The cost of a stamp went up to 49 cents today, but if you're complaining about a stamp being 49 cents, you're a douchebag. If you had to give me money to take a fucking letter across the country, I think you'd want more than 49 cents.
00:00:37.000My mom sent me a letter that had the wrong postage on it, and it went all the way to Burbank, and then the Burbank post office is like, hey, this doesn't have enough postage on it and sent it back.
00:00:49.000The real issue is if you have a small business, if you have a small business, if you send things through the mail, that's a place where a service like Stamps.com is invaluable.
00:00:58.000Because what Stamps.com does is it allows you to print U.S. postage on a regular home computer.
00:01:33.000It's really a beautiful way to save a lot of time, especially if you send things on a regular basis, especially if they're varying weights.
00:01:43.000You know it's annoying and I know it's annoying.
00:01:45.000This is an easy way to work around that.
00:01:47.000Stamps.com always keeps their rates up to date, so you'll always get the exact postage you need every time right from your desk, even if the government changes the rate, which I think they're entitled to.
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00:04:08.000Well, I guess it was 20 people initially, and I think it got down to 17 or 16.
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00:05:17.000It was a very mild Jack and Coke though.
00:05:19.000Point being, the issues that you deal with when you are hungover, there's a bunch.
00:05:26.000There's dehydration, but there's also depletion, depletion of all the beautiful things that make your mind rich and interesting, like serotonin.
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00:07:10.000How fitting that our friend David Seaman is here the very day that Mount Gox, the big storage place or whatever the fuck it is, the site, the...
00:07:37.000Gox was run by this guy who is a allegedly kind of a piece of shit.
00:07:44.000I got to say, like, allegedly, as you guys do, but as a respectable journalist, I've heard sources say he's a piece of shit.
00:07:52.000And so there is an error in the way that his site interacts with the overall Bitcoin network in the same way that if you are using email and you happen to download a shitty email program, like a knockoff version of Outlook, and it fucks up the way you send your emails, doesn't mean there's a problem with email.
00:08:10.000There's a problem with what you're using and the way you've implemented it.
00:08:14.000And email has been used enough by now that we know that it works.
00:08:17.000And it was kind of a similar issue here where there was an incompetent implementation and some hackers were able to steal over time somewhere between 300 million to 400 million dollars worth of Bitcoin.
00:08:28.000So it's pretty brutal and Bitcoin's taking a bashing in the press, which is well deserved.
00:08:33.000But I personally bought more last night because I've just been reading about it so much that I actually kind of believe it and I'm drinking the Kool-Aid.
00:08:41.000And in that case, when some shit like that happens, it's not a tragedy.
00:08:44.000It's actually kind of an opportunity because I'm like, well, now I can actually buy some more of this instead of only having a little bit of the future currency of the New World Order.
00:08:54.000And I'm already getting shit from people who are like, you're promoting a product that is New World Order designed.
00:08:59.000And I'm like, do you have any evidence of that?
00:09:01.000Like, have you actually read even a tenth as much of the people who are reporting on this shit?
00:09:05.000Like, everything is out there about Bitcoin, and yet they're already moving towards, like, it was created by NWO.
00:09:12.000I think that's sort of what we were talking about before the podcast started, that there's a bunch of people that love for something to be a conspiracy.
00:09:21.000So they look for it in everything and anything.
00:09:24.000I've been involved in things where I know there was no conspiracy.
00:09:28.000I know I was there, and yet I've had people tell me that it was like UFC fights, like that things are fixed, that someone wasn't really injured, and that they're just, it's a big scam, and all it is is to set up another fight.
00:09:58.000It's sort of like a disinformation tactic.
00:10:00.000It's like one of the things they always talk about, like if you read anything about intelligence and you read not intelligence like human intelligence, but like intelligence reporting for the government, one of the things they do when they're trying to control information is they discredit it by attaching it to ridiculous shit.
00:10:18.000It's actually like an actual strategy is you mix in the bullshit with the good stuff, poisons the well, and you don't believe any of it.
00:10:25.000Yeah, it's like if you believe in something absolutely ridiculous along with some really interesting shit, they can automatically point to that ridiculous thing and say, let's say same guy believes that people are reading your mind from a base on the moon.
00:11:01.000Well, that's like that actress, Shirley McLean, has a book.
00:11:04.000Has a book that I was skimming through that's all about how in the 1950s, the U.S. government had a secret meeting with seven different species of alien and there was this council.
00:11:15.000And even though she's a good actress, you're reading this shit and you're like, I can't believe anything you're saying now because this is a little out there.
00:11:38.000I mean, you could Google Shirley McLean and find out all the different spiritual healing energy things that she's into.
00:11:46.000She's just an erotic massage, probably.
00:11:48.000She's a lady that, you know, like, there's a thing that happens to humans, and it's the same thing.
00:11:53.000It happens to men, and it happens for women.
00:11:55.000When they stop being desirable physically, they often look to fantastical and unimaginable things like UFOs or fucking spiritual awakenings and psychic.
00:12:09.000They look for something that drags them out of the mundane existence of their biology.
00:12:14.000Because if a UFO was real, if aliens were real, if Bigfoot was real, if you could really read people's minds, it wouldn't matter if no one wanted to fuck you anymore.
00:12:24.000Yeah, there's something that's bigger than yourself.
00:12:26.000There's a reason why menopausal women, like older women, get really into that kind of shit.
00:12:32.000Like if you look at like, and I'm not saying that young women don't get into it too.
00:12:40.000I mean, this is just one theory, but there's a spiritual thing that happens to a lot of older men and older women where they start looking for, like, you know, paranormal things.
00:12:59.000There's a little of that, Definitely, but in the search for things, the search for things unseen, like the search for Bigfoot, or search for aliens, I really do believe that a lot of what's going on is if aliens were real, it wouldn't matter if no one wanted to fuck them and they're sleeping on their friend's couch and they're 50.
00:13:35.000There was some crazy article, I think, in Scientific American, that if you were to add up all the people who've ever lived on Earth, it's been like 100 billion people.
00:13:46.000Like we're these fucking things that are running around trying to spread our genetic code and then our hearts fill up with cholesterol and we die.
00:13:56.000And so somebody like that feels that they need to find religion or they need to find aliens in order to feel like they're a part of things.
00:14:04.000They're already a part of things and they already don't matter.
00:14:30.000And it happens sooner to women than it does men because for a man, you're like 18 or 20, nobody wants to fuck you because you have nothing going on.
00:15:12.000But if some actress is in a show and she looks old, everybody will say that.
00:15:16.000Yeah, there's definitely something in that.
00:15:18.000But I think like Richard Branson, if he's got a really young hot wife and that wife has got a personal trainer, she's going to let him fuck her.
00:16:43.000They're guys who really kind of get off on being able to bring women back and have nothing going on.
00:16:50.000Look at what a loser I am and I'm still getting laid.
00:16:53.000So that kind of thing, you can use that to your advantage probably.
00:16:55.000That's what I did when I was in college is I was like, yeah, I'm a loser, but if this is what I can pull now, think about 10 years from now when you're actually not a loser, how good things might be.
00:18:44.000I just like women who have their shit together and cougars tend to be more professional, like executive types.
00:18:49.000I no longer go for the starving artists because I always like to be the less crazy person in the relationship.
00:18:58.000And if I'm the one that they're relying on for some kind of stability and I'm like already completely fucking crazy with the stuff I'm working on, that's not a good thing.
00:19:05.000You know, like when somebody's asking me for quarters to use the laundry machine, that's not a good relationship.
00:19:29.000And Her boyfriend, now ex-boyfriend, is not very successful.
00:19:34.000And one of the things that they fight about is that, like, he's just frustrated all the time.
00:19:39.000He can't get anything going with his career.
00:19:41.000He actually, it's funny that something just happened for him right as you know, they broke up.
00:19:46.000You know, that always seems to happen.
00:19:47.000There's like a sometimes a Murphy's Law going on there.
00:19:51.000Maybe, but it's just, you know, we were talking about it and she was talking about how difficult it is to date someone who's really struggling because it becomes a mantra.
00:20:01.000It's like going off in the back of their head at all times.
00:20:22.000Yeah, it's definitely better if you can walk into something where you have a bit of money because when you have money, it's the opposite feeling in your head.
00:20:29.000It's, oh, this could go away if I wanted it to.
00:20:32.000Whatever the problem is, like, this could probably be reduced if I need it to.
00:20:37.000But the big thing that I noticed when I got my first development deal, it wasn't a lot of money, but it was enough money where I could relax.
00:20:47.000Like, I wasn't getting rich, but I was like, holy shit, I've got some money.
00:20:50.000Like, I can really, I don't have to worry about paying my bills.
00:21:26.000So whenever I give people, you know, if I talk to someone who's struggling or talk to someone who's trying to plan their future, I always say, and this is, it's hard to believe, but it is the truth.
00:21:43.000It felt exactly the same as being in a big house.
00:21:45.000Being in a big house is kind of cool, but it's definitely not as, it's not worth what it costs to be in a big house.
00:21:51.000If you think like if you buy a house for a million bucks, the amount of money you have to spend every fucking month on a million dollar house in mortgage and fixing it up and the amount of hours that you have to work if you're, you know, you work a reasonable job, you know, you make 100 grand a year or something like that, normal, you know, good wage.
00:22:38.000And plumbing and electricity and this and that.
00:22:41.000When you really stop and think about how much you're actually working for what you're getting out of it, it's definitely not worth it for most people.
00:22:47.000But what is worth it is to not worry about going to dinner.
00:22:52.000If you can have enough money where you can go and get a meal at a restaurant and not think too much about it, just say, I would like the salmon and not look at the price and say the chicken's this much, but the salmon's, you know, a dollar less.
00:23:06.000Instead of thinking like that, you can just order what you would like.
00:23:09.000You could go to a movie and not worry about the movie.
00:23:12.000All the other shit, like the difference between having a Lexus and having a Mercedes, the difference between having a Toyota and having a Ford.
00:23:32.000But if you don't, don't fucking sweat it.
00:23:34.000Do you have a car that gets you there?
00:23:35.000That's the real difference between your car being repossessed, you having no money for food, you having no money for rent, and being able to pay your bills.
00:24:47.000If you could put another house in there, Edith, if you could jam it in there with no backyard, just fucking stuff it on the actual footprint.
00:25:31.000Well, it's going to get even crazier in the years ahead with Bitcoin because some of the earliest adopters, the amount of coins they have, you think about it, you're like, well, these people are for sure going to be billionaires and they're going to be at the upper end of that.
00:25:42.000They're not even going to be like low-level billionaires.
00:25:45.000Right, but what would happen if they collected?
00:25:49.000Oh, you can't sell them all because then you crash your own market, you know?
00:25:53.000Right, but then what the fuck is the point in having it?
00:25:56.000I think for them, eventually it's about living in a world where you walk into a Store and the price is there in Bitcoin first.
00:26:03.000So I think if they hold out for long enough and if it doesn't get fucked over by too much bad stuff, like the Mt.
00:26:09.000Gox situation, that we could live in a place like that because then you have one price, regardless of what country you're in, you know, kind of like a universal price language.
00:26:20.000Like it's kind of a long shot, but it could actually happen.
00:26:23.000And in that case, that person becomes like science fiction rich.
00:26:26.000You know, like we're talking about somebody who could be worth hundreds of billions of dollars instead of just worth, you know, 10,000 Bitcoins or whatever.
00:27:16.000Yeah, so this company didn't know what the fuck they were doing and didn't know their ass from their elbow in terms of programming languages.
00:27:24.000Like somebody told me they programmed their trading platform in PHP, which I don't know that much about programming, but apparently is like totally not the right language for anything financial.
00:27:33.000And their whole thing is based on this.
00:27:35.000And so they're just super incompetent.
00:27:38.000And for whatever reason, they're the ones who stumbled into this massive market of like, you're now trading billions of dollars of Bitcoins and supporting the whole planet's Bitcoin market.
00:27:49.000And just series of fuck ups at every stage, like bad at PR, bad at communicating what's going on.
00:27:56.000When something doesn't work, they just take it offline, not realizing the implications of like, well, you're going to scare the shit out of the whole market if you just take shit offline and don't tell people in advance.
00:28:05.000And it looks like they got had by somebody, that somebody found an exploit, took the money, even the money that was in cold storage somehow, which was supposed to be impossible, but I'm sure they were incompetent enough to have fucked up somewhere along the way.
00:28:19.000And now we're in the situation we're in now where people are panicked.
00:28:22.000But the good news is that there are other exchanges out there that are much more credible, backed by real companies.
00:28:47.000Okay, so yeah, Bitcoin itself has not been hacked.
00:28:51.000And as far as I know, it's never been hacked.
00:28:53.000Like the actual protocol is 100%, I don't want to say perfect, but if I send you money, there's certainty that I've sent it to you.
00:29:00.000And in this case, they were using something called transaction malleability, which I, full disclosure, don't fully understand this shit.
00:29:09.000But pretty much what I think it is, is like if I write you a check, you have to wait until that check clears before you actually assume you have the money.
00:31:04.000This is like non-stop Bitcoin negative news.
00:31:07.000I think just this news alone is going to make people not invest or do anything with Bitcoin.
00:31:12.000Maybe in the short term, but I had the CEO of CoinMarket on my podcast the other day, and he runs one of the U.S. exchanges.
00:31:20.000They're actually based in Santa Monica, and he didn't sound phased at all.
00:31:23.000He told me, this is a couple hours before Mt.
00:31:25.000Gox actually came out as being insolvent.
00:31:27.000He told me on the podcast, I think they're insolvent, and I think they need to disappear as soon as possible.
00:31:31.000Not disappear as then run away, but just like disappear from the Bitcoin ecosystem so that more credible companies like us can step in and do this shit in a way that's legal and regulated and actually backed by real investors.
00:31:43.000And he didn't sound concerned about it.
00:31:45.000He's kind of like, well, yeah, our shitty competition is going out of business and now we can take over.
00:31:51.000I wish I knew enough to know whether or not he's correct.
00:31:56.000I think as long as people continue to watch porn and pay webcam girls with Bitcoins, as long as people continue to like online gambling, as long as you have libertarians who want to stash away some of their money in case there's some kind of financial apocalypse, as long as you have those three things, there's always going to be Bitcoin demand.
00:32:38.000The online lack of online gambling is what crushed the International Pool League.
00:32:44.000They had this Kevin Trudeau, you know, that scam artist, that guy, those secrets that they don't want you to know about.
00:32:50.000Which is why I'm putting in a book for everybody to fucking read.
00:32:54.000Weight loss secrets they don't want you to know about.
00:32:56.000There's people that are hiding information.
00:32:59.000Well, that guy put together this huge, multiple million dollar professional pool league, and he was going to market it based on the idea that you could gamble on the matches online.
00:33:11.000And right when it was coming out, right when they invested all the money, they changed the laws.
00:33:17.000And it was just to force out all the online gambling.
00:33:20.000All the online casinos and online, you know, all that Bowdog.com, all those different places.
00:33:43.000The idea that they can somehow or another prevent people from gambling.
00:33:47.000But you don't prevent them from gambling in Vegas.
00:33:49.000You don't prevent them in Atlantic City.
00:33:51.000You don't prevent them in Indian casinos.
00:33:52.000You don't prevent them in card casinos.
00:33:54.000It's just like they've decided arbitrarily to keep people from doing it online because it hurts those casinos or it hurts whatever, whoever it is that it hurts.
00:34:03.000They've decided to allow them to prohibit business.
00:34:07.000They've allowed them to halt competition and halt innovation.
00:34:11.000Because by eliminating online gambling, you're not just eliminating online gambling.
00:34:16.000You're eliminating a lot of different financial transactions.
00:34:19.000You're eliminating a lot of wagering that is done through credit cards.
00:34:23.000You're eliminating all sorts of different things.
00:34:44.000Everything from the construction of buildings these people are going to use to the employees, the financial careers that people could have in online gambling, running websites, legit businesses, where you're providing a legit service.
00:34:57.000But somehow or another, this county government got away with stopping all that shit.
00:35:03.000But if you could use Bitcoin, if that's a legal loophole, and you could use Bitcoin to gamble on things, God damn, like sports, if you could gamble on the fucking Super Bowl, Major League Baseball, NBA, UFC, boxing, golf, if you could gamble on all that shit.
00:35:24.000Fuck yeah, it would be worth billions.
00:35:25.000Not only would it be worth billions, if people found out that you could actually buy shit with this Bitcoin, they would start investing chunks of their portfolio in Bitcoins.
00:35:33.000People would say, hey, you know, I want 10% of my finances in Bitcoin because I like to gamble.
00:35:38.000Well, I think the whole porn thing is going to be huge where a lot of guys want to tip the girls that they watch on the live cam sites.
00:35:46.000But they don't because they don't want their credit card linked to the site because then their wife will see it and it'll be a whole shitstorm.
00:36:19.000And for folks who don't know, technology, porn opens up the door to technology all the time.
00:36:25.000I mean, online video, online statistics, all that stuff came from adult stuff.
00:36:29.000Well, when Apple cut Flash out, when Apple stopped Flash on the iPads and on their laptops and on their phones, when they did that, what is the other?
00:37:32.000And I understand like you got to respect somebody's culture, but you also have to respect the fact that a lot of these people living in these societies probably don't want to live that way.
00:37:58.000I really, if I don't know what God wrote or what he didn't wrote, but I highly doubt if he's the way you're describing him, this awesome, amazing guy, I highly doubt he gives a fuck what kind of clothes you wear.
00:38:11.000I mean, I'm not thinking for God or anything, but I just highly doubt.
00:38:15.000So what you're dealing with, most likely, I'm not saying definitely, but most likely, is some bullshit written by people, and it's poisoned your culture.
00:38:23.000Absolutely poisoned the very foundations of your culture and won't allow any progress.
00:40:19.000So you can't even just dress normally in a coffee shop without getting the same kind of attention that over here an A-list actress would get.
00:42:39.000And you are experiencing it in extreme form because you're sort of a public figure and you're a journalist and you're controversial and you cover a lot of very fascinating subjects.
00:42:50.000So you're going to get a lot more than the average person who has this set up like that.
00:43:36.000It was just, my inbox filled up in five seconds.
00:43:40.000And then the texts that were coming, it's just, I tweeted something yesterday that somebody sent me that I was talking about how I felt when my child was born that I was thinking about how crazy it must be how many different babies are being born right now.
00:43:56.000If you could see them all in real time in front of you, like on a giant screen, it would be like a baby invasion.
00:44:02.000I mean, you don't think about it because you're only in that hospital room while that one's being born.
00:44:06.000Well, somebody sent me a tweet, and in that tweet is a link that shows in real time every baby being born all around the world.
00:46:22.000What if one day we went on that thing and it was a day where there was no babies?
00:46:26.000That movie with Clive Owen, Children of Men.
00:46:29.000Yeah, when people stopped being fertile or something fucking stupid.
00:46:33.000You know, well, that is the people that are not dooming gloomers about overpopulation.
00:46:38.000Their idea is that as time goes on, what's going to happen is the cultures, like third world cultures that are like really having massive amounts of children, childbirths, those are going to become more developed.
00:46:53.000And as they become more developed, we're actually going to have a decreasing population.
00:46:58.000They obviously don't have this website on bookmark because if they did, they would see the fucking invasion in real time.
00:47:04.000And oh my God, how are we going to have enough oil?
00:47:08.000Well, there's a theory that the more people you have in an area, the more kind of like intelligent productivity you have.
00:47:14.000So higher population doesn't lead to the Malthusian meltdown where people starve and kill each other to get back into a lower population realm.
00:47:24.000Instead, it's the high population itself that's what is leading to innovation.
00:47:29.000And somewhere along that innovation can keep up with the higher population.
00:48:24.000It's a 10-seat room in a Tokyo subway station.
00:48:27.000It's booked out for like months, right?
00:48:29.000Booked out for months, and it's the best sushi in the world, apparently.
00:48:32.000And the guy, I mean, his son's 50 years old, and his son goes to the fish market every day and buys from the same guy who's like literally got a flashlight on the tuna and touching it with his fingers.
00:48:44.000And he has to make sure he has a feel for the texture.
00:48:47.000And the texture will directly contribute or directly correlate with great flavor.
00:48:52.000Like he knows what texture is the right one.
00:48:54.000Then they know like how to age the tuna and how long for an old tuna, how long for a young tuna.
00:51:17.000To make it relative to someone, I had a conversation with a friend who is very pro-business and very pro-nuclear power and the benefits of nuclear power.
00:51:27.000And he's talking about these few places where the issues have arisen.
00:51:31.000And I said, well, okay, I just want you to think about the amount of time that nuclear power has been here.
00:51:36.000Now think about the amount of nuclear power plants that exist.
00:51:40.000Now think about how many of the men have had catastrophic failures.
00:52:56.000But they kind of assumed upon construction that with innovation and with progress, in the future there was going to be able to be a way to correct all these issues.
00:53:30.000It's like you look at what people are willing to accept and not willing to accept just in the name of having fuel, just in the name of progress, just in the name of financial reward.
00:53:43.000And it's kind of scary how flippant people are about polluting the ocean, about polluting the BP oil scale.
00:53:50.000I had Peter Schiff on, and we were talking about the BP thing, and he was talking about...
00:53:57.000He kind of gets under my skin because a lot of the limited government stuff I can latch onto and agree with.
00:54:04.000But then there's something, I don't know how to describe it.
00:54:06.000It's like there's not a certain humanism there that you need to have.
00:54:14.000If you want to get the best water or the best soda or the best weed, it's probably a good idea to get free markets working there so you have competition.
00:54:22.000It doesn't have to be for every single facet of life.
00:54:26.000Well, the real issue with him is environmental.
00:54:29.000His willingness to, you know, the fracking thing, like his concern about fracking was so, it was really funny, like talking to him about people that have had their land just destroyed forever.
00:54:42.000And he was saying, well, they got millions of dollars.
00:54:44.000Those people, they got money they would have never been able to get.
00:54:50.000Like the money is all, it's all relative.
00:54:53.000Like, what's a million dollars to Peter Schiff?
00:54:55.000It's probably not nearly as much as it is to those people.
00:54:58.000So for Peter Schiff, a million dollars or whatever the fuck these people, that's worth it to destroy a piece of property, essentially for as long as people have ever been around.
00:55:08.000What was weird about that too is I think you asked him about the environmental impact and he said there's nothing wrong with fracking.
00:55:13.000There's no environmental impact and we know that's not true.
00:55:19.000There's over a thousand documented wells that have been polluted from fracking.
00:55:24.000You know, the idea is that if fracturing works exactly according to plan, it's so deep in the ground that you're not going to disturb wells.
00:55:32.000But it doesn't work according to plan.
00:55:39.000And I've had a lot of people Google me like, you need to get up to date with your research, like really right-wingy type people who are pro-business, who, by the way, almost always financially struggling, but are clearing the way for the one day when in the future they have money.
00:57:29.000Citizens of Bartonville described as a wealthy community, which you'd expect that, giving the houses of the chief of Enron, have sued to stop the tower.
00:57:40.000The tower is being built by Cross Timbers Water Supply.
00:57:45.000It would be a 15-story building adjacent to Tillerson's 83-acre horse ranch, not far from an 18-acre homestead.
00:57:55.000Among the others who oppose the project are people not exactly known for their environmental concerns.
00:58:01.000Former U.S. House Majority Leader Dick Amney and his wife, for example.
00:58:05.000All these fucking rich cunts they're putting in their neighborhood and they don't want it.
00:58:09.000Oh, you guys are fine when it was in Baltimore.
00:58:11.000All right, you guys were fine when it was in the middle of Pennsylvania, shitting into a river that people like to fish in.
01:00:13.000Anybody who thinks that's totally okay, I would recommend the prescription of yoga, meditation, weed brownies, as long as it's permissible by law.
01:00:53.000It's scary to me that I went that long without using that stuff.
01:00:57.000Well, the reason for a lot of the people that have these negative opinions on marijuana brownies or pot cookies is that most of the times they're used recreationally.
01:01:08.000Most of the times people are using them just sort of to have fun with them.
01:01:11.000They're already drunk, and then they associate being hungover and like making bad decisions with the marijuana has nothing to do with that.
01:02:06.000And that's part of the reason why it's not harmful, why nobody ever ODs on marijuana, is that we've had time to adapt to it and it's adapted to us.
01:02:13.000And we have this symbiotic relationship where it's making us more introspective and we're able to innovate as a result.
01:02:21.000And because of that, we tend to grow more marijuana, which keeps it alive and keeps it thriving.
01:02:25.000So it's like this thing, like a coral reef almost.
01:02:29.000And then we come along with modern society, we make all this shit illegal just for the sake of it.
01:02:34.000And we do away with things that people have had as basic tools for most of human history.
01:02:39.000You think about it, like this shit has only been illegal for what, like 70 years?
01:04:20.000I have a friend who actually is a manager at one of the dispensaries out there in Denver.
01:04:26.000And she was telling me when one of their dispensaries moves into a neighborhood, all the people stop going to their dealer and they just come into the store and that's their new place, obviously, because they want to do something that's less risky.
01:04:38.000You've just fucked all those dealers out of their money.
01:04:52.000You know, that's another beautiful thing about it.
01:04:54.000You don't have to worry about the cops coming to your house and breaking in your front door because you've got a plant somewhere in your closet.
01:05:00.000You don't have to worry about that anymore.
01:05:13.000So if you're somebody who doesn't like it or it makes you paranoid when you do it, or you just have a conservative upbringing, it's not something where you're constantly confronted by it.
01:05:44.000And nobody leaves the dispensary looking unhappy.
01:05:47.000Like, people always leave liquor stores looking all bummed out.
01:05:50.000People leave dispensaries looking the same way they leave when they nut in their pants, when they go and get a lap dance.
01:05:55.000Like, oh boy, I can't believe I got away with that.
01:05:59.000They get in their car and they drive away like some kind of a criminal.
01:06:05.000I think, you know, people just have this attitude that, you know, having a dispensary is somehow or another different than having a liquor store.
01:07:18.000You know, that's one of the great things about being a journalist is when you get to the point where you just realize you can say, I don't know to things, and that's the best way to do it.
01:07:26.000You don't have to draw on what little you know.
01:07:43.000How has this not been asked a thousand times over in like Reddit Trees?
01:07:47.000It's an interesting thing because a lot of these stores, that green plus sign has become so universal that's all it has on the sign.
01:07:54.000They'll have a green plus sign and then they'll say like W, you know, whatever, you know, West Valley Caregivers was one of them.
01:08:01.000So it was W V C G. That's all it said.
01:08:05.000And then you get near, it's West Valley Caregivers, like, what the fuck are you actually selling?
01:08:08.000And you get in there, and it's just tanks of weed.
01:08:11.000You're like, oh, I see what you're doing.
01:08:14.000Unfortunately, that place that I used to go to, my favorite spot, the government told them that they had to close down because they had opened up too late, like after a certain amount of time.
01:08:25.000They weren't approved or something like that.
01:08:26.000And the dude was like, he was very nervous about it because they had gotten shut down once or something else.
01:08:31.000And the guy who owned it previously wound up going to jail.
01:08:37.000He was one of the few people that got popped.
01:08:41.000But I know one of the guys who got popped and wound up doing time.
01:08:44.000And then there's some guys in San Francisco, those guys, Pot University guys, whatever the fuck they are, Cannabis University, those guys are still duking it out in court.
01:09:07.000I mean, look, there's plenty of weed, and it's way easier to get, and it's way more relaxed, but it's still sketchy federally.
01:09:17.000And if someone comes in after Obama, which is very likely, that is more repressive, because this Obama thing has been a goddamn mess.
01:09:26.000I mean, what he's done and what we thought he was going to do are so polar opposite.
01:09:33.000You know, they didn't stop the DEA from raiding these medical marijuana facilities.
01:09:36.000There was a lot of raids during his time.
01:09:38.000If you want to go and look at how many raids took place during Obama's time, it's been quite substantial.
01:09:43.000The blowback from that has also been substantial, and it's very damaging to his party because he's essentially a Republican in wolf's clothing.
01:09:51.000I mean, a lot of the shit that they've done outside of social things have been like, you know, really, really similar to what the Bush administration did.
01:09:58.000There's been a lot of really negative shit that's happened with the DEA breaking into these pot stores, putting fucking boots on kids' necks and taking.
01:10:07.000Like, there was one that they did where they got caught doing all this because all the film was sent remotely to another location, like constantly.
01:10:14.000It was kind of sent so no one could steal the hard drives.
01:10:16.000The security cameras were still recording.
01:10:19.000So you got to see them put their boots on this kid's neck, throw him to the ground.
01:10:43.000And you got your boot on his neck all the time.
01:10:45.000These are people who are trying to relax.
01:10:46.000People are trying to find more healthy outlets for their anxiety or their uncertainty.
01:10:52.000So the point is, there's probably going to be someone could easily bribe a politician to go hard on these things with the new administration in office.
01:11:02.000If there was a big push by the pharmaceutical industry, it was a big push by the alcohol industry, big push by whatever prison guards, unions, whoever it needs to be that can grease the wheels to get them to be harder on marijuana.
01:13:34.000My thinking was that they're kind of like, oh, you can use the medical benefits as long as you don't get high from it.
01:13:39.000And I think that this is totally just my own perspective.
01:13:43.000I really think that part of the medicinal property of marijuana is that it allows you to see things differently.
01:13:48.000And I think there's much more of a connection between the mental and the physical than we're willing to accept in our Western society.
01:13:53.000And I feel like most humans up until about 100 years ago took most of what I'm saying for granted.
01:13:58.000Like, you remember reading books, like novels in the 1800s where somebody's sick and their doctor says, go live somewhere, like, go live in the countryside, you'll feel better.
01:14:14.000And we've totally like, we try to be so clinical with everything that we can't let somebody just get high and fucked up for a few hours and figure out their own shit.
01:14:23.000You know, you can't actually feel something that's an altered state of consciousness.
01:14:26.000Although I agree with you on that, I think the scientific principle or the scientific reasoning behind extracting CBDs is just so that people who have injuries can have pain medication that's natural and have it while they're at work.
01:17:21.000It seems to me like they pretty much just want lower taxes.
01:17:24.000Because if you really believed in limited government, how the fuck can the government tell you that you can't put something that's first of all safe into your own body, in the comfort and safety of your own fucking home when you're an American citizen and supposedly live in a free society?
01:17:37.000You should be able to do that in some way.
01:17:38.000Do I think it should be taxed and regulated?
01:17:53.000You know, you're just isolating one anecdotal fucking thing.
01:17:56.000And that's not, I can make an argument against alcohol based on Some guy outside who's drunk in front of a liquor store, that doesn't mean you shouldn't go out drinking with your friends.
01:18:48.000The idea that alcohol is more, you know, that you could easily underdose with alcohol and just have a warm feeling, but you can't do that with marijuana.
01:19:01.000And it's so ignorant to human physiology.
01:19:04.000It's so ignorant to all the different things that we use on a daily basis, where if you overuse them, they would fucking kill you.
01:19:12.000I mean, there's a huge amount of medications that people take on a daily basis, where if they took 20 times more than they were supposed to take, they're dead.
01:19:20.000You know, salt, 10 ounces of salt, you're a dead person.
01:19:57.000It's like, I'm going to speed myself up so I can slow myself down so I can relax.
01:20:00.000Well, he speeds himself up, then apparently you get a little freaked out from that, so he needs something to relax, and that's where the Xanax comes in, but then he can't go to bed at night, so he needs the Ambien.
01:20:11.000I totally do that with coffee and alcohol, though.
01:20:13.000Because what happens is you have like a meeting at 6 p.m., so you get all caffeinated, and then it's 6.45 and you're in your apartment, you're like, fuck, I need to chill out.
01:20:20.000So you start drinking because you're so amped from the caffeine.
01:20:23.000Well, I used to have a buddy that had a crack habit, and I used to go with him and go to the liquor store when he was fucked up and he wanted to calm down.
01:20:33.000He would go to the liquor store and he would buy a 40-ounce just to bring his heart rate down.
01:20:52.000He had a lot of drug problems, but he wound up dying because of it.
01:20:57.000But just seeing him trying to calm down by drinking, pounding this 40-ounce of beer, just trying to get the alcohol into his bloodstream to just alleviate the crazy heartbeat that he had going on.
01:21:10.000That's where the DEA and stuff like that is fucking up also, is that they've betrayed the trust of young people by lying to them about marijuana.
01:21:17.000So as a result, there are probably people out there who are like, well, maybe meth's not that bad.
01:21:21.000Maybe crack cocaine is not that bad because they completely lied to us on marijuana.
01:22:29.000If they said that, if they're honest about that, they're like, look, you shouldn't do this one because it's going to lower your motivation.
01:22:33.000At least stay away from it until you get into college or until you get a job or whatever it is that you need to get.
01:22:38.000You should avoid it if you want to be as motivated as possible.
01:22:41.000If they said that, then I'd be like, okay, then I'll listen to you when it comes to stay away from the crack cocaine because it'll fuck up your life, which it will.
01:22:50.000Well, it also fucks up the relationship that people have to law enforcement.
01:22:54.000It fucks up the relationship that people have to people in positions of authority that you legitimately need to protect you in a civilized society.
01:23:04.000Being a cop should be an honorable position that's very difficult to acquire.
01:23:08.000It should be something that we really respect and we love and appreciate the people that are around us that are there to help us if some shit goes wrong, if some bad people are around, if some people are victimizing other people, if some people are breaking the law.
01:23:23.000But when they become a DEA person and they're shooting someone's fucking dog because they got a plant growing in their house, I mean, how many of those goddamn videos you have to see before you realize there's a problem with the fact that these cops think they could just break into someone's house and shoot their fucking dog for nothing?
01:23:38.000They shoot dogs that are behind dog gates barking, little tiny dogs.
01:23:56.000If cops didn't have to deal with these laws, if there wasn't laws that were unjust on the books, then this sort of behavior would never take place.
01:24:04.000If you couldn't do that to someone, if you couldn't break down someone's door and fucking shoot their dog, if you could only go and arrest people who are committing crimes, our whole attitude, crimes that victimize people, our whole attitude about law enforcement would change.
01:24:24.000It would become an integral part of our society that's absolutely necessary, except for the people that are fucking committing the crime, Which we don't want in the first place.
01:24:43.000If you decided to go get a bolt cutter from fucking Home Depot, take it home, and hack off one of your fingers, no one can fucking stop you.
01:24:51.000You go to the hospital and they say, what happened?
01:24:52.000Oh, I cut my finger off of the bolt cutter.
01:25:30.000And that's where we have to make a distinction.
01:25:32.000And the reason why, or one of the reasons why that distinction is very difficult to make, is because there's people that have made these laws and enforcing these laws a business.
01:25:41.000There's a business not just in keeping prison guards in work, but keeping prisons filled and making sure that prisons generate income from bringing in prisoners.
01:25:53.000So they make sure that laws are in place that absolutely ensure that they're going to have new people in there every year because people are going to keep breaking these laws because they're laws that are ridiculous.
01:26:03.000They're laws that have been in place since the beginning of time.
01:26:05.000And those laws, they're about 30% of the people that are in prison.
01:26:12.000Do you think that these laws, these anti-psychedelic and anti-marijuana laws, are actually like a form of society's immune system kind of going overboard?
01:26:22.000Like I think about how some of the most brilliant people seem to have some kind of interaction with drugs at some point in their lives, whether it be Steve Jobs with the acid trips or, you know, pretty much any musician with weed or any writer with weed.
01:26:39.000It unlocks a lot of potential that otherwise wouldn't be there for people.
01:26:43.000And it shows you the world in a different way, especially if you do something that's even stronger, like a psychedelic.
01:26:49.000It's showing you something that's almost like root access to a computer, where it gives you a lot more power.
01:26:53.000But for most people, you don't want root access.
01:26:55.000You just want them to have their, you know, their web browser, and that's it, and you don't want them fucking stuff up.
01:26:59.000I wonder if society as a whole is the kind of unconscious thing that goes on.
01:27:03.000It's like, this is really powerful stuff.
01:27:05.000So we'll allow some people to have access to it.
01:27:07.000But we can't just let the whole society go Timothy Leary, you know, tune in, tune out, whatever his thing was, because what we'll have as a result is completely uncharted waters that we haven't been to before.
01:27:18.000And there are people really afraid of that happening.
01:27:20.000Well, I think if you have to look where are these laws coming from, are the laws coming from really educated philosophers and scholars who have examined?
01:27:31.000No, no, these laws are coming from people who are doing a lot of fear-mongering.
01:27:34.000You remember all the shit that Ronald Reagan was saying back in the day?
01:27:38.000Well, it turns out that marijuana may be one of the most damaging drugs known to Maine.
01:28:20.000at Piers Morgan's body language he's like this fucking awful person that I have to interview he's awful too yeah he got fine What do you mean by that?
01:28:30.000Was when I moved to a new place in California and there was a pool and the pool guy didn't, you know, I come back and it's four feet down and it's covered with green mold and I called him up.
01:29:38.000What you're seeing, ladies and gentlemen, what you're seeing right now is a human who's screaming for a psychedelic intervention.
01:29:45.000If we could get Ann Coulter into a jungle retreat in Peru and force feed ayahuasca with one of those things they use for fagua when they stuff like a goose filled with grain to make their liver fat and delicious, if we could do that with her with ayahuasca,
01:30:02.000just pin their nose and their mouth, just pin it together, hold on to it, force it down, hold it in there, make sure her body absorbs it, and then they'll throw up and then let this bitch go on a wild ride on the feathered snake and come back.
01:31:52.000Well, you just contradicted yourself, you dummy.
01:31:54.000And do you encourage cigarette smoking on national television?
01:31:58.000What she's doing right there is just being a silly person.
01:32:01.000What she's doing right there is purposely trolling.
01:32:04.000What she's doing right there is just trying to get attention and holding on to an argument that doesn't have any basis in logical thinking.
01:32:10.000Her argument is just about her trying to get her point over.
01:32:14.000She's just a shitty example of a person who's allowed to talk.
01:33:34.000And oftentimes I get more done because of marijuana because I have more interests.
01:33:38.000It's just we have these perceptions and we have these stereotypes that have been reinforced in movies and we have these ideas and we have these ideas that are coming from a person who clearly doesn't smoke pot.
01:33:51.000Clearly she's not eating pot cookies and exploring her consciousness.
01:33:55.000I don't believe in any kind of media laws, but I almost feel like there should be a law where if you're going to talk about a subject this big, you actually have to have first-hand experience.
01:34:03.000So if you're talking about marijuana is harmful, you must have actually used it yourself more than once before you can talk about it in that manner.
01:34:10.000If you're talking about Bitcoin, you actually have to have used it at least once.
01:34:14.000If you're talking about anything, if you're talking about being unemployed, you have to have been unemployed at some point or at least interview somebody who's unemployed now and not just pontificate, which is what so many people do.
01:34:25.000I think the marijuana thing is it's also troubling the format in which they're communicating in.
01:34:32.000These goddamn formats, these television formats, are so, and I didn't realize it when I was younger, but now after four years of podcasting, I'm so aware of what the difference is and communicating like that and communicating like this.
01:34:46.000Like when you do jiu-jitsu, like say if you're really good at jiu-jitsu and you roll with someone who's just really strong, you roll with a guy who's like a really good athlete.
01:34:56.000It takes you a while to get them, but you're going to get them.
01:35:04.000But eventually they're going to get tired of doing that because they're doing it the wrong way and you're going to get them.
01:35:09.000When Ann Coulter is on a Pierce Morgan show, she could say a bunch of crazy shit because she knows the commercial's coming in seven minutes.
01:35:15.000She can start this ridiculous argument that's completely circuitous.
01:35:38.000But if you got her on a podcast for three hours, I would Brian dunning her.
01:35:42.000I would do exactly what I did to that guy.
01:35:43.000You just talk to them and allow them to express themselves until you reveal how ridiculous they are.
01:35:48.000Yeah, if she were here, she wouldn't be able to do an intellectual hit and run where you throw out like this huge character attack against weed smokers and then it's over.
01:36:04.000You're going to get tired of saying nonsense.
01:36:06.000You're going to get tired of sprinting with nonsense.
01:36:08.000And then slowly but surely, we will compile facts and slowly but surely we will present you with examples of people who use it, who are healthy, and who benefit from it.
01:36:19.000And I'll tell you my own personal story.
01:36:36.000You know, just stop and think about all the comedians we know that smoke weed, that fucking constantly travel across the country, that constantly writing and performing.
01:36:48.000And if that's the type of discourse that you pursue, if that's what you're trying to do, if that's what you're trying, that's a lazy way of being a human being.
01:36:56.000That's a lazy way of operating an incredibly complex neural system.
01:37:00.000That's a lazy way of being a functioning human being who is given this incredible position of communicating with the world.
01:37:07.000Because you have responsibilities when you're communicating with the world.
01:37:10.000And one of those responsibilities is to express yourself to the best of your abilities, to look at life through the...
01:39:36.000Well, they could be a variety of different compounds.
01:39:38.000That's true, just a media term for this boogeyman drug.
01:39:41.000Well, what these boogeyman drugs are is you take an illegal drug, you alter it so that it's no longer illegal, but it still has ridiculous effects on the human body, and then you sell it as not for human consumption.
01:41:32.000It's unfortunate for people that listen and don't realize how ridiculous her opinions really are when you look at the actual facts themselves.
01:43:57.000But it's our job as human beings to have a balanced approach.
01:44:02.000And here's what's not good: suppressing and making something illegal that's beneficial to millions of people.
01:44:09.000And if there's any lesson to be learned from prohibition, it's the rise of organized crime.
01:44:14.000Because when you turn regular people into criminals, the criminals are going to provide those regular people with drugs, and it's going to be untaxed, unregulated.
01:44:24.000And then they just corrupt the officials, and the whole thing becomes its own little environment, and it gets entrenched.
01:44:44.000I feel bad for anybody that's in that position because that's such an for a person who has experienced life through as much of an objective lens as you can, and you see a person like that, that's not a person who's at their best.
01:44:59.000That's not a person who has done a lot of soul searching and a lot of thinking and has come to this really peaceful, loving conclusion.
01:45:14.000When you were talking about how we lived in a fucked up world and people do crazy stuff and things are mixed, I wrote this article the other day that a lot of my readers didn't like, but I think it's one of the better things I've ever written.
01:45:26.000And it's where I take this angle where I'm like, what if President Obama is right about most of this stuff?
01:45:31.000He's doing a lot of stuff that is arguably not constitutional.
01:45:35.000However, there are 7 billion people on the planet.
01:45:38.000A lot of them are driven by hateful ideology in certain parts of the world.
01:45:42.000And in a nuclear age, it only takes one of them.
01:45:50.000I guess going from anculture to 9-11 is natural, but I can start to see the other side of the whole argument.
01:45:56.000And I think you have to be able to do that if you're doing the kind of work that I do, is I have to see where people like General Keith Alexander are coming from, which is the argument that we can't, sorry that we're looking for your text messages.
01:46:09.000But we're not going to allow another 9-11 to happen because we don't want to have 3,000 innocent people die and have the economy crash and have total chaos for the next five years.
01:46:18.000And so I can see things in that light.
01:46:19.000And I wrote this article coming from that place of, you know, he's kept us safe.
01:46:23.000And I realize that's a total Bush era argument.
01:46:26.000And it's the kind of thing that I normally despise.
01:46:28.000But you have to be willing to explore that and explore the fact that it's the year 2014 now.
01:46:34.000He's been in office since January 2009.
01:46:37.000And you have these fearmongers and the alternative media, people who I don't want to diss because I do their shows and they do mine.
01:46:44.000But, you know, people like Alex Jones, basically, where it's fucking 2014.
01:46:49.000Like, if what you're saying is true, why are you not in a gulag somewhere?
01:46:51.000Why aren't you in a fucking dungeon tower being tortured by Homeland Security?
01:46:56.000Well, for one thing, he's easily dismissed because he's so crazy.
01:46:59.000I mean, you could pull up a million videos of him screaming and ranting and raving, and you just dismiss him right away.
01:47:04.000But my point, though, is like Obama is not the boogeyman that he's been made out to be.
01:47:08.000I think that what he is, is somebody who's trying to do the best they can within an extremely fucked up and flawed and pieced together system that is dealing with like 15 different entities at once.
01:47:19.000You know, like whenever the DEA breaks in somebody's door, that's not because Obama is like sitting in the White House on his iPad and he's like, oh yeah, let's go to this guy's house, right?
01:47:28.000Like he's got other things on his mind.
01:47:30.000And yet we link all this to Obama and we should instead be trying to modernize the whole fucking system so that Obama has less to do.
01:47:36.000Well, I think there's a very good point in that.
01:47:37.000And I agree with you on looking at the other perspective.
01:47:52.000And I think you should be allowed to explore an idea.
01:47:54.000I think it's important to be able to explore an idea.
01:47:56.000And people on the left or people that are anti-war or and rightly so, they would reject that instantaneously.
01:48:05.000But I think that to get to know it, you really have to explore it.
01:48:08.000I think to look at the holes in the argument, even to look at it from an offensive point of view, you have to explore it and look at it from their point of view to understand them.
01:48:19.000I think that I would agree with you in a lot of ways that Obama has one of the most thankless jobs ever.
01:48:26.000And it's an unbelievably fucked up situation to try to deal with.
01:48:50.000I wrote down don't go negative, but there's a new NSA Snowden document that the NSA and the GCHQ, which is the British version of it, I guess the British government's NSA pretty much.
01:49:03.000They have this whole procedural thing for how to go after activists that they don't like and harass them using troll identities.
01:49:10.000Like literally, there are slideshows showing how NSA agents troll people they don't like online and destroy their credibility and reputations.
01:49:18.000And this is shit that even a week ago to say this would be like kind of out there.
01:49:22.000Because sure, like maybe governments troll people, but you can't say with authority like the U.S. government and the British government are trolling people they don't like.
01:49:29.000Now we know that this is a fact and that's something that needs to be reined in because that's not because we're paying for this craziness.
01:49:37.000We're paying for some anti-social sociopaths to get a paycheck every two weeks from the federal government to fucking do crazy stuff on the internet.
01:50:01.000And it only works if you pay attention.
01:50:03.000But you know, if there's enough people working for the government that are trying to discredit you, I'm sure they could put a good dent in public perception of you.
01:50:15.000You're supposed to being a government is like one of the things, it's sort of in a lot of ways like what you shouldn't do when you argue with trolls online.
01:50:24.000Like you shouldn't do that because, you know, you just got to accept the fact that you're in an unusual position.
01:50:29.000Well, the government's in an unusual position, too.
01:50:33.000He was basically getting trolled by Snowden for a little while.
01:50:36.000Like I was watching this, and I was like, it's absolutely ridiculous for a U.S. president to be lowering himself to the level of a 29-year-old freelance contractor for some defense company.
01:50:46.000How was he in what way was he getting trolled by Obama?
01:50:49.000By addressing the issue and making it seem like Snowden's the problem.
01:50:52.000What it should have been is immediately, the second this shit came out, if I were one of Obama's advisors, I would suggest just be honest with you.
01:51:00.000Be like, it looks like some stuff went overboard.
01:51:03.000There were some things that should not have been occurring.
01:51:44.000I mean, if you look at what is law, what is law in this country?
01:51:48.000Well, there are laws and there are precedents that have been set.
01:51:51.000Way back to when the founding fathers had no idea we're ever going to have a fucking internet, they had certain laws that were in place in order to make sure that people's rights are protected and that the government doesn't get out of hand, that law enforcement doesn't get out of hand because people who have ultimate power, it corrupts them.
01:52:25.000They passed things like the Patriot Act.
01:52:26.000They passed all these things to make laws that are in place to protect people's rights invalid, make the Fourth Amendment invalid.
01:52:33.000And so then they feel justified by doing what is essentially a crime.
01:52:38.000Well, a guy comes out and says, hey, a crime is being committed on 300 million people in this country and multiple millions worldwide by a group of Americans who didn't get a license to do this by any voting, by any court of public opinion.
01:53:09.000So what Snowden did was calling him a traitor is one of the most disgusting labels you could ever label a guy who took his own life and sacrificed his safety and his security in order to enlighten millions of people that a crime is going on.
01:53:26.000I mean, he's a modern Paul Revere times a million.
01:54:23.000Yeah, the U.S. government would be singing his praises every day.
01:54:26.000It's kind of creepy when you realize that that does happen.
01:54:28.000They do steal like scientists and they steal like a- The U.S. is one of the major superpowers, and we're in this dystopian novel right now where everybody's spying on everybody else.
01:55:18.000You got to see some of these because it's so like, it's just the combination of evil and mundaness that is just weird, you know, because it's people making these things and people making these policies.
01:55:29.000And it's just incredibly vicious stuff.
01:56:47.000But he's not there because of what he did by leaking all that information.
01:56:52.000In fact, that's not really a crime that you could get a guy on.
01:56:56.000I mean, it's just, it's not the same kind of crime.
01:56:58.000The reason why they've Got him held hostage is because they say that he had secret or surprise sex with a woman, which means he had sex with her while they were wearing a condom.
01:57:09.000She agreed to it, and then while they're in bed afterwards, I guess they're both naked and he stuck it in without a condom.
01:58:33.000That after all these years of human civilization, all these years since the printing press, all these years since newspapers, all these years since television, now all these years of the internet, it's still that transparent.
01:58:46.000I got to tell you, though, like, I've been thinking lately about seeing those images from Ukraine of all these people bloody.
01:58:53.000And they went total, like completely off the civilization map, just chaos, burning stuff, brother against brother, like really dark shit over there.
01:59:03.000And they threw out their president, I believe.
01:59:09.000But it makes me wonder, like, maybe some of this stuff that we sense as being really oppressive is necessary for society to just hold together.
01:59:18.000Like, if we didn't have the occasional situation where the government comes down hard on somebody, that things would just slowly disintegrate and we would get to a place where you walk into FedEx and nobody wants to check you out because there's not enough of this kind of cohesive societal thing.
01:59:35.000Well, that's like sort of the thinking that there has to be a yin and a yang.
01:59:40.000There has to be suppression and this desire to escape suppression in order to create momentum and energy.
01:59:46.000In order to enthusiastically encourage innovation, you have to be fighting against something.
01:59:52.000You have to be battling against something.
01:59:54.000Yeah, it's almost like to discover freedom, you have to face a little bit of oppression.
01:59:58.000Yeah, there's a lot of thinking behind that, that that's sort of the way the universe works, and that there's hunters and then there's prey.
02:00:04.000You know, there's lions and then there's gazelles, and that this is just sort of the way the world works.
02:00:09.000In order for the gazelles to stay alive and keep breeding, they have to realize there's a lion coming after them.
02:00:14.000Because if there was, you know, gazelles could just hang out and live in one spot, they'd probably eat themselves silly.
02:00:19.000They'd fuck so much there'd be too many of them.
02:00:33.000Well, that's what I'm starting to think is I'm kind of evolving my views on this stuff because I think that government serves as a kind of immune system against shit like what happened in Ukraine and what's happening in parts of South America now where people are just losing it and you can't let that happen.
02:00:50.000You just can't, you know, because the results, you don't know where it ends.
02:00:52.000And it seems like at least the example with Egypt, it ends in a bad place.
02:00:56.000You go from something that really sucks to something that's unimaginably worse and even more oppressive because you can only go from oppression to chaos to more oppression.
02:01:05.000What the United States did with our founding and the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, these are very rare things that don't happen all that often.
02:01:12.000But it's interesting that we don't realize, we didn't observe and learn from what did we try to escape and what did we pull off in trying to escape.
02:01:22.000But what we pulled off is the greatest startup civilization the world has ever known.
02:01:27.000I mean, without a doubt, there's never been a time in human history where within 300 years less of a country being formed has become the dominant superpower on earth.
02:01:39.000Not just in a Roman sort of a way, not in a Genghis Khan sort of a way, but in a truly global way.
02:01:45.000And now, we find out is spying on everybody as well.
02:01:49.000Has missiles all over the world, sending drones into places we're not supposed to invade.
02:01:53.000So we send flying robots to do our dirty work for us.
02:01:57.000I mean, it's the most insane dictatorship or the most insane government, rather, I shouldn't say dictatorship, but it kind of is.
02:02:05.000If you look at the rest of the world, they would think us as dictators dominating them.
02:02:11.000It's really the, you know, you read about this shit, the Pox Americana and all that stuff.
02:02:15.000Like, we've imposed a worldwide peace.
02:02:18.000I realize I'm using the word peace, even though there are people dying in certain areas, but it's essentially peace through force, and we've established that.
02:02:24.000And I don't want to say that that's all bad because I think it's provided a lot of stability and a lot of innovation for millions of people.
02:02:33.000Nothing is all bad, but it's a lot of bad.
02:02:36.000But what I was going to say is that what we have become in this most insane empire ever, it's all born out of trying to escape suppression.
02:02:46.000And we tried to establish these parameters that would avoid suppression in this place.
02:02:51.000And those parameters allowed people to be free to do a lot of things they weren't able to do in other countries.
02:02:57.000Free to set up homesteads and build houses and fucking farm and make cities that just don't exist anywhere in the fucking world.
02:03:07.000Why did New York City arise in America?
02:03:09.000Because there wasn't another fucking country like us when New York City was first formed.
02:04:06.000It is kind of funny that we've, in some ways, become what we run from.
02:04:10.000It's like that Greek myth where the king is given the prophecy that his son one day will grow up to kill him.
02:04:17.000And so he exiles his son to some like distant land.
02:04:20.000And in so doing, he eventually assures his own death because they're in a battle or something and the son kills his father, not realizing that it's his father.
02:04:28.000And if he had actually just lived in the kingdom for his whole life, he, of course, would not kill his own dad.
02:04:33.000But it was that very action of trying to prevent his fate that made it occur.
02:04:41.000Being afraid of people, so you create an enemy and then you create someone that you should be afraid of.
02:04:46.000And now we're droning people and creating new enemies.
02:04:48.000Oh, I mean, not just droning people, but the latest revelation that we're not just droning people, but we're using metadata to find out where their phones are and sending missiles to where their phones are.
02:05:00.000Especially when it's been absolutely shown that al-Qaeda and the Taliban, they switch SIM cards back and forth and move them around all the time so that people can't clock where the phone is connected.
02:05:13.000Is it connected to this Al Jazeera guy?
02:07:02.000Yeah, I'd say just to be sure, send a missile that way.
02:07:06.000I still have trouble believing that they're just killing people on the metadata because I would like to think that there's somebody within these agencies who's like, wait a second, we got to actually have some kind of probable cause here before we end somebody's life.
02:07:20.000Yeah, it would be nice to think that, but the issue is that you're dealing with people who are so accustomed to making decisions that cost people millions of lives.
02:07:27.000I mean, or, you know, over course of time, millions of lives, thousands of lives, dozens of lives, whatever it is.
02:07:34.000They're so accustomed to making those decisions.
02:07:37.000One of the things that came out of the WikiLeaks that was so disturbing was the collateral murder video where they were talking about shooting those missiles into the van and that there were children there.
02:07:56.000Wikileaks is another example where if they had just come out on day one and said, okay, this organization has surfaced some shit that is really unacceptable.
02:08:10.000This whole thing with Julian Assange and the embassy and WikiLeaks becoming this globally prominent whatever it is, like this alternative media organization, would not have happened at all if the U.S. government on day one had just said, okay, thanks for bringing this stuff to our attention.
02:08:42.000But the point I was making is, you know, saying that they wouldn't shoot missiles to where the metadata is because they're worried about innocent civilians and casualties.
02:08:52.000Well, you clearly look at that video and you could say, at least in this certain circumstance, there is a very flippant attitude about the loss of collateral lives, collateral damage.
02:09:02.000And it's children they're talking about.
02:09:03.000They shouldn't have brought their kids.
02:09:25.000They didn't choose to have those parents.
02:09:26.000They didn't choose to be led by their little tiny hands into the fucking car seat in a van where you're going to shoot with hellfire missiles because you thought a reporter was an assassin.
02:09:37.000And their attitude is, hey, we shouldn't have brought their kids.
02:09:41.000That leads me to believe that there are people out there in the world who are willing to shoot missiles to where the phone is.
02:09:48.000It's so weird that with Vietnam, they went through all this stuff, like the slow realization that we're maybe not supposed to be there and that innocent people are being killed and there's no purpose for this.
02:09:59.000Like we came To that realization with Vietnam, and it seems like a lot of the same stuff is happening now.
02:10:04.000And we're going through the same bullshit where you have to listen to people on TV tell you that you know we got to support the troops, we can't question anything.
02:10:11.000We've already been there, like that all happened in the Vietnam War, and then eventually people just fell out of that narrative and they realized it was bullshit.
02:10:17.000And now, today, it's still considered something where you can't just say that the wars are complete bullshit.
02:10:22.000Well, the best story about all this, or the most ridiculous but yet true, is that both the Vietnam War and the Afghanistan War, a big part of what's going on is they're profiting from illegal drugs.
02:10:37.000I mean, it was a big part of what was going on in Vietnam.
02:10:40.000It was a big part of the whole golden triangle.
02:10:43.000I mean, the amount of money that was moved in heroin during the Vietnam era is documented.
02:10:51.000I mean, it's documented that there were soldiers that were involved that were profiting.
02:10:54.000What was that movie with Denzel Washington where he played a famous drug dealer that went to China and he had a friend or one of his buddies was a Vietnam soldier.
02:11:09.000And it was based on a true story about how he became a big-time drug dealer.
02:11:21.000Much like what's going on in Afghanistan now, if you brought it up back then, hey, a big reason, a big motivation for the Vietnam War is a secret drug-running organization.
02:11:30.000They'd be like, get out of here, you fucking crackpot.
02:12:10.000Is it more or less valuable than the trillions of dollars in minerals they've discovered?
02:12:15.000Is it more or less valuable than the natural gas that Russia and the United States were duking it out over during the time of the Mujahideen?
02:14:36.000But I think what we were getting at earlier is really important, that the yin and the yang is almost necessary in order for things to get done.
02:14:45.000And it seems to be almost a natural part of the universe.
02:14:49.000I think this is the greatest time ever to be alive.
02:15:05.000You know, if you live in Somalia and you have to be a pirate because all the Europeans have dumped nuclear waste off your shores and killed all the fish, it's a sucky time to be alive.
02:15:13.000You're basically living in a Mad Max movie.
02:15:26.000It's a type of amphetamine that they get from plants, and they chew it.
02:15:31.000They get whacked out of their fucking mind, and they get machine guns, and they get in rowboats, and they go take over fucking oil tankers and kidnap people.
02:15:37.000It's the worst combination of things ever.
02:15:39.000It's the worst combination of things ever.
02:15:41.000And, you know, for them, it's a terrible time to be alive.
02:15:44.000But for us, here in Los Angeles, chilling, drinking fucking C2O coconut water, smoking God's greatest weed, sitting here using laptops and on a super powerful internet connection connected to a million people in the world, it's awesome.
02:16:04.000And that's part of the reason why I'm so obsessed with all the shit I talk about is that these are really cool tools that we've put out into the world.
02:16:10.000And it kind of pains me to see us fucking it up, right?
02:16:13.000Like we created the internet and it's truly amazing.
02:16:25.000People, I'm going to get this argument a million times now that I've talked about that, which is, well, aren't companies doing that aren't individuals trolling?
02:16:32.000And I'm like, it's really different when the government is using your tax dollars that you send them every year and they're using that to psychologically harass you or to harass the journalists that you listen to.
02:16:42.000It's really different from some fucking weirdo doing it or some greedy company doing it because they want to just protect their little domain.
02:16:54.000If you're saying negative things about the competition and you're making them up and you're trolling and you're trying to kill their business, you're a shithead.
02:17:03.000You know, there's a thing that's been going on with us, with one of the guys that we've had on the podcast several times, a guy named Dave Asprey, who I don't hate.
02:18:55.000In fact, Tate even went out of the way to make his MCTO to try to improve what he thought Dave was doing by selling it in glass bottles because he felt like plastic can leach.
02:19:04.000It can leach chemicals if it's in the heat.
02:19:07.000It's very conscientious the way he did it.
02:19:08.000What was not so conscientious was that he kind of copied Dave's business model.
02:19:12.000He copied Dave's claims about mycotoxins and all these different things.
02:19:17.000So then he goes and tests Dave's coffee and then tests his coffee as well.
02:19:21.000Well, Dave's coffee turns out to test positive for mycotoxins.
02:19:25.000Under threshold, below threshold of two different mycotoxins, which means you're not going to affect you.
02:19:29.000It's not going to physically affect you.
02:19:31.000But his whole claim to fame was that there's a real issue with mycotoxins in coffee.
02:19:35.000He's developed a process that eliminates them.
02:19:42.000Create a problem and then offer a solution.
02:19:44.000So I, you know, parrot his words, not doing any research, you know, and having him on the podcast.
02:19:50.000He's a very smart guy, very knowledgeable, it seems.
02:19:53.000So we repeat his words about mycotoxins and coffee.
02:19:56.000So Tate, when he does this test and finds out that Dave's stuff actually has mycotoxins and Tate's, which has gone through none of this super secret process, he's just done the standard wet processing that all high-level single-source coffee companies do.
02:20:11.000Tate, you know, he goes, well, what the fuck, man?
02:20:13.000You know, this guy's shit has some mycotoxins.
02:21:35.000So the point is, this all started, his whole downfall started because he was making false claims to try to eliminate competition.
02:21:44.000He was doing exactly what we're saying companies shouldn't do.
02:21:47.000Shouldn't shit on someone to eliminate competition.
02:21:49.000Now, if Aspy came out and said, hey, you know, I think it's kind of fucked up that Tate is basically copying my claims about mycotoxins, which, by the way, aren't true, then he would have a point.
02:21:59.000But he would say, hey, Tate's copying my lies.
02:22:01.000You know, I mean, that's basically what he would have to say.
02:22:04.000Because other than that, this is not really the case.
02:22:07.000Other than that, it's just the coffee equivalent of a root beer float, which is coffee with butter and MCT oil.
02:22:14.000Which then it turns out that wasn't even Asprey's idea.
02:22:17.000It was a guy named Rob Wolf, another guy we've had on the podcast, one of the paleo gurus.
02:22:28.000And that's one of the things that Rhonda Patrick, who was on last week, who's a PhD, she said that Asprey put some shit on his website from her scientific research with vitamin D and didn't accredit her.
02:22:39.000So there's a lot of that going on, man.
02:22:41.000A lot of people discrediting people, saying shitty things about people.
02:22:48.000Because if you're saying false claims about someone like that, if you're just randomly deciding that someone's stuff is shit, well, then they get to test your stuff too, man.
02:22:57.000And if it turns out that your whole process is bullshit, that all this unnecessary nonsense or voodoo you're doing to your process to make sure that your stuff is better than everybody else's doesn't actually work, isn't actually real, and the problem doesn't actually exist.
02:23:12.000Yeah, then you shouldn't throw stones if you're in the glass house.
02:24:42.000Well, it all came to light because there was unfair claims about someone that he thought was a competitor.
02:24:47.000I mean, and that cunty shit that the government is encouraging their employees to do to discredit people is what discredits the government when something like that gets out.
02:24:58.000That's like the perfect way of expressing what I was trying to get at earlier, this idea of you're the fucking government and you're the U.S. president.
02:25:06.000You can't lower yourself to this level where you're competing with Snowden with a back and forth.
02:25:40.000Obama, as many positive things that I can say about Obama as I grow to just learn more about the world and realize that he's not this evil dictator that InfoWars makes him out to be.
02:25:53.000With that said, he still has not come out and said, it's clear at this point that the NSA has done some stuff that is not within the bounds of our laws and we'll fix that.
02:26:02.000And that's all he'd have to do and it'd be case closed for the world.
02:26:05.000Well, you know, people would demand what does fix that mean.
02:26:08.000And most have talked about clamping down on it now.
02:26:13.000I think you're always gonna have this If I honestly believed that Obama was fixing the problem in a meaningful way, I'd be okay with it because I'm very busy and I don't want to nitpick.
02:26:23.000While I'd rather see us move forward as a country and not continue to There are some really big innovations ahead of us.
02:26:33.000I think we might go into a big economic boom in the next few years.
02:26:36.000The Bitcoin thing, even if Bitcoin goes away, something very similar to it is going to take off.
02:26:56.000And I think it's indicative of this new environment that we find ourselves in, this new environment of I mean the government back and forth is petty.
02:27:05.000It's very petty to force an airplane to the ground to search for somebody.
02:27:10.000This is the most powerful government in the world.
02:27:15.000But I think that what's going on, whether we're talking about the coffee thing or whether we're talking about the government thing or talk about virtually anything, is you can't expect to get away with business as usual because there's too much that gets exposed now because of the internet.
02:27:34.000I think that when you do evil shit and other people are aware of that evil shit and they can find out about that evil shit and put it online, you know, you got to expect that you can't keep these NSA workers silent because a lot of them are actual patriots.
02:27:50.000They might have gotten a job a long time ago out of college working for the NSA, but they didn't do it because they wanted to be a bad guy.
02:27:57.000They didn't do it because they wanted to spy on their neighbor because their neighbor might just think that the United States should get the fuck out of Afghanistan.
02:29:29.000He actually lives in LA, but I've never met him.
02:29:31.000And I was watching this video where he was like, people aren't really prepared to hear the truth about Obama, which is that he's kind of like a principal for this school known as the United States.
02:29:41.000He's just trying to hold shit together.
02:29:43.000And people don't want him to go up on the podium and say, look, you want more jobs?
02:29:46.000You've got to create some innovation because things are stagnant.
02:29:48.000Like, you've got to go out there and do it.
02:29:50.000I can't just create things out of thin air.
02:29:52.000And it's the same with national security stuff.
02:30:27.000Should we concentrate on spying on Americans?
02:30:30.000Or should we concentrate on a non-interventionist interventional foreign policy that doesn't cause people to get so fucking pissed off at us that they want to kill us?
02:30:38.000Should we concentrate on not shooting drones into apartment buildings because they have a fucking cell phone that we want to find the user of?
02:30:46.000Maybe focus on not giving easy immigration rights to fucking Saudi Arabia when all the 9-11 hijackers, I believe, are from Saudi Arabia.
02:31:41.000Granted, I know absolutely nothing about this case, but just from what little I know, it seems like that's not something that would have happened.
02:31:46.000If he had remained 100% above board, that whole investigation that was set off by the FBI would have never happened because it was that woman in Tampa, the socialite or whatever, who triggered the whole fucking unraveling thing.
02:31:59.000And once you unleash those kinds of forces, I think they just keep digging until they find something.
02:32:43.000We want these warriors that don't fuck.
02:32:45.000We want these people that are over there just shooting the heads off of people from a distance, watch their heads explode, and they don't get any pussy.
02:32:53.000They're stopping life on a regular basis, doing what there's laws against, what the Bible tells you you can't do, but the Bible, you don't have to worry about the Bible because you got a free pass from Uncle Sam.
02:33:04.000We've talked to God, and God says it's okay to kill these folks.
02:33:07.000As long as, well, what if we went into Iraq on a false premise?
02:33:17.000No one's to blame because the government is essentially like a gigantic corporation that doesn't have a real sort of like one person that you could pin it to.
02:33:25.000There's like a lot of people and whatever, whatever.
02:33:42.000You're going to hate him because, look, his marriage vows aside, of course his wife should be upset if she didn't know.
02:33:48.000Of course, you know, if he lied about it, that's kind of something to take into consideration when you factor in his character.
02:33:54.000Take it into consideration lightly when you really stop and think about how many warriors in the past have had harems and Genghis Khan fucked like every living human being in the year 1220.
02:34:07.000What are we pretending these warriors are?
02:34:09.000Are we pretending that they're, you know, some strange Barbie doll, Ken, G.I. Joe, you know, organless thing that just fights for God, glory, and country and doesn't have physical desires?
02:34:21.000I was a while ago, I had this guy, David Brin, on my podcast, and he was talking about how police and militaries and stuff have only been professional for like the last 120 years or something.
02:34:31.000Before that, they were just pretty much the enforcers for whoever owned the land.
02:34:35.000So if you were the feudal lord, you would have your own police force who would basically collect taxes and beat peasants and stuff.
02:34:41.000We've only expected police and soldiers to be professional for the past hundred years.
02:34:46.000So they're still kind of catching up because these are very old structures and you're using violence.
02:34:53.000It's always kind of boggled my mind that cops will go from a fatal, like some kind of fatal confrontation where they have to take somebody down to 15 minutes later, they're at Starbucks getting another coffee.
02:35:04.000Like that's got to be a weird fucking mind melt.
02:35:09.000And I think it may very well be that a lot of them are taking antidepressants.
02:35:14.000I know antidepressants in the military are incredibly common.
02:35:17.000It's one of the most prescribed medications for people that come back, they have PTSD, people who have issues.
02:35:23.000Antidepressants, well, you know, let's Google that because I read an article recently about antidepressants in the military.
02:35:29.000And I don't remember the exact statistics, but it was in the military.
02:35:35.000It was pretty disturbing, but it makes sense because they allow you to rationalize things in a way that you're not going to if you're not on that stuff.
02:36:52.000If every fucking corporation actually continued to grow and stayed alive for, you know, 150, 350, 1,000 years, whatever it takes, they should all have all the money in the world.
02:37:13.000So if, you know, you got to think that if the pharmaceutical companies were making untold millions of dollars in having 12% of the soldiers in Iraq and 17% in Afghanistan in 2008, I mean, that was six years ago.
02:38:01.000And that's kind of crazy that you take people and you put them in this terrible situation.
02:38:07.000You yank them out of their lives and you send them over to these.
02:38:10.000Now they've got to kill people and then they come home and their wife is sleeping with somebody else or their girlfriend has left them and then they have the PTSD crack down and can't deal with wife anymore.
02:38:21.000I know a dude who just recently shot a guy and I know he was having some PTSD issues.
02:38:28.000I don't know what the exact circumstances were.
02:39:15.000I think, you know, we're living in a strange time where a guy can make a documentary like that.
02:39:21.000You know, we're living in a strange time where you could talk about a documentary like that for hours and hours on your podcast or this podcast.
02:39:27.000It's part of the reason I love America is we can always self-correct.
02:39:31.000We're not doing this podcast in a basement somewhere worried about the fucking Syrian army storming in here and torturing us like they are.
02:39:38.000If you're in a different part of the world, the only difference is you're in a different area.
02:39:41.000You no longer have these rights, and you've got to be careful.
02:39:49.000And I think that it's not just America, it's the world.
02:39:52.000And I think the idea of a country like America, I think ultimately the goal would be to have the whole world up to the same standard that we hold ourselves to and have a global community of people that are essentially, you've got to have the same rights everywhere you go.
02:40:05.000And there's no oppressive North Korean regimes.
02:40:07.000There's no places like Syria that still hold dictators.
02:40:22.000Nobody wants to take the loss on it because it's going to be messy, and it's going to take time and money and probably going to lose some – That's our ally, and it's a real issue because it's right there.
02:40:36.000But I don't think as a modern society, we can see all this shit on the internet.
02:40:39.000We can't just let them continue to kill people.
02:40:41.000I think the other month, his girlfriend, he just wiped out all of her family or friends or some shit over some non-existent slight.
02:40:54.000And he executed his uncle, who was thinking about establishing a coup.
02:40:59.000And then he executed all of his uncle's family.
02:41:01.000He executed his uncle's sons, who were innocent, and they were 20 years old, but he knew that they would come back to get him one day, so he executed them.
02:41:15.000Use the same kind of resources against somebody like that rather than someone who's a, you know.
02:41:20.000I would be concerned with military operations because it's so close to South Korea, and I think they've publicly stated that they would launch nukes at South Korea if they were ever invaded.
02:41:28.000We're so clever, if there was some kind of resource we wanted in North Korea, we would find a diplomatic way to resolve it.
02:42:11.000I would love to be able to step back and say, hey, if they're invading a country, it's because that country is filled with fucking assholes, and those assholes are going to kill innocent people worldwide.
02:42:24.000I'm a realist when it comes to human nature, and I'm a realist when it comes to human history.
02:42:28.000If you look at the world, there's never been a time of peace ever in the entire world ever.
02:42:33.000From the time that we were shat out of the first monkey mama till, you know, fighting over a fucking deer leg or whatever the hell we were fighting over back then to today, there's never been one day on earth where no one died.
02:42:46.000There's never been one day on earth where no one dropped a rock on someone's head from the top of a cliff.
02:42:51.000There's never been one day on earth where people didn't fight to the death.
02:43:17.000But I think that there's something to that.
02:43:20.000And there's something also to something that I harp on quite often, but I think it's an important point.
02:43:26.000We like to look at all the different sort of areas of the world where there's what we call natural phenomenon or natural examples of strange behavior or observed behavior or natural cycles, whether it's weather patterns or whether it's, you know, whatever it is.
02:43:46.000We look at all these things as being very natural, except for ourselves.
02:43:49.000For whatever reason, when it comes to human beings, we decide that because we're sentient, because we have, you know, the ability to rationalize and think and communicate, we don't think what we do is natural.
02:44:00.000What we think what we do is just some, well, you know, as a society, we have to be civilized and think things through.
02:44:07.000What we might be seeing with humanity is a really complicated version of what goes on in an anthill.
02:44:13.000What we might be seeing is just some really natural behavior that's just on some next level fractal shit.
02:44:20.000It's just so uber complicated because there's so many of us and you're dealing in, you're factoring in information as well as the instincts to breed, the instincts to dominate and have food and resources.
02:44:33.000On top of all those other things, you're also dealing with communication.
02:44:37.000You're dealing with the ability to exchange information and also the ability to enhance yourself with that exchanged information and alter perspectives.
02:44:56.000Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people that change because of experiences and information and just life giving them something that forces them to examine the box that they put the world in.
02:45:09.000Life gives them something that they've sort of been forced to sort of get a new perspective.
02:45:15.000That doesn't happen in the animal world.
02:45:17.000And that's why you have to add in and factor in all these variables and look at human beings and say, it seems natural.
02:46:01.000Just talking to people like yourself, just having conversations with people and hashing things out and then seeing the reactions to these conversations that people have online where they join in.
02:46:11.000They start discussing things on Twitter, discussing things on Facebook.
02:46:14.000I've seen people, you know, have conversations in person about things that have happened on the podcast.
02:46:19.000Well, hey, you know, I found out about this and then I started researching into this and then I changed my diet because of that and then this and that and this and that.
02:46:26.000It's one of the reasons why misinformation like the Aspre thing is so frustrating and it really pisses me off because it's in the wrong spirit of this thing.
02:46:35.000It's in the wrong spirit of what we're trying to do.
02:46:37.000Yeah, you shouldn't have a scarcity mindset.
02:49:31.000So thanks to Ronald Green of CTO Coconut Water for keeping us with Coconut Water that made David Seaman piss, not once, but twice in a three-hour podcast.
02:53:13.000I'm with Tony Hinchcliffe at the Fillmore on April 3rd.
02:53:16.000And then Orlando on April 18th with Mad Flavor, aka Joe Diaz.
02:53:22.000And Joey's also with me April 25th in Baltimore.
02:53:26.000And then we'll be doing a lot of stuff, I'm sure, in and around LA in between now and then.
02:53:31.000Tomorrow, Brian Callen and Doug Duran and Steve Ranella, all the people that were involved in the Meat Eater episode, which airs Thursday night.
02:54:43.000If it's the last moment on earth, you have to say something, and it's going to be encapsulated and spread to future generations so they won't make the same mistake.