54:29.000There's a lot of variables that could really lead to them getting concussed.
01:57:05.000I don't know if every one, I haven't spoke to every one of them, but I've spoke to several in private who don't even want to discuss it, who are with a chain of expletives, fuck that, and one of the things that they always use is manhands.
01:58:11.000In expressing something, whether it's on a podcast or expressing something in a tweet or a blog, the full ideas sometimes always don't get across.
01:58:22.000And I've been accused across the board about this of being transphobic.
02:00:41.000It's real science that's set up to give confirmation bias to the idea that as soon as someone attains sexual reassignment surgery, then they're immediately...
02:00:52.000They not just identify as that sex, but are that sex physiologically.
02:06:06.000Bone density, the whole nine yards, everything should be examined.
02:06:09.000And you should have more opinions than these extremely biased gender reassignment doctors who are providing a lot of the information that I've been reading online, that people have been pointing to in support of gender reassignment people being immediately recognized as the same real woman category,
02:06:26.000I think once it's out there, it's out there.
02:06:29.000Now that it's out there, hey, if you choose to compete against her and you're a cis woman and you have no problem with it, I'm free with you trying to ride bulls, too.
02:07:14.000Yeah, pre-surgery, post-surgery, in the middle, five years in.
02:07:18.000Let's get a real database to work from, because we don't have one right now.
02:07:21.000I think, look, there's women, when I used to kickbox, there used to be this chick that used to come in the gym and fucking slug it out with dudes.
02:07:31.000You know, you want to go in there and do that?
02:07:32.000And I know girls that are pro-MMA fighters to this day that go in the gym and duke it out with dudes.
02:07:36.000And they do it because it makes them better.
02:07:38.000And I am fucking 100%, but they know what they're doing when they're going in there.
02:07:42.000They choose that and just like riding a bull or going BMX riding or anything else is dangerous as long as you are fully aware of the parameters of the competition that you're getting involved in and the risks that it might entail.
02:08:01.000In every part of your life as a trans person, we're different than the rest of the world and we have to understand that.
02:08:08.000Face value, I look like a guy, but it doesn't mean that you might think that way about me as well.
02:08:14.000Well, what's beautiful about today is you may be different than me or you may be different than Jamie, but you're not different than everybody and you can reach each other.
02:08:21.000The communities now that can be established through the internet, there's so much broader and there's so much more varied.
02:08:28.000There's so much more room for everybody.
02:08:32.000And I think that's a lot of the enthusiasm about finding that is what creates all these weird acronyms and secret languages and these weird inside talk.
02:08:56.000You involve and engross yourself in it and just really get super in-depth in it.
02:09:02.000Yeah, because you can buddy up and we all know how we each feel about each other and how our lives were.
02:09:08.000We all have the same story in different ways, but we all come to it.
02:09:12.000And I think it's also super important that a guy like you comes out and explains how much bullshit you had to deal with before that happened and your point of view and how depressed you were and how gross it was to have to fucking fight people because they didn't like who you were.
02:17:22.000J-A-C-A-R-A Souza against Yushin Okami.
02:17:27.000There's photos of him beating the fuck out of this badass Japanese dude, Yushin Okami.
02:17:32.000Now, Yushin Okami is a bad motherfucker.
02:17:34.000And this Jacare guy is such a physical freak that he just crushed this guy.
02:17:41.000I mean, there's certain guys that just have this very unique physical ability, and no matter what you do, you're never gonna beat that.
02:17:50.000As long as he's training, as long as he's learning skills, as long as he's dedicating himself, He has certain inherent advantages that he was blessed with that you can't overcome.
02:18:02.000Because if a guy not just has the physical ability but also puts in the dedication and has the intelligence and the mental strength, if he has all those factors, it's not fair.
02:18:16.000Because if you don't have those, if you're just super tough, and you're really technical, but your fucking body sucks a fat dick, you just got some old-school, slow-poked DNA, and you just can't get over that physical hump, that guy can crack you at will, and you can't reach him.
02:18:31.000You can't get a hold of him, you can't hit him when you want to, he's too fast, there's nothing you can do.
02:18:58.000He was a world jiu-jitsu champion, multiple-time world jiu-jitsu champion, and now he's fighting in MMA. And he is the argument towards Fallon Fox's side, that there's a broad spectrum in both sexes, as is Serena Williams.
02:19:12.000So that's actually a really good question then, because then you have that, is that fair?
02:19:47.000If a guy can't defend himself, not defending himself, or if the referee thinks he's taking too much punishment, the referee is free to stop it at any time.
02:19:54.000If he feels like it's not competitive anymore, the guy's in danger.
02:19:57.000And that's the most important job the referee has, rescuing people from danger.
02:20:35.000So you make 155 pounds and then you rehydrate yourself up to like 170-ish.
02:20:40.000And then you go into the ring, they use IV, so you go in the ring fully hydrated and you feel great.
02:20:46.000But you weighed in at 155 and now you weigh 170. So you're really big for the weight class.
02:20:51.000And there's a point of diminishing returns where you cut too much weight and it weakens your body so much that you can't perform well the next day.
02:20:57.000And then there's way past that point where this guy went to where he died.
02:21:03.000This is the first known case that I'm aware of in MMA of someone dying, but it's been a problem with college wrestling for a long time, and high school wrestling even, to the point where they've started to monitor athletes' weights and how much they cut and how much they put back on,
02:21:19.000and they make sure that they don't get below a certain amount of body fat.
02:21:22.000They make sure that they don't cut too much water.
02:21:27.000It's even more scary in combat sports because in combat sports you're also dealing with the effects of the concussive impacts on the dehydrated brain.
02:21:38.000It's a little known fact, but all of the deaths in professional boxing that have occurred inside the ring, at least almost all of them, have been under the heavyweight division.
02:21:47.000It's all in the divisions where people had to cut weight.
02:21:50.000So then you weigh in at that weight and then you rehydrate.
02:22:00.000Because you're looking at it as an objective observer that's intelligent and hasn't already like decided that that's just a part of the landscape.
02:22:07.000When you're looking at it normally, you're like, this is crazy.
02:25:19.000Then they step on the scale, they weigh in at whatever it is, and then they slowly rehydrate, first of all with Pedialyte, which is an electrolyte supplement, and then they go to IVs.
02:25:29.000They take an IV bag, and they take a...
02:27:47.000The commissions, they keep a close eye on fighters and they test the shit out of them before they actually get into the cage.
02:27:52.000They make them do MRIs, a full blood scan.
02:27:55.000They make sure that these people that go in there are healthy.
02:27:57.000And they've actually found a lot of real issues with people because of these scans that people didn't know they had an aneurysm ready to happen in their brain.
02:28:05.000And if they got hit, they would have been like, pfft, out.
02:28:07.000My friend Dan Hardy, who was a top-level MMA fighter, found out he had an extra heartbeat.
02:28:12.000Some weird aberration of his heart where he's got his primary heartbeat and he's got this weird sort of extra beat that goes on and the worry is that this extra beat can overcome him and he could possibly have a heart attack.
02:28:24.000I don't understand the medical aspect of it but he can't fight now unless he has this operation where they go into his chest and remove this extra heartbeat.
02:28:47.000Well, for him, he doesn't feel like he needs it.
02:28:49.000He doesn't feel like it's warranted and necessary.
02:28:51.000Yeah, but it's preventing him from fighting.
02:28:52.000It's also, he underwent, and I hate using these terms, but in his case it's actually the correct term, he underwent a spiritual transformation.
02:29:02.000He went to the Amazon and took ayahuasca and sort of has reassessed his entire life since then.
02:30:30.000So your body produces something called monoamine oxidase, and monoamine oxidase breaks down dimethyltryptamine in the gut.
02:30:37.000So what they've done with ayahuasca is it's a combinatory drug where they've taken the root of one plant and the leaves of the other, and the leaves or the root of one of them is a natural MAO inhibitor.
02:30:49.000It's called harmine, and they boil this stuff down together.
02:30:53.000And they create this thing where the MAO inhibitor and the DMT are all together so that as you drink it, it goes into your gut, but the monoamine oxidase gets killed by the harmine and the DMT goes right into the bloodstream.
02:31:16.000The idea of the spirit world sounds like everything that everybody thinks about when you think of, like, if you took a pill and you went to a magic place where there's dragons and demons and aliens and spaceships and fractals all around you,
02:32:00.000A vision quest and to find himself, to seek truth, he did it through combat.
02:32:05.000You know, he did it through physical one-on-one competition in the most dangerous sport in the world.
02:32:11.000And then in having this, and I'm really speaking at a turn to put these words into his mouth, but I think what I got out of it from speaking to him was that he, now that he understands that this whole world exists, And that it existed always.
02:35:08.000There's a constant need to feel special, to justify why you're doing what you're doing, to reward yourself for what you've done and encourage further progress.
02:35:19.000But that progress, that's what sort of...
02:35:24.000It sort of pushes forth almost everything that men do in this world.
02:35:28.000And there's that weird balance where you're trying to be a sort of enlightened person, but also you're a man.
02:36:09.000And then my other question was going to be – so I find it really fascinating that you're saying that because I know women and men think totally differently.
02:36:19.000My thought process changed, the way I interact.
02:36:21.000And people don't tend to realize that – why I think men and women always have problems with each other in relationships – Men's needs are different than women's needs.
02:36:30.000And it's a reality that people don't want to talk about.
02:38:55.000The other problem is not just the men who think that they understand how women think and the women who think they understand how men think.
02:39:06.000The other problem is the people who pretend to be someone else to placate the opposite gender.
02:40:08.000If you really pay attention to the heavy-duty psychedelic heads, they say that at one point in time when people regularly consumed psychedelics, we were much more like chimpanzees.
02:41:22.000People are just fucking each other, but they know.
02:41:24.000It's also the idea exists in fighter pilots.
02:41:27.000It was another really fascinating aspect of this guy's book is that fighter pilots and people in intense, high risk, high death rate jobs would often wife swap.
02:41:38.000And the idea, the psychology behind it was the wife swapping was to ensure that they're the one that they love so dearly.
02:41:44.000It's not that they didn't want to have this connection only with them, but they wanted other people to love them too because they probably wouldn't be around.
02:44:22.000Wouldn't you think that people who have been marginalized, people who have been forced to face all sorts of prejudice and hurtful things, that they would be more accepting?
02:46:48.000Whatever the fuck they want to do, whether it's be a man, be a woman, get all tattooed up like you and I, or not, or shave your head or not, or fucking whatever, man.
02:46:59.000What kind of interaction are you having with that person?
02:47:02.000And my interaction with you was very pleasant.