In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe talks about his new cell phone service, Ting, and the new Samsung Galaxy S5. Also, he talks about the new iPhone 7, and why he thinks Apple is going to have to go all-in on the iPhone.
00:00:33.000So if you want to fucking bail, you just bail, son.
00:00:36.000Most of the time when you get a phone from a major provider, what you're doing when you buy a phone for like 200 bucks, the phone really probably costs like 500 bucks or more.
00:00:47.000But what you're doing is you're paying for the phone sort of like on layaway.
00:00:53.000So if you go, I'm quitting, your phone service sucks, I can't make calls from my house.
00:00:58.000When you cancel your, I'm sorry I made you sound so dumb.
00:01:01.000Just you figuratively, it's not really you.
00:01:05.000That's actually how I speak off the air.
00:01:26.000Ting has it set up where they rent time on the sprint backbone, which sounds really fucking weird, but just the term renting time on a backbone.
00:02:20.000Like, say if you pay, you know, if your cell phone costs X amount per month and you're allotted 120 minutes, if you use less of those minutes, you don't get any money back, right?
00:03:07.000I read a good review about it, and they said it's an amazing phone.
00:03:10.000You know, it's better than the last one and stuff.
00:03:11.000The waterproof thing is probably the best thing about it, but they also threw so many options on this phone that it's ridiculous, like the fingerprint sensor and stuff like that.
00:03:48.000Because I like Sony's stuff, but I feel like it's always one and a half times more expensive than I haven't looked into it, quite honestly.
00:03:54.000But, you know, there's what the point, just to get through this commercial, is that there's so many high-quality Android cell phones now.
00:04:02.000There's quite a bit, including the Samsungs, the LGs, Motorola is now owned by Google, and they're making pretty badass cell phones.
00:04:13.000And they have the Moto X. They have that at Ting.
00:04:59.000Well, if you can figure out a way to get that shit shipped to you, that's probably better than forcing yourself to go to the store all the time.
00:05:06.000And what Dollar Shave Club does is gives you a four pack for six bucks and just sends them to you.
00:05:15.000They have a ton of other cool things for your bathroom.
00:05:17.000You can check out their Dr. Carver's Easy Shave Butter and One Wipe Charlie's.
00:05:33.000You don't panic about what your underwear look like.
00:05:35.000Like, if you're out with a chick and you decide to get freaky and you have white underwear on, whoa, what a fucking crazy risk it is when you're pulling those bad boys off.
00:05:44.000You have very little idea what you're dealing with.
00:05:46.000Especially if you took a shit and then you sweated.
00:07:10.000Did they show one of those straight blades?
00:07:12.000They don't sell those fucking things, do they?
00:07:14.000Because people are just going to cut people with those bitches.
00:07:16.000People love those things for like images.
00:07:18.000Like, look, here we are at the old barbershop with a straight blade and a frothy fucking whisk broom that I'm putting the shaving cream on.
00:07:27.000How about you just use a razor that scientists figured out, you dunce?
00:08:32.000Makers of Alpha Brain, New Mood, Shroom Tech Sport.
00:08:36.000And what we are is essentially a human optimization website.
00:08:41.000It's a weird word, weird phrase to say because it doesn't really exist.
00:08:44.000We had to make it up to describe what Onit is, but that's what it is.
00:08:48.000We just sell you cool shit that works.
00:08:50.000Things that help you, whether it's help you get in better shape, things that help your mind work clearer, things that help your body recover faster, things that help you ingest snacks that aren't going to make you feel terrible about yourself, like this new warrior bar that we just started carrying, made by the same people that made the Tonka bar.
00:09:25.000And it's an ancient recipe, apparently.
00:09:30.000This is what they used to do with buffalo meat way back in the Dizzy when they hadn't figured out refrigerators yet.
00:09:37.000We're also carrying a line of hemp force protein, hemp force protein powders and hemp force protein bars.
00:09:48.000And they're bars that are made out of the finest hemp protein.
00:09:52.000We buy all of our hemp protein from Canada, unfortunately, for now.
00:09:54.000But as these laws change, we'll talk to David Seaman about this.
00:09:58.000It seems like we're going to probably be able to get a farm going in America, which will drop the cost down on all of our hemp products substantially.
00:10:06.000It's very expensive to get the highest quality hemp.
00:10:10.000There's several grades that you can get.
00:10:13.000Because we're doing everything online, we don't have a store that we send to that takes a cut out of everything.
00:10:19.000So we can give you things in the qualities and in the purity that it's very difficult to get anywhere else.
00:10:28.000The combinations of ingredients, like things like Alpha Brain.
00:10:32.000And people have found when they tried to do it by themselves, like if you want to get the same purity, you realize how much it actually costs to make these things.
00:10:39.000There's a lot of supplements that cut corners on ingredients, quality of ingredients.
00:10:45.000And what we try to do on it is just get the very best shit available by default.
00:11:24.000You know, what's the healthiest way to live your life?
00:11:28.000And what we sell at Onit is just the best shit that we can find, whether it's the best organic coconut oil, the best Himalayan salt, the purest nutrients that we can get our hands on, and the best strength and conditioning equipment.
00:12:23.000Formulating all of his positive thoughts?
00:12:25.000Yeah, after two years, he realized that he should be in the present moment.
00:12:29.000I mean, there's more to it than that, but it really took him years to fully embody, like, this is all I have is this exact moment, nothing else.
00:12:35.000Wow, and he figured it out in Vancouver.
00:13:34.000We were talking during the commercials about these new laws that are slowly being worked in where people are going to allow to have hemp farms.
00:13:41.000I'm really curious to see how they handle that.
00:14:41.000Apparently, it has something to do with using land to graze cattle on, and that this guy's been doing this forever.
00:14:50.000And he says that he's just using the land the way God intended, and it's all private, or it's all public land.
00:14:59.000And the government wants grazing fees from this guy, and they say that he owes the American taxpayers millions of dollars for grazing fees.
00:15:07.000So I don't know who's right or who's wrong.
00:15:10.000But what I do know is what they're trying to do is not handling court.
00:15:14.000They're not trying to even make a public plea for why this guy owes money.
00:15:19.000They're going there with guns and dogs and tasers, and people are freaking out.
00:15:24.000And people are rising up and they're saying, hey, listen, you assholes, when you wonder why we want to keep the Second Amendment, when you wonder why we're worried about hostile takeovers in police states, it's shit like this.
00:15:35.000You're talking about grass, you fuckheads.
00:15:38.000You're talking about cows eating grass.
00:16:29.000But she was wearing one of the headscarves, the fucking Burqa things.
00:16:33.000And I'm like, all right, if we're going to be very crass as a civilization and very cold and calculating, how many young white guys driving Toyota Corollas with their fucking mom in the car, how many of them have been responsible for terrorist attacks over the last 10, 20, or 100 years?
00:16:59.000Like, I think we have to, we don't want to go overboard with being too adversarial or too like unaccepting of the fact that nothing is going to be perfect ever.
00:17:10.000But I think if we don't put our foot down at some point and say like, enough of this bureaucratic bullshit, then it's only a matter of time before that's the situation in a grocery store parking lot.
00:17:18.000You know, and like people say that's ridiculous, but that is how Mission Creep happens.
00:17:22.000It'd be like, oh, well, the TSA needs to keep our grocery store parking lots safe because you could be shot by a psychopath and you don't want that.
00:17:30.000And it's like, where do we draw the line?
00:17:52.000And I think that that's the thing about that people don't recognize about it slowly creeping into new places.
00:17:58.000It's like all it would take is one event, whether it's at a great forum parking lot, you know, whether it's at, you know.
00:18:07.000Well, they already, the TSA wants to start arming their agent, arming their, whatever they are, their people, because of the shooting at LAX.
00:18:14.000So now we're going to go from a situation where there's pretty much nobody with guns at every airport to 20 dumbasses with guns at every airport.
00:18:21.000And you're just creating an exponentially higher risk of something going wrong.
00:18:26.000You know, somebody's going to make the wrong decision.
00:19:18.000And they go to a firing range, and they have to pass certain tests.
00:19:21.000TSA officers are like rent-a-cops, basically.
00:19:24.000Yeah, who knows what kind of stringent safety standards they have to go through, but I'm not comfortable With all those fucking dudes.
00:19:31.000I've seen too many of them that it just, some of them are really cool for sure, but I've seen too many of them where I'm like, this guy did not go through a tight filter to get here.
00:19:47.000You know, you see a lot of people that have this authoritative way of talking where they don't recognize the fact that, hey, man, you're just a person.
00:21:29.000But, you know, what would have prevented that guy from doing that?
00:21:33.000I mean, maybe if they had more security at the Boston airport or at the Boston Marathon.
00:21:39.000But really what would have prevented it is if they followed up on all the creepers.
00:21:44.000Like they had been looking at that guy for a long time.
00:21:47.000The CIA had been investigating that guy for a while.
00:21:50.000They knew that guy was a fucking piece of shit.
00:21:52.000We're a country of 300 million people, so unless we put everybody under house arrest and like, you know, padded, bubble-wrapped rooms to keep us safe, some people are going to do crazy shit.
00:22:02.000And that's what happens when you have a society where people have rights and people can have guns and people can drive cars.
00:22:07.000Like you're going to have car accidents.
00:22:08.000You're going to have people shooting people.
00:22:10.000And if you don't have that, you'll still have crazy people.
00:22:13.000The other day, there was a headline story on CNN.
00:22:15.000Some school, I forget where it was, Wisconsin maybe.
00:22:18.000There was a fucking knife thing where this guy went in in a rampage and knifed like a crazy amount of people.
00:22:27.000And we got a lot of problems in this country.
00:22:30.000We definitely have a lot of problems, but I think they're behavioral problems.
00:22:33.000It's what would cause a person to do any of those things.
00:22:37.000It's the same thing that what would cause a person to have no environmental concerns if they could profit from it.
00:22:44.000What could cause a person to release something on the market that may have potential horrific side effects without doing the kind of screening that they should do?
00:22:53.000Every time something like Vioxx slips through or these pharmaceutical drugs that give you strokes, they find out years later.
00:22:59.000Like I knew a dude who's like 30 years old, who's an MMA fighter, had a fucking stroke from taking Viox.
00:23:04.000I mean, that stuff, they pulled it, you know, they yanked it.
00:23:07.000But there's been a bunch of those things where they just said, fuck it, let it roll.
00:23:16.000I had a family member have a heart attack from adverse reaction to a drug that's relatively new.
00:23:21.000Last couple of years it came on the market.
00:23:23.000And it's still on the market, even though this is a known side effect.
00:23:26.000Like you'll see, if you Google it, you'll see like law firms soliciting victims of this issue.
00:23:33.000And I guess whatever being countered there decided that it would be massively expensive to rein in the drug and admit that we're at fault.
00:23:39.000So instead we're just going to say, you know, this is the risk of using this medication.
00:23:44.000It's insane to me that I still see commercials for this drug on TV and like know that it's responsible for giving a family member a heart attack.
00:24:06.000It's not like you saw the ads for mesothelioma and nobody actually has it.
00:24:10.000This is something where like you get prescribed this instead of the one that's tried and true and that hospitals have been using for decades with very known risk profile.
00:24:20.000This one replaces that and because it's under patent, they make more money and they claim it's more efficient, which it may be, but it also has this small chance of really fucking you over.
00:25:21.000They're trying to make money and push aside this extremely cheap drug that costs like nothing, like a dollar, and has been used in hospitals for 100 years.
00:25:30.000And they want to replace that blood thinner with this new one, which is not all that tried and true.
00:25:34.000and it's just, you know, it's gone through the FDA process, but then shit happens.
00:25:37.000And I don't know how I got off on this tangent, It's a thinking and behavior problem that people are willing to put money over humanity or that people are willing to commit horrific crimes.
00:25:56.000Like, what is it that causes someone to be able to Run through a school and stab a bunch of kids.
00:27:11.000And so I would much rather see us, you know, why don't those people do something that actually helps the community, plant trees instead of harassing people at an airport?
00:27:21.000Or, you know, we don't want to militarize our schools because then every day you're going into school and subconsciously you're like, am I a fucking prisoner?
00:27:29.000Like, why are there guards around here?
00:27:30.000It's supposed to be a voluntary thing where I'm coming for knowledge and to interact with other people my age and learn something about the world and then go home.
00:27:48.000It's like, is it going to get to a point where it's just the only thing that's different is that people haven't figured out that they can attack people at stadiums or figured out that they can attack people at the mall?
00:27:59.000I mean, once those things start happening on a regular basis, there really will be some sort of a lockdown in the parking lot where you're going to have to show your VIN number and they're going to have to read your DNA.
00:28:09.000Yeah, it was really when somebody says, I need your VIN number, it just feels so invasive because they're like, we own you.
00:28:18.000I realize that they need to do it because they don't want somebody putting an explosive device in a car that doesn't have a license plate.
00:28:23.000Like, I totally understand the logic, but just as an individual who goes to airports fairly often, it's dehumanizing, and there's no proof that this makes us safer.
00:28:32.000Yeah, there's no proof that this makes us safer.
00:28:34.000And the actual numbers of terrorist attacks, like not taking anything away from the horrific nature of 9-11 or the Boston bombings or anything.
00:28:43.000The numbers of those things taking place in comparison to the numbers of human beings is quite staggering.
00:28:50.000I mean, there are very few terrorist attacks, and goddamn, there's a lot of people.
00:28:55.000There's 300 million fucking people in this country, not including transients, not including vacationers from other countries, not including illegal aliens.
00:29:07.000We really don't know what the full number is because many Mexicans are good at crossing that border.
00:29:34.000Go to one taco truck next to a car wash.
00:29:36.000There's like a thousand Mexican people there.
00:29:39.000But speaking of Mexican immigrants, this is one of my issues with the media is right now, they would have us believe that the two biggest problems facing all of us, gay marriage and illegal immigration.
00:29:51.000Well, the right about one thing is fucking queer is itching up.
00:29:55.000On the way over here, the freeway was backed up because there was a wedding right in the middle of the freeway.
00:29:59.000All these gays just getting married right and left, destroying our way of life.
00:30:03.000Yeah, they were sucking each other off right before they got married.
00:30:06.000They don't even believe in the sanctity of marriage in a gay household.
00:30:10.000They don't abstain before they get married?
00:31:01.000But the illegal immigration thing, it's like, if we want to solve this, instead of putting all these Judge Dredd Border Patrol people along the border, which I don't think is a terrible idea because we do need some border protection, but it's enormously expensive.
00:32:13.000because I think as long as you're not on the Interpol list and you're not wanted for something, you should just be able to go wherever you want.
00:32:18.000As long as it's an allied country, you shouldn't need a passport that's valid because it's like...
00:32:26.000Yeah, I mean, I guess you need some kind of system, but I think it can be done with what they have already.
00:32:31.000Like they know what you're doing at every second of the day.
00:32:33.000This is what's so Orwellian and fucked up.
00:32:35.000It's like yesterday was tax day and we saw all this stuff like make sure you file your taxes on time.
00:32:42.000Like what kind of mind bender is this?
00:32:44.000We know that the NSA is sharing data with agencies like the IRS, giving them, you know, we know that they're sharing financial data with those kinds of agencies.
00:32:51.000And the IRS knows exactly how much you owe because they get the 1099s every year from the people who pay you more than $600.
00:32:59.000Why don't they just send you a fucking bill?
00:33:00.000And then if there's a problem, you can dispute it the same as a credit card bill.
00:33:04.000Instead of like, I've got a guess to make sure that I'm paying the right amount.
00:33:07.000And if I don't match their number, they go, uh-uh-uh, we have right here.
00:33:11.000Even Donald Rumsfeld, who I consider to be the closest thing to like the man that's out there, tweeted out the other day about how the IRS is just out of control.
00:33:59.000Like if we lived in Washington State or if we lived in Vegas or I think Texas as well, Florida, a few places, you don't have to pay the state taxes.
00:35:30.000I still think Obama, the other day I was in Venice Beach getting lunch and I got a beer and a burger and enjoyed something that's known to the state of California to have medicinal benefit.
00:35:40.000And I looked up in the, whatever this place was, this restaurant, and right over the door was a picture of Obama from his Hawaii days.
00:35:47.000He had the hat on and he was smoking a doobie.
00:35:49.000And for like a half a second, I thought, that's my guy right there.
00:35:58.000We got somebody who can come onto the tonight show or the view or something and just have the hosts eating out of his hand by the end of the interview.
00:36:07.000So he's much smarter and more eloquent, but is still doing a lot of the crazy shit that Bush was doing.
00:36:12.000And I think that he could still kind of like, what's the word I'm looking for?
00:36:17.000Like come out ahead and like still come across as a good president if you were to just legalize weed at the federal level.
00:36:25.000I think most people be like, oh, okay, he actually did something meaningful that will be around 50 years from now.
00:36:30.000And it's not just like, I'm going to find the shit out of you if you don't sign up for my healthcare website.
00:36:35.000And I've done more drone strikes than any other president in history.
00:36:39.000I've allowed NSA programs to expand and said almost nothing in response.
00:36:44.000Even with all that shit, which I think is awful, legalize weed at the federal level.
00:36:49.000And I would rate him as a good president.
00:38:10.000He was smoking in office, at least his first term, and that job is so stressful, there's no way you're quitting smoking while you're a president.
00:39:41.000And that they, when a corporation starts acting like that sort of money generating machine, and that's the bottom line, is it always has to continue to generate money no matter what, they come up with all sorts of compromises, compromise of ethics, compromises of morals, just so that they can figure out a way to continue to raise that bottom line, keep that money coming in.
00:40:02.000And I think essentially the government at a certain point becomes that.
00:40:06.000I mean, it's what Eisenhower warned about when he was leaving office, the military-industrial complex taking over.
00:40:11.000And even if it's not the direct reason why something happens, even if it wasn't a financial reason why there is a military action and why we go to war, once we're there and the money is pouring in to these contractors, the money's pouring into weapons manufacturers, the money's pouring in.
00:40:34.000Cutting that money off and having a justification, you're going to get resistance.
00:40:38.000And you're going to get resistance from incredibly powerful people with incredibly influential ties that have a lot of fucking money.
00:41:02.000And it's because of what you just said that these powerful people want their budgets to remain at least where they are and probably much larger in the future because they have people on their payroll and they want to keep those TSA jobs.
00:41:14.000They want to keep those NSA analyst jobs.
00:41:18.000So it's all, I think it's like 80% about money.
00:41:21.000And all this shit is funded because the government is printing its own money.
00:41:26.000And then that's what we use as currency.
00:41:28.000And I really don't think that, so if the issue is structural and not personality, in other words, like Obama is not responsible for all the problems in this country because a lot of this shit started under Bush.
00:41:42.000So if it's not personality driven, the problem, and it's just structure-driven, the only way you'll see change is to change the structure itself.
00:41:51.000Do you think that as new people come into government, that that same structure is going to keep, is going to stay in the same form?
00:42:24.000And then there's Ron Wyden, who's older, but still to me seems like he's an honest guy.
00:42:29.000So I can think of three people between the Congress and Senate who I would trust to actually represent everyday people's interests.
00:42:36.000Do you think that it's even necessary to have a government that's established and set up the way we have it today with representatives when the access to communication is so instantaneous?
00:42:47.000It's like the whole idea of having a senator or having a congressman or having a representative is like there was no way for the people to just go and individually talk and give their opinions on things.
00:43:27.000But I think the founding fathers, we always assumed that a representative democracy was put into place because of the technical limitations.
00:43:35.000Like you just said, it's impossible to get everybody to D.C. to tally up where their votes would lie.
00:43:40.000So instead we use representatives and we send them.
00:43:43.000And we assume that that's the only reason why they chose this structure.
00:43:55.000Like Reddit, 95% of the time is on top of its shit and is a great source of information.
00:44:00.000What about the 5% of the time where they find the wrong fucking suspect for the Boston bombing?
00:44:05.000That shit goes to the front page and some guy's life is ruined for the next six months or possibly forever.
00:44:09.000You know, he's never going to be able to get a job because you Google that name.
00:44:12.000First thing you see is Boston bombing suspect.
00:44:15.000Even if he's cleared, you don't want to hire that person.
00:44:18.000And that's a case where the crowd mind fucks up.
00:44:21.000And if we give everybody instant access to real say in government, first of all, I think it's a good idea because I think overall the good wins out over the bullshit.
00:44:30.000But I'm just trying to give an example of, I think, why they chose that representative system.
00:44:37.000I think that's definitely a valid point is that there are dumb people and they can gather together and it gets fucking terrifying when you're just dealing with a one person, one vote sort of a paradigm.
00:44:47.000Did you see what's going on in Reddit where people are being outed as being paid posters and paid shills to post in these conspiracy theory sites?
00:45:36.000I think the original intent was to not have the whole page filled with basically the same story.
00:45:42.000Like, if there's a big NSA revelation, you have 10 articles and it's all the same content, but just like different people saying the same thing.
00:45:49.000I think that was the original intent, but it's also like, why don't you let Reddit do Reddit?
00:45:54.000Like, the whole point is good content gets upvoted.
00:45:57.000People aren't interested, they'll get rid of it on their own.
00:48:34.000We don't, like, honestly, like, how do we know that a technology mod is not some shill for the fossil fuel industry who just doesn't want to see Tesla rise to the top?
00:50:37.000I think it's important to have guys like that who are willing to speak out for things that are really important instead of just taking the money and being like, I'm just going to go fuck hot models and live on...
00:50:55.000Well, he's a young idealist who's really smart and he figured out a way to make a shitload of money, came up with a cool thing, and he's kind of continuing along that same trajectory.
00:51:05.000And people like me definitely notice that.
00:51:08.000I'm sure in 10 years, he's going to be doing even bigger stuff.
00:51:12.000And I think we'll respect the fact that he spoke out when a lot of cowards at companies like, well, I don't need to alienate myself, but companies, like big tech companies, they're not saying shit.
00:51:23.000Not only that, we find out that they cooperated with the NSA and gave them backdoors to technology and software.
00:51:29.000And it's very, very frustrating because you want to think about, I think that one of the unique aspects of technology is the morality that sort of inherently goes with super intelligent people.
00:51:40.000That there's so much goddamn money in technology that people, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:52:10.000You never hear that kind of a motto attached to a gas company.
00:52:15.000Meanwhile, gas companies make more money than anybody.
00:52:17.000This new technology and the new money that's coming out of technology is generated by intensely creative and intelligent people.
00:52:27.000And I think what we're seeing from those people, as opposed to just money grubbers, people that try to, like, something that's not as complex as technology, sort of doesn't have the same thought process behind it.
00:52:42.000There's not as much introspective thinking.
00:52:44.000There's not as much ethical calculations.
00:52:47.000It's a different way of looking at the world that I think is being presented by tech companies that, in my opinion, is very promising.
00:52:57.000Because I think it gives you a lot of hope for the future when you see, like, this is a trend.
00:53:01.000It's a very obvious trend, in my opinion, that these guys are more ethical and more moral and more conscious.
00:53:10.000It's a more optimistic view of the world.
00:53:12.000And I think if you're a recent person entering the workforce for the first time and you're looking at jobs online, really hold out and don't go for the shitty defense contractor that you know is doing evil stuff.
00:53:24.000Go instead for the company that is creating cool apps or creating new efficiencies and payments or whatever it is that you're interested in.
00:53:32.000Do that instead because technology can go in so many different directions.
00:53:37.000You don't want to be the person creating the marketing for the next fucking range of drones.
00:53:41.000You want to be the person working at Google or even Microsoft and just creating better search because even things like that create more of a positive impact on humanity than I think almost anything else.
00:53:52.000And I think that the rest of the world is slowly but surely forcing America to catch the fuck up on a lot of our archaic shit.
00:56:27.000And we continue to play it because it's more efficient than anything else.
00:56:30.000But I think you do need to have referees who say, okay, so we're playing this game where you can make a lot of money if you do something that's more efficient than anybody else.
00:56:38.000Or you do it cooler, or you do it faster.
00:56:40.000But if you're fucking up a shared resource, then that's where the government steps in and tells you you can't do this and you have to pay this and you have to fix this because the environment is not owned by corporations.
00:56:52.000It's actually owned by citizens of the United States and it's owned by citizens of whatever country you happen to be in.
00:56:57.000Like your land is your land and we all have the shared air.
00:57:02.000Like what happens in Japan with their fucked up nuclear reactors affects the sushi here in Los Angeles, at least in theory.
00:57:08.000So we have to have a more global mindset.
00:57:10.000I know right now, just by saying global mindset, there are at least 10 people saying that I'm like a Bilderberg one world order shill or something.
00:57:17.000But really it's fucking stupid to not go more global when everything already is.
00:57:22.000It's like right now we're already a global society, but we allow corporations to take advantage of the loopholes and pretend like we're not global.
00:57:30.000Well, I think that if the internet continues its path right now, the path that we're on right now of the distribution of information, of connecting everybody together, it's going to seem more and more ridiculous that there's nations.
00:57:46.000It's going to seem more and more ridiculous that there's places that are lines in the dirt that you can't cross through.
00:58:04.000And I think that as we connect with each other more and more and the idea of nations become more and more ridiculous, then the ideas of, oh, like this place owns the resources, like if Ohio, we had to all pay Ohio because that's where all the water came from.
00:58:46.000Well, that's again why the digital money thing I think is the first step in actually changing this system because the structure will stay the same.
00:58:54.000If we continue to do all the same stuff, 100 years from now, we'll still have countries and passports and drones and all the rest of this shit.
00:59:02.000The only way is to rethink really fundamental parts of what we're doing.
00:59:06.000And if we do that, it just changes where the money comes from and it reallocates it to better things.
00:59:11.000I think that individuals are better deciders of how to spend money than a government agency.
01:01:49.000We're going to make more money this way.
01:01:50.000This way we're going to force people to buy, hey, we're going to have more subscriptions.
01:01:53.000We want more of this and more of that.
01:01:55.000Don't people out there wonder why the insurance companies were so supportive of what was supposed to be a huge reform of their industry?
01:02:01.000It's because in exchange, Obama's like, you're going to have a captive audience of every single citizen is now required to buy your product.
01:02:07.000It's like, what do you think would happen to the price of iPhones if you were required by law to have one on you at all times?
01:02:13.000It's really the opposite of socialized medicine.
01:02:16.000It's like a disgusting, like sort of a twist on that system.
01:02:20.000Like the idea that the government or that the people's taxes, like all the money that we pay in California, this 10% tax thing, state tax, if that went to free health care, I would be super supportive of it.
01:02:31.000If we found out that the reason why California pays state taxes is that everybody who lives in state tax, in California rather, has free health care.
01:04:22.000Well, there's some validation to it, too.
01:04:25.000I mean, I think the idea isn't that it would necessarily keep people from interacting with each other.
01:04:32.000What it would do is keep people from being forced to be slaves to a system, stuck in a box, learning 50 in a class, one unmotivated teacher, totally ineffective way of going about it.
01:04:44.000But the big thing about school is that social interaction.
01:04:48.000It's where you learn how to talk to girls.
01:06:10.000Yeah, I read the article, and it was like he had been saying for a while, like, I want to kill Jews.
01:06:16.000And if somebody is literally thinking the same things as Hitler, like, maybe, maybe somebody should take note of that and bring that guy in for a psychological evaluation.
01:06:25.000Yeah, have a little sit-down with Homeboy and find out how serious he is about this project.
01:06:28.000Yeah, and since the NSA is already logging all our stuff, maybe you check his credit card records.
01:07:16.000If you look at your own history, you ever try to look at your own history because you're trying to look for a website that you saw that you forgot to bookmark and you go through your own history like, oh, so much.
01:07:27.000The amount of shit that we're exposed to today as opposed to our grandparents is just unbelievable.
01:07:34.000I would love to see if they could go back in time and take a guy from the 1900s, like 1919, take him and put electrodes on his brain and find out like what kind of, what gets stimulated during a regular day, a regular eight-hour day.
01:07:50.000And then take a guy from 2014 in Manhattan.
01:07:54.000Same program, run it on his brain and find out what's going on in his brain.
01:07:58.000I bet one of them looks like a firefly buzzing around a campfire and the other one looks like a fireworks display, like the grand finale of Disneyland.
01:08:09.000The amount of information just slamming into your fucking synapses.
01:08:14.000It's just, we're not designed for this, man.
01:08:17.000So I think part of what we're doing when we're trying to manage civilization is we're trying to catch up to all this shit that's happened that's been erupting all around us.
01:08:28.000We're like, that, and then there's this, and then fucking, that's what I'm saying.
01:08:34.000That's how the government's been responding to Bitcoin recently.
01:08:37.000It's like if you look at an internet meme of a dumb dog, like some dumb, oblivious dog, governments and like some of these big vested banks that have been around forever are on the railroad tracks, this dumbass dog looking at a train coming in their direction.
01:08:52.000And they're like, is this something that's going to affect me?
01:08:55.000It's like, and it's not just any train.
01:08:56.000It's a fucking bullet train moving at 350 miles an hour.
01:08:58.000And whenever that train hits the dog, it's not even going to feel it.
01:09:02.000It's going to be just an explosion of disgusting flesh and fur.
01:09:05.000But that's what they're at right now is a combination of curiosity, a bit of animosity, and like, how is this going to affect us?
01:09:12.000It's like, it'd be like record companies looking at Napster and going, this is interesting.
01:09:16.000Is this going to affect our bottom line at all?
01:09:18.000Well, it's also just the sheer amount of different things that you would have to pay attention to to truly manage.
01:09:25.000Like the idea of being a president in 1919 was a really rational idea.
01:09:31.000You could have a guy who would manage our budget and the military and this guy's assigned to do defense and this is, you know.
01:10:40.000When we try to look at the idea of exponential growth, like I talked to Ray Kurzweil about that, and he was talking to me about the criticisms that he's been given about this idea of the singularity, about technological singularity, that there's going to be some sort of technology that's so groundbreaking that it changes humanity and reality as we know it.
01:11:01.000And it's probably right around the corner.
01:11:50.000His opinion is studying all of these different graphs and looking at the exponential growth of technologies, trying to figure out like when it's all going to come to a head.
01:12:46.000And you type anything into it and it tells you the answer or it helps you out, but it has just no interest in either harming humanity or helping us.
01:12:57.000The problem, the real issue with artificial intelligence is if someone is so compelled to create an artificial human being and gives us all of the components that a human being has, all the flaws as well.
01:13:09.000Emotions, all the jealousy, all the nonsense.
01:13:18.000I mean, are you creating a complete psycho with no remorse and no compassion if you create an artificial person that's ruthlessly intelligent but is not concerned whatsoever about pain and suffering?
01:13:29.000And what if it's so smart that it recognizes, hey, look, people don't live forever anyway.
01:13:59.000If that, I mean, you know, I think that we're probably at least on the verge of a new member of our world that we're going to have to consider.
01:14:15.000I think this idea of artificial intelligence is completely unavoidable.
01:14:20.000It's just as unavoidable as the moment that the guy figured out a wagon wheel and the other guy figured out an engine and they started going, huh, huh, huh?
01:14:29.000If we put that in there and get something to make those things, how would you get the wheels to spin?
01:14:34.000We need like a thing that connects to the end.
01:15:15.000We're going to take someone's, you know, we're going to take, what we did is we decided to take memories, generic memories, from happy people ages one through 60 and just create a 60-year-old professor, an artificial guy who's lived a long life of wisdom, and we're going to have him interact with people just to blow their fucking minds.
01:15:36.000And meanwhile, you know, someone tells him, you know, that they made you just a week ago.
01:15:49.000We watched some fake 60-year-old cry and then cut his throat.
01:15:52.000He reaches and grabs one of those straight razors from dollarshave.com and fucking it's pointless because he realizes it and sparks come flying out and then he really freaks out because he knows there's no blood.
01:16:03.000Did somebody post that article to the technology subreddit, but it's instantly removed?
01:16:07.000And someone comes in and kicks his head off and yells out, World Star, World Star.
01:16:12.000And technology shows that as well and it becomes the number one video the internet ever sees ever.
01:16:18.000And then he goes into porn, robot porn with a sliced neck because his dick never goes soft.
01:16:40.000If it's really doing calculations and realizing how ridiculous we are.
01:16:44.000And it also might eliminate us because it goes, okay, if humans are allowed to continue surviving, there's a non-zero chance that they will eventually wipe us out.
01:16:54.000They'll either destroy the Earth or they will for some reason decide to turn us off at some point.
01:16:59.000And so because there's that non-zero chance that they will eliminate us, we have to eliminate them first.
01:17:04.000And then you get like a Battlestar Galactica kind of thing where they actually want to kill humans just because they essentially live forever.
01:17:13.000So they don't want a situation where in 500 years we're so advanced that we're advanced and we decide that artificial intelligence is evil for some reason.
01:17:22.000Maybe we have some new religious leader and we turn it off.
01:17:29.000It's going to be the Unibomber followers who said he's ahead of his time.
01:17:32.000I mean, that's what Kaczynski thought.
01:17:34.000He thought that technology was our enemy.
01:17:36.000He was the enemy of the human race and he was trying to actively stop technology by attacking and killing the people that were responsible for innovation.
01:17:45.000I mean, it's a really crazy thought that maybe in his wacky LSD mind that he had a point, that he really saw it all coming.
01:17:56.000And he saw, he extrapolated the future and he said, oh my God, we keep Going along at this same rate, there's not going to be any apple pie.
01:18:03.000There's not going to be any Norman Rockwell paintings.
01:18:05.000I think he was just a crazy person, and I think a lot of crazy people can see like a very small part of the picture, and that's why they're crazy.
01:18:25.000It's a foreign documentary in subtitles.
01:18:28.000But it's all documenting Ted Kaczynski's part in the Harvard LSD studies where they just dosed the shit out of kids and found out what it did for them.
01:18:38.000He went to Berkeley after that, taught at Berkeley, and used all of his money to fucking build this cabin in the woods and then plot his war against civilization and innovation.
01:19:19.000They go through YouTube videos and they'll tag stuff as being their copyright, their property.
01:19:24.000Even if it's just a video that I made in my apartment where the background is my couch, all of the words are my own words coming out of my own mouth recorded by me.
01:19:32.000And this is what I send to YouTube every time I get one of these complaints from these content troll companies.
01:19:37.000I go, how is it physically possible that they own any of this content?
01:19:43.000They always end up reversing it, but it takes me time to do that.
01:19:46.000And what they're hoping is that a certain percentage of people won't take the time, and then they make a small amount of money off your videos.
01:19:52.000That's really fascinating that someone's decided to be that much of a cunt.
01:19:56.000That they're going to pretend that you, in your office or wherever you're doing this thing, that you somehow or another are stealing their work.
01:20:16.000It's amazing that they think that they can do that, or that they think that somehow or another that's justified.
01:20:20.000Do you think they're randomly selecting people or they're purposely finding people that have a high number of videos, high number of views?
01:20:28.000If I were to say anything, it would just be complete speculation.
01:20:37.000Yeah, I'm always fascinated by when you go to a website and you're entering in information, they give you that weird scrambled letter thing that you have to decipher.
01:21:18.000Yeah, but if you're a Google-type database, or you can have the algorithm go to Google and answer the question, like if you say something into Google, it has it in a tenth of a second.
01:21:56.000Yeah, but then if they were to search Google, it'd probably be like George Washington is a, like it wouldn't know to just stop, I guess, maybe.
01:22:41.000We don't want to say Siri the porn star, because there's a porn star named Siri.
01:22:44.000Do you remember when there were cheesy infomercials on about that software product where you put on the microphone and instead of typing, it would read your words and you'd be able to type a document that way?
01:23:42.000I think that I write better because when I actually physically use the keyboard, it's because I'm giving a lot of thought and consideration to each one of these words.
01:23:52.000Because it takes me a lot longer to type out the word consideration than it does to have that concept in my mind.
01:24:00.000That concept in my mind goes in and out.
01:24:02.000And there's both, like the rants that you would come up with on a podcast, you probably would never write that way because you're in sort of this frantic flowing thing where one idea feeds into the next and there's steam behind them.
01:24:17.000But when you're writing and you're really considering every single sentence and going back over it and going back over the, is that the best way to phrase this?
01:26:18.000Well, is there any rational explanation for why Apple has chosen to do that?
01:26:23.000I think, I mean, there are two reasons.
01:26:26.000One is that they make a tremendous amount of money from saving your credit card info, and then every time you decide you want to buy a song or you want to buy an app, it goes through their system.
01:26:35.000And I think they're worried that if they open up the floodgates to Bitcoin, they lose that 30% that they're making.
01:27:11.000I didn't even think of that, but I bet you're dead right.
01:27:13.000With their iTunes store for movies, the iTunes store for music, that's probably a considerable chunk of revenue that could very well be swept away with Bitcoin.
01:27:22.000If someone came up with an application that allowed artists to sell their music directly with Bitcoin, no iTunes, and then someone manages another application that ports it into iTunes.
01:27:37.000We're going to see some really weird stuff in the next couple of years.
01:27:39.000We're going to see banks where it's just a bunch of Bitcoin users funding the bank, and then the bank decides who to loan money to.
01:27:46.000So then you'll have a situation where instead of going to Chase or Wells Fargo, you'll just go to the guy down the street who owns his own community bank and it'll be run by Bitcoin so you know that the money he claims he has is actually there because you can verify it.
01:28:00.000The picture in five years is going to look so weird compared to today.
01:28:04.000The idea of driving up to an ATM machine in five years is going to be the same as walking in a blockbuster and picking up a VHS tape.
01:28:10.000It's just not going to be something people need to do.
01:28:12.000So you think that all money will be digital currency in a certain amount of time?
01:28:17.000I think, and I realize it's kind of a bold prediction, but you get to a point where there's no turning back.
01:28:33.000And then slowly over time, more and more of your friends got the flat screens until eventually even your friends who don't have any money and are not up on tech trends, you walk into their house and it's a brand new Samsung.
01:28:47.000That seems to be the trend in anything.
01:28:49.000Well, innovation always stomps out the old stupid shit.
01:28:53.000Yeah, I mean, I can't guarantee that Bitcoin will be the first one.
01:28:55.000In fact, it's possible that it won't be the one that takes off finally because if you look at operating systems, it was Xerox Labs created one of the first visual operating systems.
01:29:07.000And Steve Jobs was taking a tour of the Xerox park because they had told him, like, you got to check this out.
01:29:55.000And I think it could be the same situation with this where Bitcoin blazed the trail and maybe it'll always have a place in the same way that Apple has always had a place and now it's a very big place.
01:30:05.000So we'll have like multiple alternative currencies to choose from.
01:30:10.000You're going to have like three or four currencies and you're going to use them for different things.
01:30:13.000Like if you're tipping, if you're tipping a podcast, you might use Bitcoin, but if you're at a strip club, you might use some other coin for some other reason.
01:30:23.000You know what someone's got to do, though?
01:30:24.000Someone's got to make it treason if you interfere with this.
01:30:28.000Like if you try to sabotage these digital currencies and stop innovation because you're worried that whatever company you're doing or whatever thing you're doing is going to somehow or another be impacted by it, it should be treasonous.
01:30:41.000The idea that you could come in, like they're going to have government agents that are coming in and sabotaging Bitcoin, buying and selling and stealing and collecting into it.
01:30:49.000The IRS has already ruled that it's property.
01:30:51.000So if you have any government agency that tries to damage the network, then you're damaging your own citizens' property and that is illegal.
01:31:00.000That's one of the most basic tenets of American capitalism is we protect property rights here.
01:31:05.000It might not happen in countries in South America that you get a new dictator, everybody's property gets taken over.
01:31:22.000That means there's a giant grand theft took place where $300 million in property was stolen.
01:31:27.000That was a fat dumbass who programmed his site in the wrong language and got a lot of market share because he was one of the first people there.
01:31:34.000And if you look at just traditional money, U.S. dollars and Euros, it attracts a lot of criminals.
01:31:41.000Surprise when you're dealing with billions of dollars, the kinds of people who are attracted to that, some of them are honest, some of them are not.
01:31:48.000And how many failures have we had within the dollar?
01:31:50.000We had, what was it, Lehman Brothers went under.
01:31:53.000Bear Stearns had to be bought out by Chase for like pennies on the dollar or like two bucks a share or something.
01:32:00.000Like scams related to money are nothing new.
01:32:03.000And that's not going to go away with Bitcoin.
01:32:04.000It's just that now we're going to have a little bit more accountability.
01:32:07.000And I personally just like to see these old fucks in Davos.
01:32:13.000I like to see them sweat a little bit for the first time because they have given my generation more than a trillion dollars of student loan debt that we can't pay off.
01:32:21.000And when I say we, I'm just talking about like everybody.
01:32:23.000I don't have any student loan debt, but they've done that.
01:32:26.000We're all pretty much indentured servants to these zombie banks, which if you look into them as people like Matt Taebi have done, they're semi-insolvent.
01:33:26.000I'm really curious to see what happens and really curious to see what the blowback is going to be.
01:33:31.000What sort of federal attack on Bitcoin?
01:33:36.000And you have a really good point that there's always been corruption as far as regular money goes, as far as accepted conventional money goes.
01:33:43.000There's always been massive amounts of corruption.
01:33:45.000There's always been massive amounts of theft.
01:34:02.000And so if you ignore all the political implications and that's all you focus on, do you want to have a technology where there's a really good chance of chargeback fraud, which is the case with credit cards, or a rubber check with checks?
01:35:19.000Because there's actually a lot of money that's supposed to go into Bitcoin over the summer, institutional money, when Second Market comes online, which is supposed to be like the first really credible exchange that big banks would be comfortable using.
01:36:56.000By the way, all my kind of political rabble-rousing about how Bitcoin will change the landscape, I just want to put in a kind of disclaimer that in five years, you might still see a chase in Bank of America because there's a chance that if they see it taking off fast enough, they'll adopt it.
01:37:13.000Because for them, it's just a new payment technology.
01:37:18.000They could just as easily issue a Bitcoin debit card and base it off of that network and find a way to make money off of it by providing people the security of you're not dealing with some fat ass in Japan.
01:37:41.000This is such an interesting time to be alive because there's so much going on and there's so much change and there's so many people that are wondering like, which way is it going to go and people that are looking at it in a negative way and people that are looking at it promising.
01:37:56.000Well, what's really cool to think about, if you look at where a lot of the money came from in Silicon Valley for these really innovative companies we're seeing today, it started with PayPal where Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, I think a couple of other guys, Max something, made billions of dollars off of their PayPal venture because PayPal was at the time a challenge to the status quo.
01:38:19.000It was you don't need an expensive merchant, whatever that thing was that merchants had to have, to process credit cards, a merchant account.
01:38:37.000So we're overdue for kind of a new challenge to the status quo.
01:38:41.000And my point is that when PayPal happened, it made a lot of people rich.
01:38:45.000And that money ended up getting invested in things that have nothing to do with currency.
01:38:48.000It was invested in Tesla and SpaceX and all these next generation companies.
01:38:54.000And we'll probably see the same thing now.
01:38:56.000We'll see people get rich off of this.
01:38:57.000And then that money, since they're young and not compromised old people, will go into really bizarre things where the dividend is just going to be massive.
01:39:06.000What I was getting at is that there's a lot of folks that look at the possibilities in the future and look at it all, and they see only negative.
01:39:15.000And that was our friend Michael Rupert, who he somehow or another, a couple days ago, committed suicide by a gunshot, allegedly.
01:39:28.000I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that think he was murdered.
01:39:31.000There always is going to be on those things, but I know he wasn't a happy guy.
01:39:35.000And if you look at the way he looked at the world, I mean, everything he saw, if you saw that movie collapse, it's him sitting there chain smoking, talking about the end.
01:39:44.000And it's incredibly compelling because he was a very articulate guy.
01:39:58.000And he was wrong about a lot of things.
01:40:00.000He was wrong about a lot of predictions.
01:40:01.000He was wrong about a lot of his thoughts on peak oil and a lot of other things that he thought were going to come to a conclusion in our, you know, just the last decade and just fuck everything up.
01:41:15.000You should always go on because the circumstances always change.
01:41:18.000Maybe, but Hunter S. Thompson was done.
01:41:20.000Well, that's the thing about that guy.
01:41:22.000A lot of his issue, I think, was physical pain, and that's different.
01:41:25.000That's one of the not that I have any say over what people do or really even care, but that's one of, for me, morally, it's where I think that suicide is okay.
01:41:35.000Like, if you're in so much pain and you've pursued every avenue and modern medicine can't help you reduce that pain, and it's physical pain rather than just mental pain, then I don't really have a problem with it.
01:41:46.000I think even in Switzerland now, there's some kind of assisted suicide program.
01:42:27.000We need way more mental health counseling everywhere.
01:42:32.000We need a lot more thought into whatever it is that's wrong with people that causes them to be massively depressed.
01:42:40.000A lot more thought into, is it just the way we live our lives?
01:42:44.000Is it just the idea of sitting in some fucking office doing some mundane job that you hate, being stuck in this traffic where you feel completely out of control?
01:42:56.000You don't have any control over your environment.
01:42:58.000You're just stuck in this mass of people who are also doing the same thing, and you look around and no one seems to be happy.
01:43:18.000There's all these things that needs to be considered.
01:43:20.000There's a lot of what we're doing is not well thought out.
01:43:24.000There's a lot of what we're doing in society that's not the most intelligent, innovative, creative way to go about it.
01:43:33.000Yeah, I agree, but I think that a lot of these problems have always been a part of the human experience, and we just have to learn how to deal with it and get each other through it.
01:43:43.000Because I don't think the, I used to think like, oh, if I want to be happier, I have to just reduce the amount of stress in my life.
01:43:48.000But the things I'm doing, I enjoy doing.
01:44:11.000And that's where you get these tragedies: people no longer have anybody else to do the feedback loop.
01:44:17.000Because a lot of shit is like, if that guy, I don't know anything about that guy, so I don't want to speak as if I do.
01:44:22.000But if he had somebody who could tell him, you know, yeah, that's terrible what you're saying about the government, but 2,000 years ago, they were crucifying people, and now they just drag activists through the court system.
01:44:33.000And I'm not saying that's a good thing.
01:44:34.000You don't want to put people in jail on bullshit charges.
01:44:36.000It's a little bit better than crucifying people you don't like.
01:44:39.000And if you look at the trend that humanity's on, it's an improving trend.
01:45:36.000There's a lot of potential for disaster.
01:45:38.000There's a lot of potential for catastrophe that's man-made, man-created, whether it's nuclear or war or whatever it is that could be terror.
01:45:48.000I think it was on one of your podcasts recently where you said that the Fukushima response, they covered it up like a little child who had done something wrong.
01:46:28.000Wasn't that one of the ideas of blowing it up?
01:46:30.000That way it would seal the well somehow or another?
01:46:33.000Well, there's also like, there are all these beautiful parts of the world that have been irradiated from our nuclear tests back when we didn't know what we were doing.
01:46:41.000It's like the French military and the U.S. military were just picking beautiful deserted islands, which today would be worth, you know, today would be the places that Richard Branson hangs out in.
01:46:50.000But instead, they're just these desolate test sites.
01:46:54.000It's so gross and dumb that we did that in the first place.
01:46:56.000Have you ever seen that animated GIF of all of the nuclear explosions that have gone off in the world?
01:47:03.000Last time you showed me, I think, population.
01:52:42.000We just need a little bit of radiation in the air.
01:52:45.000I used to think that maybe cigarettes were probably, when I was competing, I used to think that cigarettes may be like a workout for your lungs.
01:52:52.000That if you could lift a little weights with your lungs, like if you smoked cigarettes, that your lungs would have to fight against the cigarette smoke and it'd be like lifting weights.
01:53:04.000But it's not too far off from those air trainers, like those oxygen things where you're supposed to suck on those, like boss routines had that air trainer, H2O trainer.
01:53:21.000Like there was a Victor Conte video on hypoxia, which is real similar.
01:53:25.000They're doing like heavy, high endurance training, high-intensity endurance training, and they do it with like restricted breathing.
01:53:32.000So I don't know who's right about that.
01:53:34.000Altitude is supposed to be where it's at.
01:53:37.000Like sleeping in altitude, but working out in an area where it's got plenty of oxygen.
01:53:43.000So that seems contrary to me because the idea is to not restrict your oxygen intake while you're exercising, but restricting it while you're resting.
01:57:25.000And completely makes sense with these Canadian wolves because they're big as fuck, whereas the American wolves were smaller.
01:57:31.000They just were always like, you know, 60, 70 pounds, whatever.
01:57:33.000So when they brought over these big-ass fucking wolves from Canada and they have that DNA in them, the big ass wolf DNA, these just decimating elk and deer populations in areas where they're at.
01:57:47.000And they've reinstituted hunting on them now.
01:57:50.000So they brought them in, and now they've got hunting and trapping, and people in Alaska and a lot of parts of North America where they have a lot of wolves, they have wolf season now.
01:58:15.000Listen, man, if you were a rancher and you watched a super PAC like they've had in Siberia, you know, Siberia has a legitimate wolf problem.
01:58:23.000And Siberia at one point in time, you know the story of World War I, the wolf thing with the Germans and the Russians?
01:58:47.000And so they would find like these bodies, like, you know, with their boots on and a foot and their boot, you know, and everything else just smashed and destroyed.
01:58:55.000And they realized it was these big-ass wolves.
01:59:43.000Orcas are so smart, they figured out how to kill sharks the easy way.
01:59:47.000Like they, you know, they can communicate with each other and talk.
01:59:50.000We don't know what they're saying, but we know they're talking.
01:59:52.000They figured out how to pass the knowledge from generation to generation that the way to kill a shark is you bite it and then you flip it upside down.
01:59:58.000When you flip a shark upside down, they're like really old designs.
02:01:19.000And I got to the point where it was a video and it was the mating ritual of jumping spiders.
02:01:24.000And at first I was like, oh, shit, I am going to like spiders because what they do to attract each other is the male like pounds his legs on the ground and the sound vibrations, I guess, stimulate the female in some way.
02:01:36.000Yeah, so what happened in the video though is like, if I'm remembering correctly, the male jumping spider looks like he's going to get some and they zoom in on his eyes and you're like, oh, if a spider could be happy, this spider is probably happy, right?
02:01:50.000And then it looks like the female is about to get mounted.
02:01:53.000She takes a big fucking bite out and like and then just jumps off and he jumps off in the other direction and you can see the guts and like you know what fuck spiders zero respect because I was starting to think like I shouldn't kill spiders if I see them in my apartment.
02:02:06.000I should either leave them alone or let them take the time to let them out.
02:03:02.000I don't know if this is the one that I saw because I don't remember there being captions, but it's the same idea.
02:03:07.000Because this is what they do to attract each other, but there's a good chance whenever they do this ritual that the female will choose to eat the male.
02:03:13.000And that right there is a sign of insanity to me.
02:03:29.000You know, in ants, there's a lot of female ants that they kill the males, and the way they breed with him, they cut his wings off, they cut his legs off, and they take him into the hive and breed with him.
02:03:42.000Look at his, It doesn't even look really good.
02:04:32.000That's a predator's predator right there.
02:04:34.000Yeah, they don't even have teeth, but they just dash onto a fucking rattlesnake, get a hold of that bitch, screw him up tight, and start swallowing them whole headfirst.
02:04:44.000They get a hold of him so fast that the rattlesnake doesn't even have a chance to bite him, clamp a hold of his head and just stretch their mouth out.
02:04:51.000I mean, the difference being like Joey Diaz eating you.
02:04:55.000Like not that much difference in size.
02:04:57.000Like not enough where you would go, how is Joey get David Seaman in his whole body?
02:05:02.000Like look, but this is like a choice meal for the kingsnake.
02:06:19.000While we're on the topic of snakes, have you seen that YouTube video where the snake charmer is charming the cobra and then gets right up to it and kisses it on the head and then backs away?
02:06:40.000There's cool videos of like these really dangerous, scary snakes with babies and it's just like wrapping around the baby and trying to bite the baby's face.
02:06:49.000They just tap the baby's forehead with their nose where their teeth don't come out because they had them removed.
02:09:25.000But I want it to be biologically related to me because I think that this sounds really selfish and like full of shit, but I think that one of the only ways that we gain immortality is the fact that we're allowing part of us to carry on.
02:09:38.000And I think it's really cool to think about, like, oh, I'm part my dad, and he's part his grandfather, and that this is the way that we communicate through thousands of years.
02:09:48.000Do you think that that's all going to go away when there's real genetic manipulation?
02:09:52.000Yeah, we're talking about creating an artificial human being.
02:10:29.000When you get to that point, and then you get to the point where you are able to manipulate genetics and you say, you know, hey, you know, I'm just going to stick with the genetics I've got.
02:10:39.000I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I don't need to make anything any better.
02:12:16.000So things like Gattaca, science fiction, wow, craziness, genetically modified human beings, the modified ones versus the non-modified ones, and the elitism of the separation because of resources, of people that can afford to be perfect, and then the rest of the dregs of society, they're out there banging at the door, trying to get into the fucking spaceship.
02:12:45.000If you don't have enough Bitcoins, you don't get into the spaceship to Mars.
02:12:49.000It's interesting how the founding fathers didn't address stuff like digital privacy or where your metadata should be stored because they could not picture it.
02:12:57.000They had no idea what a smartphone was.
02:12:59.000And that was only a few hundred years.
02:13:48.000Like if they found that there was an asteroid or something and it has, you know, fucking $100 trillion worth of oil in it or diamonds or what have you, and you could get there in a day's time.
02:14:20.000The actual military program being used like satellites shooting at space shuttles where they're on their way to this asteroid to get diamonds.
02:15:18.000It's not going to be completely awful.
02:15:19.000It's just going to be powerful space mining companies give us the motivation to create really fast spaceships because we've got to get out there faster to beat other companies.
02:15:28.000And once you have the same competitive drive that makes your phone so good and makes all this shit possible, get that in space.
02:16:42.000But they go after this insect race, and it's hard for them to communicate and figure out what that race's intentions are because they're so alien.
02:16:50.000You know, it's like they're talking to like human-sized ants, basically.
02:17:26.000And it's, I don't know if he actually believes this or if it was like something he wrote in a science fiction book, but it's a really cool idea.
02:17:32.000And it's that at some point, we're going to look to other species on the earth that we find to be interesting, probably dogs and dolphins and stuff.
02:17:40.000And we're like, we're going to upgrade you.
02:17:41.000We're going to figure out a way for us to communicate directly because you're very similar to us and you probably have a perspective that's different from the human perspective.
02:17:49.000So we're going to elevate them to our level.
02:17:51.000Whereas right now they're kind of like savages.
02:17:53.000We're going to bring them into modern society and kind of coexist with these other species in a way that we've never done before.
02:18:03.000Well, that is what they, when you get to the real nutty people that think that human beings were engineered by aliens, that's essentially the premise of the last one.
02:19:48.000I think it's every three or four years there's an eclipse, but I'm not sure about the blood moon part.
02:19:51.000But the weird thing is when it got to that orange-ish, reddish phase, it literally looked like somebody just threw a ball and it was just floating there.
02:20:00.000Like it didn't look like the moon because the lighting, especially when it started hitting the left side, really made, you never saw lighting come from the bottom like that.
02:20:08.000It just made the whole moon look fake as fuck.
02:20:11.000Yeah, there's a cool thing on CNN where they have all the various images of it and they have some people did like time lapses.
02:20:20.000And it's interesting in the time lapse, you see like when it's in certain parts of the sky, it's totally white.
02:20:26.000And then it gets to one small segment of the sky where there's some sort of a reflection or something.
02:20:33.000If rain clouds, rain or clouds obscured your lunar experience, don't fret.
02:20:39.000This episode is one of the first four consecutive total lunar eclipses known as a tetrad that will occur in a six-month interval until September of 2015.
02:23:26.000Discovery has these shows that have nothing to do with discovering anything.
02:23:32.000Now, if you want what Discovery used to be, you got to head over to Science Channel and then you get How It's Made is one of my favorite shows to watch while I'm enjoying certain substances because it gives you an appreciation for everything.
02:23:46.000Like something boring, like this bottle of water becomes fascinating.
02:23:49.000Yeah, How It's Made is a really cool show.
02:23:52.000It's disturbing, though, looking at there's a new show on Discovery.
02:23:58.000You remember that video that we played with Ted Nugent and this guy Pigman shooting pigs from a helicopter?
02:24:04.000Just machine gunning pigs out of a helicopter, these wild feral pigs that they have to eradicate from a lot of these Texas farms?
02:27:08.000You heard too many people just getting the fuck suit out of them for seating.
02:27:13.000You have it up there and you're having people and then they fucking send software that infects your computer and now you don't even know that you're hacked.
02:27:23.000It's just crazy the fees that some people, like some housewife, you owe us a million dollars.
02:29:07.000I swear this is the last time I mentioned digital money, but banks have an opportunity to not do the exact same thing that record companies did.
02:29:14.000Where they're like, oh shit, we got to fight this tooth and nail.
02:29:42.000If somebody called me in for a meeting like that, it all comes down to game theory, and it's like we have this thing in the middle of the table that everybody wants and that the earliest adopters would benefit from.
02:29:54.000So, you as Bank of America or you as Chase, you want to be the first one to adopt this because you're going to gain so much market share so fast that it's going to fuck all your competitors.
02:30:04.000And people right now are desperate for a Bitcoin service they can trust.
02:30:08.000And as shitty as these banks are, the Bank of America brand name has a lot more trust than that guy, Karpalis, right?
02:30:15.000So, like, between those two organizations, who would I prefer to have my Bitcoin with?
02:30:19.000Or rather, who would I prefer to buy it with?
02:30:22.000Definitely the bank that's down the street and that I know has, you know, whatever market cap they have.
02:30:27.000They have a lot of money and I know they're not going under tomorrow.
02:30:30.000So I would say ignore all the political rabble rousing and all the bold predictions people like me are making, which will probably not come true.
02:30:39.000And instead, look at this as just a better technology.
02:30:42.000And you as a bank, you want to implement better technologies because it means lower fraud, less expense, more possibility for profit and innovation.
02:30:49.000Go fucking do it and do it before Chase does it.
02:30:52.000That's a really good piece of advice right there.
02:31:03.000Like you didn't decide it and maybe it's to your short-term disadvantage, but people want something and that's a good thing.
02:31:09.000It's almost like you remember the social network where the one guy wanted him to put ads all over the site and he's like, no, like we don't know what this is, but we know it's cool right now.
02:31:17.000And banks have not done anything cool in a very long time.
02:31:20.000And the young people are really disenfranchised.
02:31:36.000And it's also about addressing the inevitability of what's going on.
02:31:40.000But they would look at it in terms of maybe they have their finger on the trigger of that, but they don't want to press it too soon and fuck themselves.
02:31:47.000It's like when you heard that R.J. Reynolds had the patents for several different strains of marijuana and they had labels printed up ready to go.
02:31:56.000That was always one of those urban myths.
02:31:58.000But the idea was that they don't want to come out with it too soon because if marijuana does become legal, they want to be able to jump on it and be able to sell gold.
02:32:09.000That's weakness right there because we never control when things happen, but we control how we respond.
02:32:14.000And I think Amazon is run by a brilliant guy, and I think their failure to accept Bitcoin is one of their first really big fuck-ups because Overstock is a big company too, and they're going to get a lot bigger because now there's that loyalty there.
02:32:26.000Before I didn't care about Overstock at all, I would never mention them on a show like yours.
02:32:30.000Overstock, it's like some bullshit e-commerce site.
02:33:16.000Yeah, you can get new stuff also, but a lot of it, I mean, at least the original, how it started off was always like too much stuff at that time.
02:33:24.000I think that was the way that they started and took off, was that they offered cheaper stuff because it was literally overstocked.
02:33:29.000But now you can get pretty much anything.
02:33:31.000So what's the difference between their model of business and Amazon's?
02:33:35.000Do you think their model of business is superior?
02:33:38.000I just think the CEO is able to look into the future better than what Amazon is doing because Amazon is playing it safe.
02:33:44.000And if you're that kind of company, you can't afford to play it safe.
02:33:47.000And that's one of the reasons why Google is doing so well is they go like, we'll spend a lot of money on crazy stuff that will not work out.
02:33:54.000And that's okay because one of those crazy things might be our next major revenue stream.
02:36:03.000I've had this conversation with friends of mine who still live on the East Coast, and they're like, you don't, like, dude, you're just dealing with superficial chicks, and you think they're friendly.
02:36:53.000Maybe it's a reflection of David Seaman getting a little bit of internet celebrity, getting some pussy, and starting to judge a patch of dirt differently.
02:38:13.000Here's the thing about Bohemian Grove, not knowing much about it, but if you're a billionaire, there are very few people that you can relate to who aren't immediately like, here's my job resume.
02:39:33.000Well, crows have unbelievable intelligence.
02:39:36.000I know you've seen some of those videos where crows problem solve and use tools and not just use tools, but use multiple step tools, like one tool to get to another tool.
02:39:46.000They use that tool to get to a third tool, then use that tool to get to meet.
02:41:15.000That's definitely like monkey intelligence.
02:41:18.000So it took one twig to get to a second twig and then took that second twig and went, I mean, it couldn't reach the first twig without using, or the second twig without using the first twig.
02:41:43.000I think there's certain animals you're just not going to figure out.
02:41:46.000Like, you know, they tried to tame zebras at one point in time.
02:41:49.000All those assholes that moved to the Congo and built the states and tried to fucking enslave people and run things in Africa, and it never worked.
02:41:57.000One of the things they try to do is they try to domesticate zebras.
02:43:45.000Cheryl Crow is probably not as smart as a crow.
02:43:49.000As far as problem solving, if you got Cheryl Crowe and the Crow and neither one of them had any idea what was going on, that you made them do those two things.
02:44:15.000And I talked to Stefan Molyneux earlier this week, and I asked him, I was like, am I deluded by telling people this is going to change everything?
02:44:22.000He's like, no, I think that it's going to change a lot of stuff.
02:44:24.000And he was telling me about how it's going to change politics in a big way because you can't get bribes with Bitcoin, basically.
02:44:56.000It actually goes back to ancient times where in places like Mesopotamia, when merchants would do business, they didn't need a Chaser Bank of America.
02:45:14.000When I say it might happen, there's a reason why Bitcoin's at $500 each.
02:45:18.000And that's because in China, where they have a radically different government from ours, far more oppressive, they don't speak the same language.
02:45:28.000And Bitcoin, is it more popular in any parts of the world besides America?
02:45:32.000It's more popular in China, I believe.
02:45:34.000I believe most of the, I might be wrong, but I think most of the trading volume right now is in China.
02:45:38.000But definitely most of the startups are in Silicon Valley.
02:45:41.000I wonder what steps, we'll ask Antonopoulos next week, what steps they've taken to ensure that the same jackals that have gotten a hold of the financial system and twisted it into this weird cryptic world of derivatives and unexplainable things, if they've done anything to prevent that from happening to things like Bitcoin.
02:46:03.000I'm sure if there's a way to corrupt it or make it less fun, they will do that.
02:46:09.000Or they will try for their own profit.