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00:02:07.000What kettlebells are is an ancient Russian method of lifting weights.
00:02:12.000It's like a cannonball with a handle on it and using momentum and swinging these things.
00:02:16.000The goal of the kettlebell is to strengthen the entire body as one individual unit.
00:02:22.000Like a lot of times when you see people lifting weights, they do things like if you go to the standard gym setup, A lot of times people are doing what you call isolation exercises, like curls or things along those lines, tricep extensions that are really just working one body muscle group.
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00:12:06.000I'm kind of obsessed with Scientology because it's so fucking retarded in one way, in one sense to me, but in the other sense, because it's so serious and all the craziness you hear about.
00:12:16.000So I've really looked into it, L. Ron Hubbard.
00:12:27.000This book, it was like the foreshadowing for Scientology, and that he tried to get it published, and three or four people that read it committed suicide, so he locked it in a vault, and there's a copy of it, and no one ever knows where that is,
00:12:43.000but that was where Scientology was born from.
00:14:20.000I'm very fascinated with that kind of...
00:14:24.000And that's why the whole Scientology thing to me is so fascinating because I'm like, how do these people, they pay money to join this fucking club?
00:14:36.000It's like, you know, it's real like AA and all that stuff in the sense that it's like, you know, your new friends and your old friends and they assign people to you and then eventually you kind of weed out all those other people.
00:14:46.000But the whole concept of it is taking, the whole concept of Dianetics is taking, like when you're a little kid and a dog bites you and then for the rest of your life you're scared of dogs, like the whole concept behind Dianetics is that they can take the memory,
00:15:02.000what they call a reactive memory, which is like the dog thing, And they can turn it into a regular memory so that you won't get rid of all of those kind of little things that fucked you up through life.
00:16:02.000I've been living here 15 years, and my old band, we used to rehearse on Hollywood and Vine in this place, and there was a daycare next door.
00:18:32.000He just talks about how he's blowing rails with Britney Spears all day long and driving down.
00:18:37.000He's just talking about being coked out of his face and how he's like Scientology rules and he's looking for bitches and hanging out with Travolta and doing rails and shit.
00:20:16.000Yeah, I don't think that's responsible either.
00:20:18.000I think there's a reason why they've come up with a lot of these drugs, and some people have benefited tremendously.
00:20:22.000There's people that just have natural chemical imbalances in their brain.
00:20:26.000And the idea that someone who doesn't know how your brain works can say, you know, oh, you don't need it because I don't need it, or you don't need it because Mike doesn't need it, Tom Cruise doesn't need it, so, you know, John, fuck over here, he doesn't need it either.
00:20:49.000I agree, I don't think they're all bad.
00:21:03.000There's a lot of people that don't take care of themselves and then just they get depressed and just take a pill and then now they're better.
00:21:11.000Maybe you would have been better off if you started eating better and maybe stopped drinking as much and doing a little bit of exercise every now and then and probably you'd feel better.
00:21:24.000When you see a guy like Tom Cruise, who is undeniably wacky, but also undeniably successful, the guy is always positive, like he does these interviews, he's got a lot of great energy, and it's like, man, there's a benefit to that.
00:21:41.000There's definitely something to that, especially when you get a guy who's in that much, I mean, that much power and has had that much success, you know, and has that much influence, like...
00:21:50.000I mean, I know that they treat him like he's the L. Ron Hubbard Jr. or something, so I'm sure he's loving that side of it, but the reality is that For him to have stuck by it, there's got to be something too.
00:22:06.000Like I said, the audiobook of Dianetics, as funny as that is, it is so fascinating because it explains why he's always in a fucking good mood all the time.
00:22:16.000He's like, I'm really good at this clear thing.
00:22:19.000He's really figured it out and he's really happy all the time.
00:22:25.000Or, you know, he might just shut the door when the day is done and fucking wail and scream and fucking fish all over the ground flopping around like a fucking animal.
00:24:37.000And next thing you know, you're fucking holding on to these Campbell's soup cans that are attached with little wires, and they're ordering you.
00:25:22.000They had to play a fake news reporter and convince people to tell them they had been abducted by aliens and all this different wacky shit.
00:25:32.000But while we were there, we were filming, they had this dynetics set up, because it was in this outside public place where a lot of foot traffic was.
00:25:39.000So they had the Dianetics set up and they had their e-meter or whatever they called it.
00:26:11.000When he did the auditing, though, I'm sure because they're trying to convince someone to come back that they're not going to start delving into real personal shit, but I'm sure like, what do you do?
00:26:22.000I don't remember because it was very unremarkable.
00:26:25.000I remember I was baked, which is part of the problem.
00:26:29.000Which is why I was willing to do it in the first place, because otherwise I would have probably just hovered and watched other people do it.
00:26:35.000But, you know, it was dumb questions, like dumb questions about your childhood, are you happy with your career, are you happy in your relationship, and they just get a reading on you, allegedly, from this non-scientific measuring instrument.
00:26:52.000I see we could spend the whole thing talking about this because it's one of those things where there's a bunch of people in on a joke, and you're just wanting someone to say, okay, we're just fucking with you.
00:27:20.000Like, I'm reading about this, after you brought up Excalibur, what you were talking about, and I pulled up that website that mocked Scientology, Xenu.net.
00:27:29.000Oh, I've never been there, but this is not going to be my favorite site, probably.
00:27:40.000I grabbed that off WikiLeaks and was, like, looking at that.
00:27:43.000The Operating Thetans manual, like, level three, which is apparently where, I guess, Tom Cruise is, like, four or five or six or something, but he was three a couple years.
00:27:54.000Like, they have different manuals, you know, so.
00:27:56.000He was three a couple years ago, and now he's four, five, or six?
00:28:10.000That was like, they made up this thing they'd never had before.
00:28:13.000It was like Guardian of the Galaxy Award, you know?
00:28:16.000And they gave it to him, and he was like...
00:28:18.000He's like saying all that shit that made no sense and using all their words and stuff, you know, and that leaked to the internet and people putting music to it and shit.
00:29:18.000That's the only way a good politician would work.
00:29:20.000The only way that you could have a president in this country that was actually going to care about the people is they'd have to lie their way from the beginning to the moment they get in office and they didn't have to flip.
00:29:30.000You'd have to also have a cabinet that was in on the lie.
00:29:34.000You'd have to have everybody with you that was working with you.
00:29:37.000Like, okay, we're just fucking around.
00:29:38.000We're going to get in there and we're going to just change everything.
00:29:57.000When Windows 95 had the fucking Start Me Up and the Rolling Stones, and now whatever their commercials are, now it's the same fucking company.
00:30:05.000It just looks different and everything.
00:30:20.000I may be going against a lot of people's opinions of this, but people who are so gung-ho on these certain politicians and lobbying for this person, and they're so excited that Obama's going to fucking change everything.
00:31:39.000He says on the interview, he's like, we're going to fuck you and you're going to watch it on TV and you're going to be crying when it happens.
00:31:46.000And like 400 people watched it and nobody cared.
00:31:48.000And like at the exact moment they were airing it is when like Monica Lewinsky or OJ was like in the prime and everyone's like looking over here while like this guy over here.
00:31:57.000And Osama's just as fucking bullshitty as fucking the president's and everything.
00:32:45.000See, I mean, there's like the Crowley Church and there's like the LeVay Church, which is what you're kind of talking about, which is just essentially like...
00:32:59.000But, like, the writings and the teachings and the things where they reference Satan as, you know, and all those kind of, like, rituals and shit are silly because it's like you've got to be in the frame of reference of Christianity and the Bible and all that.
00:33:40.000To fix the system, you have to end banking, you have to end the Federal Reserve, you have to get the corporations out of control of the media and everything.
00:34:13.000Water goes through, when you see springs, like natural springs that come out, that water's going through all this rock and all this ground, and in doing so, it filters everything out, so the water comes out really pure and delicious to drink.
00:34:27.000But it could start out really fucked up, and then it all gets...
00:34:32.000Well, the opposite is true with politics.
00:34:34.000You could have a great idea, and you could have someone who has great intentions, but by the time they get through the filter of, Corporations and special interest groups and lobbyists and this and that.
00:35:01.000That, you know, the 99%ers, 1%ers thing.
00:35:05.000I mean, because you just have these, you just, the corporations have too much control, and they're, like, the net neutrality thing, they're trying to cut that out, and that's like, they're literally giving all the power to, like, these, you know, Viacom and shit like that.
00:35:19.000Not only that, Viacom is a, any time you look at a corporation as an individual, which is what they keep trying to do, they're doing that as far as their Ability to donate to political campaigns.
00:35:31.000They're doing it as far as their responsibilities.
00:35:35.000They're trying to look at corporations as if these entities should be given rights like an individual, given rights like a human being.
00:35:44.000But that's crazy, because in doing so, what you're also doing when you have a corporation is you dissolve the responsibility of each individual for the actions of the group.
00:35:55.000If you're going to give corporations the responsibilities, or if you're going to give corporations the rights of an individual, you should also be able to charge every individual in the corporation as if they were guilty for anything that the corporation is in trouble for.
00:36:09.000And if you did that, then it would change the actions entirely of the corporation.
00:36:14.000Because right now, say if you're part of a corporation, this corporation likes to go to Guatemala, And build cell phones and in the meantime you fucking shoot rabbits and fucking poison the wells and you know who knows what kind of horrible anti-human shit they're doing in these third world countries and pollution and genocide and there's a group of people that doesn't want them to clear cut so they fucking gun these people down and you find out about it all later and Everyone involved in the corporation should be responsible for
00:36:44.000it, and that's the only way you would ever stop any of that shit from going on.
00:36:48.000If you looked at BP, perfect example, the oil spill in the Gulf, which just Fucked up so many people's lives.
00:36:59.000I mean, there's so many people that don't have a voice.
00:37:01.000You're not hearing from the fishermen.
00:37:03.000You're not hearing from the people that had to clean that shit up.
00:37:06.000You're not hearing from the people that lived in the towns close to the water that got really sick because of the dispersants.
00:39:33.0001988, and they killed off a massive amount of salmon and the fisheries.
00:39:37.000Godzilla's about to come out of there, man.
00:39:40.000Yeah, but then there's people like you and I that drive cars and need gas, and you buy an iPhone, and how's it going to fucking get to the Apple Store?
00:39:48.000Someone's got to put that bitch in a truck and just got to drive it over there.
00:40:16.000And then there's so much momentum also.
00:40:20.000The thing about politics and the thing about the influence of corporations and special interest groups is that It's sort of been this way for so long that to come in now and try...
00:40:31.000It's almost like there's a train running through your neighborhood.
00:40:50.000Well, all the things that we're doing to try to...
00:40:54.000To reform politics, like from an individual point of view, whether it's complaining about it online or writing blogs or doing this and that.
00:41:00.000It's akin to trying to grab a hold of the back of the train and dig your heels in.
00:41:38.000But at this point in time, they've convinced this entire country and they've convinced the entire world that this is how things work and you have to go along with it.
00:41:54.000They squeeze the middle and lower class out of that, you know, so that they're freaked out all the time, that both parents are having to work all the time, that the kids are in shitty daycares where the education is terrible, and it's like that's how they keep that in control,
00:42:10.000But most people just walk through life and accept that and just say that's the way it is.
00:42:15.000And, you know, it's very few people that actually stand up and try and Figure something else out, but there's not really a solution, especially that someone like me could give anyone.
00:42:24.000But at the same time, I can sit back and look at it and comment on it.
00:42:29.000With the Black Ribbons record, that was my getting.
00:42:34.000It was right when the economy fell in 2009, at the very beginning.
00:42:44.000George Bush was missing and Obama was looking real glorious at the time but nobody was doing anything about the collapse of the economy and then the bank bailouts were happening and it was just like man this is insane it was like the scariest little point of time you know and and that's kind of where that album came out of and and for me it was really my comment on the whole thing and by having Stephen King be the DJ and do all that shit like Like what his character was really what the record was about and it was kind of like keeping hope and
00:43:14.000you know small communities and family and you know those kind of like friendships and things like that that level is the only way that people like unions you know were started because it was like people were like I can't take this shit we can't take this shit anymore and Like that connection,
00:43:31.000that level, that's where you can grab the train and you can, you know, with enough people.
00:43:37.000When I was in New York living at the time when the Occupy Wall Street thing happened and my daughter was going to a school in the financial district.
00:43:45.000So like when I drop her off at school and me and my buddy would walk over to the To the Occupy Wall Street, just hang out in the middle of the whole thing, you know?
00:43:53.000And it got a bad rap, and it had all these different things, but those motherfuckers were standing up to the man, and the man was, like, fucking shooting the beanbags at him and shit, and, you know, it was really crazy.
00:44:03.000Like, they had books, and the cops were burning the books and shit.
00:44:07.000It was like some scene out of, like, Nazi Germany when we walked over.
00:44:10.000There was pouring rain, there were people in the trees.
00:44:13.000Like, every 10 or 20 minutes, like, a whole bunch of cops with those fucking...
00:44:17.000Guard things would run through the fucking place and knock some guy over.
00:44:29.000I think someone filmed it and I was there for it.
00:44:32.000I'm sitting in the middle of that thing, that encampment, the Occupy Wall Street thing with my friend Lincoln and we turn around, man, and this fucking cop comes running with that fucking shield and just slips because it's raining and he just eats shit and falls down,
00:44:56.000This motherfucker just bit, ate shit running into that thing, and everybody was just laughing about it.
00:45:02.000All that Occupy stuff, to me, it signals that this possibility, like, it wasn't entirely successful.
00:45:09.000It sort of awakened people to the idea of protesting, you know, that you could protest on a mass scale to get a lot of attention, and that people are willing to get involved, because a lot of people did get involved.
00:46:23.000It was a long time ago, but it was because he had said that if there was more than three people that were together, that were protesting together as a group, they would be shot on sight.
00:46:44.000When you have a million people in the streets that are calling for your head, the gig is up.
00:46:50.000The numbers when you deal with the President and the Secret Service and then the government and the military, the actual numbers of those people that you would need to protect against a mob of five million Americans that have had enough And then come with rifles and guns and just storm the gates.
00:47:26.000If the shit hits the fan, if the shit hits the fan like that, and all of a sudden you've got three or four million people that are showing up on the White House lawn, and then they start storming en masse, and they literally call for the president's head and rip him apart on national television.
00:47:43.000That's not outside the realm of possibility.
00:47:47.000Given a few terrible decisions, a natural disaster, a nuclear bomb goes off somewhere in Chicago, The fucking shit hits the fan, and then next thing you know, there's a million people with guns.
00:48:03.000And that's what I got out of Occupy Wall Street.
00:48:05.000I got out, like, this kind of dissent It's manifesting itself in this form right now where there's a bunch of people with fucking drum circles and they're saying enough is enough.
00:49:12.000They're hacking your hard drive, and they're going right in there, pulling out all your data, pulling all your credit card information, putting out all your contacts.
00:49:21.000If you are a person that's involved in some controversial activity...
00:49:26.000Everyone that you call, everyone that you talk to, they get monitored now.
00:49:30.000If you start talking crazy shit about the government on this podcast, then you make a phone call.
00:49:35.000If the NSA decides to monitor you, they're gonna monitor your buddies, they're gonna monitor people you fucking play pool with, they're gonna monitor a guy you go drinking with.
00:49:45.000Everybody gets monitored and you all become suspects.
00:49:48.000I started getting monitored after I went on this show.
00:49:51.000Oh, before you even decided to go on this show.
00:49:54.000When I was tweeting about you, you probably started getting monitored.
00:50:26.000Yeah, it's like an online role-playing game with millions of players going around the world.
00:50:32.000And they had NSA agents in there because they were saying that the terrorist groups were meeting in those games.
00:50:40.000They would go in the game and they'd meet and they had to talk in there.
00:50:43.000So they said that they had so many NSA agents in World of Warcraft that they had to assign other NSA agents to watch those NSA agents inside World of Warcraft.
00:50:52.000I mean, can't you see these motherfuckers sitting there playing like a level 50 wizard?
00:51:13.000I'm going to go in an online game and...
00:51:17.000I wonder how many times there have been undercover sting operations where an undercover drug dealer was selling drugs to an undercover DEA agent posing as a guy to buy drugs.
00:52:39.000After that girl, I'm going to join the NSA. I'm going to work my way all the way to the top just so I can fuck her for the rest of her life.
00:55:12.000But when you look at it and you look at the NSA shit and all that, it's like, You know, it's just hard to get all hyped up and excited about it.
00:55:22.000I mean, but our world changed so much, man.
00:55:24.000I was talking to, I'm 35, and I was talking to a friend of mine about this, about how my generation, it was like, our world is so fucked compared to everybody else's because, I mean, it's probably just getting worse for the other kids, but you know, we saw...
00:55:40.000When we were 14, Kurt Cobain blew his brains out.
00:55:44.000So by that time, everybody's kind of hopeful.
00:55:48.000And then when that happens, that's the first time that's ever happened.
00:56:41.000Like televised or broadcast in certain ways, newspapers like death, mass death and weird crazy shit like that.
00:56:50.000But you look at, there was always this kind of hopefulness and I think like after 9-11 and after kind of everything that's going on, people are really like disillusioned to it.
00:57:00.000We don't have that same kind of feeling that was going on in the 80s and 90s.
00:57:24.000Goddamn so happy to be in America, of course, because you're in New York City and it's beautiful and there is a beauty to that in what we offer the rest of the world and people that are in these fucking terrible countries and they escape and they come here and it's like that.
00:57:36.000Yeah, in comparison to the Congo, we're awesome.
00:57:39.000Yeah, in comparison to the Congo, we are awesome, but at the same time, we're like kids that I think the couple generations before us, it was like the parents stayed together, and it was like, great, we're the kids, the mom shot the dad and got away with it.
00:58:10.000I just feel like we kind of are this weird...
00:58:13.000This world that we're in and the three of us and everybody that we know kind of now, it's like we have this kind of just disdain for things.
00:58:20.000Like you look at this fucking Sandy Hook and all these terrible things that are happening.
00:58:24.000And everyone wants to focus on the gun rights thing when there's like mental health issues that need to be dealt with.
00:58:34.000It's like, but changing the system and trying to get ready, just everything just seems so fucked, you know?
00:58:40.000Like, you wake up and you just want to watch cartoons.
00:58:43.000You definitely don't want to watch the news and you definitely don't want to- Well, one of the reasons why things are so fucked as far as our perceptions is because we're getting more information about the real dealings of our government now than ever before.
00:58:56.000Because of guys like Julian Assange and because of guys like Edward Snowden, one of the things that people don't like about it is like, well, you know, they're exposing American secrets, they're putting Americans at risk.
00:59:06.000Well, maybe what Americans are doing is putting Americans at risk because what they're doing is exposing truth.
00:59:12.000They're exposing things that we don't like.
00:59:14.000I remember after September 11th, one of the things that I found the most shocking about it all was how many American flags are on people's cars.
00:59:23.000Like, I would drive to work and- That was crazy, I remember.
01:00:56.000Those shows, they gravitate towards the fantastic and avoid simplicity.
01:01:06.000Avoid what would be boring TV, which is really the juice.
01:01:10.000Yeah, but also avoid other possible scenarios that aren't as sexy.
01:01:15.000There's a lot of incompetence involved in government.
01:01:18.000Sometimes people, they misconstrue conspiracy.
01:01:21.000They think of it as a conspiracy when it's really just a bunch of idiots that did a shitty job of protecting people and then the scramble afterwards.
01:01:30.000And then people that have capitalized on the scramble and made money.
01:01:36.000And then people look at the people who capitalized on the event and say, oh, well, this is clear evidence that there was a conspiracy and these people are the ones that profited off of it.
01:01:59.000And people get involved in these conspiracy discussions, and unfortunately what happens is...
01:02:04.000When you start labeling a bunch of shit conspiracies that aren't really conspiracies, you throw the whole thing into a tizzy.
01:02:12.000Because now no one knows what the fuck to believe.
01:02:14.000And if I find out that you're wrong about a bunch of ridiculous conspiracy assumptions, if you're wrong about those, what am I supposed to think about all the other shit that you're saying?
01:04:14.000It helps anyone in government because it also shows that any time there's any sort of a cataclysmic disaster, any time there's any sort of an event like a 9-11...
01:04:22.000There's so much scrambling and there's so much chaos afterwards that it's impossible to get a clear story on what exactly happened.
01:04:32.000It's like when they're involved in something.
01:04:34.000That's why Edward Snowden and people like that really terrify him.
01:04:37.000Because they tried to, you know, they planted fake Snowden stories that were like, there was a UFO one that they were trying to plant them so he would look like a kook.
01:04:48.000It would be like an article in some European magazine saying that Snowden papers say that the government knew about UFOs and has had them for a long time and all this.
01:07:36.000Like, I got abducted by aliens and my ass got probed and all this shit.
01:07:39.000Like, I see these people and you're like, these poor people are so lonely and they got nothing going on and they either dream this shit up or they're taking Ambien walking around in their front yard to sleep and, you know, have this thing or whatever it is.
01:08:26.000Yeah, because they had this lady who's supposed to be the real lady and they have her interviews with Mila Jovovich acting out the scenes, but it was all fake.
01:08:46.000The real problem is when you deal with the people that are involved in the quote-unquote UFO community.
01:08:52.000I've interviewed a ton of those for that television show, and I sat down.
01:08:56.000The show, each episode was only an hour long, but in that hour-long episode, I had several hour-plus-long conversations with a lot of different people that were involved in these things.
01:09:06.000And one thing that you get out of them is that these motherfuckers only have one option.
01:09:11.000That option in their head is that UFOs are real, even if they haven't seen shit themselves.
01:09:16.000And what they're not taking into account is how many people are liars.
01:11:03.000I'm alone, and the doorbell's ringing on the inside of the house, and this fucking sucks, and I'm hammered, so I'm like, getting the knife out, you know?
01:12:52.000But I remember reading that one of the experts that they were interviewing was talking about your lack of ability to make critical decisions and that it goes out the window.
01:13:02.000It's one of the first symptoms of meth use.
01:13:05.000As people start doing, like rational people start doing really irrational things and don't seem to understand the consequences of it.
01:13:16.000You know, you see several steps ahead.
01:13:18.000Like, you say, like, well, you know, if I go outside and light that car on fire, well, if it explodes, and then what if the tree catches on fire, and then the building catches on fire, fuck, man, I could start a big fire.
01:13:47.000There have been times and places where someone has had that shit.
01:13:53.000I mean, I'm not, like, fucking doing blow all day long or anything, but there have been times I've done shows and shit, and they're just moving around and be like, hey, man, you want to party?
01:14:47.000It's like really, really powerful Coke.
01:14:48.000So, like, I can't stay up all night on Coke, and I have stayed up all night one time on meth.
01:14:52.000Just one line of it, of just being up, and you just like play the guitar, and you're like singing, and you're just so into singing, you know?
01:14:59.000But in the Southeast, where we play a lot, it's so big down there.
01:15:04.000My buddies that live in Kentucky and stuff, it's everywhere, and their buddies all do it.
01:15:12.000Sometimes they'll do it occasionally, and then one of the guys will start doing it too much.
01:15:17.000There's tons of sad stories, guys with kids and shit that are just doing it and staying up for eight or nine days, and the kids have no idea, and they're fucking just wired.
01:16:04.000I've never done heroin, but I know people who have done heroin.
01:16:06.000I know there's that immediate euphoria thing.
01:16:10.000And with meth, the reason why it's so cheap...
01:16:14.000It's so much more potent, and I think that's why it's such a big deal.
01:16:20.000It's easy to make with weird shit and Drano and all this fucking shit in it, and Sudafed and all that.
01:16:27.000They got to in the South where they had to move Sudafed behind the counter, because...
01:16:31.000People were coming in and buying like six, seven packs of Sudafed.
01:16:35.000Well, if you buy it out here, you have to give your driver's license.
01:16:37.000Yeah, that started in the South where they were like real fast.
01:16:41.000But I mean, you know, I mean, there's probably been times I may have done it like where I thought I was doing something else and then I'm like, oh, that's definitely crank.
01:17:09.000I mean, if you're the type of person who's never done cocaine and you do cocaine and all of a sudden you're like, fuck, I gotta do more cocaine all the fucking time.
01:17:15.000I know certain people that are into coke like that, but I can never do that.
01:17:19.000If I have done coke, I can't do it for another couple days.
01:17:22.000I'm not the guy who stays up all night and does the whole bag.
01:17:26.000I'll do a bump or something like that.
01:17:28.000It's been a long time since I've done it, but if I did do it, I would just do small amounts of it, you know, here or there.
01:17:34.000But there are people that if you have that personality where you're going to be the guy who locks himself in a hotel room for three days and does blow and doesn't show up for your job and all that shit just because you got a bag of blow at a party, you know, then you're going to have a problem with crank.
01:17:49.000But I think it's the same kind of thing, though.
01:18:18.000I do it at night after my kids sleep to go to bed.
01:18:21.000It's never going to fuck you up so much you can't snap out of it and fucking make a good decision.
01:18:27.000There's times you can be like, man, I shouldn't have fucking ate that old pizza.
01:18:31.000But it's not like I went and robbed my mom's house and I woke up two days later in a ditch and I'm like, Fuck, I probably shouldn't have done that crank.
01:19:03.000And, like, when you're using something that's fueling your heart rate and keeping you...
01:19:06.000Your brain is still acting as if you are not on the drugs and you've been up for five days and you're seeing shit, but yet you're just wired from that shit.
01:19:25.000I lived right there behind the Fat Burger.
01:19:27.000And there was a house there that notoriously had been...
01:19:30.000Like, tweakers, like, kicked the door down and came in and were just fucking, like, tied the whole family up and shit and robbed them with their money.
01:19:36.000Because that's all they want, is they want money to buy more crank.
01:21:30.000I have to say, I'm a foodie too in all this, and while we're on this, I don't know why I popped in my head, but there was a tweet you sent out that I saved the photograph and I look at it.
01:21:39.000When you had like seven eggs, and it was clearly a little butter in the pan too, and I cooked too, and I was looking at this fucking thing, and I was like, God...
01:21:46.000I could eat that all day and all night, but the fact that you have that photograph, the seven eggs, I have it in my phone right now.
01:24:56.000And Johnny had a bunch of fish that he'd already caught.
01:24:59.000And he had them rigged somewhere so he was going to try and make it where my dad would actually think he caught something because he could never go through it.
01:25:30.000It's funny, isn't it, that country music is inexorably connected to, like, hunting and fishing.
01:25:35.000Yeah, well, I mean, naturally, I guess, you know, because of the era and the, like, you know, if you go back a little bit, I mean, not very far from my dad's generation, him growing up and all the...
01:25:46.000All of the Grand Ole Opry and all that.
01:25:48.000I mean, all those guys were into that.
01:26:15.000It's funny because now, if they're critical of...
01:26:18.000I don't represent myself pretending to be anything I'm not, but if someone was ever critical of the fact that I live in LA and I'm not a country boy and I play country style music, it's like, do you guys really think that Jason Aldean and these new country guys that are so big,
01:26:34.000you really think those guys' daily existence is...
01:26:37.000Tailgate parties and hunting and things like that.
01:26:39.000You guys are fucking retarded because they're shopping for shoes on Melrose.
01:28:34.000This shirt is based on Terrence McKenna's stoned ape theory, that lower hominids ate mushrooms, and then they had this ideal of nuclear power and spirituality.
01:28:44.000Yeah, that's what this shirt represents.
01:28:50.000It's an interesting idea that his brother, Dennis McKenna, who's still alive, is a fascinating guy himself, actually substantiated with science in a way that's way better than I ever could.
01:29:02.000If you want to listen to the first podcast that I did with Dennis McKenna, he explains the actual effect that psilocybin has on the mind and why it would facilitate the construction of language.
01:29:16.000What McKenna's theory was that what happened to lower primates is that somewhere around a million plus years ago when Over a period of two million years,
01:30:34.000Yeah, and there's a bunch of different reasons why, besides the facilitation of language, which is the very specific reaction that psilocybin has on the human mind, and why Dennis McKenna described it very well.
01:31:10.000So the mushroom-eating monkeys would have a biological advantage over the non-mushroom-eating monkeys.
01:31:18.000Well, you do know if a bunch of monkeys are walking around and one of them eats mushrooms, and all of a sudden he's like, you know they're going to be like, dudes, you guys got to try this shit.
01:31:28.000Out of all the things that make sense as far as looking at the effects that a substance has on the body, what would cause massive consumption of the substance over a long period of time, like 2 million years?
01:31:43.000What would cause direct changes to the human body?
01:31:46.000What would cause direct changes to the actual function of the mind?
01:32:20.000Well, apparently he did a bunch of DMT when he was doing the record and was just like, yeah, that song itself talks about DMT and psilocybin and stuff in it.
01:32:29.000But it's like real old school country.
01:33:15.000Yeah, what's the deal with the aliens with DMT? Well, there's something that happens when you take DMT where you pass through, visually or spiritually, whether it's real or...
01:33:34.000But if you open your eyes, you're going to see some crazy shit, too.
01:33:37.000You'll see some crazy shit, though, that's also...
01:33:39.000You're better off keeping your eyes closed, though, because then you'll get sort of a full representation of what's going on and what you're seeing.
01:33:46.000When your eyes are open, your eyes are taking in the physical world, like what you're seeing in front of you, and you're trying to combine the two of them, and it's very baffling and confusing.
01:33:55.000So it's better to just shut your eyes.
01:35:38.000Yeah, like Rick Strassman, who was the guy who...
01:35:41.000He was one of the first guys to get federal...
01:35:44.000He got federal permission, the DEA's permission, to do these research studies on dimethyltryptamine intravenously in patients.
01:35:54.000He did it at the University of New Mexico, and they did several of these, and then he wrote a book on it called DMT, the spirit molecule, where...
01:36:03.000These people had these incredible, incredible experiences while on this intravenous dimethyltryptamine, and repeatable experiences that would go to these, and very, very, very much mirrored the alien abduction experiences that people would talk about, like being taken aboard alien spacecrafts and being brought to alien places and alien lands,
01:36:25.000Yeah, so he started connecting dimethyltryptamine and endogenous dumps of dimethyltryptamine to alien abduction experiences, and that's what he thinks that's all about.
01:36:33.000He thinks all of these people that have these, like, I woke up in the middle of the night, I was on a spaceship, your brain just dumped a bunch of DMT in, and somehow or another you got caught in the middle of this world of being awake.
01:37:55.000Well, what ayahuasca is is an orally active form of DMT. Because DMT, when you smoke it, it goes directly into your blood supply.
01:38:03.000But DMT is in so many different plants that if you got it from eating it, you would be tripping your balls out every time you have a salad.
01:38:34.000Like today, in the United States, in the modern chemical world, there's scientists that have figured out how to synthesize pure DMT. So they take it from plants or, you know, from various chemicals and they synthesize pure DMT. You smoke it.
01:39:54.000Sacred geometry and fractals and all those different...
01:39:57.000When you look at just the nature of the universe itself, just the nature of cellular life, subatomic particles, atoms becoming individuals, individuals being a part of a group of individuals that live on a planet, the planet being a part of the galaxy,
01:40:12.000the galaxy being a part of the universe, on and on and on and on and on.
01:40:16.000It seems like there's a fractal geometric nature to life itself.
01:40:21.000The Fibonacci sequence that describes the way sunflower seeds are developed, the way a nautilus shell looks, the way so many different plants grow.
01:40:31.000There's all this weird sort of fractal mathematical nature to the world itself.
01:42:56.000And every time they would say, look at this, they would show you something that was so impossibly beautiful, like tears were flowing down my face.
01:43:25.000The fractal nature of the universe embodied in imagery, which also had meaning and love connected to it.
01:43:34.000So when you're seeing it, you weren't just seeing something beautiful, but you were feeling it.
01:43:39.000And it was like, almost like it was running through your soul, like it was cleansing you as you saw it.
01:43:43.000Like everything that I saw made me, every time I saw it, every new thing made me love people more, made me love life more, made me more appreciative, made me want to hug more.
01:43:54.000And then I thought that was over, and they would go, look at this!
01:43:56.000And then you'd get hit with a new wave.
01:44:08.000I've had negative experiences in that DMT has sort of exposed that I was maybe a little out of control in my life, like maybe too stressed out or maybe taking too much time.
01:44:21.000Devoted too much time to work and bullshit-related things.
01:46:17.000Discovering where things come from and studying the Egyptians and studying the fucking artwork.
01:46:24.000I'm just into it, so that's why I like to make DMT. If I could travel to other dimensions and party with reptiles, I would do it right now.
01:46:33.000Well, you can with DMT. I don't know about reptiles.
01:46:36.000I've never seen a reptile wall on it, but I've seen things that are somehow or another consciousness or appear to be conscious or are representations of your own consciousness in some sort of a much pure, much greater form.
01:46:51.000But you know who else wasn't a church-going person?
01:47:17.000You know, to have an open-minded, completely open situation where you have a group but there's no structure to it and everyone's just loving and able to do whatever they want.
01:47:26.000There's no one person that's the leader.
01:47:29.000Human beings, everything sort of falls into that weird alpha male monkey category where there's one person that talks and everyone else listens.
01:48:02.000Contrary to the very nature of a cooperative and open group of humans, a community.
01:48:10.000And that's also the best way to control people, to ensure that this one person disseminates the rules, this one person gets to talk, and this one person keeps everybody under control.
01:49:19.000Like I was saying, keep everybody poor, keep everybody uneducated, and then convince them that if they don't do what we want them to do, they're going to burn in hell.
01:49:28.000Yeah, even better than poor, now they have a new thing.
01:50:03.000He's talking about exactly what we're talking about and how they control the masses and stuff.
01:50:08.000Man, that's a great speech in the beginning of this thing.
01:50:10.000But, you know, it's like keeping the mom and dad separate because they both have to work.
01:50:15.000You make it so hard for a normal, lower-income family to even be together so that you can disseminate information to each one of them exactly like you want to, and they don't have a lot of time together.
01:50:54.000Yeah, we need to have him on again to find out what that was all about.
01:50:57.000See, the foundation has never been needed.
01:51:00.000This is what's weird about it, because the Bitcoin itself is the protocol, so it's like, that's what's brilliant.
01:51:07.000The foundation was created as something that was supposed to kind of drive the development of it, but it's become a corporation, essentially.
01:51:16.000You know, it's got to add a lot of negative, but the people who are in charge of it now are even more, more so people are like, they're kind of crooks and shady and, but there's really no need for it.
01:51:28.000There's not like there's a Bitcoin company that people work for, you know, the thing is it's like more like a virus that was set into the world.
01:51:34.000And then just like the internet was, you know, there's not like the, they're an internet company that there's president of the internet who can decide like, That's the beautiful thing about the internet, isn't it?
01:52:04.000That's shitty enough already, but with the net neutrality thing they're trying to get rid of, then Time Warner can say, hey, Google, your shit's going to be real slow unless you pay us money.
01:52:20.000And so then they're going to start extorting money to go back into their own pocket to actually alter what sites and even blocking sites.
01:53:08.000There is no one in charge of it, and they know that.
01:53:11.000And the reality is, if Time Warner becomes that big of a deal, somebody will come out there and run their own wires and fucking set up their own fucking statewide Wi-Fi, and it'll be fine.
01:53:26.000But you know that, like, did you ever get into a discussion about Bitcoin about how you can...
01:53:30.000If I send you money, you can attach a message to it, or you can actually, like, attach a deed, or I could write a song, and it would be in the blockchain, copyrighted.
01:53:39.000But you can actually embed a message in the transaction, and that the first transaction ever done by the guy who made it had the, like, either Washington Post or, like, Wall Street Journal, the headline was, like...
01:53:54.000The government approves second bailout for banks.
01:53:57.000Like, that was encoded in the first transmission, because it was like they're saying, like, enough.
01:57:26.000See, like the mining thing, man, it's like some people think of it and they're like, oh, it's like people who want to just like make free money, which is not the way it works.
01:57:32.000It's like what it actually is, and this is the nerd part of me, like I also run a full node of Bitcoin at home, which means like I'm part of the network.
01:58:03.000Someone has to and is going to use this technology in the way that Bitcoin is and make, finally, a decentralized entertainment distribution platform.
01:58:16.000They've been good to me in different moments, but here's the reality.
01:58:19.000You make something that costs nothing to duplicate because it's digital, and they're taking 30% of it, plus a company like TuneCore, Like, jabs you and robs you to even get your shit on iTunes if you're just a new band, you know, who's like, how do I get my shit on iTunes?
01:58:34.000Somebody's gonna collect some money for them to just email your song over to iTunes in the correct format, and then iTunes takes 30%.
01:58:43.000If you got rid of that and you got it where I was like, say I gave you a David Bowie song.
01:58:48.000If there was a way to just have a proof of ownership and have a transaction fee like there is in Bitcoin, where I just gave you an album that would somehow pay David Bowie.
01:59:40.000Like Sony said, don't talk to us about MP3s until it's 30% of the market.
01:59:45.000And by the time it was 30% of the market, iTunes had iPods and was way to...
01:59:51.000But 30% seems like a lot of money, because it's not even like they're storing it on their website, and then you download it from their servers.
01:59:57.000Like, they need all the bandwidth, and so you're, you know, because your album is, you know, X amount of gigs, that's not what's going on.
02:00:24.000That's the way TuneCore or like Reverb Nation and all those things work, is you can get your stuff.
02:00:29.000I mean, that's essentially it, but I believe that it goes into the back end at iTunes.
02:00:33.000I think that a lot of those companies, like, if I don't pay TuneCore...
02:00:39.000After five years, my music will go off iTunes.
02:00:43.000So, like, they have the control over that, but I've also seen labels go directly to iTunes, not via those things, and go use the back end there.
02:02:02.000There are people that charge, that are services, that are people that were at one point worked for the Grammy organization and they have the email addresses of all the people that they know that vote.
02:02:13.000So there are people that will charge you like five grand to bombard these people with emails all year so that by the time they see the voting sheet, they're like, oh, that fucking person, I'll vote for that.
02:02:26.000Like, there's things like that, but...
02:02:28.000Besides that, dude, it's like the Grammys are a self-contained operation of the old media.
02:02:35.000It's like Clive Davis and all those people, and they're all like...
02:02:38.000A random band from nowhere who nobody's ever heard of is never going to win a Grammy unless they've got money behind them.
02:02:56.000It's not like the 50s where Muddy Waters puts out something and it goes straight to the top of the charts and all of a sudden race music becomes this big thing.
02:03:04.000It's all corporate, controlled by the 1%.
02:03:06.000It's controlled by the biocoms of the world who are putting it on the television, who are deciding who's going to win.
02:03:12.000Like Arcade Fire wins a fucking Grammy because they think that...
02:03:15.000That, like, you know, everyone feels like it's been too pop-oriented.
02:03:18.000So let's give one to Arcade Fire this year.
02:03:20.000And it's like, as much as I want to believe that there are, like, the fans are in any way involved in these kind of processes, they're totally not.
02:04:35.000I'm going to send you the new, you know, Kanye record or whatever.
02:04:38.000I'm going to send you the new Alicia Keys record.
02:04:40.000And these radio stations are going to fucking, you know, they're going to get, you know, they're not getting payola, but they're fucking getting free trips to Disneyland for their whole family and like five other people, you know, to fucking play like this record that so-and-so's invested in.
02:05:23.000I mean, I still play all those bands, but there's this whole underground country, underground roots, blues thing that was happening, and it was getting boxed into this Americana shit.
02:05:54.000I've now started producing a lot of other people and started working in the studio with them more as opposed to promoting them, which has been really good.
02:06:01.000But it was just a way of trying to promote all these really great bands that really just weren't getting any chance.
02:06:07.000But I still play all those bands on my radio show.
02:06:30.000Wherever I'm at, sometimes I've done it on an airplane when I'm flying, you know, just when I gotta get it in by the end of the week, so...
02:06:37.000Well, this thing is, I mean, we need other people here, you know, this is like a location to do it from, you know?
02:06:42.000But fucking, what a great location with the fucking wolf and predator and fucking lava lamps and fucking...
02:07:44.000I mean, I do know like one time I said the thing about...
02:07:47.000About the billboard, and I had evidence of this, and I'm not going to say what artist it was, because I'm not in the business of doing that, but there was this big-name artist who had this new record coming out, and his sponsor company bought 300,000 copies of it first week, so they would make sure that it went number one.
02:08:02.000And I said that on the radio, and my boss says, and he's told me I've gotten a lot of calls.
02:08:08.000They call him, and they say, he's saying this shit, and it's irresponsible because it's not true.
02:08:19.000They blackballed me a long time ago anyway, because I've always been that way, man.
02:08:23.000I'm to my disadvantage in a lot of ways, but like, If someone's a phony, I hate that more than anything in the world, man.
02:08:32.000There have been times in my life when I was a phony growing up, with girls and things.
02:08:38.000We try to get into that, but as you get older and as I've gotten older, there's so much insincerity, especially in the music business, that I have such a disdain for it.
02:08:49.000The way that the writers work, what's happened to country music is directly related to what we're talking about in corporate America.
02:09:02.000It's just gotten to where these corporations are in so much power and they have so much money that it's really hard for the little man to beat it.
02:09:11.000I see people who pretend to be for the little man But yet they're playing this fucking ball game over here and talking out of both sides of their mouth and it just kills me.
02:09:26.000But yeah, I definitely think that there are groups.
02:09:32.000I just found out about a group in Nashville, but there are groups much like the Bilderberg group where they're in music and in movies and things.
02:09:41.000I mean, I know everybody knows they kind of have that kind of thing, but But there are actual groups where they orchestrate kind of who they're going to lend their support to.
02:09:52.000I mean, they never played me on the radio.
02:09:54.000It's not like they're going to have a meeting and they say, we're going to purposely keep Shooter out.
02:10:00.000But I do know that they have meetings about...
02:10:04.000We're the studio heads and the local community and the Congress and city planners and developers and certain record labels, mostly independent.
02:10:14.000The independents have kind of chokeholded out the corporate ones a little bit in a weird way, especially in Nashville.
02:10:21.000And the songwriters and the radio people, and they have these retreats that they go on together.
02:10:46.000It's like, if you think that doesn't happen, then you are dumb, because...
02:10:49.000Of course these people want to keep their job.
02:10:52.000They want to keep the money they're making.
02:10:54.000So they'll do anything it takes to keep that position.
02:10:58.000Yeah, it's unfortunate, right, that people that are in that sort of a position, they're making a shitload of money, don't realize, like, man, this is kind of bad for the art form itself to do this.
02:11:09.000Like, the very art form that we need that we're selling.
02:11:52.000It's like the point of the movie a little bit is that, I mean, it's implied in that, especially when at the very end of the movie, Edward James Olmos' character, like, he's been leaving his origami all over the place, but he leaves the unicorn.
02:12:05.000But see, in the original one, I just watched the theatrical one for the first time.
02:12:26.000Yeah, because that's the only one you can buy.
02:12:27.000The minute it was available on DVD, I don't know about VHS, but the minute the DVDs came out, the director's cut saturated the market.
02:12:35.000So on Voodoo, I was trying to figure out a way when I was...
02:12:39.000Traveling on the road in a car to venue to venue.
02:12:43.000I was trying to figure out a way to...
02:12:44.000I don't have enough space on my fucking iPhone because the fucking iCloud and the pictures and all this shit and it's always full and I don't want to throw it against the fucking wall.
02:12:52.000But the Voodoo app lets me watch movies.
02:12:55.000So I was like, oh, I'm going to watch Blade Runner.
02:12:57.000And then I pulled it up and it was that version, which I had never seen.
02:13:00.000But then there was a final cut that was made about...
02:13:04.000Seven or eight years ago that came out.
02:13:06.000And that one has the deleted unicorn scene in it.
02:13:10.000And what that is is that I guess that Harrison Ford's character has some kind of like there's a unicorn scene.
02:13:21.000In his past, in his memory, he has a memory of a unicorn.
02:13:24.000There's a scene in the movie, in the final cut, where he shoots that chick that had the snake around her neck.
02:13:30.000When he shoots her, there's a shot of this unicorn because it reminded him of this thing and it's kind of like connecting the dots that he has this weird memory of a unicorn.
02:14:08.000But in the book, they run away together and she ends up dying and it's like a love story and it ends up not mattering if he is one or not because, you know, Well, in the real world that we live in right now, that seems like much more likely a possibility than it ever did when Blade Runner came out.
02:14:26.000Like back then, like the idea of a robot that looks exactly like a person, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, might as well be traveling to the moon, might as well be fucking, you know, Battlestar Galactica or something.
02:14:38.000When you see the artificial bodies that they're able to create now, like these robot faces that move and articulate just like a human face, like really similar.
02:14:48.000Some of those Japanese ones, they're so similar.
02:16:37.000They thought he was really there and he never told them.
02:16:38.000So they thought he really came to their fucking shit town where there was nothing to do.
02:16:42.000Like you know the little village and it was like this guy and like he said right now like I could go over there and they can have like a hologram thing set up in Japan and I could like literally walk in front of the cameras and I'd be in Japan and I'd be talking to motherfuckers and totally like help me Obi-Wan save me Obi-Wan or like the fucking Sith Lord guy appearing like talking about it but it doesn't even look like that he said that when it's in a normal room it looks like you can't tell the difference From a hologram.
02:17:07.000I will report to you on this after I go to it, after I go see this demonstration.
02:17:12.000Do you remember when they had that on television for CNN when they were covering the news and Wolf Blitzer would stand in the CNN hologram, the holodeck?
02:17:52.000It would be dope if he fucking appeared out of smoke.
02:17:55.000Yeah, they're saying a demonstration they gave that guy who was presenting an award and he was standing in the room and this whole family walked in the room and he was standing there and he talked to them and they were talking to him back and everything and then he just bust into flames and they were all freaked out because they thought he was real.
02:19:49.000So they had five clone bands, and they'd send them out on the road, and you would never know if it was the real band or not because they always had the hoods on and shit, but they would have five different bands they would just send out touring.
02:20:09.000You know, like, your reputation would be really damaged if they found out that you were actually in your living room and the shit fucked up.
02:24:10.000You know, I had no idea what to do with that when the guy said, fucking a burst of wind from Howard Stern's ass is what hit it.
02:24:16.000Like, you know, MSNBC, like, is all this trouble?
02:24:19.000Because, like, no one was paying attention while it went down for so long for a couple of minutes.
02:24:24.000And then they cut it and it was like, man, everyone got fired because it was like...
02:24:28.000I mean, not only did he get through, but they didn't even catch that he said Howard Stern's ass for a long time.
02:24:35.000Well, when you're doing those things, those remotes, you have an earpiece in, and a lot of times it's hard to understand what the fuck anybody's saying, and there's a bit of a delay between them saying it and you hearing it.
02:24:47.000But the guy sitting over there watching the fucking broadcast, or supposedly watching the broadcast when it goes down, and editing on the fly and all that, that guy should have been like...
02:25:48.000But especially with these legacy media places like that, like news, like we're getting someone who's live on the scene and like, that's like, those are targets for people fucking with people.
02:26:15.000Yeah, we're in weird times when it comes to that.
02:26:17.000We're also in weird times when it comes to those things being relevant at all, because at a certain point in time, they're realizing that more people are paying attention to online sources than they are.
02:26:36.000I will say, like, if I'm cruising the channels and I'm home and, like, the 5, 6 o'clock news is on, I'll turn it on because locally to LA, like, if there's anything going on, I'll kind of be interested in that.
02:26:46.000But otherwise, like, who watches the news on, like, Channel 2?
02:27:51.000If I hear something's going on or if I see something, it's like the culmination of all the people I follow kind of provide the correct information.
02:28:08.000It's so difficult to figure out what's right and what's wrong.
02:28:12.000And then when you have disinformation thrown into the mix, I mean...
02:28:16.000It's been proven that government organizations will, when something bad goes down, they'll throw a bunch of wacky shit into the news as well to sort of counterbalance.
02:28:26.000There's a lot of people out there that believe that a lot of the conspiracy theorists that say the most ridiculous shit, that they're being hired to say ridiculous shit because it Makes all conspiracies sound silly.
02:28:47.000Manly P. Hall, famous writer, wrote a lot of books about a lot of conspiracy type things, and he was a straight-up disinformation agent for the Masons.
02:30:18.000Yeah, but he's, man, that story, that dude is very fascinating because he is the real life, like, dude.
02:30:25.000I mean, in my Black Ribbon's record, the Stephen King character gets killed and everything in the end.
02:30:29.000I mean, he's the real life character of that.
02:30:30.000Like, this guy was out there, and his radio show was awesome, and he was just, like, telling you, like, the first person talking about the Bilderberg group, the first person talking about all these people, and just laying it out there no matter what, who it pissed off, and...
02:30:45.000Eventually it pissed off enough people to get him killed, but he's very fascinating.
02:30:50.000In the hour of the time, I wanted to take the first episode of it and print it on a 12-inch vinyl, because it's just long enough.
02:30:56.000I wanted to put music under it and make a record on a record label, and I was trying to get the family to let me do that.
02:31:03.000They were interested, but then they kind of disappeared on me.
02:31:05.000Have you ever looked into William Cooper debunked?
02:31:11.000But, I mean, see, to me, William Cooper, I mean, obviously, he was hitting on some pretty harsh things if he was killed by the United States government.
02:31:20.000Or maybe he owed a lot of taxes and he got in a shootout with the federal marshals who came to arrest him.
02:31:35.000He's very collected, he's very smart, very educated.
02:31:40.000It'd be one thing if he was full of shit, but he's not.
02:31:45.000If you listen to his show, he was very wise to things, and he was saying a lot of shit that would piss a lot of people off, and I know for a fact a lot of it is true.
02:31:53.000I read his book, and halfway into the book I was like, bitch!
02:31:59.000Yeah, there was some wacky shit in there.
02:32:01.000If you go to Rational Wiki, he believed that UFO people were controlling the world, that UFO technology had been used in Vietnam.
02:32:11.000He became one of the stars in the UFO lecture circuit, writing books that alleged that space aliens were part of the New World Order.
02:32:18.000He later believed that he had been tricked into believing in aliens, and it was all part of an Illuminati plot, including the JFK assassination and the fake moon landings.
02:32:28.000You know about the Kubrick moon landing thing, right?
02:32:33.000There's a theory that the US government wanted, the technology that he developed during Dr. Strangelove and he used in 2001 for the monkeys and the backgrounds and the way he shot that stuff.
02:32:46.000That they came to him to fake the moon landing.
02:32:51.000And they said they would give him unlimited access to NASA and everything for 2001 and fund every film forever.
02:32:59.000And so supposedly he was hinting at a lot of it in 2001 and in Eyes Wide Shut, especially in Eyes Wide Shut, that he was hinting to what he'd done Well, there's documentaries that show all the secret symbolism that he put into The Shining.
02:33:14.000That movie's terrible because, see, I had studied all that shit, man, and it's so true.
02:33:19.000And that movie was like, they were interviewing the craziest people on the planet Earth with no frame of reference to what they were talking about.
02:33:28.000And when you watch that movie, it's like...
02:35:21.000That's crazy that a president of the United States would say...
02:35:26.000I saw some things on television during my time in Washington that make me wonder if he wasn't ahead of his time, specifically talking about a guy claiming that the moon landings were fake.
02:35:37.000See, I could totally buy it, too, because of the fact that, especially then, where technology is.
02:36:06.000You know, you're out there in space, you're not protected by the environment, you're not protected by the atmosphere, so there's no protection from, like, micrometeors, asteroidal impacts, like, all the different things.
02:36:17.000Like, when you see shooting stars, those are fucking rocks that were in space that made their way down to Earth, but they get eaten up in the atmosphere, and they burn out.
02:36:26.000Yeah, I mean, the radiation is the big one.
02:36:29.000I think that we're going to know, and I'll tell you when we're going to know, is these independent contractors are trying to get to the moon, Google being one of them.
02:36:38.000When someone else besides the government goes to the moon, I don't mean the Russian government at the same time.
02:36:45.000Like, if someone independent goes to the moon and it looks way different than it did when they did it in the 60s, you know?
02:36:51.000And it's like, oh, like, really, don't float when we walk here.
02:36:57.000You know, there's a lot of fucking things about that.
02:37:00.000There's, you know, on that one website with the Kubrick thing, they, like, do this contrast thing where it kind of compares the 2001 monkey scenes to the...
02:37:08.000Yeah, well, they were comparing a style of filming, I think it was called front screen projection.
02:37:43.000I think, I don't know if this is, I believed in it wholeheartedly for a long time.
02:37:48.000And this Reality Sandwich article shows the use of this front screen projection method and how it mimics, I think that's what it's called, How it mimics what the shots looked like from the moon landings.
02:38:01.000The real issue with the moon landings is how few...
02:38:04.000If you stop and think about between 1969 and 1972, that that's when all these took place, and that no one has been more than 400 miles above the Earth's surface since then.
02:38:18.000That's what seems so ridiculous to me.
02:38:21.000Not only that, how about when Neil Armstrong, there's a 20th anniversary of the moon landing for NASA, and he gives a speech, or 25th anniversary I think it was, yeah, that's what it was, and he gives this speech at the White House,
02:38:38.000and his words were, there are great ideas, undiscovered breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth's protective layers.
02:38:49.000He's speaking to America's honor students, like all the high school students that get the best grades in science and math and all these different things, and they're all there listening to this guy who's the first man on the moon talk, and this is the thing he says.
02:39:03.000There are great ideas, undiscovered breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth-protective layers.
02:39:12.000Between him and Clinton, it's almost like if the moon landings were real, they're clearly fucking with everybody.
02:39:19.000They're just begging for people to read into it.
02:39:22.000But if it wasn't real, it's almost poetic how they're dropping these truths.
02:39:28.000Yeah, that was how, with Kubrick, they said that in a lot of the films, he was dropping the guilt of the fact that he lied, that he did this thing, and that he was trying to admit it in a lot of the films.
02:39:43.000It is pretty crazy that the last time people went was 1972. Yeah, and we haven't even come fucking close since then.
02:39:49.000Not only have we not come close, we've never gone further than 400 miles.
02:39:53.000That's the thing about every single space shuttle mission, every space station mission, everything is inside of 400 miles from the Earth's surface, except the Apollo missions.
02:40:03.000All of those were 260,000 miles and back.
02:41:30.000And, you know, as time goes on, like, these things do get exposed.
02:41:34.000That would be a motherfucker of a mindfuck, though, if they did find out that it really was all bullshit, that no one did land on the moon.
02:41:42.000Yeah, like, what if everything was true?
02:41:47.000All the conspiracy shit was true, you know what I mean?
02:41:49.000Like, you just start finding that shit out.
02:41:51.000I mean, look, man, if, what's his name?
02:42:15.000There was a moon rock that was given to the Dutch Prime Minister by the Apollo 11 astronauts.
02:42:21.000And once they examined it, like many, many years later, they were doing it for, I believe it was for an insurance investigation, and it was actually just petrified wood.
02:42:57.000I don't know if the actual rock was handed to them by Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, but it was supposedly a rock that was given to the Dutch Prime Minister from the Apollo 11 astronauts in 1969 and it was fake.
02:43:27.000Okay, it says, The Rock was given to William Dries, a former Dutch leader, during a global tour by Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins, and Buzz Aldrin, following their moon mission.
02:43:41.000The rock was then donated to a museum after the Dutch Prime Minister's death in 1988. And so then after that, I guess they decided to test it.
02:43:53.000And when they tested it, they found out that it was actually just petrified wood.
02:44:33.000If you and I walked on the moon together, and it was just the two of us, and we came back and we're the only two humans that walked on the fucking moon, first of all, wouldn't you think that we would look around and be like, man, look at this shit.
02:44:44.000I mean, you don't think we would be like, la la la, whatever, it's the moon, there's another place.
02:44:48.000So, by the time you get to this, somebody hands you a fucking piece of wood, this petrified wood, and tells you, hey, this is from your moon trip.
02:44:56.000First of all, neither one of you picked it up and brought it back, because you know that.
02:44:59.000Second of all, wouldn't you think we would know that it's not, especially if Our whole life was meant to get to this point.
02:45:07.000And somebody hands you this rock that you're supposed to give to someone that is a moon rock.
02:45:35.000Well, they definitely got moon rocks that came from Asteroidal Impacts.
02:45:39.000And that was actually one of the big points of contention because Werner von Braun, who was a Nazi, a straight up Nazi, ladies and gentlemen, that's a real moon rock?
02:46:08.000Before the actual moon landings took place, collecting asteroids.
02:46:14.000They had gone to Antarctica because Antarctica is one of the places where they could be assured that a lot of the asteroids that had landed there, for whatever reason they knew, were from the moon themselves.
02:46:26.000So they collected a lot of these to examine them.
02:48:26.000Like, I was packing, like, Sunday night, me and my wife were literally packing all the pre-orders of, like, our vinyl that we did in boxes and shipping them and shit.
02:48:33.000And we've set up a warehouse and we've done all this shit.
02:48:36.000So, like, I'm stressed out all the fucking time.
02:48:57.000It's like a free first-person shooter game online only that me and my manager and buddies, we go in there and play and kill each other and do that kind of stuff.
02:50:15.000Yeah, if you go through something in public and everything is subject to other people's criticisms and evaluations, with or without any information whatsoever, and then you watch it all play out, you're like, what?
02:51:24.000Yeah, they like to be assholes, you know, and just say shit.
02:51:26.000Oh yeah, and just to fuck with you, to see if they can get a rise out of you, just to get you to react, just so that they know that, you know, Shooter Jennings is a real person on the other end of that.
02:51:35.000Yeah, that's why I like to keep it where they think I'm not real.
02:51:41.000No, you know, it's funny, like, Ricky Rackman is a buddy of mine, and he was telling me that, he's like, it's funny that people write you nice shit all day long and you never replied to it, but like, one guy says something shitty to you.
02:52:25.000Actually, this is kind of when I backed off of Twitter.
02:52:27.000I tweeted something about John Mayer being a giant douche because I thought that he all of a sudden was all Hollywood and he was all played out of Hollywood and then all of a sudden he buys this place in Montana and he got a poncho and starts growing his hair out and wearing a cowboy hat and doing all that shit.
02:54:30.000The same type of girls that go on ratting them out and saying these crazy things about them, those are also the same type of girls that would be annoying if you were John Mayer and you were dating that girl, right?
02:54:49.000And I really didn't like his version of Free Fall On, which was all these 12-year-old kids think John Mayer wrote this song.
02:54:56.000And so I already had issues, and I'm sure that there are people that have the same kind of issues with me, but it is kind of a well-known fact that John Mayer is a douchebag.
02:55:05.000I mean, I can guarantee that it's kind of not news to say.
02:56:31.000Because the way Great Woods works is...
02:56:34.000There's a covered area, and then there's a back area that's like a lawn.
02:56:39.000And all the security people were assigned to, you know, stop people from bringing in booze, like they'd bring in bottles of wine and stuff like that, bottles of whiskey, and also to keep order, like when shit would go haywire.
02:56:54.000Well, the lawn, the thing about the lawn was there was no assigned seating.
02:56:57.000So everybody just sat wherever they wanted to on the lawn.
02:57:39.000There was fights breaking out, and fucking bottles were flying, and fire, and it was like, this is, what was I getting paid, like 10 bucks an hour or something stupid back then?
02:58:12.000Like, it's his own version of an MP3 player, right?
02:58:15.000Yeah, I don't know how you can jump in that game.
02:58:17.000That seems to me like a, it always seems like a poor business decision to try, because if he's not making a phone, you're not gonna beat the iPod.
02:58:34.000I mean, look, I think it's awesome technology that he's got some shit where it's like the audio quality is way better, but I mean, you're jumping in.