Apple pulls the Bitcoin app for iOS, Bitcoin, and much more! Recorded in Los Angeles, CA! Recorded on October 30th, 2019. Bitcoin is a digital asset that can be used to pay for pretty much anything you want in the world. It's not hard to get your hands on it, and it doesn't have to cost you a penny to get started. Bitcoin is not only a valuable asset, but it's also a valuable tool in the hands of millions of people around the world who have no idea what they're actually doing with it. If you don't know Bitcoin, then you're in for a real treat, because you're not getting much in the way of access to it, because it's not available in Apple's App Store, Google Play, or any other major retailer. You're not going to get much better than this. The more you know about Bitcoin, the more likely you are to get access to Bitcoin and other crypto-currencies like it. I'll tell you why you should be using Bitcoin to buy or not use Apple's app for your phone or tablet, and why it's better than it's alternatives. I'll also tell you what I think about Apple's decision to pull the App Store app for Bitcoin and why I don't think it's a good one at all. BTC is the future of the world, and Bitcoin is going to be king of it. Recorded in Tel Aviv, Israel, Israel! BTC, Bitcoin and much much more. - Joseph R. R. Rogan $5,000,000? BTC? $1.00, $10,000 or more? Bitcoin, $100, $20,000 better than Apple? - $50, $200,000 more than Bitcoin? I'm not sure what else? What does that mean? Can Bitcoin be the next $100? ? What do you think of Bitcoin? - $100 or $150,000 worth of BTC? What does it do to the world? Is there a better way to live in the 21st century? Let me know in the comments section! - Joe Rogan Experience Podcast - Will Bitcoin be king or not? Will Bitcoin become the next BTC? Recorded in San Francisco, California? July 15th, 2020? - Recorded in Las Vegas, CA? - August 15, 2019? - September 2020?
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00:02:19.000They're truly and completely contract-free.
00:02:22.000And they sell the best Android phones in the world.
00:02:25.000I switched to Android and I'm very happy with it.
00:02:27.000And I also, I'm even more happier because once we had Andreas Antonopoulos on the podcast the other day talking to us about Bitcoin, he was talking about how the Apple app for Bitcoin is not very good.
00:03:15.000I mean, every day I see in the news things about Bitcoin, different companies accepting Bitcoin, Vegas casinos accepting Bitcoin.
00:03:23.000And so for Apple to step in with no explanation, unless there's an explanation, like they don't like the software, it has vulnerability, they should have to tell you that.
00:03:32.000But if you just pull it and don't say a word, that smacks of censorship to me.
00:04:41.000It was at one point in time, almost all the smartphones Good percentage of when the iPhone and then slowly but surely the Android started to get better and better and now they're actually the majority.
00:04:51.000And there's so many people working on them too.
00:04:53.000The new ones are pretty fucking badass.
00:04:55.000So if you're like an iPhone person and you're worried, you don't have to.
00:05:08.000If you go and look at their website they have all the cool ones like the one I have which is the Galaxy Note 3. It's enormous, but I love it because it's just great for email and looking at pictures and shit.
00:05:19.000But another one that's smaller that's also very badass is the HTC One or the Galaxy S4. All the top-of-the-line phones, they sell them all at Ting.
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00:06:33.000You don't want people to know where you sleep.
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00:07:34.000Why FREAKS? They want to distinguish which one of these podcasts you were listening to when you found out about their awesome domain name service.
00:07:42.000So for this month, it's FREAKS. I find that all to be very confusing.
00:07:47.000And I'm not really into you switching around your fucking passwords, people.
00:08:25.000Well, what we wanted to do is just get a bunch of the healthiest stuff you could in freeze-dried powdered format.
00:08:31.000So we got a bunch of the actual greens, then we got some of the different colored vegetables like beets and some of the other things you might be missing from your diet.
00:09:10.000Well, one of the key things that we found is I was looking at antioxidant potential as well, and I'm fairly familiar with Peru and some of the things that come out of there, and there was a purple corn that comes out of Peru that they grow pretty much exclusively in that region, and it has a really,
00:09:29.000It's not the end-all be-all, but it's an antioxidant measurement.
00:09:31.000You know, how many free radicals get quenched by The natural compound.
00:09:36.000And that's a process that goes on normally in the body.
00:09:38.000And it's a really high amount of that, more so than even some of the other berries, like acai berry and all these other berries that get really highly touted.
00:09:47.000So we put a bunch of that in there and then just went from there and got a bunch of full-spectrum greens and put it all together, everything being food-based, just all the coolest, best foods that we could get.
00:09:58.000Which is the best way for your body to absorb it.
00:10:25.000Two of the grossest studies ever for saying that vitamins don't work.
00:10:29.000One of them was people over 65 that have had heart attacks That were fucking old and had heart attacks, and it didn't stop their progression of death or whatever.
00:11:59.000Why don't you run up a hill with me, you fuck?
00:12:00.000Why don't you tell me about optimum physical performance?
00:12:03.000You don't know unless you supplement, unless you have a healthy body.
00:12:08.000You don't know the difference between optimum and suboptimum.
00:12:11.000You just exist at this sub-optimum state and think, whoa, I have a cup of coffee, I have my eggs and bacon, and I go to work, and I've got no problem whatsoever with my health.
00:14:58.000The guy I'm using now is a good friend of mine as well.
00:15:02.000Find someone who can teach you the basic fundamentals, whether it's a gym that you have to hire a trainer and let them tape you with a cell phone so you can repeat your movements, or watch a video.
00:15:15.000If you don't have anybody anywhere near where you live that has kettlebells or understands how to use it, watch a video and start out light.
00:15:22.000Use like an 18-pound kettlebell or a 25-pound kettlebell.
00:21:55.000Because they've literally pumped up gigantic criminal organizations by keeping people from legitimately selling things that they want to sell.
00:23:52.000But then you take this back to drugs and let's say, it's not actually, most of these drugs are not anything like taking a hammer and hitting yourself in the head.
00:24:00.000It's actually, you know, as we've all seen and we'll talk about, I'm sure, on this one as we always do, myriad benefits from all of these different drugs.
00:24:08.000And not only that, So let's say it was like a hammer.
00:24:11.000Let's say it was punching yourself in the head with a hammer.
00:24:13.000Well, the punishment for doing that, to prevent you from doing that, is to throw you in a box with crazy criminals and completely dehumanize you where you may or may not get raped.
00:24:56.000And by the way, whoever sent me some information about that, apparently since we had that podcast with the people from Vanguard, did the OxyContin Express, that documentary, apparently Florida has tightened down their drug laws substantially because of that,
00:25:14.000because that documentary exposed How fucking insane that whole OxyContin Express is that goes from Florida to the northern states.
00:25:21.000It's just a pipeline of OxyContin and the massive amount of people that have prescriptions for it.
00:25:26.000But now it's apparently becoming a real issue for the people that are addicted because now they're fucked because they don't have anything to fill that addiction that was created by the pharmaceutical companies making sure that the drug prescription laws were very lax in Florida so they could profit.
00:25:57.000But you can't tell people what to do either.
00:25:59.000I'm not against regulation, but I'm against you telling people what to do, especially if you can't prove your point.
00:26:06.000And when you start talking about marijuana or psychedelics, when it's mushrooms or even LSD, the amount of danger that you are in when you take LSD and compare the amount of danger that you take when you eat salt.
00:26:22.000You know, you could eat, we found out, 10 ounces of salt will fucking kill you.
00:29:39.000Tonight on the news, your whole life, madness and trying to stay afloat in a river of fucking crazy people.
00:29:47.000Everywhere you go, bobbing fucking crazy maniacs.
00:29:51.000All over television, all over school, every fucking person you date, every person you stick your penis inside, or they let you stick their penis inside of you.
00:30:01.000Whatever it is, they're all fucking crazy.
00:30:12.000And you have this moment of clarity where you can reflect back on this crazy circus you've been in and really think about it and then maybe make some course corrections, make some changes, pop out of it.
00:31:17.000Alpha Brain has a really intense effect on dreams.
00:31:20.000It also seems to have a very intense effect on the visualizations that I get when I eat marijuana.
00:31:27.000I get a more intense series of things that I see.
00:31:33.000When you eat it, when you close your eyes, not when my eyes are open, there's no hallucinogenic effects, at least for me, but when I close my eyes, I see things in front of my eyelids, like dancing cartoons that are neon, and they're having sex and breeding and stuff.
00:32:28.000Cranks it up to 10. Just finds some new gear that you didn't know existed.
00:32:35.000I think seeing those things to me is a good sign that you're in that state of presence.
00:32:39.000You're in that state of the nether where you're just accessing the unconscious realms of the mind.
00:32:44.000And that's, for me, even when I meditate with nothing, that's what I'm kind of shooting for.
00:32:48.000If I can close my eyes and start drifting into other, just following the visions without trying to direct them or think, That's when I know my mind's shut off, and that's when I know I'm in a good place.
00:32:59.000And psychedelics tend to have that characteristic always with them as well, and I think it goes hand in hand.
00:33:04.000It's just that's what happens when the mind gets quiet, and you're just kind of floating around looking at these images as they appear.
00:33:12.000Yeah, there's a thing that you do when you're in a normal state of consciousness where you sort of...
00:33:18.000Almost controlling and defining your reality by your ability to see things clearly, you know where they are, you know distances, you've got everything locked down, you know where everything is, you see the people around, you see the objects, but when you're on a psychedelic and you're closing your eyes,
00:33:35.000Or even if you're in heavy meditation and you're closing your eyes, your imagination starts to kick in and you start to see and dream and feel things.
00:33:57.000The imaginary ideas that you get with your eyes closed, depending on what's causing them, whether it's meditation and yoga, whether you got punched in the face and you're seeing stars, whatever the fuck it is that's causing it, these visions are still real.
00:34:12.000You can say they're hallucinations, and you'd be correct medically.
00:34:19.000But, say if I gave you DMT, and I told you, what I'm going to give you is a natural psychedelic compound that your own brain produces.
00:34:27.000And all it really does when I give it to you is, it's going to fuck with your cerebral cortex, fuck with your visual interpretations of things, and you're going to see things all scrambled up.
00:34:36.000Like, as if your connectors are plugged in wrong on your television.
00:34:39.000You're just going to see a bunch of crazy shit.
00:34:43.000And you come back and you say, I saw God and he told me the nature of the universe is love and that the universe is actually made of love and understanding.
00:34:53.000The suffering only exists for us to be able to truly appreciate the love.
00:34:56.000And as human beings evolve, the suffering and the love will do battle.
00:35:02.000This is literally the good and evil of the Bible.
00:35:04.000And this is why this has been interpreted by every major religion.
00:35:08.000This is this internal struggle that we all know.
00:35:10.000This is the reason why it's so admirable when someone becomes a good person.
00:35:14.000Because we know how difficult it is to always choose the light.
00:35:21.000We gave you DMT and your brain fucked up.
00:35:24.000Now, if I gave you another pill and I said, this is a pill that was brought to us by angels and it came in this beautiful crystal box and it's directly from God himself and it's a door.
00:35:38.000It's a door to God's kingdom and you're going to get to talk to him and hang out with him for 15 minutes.
00:35:48.000So you take it, and you have the exact same experience that I described.
00:35:52.000The exact same experience as the experience where the guy told you, oh, your cerebral cortex is confused, and you're just seeing shit that's not there, and your imagination creates God.
00:36:26.000And if you benefit from that experience to the same extent as you would benefit from a real visit with angels, then it's just as good, dummy.
00:37:25.000So this was, I was like between 18 and 22. So in college.
00:37:28.000And I started my first one at 18. And I'm going to change the geographic location just a little bit because in case she's still rocking and rolling out there.
00:37:35.000Anyway, so go out to the Southwest crossover.
00:37:38.000She picks me up in a, you know, land cruiser or whatever.
00:37:41.000She's got a dog and a car and She is, you know, kind of that loose shaman, but more of like a psychiatric kind of medicine giver.
00:37:51.000You know, not trained in these ancient arts or ways, indigenous people.
00:37:55.000She just kind of knew about the medicine, had a great heart.
00:37:59.000And so she picks me up, and I'm pretty fucking terrified.
00:38:36.000You know, you go in a box, all these people are...
00:38:38.000Because I knew enough, and I went to high school in Texas, and they're always trying to get me to these Christian ministry things, and I'm asking them questions, and they're looking at me like, huh?
00:38:47.000You know, I was like, this is a bunch of fucking bullshit.
00:38:51.000So I decided, you know, as a connection through the old, you know, old family friends and I just decided to go off there, kind of like a rite of passage.
00:39:15.000So I'm up all night just nervous as shit because you feel like you're about to jump off a cliff.
00:39:20.000You have no idea what's going to go down.
00:39:22.000And I sometimes, you know, I get a lot of these people sending me messages and I forget what I was like that very first time because it's fucking terrifying.
00:39:29.000So I get up early in the morning and I go for a long walk.
00:39:32.000And I'm just trying to get my head around this.
00:39:34.000I'm so afraid that I'm going to completely lose touch with reality.
00:40:09.000So we go and we're about to start the ceremony.
00:40:11.000And my very first ceremony was going to be, and she was very open with what she was giving me, was going to be a combination of mushrooms and MDMA, pure MDMA. Whoa, she's candy flipping you right off the bat?
00:40:50.000And then the mushrooms started really kicking.
00:40:53.000And then the visionary experience started to happen.
00:40:55.000And I remember one of my first visions.
00:40:57.000I was walking through like a field of grass.
00:41:00.000And I was just feeling my hands move through the grass.
00:41:04.000Like I was pushing right through the grass.
00:41:07.000And then I could feel like my breathing didn't seem that necessary anymore.
00:41:11.000And I was almost becoming disconnected from my breath.
00:41:15.000And then I could feel the wind coming through and all of a sudden the wind just went right through me.
00:41:20.000And my physical body no longer existed in that moment.
00:41:24.000It was almost like, I am sure I still was breathing, but it felt like I absolutely was not and didn't need to and it didn't matter.
00:41:31.000And my spirit was completely disconnected from my body.
00:41:35.000And at that moment was probably one of the most defining moments of my life because I realized, holy shit, this little meat vehicle that I'm really attached to is not what I really am.
00:41:47.000It's just a car that I'm driving around in for now.
00:41:50.000And like this other thing that I'm experiencing and feeling separate from that body That's something different.
00:41:57.000And the clarity I had from that moment, from being able to separate from my body, was immense.
00:42:03.000And I realized at some point, when you're free of these bodily confines and the mind, you're going to be able to look back at your life and see everything that you've done, good or bad.
00:42:15.000And if it's good and you've lived well and you've pushed out as much love and done the best you can, you're going to be in a heavenly state at that point.
00:42:27.000You've spread the light, spread the love, and done what you were there to do, basically.
00:42:32.000But if you've lived badly and done harm to people and hurt people and increased the suffering of the world, at that point, the blinders are just ripped off your eyes, and you've got to stare dead in the face of all the demons and evil you've ever done.
00:42:52.000It's like one of those horror movies where they have you, you know, your eyes pinned open and you can't not look at something terrible in front of you, except you're looking back at your own life.
00:43:00.000And I realized that, you know, I had a lot of anger towards Christianity at that point.
00:43:33.000I was up and that was a really cool night for me.
00:43:36.000I was up, you know, all the stars there were far, far away from electricity and the old dog that was in the car was, you know, had really bad hips and they had a main, the main kind of house, little casa that was way warmer.
00:47:02.000And there was tears, and then ultimately, you know, ultimately a kind of forgiveness, you know, where in my vision, he was like, I'm so sorry.
00:49:16.000But there's a story that someone put today on the Underground about Tiago Silva's childhood.
00:49:22.000The underground being mixedmartialarts.com, which is one of my favorite, well, my number one favorite website when it comes to MMA. It's just an awesome forum, always has great up-to-date news, and I know the guys who run it, and they're very, very cool guys.
00:50:56.000But I wonder if I wouldn't have wanted to...
00:50:59.000Because I was on the borderline for doing some fighting and things like that.
00:51:03.000If I hadn't gotten that out and really felt like I could assert myself fully as a man then, in that rite of passage, maybe I would have sought it in the cage somehow.
00:51:13.000Maybe that would have had to fulfill that role for even me.
00:51:24.000But, you know, it's interesting and the effects that that can have in really doing the heavy work, doing the heavy lifting, that sitting there talking on a couch to somebody, you know, you aren't going to get there.
00:51:35.000You aren't going to see it happening and rewrite, reprogram the history in your brain.
00:51:41.000So when I look at that back now, it's not like, poor me.
00:51:45.000It's, I'm sorry, my dad had to You know, inflict that.
00:52:50.000Nobody was telling me what to do anymore.
00:52:52.000I didn't have this feeling like I was going to be this utter, complete failure because I couldn't get through school without falling asleep.
00:53:05.000Then it became a much more healthy appreciation for competition.
00:53:09.000Because when I was 16, I just wanted to fuck people up.
00:53:11.000And my parents actually didn't want me to do martial arts because they were terrified that I was going to become this angry kid who knew how to fuck people up.
00:53:20.000Whereas before, it was this angry kid who really couldn't do anything.
00:53:57.000I had a really funny story that happened there.
00:53:59.000So there was a kid, I was like seven, and there was a neighbor kid who was like 12, and he was big, you know, way bigger than me.
00:54:05.000And he would kind of pick on me a little bit just because he was bigger, but I had a bunch of older brothers, so they would always keep him in line or whatever.
00:54:11.000One day he did something fucked up to me.
00:54:13.000And again, that's 7 versus 12. So they're like, all right, we got a plan.
00:54:17.000And I had, you know, those foam nunchucks that you could get for like playing around.
00:54:20.000They had a hard center and foam on the outside.
00:55:21.000He was fucking people up with noon checks.
00:55:24.000Bruce Lee was the inventor of the retard wagon train.
00:55:26.000It's like one guy stands in the center, and they all take turns, which fucking never happens in the real world, by the way, folks.
00:55:33.000They come at you with a mass of bodies, all centrally located, and one person grabs you, and you maybe get to punch one or two as they drag you to the ground and break everything on your body, stomp you into a fucking applesauce pulp.
00:55:48.000There's a lot of myths that I think came up from those martial arts movies.
00:55:52.000I started watching a little bit of that UFC documentary, the 20 years thing.
00:56:11.000Yeah, 20 fucking years is a long-ass time.
00:56:13.000But meanwhile, in 20 years, the 20 years of the UFC has been around 21 now, the world of martial arts has evolved more than it has in thousands of years.
00:57:52.000That shin to the neck, man, it's one of my favorite all-time techniques.
00:57:56.000Maurice Smith, who's a good buddy of mine, he landed, that was like one of the first head kicks in MMA. He landed on Conan Silviera back in extreme fighting.
00:58:09.000I'm pretty sure he shinned him in the neck.
00:58:12.000But that chin to the neck technique, man, it's a crazy thing that happens.
00:58:27.000That is like, that is exactly how the technique is supposed to be thrown and exactly how it's supposed to land and exactly what happens when you get hit like that.
00:58:45.000Well, he's so aware also because he fights so often.
00:58:48.000I mean, he fought four times last year.
00:58:50.000And, you know, when you fight that much, you're much more present.
00:58:54.000That's the thing about fighting is the more often you get in fights, the more relaxed you'll get when you're actually fighting, the more you could fight up to your ability.
00:59:02.000That's why a big layoff, when people talk about ring rust, it's not just like when they talk about what is ring rust, what is octagon rust, whatever, what is it?
00:59:11.000What it is, is you gotta get comfortable with that crazy experience.
00:59:14.000You gotta have that experience really close to you.
00:59:16.000Like, one of my best fights ever was I won this US Open tournament.
00:59:22.000And I won it because I fought the week before.
00:59:25.000I fought a tournament the week before, and I injured my groin, and I thought I was done.
00:59:30.000I was like, I can't compete in this New Hampshire tournament because I'm just too fucked up.
01:02:07.000You have to be good enough and those other things, which is one of the things that's so beautiful about MMA or about Jiu Jitsu or any martial art, kickboxing, is it's so hard to get really good.
01:02:22.000It has to be a list of things have to be in order for you to win championships.
01:02:28.000If you, you know, if you get to be a UFC champion, you get to be a Chris Weidman, you get to be a Jon Jones, so many things have to be in order for you to get to be that good.
01:02:40.000Your mind, your body, life experiences, the will to win.
01:02:45.000The discipline to show up at the gym, the intelligence to not eat shitty food, all these fucking...
01:02:50.000Meanwhile, I told you about winning the US Open after you told us to drink coffee.
01:02:55.000I was 19 or 20. You get away with a lot when you're really young.
01:02:59.000But the list of things that have to be in perfect order for you to become great at anything...
01:03:06.000That's why it's so fun to pursue greatness or so enriching to pursue it.
01:03:12.000And even if it's just personal greatness, you know, you don't have to be the greatest in the world at anything, but if you personally improve at something, whether it's fucking playing tennis or anything, whether it's writing books...
01:05:55.000And that this doesn't have to apply to things like winning the Olympic gold, but just to be better at surfing or hunting, juggling, it doesn't matter.
01:06:15.000I got, first of all, Um, his positivity.
01:06:19.000He's, like, this really smiley, friendly guy who does, like, really nice things.
01:06:24.000Like, he auctioned off his bow and gave the money to some guy who was battling cancer and, you know, and made this really thankful video about it.
01:07:01.000And when you meet people like this Cameron Haynes guy or hundreds of other people that have had on this podcast, it sets a higher watermark.
01:07:12.000I made a post on my Facebook page that I said something like, It's encouraging that same thing, changing your friends, deciding who you want to hang out with and trying to hang out with these people that really inspire you.
01:07:26.000And so then there was this backlash of people saying, some people say, no, man, you're perfect just the way you are.
01:07:32.000You shouldn't try to be anything different.
01:07:35.000Well, I kind of get what you're saying, but in order to hang out with other people that inspire you, you can't just be like, I am what I am, bro.
01:07:44.000I'm not going to fucking try anything.
01:07:45.000You got to be in the same path, you know, to connect with them, to really be someone that they want to hang out with.
01:08:02.000But they're not calling you out for, you know, beers and a game of pool on Saturday.
01:08:06.000You know, they got other people that inspire them, that they want to be around and make them feel alive from that same kind of energy and connection.
01:08:14.000And, you know, I think it's important.
01:08:16.000Yes, you know, some parts of us are perfect as they are.
01:08:19.000But nonetheless, that pursuit of excellence is going to put you in the class with other people who are on the same pursuit.
01:09:21.000If you lived in prison and you were surrounded by liars and thieves and murderers, like you were in the worst prison ever, everyone was guilty, no one was set up, no one had a bad childhood, just cunts, just the prison, the cunt penitentiary, you know, your idea of what human beings are would drop.
01:09:38.000Well, it happens to cops all the time.
01:09:40.000You know, cops are dealing with the worst of humanity on a regular basis.
01:09:44.000So they sometimes suspect, and I say this because my stepdad was on the SWAT team and he was a cop.
01:09:50.000And so they see the worst in people so often that it taints, their glasses are a little ruddy black, you know?
01:09:58.000I mean, they're seeing the worst in everybody just because that's what they're conditioned to do.
01:10:02.000Yeah, they also have some of the best sense of humor.
01:10:04.000I have some friends that are cops that I know from martial arts or whatever, and they want to do this dark sense of humor, man, because they just see, you know, oh, we showed up, and this lady's head was in the middle of the road, and, you know, oh, Jesus Christ.
01:10:17.000What else do you do but you have to be able to blow off that energy and laugh and keep it light?
01:10:21.000Yeah, and then be really weird about it, because, you know, when you see something like a horrible car accident, and you see them every day over and over again, and then you get in your car...
01:10:33.000You know, I'm going to enter into this thing that also, you know, I saw what happens when everything goes wrong earlier today, but now I'm just going to go about my...
01:10:43.000I mean, most likely, you know, most days, they're going to see something fucked up, especially if you're in L.A. If you're a cop in L.A., Jesus Christ, what the fuck do those guys see every day?
01:10:55.000That's why I kind of, from the cops that I've interacted with, the more heavy shit that goes on in the neighborhood, usually the cooler the cop is when they pull you over for something stupid, you know?
01:11:05.000It's like the cop, if you get caught in a really neighborhood where not shit happens and you're going five miles over to the speed limit, they'll be a dick a lot of time.
01:11:12.000You know, if you're in a place where they're checking on murders and risking their life and whatever, like, oh, cool, you turn the dome light on and you're giving me your stuff.
01:12:07.000We're not designed to absorb animosity well.
01:12:11.000And, you know, that animosity that cops receive and...
01:12:14.000When every good person generally looks at you and says, oh, fuck the fucking cops, because you're always just buzz killing whatever they're doing, they're put in a terrible spot having to defend these weed laws and psychedelic laws and, you know...
01:12:26.000Even some of the alcohol laws, you know, for a 20-year-old who wants to fucking drink some beers in his house or whatever.
01:12:55.000But because they have to enforce these terrible laws that you know are bullshit and are just fucking up your day, you know, raising revenue or, you know, even worse, trying to bust you for exploring your own consciousness, you kind of fucking hate them and resent them.
01:13:09.000You know what we could do that would crush almost every police department all across the country?
01:13:15.000Everybody just drive the speed limit and obey all traffic laws.
01:13:20.000It would destroy them because they're so used to pulling in X amount of money per month that if we could go a few months, just a few months, of no traffic stops ever...
01:13:33.000People, literally, they would just start false flagging people.
01:13:58.000If all these Mexican drug cartels said, listen, man, you know, we did some ayahuasca, and we've got a different point of view, and, man, it's not cool to harm people.
01:14:58.000There's a documentary, The House I Live In, and they make a great...
01:15:02.000A great case for that, how all these private prison systems need to throw these people in prison at these overwhelmingly high levels compared to the rest of the world, is they're surviving like an organism.
01:15:13.000Like all these other cunty big corporations, they're like an organism that's going to survive at fucking any cost.
01:15:22.000You don't have to be that type of organism, but it requires some consciousness at the fucking brain of the organism to make sure that it's not.
01:15:31.000When you find out that these people that need these jobs lobby to make sure that these jobs are in place, and the way they do that is to make sure that things are illegal, so they can arrest people.
01:15:41.000Like, the policemen's, the guards, the prison guards' union...
01:15:46.000They make sure that they spend money to make sure that drugs stay illegal.
01:17:41.000You know, the urges to have sex inside you are masturbate or evil and you need to go to the church.
01:17:47.000Okay, you made something that fucking makes sure that everybody feels guilty and everybody needs a priest because everybody's going to want to touch their genitals.
01:17:55.000So you just figured something out, a way to fucking hack the system so that you get everybody in some form of psychic or mental slavery.
01:18:03.000And in the prison system, I've never heard that analogy, but you're fucking absolutely right.
01:18:07.000It's like you're enslaving them for your own profit.
01:18:11.000Yeah, they're actively making sure that people are in jail.
01:18:15.000They're making sure that there's laws in place that will ensure that more people will get arrested.
01:18:21.000You know, there's a movement, and the movement is, well, there's ethical considerations when it comes to private prisons and laws, and also laws where there's no victim.
01:19:06.000I can't help but draw the parallels to religion.
01:19:09.000So religion, you get tithed or whatever.
01:19:11.000You have to pay 10% or whatever the fuck amount.
01:19:14.000So you're paying for the church, always from the bottom.
01:19:16.000And then you look at the means that they went to make sure that everybody ascribed.
01:19:20.000Well, burning people at a stake who didn't believe, that's a pretty good way to ensure that you're going to get 10% of that person's money.
01:19:27.000And then making sure that they're guilty always, 24 fucking 7, because you've made the urge to have sex, which is like the urge to eat or take a dump.
01:19:45.000Whereas if the priests were cool and, you know, maybe as if Jesus's teachings were intended and we're like, hey, you can find this anywhere you want.
01:21:17.000And even in 2014, there's parts of Africa where people are regularly burned to death for being witches.
01:21:23.000There's a bunch of videos of it online of people convincing people that they're witches or that someone has bewitched.
01:21:30.000A spell is cast under them and families are literally selling everything they have and forcing themselves into indentured servitude to pay for a witch doctor to cure their children of being witches.
01:21:41.000It's a serious, serious issue that they have over there in 2014. This day and age.
01:26:30.000We can have these conversations once...
01:26:32.000But if we have them twice, and then three times, and then four times, and then I don't see you for six months and you're fatter, you can go fuck yourself, okay?
01:27:18.000But I know for a fact that some people change.
01:27:21.000So, either you're going to be one of those motherfuckers that changes, or you're not going to be one of those motherfuckers that changes.
01:27:26.000You can get philosophical all day long and say, there is no free will, and I'm not going to do it because there's no free will, and hey, I'm just happy being me.
01:27:32.000What a good way to let yourself off the hook there.
01:27:42.000You know, I think William James, because I studied a lot of philosophy, and his take on the free will argument was one of my favorites.
01:27:48.000It was like, I don't know if there is free will or not, but my life is a hell of a lot better if I believe it is true.
01:27:54.000And I'm going to be fucking making decisions for myself that are going to benefit my life, and I'm going to act sure as shit as if there is free will.
01:28:56.000In a different way, and that's just from my own experiences of separating myself from that robotic mind and just becoming that higher part of yourself.
01:29:08.000And that is the part of you that really does have free will.
01:29:11.000There's this higher consciousness that can stop everything.
01:30:04.000That is free will broken down to its most beneficial aspect.
01:30:07.000The most beneficial aspect of free will is the ability to choose to better yourself, to be influenced by positive things, whether it's love or whatever it is.
01:30:16.000Well, what if those things didn't happen?
01:30:18.000You wouldn't have free will because it's not free will.
01:30:20.000It's just you reacting to your environment.
01:30:34.000And people who have never truly tested their will, if you never truly tried to run up that mountain with that 130-pound rock on your back, if you never really tried to do jiu-jitsu and tried to do battle with another skilled person for 20 fucking minutes where your heart's ready to explode and your chest and your fucking arms are made out of rubber,
01:30:52.000You don't know about pushing yourself.
01:31:20.000And there is recounting special experiences that are fascinating.
01:31:29.000I love talking to martial artists that talk about the greatest victories I love talking to.
01:31:33.000And that doesn't mean they're bragging.
01:31:35.000It doesn't mean don't talk about accomplishments.
01:31:37.000But most people know the difference between enacting and...
01:31:44.000Re-enacting experiences and pulling their lessons out of those experiences.
01:31:49.000And people who are just trying to pump themselves up.
01:31:52.000And when you're around someone who's just trying to pump themselves up and they're bullshitting, it's a gross, oily feeling.
01:31:58.000It comes from a need deep inside to fill up some void they fill in their own mind, in their own ego, in their own...
01:32:06.000So that need requires positive reinforcement from other people, but that's going to be a vacuous hole that they're never going to fill.
01:32:14.000And so unless they've already conquered that, they're not going to be that good.
01:32:17.000You have to get past that to really be one of the true masters, unless there's a rare occasion where, as we said before, someone's raw ability is just so unbelievably savage on another level that they do get to be ostensibly a champion.
01:32:34.000You know, without actually having gone through it.
01:32:36.000I'm sure there are cases of that where someone is just so fucking gifted that they've gotten away with not actually facing the demons on the journey.
01:33:42.000He was buying Bentleys and Rolls Royces every day and punched Mitch Blood Green at a fucking Harlem haberdashery at 2 o'clock in the morning.
01:33:50.000He wasn't living like some fucking stoic monk.
01:33:58.000My point is, he was the baddest motherfucker of all time while he was doing all his craziness.
01:34:04.000But the thing that he did do is insane amounts of work, insane intensity, insane focus and determination, and a deep, deep, deep knowledge of his craft.
01:34:37.000Jamie, pull up a video of Jack Dempsey.
01:34:39.000This is a perfect example of how someone can be inspired by someone who sucks compared to them.
01:34:45.000Because Tyson was just this spring-loaded.
01:34:48.000Like you took a piece of metal and you just fucking bent it back all the way.
01:34:52.000He was boxing when it hit this new, incredible level where so many things were involved.
01:34:59.000First of all, there was decades and decades and decades, over a hundred years of knowledge when it came to what was effective, what was not effective.
01:35:52.000There was no standing eight counts back then.
01:35:55.000They would drop you and then when you would get on one knee and as soon as your knee lifted off the ground they'd fucking punch you in the face again.
01:36:02.000Which, it sounds gangster, but look at MMA. MMA, you go to the ground, they fucking mount your face and punch you into oblivion.
01:36:36.000When Mike Tyson fought Marvis Frazier, it was when he was on his way to the heavyweight title.
01:36:41.000He had not defeated Trevor Burbick yet, but he was on his way.
01:36:45.000But just pull it up so you could just see the fight.
01:36:48.000Because the fight only lasts for about fucking ten seconds.
01:36:51.000But he swarms that motherfucker in a way that to this day is the most terrifying beating I've ever seen anybody give anybody inside a boxing ring.
01:37:01.000Because Marvis Frazier has zero chance.
01:37:05.000He was the son of one of the greatest of all time and didn't really have it himself.
01:37:09.000And he was fighting a guy who was going to be the greatest heavyweight of all time in his greatest time when he's surging and coming up Looking for a shot at the title.
01:37:20.000And he just corners Marvis Frazier here and just unfucking loads.
01:38:39.000And that guy went to jail countless times just for profanity, just for speaking his mind and talking about the language that we use.
01:38:50.000I mean, he would use profanity in talking about how odd it is that we have these restrictions on language.
01:38:56.000You hear so many people talk about how they're building off the backs of the giants from times ago, you know, from...
01:39:04.000Whatever it is in science and art and sport and all of that, you build off of what is created before and make it generally better.
01:39:15.000You get to take what they knew, and the best people do this, take what they knew, take how far they went, and then take it even farther.
01:39:22.000And then you think about some things like you look at Graham Hancock's work and then you wonder, well, what happens if everything just gets fucking taken away and you have to start over?
01:39:31.000What if all the UFC tapes completely went out of people's consciousness?
01:39:36.000This whole generation, it's only 25 years, this generation gets wiped out, a new one comes up.
01:39:41.000They've got to figure that shit out all over again.
01:39:43.000And they're going to suck for a long time.
01:41:43.000If you showed someone, and they didn't have any knowledge of martial arts at all, and you showed them Edson Barbosa versus Terry Edom, where Edson Barbosa hits him with this wheel kick from hell.
01:41:52.000Like, one of the worst wheel kicks I've ever seen anybody absorb in any combat sport ever.
01:45:26.000These techniques, you don't even know what a guy's doing to you.
01:45:29.000And when it's happening to you, it's even more confusing because you can't see what's going on sometimes when you're getting strangled or when you're getting armbarred.
01:45:37.000There's a mass of legs and arms and tangle and you're trying to grapple and all of a sudden those legs are across your face.
01:45:43.000You're not even seeing what's happening and you're getting armbarred.
01:45:45.000You're not sure, especially in the beginning.
01:45:47.000You don't recognize the dangerous positions.
01:45:49.000You don't know when to defend or even how to defend.
01:45:52.000So when you get stuck in these spots, it's literally a mystery while your arm is screaming in pain.
01:47:10.000When you feel someone who's really good at getting those butterfly guards in and flipping you here and there, it's a skill that you develop, the ability to lift someone up and manipulate them.
01:47:20.000And a lot of people don't understand How high a level the top level jujitsu guys have achieved because you only see jujitsu in MMA and jujitsu in MMA is a lot it's actually like less advanced than kickboxing in MMA because there's some there's some really like high-level kickboxing that you see occasionally in MMA with elite fighters and also kickboxing in MMA is a tad more dangerous Then kickboxing and kickboxing because the gloves are smaller.
01:48:09.000It's not like a boxing punch with that big glove.
01:48:11.000It's a different sort of thunderous effect that a really hard puncher with an MMA glove has on.
01:48:17.000But when there's no striking, then you get to see what real high-level jiu-jitsu is all about.
01:48:23.000And you get to see a guy like a Jacare or a Hodger Gracie or a Krohn Gracie or Marcelo Garcia, these super, super high-level guys going at it.
01:48:33.000And you get to see jiu-jitsu that is on a level that you almost never see when there's punches involved and kicks involved.
01:48:39.000So to someone who doesn't know what really high-level jiu-jitsu looks like, when you think you kind of have an idea of what the baseline is, well, you know, I've seen Anderson Silva tap out Chael Sonnen on the ground, so I'm pretty sure I know what jiu-jitsu looks like.
01:48:54.000You really don't, because Anderson Silva gets tapped out if he goes to jiu-jitsu tournaments.
01:48:57.000There's a video of him getting tapped out while he was a champion.
01:49:05.000The level, the super, super high level jiu-jitsu is fucking wild to watch, because these guys are masters, and they're ninjas, and they're hitting these High-speed moves and countering these moves, and you can watch guys, like, really,
01:49:20.000like, technical guys, and you're watching these wild rolls, and it's like, Jesus Christ!
01:49:26.000You know, it's such a beautiful thing that all of these arts kind of got a testing ground, and I wish it could be applied to other things, because just in the way that the UFC made people take the very best from everything, the very best from karate, the very best from taekwondo, the very best from jiu-jitsu,
01:49:41.000wrestling, All these different things.
01:49:47.000Obviously, jujitsu's piece of the pie was a big fucking meaty piece of the pie.
01:49:51.000But everything had a little point, except for maybe some weird kungfus that probably contributed maybe only the tiniest little sliver of something.
01:50:00.000But then in life, people are still, because there isn't that proving ground, with like philosophies and meditation techniques and yoga schools, they get so rigid in defending their way, their dogma of what they think, you know, this is the only way.
01:50:19.000You know, it's a shame that there isn't some way to really have that kind of intercourse where you test every different skill and just use what works.
01:50:28.000But, you know, I think we can do that ourselves anyways.
01:50:31.000And I think that's the right philosophy.
01:50:33.000Take a little bit from all of these great religious philosophies, these schools of thought.
01:50:38.000Buddhism, Zen, Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, Islam.
01:50:44.000Some might be fatter piece of the pie for you than others.
01:50:47.000But everything has some way to contribute to this.
01:50:50.000And all these other techniques, you know, if you like transcendental meditation, okay, maybe that's a big piece, but maybe try some of the other meditation cycles.
01:50:58.000Or if you like Bikram yoga, okay, that can be a piece, but try these other things too.
01:51:03.000The same thing needs to be applied across the fucking board.
01:51:07.000But because there's no way for these people to battle and for people to ostensibly see it and prove it, it doesn't happen.
01:51:12.000And you get stuck back in 1970s martial arts where everybody's defending their stupid dojo, when really the best way is a little bit of everything.
01:51:43.000But yeah, those guys, they're so rigid about that being the only way, and it's 18 postures, and it's at this fucking degree temperature, and everything else is bullshit.
01:51:56.000But I kind of like doing some other shit too.
01:51:58.000Sexual harassment scandal rocks yoga community after Bikram, the dude's name is Bikram Chudhori, I don't know if I'm saying that right, is slapped with a lawsuit.
01:52:10.000And apparently the dude drives Bentleys and shit, and he's a super baller.
01:52:22.000Imagine the yoga pussy that guy gets with his little speedos on, doing stretches with chicks, and it's all about releasing and pressure and positions and just sliding it into your pussy.
01:52:34.000Look at him there with two hot chicks.
01:56:42.000Hey, pull up that video of the drug czar getting yelled at, because I want to hear that.
01:56:48.000Because this is not something that would have even happened a few years ago.
01:56:53.000This is some new shit, and I'm going to pee, because I've been drinking too much water.
01:56:58.000With all due respect to the fellows on the other side, that schizophrenia...
01:57:04.000Which my father was a psychiatrist and taught me something about could be described as a party that talks about saving money all the time and being concerned with deficits and being totally driven by that, but not being concerned about saving money when people are in jail for marijuana and mandatory minimums that judges have said were awful.
01:57:24.000And for non-violent, first-time offenders who are serving lifetime sentences in jail, costing us $30,000 a year, and the population of jails has gone up 800% in the last 30 years.
01:58:09.000And every second that we spend in this country trying to enforce marijuana laws is a second that we're not enforcing heroin laws.
01:58:20.000And heroin and meth are the two drugs that are ravaging our country.
01:58:25.000And every death, including Mr. Hoffman's, is partly the responsibility of the federal government's drug priorities for not putting total emphasis on the drugs that kill, that cause people to be addicted and have to steal to support their habit.
01:58:41.000And heroin and meth is where all of your priorities should be.
01:58:46.000Heroin is getting into the arms of young people.
01:58:51.000And when we put marijuana on the same level as heroin and LSD and meth and crack and cocaine, we are telling young people not to listen to the adults about the ravages and the problems, and they don't listen because they know you're wrong.
01:59:04.000With all due respect, you should be listening to scientists.
01:59:08.000I understand the parents who are grieved because their child died of an overdose.
02:00:50.000If there was a link to schizophrenia and marijuana, everybody would be schizophrenic because everyone's smoking weed.
02:00:56.000I don't mean everyone, but I mean goddamn a lot of people.
02:00:59.000You know, the thing that's so fucking incredibly frustrating and infuriating is, as part of the criteria for Schedule 1, the drug has to have no medicinal benefit.
02:01:12.000And countless fucking medicinal benefits are being shown by a lot of these drugs.
02:01:18.000I mean, the success rate of them testing things and getting positive results, it's only been recent they've been able to get access to things like psilocybin and even the marijuana studies that they've been able...
02:01:28.000They're still hardly ever able to even work with marijuana.
02:01:31.000It's one of the toughest ones to work with, talking to the people at MAPS. But they're testing these things, and it's coming back amazingly positive.
02:01:38.000You watch something like that Sanjay Gupta completely reversing his policy because he watched some kid who was on 14 fucking pharmaceuticals that were going to kill her, and then she smokes weed because she had epilepsy, smokes weed that has high CBD and is doing better than she ever has in her life.
02:01:56.000And he's like, Okay, I'm a fucking, I was a dickhead, I was a doctor, but now I know what fucking happens.
02:02:02.000Well, good for him, because he was saying a lot of really dumb shit about weed.
02:02:05.000Yeah, and he fucking switched his, you look at the facts and you can't help but change your opinion, that there is medicinal benefit, period.
02:03:19.000And that's Schedule 1 drug, the most illegal, amongst the most illegal things you can buy.
02:03:25.000It's like at the circus where you hit that thing with a mallet and it goes all the way to the top.
02:03:29.000That goes all the way to the top of the crazy meter.
02:03:32.000But stop and think about how nuts it is that that same drug is also now legal in two states.
02:03:38.000These states have gotten so fed up, Washington and Seattle, both two of the most awesome spots in the country, or Washington and Colorado, they've gotten to this point where they're like, you know what?
02:04:51.000There's too much absolute, irrefutable information.
02:04:54.000And the cool thing about these states is, you know, if you have real good states' rights, the ability for states to regulate a lot of these things, it's going to be a great way to ensure that some of these draconian, crazy, bullshit laws don't get passed.
02:05:09.000Because some states are going to wake up.
02:05:11.000You know, in this big nationwide consciousness, it's easier to kind of get enough dummies circled together from everywhere to block something.
02:05:18.000But, you know, in one state, you know, you have a lot of more flexibility to actually spread information, create a new kind of vibe and create new rules like they decided they're not supposed to be able to do that.
02:05:29.000They're not supposed to be able to say weed is legal, but they just said, we're just fucking doing it.
02:05:34.000You know, I don't care if the federal laws say you can't, we're going to do it.
02:05:37.000And maybe you could come in with the feds and cause trouble, but, you know, we're going to take that risk.
02:05:42.000And I think putting a lot more rights like that back to the states is the way to go.
02:05:56.000They're supposed to supersede the federal laws.
02:05:58.000And I think we're also seeing this overwhelming wave of information starting to shift the way they interact with us and the way they're forced to deal with certain situations when it comes to world events, like Syria, for example.
02:06:13.000When Obama went on TV and was talking about military action for Syria, the whole world went, Boo!
02:06:38.000No, it's not important we invade Syria.
02:06:40.000And then they stopped talking about it.
02:06:42.000When was the last time you heard Syria in the news?
02:06:44.000When was the last time you saw Syria on CNN? When was the last time you saw Syria on Fox News where they were saying the invasion is imminent, the imminent invasion of Syria?
02:07:41.000And the marijuana truth is something that seems so impossible and improbable.
02:07:46.000There's so much from the moment that it was made illegal, from the whole conspiracy to make it illegal by a guy who was a paper manufacturer and owned newspapers, William Randolph Hearst.
02:07:58.000If you read the story of how marijuana was made illegal, I won't bore you with the details, because I've told it on this podcast too many times.
02:10:15.000I love that they were the first, you know, them and Washington State, but just Colorado is just, it's such a fucking gangster cowboy state, you know?
02:10:24.000It's like, it's such a weird combination of, like, Western pioneer people who moved there and really cool people who stayed, you know?
02:10:33.000It's like, everybody else was going to California and the people that stopped in Colorado went, wait, [...
02:10:54.000When you find a place that's unbelievably physically beautiful, like Colorado, I always think that for some reason that is gonna accumulate a lot of intelligent and cool people.
02:11:05.000Because there's a benefit in having beauty around you.
02:11:08.000There's a reason why people spend so much money on art.
02:11:13.000Do they have nice cars to drive, or do they have nice cars to look at?
02:11:17.000Well, it's not just to drive, because if it was just to drive, every car would look like a rock on the outside, and inside of it would just be this really opulent, luxurious thing that made you feel good as a passenger.
02:11:30.000No, most people don't even worry about what the inside looks like.
02:11:33.000You look at the inside of that car, they've got fucking jack-in-the-box wrappers on the ground.
02:12:06.000But if you are fortunate in that regard, if you live in a neighborhood where there's beautiful trees and you see the sunset and you see it poking through these trees and you look over at the lake and it's fucking beautiful and you see a fish jump and you're like, wow!
02:12:22.000And when you live where that is, you're probably a little on the ball.
02:12:27.000At the very least, you're inspired by all the stuff being around you, inspired by all this beauty.
02:12:33.000Yeah, it definitely makes a difference.
02:12:36.000I think landscape really plays a bigger part than people give credit.
02:12:40.000I mean, you look at some of the hardest, harshest places, and they're dry as fuck, generally.
02:12:45.000As far as from a kind of philosophical and religious and kind of an area that's really difficult, some of the Some of the worst kind of ideas.
02:12:55.000It's not always the case, but you see a lot in like really challenging environments that are really fucked up.
02:13:00.000You get people who are really kind of obstinate in a lot of their ways of thinking.
02:13:04.000We're in the really kind of beautiful regions like Nepal versus China.
02:13:08.000You know, when you're around that kind of awe-inspiring, it's not that often that you see really crazy, you know, kind of philosophies that come up.
02:13:16.000I don't know if it's the people move to that or whether the environment actually itself kind of has some impact on On the psychology of the people who live around it.
02:13:25.000And there's also, of course, people that go to areas where there's unbelievable beauty and exploit them.
02:13:32.000Europeans, you know, how many people have gone to the jungle and exploited the Amazon, the indigenous people?
02:13:37.000How many people have found resources in these strange, beautiful places and just fucked over tribe members?
02:13:44.000You know, McKenna was talking about this slaughter in the Amazon where, I forget which country, where they were killing people for rubber.
02:13:52.000When they found out about rubber, it was like in the early 20th century.
02:13:56.000And they were going in there and giving these people, like you had to have, you had to bring back this amount of rubber every day.
02:14:03.000And if you didn't, they would cut that amount of weight that's missing off in human flesh.
02:14:11.000I mean, they killed thousands and thousands of these people.
02:14:13.000At one point in time, they had over 100,000 people in this area, and then they were down to just a couple thousand by the time whoever the fuck rescued them.
02:14:26.000I don't recall the entire story, but...
02:14:28.000The concept of giving them a quota and then removing that same amount in flesh if they didn't reach that quota.
02:14:36.000Cutting people's arms off and doing it in front of everybody to make sure that these people were absolutely terrified to go out.
02:14:42.000People are capable of horrible, horrible things.
02:14:46.000But my point is that when they're not, when society's stable, when you're not dealing with that sort of evil invader, you know, Mongol invasion type situation, when you're in a place that's beautiful, a lot of times the people there are pretty cool.
02:15:32.000But it's not the same as when I go to a beautiful beach, or I go to a beautiful mountain, or there's even beautiful desert landscapes that I love.
02:15:41.000But it's funny how there's something that just goes and hits the right buttons in the brain and says, this is beautiful.
02:15:47.000I know they've studied that with people.
02:15:48.000People, it's some form of symmetry and health.
02:15:52.000But with nature, it's even kind of more curious.
02:15:54.000It's just maybe more like there's a life force or an order to it.
02:16:01.000Maybe we're part of that creating force, and when we do that, we like to look at things that look like they're ordered and organized by some kind of presence.
02:17:10.000The colors are so vibrant and beautiful and amazing.
02:17:13.000And they come in a lot of these, they actually call it the chrysanthemum, which is named after a flower, because they come in these kaleidoscopic patterns of things that actually do look like a flower.
02:17:24.000So I think there may be something to that theory.
02:17:26.000Maybe in whatever realm beyond that you're accessing, or whatever nether regions of your mind, if you don't want to go to realm beyond, there's some ideal of what you see there.
02:17:36.000And looking at a flower, like a beautiful blue chrysanthemum, reminds you of that, even if It's subliminally and you haven't had a psychedelic experience.
02:17:45.000That triggers whatever you know of some way back home or some other realm or some part of your brain that you don't really access often.
02:18:37.000When you're confronted with these archetypes that exist in so many different pieces of artwork and you see it right in front of your face, you're just like, whoa.
02:19:04.000Because that's really, back in the ancient days, okay, water kind of reflects, but there wasn't all this glass and shit that we created now, but they would be able to see something in that gemstone, you know, all the facets and the colors and the light.
02:19:19.000And it was so beautiful to them because that was something that they could only see in their, you know, these visions or that nether region of the mind.
02:19:27.000So flowers, gems, all these things that we prize are actually hearkening back to those, you know, those visions that we have.
02:19:34.000Yeah, and for people to think that it's total, complete horseshit, one of the reasons why they think that is...
02:19:39.000Your brain most certainly produces psychedelic drugs.
02:19:43.000And they think that your brain produces them in large quantities while you're dreaming.
02:19:49.000And so they're doing some studies on that now.
02:19:51.000The Cottonwood Research Foundation, which is where...
02:19:54.000Sorry, I have a cough drop in my mouth.
02:19:57.000Dr. Rick Strassman, who wrote the book DMT, The Spirit Molecule.
02:20:01.000He was supposed to be here on the podcast last month, but he's such a fucking hippie.
02:20:19.000I was like, dude, get a phone, you fucking...
02:20:22.000It'd be so easy to fix that conversation, you know?
02:20:26.000I call you, you call me, but he's in the middle of some new tests, and he's got a new book coming out, so we'll have him on soon, for sure.
02:21:26.000And if that is the case, and your brain does produce this stuff, for sure it's endogenous to the human body.
02:21:32.000For sure it's produced by the liver and the lungs.
02:21:35.000And they're pretty sure, for sure, it's produced by the pineal gland.
02:21:38.000And pretty sure that while you're sleeping, that shit's coming out.
02:21:41.000So one of the interesting facets about...
02:21:45.000A lot of psychedelic trips, especially DMT, is that after it's over, it's very difficult to hang on to.
02:21:51.000The memories, like, they drift away and they fade away so quickly.
02:21:55.000It's like they're so intense and then when they're over, there's this lost feeling.
02:22:00.000And I've been really thinking lately, because of my experiences with alpha brain and isolation tanks, that there might be something to that with psychedelic trips.
02:22:13.000Having a psychedelic trip while you're really loaded up with nootropics.
02:22:19.000We'd have to figure out what is the optimum blend to give you the most clarity in recalling your experience.
02:22:26.000Because just like a dream, DMT disappears.
02:22:30.000And so the idea is that when you're asleep, you know, we just accept the fact that we shut off for eight hours a night, if you're lucky, eight hours, and disappear and then wake up and then, oh, I got a crazy dream.
02:22:42.000I was on a skateboard and there was a missile coming my way or whatever the fuck your dream is.
02:22:52.000You might be in full-blown psychedelic dream state at several times during the night where you are just like a DMT trip, just like the most intense mushroom trip with your eyes closed in a dark room, like all those things.
02:23:06.000You might be experiencing that on a regular basis.
02:23:09.000And one of my reasons for being inclined to think that is that every time I've done DMT, I go, and not even the times now, but the times when I first did it, I go, oh, I've been here.
02:24:35.000So it's almost like consciousness, like being conscious, being a person who is awake and turning on your television and hitting your keyboard is a mode that you're not supposed to operate that dimension with.
02:24:48.000So you're sort of tricking the universe when you introduce that dimension to a conscious mode.
02:24:54.000It's like the conscious mode is like, what is the...
02:25:41.000People think when you encounter, you know, some kind of entities or beings, they're going to be real boring.
02:25:45.000Like, well, hello, welcome to my realm.
02:25:49.000Every time that I've communicated with any kind of spirit form in one of these trips, they can be funny, they're interesting, they're vibrant.
02:25:56.000You know, it's like, it's not what you think.
02:26:06.000Well, we're so ridiculous in our ideas of how the world should be, how rigid scholars and learned people are supposed to be.
02:26:13.000We have this idea that if you have knowledge and wisdom and experience and if you're somehow or another quote-unquote enlightened, then you're going to be like bland and flat.
02:26:25.000So one of the third experience I did in New Mexico, I came back and my next up on the path after the snuffing the 5-MeO-DMT was a mushroom and Syrian rue trip.
02:28:42.000So the fact that I was in a jungle was incredibly odd to me anyways.
02:28:46.000But I'm riding on the head of this cobra in the back of a jungle.
02:28:49.000And I'm talking with my grandmother, who was somehow imbued in the spirit of this cobra.
02:28:57.000And she was still alive, by the way, which is another interesting fact.
02:29:01.000But anyway, so she's imbued in the spirit of this cobra and I'm dipping down in the earth and much like the ayahuasca visions, I'm having bugs come inside me and explode.
02:29:10.000And meanwhile, I'm laid out on my back and I'm shivering and I'm kind of lifting my chest up.
02:29:16.000And I must have looked kind of crazy to the shaman, but she must have been kind of used to it.
02:29:20.000As I was sweating profusely and I needed blankets, I was cold and I'm shivering and I'm going through this in this really intense vision.
02:29:28.000But all the while, my grandfather, who's Aubrey, my grandfather Aubrey's out on these rocks and, you know, in a whole different environment.
02:29:36.000And he's just laughing, like laughing so warmly and like kindly because he's saying, Oh, you're really going through it now.
02:29:44.000Oh, she's going to take you down there into the dirt.
02:29:48.000And he was so happy and joyous about doing that.
02:29:51.000I've never met my grandfather, Aubrey.
02:29:53.000He was so happy and joyous about it, that experience, that I started laughing, too, because I thought it was hilarious.
02:29:59.000Even though spiders are, like, going into my eyes and exploding and I'm...
02:30:03.000Riding on the snake and I have no control.
02:30:05.000I'm dipping down into the earth and I'm expelling the sweat and you know Aubrey's just laughing so I'm laughing and it was this whole wild experience but the thing that impressed me the most was just how vibrant and happy it wasn't like you know you see these mediums and it's all so somber and serious Aubrey says to say You know,
02:30:27.000good luck in your next algebra test, or I don't know what the fuck it was, but he was just happy as shit, you know?
02:30:33.000And that was the kind of experience that I tend to find when I encounter these entities, but either family or these other things.
02:30:42.000They're almost that version in its best self.
02:30:45.000That's also what you're looking for, though.
02:30:47.000You're looking for love and you're looking for them to be full of life.
02:30:50.000So if you really are creating the universe inside your own mind, that's what you as a positive person seeking positive experiences would create.
02:31:08.000That psilocybin, the active ingredient in magic mushrooms, after being ingested, the body removes phosphorus atoms from the psilocybin, converting it to psilicin.
02:31:19.000Psilicin differs from dimethyltryptamine, DMT, by one oxygen.
02:31:24.000That psilocybin, psilicin, he likes to think of it as orally active DMT. That's Rick Strassman's take on it.
02:31:59.000I mean, if you're taking an MAO inhibitor and mushrooms, I've heard people have horrendous trips taking pharmaceutical MAO inhibitors and mushrooms.
02:32:21.000When they first found it, they wanted to call it telepathine.
02:32:26.000But they couldn't because they didn't realize that when they discovered it by use of the ayahuasca shaman, they didn't understand that it had already been discovered.
02:32:36.000That the chemical component of it already had a name.
02:33:30.000And you can only imagine how many cool ways and places and the knowledge that was out there.
02:33:35.000I mean, I'm very fortunate I was able to go with someone who'd been doing this, leading people on these journeys for 20 years, you know, and had experience, knew kind of the properties of what to do, knew what to mix, knew the amounts to do it.
02:33:58.000And that's why the only thing I recommend now is going to some places where I've been in Peru to do ayahuasca so I can trust the The shaman, the person, the maestro leading the ceremony.
02:34:34.000Yeah, and if you're a person who has a job that you like, you want to keep that job, you know, you don't want to be fired, you want to be outcast, you want to make sure you make your mortgage, you want to keep feeding your family, and then they're going to piss test you.
02:35:53.000Yeah, and that whole idea, if they really were out there for your benefit and locking you up was for your benefit, they'd lock up all the fat people.
02:36:00.000They'd lock up all the cigarette smokers.
02:36:02.000They'd lock up everybody doing any bad thing.
02:36:04.000Duck Dynasty would go right off the air.
02:37:34.000And if you've never done that, man, we're having some weird conversation here.
02:37:38.000Because everybody who has done that agrees.
02:37:41.000Except Redman, but you can't trust that guy.
02:37:44.000He doesn't think it does anything, but that's him.
02:37:48.000But everybody else that I know that has had a blown-out, breakthrough, psychedelic experience, they believe that it changes lives.
02:37:56.000They believe that it enhances your personality, gives you a new perspective, gives you a new way to look at the world, and is probably hugely beneficial to your growth as a human being.
02:38:07.000But the people that don't, they're the ones who judge it.
02:38:10.000The people that haven't had that experience, they're the ones who come out against it.
02:39:14.000It's not like it was back in the old days.
02:39:16.000Back in the old days, maybe you could walk your bare feet on the ground and you were pretty connected and you didn't need to take these massive psychedelic trips, although they probably did and fucking loved it all throughout all cultures.
02:39:30.000But now in this crazy, weird world, it's so much easier to get off track.
02:39:35.000And you look on TV and it's really frustrating.
02:39:38.000I get really physically antsy and frustrated when I Go somewhere and they have like real housewives on TV because it's like so visible the unconsciousness that's going on and this drama that's all nonsensically ego based and all of this shit that's being kind of pushed out and it's filtering through our consciousness and then you know to ban the only thing that can really well not the only thing but one of the most powerful tools to realign you it's just a it's a recipe for fucking disaster And it's where we
02:42:50.000But the Bieber thing, this kid is experiencing not just a level of fame that most human beings will never experience.
02:42:59.000Almost all human beings will never experience.
02:43:01.00099.9% of famous people will never experience the level of fame that Justin Bieber is on.
02:43:08.000Not only that, he's doing it in the craziest time ever to be famous.
02:43:14.000An era where there is just constant 24-hour images coming in of everything you do.
02:43:21.000Every time he drives fast, every time he smokes pot, every time he gets pulled over, every time he gets arrested, every time something crazy happens, and he's clearly out of control.
02:43:30.000He's 19. He's got a half a fucking billion dollars in his pocket.
02:43:35.000And he's just running around like a maniac with the Willy Wonka golden ticket.
02:43:39.000What would anybody expect this kid to do differently?
02:43:42.000Well, every action needs an equally powerful reaction.
02:43:45.000And I think if you were in that very challenge, I'm not going to deny it, it's an immensely challenging situation.
02:43:50.000You got to go fucking overboard the other way to make sure that you keep some level of sanity.
02:43:56.000Or ride that bitch right into the beach, Justin Bieber style.
02:44:00.000Smoke pot on airplanes until the pilots have to do fucking oxygen in order to stay in the air.
02:45:20.000They run like fucking World War Z, just charging at them.
02:45:26.000You know, even Alexander the Great, he was not perfect in any way, but he had fucking Aristotle, which was one of the greatest minds in the universe, as his mentor, you know, to kind of keep that guy in check, because he conquered the fucking known world at 25 times.
02:45:43.000You know, he had that Justin Bieber-esque kind of power.
02:45:46.000Even more crazy because he was a murderer.
02:45:47.000Yeah, because he could do whatever, but he's not going down as Genghis, one of these terrible people.
02:45:53.000Yeah, I'm sure he wasn't fucking perfect, but he had, you know, he did some sensible acts Because maybe he had, like, one of the greatest mentors of all time.
02:46:04.000Obviously, Seneca wasn't very successful with Nero.
02:46:07.000That thing fucking went straight into the fucking dirt and didn't really work.
02:46:11.000But I just feel like if someone with some real sense and some good psychedelics could get to him, he could be a fucking powerful force for good.
02:46:19.000Listen, Willie D from the Ghetto Boys said it best.
02:48:40.0008% of all the males living in the regions of the former Mongolian Empire carried a nearly identical Y chromosome, suggesting that they were all direct descendants of Genghis Khan.
02:49:07.000And I've said this before, but if you haven't ever listened to it, you've got to listen to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History, The Wrath of the Khan.
02:49:15.000In five parts, and it's riveting the whole time.
02:49:36.000All about Martin Luther and Constantine and the Bible and all the craziness that went on when they converted the Bible to a phonetic language.
02:49:46.000And the way he sets it up is just fucking brilliant, man.
02:52:39.000I appreciate all you guys who listen and stuff.
02:52:42.000I mean, some bad motherfuckers really collected some of the coolest people in the universe are coming, attaching to this momentum and creating this wave.
02:52:50.000You know, you're a part of all these things that we show on the podcast, these things about weed laws being legalized.
02:52:55.000I mean, you're a nugget of consciousness, so many of you that are pushing this forward.
02:53:02.000You know, as soon as the people move the needles themselves, telling your friends and spreading the word and talking openly and being cool.
02:53:26.000But the positive resonance is as much responsible for these thoughts as anything, because it's reinforcing it.
02:53:35.000I mean, a podcast, much like stand-up comedy, it's an art form that is meaningless without an audience.
02:53:41.000Without an audience, it would just be my edification.
02:53:43.000It would just be these conversations, which I really appreciate, that I could sit down.
02:53:48.000With so many cool people like you or like Cameron Haynes or like, you know, fill in the blank, you know, Graham Hancock, Dr. Amit Goswami, all these really cool people that I've been able to sit down and talk to, that would just be for myself, you know?
02:54:02.000I would have never been able to pull it off, though.
02:54:04.000I wouldn't be able to say, hey, could you sit down and talk with me for three hours?
02:54:08.000They'd be like, what the fuck am I... I got...
02:54:30.000It's been hugely beneficial for me because it's given me this vehicle for exploring these ideas.
02:54:36.000It's giving me this ability to tap into a million different paths, different information that's coming at me all the time, different points of view from people that I deeply respect and I don't think the way they think and I get to see the way they think and I go, huh,
02:55:01.000But one of the reasons why I don't sometimes is because I want to hear what they're thinking.
02:55:05.000Instead of constantly judging everything that comes out of people's mouths, which I do a lot, what I like to do sometimes is I like to let it play out.
02:55:14.000I like to hear the full version of it.