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00:09:30.000The feedback, people have already listened to it, really love it, and I'm...
00:09:33.000I hadn't put on a CD for a while, so I was really excited to put this whole group of Hour of Power together.
00:09:40.000And I did it at the Edmonton Comedy Strip, which is one of my favorite clubs to play.
00:09:46.000Because it's literally the only club where I got off stage and two separate times the owners, one Tammy and one Rick Bronson, would pull me aside and literally go, dude...
00:11:27.000And then she woke up and like half her body had all frostbites and they were gonna have to amputate shit because she had passed out on her...
00:14:58.000Probably like 13. I got picked up at the comedy store just around 2000. So during that time, we have all seen each other In a state of, if somebody wanted to have sex with us, it would technically be rape.
00:16:57.000No, I agree with you on that one, but we live in a country where it's like you can't technically have different laws for different people, right?
00:18:21.000It's definitely that, but I think there's also part of it is having a baby with a guy who ordinarily doesn't want anything more than sex from you.
00:22:46.000It's focusing on the comedy thing, which is so tiring, because as...
00:22:49.000You know, like, going on the road and finding a spot yourself, doing it at the Doug Stanhope way, getting, like, a rock club and getting the door and doing all...
00:23:40.000Lately I've been touring a lot, and it's totally fun when you just keep...
00:23:44.000When you get to work on a joke over and over again, and then all of a sudden you just riff on a new punchline, now it just boom, boom, boom, and it just builds.
00:23:52.000Because I'm trying to now write a new hour to finally shoot something.
00:23:59.000So you want to write an hour additional to that and then shoot it in how much time?
00:24:03.000Well, I'm debating whether I do, like, because I have another CD called Crime Fighter, and that material's really old, but do the best of this and the best of this new stuff I'm doing, and then shoot an hour, or just do a whole new hour.
00:24:16.000Do a whole new hour, because that way people could still find this stuff, and they could still, like, tune to the old stuff.
00:24:22.000Yeah, I'm about 35 minutes into a new hour.
00:24:25.000I made a mistake once of not doing a totally new set because I had certain jokes that were just better.
00:24:31.000Between my Showtime special and then when I did my CD on Comedy Central, there was a couple bits, I don't know how many bits, but there was more than one that crossed over that was just a better bit.
00:25:14.000That's some brave ass shit right there.
00:25:17.000Putting out new bits on the special, I guess.
00:25:21.000Well, one of the things about doing a podcast is, even if you're not writing during the time that you're doing the podcast, you're thinking about shit in a way, and you're going over, especially if we're doing a podcast like this, like hanging out with comics, just talking shit.
00:25:36.000It's not like someone who's promoting a very specific book Or, you know, about a very specific subject, which is fascinating as well.
00:25:43.000But doing these kind of podcasts, like, you're forced to think for long periods of time.
00:27:23.000It's just you can feel the energy of just going, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:26.000But when guys do that, like you'll see guys like on the road, especially if you bring a guy on the road that hasn't been on the road before.
00:27:56.000You see that at the Hollywood Improv a lot because a lot of people think that's like the office.
00:28:01.000That's where you go to work when the industry is going to be there.
00:28:04.000And when you're a young comic and it's the first time you get a set there, a lot of them put like this humongous amount of pressure on themselves to do well there.
00:28:14.000I've always felt like as you move up the comedy chain, I feel the gigs kind of get easier.
00:28:20.000The ticket price goes up, and as the ticket price goes up, I always feel like people want to laugh.
00:28:26.000They're like, I'm dropping 50 bucks on this ticket, I'm going to laugh.
00:29:35.000You know, we talked about that on the podcast before, but apparently we were incorrect when it was about Jay Leno, so we should probably correct this is a good opportunity.
00:29:44.000When you see those super high tickets, those are actually scalpers.
00:29:47.000That's like Ticket Hub and shit like that.
00:29:50.000Yeah, but this was an advertisement on...
00:38:03.000I did one of those things where I'm driving by the hospital in Burbank, and I'm like, should I just pull over and just wait this out to make sure I don't need to be there soon?
00:44:06.000What I'm getting at is it's weird, and it goes back to what we were talking about, about living in Edmonton, because it's weird what people just get used to.
00:44:14.000It's weird that people get used to 50 below zero.
00:44:16.000It's weird that people get used to plowing themselves out of their driveway every day because it snowed a foot and a half overnight while they were sleeping so they have to get up two hours early just so they can get out of their fucking driveway and drive down that slippery road to a job that sucks.
00:45:18.000Look, I think if someone's gotten you to the point where you're so fucked up, you want to stay in prison and you don't want to be free, or if you are so fucked up and you have the ability to recognize it, like if you're a child molester or something along those lines, which...
00:45:33.000You know, take away from the horrific act of what molesting a child is.
00:47:08.000Well, how about this fucking Magic Johnson, Donald Sterling thing?
00:47:13.000This whole thing, a part of this whole thing that a lot of people were ignoring was her and the guy, Sterling and her having this conversation, where he was saying, you can go fuck these guys.
00:47:25.000He was like, I don't care what you do with him, fuck him, go out, you know, fuck him.
00:49:22.000They've had people that are HIV positive, but the drug goes into such remote places and squashes out the virus in such a way that even though you still have it, it's like- And you can transmit it?
00:51:17.000All of these flus, this is another thing that I found out during the show, almost all of them come from livestock.
00:51:23.000Whether it's the swine flu, whether it's the avian flu, bird flu, all these different flus, a shit ton of them come from the way people raise animals in factory farm traditions.
00:51:45.000Yeah, Sam Kinison's bit on AIDS was like, at the time, it was so taboo and so wrong, but there's so much of it that was so fucking true and funny.
00:51:56.000The thing where he's like, you know, he's like...
00:54:40.000Because Rob Halford of Judas Priest, who was gay as fuck and cool as shit, all-around bad motherfucker, he's such a bad motherfucker that he was wearing obvious gay biker garb, and he got people to think that gay biker garb on stage was something cool.
00:54:59.000And because he was sort of closeted...
00:55:02.000You know, I guess it was understood in the industry, but they didn't talk about it, but he didn't hide it, you know, it was one of those things.
00:55:07.000It wasn't like Liberace, you know, back in the day, constantly asking when he was going to get married.
00:55:12.000It was a different sort of a scenario, but Rob Halford got, he changed like metal.
00:55:48.000They want a guy who's built like Don Frye, who's got, like, they know he's got a six-pack under that, like, fucking cowboy shirt, but they don't want to see it on the outside.
00:57:28.000But it's a weird thing, like a chick can be gay, like a Jodie Foster, and everyone knows she's gay, she's out, it's all good, and she could play...
00:59:04.000If the Midwest comes over and they see that some big gay guy like Hugh Jackman is in some fucking movie where he's playing the girlfriend to...
00:59:13.000Who's the chick that's always on Sports Illustrated?
01:02:52.000You feel so weak and feeble when you go to see- more so than going to see the UFC. You feel weak and feeble when you go to Cirque du Soleil.
01:03:01.000Because you watch them do things and you're like, how long would it take me to even come close to be able to- fuck, I can't do that.
01:03:07.000If I had those skills, I'd become a ninja.
01:03:09.000Didn't someone die recently at Cirque du Soleil?
01:06:19.000So, cats eat these rats, and then the cats get it, and apparently it doesn't really affect the behavior of the cats, because cats are evil from the jump.
01:06:38.000These cats are like, what the fuck is going on?
01:06:40.000Now look, this rat, you can kill the language, but this rat starts going towards these cats, and he's like literally trying to get at their bag.
01:09:05.000Because if, like, all this stuff where you're like, you shouldn't pay for sex, you shouldn't do drugs, you shouldn't do all this shit, because it gets the, you know, the God.
01:09:13.000Yeah, in Amsterdam, all that is legal, and there's not fires coming from the skies, and monkey, flying monkeys, teabagging everybody, and, you know, it's just, like, it's been proven that that...
01:09:26.000Well, suppression is not good for people.
01:10:08.000But one of the things that he set me hip to was like, Kellogg's, you can find this online, created cornflakes, created mild-tasting food to keep people from getting sexually aroused.
01:10:18.000Said that he lived with his wife for like 40 years and bragged about never having had sex with her, but kept a male intern who would give him daily enemas.
01:11:44.000I'm not judging all, but it's like when you sit there and you say, oh, you shouldn't do this, this, and this, most of the time you're doing this, this, and this.
01:11:51.000You just want to put laws on other people.
01:13:06.000And those people are out there wandering through the world too.
01:13:10.000When people see that, and they see that you can't treat that with love, and some people say, well, you gotta treat them with love, and they go, oh, you fucking liberals will ruin everything!
01:13:19.000And then you have this division between people that are conservative and that care, and then people who are liberal that care, and the liberal people think the conservatives are cruel, and the conservative people think that the liberals have, you know, some idealized view of the world that doesn't work,
01:13:34.000and only works because hard men are out there doing the bad deeds to keep the world safe, Yes.
01:14:44.000If there's not a way, then we're always going to have this vicious cycle.
01:14:48.000Of dealing with shitty people, shitty people making more shitty people, shitty people fucking shitty people up, people dealing with people who fucked them up, their whole life in therapy, their whole life constantly talking about the abuse that happened to them when they were young because it's defined them as a person.
01:15:01.000And I also feel that there's so many people making money off of shitty people.
01:15:06.000You know, the drug war, the privatized prisons and stuff like that, that you're fighting against this group who, it's not in their best interest that these people get fixed.
01:15:25.000You know, the real issue that a lot of people have when it comes to global climate change is when you see a guy like Al Gore who's made a fuckload of money off of climate change and people start saying, oh, it's a business.
01:15:35.000These guys, they have a vested interest.
01:15:36.000There's thousands and thousands of people.
01:16:43.000Right, because they've been told that from the top.
01:16:45.000You know, I had this guy Randall Carlson on the podcast recently who talked about climate change throughout the history, the known history of the earth, and it was incredibly fascinating.
01:16:53.000And he absolutely believes that human beings and our carbon footprint plays a part.
01:17:01.000But he said the real issue is there's a lot of other factors that play a part and they have throughout history.
01:17:05.000We're concerning ourselves primarily with what people have done and we have done a fucked up job on this earth.
01:17:11.000He said, I'm more concerned with the particulate matter, like burning coal and pollution and stuff, what it does to our air quality, than I am the actual warming.
01:17:20.000Because he started going off about global cooling and about what it used to be like here on Earth, and it was one of the most terrifying podcasts I've ever listened to.
01:18:00.000It's like this fine line between wanting to know the facts and just like it's out of my hands.
01:18:04.000Dude, he was also talking about some, without a doubt, beyond a shadow of a doubt, factual evidence about the amount of species that used to exist during that time that died off.
01:18:15.000A huge percentage of all the animals that were alive back then are gone.
01:21:42.000They found out a way that they think they're going to be able to bring back plant vegetation and shit in the ocean and sort of reseed areas and re-oxygenate the ocean.
01:23:01.000It says, Iron acts as a fertilizer for many plants, and some, like the phytoplankton that forms the baseline of marine food web, need to grow.
01:23:10.000They need it to grow, and adding iron to the water stimulates phytoplankton growth, which in turn gobble up carbon dioxide through photosynthesis.
01:23:18.000This results in a decrease in carbon dioxide...
01:23:22.000And it reduces temperature since carbon dioxide is one of the main gases responsible for trapping heat on the Earth's surface through the greenhouse effect.
01:23:34.000Yeah, that's the other thing that this guy, Randall Carlson, was talking about is how this increase in carbon dioxide that we have, they're also directly correlating it with an increase in plant growth.
01:23:47.000Which is kind of fucked, because we always think of people adding carbon dioxide to the air being a poison, and they were poisoning the air.
01:23:55.000But the reality is that plants need carbon dioxide to grow.
01:23:58.000So it's not saying that you should go out and burn carbon dioxide to fucking help the plants, but...
01:24:05.000It's one of those things, again, where it's not black and white.
01:24:10.000Well, isn't it that they're deforestation, they're cutting down the plants, meaning there's less plants to take in the CO2 and that's where the problem is right now?
01:25:00.000And so then it becomes, they don't have the root system, so then you get mudslides, and then the ground, it becomes very difficult to grow crops on it.
01:25:09.000It's really kind of fucking crazy, like, what they're doing.
01:25:11.000They're just chopping down trees, and thousands and thousands of acres, just...
01:25:53.000The study has revealed that the amount of methane, a greenhouse gas, 20 times more potent but far less prevalent than CO2. So it would be 20 cows to every person to balance that out.
01:26:05.000Or 20 people to every cow, rather, to balance that out.
01:26:08.000Because it's 20 times more potent if a cow was the size of a person.
01:26:12.000But a cow is way bigger than a person, so it's even more.
01:26:14.000So a cow is probably five times bigger than a person.
01:26:16.000So instead of 20 times, it's probably 100 times more impact.
01:26:57.000Methane is a fucking issue, though, man.
01:26:59.000When I used to visit my parents, my parents used to live in Pennsylvania and I just drive from New York to rural Pennsylvania and there's this stretch of highway where it's all farms, dairy farms and slaughterhouses and shit.
01:27:59.000So if you live in a town, a town stinks.
01:28:02.000Like some of those industrial pollution places in New Jersey, when you're driving through New Jersey and you smell industrial pollution, those towns, they don't smell it.
01:28:10.000You only smell it because you're driving from fresh air or reasonably fresh air into that area.
01:28:15.000That's how it used to be when I went to Niagara Falls.
01:28:17.000They had this giant factory called Hooker Chemicals.
01:31:29.000So if you want to talk about something, and you want to talk about something as serious as someone not doing a recall, because they'd rather just get sued because they can save money that way, you've got to know what the fuck you're saying.
01:31:59.000I'm going to go get a new one when I get done.
01:32:01.000Well, I'm sure there's been some problems with oversight.
01:32:06.000I'm sure there's been some problems with recalls.
01:32:09.000But saying that they actively got together and said, hey, let's just not recall these things and roll our chances with the lawsuit because the study has shown that we can save money if we go that route.
01:32:57.000GM says, safety is our top priority, and today's announcement puts all manufacturers on notice.
01:33:02.000That they will be held accountable if they fail to quickly report and address safety-related defects.
01:33:08.000This is U.S. Transportation Secretary Anthony Fox with two X's.
01:33:14.000He said he would continue to aggressively monitor GM efforts in this case and called on Congress to support a move to increase the penalties the regulator can levy in cases like this from a maximum of $35 million to $300 million.
01:33:30.000Sending an even stronger message that delays will not be tolerated.
01:34:14.000I found an article to help you out, Sam.
01:34:16.000On justice.org, they all knew and failed to PDF. It's called They Knew and Failed To.
01:34:23.000And these are true stories of corporations that knew their products were dangerous, sometimes deadly, but they failed to do anything about it.
01:34:29.000And one of the things it says is a car company that discovers that if it does not spend $11 per car to fix a defect, hundreds of people will be horribly burned and decides it would be cheaper to let them burn.
01:35:04.000True stories of corporations that knew their products were dangerous, sometimes deadly.
01:35:08.000So as far as this GM thing, it looks like they definitely fucked up.
01:35:12.000Well, you know, the reason I brought up John Oliver, because he was talking about these memos in which they would tell their employees words they could not use.
01:35:50.000They knew about it in 1997 and then finally announced in 2000s...
01:35:55.000You know, I think that that was a different era.
01:35:57.000You know, that sounds crazy, but 1996, 1997, like comparing that to 2014, I mean, I know that was only 20 years ago or 18 years ago, but isn't it fascinating that that might as well have been 100 fucking years ago?
01:36:14.000They found out, they actually had a chart where it says that 180 burn deaths would be 200,000 per death, and then they just added up how much it would cost to recall.
01:36:25.000$11 per car with what looks like 11 million cars.
01:36:30.000Also, they calculated severe burns, serious burns.
01:36:35.0002,100 burned vehicles, and it all came to 49.5 million.
01:36:40.000But if you recall, 11 million cars came to 137 million.
01:36:48.000You know, the whole thing was that GM was training their people, their employees, how to answer these questions, how to deflect, how to do all this stuff, because they knew they had a faulty thing.
01:37:31.000General Motors knew for several decades that the placement of the fuel tank in the Chevy Malibu created a big risk exploding in the event of a rear collision.
01:37:39.000So for a couple decades they knew that was.
01:37:41.000I never even heard about that with the Malibu.
01:39:05.000It's kind of like one of those things that I don't think is going to be around in the future.
01:39:08.000I think with WikiLeaks and shit along these lines, you're not going to be able to get away with that.
01:39:13.000You're not going to be able to get away with saying that someone's life is worth $200,000, and so we have X amount of dollars invested here.
01:39:21.000We would save $50 million if we just let these people burn.
01:40:11.000But I think that's all, a lot of that is going to be in the past.
01:40:14.000I think it's still going on right now to a certain extent, but transparency is making it more and more difficult to get away with shit like that.
01:40:21.000You know, it's just, it's going to make it more and more difficult to hide what the fuck you did.
01:40:25.000You know, and when we're talking about things like this, I don't I don't think you can hide this anymore, man.
01:40:30.000That's why, you know, going back to what we're talking about, all the hackers and all that stuff, that's why, like, when this net neutrality stuff is coming up, I'm like, I just don't think the hackers will let that happen.
01:40:40.000Well, they're gonna have to for a while, but they're already fighting back.
01:41:17.000But the point about what they're doing with the FCC is that these hackers attacked the SEC's website and turned the FCC website down to 28.8.
01:41:39.000Yeah, well, basically making it so, you know, certain websites you can get to quicker and then if they want to find mine, it's going to take forever for them to find where it is.
01:42:24.000So it's this different thing where I think today it's way harder to cover shit up.
01:42:28.000And the people that are involved, the last thing those motherfuckers want to do is be up for any public office or applying for any sort of a job.
01:42:37.000Explain your role about eliminating net neutrality and what was your position?
01:42:42.000Well, isn't the guy who's in charge of the FCC used to work at Time Warner or something where he was high up in...
01:42:49.000Sam is the king of, has sort of an idea of what's going on in his head.
01:43:40.000Imagine if your dad was out killing other people and you were worried that he was going to get you, but you wanted to keep your mouth shut about him killing other people because he's your dad.
01:47:33.000Yeah, there's a difference between someone visiting you.
01:47:36.000That's like what people always have an issue with, like a girl flying out to hang out with a guy and stay the weekend.
01:47:40.000I've had that, comics, I've heard that happen to them.
01:47:43.000Like, they meet a girl on the road, like, man, I think she's really cool, like, she's gonna come out and visit me, we'll see what's up, and the girl flies out to visit him, and then, nothing.
01:48:44.000I think what we were talking about earlier, like, when you're talking about what is rape, you know, we all know what's bad.
01:48:50.000When you define something by a name, you know, when you say, like, oh, you have a couple drinks, and then you have sex with somebody, that's rape.
01:48:56.000They have sex with you, it's rape, because you've had three drinks, or you have two drinks.
01:49:13.000Yeah, what's in your mind when, you know, if Justin Martindale were here and we're like, well, if homos like you could stop fucking monkeys, what would we be doing?
01:49:47.000It's like Patrice O'Neill when he got on that MSNBC show or whatever the fuck it was with that lady who was arguing about Opie and Anthony getting in trouble for rape jokes.
01:50:01.000It was that homeless guy got on the show, and the homeless guy started talking about Condoleezza Rice, and he was saying he would rape her.
01:50:09.000And then they got suspended, and what Patrice O'Neill was trying to say was that when someone is trying to be funny...
01:50:17.000Like, that it's all coming from the same place.
01:50:19.000It's all coming from a place of trying to be funny.
01:50:21.000If it's coming from a place where you're trying to hurt someone's feelings, or you are discriminating, or you are being evil, that's a different thing.
01:50:28.000It's not the label, it's the intent behind it.
01:52:04.000There's one, the thing is people saying actual slurs.
01:52:09.000Having mean intent and being, you know, an evil person with evil intent.
01:52:14.000Then there's also another thing going on where people just going after words and the use of words and trying to limit the use of words and trying to limit the language that we use.
01:52:24.000Not the intent and not the thought behind the words.
01:52:28.000Not the philosophy or the way of looking at life, which I think for most of us is constantly evolving and changing from the time we're younger to the time we're older.
01:53:36.000Anger and hate coming from people that are supposedly progressive on a scale that you rarely see even coming from people that are conservative.
01:53:46.000What I hate about the Political Correct movement is that how much fine print comes with that word.
01:53:53.000They totally accept it and almost, in their brains, convince themselves that this person who they approve of uses the word is actually using that word to make fun of those who use the word as negative.
01:54:06.000They actually convince themselves of it.
01:54:09.000You're talking about the Colbert Report thing.
01:54:21.000Yeah, well, let's cancel Colbert was this thing that started, you know, trending online because they thought that Stephen Colbert put out a racist joke.
01:54:54.000The punchline was, I'm willing to show the Asian community I care by introducing the Ching Chong Ding Dong Foundation for Sensitivity to Orientals or whatever.
01:55:50.000But it's not just her, because whether she was wrong, she might have saw that and overreacted and then didn't understand what was going on.
01:56:00.000Didn't see the whole thing, just saw part of it, started it off.
01:56:03.000And then, boom, she was caught up in this wave of interaction.
01:56:07.000Well, I would say I would disagree with that statement, that she was caught up in it because she would keep doing interviews about it well after, you know, like a week or so after people were like, you understand it's satire, and then the guy interviewing her on this Huffington Post thing, which was really funny, and she She's like,
01:58:09.000There's another article in Time magazine.
01:58:11.000The cross-promotion of more white male celebrities proves it.
01:58:17.000The entertainment industry has perfected the development of white cis straight male characters and the marginalisation of other voices, except when those others are bought in only to aid in the cheap punchline of a joke.
01:58:40.000They're showing people of color being badass.
01:58:47.000Other voices except when those others are bought in only to aid in the cheap punchline of a joke is complete.
01:58:56.000This is aggression we do not have to accept.
01:59:35.000Genocide and slavery and Orientalism all work together to uphold white supremacy.
01:59:40.000It's really kind of the way that I understand my work, which is why a lot of my work isn't essentially with these mainstream Asian American activist groups.
01:59:49.000Because the simple truth is that young people generally don't hold institutional power because they lack general experience.
02:00:05.000Maybe you went to university And now you think you know everything about the world.
02:00:12.000President Sui Park, they will chant as you, with your 23-year-old wisdom, set about solving all of the world's problems.
02:00:21.000And many will have chuckled a quiet chuckle of mirth to themselves as you got hauled up on your own hubris.
02:00:29.000For only about a week or so after your campaign to cancel Colbert it turns out that Colbert was indeed getting cancelled and instead he's now going to take over the reins from David Letterman on the eminently prestigious Late Show.
02:00:44.000And this seems to have triggered these tears of rage from you in your latest article.
02:00:52.000Oh, the bitter tears of unfathomable sorrow they are, Zoe.
02:00:57.000The white man, as you frequently refer to him, has now become the beloved white man.
02:01:03.000Yeah, because being white must mean that the white man is always reasonable, always pure, always deliberate, always complex, and always innocent.
02:02:48.000And I think, you know, as much as she might have thought she's thought this stuff out, what's going on is she's looking at a white belt in life.
02:02:57.000She's a young person who's sort of, you know, maybe she's smart, maybe she's not, I don't know, maybe she's educated, maybe she's not, I don't really know.
02:03:04.000It's hard to tell from this, because what you have is a bright spotlight on a person who probably shouldn't have had it on them, made a big mistake, hit a chord, that chord is the racism chord, and hit it accidentally, because didn't understand the satire of a joke,
02:03:20.000and didn't understand the context of a tweet.
02:03:22.000That it was a part of a much larger piece.
02:03:25.000And in taking that out of context and running with it, connected to a system.
02:03:29.000And once she's a part of that system, once she starts being interviewed, and people are calling her a fucking idiot on Fox News, I think it was Fox News, where someone called her stupid.
02:06:03.000Do you know, white privilege is a thing that there was a recent article that everybody critiqued or criticized that some young kid at Yale wrote about being told to check his privilege.
02:06:13.000This whole thing, this check your privilege thing, it's nice...
02:07:24.000Sometimes have to pay for the sins of thy fathers and their grandfathers.
02:07:27.000There's this whole thing in the NBA that people get really mad that the last couple spots on an NBA team tend to be given to white guys.
02:07:36.000And they're really upset because, you know, it's like, well, why should they be making that for white kids?
02:07:41.000Well, it's the same thing that they're doing in Hollywood, where, you know, where the TV shows have to have multiracial characters, the commercials are multiracial, so that young kids see themselves in there and realize they could do that, too.
02:08:03.000You know, I wanted to play pro basketball, and I wanted to be the first white guy to play on Georgetown's basketball team, because at the time, it was all black guys.
02:08:15.000And I always wanted to be on that because I wanted to be the white kid.
02:08:18.000So I can understand to a point why you have a couple white guys on the team because a lot of kids who are young, white kids, dream of playing pro basketball.
02:08:43.000So complaining at all about it makes you look like a fucking idiot because the idea of white privilege, the real idea is that white people have an advantage and they have an advantage culturally in how they're treated by society.
02:08:58.000It doesn't mean that you should have to check your white privilege when you're talking about ideas.
02:09:02.000Because saying something like that to someone You're not saying, hey, look, white people have an advantage, but realistically, that's all unfair, and we should all be equal, and we should all be one, and let's just go and talk about ideas from an even playing field.
02:09:17.000But this whole thing of anybody having an issue on something, but then again, imagine if you were going to school and you were a black guy who's experienced a lot of oppression, some rich white twat was giving you some dude who just grew up with rich parents on the fucking Hamptons, and he's giving you a hard time, and he doesn't understand that he got a fucking easy run.
02:09:34.000So you'd want to say, check your privilege to him.
02:09:52.000And that's a lot of people, and that's annoying to folks.
02:09:54.000But the idea that a white person can't have an opinion about satire because he's white and he doesn't understand what it's like to be an Asian woman who didn't get the joke?
02:10:06.000The problem is she's 23. She's 23 years old.
02:10:09.000She's a young person with ideas that maybe aren't completely formed yet, thrust into this weird position to defend something that was a mistake.
02:10:17.000I've always said that, you know how in Israel you have to serve in the army?
02:11:49.000That's what some Twitter users are demanding after the Colbert Report put out a now-deleted tweet, reading, I'm willing to show Asian community I care by introducing the Ching Chong Ding Dong Foundation for sensitivity to Orientals or whatever.
02:12:03.000This set off a Twitter firestorm late Thursday night with people sounding off.
02:12:06.000Hashtag cancel Colbert because we really don't need another white liberal celebrity trying to justify racism.
02:12:12.000Using satire that ironically ridicules Asians is not productive for indigenous nor any marginalized group.
02:12:46.000I think it's sad, but unfortunately, a lot of times our demands aren't really met unless we have really serious asks or we generate these larger conversations.
02:12:56.000Unfortunately, people usually don't listen to us when we're being reasonable.
02:12:59.000So I think it's really to make a statement that this sort of thing happens weekly, that Asian Americans are always a punchline.
02:13:05.000And so I think we're just trying to make a point that people will be held accountable the next time they do these sort of things.
02:13:10.000So just to clarify the context, the tweet was related to a segment that was lampooning Dan Snyder, who's the owner of a certain Washington, D.C. football team that has a racist name.
02:13:22.000I mean, do you understand the point of satire, that you say something that's intentionally absurd in order to ridicule not the people who are the target of what you're saying, but other people who might say it?
02:13:33.000I think satire caters to the audience that you're speaking to, so it says something about what the audience finds humorous or acceptable when you're using those sort of jokes, and I think satire is supposed to punch up.
02:13:43.000So unfortunately he's not doing that when he draws a parallel to Orientalism to make a point about Native American mascots.
02:13:49.000But isn't his point that there are lots of stupid racist people who, even in their attempt to be conciliatory on race, end up putting their foot in it and saying something dumb?
02:13:59.000I really don't think that we're going to add racism by joking about it.
02:14:02.000I'm glad that the white liberals feel like they are less racist because they can joke about people that are more explicitly racist, but that actually does nothing to help people of color.
02:14:10.000Why attack a satirical attack on Dan Snyder's racism instead of just attacking Dan Snyder's racism?
02:14:16.000Well, if you're familiar with my activism or my work, I've been very vocal about Native American mascots.
02:14:22.000I went to the University of Illinois for my undergraduate career.
02:14:25.000We had Chief Alinawick, and I was incredibly vocal about it, and I had the same sort of backlash.
02:14:29.000And that kind of backlash happens no matter what you're really attacking, whether it be, you know, the word oriental being used as a slur, yellowface jokes against Asian American people, or if I'm really just talking about Native American mascots and Dan Snyder.
02:14:42.000I know I helped trend Not Your Mascot, On Super Bowl night to fight the name Redskins and Not Your Tonto.
02:14:49.000I had the same sort of backlash, so it really isn't fair to kind of I'm not shifting my behavior.
02:14:56.000Honestly, if white liberals cared about getting rid of the mascot, there's a lot they can do to help organize or get involved besides caring about their joke.
02:15:03.000For them, it's not really about whether or not the Redskins exist or whether or not racism is over.
02:15:09.000It's really about them feeling like they can't have fun anymore and feeling entitled to be able to laugh at things that aren't really funny.
02:15:15.000Jason, part of the whole gag here is the use of the term orientalism, which is such a weird, old, loaded, like, it's a stupid, stupid word.
02:15:24.000But to get upset about the use of that word when it's in a satirical context strikes me as misguided.
02:15:29.000I want to take a look, though, at a tweet which Colbert Rapport has tweeted out.
02:15:33.000It says, for the record, Colbert Rapport is not controlled.
02:15:57.000Yeah, I was going to say that I feel like it's incredibly patronizing for you to paint these questions this way, especially as a white man.
02:16:03.000I don't expect you to be able to understand what people of color are actually saying with regards to cancel Colbert.
02:16:10.000Sorry, being a white man doesn't prevent me from being able to think and doesn't prevent me from being able to have reasoned perspectives on things.
02:16:18.000I didn't give up my right to be able to have an intellectual conversation when I was born.
02:16:23.000I know, but white men definitely feel like they're entitled to talk over me.
02:16:26.000They definitely feel like they're entitled to kind of minimalize my experiences, and they definitely feel like they are somehow exempt and so logical compared to women who are painted as emotional, right?
02:16:35.000No, no one's minimalizing your experiences.
02:16:38.000No one's minimalizing your right to have an opinion.
02:18:41.000Especially in this country where, I mean, like, everything I know is not perfect, man, but when you hear what goes on in other countries...
02:20:43.000I'm like, why don't we just open the bar and see what we can get into?
02:20:46.000If we were back there, if that was like during the days when I was hanging out at the comedy store, we would have had the greatest video of all time.
02:21:13.000All the crazy cocaine running around that place.
02:21:16.000I would have swallowed my keys like a fucking drug mule.
02:21:18.000I was so jealous watching everyone's Twitter feed, because we were in La Jolla, and I was like, the one time I'm not at the Comedy Stories.
02:22:58.000You know, I think people that run clubs, you know, they're just trying to get asses in the seats, try to get people excited about the comedy.
02:23:04.000If you don't do the process of creating it yourself, you don't know how vital that is, unless you're really paying attention.
02:23:10.000A lot of club owners do know, but some of them just think, hey, we're getting people to look.
02:23:14.000We've got 100,000 views on our YouTube channel.
02:23:56.000And, you know, if Kinison ever wanted to do that or Letterman or any of those guys that made the comedy store famous ever wanted to perform next door, they could have done that.
02:24:04.000I thought after a while Sam Kinison started just doing rock clubs.
02:24:10.000Well, he did a lot of that, but he's the best example, and I've talked about it before, about a guy who was really good and became really bad in a short period of time.
02:25:57.000Those conversations are so brutal, too.
02:26:00.000When you have long-form conversations, like on a podcast, and say all the things you were talking about, whether it's we're talking about the Cancel Corbett thing, or racism, or privilege, these are like long discussions.
02:26:12.000They're long debates where if you're going to really get to the heart of something and find out a person's real opinions on something, it's a very subtle and nuanced sort of a thing.
02:26:23.000You need to really be able to talk for long periods of time.
02:27:08.000When you discuss the subject of marijuana in teenagers, if you're discussing it like that, or discuss the subject of the NFL telling players that they can't or can use marijuana and whether or not you support that.
02:27:21.000What you're supporting if you support that they can tell players they can't use it.
02:27:25.000You're supporting people having control over their employees.
02:27:49.000They're more just in the moment of playing basketball than realizing, oh, this might be game seven of this playoff game.
02:27:55.000Do you know what I'm saying to a point where it chills them out?
02:27:57.000You don't like to smoke the weed that much, but when you smoke the weed and you do things, whether it's jujitsu or playing pool, those are two things I can speak of, you play better.
02:29:02.000They have a stand-up show, but usually before the stand-up show, sometimes there's an improv troupe or there's an open mic.
02:29:09.000Which can be like two hours long, so people are hotboxing in there, and everybody's smoking weed the whole time before the stand-up show even starts.
02:29:18.000And then the stand-up show starts, and there's usually like two or three people go on before the headliner, and everybody's just hotboxing, smoking weed, smoking weed.
02:29:26.000So when you walk out, you're just walking into this, just this...
02:29:30.000Room of fucking weed smoke, and it looks like gorillas in the mist.
02:29:35.000Like, you just see black objects moving in the background under this cloud of smoke, and by the time my foot hits the stage, I am gone.
02:31:35.000And she did something on Saturday Night Live where she did an old bit that she's been doing together about how she would have been a first-round draft pick in Slave Days.
02:31:45.000Because she would put out great slaves.
02:31:47.000And she did it on there and the internet explodes.
02:34:17.000I actually tweeted the comic that did it and he wrote me back saying that he took down all of his posts about it and he retracted everything about it.
02:34:51.000If you like what he says, you reward him by going to his shows, buying his CD. If you don't like it, you don't go to his shows, you don't buy his CDs.
02:34:59.000I disagree because I think that if someone is saying something evil and hurtful, that there's nothing wrong with going after that.
02:35:06.000Nothing wrong with pointing out that something is evil or hurtful.
02:35:10.000But when something is just a joke about themselves and their own body and their own race and their own origins, I mean, and the idea that this is...
02:39:23.000I did a bit about the time, I was a big Tool fan at the time, and I did, and I still am, but I did a bit about when I got pulled over by the cops and they wrote me a ticket for like $2.50 for speeding and he handed it to me and I said, thank you.
02:39:38.000And I remember how stupid that was to say, thank you for this fucking ticket.
02:39:42.000And at the time, I'm like, that's like saying thank you after you get prison raped.
02:39:46.000And I used the line, I'm breathing, so I guess I'm still alive.
02:39:49.000Thank you, which is a lyric from a Tool song.
02:39:52.000And I did it on stage because I was showcasing for Jamie.
02:39:55.000And Jamie made me this thing, Showcase Regular, where I would always just get to showcase.
02:39:59.000And then I just became a regular really quick.
02:40:02.000And I was going to do a showcase, and Jamie didn't show up, so I'm like, I'm just going to do my regular set, you know?
02:40:07.000And so I go up, and I start doing my act, and I do that joke, where I basically did the joke, and I got done, I got huge laughs, and I'm leaving there, and all these comics who were my friends were hanging out in the Laugh Factory lobby, and it was like Butch Bradley and a couple other people,
02:40:23.000and Dane was there, and I didn't really know Dane, but I knew of Dane, so I'm leaving with Scott Ross at the time.
02:40:35.000So I'm saying goodbye to everyone, and I'm with Scott Ross, who was my roommate at the time, and I say goodbye to everybody, and I saw Dan go, hey Dane, thank you.
02:40:43.000I'm like, hey Dane, I'll see you later.
02:40:45.000And he goes, oh, by the way, you're doing my bit.
02:41:18.000Thank you to all my fans and friends over my career.
02:41:22.000I'm starting a new film next week, writing my next one, and prepping a lot for press tours and interviews over the next couple months for Planes 2. A huge surprise.
02:41:38.000I have let go over my past that held me and I've embraced a future that is whatever I want it to be.
02:41:44.000I've worked with wonderful charity organizations over the years and I'm grateful to have always given back and being mindful that the future success depends on how I can create for others now.
02:42:32.000He's, you know, it's interesting, guys that were, like, in this great place at one point in time, and then everything is kind of, like, kicked out from under them, you know?
02:42:41.000And with Dane, like, the allegations of plagiarism, the Louis C.K. thing, it's very similar in a lot of ways to the Carlos Mencia thing.
02:43:03.000I mean, you'll always, no matter what, you'll always have a core group of fans that no matter what people say with you, about you, they're going to stick with you.
02:43:10.000But that Dane Cook thing was so crazy that people were sending it to me.
02:45:46.000What if you did one, it was an Italian guy and he had a wife beater on with spaghetti stains on and a lot of gold chains and he went on stage.
02:45:52.000Maybe there's some fucking morons in the Italian-American anti-defamation league who complain about it, but you're telling me that people don't exist that look like that?
02:46:01.000That's why, for me, who's predominantly Italian, wouldn't have a problem with someone to be on stage with a white beater on and gold chains with pizza stains on it.
02:46:09.000I mean, you could make a stereotypical Italian outfit and no one care.
02:48:05.000Let's see if I can find a video of it.
02:48:06.000I just don't understand why looking like someone or a parody of someone has to be anti.
02:48:12.000And I use my own nationality, but I guess Italians, they're so fucking cocky into being Italian that they're not really marginalized by their, uh...
02:48:22.000Well, there were people who, like, I had a cousin, my cousin who's Italian.
02:50:38.000If you're going to make a parody of an old black boxer, and you had a guy who could speak very well, and he looked like that guy, and if you got Ian Edwards to do Floyd Mayweather, would that be a stereotype?
02:50:50.000Is it a stereotype when there's a real person that's like that?