On this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, we're joined by Roseanne Barr, who lives on a volcano in the middle of the ocean on the Big Island of Hawaii. We talk about her life growing up on the island, the history of the Stoned Ape theory, and the amazing people on Mauna Kea. We also get into some of the crazy things that have been going on in the Hawaiian Islands, and some of our favorite places in the world. It's a wild ride, and we hope you enjoy it as much as we did making it. Joe and Roseanne are joined by the amazing Roseanne Barbour, who is a legend in her own right. She's a trailblazer in the psychedelic and psychedelic community, and she's got a mind-blowing story about how she got her start in this crazy world. We hope you all enjoy this episode, and don't forget to check out the rest of the show on the pod! if you haven't already, go check it out! If you're a fan of the podcast, be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and tell us what you think of the episode and what you're looking forward to in the future episodes. We'll be looking out for you in next week's episode! Thank you so much for listening and supporting the show! Cheers, Joe & Roseanne! -Jonah - and the crew at The Joe Rogans Experience. Logo by Courtney DeKorte and the team at The Root Project. Music by Skate Parrothead Productions, Inc. and the Crew at Skate Shop, Inc., and the Skate House Project, LLC. Thank You for all the love and support, and thanks for all your support and support and all the hard work you're giving us your support, thank you for making this podcast a chance to make this podcast possible. -ROSEANNA BONUS EPISODE, ROSEANNE BRANDS, RYANNE BARRELLA, AND THE MALAYA AND KELLY PODCAST, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORTING THE JOE ROGA AND THEMSELVES AND GRABSYNNE AND JOE JOSEPH AND THE JOKER EPISODES, AND SO MUCH MORE! -ROSSEAN SPEAKER AND JOSH AND GABE BOWLER!
00:05:05.000Well, you are more at peace there, I think, because everyone sort of knows it's isolated and you also know that you really are on a volcano, this beautiful, natural volcano.
00:05:15.000Well, I went there because they got a goddess named Pele, and that's like one of the last places on Earth where there's like, you know, a goddess that is active in people's minds and also active inside a volcano that might erupt at any time,
00:07:20.000And when you have people that are just getting away with doing genetic modifications on plants, not really sure of the long-term ramifications to the environment, to bees, there's a host of different things that are affected by these things.
00:07:33.000Well, I thought I did a pretty good checkmate on Monsanto, which I call Monsatan.
00:07:41.000I thought I got them in a chokehold like that bitch you were talking about, that fighting.
00:07:55.000Well, they were trying to pass a law or to get rid of a law, which took a lot of work getting there to make law, which was to, you know, that the people did not want the GMO studies to continue on the island.
00:08:09.000And, you know, so it's like you got to vote yes, but it really means no.
00:08:13.000And I mean, it was like layer after layer of ridiculousness to protect public health.
00:08:21.000So I just started studying it and I realized that they kept on doing that fake science thing that they do.
00:08:29.000But it's like, hey, science lasts more than 90 days.
00:10:05.000I think we've definitely fucked a lot of things up, and there's definitely a lot of hubris going on, and there's a lot of scary shit going on, like Fukushima.
00:10:12.000Fukushima's bad, and they just had a new study showing that a lot of radiation started to reach San Francisco.
00:10:19.000You know, they've found a 3% increase in some of the tuna, the radiation in tuna.
00:11:25.000Come up with some kind of an implant for people's teeth or brain that blocks that horrendous lemming fucking impulse.
00:11:34.000Do fucking humanity a favor and figure out how we're supposed to get rid of that shit that we keep going along with what's killing us because we're too fucking confused to know what in the fuck is really real.
00:11:47.000Isn't it just that there's just too much to be paying attention to?
00:11:50.000People have their own lives, they have their own problems, their own bills, their own family, and then try paying attention to global issues like genetically modified foods and farmers suing all across the world.
00:12:01.000The farmers in Brazil recently won billions of dollars from Monsanto.
00:12:06.000Farmers in India commit suicide on an almost daily basis.
00:12:09.000I mean, they have farmers in India that are committing suicide left and right because of the debt that they get into with these crazy deals.
00:12:35.000They're getting fucking insurance payoffs for killing people, you know, and taking bets on how long it'll take for them to die.
00:12:44.000See, on the other hand, I think the idea of genetically modifying food in order to help people eat more nutritious food, like golden rice, there's been a bunch of innovation as far as...
00:12:54.000I think there's a lot of beauty in the science behind it, but I think we've got to be really, really, really fucking careful when you're playing around with nature, too.
00:15:22.000They could actually make stuff, all that technology, everything that it took to create the actual...
00:15:31.000The science of increasing food for people and desalinization of water and all these things that are so possible for just a few greedy fucks and their trons.
00:15:48.000I've always said that if you could just take the amount of money that the United States gave to Halliburton to rebuild Iraq after we destroyed it and put that money in the inner cities in America and not have the war, not destroy anything in the first place, the amount of positive work that could have been done and the same amount of contracts could have been dealt out.
00:16:45.000The FBI and the CIA, the reason why Petraeus got kicked, removed from office, is the CIA was being spied on by the fucking FBI. Well, that's what NSA... They can't even...
00:16:55.000That's what all NSA is, them spying on each other.
00:18:35.000My friend was taking the Adderall, but the drop-off at the end of the day was too much for him.
00:18:39.000It was really starting to drive him crazy because he would feel great throughout the day and be very productive, and then he'd have this big drop-off.
00:18:44.000Well, that's when you start your drinking.
00:18:48.000I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Adderall, but I am saying a lot of people that are getting a lot of shit done are taking Adderall.
00:23:49.000I think that, especially if people started eating it, they started eating it and getting the self-objective, self-analytical experience, really intense experiences, people would be a lot less prone to continue a lot of their shitty behavior.
00:24:01.000That was McKenna's theory of evolution in the first place.
00:24:05.000Yeah, it was all about psilocybin mushrooms in the rainforests of Africa, how the rainforests had receded into grasslands.
00:24:12.000And all this is proved by, you know, climatological studies, core samples and stuff like that.
00:24:16.000The time has been debated, but essentially what happened was the rainforest receded, monkeys came down from the trees and started experimenting with different food sources, and one of them was the mushrooms growing on cow patties.
00:24:33.000If we get intense ideas from them and we have an advanced brain and a monkey gets intense experiences from them, they obviously have intelligent brains.
00:24:40.000I mean, we've seen chimps do a lot of really crazy creative things.
00:25:01.000That and hemp and all these different things, if they were made available, I think we are lacking in self-analysis.
00:25:08.000And we are lacking as a society in our feeling of being responsible for the actions of the group.
00:25:13.000And those are two things that you feel when you're on psychedelics.
00:25:16.000Also, it's so arrogant, too, because we just ignore what everything means to other people.
00:25:24.000We don't want to know what Anything means to other people.
00:25:30.000We don't care, as long as we can make money.
00:25:32.000It's like if you're gonna go to the rainforest and chop down these people's sacred trees and villages and, you know, force them to work in factories instead.
00:25:39.000If they're willing to do it, then we're gonna get them to do it because we want those trees.
00:25:42.000We want that oil and whatever the fuck else is there that we can make medicine out of.
00:25:47.000I mean, what they're doing is just stealing resources.
00:26:35.000You know, you have to because just as far as like for the sake of our understanding of ourselves, having people like that with these ancient, ancient, untouched cultures is so important.
00:26:49.000We can learn so much about the origins of certain behaviors, about group thinking when you're in small tribes that count on each other, about how they dealt with injuries and medicine.
00:26:58.000I mean, these are fascinating, fascinating discoveries to be had.
00:27:03.000They just want to be able to chop the trees down, fuck these weird people, take their shit and throw them in a cage or throw them in a camp.
00:27:08.000Well, you know, capitalism is like that.
00:27:12.000Unless, you know, unless human beings with brains, you know, get it under control as a tool of people and not its master, it'll continue to go that way because it requires that.
00:28:36.000They could, like, use the same fucking ridiculous infrastructure that already exists to, like, make things better for everybody and could get the food to the hungry people because there's—really, that's all it is, is the roads that get the food to the hungry people.
00:28:54.000That's 90% of everybody who's dying is dying because of waste and stupidity.
00:29:00.000Now, if they fix that, they're going to get 10 times fucking richer.
00:29:05.000But they're not greedy fucking pigs enough.
00:29:16.000They're lacking in humanity, and that's why when you talk about pot being what could fix everything or psychedelics being what could fix things, that's the only thing that's going to bring humanity to a giant group that thinks that it's okay.
00:29:28.000To be completely diffused of responsibilities because you're a part of some gigantic machine that apparently no one can control now.
00:29:34.000So if you're a giant machine like Monsanto that's been fucking over farmers for 100,000 years or however long they've been around for, to stop that, to stop that whole thing, you're going to have to get the whole team high on mushrooms.
00:31:42.000Well, I tried to look for a school to put for my kid because, you know, my kid, he's 18 now, but he was little and he needed to go to a school that had focus because I don't have any focus so I wasn't able to teach him how to focus or else he was born that way or some shit.
00:36:01.000I don't know, but just the fact that this exists, just the fact that this life that we live in, where we can communicate with our mouth, where we can see with our eyes, where we walk around and drive around and fly in planes, this life is so fucking insane and so crazy and bizarre and fantastic.
00:36:18.000Just the idea that this existence exists, where we shut off every night for eight hours and completely vanish from the reality that we live in, and then we do it willingly, and then we come back in the morning and we start all over again.
00:36:30.000That alone is fucking fantastic and bizarre and strange.
00:36:38.000I'm not convinced that this whole thing isn't just one series of wake-ups and goes to sleep and wakes up and while you're conscious and while you're alive.
00:36:46.000I'm not convinced that you're in the same timeline that you were on before.
00:38:23.000He was happy you stopped him for a guest set.
00:38:26.000And then he goes, that's an old line, because he said Jay and David and everybody had already called him, but he was still writing jokes, you know?
00:38:34.000Right at the very end of it, writing a fucking joke.
00:39:40.000Yeah, stole all the Bureau of Indian Affairs money, $30 billion.
00:39:45.000Well, those casinos are fucking, the whole situation is crazy because it's not like it's all Native Americans that own and operate those places.
00:39:52.000Other people are involved, too, that are profiting off of these casinos that are in places where it's supposed to be illegal.
00:40:33.000Mostly 50. Or it could be your grandparents, too, 25. But it has to be pretty 50-50.
00:40:40.000Like in Hawaii, one thing I think is so cool is that they do have a lot of affordable housing for the First Nations people there, you know, the Hawaiian people.
00:40:49.000And they get their, like, guarantee of school.
00:40:51.000And, like, they got, you know, Hawaii, the Big Island, Hawaii, is a fantastic socialist state.
00:40:58.000And, you know, I think that it's just going to make the big turnaround real quick because China just said no GMOs, so we kicked their ass out.
00:41:08.000So now I think we're going to, like, have a boom, but we do need some of that technology because I think we want to grow organic seeds with help.
00:41:18.000We don't want to reinvent the organic seed.
00:41:22.000We want to grow organics with technology.
00:41:24.000So it's an incredible new time of mixing the best of everything.
00:41:34.000So what you're talking about is not genetically modifying the foods, but using technology to more efficiently till the soil, more efficiently irrigate the crops, more efficiently put nutrients into the ground, things along those lines, right?
00:41:50.000Well, not only that, the stuff that we know the cause and effect of, we know it's healthy, we know it's a part of the ecosystem, we know that there's just a rich biodiversity when it comes to any place where something's growing.
00:42:00.000There's bugs involved and rodents involved and bees.
00:42:34.000But I think now it's been tilted to where it's going to become more and more, you know, moving towards 100% organic.
00:42:44.000No pesticides and this and that and the other.
00:42:46.000But in order to do that, you've got to reverse a lot of things.
00:42:49.000Like, you can't let them be spraying overhead anymore.
00:42:52.000They can't be spraying aluminum and barium all day if you're going to grow.
00:42:56.000Are you saying Chemtrails, the aluminum barium shit?
00:42:59.000You know, I did a whole sci-fi special on that, a sci-fi channel, a whole episode dedicated to Chemtrails, and the more I paid attention to it, the more I think that people are very confused as to what's going on.
00:43:10.000The government, I guarantee without a doubt, has sprayed things on people.
00:43:17.000I believe it was Detroit that was a recent thing they talked about doing it in the 1950s.
00:43:21.000They did tests to see what would happen if the Communists came over here and did some sort of a nuclear attack on the population or a poisonous gas attack.
00:43:31.000I mean, they sprayed particles so they could track them.
00:43:34.000They don't know what the fuck that's going to do to people.
00:43:36.000They've done experiments on the weather.
00:43:39.000They figured out how to cloud seeding by just doing it.
00:43:41.000I mean, they knew the science behind it, but it's not like they had a vote on the entire world and asked people, hey, can we seed clouds?
00:44:10.000When you have a jet engine and it burns jet fuel and it's going through the atmosphere, it's creating moisture.
00:44:17.000And in conditions where it's almost cloud-like, like very hazy, when a jet engine pass through this change of atmosphere and adding moisture creates a cloud.
00:44:27.000So when you see those patterns and people go, oh, they're spraying us.
00:44:31.000No, they're actually creating a cloud with the natural effect of a jet engine passing through a certain amount of humidity.
00:44:38.000That's why you see them in some days, but other days you don't see them.
00:49:35.000So they think if there is a planet out there, a something out there that these people are trying to describe, then more likely it's like a brown dwarf star.
00:49:52.000Well, there could be somewhere if there is us.
00:49:55.000If there's us, there could be somewhere.
00:49:56.000The real problem with the alien thing is that everyone you talk to that says they've met aliens or they know aliens are real, they're almost all fucked up.
00:50:22.000I think if you're smart enough to come here and be an alien, you're smart enough to also take a human form.
00:50:27.000I mean, we have fucking camouflage that we put on jets where you can't see them on radar.
00:50:31.000You know, we have hunters that wear, you know, clothes that look like trees and they stand and no one even sees them.
00:50:36.000It's real obvious they could pretend to be a person.
00:50:39.000If you're so smart you could get here from the planet, fuck yourself, a billion trillion light years away, why can't you pretend to be a person?
00:51:20.000They're close, but it's not going to trick me.
00:51:22.000Well, that's just what they're showing you.
00:51:24.000But they're 50 years ahead of that shit.
00:51:26.000The problem with that kind of thinking is the people that are in control...
00:51:30.000They have the whole Republican thing sewed up forever.
00:51:34.000The people that are in control are not smart enough to create all this stuff.
00:51:38.000This stuff has to be created by scientists.
00:51:40.000The scientists, it's all documented stuff.
00:51:43.000Like everything that's being done, all the stuff that's being done today is all based on the technology that's been created by geniuses Yeah.
00:52:15.000It's just that they haven't figured out a way to make it so profitable that it's more profitable than destroying the environment and stealing people's resources and leaving behind horrible pollution.
00:52:25.000Because that's profitable, that's the way they're doing it.
00:52:28.000The real problem is that corporations are allowed to act like this.
00:52:50.000What I was saying that you reacted to was that they need to figure out how to still remain human.
00:52:57.000And that the problem is when you have a corporation, you have this big giant group of people that's allowed to act And make money without any consideration.
00:53:55.000Here's my solution because I like to think of solutions rather than just yap about problems like the left and the right because they're fucking idiots who can't invent anything.
00:54:04.000But, you know, I think we could fix everything in a real big fat fucking hurry.
00:54:11.000We could fix the economic system if we wanted to.
00:54:14.000Well, we just put fucking regulations on it.
00:54:16.000All the things that existed, you know, before Reagan took them away and sold us down the fucking river.
00:54:44.000It was just a brilliant and insightful view on how these problems occur, who profits, how these people that start out as...
00:54:54.000People who are the educators who are recommending, the economic professors that are recommending certain standards, and then those standards get passed, and these guys wind up getting giant jobs with the very banks that profited from them changing the regulations.
00:55:57.000We have the direct line that we learned about the kind of regulations that Reagan had stopped and what happened from then to the Bush administration.
00:56:06.000We know all that stuff now, but- They just moved public money into private pockets.
00:56:12.000And, you know, they made laws that made it possible for them to do that.
00:56:16.000But what was so incredible about it is that it seems that, and this is why I ran for president, because it was like, when are they going to put an American person, like a working American person,
00:56:36.000In a seat at those tables where money is apportioned, will that ever happen?
00:56:41.000You mean a person that represents the average person, the average folks?
00:56:44.000Yeah, of the public, of John and Joan Q. Public.
00:56:50.000So I think we should start a, I think that should be the name of our corporation of Americans, Inc., and that we should apply for, you know, privatized contracts like everybody else is doing.
00:57:06.000being, you know, there's a friend of mine that's starting a business, more of an avenue rather, for people to fund politicians the way corporations have been funding politicians.
00:57:17.000And to encourage politicians that are responsible and ethical.
00:57:20.000And that you could profit from that just as much as you could profit from having worked for some evil corporation.
00:57:27.000And that if you got like sort of almost like a Kickstarter type thing to represent like a really strong ethical politician.
00:57:34.000But anytime you put money into it, it's going to be wrong and suck ass.
00:57:38.000But if it's all transparent, the idea being if they're not representing a corporation that's going to profit, instead they're representing people that want morality and ethics.
00:57:56.000But I don't think it would be their system anymore.
00:57:57.000It would be our system if it was done correctly.
00:57:59.000What I'm saying is that our system would be different than the system right now because there wouldn't be a need for profit.
00:58:05.000So the need for profit exists now where you get the politicians, take the money from the corporations, the corporations give them money because they want profit.
00:58:13.000This would be people giving them money because they want ethics and morality and a healthy society.
00:58:18.000So I think so much money comes from taxpayers as it is to have that be an option instead, to have people donate, people that really care about it donate a certain amount.
00:58:28.000If everybody donates a little, it would be a staggering amount of money out of 300 million people.
00:58:42.000You know, there is the public commonwealth, and, you know, for people who do pay taxes, and they should get something back for the taxes they pay.
00:59:20.000In almost every community where kids can go, where they're protected, where they can learn things, where they can learn sports and skills and games and places where we can educate inside of communities.
00:59:33.000I think that we should be just like a gas station.
00:59:35.000It should be a normal part of every sort of community.
00:59:39.000Any sort of city or town, and it should be funded.
00:59:42.000It should be funded by the government because it's there to improve kids and it's there to improve people.
01:00:10.000College, I mean, we can't encourage laziness, but we can certainly support people that want to learn and make it so that it's less of a thing.
01:00:18.000I mean, one of the reasons why doctors get so goddamn greedy is because they got a fucking huge bill behind them from medical school.
01:00:25.000So many people go into, by the time they're into office, They have these giant fucking bills behind them.
01:00:29.000Well, all these kids that are getting out now, they're in a big old financial hole.
01:00:33.000You know, they're in a hole, and what it means is, I mean, this is just part of the scam, and all that was, like, because their parents signed, you know, their houses away for the education, then they come and take the house.
01:00:49.000Well, it's even more the shell game when it's obvious that when you find out that the banks actually banked on people faulting on their loans.
01:02:01.000That's a real baller, though, if he's got four mistresses.
01:02:04.000Well, yeah, but until you see him, like my boyfriend always says, whenever we see a, you know, when we're here in California, we always see a rich old fucker and his, you know, stripper wife and Johnny always says, that is proof that our currency is sound.
01:03:39.000But it's what we do as far as the pollution of the environment, as far as global warming.
01:03:44.000Smart people would not do that because they would factor in the true cost, not the one in the books that you cook.
01:03:52.000Oh, I'm 100% in agreement with you, but I think that the consequences of their actions are just something they're like, ah, I'll deal with that eventually.
01:03:58.000I don't think they're like engineering this idea of infinite growth.
01:04:02.000Yeah, then they hit the wall, and they fuck over like all the old people and everything.
01:05:20.000I think what people are doing is just doing what people have always done.
01:05:23.000Acting without that much concern for the consequences because they don't have to deal with the consequences right now.
01:05:28.000It's like when you get up in the morning and you look at there's a cake from last night that looks oh so delicious and it's right next to all your fresh vegetables that you were thinking about making a hemp protein shake with.
01:05:40.000I eat a lot of time to go for that cake.
01:07:41.000You can take the battery out, so you can shut it off.
01:07:44.000Not saying that the government is really listening to you, but the idea that that's possible that anybody could just turn your microphone on at any time, or turn your camera on at any time, to me sounds ridiculous.
01:07:53.000But we know that the NSA has that capability.
01:07:55.000If you have an Android phone, you just take the battery out.
01:09:03.000But, you know, we have enough fact and data now that we can make informed decisions.
01:09:07.000We have enough stuff to make informed intelligent decisions that work for everyone, not just the few at the expense of the many, but for everyone.
01:09:24.000I feel like, hey, you know, yeah, we're on our way out and everything's fucked up and dying and over.
01:09:29.000But I think it's our karma to fucking do it right this time.
01:09:33.000Because, you know, helping each other and such, you know, trying to take a step back from needing so much and being more into sharing and new thoughts, new solutions, solution-based thinking and stuff.
01:09:48.000I think this is a great time for that and we're really evolving into that.
01:09:52.000And people can't back away from it anymore.
01:10:03.000But I think that when people get that in their head, it's going to make them really mutate quickly and go, oh my God, I better get right with my maker and actually start fucking doing some of the shit that I know is, you know, the right thing to do just because I'm a human being.
01:11:09.000I'm just trying to say, like, just because somebody, you know, they're trying to, the real thing is that they want the monopoly of definition.
01:11:51.000It doesn't directly apply data and fact.
01:11:57.000What's also, I think there's a lot of these people that are involved in both sides, whether it's the conservative movement for sure, or the really progressive movement, that are really just assholes that want to get heard.
01:13:05.000How they get people to stop thinking that they deserve an answer and a solution for the tax monies they pay.
01:13:13.000That is what the Tea Party was originally about before it got waylaid by punk-ass hoes.
01:13:21.000Well, isn't that what always happens, though?
01:13:23.000I mean, Occupy Wall Street, they said at one point in time they think that one out of three people in Occupy Wall Street was really like FBI. They're really like some undercover agents.
01:14:43.000And, you know, they're begging for money.
01:14:46.000And the Republicans, like, they beg for money too, but they demand it like they have the right to it because it's sovereignty that they're defending.
01:17:13.000Well, with this guy that I was talking to, I don't think it was that.
01:17:15.000I think he was just following the ideology.
01:17:18.000You're always supposed to support a woman's right to choose, and you're always supposed to marginalize anything that would point to the idea of abortion being a bad thing.
01:17:27.000And I'm saying they're not mutually exclusive.
01:17:30.000I think a woman should be able to do whatever she wants to do with her body.
01:18:52.000For people like me, we think different than other people, but we can see that there's a simple and much cheaper solution to all of these problems if logic, data, and fact are applied.
01:19:06.000I think they are being applied now more than ever before.
01:19:10.000And also, I think this idea of teams, of Republican left-wing, Democrat, or Democrat left-wing, Republican right-wing, that's looking more and more silly every day, especially when you look at Obama.
01:19:22.000There's so many people that fucking support Obama and don't say a goddamn thing about the shit that he's done in comparison to the shit they were on Bush about.
01:19:31.000And all these liberals have proven to be massive cowards by not coming out against him the way they came out against Bush on a million different things, debatable as they may be.
01:19:41.000You have to look at what happens to you when you do that.
01:19:50.000You ruin fucking people's lives because their opinion isn't in line with your sanctioned opinion that you were paid to get out there and lobby.
01:19:59.000You know, I mean, seriously, people's lives are ruined if they stand up against power.
01:20:11.000Isn't that fascinating that he, in his, the campaign website, there was a whole thing about giving whistleblowers relief and helping them expose injustices.
01:20:23.000And then they yanked all that shit out.
01:20:47.000The people are just stuck in the system.
01:20:50.000I think if the system were changed, and it would have to be changed by the people and the people's government, the people's application of their will that would result in accurate government, you know, for the people, I think,
01:22:11.000I completely agree with you that the system is fucked.
01:22:13.000And I think that patching it up is like taking a Windows 95 computer and trying to make it work in today's internet and fucking adding a bunch of shit to it and tweaking.
01:22:58.000But Iceland, yeah, because they dumped the Fed and then they started arresting bankers and doing something different and they got richer for doing it because they're not imposing a system of debt on people.
01:23:12.000And, you know, I mean, you know, I just have hope that that would happen here, because we could nationalize the Federal Reserve and solve all our problems, let's save the dollar.
01:23:23.000But, I mean, nobody will friggin' do it.
01:24:15.000People are doing shit like grandmothers all over this world.
01:24:18.000They're fixing their community with a rubber band and a paper clip.
01:24:21.000It's not that fucking hard to have everything work well.
01:24:25.000The default position of the universe is to the positive.
01:24:28.000Everything fucking already knows what to do, except for, you know, criminals at the top, a small group of criminals at the top.
01:24:36.000I think you're 100% right and I think that I liken our society to that of like an alcoholic's personality.
01:24:41.000Like someone who's trapped in a terrible pattern and keeps repeating the same problems over and over again and drinking and driving and you know just fucking killing their body.
01:24:49.000I think that that probably is how our society is.
01:24:53.000That we've got addicted to the idea of extracting money out of this broken system To the point where people are so addicted to money and so addicted to the benefits of having it that they're not willing to say, hey, you know, I'm a part of something that's ultimately destructive, even to me and to my children.
01:26:05.000That's hard when you can't fucking stomach it no more.
01:26:08.000But then you can go, oh, I'm going to not do that no more.
01:26:12.000With you, was it hard going from not having money to being one of the richest women in the history of Hollywood over a period of how many years?
01:26:56.000And you were one of the old-school comedy store gangsters, too.
01:26:59.000You came up in the era where things were probably one of the most powerful eras in the history of stand-up comedy.
01:27:06.000If you go back and look at, like, the origins from Lenny Bruce to Carlin to what have you, your era of the comedy store is one of the most powerful eras ever.
01:27:16.000Yeah, it is, but there was one that preceded me.
01:27:18.000That was the one where, you know, they had The Strike and all the comics.
01:27:23.000I mean, there was, like, David Steinberg and, you know, those guys.
01:27:29.000They're, like, in their 70s or late 70s now.
01:27:40.000Elaine Boosler, just a little bit before me, they were the ones that created and broke down, you know, so they did great work.
01:27:49.000Yeah, for folks who don't know, the way LA works is for the longest time, nobody got paid.
01:27:55.000You would go up and you would do spots and the clubs would be packed every night and the comedians would be starving to death, especially the local ones that are just sort of starting out, but they would be providing all this entertainment but not sharing in any of the profit.
01:28:08.000The comedy clubs weren't willing to budge.
01:28:11.000They were like, look, this is the way it is.
01:28:13.000There was a book that was written on it, right?
01:28:26.000It's kind of weird that they would think that it would be okay to have people perform, and you profit off them performing, but you keep all the money.
01:28:51.000You know, when you see the owner who's another comic, and he's buying his second house and, you know, adding on to the club, you're like, and he's still doing time on Monday.
01:29:27.000Well, that's profit sharing again and commonwealth and all that same stuff.
01:29:30.000And any club owner that would do that is a piece of shit.
01:29:32.000Any club owner that wouldn't want to compensate the comedians that are performing and actually think that you're going to get them to work for free while you have your place packed every fucking night, that's disgusting.
01:30:03.000One of the beautiful things about small clubs that I've always loved, if I do Zany's in Nashville or something like that, the club owners, if you go to these places, they actually like the art form.
01:30:27.000Well, you know, there's a lot of great comics out there getting old now and, you know, they don't have any money and there's a, you know, a bunch of shit like that.
01:30:34.000They gave their whole lives for comedy and they didn't get rich like I did, you know, and a few of us.
01:30:40.000But they're just as, you know, they're great writers, great comics.
01:30:44.000But, you know, you get broke down by that system like all artists and creative people do.
01:30:49.000Well, I think with a lot of these guys, too, though, they're also very woe is me.
01:30:53.000There's quite a few of those guys that never figured out social media, they never figured out how to promote themselves, they stopped writing new material, and then they feel like, I've been doing stand-up for 30 years and I can't sell at a club.
01:34:32.000My Uncle Sherman was sitting there eating my grandma's soup, and he always called her a greenhorn and stuff because she was an immigrant, you know?
01:34:40.000So he's like, you know, in America, they don't put an inch of chicken fat on top of their soup.
01:35:53.000And I knew it was fucking double, too, because it was like I was penetrating the shield of bullshit, but we don't tell him he fucking is a big, fat pig.
01:36:03.000That's where all the best comedy lies.
01:36:05.000A missile, a hellfire missile that penetrates the shield of bullshit.
01:36:09.000But the bad thing is when you are like that, like me and my dad, giving it back, then you have kids and they give it to you and god damn it, it's awful.
01:39:33.000Which, I mean, you wanted to be a comic because you didn't want to be the fucking government.
01:39:37.000You thought that was the opposite side.
01:39:39.000When you've got these people that are getting arrested because they went to a meeting and talked to people about socialism.
01:39:43.000So they're getting arrested and they're getting blacklisted from Hollywood.
01:39:46.000They're getting their fucking jobs taken away from them for going to meetings and talking to people about ideas that they might not even agree with anymore.
01:39:53.000Well, especially about unions or anything.
01:40:37.000But, you know, assholes are in every group.
01:40:39.000What you were talking about, tribalism, here's another thing I want to say.
01:40:43.000When they pervert tribalism, and here's what they do too, they make you defend everybody who's like you, but that's not good because you're keeping the predator right there.
01:40:55.000Because the predator is the one every group should be against.
01:40:58.000It's time to rid every community, every type, every street of predators who like aid people, taking people's money, taking public money and putting it in private pockets.
01:41:12.000Saying that all people of this nationality, those are my people, or all people of this gender, those are my people, or all people that are transgender are my people.
01:41:27.000I could not agree more, and that has always been my problem with the idea of feminism.
01:41:31.000I'm 100% for equality, and I think that we should look down on men who are abusing women the same way we look down on women who are abusing men, the same way we look at men abusing men.
01:43:17.000But they're also beautiful and brilliant.
01:43:20.000The reason why we're having this conversation at all is because someone figured out a way to put all this electronic shit into this tube that's only like six inches long and then it's attached to this wire that's attached to a fucking computer that blasts through to the internet.
01:45:03.000And there's good people in our government, and they're like, right now, they're proving that because they had solutions that made common sense to people, they're being promoted and getting closer to, you know,
01:45:22.000Well, I think that this is what I was saying when I think that the internet and the transparency of information that we have today is going to sort of reinforce those ideas.
01:45:32.000If you're going to represent people, you have to represent them in a way that benefits the people.
01:47:47.000It's also so enticing to believe that Tower 7 was the place where they were holding all this information and they detonated it in front of everybody's eyes on television.
01:47:57.000Like, holy shit, they got away with it.
01:47:59.000Because if you were inclined to lean towards that, that would be one of the possibilities.
01:48:56.000You know how when they go like this on the side and they take it down?
01:49:01.000Yeah, like the set on the screen, or a stage rather, for a play.
01:49:06.000Except for the people who survived it on the streets, the horror of that.
01:49:11.000That's really what it was about, I thought.
01:49:14.000But also, the thing I knew it was the fucking end of the world when I seen it, because it was like...
01:49:18.000I couldn't believe it because all these guys in suits, they were lined up on the sides of the roads and they were applauding for the firemen and the workers who do the actual work and they were like handing them water and I went,
01:50:12.000But it was for the right stuff at first.
01:50:14.000It was like they were bringing water and they were bringing supplies and it was like, we're going to fucking...
01:50:20.000It was really amazing because it's like, we're going to win out of goodness.
01:50:27.000And that's how it felt then, and it was like, you know, the people were like, they were so good, and they were so caring, and they were coming together against a common, you know, foe.
01:50:40.000Yeah, and the love of the first responders, too, that was a big thing.
01:50:44.000I was in New York in 2002, and I couldn't believe how nice people were being the cops and firemen, like yelling out to them, waving to them, honking their horns.
01:51:21.000They were actually making eye contact with other people and smiling.
01:51:25.000And then a few years later, after the bush, the whole thing, there they were back to just the looking straight down thing and avoiding eye contact.
01:51:34.000But it was like, wow, that was a mind meld going on.
01:51:37.000It was like a positive love mind meld thing.
01:51:42.000Yeah, it only lasted for a little while, right?
01:52:35.000We've done it from the beginning of time.
01:52:37.000Every nation that's been in power has always tried to steal the natural resources of other nations.
01:52:42.000I've always tried to influence the governments of other nations, and there's a blowback from that shit.
01:52:47.000You know, the people think that they, you know, that was the most embarrassing and enraging thing about what the Bush administration, the way they would flavor it.
01:53:31.000And that this idea that somehow or another people wouldn't like that people are having a good time somewhere, so they're willing to kill themselves by flying fucking planes into buildings.
01:53:55.000You know, there was a lot of that where people were like, well, you know, this...
01:53:58.000This can't happen here or anywhere else.
01:54:02.000So, you know, they got to go win over there so they don't come here thing.
01:54:06.000But it's that weird feeling that people have years later after the fact that not only have we not capitalized on the situation and used it as the potential to sort of rectify some of the problems that we have, but instead we ruined the way the rest of the world looks at America.
01:54:23.000We destroyed all the goodwill All the praise and happiness that people had for America responding to this horrible tragedy.
01:54:30.000All the love that people had sent to America from all across the world.
01:54:33.000Within five, six years, America had become the great Satan again.
01:54:57.000We're gonna do what we did after 9-1-1.
01:54:59.000We're going to, like, do the right thing and the good thing for each other.
01:55:04.000We're not gonna do what you fucking...
01:55:07.000We're not going to be tools in your useless, obsolete wars where you make the stock markets go up because poverty increased amongst workers in the world.
01:55:27.000But I also agree, and my daughter says, oh, mother, just because you're getting old enough to die doesn't mean that the entire world has to die with you.
01:55:35.000That's what baby boomers think, because you guys are so fucking narcissistic.
01:55:39.000Not all of you have ridden the world and blah, blah, blah.
01:55:53.000What I was going to say is that when we look back in history and we look at the Iraq war and they find out that a guy who's the CEO of Halliburton somehow or another got to be the vice president of the United States who went into a war under dubious Pretenses that there's some weapons of mass destruction in some asshole's shitty fucking country in the middle of nowhere.
01:56:16.000When they look at the profits that were distributed to Halliburton and all these different companies that profited from the rebuilding, it's going to be so fucking transparent when they stop and they step back and they look at it.
01:56:27.000And then I think the other thing is going to be this Edward Snowden thing.
01:56:30.000Well, did you know that they just made it possible for the survivors of the 911 victims to sue Saudi Arabia?
01:56:54.000Well, people say, other people say that it was just a regular move of empire, you know, the whole banking empire that runs through the whole thing.
01:57:47.000I think that the idea that the bankers organized it and set it up in order to rob people or that the government set it up in order to use it as a pretense to invade Iraq.
01:57:57.000I think it's much more likely that they capitalized on a situation and looked for an opening that they had been looking for in the first place.
01:58:03.000Seems like they were practicing it for a while.
01:59:05.000There was a guy recently who was indicted for murder because he opened up his gas line and then set a timer for a spark to go off, but he had no idea how much of an explosion it would create, and he blew up the neighbor's house, too, and killed a couple people.
01:59:21.000I mean, it's just some crazy asshole that wanted some money and wanted to become a murderer.
01:59:26.000If they don't lie, here's how they fix the world.
01:59:46.000And everything in this country is like run by insurance, hack insurance salesmen, basically a bunch of guys that used to be in prison.
01:59:55.000And then, you know, they couldn't get a real fucking job, so they started in insurance sales.
02:00:00.000So a guy like Larry Silverstein, who would have, in the conspiracy model, paid to have those buildings destroyed, he would have no incentive to do that because he couldn't be able to get money from it.
02:00:10.000So it would stop things like that from happening.
02:00:23.000They all make as much sense as the other thing.
02:00:26.000No, I don't think they make as much sense.
02:00:29.000I think that there's a lot of chaos in horrible tragedies, and a lot of people look for order in that chaos, and one of the things they look for is conspiracy.
02:02:37.000There's a lot of people that were witness to that that wound up murdered, wound up dying in very strange ways, more than 100 over 10 years.
02:02:47.000And they said that the odds of those people all dying like that were some fucking astronomical number.
02:04:14.000They were screaming, running in the streets, and they thought we really had been invaded.
02:04:17.000They say they're going to do another one like that, a fake alien invasion movie, and project it onto the stuff that is in the chemtrails, and that people are going to see a false and artificial reality right before their eyes.
02:05:41.000You're either going to kill them, which costs money because you're going to have to get rid of the bodies and shoot them and all that shit, and then they're not going to contribute any money to the tax dollars anymore.
02:06:18.000They're going after people that are in poverty.
02:06:20.000That's why, because those people oftentimes aren't contributing to the system as far as tax money anyway.
02:06:25.000They might buy like sales tax and things along those lines, but they're probably not making enough money declared to pay a significant amount of income tax.
02:06:31.000Well, you mean there's nothing left to be robbed.
02:06:58.000I mean, it could be changed by some people who have some fucking brains in their head that go, geez, I don't want to have to live on top of a mountain behind 18 sets of gates.
02:08:18.000Stupid backward lemming motherfucking idiots that are in control of everything.
02:08:25.000But aren't they just a part of this fucked up system that we're talking about?
02:08:28.000If you come along, say if you're going to work for some guy who's a fucking crazy control freak and you're working in his office and they have specific rules, the company rules that you have over the coffee machine and the way he wants you to dress, the way he wants you to talk.
02:08:43.000If you're trying to advance inside that system, you behave the way that system itself.
02:08:46.000But we've got to get rid of all corporations.
02:09:25.000And these fucking, you know, servants that they put on the Supreme Court to make a corporation a human, I think we should take advantage of that and do just the opposite and get all the American people together not to...
02:09:39.000To never vote, never cast another fucking vote, and incorporate.
02:09:43.000And then we'll bill the fucking government for the money they fucking stole from us in the first goddamn place.
02:09:57.000You know, one of the things that I thought was fascinating that you were talking about, one of the reasons why you love Hawaii is because they still have a goddess.
02:10:07.000I think it's a fascinating thing in our culture that somewhere along the line, being a woman or respecting the idea of a goddess is completely eliminated from the whole structure of the culture.
02:10:23.000There's women, there's mothers, there's wives, but this strong feminine power structure or power position of the goddess doesn't really exist.
02:10:48.000Because they've got to get women to continue to bear kids for them to send off to wars and molest.
02:10:57.000Well, and thinking the things that, like the standard of feminine or the philosophy of feminine, just the natural instinct and inclination is to take care of things, nurturing things, be loving to things,
02:12:44.000When the mothers start implementing a smarter system, that changes things right away.
02:12:50.000And there's all kinds of evidence out there that you can read about.
02:12:52.000Like right now in Africa, a whole bunch of new systems, you know, and women are the ones who are like thinking them up.
02:12:59.000Because like I said, a lot of these women, myself included in the old days, you had to fix a whole lot of shit with just using a rubber band and a paper clip.
02:13:10.000You had to, like, organize a fucking shitload of people around you to do what needed to be done for the group.
02:13:53.000We've had him on the podcast several times, and he's a really, really brilliant guy.
02:13:57.000And one of the things that he talked about was that in hunter-gatherer cultures, the relationship between the man and the woman was much, much, much more equal because the women did a huge amount of the work.
02:14:08.000A huge amount of the reason why everybody was surviving and taking care of their children and feeding themselves was because of the gathering part.
02:14:53.000I don't doubt that it could be switched at any point if you're training people.
02:14:57.000But after you've been doing something for a couple thousand years, it kind of comes into your DNA and it gets like it's your default because you've been well-bred or programmed for that, you know.
02:15:10.000I think we're much smarter than what we're allowed to be.
02:15:13.000And I think that, you know, if we had ultimate freedom and small groups of communities of self-rule, where it was the goal of each community to be sustainable and have justice and trade with your neighbor, I think we'd be a lot better because that is who we are before we all got fucked up with this shit.
02:15:34.000And I think that one of the things that these things represent when you start talking about like an ancient culture that, you know, favored women more or a culture over here that favors men more or, you know, you get weirdness like Papua New Guinea, where they sexually molest young boys from the time they're young, they take them away from their parents and they They make them ingest men's semen.
02:15:56.000Well, that represents this crazy range that we have of behavior patterns that people tend to follow.
02:16:02.000And I think that discussion and communication and things like these conversations are what lead people to start analyzing the behavior structure and the conversation makes people look at the way things are and compare them to Whether it's past civilizations or civilizations like Iceland or whatever it is.
02:16:19.000And they start thinking about reorganizing and re-engineering the system.
02:16:58.000And I have hope in my fellow humans, not in any fairytale way.
02:17:06.000You know, there's a movement now and it's starting in Italy and it's going to go everywhere.
02:17:12.000It's called the Five Star Movement and it has, you know, new systems of law, the International Tribunal of Common Law.
02:17:22.000And I'm saying it wrong, but it's like commonwealth, common law.
02:17:27.000And it's like taking the idea of sovereignty on behalf of the regular people of this planet, the citizens of this planet, and judging the people who have caused and imposed misery for no reason but profit.
02:17:46.000And, you know, the people, they do have that power, and it is coming, and it is because of the internet, and it is because of shows like this, because we can talk this way.
02:17:54.000You know, I have faith in my, in your generation, younger people.
02:17:59.000My kids are your age a little bit younger, probably just your age.
02:18:03.000But, you know, y'all are getting smarter, and you will.
02:18:09.000You know, you're going to solve a lot of stuff because you're smart and you have the technology and the tools at your disposal to do so.
02:18:17.000I think it's really the people far younger than me that are the hope.
02:18:19.000I think it's the people that are listening to people like us having these conversations.
02:18:22.000These are the first exposures they've had to these ideas and they'll shape them and change them while they're still young.
02:18:28.000I think the rigid people that get into their 30s with mortgages and 40s and what have you, Those are the really hard ones to fucking change.
02:18:36.000But you get a hold of some 18-year-old kid who's just out of high school and knows his parents are retarded.
02:18:39.000And he goes to college and he listens to a podcast where Roseanne breaks down what's wrong.
02:18:44.000That plants a seed in his head or her head.
02:18:47.000And then from there, they go on and they improve the structure from where they can access it at the beginning.
02:18:56.000It can be, you know, even one small change could change the whole thing.
02:19:00.000Not being saddled down with, you know, mortgages and kids and all this different stuff that makes it really, really hard to change, but be free from the jump and then engineer your life and in turn affect the lives of all the people around you.
02:19:13.000Well, I think that's true, but here's what I think is really scary, awesome, cool.
02:19:33.000But they're able to, like, conceive of the idea of actual solutions to actual problems instead of how am I going to make money off this problem, which is, like, my generation and disappearing.
02:19:44.000But kids as young as nine years old are implementing incredible systems on the Internet that actually, like, you know...
02:20:30.000Oh, this was like a thing that really fucked my mind.
02:20:32.000I was at this party and there was all these people, you know, from all over the place.
02:20:40.000There was this guy there and he had done all the satellite work for Ted Turner at the time, you know, when they started cable, news and everything.
02:20:47.000And he was telling me what his opinion of the impact of technology and freedom of information for people to be able to...
02:20:56.000And here's what he said, because I think of it every day.
02:20:59.000He said, for the first time in history, human history, information reaches the people without any state, without any church stopping it.
02:21:09.000He said, this is going to give birth to something that people who look at the Renaissance as like a great time.
02:21:18.000It's going to be a million times of it.
02:21:21.000He said, this is going to be the time of great freedom.
02:21:23.000And he said, and the greatest thing about it is that the ills of the world will begin to disappear because people will be smart enough and won't want to walk over dead bodies anymore because they'll realize that what they do is who they are.
02:21:38.000And he went into this whole thing, and I think of it every day, and I look for evidence that it's true, and I find it everywhere all over the Internet.
02:21:48.000Smart people, they know the right thing to do.
02:21:51.000They know that this is the time where, you know, us just deciding that we're going to do the right thing for the right reason at the right time, it's never been done.
02:21:59.000And now it's possible, and this is the first time, that it's really been possible for people to, like, really get together and...
02:22:09.000Demand and bring change and a whole new world.
02:22:16.000And we can do it all with everything that already exists.
02:22:19.000We don't have to have any wars and we don't have to reinvent the wheel either.
02:23:31.000Advance culturally, advance biologically, advance in our understanding of each other, and advance even further in our ability to spread information.
02:23:41.000So the evil almost motivates that work.
02:23:44.000It almost motivates that positive work to get things done.
02:23:48.000Yeah, because the evil thing, after it's done killing everything good, like the cancer cell, and this is genetics, it doesn't stop killing until the host is dead.
02:24:00.000And then it becomes the host and it eats itself.
02:24:07.000Well, and even on a different way of looking at it, what we were talking about earlier about New York, about people experiencing that horrible evil of this attack and thousands of people dead, and then millions of people being friendly to each other.
02:24:21.000To me, that was like, this is the Messiah moment.
02:24:25.000First of all, that Wall Street appreciated the work that people who do the actual work that makes things go.
02:24:32.000Like when they go to the wall and flip that switch, the people that make the electricity come, you know, the people that raise their kids and put the food on their tables and grow it, those people that do the actual work, they were being very appreciative and I thought this is a mind-blowing fucking revolutionary moment in the United States history where bullshit is not walking and bullshit is not talking but reality and like reality is being honored and And people were so fucking happy,
02:25:27.000When you consider how much war the United States has been involved in and how little of it has been on United States soil outside of Pearl Harbor, which is barely on United States soil.
02:25:36.000It's like it's in the middle of the ocean.
02:26:38.000I mean, there's a bunch of people who felt it, and what's really sickening to me is that those people who sent their kids over there to fight for an idea that they agreed with and that everybody agrees with, that's what they were sold and that's what they did,
02:26:56.000and then they come home to find that their parents, that class of people who've lost their homes, I mean, when people put that one together, I always hope, you know, of course I want the American people,
02:27:14.000And if they had given us health care, they wouldn't have had any war in Iraq.
02:27:17.000I want somebody to put that together too.
02:27:20.000That was all bankster bullshit to avoid paying for, you know, Medicare for all, because they needed to get away from what they call a socialist model.
02:27:30.000So they started breaking it down, and it was all around healthcare.
02:27:33.000And it would have been a whole fuck of a lot cheaper to just give people healthcare, but it paid off those private contractors who go over to other countries.
02:27:44.000And not only do they blow everything up, But then they rebuild it.
02:27:48.000Then they blow it up again, and then they rebuild it.
02:27:51.000They're getting paid four times of doing that because it's just a fucking scam.
02:27:55.000When you say it's about health care, meaning that they shifted where the money would go, that it would have to go to war so there wouldn't be money for health care?
02:28:29.000They use a lot of racism and they use absolute classism to divide people against each other and do their fundraising shit.
02:28:37.000And all the laws that they changed since Reagan were deregulation laws.
02:28:41.000And it was so that they deregulated the insurance company so like bosses can take peasant insurance out on their employees so if they die they get a kickback.
02:28:53.000You know, they took public money and put it in private pockets and they did it all through their lobbyists who sit in Congress and have nothing to do with serving the needs of the people who sent them there.
02:29:52.000She goes, I'm 82 years old, and I'm a...
02:29:57.000I'm a GMO farmer, and I'm 82, and if I didn't have my GMO crops, I wouldn't be able to send my children to college, and they get up there, their testimony.
02:32:28.000But I mean somebody's got to put this complete system of obsolete bullshit into They've got to start laughing at discord and fucking replace it with something that fucking makes sense.
02:32:39.000I just don't know how it's going to happen.
02:32:41.000I wonder what's going to be the trigger.
02:32:44.000I hope it's not something catastrophic, some sort of big event that has to take place in order for them to rebuild the whole thing and try to do it in some sort of ethical and moral way.
02:34:28.000I mean, I think he's a smart lobbyist and I don't think he has any chance but to do what he does because he's in that system, that system of banksters.
02:35:22.000I hope your optimism and people figuring it out is founded in...
02:35:28.000Well, I pray that they will because I want to use that word.
02:35:30.000Because as long as there's old, you know, crabby whatever I am, women like me, you know, that are able to come on anywhere and say...
02:35:42.000I'm praying that people will wake up and rejoin the human race.
02:35:45.000I think that's a pretty free society that you're living in.
02:35:50.000It's about as free as you can get in today's climate, but they're working very hard to restrict those freedoms, and that's what's scary about the NSA. Holding things over people, digging into your email, being able to have things that they can pull on you like you were saying before, that they're all a bunch of fucking people that have done shady shit and they know that they have secrets out there and they want to have your secrets as well.
02:36:11.000And they want to hold them over your head and keep you from trying to change the system.
02:36:14.000So when a person like you comes along that doesn't give a fuck, That's when the truth gets heard, when a person doesn't have anything to lose.
02:36:40.000I'm just going to say it to you because it's like, you have people, we have the power, right?
02:36:47.000We have the power, we have all the power that it takes to ensure that a better system is implemented with the least amount of cruelty possible.
02:38:57.000So your hero was responsible for something you didn't even know about.
02:39:00.000That was one of the big moments where people in the United States started going, what?
02:39:05.000The Kennedy assassination was the one for me.
02:39:07.000I was living in New York and my friend John...
02:39:11.000He had this buddy who was over the house who had this book that he was fucking waving around talking all this crazy shit about this book.
02:39:16.000It was called Best Evidence by this guy David Lifton.
02:39:19.000David Lifton was an accountant that started going over the Warren Commission reports and he was one of the only guys that was anal enough to go through all fucking who knows how many hundreds and hundreds of pages I think that's it.
02:40:51.000The first bullet hole in Kennedy's neck, they turned that into a trach wound.
02:40:55.000It's a different wound in the Bethesda, Maryland Hospital as it is in the Dallas Hospital.
02:40:59.000The way it was described in the Dallas Hospital was an entry wound.
02:41:02.000The way it was described in Bethesda, Maryland, by the time they got a hold of the body and flew it across the country, they turned it into tracheotomy.
02:41:09.000You don't do a tracheotomy in a guy who doesn't have a head.
02:41:45.000Not that those aren't real facts, but...
02:41:47.000Gerald Ford was the head of the Warren Commission that came out with a certain report and then became the unelected president of the United States.
02:42:03.000The Warren Commission was filled with criminals and crazy people, madmen, that were designed to disseminate propaganda and dress it up as the truth.
02:42:11.000Whoever killed Kennedy, whether it was Lee Harvey Oswald delivered the shot, or the idea that what we're getting is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but, that's the most hilarious thing ever.
02:42:39.000To me, that shows where there's a problem with conspiracy theory.
02:42:43.000That most of the time, it's incompetence.
02:42:45.000It's human incompetence more than anything else.
02:42:47.000And when you got a guy that's just making up sign language shit, standing three feet away from the president, who, oh, by the way, when you go back in his past, turns out that he was arrested for murder and might have been also responsible for rape.
02:42:59.000So there's like all these crazy accusations about this guy.
02:43:35.000I think it's incompetence, like I was saying.
02:43:37.000I think there's more incompetence in government than we would ever imagine.
02:43:41.000Because you can tell that the smart guy, the wizards, they're dumb.
02:43:47.000Well, they're smart in some ways, but I think in order to fuck people over, you have to be a liar.
02:43:52.000In order to be a liar, you've got to lie to yourself.
02:43:54.000I don't think there's any people that are dishonest that are honest with themselves.
02:43:57.000Because if they were honest with themselves, they would recognize the terrible feeling that comes along with leaving a legacy of sadness and destruction behind you.
02:44:07.000Leaving a legacy of people upset about your personal actions.
02:44:11.000That's not a way to be in harmony with life.
02:44:58.000When you became super wealthy, you went from being this person who struggled and were really fucking in poverty, and then all of a sudden, boom!
02:47:20.000I mean, I admire people who are handling it well, but once you get up to that certain level, I mean, you know, I'm just saying, a lot of people, they don't survive that level, and I would see that, you know.
02:47:32.000Like when you see a Miley Cyrus going crazy or a Justin Bieber going crazy and everybody has their own criticisms of them, you have a particular way of looking at it where you're like, God, you don't know what the fuck they're dealing with.
02:49:03.000I was like, yeah, these fucking people, they're just fucking, they're jumping on my car.
02:49:07.000I mean, you don't know what it's like when you're, like, panicked, because, you know, you're trying to leave a crowd, and you're in your car, and they're fucking jumping on your car, and they're being encouraged to jump on your car and shit.
02:49:18.000It's like, you know, and, you know, some farm boys, they knock my window, you know, I roll it down, and they're like, do you want us to beat the fuck out of them?