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00:07:37.000If you did that in a movie, if you planned out the worst intro music for a podcast in a movie, you'd fucking...
00:07:42.000It sounded like you just took a random part out of a Primus.
00:07:46.000It sounded like a snippet from a Primus song, where it would have made sense in the whole picture, but just the clip, you were like, it doesn't make sense.
00:07:53.000Yeah, it's a kind of funny story that wound up getting resolved, but Jamie called me the other day to tell me that one of my videos got taken down from the internet because someone used my words, like my voice, in a song, and then copyrighted it.
00:08:56.000It's combining a bunch of rants with all this video of war stuff and stuff about U.S. history and how crazy the military-industrial complex is.
00:09:05.000And the beginning of it is this rant that this guy took and put on his song.
00:10:28.000He bought pepsispice.com before they did, and then he started putting up a daily blog about how he's eating nothing but Pepsi Spice, and his health was rapidly deteriorating.
00:10:40.000In these hysterical, cataclysmic ways.
00:11:15.000I remember I had open sores everywhere and I was really good at Photoshop back then so no one even knew that there was fake Photoshop as much.
00:11:22.000So I had pictures of me with these big bloody things.
00:11:25.000I was hanging out with Lindsay Lohan snorting Mushrooms.
00:11:28.000It was called Mocaine, where we would crush up mushrooms and snort.
00:15:03.000Yeah, this is the best shape I've ever been in, which isn't saying much.
00:15:07.000But, I mean, for years, dude, for years, like, my lifestyle was get completely shit-faced four or five nights a week, go home, and I would do this night after night.
00:15:18.000Get, like, a double meat, cheesesteak, Doritos, chocolate cake, and a soda, and literally lay in my bed wasted eating it and just pass out.
00:15:25.000I would do that night after night after night.
00:15:29.000You know, it was just, I think after a while, you know, I dabbled in the drugs here and there, you know, I think after a while, just kind of a little bit, a little bit, it catches up, man.
00:15:38.000I'll try some Jameson since it's got a bunch of signatures on it.
00:16:22.000And then somebody would be like, hey, you know, though, I heard so-and-so might be having a little thing.
00:16:28.000Do you want to just go over real quick and just check out what's happening?
00:16:32.000You know, across the way at the such-and-such bar?
00:16:36.000And you'd go over, and the next thing you know, dude, it's 5 a.m., and there's been, you know, blow and whiskey, and you're wasted, and you're fucking a girl, and it's the greatest, man!
00:17:29.000And Maren did a story last night, and him and I talked again about the Kinnison days, about doing blow with Kinnison to the point where he heard voices in his head for a year.
00:18:42.000I never lived in the city, so I didn't get that thing out of New York, because when I first moved to New York, I needed a car, because I was doing road gigs, and the only way I could make a living was to do the road.
00:18:52.000I couldn't do the whole 15 shows in a night, like do a seven-minute spot here, and then add up the $10 whatever the fuck you would get from each set, because a lot of, like, Attell used to do that.
00:19:03.000He would do 10, 15 sets a night, all these little seven-minute sets.
00:20:46.000Rachel Feinstein, who's one of my close friends, and a really funny comic, and obviously Jewish, I brought her out one night with one of the Irish guys we used to live next door to.
00:20:54.000And I'm like, you're going to love this guy.
00:22:51.000And this guy went over there, and because of these people, he gave this really fucked up, inaccurate, unscientific assessment of certain famous sites where fucking hundreds of thousands of people documented were murdered.
00:25:54.00024th of April, 1915. Now, do you think the other ones don't get mentioned, like this one, for instance, because they are so small in size compared to the number of deaths with the Jewish Holocaust?
00:26:24.000I can't imagine how it could ever be overshadowed.
00:26:26.000I'm ashamed that I learned about it while I was talking to somebody.
00:26:31.000Yeah, well, that's why I asked the question, because it's like, I can't justify in my head how something like that would get overshadowed, other than, I guess, maybe this other one was so much bigger.
00:29:10.000There's something to Michael Jackson's voice when you listen to the way he would sing that, fuck man, that doesn't sound like any guy I've ever heard.
00:31:24.000I remember seeing like this guy and seeing Michael Jackson how brilliant he was but how odd it was and how he always had like these amusement park rides at his house and he invited little kids over and I'm like what was wrong?
00:31:38.000It's beautiful that the guy wanted to help kids.
00:31:40.000It's beautiful that the guy always worked with these people that were sick and these kids that were dying.
00:32:17.000I do think it is good, but even with other celebrities that attempted to keep the kid out of the spotlight, like Eminem doesn't, aside from talking about her, doesn't put his daughter out there.
00:35:01.000And apparently it was from those Pirates of the Caribbean movies.
00:35:04.000From there on out, there's no more going to restaurants.
00:35:07.000Dude, when Chappelle came back from Africa, when he went...
00:35:12.000He ran off from the TV show and everything.
00:35:14.000When he came back, he went on this tour, and I toured with him.
00:35:19.000And I know Dave isn't Johnny Depp, but he's pretty fucking famous.
00:35:26.000It was crazy, man, because we were doing these shows, and I was opening for him for like two weeks, and he'd literally just be like, want to go to the mall, man?
00:36:29.000The concierge at the hotel had to literally hold the people back so we could get onto the elevator.
00:36:36.000And as the doors were shutting, a guy got around the concierge and ran up and literally put his phone almost against Chappelle's face and goes, Say something funny.
00:38:26.000So I was talking to these two girls after one of the shows in Cleveland, and I'm like, come back to the hotel, and they're being wishy-washy.
00:39:08.000You're going to get famous one of these days.
00:39:10.000Ten years from now, that bitch will be on hard copy.
00:39:15.000Joe DeRosa told me to suck his dick in Cleveland once!
00:39:19.000Well, the reality is, even if that didn't happen, there's going to be a girl, if you get famous, that just remembers a story that never happened at all about Joe DeRosa telling her to suck your cock.
00:42:48.000I didn't really lift weights until I started doing jiu-jitsu.
00:42:51.000And I started doing jiu-jitsu in 96. So that was when I started lifting weights, and I started hanging out with Eddie Bravo, my good friend Eddie Bravo, my best friend, like around 96. Yeah.
00:43:20.000To your body keeps you from getting injured.
00:45:52.000It can help you though if you're looking for something to do to give you some physical exercise and also it gives you a kind of understanding of your body and fear.
00:46:03.000I wish I had been pushed in that direction at a young age because I'm too old for it now.
00:47:09.000You're showing me a little tiny, like, quarter size.
00:47:11.000You know, I remember tripping for, like, 11, 12 hours on acid, like, stuff like that.
00:47:15.000Well, I don't have any experience with acid, but I do have experience with mushrooms, and my experience is that there's a big difference between, like, a couple caps and stems and a fucking handful.
00:47:34.000That's when you just go, it just obliterates your ego.
00:47:38.000And you go just deep into the realm of perception and of understanding your position in this great thing that you see in front of you and how much your position in this great thing, this great thing being the entire universe itself,
00:47:55.000how much of your position is distorted by your own ability To recognize your surroundings and your need to survive.
00:48:02.000And then your ego, which comes into place and wants you to get laid, wants you to be fed, wants you to stay alive and competitive.
00:48:08.000Like all those variables, they fuck with your ability to understand the true nature of reality.
00:48:15.000And sometimes a real ego obliterating experience is what you need just to kind of put it in place.
00:48:20.000See, the problem is now for me, I had some brushes with that.
00:48:26.000In my time that I would do these heavier psychedelics.
00:48:31.000But my problem is now is that my anxiety is such an issue that I wouldn't be able to handle it.
00:48:45.000I'm a lethargic guy, so I've always been more of a fan of stimulants than barbiturates and depressants, which is what eventually pulled me away from marijuana, because my problem with marijuana is I'll smoke it, and I go deep into my head, and it's bad.
00:49:02.000If I had smoked any weed before I came in here today, I would be panicking right now.
00:50:06.000Thank you, and I honestly feel the same way about you, and not because I've known you from TV for longer than we've known each other personally.
00:50:15.000I feel like we're part of a fraternity, and not just because of comedy, but it's a little more specified for us, I think, because we're part of the ONA camp.
00:51:36.000And it's the kind of thing where if something does go wrong, I have a very hard time just leaving it behind me and going, it was a bad day at work, dude.
00:52:47.000You know, I don't want anyone to ever think that I ever take that for granted because that would drive me fucking crazy.
00:52:51.000If I went to see someone and I knew they didn't give a shit and they took it for granted, that's one of the worst things a performer can ever do with their audience.
00:53:54.000It's a lot of times just a perception issue, like how you deal with things.
00:53:58.000I had a friend that came up to me once.
00:54:01.000We were in Vegas, and I brought him to some fights, and after the fights, It gets pretty fucking crazy.
00:54:10.000There's 18,000 people there, and you try to wake your way through the casino, good luck.
00:54:14.000You're going to get stopped every five seconds.
00:54:16.000And he was like, does it get annoying?
00:54:17.000I go, well, there's certain times where I have things that I have to do, where I have to leave, like I have to go to a show, or I have to meet someone for dinner.
00:54:24.000I mean, I have to be there by X amount of time.
00:55:37.000Yeah, and I've seen him do it, and I've always done it.
00:55:40.000If there are fucking two people in the audience that wanted to see me, And it was the shittiest show of all time because there were 98 that didn't give a fuck about who I was and heckling or whatever.
00:55:52.000I spent time with those two guys and talked to them.
00:56:45.000I think everybody, many comics do that, but I think, again, what was always special to me about, or one of the things that was always special to me about being part of that ONA fraternity was that those comics all did that.
00:58:20.000I always said when you went on ONA and it was a packed room, you know, when you walked in and it was DiPaolo, Bobby, you know, or Burr and Patrice or whoever, when it was a packed room on ONA, I always said it was like getting dropped into the, it was like in Raiders of the Lost Ark when he hits the ground in that fucking snake pit.
00:58:39.000And it's just like, you better like have your torch up and be ready because they are coming at you from every fucking direction.
00:58:54.000You know, it's like exciting to be in that room with Voss and Norton and everybody's like, everyone's, you know, Norton says something funny and Voss will say something funny and everybody's like chiming in and laughing and it's just, it's so exciting.
00:59:10.000Hardest times I've ever laughed in my life, and I remember when I would have stints where I would quit drinking for a while, and I'd say like, how the fuck am I going to have fun if I'm not going out drinking?
00:59:38.000Like, literally crying, laughing, like, until you couldn't breathe.
00:59:42.000You know, so it's like, I was like, okay, it's possible.
00:59:45.000It's possible to have sober fun, obviously.
00:59:47.000Well, hanging out with comedians, I mean, that's the one thing, me and Stan Hope were talking once, and he said, I could quit comedy, but I could never quit hanging out with comics.
01:00:21.000He goes, but I don't want to stop hanging out with comedians.
01:00:23.000Because it's like, I think a guy like Stanhope also, you get to a point where you realize, I mean, yeah, it's fun to do shows, and yeah, but nothing's going to change.
01:01:21.000You know, that you don't even necessarily really mean.
01:01:23.000But especially when a bunch of comics are getting together and they're vibing off of each other, there's that thing that we do where I'll try to say something.
01:01:30.000Like, Tony, the other day, what the fuck did he say about Joan Rivers when Joan Rivers died?
01:02:18.000Yeah, like Ari and I were talking last night, we went to Cantor's Deli late after his thing, and we were driving home, and He was talking about how he thinks it's good to interact with regular people.
01:02:29.000Because he goes, I don't talk to anybody that's a comedian, and I think I'm not getting a balanced perspective.
01:02:34.000And he was like, you know, you do this sports commentary stuff where, like, you'll go a whole weekend where you don't do stand-up, and you talk to, like, athletes, and you talk to, like, news people and stuff like that.
01:03:23.000And they were saying it's an apparent suicide.
01:03:25.000They found him with the belt around his neck.
01:03:26.000And I was like, Pete, do you think it was a suicide or do you think he was jacking his neck with the belt around his neck?
01:03:34.000And we just started laughing, going, apparent suicide always sounds way better in a newspaper than definitely was jerking off with a belt around his neck.
01:04:06.000And if I was related to him, I probably wouldn't want to hear a joke about it right now.
01:04:10.000But my point is, sometimes you're hanging out with comics and you can let those little thoughts out with them.
01:04:19.000That I think a lot of people, a lot of other comments, if I was on 9 out of 10 other podcasts right now, I wouldn't have felt comfortable sharing that.
01:04:26.000But see, you shared the crazy Joan Rivers joke, right?
01:04:30.000And then I share that back, and it's like, here we are.
01:04:33.000We're in the fucking ninth ring together.
01:04:35.000And Joan Rivers or Robin Williams, I think, would understand why those jokes were funny.
01:04:40.000I don't have the right to say this guy's name because I wasn't there when it happened, but a very famous comedian came over to a table of comics at the cellar.
01:04:50.000And right after Robin Williams died and went, he was a joke thief, right?
01:08:12.000I do think there's a gray area, and the gray area was where I was trying to exist, because I didn't like what people were saying about a friend of mine on there, so I was trying to defend him.
01:13:08.000Well, you know, when someone says something like that to you, it alleviates any responsibility you have for continuing to communicate with them.
01:13:17.000Some people will do that, and they'll expect you to fire back at them, and they'll do it wanting you to fire back on them.
01:13:23.000They want you to engage, and that's where indifference comes in.
01:13:26.000This isn't indifference necessarily, because we're kind of discussing it, but it's important to recognize what you want to invest your energy in.
01:14:26.000I don't want people like that behind me in any way in any fucking way well, you know Andy kendler is a very progressive guy very smart guy and He You know, if he met Anthony and he had a conversation with him, maybe they would have a difference of opinion.
01:14:51.000Anthony Kumi's situation, for folks who don't know, Anthony from Opie and Anthony was fired because he was in a situation, another situation line, situation.
01:15:28.000But you can explain yourself way better on a radio show when you're going back and forth with people and you cite statistics and facts about the African American community.
01:16:57.000Maybe he'll apologize or reword things or whatever.
01:17:01.000Also, too, I think if you're going to be somebody that complains about the problems in a community, you need to address those problems constructively and try to help offer solutions, not just yell From a hilltop about how fucked up it is and how you're pissed off about it.
01:18:11.000Did you see a transcript or did you hear it?
01:18:13.000There was part of a transcript of some stuff he said, but...
01:18:19.000I found online, because I was just kind of following the situation, that he had gone on basically a white nationalist podcast or radio show or something.
01:19:04.000So, anyway, so when I saw that, I was like...
01:19:10.000Saw some of Anthony's quotes from the show.
01:19:13.000I was like this is this is getting fucked up So do you think he just went off the deep end because he was angry?
01:19:19.000He was trying to publicize the whole situation or do you think he's really racist like what's your take on it?
01:19:25.000You know probably as good as I know him when it first happened and I'm gonna I'm putting this disclaimer out before I say anything I I am fully aware of the hellfire that I might face for not just saying I'm with the guy on this stuff.
01:19:59.000When it first happened I was like this is really fucking unfortunate and I want to believe that my friend fucked up and I want to believe that my friend is is gonna redeem himself from this and the further it went down the road and finally for me the last final straw was the shit he was tweeting about the Ferguson situation I was just like,
01:20:59.000This is beyond political differences to me.
01:21:03.000It's like once it starts getting into racial stuff, and I have to start thinking about what does it say to my black friends if I still hang out with a certain person, You know, it's a real fucking tight spot at that point.
01:21:20.000And I also didn't agree with the whole thing where everybody was really on this, like, cancel your subscriptions thing.
01:22:11.000But it doesn't mean it comes without consequences.
01:22:14.000It works like a giant candy dish at your doctor's office.
01:22:17.000It's there for the taking, but if you don't handle it carefully or use it with any responsibility, you're going to get sick and fuck yourself up a little bit.
01:22:27.000There are repercussions for free speech.
01:22:30.000Free speech just means you're allowed to say it.
01:22:32.000It doesn't mean nothing bad can happen afterwards.
01:22:36.000So when people were talking about, like, I can't believe that they fired him, it's like...
01:22:42.000Well, whether you agree with him getting fired or not, you can't believe that they fired him.
01:22:47.000If you had a pizza shop, and one of your top pizza makers was across the street saying that stuff, and your customers could hear him, you'd be like, we hate this fucking guy away from the pizza shop right now.
01:22:59.000So I don't see how SiriusXM is any different.
01:23:01.000Now, again, whether you agree with him getting fired or not is a different story, but to say we can't understand why he got fired, I just think it's such a closed-minded, one-sided way of looking at it.
01:23:14.000I think it was approached with zero gray area.
01:23:19.000Well, on one hand, I kind of appreciate their loyalty.
01:23:24.000That they want to stick up for Anthony and they want to do that.
01:23:28.000But there are real issues when you start discussing race that you have to take into consideration.
01:24:38.000I grew up with a lot of poor white people that were insane.
01:24:40.000They're just as goddamn dangerous as anybody.
01:24:43.000There's nobody that's less dangerous when it comes to poverty and crime.
01:24:47.000It's like you get poverty and crime and bad scenarios and children potential that's growing up in this really distorted and fucked up way, you're gonna get crazy people.
01:25:03.000People who grow up in terrible environments, it's very difficult to rise above and you can't just say it's a black thing or a white thing.
01:25:12.000And just because it's in the black community more than it's in the white community, Look, man, you gotta take into consideration that 150 years ago, there was slavery, okay?
01:25:22.000And the great-grandchildren of those slaves are what you're dealing with today.
01:25:27.000And I'm not a fan of reparations or any of those ideas that a lot of people banner back and forth, but I am a fan of what I would call social or civil engineering.
01:25:37.000Social engineering is probably not a bad idea to try to rejuvenate impoverished communities that Are predominantly one race.
01:25:46.000I mean, it seems to me that those places are a trap.
01:25:48.000And if you're born in those places, whether it's poor, white, Irish people that are fucking criminals and meth heads, or whether it's black people that you grow up and both your parents are in jail, you're being raised by your grandmother who sells crack.
01:26:00.000These are terrible environments that people are coming out of, and they're very commonplace.
01:26:57.000It's impossible to get everybody on board.
01:26:59.000If we had a community and our community was 20 people and there was one guy who had no fucking money and he was doing a terrible job raising his kids and he was on drugs all the time and his kids were left alone, we would take that kid in.
01:27:15.000But we can't when there's a million kids like that.
01:27:18.000And then those kids grow up and they become adults and they were ignored and there's no love and there's just this disastrous circumstance that they're growing up in.
01:27:27.000I don't believe that it's a color issue.
01:27:30.000I believe it's an environmental issue.
01:27:32.000I think it's a genetic issue in that the genetics of the people that were in these fucked up environments, they're raising more people that are in these fucked up environments.
01:27:40.000It's epigenetics, learning from your environment, that passes on to the next generation.
01:28:03.000And they have good friends in England that had to abandon their home because gypsies moved into a park next to their house.
01:28:10.000And when they have these weird laws over there, when these gypsies show up, you know, they're not all bad, I'm sure, but these particular gypsies that moved next to them were bad.
01:28:18.000They started robbing the neighborhood.
01:28:19.000They started leaving their garbage everywhere.
01:28:21.000They would dig holes and shit in them.
01:28:38.000And there were white people that were completely fucking out of control.
01:28:41.000But if you took those same white people, raised them in a nice neighborhood, raised them in Studio City, put them in a nice suit, and have them walk into their BMW, no one would blink an eye.
01:30:57.000Two days later, Anthony was like, I'm starting my own show.
01:31:00.000And for a week, two weeks, those subscription cancellations were coming in.
01:31:05.000So it never, to me, once came across as, we're doing this now as a walkout, as a strike, and if you guys do what we think is the right thing, we'll bring him back.
01:31:15.000It struck me very immediately as, like, he's out the door.
01:31:36.000But I think for them, I can totally understand why they wanted a boycott.
01:31:40.000Because I think for them, that was the only way to voice their opinion in a way where the company would be forced to listen.
01:31:45.000If the company had 50,000 people cancel their subscriptions because Anthony Cumia got fired, and then everybody said, holy shit, we just lost X amount of revenue, can we get Anthony to apologize and bring him back?
01:33:46.000This is how I, you know, I feel like this about the Zimmerman case, too.
01:33:49.000You know, everybody was like, oh, you know, this is a clear-cut case, that guy was a piece of shit, and, you know, George Zimmerman's an awful person, and that kid, you know, he should have been...
01:33:57.000Or then there's other people that said, that kid was a punk, he was beating him up, and he should have shot him.
01:34:02.000My take was always like, what would have happened if someone was cooler and they talked to that kid?
01:34:09.000What would have happened with someone who understands people better?
01:34:12.000I mean, what if the whole scenario had played out where it was a dude who's really good at communicating with people and very respectful and said to the kid, how you doing today, my brother?
01:34:46.000I was open-minded to the point of going, I understand if...
01:34:51.000that the guy had his suspicions raised or whatever but then when you listen to those cell phone calls and he's like chasing the guy around the neighborhood it was so painfully obvious to me that here's a guy that just wants to be a hero here's a wannabe cop that wants to be a hero and shit got out of hand he bit off more than he could chew he got his fucking ass kicked by a kid and he ended up killing somebody over it you know and like somehow slid through that self-defense loophole Because,
01:35:33.000The defenders of the cop, all they were talking about was the guy, you know, shoving the guy in the convenience store and stealing the cigar or whatever it was.
01:35:51.000So, now regardless of this weird phantom gunfire shot that happened when the cop was in the car, whatever weird fucking altercation thing happened there, whether it was that dude's fault or the cop, whatever.
01:36:03.000Regardless of any of that, the guy is getting chased, the cop is chasing him, if he's got his fucking hands up, You're a cop, dude.
01:36:16.000Well, the guy who was the cop that shot him was also a guy that was a part of another band of cops that was so fucked up, they had so many complaints about them, that they disbanded the whole department.
01:36:36.000Unless you don't want to talk about this anymore, but like, you know, again, with the Cumia thing, you know, look, at the end of the day with Anthony, and this is why when I saw the Ferguson tweets, I was like, that's it, I can't...
01:39:13.000And after that, I started seeing all the other stuff.
01:39:18.000And that's when I started to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:39:22.000And I'll be honest, man, what really bummed me out one day was he knew I was getting a lot of shit online because his name was in the tweets.
01:39:31.000And he never once told these people to leave me the fuck alone.
01:40:09.000Because not only did he not help get some of the fucking heat off of me, and there was a lot of it, when he finally did address me on Twitter, As people like Colin Quinn and...
01:41:12.000I guess anger about the situation is, when you're sitting at your aunt's funeral, who was like a second mother to you, and your phone keeps buzzing because you're getting tweets like, you're a talentless, selfish, shitbag cunt, stick up for cumia.
01:41:24.000Okay, well you need to take those fucking at replies off your fucking notifications.
01:41:28.000You don't have your phone buzz when people tweet you.
01:42:02.000When he knew there was bullshit going on online, then he calls me out in front of everybody, like, you're on the spot, douche, let's go dance, are you coming on or not?
01:42:11.000And I responded, you know I'm 10% black, right?
01:42:15.000Because I thought that was fucking funny, and nothing.
01:43:24.000Sometimes, you know, sometimes people are busy, man.
01:43:27.000And when he said fuckface or whatever he said, like, hey, fuckface, are you gonna do my show or whatever he said, do you think maybe he was just like, hey, fuckface, what are you gonna do my show?
01:43:35.000Yeah, that sounds like a text I might get from Brian.
01:43:37.000Yeah, because it seems like you in your head were reading it like, hey, fuckface.
01:43:57.000I would do it, even though I don't agree with what he said, because he's my friend, and if we disagreed, I'd like to disagree with him on air.
01:44:04.000People that I'm friends with have opinions I don't agree with, and sometimes I've had opinions that are off-base, and someone has sort of explained things to me in a way that's made me think about things in a different way.
01:44:15.000I don't know if Anthony's capable of being reached like that, but sometimes you can communicate with someone and say something that opens their eyes.
01:44:32.000And I feel like at this point, for me to act like it's like...
01:44:37.000See, I feel like if I say this, it sounds like I'm judging you, and I don't mean to be judging you right now.
01:44:42.000But I feel like if I were to go on his show, it would make...
01:44:45.000Unless it was under the guise of, Joe, come on and we'll debate race.
01:44:51.000And it's like, okay, then I could go on and...
01:44:54.000Hey, doesn't matter what this guy thinks, I'm allowed to do this.
01:44:57.000But if I went on the show, and let's say we didn't get around to debating race, now I'm sitting and we're just laughing and yuck it, to me that looks like I'm giving a stamp of approval.
01:45:11.000Okay, I could understand your opinion.
01:45:14.000I mean, my friendship with him is pretty deep.
01:45:19.000I've really enjoyed doing that show, and I have a lot of respect for him, and I probably don't agree with him on a lot of issues.
01:45:24.000When it comes to race, especially, because I have these opinions about things being much, much more complicated than simply black people do this, white people do that.
01:46:39.000They didn't fucking ask to be born in a ghetto, man.
01:46:42.000And if you can't feel that, you don't have any remorse or any compassion for people that are born in terrible situations, to me, that's a mark against you as a human being.
01:47:22.000What I said was, I said I would absolutely go on his show if the purpose was to discuss race.
01:47:29.000I wouldn't go on the show if that wasn't preset, that we were going to do that, because if we didn't get around to discussing race, then we're just having a good time.
01:48:24.000When I reached out and tried to get to a deeper place with him about this and maybe have a discussion or whatever about this, let's grab a beer.
01:48:36.000My let's grab a beer never received a response.
01:49:45.000I just think it's an archaic way to get programming.
01:49:48.000It's this idea that you have to listen to what's on when it's on.
01:49:52.000That's great if you happen to be flipping through the channels or you turn on your car and Opie and Anthony comes on or the Anthony and Jimmy show, whatever they call it now, or Opie and Jimmy.
01:50:01.000When it comes on and it's an interesting interview, it's great.
01:51:19.000I think it's being tested by these sort of situations where you find out that you could be fired for something totally unrelated to the show.
01:51:25.000It's not like they went on the show and he said something that the company can't...
01:51:29.000He went on the show and said something totally racist and the company's like, you can't say that on our show, you're fired.
01:53:02.000I mean, I guess, yeah, to a certain extent, it does bother me that I'll get some of these tweets and whatever.
01:53:06.000But that, to me, is what bothers me about the whole discussion is because I feel like everybody's going, it should have been more open-minded.
01:53:25.000Well, it's just because of your relationship with Anthony.
01:53:28.000Well, I mean, well, no, I also mean, like, just in the public discussion forums, like, the second you don't, you didn't, not you, but anybody, generally, the second you didn't hashtag stand with Ant...
01:53:41.000Or come out and say something, you were a traitor and a piece of shit.
01:53:44.000And it's like, well, that's not open-minded discussion either.
01:53:55.000I guess I always think that because the shitheels are more prone to write stuff, Or voice the negative opinion than the positive people are to voice the positive.
01:54:09.000It seems like the majority voice is that sort of negative voice sometimes.
01:54:13.000Well, they're more likely to fester, and they're more likely to get crazy about it and obsess about it.
01:54:19.000Like, I retweeted this one dude the other day about something, and I saw him going back and forth with people for 13 hours.
01:56:20.000And if that's the case, then it becomes a real issue.
01:56:24.000Because if that's the case, if he denies that there's some complexities to it, but my interactions with him, my communication with him has not been that.
01:56:32.000My communications with him has been there is a real problem in those communities, but it's not his fault.
01:56:38.000And what he deals with is the PC denial of these real problems in that community.
01:57:11.000When the discussions of this stuff would come up on the show, when you're in the room, it sounded a little more to me like what you're saying.
01:57:20.000Like he's addressing that there was this problem.
01:57:22.000But then there was also the times where he would get real mad on the air.
01:57:26.000And even in those times, you're like, okay, he just got a little hot today, and that's not that big of a deal.
01:57:30.000But then, when all these things happened after the show, or after he was fired from the show, that's when it started to feel kind of, like, weird to me, where I was like, okay, well, was all that anger coming from a different place?
01:58:27.000You know, this is a funny thing, man, because I've been going back and forth with people because of something I said the other day on a podcast about Jon Jones, where I said that I think that a lot of the hate that Jon Jones gets, it's possible that some of it might be because of racism.
01:59:12.000It's a tough subject, which is why I think if you're going to address problems in a community, you have to also address potential solutions.
02:00:21.000Those two terms have never not been linked to one another.
02:00:24.000So you put white pride out there, it sounds like white power, people start going down that road, and they're like, what the fuck is this guy all about?
02:00:55.000If someone had Irish pride written on their chest, like if Conor McGregor had Irish pride on his back as a famous Irish fighter, nobody would give a fuck.
02:01:56.000Most of global tyranny, violence, genocide, whatever, a big chunk of it has been perpetuated by white people.
02:02:04.000And white people have pretty much prevailed in the majority In most of the societies that they have ever existed in.
02:02:12.000I'm not saying there aren't poor white people.
02:02:14.000I don't agree with that whole white people problems bullshit.
02:02:18.000I'm not saying that white people can't have a hard time.
02:02:22.000And I'm not saying that there aren't people that aren't white that are as well off or way better off than a lot of white people.
02:02:30.000But, if you want to speak in generalities of race, white has had the least amount of headaches.
02:02:37.000So it's tough when the people that have had the least amount of setbacks and the least amount of headaches stand to the side and go, stop your complaining.
02:03:26.000It's darker, it's more fucked up, and racism to me is one of the...
02:03:32.000It's one of the most unfortunate aspects of humanity, this idea of just seeing someone, basing it on all the data that you've accumulated in the X amount of years you've been alive, all the bad experiences you've had with white people or black people, whatever it is that you have a racism towards,
02:03:49.000and then automatically assuming that this person you have no interaction with whatsoever is negative based on that.
02:03:54.000It's just so limiting and it's so unfortunate.
02:03:56.000It's one of the most unfortunate aspects of being a person, so I can never support it.
02:04:01.000But I think it's a complex subject for debate.
02:04:07.000And anybody that pretends it isn't, whether it's Anthony or whether it's on the progressive side, whichever side has a non-nuanced opinion on it, I think it's a disservice to a complex topic.
02:04:19.000I have a real problem when the topic is addressed.
02:04:25.000With the approach of stop your belly aching.
02:04:32.000Yeah, that's just people fucking with you.
02:05:09.000You know, Italian people and Irish people will say, oh, big deal, we were in the ghettos when we first came here.
02:05:14.000It's like, yeah, but it's just, everybody's got their different run through this, and there's a snowball effect that happens, and it's complicated.
02:05:22.000Yeah, no, it's definitely complicated.
02:05:26.000I mean, it would be nice if we could just judge people on who sucks and then figure out why they suck.
02:05:54.000Any culture ever completely gets it right, where there's no fuckheads, there's no jealousy, there's no bullshit, there's no insecurity or nonsense or...
02:06:04.000I think other countries on the planet have a shot at it.
02:06:57.000Because that just will continue and continue and continue and snowball and snowball and snowball until you have these seemingly unfixable problems.
02:07:23.000But I mean, for God's sakes, it's like we have...
02:07:25.000You look at the situations in the inner cities because of all these different factors that we're talking about and how it began and how it got to where it is now and everything.
02:07:37.000It's like, how could you ever, in a million years, rectify that?
02:08:25.000Because when you try everybody, everybody, I think, just by default, I don't know what it is, I guess it's just survival tactics or whatever, we all sort of have that run-with-the-pack mentality.
02:08:37.000It's like when you're growing up, no matter what kind of neighborhood you live in, whether it's a suburb or the projects or in a fucking country dirt road, on a country dirt road.
02:08:55.000You better stop hanging around with these fucking knuckleheads that you're running around with, because these guys are going to hold you back.
02:10:22.000Yeah, I would have people be so fucking passive-aggressive with me, and it took years.
02:10:32.000And then when I started to find a little bit of success in the business, people that I was friends with would say things to me like, Fuck you, dude.
02:10:40.000Oh, Mr. Fucking Comedian's back in town.
02:10:57.000East Coast more so, I think, and I... We've talked about this before, but I believe it's because they're the children of immigrants that, like, almost everyone on the East Coast is...
02:11:07.000The grandfathers or the great-grandfathers came over from Europe or some other country, landed on the East Coast, and stayed there.
02:11:13.000Whereas by the time people got to the West Coast, they were a bit more progressive, people more wanderlust, more people looking for different options.
02:12:24.000Well, in my LA experience, but I think the city itself, I think at least Southern California, I think there's a certain common mentality that exists here.
02:12:46.000The problem with the show business that you're communicating with, you're talking about people on television and things along those lines, is that there's a lot of people trying to get people to hire them for things.
02:12:57.000Trying to get people to cast them in shows.
02:13:00.000Trying to get people to give them deals.
02:14:15.000It's why whenever any one of us is at a party and we're outnumbered in opinion, Whether it's a political discussion or a fucking discussion about people think Katy Perry's the best.
02:14:58.000There's definitely a strong urge to conform.
02:15:00.000It's part of being a human being, and yeah, you're right.
02:15:03.000It's part of, like, the only way you can ensure your survival is that you're a part of a group.
02:15:08.000I mean, that's ingrained in our DNA, because at one point in time, that's how we survived.
02:15:13.000Marauding tribes would come into our villages.
02:15:15.000You had to stay united as a united front.
02:15:17.000And I think it's a stronger urge in these places where, you know, like in Philly and places along those lines, where, you know, these communities stay intact.
02:15:25.000Whereas in LA, there's more wandering.
02:16:18.000And it's not as bad as a trap that's in the impoverished black communities, but it's still a very similar trap as far as a behavioral trap.
02:16:26.000People are fucking strange, man, because it took a lot of work to get to 2014 with all the rhinos and lions and fucking poisonous bugs and all the shit that's out there that can fuck you up.
02:16:37.000It took a long time and a lot of work for us to get to where we are today with lava lamps and laptops and shit.
02:16:44.000We had to get our way through a lot of things and we had to stay protected while we innovate.
02:16:49.000Here's a crazy thing, totally off subject, but I think we've beaten this to death anyway.
02:16:54.000They found a huge underground reservoir recently that holds three times as much water as the Earth's oceans.
02:17:15.000It's a study that was published in Science Magazine that Earth's water may have been there all along, oozing out gradually from the rock deep in the crust, Right.
02:18:10.000It's called subterranean woodite, ringwoodite.
02:18:16.000R-I-N-G-W-O-O-D-I-T-E. I don't know what that means.
02:18:20.000A deep blue mineral chemically similar to peridot, a green mineral often used in jewelry and that it's been found in meteorites.
02:18:34.000And this ringwoodite came from the transition zone between the upper and lower mantle about 400 miles below the Earth's surface.
02:18:44.000It's about 15% of the weight of this stuff turned out to be water.
02:18:50.000It says if a lot of this water-heavy mineral existed underground, scientists reasoned that there might be enough water to explain where Earth's oceans came from.
02:18:58.000And so then they started doing these studies and tried to figure this out, and they found this insane amount of water below the Earth's surface.
02:19:33.000I wonder if there's any life in that water.
02:19:36.000I don't think so, because I think what they're saying, they're saying this ringwoodite stuff, it's that water is compressed in these minerals.
02:19:47.000See, this is the exact way they word it.
02:19:50.000Obviously, I'm an idiot, but bear with me.
02:19:52.000A Northwestern University professor who led the study found water in subterranean ringwoodite, a deep blue mineral chemically similar to peridot, a green mineral often used in jewelry.
02:20:04.000Until a sample turned up in 2008 in a diamond coughed up from a volcano, ringwoodite had only been found in meteorites.
02:20:12.000The ringwoodite came from the transition zone, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
02:20:15.000If a lot of this water-heavy mineral existed underground, so this water-heavy mineral is what contains all this water.
02:20:22.000So I don't know if they can get it out of the water.
02:20:25.000See, it sounds like, you know, you would hear that and you would say, oh, there's like rivers under the ocean.
02:20:32.000I think what they're saying is this water-heavy mineral is so dense in the Earth's Under the Earth's mantle that the amount of water in it is much more than the amount that's in the oceans.
02:21:46.000Well, then they keep finding these Goldilocks planets, these planets in the Goldilocks zone that are capable of supporting the same type of life that exists on Earth.
02:21:54.000I mean, scientists say that life can exist in a bunch of different ways than they never thought before.
02:21:59.000Like, they're finding life in these volcanic vents deep, deep, deep in the ocean where they never thought that any being could survive the extreme temperatures.
02:22:07.000You know, they're essentially living off lava in the ocean floor.
02:22:13.000These vents are giving birth to these weird kind of life forms.
02:22:19.000What are the life forms like down there?
02:23:24.000Jesus Christ, that's literally Star Trek shit, when there would be plants with mouths and eyes.
02:23:29.000That might be the beginning of something like that.
02:23:31.000Well, you know, if you think about plants like Venus flytraps and shit like that, where they have carnivorous plants, at what point is a plant an animal?
02:23:40.000I mean, when plants start fucking closing in on flies and eating them, I get it's a plant, but that's a predator.
02:23:48.000It lays traps and it actually has action.
02:24:59.000Every time we play videos or things, there's all these weird...
02:25:04.000Is it supposed to be fair use, like when you're discussing something online?
02:25:07.000It fits the boundaries of fair use, the definition of fair use, but people can still dispute it if you know it's fair use.
02:25:14.000And then they put a hold on your YouTube video, and if it goes against you, you get a certain amount of them, they can pull your videos down.
02:26:42.000So it gets to a certain size, and when it gets to a certain size, it's completely carnivorous.
02:26:48.000It eats frogs, mice, it captures them.
02:26:51.000It opens up this thing, and I believe it has a sweet fermented smell to it, and these things go in it because they think there's some food in there.
02:27:59.000May 2010, the International Institute for Species Exploration at Arizona State University selected this Plant is one of the top ten new species described in 2009. So in 2009 they started finding that this thing is a real plant.
02:28:12.000I don't understand how we didn't know about a plant until 2009. Oh, there's a lot of plants we still don't know about in the Amazon.
02:29:45.000The rainforest in Brazil and Peru and down there, I mean, there's so many plants.
02:29:50.000And that's one of the reasons why these pharmaceutical companies keep going down there to try to explore and find out new plants that can provide new drugs and Good reasons for cancer medications and cure diseases and things along those lines.
02:30:04.000And also, there's some of them that they're using for...
02:30:08.000They're trying to do research on this ant.
02:30:32.000It stings you and gives you an unbelievably painful erection to the point where if you survive, where a lot of people don't, if you survive, your dick is broken forever.
02:31:47.000And then, you know, there's other ones.
02:31:49.000We don't give you as much of a headache.
02:31:50.000And then there's this one and that one.
02:31:52.000And they're always trying to find some new one, but they're trying to figure out a way to use this evil, fucking murderous spider's venom and get your dick hard with it.
02:32:00.000It's like that old Leary joke about cocaine, or crack.
02:32:04.000It's like, this is the only country where cocaine wouldn't be fast enough.
02:34:25.000I have so much trees and spiderwebs, and what sucks is at night I'll go out and have a cigarette, and I've walked through so many spiderwebs that I'm surprised that I... Did you ever get bit by one?
02:38:58.000The Note or the Galaxy S5? Well, the Galaxy is bigger than the regular iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 Extra Large or whatever the fuck it's called.
02:39:16.000But I did a side-by-side with the regular new iPhone 6. And the Galaxy S5. Well, the good thing about the big one is that it's supposed to have two hours more of battery life.
02:39:26.000Yeah, the battery's way better for some reason on the big one.
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02:50:09.000Alright, I'll be back tomorrow with Tim Burnett from Solo Hunters.