Joe Rogan Experience #600 - Ari Shaffir
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In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, I sit down with the creator of Shroomfest, Ari Shafir, to talk about psychedelics, and how to deal with them in general. We talk about the pros and cons of psychedelics and what to look out for when attending a psychedelic festival. Plus, we talk about whether or not you should be taking them, and if you should try them at all. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE on Apple Podcasts or wherever else you get your content. I'll be picking one lucky winner at random who leave a review to win a FREE place on the next ShroomFest webinars! Thanks to Pale Fire and Mossy Creek for sponsoring this episode! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. The Joe Rogans Experience is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. All rights reserved. Used w/ permission from Native Creative Commons and Native Creative Productions. Used wih permission. We do not own the rights to any music used in this episode. This episode was produced, produced, written, and produced by Native Creative, and edited by our patrons. , produced, and licensed to produce, produced and licensed under license. It was edited by , and , and produced by . is a tribute to the late great Jeff Perla podcast. and his music is produced by his band, . . . and produced and produced with permission in collaboration with by the band, and , with . , and the , is , a co-edited by & production (featuring , . , , , & ) . ( ) and ) - and . ( ) is a registered record company. (c) is a proud member of the podcast, (and , ( ) ( ), ( ( ). ( , ) ( ) ( ), and ( . ) and ( ) . ( ) & ( ] ) ,( ) & ( ) , ( & . ) ( ) is Podcast ( ) - AND show ( ) ! ( ) podcast ( )
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Powerful Ari Shafir and his three-dimensional t-shirt.
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Yeah, I'm trying to get the word out for the Lord's product.
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If there's anyone who's ever been doing the Lord's work, it's the man who invented Shroomfest.
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How many people, by the way, worldwide participate in Shroomfest every year?
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That's the last stats I saw, were over a billion.
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Really, we're doing fairly well in that regard.
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Definitely, that's not most of them, but we're getting there.
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There's 7 billion people, and out of the 7 billion people on Earth, 1 billion every year participate in Shroomfest.
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You know, this year, it's August 29th, 30th, and 31st.
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You don't like to do, like, multiple on a weekend?
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This last Shroom Fest, we just kept taking them.
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Just three days, just in the cabin, just fucking going.
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Did you ever worry about, like, being that dude from Pink Floyd that never comes back?
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There's only like barely any guys I've ever seen like that.
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I don't know if it's from that or just mild schizophrenia.
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The real problem is like, what if you have mental illness plus psychedelics?
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If you're just a totally normal person, you have normal balance levels of whatever hormones in your head, but then you take psychedelics.
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If you're prone to that, to schizophrenia, that's the only time I'd be like, then don't.
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Yeah, I would say if reality is at all slippery, just hold off on that.
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If you take a lot of the drugs that people take, like even antidepressants, you're not supposed to ever take mushrooms when you're taking those.
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And then they'll help you medically through that.
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So I asked them about, hey, I heard this thing about MOAI inhibitors.
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So I'm like, I heard mushrooms counteract badly with those.
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And he goes, and I don't know which one's which.
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You're taking this type of antidepressant medication.
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So you really should ask your doctor and find out whether or not it's an issue.
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Sometimes they tell you not to take antibiotics and you have to say why.
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And they go, because if the antibiotics won't work anymore, then I won't drink.
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But if it's just that it's going to make drinking awesome, then I'm going to drink.
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Well, I've heard people that are talking about taking MAOIs, monoamine oxidase inhibitors, and taking those with anything dimethyltryptamine-based, whether it's ayahuasca or DMT or anything along those lines,
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and it becomes really potent to the point where it's dangerously potent.
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Yeah, I think chemical MAOR... I'm saying it fucked up.
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The pharmaceutical versions of it are extremely strong.
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Because that's the whole basis of ayahuasca is a natural MAOI inhibitor, which is called harmine, mixed in with the leaves that have the DMT. That's why you can take it in through drinking it.
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Sometimes those things that flood your brains with...
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You get super happy, like XLC or some things like that.
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That all drops out, and then you're like, oh, I need...
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Your body sort of stops producing it after a while.
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I mean, Tim Ferriss has this statement or this saying, which is a really good saying, is that there are no biological free lunches.
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You know, you drink alcohol, you feel great, then you're hungover.
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It's like, in order to achieve these hyper-natural states, there's some sort of consequence.
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There's a pull and a push and there's something going on every time you do something that fucks with your consciousness.
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It's just the idea of finding what does the least amount of damage and the most amount of benefit.
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Well, there's a lot of people that are like, I am not going through this fucking thing sober.
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This is not a ride that you should take seriously.
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Are you going to somehow or another make a terrible decision when you're on the teapots?
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You're spinning around the teacups, those things that you spin around.
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So they don't serve alcohol at Disneyland, huh?
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Well, they have alcohol at California Adventure.
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Oh, and they have the outside place with all the bars.
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It's not like Mormon alcohol where it's like 2% beer.
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But inside Disneyland, there's apparently only one place where you can get alcohol.
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And it's this place that's above Pirates of the Caribbean.
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And you have to pay some insane amount of yearly money.
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Didn't Dice have Club 43 in his basement or something?
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And he wouldn't tell anybody why he called it that?
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Your Diaz impression is one of the best around.
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We used to have Diaz off, like the Brea Improv.
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These fucking SoCal Mexican comics thought they had great Diaz.
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My voice might have been a little bit better, a little bit more exact.
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He also did the hand thing where it was like this weird...
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Well, he was also, yeah, he was just in the groove.
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When you bring people up to the open mic, he goes, next up.
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And he's just like doing that open shut, open shut.
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My voice was probably a little bit better than his, but he overwhelmed me with his mannerisms.
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You know stuff he says, though, that sounds like stuff he would say.
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Joey's the greatest guy that's ever walked the face of the planet.
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Are these 3D glasses kind of tripping around a little?
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The reason why we're wearing these shirts, Ari Shaffir has these 3D... Why we're wearing these shirts.
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Ari has these new t-shirts, and if you wear these glasses, these t-shirts look three-dimensional.
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It's weird that no one's ever figured out a way to make 3D work without glasses.
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But you go to the movies, you always have glasses.
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Yeah, but even those 3D screens, you have to wear glasses.
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The Nintendo 3DS is an example of a small screen that you don't need glasses, and they do have small monitors that...
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It's just Game Boy by 3D. Okay, like when you go to see like top level 3D, like Avatar.
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Like that opening scene where the dude is floating around, where they're all in that 3D floating around space.
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Remember when they're coming out of their pods?
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And the islands, the floating islands were like, what the fuck?
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I mean, it's still kind of small screens and not as good.
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Isn't it interesting that somebody even figured out how to do that?
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You figured out how to make people look like they're floating in front of you.
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Give this extra dimensional aspect to what you're watching.
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I remember the olden days when they had those spaceship movie 3Ds.
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Like when I was like a young teenager, like 14, 12, something like that.
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And the ships would come over you and you'd be like, what the fuck?
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I want that 3D. None of that bullshit they give you now.
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That's 3D in this really weird, freaky way where you see a car accident a mile away and all of a sudden it's in your face.
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That slow motion movie was good in 3D? What movie was that?
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They gave people the drug they were giving out was slow-mo.
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So they give them slow-mo, then dump them off this fucking giant roof, and they die in like an hour and a half.
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And then Jackass 3D. That and Avatar, those are the only three movies that have ever like, fuck yeah, 3D here works.
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When they were flying, when they were on those dragons flying around, and it was in 3D, you're like, wow.
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All these movies do five at the beginning and three at the end.
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You can't tell us it's 3D as we're going in saying it's going to be at 450. And then fucking nothing.
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Five minutes at the beginning of 3D and then the end, so you go on your way out.
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Like, oh, remember it's 3D? No 3D the whole way.
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Not even like atmosphere 3D? Just where it feels like depth?
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There was a little thing with the canyons and the big bug and the electrical nuclear power supply.
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There was a few moments with the 3D. The fucking falling of cranes.
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If you've never seen Godzilla, shut your car off on the highway.
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They should do a Fight Club type King Kong where he just fucking starts dominating, gets right off the statue of whatever he's on, the Empire State Building, and just goes and fucking smashes him shit.
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Do you really think our puny bullets can penetrate the fucking Great Kong?
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Yeah, but King Kong has black people's strength, so that overwhelms the bigger Asian.
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He's not an Asian, and he's not a black person.
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Being friends with you, Shafir, I'm on the wrong side.
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How else do you justify that he fought even in that fight?
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Well, because it was a fucking Japanese production, it didn't make any sense.
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If you had that King Kong and the real King Kong in a lineup, people would really be able to distinguish between the two of them.
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They'd be like, that is not the guy that fucked me.
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It's the guy on the right, the little short dude, the 50-foot guy.
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He's ten times bigger than that other dude I know.
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Just they want you to be stupid because it's 1962 or whatever the fuck it was when they made that movie.
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It's so hilarious of King Kong versus Godzilla.
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I loved King Kong, and my cousin Mike loved Godzilla.
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And we were arguing, going knuckles up over who would win.
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When I moved to New York, I finally realized any sort of racism, any fear-based racism, like I'm afraid of black people, just became, oh, I'm just afraid of the youth.
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They're more likely to shove and say something.
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Yeah, we were talking about that in the previous podcast.
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He said that teenage boys are the scariest thing on earth.
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They're just coming into their bodies overwhelmed with like testosterone.
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And a lot of their versions of the world are based on movies.
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They say shit that makes you realize like, oh, you're just a child.
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You're just a little boy who's like six feet tall.
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You're 16 years old and you're really strong, but you're out there running through the world like a big baby almost.
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No, big, strong, unsupervised baby who's just learning.
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Like, no, well, actually he had a point that he was trying to make.
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We're all dealing with a big spreadsheet of genetics that was sort of formulated back when people were running.
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I remember, look, when I was on news radio, like in the late 90s, I'd never done any drugs.
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That's what I said about when I was still a virgin in college.
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Occasionally I would drink, but even then I would feel guilty.
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I love how you don't even know what it is to be a loser, but you're like, don't we just not be that?
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Yeah, well, it's enough to scare off the wolves.
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So you've never done drugs or alcohol, pretty much.
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I got sick, and I just felt like total shit, man.
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I got hit with the flu or whatever the fuck it was.
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You know, if it's said to take, like, if you weigh, like, up to 170 pounds, I'm like, yeah, we're about 190 pounds.
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And I probably weighed like 169. I was lean, son.
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And I was deep in this pillow, this down pillow.
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I felt like the universe was just rubbing me with love.
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It's what you used to take when you were a kid growing up.
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You would take one thing and you'd do it right before you go to bed.
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You gotta go to your doctor's office, coughing up a fake storm.
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You just need to start coughing, rough your throat up a little bit.
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Like, if you're gonna turn your girlfriend into the cops...
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If you're gonna turn your girlfriend into the cops for domestic abuse, you'd punch yourself in the face a few times and call the police.
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To get the codeine, you gotta raspy up your throat, man.
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And they go, this poor gentleman needs some codeine.
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I'm braved out because of this doctor appointment.
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And my doctor, both of them have done a really good job.
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He's like, if you need these, there's Vicodins.
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He goes, if you don't need them, I'm sure you can find maybe somebody.
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I have multiple people telling me to tough it out.
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That stuff you're talking about is what all the celebrity kids mix with Red Bull and shit like that, and they drink it as a drink.
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And that's all the beavers and stuff that get caught with the bottles of that.
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It's usually mixed with Mountain Dew or something like that.
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This is a comedian that used to have a real problem with NyQuil.
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And club owners would have to buy him containers of NyQuil.
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I would have said Duncan until he said club owners had to bring them.
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I don't think he was on it when I was on stage.
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I think it's one of those things where, you know, you want to, like, fight the demons on into the night, you need some sort of chemical protection.
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The dragons in those Hobbits were such cool dragons.
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I don't know how many people are working together on that thing, but the CGI that they were able to concoct, what they're able to do- Did it look really good?
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It looks like it's a real thing, and there's another real thing that it's interacting with.
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The CGI is so good, especially with dragons, because dragons aren't real.
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But if you look at, like, a dog, like, when they CGI dogs, it just looks slightly goofy.
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It's like, what are you doing with your fucking...
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I think they have a real hard time, like, making, like, accurate-looking ripples and stuff like that.
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Because it's all done with programs and they have to use all these like various technologies to figure out how to fucking shade things correctly and use the proper textures and it's like it's really complex.
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Doesn't like jitter like it does in the wind like normal?
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Well, you know, Clay Guida couldn't be in the early UFC games because he wouldn't cut his hair.
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So Clay Guida, his hair was so important to him that he chose to not be in the early UFC games.
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Yeah, because he's like, I mean, I don't know if anybody ever...
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Pull that hair and just yank it down during a fight?
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In fact, Hoyce Gracie used Kimo's hair like it was a really important part of him winning that fight.
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He was beating the shit out of him from his back and then he set up an arm bar.
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Like, it's ridiculous to give someone the ability to hold on to the back of your hair if that's, like, a part of fighting.
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Eric Paulson, he's another guy who got in a bad situation because the guy was grabbing his hair and punched him in the head.
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Like, in real life, like, oh, you can't have hair like this.
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It's like my bit about the duck hunting guys, the Duck Dynasty guys and their beard.
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Yeah, if someone wants to fuck your face, that's a goddamn handle right there.
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You gave them a handle to hold onto your mouth.
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Yeah, but they can do it with dinosaurs and they can do it with dragons.
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You can't watch it on TV because it looks terrible.
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Oh, I hope it's in 3D because then we'll already be ready.
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We're going to probably go blind by the end of the show.
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Does anybody feel uncomfortable or is it just me?
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So what we're watching, people that are listening at home, is a super dope yacht headed towards an island that is populated by...
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And this little fucking kid pushes it up front so he can just see.
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And they're just casually strolling around dinosaurs.
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And an impossibly huge dinosaur comes out of the water, eats the shark.
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And you know what I realized when I look at that?
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How many sharks does that thing need to eat today?
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I would just wish this would turn into Guardians of the Galaxy 2. I haven't seen the first one yet.
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Would you be willing to give it all up, the whole Hollywood dream, just to be in her arms for the rest of your life in harmony?
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And the Velociraptors are running away from what is chasing him.
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Yeah, like regular dinosaurs weren't funky enough.
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For sure, the giant one they fed the sharks to, that's coming back into play later.
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That's not going to only be a plot point they're going to hit once.
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I think it's probably really expensive to film underwater shit, and they're like, look, if we could stick to the jungles, we could save about $75 million from the budget.
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James Cameron has this underwater technology down pat.
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He's the only guy right now because of Avatar 2. And he's deep sea diving in the rig, right?
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He goes down like the bottom of the fucking ocean.
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He goes to the bottom of the ocean, and he, like, innovates.
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He's, like, one of those guys that's involved in the innovation as far as, like, deep-sea filming and exploration.
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He's going down in little one-man submarines and shit.
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Even more incredible if he gets through all this and he's fine.
00:31:04.000
Look, he's got enough money to do it correctly.
00:31:08.000
I mean, he's incredibly wealthy and incredibly smart.
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Do you think he has a wife that's like, you should take me with you next time.
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He goes to the bottom of the ocean to get away from her.
00:31:21.000
James Cameron, why did you go to the bottom of the ocean?
00:31:51.000
Avatar 2 and Avatar 3. Is that what I... Really?
00:32:04.000
He married the girl from the Terminator movies, right?
00:32:35.000
You know, I had a problem with Aliens and I still do.
00:32:38.000
The only reason I have a problem with it is because I saw Alien.
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Aliens is all of a sudden they became dopey and easy to kill.
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Alien, the first one, He's incredibly smart and slick and avoiding people.
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And he finds a way to ambush you when you're not looking.
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So you can murder a thousand people trying to stop you, but then one guy, it's difficult.
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He's the one who escaped out of the fucking belly and ran off?
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Maybe what we would do to fix the alien population is get them together, like when they're really young, and feed them only vegetables.
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It fucking slams its head into the door trying to get at you.
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You go to try to retrieve your tray and there's fucking teeth mark in it, big shark bites taken out of it.
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Okay, I'm not giving you anything but mashed potatoes and sweet potatoes and yams.
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Clawing every day for 16 hours clawing at the door.
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Eventually they'll get calm instead of the stereo.
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They have to bring in engineers to figure out when they're going to get tired.
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We have the tube set up on the guy's chest when you know he's going to give birth to the alien.
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Right when it breaks through, it breaks through into one of those vacuum things.
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That's the best way to get an abortion, is stick your vagina in that.
00:35:20.000
Jamie and I were looking at another warehouse space, and one of the spaces, like podcast studio space, one of the spaces had one of those things in it.
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He opened the cap, he sticks something in it, he closed it.
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I mean, we don't know if it worked, but they had a thing there.
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And then people just knew it just went to the right place, just shh.
00:35:42.000
I guess there was a destination on the other end.
00:35:49.000
The place that we were looking at, they did all sorts of weird experiments.
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So I don't know what the fuck kind of weird shit they were doing inside there.
00:35:57.000
Yeah, we looked at warehouses where they had previously done missile technology shit.
00:36:01.000
They probably weren't even supposed to tell us that, right?
00:36:05.000
They probably violated some sort of a constitutional amendment.
00:36:08.000
We all start getting, like, knee cancer from just being there.
00:36:23.000
Eventually, you'd have your dick in there, right?
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Just saw the bottom off a fleshlight or unscrew it and just...
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Imagine if no one knew, but then, like, you get, like, the standard, like, male slot vacuum thing, and you put a flashlight to it, and you're like, oh my god, look at this.
00:36:51.000
This is like, it's like Indiana Jones, where you, like, put the right thing into the wall, and you turn the key.
00:36:59.000
Oh, but then the worst part about that is after you come, it would just shut up that fucking slot, and someone else would just shoot it into somebody's office.
00:37:05.000
No, we're going to test it, just catch a fucking facial.
00:37:07.000
No, it goes right into the ocean, and it feeds fish.
00:37:17.000
It's the same house that they use to film Iron Man.
00:37:34.000
Yeah, if somebody came up with something like that, have you seen the latest stuff they're doing with Oculus Rift?
00:37:43.000
They're doing three-dimensional, yeah, virtual reality.
00:37:45.000
And so you have stuff on you, it's going to, like, touch you and stuff?
00:37:50.000
And you're watching it, and it looks like you're actually doing it.
00:37:54.000
Yeah, but eventually they're gonna be able to sync that up with something that stimulates your senses.
00:37:59.000
You still haven't watched a South Park Oculus Rift episode, have you?
00:38:03.000
Man, you gotta watch this whole season of South Park.
00:38:08.000
This is the first season where the whole season holds together as one.
00:38:32.000
Well, Comedy Central, you use an HDMI to get it to the Comedy Central Direct or ccdirect.com?
00:38:45.000
So if you have an iPad or an iPhone, you just use that app.
00:38:54.000
Like, you go on Apple TV, you can go to the UFC.tv.
00:39:00.000
Yeah, Fight Pass is available on Apple TV. And you can watch fights like that?
00:39:04.000
I was bored, and I just said, let me just watch some old fights.
00:39:13.000
All those old, they each have their own symbol.
00:39:18.000
I haven't watched TV on a regular TV in forever.
00:39:20.000
What do they have those things up there where you can go to the Netflix one and the FX and...
00:39:25.000
And because they all just have their own live HBO Go.
00:39:29.000
And you just Apple TV it into the TV. Apple TV is incredible.
00:39:33.000
The only thing that's incredible is live sports.
00:39:36.000
You can watch live Fox, live CBS. That's eventually going to happen.
00:39:44.000
The regular television networks are going to be obsolete.
00:39:48.000
It's just too difficult to support that sort of model when someone can do something like Netflix where they can have the entire season up in advance.
00:40:14.000
But they have like some insane amount of people that have subscribed.
00:40:17.000
Yeah, because they keep putting out good products.
00:40:19.000
70 million worldwide and 70 million people paying seven bucks a month.
00:40:28.000
Yeah, they keep putting it back into like making new shows and stuff.
00:40:38.000
Netflix, my first one, my first legit one, I did it for Netflix, then put it on Showtime.
00:40:48.000
They were always doing things like that, though.
00:40:51.000
The Bill Burr one they did, the black and white one from Atlanta.
00:41:16.000
You're trying to tell me that you can get your special right now at arieshaphir.com.
00:41:27.000
And you'll get the bigger version, the 30 extra minutes.
00:41:48.000
I was there before it was a Jew and A. Before somebody came up with, like, Jew and A. That's short in the Q&A Jew and A. Yeah.
00:41:58.000
That was one of the first days I ever came back.
00:42:00.000
I came back the day before that to watch the roast battle.
00:42:04.000
I like how you said, I don't make a big deal with your special.
00:42:09.000
Yeah, I wanted it to be, I wanted it to be, I wanted just to see your special, take it in, not as someone like, I can't believe I'm at the store the very first time back in seven years, and I'm seeing Ari's special.
00:42:19.000
Being filmed, I wanted to get that out of the way, so I got that out of the way first.
00:42:24.000
It was so weird seeing you up there doing your special.
00:42:40.000
Knowing you when you really first started doing stand-up.
00:42:42.000
And you watched me on that stage fucking as a terrible new comic.
00:42:46.000
Well, as a smart, open-miker that had potential.
00:42:54.000
I remember the moment I first started talking to you, I was like, this guy can do it.
00:42:59.000
I'm like, all you have to do is just keep going.
00:43:02.000
I knew you were smart, and you were funny, and you were young, and we were all young and awkward, but you were...
00:43:13.000
Like, if you had an idea, you could say, we could be all talking, and you would say something, and people would go, yeah, you know, and that's all you need.
00:43:19.000
That's all you need, and then you have to be able to draw from that.
00:43:22.000
But I knew you were smart, and I knew you were, you know, you were pretty driven to be a stand-up comic.
00:43:38.000
I mean, that's also part of what drives you to put in the work.
00:43:42.000
We all know guys that started out at the same time as you, that were really talented.
00:43:48.000
They had the same kind of potential that you had.
00:43:53.000
I don't even want to mention names because I don't want them to hear this podcast to be bummed out and how things went on.
00:43:59.000
They didn't go on to become professional comedians even.
00:44:02.000
They just kind of got a job somewhere and they never figured out how to follow through.
00:44:05.000
But there's a few guys that we could talk about off air.
00:44:13.000
But I think that's for the guys who do get through.
00:44:22.000
Don't think you can ever take time off of analyzing what you're doing and making sure that you're doing it right.
00:44:32.000
Well, at every level of development, somebody's dropped off.
00:44:35.000
So even somebody's like, how to hit, you know, special.
00:44:38.000
Someone else has one good open mic joke and drop off there.
00:44:41.000
Like, at every level, you're going to have a...
00:44:42.000
Have however many people, ten people at that level, and it's going to drop off to three that make it to the next level.
00:44:48.000
You know, one of the things that's really excited me about being back at the Comedy Store and also deciding that I'm going to stay in L.A. for a while.
00:45:01.000
This area that we have now, the amount of cool places to work, the amount of cool comics, the amount of funny guys that are in this area that we're at right now, this is really rare.
00:45:17.000
We've done some of these shows at the Ice House.
00:45:20.000
The last one we did I think it was you and Bill Burr and Joey Diaz and Brian Callen and Ian Edwards.
00:45:27.000
And we're sitting around and I was like, this is the fucking most murderous lineup I've ever seen in my life.
00:45:38.000
We all drive here on a Wednesday night to hug each other, smoke some joints.
00:45:42.000
You know, and Brian's doing the Ice House Chronicles.
00:45:45.000
He's getting millions of downloads out of the same spot.
00:45:49.000
You're going up there and you're killing it in front of this crazy Pasadena crowd too.
00:46:00.000
Yeah, me and Metzger always get into a fight over, like, LA or New York who has better comics.
00:46:04.000
But then I always point to, like, guys like Byrds.
00:46:06.000
Like, you developed their best ones and then shipped them off to us.
00:46:17.000
There's two good environments for stand-up, and I think one of the advantages that you have, coming from the LA model, which is less clubs, less sets, to the New York model, which is more clubs, more sets, more travel, you're hopping back and forth from club to club, is that you're coming from two different perspectives.
00:46:37.000
There's weaknesses that each one has, and they just can deal with it because they're used to that scene.
00:46:42.000
Yeah, I feel like your jokes, your laughs per joke, the tightness of your joke has become cleaner since you went to New York.
00:46:50.000
Yeah, in New York there's a lot of like, come on, come on, get to it, get to it.
00:46:56.000
But then also center it with something else where it's not all about an ironic level of just, here's my writing joke.
00:47:02.000
They have a lot of that where it's not so much truthful, it's more like, here's a good joke about a thing.
00:47:06.000
Well, what I was going to say is I think that the combination of what you brought from your experience in LA and on the road and then going to New York, that's a good mixture.
00:47:16.000
And I think that ultimately that's all you could want as a comic.
00:47:20.000
I think one of the things that's really important for all of us that seems to be important when I watch other people do it, when I'm outside of it, is life experiences equal funny, equals perspective, equals funny.
00:47:30.000
The more experiences you have in your life, the more material you're going to have.
00:47:34.000
You know, and I mean, experience is like, go do something.
00:47:40.000
Like, Bill Burr's bit about being a helicopter pilot.
00:47:45.000
Let's get this new bit of a special about learning how to fly a helicopter.
00:47:49.000
I'm not saying anything more, because it's just that fucking...
00:47:55.000
I won't ruin it by saying the word helicopter, so I'll leave it at that.
00:48:00.000
And it's a bit that he developed by actually doing that.
00:48:11.000
I like to watch people cross the street while he's coming at them.
00:48:24.000
Not just like the comics, but I'm talking about the girls, the bars, and the way you walk instead of drive.
00:48:36.000
And, I mean, even if you don't want to move somewhere, I mean, try jujitsu.
00:48:45.000
Get out there in the fucking shark-infested waters of Santa Monica.
00:49:05.000
I went to a bunch of different places and tried it as much as I could.
00:49:08.000
Well, you did a lot of comedy in China, and we talked about that the last time you were here with all that gutter oil stuff.
00:49:25.000
But doing comedy there for like a specific type of people, it's like, oh, interesting.
00:49:28.000
All right, some stuff works, some stuff doesn't.
00:49:29.000
Do they just go to see anybody who comes there every week?
00:49:41.000
Well, it is pretty cool if you're in a spot, if someone figures out a way to get really good comics to fly out all the way to Singapore and perform in front of you.
00:50:00.000
What we're saying is, like, this is a great time.
00:50:05.000
This is, like, maybe the best time of all time.
00:50:07.000
There's a bunch of good people doing good stuff.
00:50:10.000
Yeah, like, if you take yourself out of the mix.
00:50:12.000
Yeah, take yourself out and then judge the system.
00:50:16.000
There's so many shows and there's also like the ability to promote oneself through the internet has gotten to this point where you get to know people.
00:50:26.000
We've talked many times about Robin Harris who was a really funny black comic back in the 90s.
00:50:42.000
Yeah, but he was just so goddamn good, man, at the time.
00:50:45.000
But for whatever reason, the distribution method just wasn't available for him at the time.
00:51:00.000
Because you don't need a Beatles for everybody.
00:51:02.000
You just need very specific things for very specific audiences.
00:51:08.000
And it's like, you don't have to like Dave Matthews band.
00:51:09.000
You can like a little bit more of an upbeat Dave Matthews band.
00:51:12.000
There's nine bands that are playing that type of music right now.
00:51:15.000
You don't have to wait for the radio to bring it to you.
00:51:28.000
Yeah, and he was still through those distribution methods.
00:51:37.000
I mean, there's a lot of people that essentially should be giant stars that for whatever reason don't get considered in the same breath as like Jim Morrison or Janis Joplin or dead people, right?
00:51:52.000
Chris Cornell from Soundgarden, maybe one of the greatest vocalists of all time.
00:52:01.000
But, I mean, if you, like, if you looked at, like, people who people, like, worship as being, like, all-time greats, for whatever reason, that guy, like, slips through the cracks.
00:52:12.000
Some people just hold up and some people don't when you talk about him 20 years later.
00:52:25.000
Who's the black guy that took over for the white guy?
00:52:30.000
The black guy that took over for the white bye?
00:52:45.000
And you forget the fact that it's not Lane Staley until he sings Down in a Hole.
00:52:49.000
We're going to play a little game of YouTube Roulette.
00:52:53.000
Let's see if we get kicked off YouTube by playing this.
00:53:08.000
I have to find something with him and singing it.
00:53:16.000
Oh, let's just find out some of their new shit.
00:53:44.000
Wow, Jerry Cantrell looks like he should be in a fucking Nickelback.
00:53:51.000
He's so happy with life and everything, though, so it's tough to believe that he can actually sing about heroin.
00:54:20.000
Get Born Again, 1998. Well, this is Lane Staley then.
00:54:31.000
Staley died in 2002. The band decided to reunite for a benefit concert.
00:54:38.000
That was the starting point for a new beginning of Alice in Chains.
00:54:44.000
14 years, they released a new album with lead singer William Duvall.
00:55:11.000
Jamie, this is probably your biggest failure you've ever had here.
00:55:13.000
I just want to say, as an artist, as an artist, artist to artist, shut up about your fucking journey.
00:55:24.000
You're a goddamn singer in a rock and roll band.
00:55:37.000
I had to take my own guitar case up to my room.
00:55:45.000
We always see DSA guys with leather pants in Hollywood during the day when it's hot out.
00:55:53.000
They're hot as shit, and now it's melting inside.
00:56:14.000
William Duvall has made a generally positive number five.
00:56:32.000
Because we never talked to you about your balls and your butts and stuff like that.
00:56:45.000
I was a 9. I was like, fuck, well, I got herpes.
00:57:01.000
It looked about like one out of like ten of them.
00:57:05.000
Never had them before, but I was like, look, I'm not the most careful guy in the world.
00:57:14.000
So I was like, well, look, it's caught up to me.
00:57:19.000
It's better than I got it when I was 25. I wish right now we could play Damn It Feels Good To Be A Gangster.
00:57:25.000
Because you were in 10 different countries at least.
00:57:27.000
I was in a bunch of countries and I was like, look, this could have happened at any point, but I narrowed it down to who I thought...
00:57:56.000
And in the meantime, it's over Christmas weekend, so it's going to take longer.
00:58:01.000
And then while I was hanging out, I was hanging out at the stand, comedy club.
00:58:09.000
But I'm talking to the owner and Pete Lee, this comedian, and telling him my problem.
00:58:28.000
Actually, I noticed it right after unlubricated anal sex.
00:58:55.000
Yeah, you get it wet and then you fucking go for it.
00:59:01.000
But you didn't have anything commercial lubricant.
00:59:04.000
And I'm telling you, if you think your wife has been happy when you've called before, after fucking three days on the road of not being able to call, you've never heard you tell a girl, oh, I was wrong.
00:59:24.000
Now, do you think maybe you should have just waited until the results came back?
00:59:28.000
Well, I didn't want them to fuck somebody else in the meantime.
00:59:30.000
And then while I'm waiting aside, some other guy's life is ruined.
00:59:37.000
Also, on the other level, I figured I could tell them I'm 90% sure it was like a cop-out.
00:59:44.000
I thought that, from what I understood when I got tested, was that you can only test herpes while the outbreaks happen and they actually spoon a little out of the outbreak.
00:59:53.000
Like you can't really, it's really hard to test for herpes.
00:59:56.000
So a lot of times you can get tested during like not an outbreak and be like, oh yeah.
01:00:15.000
And I heard if you do pop it, you could actually taste it.
01:00:20.000
How many different fucking pus wounds do you have to taste before herpes is like, I got it.
01:00:27.000
This is Sauvignon Blanc, 94. This person's had it for a while and treated.
01:00:46.000
How many herpes did you have to be able to taste to be able to taste herpes?
01:00:50.000
Well, you know, they figured out a way to train dogs to smell cancer.
01:00:59.000
You're telling me they can't put a dog at the fucking TSA counter?
01:01:03.000
Yeah, but they also were going to smell for weed.
01:01:15.000
He thinks it's a bomb, but it's really just weed.
01:01:20.000
Listen, man, we don't want to send him to the pound, Ari.
01:01:23.000
Let's just take a few, you know, one or two weed arrests a month.
01:01:34.000
That's infringing on our rights just for your way to raise money.
01:01:38.000
Sometimes out of that struggle comes a dialogue.
01:01:53.000
They're gonna go to jail for a little while, 24 hours.
01:01:56.000
I'll tell you what, my friend's son, the kid was a ne'er-do-well.
01:01:59.000
He started going to jail, and he got out of jail, and he realized, I don't want to go to jail anymore.
01:02:03.000
No, that's not a reason to search every American.
01:02:12.000
I punched him in the stomach, and I brought him to the Lord.
01:02:22.000
And then get ready, Bonnie, uh, wait, Princess Bunny.
01:02:30.000
You're about to see something that's going to disturb you.
01:02:32.000
You're about to see, before that, you're about to see a guy punch a guy in the stomach.
01:02:43.000
Look, as soon as he starts writing pastor, that's what shows up.
01:02:46.000
It's one of the first, uh, that's it right there.
01:02:58.000
He was just, he was a nice kid, but he was one of those kids that was always just, he's a real smart aleck.
01:03:04.000
Was a bright kid, which didn't help things, right?
01:03:22.000
I punched him in the chest as hard as I crumpled the kid.
01:03:28.000
And I said, I leaned over and I said, Ben, when are you going to stop playing games with God?
01:03:58.000
He was saying he was smart, and that was part of the problem.
01:04:32.000
That's a grown man who's teaching people, who's leading people.
01:04:40.000
Anybody telling you they know the answer should be arrested.
01:04:47.000
You can't put on food, even this crooked FDA, you can't put on food tons of nutrients without any proof of nutrients.
01:05:01.000
It's like, could you show us that you do it all?
01:05:03.000
Are you just making it up and taking people's money?
01:05:04.000
Sir, would you like to show me your proof of this Adam and Eve concept you've been throwing in front of this congregation?
01:05:20.000
Yeah, when you look about it, when you take a step back and look at any level of religion, you're like, oh, this might be garbage.
01:05:28.000
This is a bunch of people that were trying to figure out what the fuck the stars were.
01:05:35.000
I have a joke about the Ten Commandments in my new special, Paid Regular.
01:06:05.000
So, if you have it on television, it comes on after midnight, they can do whatever they want.
01:06:12.000
Yeah, there's stuff I'm able to get where they were like, well, we don't know about that.
01:06:15.000
And they're like, oh, actually, it's after midnight.
01:06:26.000
My comedy special aired again last Friday night.
01:06:32.000
I wish I had more of a heads up so I could have promoted it.
01:06:38.000
The ratio to people that didn't like it versus liked it was way higher than my last one.
01:06:48.000
I think that right now, it's such an exciting time for stand-up, and I'm so excited about doing new shit.
01:06:54.000
I don't think in all the years I've been doing comedy, I've had more fun doing it.
01:07:00.000
But it's not like you're not trying to do well.
01:07:03.000
You're trying to kill it, but just with newer...
01:07:05.000
It's like taking a smaller bat and still trying to hit a home run.
01:07:41.000
When I tell you the word I was looking for, when I tell you the word I was looking for, clock.
01:07:55.000
I can't let this keep going downhill like it is.
01:08:09.000
When's the last time you took a break from smoking?
01:08:24.000
I had to do this thing where I was working so I was like quickly like doing...
01:08:27.000
I didn't have time to like go out and try to find weed.
01:08:43.000
Overseas is too much danger to take it with me.
01:08:54.000
I sure would want some, but I've been working, so I don't have time to do it.
01:08:58.000
Well, if you watch Celebrity Rehab, you see Eric Roberts on it.
01:09:10.000
Eric Roberts is drinking coffee reading the New York Times.
01:09:20.000
Everybody else had fucking crusty mascara all over their face and tears and fucking sadness.
01:09:30.000
And Dr. fucking Drew still won't say it's different than those other things.
01:09:40.000
Yeah, but I know people who can't stop doing a lot of shit.
01:09:50.000
Wow, with the 3D glasses, the fire looks really kind of weird.
01:09:54.000
I wonder if, like, if we keep this arm this long, when we take him off, it's going to fuck our regular.
01:10:01.000
When I go over to my left side, the flame just goes off.
01:10:08.000
Joe, do you want to see this pool table projection?
01:10:15.000
I've never seen Joe react so horribly to any piece of technology.
01:10:24.000
A real pool table is played with fucking traditional lights and regular balls to keep everything clear.
01:10:46.000
Maybe you can play TV so you can watch the big game while you're lining up.
01:10:54.000
A pool table is supposed to be a green landscape of opportunity, of collisions, of maneuvering, of English and spin and reaction to chalk and balls colliding and slide and follow and draw.
01:11:12.000
Not supposed to be looking down at a fucking glass table.
01:11:27.000
They had Chess 2. Instead of having straight up and down, they would have the go like this, like lines.
01:11:32.000
So you couldn't really see where another opponent was.
01:11:48.000
But then you look at the way it's, like, curved.
01:11:50.000
And you're like, oh, it's right in a diagonal line.
01:12:05.000
When was the last time you ever even tried to play a game of chess?
01:12:07.000
I fucked around with it on my phone like maybe a decade ago.
01:12:18.000
You could play up to like, I think, five people or something.
01:12:25.000
You ever go there and watch those chess players?
01:12:28.000
The timing chess where they hit the clock and they slap the clock.
01:12:33.000
Because they're really thinking, like, about this grand plan on this board and where all these pieces have opportunities.
01:12:42.000
And trying to be sneaky and creative and they're doing it on a clock.
01:12:47.000
And they're like homeless people too that are playing there.
01:12:51.000
The thing about pool and the thing about chess and the thing about there's a lot of these games that are so engrossing.
01:12:57.000
You get so sucked into them that it takes over all your other ideas.
01:13:04.000
There's a lot of bachelors that just wind up being some bachelor in some shitty apartment and you just give up on having a girlfriend and you just gamble all the time.
01:13:16.000
And you see that a lot of times with, like, pool.
01:13:25.000
There's a groupie in every, if you can think of anything.
01:13:29.000
If you can think of, like, miniature golf, there's probably miniature golf.
01:13:32.000
Once Tommy DeLutz showed me who the bowling groupies was, right after I was saying the UFC groupies, that's when I realized everybody's got a groupie.
01:13:40.000
What's interesting, they will go for the best players.
01:13:47.000
There's like dudes who aren't that good looking, but they're really good players and they'll get like pretty good looking pool groupies because the pool player girl like really wants to be associated with like a world class player.
01:14:08.000
The ones who are, like, pool players as well, then they really appreciate how good a guy is.
01:14:22.000
I think there's men that are just obsessed with the way a woman sings.
01:14:32.000
You just stay in that world, and that's all I care about.
01:14:36.000
If a guy's a badass pool player, and that's all you care about is pool, that guy's doing magic up there.
01:14:41.000
It's like, well, the problem is he uses power to get laid.
01:14:44.000
You're like, oh, you mean you can't build up a bunch of power and then use it?
01:14:48.000
It's half the reason to build power to become the president so girls would want to fuck you.
01:14:52.000
You're not like saying, I won't give you this promotion without you fucking.
01:14:57.000
It's just saying, they just come in wanting to fuck because I'm President Bill Clinton.
01:15:01.000
And I'm supposed to suddenly go, no, that's wrong for me to accept.
01:15:05.000
And you're also supposed to deny a Fucking million generations of conquerors in their whoremongering ways, and you've usurped them to become the fucking king of the world.
01:15:17.000
I mean, the president of the United States is the king of the world, right?
01:15:21.000
I don't get laid because of the system of Catholicism that started in our country fucking 200 years ago.
01:15:38.000
That's why he has that bastard son that they sent to the fucking castle.
01:15:44.000
That's the best man that's ever been in that fucking world.
01:15:56.000
This is episode 600. I just did episode 200 this week on Skeptic Tank.
01:16:18.000
Have you done anything interesting on your podcast lately?
01:16:21.000
My favorite one was the one where you had a talk with a hooker back in the day.
01:16:27.000
I had this guy who helps work at the Insight at that Vancouver place with a safe shoot-up place.
01:16:34.000
Yeah, you know, Hastings Street's all fucking zombies and fucking heroin addicts.
01:16:37.000
And so they offer this safe shoot-up place where you can tell them what you're going to shoot up on.
01:16:41.000
And if something goes wrong, they can tell the paramedics how to revive you.
01:16:58.000
Because when you want heroin, sex drive goes way down.
01:17:04.000
And then this week's about the open mic at the Comedy Store.
01:17:10.000
Did you talk about how it pretty much got it chopped in half and how it's not as...
01:17:15.000
No, this was about the heyday when it was the freak show.
01:17:37.000
Yeah, definitely don't wear this for an hour or more.
01:17:40.000
We did, like, almost two hours with those stupid fucking things on.
01:17:43.000
Just kind of look at the shirt, say, wow, cool, and then take them off.
01:17:50.000
Yeah, I mean, you hosted the employees and the showcases, but before that part is the potluck part, where it's the fucking 20 pure open micers, which could be guys like me when I started, or could be fucking guys like Boon Shakalaka.
01:18:05.000
I hosted people going on for the very first time ever.
01:18:14.000
I was always amazed that Bob Oshack didn't become like some sort of a...
01:18:22.000
But I would have thought that he would be like...
01:18:38.000
But I think he really loves being in a fucking writer's room and just churning out jokes.
01:18:45.000
I'll hit you with fucking eight hours worth right now.
01:18:49.000
I've always thought that guy was going to be some big household name.
01:18:56.000
He's like the opposite extreme of people who write on stage.
01:18:59.000
He was like 98% done with his bits when he brought them up for the first time.
01:19:06.000
So he was like the first professional comedian I saw over and over again.
01:19:25.000
He wears it like a shield, like one of those motorcycle jackets with pads all over the elbows.
01:19:34.000
That's all right, but as long as you don't hop on her.
01:19:53.000
But Tommy kind of was like, mm, kind of pushed him to the side, so I think now he's back a little bit more.
01:20:01.000
But that's, uh, you know, when you're primarily focused on one club and you have a Bad relationship.
01:20:19.000
You're talking about one guy letting you say yes or no.
01:20:22.000
Isn't there something when you see certain guys where you go, okay, I think if you don't really pay attention to this guy, you might see it one way.
01:20:29.000
But if you follow him long enough, you realize there's like all these layers underneath there.
01:20:36.000
Yeah, like you're looking at him, you might judge him.
01:20:54.000
And then you're like, oh, you're not a suit comic.
01:21:06.000
Whereas, like, if you, like, went on TV on some television show, like, The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, you had a hoodie on?
01:21:13.000
They'd be like, who the fuck do you get to fucking wear something nice?
01:21:17.000
You're not happy to be in front of us like it's your birthday?
01:21:19.000
There was some old jazz singer who got, like, one of those trombones, one of the greats, like, Dizzy Gillespie types, and he was like, the one thing I was told was, I know I was living out of my car, but they're like, find yourself a good suit.
01:21:31.000
Well, most important, when you don't have money, that's why those nouveau riche nirvana type motherfuckers had millions of dollars and they're wearing tattered up Converse All-Stars.
01:21:41.000
Yeah, that was almost like a badge of courage that they kept their wardrobe as real as possible.
01:21:49.000
Again, if you could do that at the MTV Video Music Awards or...
01:21:53.000
You can do whatever the fuck you want when you're in nirvana.
01:21:57.000
Nobody ever expected Kurt Cobain to wear a suit.
01:22:01.000
If Kurt Cobain went on stage with a suit on, that would be him fucking with you.
01:22:07.000
Yeah, but if you saw him the first time that night, you'd be like, I don't get it.
01:22:17.000
Or comics sometimes choke under showcase situations.
01:22:33.000
Yeah, you could, I mean, up till, you know, the time you record a special, like when you're trying to develop new material, there's always the possibility that it could go wrong.
01:22:48.000
He's actually a really good political comic, but he's new, and he went up to the cellar, and he just fucking choked.
01:22:54.000
And then he had to wait around for her to come tell him no.
01:22:59.000
You're like, but maybe, because you always hold off in the back of your head, but maybe, maybe she'll be like, well, that was good.
01:23:06.000
Nobody just goes, yeah, obviously, I didn't do it right.
01:23:20.000
There's nothing crazier than watching someone perform in front of Mitzi and hear a girl, He's terrible!
01:23:46.000
When I first met her, I had many conversations with her about comedy and what I was doing wrong.
01:23:55.000
She goes, you don't do new stuff in the beginning.
01:24:01.000
She was always really smart about challenging you.
01:24:06.000
Where you would go on after whoever she thought was going to do the best.
01:24:11.000
She would shove you right afterwards to teach you.
01:24:19.000
Go on after Martin Lawrence in 1995. In his prime.
01:24:30.000
I had many of those spots in the main room bombing.
01:24:47.000
Here's when you know you're bombing in that room because it's so quiet.
01:24:52.000
And you're like, I don't even have to look over.
01:24:59.000
You feel the temperature change in your forehead.
01:25:04.000
That's what Sanchez said, because she made him follow dice every night.
01:25:06.000
He said he tried to be extra dirty, and that didn't work, and then he tried to be extra clean, that didn't work, and then he was like, well, let me just do what I do, I guess.
01:25:19.000
At the very least, you've got to prepare to dig your way out of the ditch that's in front of you.
01:25:29.000
You've just got to submit to the fact that you'll never be better than Martin Lawrence in 1999. Right.
01:25:39.000
Big Jay sees those as good opportunities because the crowd's in an awesome mood.
01:25:44.000
And then some of it's being a comic and having to be like, it's not just my material.
01:25:47.000
I got to fucking move and shift with the fucking new room.
01:25:50.000
Well, it's also Big J in 2015 is way better than I was.
01:25:58.000
And he did this whole thing where he's like, you got, because it was just like, you know, those are big moments for a comedy crowd.
01:26:04.000
And he's like, you guys just got Louis C.K. You did it.
01:26:08.000
You couldn't even come in here thinking you were going to see him fucking 11.45 a night.
01:26:21.000
Now you're going to listen to my stories of childhood!
01:26:27.000
But it's that technique of being able to like, let me pull them in here.
01:26:32.000
Steve Simone is easily in the top 100 nicest people ever to enter show business.
01:26:37.000
Of every people that have ever lived, he's easily in the top 100 nicest.
01:26:47.000
You're like, if you tell me you don't, I've never really experienced it.
01:26:50.000
If you tell me you don't, though, then it's like, something's wrong with you.
01:26:54.000
Gerard Carmichael said that about Steve Simone.
01:27:00.000
He's gonna start a war between those two really nice guys.
01:27:04.000
Hey, Simone, I heard Gerard's talking shit about you.
01:27:08.000
This new Pope, yeah, you might think he's pretty cool, but here's what he said about Gerard Carmichael.
01:27:19.000
Sits in that regular chair, and as soon as the cameras goes off, bring me my throne!
01:27:28.000
He'll go out of your way to lock your door when he gets out of your car.
01:27:31.000
Well, he's one of those guys, you see him, you always want to hug him.
01:27:36.000
He has a podcast called Good Times with Steve Simone.
01:27:54.000
He might have done a few sets outside of that before.
01:27:55.000
I think he did a few in Philly and then came, but like only a few.
01:28:07.000
Always a good dude, no matter what was going on.
01:28:13.000
Well, you know, when things weren't going as well as they are right now, now he's doing great.
01:28:21.000
I hear tweets, like when he was releasing his album, we all retweeted his album, and all these people were talking about how funny he is.
01:28:33.000
And he's like, the stories he tells on stage are so good.
01:28:37.000
Like, he's like one of those guys, those storyteller guys that are, like, the best around at it.
01:28:47.000
And he grew that style out of that battlefield of the comedy store.
01:28:54.000
I'm gonna tell stories of childhood and fun times and beautiful things.
01:28:58.000
And I'm gonna go after some guy who's talking about going down on a girl during her period, like Tripoli, and just fucking, you know, battling against some heckler.
01:29:06.000
And then he's going to be like, well, now we're going to reset and have a great time.
01:29:16.000
Yeah, I mean, Sebastian's like, but he's hilarious.
01:29:21.000
Yep, and just, like, tearing apart, like, you know, messy people.
01:29:25.000
We were just talking about that he was shitting on, that he was like, he's against that, too?
01:29:54.000
I think I was doing stand-up in Texas and just flipped on Showtime and I watched the whole thing and I was laughing.
01:30:11.000
You guys saw a guy get that, gonna become a paid record, like a hole in the shell, then get better, then be like, okay, he can stand his own, then start getting better, and totally one of the best comics in the country.
01:30:37.000
Well, why don't you ask whoever posted it where they got it.
01:31:03.000
The morning radio thing when you're on the road, that shit does get tiresome, doesn't it?
01:31:06.000
It's just because you don't have a chance to sleep at full 4. Yeah.
01:31:12.000
I'm not tired at 10. I was going to sleep at 3.30 in the morning the last three straight weeks.
01:31:18.000
The guy from the message board actually drew it.
01:31:39.000
He started at the beginning of this podcast and he finished that right then?
01:31:43.000
He's probably been drawing you since he was a child.
01:31:48.000
A dedicated wall that's covered in yellow spackling.
01:31:58.000
He says, I drew this last year from Ari's seven minute shit sketch after failing horribly at a Joey drawing.
01:32:07.000
Yeah, it comes from a 30-frame comic called Ari Shafir's Shit Anal Lube.
01:32:22.000
It changes its meaning along the way, many times.
01:32:25.000
You gotta stay along for the ride to get the full heart.
01:32:34.000
The care he takes in that really shows how a mother and child can really love each other.
01:32:41.000
You were talking about how you tore your penis because of a lack of lubrication.
01:32:46.000
That's not a regular thing I've done, by the way.
01:32:52.000
But, with, like, someone with diarrhea, that'd probably be way more lubrication than normal.
01:32:58.000
Plus, the whole area would be super relaxed, all blown out.
01:33:22.000
I ate three times in Chinatown in San Francisco and I was shitting out full noodles.
01:33:33.000
Leaves, leaves I get, and peppers, but full noodles.
01:33:48.000
Like, look, I am running this through all my fucking natural computers, and it's coming up negative.
01:34:01.000
Dude, I want to hear you hear the sound of it plopping again.
01:34:05.000
The plopping sound is what almost got you to bar.
01:34:10.000
We're not continuing to play that plopping sound.
01:34:18.000
Somewhere in the world, someone's digging into a sewer and pulling out a big shovel full of shit.
01:34:24.000
Just doing this is cheaper than buying it at the store.
01:34:30.000
If it wasn't for gutter oil, I couldn't have bought a house.
01:34:39.000
She owns a house in the People's Republic of China.
01:34:56.000
She might have said I was about to lose my house and my children would have died and everyone would have starved to death and I had to take shit oil.
01:35:37.000
You just pointed a thing, it would cost one yen, which is about 16 cents, and it was three or four pieces of a meat.
01:35:43.000
And I don't know how to pronounce any meat or how to say any of them, so I'm like, I guess that's this.
01:35:48.000
And if you ate it and you didn't like it, you just threw the thing out, because it was 15, 16 cents.
01:35:53.000
And you eat the next one, and you're like, this one tastes good.
01:36:03.000
They said you could find it in China, but it's not really around much.
01:36:07.000
I maybe not want dog even more than I might have wanted it before, just for the experience.
01:36:14.000
They gotta kill it clean because it dumps the adrenaline.
01:36:21.000
Yeah, I've heard it as a theory, but I don't think it's correct.
01:36:46.000
He said he was racist, but some of these people were not.
01:36:58.000
What dog would you eat if you had to choose one?
01:37:06.000
I was at another restaurant, a fancy restaurant, and someone brought in a fucking emotional support dog.
01:37:13.000
A big fucking Labrador Retriever sat down next to them.
01:37:21.000
In Europe, everybody brings in some sort of restaurants.
01:37:38.000
Yeah, they probably wasted that meat in fucking that oil.
01:37:58.000
Anyway, they've been opening up fan mail because they're getting started as a podcast.
01:38:11.000
We had all gotten high and I was like, fuck yeah, give me that sugar cookie.
01:38:16.000
And then Jay was like, oh, maybe you shouldn't eat...
01:38:24.000
And he's like, no, Ari, we do, like, long segments about, like...
01:38:29.000
We've done long segments about, like, coming on food.
01:38:34.000
Like, we had, like, a whole fight about it a few weeks ago.
01:38:41.000
And then as a podcast, we're like, oh, yeah, definitely.
01:38:53.000
I was getting more nauseous as it went, but I was like, yeah, whatever.
01:38:55.000
On the other podcast you do, you have like contests.
01:39:02.000
Now, recently Josh Martin lost and you guys all had to come on a towel and he had to wash his face with this towel.
01:39:10.000
You half monkey astronaut, half Joe Rogan behind the stars?
01:39:22.000
Yeah, the bag of bets was if Sam Shipley came in the last two, it was a fantasy league.
01:39:26.000
And not only did he not come in the final two, he won the fantasy league.
01:39:32.000
We all have to jizz onto a rag, and then they have to use that rag as their morning...
01:39:37.000
They have to reapply some moisture to reactivate the jizz.
01:39:45.000
So, were you allowed to wipe it off after you wipe your face with it?
01:39:50.000
So you gotta do a little bit of wiping, and then you can wipe it off afterwards.
01:39:59.000
It's as if, you know, at the airport, on the plane's like...
01:40:10.000
I'm more sad that three people can cum on a rag that easy.
01:40:24.000
The fact that he can still shoot a load on the dying loads of his two friends.
01:40:40.000
I'm going to get there, vigorously moving it, just shaking it as fast as I can.
01:40:48.000
No, we're doing the awards ceremony at the Comedy Store patio.
01:40:55.000
Do they watch porn while they jerked off onto this thing, or do they just jerk off from memory?
01:41:03.000
We had this bet where me and Tebow bet on a round of golf.
01:41:07.000
And we put in there, loser has to watch every episode of Whitney.
01:41:27.000
I don't want to tell you what the bit is about.
01:41:29.000
I don't want to give up any of it, but it is a murderous bit.
01:41:32.000
She's got this bit that I've watched grow over the last three or four weeks.
01:41:40.000
It's really interesting to see someone just really, like, catch momentum.
01:41:46.000
If she keeps working, there's no reason why she can't become a really, really, like, great comic.
01:41:52.000
All these people that get the opportunity, like, will get you up, they usually just stop doing comedy.
01:42:01.000
I've followed her at the store like three or four times in a row.
01:42:11.000
And she's always, like, tweaking stuff and adding to stuff and changing stuff.
01:42:37.000
Like, in real life, when you talk to her, she's really friendly.
01:42:41.000
So it's like you want her to be really good, you know?
01:42:46.000
I'll tell you off the air what this bit is, because I don't want to give up what the topic of the bit is.
01:42:57.000
I've been seeing so many funny guys that I didn't even know were around at the store recently.
01:43:16.000
It's the late night sets with either Brian Holtzman or Brody Stevens.
01:43:25.000
I've stuck around and the last guy on stage in the main room does as long as they want.
01:43:30.000
And a lot of times they go on stage somewhere before 1am and they have an hour if they want to.
01:43:36.000
There's anywhere between 60 and four people in the room.
01:43:39.000
So the show starts out, there's 300 plus people, the place is mobbed, everybody goes up, Chris D'Elia kills, ba-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da, and then it gets to the end, and then Brody Stevens goes up.
01:43:51.000
I was hyperventilating, crying, laughing, and slapping the table.
01:44:11.000
If it's anywhere in Southern California, anywhere, he will tell you a Major League Baseball player who went there, and then he goes, I know him!
01:44:30.000
He'll always, like, shit on himself a little bit at the end.
01:44:52.000
His late night show the other night, it was not this past Friday night, but the one before.
01:45:04.000
He's constantly used to just completely ad-libbing in front of, like, this group of people that's waiting for a television show to be filmed.
01:45:15.000
And in between that, when they're setting things up.
01:45:23.000
But when he's so fantastic at it, one of the things he does is he has this incredible ability to make comedy out of nothing.
01:45:37.000
Like, his ability to, like, move into the crowd and just start bringing everybody together and pulling, like, little things that he said to this person, to that person.
01:45:45.000
Like, he's so used to being free when he's doing those warm-up things.
01:45:49.000
Like, constantly on, just free-flowing back and forth.
01:46:02.000
You know, but he can do that in that rhythm with that sort of...
01:46:07.000
Usually two warm guys are either rah-rah-rah or they just can't do the warm-up.
01:46:15.000
This is something Eddie found the other day, Eddie Ift.
01:46:18.000
This is what Brody used to send out to managers and comedy clubs and stuff like that.
01:46:37.000
Yeah, he makes late nights fun, especially when you're stoned.
01:46:40.000
And then you just like go in there and just laugh.
01:46:41.000
And the crowd's like half full, so it's like, oh, this is great.
01:46:47.000
I was almost like, it was like only that and Jackats 2, where I was like, I just couldn't barely hold it.
01:46:55.000
Those two guys, if you ever see them on the lineup at the Comedy Store, please go for the late night aspect of them.
01:47:01.000
I mean, go for the whole show, but stick around to the end.
01:47:05.000
It's actually when you're out, you're done out, you're finished, you're drunk.
01:47:10.000
It's like, no, midnight's at 2. It's this kind of raw, jazzy environment at the store.
01:47:14.000
So just head into the store and sober up there.
01:47:20.000
Unless it's still packed on a weekend or something.
01:47:22.000
Last night there was a million dollar car there, right?
01:47:30.000
It was all these Porsche guys with Porsche jackets.
01:47:33.000
And there was a car ahead of them too with a Porsche, a nice Porsche.
01:47:51.000
Yeah, you'd probably have to pay over a million dollars.
01:48:03.000
People are texting and barely paying attention.
01:48:10.000
Yeah, we were like then, and Simone's like, hey, look at that car.
01:48:13.000
Well, I saw a Veyron once in Hollywood, which is even more expensive.
01:48:27.000
The only thing is, like, when they open the doors, I was really expecting, like, this really cool door thing that would, like, go back and then up or something.
01:48:40.000
They're the best designers in terms of, like, the right compromise between, like, ridiculous speed and power and handling and also, like, efficiency.
01:48:54.000
But it's also like just the way they don't make things that are too extravagant.
01:48:58.000
They don't make like Lamborghini Countaches, you know, they're like this big ridiculous fire-breathing cars.
01:49:04.000
Like if they make a car, like the width, it's all about the engineering of the car.
01:49:10.000
Like what is the best way to stick to the road?
01:49:13.000
But it's interesting because they're stuck with this 911, and that's the car that has the engine in the back.
01:49:21.000
You're not really supposed to have an engine in the back.
01:49:28.000
Because they started out doing it that way back when they didn't know any better.
01:49:31.000
Yeah, and then they've sort of stuck with it because it's become a characteristic of the 911. Wow.
01:49:39.000
Is this the kind of car that Paul Walker died in?
01:49:45.000
But his was a Carrera GT. And the issue with Paul Walker's car, everybody's like, well, the car was, like, really dangerous.
01:49:54.000
According to everybody that I've talked to that's a car expert and it's not coming from me.
01:50:00.000
The real issue was that the car itself had been on the same tires for a long time.
01:50:10.000
And you have amazing horsepower and you're treating the car as if it's like a car with current tires on it.
01:50:21.000
You sound like the guys, when you're saying that though, you sound like the guys who were defending pit bulls in like the 80s.
01:50:27.000
It's not, but it's not, I know like high horsepower cars, like it's a really high horsepower car, but it's not so high horsepower that it would be dangerous.
01:50:38.000
I just heard it was going way too fast and crash.
01:50:43.000
It's got a really good balance, but it's really powerful.
01:50:48.000
And it doesn't have the same sort of, like, traction-based technology that they have in 2015. We have these weird, like, traction control, like, computers built in.
01:50:58.000
They know when one tire is, like, losing traction.
01:51:11.000
Ari Shafir, for folks who don't know what we're talking about, has gone completely back to the flip phone.
01:51:26.000
One pro is I have to charge it every three and a half days.
01:51:31.000
Obviously the reason why is because you can't do anything worth draining it for.
01:51:39.000
Two, you can do ignore without saying no on somebody.
01:51:45.000
We could just stop the ringer without saying off.
01:51:54.000
And then I'll just silence it and let it keep ringing.
01:51:59.000
You have to wait for it to finish ringing, right?
01:52:06.000
If you want to pretend that you're not ignoring that call, yeah.
01:52:16.000
I do not get upset when people send me the voicemail.
01:52:26.000
For every time you send me the voicemail, send me another time to voicemail and avoid sending Joey Diaz to voicemail because he will burn your soul.
01:52:33.000
You've got to be like, Joey, I can't talk right now.
01:52:37.000
You've got to answer and you've got to talk to him.
01:52:53.000
And when I get text messages that have picture messages, if it's any, like, look at this bet I made on a fight or something, I have to forward that to my email.
01:53:01.000
And look at it on computer because I just can't see it.
01:53:04.000
And then you have to do it forwarding on your computer from your phone to your computer.
01:53:13.000
I mean, to hit an S or to hit the number 7, you've got to go 10 times because you're going to overpass the first time.
01:53:20.000
I think it doesn't get messages also because I think I've sent you stuff before and you'd probably just never received.
01:53:34.000
For the people listening, it's about 40 pixels.
01:53:51.000
Like, if you're driving, you're like, shit, I'm fucking lost.
01:53:54.000
Oh, he said Barnett after Ohio State won the game.
01:53:56.000
Josh Barnett after Ohio State won the game, maybe?
01:53:59.000
But, like, if you're driving somewhere late at night, you're lost.
01:54:07.000
But, I already have found two new train routes that I didn't really know would work perfectly.
01:54:12.000
In the six days I was off at New York, I was like, oh, the six train goes in here and here?
01:54:18.000
You know they have the app that tells you that on Google Maps?
01:54:21.000
It tells you what it tells you, but it never tells me to take the six train, and it's right there.
01:54:26.000
I'm telling you, I've been there for a while, and it would never show me that.
01:54:31.000
I understand the map better, because you have to look and see what connects to what.
01:54:35.000
So when you miss your train, if you stop and tie your shoes and miss the one train, and you can't get a signal underground, instead of being fucked, like, which train can I take?
01:54:44.000
And you can figure it out by learning the maths, which you don't do when you have it on your phone at all times.
01:54:57.000
So you're going to go back to an iPhone 6 tonight?
01:55:13.000
And trust me, right now is the worst time for me to do this.
01:55:16.000
Because I've got a special I'm trying to promote coming out Friday.
01:55:20.000
I've got my storytellers coming out a week from Thursday.
01:55:24.000
Why don't you make a statement out there to all the technophiles and perhaps techno junkies, shall we say?
01:55:31.000
People said they couldn't live without it, but it's like, this is what we lived at seven years ago.
01:55:40.000
Do you feel like your life has been enriched by abandoning the smartphone?
01:55:47.000
The only reason people don't text while they drive anymore is because they had to make a law against it.
01:55:53.000
So the idea that everyone will control it the right amount of time is sort of ridiculous.
01:55:59.000
The battery on the iPhone 3 was minuscule compared to what the iPhone 6 is.
01:56:04.000
And it lasts the same amount of time because we're on the phone way more.
01:56:07.000
I was going to say that you should have like a phone, like a regular phone, and then an iPhone to do like social media type shit.
01:56:16.000
Then the problem is two hours in bed every morning before you get out of bed.
01:56:30.000
I think for your job and everything, you need it.
01:56:39.000
Wait a minute, you can Instagram from your computer?
01:56:46.000
So then you can, like, change shit on computers, stuff you can't do, like, on your phone, and then, like, update it right there.
01:57:09.000
I go 10 blocks in one of the most exciting cities in the world.
01:57:12.000
And I haven't looked at my surroundings at all.
01:57:19.000
There is that, but you're connected really with the circle you're already in, friendship-wise, so then you don't make new connections.
01:57:27.000
You're like, yeah, I can connect with this friend.
01:57:28.000
I'll tell him how he is on Facebook or whatever, on text.
01:57:32.000
Your body doesn't make you, like, say, oh, hey, you reading that book?
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Somewhere Dana White's just going like a teardrop.
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I mean, I knew Attel used a flip phone, and I was like, well, that makes sense.
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But then Louie was like, yeah, I went to 102. I was like, no way, really?
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I found out Dana White did it too, and I'm like, god damn.
01:58:01.000
Dana White is so good with his flip phone, he can send you a message while looking right in your eyes.
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He's like more and more like people that are like winning in life, like doing shit.
01:58:24.000
But that's what happens when you quit caffeine.
01:58:27.000
I think if you have an iPad mini, it's totally do that.
01:58:31.000
Brian's like, I think if you have a 42-inch screen that's on a wheel, it rolls in front of you everywhere you go, like handlebars.
01:58:40.000
Half of those things are just like instruments of sex.
01:58:47.000
I mean, the reason I have a Facebook fan page at all is because some woman wrote me that once, wrote me on there once, and pretty much laid it out there.
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So in a city like this where I don't have a car...
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I just looked and I was like, oh, that goes right by the Beverly Hills.
01:59:32.000
First of all, the first time, everyone's like, it's all Mexican.
01:59:36.000
There was a couple from Australia, two white people, and maybe like six or seven Mexicans, but it was other people too.
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And then the second time I took it, they were full-on homeless people on there.
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But a Tinder I deleted from my phone nine times anyway.
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And then like a month later, I'm like, oh, I just did Tinder.
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They don't have any apps that really limit your app use.
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No, they have apps that tell you, you're at your two hours, and then you're like, ignore, keep going.
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You can always go deep into your settings and say, fuck you.
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You can always double tap on that bottom button and delete those bitches.
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When you need to learn how to have a little discipline in your life.
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I got rid of cable for the same reason 10 years ago.
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It's better to have cable than to not have cable.
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You don't have to watch cable if you have cable.
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You have to constantly be glued to the fucking television.
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Now girls don't see it as a real match when you actually do match because you're fucking idiots.
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It should be something special that once you do like each other, now they're like, wow, this guy's interested in me.
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Because of you guys that are always liking everything.
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Just have a little bit of class and we can all have a nice fuck site.
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You're ruining it with your fucking lack of patience.
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The benefit of just accepting everybody is it's better odds.
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You're sticking it right in front of our faces.
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I love when you can only hear a laugh, and when someone knows, they've been like, oh yeah, good point.
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My point was just trying to show you that you can't do Tinder.
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I mean, there has to be so many things that you are actually missing.
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Tinder is one of the best examples of why I should not have a phone.
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Alright, what if something crazy happens, like, you know, like, terrorists?
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And you are, like, you know, walking in a park, and you hear all these explosions, people screaming, you go to your phone, and you're text-based, I don't know.
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Somebody's gonna be like, it's the fucking terrorists!
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I'm not going to wait and fucking enter into my fucking search engine.
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When they show up their apps, everyone's like, no, let me do it on my app.
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It's going to be one of those, like, Onion-type websites.
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They use your footage for their documentary of suckers.
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You're on the road doing a gig and you rent a car.
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Say I didn't have GPS. They all have it now if I rent a car.
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It'll be such a fun adventure trying to find your way home.
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When I was in Shanghai and I had the fucking GPS telling me exactly which public transportation direction to get there.
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I might get a GPS. How about you just have a little discipline, boy, and let us have our fucking iPhone?
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And also, by the way, you can watch my special on your iPhones.
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The reaction people give me to me saying, I'm just doing this for a while, is really similar to the reaction smokers give when you say I'm quitting smoking, when pill poppers give when you say I'm done with pills or alcohol.
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Well, people that have addictions, like if you're a coffee drinker and you go to have coffee with your friends every morning...
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Right, but when I say, no, I don't do that, then they go...
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No, but I'm saying, what I'm saying is if a guy just quit on you, stopped drinking coffee, and you meet every day, like, you're not going to have coffee?
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But it's like, come on, you're getting rid of your iPhone?
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Why don't you try going back to an iPhone like a fucking human?
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Write a rule where you can't look at your phone all day.
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I had one where I was like, I won't even, I won't check it until I go, just let me go to a coffee shop, which is like a block away from me in New York.
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Let me just go outside and then I can check it all from there.
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And I was like, well, let me check once before I go out.
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Give yourself three points in the day where you're allowed to text message.
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Are you going to tell him that about cigarettes?
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You only get three cigarettes, but then that's a good way to do it?
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And you yell at them a couple of times and you keep catching them fucking...
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But a smoker, are you going to tell them to smoke three a day?
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I would not tell you to smoke any cigarettes at all.
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But I don't think the cell phone is going to give you cancer if you check your text messages three times a day.
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Carry around a pack of cigarettes in your pocket and say don't smoke any.
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Dude, they have these programs that you can say.
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I don't really think I need any of those things besides text and email.
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My agents, I tell them, like, if you need me to follow up with something right away, you're going to have to just call me or text me and say, hey, I sent you an email.
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Because business-wise, they always feel like that anyway.
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They want you to be checking your email all day long.
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And it's weird that they don't want to talk to you on phone.
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I gotta drag my whole fucking laptop over my bed like a goddamn fucking...
02:07:52.000
Ari Shafir giving as little fucks as possible, slinging some 1996 technology.
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So Adam Eby says, like, do you have a special and a show coming out?
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It seems like that's not even the best one you can get.
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Yeah, I didn't realize that would be an issue until it was like, no fucking way, some of these are 100 contacts.
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You don't need 300. Dude, it's like for phone calls, for calling people, pretty fucking dope.
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But when you think about it, man, like, there's something satisfying about, like, going, well, you know?
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And there's no, like, pocket calls or stupid shit.
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There's no pocket texting or you open up and your phone's on Spotify.
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When I went and started doing way more sets in New York, doing three or four at night, my body reacted weird after a while.
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I was like, oh, I think there's too many spots.
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Because I was, like, not really getting the most out of them.
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And then I just overcame that, like, learning curve.
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But it just felt too many because it was twice or three times as many I was getting before.
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But then it was like, had to get used to it, and now it's like, cool, I like that.
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And now if I have one spot at night in New York, it's like, oh, come on, that's, are we wasting it?
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So a lot of these, with this phone, where it's like, oh, I gotta have that.
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Just like cigarette urges, where it's like, if you wait 10 minutes before smoking, that's a good way to quit smoking.
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If you wait 10 minutes every time you have an urge.
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And then if you still have the urge, go for it.
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I'm like, oh, I need to promote shows while I'm on the road.
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You know, I'm like going to get something to eat.
02:10:08.000
Yeah, I definitely got to be better about doing that for my computer.
02:10:15.000
And then there's sometimes you write a whole bit because you're meeting someone and you're not in your phone checking your fucking Instagram.
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You've seen all the people on stage doing jokes about apps.
02:10:30.000
I guess I use my phone for way more than just Twitter.
02:10:33.000
But you also use it for way more than just work.
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But I mean, I'm using it as my voice recorder on stage.
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I'm using it for my ways on the way home here to see which way I should drive home so I'm not wasting an extra hour in traffic.
02:10:47.000
You know, there's just so many, like, little things that...
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So when I get home, there's going to be food waiting for me.
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You know, there's so many little things that, you know...
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Yeah, but you don't have a problem with being addicted to your phone.
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You're trying to optimize the way you think, and you're trying to optimize where you focus your attention on.
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And you felt like you were spending too much time just staring at a little device, and it was taking away from the way you think, taking away from the way you interact with people.
02:11:23.000
Totally taken away from the way I interact with people.
02:11:26.000
Yeah, well, just saying that, you saying that, and, you know, taking it into consideration, it made me reconsider it.
02:11:32.000
There's this etiquette that's evolving with it now, where people are on it during dinner a lot, you know?
02:11:36.000
And then it's like, well, we don't know if you're supposed to or not, because it's such a fast-changing thing that we haven't built a fucking, a way of, a manner system around it.
02:11:46.000
It's becoming more and more like, put your phone away, it's dinner time.
02:11:49.000
right you know right right but it's like we have to develop we don't know it's just getting it's busier and busier and all the time and yeah it takes you away from who who you're around isn't that what hipsters say isn't that what the whole thing that a hipster is what it's like against the you know that's not hipster yeah it is what's the term of hipster right that's exactly the term of it against the norm what are you thinking about goths also and about like all those groups are against like the norm Yeah,
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I mean, hipsters are just one of those groups that's sort of...
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Well, they're just fighting against what they think is like a staid and boring standard.
02:12:26.000
But yeah, fighting against the currently accepted dress codes and all that shit.
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There's something to like, you know how when you're on stage and you can't think of a joke and you're just like doing it anyway but you need an ending and the panic in your mind will force you to create an ending right then?
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If you don't have your phone to go to when you're in an uncomfortable social situation, you'll feel that uncomfort level for a while and then your body will like, I don't like feeling this way.
02:12:51.000
So instead of going to my phone, that was a way out.
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Now it's like, oh hey, you're a Raiders fan too?
02:13:00.000
Just something to get out of this uncomfortable thing.
02:13:04.000
I just met somebody and hung out with them and tried to make a new friend.
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Tweeting up a storm and Facebooking up the joint.
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It's like their community of friends of friends that you're like, I don't even know most of these people.
02:13:33.000
Most people don't know most of their Facebook friends.
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What do you think about the potential for virtual realities online?
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Have you seen the new version or the old version?
02:13:58.000
But he called me at the improv one night with fever depression.
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Dude, this is fucking bigger than the internet!
02:14:12.000
He told me about this Oculus Rift where this guy goes into this room and it's all in like 4K HD and he said you really feel like you're in this room and you walk up to a piano and you interact with this guy that's at the piano and he's like it is a mind fuck.
02:14:27.000
He said it's so stunning and so realistic that it just makes you realize oh my god this is like If technology, inevitably, we all agree, is going to continue to get better.
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I mean, we've all experienced nothing but that in our life.
02:14:41.000
There's been some bottlenecks along the way, but people always figure out some new power source or some new battery supply.
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We assume that they're going to keep doing that.
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And if they keep doing that, if they're at that now, in 2015, this insanely fucking rich, high-definition, Oculus Rift where you're looking around, it almost feels like you're in the room.
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Apparently, the way they filmed it, they put cameras all over the guy.
02:15:08.000
So, like, everywhere you look, like, they have, like, an image for that.
02:15:12.000
Like, you can look down, you can look up, you can look at the sky, you can walk through the room and look behind you.
02:15:16.000
Like, you're walking into it like it's a three-dimensional environment.
02:15:20.000
And they're going to be able to do that with these, they have these, like, circular treadmills.
02:15:26.000
So it's like the holosuite from Star Wars, Star Trek.
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You put the headgear on, and you run around on this multi-directional treadmill.
02:15:37.000
The treadmill goes left and right and back and forth, and as you're moving around on it, eventually you get a groove with what you're seeing in your headset and what you're feeling when you're running around, and you're running through this artificial world.
02:15:54.000
Yeah, then what are the long-term effects of that?
02:16:05.000
That's what they kept saying in South Park, too.
02:16:07.000
Yeah, some people have a really hard time with car sickness and shit.
02:16:11.000
You don't know which way it's going, or you look down, and it looks a little bit less down than you're looking.
02:16:15.000
Yeah, I have one and it kind of makes me, after like a good three minutes, I'm like, alright, I gotta take it off.
02:16:21.000
So if you look down, then you look into there, but then you look further down with your eyeballs, you know?
02:16:25.000
But it just reads that your head is going down.
02:16:28.000
Because when I'm in a front seat on Laurel Canyon and not driving, I don't know when it's going to turn right or left.
02:16:34.000
What they're going to do eventually, they're going to be able to 3D map your body, and you're going to be able to just show up, like kick in the door of an orgy, and chicks are just going to hop onto your dick, and you're going to feel it.
02:16:48.000
You're going to feel them touching your body, feel them touching, you're going to go into this thing with electrodes placed in various spots in your head.
02:16:55.000
I mean, if you make it perfectly real, perfectly real, where your body can't tell a difference, then...
02:17:00.000
I mean, you're not really going to have a reason to leave.
02:17:01.000
The only reason to leave and see the outside world is because, like, well, you can't replace reality.
02:17:05.000
But if you can replace reality, then it's like, really, there's no difference.
02:17:09.000
You would want to live in somewhere that really sucks.
02:17:16.000
You want just to appreciate the reality difference between what this artificial world is that you have in your little computer setup and what the real world is outside.
02:17:25.000
I wonder if you get happiness getting sun in the artificial world.
02:17:28.000
If I would fill you with vitamin D. Sun while you're getting blown on the beach.
02:17:36.000
You've got it wrapped around your wrist several times.
02:17:53.000
I mean, if we really do come up with some sort of technology that replicates that, I mean, what incentive do people have to engage in regular life?
02:18:02.000
So let's just assume they're going to stop, because I don't see a reason why they would.
02:18:07.000
To think that you could create an artificial world that would be so intoxicating...
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That people wouldn't want to participate in the regular world.
02:18:15.000
As soon as this podcast ends, you both, all three of you, and I would have too, are going to bury yourself in your phone for the next 30 minutes.
02:18:26.000
You feel a nagging at you at all times too, right?
02:18:33.000
I'm getting way better at putting it down, just leaving it somewhere.
02:18:40.000
If someone texts you and they'll text you three hours later or not, Like, sorry, I just got back to my phone.
02:18:48.000
I don't want to be always available at all times.
02:18:52.000
People, like, don't even give you time for that.
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I plug it in and just, like, drop it off, and I forget I even have it on.
02:18:59.000
And I know you promote shows, and you promote shows, and I promote shows, and, you know, like, you...
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You can use that as an excuse, but I think there's something very admirable about what you're doing.
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I think there's some wisdom in what you're doing, too.
02:19:16.000
I think to have both is the move, but to give that to your closest friends, I think that's the move.
02:19:23.000
So when you have to do some horseshit, you know, you got to do some fucking tax problems, you got to call on a...
02:19:34.000
But all your friends, your actual real social interactions, if you put someone in your regular flip phone, you really care about them.
02:19:40.000
You just keep this in your car, just in case if you need to drive or go see a good restaurant's near.
02:19:45.000
I keep it in my car, so I couldn't even use it in my bed.
02:19:48.000
Yeah, and you keep that on you, so just to make...
02:19:50.000
Maybe I'll plug the battery into the thing and then superglue that.
02:19:55.000
So I literally cannot unplug it from the car charger ever again.
02:20:03.000
I mean, you could always, like, break it loose and go, some fucking asshole superglued my charger to my phone.
02:20:12.000
But that'd be too hard to get on right then to go on Twitter.
02:20:15.000
They probably have a Kensington lock or a case that has a Kensington lock, which is just a case that you can just connect it to, like, a wire.
02:20:24.000
Kind of what they use as displays at Apple stores where you can't steal it.
02:20:29.000
Oh, like it glues to it and it clamps on the outside of it.
02:20:33.000
Yeah, I guess if they have them at Best Buy, they would have to be able to sell them to regular people.
02:20:38.000
It's not like it's government secrets or some shit.
02:20:47.000
Great, let's go to an Apple store after here and we'll get you an iPhone.
02:20:52.000
The care, the care that I need to get in the game.
02:21:04.000
Oh, there's the button where I can track my friends at all times.
02:21:07.000
That was one of the, there's several things that stand out as being ridiculous to call racist.
02:21:14.000
One of them was, do you know what happened with Margaret Cho at the Golden Globes?
02:21:18.000
Margaret Cho at the Golden Globes played Kim Jong-un's publicist from North Korea.
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She put, like, white face on, like, put on, like, pale makeup, and, like, played the dictator, or a dictator, or someone who works for the dictator, right?
02:21:49.000
Not only that, she's a mixed North Korean and South Korean.
02:21:57.000
They are just sweaty trigger fingers ready to be offended.
02:22:08.000
Murdering people because they're black, that's racist.
02:22:10.000
Just saying, I hate black people, you haven't done anything to the world.
02:22:16.000
Go after people who are actually doing something.
02:22:26.000
But you can't not hire black people at your company.
02:22:32.000
Yeah, but you don't want a hostile work environment.
02:22:34.000
No, you don't want someone who's going up to people and saying, fuck you, chink.
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Obviously, I chose chink because the other one's going to be too divisive.
02:22:47.000
You don't want that, but if someone wants to think that, then fucking fine.
02:22:57.000
I don't want fucking Raiders fans around me either.
02:23:00.000
Okay, Ari, if you start a factory, you're producing Ari Shafir t-shirts, and you're in that office all day long, and you choose to answer the phone because you want to take care of this business correct, and you hire two guys, and one of them turns out to be racist, and every day he says a bunch of stupid racist shit, and he poisons the environment.
02:23:20.000
No, if they say something at home and I find out they say something later outside of office hours at home, then no, that's not a problem for my office.
02:23:30.000
It's legal to do this very outspokenly racist thing.
02:23:34.000
You know the Klan is trying to invite Puerto Ricans in?
02:23:57.000
Well, I think they're trying to say this is the new plan.
02:23:59.000
All it does to vilify people that say racist things is make it so that no one can speak.
02:24:17.000
Man, you would really have to hate other black people to join the KKK as a black guy.
02:24:28.000
Well, in this time, I guess I should tell you guys that starting a week from Thursday, my storyteller show, This Is Not Happening, is on every night after At Midnight.
02:24:37.000
People who do it include, from this podcast, Joe Rogan and me.
02:24:58.000
I think you're going to see a full episode right now if you go to the Comedy Central app or Comedy Central stand-up app.
02:25:02.000
I got to tell you, I like the classic jacket you're wearing there.
02:25:09.000
They told me I had to break out one outfit the whole time.
02:25:19.000
I had a third, but that was like, move out to LA, find a real job.
02:25:30.000
Yeah, there's like a few different cuts you can choose.
02:25:46.000
I remember when you were a doorman at the Comedy Store, now you're an international motherfucking baller.
02:25:51.000
A true American success story, ladies and gentlemen.
02:25:59.000
Yeah, are you excited to have your special play?
02:26:03.000
The people who listen to this podcast are the reason I was able to do that.
02:26:07.000
Comedy Central would even come up to a guy like me.
02:26:12.000
I can try to be as good as I want, but if I'm an outsider, which I was, that's it.
02:26:19.000
You know, this is the, like, these kind of shows, internet shows, where there's no network behind it.
02:26:26.000
You know, the last bridge between just straight comics.
02:26:30.000
So people found me, and that's great, and they put the money behind it, do a cool special at the comedy store, make it look all cool.
02:26:43.000
I mean, it's so obviously the OR, but yet with like a little twist to it with those lights behind you.
02:27:13.000
I mean, like, if it's not all there and you're like, oh, that should have worked.
02:27:19.000
Well, it just forces you into that position where you really got to try hard to find the right words.
02:27:24.000
And, like, that's one of the things that I was talking about earlier about this time that we're in right now.
02:27:28.000
One of the cool things about it is that there's so many other really funny guys around that we're all feeding off each other, and you get inspired by each other.
02:27:36.000
So, like, everything is sort of ramped up, and even in your mind, like, all your connections to comedy, your ideas are sort of ramped up because there's all these really good guys around you all the time.
02:27:48.000
I think that's huge for any sort of artistic...
02:27:54.000
Once you see the bar set all high, it's like, well, that's what I should be aiming for.
02:27:57.000
If you fall short of that, which you will in the beginning anyway, then it's like you're falling short at a 50th percentile.
02:28:04.000
If you fall barely short, you're still 39. Well, I think also one of the things that we sort of exhibited after I left the Comedy Store and when we started doing a lot of shit on the internet and started doing this podcast is that we're all sort of like banding together.
02:28:23.000
Like there's a group of comedians that are all banding together.
02:28:27.000
And the more everybody else does good, the more everybody else does good.
02:28:39.000
And it's getting to this really interesting pitch.
02:28:43.000
And if you look at great communities of musicians, great communities of comics, like the old Boston days that everybody always talks about, I think this day right now is the heyday.
02:29:01.000
Without any of us in this room, when I look, just extract us from the equation, just look at all the...
02:29:05.000
If you were just a comedy fan that was an insurance salesman or whatever, this is maybe the best time ever.
02:29:14.000
And one of those guys has a special premiering Friday the 16th at midnight, 1159, and his storyteller show premiering January 22nd at...
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But you should just buy it and get the extra footage of Ari Schaeffer the Great.
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Yeah, but some people just don't open up the e-wallets that way.
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If you're not a buyer, then you're not a buyer.
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How do you feel about people pirating the GNA? Is that ultra insulting?
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Why would it be insulting if someone said, Hey everybody, look at this awesome thing!
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Because they're pirating your Jew in A. Do you not understand what I'm saying?
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You don't have this attitude, like, trying to maximize your income.
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So if you don't get by the download, how else are you going to see it?
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Other than somebody fucking doing something with it.
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Somebody saying, hey, you should come see this.
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That's the way people, you know, the old wrestling tapes were like that.
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Let me show you all this wrestling match you didn't know about.
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That's how you fucking, that's why I just did a wrestling thing with wrestling.
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People used to trade tapes because the regional ones were on local TV. Oh, good lord.
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So people would have old tapes and like, oh, look at this guy's moves.
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I couldn't put up my own hotel set because Viacom would have kept taking it down.
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Yeah, I think people are under the impression that if something's online, they won't watch the television as much.
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You know, Bo Burnham released his special on Netflix and YouTube.
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I know, but the people who watch shit like that on YouTube are not the kind of people who watch...
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There's a little overlap, but they're sort of separate.
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I watch concerts online, and also overall for ticket sales.
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Well, there's also enough people that spend that seven bucks a month every month on Netflix, and it's just as easy to get it through Netflix.
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Like, there's so many options of things that you can watch if you watch something like Netflix.
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Why are you showing the same commercial three times in an episode?
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Like if you're watching The Walking Dead or something like that, that's really spooky and creepy and quiet.
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All these networks have this very specific, like, this is what we want our network to be, to be about.
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That's why nobody plays commercials on podcasts.
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But if you want to watch like a television show...
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If you want to watch a television show on A&E that's also available on iTunes, you're going to have to watch with commercials.
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That will be in the future what we think of as Blockbuster video right now.
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Like the idea of going to Blockbuster and getting a video is so alien right now.
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Like unless you're like in Hawaii, you know, and you're staying in a room that has a DVD player.
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A lot of people do that red box, but that's like middle America.
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I mean, they go to the grocery store, they can pick up a movie.
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Some interviewer asked me, like, what do I think about the standards?
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I'm like, they're not for the people who would like me.
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Yeah, like, you know how to say these words or something like that, you know?
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But, like, anyone who would become a fan of mine wouldn't care about those rules.
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So for me to say fuck or for me to say something gross, it's like, none of my fans will care.
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Yeah, the idea that you're gonna, like, cut out...
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There's plenty of dummies out there that don't want to hear you swearing.
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That would be offended by certain subject matter.
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That's the thing that people aren't considering.
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That people never considered when they were giving advice to comics back in the day.
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The pie has 300 million possible people in this country.
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Five or ten dollars to get my special paid regular that's out right now at reshapir.com.
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I'm trying to arrange with Comedy Central, too, so we're trying to get this, like, algorithm or just based on, like, because they're, like, starting a new system, and they're pretty cool.
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They're like, all right, you've done this online before?
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And I was like, yeah, when someone buys a Joe Rogan special, after that, it said you might also like, and then you got to tell...
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Find some names of guys, like Segura's Half Hour or My Hour.
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And then if you like me, then after you watch that, like, here's some other people you might like.
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Like, have it, don't say it three times, it'll show up.
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So they're trying to build something like that for their website.
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Him and Ralphie Mae head to head for one and two, right?
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I was just in the beginning, like when they were trying out to be on the show.
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They don't reject you or accept you right there.
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He got skin cancer and he got a big chunk taken out of his back.
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Maybe, what if we found out that Satan fucked him in the ass and shot his demon load on his neck.
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If we found out that Jeremiah's just tired of being on the periphery.
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It just needs to do what a lot of these other guys have done.
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Satan's like, I'm just going to put the tip in.
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I don't need to do much because you're very talented already.
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It's hard to relax when you're talking to me like that.
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You hear the fluttering of his wings as he shoots his hot load on your back.
02:39:03.000
Well, if it's 11.59, that means that it's uncensored, correct?
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Oh, so they don't put bleeps over the cuss words there?
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Yeah, and then the following week, January 22nd, Thursday, and every Thursday after that, This Is Not Happening premieres, the first one's with me, Bobby Lee, Keegan-Michael Key.
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Chrysler's on the second one, and the intro to the second one is amazing.
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Jim Tomczyk, that guy who did the intros, did eight different intros for eight episodes.
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I love the fact that you're doing it in that weird little strip joint place, too.
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Like, I think the vibe of that place, like, helps those shows.
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Because it's not a comedy club where you demand, like...
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Yeah, and you're having a lot of people that come on that aren't even comics.
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Yeah, January 14th, we will all be at the Comedy Store for Sam Trisley's Naughty Show.
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I don't know if he was supposed to fight Benson.
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He was supposed to fight somebody, though, right?
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Yes, he was supposed to be, but I believe he got injured.
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Only reason to come into the Valley is to do the Joe Rogan Experience podcast.