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00:04:06.000Like there's a lot of exercises that people do at the gym that they don't really enhance your athleticism or functional strength, meaning they don't really translate into sports.
00:05:15.000But I got to experience that transition from establishment media to new media.
00:05:21.000And there are really important differences and just this whole media revolution that's happening that's really exciting for anyone who's interested in journalism.
00:05:29.000I mean, you're part of it with this podcast.
00:05:53.000We've got to make sure the advertisers continue giving us money.
00:05:58.000What's fascinating is all you have to do is be interesting, entertaining, informative, and that's it.
00:06:03.000It doesn't have to have CNN on it or Fox on it or any of these other names that we've attributed to meaning what the news is, where the news comes from.
00:06:11.000I mean, when I first started working at TYT, it was this unknown show.
00:06:15.000It had been around for a few years, but it was a really big risk for me to work there because I was working at CBS Radio at the time.
00:06:22.000And CBS Radio had a very clear path for me.
00:06:25.000You start off as an assistant producer, you will work your way up, and if you're good enough and persistent enough, you'll be an anchor and you'll be fine.
00:06:48.000In case you're on a plane with no Google and you're like, what the fuck is she talking about?
00:06:52.000Um, so I just remember being really unhappy at CBS, feeling like, you know, even if I get to the top of the ladder within this company, I'm not going to feel fulfilled doing what they're doing.
00:07:06.000And the first day I worked at the Young Turks, I heard Cenk Uygur, the main host of the show, go on this rant against the Bush administration and some of the ridiculous, you know, civil liberty violations, civil liberties violations that they were accused of.
00:07:47.000What year do you think it was where it started to shift?
00:07:52.000Because it seems like, to me, it's maybe three, five, whatever years it is, but within the last few years, there's this shift where my friends don't ever talk to me about what they saw on CNN. They don't ever talk to me about what they saw on Fox News.
00:12:42.000But you know, look, when you have, there's like financial gain involved, then okay, I guess I can kind of understand where you're coming from.
00:12:49.000You're a lawyer and you're trying to make some money, I guess.
00:12:52.000And it's really difficult for lawyers right now to even get cases, to get work.
00:13:21.000The real problem is they don't even realize they're being shitheads because their dad was a shithead, their brother's a shithead, they grow up in a community of shitheads.
00:14:48.000You should re-upload them online and let everybody know where that sweet dick is hiding.
00:14:53.000I've considered that but you know a lot of times they'll send me the pictures on Facebook because I have a fan page on Facebook and every once in a while check the messages and they're so stupid because all of their private information is on there like where they work who their girlfriend or their wife is and part of me wants to like forward it over to their girlfriend or wife but I'm too nice like I don't want to like ruin their lives over there like perverted behavior Well,
00:15:19.000that's very kind of you to not do that.
00:15:21.000Didn't a guy recently lose his job because they found out he would, yeah, he was a Reddit troll.
00:15:26.000It was like, would do evil, evil shit on Reddit.
00:15:29.000And some people said, all right, who is this guy?
00:15:31.000And then they found, you know, who this guy was.
00:15:34.000And it was a character that he was playing, like to blow off steam.
00:15:37.000He would be like, allegedly, he would just be like really evil and nasty online.
00:15:42.000A small part of me felt kind of bad for him because he had a family to take care of, and it's going to destroy his life.
00:15:50.000Online anonymity allows people to blow off steam in that way.
00:15:54.000And a lot of people right now, because of the economic crisis, because of all the crap that's going on in the government, all the I'm not interested in censoring them.
00:16:18.000I know that YouTube is trying to work with their comments so those Negative comments get pushed back to the bottom or whatever and no one can read them.
00:16:26.000I just feel like, you know, the internet should be an open forum for the most hateful people if they want to be hateful.
00:16:33.000And we as adults have to have thicker skin and just walk away and not let it get to us.
00:17:16.000I think it's an important method of criticism that was never available before.
00:17:21.000We have a very honest view of what you do and when they like what you do and when they don't.
00:17:29.000Even if it's really hypercritical, overcritical, if they have a point, that point probably would have never gotten to you during any other era.
00:17:38.000If you want to really analyze what you're doing and try to figure out what's the best way to hone this, they'll give you a lot of input.
00:17:46.000I will say that my political views have changed significantly since I started working at TYT, and it's not necessarily because of my colleagues.
00:17:53.000It has a lot to do with audience feedback.
00:17:57.000For instance, what I thought about prostitution when I first started was very different from what I think now.
00:18:02.000I was definitely against legalizing prostitution.
00:18:05.000I was in favor of tough-on-crime legislation when it came to dealing with that.
00:18:10.000And then I realized, like, this is stupid.
00:18:29.000Willie D from the Ghetto Boys said it best.
00:18:31.000He said, you got to let a hoe be a hoe.
00:18:33.000I mean, if you have two consenting adults wanting to do that, exchange money for sex, why the hell not?
00:18:39.000It's amazing that we have, like, this huge porn industry in the country, and as long as they do it in front of a camera, it's totally fine.
00:20:03.000I think men and women have similar sexual desires.
00:20:06.000However, women are not allowed to be...
00:20:09.000As open about it because of societal expectations and certain gender roles.
00:20:14.000If you are a woman who is open about how much you love sex and how often you want to have sex and how badly you need it, you are looked at as a hoe.
00:20:23.000People will refer to you as a loose woman, a slutty woman.
00:20:26.000That's the reason why a lot of women like to have the cocktails before they have sex, because that'll allow them to let loose and do what they really want to do.
00:20:37.000And then also, if you don't have sex, if you decide to save yourself for marriage or you save yourself for someone that you genuinely love or whatever, then you're considered a prude.
00:21:07.000You're only left with two groups of guys.
00:21:10.000There's guys that would have zero problem with it at all, and then there's guys that would only have a problem with it if you weren't attracted to them.
00:21:23.000So if you were a chick and you were just like, listen, I'm a freak, I like to get fucked all day long, that's what I'm into, you'll find exactly the right people you need in your life.
00:21:43.000Because I think for a lot of people, especially in the culture we're living right now, if you're that open about your sexual desires, people will see that as a green light to do things that might even be considered illegal.
00:21:55.000Whether it's harassment or sexual assault or something.
00:21:59.000And also, I mean, this is like Probably bullshit, but I would imagine that if you're the type of person that starts getting into threesomes and tying each other up, and you start getting really freaky, it's way easy to go too far with that.
00:22:16.000If you hear about someone like, I'm just into sex all day long, I just love sex.
00:23:18.000You know, physical stuff, I think you kind of just get desensitized by things.
00:23:23.000You know, there have been many studies about what porn does to the brain, and you start off by watching something that might be considered softcore, and that's enough to, you know, do the job.
00:23:33.000And then all of a sudden you're watching more and more hardcore stuff, and you just become desensitized to it.
00:23:39.000And for a lot of teenage boys that grow up on that kind of stuff, that's what they expect from women, you know, or girls once they start having sex.
00:26:01.000And no one really was considering bailing them out either.
00:26:04.000It was like, you know, you kind of should have figured this out, dummies.
00:26:06.000Yeah, well, I agree with you on that, but at the same time, everything always goes back to who is funding our politicians.
00:26:14.000You know, Wall Street, these big bankers, these are the people that fund the campaigns for our politicians, which is why they just willy-nilly went for the bailout.
00:26:23.000And by the way, after the bailout happened, we did nothing to break up these too-big-to-fail banks.
00:27:07.000I mean, when you really stop and think that it's gotten to the point that it is today, where essentially it's open, it's pretty obvious, they control virtually every single aspect of our economy, our society.
00:27:20.000It's all just money-generating hubs, these big giant spaceships filled with assholes that are just sucking money out of whatever, whether it's through oil or natural gas or whatever they're doing.
00:28:15.000But fortunately, there are ways around it.
00:28:18.000Citizens United was a terrible Supreme Court ruling.
00:28:21.000You know, which effectively allows corporations to act as people and make these unlimited campaign donations to politicians.
00:28:28.000So one way that you can get around that is by creating a constitutional amendment, which we're trying to do at the Young Turks.
00:28:34.000There's a political action committee that we formed called Wolfpack.
00:28:38.000Your audience can learn more about it at wolf-pack.com.
00:28:43.000and basically it would have state leaders propose a resolution and the resolution would create a constitutional convention where you can make an amendment to the Constitution that would get money out of politics and that would fix so many problems because then our broken democracy would change into a system that it was intended to be where our elected politicians are supposed to represent us the people instead of corporations Well,
00:29:12.000when you back something in the corner and shine a light on it, you really get to know its true nature.
00:29:16.000And if that ever does come to play, it would be a very fascinating moment to see how the system that's in place today would deal with the idea of taking money out of politics and what kind of a scramble would take place.
00:29:40.000But I think that if the American people become a little more politically active and they sign the petitions necessary and they hold their state representatives accountable, I think that this could happen.
00:29:53.000You know, it just takes a little bit of political activism.
00:29:56.000And unfortunately, there's this huge level of apathy right now, which I don't understand because The political climate is leading to, you know, this economic meltdown and all of the problems that people are experiencing right now, income inequality, wealth inequality.
00:30:19.000We need to fix our democratic process.
00:30:22.000When you look at the future of this country, the way it's running, the way it is currently operated, how long can that, it seems like it's falling apart at the wheels.
00:30:31.000It seems like it's like this crazy thing that's spinning and shaking and sucking money out and freaking out.
00:30:38.000How long can this thing operate the way it is right now?
00:31:08.000Top one percent owns one-third of the wealth in the country.
00:31:11.000And so people are struggling to make ends meet.
00:31:15.000And the reason why that's happening is because we're seeing these huge tax cuts for the most wealthiest people.
00:31:23.000Why is it that we're supposed to have the highest corporate tax rate, but because of corporate loopholes, we actually have the lowest corporate tax rate?
00:31:32.000I mean, we've got to get rid of those loopholes.
00:31:34.000And then you have the Republicans saying, yeah, you know what, we should raise taxes.
00:31:37.000One way we can do that is by getting rid of deductions.
00:31:40.000Which deduction do they want to go after?
00:32:25.000You know, you have to really depend on independent media to get real facts.
00:32:28.000And so I don't blame people for wanting to be distracted.
00:32:31.000But at the same time, if we allow things to continue the way they are, we're going to have the wealthiest people living in their castles with moats around them while we're going to struggle to find private security because everything that is publicly funded is going to be defunded.
00:32:45.000including our education, we're seeing that happen now.
00:32:48.000Nobody ever wants to think that the operating system that we have that runs our society could fall apart.
00:32:54.000Nobody ever wants to think that all of a sudden there would be no cops because they don't get paid.
00:32:57.000But that's happened in places like Camden, New Jersey.
00:34:02.000Like this whole thing is like barely hanging together with chewing gum.
00:34:06.000And I think the most frustrating part about that is, you know, we have politicians that will pass policies that lead to the collapse of certain cities.
00:34:16.000California is in a lot of trouble right now because of a proposition we passed in 1978 called Proposition 13. It kept property taxes at 1.2%.
00:34:24.000And as a result, we started defunding our education, which is why the LAUSD went from being one of the best school districts in the country to being one of the worst school districts in the country.
00:34:33.000And we just lost out on a ton of revenue as a result of our low, very low property taxes.
00:34:43.000In the case of California, of course, Californians voted for it, which was disastrous.
00:34:47.000But then at the same time, they'll cut government programs that'll help the poorest people, whether it's the SNAP program or the food stamp program or, you know, the welfare programs or whatever that help needy kids.
00:34:59.000And it's like, look, if you don't want to spend this much money on governmental programs or social programs, then stop passing policies and tax cuts that make it really, really difficult for people to make ends meet.
00:35:11.000Well, I think if it wasn't for shows like yours and people like you and Cenk who are exposing this stuff and people in the new media, people that are writing these very, very popular blogs, if it wasn't for that, this information wouldn't be going out.
00:35:25.000And if the information wasn't going out, people wouldn't realize what a clusterfuck it really is.
00:35:29.000They would tune into the nightly news and get this sense that everything's going to be okay, which is basically what America did until the internet came around.
00:35:37.000It seems like within the 10, 15 plus years of the active internet, the whole world has just stopped and went, wait, what the fuck are we doing?
00:35:44.000Like, everyone's shaking their head, looking left and right.
00:35:47.000Confusion, turmoil, and questioning on a level that I don't think we've seen before.
00:35:52.000And this weird new thing where anybody can just stick a camera and attach, you know, USB it to a laptop and boom, you're online.
00:36:44.000I mean, I studied political science for my master's and it's just always been a passion of mine since I was in high school.
00:36:50.000So, even though things are really bad right now, I have this passion to try to make a difference.
00:36:56.000And so, I see Cenk making a difference, and I'm really proud of him, and he's someone that's been my mentor, someone that I look up to, and, you know, I want to be able to analyze politics as well as he does.
00:37:08.000At the same time, you know, I was brought in for something completely different.
00:37:11.000I was brought in to make the company money, and that's basically what I do.
00:37:15.000The stories that I cover in my hour of the show are sometimes very important social stories, whether it's gay rights, women's rights, whatever, men's rights when it comes to how they get screwed over when it comes to children and marriage and basically the law.
00:37:32.000Men are basically screwed over when it comes to sexual harassment and stuff, but women aren't.
00:37:41.000But then, you know, I'll do the stories that are really stupid, but people love them.
00:37:45.000Like, we'll do a Miley Cyrus story, and it'll get, like, millions of views, and we'll make a ton of money off that video, but there's no value to that story.
00:38:14.000I had this conversation with Jamie Kilstein once, a dude from Citizen Radio.
00:38:20.000They were talking about politics and I go, do you ever think that by following this fake horse and pony show that you're like lending credence to it?
00:38:29.000Because you're an intelligent person and you're pretending this isn't all just assholes who are getting bribed.
00:38:35.000It's really just a bunch of assholes that are getting bribed and they're cronyism and all this weird shit going on with laws and things they can and can't get away with and what they can and can't get charged with.
00:38:46.000Well, I mean, look, there's a huge difference between political reporters in the mainstream that just report on it, but they don't really give a shit about making a difference.
00:38:54.000And then there's a huge difference between people like Jamie and Allison on Citizen Radio or the Young Turks or any other, you know, what is it called?
00:42:19.000That strategy or that delivery is effective because there have been people who have been reporting about, you know, civil liberties violations for a while and they get no attention.
00:42:30.000So sometimes the squeaky wheel will get the attention.
00:42:33.000And, you know, if that's what he needs to do to get coverage of those important news stories, it's totally fine.
00:42:38.000The thing is, you know, There are little sprinkles of truth to some of the stuff that he reports, and then some of the stuff that he reports is just crazy, and it's made up.
00:42:48.000So it's like, I don't know where to fall with that guy, because I want to support him with some stories, but then other stories, I'm like, dude, you need to tone it down.
00:42:57.000Well, I don't know what the process is for acquiring information, vetting it out, and then publishing it, yelling at the YouTube channel.
00:44:14.000But he's been right about a lot of stuff that's really freaky.
00:44:17.000One thing that he reported on that very few people caught was the use of paid police officers to pretend to be people that are in a crowd protesting.
00:44:33.000He covered this in Seattle when the World Trade Organization was making their, I believe it was the 90s, when there was these massive protests and the protests went violent.
00:44:43.000Well, he has all these photos of their bottom of their boots, military-issue Vibrams, and he points all this like, these are police officers.
00:44:52.000They're wearing masks, no one else is, and they're the only ones doing any damage.
00:44:57.000And they're doing it so then the police can come in and start arresting peaceful people, which they normally couldn't do.
00:45:03.000And I thought that was the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.
00:45:06.000The crazy thing is, when it came to the Occupy protesters, they weren't even Asian provocateurs.
00:45:11.000They were just cops breaking shit and starting the violence.
00:45:15.000And they got a little bit of criticism for it.
00:45:18.000The media would pick up the story and make it seem as though the Occupy protesters were the violent ones.
00:45:23.000They would do everything necessary to discredit them, which made me so angry because finally in this country there was a little bit of political activism.
00:46:18.000Yeah, like one wrong move and violence could break out.
00:46:21.000But it was because they were overly protective.
00:46:25.000They knew what was happening to other protesters.
00:46:28.000Look at what happened at UC Davis, I think, with that cop spraying that pepper spray on those students that are just sitting there.
00:46:35.000So I think that they were just overly protective, as they should have been, because of the treatment that all these protesters were dealing with.
00:46:55.000People are aware of that kind of stuff.
00:46:57.000But when I saw this Alex Jones thing, I really thought it was the dumbest thing I'd ever seen.
00:47:01.000I was like, there's no way that could ever be possible.
00:47:04.000And then he presents it very clearly, very cleanly, over and over again.
00:47:09.000All the different news stories that pointed to different various incidents that took place, including them sequestered.
00:47:16.000They got all of the agent provocateurs in a house.
00:47:19.000The cops negotiated with them and then let them go.
00:47:21.000I mean, the whole thing was so cut and dry and clear.
00:47:25.000When you have evidence backing up, you know, your belief that something is a conspiracy, then of course, I mean, you have strong evidence and I'll believe it.
00:47:33.000But it's one thing to have the evidence, it's another thing to purport that something is going on and then not having the evidence to back up.
00:47:40.000That's why I said I think he needs a filter.
00:49:51.000The only problem with that is just that thinking that goes along with that, which is like collect gold, like dig a hole in the ground for a nuclear shelter, like preppers, and people start putting battery rams in their pickup trucks.
00:50:46.000They all happen to be working for oil companies, gas companies, those motherfuckers.
00:50:51.000The Koch brothers will fund scientists to put out studies that claim that Either climate change does not exist, this is just a normal trend that we're experiencing with our planet, or that it exists but it's not created by humans.
00:51:06.000Well, they went way back to the 1950s, they were doing that with cigarettes.
00:51:09.000When people were trying to come out saying, hey, I think these things are giving us cancer.
00:51:13.000They fucking funded a shitload of studies and were like, no, look, it's actually good for you.
00:51:50.000When we were talking earlier about being addicted to items and being addicted to things and how you wanted to get a bigger apartment even though you don't need it, I'm guilty as charged too, but I think about it all the time.
00:52:01.000And what I'm starting to believe is that human beings, like the reason why...
00:52:06.000We like to think of ourselves as being something that we're much more in control of than just the woes of nature.
00:52:13.000But I kind of think that more likely than that, everything is natural.
00:52:17.000And even though we break down like ant behavior as being natural and wolf behavior as being natural, But humans, well, you know, we have free will, and we have education, and we have...
00:53:45.000But, you know, aside from the racial profiling component of that story, I was just shocked that, I think he's 19, that a 19-year-old would save up multiple paychecks, by the way, to buy a $350 belt.
00:54:00.000And it goes against everything I believe.
00:55:12.000And I want it to be like a real partnership where we help each other out.
00:55:15.000But at the same time, like, this obsession with materialism makes me sick to my stomach.
00:55:19.000It's distracting, and it makes people feel that if they can't afford certain things, then they're not good enough, that they're not worthy.
00:55:26.000If they don't have the money to start at Barney's, then they're less than.
00:55:30.000Well, I definitely think you're right from a sociological aspect.
00:55:34.000I feel like the whole desire is fruitless and silly and weird, and it exists more with people that can't have it and want it very badly.
00:55:43.000But there's a lot of people that are rich that just go shopping every day, but the hole never gets filled.
00:56:37.000I don't know why people are so obsessed with that.
00:56:40.000And then these young kids think, oh my god, I got to work really hard for that Maybach, which is why so many people get involved in the financial sector and they sell their souls because they just want to be rich.
00:56:50.000And we need people who want to be teachers.
00:56:53.000You know, albeit most of them get screwed over with really, really crappy salaries and we should definitely pay our teachers better.
00:57:00.000But people don't gravitate toward jobs that actually help the community because they're so obsessed with making money.
00:57:07.000And I hate seeing our brightest students go toward the financial sector instead of, you know, focusing on jobs that do help the community, whether it's, you know, in fields that Lead to technological innovation or to medical innovation.
00:57:21.000And of course, doctors make a lot of money, but a lot of scientists that do some serious research that really benefits society don't make a lot of money.
00:57:30.000And so I just hate the incentive structure that we have these days and this emphasis on always having the newest, most expensive item available.
00:57:41.000But as a person trying, making an attempt to look at it objectively, if I was like an alien species coming down to observe Earth, I would say they're in a mad scramble to create the next technological marvel.
00:57:52.000They're in a mad scramble to create the new internet, the next thing.
00:57:57.000And they're going to go from that to the next thing.
00:58:06.000But technologically, there's some sort of a symbiotic relationship that we have with technology, and that's fueled by materialism.
00:58:13.000This materialism drive, it ensures that people consistently buy the newest things, innovate, and constantly trying to impress with the latest.
00:58:23.000Sociologically, I agree with you 100%.
00:58:24.000But I think that there's probably something more going on that we're just not aware of because we're trapped in the middle of the hurricane of it all.
01:00:18.000My friend Eric has a company called Sugartree, and he makes these beautiful cues all based on woods that are really exotic and strange burls and weird figure in the wood, and he's just obsessed with wood.
01:00:33.000When you buy one of his cues or you play with it, you could literally see the passion that it took that this guy made, this guy who's obsessed with wood.
01:00:42.000He's obsessed with different grains and tonal qualities and aging them.
01:02:21.000There's so much left over from when they were just slaughtering elephants before they started regulating it that you can get ivory to make inlays and stuff in pool cues.
01:04:38.000Is this because of the way your responsibility that you feel for looking at the world and seeing how fucked up things are, that you feel bad spending a couple hundred bucks on a nice meal?
01:05:11.000What I like to do is if I'm going to go out and I'm going to spend some serious money, I make sure that I take people with me and I spend the money on them as well.
01:05:19.000Because then I feel like I'm doing something good for my friends.
01:05:22.000And I read this study about how the happiest people We'll actually spend money on others.
01:06:55.000But to say that I have white guilt would imply that I have ancestry that did hideous things to black people, which is why I now want to raise awareness about issues of racism.
01:07:32.000Yeah, I've heard some pretty ridiculous blanket statements.
01:07:36.000But what's really important is that the idea of racism should be eventually, it shouldn't exist anymore.
01:07:45.000One day, it should come a time where that has been ironed out of the human culture, where we've beaten it down.
01:07:51.000It seems like if you go back to a few thousand years ago when they were burning people at the stake for various beliefs, we've managed to get past that.
01:07:59.000We've managed to get past killing neighbors, you know, rival countries that were like a block away from each other in Europe.
01:09:11.000You just opened the door for this kind of shit to be swept under the rug by future generations who find out about this as well.
01:09:17.000When there's a gross injustice and it doesn't get rectified, there's this weird thing that happens where it can spawn more gross injustices.
01:09:28.000And if one person can get away with doing that type of, you know, act or behaving in a certain way, then other people will think, like, well, I can do that.
01:09:39.000And, you know, in the case of the Steubenville rape case, I was actually really shocked at how many people bullied the girl after she was raped.
01:09:51.000And you see more and more stories like that popping up all over the place.
01:09:54.000I think it's a human nature issue with a lot of young kids that have not been, not only have not been raised correctly, but I think there's a lot of people that are just letting their kids raise themselves and they're not even having conversations with them.
01:10:06.000And they're growing up with animal instincts.
01:10:08.000And animal instincts are to go after injured animals.
01:10:34.000It's the worst aspects of humankind is this weird thing that we can have when we gang up, you know?
01:10:39.000And the parents of the victim, I give them all the credit in the world because I'm going to be completely honest.
01:10:44.000If I were in that position, I don't know if I would be able to prevent myself from doing something that would lead me to getting prosecuted and thrown in jail.
01:11:16.000There's a man thing that can happen if there's too many dummies, and they get together, and they start thinking that they're making sense, or that they should just fucking do this.
01:11:25.000That's where gang murders take place, and gang beatings.
01:11:30.000I'm sure there's a similar sort of group mentality that happens with women, but it doesn't seem to turn into as much of a victimization thing.
01:12:48.000It's a disingenuous thing that they're saying.
01:12:51.000Guys aren't really wandering around life worried about getting raped.
01:12:54.000They worry about it if they get imprisoned.
01:12:56.000I just worry that, you know, the men's rights movement is a response to, like, radical feminism.
01:13:02.000And I have a lot of issues with radical feminism because when you pretend as though women are always the ones that get screwed over and men don't deal with certain double standards and certain issues, then you're being disingenuous.
01:13:14.000You know, you're doing a disservice to your own movement.
01:13:17.000I mean, there are some serious issues with the way women are perceived in media, for instance.
01:13:26.000Very different from how you're perceived in the media.
01:13:29.000You know, the comments that you will get usually will question the legitimacy or accuracy of something that you've said.
01:13:36.000The comments that I get don't necessarily criticize the legitimacy of what I'm saying.
01:13:40.000Of course I get comments like that as well.
01:13:42.000But how often do you get comments about like, oh, you know, I want Anna to sit on my face or I want Joe to sit on my face.
01:14:20.000Everywhere you look, a man has an opinion.
01:14:22.000But women with an opinion that go public and have this very strong stance they take on things and expect to be taken seriously...
01:14:30.000It's a lot like female stand-up comedians because female stand-up comedians, they're so limited in topics because men don't want to hear you talk about politics.
01:14:38.000Men don't want to hear women talk about certain things.
01:14:42.000Anything where you're telling people how to live their lives, men don't want to hear that from women.
01:14:46.000It's just a giant group of men just shut you off.
01:16:38.000Yeah, there's a real problem with writing things down online and not having any social cues.
01:16:43.000Not like looking at you and say, you know, Anna, I watched your thing on science and I just want you to know that your grasp of physics is a bit off.
01:16:53.000And you would go, oh, I don't know shit about science.
01:20:11.000Every person can teach you something new, right?
01:20:13.000Every person that you date, yeah, they can teach you how you can get stalked now.
01:20:18.000No, but I will say that when you said you can't date a regular person, I thought you have to date another public figure, which I'm not interested in.
01:20:42.000I wouldn't think you were high maintenance, but I would think that a woman who's a public figure, a woman who's very articulate and intelligent and makes a living off of her opinions, that's intimidated for a lot of dudes.
01:20:57.000Especially people that are not good at expressing themselves.
01:21:00.000What is the big thing with relationships?
01:21:03.000It's the weird sort of expression dance that you do with each other.
01:21:08.000How does she express when she's angry?
01:23:27.000If I was a douchebag guy, the way the douchebag guy translation of that is, if you meet a girl and she's not turned on by you, she's a fucking lesbian.
01:23:57.000I have talked to a lot of black guys on the phone where they were very articulate, very intelligent, very educated, but I knew they were black.
01:24:15.000On a national internet program such as this, you know, I know, and everybody listens to this, including black people that might pretend to be offended.
01:24:50.000I have talked to them on the phone and had wonderful, elaborate conversations that I truly enjoyed, but I knew I was talking to a black person.
01:25:39.000Going back to the whole gay thing, because I want to kind of backpedal from what I said, because it was disastrous.
01:25:46.000Look, I'm in a unique position because of where I live.
01:25:49.000And also, I'm in Los Angeles, which means a lot of people, a lot of guys, take a lot of pride in the way they look, and they are almost proud of being overly feminine in some ways.
01:26:02.000Like, they like the moisturizer and they like the fancy clothing.
01:26:06.000And so then in that case, they used to be called metrosexuals.
01:26:09.000I don't know what the politically correct term is now.
01:27:07.000And the best way I could describe it is if I was speaking to you, if you were French, and I was saying the correct words, but I had no idea what the fuck they meant.
01:27:31.000He was like, oh yeah, I remember when I touched her breasts and they felt like sandbags.
01:27:38.000And it was just so obvious that he had never had sex before.
01:27:43.000The guy that I was talking to just started talking about this interaction that he had with a woman in a nightclub and now this girl just came up to him and just started kissing him and making out with him and it was like the way he was saying it was like the worst like fake storytelling you could imagine it was he was like he was doing a sketch yeah yeah but he was a beautiful man like beautiful like big tall perfect bone structure just handsome and And he had this girlfriend that just always had this perplexed look at her face.
01:28:12.000She just looked like an explosion just went off like 30 seconds ago.
01:28:16.000And she was trying to figure out what the fuck happened.
01:28:50.000Because guys already have this crazy confidence, even if they're not the most attractive guy in the world, they're usually pretty confident.
01:29:02.000Let me just point out, first of all, you're Armenian, and Armenian dudes are fucking savages.
01:29:36.000It would be nice to meet an Armenian guy who's as Americanized as I am, but most of them are very traditional, which means we're going to butt heads, and I just don't...
01:29:44.000They're going to have to wear that gold chain, that cross.
01:30:36.000It might have been his joke, but it's actually true.
01:30:39.000If a guy is really attractive and he's constantly getting bombed on, like women throwing themselves at him, then he's going to cheat on you.
01:31:30.000Remember they used to have the dating game and people would be wearing those weird suits with the fucking bell bottoms and they'd tell what they would do.
01:31:38.000Bachelor number one, if I met you and I was on a beach looking for shells and you wanted to get my attention, what would you say to me?
01:31:46.000You know, is that your clam that I just...
01:32:23.000I feel weird dating someone that I work with or someone that I'm going to run into often with my career because I don't want to burn bridges.
01:32:35.000And plus, on top of that, I'm more interested in dating someone who has a completely different career than mine because I want to learn something from someone I'm dating.
01:32:43.000We're very lucky Brian Redman's not here right now because he would be fucking throwing himself at you.
01:33:07.000For folks who don't know, tell the story of what Michael Hastings did and then what happened to him.
01:33:12.000Yeah, so Michael Hastings was one of the few real journalists left in the U.S. He was one of the few journalists who actually gave a shit about holding politicians accountable for their actions.
01:33:58.000Michael Hastings won awards for it, and that kind of put him on the map.
01:34:02.000He wrote many great books, and he was just a great journalist.
01:34:07.000But the most important thing to keep in mind is he was one of those people who was fearless when it came to holding the government accountable.
01:34:15.000Then all of a sudden, you know, in June of 2013, he gets into this really mysterious car accident at 4, I believe 4.20 in the morning, 4.30 in the morning, around then.
01:34:26.000And he was speeding in this silver Mercedes and he crashed into a palm tree.
01:34:32.000And the car exploded on impact and everyone was wondering whether or not this was...
01:35:54.000And we got a translator and he told us exactly what he saw and he said that Michael Hastings was in fact speeding really, really fast.
01:36:01.000But that doesn't really answer any questions either because some people are wondering whether or not the government can manipulate his car I don't know.
01:36:11.000I've read stories where it's possible, but it's very, very difficult to do.
01:36:15.000So again, I feel uncomfortable speculating.
01:36:17.000But what I do know is his family, including his brother, have said that he was increasingly paranoid leading up to the accident.
01:36:40.000And I, again, I don't know what happened.
01:36:43.000But it did have severe ramifications for people who want to be investigative journalists.
01:36:49.000Because if that fear does exist, if that is even a possibility, it's going to deter you from doing real investigative journalism.
01:36:58.000It's going to deter you from holding the government accountable because you know that the NSA is watching every fucking move.
01:37:05.000You know that if you're watching the wrong kind of porn or if you're doing something that's a little questionable according to societal morals or norms, then the government can find that and they can leak that to the public and they can destroy your reputation.
01:37:18.000Do you as a journalist want to take that risk to do what a journalist is supposed to do?
01:37:24.000And I think a lot of people out there are unwilling to do it and I don't blame them.
01:37:27.000It's scary to know that the government can come after you if they wanted to.
01:38:17.000They might have to just scare you and freak you out and get you to believe that they're watching every move you make and waiting for their time to lower the boom on you.
01:38:58.000He's telling you about how your civil liberties are being violated.
01:39:02.000This is the kind of stuff that should make people want to stand up.
01:39:04.000Instead of having a discussion about what we should do to stop the government from spying on us, we're having ridiculous conversations about whether or not Edward Snowden can be considered a traitor or an American hero.
01:39:20.000The government is indiscriminately collecting our metadata and they are Holding this information for a period of time, and they can use it to intimidate you if you're a political activist or if you're a journalist.
01:39:33.000That intimidation is what cripples our democratic process.
01:39:38.000So I have a lot of problems with that, and I worry that there aren't going to be many journalists left that will do what Michael Hastings was willing to do.
01:40:07.000And the information that's come out has really changed the way people look at the government and how they're handling privacy, how they're handling this idea of the war on terror and what they're willing to do and not willing to do.
01:40:20.000They're willing to violate everything.
01:40:22.000They're willing to go against the very principles of privacy, like every principle of The idea that you're sending someone something, you have a password, you log in, they have a password, they log in.
01:41:23.000I think that is, whether it's a decade from now or two or three or whatever it is, I think there's going to come a point in time where the boundaries between people and information no longer exist.
01:41:33.000I feel like we're going to get to a point where we will just be desensitized to all private information.
01:41:40.000What people worry about most is, let's say you're not a politician, you're just a political activist.
01:41:46.000You might be worried that the government might use some information about you to intimidate you and cause you to not be politically active anymore.
01:41:53.000So it could be something like nude pictures of yourself that you emailed or it could be the porn that you watch or whatever.
01:41:59.000I feel like with the way things are going, eventually we're going to get to a point where all of our dirty laundry is just going to be out there and everyone's going to be like, oh, alright, whatever.
01:42:08.000You know, because you're going to be forced to.
01:42:10.000There's going to be so much crap out there about everyone that you're just going to have to deal with it.
01:42:14.000Well, that's going to be the future, right?
01:42:16.000If it's one generation from now or two generations, whatever it is, those people are going to have no privacy from birth to death.
01:45:09.000If you're comfortable with people sharing your naked picture, because you send a naked picture to a guy, it is over.
01:45:16.000He's going to show it to his friends, and then he might put it online, and he's going to destroy your life.
01:45:21.000And the thing is, we still live in that puritanical society where if that naked picture surfaces at work, you could lose your job as a result of that.
01:48:22.000I think if you're really pretending that if you're a completely non-racist guy and you put some...
01:48:26.000Paint on that makes you look more like an African American, that somehow you're doing something offensive, I think that's silly.
01:48:33.000I think the idea of a white person pretending to be a black person is just as weird as the idea of a black person pretending to be a white person, but who gives a shit?
01:48:40.000If a black guy puts white face on and does that thing that Dave Chappelle used to do in his show where he pretended to be a white man reading the news with white paint on, nobody gave a fuck.
01:48:49.000Yeah, well, white people were not made fun of and discriminated against and freaking lynched and murdered and Did you see Pineapple X Arrest?
01:49:06.000He played a black guy in the entire movie.
01:49:12.000Look, that's a really interesting argument, and I might reconsider my thoughts on it.
01:49:17.000But based on where I stand now, I just feel like...
01:49:21.000Look, I feel really uncomfortable with it just because how society would make fun of black people by making white actors put the black face on and, you know, mimic them and make them seem like they were morons and they were less than.
01:50:47.000There was a story about these two women in England, or two girls in England, and they were dressed as the World Trade Center on fire after the attack.
01:51:20.000I mean, there are some things that you just do not mess with, and that's a perfect example of something you don't mess with, especially considering that there are family members that lost people as a result of those attacks.
01:51:32.000Family members who saw their own family members jumping off those buildings.
01:51:36.000And then you have these two dumbasses wearing this stupid costume Kind of making fun of that situation.
01:51:43.000There are some things you don't mess with and that's a perfect example of it.
01:51:46.000Well, I think it's another example of really dumb people getting together and convincing each other that everything's going to be cool.
01:55:27.000You know, he interviews a lot of artists, and he's really good at getting them to talk and say things maybe ordinarily that they would.
01:55:33.000But, you know, I mean, I think he's also got a much larger audience.
01:55:37.000And there's also a bunch of people behind him that probably would...
01:55:42.000Kind of like want him to talk about certain subjects, but I've, you know, we started this out just on a laptop, and I don't really give a fuck what other people are interested in.
01:59:54.000You know, we don't have a hard time finding guests.
01:59:56.000But yeah, some people are just not, it's not right for them.
02:00:00.000Some people don't want to talk for three hours because if you talk for three hours long enough, people are going to find out who the fuck you really are.
02:00:30.000Everyone's got their little habits and stuff.
02:00:33.000I was talking to my friend about how important it is to be open-minded, especially at this point in our lives, like when we're, you know, willing to meet new people and make new friends and all that other stuff.
02:00:43.000And like, you come across people that have certain habits that are just strange.
02:00:47.000And when I was younger, I'd be like, ugh, like, I just don't want anything to do with this person.
02:03:06.000So if you were dating a guy and you found out that he was into being a furry and he would go to furry conventions and they'd snip each other's fake butts and bounce around like squirrels, you'd be like, that's fine.
02:03:24.000If I was dating and I met a girl and we're hanging out and she's pretty cool and then she's like, well, there's this one thing that I really like to do.
02:03:31.000I like to pretend to be a chipmunk mascot and I put on my chipmunk mascot outfit on and I go to these conventions in Pittsburgh.
02:03:39.000We all fly in with our furry outfits on and we dance around together and we pretend to have sex but no one really penetrates anybody.
02:04:22.000When people start dating each other, this is my thinking on it.
02:04:27.000When people start dating each other, if someone really wants someone to be a part of their life, they might want to do something really weird with them to show them that I do not care.
02:05:20.000If you have to do everything together, that would be my nightmare.
02:05:23.000My goal in life is to find a guy that is comfortable with me living my life and not...
02:05:30.000This dude's right now writing on Twitter, I am comfortable with you living your life.
02:05:36.000I feel like sometimes my issue is I'm too wrapped up in my career bubble and I'm really attracted to independent guys that don't want a girl who's always on him.
02:05:49.000Guys pretend like they don't like that, but they do.
02:05:52.000They want a girl who's all about him all the time and I'm just not that kind of person.
02:05:57.000Especially if you have your own career.
02:06:36.000Like, obviously I don't want a mediocre guy, and obviously I want a guy that I'm physically attracted to, but I do believe that a guy is as faithful as his opportunities.
02:06:53.000It's especially human beings when they're not like If you haven't found someone that enthralls you or someone that you're deeply locked in with, it's real easy to lose a relationship.
02:07:09.000You've got a relationship and you're like, you know what?
02:07:12.000I'm not investing any more time in this.
02:07:26.000That's that thing, that thing that a lot of people want someone to want them.
02:07:30.000And if they're dating an independent woman, they realize, like, this chick, whether she enjoys your company or not, she could do without you, dude, and she's fine.
02:08:30.000They just want to go in there and kick somebody's ass.
02:08:32.000The same way they want to go in there and kick somebody's ass in a fight and not actually be in a fight.
02:08:37.000They don't want to date some girl who's smart, intelligent, is going to see through my bullshit and I can't use all the stuff that I learned in my pickup artist book that I've been reading for the past six months.
02:09:45.000Yeah, it's tough to not be suffocating sometimes if you're scared and you're clinging on to the last piece of wood you found floating in the ocean after the horrible wreck of the last X amount of years of your life.
02:09:59.000You're not just running into a person.
02:10:00.000You're running into a person that's just getting back on their feet from some whatever fucking disaster, whatever it was, whatever breakup, whatever home repossession, lost job.
02:10:10.000What is the crisis that you just recently survived and just washed up on shore and now you're meeting that person?
02:10:16.000You meet someone in their 30s, oh my god, you're meeting a lot of shit.
02:10:25.000I mean, there's the bright side of it.
02:10:27.000Some people, because of all those disasters, they develop character, they understand what's good and not good, how they should behave, what are the ramifications of different kinds of behaviors.
02:10:55.000I just, I feel like it's better to, look, if you don't meet someone that makes you feel good about yourself and you do the same for them, I feel like it's just better to be alone and live your life and wait.
02:11:07.000Be an old lady with a lot of cats and a vibrator.
02:11:19.000They've come up with one now that allows you to have sex.
02:11:22.000It connects you to some sort of an artificial thing that's like a fleshlight that's moving up at No, I know nothing about that.
02:11:29.000But I have read stories about robots that they're creating that are very lifelike, so women will be useless in 10 years or something when these are perfected in Japan.
02:11:39.000I'm kidding about the women being useless part.
02:11:41.000For some men, there will be something that they won't have the effort to pursue anymore.
02:12:15.000You know, if they look like super hot in their robots, but hanging out with them, there's going to come a point in time where you realize that this is just a bunch of circuits.
02:12:39.000And going back to the necessity of human interaction, in some Asian countries, prostitutes offer something called the girlfriend experience.
02:12:49.000And they probably do that here in the United States too, but I distinctly remember talking about it in Korea, I believe.
02:12:55.000And they don't just have sex with the guys.
02:12:58.000In some cases, they never have sex with the guys.
02:13:00.000The guys will pay for the girl to be like a girlfriend where she's nurturing and caring and cuddles with him and watches movies with him and stuff like that.
02:13:09.000And that actually gave me a little bit of faith in humanity because that showed me that there are people out there that just want that connection.
02:13:17.000They want more than that physical, raw interaction.
02:13:45.000I think that guys, they like to pretend like they don't have any emotional connection or want that emotional connection, but a lot of them want.
02:14:31.000So, like, there was a thing recently where a woman was, like, making $90 an hour cuddling with people.
02:14:37.000She was, like, hiring herself out to cuddle with people.
02:14:40.000I mean, I couldn't do it, but make money.
02:14:43.000All I was thinking of, like, what a dangerous situation that is for the girl to be with some man holding on to her, like, in, like, very close proximity.
02:14:51.000Like, how many guys are just going to start beating off on her back?
02:14:54.000You know, how many guys are going to be cuddling with her and try to rape her?
02:14:57.000It's like, I wouldn't trust a guy to cuddle with him like that.
02:15:05.000Look, I don't know what the legality of that is, but it does go back to the whole prostitution issue and how important it is to legalize and regulate it and create a safe environment for women to do that type of stuff so you can actually mitigate or minimize those types of instances where a guy will be abusive or do something degrading or demeaning.
02:15:23.000The worry is also, I mean always, that you're promoting it and that if you make prostitution legal and the people are going to go to prostitution that would never go to prostitution before.
02:15:43.000I just feel like people who want to have relations with a prostitute are going to do it anyway.
02:15:49.000And if legalizing prostitution somehow convinces someone who wouldn't otherwise go to a prostitute to go through with it, then okay, like there are worse things in the world.
02:16:01.000I'm obviously playing devil's advocate.
02:16:02.000But what was it that being on the show changed where you had this shift in your attitude about legalized prostitution?
02:16:08.000I worried about the safety of the women that put themselves in that situation and also the safety of men that put themselves in that situation.
02:16:14.000Because if you regulate it, you can ensure that these women are getting tested for STDs.
02:16:20.000You don't want a bunch of people getting AIDS or other sexually transmitted diseases.
02:16:27.000A regulated industry in this case would be much better than criminalizing it and allowing people to harm themselves or Be put in a harmful situation.
02:16:38.000And on top of that, here's another thing I don't want to do.
02:16:40.000I don't want to waste our resources on incarcerating people for these so-called sex crimes.
02:16:45.000Because I don't see prostitution as a sex crime.
02:17:45.000Like, if you are married and, um, you'd- well, you are married, but, like, if you were to go to a massage parlor and get that done, would that be considered cheating?
02:17:53.000I definitely think it would get you in a lot of trouble.
02:17:56.000Of course it would get you into a lot of trouble.
02:17:59.000It seems like someone would not be happy about that, but it would be awesome if they were.
02:18:04.000What if they wore a mask, like one of those Mexican wrestlers?
02:18:06.000You don't even know what they look like.
02:18:08.000You go in there with a wolfman mask on, and they can dress like a Mexican wrestler.
02:19:03.000Yeah, it's one of those weird things where we've decided that people can do it for free and no one gets hurt.
02:19:11.000But if they do it for money, It's illegal.
02:19:15.000And the logic behind it is very weird, and the logic behind the laws are, you know, there's morality ideas, there's ethics ideas, but the reality is that money is going to be changing hands whether you like it or not,
02:19:31.000and most likely it's not going to get taxed unless it's legal.
02:19:34.000It's just going to move into the economy in some sort of a weird way.
02:19:39.000But the government in that, and also in drug laws, they're fucking themselves out of massive amounts of revenue.
02:20:09.000And when you look at the war on drugs, specifically the war on marijuana, very little of it has to do with stopping people from using these drugs.
02:20:17.000Most of it has to do with paying for correctional officers, paying for private prisons, Paying for private contractors, even private contractors abroad who continue to amplify the war on drugs.
02:20:31.000People are making a ton of money off this prohibition, which is why it continues and it'll never stop.
02:20:36.000And I love that we're seeing the snowball effect with the legalization of recreational marijuana or recreational use of marijuana.
02:20:44.000There was recently a small town in the East Coast that legalized it.
02:20:55.000And it was more of a symbolic thing because, of course, state laws and federal laws will trump whatever municipal laws have been passed.
02:21:03.000But I love that now politicians are forced to pay attention to the polls and make changes because we're spending untold amounts of money just incarcerating people for simple marijuana possession.
02:21:18.000It is, and the real problem with the war on drugs being, when you have marijuana illegal, it means you're not getting that tax money from it, just like you're not getting it from prostitution.
02:21:30.000It's going to make its way into the economy in some ways, like in BC and British Columbia, there's a huge issue because a giant chunk of their economy is based on marijuana, but yet marijuana is illegal.
02:21:41.000They arrest people, but then let them go.
02:21:43.000There's a lot of weird fucking games going on up there.
02:21:46.000But because it's illegal, they're not getting their taxes from it.
02:21:55.000They call it The Union, when they talk about all the different marijuana growers in B.C. They're a multi-billion dollar part of the economy up there.
02:22:05.000So it's this weird hypocrisy that's going on, where you have this thing that's a huge part of why everybody's doing well, and that thing's illegal, and that thing's hurting no one.
02:22:15.000And by the way, because it's illegal, you're not getting your cut.
02:22:18.000Do you know about the Schaefer Report?
02:22:33.000So he commissioned, I believe he was a governor at the time, he was a politician with the last name Schaefer, to do the study on marijuana.
02:23:36.000It's very scary that not only do you have private prisons, but you have private prison lobbies and you have guard lobbies where prison guards make sure that certain things stay illegal so that they can ensure that they have work.
02:24:25.000You're locking them up, and that's better than getting money from them while they're working?
02:24:29.000Well, we're doing the same thing with people who are undocumented immigrants, right?
02:24:33.000So they'll come into this country, they're undocumented, we find out they're undocumented, and instead of deporting them, which is what we used to do, we will detain them for X amount of years and spend our resources on imprisoning them.
02:24:57.000Why would you want to incarcerate them and spend tax dollars on that, especially when we're having this huge issue with public education right now?
02:25:19.000There was a long time where immigrants were, their children of immigrants, or immigrants that came over and their children were born in Mexico but lived their entire lives here in America, they weren't allowed to go to college.
02:25:58.000I hate the argument that they don't pay taxes.
02:26:01.000In a lot of cases, especially in California, I mean, they pay taxes in the form of, first of all, they pay Social Security, but then they never get a dime of that Social Security later, right?
02:26:10.000So they're contributing to the Social Security system.
02:26:12.000And on top of that, they're paying for state taxes as well, or sales taxes.
02:27:33.000And you might just get there while these cartel members are dropping off headless bodies and lining them up on the street with signs on them.
02:27:39.000Or, you know, you might see a brothel where you can go fuck some immigrant for a dollar that made their way up from El Salvador or Peru or, you know, where Mexico is the promised land for them.
02:27:57.000The extreme intense poverty and extreme intense violence and we're just sort of like not dealing with it.
02:28:04.000We're not dealing with it, but we're actually fueling that type of system here in the United States.
02:28:09.000By keeping marijuana legal, we certainly are.
02:28:12.000By keeping marijuana legal and also through our current fiscal policy, you know, by allowing companies like Walmart To basically pay full-time employees so little that the government has to subsidize their health care or food stamps,
02:28:28.000whatever it is, just so they can make ends meet.
02:28:30.000We have that system here now, and we need to do something to change it.
02:28:35.000Well, it's exactly what they were protesting about during the WTO thing.
02:28:48.000It was all about how this is like an established pattern of behavior and, you know, this agent provocateur thing that they do to break up peaceful protests.
02:28:56.000The World Trade Organization meeting was just about that very thing.
02:28:59.000It was about moving jobs to these other places and figuring out how to set up shop in third world countries.
02:29:07.000Yeah, I don't know how that's going to get fixed.
02:29:09.000When you cover this stuff on a daily basis, you guys are covering more serious issues than we are.
02:29:16.000We're basically just fucking around and finding things on the internet that I find are interesting.
02:29:20.000But you guys are covering some pretty legit stories and getting pretty...
02:29:24.000Do you see any light at the end of the tunnel?
02:29:26.000Do you see a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for all this?
02:29:29.000I do see a light at the end of the tunnel, but we really need a revolution.
02:29:34.000And I'm not calling for violence and I'm not inciting violence, but I think that there has to come a point where we hit rock bottom and the political activism actually makes a difference.
02:29:46.000You know, the political activism needs to exist to begin with, by the way, because it doesn't even exist now.
02:29:51.000I mean, we're at a point where the government can literally do whatever it wants and no one will make a peep out of it.
02:29:58.000The Obama administration can go drop a drone or do a drone strike on an American citizen and his 16-year-old son, and no one will say a Damn thing about it.
02:30:10.000That's the country we're living in right now.
02:30:12.000Our civil liberties are being destroyed.
02:30:56.000But I mean, most of these stories are important news stories.
02:30:59.000Yeah, there's a lot of bullshit sprinkled in there.
02:31:01.000But a huge problem is, you know, every American...
02:31:05.000I have the luxury of keeping up with this stuff because it's my job.
02:31:09.000A lot of Americans don't have that luxury because they're working 12-hour work days.
02:31:14.000You know, they're working a few different jobs just to provide for their families.
02:31:18.000Who the hell is going to go home after a long day of work, sit down and read all of these news stories, much less understand the nuance of these news stories?
02:31:28.000That's a difficult thing to do, and it's a lot to ask of the American people.
02:31:31.000But the way that you can fix that is by creating a media, a form of media that That is informative with no corporate interest.
02:31:41.000Because right now, the gold standard of news is still the MSNBC, CNN, Fox News.
02:32:04.000But hopefully new media will grow to the point where it'll take over that system and it'll, you know, educate people enough to where they will want to stand up for their rights and they will want to be politically active.
02:32:15.000I'm teaching a class at Cal State Northridge right now.
02:32:28.000And I remember when I first started teaching the class, I asked every single one of the students to tell me what they find most interesting in media.
02:32:39.000And the vast majority of them were like, entertainment news, sports news, you know, stuff that's really easy to cover and very profitable.
02:32:46.000So I don't blame them for wanting to do that.
02:32:48.000But I wanted to instill in them a type of intellectual curiosity where they would want to know about what's going on in the political world, where they would want to be these mini political activists.
02:32:59.000And I don't do it in the sense that I tell them, hey, you got to be progressive.
02:33:05.000But I want them to look at news stories critically and And question the way that they're being covered.
02:33:10.000So that's like my little tiny bit of trying to make a difference, and I love doing that.
02:33:16.000Being an instructor at a university is a very thankless job.
02:33:19.000I've learned that this semester since it's my first time doing it.
02:33:22.000But you've got to start by changing the way people learn about journalism, changing the way they cover stories, and you've got to get people to be critical thinkers.
02:34:03.000Do you feel like, because, I mean, you do this for a living, but do you think that you can even keep up with all the shit that's happening on a daily basis?
02:34:23.000I think it's overwhelming, but I don't think it's impossible.
02:34:27.000As a responsibility, how much do you have a responsibility to be informed?
02:34:30.000Not you, but a regular person with a regular job and a family, and God forbid if you have a fucking hobby.
02:34:36.000But if you're working on something during the day, what are the odds that you can pay attention to the top ten news stories of the day and form a really clear opinion on any of them?
02:34:56.000Like, how much time do we spend on social media?
02:34:59.000How much time do we spend watching reality shows?
02:35:01.000And doing things that we want to do because we just want to shut our brains off.
02:35:05.000We want to numb ourselves to what's going on in the world, right?
02:35:08.000Instead of doing that, maybe we should change the culture so people will want to use that very precious time and that very precious resource to be informed.
02:35:16.000They want to use it for that as opposed to being distracted.
02:35:20.000I think the problem that people have with...
02:35:23.000Being informed over being distracted is that it's incredibly frustrating and you feel helpless.
02:35:28.000When you start reading all these stories about the stock market manipulations, about the banks being bailed out and about bailouts where the fucking people that were involved in the bailout somehow or another warranted some crazy commission.
02:35:41.000They got some bonus and then the president says he's going to limit to a half a million dollars.
02:35:46.000A fucking half a million dollars is a lot of money, man.
02:35:48.000What do you mean you're limiting it to a half a million?
02:35:50.000Didn't we just give them a ton of money?
02:35:51.000You feel helpless when you read about this shit over and over and over again.
02:35:55.000When you watch documentaries on fracking, when you read stories in the news about how poorly veterans are being taken care of when they come back from war.
02:36:05.000There's so many different things that you read that doesn't make sense.
02:36:09.000I know, but when you look at all of these news stories, there's always one underlying issue in every news story.
02:36:17.000And it always goes back to who is funding these politicians, right?
02:36:23.000If you get the money out of politics, that virus, if you destroy that virus, things will change quickly because our representatives will be forced to pay attention to the American people, the people that are voting for them, as opposed to the people who are paying them.
02:36:37.000If you get rid of that type of bribery that we're dealing with right now, the entire system needs to be changed.
02:36:44.000Unquestionably, but how does that ever happen?
02:36:47.000You have to get them to change it themselves as well.
02:37:01.000They're obviously very much bought by corporations, and as a result, it's really difficult for them to propose any real change.
02:37:09.000But when it comes to the state level, when it comes to state legislators, it's a little different.
02:37:13.000So we actually managed to get a state representative from Texas to propose a resolution for a constitutional convention.
02:37:20.000It goes back to what I was saying earlier about Wolfpack.
02:37:23.000And if we get state representatives from all the states to agree to this constitutional convention, Then we can actually have this constitutional amendment to get money out of politics.
02:37:42.000Well, I hope you're right and I'm very hopeful.
02:37:46.000I think that it's incredibly difficult to get venom out of the system.
02:37:51.000Once it's in there, it's in there pretty deep.
02:37:54.000It's going to be very hard to heal this poisoned system.
02:37:58.000And the people that are accustomed to extracting money, that's a giant part of their motivation for being in the position when they're in the first place.
02:38:07.000Now all of a sudden they're there and they can't extract money anymore?
02:38:10.000They're going to go, what kind of hippie bullshit is this?
02:38:14.000All of a sudden, they're going to have to pay attention to the people that voted for them.
02:39:09.000He believes that there's so many dangerous people in the world that Obama got into office, then immediately realized how fucking scary the world is, and then started tightening down drone attacks, cut down on whistleblowers, surveillance ups,
02:39:25.000all the things that he did once he got into office.
02:39:27.000What explains that, his reversal on Guantanamo Bay.
02:39:30.000He believes that it's because the stack of papers that he gets on his desk every day of memos telling them what's been avoided, how fucked up the world is, what dangers we're facing on a regular basis, who we need to attack before they attack us, that they're just trying to avoid another 9-11.
02:39:46.000I don't know if I'm really buying that argument.
02:39:49.000I think that we have this military-industrial complex, and I think that Obama does not want to seem weak when it comes to national security.
02:39:57.000So as a result, he will do things that are extreme.
02:40:00.000I mean, if you're really concerned about national security, it's very curious for you to go about keeping the country safe.
02:40:06.000by causing so much hostility toward the U.S. Think about that.
02:40:11.000We are bombing and doing drone strikes on innocent civilians abroad.
02:40:16.000That creates hostility toward the United States.
02:42:13.000Did you just read a front page article in Salon for five seconds and now all of a sudden you're going to tell us what's wrong with the world?
02:42:20.000What they do is try to appear liberal.
02:45:25.000Yeah, I think that one of the things that this shift that's happening with information, one of the things that's going to be very fascinating about this erosion of privacy is that you're going to get real honest politicians because they have no choice.
02:45:41.000You know, what's amazing though is you'll have politicians that are on the record saying one thing and then like a few months later they backpedal or they say something or flip-flop and they say something completely different and they deny that they did a flip-flop.
02:45:53.000And it's like Mitt Romney is an example of that.
02:45:56.000There was evidence indicating that Mitt Romney supported Planned Parenthood.
02:45:59.000And then when he was running for president, he's like, I will shut Planned Parenthood down.
02:46:03.000It's like, you're on the record, dude.
02:46:17.000He's still in denial of his family living over in Mexico.
02:46:20.000Remember he was talking about that very briefly during the campaign, that his father actually was born in Mexico and everybody was like, what?
02:46:28.000And then you get deep into it and you find like, oh, your dad was in a sex cult.
02:46:44.000Yeah, I mean, he had health care in Massachusetts that's very similar to the Affordable Care Act, and then he went off and started criticizing the Affordable Care Act.
02:46:56.000Yeah, he would have fucked up as soon as he got in office, too.
02:46:58.000I think all of them, once they get in there, they just get taken down.
02:47:03.000They get sat down and they get spelled out how the world really works.
02:47:09.000And they probably have hints of it before they actually get in there.
02:47:12.000But once they get in there and they meet with the fucking Bilderberg Group and they meet with the international bankers that control the world's economy and they just realize the depth of the puzzle, that's why they all go gray, like instantly.
02:48:10.000As long as our system is dealing with that virus, as long as our system has the money in politics, it doesn't matter if you're voting for a Democrat or a Republican.
02:48:20.000They might be different with social issues.
02:48:22.000They might be a little different when it comes to fiscal policy, although Obama is not a good example of him being different when it comes to fiscal policy.
02:48:30.000They're not different when it comes to international policy.
02:48:34.000I'm a little happier when a Democrat's in office because of what I think they do socially.
02:48:40.000When it comes to things like gay marriage or things like right to choose and things along those lines.
02:48:46.000I feel like when you have a Republican in office, those things tend to get squashed.
02:48:52.000And I think that's one of the benefits of having a Democrat in office.
02:48:57.000You get more equality, especially when you're dealing with a Democrat who also happens to be black.
02:49:48.000I'm not saying that you go to porn websites, but I'm saying anybody out there, perverts, you weirdos, have you ever gone to one and you found out there's too many people on the server crashed?
02:50:08.000So the one thing that I will agree on in terms of it being a clusterfuck is only 50,000 Americans have signed up through the website, which could be disastrous.
02:50:19.000Because in order for the Affordable Care Act to work, you need people to sign up.
02:50:22.000Yeah, I have doubled that on my Instagram page, bitch.
02:50:42.000I think I have like 40. But I'm sure a lot of them are fake.
02:50:45.000I haven't ever paid for any that are fake, but there's a lot of bots out there and a lot of people that use fake Twitter accounts to inflate things.
02:51:16.000It's so funny because, you know, going back to the class that I'm teaching, one of my students looked me up and she's like, holy shit, you have all these followers and you're verified.
02:51:25.000I'm like, oh, does that make me more legitimate now because I have like a verified Twitter account?
02:51:34.000If someone says, hey man, I want to come on your podcast, and I go to their page and they have 212 Twitter followers, I'm like, bitch, 212 followers.
02:53:22.000That's when they become mutually exclusive.
02:53:23.000Well, I think it's one of those things where there's certain people that don't want other people behaving differently than them.
02:53:30.000Especially if they feel like they're being judged by the fact that you're wearing makeup and you have heels on and they don't like that, then they get judged.
02:53:37.000Well, then they start turning that against you.
02:53:39.000Instead of saying, look, hey, it's different strokes for different folks.
02:53:43.000Some people like this, some people like that.
02:53:44.000Instead of that, they look to you like you're some sort of a traitor.
02:53:48.000Meanwhile, those same people, if it was a man that was wearing makeup and wearing a dress, wearing high heels, they would go, you go, girl.
02:53:55.000They would be happy for you because that's the progressive move.
02:53:59.000If it's a transgender person, a man who became a woman and wants to wear long nails and wants to be really dainty and feminine, that's all well and groovy.
02:54:08.000Yeah, but when a woman is dainty and feminine.
02:56:38.000Yeah, I think there's also an issue where people, they feel uncomfortable if they're not seen as attractive, and so they try to squash other things that people think are attractive.
02:56:52.000They try to belittle attempts at being attractive.
02:56:58.000I mean, I think there's an issue in that as well.
02:57:00.000If there wasn't an issue in that, and if you're a type of person that likes wearing Chuck Taylors and loose jeans and t-shirts, what do you care if a woman is wearing a bikini on a beach?
02:57:09.000What do you care if someone wears a miniskirt?
02:57:23.000I mean, yeah, you put yourself in a vulnerable position if you walk around wearing a bikini and you're walking down Main Street and you have fucking high heels on.
02:57:30.000You're going to run into a lot of weird people.
02:57:32.000You're kind of giving them a green light to get freaky with you.
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