HollyMac23 is the winner of the Ting contest, and she gets an iPhone 5. I don't know if it's a girl or a boy, but she's a nice person and she's got a man in her picture, so who better be the one to announce the winner? Also, I talk about how cell phone service companies like Ting are going to kill the cell phone industry, and why they're going to be the future of cell phone companies. Joe also talks about how much money you should save by using Ting, and how to save $25 by using the promo code "ROGANEXPERIENCE" to get 10% off any new cell phone purchase with the code ROGANEVERYTHING at checkout. That's $25 off a new iPhone 5, an iPad, an Android phone, or any other Android device you want! Use the code JCOMEYRJRJANEX at checkout to save 10% on all of the items mentioned in this episode. And as always, thank you for listening to Joe Rogan s ramble on and on about life, and have a great rest of your day! XOXO, Timestamps: 1:00 - What's your favorite thing you're eating? 2:30 - How much money would you be saving with Ting? 3:15 - What s your favorite cell phone company? 4: How much do you save on cell service? 5: What do you pay for your phone? 6: What kind of phone company do you use? 7: What are you using? 8: How often do you get the most of your time? 9:20 - Is it worth it? 11: What is your favorite piece of equipment? 13:00 14:40 - How often does your phone bill? 15:00 What is a good deal? 16:00 Do you like your iPhone 5? 17:00 How much does it cost you? 18:00 Is it a girl? 19:00 Can I get an iPhone? 21:30 22:15 23:40 25: What would you like to be a woman? 26:30 What do I would I like to see me buy a new one? 27:00 30:00 27:10 28:20 29:00 My thoughts on the future?
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00:04:00.000What we're trying to sell you on it is all the things that I use, all the things that my partner Aubrey uses, whether it's things like battle ropes or steel maces, ab wheels, just the best strength and conditioning equipment, the best supplements,
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00:08:12.000Now, you know, sanctioning bodies, the sport is growing a little bit, and the Mexican government doesn't want Rob doing, I can't do 130 miles an hour on the highway.
00:08:26.000It's kind of like in between rounds in a fight.
00:08:28.000You know, you jump on the highway, you get time to relax a little bit, get to take a drink of water, you're cruising 60 miles an hour, and then up ahead about 5 miles, you dump off in the dirt again, and you're just hauling ass in the dirt.
00:09:23.000If you don't get it done, you've got to wait another 365 days to get down there and do it again.
00:09:27.000And it's an awesome feeling and you can't wait to get down there and do it.
00:09:31.000So these trucks, they have like some sort of special suspension on them where each wheel is kind of independent and they have a lot of wheel travel.
00:09:39.000So they can hit these big crazy bumps and it still kind of keeps the thing fairly level.
00:09:49.000Yeah, the front suspension is A-arm, independent.
00:09:51.000The rear is actually straight axle, but with shocks that are 4.5 inches in diameter, coil springs that are 5 inches in diameter, the trucks, they work really, really well over the bumps.
00:10:04.000They're amazing when you watch them in video.
00:10:05.000You see the wheels just flopping around like they're just super loose.
00:12:08.000That was what my point was going to be.
00:12:10.000This type of racing has become so popular that it's sort of bleeding over into the commercial market.
00:12:18.000The regular domesticated human beings are buying these trucks that they could just drive out into the desert and fucking go crazy and hit bumps with.
00:12:28.000Yeah, you used to see, we called, you know, the flat billers, you know, mimicking the off-road truck, buying a Ranger, putting fiberglass fenders on it, raising it up, lowering it.
00:12:37.000And I think, you know, Ford Motor Company saw that.
00:12:40.000It's like, hey, we should build something that you can just buy right off the lot.
00:15:04.000So Bud, when we did, for folks who don't know, Bud produced, he's produced, Jesus Christ, 100 shows?
00:15:10.000I mean, how many shows have you produced?
00:15:12.000Produced overhauling and rides, and rides when we did that Barracuda, the silver Barracuda that we made, that was what, like 2004 or 2005 or something like that?
00:17:12.000I'm not sure if there's anything I don't do that's not bad for my brain.
00:17:16.000But the bouncing around, apparently he was telling me that even just jet skiing or water skiing, like getting pulled behind a boat and bouncing up and down, he's like, that's really bad for your brain.
00:18:38.000Yeah, and they suck their, um, we actually took a SEAL team guy who was on my team in 09, but he put his seatbelt so tight, it, like, starts hurting their clavicle, your clavicles start crushing down your sternum, your sternum starts separating from your chest, and I'm not kidding, he's like, I think my heart hurts.
00:19:58.000Yeah, motorcycle racing, then got into MMA, and now another crazy adrenaline junkie.
00:20:03.000The idea behind this is all based on competition.
00:20:08.000It's one of the things we were talking about.
00:20:09.000Like, there's very little money in this.
00:20:13.000Yeah, it's really, you know, it's a beautiful sport because you don't really have to have a lot of money to get in certain classes, and then there's the upper echelon class, like Rob's class, and there's not, and I'll stop talking in a minute, there's not a lot of money into it.
00:20:26.000But I don't think there's a lot, how much money is in yacht racing?
00:20:29.000I mean, all the really big sports or things that are on a bucket list, you know, there's not a lot of money in climbing on Mount Everest.
00:20:36.000It's actually cost you 25 grand if you want to go do it.
00:20:38.000It's just one of those things you have to go do.
00:21:08.000For me, too, there's a mystique around Baja for some reason.
00:21:12.000The essence of cool is you're trying to Figure yourself out in your 20s and your 30s, and you look back at Steve McQueen, guys like Steve McQueen and James Gardner and all these other cool...
00:22:41.000No, in 62, I'll tell you exactly how it happened.
00:22:45.000In 62, the Honda Motor Company decided that they were going to put out two enduro bikes, right?
00:22:49.000In 1962. Steve McQueen's stunt guy, his name's Dave Eakins.
00:22:54.000Bud Eakins was his stunt double in a lot of the races, and I'll make this short.
00:22:57.000They said, how are we going to test these bikes and market to Americans?
00:23:00.000These guys are just racers and idiots, and they wanted to go, okay, we're going to go, and swear to God, this is what happened.
00:23:06.000They went in 1962, they went to Tijuana, they went to Western Union, they timestamped a card, and they went down to La Paz, and they timestamped a card.
00:23:14.000No navigation, no nothing, and it made the Baja Peninsula.
00:23:17.000That was the very first run in the 60s.
00:23:50.000In 1967 there was a race, a Nora, right, was the first Nora.
00:23:54.000And then an icon in my world, right, Mickey Thompson, who's an icon in motorsports for everything he's done in land speed and off-road and everything.
00:24:03.000Is he the guy that drove the rocket car?
00:25:53.000Yeah, down there in Baja, I mean, this is the biggest sport that they have, and they wait year-round for us to come down there, and they have such huge passion for it like I do.
00:26:03.000At times, they want to touch the truck.
00:26:04.000You'll go by and you'll see them trying to reach out and grab the truck.
00:26:07.000Some of the other things, the shenanigans they do is, I think?
00:26:27.000And I think you can piece together your whole race by them with their phone cameras.
00:26:32.000If they all posted it, you could pretty much put the whole race together.
00:26:35.000Because there's thousands, so I'll put it in perspective.
00:26:38.000First of all, the Mexican people are amazing.
00:26:41.000And it sounds like I'm making excuses for them, but they are innocent enough where they just decide, like, they truly, and I had to learn this the hard way, I had a celebrity in my car when I was driving.
00:26:56.000And we're driving, and I'm doing about 90, just a random dirt road, and I see a bunch of people over here, right?
00:27:02.000Okay, I gotta make sure to watch them, make sure they're not darting out in front of me, and then I see some random people over here with a fire, and there's a lot of them, and it's dusk, and they both have fires on the side of this road, and I'm like, this is strange.
00:27:13.000What are those fucking people doing on the side of the road?
00:27:35.000That's really nice of these people coming out to see us.
00:27:38.000So they thought it was cute to set up this booby trap just to watch people try to jump it and go flying through the air.
00:27:45.000Well, I think the rednecks would do the same thing.
00:27:47.000If you didn't have those fences at the Daytona 500 and they could actually fix the outcome, like, we're going to see if Dale Jr. could jump this car, right?
00:28:12.000Some people throw bottles and shit like that, but they're not necessarily out to kill us or hurt us, because actually after they wreck us, they'll help us...
00:28:19.000I've had them wreck before in a booby trap, and they'll roll the car over, they'll help you fix a car with a welder, they'll help you change a tire, and they'll push you on your way.
00:28:27.000They not only throw bottles, but they throw rocks sometimes.
00:28:31.000They've thrown snakes in the cab of the truck.
00:28:33.000They've thrown snakes in the cab of the truck?
00:29:35.000You know, like when Bud was telling the story earlier about how it started in the 60s, they were taking stock trucks down there, putting a little bit bigger tires on them, taking the windshields out of them, stuff like that, putting some extra seatbelts in them.
00:29:45.000And now it's just developed into, you know, big, tall tires that weigh Tire and wheel probably weighs 150 pounds a piece.
00:29:53.000Shocks, $15,000 for a set of shocks for the truck.
00:30:57.000If you go to SEMA, which is that big, you know, aftermarket parts thing, there's an entire industry which is dedicated to off-road, and the halo of off-road is Baja 1000 Racing.
00:36:15.000So you build a carriage underneath, which are about 700-800 pounds of batteries, and then you get to the next pit, you have a fully charged set of batteries, you drop that carriage I'd be in my own class and I could provide them, whatever company it was, at the time it was a company called Phoenix, I could provide them with a Baja 1000 Win as a marketing campaign.
00:36:32.000Has Ford or any of these other companies ever thought about doing something like that?
00:36:38.000Ford is amazing at it because they do use Baja a lot.
00:36:41.000Last year, I raced the brand new F-150, the 2015 F-150, which is a twin-turbocharged V6 in the stock class.
00:37:26.000It's the 2012 Baja 1000. And they pissed me off because I told them they did this to make me mad, but they made me wear a white driving suit.
00:37:34.000For folks who don't know, Bud wears...
00:37:36.000Bud, you're the weirdest fucking dude I've ever met when it comes to clothes.
00:37:40.000You go over to Bud's house, he's got all black pants, all black shirts, his whole fucking wardrobe, his entire closet is black shirts, black pants, black t-shirts, black underwear, I'm assuming?
00:42:57.000I'm seeing, like, a lot of these crazy, like, Ramrunner-type trucks are being built.
00:43:04.000Yeah, popularity, it's, you know, I've been doing it for 32 years, and it's increased.
00:43:09.000Bud's definitely helping out a lot with score this year, you know, with television production, getting us out there on TV, putting very good shows together.
00:43:16.000I think here at the end of April, April 20th, we'll be young.
00:43:19.000We just did a deal with CBS. I told him this great story.
00:43:23.000I won my race in 2012 in my class, and then Roger Norman, who's the new owner, came up to me and I swear to God, he's like, well, now you're a champion, you can produce TV for me, is what he said to me.
00:43:34.000And I get to happy, because you know me as I do TV, I do all my stuff, so now I get to kind of merge, and I always seem to do this, merge my two hobbies together.
00:43:42.000When I was doing jiu-jitsu, we had king of the cage, right?
00:44:05.000My immersion style, like Rob will tell you, I've raced for 10 years and now I'm producing a TV. There's not much I haven't done or experienced down there, not like Rob has, but I know the racers feel comfortable, just like when you're commentating a fight.
00:44:18.000The fighters feel comfortable that you're commentating, you know what the fuck they're doing, the setups.
00:44:25.000And not in the super trucks, but I've been down there going, I know that course, I know what he's doing, this is what happens, that's a booby trap.
00:44:32.000So when we're editing the show, I get to bring my experience into it.
00:44:35.000Yeah, that's got to help a lot for the riders, for the drivers.
00:44:39.000He has as much or more passion than I do, just riding around with him today and listening to him talk about all his stuff and how jacked up he gets when he watches the videos and stuff.
00:44:50.000Yeah, Bud's fucking show Rides is what got me to...
00:44:53.000I've never thought about buying a classic car, but I watched his show Rides and I'm like, God damn, I want to get one of those that looks fucking cool.
00:45:00.000I think the show's coming back, by the way.
00:46:01.000He looks at the maps, tries to figure out the roughest, worst spots on the whole Baja Peninsula, and then tries to mark the course so it goes through all that.
00:46:09.000He wanted to make a statement, wanted to make Baja tougher than ever, and he did it last 2013. It was a loop race from Ensenada to Ensenada.
00:46:17.000It wasn't a peninsula run, but he went to all the worst parts of Baja and had us run through it.
00:46:22.000So they changed the actual place you go to, so there's no benefit.
00:46:33.000Because that becomes a big issue with, say, the Nürburgring, which is the benchmark that they use to test performance cars.
00:46:41.000The issue becomes, when guys have raced the Nürburgring so many times, they know exactly when to slow down, exactly when to speed up, and that has a big effect on those Nürburgring times.
00:46:52.000Because, you know, everyone's chasing that seven-minute time around the Nürburgring, and now...
00:46:57.000Sub-7 minute in that Porsche 918. They've managed to go sub-7 minutes, which is fucking insane.
00:47:03.000But a lot of that is those guys knowing that course.
00:47:10.000Even loop races, every time you come around, there's already been a hundred other cars that have been there since you had, and it's completely different.
00:47:31.000So a tough mudder are those races they put through obstacle courses and through mud holes and you're going to climb up a wall and go through fire and crawl through barbed wire fences.
00:47:42.000Our organizer, which is Roger and some of the guys who marked the course, the mayhem starts with them because they'll put us through shit and they know we're going to get stuck.
00:47:51.000Or they'll go, if he's not paying attention, he's going to hit that rock.
00:47:54.000He's going to go flipping off the edge, and that'll be great.
00:49:26.000And I didn't know, because I went, we were just talking about it, I was down in Loretto, we went down to La Paz, and I got a call to go back to Loretto, because our car's in trouble.
00:49:34.000And we can't find the car, and I didn't know where he's at, and then the guys in the car call my wife, 2 o'clock in the morning.
00:51:10.000Because 200 years ago, some priest—this is actually true—200 years ago, some priest on a donkey, what they used to do with the missions, they used to be two days.
00:51:21.000And then him and a donkey and somebody else would go up a road and after the second day they'd land and they'd build another mission right there.
00:51:30.000So up this hill, this donkey trail going up this hill, this guy, and I talked to him, I had Thanksgiving dinner with him, he hung a wheel off it, off the corner and said, oh shit, hold on.
00:51:41.000Six times he counted the revolutions going over and over, and all of a sudden there was nothing, and then they hit, and the co-driver was knocked out.
00:51:48.000He had a compression bruise from his helmet.
00:51:51.000Compression bruise, like his helmet got hit, and they put a bruise on his skull from the roll cage.
00:51:57.000So my story is, I get to Loretto, and nobody's there.
00:52:02.000We're so far behind, there was no pit, there was no support, and there's one guy picking up cans.
00:52:55.000So I grab his truck and it was a stock Toyota truck and we go down this riverbed, the riverbed, which was terrible, but it took me two hours to go 13 miles in a stock Toyota truck, little tiny itty bit, like a mini truck.
00:53:07.000We got to Sam Javier, went up, searching for him, stopping every time that there was a crest, every time that I thought momentum could take a driver off, we'd stop, search, couldn't find him.
00:54:53.000So how many people have died doing this race?
00:54:57.000Every year or so, there's probably one motorcycler.
00:55:01.000The biggest thing is there's accidents on the highway.
00:55:03.000It's not actually the race cars that happen, but because the race starts in Ensenada, it goes all the way to La Paz, we race all the way through the day, through the night, into the next day.
00:55:12.000Usually, a lot of the accidents happen there on the highway.
00:55:15.000The spectator traffic or the chase traffic.
00:56:40.000So he goes down there into a silt bed, and he wants to get around it, but you don't only have control in the silt bed.
00:56:48.000You can hit it, sometimes you hit a rut and it throws you right a little bit.
00:56:50.000He hit this guy and broke his leg, compound fractured his leg.
00:56:54.000So, he gets through the silt bed, and not a lot of guys that do this, by the way.
00:56:58.000I'm just telling you, for the first time being down there, and he feels like shit.
00:57:02.000He'll tell you the story, but he pulls off to the side of the course, goes into the silt bed, which is dangerous, by the way.
00:57:09.000Pulls the guy's motorcycle out so no other cars hit it, and then picks the guy up, walks him out, and puts him on the hood of his car.
00:57:15.000Calls in, waits for a helicopter to come.
00:57:17.000Helicopter comes, Josh carries this guy with a compound fractured leg into the helicopter, drops him in the helicopter, then puts his helmet back on and continues his race.
00:57:38.000So, you were talking about the dude who raced on flat surfaces and then just gave it up and started doing only this kind of dirt crazy shit.
00:57:49.000There's not a lot of these courses though, right?
00:57:51.000It's like, you could go, there's a lot of race courses around the country where The average person can do a track day and put on a helmet and drive faster on a course.
00:58:03.000How many courses are there like this where a guy can just go out?
01:00:04.000But it's pretty wild that when they do the...
01:00:08.000I think it's the events called King of the Hammers and...
01:00:10.000You climb up some rocks that you can't even climb with your hands, but you get in this modified, unlimited vehicle that's very expensive on top.
01:00:18.000It's the same with even bigger tires than we have, and they just go right up it like you're actually crawling.
01:00:28.000It's very hard for you to climb it as a human being, but this car will pull up to it, or this truck, kind of like a Jeep, but it's highly modified.
01:00:35.000It's the difference between a stock Ford F-150 and a trophy truck.
01:00:38.000It's like a stock Jeep and an unlimited, I think they call them Ultra 4s.
01:00:42.000And they're incredible what they'll do.
01:00:44.000They'll go up incredible rock climbing events.
01:01:09.000I'll fucking climb it right now, bitch.
01:01:11.000The industry, like, must be a huge thing.
01:01:18.000Like, building all these different things and...
01:01:21.000People must be getting involved in this recreationally and building these trucks and taking the regular trucks and adding all this stuff to it.
01:02:36.000And they had a fueling truck that would walk up to it while they're moving and jam it in the back of it and refuel it while they're moving.
01:02:50.000They developed a system on a regular chase truck.
01:02:55.000That was following the race truck down the highway and the fuel was in the bed of the chase truck and they had a pressurized system that they pulled up while they're going 60 miles an hour down the highway.
01:03:05.000They pulled up behind the race truck and it had like a nozzle out the front of it and they stabbed it into the nozzle that was on the race truck and they filled it.
01:05:17.000And then a rubber hose connected to the end of that that goes all the way down the inside of your leg, and you tape the end of the hose to the side of your shoe so you can piss for it.
01:05:51.000Well, the best thing is you pull up in the pits and you start peeing.
01:05:53.000You tell your mechanic, like, I think I got a leak, and he's down there sniffing it.
01:05:59.000That story right there has happened multiple times, and the one I was going to tell you about is Ivan Stewart, an icon of the sport, was at the start line, and warming his truck up.
01:06:08.000He's just about ready to go off the start line, and all of a sudden, underneath his truck, there's liquid, and one of his mechanics jumps underneath her, like, holy shit, what is that?
01:06:16.000Goes, touches his finger in it, comes up, smells it, and realizes what it is, that Ivan's actually taking a piss.
01:06:46.000We got stuck a couple times in a stock full.
01:06:47.000So we actually got to the bar, and we felt like a dick, by the way, and I had my race suit on because we came in so late, but the bar's going, and everybody's there, and they're having a celebration.
01:07:57.000So is that what you get your caffeine from?
01:08:00.000I mean, like when you're doing a 33-hour run...
01:08:03.000Like, you must do some form of stimulant to stay awake, no?
01:08:08.000The adrenaline that gets going in you when you're winning the race, you know, you get into the night.
01:08:13.000Typically, our ball 1000 starts at 10 o'clock, and you'll finish at 2, 3 in the morning.
01:08:17.000For me, if we're doing well, about midnight, when you start to get tired, usually you realize...
01:08:24.000You got a chance to win this race and the adrenaline kicks in and takes you right to the finish.
01:08:28.000It's when you're having a bad day, lots of troubles and you're pulling a 36 hour event and you're not capable of winning the race.
01:08:34.000The adrenaline goes away and then you need to throw some sodas down to keep it going or some energy drinks.
01:08:39.000Yeah, I would think that that would get really sketchy when you're dealing with these crazy turns where you really have to be paying attention and you've been up for 25 hours.
01:08:47.000That must be where the real danger lies, no?
01:08:57.000I believe they were in that car earlier that same day, right?
01:09:13.000And when they got back in it, it was early hours of the morning and dusty, maybe foggy.
01:09:18.000You've got to remember that every turn could end your race.
01:09:21.000It may be in your life if you're going too fast, but every turn.
01:09:25.000So for me, because obviously you can tell I have an issue with paying attention, I can't think of anything else.
01:09:31.000And that's why I always equate it to cage fighting.
01:09:33.000If you get in the cage and you start thinking about your bills and your check and, you know, they got this happening, all the bullshit, you're going to get your ass kicked.
01:09:41.000The only thing you have to really worry about is you're looking at brush, you're looking at dust, you're looking at power lines, you're looking at all that, you're reading the terrain, and that's all that consumes your mind.
01:09:52.000Yeah, that's a thing that people need, right?
01:09:54.000I find that I gravitate towards things that require my full, complete attention in the moment.
01:10:01.000Whether it's going to the rifle range and shooting a rifle.
01:10:06.000I took my friend Duncan and Chris yesterday, we went to the rifle range.
01:10:10.000And it's one of the things that Duncan was saying, like, when you're shooting, you don't think about anything else.
01:10:14.000Like, the moment you're pulling that trigger, your mind is free of all the other nonsense you've got going on in your life.
01:10:20.000Your mind is just concentrating on keeping the reticle, keeping that crosshair on that target, calming your nerves, and then squeezing that trigger and not moving anything else.
01:10:31.000What is it about us that we need things like that?
01:10:35.000Is it the over-complex society that we live in?
01:10:38.000I think, you know, there's, with my business, your business, and all of the thing we're doing, there's text messages, and there's fucking Facebook, and Twitter, and you gotta do all this bullshit, and there's so much stuff in there.
01:10:47.000And the thing that I think is different, much different than rifles, there's consequences of what we do.
01:10:51.000Because if we don't, if you miss the shot, oh hum, I miss the shot.
01:10:55.000I'm not putting down rifle, don't shoot me.
01:11:16.000The very easiest is you broke your car and you gotta stay out there and fix it, and you just let your team down.
01:11:22.000There are teams, he's got 60, 70 people that are on his team, and they all worked really hard to get him down there, and that pressure's on him not to fuck up.
01:11:30.000But isn't it weird that we, as human beings, have this strange desire to chase danger like that?
01:11:36.000That managing danger becomes sort of like a drug fix we're getting.
01:11:44.000You're a lot deeper human being than I am, but this goes back to primal human.
01:12:06.000Well, I think there's certain human reward systems that are set up in our minds, essentially in our DNA, and that we don't fulfill them at all with the average everyday cubicle life.
01:12:18.000Traffic, cubicle, come home, television, the news bombards you with fucking nonsense from all around the world, and then you go to sleep and start all over again.
01:14:04.000In normal life, the guy in the cubicle who's sitting in New York City, he may have one close call in his whole entire life, or maybe one a year.
01:14:13.000Down in Mexico, you have nine or ten in a race.
01:14:16.000I mean, you are close to death a few times.
01:14:49.000I took a toe strap, pulled it to the front of the thing, walked across, and hooked it to my friend's truck, and some idiot in the trophy truck...
01:16:38.000But, I mean, there's, like, these two schools of thought when it comes to people.
01:16:43.000There's people that try to seek out adventure and thrills and have all these wild experiences in their life, and there's people that have zero desire to do that.
01:17:10.000So when I go talk to people, like regular people or people that are boring as shit, I sound like an idiot and I have nothing to say to them.
01:17:17.000Because you try to do what we just did here, and Rob's got a million of them, you try to tell them an adventure story in Baja.
01:17:23.000Like, I hit a jump at 120 and I jumped this, or I accidentally hit this guy on a bike.
01:18:19.000So Rob, what's the best story for Baja?
01:18:22.000Because I told my crazy story, but you have better stories.
01:18:25.000Well, you know, actually I think I've been honestly fortunate enough when I started going to Baja, I went with Walker Evans and people that had tons of experience down there, and they kind of helped minimize those stories for me.
01:18:38.000You know, One of the early days racing class one single buggy, single seater, only one person down there after San Javier, what you're talking about earlier, had a flat tire and got out to change that tire and had the motors running in the buggy and you can't hear anybody around you.
01:18:56.000I thought I was in the middle of nowhere and all of a sudden somebody came up, tapped me on the back of the shoulder, scared the crap out of me.
01:19:52.000But I fell in love with off-road racing and then, you know, just made it my hobby there for a few years and then got lucky enough to get picked up by people like Ford Motor Company, BFGoodrich Tires, and I ended up making a career out of it.
01:20:05.000So I've been doing this for a living for over 20 years.
01:20:09.000And like Bud said, we've won, you know, over 200 races on BFGoodrich Tires.
01:20:13.000I'm actually about 280 total wins in off-road since 82. Over 20 championships.
01:20:18.000If you had to stop and you had to go and live an office job, like if someone came along and B.F. Goodrich said, look, we're taking you out of the fucking heat.
01:20:41.000I don't even know what I'm going to do.
01:20:42.000But, you know, hopefully go to work with somebody like BF Goodrich or, you know, my family owns an off-road buggy shop in Vegas doing stuff like that.
01:20:50.000But, you know, I don't plan on quitting anytime soon.
01:21:09.000Yeah, Walker Evans, Larry Ragland, some of the best of the sport, you know, had their most success in their 50s, which I haven't got there yet.
01:22:47.000We're out there racing on the track at the same time.
01:22:50.000You do have to come up and bump those guys, move them out of your way if they're slower than in front of you.
01:22:54.000But, you know, we're racing the clock, and as you get down the course, the bikes start usually, the bikes, the quads, the UTVs, they start about three hours in front of the first four-wheel vehicle, but we end up catching those guys, and that's where it becomes really sketchy, and sometimes we're these,
01:23:09.000you know, Bud's story earlier when Josh hit the bike guy.
01:23:14.000That's because the bikes can't do certain things that the truck can do.
01:24:59.000Some people just can't look at all the different variables, look at all the craziness, and just settle in, okay, this is what we're doing now.
01:25:11.000I get caught up sometimes, too, because I had a guy pull behind me one time, a French guy, tell me he's going to kick my ass if I don't move.
01:27:57.000Fucking human beings are so crazy in that way.
01:27:59.000We just find normalcy in the fact that, well, this is what happens when you do this.
01:28:04.000And then all rules, all decor, all normal rules of behavior go out the window when you're racing in a Baja and you're pissing through your fucking shoe.
01:28:18.000Something in the psyche I can tell you from me.
01:28:22.000Once you've figured this out and you've done the organization and you've gone to your catheter, to your knife, you got your chase team, you got your feel.
01:28:29.000Once you've organized the successful race campaign like he has, then regular life in business is not that hard, right?
01:28:48.000He can tell a guy, and this is actually how it goes too, is like, I need you to go to the PMIC station, which is the gas station in Mexico, be there at 1 o'clock with some extra tires that I may need when I get out.
01:29:47.000It's a logistics nightmare to plan out a race.
01:29:50.000I always say to people, if I would spend as much effort that I do off-road racing and putting the team together and the logistics in a regular business, I'd have a lot of money.
01:30:04.000Oh yeah, no, this makes UPS look like, I don't know, this is like real logistics.
01:30:09.000Yeah, but would it be any more exciting?
01:30:11.000I mean, a lot of money wouldn't be worth it.
01:30:16.000There's a lot of people that have a lot of money that we know that are just miserable as fuck.
01:30:20.000They're all on antidepressants, and they're always constantly in and out of relationships, and their life is a fucking holy wreck of failure and catastrophe, but they're financially successful.
01:30:31.000Because they're not challenging themselves.
01:30:32.000I think it has to do with challenging yourself.
01:32:21.000And you just got to surround, and I don't care about the overtime, you got to surround yourself with people like, I didn't know my race was going to be that effing long.
01:32:27.000I mean, we just happened to be, you know, we took 42 hours to do it.
01:32:30.000These guys do it in 19 or something like that.
01:32:33.000But you surround yourself with those people.
01:32:35.000And I was going to say something about our support staff.
01:32:38.000Our chase crews are amazing because we have volunteers.
01:32:59.000But in the end, you get home, you get rested up, and all the great stories come out, and you love it, and you want to go back and do it again.
01:34:44.000It looks like it's a chicken coop, but it's not funny, but you appreciate you come back and sometimes you look at your kids and other people's kids and be like, you have no idea.
01:34:54.000Yeah, and then sometimes those kids in the chicken coop will go to the dump and that's where they find metal and they find scrap and they take the aluminum cans and they get their money.
01:36:12.000Just keep going, and you go from Southern California, where the fucking Kardashians live, and you see a Rolls Royce in your neighborhood, and then a couple hours drive, and then all of a sudden you're in a third world country where no one has shoes.
01:36:27.000You go through the gate of Tijuana, you take a right, and you go up this hill, and there's a marsh...
01:36:32.000So you're in Tijuana, and you're right, you have the cardboard boxes, and you look off to your right, and there's a $20 million beach house sitting there, and you can see it.
01:36:40.000Imagine waking up every day, you're up on this hill in Tijuana, no running water, everything's happening, and you look over, there's a $20 million beach house.
01:39:40.000Raj met with China to try to bring a race over there.
01:39:43.000We are going to try to expand what score is going to do and try to bring it to other countries.
01:39:47.000I would think it would be a no-brainer for Saudi Arabia or any of those places where all those rich oil people love to do crazy shit like drift cars.
01:39:55.000You've seen those videos, those drifting videos from Arab countries.
01:40:00.000Dubai is real big right now on the sand buggies.
01:40:08.000You know, the obvious idea is getting all, you know, get all the trophy truck teams, come over there, put them on a ship, get everybody there, and go race.
01:41:00.000I've seen some of those Arab drifting crashes where cars are flipping and bodies are flying out.
01:41:08.000But the moment, like, people invented cars, like, how long before the moment a car was invented before people decided to fucking race them?
01:41:50.000Yeah, I had a conversation with someone about that once, where we were talking about planned obsolescence, like planned, like that there's certain technology that's available today that you're not going to see in cell phones or televisions because they want it to be obsolete a year from now.
01:42:04.000And he was trying to make the argument about automobiles, that they do that, that they can make the best car, right?
01:42:09.000And I'm like, you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.
01:42:11.000Because what they're doing right now is they're racing cars, and then they develop that technology based on those race cars, and that trickles down into the consumer aftermarket cars or consumer cars.
01:42:22.000The Corvette program is the number one to look at, right?
01:42:24.000So Corvette is the longest-running sports car in America.
01:42:55.000And then there is a Chevrolet engineer, and I know them, on the race team, looking at stuff, checking camber, checking brakes, checking aerodynamics, checking everything.
01:43:05.000And that technology transfers to your car, which is why Corvette is still one of the most dominant cars out there.
01:43:11.000For $70,000 you can get, just because they invest in that technology.
01:46:50.000It's very good, but the amount of power and responsibility that comes with having one of these, you just hand it off to some fucking 17-year-old kid.
01:47:02.000Well, they've also improved brakes, traction control.
01:47:06.000Actually, I have big issues with traction control and stuff like that because you do hand that guy a 700-horsepower car, and then you really unfuck everything for him, right?
01:47:22.000You don't have throttle cables anymore.
01:47:24.000You've got drive-by wire, and you can hit wide-open throttle, but the drive-by wire, the brain tells you, no, no, no, you don't want full throttle because you're just going to spin the tires.
01:47:32.000I was racing at Road Atlanta in a Corvette, a C6 Corvette, and they have this turn 11 that comes off and your car gets airborne.
01:47:38.000And every time I'd get airborne, I'd land, the car would shut off.
01:47:40.000Like, okay, idiot, whatever you're doing, you gotta stop, because that's not good.
01:48:17.000I don't know if this is true, but what people are really worried about is that someone is going to be able to have kill switches so they can shut your car off.
01:48:47.000That's something you can't retroactively, you can't take like an old Corvette Stingray, like a 1970 Stingray, and just take all those modern components and have the same sort of experience that you would have driving a C7 Corvette,
01:51:52.000You could put it on your order, and if you did the right sequence, GM would put a truck motor in cars, at that time it was a 427, and they put 427s in very few Camaros, and now they're what, you know, 800 grand or something.
01:52:04.000Right, but what that means is, GM did not want their big engine from the Corvette in the Camaro.
01:52:10.000I like that they're in his Bugatti room.
01:53:23.000But that's a trend that a lot of people are doing now because they want to have that beautiful, old-school, muscle car look, but they also want to have a car that...
01:55:01.000We're doing six one-hours this year, including the Baja 1000. So all the races that Rob's racing in, including the San Felipe 250, is our first race that he raced in.
01:56:18.000When we race, especially when I started racing, if you don't win the race, sometimes you get a little bit of money, you get a trophy, right?
01:56:24.000So we would only race, and I have a collection of them in my house, used to get these little pins, right?
01:56:29.000Little hat pins, like a $2 hat pin that says finisher on it, right?
01:58:43.000And then we'll be back Friday with one of the co-founders of Reddit.
01:58:48.000Next week we've got Dave Attels coming in and a few other people.
01:58:54.000Oh, and Andreas Antonopoulos is going to come back too and discuss what the fuck is going on with Bitcoin because it seems to be the hot topic these days.