Joe Rogan Experience #515 - Ari Shaffir (Part 2)
Summary
In this episode of What We Call A Podcastette, the boys discuss the pros and cons of Ting, a new mobile service from Sprint that gives you a better deal on cell phone service. Also, the guys discuss the best and worst new cell phone brands, and what they think of the new iPhone 5s and the new Galaxy Note 4s. They also talk about the future of socialized medicine and why we should stop calling our friends and family "friends" and start calling them "friends." Also, they talk about why they think we should call our phones "phones" and why it's a better name than a "smartphone." And they give their thoughts on the new Samsung Galaxy S7 and the Samsung Galaxy Note 3. Also, we talk about how we should name our phones something other than "smartphones". And we give our thoughts on why we don't call them cell phones anymore and why they should be called "smarties." This episode is brought to you by Ting. Ting is a mobile service that rents time on the backbone of the Sprint network and gives you the same service you get from Sprint, but at a much better rate and is much more convenient and cheaper than Sprint. And if you use their service, you can save yourself $25 off any service you use, you get twice as much time and you get 20% off your bill. and get twice the service you pay for what you use on your phone. Ting has a better service. We also give you the best service in the world! is giving you the chance to save money on a better phone service and get 10% off of your bill, plus free shipping on your first bill, and they give you an extra $5 off your first month, plus a discount on your next bill when you sign up for an ad-free version of the service, and you can get an ad discount when you shop at Ting gets $25 and get $5 more when you use the service gets $10,000, they also get $25,000 and they also gets $5,000 in free shipping and they get $50, they get a $25 discount on their first month and they receive $25 gets $50 off their first promo code, plus they get an additional $50 discount when they start shipping free, they'll also get a free ad-only shipping starts after a year of the ad is reviewed, they receive a discount.
Transcript
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If we were on a network, we would never just say, hey, can we do another hour?
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This episode, this episodeette, we'll call it an episodeette, is brought to you by Ting.
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Like, why do people still call them cell phones and mobile phones?
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But mobile means, like, we can move it with it, right?
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But if you have an iPhone, it's more than just...
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If you have an iPhone 5, that's not just a mobile phone.
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That motherfucker has a computer in your pocket.
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They use the Sprint backbone and they rent time on it and then give you the same service that you would get if you had Sprint, but at a very reasonable rate.
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There's just two fucking weirdos that somehow or another have strange data usage and they wouldn't save money.
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Ting has, the way Ting is set up is you only pay for what you use, which I think is what the whole world is going to have to do in the future.
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Because just like you used to have to pay for long distance if you called your friend in New York, you remember that?
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A homeless guy asking about his cell phone and saying it's not long distance.
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But what they do is they only charge you for what you use.
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So, because of that, like, you don't have, like, a lot of people, they'll have a plan, 100 minutes, or whatever the hell it is.
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A lot of times you use way less than that, especially with phone calls.
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Or probably way less phone calls than you would just a few years ago because people text so much.
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But you oftentimes don't use all your minutes, but you don't get credit for those.
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Yeah, you didn't use it while you were paying for it.
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They also have the best Android phones that you could buy.
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They have the Samsung Galaxy S3. They have that Moto Max that we were talking about.
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They have that LG G Flex Samsung Galaxy S5. Galaxy Note 3 is what I meant to say.
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And that HTC, the HTC One, the M8, which is pretty fucking slick.
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And if you use rogan.ting.com, you can save yourself $25 off any new phone.
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So we will do an abbreviated version of the commercials.
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This, by the way, is the size of most people's whole podcast.
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You train and then the night comes and you stop training.
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We talked about so many other things besides the stories about China.
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So you were about to tell some crazy noodle story.
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That sounds like a fucking truck fell over outside.
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You pick it up, they roast it, give it back to you.
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It's also used some other way, but I don't know.
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Except a couple times I would be about to go into a noodle store or something, like a shop, and I'd have to call my friend.
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They gave me burner phones, which was nice, that I could use.
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And I was like, hey, how do you say noodles and how do you say beef?
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And they would tell me both words and I would just go in.
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One of the guys from the Matrix movie is the word for beef.
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What's the main guy from the, what was his name?
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But I said that, and then they point to the fucking menu.
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Where if you would be like, learn the language!
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Of course, it doesn't really feel that way, ladies and gentlemen.
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The comments on those are the best parts of them.
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So they have these noodles, these street noodles you can get.
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And I was advised the first day, like, you don't want those.
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Show me this video that I can send you right now.
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Here, put your email here and then just send it to me.
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So to get the oil, what they would do is they would go to the sewer.
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They would take raw sewage out of the sewer and then boil it down the way they'd make wax, hash wax.
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They'd boil off the sewage and whatever was left, that's cooking oil that they would use.
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And then sell to like a lot of the street noodle guys.
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So it's not like that's the only way they do it.
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No, but the street places were like, you run a risk here.
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She opens up a manhole cover and scoops out as much slop as she can, delighted by what she finds.
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What others might view as revolting, she sees as a bonanza.
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She works in the streets of the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen, a foot soldier in China's so-called gutter oil industry.
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She's scooping out That slop eventually winds up in a processing plant like this one, where it's combined with other animal fat refuse to create recycled cooking oil.
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Workers put the oil in barrels for delivery to restaurants at hotels.
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Cooking oil has long been a cherished commodity in China, where stir frying in a wok is the mainstay of daily meal preparation.
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The high profit margins from gutter oil production have proven irresistible.
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Illegal production sites are often discovered after people living nearby notice a nauseating stench and alert the authorities.
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When you're pouring it from the bucket and you hear the...
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That's the first time I've ever had a look away on a show.
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Because you knew where it's headed to someone's food.
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I've got to assume when I see that, when it said where it was, I'm like, I probably had some gutter oil.
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My friend who was there said, he was like, yeah, I mean, I ate it for a little while.
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When you see the worst case scenarios about China.
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Did you ever see that HBO documentary about them selling bait?
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I think it was HBO. They were selling children.
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This one boy was screaming because his dad sold his brother away.
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And they were interviewing the guy who sold his kid.
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And he was like, look, I didn't have any money.
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But to me, when I see stuff like that, when I see that guy that was saying that people swindle people, when you see the whole gutter oil thing, it's like humanity, if shit gets bad, if people are in a bad spot, people go real bad.
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They don't think, I'm not concerned with who gets this.
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How much shit did you have to shovel to get your house?
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And you have to continue shoveling shit in order to pay for that house.
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She's not buying a house with cash, like showing up.
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I've seen more disgusting shit than almost any other person who's a comedian.
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Right there, and helped people get through eating things.
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I could smell the shit as she was scooping it up.
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Brian Callen told me he was in China, and they were at a restaurant, and the restaurant had pigs underneath the restaurant.
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Yeah, they were like in containers underneath the restaurant.
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And then they realized, his mom asked, and realized that when you shit, the shit was going down to where the pigs were.
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You're squatting like you were talking about in the first podcast before this one.
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Yeah, we did another podcast a couple hours ago.
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Ari was talking about how you go into these bathrooms and there's a hole in the ground.
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But again, that's what happens when people just, when it goes bad.
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They said the hashish in Hong Kong was cut with up to 25%.
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What does hash cut with shoe polish smell like?
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It's got to have a turpentine-y sort of a smell to it.
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You'd open up your grandpa's shoe polish and you'd smell it.
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Whenever you're in your fucking apartment, you're in a business.
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That's the beautiful thing about being a comic.
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Yeah, I got some technically in my business right now.
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You're in the business of writing fucked up things down that will eventually become jokes.
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It might not be your business, but it's a fucking business.
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I'm going to beat off on myself and watch cartoons.
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I'm hoping that in watching all this porn, I can come up with a joke about me watching all this porn.
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Yeah, that's the beautiful thing about being a comic.
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Anything you're interested in, like anything you pursue online, could potentially be a bit.
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Any idea that you read online that you find fascinating, you can find, if it strikes you, you can find a comic angle to it.
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Exactly, anything you care about, enough to look at.
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And it's almost like today we're spoiled because every day there's some new ridiculous story that goes on that could be like an awesome bit and they just keep flying by.
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And they're like, oh no, guys, don't forget about the story because I'm already doing a bit about it.
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Well, even if people forget about it, you can reinvigorate the idea, but the idea is that you forget about them, because there's so many of them.
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I'm constantly retweeting things where I'm like, what?
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Like I'll retweet it and go, I gotta write a bit about that, but it just goes by the wayside.
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If you look online, like, if you have a bunch of good Twitter feeds that you follow, you'll find some of the most ridiculous articles and stories.
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A fucking American tourist got caught in a giant vagina statue in Germany.
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Headline, just the one word, the top of the website.
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U.S. student is rescued from a giant vagina sculpture in Germany.
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They should have just hacked his legs off with an axe.
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Just grabbed the axe and he would have figured out a way to get out of it.
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First of all, why do you have a vagina sculpture in Germany, you fucking weirdos?
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What an odd choice to have a fucking vagina sculpture.
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But meanwhile, vaginas are fucking super important.
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Yeah, if it wasn't for vaginas, there'd really be no people.
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But isn't that funny that for whatever reason, like, it's a bad thing to have a vagina sculpture?
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Shoulders, shoulders, up to shoulders like this.
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But as long as the boobs are colored and you're an angel, that's okay.
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You need a thing like that in your town square.
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If you scroll down, Jamie, there's a picture of this fucking poor slob with his goofy glasses.
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Yeah, the headline was that poor slob gets stuck in a statue.
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This fucking crazy bitch got so far down and so stuffed into this thing that he couldn't move his legs.
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Like, they had to figure out how to get him out of that thing.
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Just go to photos, because this is the kind of shit that gets us kicked off of YouTube.
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So he fell over or something, and then he climbed in like an idiot, and his legs got smushed.
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They probably all jerked off on him to lube it up.
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Americans, what does it feel like telling people in another country like China that you're American?
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Chinese people, you didn't really talk to much.
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She was at this bar that I performed at, or right next door in this area.
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I thought she was in my show, but then later I wasn't positive.
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Apparently, they have a thing, according to this guy who posted on the Rogan board.
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She knew a couple of words, but then you got a vibe.
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Did you feel like you were some crazy foreigner?
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Yeah, and then he was also saying that when you break up with them, they go fucking crazy.
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He was saying that he had a real problem with that.
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It's actually from July 23rd of 2010. So it's a four-year-old thread.
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And it just recently got bumped up, probably, I mean, maybe because of you being there.
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This guy talking about his experiences being a white guy in China and just dating chicks.
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He never was into Chinese chicks until he went to China.
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Yeah, a lot of times, like, you gotta have some, like, you know, meat on your bones.
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He said that the Chinese people that lived there that ate McDonald's grew tits.
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It was like one of his things that they were saying.
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That the ones who ate a lot of McDonald's food.
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It's his McTits theory that the foreigners have formulated over there.
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But if they live off McDonald's, they have tits.
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But he was saying that they mistake 40-year-olds for 30-year-olds or younger.
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Immigrant workers, when they get off, they're just looking to fuck.
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I mean, I've never seen anybody party like that.
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On Sundays, they get off, and they have very little rights, but Sundays, they don't work.
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And they just fill up the markets, and they all dance.
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They're all line dancing together by the Bay, drinking.
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Yeah, but like the Chinese music, but absolutely.
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So do you think they're all bottled up and then they get that one day so they just enjoy the fuck out of it?
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Some comics have days off all the time, and they get super lazy and forget to appreciate those days off.
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Eddie Bravo always talks about learning to appreciate life, that sometimes in the middle of it, it's really difficult to appreciate it, and that you've got to force yourself to really step back and appreciate how awesome this is.
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Yeah, once in a while, I'll get a new comic that'll be like...
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Like, genuinely, like, man, you got your name on the wall at the comedy store.
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It's a bunch of fucking names where you go, come on, man.
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If they would take those names down, I wouldn't be mad if they took mine down.
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Yeah, they thought he slipped through the cracks and they put him up another time and then he didn't slip through the cracks.
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But that's how late they are about not taking names down.
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Like, what about that comic that was like a rapist?
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He would say creepy religious shit to them, like, pray for me.
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I remember not knowing who that guy was, but the people that did know who that guy was were like, oh, I could see that.
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I don't know why I'm scared of the food guy getting raped.
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Well, a lot of people find Adam Richmond annoying, so a lot of the comedy community was like, I can see you, I can see you.
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Right, but isn't annoying a sign of being a clueless fuck, and isn't a clueless fuck a sign of being selfish, and isn't being selfish the type of person?
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Yeah, he's also drunk, and he said he was getting aggressive to the cops.
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He said he was getting a little aggressive, and then they have some 911 audio of him, her going, put your fucking dick away.
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There's a real problem when you have sexual urges, idiots, and alcohol.
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But also being an idiot, you know, you're not a sexual assaulter.
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You wouldn't hold someone down and do something creepy to them if you were drunk.
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One time I was jumping out with Amy Kerfer in college, just a friend, just kissing and stuff.
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And I was like, come on, trying to get in her pants.
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Like, kissing was as far as it was going to go.
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And then as soon as I locked the door, I took one step back.
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But we've all been in that situation where a girl's like, no.
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Yeah, but you add, like, idiocy, sexual urges, and alcohol is a fucking terrible, terrible, terrible combination.
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It's like the worst combination of drugs to dating is what you get.
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People relax, have a couple drinks, it loosens up the vibe.
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You might get a little loose and silly and have fun and be more likely to fool around.
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You know, at a certain point, you gotta realize that that's not everybody.
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It's like we were talking about earlier in the podcast, that I don't know what happens to some people when they drink.
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Yeah, you've seen that switch that goes off and they're not there anymore.
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Yeah, one of them's got a portrait in the bathroom.
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When you see that man, you know that that guy shouldn't be drinking booze around women if he has a sexual urge because it's just going to be a disaster.
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Can you imagine being a chick and dudes are trying to drug you?
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How many girls have you talked to that have been roofied?
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Well, the ones I roofied, but that doesn't count.
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Wasn't Bill Cosby in trouble for some shit like that?
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Second only to Martin Luther King, an important black man?
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Why doesn't anyone care about the sexual assault allegations against Bill Cosby?
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Those allegations that people agree that when someone's famous enough, we're just not going to care.
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There was a girl at the comedy store who claimed somebody raped her.
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You're not going to come out vehemently on the side of the door guy.
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You might be like, I'm not going to get involved.
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And then a few months later, she accused someone else of raping her.
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And then eight months after that, she accused a third person of raping her.
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I was like, why do you keep hanging out at the rape house?
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I'm starting to believe that maybe none of this happened.
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Well, that was the girl who claimed that Mike Tyson raped her.
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She had made a false allegation when she was 18 about another guy.
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He probably did a bunch of bad shit, but in that situation, it seemed like that girl went back up to his room wanting to fuck.
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I don't want to speculate because I wasn't there.
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But there's a lot of shit going on when you have someone who's got a false allegation.
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Those Duke players, they all lost their season.
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It's way worse to rape someone than it is to falsely accuse someone of rape.
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Falsely accusing someone of rape, although horrific, in my idea, my hierarchy of crimes, is slightly lower.
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What if the same amount of violence happened to you because of...
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Like if you go to jail and then guys rape you because you didn't really rape a girl.
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If the punishment for rape is a just punishment, if it's like, okay, that's about right, you know, like that eight months for purse snatching, like that's too much.
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Whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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Thirteen women have accused Bill Cosby of drugging them.
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I mean, who knows what the fuck happened, but, you know, and I don't want to be callous about it.
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I'm just saying who knows because I don't know, but that don't look good.
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Bill Cosby ain't drugging any of those bitches.
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He just gives them that sweet, thick, that candy jello pudding covered pop.
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That's not a good amount of, that's not a good number.
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Yeah, they were telling, everybody keeps telling me you gotta go see him live.
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Yeah, to be there for experience of like, it was fun and like childhood-like.
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People are shitting on his special and people are like, how can you show a special?
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Like, because we're not shitting on his legacy.
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He's definitely a great artist as far as the bulk of his stand-up comedy history.
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He's a great, great comedian for the longest time.
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I watched a little bit of it on Comedy Central and I never got a chance to see it in Vegas.
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Yeah, but do you have more or less respect for him if you drug 14 chicks?
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That seems like if his special sucks, that's not nearly as disappointing.
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It's like, you've got to be more honest on stage.
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If that's what you're going to really do, you've got to deal with that from your act.
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Could you imagine if he's like this squeaky clean guy, but he's really doing just dirty, drugging chicks and Like that Price is Right guy?
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The other guy who was on Hogan's Heroes was the host of Family Feud.
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That's why he kissed the ladies, because he was so fucking a horndog.
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Slinging dick with that fucking beautiful vest on.
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I got a suit made with a three-piece like that.
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No, I retweeted you poking Bruce Lee in the dick.
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Yeah, that one got the most, like, favorites I've ever gotten.
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Is he, like, the biggest star to ever come out of Hong Kong?
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Imagine the other Chinese dudes like, what the fuck do I have to do?
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That guy's been there for 30 years, Rocky, the guy on the left.
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And that other guy has been doing tailoring for like 45 years.
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Yeah, they pick out a fabric, they measure you, and then you come back the next day to measure it on your body, see what they've got to take in and stuff, and then you come back a couple days later, pick up your suit.
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That's what they did for me for the UFC. Oh, the UFC finally told you, like, we're going to do this for you?
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You can get it made for your fucking garbage can body type.
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The clothes work fine, although they're a little tight.
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It's like a stretchy fabric, so it doesn't feel bad that it's tight.
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There's like a slim look that people wear these days.
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And there's suits like with the one button and like, fuck, black man and like fucking cool suits.
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I don't think I can show you from the bottom up.
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Like, if you're a comedian, you wear Chuck Taylors with a nice suit.
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There was a time where they were giving out development deals like fucking crazy.
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For comedians and, more importantly, for writers.
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And so I had a development deal with Fox at the time.
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Right after news radio ended, I got this development deal.
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When you're done with this, you've got to tell another story.
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And they gave him this giant fucking development deal.
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Turns out he was actually a partner of a funny guy.
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So I go in to meet with him and he's wearing bowling shoes.
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Oh, he's a wacky guy who wears bowling shoes because he's silly.
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So this guy's talking to me about plots and this and that, and I'm looking at his bowling shoes.
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And I got out of there, and Sussman said the same thing to me.
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Because he was thinking that's how you become a funny guy.
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You've got to walk around with bowling shoes on.
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The script that he wrote was such a massive hunk of shit.
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He got cursed in Egypt and banged chicks through the end of time to the future and had all these sexual dilemmas.
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It was like you would read it and you would go, who could have thought this was funny?
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I was in the office with the Fox people when they brought it to me and, you know, they have this, like, did you read it?
00:41:03.000
And they're like, well, I mean, it's important.
00:41:12.000
The idea is that, like, maybe you comedians know how to make things laugh, make people laugh.
00:41:17.000
But what you don't know is how to structure a story.
00:41:20.000
Nobody really cares about the structure of the story.
00:41:22.000
But when they say stuff like that, like story structure, you know what?
00:41:27.000
You probably won't know what this means, so I'll just say it so you won't argue with me.
00:41:30.000
Well, there's guys who know how to write movies or books that are really good at story structure.
00:41:45.000
Stories are important, but funny stories are...
00:41:51.000
Because he knew how to make a funny, thorough through line.
00:42:00.000
I went out for an audition for some part, I told you this, but I read it, you know, some best friend character, and the casting director was like, okay, that was good, my only note, you didn't do any of the lines.
00:42:25.000
I read it and I was like, get the fuck out of here.
00:42:27.000
They're making a big push through the comedian community.
00:42:30.000
It got to me and I was like, because I'm not completely out of the loop.
00:42:38.000
So when it comes to me, it's coming to me completely out of the blue.
00:42:43.000
The only person I've ever acted with is Kevin James because we're friends in the last decade plus.
00:42:49.000
So, I was like, well, maybe it's just really good.
00:42:53.000
And then I heard what you did, and I was like, that's how to handle it.
00:42:56.000
I asked my manager, like, hey, I said yes before I read it.
00:42:59.000
So now, can I just fuck around and have fun, or should I just not go?
00:43:03.000
I don't want to get you in trouble with the casting director.
00:43:04.000
She goes, Ari, I'm never going to tell you not to do what you want to do.
00:43:10.000
Yeah, but that's how they make a piece of shit sitcom.
00:43:13.000
You always wonder how you take a funny guy and make a fucking terrible sitcom with him.
00:43:16.000
Hook him up with some shitty writer who just whips it out in a week, who doesn't care about it at all.
00:43:20.000
Some dickhead wearing bowling shoes, thinking he's wacky.
00:43:26.000
Well, that's the beautiful thing about being a comic, about detaching yourself from that ridiculous system.
00:43:33.000
Like, for the longest time, we were all taught that we had to get a sitcom.
00:43:44.000
Even if you just want to go on the road, that's the only way you're going to go on the road and have a draw.
00:43:52.000
And then suddenly you're like, I just lost faith in television.
00:43:58.000
It was like a girl you're trying to fuck all the time.
00:44:01.000
After a while, it's like, I'm not even mad at you.
00:44:10.000
Is that Dane Cook inspired me to use social media more.
00:44:13.000
You could do this without the TV, the approval of some guy.
00:44:17.000
Well, he inspired me to use social media in a promotion way.
00:44:22.000
I never used it before, but I saw the results that he got, which were insanely good.
00:44:27.000
I mean, he got results from performances, for sure.
00:44:29.000
But he also got results because of the fact that he had so many Myspace friends.
00:44:33.000
Yeah, he capitalized on those results of the shows.
00:44:40.000
So that got me really into MySpace, which got me really into Twitter, which got me...
00:44:44.000
I'd always had a message board, but that's also when Brian and I started working together and he started creating videos and that also.
00:44:50.000
Oh yeah, message board was nice, but it's not the same.
00:44:59.000
But once you see he showed the way a little bit where it's like, guys, we don't need them anymore.
00:45:05.000
And when I saw it, I was looking at what he created by breaking through like that.
00:45:12.000
I was like, ooh, there's going to come a point in time.
00:45:16.000
All that's going to matter is how many people you can connect with online.
00:45:19.000
Like, whatever you can create that people, whether it's one of those videos that Brian used to do, or whether it's a blog entry, or whether it's a stand-up comedy clip, or whether it's a podcast, which didn't even exist back then.
00:45:39.000
But that was one of the things that led us to doing those Justin.tv, those Justin.tv things.
00:45:45.000
Oh yeah, those were the first kind of podcasts we did.
00:45:48.000
We used to do these, I used to have a thing that connected to my laptop that would stream the internet from a cell phone.
00:45:57.000
Oh yeah, we didn't have Wi-Fi in the Cobbs green room.
00:46:02.000
It was when cell phone data was first starting to make its way to laptops with these little USB things.
00:46:09.000
And then they started making some ThinkPads and some certain laptops that had cellular connections built into them.
00:46:22.000
So even if there's no No wifi, I can still get on.
00:46:25.000
I can still look at websites and shit like that.
00:46:32.000
It's way better than trying to look at something on your phone.
00:46:39.000
But back then, when we were in that room and we were streaming it from that little clunky USB thing that would stick in there, that all started out because of Dane Cook.
00:46:50.000
He wasn't doing that, but he did something online that I thought was extraordinary.
00:46:55.000
I tell comics too, when they're like, everyone's got a podcast, it's not going to be big.
00:47:09.000
The beautiful thing about podcasts is that it's about merit.
00:47:15.000
Joey Diaz is not famous for anything other than being awesome.
00:47:25.000
Joey Diaz got famous from doing podcasts, from people realizing what a funny fucking guy he is.
00:47:36.000
When Dane Cook popped out of the scene, that was when I first became aware, like, whoa, the internet isn't just for looking at stuff, it's for putting stuff out.
00:47:54.000
Because we all support each other, and we tweet each other shit, and we pump each other up.
00:47:58.000
We do shows together, like you, me, Duncan Diaz, Red Band, Eddie Bravo.
00:48:03.000
Everybody's all connected in this little thing.
00:48:05.000
And because of that, because of that connection, it makes for an even bigger force, an even bigger impact.
00:48:13.000
Like, Tripoli's fucking CD was number two on iTunes, man.
00:48:19.000
Took the gun out of his mouth for like a week and a half.
00:48:25.000
And also, he sees the light at the end of the tunnel.
00:48:31.000
Fucking headline all over the place on the road now.
00:48:38.000
And then he went back and packed that comedy club the next week.
00:48:41.000
Yeah, I was wondering that the first couple times I did it with you where it wasn't like the next week, but it was like within some time.
00:48:46.000
And I'm like, well, let's call the club owner and make sure they're okay with it because we already had this thing booked, you know.
00:48:50.000
But then a couple of them are like, yeah, it's okay.
00:48:53.000
And then you realize you're telling way more people.
00:48:57.000
And you're going to kill in front of those 2,000 people at the River Cree and they're going to tell them, oh, we went to see this guy, Ari Shafir.
00:49:07.000
At a club, if you get 30 people extra a show, they're like, thank you so much.
00:49:12.000
And a club like that that consistently gets- Edmonton's a good room.
00:49:18.000
We were on the plane and Adam Hunter was there.
00:49:22.000
Yeah, I was going up to Edmonton a couple of weeks ago and I ran into Hunter on a plane.
00:49:27.000
Yeah, and Hunter was up there doing that comedy club.
00:49:39.000
That's owned by the same people who talked me out of jail time at Mall of America.
00:49:59.000
I had a conversation with someone about this today.
00:50:02.000
Someone who was talking about medical marijuana and marijuana being legal in Colorado and, you know, because I was just in Colorado.
00:50:09.000
Someone popped around and it's in the Rockies game until the fourth inning.
00:50:22.000
We were talking about all this shit that's going down in Iraq.
00:50:26.000
And I said that if Iraq gets really ugly and things start happening, like really bad, and then someone blames Obama and they blame Democrats and they blame weakness.
00:50:39.000
People are dissatisfied with Obama so Hillary doesn't have a chance.
00:50:46.000
And then, that same type of thinking, it's like Chris Christie style, that tries to like, medical marijuana will never be legal in my state, marijuana will never be legal in my state, children are losing, they're dying out there, their fucking brains are rotting, their feet are exploding,
00:51:02.000
inside their shoes, their dicks are falling off.
00:51:05.000
These guys, they're all like in that sort of vein.
00:51:09.000
When a Chris Christie in 2014 is spreading disinformation, he's a guy who's...
00:51:15.000
Crazy shit about cannabis and the effects on the human brain.
00:51:19.000
I heard Nancy Grace has been super into pot for the last six months.
00:51:30.000
She probably realizes she's got to get out of that business.
00:51:33.000
She keeps talking about the crime spree in Denver.
00:51:45.000
This guy that I had this conversation with, the conversation was worried about what happens in 2016. Because if 2016 snaps over and becomes super Republican, you know, things sort of go in and out.
00:52:01.000
He's worried what will happen if we go super Republican?
00:52:03.000
You had the 60s, and then you had the 70s, and then you had the 80s, which was Nancy Reagan, just say no.
00:52:12.000
Seems like when it snaps back, too, it snaps back harder.
00:52:16.000
And then people are like, that's what they want.
00:52:18.000
They go, super, and then eventually one of them will just win.
00:52:33.000
Ronald Reagan gave the speech that all the wacky UFO dudes always point to as evidence that the alien invasion is imminent.
00:52:41.000
It was Ronald Reagan talking about how quickly we would abandon our differences if we faced a threat from an alien world.
00:52:50.000
And when he said it, people were like, what the fuck did you just say?
00:52:55.000
There's no way he would say that other than if there was aliens.
00:53:00.000
I mean, it is kind of, we would realize that we are citizens of the world if we were facing a threat from another world.
00:53:11.000
Pull that up, Jamie, because it's quite fascinating.
00:53:12.000
Gene Roddenberry's view of the world later was like, Earth comes together.
00:53:22.000
I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.
00:53:34.000
And yet, I ask you, is not an alien force already among us?
00:53:40.000
What could be more alien to the universal aspirations of our peoples than war and the threat of war?
00:53:50.000
You know, Ronald Reagan was an old fuck, and he died confused and selling arms to Iran and allegedly forgetting about it.
00:54:04.000
I remember when I was a kid, when Ronald Reagan was president, people fucking hated him.
00:54:20.000
And back then in Boston, he was just starting to become political.
00:54:23.000
He was on a tape of like, expose at the comedy store.
00:54:45.000
Yeah, and then you've got Arsenio Hall because he's watching with Mitzi in the back.
00:54:48.000
He goes, sometimes you just, I forget what he said, Mike Long's like, you just don't got it.
00:55:19.000
That's an example of someone who's a little bit more.
00:55:21.000
I would have eaten a plate of shit up there, too.
00:55:22.000
You would have jumped at the chance to be on 2020, though.
00:55:25.000
Jumped at the chance and ate a fat pile of shit.
00:55:41.000
And they said, you know, did you sell arms to Iran?
00:55:48.000
Yeah, and Tingle goes, Mr. President, when you sell arms to people who hate us, jot it down.
00:56:21.000
Tell the story of how you got that first development deal.
00:56:28.000
I had a development deal to do an offer to do a show on MTV. And how much was that offer, Joe?
00:56:37.000
The story I heard, I think I remember it being like $500.
00:56:47.000
It was like they give you money for a week to do this pilot.
00:56:52.000
And then if you did that pilot, you were locked up for years.
00:57:02.000
Decided to take my tape and then he was send it out to all these different development companies.
00:57:09.000
Like, you know, NBC and CBS. Well, he's just a wizard when it comes to planning shit.
00:57:15.000
So he sent this thing out and said, hey, this guy's about to sign a development deal for MTV. If you want to do something with him, you got to act now.
00:57:24.000
And then all of a sudden my phone was ringing off the hook.
00:57:28.000
I couldn't stay in my house because people were calling me.
00:57:30.000
They were saying they were going to send a flight out for me.
00:57:33.000
You're going to fly out of LA tonight and meet us in LA. Wow.
00:57:36.000
Or fly out of New York tonight, meet us in LA in the morning.
00:57:42.000
morning meeting with this guy at this executive, this fucking network, this fucking thing.
00:58:02.000
Within two days, it had just gotten completely crazy.
00:58:05.000
And then I think a couple days after that, I had a development deal with Disney.
00:58:10.000
And the next thing you know, I was fucking flying out there and talking to these guys.
00:58:15.000
Flying to L.A. and talking to these people, Gary Valentine stayed in my hotel room with me because Gary was out here huffing, and Kevin James had just won Last Comic Standing.
00:58:31.000
Kevin won Star Search, so it was like a big deal.
00:58:34.000
He definitely won a few rounds, whatever it was.
00:58:48.000
He doesn't do it much anymore because he does a lot of movies.
00:59:07.000
He just used their ability to not be able to decide for themselves.
00:59:12.000
Well, he was also pissed off because the executives at MTV, they had this idea.
00:59:23.000
So they did it with Dennis Leary and Dennis Leary left.
00:59:25.000
And so they're like, we're not going to do that again.
00:59:47.000
The idea that your one network is valuable is preposterous.
00:59:51.000
Back then, it was valuable because there weren't that many fucking channels.
00:59:54.000
There was no history channel, discovery channel, sci-fi, Spike TV. All that shit didn't exist.
00:59:59.000
So MTV... Fucking Netflix now, where there's Xbox that's starting their own channel.
01:00:06.000
Back then, it was like MTV had remote control, and MTV created Jenny McCarthy.
01:00:18.000
And for the longest time, Jenny McCarthy was a famous one, and Chris Hardwick was the one that nobody knew who the fuck he was, and he vanished.
01:00:25.000
Now Chris Hardwick is bawling because of the podcast world.
01:00:36.000
With Jenny McCarthy and some chick who's got a nice ass.
01:00:50.000
He had a good joke when we were in open mics together.
01:01:29.000
Fucking Verizon will not turn on my internet service.
01:01:33.000
He's 52. Complaining of headaches, chronic chest pain, flu-like symptoms.
01:01:57.000
And it was supposed to be taking place in Ken Ober's basement.
01:02:00.000
The idea was that his parents had a basement and he always wanted to have his own show, so he put his show together.
01:02:10.000
They had a show with the chick from the Brady Bunch.
01:02:26.000
And then MTV started doing these things with him.
01:02:44.000
That's like from his show, that 80s show, The Wedding Singer.
01:03:10.000
It ran for five seasons from 87 to 1990. They had five seasons in three years?
01:03:24.000
New episodes were made for first-run syndication.
01:03:27.000
How do you convince an executive, like, hey, I want to do something on your network that you just don't do?
01:03:37.000
The people that I talked to that were over there, they wanted to break it up a bit.
01:03:59.000
But if you see, there's a picture of her now on Wikipedia.
01:04:25.000
Way back in the day, like in 1990-something, I think.
01:04:30.000
I think it was like, I want to say it was the Fear Factor days, but it might have been before that.
01:05:17.000
Remember he got in trouble for saying that we're cowards for fucking launching this?
01:05:27.000
No, because when I saw him this first show on HBO afterwards, he like cursed and he goes, this is why we wanted to come here.
01:05:33.000
This is why we wanted to get off network and come here.
01:05:38.000
Quit pretending like you were responsible for that.
01:05:51.000
Fucking Verizon made me wait three times all day long for goddamn technicians who never showed up.
01:06:04.000
Are you fucking, you're really angry at them right now?
01:06:08.000
And you call them, you're like, I get so angry at the customer service.
01:06:12.000
I know they're not to blame, but it's like, fucking, what time are they going to be?
01:06:23.000
Just waiting there for people to don't show up.
01:06:24.000
I still really guarantee you to be on by 5pm today.
01:06:29.000
Dude, you know how you go to someone's page and you know them on Twitter but they don't follow you and you get sad?
01:06:34.000
That's why I just went to Carrie Werwer's page.
01:06:39.000
You just remembered her for the first time in 20 years.
01:06:55.000
I saw a TV show the other day and Wonder Woman was on it.
01:07:19.000
I associated her with Grace Slick from Jefferson Starship.
01:07:34.000
No, Flavor Flav was the girl who used to be married to Sylvester Stallone.
01:07:56.000
Grace Slick was the lead singer of Jefferson's Starship.
01:08:17.000
Let's wrap it up, but this is a comeback to the beginning.
01:08:21.000
It was cool being at that Forbidden City and the Great Wall of China and touching these walls.
01:08:24.000
You're like, this has been here for a long time.
01:08:31.000
I mean, it's not real, but just imagine this, like, emperors have been by here and touched this.
01:08:36.000
They built it to fucking fight off the steppe people.
01:08:41.000
Imagine walking through the forest, trudging and marching through the forest, up and down mountains, these mountainy forests, and then you're getting not even close to their land, and then all of a sudden you're like, what?
01:09:02.000
Guys, do we even know which way is the end of this?
01:09:08.000
Look at you, you sexy bitch with no shirt holding the fucking Chinese flag.
01:09:27.000
Yeah, I walked out to the top pots where people like stop walking and then this one guy's like, you go another this many kilometers, that's like Tower 23, that's as far as you can go.
01:09:38.000
It was so hot and so humid and so many steps, irregular shaped steps.
01:09:47.000
We got up somewhere near the toboggan to get down.
01:09:51.000
But yeah, it's the only man-made object viewable from space.
01:10:32.000
There's elements that you can stick your arrow through and fire down without getting shot.
01:11:09.000
They do this a lot, where they go, we're going to redo all this stuff.
01:11:16.000
They're just like, as if someone was still living here, we're just going to keep it going.
01:11:21.000
And it shows date built, and then date renovated will be like 45 years ago.
01:11:42.000
Did you know that South Korea was smooshed up against China like that?
01:12:04.000
Even years after this is relevant as a defense force.
01:12:08.000
Did you ever see the renovations they're doing to the Sphinx?
01:12:21.000
What they're doing is they're building their own version of it.
01:12:25.000
Yeah, because they're covering over the Sphinx.
01:12:37.000
It's just a really soft stone, and it's all worn out and shit.
01:12:46.000
Look at these pictures, because it's kind of gross, because what they're doing is they're making the feet all smooth and shit, and where the paws are was totally irregular.
01:13:05.000
Jamie, instead of failing, why don't you not fail?
01:13:13.000
That's not what the feet originally looked like.
01:13:19.000
It was originally carved out of one unique set of stone.
01:13:28.000
What a yardang is, is something that comes up out of the desert and then they shape it.
01:13:32.000
It's like, it comes up out of the ground, like a rock structure would be a yardang.
01:13:46.000
But there's a full image of the Sphinx where you could see it from a distance and you get a real sense of what a travesty that is.
01:13:55.000
What they're doing is really kind of fucked up.
01:14:03.000
Like, those feet are not the original Sphinx feet.
01:14:09.000
The rest of the Sphinx used to be, like, everything below the head, all jacked up and fucked up.
01:14:18.000
Well, the thinking is, rather, that originally it was a lion.
01:14:24.000
And that one of the pharaohs was like, fuck that lion head.
01:14:56.000
Have you ever seen what Tutankhamen really looked like?
01:15:10.000
And they had sculptures that were drawn of him.
01:15:16.000
But that doesn't look as weird as when you see a side profile.
01:15:37.000
I think his father was, I want to say Tut Moses, but I might be wrong.
01:15:48.000
And Akhenaten had this very strangely shaped head.
01:15:51.000
And they have these sculptures that were created of Akhenaten.
01:16:00.000
And they don't know whether or not that was a result of headbinding.
01:16:06.000
Could be, but it also could be some weird genetic issue that some of those guys had, and that's one of the reasons why they headbound in the first place, to try to recreate that.
01:16:20.000
You know, like, some people have, like, strange lips.
01:16:24.000
They might have just naturally had weird-shaped heads, and they became bad motherfuckers, and then they all interbred.
01:16:34.000
Some player at Florida State had a head like that.
01:17:13.000
It was this black player that he played with at Florida State that went to the pros afterwards and he shaved his head.
01:17:21.000
What would you do if you had a crazy shaped head and you had your head shaved?
01:17:25.000
What if you're a black guy and you're going bald?
01:17:26.000
Black guys can't rock like the side, like, you know.
01:17:31.000
Doesn't, you know, you can't have side hair and bald on top.
01:17:40.000
They put, like, implants in there to shape the back of your head better?
01:17:44.000
Well, think about all the shit that they do do.
01:17:46.000
Think about all the shit they do for, like, the...
01:18:01.000
You gotta cut them so you can have an over lip on your eyebrows, on your eyelashes, whatever that's called.
01:18:13.000
So they want to get them to look like they fold over.
01:18:33.000
How weird would that be if all of a sudden Bobby Lee had these crazy...
01:18:46.000
See the one that won a Heisman and still played basketball?
01:19:26.000
It's like one of the rare instances where some of these...
01:19:34.000
You gotta get a little more back, but that still looks at the start of it.
01:20:04.000
And then she looks like an amazing 24-year-old.
01:20:10.000
And it's clearly, if you see the jawline, it's clearly the same woman.
01:20:15.000
Look up South Korea eye surgery and you can see that image.
01:20:39.000
She looks like she has Down syndrome in the first one.
01:20:47.000
It's called 30 Startling Before and After South Korean Plastic Surgery Pictures.
01:20:53.000
It's like an advertisement for plastic surgery.
01:21:04.000
Did you hear about that one guy who sued his wife because his kids were ugly?
01:21:09.000
It turned out that she had gotten plastic surgery.
01:21:44.000
A Chinese man divorced his wife and sued her for giving birth to what he called extremely ugly baby girl.
01:21:52.000
At first, he thought his wife had cheated on him because there was no way a good-looking guy like him could have or even produce such an unattractive thing.
01:22:10.000
It was MSN. And then they showed the image of the chick and then the image of the kids and the image of the woman.
01:22:29.000
Can't he take them in for a little chop and snip?
01:22:37.000
What an asshole you'd have to be to give plastic surgery to a baby.
01:22:46.000
They're doing it so much that it's changing the way they envision a woman should look.
01:23:08.000
South Korea now has the highest number of surgeries performed per capita, overtaking Brazil as the plastic surgery capital of the world.
01:23:21.000
South Korean women have become so immersed in Western celebrity culture that double eyelid surgery, that's what it's called, which creates the Caucasian crease many Asians don't naturally have, has become as common as going to the dentist.
01:23:40.000
I want you to jerk off and think about plastic surgery in South Korea.
01:23:53.000
Doesn't trust anyone else with lesser talent than him.
01:24:20.000
Ari Shafir, where can the ladies and gentlemen see you doing your stand-up?
01:24:24.000
Well, I'll be in Calgary in September, middle of September at Yuck Yucks, and I guess I'll be in Chicago.
01:24:47.000
You sold out, but you had trouble selling out that place.
01:25:05.000
That was also the place where they oversold it and they didn't know what to do.
01:25:17.000
They were going to give those people their money back and send them home.
01:25:24.000
If you want to seat them on the stage, you can seat them on the stage.
01:25:29.000
And they go, okay, we're going to put seats on the stage.
01:25:32.000
And there was like 200 fucking people on the stage.
01:25:37.000
There was a lot of goddamn people on the stage.
01:25:38.000
There was at least 150, maybe 200. There was madness.
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Those towns like Edmonton, Calgary, there's a lot of oil money.
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Yeah, it's like they look at Edmonton like, oh, look at him up in the city.
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It was tough, because it was echoing a lot, and I was on the side when Callan was on stage.
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I was on the side, and I could barely understand what he was saying, and I knew his act.
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People want to be like, no, the crowd's here to have a good time.
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I know, and you're not making them have as good a time.
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All they had to do was set it up a little bit better.
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This is the second of two podcasts we did today.
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Hey, I sold that couch, so we gotta go to dinner sometime soon.
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The original couch from the original Joe Rogan Experience podcast, I gave it to Ari years ago.
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It was the nicest thing in my apartment for five years easy.
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Have a steak and a glass of wine like gentlemen.
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Follow Ari on Twitter, Ari Shafir, A-R-I-S-H-A-F-F-I-R. And you can also get his stand-up comedy.
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You have two stand-up comedy CDs that are available, two comedy specials that are available.
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Now, Chill went down, so I guess Comedy Central is going to buy it and put it up.
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Chill, the website that did mine and Maria's and Proops's.
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But there are illegal downloads that you can find.
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If you go to Views Player and put in Passive Aggressive, Ari Shaffir, you can probably find a seed for it.
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Passive Aggressive is just out there in the ether somewhere.
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Oh, and I have a storyteller show on Monday at Union Hall, but there's only like 40 seats.
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She's going to be on the podcast on, I think...
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And I appreciate it even more after being gone for a week.
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Alright, we'll be back tomorrow with the dude from Unbox Therapy and lots of podcasts coming up.