Kettlebells are one of the most underrated tools in the weightlifting tool bag, and they re worth the price of admission. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about the benefits of kettlebells, how to get started with them, and why you should never have to go to the gym again. We also talk about how you can get the most out of your day to day training without going to a gym, and how to make the most of your time in the gym if you ve never been before. We also discuss how you don t have to be a gym goer to benefit from these tools, and what you should do if you re not a member of a CrossFit affiliate, a coach, a personal trainer, or just want to learn how to workout and get better at what you re already doing. This episode is brought to you by Onnit, and the guys at Onnit are here to help you do it. If you re a fitness junkie and you like what you hear on the pod, this episode is for you! Have a question you d like us to answer? Call us at 800-273-8255 or e-mail us at info@onnit.co.nz and we ll get back to you with our best podcasting tips, tricks, and tips on how to be the best you can be your best on the road to health, fitness, nutrition, and overall overall well-being. Thanks for listening and Happy Independence Day! -Jon Jon - The Ego Killer Mike Tim Jason Steve Chris Chad Michael Matt Ben Josh Brian Evan Sam Andrew John Justin Jack Matthew Cheers - Jake Dylan Jared Kevin Adam Daniel Julian Chacho Will Joe Shane Nick Brad Emily Thanks to: Sarah James Paul Brett David And so much more Thank you so much for listening to this episode, so much love you guys, so please leave us a review and support us so we can keep it like that and we can help you guys out there with your support and support you in the next episode Can't wait to see you out there!
00:00:05.000This episode of the podcast, this is July 4th weekend, so I know you're going to be out there at the lake or the beach taking your clothes off, trying to look sexy in your swimsuit, and it's probably a disaster.
00:00:20.000We can help you, ladies and gentlemen.
00:00:22.000This episode is brought to you by Onnit.com.
00:00:24.000That's O-N-N-I-T. I've always been a big proponent of kettlebells because it's one of the first weightlifting things that I've ever done that allows me to kind of get like the whole workout in.
00:00:35.000Like a lot of times when I used to lift weights, regular I'd lift weights and then another day I'd do cardio.
00:00:40.000I'd do one day weights, one day of cardio.
00:00:42.000But with a really good kettlebell workout, I get a brutal cardio workout and it allows me to get it all done in one shot.
00:00:51.000It's fun to do and it makes you feel like some Russian savage living in Siberia back in the 1930s or whatever the fuck they invented these things.
00:01:00.000What they are is like a cannonball with a big metal handle on it and you swing them around And in doing so in all these various exercises, you develop what they call functional strength, meaning strength for your entire body, not isolated individual movements, but your entire body.
00:01:39.000But the most important thing is that they don't just look good, but that they're 3D mapped.
00:01:44.000What we have them is we made sure that all of the kettlebells that you're getting, they're not imbalanced.
00:01:51.000You can make a cool face, but if the cool face wasn't balanced, it would kind of defeat the purpose of a kettlebell.
00:01:56.000The whole idea about a kettlebell is it's got to be balanced when you move it.
00:02:00.000So it looks badass, but I use the Gorilla, and you get a really good workout with it.
00:02:05.000It doesn't feel at all like a gimmick.
00:02:08.000Even when it slams into your arm with a gorilla face first, if you're an idiot, if you're not paying attention to how you swing on the kettlebells.
00:02:15.000One thing that I can really not stress enough when it comes to this stuff, if you're thinking about doing any kind of physical activity, if you've never worked out before, you've got to do two things if you can.
00:02:27.000The one thing, the if-you-can part, is hire a personal trainer to show you how to do the movements correctly.
00:02:34.000He'll probably let you iPhone video it.
00:02:37.000And let someone, you know, show you how to do, like, a clean and press, how to do a windmill, how to do these things correctly, and then videotape it, and then you can do it on your own.
00:02:47.000And you can literally never have to go to a gym again.
00:02:49.000With a chin-up bar and a couple kettlebells, like, you can get ferocious workouts in on a daily basis.
00:02:57.000If you're a meathead like me, and you're a dummy, and if someone says, take three vitamins, you're like, I'll take fucking five and see what's up.
00:03:07.000You could hurt yourself with these things.
00:03:15.000And we go all the way up to 70 pounds with the Primal Bells.
00:03:18.000But if you're a real savage, one of those bona fide fitness freaks, like perhaps one of those CrossFit dudes who enter into those championships, that bitch-ass 70 pounds is probably not going to be enough for you.
00:03:30.000If that's the case, we sell them even heavier.
00:03:32.000The heaviest ones we sell, I don't know why they do them in kilograms.
00:03:36.000I guess that's out of respect to Mother Russia or some shit.
00:04:37.000And if you're interested in any of the Onnit supplements, use the code word ROGAN and you will save 10% off any and all supplements.
00:04:44.000Alright, Crash from the Float Lab is here, ladies and gentlemen.
00:04:47.000So without any further ado, and no more fuckery afoot, Let's get rolling.
00:04:57.000Hey, ladies and gentlemen, for many of you who've heard this podcast before, you're aware of a thing that I'm really into called the sensory deprivation tank.
00:05:14.000And the sensory deprivation tank was invented by a guy named John Lilly, who is a scientist and a real freak.
00:05:21.000Like a guy who is just really out there.
00:05:25.000And he wrote a book that I picked it up on, I think, like Amazon.com, like the used books that they'll sell you, like people, sellers, individual sellers will sell it.
00:05:46.000And just really, really fascinating guy.
00:05:49.000And he was into all sorts of weird altered states of consciousness.
00:05:55.000And one of the things that he wanted to figure out was how to separate the body from the senses.
00:06:01.000And he came up with a bunch of different designs.
00:06:03.000There's a movie, Altered States, that's kind of very loosely based on the idea of a guy like him going completely haywire and becoming like a monkey.
00:06:14.000That's how I got into sensory deprivation tanks.
00:06:23.000That you saw in Altered States showed what Lily at first came up with, which was like a glass scuba helmet that sort of suspended him in regular water.
00:06:32.000And he would actually poop and pee into it.
00:06:35.000He had like some crazy filtration system so he could stay in there and not have to defecate or urinate so it would go through some system that he had created.
00:06:47.000I mean, he's about as off the deep end as ever.
00:06:49.000But his big thing was to try to figure out how you can get the mind free of the influence of the body.
00:06:57.000And the best method he came up to Was this idea of the tank.
00:07:02.000And he figured out eventually to put salt water in it.
00:07:06.000And that if you put enough Epsom salts, your body would float.
00:07:08.000And then he could maintain the heating temperature to essentially, what's the same temperature as the surface of your skin, and you wouldn't be able to recognize where the water was.
00:07:18.000And it would give you the sensation of complete sensory deprivation.
00:07:24.000And he figured this out, and from that point on, till like, God, I don't mean, I met you in, what was it like, how many years ago was it?
00:10:13.000Created this video Brian was the guy who made that video where we went down to the basement and videotaped the the tank and From from that video on We started I'm hearing more and more people opening up these centers.
00:11:45.000And without you, that wouldn't have happened.
00:11:47.000You know, it's just, and that, these things help out everybody right now because the industry deserves A opportunity to expand and become available to people in general.
00:12:00.000Because it is an important thing to a person that's in the process of considering what it is that they're doing with themselves, which I think is very important for people to...
00:12:11.000Take responsibility for their actions and what they do and what they say.
00:12:21.000You're allowed to go ahead and say, you know what, I don't think this is quite the way that I... This is becoming actually more popular now.
00:12:29.000It's like freaky people that are able to go out and say, oh, hey, maybe that.
00:12:51.000A lot of the crossover, too, currently is based on these athletes that you have contact with or that respect your perspective or whatever, and they show up.
00:13:01.000That guy, Jeremy Stevens, was here the other day again.
00:13:04.000And then I watched him on a clip the other day.
00:13:07.000I don't know when that fight was from.
00:15:13.000Something that becomes popular in a way where people get a chance to do a new thing that they could get excited about, which is one of the things that people like with Pilates or yoga.
00:15:24.000A new thing that they could be excited about that could benefit them mentally, which is where I think we're missing out on a lot of this stuff.
00:15:31.000I think yoga does benefit you mentally.
00:15:33.000I think it calms you down, and it's very good for you physically.
00:15:37.000But the physical aspect and the mental aspect coincide.
00:15:55.000But I go sit in that box for a couple few hours and go all kinds of different things.
00:15:59.000Well, you know, the meditation is possible.
00:16:02.000I know that there's people that do that kundalini yoga and they have these intense psychedelic visions and I believe them 100% because You do have endogenous chemicals that the brain produces that can give you psychedelic experiences.
00:16:16.000Like we know about dimethyltryptamine and we know about 5-methoxydimethyltryptamine being produced by the human body.
00:16:22.000So if those are being produced by the body, there could easily be some ancient method of stimulating that production, of releasing some sort of a burst of that production.
00:16:32.000And so these super kundalini masters Which seems like it would be something you'd want to do, but for whatever reason, I'm not compelled.
00:16:42.000But they can experience natural DMT trips at the highest levels of their art form, which I believe.
00:16:48.000I think you just got to get really good at sitting there.
00:16:50.000You just got to get really good at yoga positions.
00:16:52.000You got to get really good at meditating.
00:16:54.000You got to get really good at just getting good enough at yoga physically that you could just sort of fall into these forms.
00:17:01.000And then when you're falling into these forms and supporting yourself, in some way, by making your body work like that, you, like, heighten your expression to whatever it is that yoga's trying to tap into.
00:23:16.000Certain offices, they've got that horrible light, and then there's the rules, and you've got a suit on.
00:23:23.000Now you're sitting in the office, the whole thing represents a bummer.
00:23:26.000Do you think you have to do that to people to get them to work?
00:23:28.000Do you have to make them wear a suit to get them to work?
00:23:31.000I mean, if you let people wear t-shirts and jeans and shit, would they take insurance as seriously as they do if they're wearing that goofy monkey suit?
00:23:39.000Would they stick to the company line when they're on the phone giving those pep speaks?
00:23:44.000You wonder what's the image they're trying to project.
00:23:53.000When I'm at the office, I'm completely appropriate.
00:23:55.000And I'm leaving these guys every time because I just don't think that that's who I want to be doing anything with, is these characters that are not working on their own, you know.
00:24:05.000Oh, they're for these guys or those guys.
00:24:42.000Meanwhile, I'm standing here in this terrible auditorium with a bunch of you, and this is what I'm begging for you maybe to give me some of your money.
00:24:49.000So I can continue on with my maybe, maybe not lifestyle.
00:24:53.000Yeah, there's a lot of those weird guys that are like motivational speakers.
00:24:57.000And they motivate you to come to their seminars.
00:25:00.000And they make a fuckload of money from your job.
00:26:21.000If you look at it, America is important.
00:26:24.000Even though I don't have a flag or nothing like that, but it's where we live and it's kind of like where we're from and it's sort of like what we're supposed to be proud about.
00:26:35.000I'm from here, and I'm really glad about that because where it is and the way they operate, I go along with that.
00:26:43.000But it's gotten too far now, in my opinion, which is, you know, everybody's wrong.
00:26:48.000It needs to get to where the people actually get an overview again, where they start to evaluate situations and then make correct decisions based on now.
00:26:56.000Instead of these prehistoric versions of what's got us to hear need to be, hopefully at some point, let go with and get a new evaluation that pertains to where we're at now in the world.
00:27:10.000What can we do now to get along with people?
00:28:02.000Well, all you'd have to consider is how much benefit there could have been done I mean, if you're really a pro-America person and you really are a patriot, think about what a benefit it would have been to America to take a lot of that money that went to this crazy war that no one believes in anymore and try to clean up inner cities.
00:28:58.000It's a two-hour drive to a third-world country that's in turmoil, and we don't do a goddamn thing about it, and we're sending people to some place that's so far removed from us that just coincidentally happens to have oil.
00:29:34.000So in other words, there used to be the same dinosaurs out in the middle of the ocean.
00:29:37.000Well, I don't think they think it's dinosaurs anymore.
00:29:39.000I think they think it's rotten plankton.
00:29:41.000Yeah, up at the top of the frozen Alps and at the bottom of the ocean and over here in the desert.
00:29:46.000And everywhere at one time there was plankton all over now or whatever to make these gigantic puddles of this stuff that we're pumping out for some reason.
00:29:53.000And then you step back and say, what are those guys doing down there?
00:29:58.000Well, you know, they're pumping the stuff out of there, the oil they call it, and they turn it into a plastic material that litters the planet, they can't get rid of it.
00:30:07.000Or they take it and then they burn it into the atmosphere and poison themselves.
00:30:11.000And then what they do, they spend all their money to fight amongst each other to see who gets control of it.
00:30:17.000And you're thinking, this whole stuff isn't really that necessary, it could be done without.
00:30:22.000Look at that hemp and what it has to offer, comparatively speaking.
00:30:25.000Well, it's just too difficult to control.
00:30:27.000You know, there was a book on the process of oil being developed that they were trying to speculate somehow or another that it was developed through a natural process in the earth.
00:30:39.000And they were saying that our ideas of it were incorrect.
00:30:42.000But I don't think it was well received.
00:31:07.000So now they have us believe, although the planets are circling the Sun, I think that this makes more sense to me, and there's other, you know, this isn't my thought, but somebody showed, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
00:33:48.000If you just became a fucking softball junkie, and you're out there on the field every day, throwing that ball in the air, hitting them by yourself into a tree, and people are like, what is Tom doing?
00:33:56.000Can't wait for that fucking game on Sunday.
00:33:58.000Like, Jesus Christ, Tom, you got a family, you got a wife at home, get home.
00:34:06.000But I think the phone in moderation is a beautiful thing.
00:34:09.000It's been amazing how much scientific advancements they've done on a phone in the past how many years?
00:34:15.000If they put that kind of brain power into anything, we're driving the same car almost.
00:34:20.000I guess the Tesla's got a pretty new thing, some kind of motorizer.
00:34:24.000Yeah, it's pretty similar to the cars that we had.
00:34:26.000I was just talking with a friend last night about how, like, the cars of 10 years ago, when I was a kid, when I was in high school, I was in high school, I was 14 in 1984, that's when I was in high, or 1981, when I was in high school.
00:34:43.000There was a 1970 Chevelle that this kid had that was in my school.
00:34:49.000And I guess he was like maybe two years older than me, so he might have been like 16. But he had this 1970 Chevelle, and everybody was like, holy shit.
00:36:06.000We just have to get somebody to say, you know, a hike.
00:36:10.000Do you know how weird city streets look?
00:36:13.000Can you imagine if you lived in the time before electricity and then someone brought you to New York City, Times Square, Saturday night, and you're walking through and you see all these lights and all this craziness and the cars with the lights and you're like, holy shit,
00:42:15.000Perfect contrast to the Volkswagen that we were talking about because my friend Jimmy's Volkswagen was like super old-school like that lawnmower engine it sounds like a lawnmower or a sewing machine yeah oh yeah you'd have to pump the brakes but it was like a really light tiny car whereas the new one like we're saying looks like a like a fat Porsche yeah it looks like like some sort of a spaceship like an Audi or something like that huh the new VW Bug is pretty dope looking yeah Yeah.
00:43:01.000If you got a Porsche from 1970, those bitches had skinny-ass steering wheels that were big, like hula hoops, and you had shitty-ass skinny tires.
00:43:13.000In comparison to what your car could do, if you brought your car back in time, like when they had the 1969 Porsche, and you showed them your car, they'd be fucking blowing you.
00:43:24.000They'd be like, you're a wizard from the future!
00:45:10.000Like, if you drove my friend Jimmy's VW Bug, that might make you feel better than driving some ridiculous car that goes zero to 60 in two seconds and corners at two Gs.
00:46:21.000Yeah, we, like, passed the pleasurable point and went to some weird numb point with cars where the ceiling's like this and you don't feel any of the bumps, you know?
00:46:48.000You know, there's something cool about that as opposed to like, if you lived in 1970 and you got a digital clock, you were the pimp of the year.
00:46:55.000Like, this guy has a digital clock in his house.
00:48:42.000I bet there was a small window where teachers are still fucking old people who are out of touch with modern technology in a lot of ways.
00:48:50.000So there's probably a window where these young little rascals went in there with their technological wizard phones with calculators on, and they probably...
00:53:14.000But I like looking at a clock for whatever reason.
00:53:16.000It gives me a better sense of what time is than when I look at a number.
00:53:20.000When I look at numbers, and it's totally illogical, but I look at this number on my computer, the upper right-hand corner of my computer, and then I look at that.
00:53:29.000That's more pleasurable to me for whatever reason.
00:53:44.000It used to record in analog, and then when the digital came out, then what they would do is go analog, digital, and then back to analog to try to mix this stuff up to where it sounds.
00:53:56.000And I fully understand that for some folks it's the opposite.
00:54:26.000I think some of them look really cool, but it's not something that I'm really into because they seem to me like peacock feathers a little bit.
00:54:33.000But what I am a fan of is the engineering behind those watches.
00:55:42.000And watches are another quality, you know, like a good watch, like you said, it's Swiss engineering, it's a piece of stuff that lasts, you know?
00:55:52.000It's not a piece of junk that's disposable.
00:55:55.000You get a piece of quality, it's a watch, and it's got a lot of work put into it, and it's something you'll have forever.
00:56:55.000Yeah, we should really reevaluate that whole throwing out plastic shit.
00:57:01.000You see all the plastic that's in the ocean and all these photographs of these birds that have been feeding plastics to their babies and their babies die and you see that their bellies are filled with plastics.
00:57:11.000You know what's fucking shit up lately?
00:57:12.000It's those facial cleaners that have the little beads in them.
00:57:16.000They're just these tiny little plastic beads.
01:01:26.000Look, we can get back to isolation tank talk in a couple minutes.
01:01:29.000We have plenty of time here, ladies and gentlemen.
01:01:31.000But seeing as how we're in the flow of this, I would like to watch a little quick Leave it to Beaver episode just to see how ridiculous the world was in 1957. Even the opening when they have their house and it's all nice.
01:04:18.000But it's indicative of this thing that I think we're experiencing.
01:04:22.000This thing that everything is constantly improving and one of the best ways to see that improvement.
01:04:26.000If you wanted to determine the age of a tree, you would chop the tree down and you'd look at the rings of the tree.
01:04:32.000I think if you wanted to determine the progress of our culture in terms of, like, the rings on a tree, like, in that sort of a way, there's no better way to do it than to go back and look at the sections of our media.
01:04:43.000Go back and look at, like, the Six Million Dollar Man.
01:04:46.000You know, go back and look at the Fall Guy.
01:04:49.000Go back and look at, you know, the Incredible Hulk.
01:05:19.000The type of shows you see, if you watch a modern day episode of Game of Thrones, there's not a film that was made in the 1960s that could compare to that.
01:05:33.000I think 2000 West Base Odyssey was a marvel of cinema for the time.
01:05:38.000But it can't fuck with what they have now on TV. Game of Thrones is one of the best movies of all time, and it's like 10 hours every season.
01:07:13.000We've gotten a much deeper understanding of what really freaks people out.
01:07:17.000And we require that to get freaked out.
01:07:20.000Today's trolls, today's YouTube trolls, could start wars in the 1940s.
01:07:25.000If you could send those guys back in time, like the really sophisticated trolls, the ones where you read their Twitter account and you could barely even tell if they're trolling, they're just so...
01:07:34.000And then you watch some of the arguments they get into and you go, oh, this guy's an artist.
01:07:49.000They would contact you in some sort of a way, either insulting you and trying to get you to respond to them or mockingly in love with you to try to get you to respond to them and then turn on you.
01:08:01.000They would try to pretend that they were outraged about certain specific issues just to get a rise out of you.
01:08:41.000They'd probably steady your buttons, too.
01:08:43.000They'd say, oh, say something like that.
01:08:44.000You see what he does when you say that.
01:08:46.000The longest people were interacting on the internet like this, in this sort of instantaneous Twitter-type comments or YouTube-type comments, it hasn't been more than a decade.
01:08:59.000So people who like to get a rise out of people, if you can't do it at work, especially if you're stuck at a job that sucks and you have no means of expression of the evil inside you.
01:09:11.000I wonder, why doesn't people watch these videos and then say that?
01:11:30.000We get accustomed to all sorts of things that seem unacceptable.
01:11:33.000Like, if you look at the things and customs that people carry on in other countries, there's certain...
01:11:39.000Rites of passage for manhood that if you tried to implement today in the United States, like the weird shit that they do in Africa where they're circumcising each other with sharp sticks and they have to go crawl through thorn bushes naked, like a bunch of crazy shit they make these guys do.
01:11:55.000And if you tried to implement that stuff in America today, we would laugh at you.
01:11:58.000But to them, this is how they've done it.
01:12:00.000This is how they've done it for a long time.
01:12:03.000People get used to all sorts of weird shit.
01:12:06.000I think a lot of people have gotten used to something that just rages against their sensibilities and it rages against their body.
01:12:14.000It rages against their sensibilities because they've somehow or another committed themselves to a safe job that is not inspiring.
01:12:22.000And they think that maybe if they just waited a little while or thought about it better, they could have eventually figured out how to do what they actually want to do.
01:12:29.000And when you run into someone who has done that, then you see the benefit of it.
01:12:41.000And I think the way our society is structured currently, I don't see that changing anytime soon.
01:12:50.000It just seems like so many people are rushing out.
01:12:53.000To enter into the workforce because the economy is not so good so everybody's scrapping for jobs and they're willing to take jobs they might not have ordinarily taken because they want the security of it.
01:13:06.000It's a very trying time for a lot of people.
01:13:08.000But if you could figure out a way to separate on your own, you know, selling coffee mugs or fucking figuring something out, damn, you'll be so much better off.
01:13:19.000Well, it allows you to be more independent in your ability to provide for yourself.
01:13:24.000If you could figure out something you can do, what I find to be a little bit discouraging is the lack of interest in manufacturing products.
01:13:36.000This country used to be, like I say, really have a lot of pride in craftsmanship.
01:13:41.000See, we still have a talent pool here.
01:14:18.000You should teach a kid how to work a hammer, a saw.
01:14:20.000Well, I think, you know, this ebb and flow that we were talking about with technology and that people, some folks are kind of, like, bouncing back the other way and looking towards mechanical things and being in love with mechanical things.
01:14:31.000I think that also is going to be said about working for big companies.
01:14:34.000But I think that a lot of these people are going to get this feeling of, you know, like, man, I'm just lost in this sea of people, whereas I can...
01:14:44.000I can make handmade kitchen knives in my garage over the weekend.
01:14:47.000Start selling them, and then one day or another, eventually break through.
01:14:51.000I got a website from Squarespace, and I put together this fucking knife collection, and now I'm selling them online, and now I'm independent.
01:14:57.000And this cook is using them on TV. Chef Luigi's endorsed my...
01:15:03.000You want some handmade, like there's a company, there's a couple companies that have sent me Crestrell knives, Crestrell knives and Vement knives.
01:15:11.000And there are companies that did the exact same thing.
01:15:13.000They just started making knives and started selling them.
01:15:16.000They loved the beauty of the construction of the knives.
01:15:19.000Vement knife, they made me this fucking big, crazy, cool thing.
01:15:22.000It's like all the handles, all handmade.
01:15:25.000When you see that someone can make a living doing that, and when you're chopping onions with something like that, or you're doing something in the kitchen, or you're using it for camping or hunting or something like that, it's like you're feeling like you have a piece of craftsmanship with you.
01:16:37.000There's nothing made in China, not that there's anything wrong with made in China, but we don't buy anything that's used in China for our stuff at all.
01:16:44.000It's all either made here or North America somewhere.
01:16:48.000We have a few European parts from German and Switzerland, but the rest of it's all made here in America.
01:18:10.000Slunk over, you know, slumped over and just tired.
01:18:14.000And then there's other folks that, like you, who are fucking crazy.
01:18:18.000Who figure out a way to invest an incredible amount of time to try to...
01:18:23.000Renovate and reinvigorate this business that had kind of been forgotten about.
01:18:28.000I mean, when you came along, there was like Samadhi tanks, and then there was a couple other ones that you could kind of find online, you know, that were made in Europe.
01:18:37.000In Europe, it had a little bit more popularity in Europe.
01:18:40.000Yeah, they had that Pathfinder, and then they had...
01:18:58.000I mean, it's still way more popular even now overseas.
01:19:01.000Like, I get letters all the time from...
01:19:02.000There's a new place that opened up in London.
01:19:04.000I believe there's one in Manchester that opened up.
01:19:06.000And I get messages from those guys all the time.
01:19:09.000So I know they're opening up new ones.
01:19:12.000So it's not like it's already there and established.
01:19:15.000Well, that's what we were talking about earlier a little bit.
01:19:17.000On the way over here, we had a chance to have a little brief discussion about the future in the industry there.
01:19:23.000I got a chance to show you some of these rules and regulations now that have been pinned up by the various health agencies, NSF, National Sanitization Foundation.
01:19:39.000There's home tanks and then there's commercial tanks.
01:19:42.000And people always, when I tell them, hey, you should go to the float lab and get in a tank, they go, wait a minute, somebody's been in that tank before me?
01:19:54.000up until now hasn't been like completely thoroughly examined and your tanks like when people come over my house one of the things they always look at is like the back of the tank where all the equipment is set up and they go what the fuck is all that and I go well that one does ozone these ones are filters and like is that overkill I'm like I don't know what overkill is I don't know I'm not I'm not a I all I know is the tank is awesome crash makes the best tanks if he says it should be like this then it probably should be like this But when you talk to people that have other tanks,
01:20:22.000they go, dude, I got like a little fucking spa pump.
01:20:24.000I got a little spa pump that's about the size of a basketball, and that's it.
01:20:27.000And you got like a JPL fucking setup back there with digital this and fucking control panel.
01:20:34.000It just keeps getting more and more complicated as we get more and more involved with the authorities, like UL. Yes, and UL is what?
01:24:17.000People, a lot of folks, they discuss a lot of stuff.
01:24:20.000They read about other people, all these things, and instead of like actually sit down and say, okay, what can I actually do today to make me do something that is of a value?
01:24:30.000You know, rather than, you know, the criticizing of other people is really a...
01:27:09.000I had a ranch and a big screen and everything.
01:27:11.000But I would come in there and I always need people around me and stimulation and stuff.
01:27:15.000But I get out of that chamber, I come in all by myself and sit down and not turn nothing on and just sit there and feel actually relaxed without use of drugs.
01:27:47.000You know, you now have a window into yourself.
01:27:51.000You can now go in and look at you and see what that is and then say, hey, woo, look at that, what that is over...
01:27:59.000Same thing because you're aware of what you are and who you are, what you did and where you've been and whatnot like that, but you have to be willing to, you know, admit to all that, surrender, whatever, and then...
01:28:10.000Pick yourself up and start to use what it is that you're able to figure out about what to do from here.
01:28:26.000And there you are in this box, and you realize there's two parts of me.
01:28:30.000There's this thing inside of me that apparently has better information, and then there's this thing outside that wants to get high or goes to go see chicks or do whatever you're going to want to do.
01:29:08.000It gives them an impression that they're more happy to be around or something.
01:29:12.000The drunker they get, the stupider they seem to be.
01:29:15.000But they don't seem to evaluate themselves from that perspective.
01:29:18.000They think they're more fun or something.
01:29:20.000Yeah, self-evaluation is one of the hardest things to do, right?
01:29:23.000It's one of the hardest things for a person to do, to step away from their whatever...
01:29:29.000Inaccuracies they've been telling themselves to make themselves feel better about their life or their situation and then to force yourself to go, you know, this is not right.
01:29:40.000And society has an influence on you as well because you don't want to look too, like you're saying, you know, I can remember certain, I want to get into this, start talking about certain things and people go, oh, you know, I don't want to talk about that or whatever.
01:30:58.000I mean, you should look into this more than anybody, because you've talked to me about this before, and I know that you probably have these ideas in your head About the government spraying things in the sky.
01:32:07.000The real chemtrail, this is one of the things that I said on my television show when we covered this, is that they're burning jet fuel in the sky.
01:32:29.000Because if they can figure out how to do that and use the same sort of technology that keeps Google cars safe, and if everybody can work together and make these, we might be able to change the environment.
01:32:38.000Like the amount of jet fuel that we burn.
01:32:40.000There's like thousands and thousands of flights every hour all across the country constantly going back and forth.
01:32:45.000You know the rocket ships apparently take a lot of propulsion to get out.
01:33:41.000Especially when it comes to certain historical events.
01:33:43.000There's a lot of people that want to talk about, like JFK is a good example.
01:33:47.000There's a lot of people that love talking about conspiracies and they like to wrap that one up tight.
01:33:51.000And when you have these conversations with them and you look at the contrary evidence on both sides, pro and con, it's like, wow, there's a lot of massive amounts of confusion as to what the actual events were.
01:34:02.000So many people wanted him, Dad, that you couldn't pin the tail on that donkey no matter what.
01:34:08.000He had multiple people that were upset with his actions.
01:34:12.000Boy, would they be so lucky if it was just a lone nut.
01:34:16.000All those other people would be so lucky.
01:34:17.000We would be so lucky because then this situation would have perpetuated to this point now.
01:34:22.000If it was a lone nut back then and the system was actually fail-safe from situations like this?
01:34:27.000I think with the 1960s and the death of Kennedy and the Kent State shootings and all that stuff, I mean, as tragic as it is for then and for those times, I think that ultimately that kind of stuff is sort of a reminder in a lot of ways to the people of today about how bad it can get if things get out of hand.
01:34:45.000So when they start creeping up on these infringements on civil liberties and people start rising up, that's where you see things like us going to Syria gets shot down.
01:34:54.000I mean, you see the entire country, both Democrat and Republican.
01:34:58.000That was the first time that ever happened where they had made a plan to go in and invade something and they did not do it because of the voice of the public.
01:35:48.000That, a lot of times, is a side effect of pollution, too.
01:35:52.000Or it could be a side effect of certain types of, like, fish need a certain oxygen level, and things can happen, and they develop dead zones in the water.
01:36:01.000And there's no oxygen and all the fish just drowned.
01:36:50.000But it's also the people that were alive that implemented these systems, they're not alive anymore.
01:36:56.000And when they were our age, it was a completely different era.
01:37:01.000And then when you go back to look at the distance between us and the 1940s, go back and look at the 1940s and the distance between them and the same amount of time, and you're in the 1800s.
01:37:14.000Okay, you're in the times where people were riding horses and they had to paint their pictures.
01:37:20.000That's how much distance has traveled.
01:37:22.000I mean, we really, if you go back to 1940 and you look at those guys that are running the space program or look at those guys that were involved in the nuclear program, how old were they?
01:37:33.000Let's say that they were born in the year 1900, and they were designing and working on all these crazy technological innovations from the time.
01:37:42.000If you went back from them to as far as us looking at the 1940s, you would be, what, 60s, 74 years?
01:38:45.000But it's just so strange that we're still running on the momentum of these people's ideas as far as storage of nuclear weapons, storage of nuclear waste.
01:38:59.000I agree wholeheartedly, but also as a person who's not involved in creating nuclear technology or not involved in any of that, I find it fascinating just as an observer looking at it all like, wow, this is really an interesting scenario because it was created by these incredible geniuses that lived as long ago as 1820-something to them.
01:39:19.000I mean, that is really hard to believe.
01:40:35.000It was made out of plastic glass stuff, and it exploded.
01:40:40.000The mouse was off-gassing from inside of it, and the mouse created so much gas, it blew this whole thing up all over the place, the guy told me.
01:44:02.000The thing about, like, I like a lot of different protein powders, but I feel like the vegetable proteins, I like pea protein, there's a Vega that is a, I think it's an all-vegan-based protein powder, all-plant-based protein powder that I like too.
01:45:38.000If it didn't exist and someone told you about it from another planet, we would be sending spaceships out to get it.
01:45:43.000If we found that there was pot growing on the moon, and if the astronauts went to the moon and they came back with a plant, and over the next decade they analyzed this plant and found it to have a million different uses, psychoactively, medically, to treat PTSD, interocular pressure from fucking...
01:46:01.000Glaucoma to give people their appetite back when they're going through chemo.
01:46:05.000You go through a laundry list of benefits that this fucking alien plant had.
01:46:10.000What's that virgin guy, Richard Branson?
01:46:12.000He'd be sending spaceships out to the moon with farmers.
01:46:15.000They'd have Mexicans in space flying to the moon to harvest the marijuana and bring it back home.
01:46:53.000Say, listen, we use it in our product now.
01:46:55.000We use this stuff because we found it's better than what we used to use.
01:46:59.000Well, I think there's a lot of things that could be done to make people overall, just overall in this country, just a wee bit healthier.
01:47:07.000Just a little bit of a change in the dial and the direction that we're all going.
01:47:10.000Like I remember Anthony Robbins, who although I've made fun of inspirational guys, I think is actually a very inspirational guy.
01:47:16.000I think Anthony Robbins has some really good advice.
01:47:20.000I've read a bunch of different things that he said back when I was competing in my martial arts days.
01:47:24.000I actually benefited very much from a lot of his...
01:47:28.000He had audiobooks I'd listen to by the pool when I lived in a shitty apartment.
01:47:31.000And one of the things that he said was that if...
01:47:35.000It would take into consideration two cars that are going in a certain direction.
01:47:39.000If one of them just has a very slight variation off the line, just a slight, over the course of time, the distance that it goes from the original direction it was going to is vast.
01:49:38.000Even if you don't want to smoke weed, how could you ever say that $100 million in cash revenue, $100 million is not a great thing, that you get that kind of taxes from your first year, and who knows where this is going to go.
01:49:51.000It could easily double by the second year.
01:49:53.000So then you got $200 million in tax revenue?
01:51:45.000It's called a slippery whatever, and we have it.
01:51:49.000Well, it would be a great plot for a book.
01:51:52.000If there was a company that somehow or another managed to plot against one of the most beneficial plants on Earth and suppressed the development and use of it for almost a century.
01:52:03.000If that was a book, you would be captivated by this plot.
01:52:09.000Is this possible that one of the most beneficial plants ever known to man could be stifled?
01:52:13.000They might have known about it in the beginning and then cut it off, like say, uh-oh, this stuff could catch on.
01:52:19.000I think that what happens is, one of the things that happens is when anything is illegal and then you start arresting people for that thing, you make a business out of arresting people for that thing.
01:52:29.000You make a business out of that thing being illegal and then, like we were talking about before, when those guys are out of a job, they're just out of a job.
01:52:36.000So they'll fight to keep their fucking job and one of the best ways to keep your job is to keep more things illegal.
01:52:40.000If you're a guy who arrests people for shit, You want to make sure that more things like marijuana stay illegal, especially the DEA. What would they do if marijuana became legal?
01:52:52.000And then people would have to start considering all sorts of other drugs becoming legal as well.
01:52:58.000Maybe they could figure out how to direct the business aspects of it.
01:53:04.000Just take this money now, and we'll have a...
01:53:08.000An agency, let's say, that works directly with these people that then, you know, maybe then they could have a place in being helpful, you know?
01:53:43.000When I was first starting to work for the UFC, I would often encounter these articles that were written that were critical of mixed martial arts.
01:53:50.000And I could tell by reading the article that the person who was writing it had no idea what they were talking about.
01:53:55.000They didn't understand the sport from a fundamental level.
01:54:23.000It's like having a guy do a wine review that's never had any wine.
01:54:30.000Yeah, well, you know, I'll do you one better.
01:54:32.000Anybody that is trying to get anything like marijuana or mushrooms or any of these things removed from the culture and has no experience in them whatsoever is like a guy who's never had sex trying to make sex illegal.
01:56:30.000So when someone takes a big, strong stance on something that they don't have experience with, or they don't have full knowledge of, like he was talking about something...
01:56:37.000Study that they've come out with that marijuana affects the brain.
01:56:41.000Yeah, it affects the brain, but they don't know if it's good or bad.
02:00:47.000One of the worst parts is this lack of understanding about what should and shouldn't be happening to us.
02:00:52.000Whether it's our government committing to wars or whether it's the people's emails being spied upon or whether it's people being forced to not consume certain things that would offer different perspectives or people being Morality.
02:01:07.000Yeah, people telling you what you can and can't do that's not hurting anybody else.
02:01:12.000And I think one of the things that I'm attracted to is altering the current way that I think and altering the current way that other people think and giving you a perspective of the paths that we just get on.
02:01:27.000We get stuck in these fucking grooves and it's so easy to keep making those same turns over and over again whenever you hit these very similar moments in your life.
02:01:36.000And that's where something like the isolation tank is so good.
02:01:40.000It's so good to just get out of that groove.
02:01:42.000I can't, you know, I think, you know, like a long, you see, when I met you and everything, I thought, you know, I think I went to, I don't know if I had just gotten back from Costa Rica or somewhere.
02:01:51.000I thought, you know, this is never going to happen.
02:01:53.000It's just people are never going to get with this.
02:01:58.000But now it seems as if these people in general have gotten up to a place where they're more willing to experience themselves and then make action on that.
02:02:12.000Yeah, I think people are waking up with a lot of things.
02:02:16.000I mean, what you were talking about earlier about Pilates and yoga, I think people are just waking up about their body.
02:02:21.000People are really concerned about where their food's coming from now.
02:02:24.000This is something that hadn't really existed decades ago.
02:02:28.000No one was concerned about organics or, you know, no one was concerned about...
02:02:34.000Just the fact that, and I'm not necessarily saying that GMOs are all bad, because I don't think they are.
02:02:39.000I think there's definitely some benefits to some genetically modified organisms, but I think it's important that we have the conversations, that people who are really intelligent start dedicating time and effort to researching what the benefits, pros and cons, and then relaying that information back to the people who grow it,
02:02:55.000and relaying it back to the public so we know what we're in for.
02:02:58.000But then money gets involved in those things, and that's what people are concerned about, and they should.
02:06:01.000Okay, synthetic pesticides and chemical fertilizers are not allowed.
02:06:05.000Although certain organically approved pesticides may be used under limited conditions in general, organic foods are not processed using irradiation, industrial solvents, or chemical food additives.
02:06:37.000Crop rotation and also when you have enormous chunks of land that are just dedicated entirely to corn or entirely to this or entirely to that.
02:06:45.000You know, a lot of times those farmlands become minerally deficient, and they have to actually add minerals to the ground in order to...
02:14:12.000It's got a compartment in it that you put a chemical, and then you turn these suckers on, and then you put it down, and this mist comes out.
02:14:20.000And you can't smell it at all, but the mosquitoes avoid you like the plague.
02:14:24.000So we would sit down outside in the woods, and it was really mosquito-ridden.
02:14:30.000Immediately, the mosquitoes come near you, and you're like, holy shit, I don't think I can do this.
02:14:51.000You know what sucks is those, I don't know if they have them in Los Angeles, is the Japanese beetles.
02:14:55.000In the Midwest, we used to get so many Japanese beetles that would have to have these bags that you put in your front and backyard where the beetles would come in and get collected in there.
02:15:05.000It's just like every week you just have this humongous bag of just sweaty bugs.
02:22:24.000It was 1985. So it was when I was in high school and I was graduating.
02:22:32.000That was my senior year of high school.
02:22:34.000It was 1985. And that's when this fucker hit.
02:22:36.000And it hit the first major storm to affect New York and Long Island directly since Hurricane Donna in 1960. So people went a long time away.
02:22:47.000They went 25 years when they hadn't had a hurricane hit them.
02:22:52.000And this motherfucker came down and wiped out everything.
02:24:12.000You really have to have a respect for it.
02:24:14.000Once it gets riled up like that coming at you, there's not a whole lot going to be done to slow it down, I don't think.
02:24:20.000Well, I think we're basing our ideas about what the atmosphere is like, like what the weather's like, what the, you know, the safety of being around volcanoes, the safety of being around the ocean.
02:24:31.000We're basing it on the few hundred years that people have been paying attention and taking notes.
02:24:36.000You know, how many people have been here before that?
02:24:52.000If people have lived in North America for the past X amount of thousands of years, like they have evidence that goes way back to 10,000 years ago of people living in North America...
02:25:01.000So if that's the case, for sure something during that time, like there had been a bunch of events, a bunch of things happening, we're not aware.
02:25:08.000So when something like Katrina comes or something like Gloria comes when I was in high school, you go, wait, is this possible?
02:28:51.000The Glaser-Higgins-Woodward tornadoes in 1947. Shoot.
02:28:56.000Yeah, and they traveled 125 miles from Texas to Oklahoma, destroying everything in its path.
02:29:04.000Because it was originally thought to have left a 220-mile path, but it's now believed to have been a part of a family of eight or nine tornadoes.
02:29:18.000These tornadoes, although deadly, did not match the astounding death toll of the earlier event, nor did they match the record speed of that tornado, although at over 40 miles per hour, they qualified as a fast-tracking storm.
02:29:36.000Dude, could you fucking imagine looking out your window and seeing nine tornadoes coming at you and just thinking about all the times you jerked off and what the Bible told you and you're like thinking it was you?
02:29:45.000You know, if you lived in 1947, bro...
02:29:47.000Then the locusts are coming on top of it.
02:29:49.000If you were in Texas and it was 1947, you could convince yourself that those tornadoes were coming for you because you jerked off.
02:29:55.000If you were 16, if you were some kid who's just resisting church so bad, but you couldn't stop beating off, and you'd still go to church, your dad would scream at you, and you're in there beating off, and you look out the window, and you see nine tornadoes heading your way, and you're fucking convinced it was you.
02:30:12.000Convinced it was you that killed everybody.
02:30:14.000Fire and brimstone, Brian Redman masturbating, the devil has sent his henchmen to take you out of the path, and out of the path of righteousness.
02:30:23.000And you have to become a priest because everyone in the town died because of you.
02:31:03.000You ever gone through the desert, driving to Vegas or something, and you'll just see on the side of the road a sand tornado, and you're like, what the fuck is that?
02:32:27.000They are often referred to as twisters or cyclones, although the word cyclone is used in meteorology, in a wider sense, to name any closed low-pressure circulation.
02:32:36.000Tornadoes come in many shapes and sizes, but they're typically...
02:32:48.000Have you ever seen the video from Dallas, Texas from two years ago where semis were flying through the air?
02:34:59.000Yeah, it is on her terms, especially when we're fucking around, lighting shit on fire, and sending rocket ships into space, fucking with the air, and airplanes burning fuel, and cars are burning fuel, and adding to the pollution.
02:35:16.000But even if we didn't, even if we didn't add, even if we didn't, the place is a goddamn horrifying mess.
02:35:20.000Even if we didn't do a goddamn thing, if we lived our lives completely ecocentric, if we lived our lives with organic farming, if we lived our lives in a completely harmonious way with nature, we could still get smushed by a big rock from space.
02:36:30.000There was an invention that they had come up with for people that were hard of hearing before they had hearing aids, and you would hold it up to your ear and it would magnify the sound.
02:37:00.000Yeah, if someone's going to do time travel, I don't think they would go to the Charlie Chaplin days.
02:37:04.000Yeah, what are you going to hang around here and do that for?
02:37:07.000Could you imagine if we did find out that some dude's been fucking traveling back in time from the future and we get up to the future one day and we meet him?
02:37:50.000Yeah, now you got Gary Clark Jr. And I'm not saying Gary Clark Jr. is equivalent to Hendrix, but I'm saying, look, there's always going to be Honey Honey.
02:37:56.000There's always going to be new bands that come out.
02:37:59.000There's always going to be cool new sounds.
02:38:46.000And I think, oh, it's not, because if you're concerned with yourself and what you're up to, you turn out to be a better product for the other people around you.
02:38:53.000You say, oh, wow, this guy's actually spent some time with himself to understand more about...
02:38:57.000Selfish is a weird word, though, because when I think of selfish, I think of like...
02:39:02.000Like, you know those movies where, like, people are trapped somewhere and it turns out one dude's been hogging all the food and lying about it?
02:39:46.000Remember, they used to look at the label in the store, and you look at these people in a shopping store, and they're looking at the label, and these are words you don't even know what they mean many years ago.
02:41:09.000If oranges didn't exist, okay, if they didn't exist and you had to go to some crazy exotic location to find an orange, like a real good ripe Florida orange, one of those big plump ones where it's easy to peel and you bite into that fucker and you're like, oh, it's so delicious.
02:43:36.000So let's talk about your tank center and the new place that you guys are doing.
02:43:41.000And what's the difference between what you're doing and what...
02:43:45.000A lot of these commercial places that are using these home tanks, there's a real problem with that, right?
02:43:51.000As far as infections, as far as safety, everything needs to be moved to a higher standard.
02:43:59.000That's certainly our opinion of the situation.
02:44:02.000We've been working with NSF and the other state and local authorities then to get in tune with what's required as far as rules and regulations.
02:44:16.000We have a three-log kill, what they call it, which is a 99.9 of all the microorganisms that are infected.
02:44:22.000They infect the water, then they see how long it takes to eradicate this infection.
02:44:26.000And obviously this is a big difference between someone who just has one that's only for them, only for their own personal use, which is like a lot of these more low-end ones, and someone who is running a commercial business.
02:44:36.000Sort of like the difference between your home pool and your swimming pool at the gym.
02:44:39.000I always like to say, you know, it's like opening a restaurant with an easy-bake oven.
02:45:20.000The vessel itself generally contaminates the specimen, but we have such a small body of water and such an intense system there of cleaning that they tested the material in the vessel and we still got the 3-log and surpassed that.
02:45:33.000But that's within one cleaning cycle without any use of chemicals.
02:45:37.000The problem with chemicals now, which is what everybody else has to do due to the fact that they are unwilling to spend the money on the disinfection process, which is this, I told you about this, UV lights, like $9,000, $7,500 for the generators and so on.
02:45:51.000It's a lot of bread to get it right, man.
02:45:54.000Electrical stuff, see our UL listing as well.
02:46:12.000Yeah, fucking Shifty's got us before, you know, and we've heard his story, but the facts are the facts.
02:46:18.000You need to go into a laboratory and evaluate the situation correctly, utilizing, you know, methods that are ethical, not, you know...
02:46:29.000You're pouring this chemicals, chlorine and bromine and peroxide, whatever it is in there, you're breaking down now this material and then creating a byproduct.
02:46:40.000This byproduct then, you know, you're getting in there with it and you're sweating or pissing or spitting or whatever.
02:46:45.000Then you're mixing you with this, you know, the ammonia or nitrogen.
02:46:48.000That's what a lot of people have an issue with.
02:46:50.000When I talk to them about the tank, they always say that.
02:46:51.000Like, I'm going to get in the water that someone else has been in.
02:46:57.000If these things are not dealt with properly, it's an infestation.
02:47:03.000And as the popularity of these things grows, this is something we really need to consider because this is something that could become an issue for some folks.
02:47:10.000And I know that you're very conscientious about this.
02:47:13.000And this is one of the main focuses of conversation that we've had over the years is about this need to make sure that everything is at the same standards as the tanks that you have.
02:47:22.000It's important for the people that are doing this to have a product then that is credible, that has been designed correctly, that's had a lot of time and effort spent to verify how it actually works and what it does,
02:48:12.000For people then to do this, because if you don't have it and people come away from it with a bad, you know, how long is it going to last?
02:48:20.000The industry, you know, it needs to have guidelines and standards set up to adhere to, then to become a credible...
02:48:28.000Well, I commend the fact also that you're meeting it head-on before it becomes a big issue.
02:48:33.000There's not a lot of people that are reporting infections, a lot of people that have become sick because of it.
02:48:38.000But if this industry continues to grow, the potential instances of people not taking care of their water can rise, and that could potentially damage the reputation that you fought so hard to try to let people know about the positive benefits of this.
02:49:35.000We have a task group that's been formed with both the Canadian Ministry of Health and several health and safety officials here in this country, state-wise, local-wise, and NSF, National Sanitization Foundation, to set up these guidelines.
02:49:49.000So they're realizing that this industry is growing and they're stepping in?
02:50:12.000Do you think that it's possible for you to make two different tanks to make a commercial fully sanitized unit and make a unit for the home that's less complex and more affordable?
02:50:22.000See, we were thinking about that because naturally that would be a good business sense.
02:50:27.000But we got back to the point again, it's like, in order to do it right, this is what it costs.
02:50:32.000I mean, we could make it Mickey Mouse or whatever.
02:50:34.000But is it Mickey Mouse for the consumer?
02:51:07.000I mean, I know that the equipment is really costly and it's really high-end, but all I'm trying to say is with our last five minutes of time before we turn into a pumpkin, all I'm trying to say is, is it possible that it could be made into a consumer unit?
02:51:22.000Yes, it would be, but back to the liability.
02:51:25.000See, in order to get this right and not harm anybody by different things, it's not easy.
02:51:34.000How much more do you have to say about this stuff?