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00:01:06.000What it is, is like, if you would buy, Aubrey explained it to us, the hustle.
00:01:10.000If you would buy, like, you know, super rocket pills at the gas station, and it says guaranteed erection and all this jazz, they're just selling you Viagra, but they're doing it without a prescription.
00:01:20.000And so they're just putting Viagra in these pills and then saying, oh, this is our super secret supplement.
00:01:26.000And when people find out it works, they buy the shit out of it.
00:01:29.000It's a way to buy Viagra without a prescription.
00:03:13.000It's kind of amazing how you can set a trend, you know what I mean?
00:03:17.000Well, obviously, that's a terrible trend, but it takes one person to be like, I ground up this rock I found in my backyard, and I'll give you some for 50 bucks.
00:06:59.000You know my friend Steve Rinello was telling me that they used to do shows where they would take a raft filled with animals and they would push them off of the big waterfall.
00:07:29.000So they would load this raft up with exotic animals that were freaking out, trying to figure out how to get off the raft, and then just send them over the top.
00:07:50.000But if you were there while that raft is headed towards the apex...
00:07:56.000Do you keep looking or do you go, I don't want no part of this?
00:07:58.000That was like the primitive form of all the fucking Facebook shit of like, distractify.
00:08:05.000It was like, let's just watch something absolutely asinine or horrifying because there's that shock factor.
00:08:12.000But I feel like that's not too far off from watching dogfighting, even though there's gambling and betting involved.
00:08:19.000But like, people that can handle that kind of thing, I think there's just like...
00:08:24.000I think there's some sort of, I can't relate to this, but I think that there's some sort of innate primal instinct to want to see something terrible so it's more terrible than what you can experience in your everyday life.
00:08:39.000Maybe feel better about it or something.
00:08:41.000Or people are just sick and disgusting.
00:09:52.000You're a genuinely nice person who would never do that, so you see it and it drives you crazy.
00:09:56.000One of the things that drives us crazy is the horrible things that we hope we never see in ourselves.
00:10:02.000You know, like when we see something really pathetic, or horrible or mean or vicious, there's part of us that like...
00:10:09.000knows it's evil and knows it's bad and people are being hurt and that part of us, without a doubt, is angry or upset at that situation.
00:10:17.000But there's also a part of us that hopes that we're never like that.
00:10:20.000I think that's part of what you see even when you see a murderer or we see someone whose life has gone totally out of control and off the rails and into the woods.
00:10:30.000You just go, God, could that have been me?
00:10:33.000That's one of the things that freaks you out the most.
00:10:35.000It opens up the spectrum of what we're capable of.
00:10:38.000You see some person who shows up at their job and just starts shooting people.
00:10:42.000And you go, what brought her to do that?
00:11:46.000The other half of the Esquire article was about this dude who was foiled in his mass shooting attempt, and he went to prison, but they didn't.
00:11:55.000You know how he was this world-traveling counterfeiter, and eventually they caught him, and he started working for the FBI. Oh, I'm not aware of that.
00:12:09.000And this was a similar situation where they found this mass shooter who didn't actually get to carry out his plan and then started to use him to get into the psyche of these dudes.
00:12:50.000Questions like that, you're gonna fucking find out.
00:12:53.000Well, mental illness is a terrifying thing, because I don't know what's going on in your brain, I don't know what's going on in your brain.
00:13:00.000I can only guess, based on all the time we've hung out together, that it's nothing scary.
00:16:53.000But I kind of had ideas where it would probably go, and then there's some things you change when you're in the fly, because you kind of realize on the fly that it'd be better if I said it like this, or it'd make more sense if I said it like that, or I could also say this.
00:17:08.000Under the pressure of trying to forge the idea on stage, you come up with some...
00:17:13.000Do you ever like bounce it off of anybody, like a teammate?
00:19:15.000Well, see, I don't know if this truly applies, but I feel like a lot of people who write stuff, song, comedy, whatever, When you're young, it comes, or maybe not young, there's a certain point, like an initial point where it comes very unconsciously, you know?
00:19:27.000Just kind of flows out in a sense of like, okay, I'm just expressing myself.
00:19:31.000And then later on down the road, there's this conscious element that you have to like retrain yourself to do something consciously that you maybe used to do subconsciously.
00:20:04.000Well, not necessarily that it's more of a conscious act, but you understand what you're trying to do now.
00:20:09.000Because when you're young, what you're trying to do is you're trying to kick ass.
00:20:13.000Like, I'm going to get this joke and it's going to be so awesome.
00:20:16.000It's like I was trying to explain to a friend, like, if you made an album, like if you guys decided to make an album, like Honey Honey Band is going to make an album and our goal is to sell the most fucking records of all time.
00:20:26.000So that's what we're gonna do with this album.
00:20:27.000We're gonna make the fucking album that sells more fucking records.
00:20:31.000We're gonna make a million dollars or billion million dollars because I want a fucking yacht and I want a jet and a Bentley.
00:20:38.000So, if you approached writing your songs, and that's all you were thinking about, it would fuck you up hard.
00:22:03.000Like, I don't know anything about chords.
00:22:05.000I don't know how you do shit with your voice.
00:22:07.000We don't know anything about chords either.
00:22:08.000And that's kind of what I'm talking about.
00:22:11.000No, in the sense of like, so we get to this point, and this happens to a lot of people who go to conservatories or like really study this shit, is that they have this technical understanding all of a sudden, and now they have to spend the rest of their career figuring out how to forget about that stuff.
00:22:24.000And just like, how do I come at this like you're talking about?
00:22:28.000Like someone who doesn't really understand it, coming from an emotional place where you're actually using it for what it's supposed to be used for.
00:22:34.000Yeah, I think maybe it's just like exercising too much focus in one area.
00:22:39.000I think it's probably that technical proficiency is probably very important in music, but it's also like nurturing a creative viewpoint, where if you're doing something, let's put it this way, if you're doing something and you're just studying, this is not to knock studying music and practicing,
00:22:56.000but if you're practicing, say, a very particular song, and you're doing that song over and over and over again, I'm sure you're gaining technical proficiency, but Should there be an equal amount of time where you just explore making your own sounds, using your own lyrics,
00:23:12.000having your own thoughts, or should you do the classical music version of music, which is consistently performing Bach, Beethoven, songs that have been done.
00:27:06.000And one day before the biggest sale of the year where people, like ladies, freak out.
00:27:14.000I came into the store and that weekend there had been like, there had been indications and evidence that there were rodents because, and I, you know what, I knew it were rats because I could smell them, I swear to God.
00:27:24.000I was like, I could smell, literally when someone says I can smell a rat, there's a musty smell to them.
00:27:31.000Oh, it's totally, because my first house in LA, I moved into off of a Craigslist ad had rats and I knew, I was like, that smell, I know that smell.
00:27:42.000So, long story short, The exterminators come in and set traps the night before, so Saturday morning when this big sale starts, all the girls were like, oh my god, do you think they caught something?
00:27:55.000We walk into the store and there's one dead rat upstairs, there's one in the trap downstairs, another one downstairs, and then there was another, there was a trap that had been deployed And there was a big,
00:30:05.000So after he kills the rat, and it's like guts and entrails are all over the place, the store manager is like, ladies, we need to clean this up and open this door.
00:32:41.000And then you kind of tell it, but you just told a fucking harrowing story of a rat trapped in Under a trash can shrieking while a bunch of chicks are banging on the window trying to save some money.
00:33:07.000There's like energy stored up in that moment that's come through in a big way.
00:33:14.000I think witnessing amazing, crazy, like, acts of nature like that in any respect, I'm sure you've seen crazy things out in the wilderness, you know?
00:37:38.000I kind of felt like that when I spent a summer surfing.
00:37:41.000I'm not a good surfer, but I used to live by the beach and I diligently would go with a friend of mine who was teaching me how to surf and I had so many moments where I was getting tossed around and where I was scared.
00:37:57.000And you just feel like, this is the ocean.
00:38:12.000I would have these moments where I would get up at 6 in the morning with my friend and go surfing and then have this awareness for the rest of my day.
00:40:24.000You know, people always say, like, you'll hear that, like, Hawaiians are, like, negative towards white people, you know, or negative towards mainlanders, but I just think there's too many of us that are douchebags.
00:43:34.000They probably take to that stuff really naturally.
00:43:36.000I think there's certain aspects of certain movement that are just normal and natural for people if you teach them how to do it.
00:43:42.000But I think there's also learned experience and DNA. But anyway, the point is, she wasn't scared of going in the ocean and being with the dolphins.
00:44:01.000I've been to Kauai twice, the time that we were talking about, and one other time I was on Kauai, and I saw a family, and we were on a dock, and the dock was probably 10 feet off the water, right?
00:44:12.000And there's a bunch of family members in the water, and then a dude dangling a little kid off the side, and the kid's like, ah, fuck!
00:46:46.000I don't feel equipped or comfortable to get into that conversation, but I did tell you, you know, I'm reading a lot of Chomsky lately, and it's such an argumentative subject that, like, I'd rather just talk about, you know...
00:47:09.000Like, do you sit on the sidelines and let it, you know, like, you have your relationship with it and you let it sort of transpire the way it's going to or...
00:47:18.000But there's already too many players on the field.
00:48:40.000You might inspire others with your words or your music or your combination of your talent and your points of view might influence people's ideas.
00:48:50.000I think whenever someone who makes a lot of sense or someone who speaks in a way that makes you realign your perceptions of the world, when they communicate with folks and they put something in their head, those people may spread those ideas out and add to them and it goes further and further and further.
00:49:10.000And then eventually, all of that influences the culture in a more positive way.
00:49:16.000Most protests, or most, I mean, there's very few, like, really, like, angry, violent reactions.
00:49:25.000What they do is they cause people to become defensive, they cause people to re-examine the situation, but what causes people to really change themselves?
00:50:41.000Not sitting out when I... But I think the point of what he's saying is by following through on something you're passionate about, that is the best thing you can do because it creates those environments for other people.
00:51:18.000I've become more and more comfortable with opinions changing, and my own opinions changing, because I think I've actually been, which I didn't understand it as this, but it's a conservative mindset to be like, no, this is my opinion, I'm sticking to it.
00:51:29.000I've been reading this Dylan book, and that's the reason I'm bringing it up.
00:51:34.000It's fascinating, because I'm reading all these interviews with him throughout his career, and I just got to 1980, right?
00:51:39.000And this is him, like, counterculture figure, like, fuck you guys, I'm talking about what I want to do.
00:53:38.000He got cleared, but what does that mean?
00:53:39.000That means, like, this is a dude who's been sexually molested as a child in his life, and he was doing, like, a project trying to expose shit, you know, being like, this is fucked up, you know, and he kind of got outed for...
00:53:51.000And look, I mean, I'm not an expert on it, so I hope this doesn't bite the situation.
00:57:11.000You know, that if I, like, thought about the possibility that it would make other transgender people feel bad, I probably wouldn't have said it again.
00:57:17.000But the reality is that it's one thing to say that you're a woman, but it's another thing to say that there's not some crazy mechanical advantages to the male frame that you don't lose when you transition to being a woman.
01:00:46.000And there's sort of like a, I don't know, fuck, I don't want to get involved in an argument with anyone on the internet, but it almost sort of feels like an unfair advantage.
01:01:03.000What it does mean is just that the physical advantage, it's often like you can overcome physical advantage with technique, but you shouldn't have to.
01:01:11.000There's a certain amount of physical advantage where I don't know.
01:01:13.000I don't think the studies have really been done on fighters.
01:01:17.000I think there's been some studies on athletes and athletes' reaction, but I think the difference between being a man who transitions into being a woman and competing in Olympic volleyball It's very different than being a man who used to be a woman who transitioned to combat sports.
01:01:31.000Because you're essentially dealing with having an advantage in dealing out concussions.
01:03:26.000We're here to have fun, but at the same time, that kind of sometimes also makes it more fun because then there's that guy that everybody can be like, wow, look at fucking, I don't know, Ted.
01:03:35.000When we were in Boston, we used to have a comedian softball game.
01:05:38.000Okay, am I really wrapped up tight and connected to this idea, not just of heterosexuality, but of lifelong heterosexual practice exclusively?
01:05:50.000Like, am I so wrapped up in that that I couldn't give a man a kiss?
01:05:54.000And then I was like, you better shut the fuck up, homo.
01:06:08.000I do little things where I will try to...
01:06:14.000Experience things or go places or put my mind or my consciousness in an unusual situation because I think that when you have unusual experiences, even if you watch unusual DVDs or go to a strange place, you take in new information.
01:06:31.000That new information interacts with all the other information in your head and you form maybe new creative ideas.
01:06:36.000So I think as a person who tries to be creative, it's good to have as many experiences as possible.
01:07:59.000If you're lying on someone's shoulder and they put their arm around like that, what you do is you reach up at the left arm, you protect the neck.
01:10:41.000But it really made me think, the caption underneath it, because it was talking about the practice and the discipline that it took to be able to make that shot and not hit the deer in the fucking haunch so it's crippled for the rest of his life but not dead.
01:10:53.000And that gave me a new respect for hunting, honestly, because I was like, I don't want to go out there and shoot something...
01:13:13.000If we could get the fucking Taliban in the same room and give them some hash and we all eat it together, we could work this motherfucker out.
01:13:19.000You know, we'll bring the entertainment musical part.
01:13:24.000What's going to happen is we're going to read, like, it's going to be the end of the world, and we only have, like, five minutes left, and then you two are going to kiss, and it's going to be...
01:16:49.000Visually in my mind, I was thinking about a news footage of one of the most impressive news videos I ever saw was this Dallas video, we played on the podcast, of these semi-trailers in a tornado that were flying through the air, just spinning around in the air like they were paper cups,
01:17:31.000And, you know, there are people that are really, really, really fucking smart intellectually, can analyze and overanalyze and just inside out...
01:19:00.000When a girl sticks her tongue out and you just spit on it, and she just swallows it, and you know, this party is about to get fucking serious.
01:22:04.000I like calling it hot yoga because apparently, I don't even feel bad saying this, Bikram, the guy who developed this brand, which is a series of poses, and he kind of...
01:23:13.000But Eddie Bravo, he even adopted the phrase, Joey Diaz called it when the Indian comes out, because South Americans are essentially, like Mexicans especially, are Indians mixed with Spaniards.
01:25:29.000Did you lock the door on your way back in?
01:25:30.000Why don't you look up fighter jets LA? Yeah, there's a lot of people like, hey, we're hearing all these fighter jets, and then in San Francisco there was a couple of hours earlier.
01:25:39.000We have to accept the fact that we're doing some creepy shit in other countries, and if it comes back to haunt us, look, these people are We're good to go.
01:31:25.000Or like, you know, when we're on the road, you see truckers come in with like a fucking big gulps, like the whole thing, and they'll fill the whole thing up with Mountain Dew, and the whole time I'm like, oh my god, cancer.
01:31:47.000I was looking at the back of some trucker's truck, and they were advertising four more drivers, and they said 50 cents a mile or something.
01:31:55.000You can't exceed a certain mileage limit.
01:31:57.000And I realize what these dudes are doing, because sometimes I actually think about this, because we drive so much, and I'm like, if this doesn't work out, what am I qualified to do?
01:37:23.000Just to frame the situation, if we have to do an all-night drive, I'll smoke because I can't fall asleep.
01:37:31.000Literally, if I smoke, it would be about five hours before I go to sleep.
01:37:34.000Well, I would imagine it's because the way your body reacts to cannabis is that your body, your creativity starts to fire up.
01:37:44.000And your mind starts to embrace different possibilities than you would do if you were sober.
01:37:51.000It relaxes your inhibitions a little and lets you pursue ideas that maybe because of the fact that you're in this precarious position in your career, in your life, and that you're constantly filled with angst like most 30-year-old men.
01:38:48.000My point being, everybody who smokes weed, who doesn't smoke it very often, it has a big impact on you.
01:38:58.000Marijuana is one of those things where it hits you when you don't do it a lot.
01:39:02.000It hits you harder, faster, and more profoundly.
01:39:06.000Because you have these things in your brain, allegedly, apparently, from what I've read, Called cannabinoid receptors that are literally designed to accept the influence of cannabis.
01:39:50.000See, we have this fucking idea that everything that is the way it is from the time that we've been alive and our parents have been alive and the fucking just say no to drugs from the The Reagan administration was here, that this is the way the world has always been.
01:40:04.000The world has been about consuming cannabis for thousands and thousands and thousands of years.
01:40:09.000But we're growing up in a society where fucking financial interests have figured out a way to control the consumption of gigantic amounts of people, the consumption of one of the most fantastic plants the world has ever known.
01:40:22.000So, when you do get a hold of one, and it It fires you up and you start thinking about shit and you're flying through space and you have all these ideas.
01:43:36.000I'm just curious about what specific process is happening to make me feel like, holy shit, I actually have access to all these different thought patterns now.
01:45:21.000He recognizes that if he gets depressed, which is totally reasonable, the fact that if he falls down, which is what happened, he tripped, fell down, and fucking broke the ball off of his hip.
01:48:07.000What you were just saying about where we're at right now evolved, and we're on this podcast, and we're speaking in our truth, in our own way.
01:48:19.000Because all of the sort of sanitized media and the things that you are given on a regular basis and the information that's coming through, I'm always doubtful.
01:48:51.000But as far as, you know, you were talking about, like, the current state of, like, our mortality and, you know, our visual of, like, ooh, it's really bad or it's how it is.
01:49:06.000The way that we perceive the world now, you have options.
01:49:11.000And options like podcasts or really learning about someone else's viewpoint from their, like right out of the horse's mouth on a podcast that's not funded by, you know, a major oil company or something.
01:50:31.000There's no interruptions, and no one is telling you yes or no.
01:50:35.000Like, there's no publicist that's standing over your shoulder saying this is bad for your career.
01:50:39.000There's no bean counter who's saying, listen, Ben, if you admit to gay thoughts and wanting to kiss Brian Redman on the mouth because of his beautiful mustache, this is going to cost us 14 records an hour.
01:58:24.000Everything other than what is absolutely positive that we can do, whether it's air travel, whether it's travel into space, space stations, is essentially theoretical.
01:58:35.000Unless we've done it, they don't know.
01:58:38.000They assume that we can get away with going to Mars.
01:58:41.000But it could very well be that they get out into deep space and they find out that the magnetosphere and the atmosphere of the Earth is protecting us in ways from long trips Special risks, especially radiation,
01:59:05.000Well, there's a surface of the Earth, right?
01:59:09.000You've got your dirt, you've got your water, you've got what you can touch.
01:59:12.000And then above it, you have various layers of gases.
01:59:15.000You have oxygen, you have the magnetosphere, you have an ozone.
01:59:21.000There's a bunch of things that surround the Earth.
01:59:24.000So the magnetosphere is one of the layers of the Earth?
01:59:27.000I would do a piss-poor job of describing it because obviously my education is piss-poor.
01:59:32.000But essentially what's going on is you have the atmosphere of the planet and it goes from, say, like one inch, you know, like touching the ground to, you know, X amount of miles up in the sky until we essentially start calling it space.
01:59:45.000And then from there on you have the Van Allen radiation belts which engulf the Earth, these radiation belts which, you know, are like a donut-shaped Like, band of radiation that encircles the Earth.
01:59:58.000And then, outside of that, you have deep space.
02:00:21.000I mean, atmospheres, we know for a fact there's atmospheres in many planets, in many different solar systems that we've found throughout the universe, including binary solar systems, which mean they have two different stars, and we've also detected simple gases, like different gases.
02:00:38.000That exists on Earth, whether it's hydrogen or oxygen.
02:00:41.000They've detected those on a lot of planets now.
02:00:43.000It was just like a decade ago when they didn't know how many planets there were out there.
02:01:19.000Not only is there most likely other planets like us, but from the way it's been explained to me, the universe is so big that if infinity is real, and there's no reason to believe that it's not...
02:01:33.000What infinity means, if the universe truly has no boundaries, and if there's infinite numbers of universes, like the same idea exists an infinite number of times, like an unmeasurable, impossible number, that there's another Suzanne, another Ben out there sitting on these shitty OfficeMax leather shoes.
02:01:52.000I know that other Suzanne is like a C-cup.
02:02:32.000There's an infinite number of universes with infinite solar systems, infinite galaxies, and inside one of those, somewhere, a billion, trillion, fucking zillion miles away, there's another Suzanne.
02:02:44.000But this is coming from a point of complete, not complete, but like a decent amount of ignorance, but what...
02:03:09.000Well, the problem is, when you talk about this kind of stuff, especially if it's a guy like you, who's a musician, or a guy like me, who's an idiot, we don't know what the fuck we're saying.
02:03:17.000We don't know what the fuck we're saying.
02:04:10.000The Big Bang did not exist 100 years ago.
02:04:12.000100 years ago, people were riding around on horses and fucking doing Annie Oakley fucking shooting galleries looking at a fucking mirror and shooting over their shoulder.
02:04:21.000It was the greatest thing you could ever do.
02:04:23.000No one knew what the fuck the Big Bang was.
02:04:25.000No one had any idea why the stars were in the sky.
02:04:27.000And now we know, but this guy, this recent guy, excuse me, it's a woman.
02:04:53.000She said she is still in shock from the find.
02:04:57.000Previously, scientists thought the stars were much larger than the sun collapsed under their own gravity and formed black holes when they died.
02:05:08.000During this process, they released a type of radiation called Hawking radiation, but new research claims the star would lose too much mass and wouldn't be able to form a black hole.
02:05:18.000If this is true, The theory that the universe began as a singularity followed by a Big Bang could also be wrong.
02:05:25.000I don't understand a word I just said.
02:05:31.000She's saying by the dissolution of the star, it can't have this ultimately dense, ultimately small, infinitely dense, infinitely small ball of matter which creates the Big Bang.
02:06:20.000When a huge star, many times the mass of the sun, comes to the end of its life, it collapses in on itself and forms a singularity, creating a black hole where gravity is so strong that not even light itself can escape.
02:08:31.000You had to go to college because that's what everybody in your class did, and if you said you weren't going or you didn't know by you graduated high school, people were like, ugh.
02:11:19.000Well, if you're super desperate and you're trying to carve your path in this world with a rabid desperation, like I was, you're always feeling like shit.
02:11:32.000Well, you know, the blues come and go.
02:11:34.000That's just inevitable, I think, at this point.
02:11:36.000And when you accept it and you figure out what it is and what it means and you just keep having an understanding with yourself.
02:11:45.000And it's important that a certain type of people, like people that you listen to, like someone like you or like you or like you guys, name their reality.
02:11:55.000Like talk about the reality and talk about the blues.
02:11:57.000And then everybody goes, oh, I get it.
02:12:07.000We've been friends for years now, and I've always thought you guys were super talented.
02:12:11.000From the moment I saw that one song where you guys were on top of the roof, and you were singing Angel of Death, I love you guys so much too.
02:12:19.000But when you connect with something like that, and you see someone who's doing something that makes you feel good when you see it, and you want to spread it to these other people, it's like...
02:12:37.000I mean, what that is at its best is like there's this weird light that you can find in the deep, dark tunnels of human creativity that makes you feel better about the struggle.
02:12:48.000I like the fact that you guys haven't made it.
02:15:30.000I think it's super important to go through that struggle.
02:15:33.000I think that if you guys had somehow or another started out together and then a week later someone came along and went, holy shit, you guys are fucking great!
02:15:41.000Well, no, we've had that, but it didn't...
02:16:28.000We talk about this a lot, but essentially, being good people and having a legitimate reason for doing this, not like some masturbatory, oh, I just want to be the best.
02:16:40.000That's not why we play music, and that's stupid and narcissistic.
02:16:46.000We have had all these crazy experiences and difficult times, and Was that somebody's stomach?
02:21:17.000I think that we're all locked up in conflict, man.
02:21:20.000And I think there could be a lot less of it.
02:21:21.000And if there was, we'd figure a lot more shit out and we'd get a lot more shit done and be nicer to each other and make the whole experience just a little bit easier, a little more well-loved.
02:22:18.000It's scary to try to come up with new material.
02:22:21.000It's scary to tread down new patterns and not have formulated bits you can call upon that you absolutely know they're going to be effective.
02:27:16.000I'm feeling bad for how you do Yeah, I'm feeling bad for how you do Cause somewhere along the line Somebody gave it to you On the right side and the wrong side No matter how you do I feel for you I feel for you How's that working out for you?
02:28:42.000If I had to stop and guess, I played it one time at the gym, I put it on repeat, and I got on the stair climber, and I went a half an hour, and I listened to your fucking song for a half an hour.
02:30:20.000You can't write Y-O-U-R. Are you scared that you don't know which one is Y-O-U apostrophe R-E and Y-O-U-R? I don't think he's talking to you, Suzanne.
02:30:29.000I think it's kind of bringing it to a larger audience.
02:30:31.000I just wanted to take it to a literal major point.
02:35:18.000He started talking with this great passion about these ancient civilizations that probably existed in Egypt and the resistance to accepting them.
02:35:26.000And he has all this fucking beautiful rap that's like a song.
02:35:30.000It's like a song when he really locks into it, when he really locks into this discussion of these ancient civilizations.
02:35:36.000It's such a passion for him that he's constructed the narrative in this really beautiful, melodic sort of like a play.
02:35:47.000So when he tells it to you, it's hypnotic.
02:37:14.000But the pyramid thing is really under dispute between people that are real legit Egyptologists and people like John Anthony West, who's this brilliant alternative Egyptology thinker, and Graham Hancock, and a lot of these revisionist guys.
02:37:29.000There's still some debate as to what's correct and what's not correct.
02:37:32.000But there's been a lot of evidence that dates the Great Pyramids, like the Pyramid of Giza, to 2500 BC. And that doesn't jive with this guy Robert Schock, who's a geologist at Boston University, and this guy John Anthony West and Graham Hancock,
02:37:49.000who believe that there's all sorts of evidence that there was massive erosion that probably came from rainfall.
02:37:56.000And one of them was on the inside, the enclosure of where the Sphinx was built.
02:37:59.000So where the Sphinx was built, it was sort of cut out of this, you know, big stone quarry.
02:38:04.000And the stones that were cut out were presumably smooth, but over like thousands and thousands of years have become like contoured.
02:38:12.000And the debate is whether or not that contour is because of erosion with sand and wind or because of water.
02:38:19.000And there's a bunch of geologists that have got behind the water, and they're saying, this is water erosion.
02:38:24.000This is consistent with water erosion.
02:38:25.000The number one being the most prominent, Robert Schock, who is a geologist at Boston University.
02:38:31.000He's done a bunch of papers on this and explained that what we're probably looking at is thousands of years of rainfall that's eroded these things, which would predate the construction of this area, the cutout, the flat wall of this area, to like 9,000 B.C.,
02:38:47.000Which they don't have any civilizations that they knew of before, like, that age.
02:38:52.000Like, it was making that kind of shit.
02:38:53.000But then they found some stuff in Turkey called Gobekli Tepe.
02:38:57.000They found this, like, big structure that's like this...
02:40:49.000Does that speak to any extinction that happened?
02:40:52.000Or is it the kind of thing where like, okay, these had an impact in a different part of the world, so it didn't affect the environment like the dinosaur.
02:41:09.000But the way it's been explained to me is there's a great mystery involving what happens when you have some big extinction event, where you have no saber-toothed tigers left, you have no woolly-toothed mammals.
02:45:27.000I don't necessarily think it cuts out business as much as it grows their business and they're very efficient and it's convenient for people.
02:45:36.000But they kind of have a monopoly on the, like, we're going to ship shit for you thing.
02:48:11.000Yeah, and it's basically, it's similar to Amazon, but it's just gotten so big, and because China is such a huge marketplace, it just went global, and it's, at least at the time that it was going out, the biggest globally traded company, or was going to be, on the precipice of that.
02:57:26.000Look, guys, don't say I never had a good idea.
02:57:29.000What kind of wonky-ass nonsense bullshit type...
02:57:30.000So, no, but seriously, let's take an opportunity to say that we're going on tour and we really, really want to see you guys, whoever is listening, if you're in the cities, on our website.
02:58:52.000Oh, babe, I gotta say I learned the hard way with you Your words like books had me hooked like summertime Cooking up my mind all the way through I guess I held on too tight I broke
02:59:22.000my fingers on your floor that night and I lost my faith in my own breath Who knew that love could feel like death?
02:59:39.000But it's not your concern And all I really learn Is all your roundabout All men they burn me You say that God knows the way But
03:00:12.000I'm standing in the dark I soaked you up You rung me out here on a line Messing up my time in the park Oh,
03:00:55.000It don't feel good this goodbye, but by and by we'll go.
03:01:35.000I won't put it all on you I am well aware that I caused us trouble too And I won't look back on you with anger No, I won't Even if you do the same or if you don't Oh,
03:01:57.000but it's not your concern Cause all your rounds are roundabouts Oh man,
03:02:16.000they burn me out They just burn, burn me out Alright.
03:02:52.000I just love when I see someone, like when I see...
03:02:58.000like a band that like taps into this weird like very consistent kind of special energy that comes from like songs that just flow your songs like your songs are so like representative of you guys you know it's weird knowing you guys as friends and then like seeing your writing and seeing the music and the singing together and seeing like the new songs being created it's really fascinating it's so weird I have no skill musically or talent or knowledge or
03:04:19.000I mean, I think it's all like whatever the fuck you're trying to get out of you through whatever medium, whether it's playing the violin or doing stand-up.
03:04:29.000It's all what's trying to get out of you.
03:04:31.000Whether it's building a house, whether it's fucking putting a car together.
03:04:36.000When people do things, they're trying to express something about their own curiosity and creativity is trying to put something together so they can show it to other people and go, look!
03:05:14.000That's what anybody who's creating anything, whether they're creating a movie, they're figuring out how to, like, go deep in the imagination and, like, pull something out of their fucking head and hold it up for you.
03:07:07.000Whether it's your painting, or whether it's your music, or whether it's your, whatever it is, the path of your creativity, whatever it flows through.
03:07:15.000Yeah, and it's like a raw technical element and that's it.
03:07:19.000So what really matters is where you're coming from, from that well perspective, you know?
03:07:24.000Maybe, but the other thing is that I feel like certain people are just drawn to certain type of activities, certain disciplines, certain things.
03:07:36.000And when they resist that, there's huge issues with humans.