Comedian and actor Josh McDermott joins Jemele to discuss how he got his start in comedy and how he ended up on the hit TV show, The Walking Dead. He also talks about how he went from being a radio host to becoming a stand-up comic, and why he thinks Russell Crowe should play Bill Hicks in the new Bill Hicks biopic. Plus, he gives us a run down of some of the funniest things he's seen on the set of The Office and gives us the inside scoop on what it's like working with Ryan Reynolds on Top Gun: Modern Family. And, of course, we talk about his new movie, Bill Hicks: Life on the Line, which is coming to theaters this fall. Thanks to our sponsor, Caff Monster Energy Drink! and to everyone else who helped make this podcast possible! Thank you so much to everyone who's been a part of this journey with us, and thank you for all the support, love, support, and support! we really appreciate it. -Jon Sorrentino and -Jemele is a big thank you to all the people who've been supporting us, supporting us and making this podcast a great podcast. and we're looking forward to seeing you all in the future. Thank you to everyone we've gotten to know us and supporting us on this journey together! - Jon and Jemele and the rest of the crew! Cheers, EJ & Brian . -EJ & EJ and EJ (and EJ (and the rest! ) ! Jon & Brian (and all the crew at CFA. ( ) (Jon) (Chad) , EJ, Matt (and everyone else at CFF & the rest at CFS (EJ) and EK (and our team at the CFA AND EJE (JOSH McDermott ) -JOSH (JODA) . (JACOB (JOSEPH) (JAMIE) ( ) & JACOM (JORDY (JON AND JOSH ( ) (JODY ( ) AND JOSIE) & JOSH MCDORDS (JANIE ( ) and JOSH GARDS ( ) - JOSH MILLER (JAMES ( ) )
00:01:43.000Like Rogan's just going to be like, man, these guys fucking suck.
00:01:46.000Like he's going to talk trash about us or whatever.
00:01:49.000More and more people keep leaving as the show's going on to the point that it's like a 500-seat theater and there's like 30 people left by the time I get up.
00:01:57.000And I didn't give a shit at that point.
00:02:00.000And literally, I heard you laughing the loudest in the back at my set.
00:02:03.000And I'm like, well, that's a victory, I guess.
00:02:05.000And then I got to go to the festival and that was fun and everything.
00:02:08.000But you literally asked me, you're like, hey, you want to open for me the rest of the weekend?
00:02:12.000And that just kind of set me on this path.
00:02:14.000To come to LA and pursue acting and to continue to do stand-up and all that, dude.
00:02:18.000Like, I don't know how much you realize, like, how important you've been to me, man.
00:04:00.000I mean, you know, there's this guy, Mark Schultz, and he was the Olympic wrestler that his brother, Dave Schultz, got killed by that guy, John DuPont, that crazy millionaire, billionaire guy in Connecticut.
00:05:29.000He would go in front of these courts and they would do his act.
00:05:34.000They would read his act out loud, like the words that he said, and then convict him for these profanity charges.
00:05:41.000I mean, that guy really fucking paved the path.
00:05:43.000If it wasn't for him, you and I wouldn't be here.
00:05:46.000I mean, if it wasn't for the guys like him and George Carlin, the guys that actually went to jail for saying words that we say on a regular basis.
00:08:14.000And, you know, it's fun to play a different character in this world where like...
00:08:20.000Obviously, you've got guys like Daryl or Michonne who are just epic badasses, and obviously those people are probably going to rise to the top in this world.
00:08:28.000Just people who are physically fit and can just do whatever they have to do to survive.
00:08:33.000This guy is completely opposite, and that's what becomes fun about playing him is that you just wouldn't expect that.
00:08:40.000I have a theory that if the apocalypse happened, most people would be more like Eugene than they would like Daryl.
00:09:15.000I mean, they'll just create brand new storylines for people.
00:09:18.000Again, if you haven't watched this last weekend's episode, there was a major character death, but his death, you know, he dies in the comics, but the death on the show was not how they did it in the comics.
00:09:29.000There was another character that that guy's death was this guy from last weekend's death in the comics, and it just gets mixed around.
00:09:39.000But with, so I knew that, you know, when I took the job, I knew the big reveals that my character would have.
00:09:47.000And this is weird to be talking about it in vague terms.
00:09:49.000I feel like if you haven't seen it by now.
00:09:51.000Yeah, fuck you if you haven't seen it by now.
00:09:55.000So we find out Eugene was lying about knowing the cure, but the moment, because I came out on season four, I knew that he was lying the whole time.
00:11:15.000The guy who runs our show now, Scott Gimple, he...
00:11:18.000And I don't really pay attention to who writes episodes.
00:11:21.000I'm just like, oh, it's my favorite episode, but I'm not looking up who wrote it.
00:11:25.000So I started going back and looking at my favorite episodes, and I found out who wrote it, and it was Scott Gimple.
00:11:30.000So my favorite episodes from season three was that episode Clear, where they're in that dude's apartment, and he's got all the writing on the wall, and he's gone absolutely crazy.
00:11:45.000And then the other favorite episode of mine was when Sophia, the little girl, came out of the barn and she was a zombie and they had to kill her.
00:11:53.000And it's like, he wrote that episode and I'm like, okay, so this guy running the show now has written my favorite episodes all along.
00:12:00.000And it's like, he's like the best guy to be running the show because you're right.
00:12:03.000I think, you know, it did kind of take a dip.
00:12:05.000It was still a good show, but it just kind of like plateaued for a moment.
00:12:48.000Did some fuckhead producer weasel his way into a position of power and start manipulating shit and trying to turn it into another episode of Coach or something like that?
00:13:00.000It felt like something happened like that.
00:13:02.000Like it just became like a regular show.
00:13:05.000I don't know the specifics, but Frank Darabont, you know, Shawshank Redemption is a great Hollywood screenwriter and director.
00:13:12.000You develop the show from the comics and then he was in charge of it the first two seasons but then he left after the second season and so it's about the third season that they kind of went over some rocky terrain like you know they did there were some great episodes and my favorite episode is in season three but there they just didn't really hit it was very inconsistent and so then when Scott Gable took over season four it just took right off took right off it's amazing now god damn it's a good show He's,
00:13:42.000you know, because I think just as, when I'm watching it as a fan, I would, it would kind of get boring at times where I'd be like, oh, okay, like, they run out of supplies, and they're going to go on a run, and oh, this zombie pops out, kill it, and then, you know, rinse, repeat, whatever.
00:13:56.000So, but now they're, like, really developing the characters and, like, bringing them, you know, we're learning so much more about them, it's like, Freaking great.
00:14:03.000Well, it makes me nervous every time there's a new scene.
00:14:52.000The great thing about that bite was that it happened like 20 minutes into the episode as opposed to like sometimes they'll wait till the very end and it's like oh no and then the episode ends.
00:15:02.000He gets bit and then he has these hallucinogenic dreams and all this about these past characters are coming back and all this stuff.
00:15:12.000Robert Kirkman, the guy who created the comics was saying it's going to be a fan favorite episode and it's going to be a fan hated episode because it's a very poetic type of Uh, episode that they wrote.
00:15:46.000I guess he went to, like, University of Virginia or something, and they're...
00:15:49.000There's some school in Virginia, and they're doing away with SAT scores.
00:15:53.000They're only going to focus on the GPA now.
00:15:56.000And then he retweets it and puts at the front, oh, hell yeah, my Alma Marta.
00:16:02.000Marta, M-A-R-D-A? You don't know if he's kidding or not, but we were over at the table where they keep all the food one day when we were filming, and he's just going, yeah, yeah.
00:16:44.000It ends for you, and you sit back, and you're watching it as it's still on television, you watch some of the guys you worked with, you know, and occasionally they bring you back for some dream sequence.
00:18:50.000That whole arc, that story arc between him and Rick was a suck.
00:18:55.000I've done just as many episodes as him.
00:18:57.000Now, granted, he was at the forefront with the storylines and stuff, but I've done just as many episodes, but he is just at this other level.
00:19:28.000Together, we've done the same amount of episodes, but he's just at this other level in terms of how people remember him and the character and all that.
00:23:44.000I felt like that chick would have lasted about an hour where somebody punched her in the face, took her gun, shot her in the head, fucked her dead body, threw her off the top of the roof.
00:24:35.000Yeah, there was a few bad guys and a few moments that I just thought were ridiculous, but it's the overall quality of the show.
00:24:44.000It keeps surprising you, and it keeps drawing you in, and it just keeps making you think, like, what would you do if you were stuck in that kind of a scenario?
00:24:53.000Would you just climb to the highest building and just close your eyes and fucking jump off?
00:25:40.000One of the things is I watch it on Apple TV, which is the only way to watch it.
00:25:48.000Watching it on AMC, it's like you just want to fucking drive to wherever the people are who put the commercials in and go, hey, fucking stop!
00:26:11.000It's fucking so distracting and so uncomfortable when you realize that they're shoving in 18 minutes of fucking commercials in a one-hour show.
00:27:25.000And there's no way that it would work if it was non-intrusive.
00:27:28.000You know, if you see some people that are fucking starving to death and they find a can of Coke and they drink it and they're sharing it back and forth, it's not going to make you want to go out and buy a Coke.
00:28:02.000Did y'all ever see, like, the Honest Trailers, that YouTube channel where they do Honest Trailers of movies and TV shows, and they did one for The Walking Dead where they just, like, pick it apart?
00:28:12.000But one of the things they were talking about was, like, they were driving around, like, a Hyundai Tucson for a while, and it was always, like, this is the apocalypse, so everything's filthy, there's, like, a gross film on things, but the Hyundai Tucson was, like...
00:28:25.000They're just cruising through the woods in this thing.
00:28:28.000Me, personally, I never thought about it.
00:28:30.000I was never like, oh, I should go buy a Tucson or something.
00:28:33.000But not until I saw that trailer, I was like, oh, I guess that was product placement.
00:28:37.000It had to be, if they're making it clean.
00:28:39.000There was one episode, I remember, where we were talking about it.
00:28:41.000We were like, why are these cars clean?
00:28:44.000I mean, even when it rains, it doesn't really clean your car that good, you know?
00:28:48.000I mean, you don't have to fucking have a torrential downpour to do a half-assed job of cleaning your car, because bird shit, dirt, it just kind of gets, like, moved around on it.
00:30:21.000Like, I just watched it because my girlfriend wanted to watch it, and that's the only reason I watched it.
00:30:27.000And I kind of got addicted to it, kind of like in a Gilmore Girls kind of way, where you're like, oh, I know all the characters, so it's still fun to watch.
00:30:53.000I guess it's coming back for their final season.
00:30:55.000I did a couple episodes of that, and it was kind of neat to be in that world and everything, but it was one of those shows where you kind of hated a bunch of the characters at first, and you liked some others, and then by season three, that reversed.
00:31:10.000The people you liked, you now hated, and the people you hated, you now liked.
00:31:13.000They kind of went through these crazy evolutions, and you know...
00:31:16.000I think kind of like any show, I mean, it has its moments where you're like, okay, maybe I'll skip this episode.
00:32:04.000No, but I mean for I think for women like to have breasts that are that large is probably really...
00:32:08.000I know it's really difficult on your back.
00:32:11.000I dated a girl who had a breast reduction because her boobs are so big.
00:32:14.000She was born just like with really large breasts and her back always hurt and then she got her breasts reduced and she was like it's like the world took a weight off her shoulders.
00:35:18.000You really believe that he was this guy with no character that had been handed everything to him in his life and he just didn't understand.
00:36:06.000It was really weird the way they did the movie.
00:36:09.000Because they could have easily had him fight the guy that he fought in the UFC in the movie, but instead they made up some guy, made him fight a white guy.
00:36:22.000It happened in 1996. It's a fucking historical fact.
00:36:25.000But in this stupid fucking movie, it was a different guy, and the UFC took place, like when he was watching it on television, was in like 87 or 88. They fucked with everything in that movie.
00:37:51.000But maybe, I mean, I'm not justifying it, but maybe when there's just millions and millions and millions of dollars on the line, people start overthinking it.
00:37:59.000There's too many cooks in the kitchen and, ah, we've got to have them fight a white guy.
00:39:33.000It's kind of sad that then, you know, you get a small thing.
00:39:37.000I don't want to say Game of Thrones is small, but it's like, you know, how is it that that, like you said, is able to be something so perfect, be something...
00:40:15.000It's like, you can think of a million shitbag sitcoms and NBC fucking diarrhea'd out onto America.
00:40:22.000You know, you could literally, you could just sit down with a pen and paper and write down how many CBS shows made you want to open up a fucking vein.
00:42:15.000Being a Hollywood insider, too, do you get people that are coming up to you now because you're on The Walking Dead and go, hey, man, I got this script.
00:42:24.000I mean, if you could just get it to those guys that wrote a speck.
00:43:14.000Yeah, I mean, it scares me a little bit, but I just was getting so burned out on it about doing stand-up in L.A. And I would go on the road, and I would love being on the road, and you get to do a real show, and you get to work on new material,
00:45:44.000I've seen at the comedy store literally a whole table full of people, especially if you watch in the back, that are just sitting there like this with their arms crossed.
00:46:56.000It becomes a human nature thing that we want to, like, pick apart other people and their successes, but it's, like, heightened when you're in Los Angeles and you're just constantly bombarded with people doing what you're setting out to do.
00:47:06.000And maybe, you know, you're reminded of your failures and that sort of thing.
00:47:33.000You definitely get people that, for some reason, resent you for going to the audition, getting on the show, and they're watching you on television, and they've seen you in real life, and they're like, man, that would've been the perfect show for me.
00:47:49.000For the most part, though, the fans have been great, but there are those guys, those people, just like, at least centered in Los Angeles, where you're just like, you know, you encounter them and they are completely negative and, oh, I could have done that, you know, whatever, whatever.
00:48:03.000But, you know, when I say I didn't miss it, it's not that, you know, it's not like I was just sitting on my couch.
00:48:08.000I was doing something really fun, you know, so I was like, it's not like I had this thing tugging me.
00:48:13.000I had like an open invitation to go do the clubs in Atlanta.
00:48:18.000When I was living there, and I just never was able to make it.
00:49:27.000Yeah, so right now he's growing it out like in a beard.
00:49:30.000So when you get to the end of the season, how much time do you guys have between you wrapped for the season and how much down time do you have?
00:49:40.000Oh, we wrapped in like right the week before Thanksgiving, so November, and then the show doesn't come back until late April.
00:49:48.000And so do you have like a contract clause?
00:49:50.000Like you can't gain weight, you can't shave your head, you can't...
00:52:39.000I mean, a lot of it has to be diet, but it's very clear that some people can eat anything they fucking want and never gain any weight at all.
00:52:47.000Well, they show these kids on Maury Povich where he's like trying to confront the parents of these obese children.
00:52:53.000And then they just like have the kid in the green room and they set a camera on him and there's this giant bowl of Cheetos.
00:52:59.000And the kid's two years old and he weighs 80 pounds and he's just like wolfing down Cheetos.
00:53:03.000And it's like, that's like every day for them.
00:53:08.000Most of the American snacks that you buy, like Cheetos and Doritos and all that stuff, they're filled with hydrogenated oils and fucking fats that your body has a really hard time digesting and artificial colors.
00:53:24.000Your body's like, what the fuck is the diarrhea?
00:53:28.000Your body just has no idea what to do with it all.
00:55:03.000I have the biggest problem with all that stuff.
00:55:05.000Kevin James brought a fucking trailer on one of his movies, and the trailer, it was like a regular big moving trailer, and it was filled with exercise equipment.
00:55:16.000Oh, I thought you were going to say it was like food, man.
00:55:20.000Just ho-hos and ring-dings and fucking donuts and shit.
00:58:19.000He was literally at his skinniest he's ever been in any of his movies.
00:58:24.000When he was doing that movie, I was talking to the guy who wrote that and was one of the producers...
00:58:29.000And he said every day they would go in, you know, break into his hotel room while he's on set and steal all the, like, food that he had taken from the set.
00:58:44.000And they're, like, they had to literally take that stuff away from him so that he wouldn't eat it and, like, yo-yo his weight while they were shooting out of sequence or whatever.
01:00:58.000Racism stops and dies down to the point where it's no longer addressed.
01:01:02.000Because it's so fucking annoying watching shows that are so clearly in response to the brownie points you're going to get, the social brownie points you're going to get for showing diversity.
01:01:13.000It's not that diversity was important because it needs to be done.
01:01:20.000It's almost like it's done just to kind of like score.
01:01:24.000You know, it's done to like, look what we've done.
01:01:26.000Look, we've got a woman and she's Asian and she runs the show.
01:01:31.000There's a black woman president on our show.
01:01:34.000The president of the United States is black and it's a woman on our show.
01:05:55.000Someone was playing a character at a Halloween party and they put blackface on and they got fired from their job because you can't pretend to be a black person.
01:06:09.000You cannot have black person makeup on if you are a white person.
01:06:14.000I successfully did it because I was a black wizard though.
01:06:17.000No, you didn't successfully do it, dude.
01:06:24.000No, I mean, I went to parties and no one ever said anything because I was playing almost like a superhero kind of character, you know, but it was a black face.
01:06:42.000What I'm saying is that there was a company, and they had a party, and they had a Halloween party, and this guy showed up in blackface, and they fired him.
01:06:49.000And it was this issue, like, come on, man.
01:06:51.000He's playing like Mr. T. He had gold chains on and everything, and he put black skin-colored makeup on.
01:07:13.000And when you say this, and I've said this before on the podcast, people will fucking freak out, and the ultra-sensitive social justice warrior types will start tweeting you.
01:09:48.000I mean, look, racism is absolutely disgusting, but you give a lot of people a lot of power when you allow them, you know, when you get so upset.
01:10:22.000So why would taking makeup and turning your skin black be bad?
01:10:27.000I get there's a racist context to it, but when does that dissolve?
01:10:31.000I mean, at one point in time, do we culturally just step back and say, like, that's ridiculous.
01:10:36.000Somebody wants to be fucking Mr. T. If you're black, and you're hanging around with a bunch of white people, and they're legitimately your friends, and you love them, and one of them decides to be Mr. T for Halloween, and shows up with a bunch of gold chains, he's got a mohawk on, and he's got blackface on.
01:11:01.000But someone playing another race by putting makeup on their skin, the only way that would be negative at all, the only way, is if there was something wrong with being that race.
01:11:12.000There's clearly nothing wrong with being a black person.
01:11:14.000So someone who's white, putting black makeup on, it's not like they're...
01:11:17.000It's not like they're doing Al Jolson, and they're putting white around their lips, and black, and they're...
01:11:23.000They're doing some sort of a fucking...
01:12:06.000You know, like if you have a different opinion about Ferguson or about, you know, Economics or Al Sharpton or anything that involves a black person, instantaneously your argument's diffused if they call you racist.
01:12:22.000Well, Josh McDermott, you're a racist.
01:12:24.000Well, you're from Phoenix, Arizona, one of the most racist states.
01:13:15.000Well, I mean, it was offensive at one point in time, especially because at one point in time, that was the only way you saw black people represented on TV. It was a white person playing a black person, or in movies.
01:14:48.000Jamie, pull it up and put it on this screen so only we see it, so we don't get pulled from YouTube.
01:14:54.000If you have videos that people have copyright on them and you play them and then you upload it, even from a podcast where you're talking about it, you play it on YouTube, they pull it.
01:16:35.000Because that bitch is probably running stairs every day, doing yoga, getting her face sandblasted, you know, getting stem cells from aborted fetuses sprayed all over her, cheekbones.
01:16:47.000I mean, I don't know what she's doing, but whatever she's doing, she needs to write a book.
01:16:50.000Because at 48, she's fucking stunning.
01:18:18.000We had two seasons with George Segal, who was on that show, Just Shoot Me, and then I can't think of the woman's name, Jessica Walter, who was from Archer and Arrested Development.
01:19:06.000Isn't that the thing about the casting couch?
01:19:08.000It's just not as simple as like, hey, look out on that couch and suck Mr. Brian Sanger's penis and put you in X-Men 5. No, it doesn't, you know.
01:20:56.000But if you were like a girl, and like some Mel Gibson type guy, some big Hollywood celebrity guy had parties and had a pool filled with 16-year-old girls and he was banging...
01:23:24.000According to the people, and obviously I'm only hearing one side of it, but it's going to cost them $25 million to fight it, and they get approached by these lawyers, and while they're going through the whole legal issue of what could be considered...
01:23:47.000They start accumulating legal bills, and then once the bills start getting high, then they pull them together, they have a meeting, and they say, look, here's the deal.
01:24:01.000And then they make a few million, and then they fucking high-five each other.
01:24:04.000They go get some hookers, they drink some wine, and they go, we got another one.
01:24:08.000I mean, there's some legit class-action lawsuits.
01:24:10.000Most certainly when products fail and people die.
01:24:14.000There was one recently with Chevrolet where it turned out that they hid the fact that their ignition switches were fucking up, and a bunch of people had died because of this.
01:24:25.000And so there's some legit class-action lawsuits when it comes to certain companies.
01:24:30.000When you see like a Bryan Singer type thing, and like, okay, wait a minute, you're gay, right?
01:25:25.000They get out of the pool and they're just all red.
01:25:28.000You can't get away with that kind of shit anymore.
01:25:30.000But back in the day, could you imagine if you could go back to the 1950s, the Humphrey Bogart days, what kind of fucking chaos those parties must have been like?
01:28:43.000They take those little five-hour energy drinks, whatever they're called, five-hour energy drinks.
01:28:47.000They fill that thing up with roofie shit.
01:28:50.000And then they take, they're called caps, and they take a little cap, and they put it in, and it makes you feel really like, ugh, like body buzzy.
01:28:56.000Oh, you mean GHB? GHB, yeah, which is one of the date rape drugs.
01:29:05.000Yeah, I don't know which one mine was.
01:29:07.000Mine's symptoms was I was on my second, or I just had my second drink, and I ordered a new drink, Took, like, one sip of my third drink, and then everything started getting spinning.
01:29:17.000Like, my vision was almost, like, trippy.
01:29:19.000Like, I couldn't, like, I was like, why is the room spinning right now?
01:29:26.000You were saying that someone, they take, like, Visine bottles and squirt it?
01:29:32.000A bouncer told me what they do is they take a Visine bottle, they fill it with whatever the crap they're using, and they'll just like literally keep it in their hand, walk through, and just drop, like while they walk by somebody's drink, just drop it in there.
01:29:42.000And he said that roofing guys, roofing guys is actually, he's seen it before, where like there's a guy talking to a girl they want to talk to, so they'll roofie the guy to get him out of the way.
01:29:53.000Like he'll start getting sick or whatever and go to the bathroom and pass out.
01:29:57.000Yeah, I never take drinks from people I don't know.
01:32:10.000Do you have any idea who might have done it?
01:32:12.000No, I mean, there was a lot of crazy...
01:32:14.000I mean, David Arquette was there, so I said hi to David, but there was also some people that I knew there, and I talked to them for a bit, but then I've been replaying it over my head over and over again, and I can't think of...
01:32:26.000I can almost think that maybe, what if I just grabbed the wrong drink?
01:32:31.000Like, I grabbed a stripper's drink by mistake or something, or...
01:32:35.000And someone was trying to roofie them.
01:34:52.000When people don't use honey, like when I mock vegans, one of the things that I mock, my old special was about how true vegans don't use honey because they don't think it's cool to make those bees work for people.
01:37:28.000Popular sweetener made with stevia and xylitol.
01:37:31.000Although proponents bestow the title natural to this sweetener, I've never eaten trivia because I'm not a fan of this uber-processed ingredient.
01:38:34.000I mean, like, life couldn't be better.
01:38:35.000If you knew that the only way to keep this running, the only way was if you ate healthy by some strange, you know, metaphysical miracle fucking magic thing.
01:38:47.000Whereas, like, if you ate healthy food, your luck would continue to be fucking amazing.
01:38:52.000But if you got lazy, it has nothing to do with your appearance or your talent.
01:42:44.000Like a two-inch steak, you need three minutes on each side, and then I put it on the upper level of the grill, I close the lid, and I cook it for another five minutes.
01:44:11.000They are so happy right now that they're...
01:44:13.000You could tell that they're just like crying with happiness.
01:44:16.000Yeah, they were trapped in those stalls for their whole life and then they released them out into this field and they're just dancing around.
01:48:27.000But his video skills, I think, no bullshit, and I'm not saying this just because you're here, you're one of the best video editors I've ever seen.
01:50:06.000I'm trying to get back into it and then this new computer is finally getting to the point where it's so much the rendering thing was the thing that I hated and the reason that made me stop.
01:50:15.000And we're just sitting there waiting for hours.
01:50:18.000What about those new Macs, those tubes, those Super Mac, the tower?
01:50:24.000Well, it's funny because you'd think that would be the best computer because I just bought a new computer.
01:50:30.000And researching those, you realize that they're using a different processor that isn't really that...
01:50:37.000Good for video editing as compared to the i7 processor that the iMacs use.
01:50:43.000So if you look at rendering times on one of those machines versus a iMac, the iMac even comes across being faster in a lot of the tests because those use Xeon processors, which aren't really...
01:50:55.000I don't know why they use Xeon processors.
01:50:57.000So is it because the software is optimized for that certain processor?
01:52:19.000Were you going there because you got a little something extra or was it they got busted after the fact and you were like, wait, I didn't even know.
01:53:25.000And that's the kind of shit that freaks me out.
01:53:27.000Okay, but is that just people that, like, you know, some people come here from another country, and they're poor, and they have a relative here.
01:53:33.000The relative says, look, you can sleep in my garage until you get on your feet.
01:54:08.000They don't mind giving blowjobs for $300 instead of working at Denny's for three days for $300.
01:54:15.000And they wouldn't even get $300 if they worked there for three days.
01:54:17.000They could blow you for five minutes and make $300.
01:54:20.000Some people would do that, and that's their prerogative as adult human beings.
01:54:24.000Our issue is legality and these weird ethics that we attach to sexuality over everything else we do.
01:54:32.000Like, everything else you do where people serve you, where people will serve you drinks, they'll serve you food, they don't fucking want to.
01:55:45.000The real issue is When you have things illegal, then everything has to be seedy and hidden and, you know, in the darkness and underground, and then you get things like sex slavery.
01:56:27.000Whiskey's sold, and it's taxed, and everybody seems to be fine.
01:56:31.000Other than the fact that people drink it and do stupid shit while they're on it, there's no violence, and no murder, and no crime attached to the production of fine whiskey.
01:57:15.000But I mean, if you went to a place like that and they gave you handjobs, it would be the most glorious thing ever.
01:57:21.000If you went to that place and there was a beautiful Russian lady and she took you into this quiet room and she just cupped your balls with one hand and jerked you off with the other, while you had an iPad, you're watching porn, it would be the greatest thing ever.
01:57:34.000I want to know what's the difference between, like if you go on Backpage and you see they have escorts, then they have legit massages where they bring a table over to your house and they massage you.
01:57:48.000Then they have body sliders where it's like they bring a big inflatable raft that you have in a swimming pool and then you get naked and then they put oil over you and they just slide their naked body on you.
01:59:28.000Is there like a five-second rule, like if you cum but you put it in your mouth real quick and it doesn't count because it's going back in your body?
01:59:56.000I always find it weird though, like if you have a goober in your mouth and you can feel it, it's one of those thick ones, and then you spit it on a piece of paper, the idea of you now licking that back up is the most grossest thing in the world, but just a second ago you were in your mouth just tasting it and swishing it around.
02:00:17.000You know, kind of grossed out right now.
02:00:18.000Well, it's like if you had to take a shit, you know, that's one thing.
02:00:20.000You're like, oh, I can't wait to take a shit.
02:00:22.000And you get on that toilet, and it comes up.
02:00:25.000But if you had to stuff that shit back in your asshole, if you had to reach in there with rubber gloves on and just pack your own ass, repack it, that might be one of the worst things you could ever do.
02:01:45.000Well, there's nothing worse than when you have to shit really bad and the only option is a porta potty.
02:01:51.000And you're at a concert, and there's 20 people behind you, and there's a long-ass line, and you go in there, and you plop down, and you're shitting on other people's shit that is on top of other people's shit, which is on other people's shit, which is all in Smurf juice.
02:02:04.000And you're just dropping logs on top of pre-existing logs, and just gagging.
02:02:12.000Meanwhile, the band's playing your favorite song.
02:02:16.000Freebird, no, fuck, I gotta get my pants off!
02:02:21.000They had a thing about the porta-potties.
02:02:23.000The whole point of them is you're supposed to close the lid, and then that will take the scent out up through this funnel, like this tube, and release the scent up there.
02:02:32.000But the reason porta-potties smell so bad is because everyone just leaves the lid up.
02:03:12.000If you can, I mean, well, because a lot of times, because we shoot on location, so everything, it takes a while to get back to, like, your trailer where, like, I have a couch or something I could sleep on, and so it's rare that they would make you sit for that long.
02:03:25.000How far away are you from, like, the set?
02:03:28.000Like, if your trailer is one place, how far away is the set where you're filming?
02:03:31.000It's usually, it's always less than 10 minutes.
02:03:34.000You were telling us before that you get there at 5 o'clock in the morning, but when are you done?
02:04:25.000And when you come back to LA, did you keep an apartment in LA, or did you just stay here for a little bit?
02:04:30.000I kept one here and I'm going to have that as long as I'm on the show because I don't know when I'll get killed off and I'm not going to want to go find a new place.
02:05:08.000But then there was another guy who literally got it out of Lawrence Gilliard, who plays Bob, the guy who got his leg chopped off and eaten by the cannibals.
02:05:21.000He didn't want to sign the lease because he had a feeling he was about to go.
02:05:24.000And so he actually got the producers to tell him.
02:06:55.000But then what they do is they had these guys, because we were right next to a cornfield and they had our special effects guys perched on some ladders with these paintball guns with these exploding I don't know, the pellets that kind of spark off.
02:07:10.000So when I go and I shoot up the truck, they're actually the ones firing the truck and it just hits on the truck.
02:07:17.000So that was really cool because they used to have to run this line of charges or whatever and have those explode at one time.
02:07:25.000Well, when you kill a zombie, what is actually happening?
02:07:29.000Because some of it is obviously so CGI-y, like the blood looks fake.
02:07:34.000It's almost like they do it so it's not too realistic so they could show it, almost.
02:07:39.000Like the craziness of the blood is almost like...
02:07:51.000With that, they had these tubes that were just tied around their neck.
02:07:55.000And even everyone on set was going like, oh, this looks totally fake.
02:07:57.000And they're like, no, no, no, we'll color that out later.
02:08:00.000And the tubes were actually, like, gushing out the blood.
02:08:03.000And so when they cut, you know, so they do the motion to cut, and I think they either had, like, a rubber knife, or a lot of times they have a knife that's just the handle with some, like, green tape on the end in it, so it's not a full knife or machete sort of thing.
02:08:19.000Oh, the knife is CGI. Yeah, so, like, if I got this water bottle and there's no blade on the end of it, I just use that, and then they can just paint that in and make it look like a knife as I cut my throat.
02:09:05.000It was almost too over the top because it was like, God, I can't see anybody that I know getting to that point where they club someone and turn them into a steak.
02:10:11.000That's one of the things that I didn't understand about the prison when everybody was like, you know, all these zombies are pushing up against that wall.
02:11:22.000Would you become a zombie if you fucked a zombie in the butt?
02:11:25.000I don't think so, but you're already infected, so who cares?
02:11:28.000Yeah, you're already infected, which is weird, because when the guy got bit last night, that episode, he got bit, but if he just cauterizes that wound, does he become a zombie?
02:12:30.000There was like a little girl at that gas station who walks by and just bends down and picks up her little teddy bear that was hers and tucks it up and walks away.
02:13:33.000They were stabbing him with a knife, and the knife was bending...
02:13:36.000And they were trying to stab him in the chest, but the guy was showing us how, you know, you can just take a knife and he had the glove on and he was slicing like the webbing in between his fingers.
02:13:46.000And everyone's like, oh my god, oh whatever.
02:13:49.000And then they gave me an ice pick and he put his hand out and kind of like that movie Alien, I had to go in between his fingers.
02:13:56.000And they told me beforehand, they go, go ahead and like, you know, pop him in the hand a few times because he's not going to, it's not going to hurt him or anything.
02:14:48.000Like, I've seen a lot of guys get their arms broken in fights where they get kicked and they're blocking the kick and, like, the shin hits their arm.
02:16:26.000What do you think, though, with, like, you know, Silva was injured and they were saying that maybe the doctor that he was working with has had a past of, you know, over-prescribing, you know, amounts of steroids or legal steroids.
02:16:50.000I guess in the past, this other fighter was like, yeah, he was approved to use this kind of steroid or something like that for an injury, and he gave me too much, which caused me to be like seven months of being penalized out of the UFC. I forget this fighter's name,
02:17:10.000but he says that's what's happened to Silva.
02:17:12.000Silva, he's been fighting since 17. He's never touched steroids.
02:17:16.000He's been working this injury, and it might just be that, right?
02:18:04.000He's blaming a doctor for him taking an abnormally high dose of testosterone.
02:18:10.000May be true, may not be true, but it's within his best interest to say that the doctor is at fault and it's not his fault.
02:18:17.000The doctor said he was going to sue him because the doctor's like, you know, you're lying, I didn't do anything unethical or outrageous to you, and everything you wanted me to do I did for you.
02:18:27.000Who the fuck knows who's telling the truth?
02:18:29.000It's totally a he said, she said thing.
02:18:32.000But Anderson was coming back from a broken leg, and he tested positive for, the way I understand it, metabolites, which means it was leaving his system.
02:19:25.000Because one of the things that happens when you take steroids is it creates permanent changes in your muscles.
02:19:31.000Depending upon the steroid permanent changes permanent like your your muscle density and your tendon strength and various attributes of your muscles It's been proven that some of the benefits of steroids continue permanently So it's not just when you're on them you're fucking the Hulk because a lot of these guys Especially back in the day when they were fighting in pride like they I had Ensign Inouye,
02:19:56.000who was on the podcast, who was a fighter from Pride, who was totally clean, who said it was on his fucking contract.
02:20:01.000They said on the contract, we will not test you for steroids.
02:20:04.000They said on the contract, encouraged guys to take steroids.
02:20:18.000Let's imagine, you know, they're doing all these weird things now with genetics where they're taking like a fucking mouse and they're growing a human ear on its back and then, you know, taking that human ear and inserting it in a person.
02:20:30.000We're doing all this weird shit with people.
02:20:31.000If they take Josh McDermott and they add one-tenth of one percent rhino genes and all of a sudden you're fucking running through brick walls and...
02:20:43.000If you get off that drug but you retain a fraction of that ability, whatever the fraction is, it's arguable that a person who takes steroids, especially prolonged steroid use over a long career of fighting, you know, you've fought for 15 years,
02:20:59.000been taking steroids for 15 years, You're not really technically the same as you would ever be without those steroids.
02:21:23.000Should you be able to serve that Coca-Cola tequila out of a Coke machine?
02:21:29.000No, you should not, because people are looking for Coke.
02:21:32.000Now, human beings vary widely biologically, so it's not the best analogy, but the reality is, especially as this whole steroid epidemic is one thing we have to recognize.
02:21:43.000The use of steroids is less than 100 years old.
02:21:46.000Less than 100 years old in steroids and athletics.
02:21:49.000I mean, I don't know what the fuck they were taking in the 1940s if they had anything.
02:21:57.000Amphetamines have always been an issue with baseball.
02:22:00.000Amphetamines and stimulants and things that increase your ability to concentrate and your ability to stay awake.
02:22:07.000There's always been substances that people have taken, but the actual use of anabolic steroids in human beings is relatively recent in human history.
02:22:16.000And I think that as time goes on, they're going to create more and more powerful and crazier shit, and it's going to get to the point where you're going to test negative because you're not on it anymore, but your body will forever be changed.
02:22:30.000Like, girls will be in denial about having a fake butt.
02:22:57.000You're going to have men that are like that.
02:22:59.000You're going to take a guy, and you're going to give him a shot, and he's going to turn into the fucking Hulk, and then that shot's going to wear off, and his body's going to stay the same.
02:25:49.000Because I hang out with Joe Rogan, man.
02:25:51.000LAUGHTER Tribulus is just a root, and it very mildly enhances your body's production of testosterone.
02:26:00.000There's another one called Tongat Ali that has a similar effect that's also like a plant-based substance that mildly enhances your body's ability to...
02:26:11.000But it doesn't fuck with the production of it.
02:26:14.000The thing about steroids is, what happens is, like, you take something and it just jacks your body's levels of testosterone.
02:26:22.000So then your body's natural production of testosterone shuts down.
02:26:26.000And that's why, like, when I took that Mag10 stuff, like, after I got off of it, my body was like, yeah, dude, I'm not really feeling, like, fucking, we're just gonna, we'll just take a little break here.
02:26:37.000I mean, it took two weeks to get your wiener back.
02:27:03.000Do you know the whole story behind it?
02:27:05.000It exists, for folks who don't know, because you would take something like crystal meth, which is an absolutely illegal drug, but if you change just one compound, one molecule of that compound, just alter it slightly, and then sell it, no one can say it's illegal because it's not illegal.
02:27:23.000If meth is illegal and then you just tweak it a little bit, like dimethyltryptamine was turned, this is the psychedelic drug, was made illegal in 1970 by the sweeping psychedelic act of 1970. But they missed 5-methoxy dimethyltryptamine,
02:29:20.000All those things are missing from 5-MeO, which is like kissing cousins to the same drug.
02:29:26.000I think one of the things that's wrong with basalts is that Some of them, you know, you tweak it one way or another, and especially on different individuals, they have biodiversity in the way they respond to different drugs.
02:29:39.000You have varying effects, like that fucking dude who ate that dude's face off.
02:30:00.000That makes no sense because you capture so much information.
02:30:04.000You were an encyclopedia of knowledge.
02:30:06.000I was talking to someone the other day, I don't remember who, but I was just like, yeah, he'll start saying something and just like 10 minutes later you're just like, I don't even remember what you said.
02:30:17.000There was so much information you just threw at me.
02:30:20.000And it's not like you're like, because for me, I'm always like, yeah, so then there's this one drug and it's like five and something.
02:30:27.000But anyway, no, you like, I don't know when you learned about all this, but I guarantee it was a while ago and you still can recall it like that.
02:32:05.000And then three years in, I think they told me I couldn't come back because my grades are really bad.
02:32:10.000So I remember I bullshitted and wrote this really eloquent response.
02:32:16.000And I wrote it all out and I was going to send it in.
02:32:19.000And then I read it and I was like, if I put half as much effort into school as I did to bullshitting them with this really eloquent letter that I'm writing about, I don't If you want to go to school, then I feel like, I gotta stop.
02:32:33.000I am not gonna get a fucking normal job.
02:32:36.000My parents are completely disappointed in me, but it's okay.
02:32:38.000I'm already out of the house, so let's just run with this.
02:32:42.000They didn't want me doing anything that I ever did, so let me just keep going.
02:32:47.000So the things that I'm interested in, like back then, if you asked me questions about Taekwondo, which is what I was obsessed with back then.
02:32:54.000I would be able to tell you everything, where it started, who created it, who invented this technique, who was first successful with this technique, when they changed the variability of how you use your hips.
02:33:05.000There's one style that does it this way, another style does it that way.
02:33:07.000This is the benefits of this, this is the benefits of that.
02:33:10.000I would be able to rattle off anything about things that I was interested in.
02:33:14.000I have an OCD, obsessive, weird brain, but it's not a good brain for It's not a good brain for remembering to pay your bills.
02:33:29.000It's not a good brain for, like, if I had a job and, you know, you've got to show effort to be a part of this company.
02:33:35.000This company is all about co-operation.
02:34:31.000I would stay up and watch Tonight Show, Johnny Carson, and I'd watch Letterman, and then I would watch whatever was after that, and then go to bed like four in the morning, wake up at six, Go to school, sleep in every single class.
02:35:49.000I have several teachers in my family, and it's very frustrating to see the struggles that they go through and not having enough money in the budget to buy the frickin' materials they need to teach the kids the curriculum.
02:37:04.000You just want to get the Get the fuck out of here!
02:37:07.000And meanwhile, you got a video game in your pocket you want to play, or you got a fucking comic book you want to read that's way more stimulating and interesting than this horse shit.
02:37:17.000This fucking lady's talking to you in Spanish.
02:38:58.000And how come nobody ever takes kids that are fucking antsy or that crack jokes all the time Nobody ever pulls him aside and goes, hey man, you should be a fucking comic.
02:40:39.000I'm frustrated by people that I know that are just living in hell.
02:40:43.000I know too many people that just, they've been lied to.
02:40:46.000And they don't have anybody around them that tells them any different.
02:40:49.000They don't have anybody around them that tells them, man, there's a lot of paths in this life.
02:40:53.000There's a lot of people that start their own businesses.
02:40:55.000There's a lot of people that sell art or become landscapers or do things that they enjoy or become hunting guides or become someone who takes people on hiking tours.
02:41:08.000There's a lot There's a lot of fucking different things to do in this life.
02:41:11.000And everyone gets lumped into these same paths and they're just shoving us in like fucking cattle into these packed in paths where everybody wants to put that stupid hat on with the tassels.
02:41:26.000I got my paper that says I'm not retarded.
02:41:50.000The woman told me I was too stupid to go to college and then I shouldn't think about going into the military, which pissed me off because, you know, that's stupid.
02:42:36.000She, um, I don't know, when you're a kid, I don't think you really know how old people are, but she was probably mid to late 40s at the time.
02:42:43.000She's probably buried right next to John Candy.
02:42:58.000You know, and it's like, I... I thankfully kind of figured it out on my own, but how many people don't really figure it out that they just take that advice and go, oh shit, well I guess I should go learn to be a mechanic.
02:43:35.000This is the idea that this woman can do that to you.
02:43:38.000It's so disappointing that that person, if that was my fucking kid, I would scream at that lady.
02:43:44.000If you came home and, you know, you told me that some lady told you you were too stupid to go to college and you had to be a mechanic or a fucking soldier, I would scream at that lady.
02:44:08.000I know if I came home and told my dad that, you know, I didn't, but I know if I did, he probably just would have been, well, what branch do you want to go into?
02:44:15.000Like, that would have been his response, you know?
02:44:18.000That's probably why I didn't say anything.
02:44:19.000Yeah, my stepfathers thought for sure I was going to be like a fucking construction worker or something.
02:44:24.000They didn't have a lot of faith in me.
02:44:25.000But when you're coming home with all shit grades, they knew I was good at drawing.
02:44:30.000So like there's thoughts that I would be an artist.
02:44:32.000But then when I wasn't even into art, and once I started to get into martial arts, I wasn't even into art anymore.
02:44:36.000So there's this transitionary period between the age of 15 to like 17 where there wasn't a lot of shit going on in my life where they were really worried about me.
02:44:46.000Then I started winning all these Taekwondo tournaments and they were like, okay, he's doing something good.
02:44:50.000But even then they were worried about that and it was totally discouraging.
02:45:37.000And everything I would draw was like dragons eating villages, and it was all like fucking people running for their lives, getting hacked to death by swords.
02:45:44.000I was an angry kid, and I drew a lot of crazy shit.
02:46:12.000I remember this guy was just so negative and influential because enthusiasm is very influential, but negativity is also influential.
02:46:24.000And I was connecting this world of failure to this guy's path.
02:46:29.000And I was like, well, I don't want to be an art teacher like this fucking shithead, just working with a bunch of people and squashing their dreams.
02:46:36.000Because it wasn't like I wasn't talented.
02:47:32.000It's one of his new bits about Notorious B.I.G. When Biggie was young, he had this rap, to all the teachers who told me I ain't gonna grow up to be shit.
02:47:44.000I don't want to say anymore because it's a really funny joke and I don't want to give any of the joke away, but he has this whole bit about these teachers telling him that he wasn't gonna be shit, that Notorious B.I.G. wasn't gonna be shit.
02:50:39.000I just read something online about one of the writers was at a dinner party and they were talking to him about all the crazy shit that was inserted into the show, the polar bears or whatever.
02:50:50.000There's so many things that didn't tie up.
02:50:53.000At the end, and he said, yeah, we never had any intention of justifying it.
02:50:57.000It was just, we were literally throwing in whatever.