In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast, the host talks about his recent trip to Las Vegas, his new book, and why he thinks Jay Halford is the best pool player in the world. Also, Mark Kendall from Great White joins the show to talk about nootropics and how they can make you work better at whatever you're doing, whether it's playing pool, working out, or getting your ass kicked by a celebrity. Enjoy the episode and remember to check out the rest of the show on our socials! And don't forget to use the code "ROGAN" at checkout to get 10% off any and all supplements! Use the code: ROGAN10 at checkout and save 10% on all your purchases! Thanks for listening and share the podcast with your friends and family! Enjoy! -Joe Rogan and the Podcast by Night, by Day, by Night. -The Joe Rogans Podcast by Day - by Night All Day, All Day. -- Copyright 2019 by the J.R. Rogan & the Podcast -- All Rights Reserved. This episode was produced and edited by the JORGAN and the rest is property of the J. R. Rogans. All rights reserved. Joe and the podcasting company, JORAN -- This podcast is not in any way affiliated with the . , or sponsored by Onnit, LLC. , Onnitonnite, LLC, Onnit , LLC, or any other third-party provider, , and any other is not affiliated with any other company. . . . -- on this podcast, by Any other -- Thank you for your support, review, review or review, Any feedback is appreciated, Thank you, etc., etc., -- by any other feedback is , etc., LLC -- or any feedback is also appreciated, etc. -- by any feedback requested, etc., and thanks, etc, etc.. ... - Thank you! -- Thanks for your feedback, -- thank you, Thank you so much for your continued support, support, etc... -- -J.Rogan Experience Podcast by day, by Mr. Joe -- I really appreciate it's a pleasure -- J. and I really do appreciate it, Joe Rogan Podcast by night by Night by Night By Day, all day, All day All Day All Day By Night, By Night By Night
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00:06:54.000For folks who don't know, ten ball or nine ball, either one of them, they're rotation games, which means you play the one ball first, and then you go to the two, to the three, and then to win, you get the ten ball in.
00:07:05.000But to win with a handicap, you could give a guy another game.
00:08:08.000So, even though it sounds like, oh, Shane's really giving something up here, you know, if he breaks, because that's the whole thing with him.
00:08:16.000Well, people, you know, some say he just breaks, you know, good or whatever, but that, you know, you know that's crappy.
00:08:23.000This guy plays behind the break like crazy good, but...
00:09:47.000Well, one of the things that I wanted to talk to you about, because you're such a really good pool player, is there's something involved in trying to get really good at pool or really good at anything that requires an incredible amount of time where it's like the level of commitment that you have to have To get really good at that.
00:10:08.000I guess it's got to be kind of similar to guitar playing in a way, like the amount of practice that you have to put in, the level, and that there's just levels and levels and levels to this stuff.
00:10:31.000My mom sang music in the house all the time.
00:10:35.000But at the same time, I still played baseball from the time I was 8 until I was 18. And my dad's dream for me was to not be the big star musician because he just thought there was no chance at that.
00:10:48.000But to be the LA Dodger, you know what I mean?
00:10:51.000We thought there was a chance at that more than there was a chance.
00:10:53.000You must have played really good ball.
00:12:14.000Did you really have zero chance or would it have to be something that you completely abandoned everything else and just threw your life at baseball?
00:12:26.000I could have played maybe a different position, but I really wasn't...
00:12:31.000I didn't have enough power to, I think, who's going to skip over the two guys that are better than me on my team to go to man number three and let's sign him because he's just cool or something.
00:12:44.000Well, couldn't you get better, though?
00:13:34.000They look like little tiny pros, you know?
00:13:37.000Well, I'm fascinated by strength and conditioning programs now.
00:13:41.000I mean, it's one of the things, being a mixed martial arts commentator and getting to see the improvement that some fighters have had by incorporating strength and conditioning programs and getting to see, like, how scientific they've become and how...
00:13:52.000I mean, the different things that they work on.
00:13:55.000Like, I watched a video last night with Phil Davis, who's one of the top UFC light heavyweights.
00:14:05.000It was this balance exercise where he's balancing on one foot that's on a roller and they're throwing a ball at him and he's catching it with one hand and throwing it back while he's balancing.
00:14:19.000They're working on foot strength and stability and balance and movement.
00:14:24.000There's so much science involved in strength and conditioning and getting better at athletics now.
00:14:31.000There's a Maybe, you know, when I hear you speak, maybe there would be a chance for me to improve if I really got into, you know, working out and stuff.
00:14:41.000You know, the singer that's been in my band for like four years now, his name's Terry Alouse and...
00:14:47.000He's been in martial arts for like 27 years or something.
00:15:10.000My nerves kind of get rattled sometimes, and I think it's because I don't work out enough.
00:15:16.000I don't have a strict routine, and I'm not taking supplements and all this stuff.
00:15:21.000I hear your commercials about the different supplements and Well, I don't know if we have anything that would really help nerves, but I definitely think that exercise does.
00:16:16.000Yeah, it's easy to be addicted to bad things, but being addicted to something good is something that's really difficult to force your discipline, force your body to go.
00:16:28.000I'm going to be addicted to drinking fresh squeezed juices, vegetable juices every morning, and then taking a yoga class every day.
00:17:02.000Whether you get it in the form of whiskey or whether you get it in the form of 12 beers a night, it's alcohol.
00:17:07.000You still wake up shaky and you're all screwed.
00:17:09.000And I was able to get away from that and, you know, kind of do other things and, you know, help people that are struggling and just, you In more positive areas, but...
00:17:23.000Do you find that, like, I've met a lot of people that are really great at things and really impulsive and really, you know, just the type of people that throw themselves in it the way that you describe.
00:17:32.000I'm sure you must have had to do that to get so good at guitar, and I'm sure you did that to get really good at pool, but do you find that that's sort of like a part of your mind that can kind of get...
00:17:47.000And then that becomes the thing that you become impulsive about.
00:17:50.000That becomes the thing that you get addicted to.
00:17:53.000Well, that's why they say, they call it, somebody that gets really addicted to a drug, wasted talent.
00:18:00.000Because they're so good at something and they're letting this drug of choice or whatever ruin this blessing that they've received That makes them great at something.
00:18:14.000And I was lucky to be able to get away from it.
00:18:19.000But as far as the guitar goes, I've played since I was nine years old.
00:20:14.000I've learned from a lot of people, just friends of mine, hey man, show me that, you know, or whatever.
00:20:19.000But as far as a true sit down, pay the guy, you know, okay, show me how to play or whatever.
00:20:26.000It was this guy who was in this like surf band when I was like probably 10 or 11. And he was teaching me like Tom Dooley and, you know, the stuff I didn't want to really be.
00:20:59.000I want, I... Probably, you know, when I tell kids that are coming up now, I say, you know, it's great if you've got a good ear because you're like halfway there.
00:21:08.000If you learn how to read and you know all the theory and everything, plus you have the great ear, you're going to have it up on just about everybody, you know.
00:22:32.000I think there's definitely some just born talent that some people have.
00:22:38.000It's just a matter of whether or not they pursue it.
00:22:40.000And there's also that thing that we were saying, the negative aspect of it, is that same sort of personality trait that gets you to be able to sit down and really explore music for hours and hours at a time, which is what it takes to be a great guitarist, Manifests itself in addiction and manifests that same sort of just throwing yourself at something and being completely engulfed in it for whatever reason a lot of times manifests itself
00:23:11.000in either alcoholism or drug addiction or what have you.
00:23:19.000I just think an addict is just an addict.
00:23:23.000I really don't think the music has that much to do with it, but I think a trigger for, you know, like say a recovering addict or whatever, he's out on the road, he's in this band, he has all this pressure from...
00:23:38.000Everybody telling him how great he is and everything because that can become pressure.
00:23:42.000When people are telling you you're the greatest band on earth and you're the best guitar player in the world and all this stuff, you kind of just don't want to take it serious and it can drive you crazy and I think that causes some people to numb themselves to reality.
00:24:52.000I don't know what the analogy would be, but that was just one of my thoughts, is that it could be that the pressure of just being in the music world and stuff and having all this going on,
00:25:09.000because it seems as if it happened like that.
00:25:15.000Even though you've been grinding in the clubs for years and years, It's like all of a sudden you're in an arena setting.
00:25:23.000You've got cameras all around, microphones, people coming up to you.
00:25:45.000I personally think that the environment of celebrity on that level, to be in a band like Great White, fucking gigantic, huge arena band, and you're fucking on every magazine, and you're on the radio every day, that pressure, the kind of pressure and recognition is totally alien for a human being.
00:26:04.000I mean, the only people that ever got that kind of attention in the past were kings.
00:26:10.000They just never got that kind of attention.
00:26:13.000I just think it's completely alien to the human race and didn't exist until mass media was invented.
00:26:19.000Until the beginning of the 20th century when they figured out how to broadcast things in movies and in songs and records and then music videos and what have you.
00:26:33.000It may be normal to be the center of attention in a small group or even a large group.
00:26:38.000But those people know you and you're talking in front of them.
00:26:41.000If you're speaking in front of a group of people that want to hear your opinion on things or if you're a leader, those are all normal things.
00:26:48.000But to be on a fucking stage playing guitar and 20,000 people are going, wah!
00:27:02.000A very shy person, I've kind of worked on that over the years, but, you know, actually to go out in front of 300,000, which has happened a few times...
00:27:40.000That's sort of the same way with comedy.
00:27:41.000I mean, I've never done anything with 300,000 people, but one of the things that will make you nervous more than anything is going on stage in front of two folks.
00:30:40.000The thing about negative people, and this is a really important point, is sometimes they have a point and you can learn from them.
00:30:47.000Sometimes negative people say things that you don't want to hear, you don't like it, but then you read it and you go, ooh, there's something there, there's something there, this is a point there.
00:30:56.000You could use them, but for them, God.
00:30:59.000Being that person is so damaging to you, to them, to the person who's being negative.
00:31:07.000Like, you could talk shit about a person, me, or talk shit about you all day long, but it doesn't change the fact that you're still Mark Kendall.
00:31:38.000And that's a good percentage of people.
00:31:40.000If you read their blogs, if you go to their Twitter pages, if you listen to their, you know, if someone has a negative radio show or a podcast or whatever, what you're hearing is just all this fucking horrible stuff.
00:32:25.000Look, I have read things that are very negative about me that may be totally unjust, but I could say, is it possible that someone else could think like this, and could it be like, does it make sense that they could think like this?
00:32:39.000And if that's the case, if it's defensible, then I should probably work on whatever aspect of my own personality that's causing this opening to be there.
00:32:47.000Sort of like in a martial arts standpoint.
00:32:49.000If you're a bad motherfucker in jiu-jitsu, like say if you're really good at jiu-jitsu and you've got a great arm drag and you're great at taking people's back and you choke people on a regular basis, but if someone gets your back, you've got no defense and you tap out really quick, you need to work on that.
00:33:04.000That's something that you need to figure out.
00:33:06.000Why do I tap when someone gets my back?
00:33:10.000That analogy, I think, presents itself in the martial arts analogy, presents itself when you're dealing with a lot of different people that are critiquing your work or a lot of different people that are putting things out there.
00:33:24.000I'm not going to name names, but he's a fighter.
00:33:27.000And he and his wife, they had a huge problem because he was, like, there was negative, someone saying negative things about him and her on Twitter or on Facebook or I forget where it was.
00:33:40.000But they were just, you know, just being an asshole, just saying really mean, nasty stuff about him and his wife.
00:33:46.000The way they look and the way she looks.
00:33:49.000It was devastating to them, to the both of them.
00:33:51.000And you would think, here's a guy who's a fucking cage fighter.
00:34:06.000I've been down this road with haters, not people that are just slightly negative or whatever, but Just people that just, all they do is go say, you suck, or whatever.
00:36:55.000So when you would go on stage there, and you're also dealing with Sunset, Hollywood, you're dealing with a lot of people also that they have aspirations that are unrealized.
00:37:05.000They want to be famous, they want to be an actor, they want to be a musician, they want to be something.
00:37:10.000And here they are sitting in the audience looking for something wrong with you.
00:37:14.000Or needing attention that they're not getting.
00:37:16.000Like a lot of those people are fucking black holes of attention.
00:37:19.000You could stuff them full of trash and meteors and everything.
00:37:23.000They're never going to fill that fucking hole.
00:38:10.000No, you know what he was doing is he got away from the whole impression thing and he was just starting to go out on stage with no material whatsoever.
00:38:53.000Like, his old stand-up was really good, but he's more like big impressions and slapstick-y, and for a guy like that to go on stage with no material...
00:39:03.000It was actually in his bio, and it was someone else talking about the show, where he was going out, he was a cockroach, and he's trying to climb under the piano, and...
00:39:13.000Doing this crazy, you know, like body contortion stuff, you know, and just kind of winging it because that's where he kind of felt comfortable.
00:39:24.000He didn't want to become like the rich little guy that was just going to go out and do these.
00:39:29.000Supposedly he's pretty good at impressions.
00:42:46.000You know, the other thing is I did things there that I wouldn't normally do, never do here, like go out in the crowd and watch bands and stuff.
00:42:54.000I go, it's not like I'm Eddie Van Hill and nobody's going to know me.
00:42:57.000So I went out and I'm watching like, you know...
00:43:01.000Buddy Guy who's influenced Hendrix and all these great...
00:44:27.000I play, but I'm a huge music fan, geek, man.
00:44:31.000When I meet my heroes, I... You know, five years ago we did a show with ZZ Toppin and their tour manager used to be our tour manager and he'd go, you better hook me up with Billy Gibbons.
00:44:41.000I want to do like one-on-one hang, you know.
00:45:47.000A picture comes in my mind from hearing a song.
00:45:52.000When a guy has that much influence on me, to meet him in person and have him be soulful down to earth and You know, he emailed me that night, and I didn't even get home.
00:46:04.000I didn't get the email for two more days.
00:46:06.000He was like, nice meeting you, you know.
00:46:10.000Then when ZZ Top played in Palm Desert, that's where I was living at the time, he goes, hey, come on down, Mark, bring your crew, and all this stuff.
00:46:40.000I'm a total fan because I have my heroes.
00:46:42.000I mean, the guys that made me want to play guitar.
00:46:45.000Do you find that that's something that some guys lose as they become professionals and as they become better in music and become a big-time music guy that they kind of stop being a fan of music?
00:47:54.000And I go, we got to do that if we're going to have any chance, you know, because my thinking was if we play more than everybody, we might have to play free a lot, but if our name, you know, we might be able to brainwash people in thinking they're supposed to like us, you know what I mean?
00:48:14.000It was that playing free, getting our name out.
00:48:18.000We just happened to be at the Whiskey one night playing during the week, not even a big night or anything, and the right guy was in the crowd.
00:48:28.000And he came up, gave us his card, and before you know it, we're recording.
00:48:50.000But this manager we had called Alan Niven, he was from England, he used to work for Virgin Records, he had signed Berlin, he signed Motley Crue, and a year before this, and then they would sell these bands off to big labels.
00:49:06.000Well, he got us on KMET when we had no deal, and no local bands were on KMET and Kaila West with no deal.
00:53:28.000What I was going to get to, it gave me chills almost, because I'm like you, Stranglehold, and being a teenager, and when that album came out and everything.
00:53:40.000But the whole band went back to the hotel, and I'm on the side of the stage, and he goes, he's going, how about that Grey Wyatt?
00:56:06.000That's really cool that you can handle all that, that you're well-versed in different subjects and stuff, like fitness and...
00:56:12.000Well, I'm very fortunate, you know, that I can talk to all these different peoples.
00:56:16.000It would be incredibly rare to be able to sit down and just have long-term, you know, long-form conversations, two, three-hour conversations with just a bunch of random people like that, you know?
00:56:27.000Whether it's Steve Rinella or I've had David Lee Roth on or all these different characters and It's interesting to have a bunch of different people with various ideas.
00:56:43.000Oh, by the way, I wanted to tell you something.
00:57:18.000Don't be announcing something and then say, well, I'm not going to play it now.
00:57:21.000Well, I'm excited that you brought the guitar because I wasn't sure if you were going to.
00:57:30.000You know, Joe's a busy man From his head down to his toes From Los Angeles down to Mexico His shower will pulverize you Leave a little smile on your face His timing's impeccable In
00:58:01.000a timely kind of way You know he get what he wants And that's a guarantee Oh yeah Hey,
00:59:48.000Actually, you know, the past few years when I get a riff in my head, usually when I'm in writing mode like we're going to do a record soon or something, I used to not really be able to get that close to what was in there, but I've been able to kind of get closer these days.
01:00:06.000And one thing that I've learned over the years, and that is when you have this energy and this thought and this Mm-hmm.
01:03:31.000He was just doing all kinds of different stuff.
01:03:33.000When he became the one-liner master, literally all these jokes are constructed perfect.
01:03:40.000He doesn't go one word off, but he does have to write the stuff.
01:03:44.000But it's just an amazing story that the guy makes this huge comeback at 40 and literally has this monster career in movies and Supposedly, the story goes, when he was asked to do Caddyshack,
01:03:59.000they said action, and he didn't even know what the action meant.
01:09:26.000And so he gave them that idea, and then they incorporated the two ideas, and, you know, back to school was brilliant, obviously, once he was a rich guy, you know what I mean?
01:10:40.000You know, that's a perfect metaphor or whatever for wasted talent.
01:10:46.000Because if somebody's really strong and kicking ass, I don't think it's a coincidence that the guy's doing a lot of blow now and his show is kind of going downhill.
01:13:41.000Your attitude, like that attitude about performing, it's so important.
01:13:45.000And it's so important because that attitude of gratitude, of respecting what you're doing and loving what you're doing and really being enthusiastic about the performance and wanting people to have a great time is everything.
01:14:01.000I just want to give people their money's worth.
01:14:03.000And giving my all, like really feeling like I gave them everything I had available, it makes you feel like you got some self-worth, you know, and...
01:14:14.000And plus you get people going, whoa, did you see that?
01:14:18.000And man, I want to give them their money's worth.
01:14:37.000comedy and performing, and he was just starting to build a following, and I said, dude, I go, if you're an Ari Shafir fan, and I'm an Ari Shafir fan, you're the only guy that can provide Ari Shafir.
01:14:49.000Another guy might be able to steal your jokes, another guy might be able to try to mimic your delivery, but if I want to go see this crazy motherfucker named Ari Shafir, you're the only guy that can give that to people.
01:15:00.000You're the only one out there that's Ari Shafir.
01:15:02.000And he was like, wow, that's totally true.
01:15:06.000I have no responsibility as the keeper of the Ari Shaffir act, of the Ari Shaffir material, and you as a human.
01:15:13.000You've got to go out there and you're the only one that can do it.
01:15:15.000And people out there are fans and they want to go see it and you're the only one that can provide that.
01:15:21.000And Ari does, but there's some comedians who don't.
01:15:24.000Like, I've seen comedians go on stage and just completely phone it in and half-ass it, trying out new material, because they didn't care if the audience got a good show, because the audience should just be happy that they're there.
01:15:50.000That we've, as a band, have eliminated going through the motions is allowing ourselves the freedom to make new music.
01:15:59.000If I was just some oldies band, we would have probably been over 20 years ago, because I'm not going to go out and just play once a bit and twice shy once a year.
01:18:56.000A few classics thrown in is great, but the last thing you want to hear when you go see a comedian is the same act in the same order that you saw five years ago.
01:19:06.000Well, yeah, if it was the same, I mean, even like majorly pro bands, I'm talking like, you know, well, you know, I mean, just any band, they go do a similar show every night on a certain tour.
01:19:19.000Now, maybe they're not going to come back and give you that same look again next year, but...
01:19:25.000But I've even, like, we did a tour with Kiss, and every night they were saying the same thing to the audience.
01:19:31.000It was like, you know, cookie-cutter reaction, you know?
01:19:34.000It's like, oh, and now he's going to say this, you know?
01:19:55.000Really powerful in the sense that their live album, the one they did years and years and years ago, was the most...
01:20:04.000Sought-after, best-selling, you know, and some of those things that he said in between the songs became very famous, you know, like the cool gen thing.
01:20:24.000I'm happy to hear that because one thing, and I'm not going to take sides or do any kind of stuff, but I really feel bad You know, that they're not being given any credit from their former bandmates,
01:20:42.000you know, to just write them off as hired guns when they were part of...
01:20:47.000I mean, that drummer, Peter Criss, wrote their biggest-selling, biggest hit of the band's career, on paper, at least.
01:20:57.000So to just call them hired grunts that were in our band a long time ago, I understand that they're bitter because of addiction problems and stuff like that, but you shouldn't throw your brothers under the bus.
01:21:11.000I'm not going to sit here and speak for them, but I'm just saying I feel bad because when I was a young teenager...
01:21:19.000Just about every one of my friends were playing air guitar to Ace Frehley.
01:24:24.000There's lots of stuff that I could talk about.
01:24:27.000Ladies and gentlemen, this is the problem with having a podcast like this.
01:24:31.000A lot of people don't have the kind of bladder control that I've developed over years and years of podcasting and working the UFC. I make a joke out of it because at the UFC, Mike Goldberg, my co-host, he hates when I talk about this, but tough shit.
01:24:45.000The dude has to pee like six times every broadcast.
01:24:49.000So I've developed the ability to maintain and to hold my bladder because I'm a big boy.
01:24:56.000Because I know how to handle my coffee and my stimulants.
01:25:00.000That's the problem, really, is when you start drinking shit like Red Bull.
01:25:26.000And also, this Friday night, I'm going to be at the Ice House in Pasadena, and it's one of the shows that Brian has put together, and I know there's some funny people that are going to be on it.
01:25:38.000Christina Pazitsky is going to be on it.
01:27:09.000I had a lot of tapes in the Hoist Gracie days and stuff.
01:27:13.000And one thing that blew my mind, because I've always been a boxing fan, And, you know, then I started watching this UFC stuff and I was like, whoa, man, these guys, it's so intense.
01:27:26.000And it seemed like, well, at least back then, that the grapplers had...
01:28:12.000And Bruce Lee was a tremendous martial artist.
01:28:14.000Bruce Lee was a real innovator and Bruce Lee is responsible for the idea behind his Jeet Kune Do, which was that you could take all the best aspects of all the different martial arts and combine them together.
01:28:27.000So in a lot of senses, Bruce Lee was the original mixed martial arts fighter.
01:28:32.000But he had very little competition experience and very little real fighting experience amongst elite fighters, like at the UFC level.
01:28:47.000If the UFC had been around when he was...
01:28:51.000I mean, if he was born in this era, and the UFC was around while he was at the age that he would want to compete at, who knows?
01:28:58.000He might have been in there, and he might have been a champion.
01:29:01.000But the reality of the situation is, what he was was just a guy who was a great martial artist who was ahead of his time, and a true, true innovator.
01:29:10.000But to say that a guy like Hennon Barrow, who's the UFC bantamweight champion, who would be the guy that he would compete against, to say that he wouldn't be able to catch Bruce Lee's...
01:29:27.000If you took the Bruce Lee from the movies and the Hennenborough from the UFC, pulled him out of a time machine and stuck him into the octagon, Hennenborough would have his way with him.
01:30:23.000You're not taking anything away from Bruce Lee, you're just stating the facts.
01:30:27.000I'm a huge Chuck Norris fan, but if Chuck Norris had to fight the elite of the elite in mixed martial arts as well, I mean, he would have to be in that game and train in that game to get to that level, and then you would see.
01:32:44.000I know I couldn't get there with that guy.
01:32:47.000Yeah, there was a few guys throughout history that have played pretty good, but everybody says that Jackie Gleason was probably the all-time best guy.
01:34:25.000So he thought back then that Tiger had no chance.
01:34:28.000He just said, you know, because his thinking was, you know, we're college guys.
01:34:32.000I mean, he's really good, but, you know, he's not going to go out and be, you know, whoever.
01:34:38.000It was just, you know, kind of the thinking at that time.
01:34:40.000Obviously, he's got tons of respect for Tiger Woods.
01:34:44.000Well, Tiger Woods is another perfect example of a guy who just completely driven, threw himself into this one discipline and just had a dad who was also completely obsessed by it.
01:34:55.000Just put all of his time and effort into it.
01:34:57.000When you look at guys that do things really great and guys that are really good or whatever, it's usually the really great guy that has worked harder.
01:35:08.000He might have some natural ability, which helps, but...
01:35:14.000Almost every walk of life when I see somebody that just totally blows my mind, they worked harder.
01:36:18.000Get up and just run 100 at will and stuff like that.
01:36:22.000I've always said that pool is an art form that can only be appreciated by people who play it.
01:36:28.000If you don't play pool, you're really not going to be able to appreciate what's going on.
01:36:31.000I kind of have to agree with that because that's why I was so kind of happy that a guy like you that's really busy in the business or whatever...
01:36:50.000I've heard him talk about you and stuff.
01:38:00.000In fact, when I heard that he was kind of experiencing a little bit of a problem with the pills, I was going to reach out to him and he died before.
01:38:46.000I just every once in a while just say, hey man, if anybody out there is struggling and wants to try to get sober, I'm available to be your sober friend.
01:41:50.000Like you're working on one spot and I get a little relief right here.
01:41:54.000Well, having a person who's really good at deep tissue massage and sports massage and someone who really understands the connective tissue, you could relieve a lot of tension in your back.
01:42:10.000Athletes go for deep tissue massage on a regular basis for that very reason, just because it offers relief.
01:42:15.000It allows the muscles to heal more properly.
01:42:17.000It allows more circulation in the area.
01:42:21.000A lot of things they're doing now that are just incredible are One of them, there's this cryo thing they're doing where athletes will work out really hard and they step in this thing that uses liquid nitrogen to bring the temperature down like 150 below zero.
01:42:35.000And they stand in it for like two minutes and then they get out and the incredible cold causes all your vessels to constrict And then, when you get out of it, everything dilates.
01:43:54.000Just green leafy vegetables are so important for your body.
01:43:58.000And it's something that we just don't get enough.
01:44:01.000When you're talking about phytonutrients, you're talking about minerals, all the different things that you get from vegetables, they're one of the most important things that people are deficient from in their diet.
01:44:11.000Being minerally deficient, being nutritionally deficient, a lot of it is because of a lack of green leafy vegetables, healthy vegetables, organic vegetables, and healthy proteins on top of that.
01:44:34.000But vitamins are good also to cover all your bases as far as adding additional nutrition to your diet to make sure that you're optimizing everything.
01:44:46.000You'll hear like, oh, you don't need multivitamins.
01:44:59.000The best way also is to go to someone who can monitor your blood work.
01:45:03.000Get your blood work done and find out.
01:45:05.000You might say, the doctor might look at you like, hey, you're low in vitamin D. You're low in vitamin B12. You could use some C. Yeah, go to someone who's a real doctor, an expert in nutrition, an expert in vitamins,
01:45:21.000and someone who can actually do some blood work on you.
01:45:25.000And then from there, go to a nutritionist.
01:46:40.000And then, you know, the thing is, though, if I do do it and I'll go off and I'll have like some Krispy Kreme donuts, I I feel like such shit physically.
01:46:50.000I've done that before where I'll have McDonald's and just swear it off like I'll have a Big Mac or something and it's like I feel so bad and disgusting and I just want to throw up.
01:47:02.000I feel so horrible like somebody kicked me in the stomach or something.
01:47:06.000And then it's like I make myself forget about it and like, you know, four months later I'll have a Big Mac again.
01:47:29.000One thing I've noticed, and I think it's because they do some kind of a different oil or something, but french fries from like McDonald's, Burger King, all these type places, has this taste, and I call it...
01:47:44.000Kerosene mixed with dirt or something.
01:48:12.000They don't have any freaky oil coming in.
01:48:15.000If you want to go off the diet, In-N-Out's the best way to do it because you could also get it protein style where you get a burger that's just on a lettuce, like the lettuce on the top.
01:48:41.000And the fries have a completely different taste because of that.
01:48:44.000I've heard the reason, you know, this thing I'm talking about where the fries have this aftertaste that's nasty is because the FDA or whatever...
01:48:55.000They've approved some kind of oil they can use and they reuse it and it's okay or something.
01:49:01.000It causes this aftertaste that's in more than one franchise.
01:49:08.000And other people I've spoken with have tasted it as well.
01:49:13.000It's just they don't hate it as much as me.
01:49:17.000I mean, most fast food is cooked in the unhealthiest oil.
01:49:23.000Here's an article that was on ABC.com, and they're talking about most french fries served in U.S. restaurants are immersed in corn-based oil, usually considered the worst oil for human health, before they're fried.
01:49:37.000Corn oil contains copious amounts of saturated fat known to contribute to heart disease.
01:49:41.000This type of oil is also low in monosaturated fat, which most Americans need more of, and high in polyunsaturated fat, which is in two large quantities, can lower HDL, which is your good cholesterol, along with LDL, your bad cholesterol.
01:49:57.000Did you hear when the naked chef or whatever, like...
01:50:02.000Just tried to boycott McDonald saying it's not safe for human consumption.
01:50:24.000Yeah, and he was talking about all these ingredients in McDonald's that were really bad and not safe for human consumption, and so they changed a bunch of stuff.
01:50:40.000I mean, I think that, look, there's a lot of things that people eat that they should be allowed to eat things that are unhealthy.
01:50:47.000I mean, you should be allowed to go to Krispy Kreme Donuts.
01:50:49.000When you're going to Krispy Kreme Donuts, if you think that it's healthy, you're a fucking idiot, right?
01:50:54.000You know, I mean, if you think you're getting one of those cream-filled, delicious, sugar-coated monstrosities, if you think somehow or another that's good for you, you're a moron.
01:51:05.000You're going there and not going to Whole Foods and getting fresh vegetables, but it should be able to exist because you should be able to go and get a donut if you want one.
01:53:09.000I practiced some yoga just on a video, like watching this chick and just doing stuff she's doing, and it really makes you feel good, the stretching.
01:57:28.000We're from back, you know, even some that haven't made it huge or whatever, you know, but just like that played, you know, the club scene or whatever.
01:57:38.000I mean, they have a couple that, you know, like the Bullet Boys and Tracy Guns from L.A. Guns or whatever.
01:57:48.000But, you know, there's a lot of local bands playing during the day and stuff.
01:58:41.000I have so many good memories from that time because the music and the scene was so electric.
01:58:51.000I played Guzzaris once and the guy painted a picture of me playing my guitar on the side of the building next to Huey Lewis and the News and Jim Morrison and Eddie Van Halen.
01:59:06.000I have so many memories of not even playing there, just going to Hollywood.
01:59:17.000That's sort of half the fun of the Rainbow is just being there and seeing all the freaks and all the cool people and all the people like, oh, there's that guy.
02:01:50.000I'd go buy, like, Robin Trower's record, go to my friends, you know, we'd set up everything, man, get the speakers outside the window, and listen to this album over and over and over.
02:02:30.000And he makes so much sense to me because I went through all these things that he's talking about, which is playing with guys that don't really play that good and we're jamming in the garage and, you know, pissing off my parents and...
02:02:43.000You know, and just going through that and improving from there and just getting better, you know, or whatever, instead of people just thrown together with their songs written by somebody else and all that, you know.
02:04:20.000And all those other closed-off avenues, like we were talking about, getting on the Ed Sullivan Show was everything to a guy like Rodney Dangerfield.
02:04:28.000If you couldn't get on the Ed Sullivan Show, you were fucked.
02:04:31.000Today, for a comic especially, boy, you don't need that at all.
02:04:34.000I mean, my friends who have become famous from the internet, like Joey Diaz and Ari Shafir and Duncan Trussell, they've only had the internet.
02:04:41.000The internet is all they ever needed, but all they needed was talent and an avenue.
02:04:46.000In my days, I needed a staple gun and the posters and...
02:05:09.000You know, there's definitely a lot of that.
02:05:11.000There's still a lot of fucking morons out there when it comes to that kind of stuff.
02:05:14.000But I think it's definitely a better time as far as putting the power in the hands of the artists and These people that are the normal cabal that were controlling the music industry, they've lost a lot of their power, right?
02:05:27.000Yeah, and the difference now is we don't need millions of dollars to record and all that kind of promotion.
02:05:37.000And that's why the major labels are suffering a bit.
02:05:42.000And yeah, where the power comes in is...
02:05:47.000No longer are we just getting our little points.
02:05:54.000We make a million dollars, the record company gets 900 and whatever, and they throw our crumbs, enough crumbs to where we don't go away.
02:07:08.000And being the artist, when you don't have your own representation and you just want to do anything to break out of this club scene, you want to be a big band on big tours.
02:07:43.000You know, our deal wasn't great either, but we've kind of made up for that.
02:07:48.000It wasn't our whole career, but at the beginning it wasn't that great.
02:07:52.000Well, it always starts off, nobody ever says, oh, we got an awesome deal right out of the gate, and we're very fortunate to be with an ethical record company.
02:07:59.000No, it's just, you talk about the fucking scoundrels that signed you.
02:08:02.000I mean, that's also, you think about a music company, how many people do they sign?
02:08:06.000I mean, they might sign a hundred, and one of them might become Great White.
02:08:09.000You know, there's a lot of failure involved on their end, too.
02:08:13.000The prognostication doesn't always pan out.
02:08:15.000Oh, yeah, that's what they call their write-offs.
02:08:17.000You know, their write-off bands, but, yeah.
02:08:19.000Yeah, but for a band that's successful, the reality behind it.
02:08:24.000Did you ever read that piece that Courtney Love wrote on the music business?
02:08:28.000She wrote a pretty incredible piece about explaining the expenses and how much it actually costs and what an artist actually gets paid and how much the studio gets paid and how they go about saying how much things are worth.
02:08:41.000I haven't read the piece, but I'm glad she wrote something like that because it'll school the audience on, you know...
02:08:55.000People will understand that we work really hard and we're not just walking around zillionaires.
02:09:02.000Were you bummed out when the whole Napster thing came along and people started downloading MP3s and it just almost immediately sort of took the wind out of the sails of records?
02:09:13.000You know, I was bummed out even before that a little bit, but You know, I know me, like I talked about earlier, that I'm a fan of music, and I like to support the artists.
02:09:25.000I go out and buy their albums, you know.
02:11:09.000And, you know, in the days when we were, you know, playing arenas every night, it's very difficult.
02:11:15.000You know, the constructed meet and greets, we can only meet a few.
02:11:20.000And you really can't go out and say, hey, you know, invite 20,000 people backstage for the party, you know.
02:11:26.000But we've really taken advantage of being able to hear their stories, man.
02:11:31.000I mean, I'm talking like stories that I don't remember.
02:11:35.000I mean, you know, people doing my laundry and they gave me a ride here or, you know, they were in this certain place or this guy got married to this song or, you know, got laid because, you know, your song, this one or, you know what I mean?
02:11:56.000I mean, if our music is involved in people's life like that, because I have, again, I can relate, because like I was saying earlier, I literally have visuals when I hear certain songs.
02:12:09.000You know, like I remember where I was, how old I was, what I was doing, you know, almost like Yeah.
02:12:33.000To, you know, just be involved with that.