In this episode of the podcast, I sit down with my good friend, comedian, writer, podcaster, and all-around awesome dude, Matt Kuchta. We talk about how important it is to not rely on the placebo effect, the benefits of AlphaBrain and other brain meds, and how to get into the optimal brainwave frequency. We also talk about CBD and how it can be a game-changer in our everyday lives. I hope you enjoy this episode, and if you do, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts and other podcasting platforms! Tweet me if you have any questions, suggestions, suggestions or just want to say hi! Timestamps: 3:00 - What is AlphaBrain? 4:30 - The benefits of CBD and other CBD 6:15 - Why CBD is a game changer 7:20 - How CBD can help you remember things 8:40 - Is it safe to use CBD in your everyday life 9:00 10:30 - What are you looking forward to trying CBD? 11:15 What is your favorite type of cannabis? 12:20 13:00 Is CBD good for your brain? 15:40 16:00 Are you looking for a high? 17:00 What s your favorite strain? 18:00 How does CBD work for you? 19:00 Do you like it? 21:00 Does it help you feel better? 22:00 Can you tell me what you think it s better than other types of cannabis ? 26: Is it better than your brain health? 27:30 Do you have a favorite strain of marijuana? 29:30 What do you think you would like to see me use it in your life? 30:00 Would you like to try it in the next episode? 32:00 Should I try it out? 33:30 Is it work for me? 35:30 Can you give me a shot of CBD or not? 36: What are your thoughts on it? 35:40 Can I use it more? 37:30 Does it work better than that? 39:40 Is it help me try it again? 40:40 Do you need to try something new in the future? 45:50 Can it be better than what I ve tried it?
00:00:00.000Weirdos like zone healers or fucking freaks who are doing strange things that really relies on someone believing in it.
00:00:08.000And if someone does believe in it, then that placebo effect does kind of has some effect, but you don't want to rely on that fucking thing.
00:00:16.000It's nice to know that there's actually some shit going on, not just, you know, I think I feel it.
00:00:23.000The big one for me has always been forming sentences, because obviously I talk for a living.
00:00:27.000I talk for a living, form sentences for a living, and my ability to recall words and to pull words up instantaneously is critical.
00:00:35.000When dealing with hecklers at a comedy club, when recalling material, when recalling Techniques or going over techniques during a UFC card when you know trying to reference something during a podcast like that's so giant man For most people for everything when you're talking to a girl when you're in a business meeting when you're in an interview and You're just out hanging out.
00:00:54.000It's nice to be able to not go oh Yeah, you know and have to think about those those dull moments You know we've all had those dull moments when you just woke up when someone's talking to you on the phone and you're You know it's that thing like I do those fucking radio interviews sometimes, man.
00:01:10.000And a lot of times I have to do these radio tours, like start at like 6 o'clock in the morning when I wake up, like for UFCs and stuff like that.
00:01:15.000I have to call up all these different radio stations.
00:01:18.000And for the first 40 minutes, I'm a fucking moron, man.
00:01:35.000And what things like Alpha Brain can do, along with, of course, meditation, proper thinking techniques, how to manage your consciousness, managing your mind, they can get you or keep you in a more positive frequency,
00:01:50.000a better vibration, a better RPM, quicker RPM than you would be normal.
00:01:57.000Better frequency for what you're trying to do.
00:01:59.000I mean, you're dragging yourself out of sleep, which is theta state, which is really low, and sometimes delta state if you're a really good sleeper, which is at the very bottom part of the frequency.
00:02:08.000And you're trying to drag yourself back out to that without, you know, and getting in the optimal frequency.
00:02:13.000But yeah, these things can, and we've shown it now with these studies, help get you in that optimal brainwave frequency, which is pretty rad.
00:02:21.000And the Boston Center for Memory, they tried a bunch of different shit this year that didn't do anything.
00:02:27.000Yeah, so AlphaBrain broke a streak of 14 straight clinical trials from both pharmaceuticals and nutraceuticals that showed zero results.
00:02:35.000So when they came back with the results, they were, like, pretty surprised and pretty stoked because they're used to just doing these trials, and they report every single one.
00:02:42.000If it came back negative, they'd run the report, and they're pros.
00:02:47.000And AlphaBrain broke that streak of 14 in a row that came back null results.
00:02:52.000So they were fired up, especially because this is a product that has earth-grown nutrient ingredients, natural ingredients.
00:02:58.000So natural ingredients on a healthy population and statistical significance You know, really extremely rare, according to them, from what they've seen.
00:03:09.000Isn't it hilarious that so many different things that we consider earth-grown nutrients, you know, natural ingredients, natural ingredients, you look upon like, oh, what is that going to do?
00:03:20.000It's like most of what you're putting in your body is supposed to be that stuff.
00:03:26.000I mean, that's literally the building blocks of your fucking cells is vegetable matter, plant matter, protein, earth-grown nutrients.
00:03:37.000We get bigger because we eat these things and it becomes us, you know?
00:03:40.000But it's funny that those things, I mean, especially, not alpha brain, obviously, because it's not illegal, but fuck, if they had found out about it a long time ago, it probably would have been illegal.
00:03:49.000Cannabis is something that, of course, everyone that listens to this podcast knows pretty much how I feel about marijuana and how important I think it is for humanity.
00:04:00.000But it's really, it's hitting home with me right now because I have a good friend whose mom is stage four cancer.
00:04:50.000And it shows just how, like, improving things a little bit can start a positive cascade.
00:04:54.000Like, you improve just enough to sleep, and then the sleep starts improving things.
00:04:58.000And then once you sleep enough, you can eat more, and that starts improving things.
00:05:01.000So, even if the cannabis was only a 10% increase, maybe that got her to sleep, and then maybe the sleep got her to eat.
00:05:07.000And then all of a sudden, it starts going on down the line and making a big improvement.
00:05:11.000Yeah, I mean, you can't discount any of the factors, even the chemotherapy, any of the things that she was doing, but the fact that the cannabis helped her so much, helped her sleep, helped her eat, and that in most states, except for, what, 18 now?
00:05:25.000And in Colorado right now, they're trying to get people to...
00:05:28.000The sheriff's department and some other form of police department, they're trying to sue the state because they said they're upholding state and federal laws and they're not allowed to uphold the federal law against marijuana.
00:06:55.000I mean, that's like the MMA dudes that wear those fucking t-shirts on it, you know, with skulls that have bullet holes in them and, you know, strangling chickens.
00:07:04.000It's always some fucking guy who's taking it too far.
00:07:07.000Yeah, instead of just being, they're showing.
00:07:09.000And as soon as you start showing, then it's a problem.
00:07:11.000That's what it is with everything though, right?
00:07:12.000I mean, pretty much with everything there is in this world.
00:08:57.000He goes in to deal with the citation and I don't know what he did.
00:09:04.000He reached some agreement with the court or talked to someone who didn't understand the ramifications and they fucking sentenced him to 30 days in jail.
00:10:12.000And that was like an approved therapy, along with electroshock and all this weird shit.
00:10:16.000You know, we'll look at some of the judicial system we have and be like, what were we thinking?
00:10:20.000Yeah, well, do you remember, there was a documentary on Hunter S. Thompson.
00:10:26.000And in the documentary, it was, I forget who he was supporting for president, but the vice president, it was a scandal, like as they were running for president, found out that he had gone through electroshock therapy.
00:10:38.000He'd had a few moments where shit didn't work out right with his brain, and so they decided to juice this guy up.
00:11:00.000It's not like they're targeting anything, you know, like Dave Asprey might be doing now.
00:11:04.000I mean, he still may not know exactly what he's doing, but at least he has an idea of a goal that he's going for when he's zapping his brain.
00:11:09.000These guys was just like sticking a fork in the light socket.
00:11:12.000Well, they had an episode of Radiolab about that stuff.
00:11:23.000That's definitely a new frontier that could show a lot of promise, but it's getting more exact.
00:11:28.000The more you get from this crude version to the exact version, that's where it's going to start showing promise.
00:11:33.000Well, that's what they were saying on the Radiolab thing, that they have a bunch of people that are essentially hackers.
00:11:39.000That are creating their own home remedies, and they're attaching these things to them.
00:11:44.000And, you know, sometimes they do it and they lose their sense of smell.
00:11:47.000You know, like, juicing up weird parts of your brain.
00:11:51.000You know, you see, like, weird things out of the corner of your eyes, your feet go numb.
00:11:55.000Like, you're just, you're applying electricity to the outside of your head.
00:11:58.000but there's been some things where they've shown like significant improvements including the ability to focus and the ability to learn tasks like they had this woman go through a sniper training thing she did it on the natch she does it she's terrible at it she knows like this video game where the hostage situations who do you shoot and she's missing everybody she gets like two out of you know whatever the fuck the number was she does it again they strap these things to her head she does the whole twenty minute course It's over like that.
00:12:29.000And she goes, well, why was it over so quick?
00:12:48.000I wonder if it was manipulating the brainwave frequency, like getting her into that alpha state zone, or whether it was, you know, prefrontal cortex blood flow, or there's a lot of different things they can do, but I think there's a lot of promise in that field.
00:13:00.000You know, it's a shortcut that we're starting to learn.
00:13:03.000We're still, you know, most people at least are still...
00:13:10.000White belts in how to manage the mind.
00:13:12.000We're amateur race car drivers with this insanely complicated piece of machinery that most people don't understand the potential of.
00:13:20.000And there's different states that you achieve almost accidentally.
00:13:23.000You have a couple of shots, you're at the bar, you're playing pool, you can't fucking miss.
00:15:02.000I was actually at a dinner party where he was at, and he's the man.
00:15:06.000As far as having just that natural charisma where you just want to just pull up a seat and listen to him tell a story, it could be about him getting a fucking Starbucks.
00:15:29.000That often happens with those big-time movie star fellows and gals.
00:15:34.000They become big-time movie stars and they just don't have enough time to raise their kids.
00:15:38.000And then the kids are around these really super unhealthy environments and a lot of empty pleasure environments and a lack of understanding, discipline, and then also genetic predisposition to addictions that he had and obviously his son Charlie has.
00:15:57.000You know, who knows, other folks in his family might have had as well.
00:16:19.000You know, spiritual journeys and meditation and psychedelics and things that you got to say, listen, this is going to be the pressure of the world in this situation is going to try and steer me this way.
00:16:28.000So I got to overcompensate by working that much harder to make sure I stay grounded and stay balanced.
00:16:34.000But those, you know, those mechanisms aren't in place and they're not part of mainstream understanding.
00:16:39.000So, you know, whereas maybe in 50 years, a person like Michael Douglas will be like, listen, Here's your 18th birthday.
00:16:49.000And then every year thereafter, you're doing something else, you know, staying in an ashram for two weeks.
00:16:55.000He's got to know that there's so much pressure that he can help kind of guide this.
00:16:58.000But right now, it's just nobody knows that much.
00:17:01.000Yeah, could you imagine if you grew up and your dad was a giant movie star and you go on the red carpet holding your dad's hand and you're like...
00:17:06.000Also, you have to live in that guy's shadow.
00:19:07.000I had a friend when I grew up who was Korean, and Korean families, I don't know if you have any Korean friends, but Korean families are incredibly hardworking, like incredibly strict, incredibly disciplined.
00:19:19.000Like, he was one of the most disciplined people I've ever met.
00:19:21.000He was on the National Taekwondo team when he was going through his, uh, he was going through medical school.
00:19:29.000So he was in the middle of medical school, and he was also on the National Taekwondo team.
00:20:04.000He's kind of stout, and he's just killing it in there.
00:20:06.000I've seen the circles get deeper, and he's losing weight.
00:20:09.000He still finds a little time here and there, but it's a grind.
00:20:13.000I can't imagine that anybody thinks it's the way to do it.
00:20:17.000I think everybody's just been doing it like that for so long, but how is it possible that they let doctors work these giant long-ass shifts completely exhausted and take care of people's medical issues and possibly fuck things up because they're exhausted, just because of fatigue?
00:20:34.000Yeah, and it's kind of like that Navy SEAL type of training.
00:20:38.000They put you through enough pressure in medical school or in BUDS training, as it is for the Navy SEALs, that they can trust you in battle with people's lives on the line.
00:20:45.000And I think that's why they make medical school that hard.
00:20:49.000It's like a gauntlet that if you pass this motherfucker, then you'll be able to handle these longships, especially when you're interning at a hospital and doing all those.
00:20:57.000I think it's probably the right move for SEALs.
00:22:17.000One thing about doctors, people give doctors a hard time, especially because of this medical crisis that we're in, but I really don't think it's the doctor's fault.
00:22:25.000They're trained to follow clinical research, and they do that really, really well.
00:22:32.000The problem is that the people funding clinical research have a vested interest.
00:22:36.000They're researching products that they want to sell.
00:22:38.000They're not researching, hey, let's see what happens if we feed this guy a natural diet and do that against placebo.
00:22:45.000Well, that's a couple hundred grand that Nobody's paying for it because nobody's making any money off that.
00:22:49.000So there's an absence of clinical research showing these other kind of functional medicine and non-profit ways that people can get healthy.
00:22:58.000And I think that really, when you're looking at kind of correcting some of the issues in medicine, that's what needs to happen.
00:23:04.000Big non-profit groups need to get together and start funding clinical trials for these things that have no profitable viability.
00:23:12.000You know, just studying healthy diets, studying, you know, what happens if you float for, you know, every day for six weeks, studying what happens when you do all of these other things that you can't possibly make money off of, and I think that's going to make a big difference.
00:23:25.000That is, and it's also, try talking to a doctor about something that's outside of his wheelhouse, and, you know, you've got to get a lot of, you know, like, what do you think about, you know, ask a doctor about, Meditation or oh yeah, you know that's not gonna that guy's fucking busy man He's got 18 different patients waiting in his office And that's not his field of study and you can't possibly know everything about the human body when it comes to Every single function of the human body all the different mechanisms involves in absorbing nutrients and absorbing like the different things
00:23:55.000that can go wrong in various organs like you specialize They specialize for a reason.
00:24:00.000There's a reason why foot doctors aren't also neurosurgeons, you know You can't be.
00:24:19.000Like, you're a guy who's supposed to be, like, managing, like, the health and wellness of these people that are in your care, at least as far as fixing them when shit goes wrong.
00:24:28.000But you've got a pot belly, and you don't have an ass.
00:24:31.000Like, you have bad posture, your neck is kind of slumped forward, like...
00:24:42.000It's literally a virtual impossibility to be complete as far as your education about the entire human body and every single organ and everything that can go wrong and everything that you can do right to prevent all these things from going wrong.
00:24:57.000And to really have a deep knowledge in the benefits of all these different things like yoga and meditation and super healthy, you know, nutrient-rich diets, you've got to do it.
00:25:09.000Like, Rich Roll, who's going to be on the podcast again soon, I've had him in the past, and he's an ultra-marathon runner who became this, like, fucking health and wellness fanatic, and he used to eat shit food and a terrible diet, and then started, like, juicing beets and eating healthy vegetables,
00:25:25.000and his whole body was like, what's going on?
00:25:27.000And he, like, described, like, one day where he just got out and just started running.
00:25:31.000Like, he had so much energy, he just started running.
00:25:33.000Well, it takes a guy like that to give you...
00:25:37.000I mean, obviously, it's an anecdotal experience.
00:25:39.000It's just one guy's take on what happened, but...
00:27:03.000The best doctor I know is Dr. Engel, and we work with him on it.
00:27:06.000So he was trained as a psychiatrist, clinical forensic child psychiatry, got his MD, and then was like, I don't really think this is the whole picture.
00:27:15.000So he was like, alright, I'm going to go completely the other way.
00:27:18.000Went down to South America and did 40 sessions of ayahuasca in 60 nights.
00:27:23.000And did way too much, like fried himself to a certain degree.
00:27:32.000So he lived in a tent on a land for like a year, and then he started studying different kind of functional medicine, but he put himself in the lab with all these things.
00:27:40.000Sometimes he screwed up, sometimes he got it right, but now he's able to combine, you know, the best part of Western medicine is MD, the best part of, you know, the shamanistic practices from South America, the best part of functional medicine and natural medicine, and kind of put it all together, and that's That's where the doctors can become great.
00:27:57.000Because maybe they're not specialists, but the problem with specialists is everything in the body is interconnected and related.
00:28:03.000So if you're only specializing in one thing, you're going to focus on that potentially to the detriment of the rest of your body.
00:28:09.000So having that at least basic understanding of the connection between all the parts of the body is incredibly valuable for a doctor.
00:28:17.000And then also putting themselves through all the things.
00:28:19.000How are you going to talk shit on what ayahuasca can do unless you've done it?
00:29:10.000I mean, maybe they're more thorough over here, and maybe they prevent people from, you know, having to get those old silicone breast implants pulled out, like that kind of shit.
00:30:45.000I mean, I'm not an expert on that, but I know the prohibition for us sending anything, even our vitamin C supplements, and they're like, no, no, no vitamin C. That's a pharmaceutical.
00:30:57.000Well, that's what they invented, that Regenikine, which I'm a giant fan of.
00:31:01.000You know, I've had that done several times now, man.
00:31:03.000You want to talk about something that just cuts your injury, like, the recovery time down radically.
00:31:10.000It's very expensive, but if you have something that's really fucking with you, a nagging injury, oftentimes it just nips that shit in the bud.
00:31:18.000It's available finally in America, but insurance doesn't cover it.
00:31:40.000I think really we're at a really cool time where all kinds of new shit is coming out and it's going to be like the best of what technology can do and I think the next big piece is going to become in harnessing what the mind can do.
00:31:53.000I was doing a little bit of research because I'm doing a lot of writing now and there was a study published in 2002 where they took 180 patients and they gave half of them a fake placebo knee surgery and the other half arthroscopic knee surgery.
00:32:06.000But everybody thought they were getting real knee surgery.
00:32:09.000So it was placebo-controlled knee surgery.
00:32:11.000And the results were absolutely on par.
00:32:14.000The people who got placebo-controlled knee surgery were cruising around.
00:32:23.000So, I mean, and that's something that isn't tested very often in surgery because people don't think, how do you do a placebo surgery?
00:32:29.000Well, they've done that with, there's a study in the 1950s that did it with a particular type of heart surgery where people, they gave people placebo heart surgery and real surgery.
00:32:41.000And so I think understanding how much that plays an effect, because if you go to surgery and you come out and you're all right, you think you're fixed.
00:32:48.000You know, like, man, the doctors are in there.
00:32:58.000And I think, really, the frontiers of medicine are going to be harnessing the stuff that really does work and add benefit, and then us tapping into these latent resources in our mind and using belief to help speed up and facilitate even additional healing.
00:33:12.000On the other hand, I really appreciate the fact that there's steps that people have to go through before they can sell a pharmaceutical drug.
00:33:23.000Aware of someone and close to us or something that had an adverse effect of some Pharmaceutical drug that you see in those late-night commercials.
00:33:31.000Were you one of the ones who took Vioxx or Fen-Fen?
00:33:36.000Goddamn son that fucked people's hearts up like for life Like there's people that have like fucking tricky hearts now because of some diet pills Lose fat but and your life Yeah, man, I know a dude who had a stroke because he was taking Guy Metzger, UFC fighter,
00:33:52.000former champion, a great fighter, great guy too, really cool guy.
00:33:57.000He got a fucking stroke from Vioxx, dude.
00:34:00.000He's taking this shit for arthritis in his knees and all of a sudden he starts slurring his words and everyone's like, um, Guy, something's going on.
00:34:38.000I mean, I called one of his fights, one of his early UFC fights in 97. You know, I've known that guy for a long time.
00:34:44.000He's always been like a super stand-up, looks like a movie star, looks like a hero in a movie.
00:34:50.000He's been just a cool dude, like always.
00:34:53.000And even in this situation, it's really cool because he's super honest about how he feels, like how he feels physically as opposed to how he used to feel and like what was going wrong.
00:35:03.000And he talked about the improvements that he had.
00:35:06.000It's hilarious, actually, because he talks about the improvements that he has.
00:35:09.000Like, you know, he's talking about brain trauma from fighting and then a stroke.
00:35:13.000And then later on, he's talking about now he can spar again.
00:35:17.000He's sparring with some fucking young whippersnapper that came into his gym, and the doctor's like, what the fuck are you doing?
00:35:23.000He's like, don't worry, he didn't hit me.
00:37:49.000The solution is it's not an either-or thing It's not of you have to go the conventional route with pharmaceutical drugs and a doctor's prescription or you go the fruitcake route with holistic medicine You're doing yoga and eating fucking kelp.
00:38:02.000It doesn't have to be it could be all the good stuff all the good stuff the good stuff that seems woo-woo You talk to people who do kundalini yoga.
00:38:35.000You go onto her property, if you go to where her house is, she makes you stand in a certain place and say your blessings and ask for the earth and the woods to embrace you.
00:39:14.000Denny, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, black belt, world champion as a brown belt, no Gi Jiu Jitsu.
00:39:18.000I mean, he's a bad motherfucker and a very good friend.
00:39:21.000And he's not a bullshit artist at anything.
00:39:23.000And he started getting deep into Kundalini.
00:39:26.000And he started doing it every day, and he said, dude, I'm tripping balls.
00:39:28.000He goes, I'm telling you, when I'm in full Kundalini mode, because Danny's super disciplined, and the type of discipline that you need to be a high-level competitive Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt is the same kind of discipline that if applied to yoga, you know, like a constant attention and focus on achieving these states.
00:40:46.000And that makes you want to discard the whole thing.
00:40:48.000Like, some of this woman's other practices were probably the majority of why you went, man, everything you're doing is whack, because I know some of this is whack, and I think that's an issue to make.
00:40:57.000But the actual kundalini yoga, I had a podcast with a former Navy SEAL, this guy Michael Vega, And he was on 11 different pharmaceuticals and that's another big problem with the military is they really over prescribe psychological meds for these people and interactions can be a problem.
00:41:14.000But he was on 11, couldn't sleep, full PTSD, totally fucked up.
00:41:18.000And then his process was exactly the same.
00:41:20.000He stopped taking the meds and started doing Kundalini Yoga, which he stumbled upon.
00:41:26.000And that was the key for him to reverse his PTSD. And this is an old Navy SEAL, like a real deal combat vet, you know, in the shit kind of guy.
00:41:50.000Like we've all seen that like I've never taken any music lessons at all but I have friends that play guitar and I had a friend that would play classical guitar and He'd do flamencos and shit, and he would grow his fingernails long and shit, like the whole deal.
00:42:05.000He had to put nail polish over him, and he was my friend from the time we were like 15. And he would go crazy with this fucking guitar.
00:42:15.000You could see his fingers move, and he'd play this crazy flamenco music, and you would realize that it's possible.
00:42:21.000But until I saw him do it, like with my fucking fat, stupid fingers, and like, I don't...
00:42:28.000I mean, I guess you could get there, but I've never seen anybody get there.
00:42:35.000I remember being a kid, watching black belts for the first time, watching people throw kicks, and watching people like this guy specifically, this guy John Lee.
00:42:46.000And now knowing that that was possible, where that was in my mind, what he was doing, the amount of power that he had, the speed that he had, and The execution, the perfect technique, didn't exist in my head.
00:43:59.000I'm doing just stretching and all that kind of...
00:44:01.000I don't know what you would even call it, what the discipline is.
00:44:04.000But the Kundalini is specifically designed, according to Denny...
00:44:08.000To try to stimulate these psychedelic states.
00:44:11.000Yeah, and what they're using is breath, and you know, you can get that in a variety of different ways.
00:44:16.000And the other thing that I've done is called holotropic breathing, which is pretty much like kundalini yoga without the yoga aspect.
00:44:22.000And kundalini yoga has very little to do with stretching.
00:44:24.000It's mostly getting in postures and breathing really, you know, deep breaths frequently and kind of drawing, visualizing, it's a visualization, visualizing drawing energy up.
00:44:35.000From your kundalini center, which is the base of your body, and then doing these breath works.
00:44:39.000And I've felt what can happen when you're in these, you know, hyper-oxygenated states.
00:45:15.000FMRI. FMRI. If they could put that on you.
00:45:17.000All the various ways they have of monitoring what the fuck's going on in your dome.
00:45:21.000If they could do that while you were in that, like, if you got to that psychedelic state and you told them, I was there, I was there, and like, okay, let's look at the chart and see.
00:46:09.000Joey Diaz is one of the best examples, because Joey will reach these states, and he'll say things off the top of his fucking head that you would swear somebody would labor for years to try to come up with a line as beautiful and poetic.
00:46:26.000And he'll say it, and then after it comes out of his mouth, he starts laughing, because he's laughing at it, because he didn't even know he was going to say it.
00:46:43.000That's funny you say that, because I talked with Stephen Kotler, who wrote this book, The Rise of Superman, and they've done a lot of studies on these flow states.
00:46:50.000And when you're in this flow state, you're releasing a concoction of five different endogenous drugs.
00:46:55.000And I can't name them off the top of my head, but he makes the argument that flow state is by far the most addictive substance in the world.
00:47:02.000Because you're getting dopamine, you know, norepinephrine, all of these different endogenous drugs basically get flooded through your body and nothing feels better.
00:47:11.000I mean, you can chase a high every other which way, but once you've felt that, you're going to want to get back to that more and more.
00:47:17.000I mean, it's incredibly addictive, incredibly productive, but also addictive.
00:47:21.000Yeah, any guy that's ever done anything dangerous, we've talked to BMX folks or Skateboarders or any of those extreme sports maniacs, those guys for sure are addicted to that experience.
00:47:34.000The rush of danger and pulling it off.
00:47:39.000You know, you see those guys when they do a flip and then they land and they're like, fuck yeah!
00:47:43.000It's like the universe is charging them like Highlander and shit like a lightning bolts going through him if you watch Chuck Liddell when Chuck Liddell would win He's the best example of that state because he would win and he would throw his arms back and roar and Yell with his chest poked out pull up pull up a video of Chuck Liddell Celebrating there's like a there's compilations of him celebrating yeah,
00:48:08.000and When he was in his prime, dude, you want to talk about, like, if you wanted the guy to recruit new fans, if you said, man, what is this MMA thing?
00:50:27.000You don't get that roar if you barely win by a split decision in a fight where you didn't take any chances, where you, you know, you did the right thing, but you stifled them up against the cage and put them to the ground and got on top of them and didn't really make any risks.
00:50:40.000No, you only get that when you go balls-out barbarian style.
00:50:56.000It seems like contact sports are some of the best ways to get that.
00:50:58.000I mean, you'll see that also when, like, a running back runs over three different giant men who've been training their whole life to bring them down.
00:51:05.000They get in there, and you'll get a tight taste of that.
00:51:08.000Probably none quite the same as Chuck Liddell, but something about these contact sports where you're actually just...
00:51:14.000In it and just getting pounded by different other, you know, individuals and then triumphing releases that massive feeling.
00:51:22.000Yeah, you know, I never experienced that.
00:51:24.000I never, like, any tournament that I won or anything like that, I always felt weird after it was over.
00:51:29.000I never felt, I felt relief because it was over and now I can relax.
00:51:34.000I did feel good about it later when I thought about, like, yeah, I fucking won.
00:51:43.000But when it was over, like, the state of mind, even if I won by knockout, especially even if I won by knockout, because then I was always like, fuck, that could have been me.
00:51:51.000Like, I'm not even making any money doing this.
00:51:53.000I'm out here throwing kicks at people, and they're kicking me, and I'm kicking them, and look what happened to this fucking kid.
00:52:26.000I think one of the things about being a martial artist, at least for me, the way I got better at it quicker, is that I was super honest about all the shit that I did wrong.
00:52:36.000I never tried to pretend anything was better than what it was.
00:52:40.000I would look at everything and I'd never be satisfied.
00:52:42.000All the techniques, I'd be like, that's not crisp enough.
00:52:45.000The weight transfer is not hard enough.
00:52:47.000Whatever it was, I'd be like, I've got to just keep drilling this over and over and over again.
00:52:50.000And because of that, I was acutely aware of my performance levels, which is why when I started getting hit in the head a lot, I started looking at the performance of my thinking and I was like something's off.
00:53:20.000And then I started thinking about these people that you see in life.
00:53:23.000Like you run into some old dude and he's hunched over and he's got a cane.
00:53:27.000You don't think of that guy as being a three-year-old running in his dad's backyard laughing and giggling and impervious to injury and flopping down on his butt and just getting right back up because he's only three inches off the ground.
00:54:07.000And I didn't compete that long, especially with a lot of head blows.
00:54:13.000Way more head blows in boxing and kickboxing, which all happened in the last two or three years that I was doing martial arts, like really intensely in competing.
00:54:36.000It's like choosing this lifestyle that you know can give you access to these feelings, like maybe Chuck Liddell felt, that.0000001% of the whole world will ever feel.
00:54:45.000You get access to a little piece of that, but it comes at a terrible price, you know, if you stick with it too long.
00:54:51.000If you stick with it too long, and that's the problem, is what we were talking about earlier, is the addiction.
00:54:55.000The addiction to that fucking rush, that rush, that wild feeling.
00:55:01.000Like I said, I never felt it like that.
00:55:03.000Well, you look at some of the people who are really intriguing me right now, and they have a different kind of attitude when they're in there.
00:55:19.000You know, everything looks like it's...
00:55:20.000You know, you don't see that rage come out of him in the cage anymore.
00:55:24.000And so he's so efficient at making great guys look silly.
00:55:28.000And even Connor, even though he's just starting out and he's got a lot of tougher guys to fight, he has a little bit of that element, too, where everything just looks easy for him.
00:55:37.000And I think that's the next wave because and they're gonna they're gonna deny themselves maybe some of the pleasure on the other side But their performance in that level in that mode is gonna be pretty fucking tough to beat Yeah, this it's very interesting seeing these various styles that are emerging You know one of the things that I really love about the UFC I and this is as a person who's seen it From the really early days,
00:56:05.000you know, I started watching UFC 2 and being able to call more than a thousand fights live from just a few feet away.
00:56:12.000You're seeing, it's like a mathematical equation.
00:56:16.000You're seeing, like, what are the benefits of being 265 pounds built like Brock Lesnar versus what are the benefits of a superior gas tank like Cain Velasquez and really good wrestling skills.
00:56:26.000What are the benefits of crisp technique over what are the benefits of rage and aggression and muscle?
00:56:30.000What are the benefits of a pace that no one can keep up with versus a guy who throws knockout blows but gets tired after the second round?
00:58:17.000To fight like you're a guy who doesn't have ridiculous explosive power, but always have that on tap and know when to release a little bit out of it and then pull it back.
00:58:25.000That way you can get that Frankie Edgar pace.
00:58:27.000Well, it's not only a proven grounds for strategy, like you're talking, which is amazing, but it's also a proven ground for mental conditioning.
00:58:34.000I mean, this is the place where there's absolutely zero room to be at less than your potential.
00:58:40.000You see fighters come out, and for whatever reason, you know that a different operating system in that body would be fighting that night.
00:58:47.000So for whatever reason, they weren't reaching it.
00:58:49.000And then you see the converse side, like TJ Dillashaw versus Burrell, when he came out, where you know he's on that bleeding edge of 99.99 of his potential of what he can do at that given point.
00:59:01.000And the states that they get in to get themselves that way, the practices.
00:59:05.000You know, John Jones, when we actually ran into him before his last fight at dinner, and he was talking about a really interesting practice that he was doing, in which he was going through all of the worst case scenarios that can happen against Daniel Corme.
00:59:20.000All of the worst case, and he said, and I've accepted those and I'm fine with them.
00:59:24.000And for him, that was releasing any fear that he had of what might happen in the ring.
00:59:29.000And that's what, and Daniele Bellelli pointed this out, that's also what the samurai would do before battle, and this is described vividly in the Hagakure, the Book of the Samurai.
00:59:37.000They would vividly imagine in their mind all of the different ways they could die.
00:59:42.000Gutted and eviscerated, their guts spilling out in their hands, an arrow piercing their neck.
00:59:46.000They would go through all of these different scenarios in their head, be at peace with them, understanding that death was coming to them all anyways.
00:59:54.000Then that way they wouldn't fear these scenarios, so they were fiercer in battle.
00:59:57.000So these techniques that are getting re-innovated by people like Jon Jones are really, you know, amazing to see because a lot of times innovation comes out of necessity, and there's no greater necessity than another killer trying to pummel you in front of millions of people.
01:00:12.000Yeah, the people want to say that it's 99% mental or 90% mental.
01:00:16.000That's not really true because no matter how strong your brain is, Jon Jones is going to kick your fucking ass, okay?
01:00:27.000But if John Jones's mind is totally on point, if he's in that samurai zone, that is an unbelievably deadly combination.
01:00:37.000When you have the superior athlete, With the superior mental toughness like a guy who goes through a really strong amateur wrestling background has like all those guys have Some savage mental toughness and you add that to like some sort of Meditation practice or some sort of a lot of them are using hypnosis now,
01:00:57.000There's a guy Who Joe Schilling was talking about I'll say his name because it's on my it's on my Twitter thing and He just did Ian McCall as well.
01:01:47.000Let's see what happens if I get this guy to read my fucking brain.
01:01:50.000Well, all of these things, and we've talked about it a bit on this podcast already, they're manipulating the belief system.
01:01:55.000And I've talked about knee surgery, placebos, this placebo, this nocebo effect, the power that the brain has to be able to affect conditions within the human body.
01:02:05.000And then so manipulating that to your benefit, I think, is a huge part.
01:02:11.000And I also think, especially when there's two people involved, if we understand that the belief system has a lot to do with potential outcomes, both for health and a variety of things, that's all been proven.
01:02:21.000You know, belief has huge, you know, a huge amount of leverage on what you're capable of doing physically.
01:02:27.000So understanding that, then it would make sense that evolutionarily speaking, humans would be good belief detectors of each other, right?
01:02:34.000Because that would allow you to assess whether your opponent at a certain point or someone you were going to fight might be able to beat you, or a mate that you were going to be with was going to be good, or someone was going to be able to provide, or your friend was going to be, you know, worthwhile.
01:02:47.000So detecting belief had to be a skill that we've developed.
01:04:07.000Audiences know when your head's not there or when you're not right.
01:04:11.000You can say the exact right words in the exact right order or the exact right amount of pauses, but if your intent isn't there, if your mind isn't there...
01:04:23.000I really think that stand-up is some form of hypnosis.
01:04:27.000Yeah, so their belief detectors are active.
01:04:29.000If you don't really believe that you're in the pocket and you're delivering it the right way, they'll kind of sense that.
01:04:36.000And that's what I'm kind of trying it to.
01:04:38.000And then the opposite of that is fear.
01:04:41.000Because fear is a belief of some probability that some bad shit is going to happen.
01:04:46.000So it's almost like a negative belief mechanism.
01:04:49.000Of course there's danger, and having danger is real, but the fear that's on top of that danger, that is somewhat of a belief that some other bad shit is going to happen, and that's why it manifests.
01:05:01.000It is a belief that something's going to happen.
01:05:03.000If you're afraid on stage that you're going to bomb, that fear will start to wend its way into yourself, and you'll create that, because some part of you believes that's what's going to happen.
01:05:14.000So it's almost like Fear is the nocebo of regular everyday living, whereas belief is the placebo of everyday living.
01:05:21.000That's why it's so devastating when you think about people that talk about being bullied, like some kids have gone through really horrific bullying episodes as children.
01:05:33.000When you think about what's happening when you're getting bullied, or you're scared of someone in your neighborhood, or there's someone who's harassing you or stalking you, They become, it's almost like they become a virus in your mind.
01:05:48.000Where someone, like, if you're in school and you have to get on that fucking bus and go, and this big fucker is gonna smack you in the head every day, and you're gonna be living in fear of this guy, trying to figure out where he is, that guy becomes like a virus in your head.
01:06:01.000And when you think of how meditation works, how meditation is sort of resetting you and clearing all of the programs that are in there, clearing all the things that seem to be externally dictating behavior.
01:06:21.000When You're when you're when you're fighting especially when you're competing and someone's beating you at something especially if they're talking shit They're kind of hypnotizing you totally because they're they're Planting their mind or their personality as a virus in your head and then also you are dealing with them like they're physically coming into your head and And fucking with your head.
01:06:43.000Well, you're not physically getting in their head at all.
01:07:33.000You took something you took because they kind of become a part of you.
01:07:38.000You kind of link up with each other in some sort of weird way.
01:07:41.000That's got to be similar to hypnosis in a way too in that what's going on with all these things is the mind is far more malleable than we ever give it credit for being.
01:07:51.000The personality is far more dependent upon whim and circumstance and influence than we ever really want it to be.
01:07:58.000All these things are kind of playing out at the same time.
01:08:30.000People do shit like that to each other.
01:08:33.000And I think these connections of the mind are these poorly understood Interfaces that we have with each other these poorly understood connections And that we want to we want to just like sometimes we can't handle it when you get distance from all being one Just give me get some distance.
01:09:08.000You know, it becomes this part of you, your ego, your sense of identity, and you get attached to that because it's feeding you with something that you think you need, some validation.
01:09:18.000Maybe she's super hot, and that helps you feel it's like a tricky little trap that helps you feel like, man, I'm the man.
01:09:26.000And then she leaves, and you're like, shit, maybe I'm not the man, because that's what was feeding you.
01:09:31.000But the key to that is you've got to get to a state of almost invincibility yourself, where you don't need anything from anybody or anything.
01:09:41.000That's just extra on top of it, you know?
01:09:44.000You're not borrowing anything from them to make up your identity.
01:09:48.000You're just enjoying the shit out of them and adding more, piling it on top.
01:09:52.000So when they leave, You're not really at a loss of anything.
01:09:55.000It's just, alright, I don't get to experience that extra good thing anymore.
01:09:59.000Yeah, most people don't see it that way because they watch John Cusack movies and they want to stand outside a chick's fucking house with a boombox playing some song they used to listen to before you banged.
01:12:45.000But that, I mean, and people, it's playing on pop radio because it strikes a chord, and I think some girls think, man, he really was into her.
01:12:52.000You know, he really loved her because look at what he's doing on the other side.
01:12:56.000And that's just a tricky little trap that we gotta transcend.
01:13:41.000That's this old paradigm that is in dire need of transcendence.
01:13:46.000And the need is basically, you know, we have to be fully full.
01:13:49.000I think Don Miguel Ruiz makes the example of, you know, Create enough self-love, enough self-satisfaction, enough inside yourself that you don't need anything from anybody else.
01:13:58.000Your kitchen is fully stocked, so you're not starving.
01:14:02.000You stock your own kitchen with your own self-fulfillment, and then you don't need to eat any little burger that comes on the side of the road or some hot dog from a stand, whatever you can get, because you're starving.
01:14:12.000You've got plenty to eat, and that's, I think, the analogy that we need to have.
01:14:17.000We need to have standards as human beings that we accept of ourselves.
01:14:21.000Like, what you shouldn't accept from yourself, don't accept from yourself that you're the guy that's gonna be outside someone's house at 3 o'clock in the morning shining a headlight through their fucking windows and throwing beer cans.
01:15:49.000It's like my four-year-old and my six-year-old were having an argument today because my six-year-old was letting the four-year-old write on her paper for a while.
01:15:59.000But then she's like, write on your own paper.
01:16:48.000But then as you get more practice at that, that should become more and more absurd with every passing year.
01:16:54.000If we just committed to that, committed to not...
01:16:59.000Going after people and fucking with people's lives, like showing up at someone's house 3 o'clock in the morning and shining your headlights in the throat.
01:17:46.000If you could get a group of friends like we have, we have a group of like 15 dudes that I would give a million bucks to in a bag and never counted if they gave it back to me.
01:18:14.000Yeah, and I think that's a big key of how to improve our situation is maybe we won't be able to get the whole town, but we can start getting these tribes around us.
01:19:26.000One of the top-level, high-level gyms in the country, particularly for the lighter weight classes.
01:19:32.000Like, they have 135-pound champion TJ Dillashaw, and there's a wealth of, like, real good talent in there, including guys you haven't even heard of yet that you will hear of soon.
01:19:41.000But the point being is that he's got it set up where he can kind of do whatever the fuck he wants.
01:19:47.000You know, he has it set up where he's got, you know, he's got the housing business, he's got the gym he runs, he's got all these different things going on at the same time.
01:20:15.000And it's probably the single thing that would improve people's quality of life way more than the neighborhood or whatever other reasons they're living somewhere is being around the proximity of those people who enrich your life, make it better.
01:20:26.000Well, Uriah's a real leader, you know, and what he's figured out how to do there is to create this atmosphere, first of all, super supportive, recruits guys, recruited TJ Dillashaw, who's the champ in his weight class, and then when they offered him a shot of TJ recently, he's like, yeah, you know what?
01:20:40.000I'll fight Frankie Edgar at 145. Let's have a fucking super fight.
01:20:46.000You gotta love that he thinks like that.
01:20:47.000I just love that setup of all the houses on a block.
01:20:51.000Yeah, and you know, that's going to be possible for some, and I think that's great.
01:20:55.000And one of the great things about what he's done, to really make tribe, you've got to go back to ritual and these different bonding experiences that allow you to reach that level of trust.
01:21:04.000You know, shared suffering, you know, the people that you've been in combat together, like Uriah and all those people.
01:21:10.000That says a lot, because at a certain point, there's a lot of ways to test people, you know, to a certain degree and go through something together.
01:21:16.000Obviously physical exertion like that, like rolling with somebody, you learn a ton about them.
01:21:20.000Or doing a psychedelic experience with somebody.
01:21:22.000You know, you both drink a coffee cup full of ayahuasca, you're going to learn a lot about somebody at that point.
01:21:28.000Same with all of these different rituals that have been developed.
01:21:31.000Put your hand in a mitt full of bullet ants, you're going to learn a lot about a motherfucker, what happens when that pain hits and it's overwhelming.
01:21:38.000You know, and those were key parts of these societies that We've lost, and it just kind of happens to certain people, and you get this closeness, you know, and I think intentionally bringing that back is going to be really important as well as these new tribal units form.
01:21:54.000Well, we have education as far as mathematics, we have education as far as history, we have education as far as grammar and English and language and literature and all these different things that we teach as standard in school, but we don't teach Men,
01:22:15.000And I think that martial arts, just having the ability to understand how to use your body to defend yourself, psychologically alleviates so much pressure that some people just face and go through life with.
01:22:32.000And the psychological relieving of that, I think, is an aid to enhancing and understanding other aspects of your life.
01:22:42.000Also, along the way, while you're doing martial arts, you're doing something difficult, and you push yourself very hard, and you learn about what are these feelings inside you that make you want to quit, when you know you can keep going.
01:22:56.000If the instructor goes, keep going, keep going, 30 seconds left, and you're doing a flurry on the bag, and you just want to stop.
01:23:02.000Like, if you were alone, you would stop.
01:23:05.000And then you understand that you can keep going.
01:23:07.000And then you understand, okay, well, if I can keep going here, I can keep going in a sparring session.
01:23:11.000If I can keep going in a sparring session, I can keep going in competition.
01:23:13.000I can count on myself to when I feel really fucking uncomfortable to hold it together.
01:23:19.000Because I've experienced that state, I understand what it is, and I refuse to let the limiting negative aspects of that state affect my performance.
01:23:27.000I will do everything that my body is physically capable of doing and nothing less.
01:23:31.000I'm not going to sell it short with a weak mind.
01:23:33.000But until you've experienced that, it's very difficult to have any confidence in your ability to overwhelm any sort of adversity or overcome any sort of adversity.
01:23:42.000You don't really ever know if you can do it.
01:23:44.000So you're always going to have this weird thing.
01:23:46.000And the difference between men that I know that have experienced that and do it, you know, do difficult things.
01:24:35.000It's kind of a perfect storm of two things because you're pushing through immense physical suffering at a certain point, which is incredibly valuable, plus immense fear.
01:24:44.000And a lot of other things have maybe one of the two, like marathon running, immense physical suffering, no fear.
01:24:49.000Big wave surfing, immense fear, no physical suffering, except maybe when you get crashed into some coral or something bad happens.
01:24:56.000And those are good practices, but I think what you're hitting on is that martial arts hits both, and so you have to transcend both.
01:25:02.000So you'll respond well in situations that are causing fear to come up, and you'll respond well in situations that are particularly challenging on the physical aspect of things.
01:25:11.000And it's almost like the opposite of that famous Musashi quote, which said, know the way broadly and you'll see it all things.
01:25:17.000Know the way narrowly, and you will be able to apply it broadly.
01:25:20.000You know, if you reach really great levels in something specific like that, you'll be able to use that for the rest of your life in everything.
01:25:27.000It's just, I really think it should be almost required.
01:25:54.000As far as character building, character is only built necessarily under pressure.
01:26:00.000It's very hard to build character when you're just a person who's won the lottery when you're three, and you sat around all day eating cake.
01:26:11.000You kind of have to go through some shit.
01:26:13.000And I think that's one of the issues with a lot of people in this kind of new age movement, hippies if you want to call them, or whatever your name for them might be, the people in that consciousness movement, let's say, is that there's some part of you when you meet some of them who haven't really been tested where you think,
01:26:32.000I see that you haven't really tested yourself under immense pressure.
01:26:37.000You get this kind of feeling like, what happens if things really get shitty?
01:26:41.000Am I going to be able to count on you and trust you?
01:26:43.000All of these things that you're proposing, are they all going to go to shit?
01:26:49.000And so I think everybody on both sides are missing this kind of...
01:26:54.000The dualism of having both, of being able to reach high levels of consciousness, but also put yourself on a mat with someone who you know inevitably in 30 seconds to 5 minutes is going to choke you out.
01:27:08.000Know that you're going to go through that and what that goes through your body.
01:27:11.000Being able to do both, I think, is the next wave.
01:27:15.000Too many times people are on the polarity of that.
01:27:19.000They're either really good at the jiu-jitsu side, but they haven't You know push through the realms of consciousness either through Kundalini or psychedelics or meditation or these other things and Conversely on the other side.
01:27:30.000They haven't tasted what it's feel like to push through extreme fear and adversity adversity Yeah, it's almost like Your car that you're driving through life will work better if you run it over more mountains.
01:27:48.000It'll work better if you put it in danger.
01:27:51.000It'll work better if you slam on the brakes more.
01:28:08.000Information is available to basically any human being can get a world-class education online.
01:28:14.000But because of everything being so easy to get food and easy to take care of yourself in comparison to how it was when you're fighting off predators, you don't really use your body that much.
01:28:47.000They did this thing on hunter-gatherers and the difference between the bone structure of the hunter-gatherer and the bone structure of the modern-day man.
01:28:55.000They're looking at modern humans, and the deterioration of the mass of the bones, and the hands are getting smaller, and the tendons are getting weaker.
01:29:03.000We're becoming like those goddamn gray aliens.
01:29:07.000I mean, we're slowly but surely going from what we think of as a caveman, just fucking gnarly.
01:29:14.000Those Neanderthals, especially, they were like 5'5", 200-plus pounds, just tanks, giant bones, and fucking thick heads and shit.
01:29:24.000I mean, they were out there huffing it every day.
01:29:27.000And because we're not doing that, everything is, like, feminizing.
01:29:32.000Everything is, like, becoming weaker and weaker and weaker.
01:29:35.000And then we're missing out on a key element of the magic of this fucking experience.
01:29:41.000You know, this turn in this dimension...
01:29:43.000Part of the fun of it is feeling what the body can do and feeling those feelings.
01:29:48.000And if we turn into that gray alien type, we're going to be fucking bummed out.
01:29:52.000I actually had a vision of that in my ayahuasca session, the last one that I went on, where this alien being came in and I was like, well, what's it like being an alien?
01:30:27.000But everything that we get to do, all of the physical pleasures of this world, he's like, yeah, there's other pleasures of this other realm, this realm of pure consciousness, where everything is smooth, we're generally in a state of bliss, but we're missing the extremes of these physical pleasures,
01:30:53.000You know, that's something that, especially people that don't exercise, they don't take that into consideration when they dismiss it as being some ego-propping device.
01:31:58.000And pretending that somehow or another that if you are fit or if you're muscular or strong, that somehow or another you must be diminished mentally.
01:32:05.000Because that energy that you put into getting those muscles, you weren't studying.
01:32:10.000You want to go, are you studying all day, you fuck?
01:32:30.000John Donaher, who's one of the most brilliant people you're ever going to meet, jiu-jitsu instructor from New York, he was a philosophy major.
01:32:38.000And he was a bodybuilder at the same time.
01:32:40.000He was into powerlifting and shit when he first found jiu-jitsu.
01:32:44.000And he took jiu-jitsu because he wanted to have some skills in case he was in altercations as a bouncer, because he was making a living doing that at night while he was a student.
01:32:54.000So it's like this idea that somehow or another strength or masculinity, it goes hand in hand with being an idiot.
01:33:02.000It's hilarious that they've actually managed to somehow or another, not they, it's some concerted effort, but the weak souls amongst us that don't want to really look at themselves honestly.
01:33:23.000So they have this same prejudice when really, eventually, you know, the wisest of us are just going to drop all that and say, hey, I want to fucking do it all.
01:33:30.000Because that's what's capable for the human being.
01:34:56.000Almost something designed to keep people at odds with each other.
01:35:00.000Because if you looked at it in terms of just the issues, then you could debate the issues individually, on their own merit, and they wouldn't be attached.
01:35:08.000Like, pro-life is constantly attached to the right.
01:35:13.000There's certain gay rights constantly attached to the left.
01:37:12.000I can see maybe where my thoughts have created this body type and this thing.
01:37:15.000Obviously you're just playing a game, but you're putting yourself actually in everybody's position and understanding they're not that fucking different You know, they just had different genetics different backgrounds and different choices that they made.
01:37:26.000Yeah, I've talked about it on stage that I had this experience I wrote about it.
01:37:33.000I had this experience when my My first daughter was about to be born, and I was in Hawaii, and I was on a boat, and I was super high, and these dolphins were jumping around next to the boat, and I was on this insane edible.
01:37:50.000I was so far gone that I had this weird connection with these dolphins, and I realized how intelligent they were.
01:37:59.000And I thought, like, I wonder if they're like people.
01:38:02.000I wonder if, like, I lived a dolphin's life, I would be like a dolphin.
01:38:05.000Like, if you lived in that water, like, if you have, you think of you, who you are, and if you were in a dolphin's body, I wonder if you literally would be a dolphin.
01:38:12.000Then I thought about it, and I was like, what if that's how every human being is?
01:38:16.000That we're all exactly the same thing, but we're living through different biological filters, different life experiences, different genetics.
01:38:23.000But if you lived my life, you would be me.
01:38:25.000And if I lived your life, I would be you.
01:38:28.000And that it's an illusion that And that's what the illusion of separateness is really all about.
01:38:33.000Everyone's like, there's not an illusion, dude.
01:38:50.000The illusion is that because we live these separate experiences, that If we all had the agreement that we'd treat each other as if it was us living another life, the world would instantly be better.
01:39:06.000There's all sorts of radical ideologies that people push.
01:39:10.000There's all sorts of radical religions and behavior choices and all sorts of different things that people want other people to subscribe to and want other people to adhere to.
01:39:18.000But there's a really simple one, a really simple one that's almost a one-liner.
01:39:23.000Treat everybody as if it's you living another life.
01:39:26.000And if you did do that, if it turned out to be true, if we, some fucking Nobel Prize winning egghead, figured out in a laboratory that if, like, you could literally take the essence of who is Aubrey Marcus and throw it in Jamie Vernon's body,
01:39:42.000you'd be Jamie, if you lived his life up until now.
01:40:25.000It's you in a different life and a different filter and different biological switches that have been hit.
01:40:30.000I think that's why it's so hard to be around people that are falling apart.
01:40:35.000I was at the Comedy Store the other night and this woman who used to be a comedian, I don't think she's a comedian anymore, came around and she was drunk and fucked up and confused and she hadn't...
01:40:44.000Done stand-up in a long time, and she's probably like close to 60 now.
01:40:47.000She's old as fuck, but it just never worked out She's never she was like only an open-miker like 20 years ago, but she kind of would always kind of hang around still and To see her now You know it's it's it's really hard to see someone like like she would try to talk to us But no one could tell anything and everyone's terrified.
01:41:05.000She's gonna say hey getting you know, can you guys put me up sometime?
01:41:10.000You know, everyone's terrified she's gonna ask for some sort of comedy help, you know But you got to think like what does it feel like to be that person?
01:41:17.000Like what what what synapses don't fire what life experience stunts your emotional growth?
01:41:26.000What gives you these blinders that you can't realize the fact that the audience sees you in a way that you don't see yourself So this is this comedy thing is never gonna work Like, you don't even know what you look like.
01:42:14.000But when you have that attitude where you start looking at people, just as you said, that could be me, the only proper response is empathy.
01:42:21.000Even if it's someone that perpetrates something against you, and this is a really challenging thing to do, yeah.
01:43:52.000Like, live these other multiple lives and you'll have, you'll understand that, yeah, you know, that could be me and what, and it'll start to evaporate that from an early age.
01:44:01.000I think putting it in the school system is brilliant.
01:46:05.000Yeah, well, these witch hunts have existed.
01:46:07.000And again, tapping into these old mechanisms, these fear responses, these tribalism instincts.
01:46:14.000And, you know, these witch hunts, we think, oh, the witch hunts are over.
01:46:17.000Well, at one point, they're called witch hunts because they were literally hunting witches, throwing them in the water, and seeing if they would swim.
01:47:18.000This idea of these people that are non-experienced in these states of mind, they don't really know what they're talking about from a personal level, dictating the legality of those experiences is ridiculous.
01:47:29.000And if those are the people that are locking you up, I'm kind of on your side.
01:48:03.000Like, this is like, the worst way to deal with someone who's doing something to alter their consciousness is to put them in a fucking cage.
01:48:27.000And the chimpanzee found something that reliably made him laugh his ass off and made him a better chimpanzee.
01:48:33.000You know, what kind of owner would we be if we took that chimp and then threw him in the worst conditions in the tiniest cage and took away his freedom for doing that?
01:48:42.000We'd think that person is a fucking despot.
01:49:17.000Some fun shit happens when you don't like your opponent.
01:49:21.000That's true, but I don't know that that has to go.
01:49:24.000You know, I mean, I think that you can look at that opponent like, alright, he's the motherfucking mountain that's going to bring the best out of me.
01:49:33.000I loved it when Daniel Cormier said, I mean, obviously the fight wasn't that great, but he said, I've been waiting my whole life for a man who's my equal.
01:50:21.000It was extra crazy to watch because there was so much.
01:50:23.000Like when Ronda Rousey fought Misha Tate, and they went through that whole season, the ultimate fighter together, and fuck.
01:50:28.000And there's all this fucking craziness and all this anger and then Rhonda beats her ass and gets her in an arm bar again after all that like you're like wow That was wild to watch.
01:50:38.000You're watching something like super primal Like you're not just watching it on a technical level where you watch two very high level martial artists like she was the first person to push her You know deep into the second and third round.
01:50:48.000I think she caught her in the fourth round if I remember correctly.
01:50:50.000It was third or fourth But, point being, like, they just didn't like each other, and that made it juicier.
01:50:57.000It raises the emotional stakes, and I think that's also what's interesting, too.
01:51:01.000Like, how are they going to perform when the stakes are even this high, and even this high, and even this high?
01:51:06.000And when they hate each other, you know that it just escalates things, you know, to an even higher degree.
01:51:12.000And that's, I think, why we even like watching the playoffs, is it's not that somebody gets a little trophy, and that's part of it, but it's, oh, now the stakes are higher.
01:51:20.000People are going to be crying after the game if they lose, and they're going to be ecstatic if they win, unlike the regular season where it's like, yeah, okay, it's just a game.
01:51:28.000When the stakes get higher, it becomes more interesting because we're interested in the reaction that humans are going to have in these different scenarios.
01:51:39.000I remember being a kid and watching boxing matches and seeing guys get beat up against the ropes or something like that, and you almost see yourself moving.
01:51:50.000You're trying to figure out, what should he do?
01:52:26.000You're almost like getting beat up yourself.
01:52:28.000I remember one of the most terrifying moments I had, because I've done striking since I was little, never that serious, but I had a lot of instructors who were very complimentary early.
01:52:37.000So they had me believing that, man, Aubrey, you hit someone, they're done, son.
01:52:42.000I had this kind of false belief, and obviously once I started sparring, I realized that that wasn't the case, but I had some remnants.
01:52:49.000Of that, that I was carrying, and then I saw Kimbo slice in one of these street fights, right?
01:52:54.000In a bare knuckle fight, and this other huge dude catches him with a left hook, and Kimbo just drops his hand and goes, hit me again, motherfucker, hit me again, and just leans forward with his head, and the other dude hits him again and does nothing.
01:53:47.000We look at it in terms of its success in weight classes, and the really big, strong guys don't necessarily tend to be the best guys in the weight class.
01:53:54.000It's about whose body's optimized for that weight class, so you don't really want to be carrying around a lot of muscle.
01:53:59.000But if you are, and someone's smaller than you, it makes you better.
01:54:03.000It makes you fucking bigger and stronger and everything works better.
01:54:08.000It might not work as good against another guy who's 240 pounds who's like got a leaner body and better lungs, but, you know, Kimbo Slice is a goddamn giant human being who can punch people in the face all the time with no gloves on.
01:54:28.000He was a guy that, you know, I think never really fought to what his physical capability was.
01:54:33.000Like, his hardware had a certain potential, like the limits on it.
01:54:36.000Like, if you look at him like a computer, he's like, oh, it's got this much, you know, these attributes, this much remedy, this much memory, this much RAM, blah, blah, blah.
01:54:42.000But the software running it inside the cage, I felt like never optimized what his gifts were, you know?
01:54:49.000Another one of those interesting things where psychologically it didn't bring the best out of what his frame Could be.
01:54:57.000You know, he had problems before he ever even got on the Ultimate Fighter with his knees.
01:55:00.000His knees are pretty significantly diminished.
01:55:03.000He has, like, serious, like, bone-on-bone, like, arthritis-type conditions in his knees.
01:55:08.000And so, like, for him, like, grappling is an issue, kicking's an issue, all those things are issues, you know, and he, you know, he had a lifetime of sports, football, and, you know, did a lot of, uh, Striking training obviously all the over the years man chewed that shit up especially football football's brutal on the knees man carrying porn stars in and out of limos that happens You know he had to do that a lot do that.
01:55:33.000Yeah probably he's he's also He's in a weird time like he might be like a little too Late for like all the rejuvenation shit that they're coming up with right now like they're 3d mapping meniscus Have you seen this?
01:55:47.000Dude, they have some article about how they're 3D mapping essentially what it looks like.
01:56:09.000It feels way better than when it was fucked up.
01:56:13.000Now what they're doing is they're just taking it all out, and they're putting this 3D thing that they 3D print, and with these proteins in it, your body starts building meniscus inside this framework somehow or another.
01:56:52.000And I think the crazy thing that we alluded to, they'll come a point where I believe we'll be able to upload our consciousness into a brand new car.
01:57:01.000You know, and that will be the point of immortality to a certain degree because you could just keep creating these new cars and then just upload your car.
01:57:10.000Oh shit, I fucking fucked this one up.
01:57:18.000What if heaven is just getting over this body and achieving the next state of consciousness, which is non-local, completely undependent upon your physical prison, but you were like, dude, you were just going to get out of jail, and you decided to transfer your sentence to some cyber prison where you'll live in your own mind forever and ever and ever,
01:57:40.000repeating yourself ad nauseum through space.
01:57:44.000Instead, you could have been one with the great consciousness of the universe.
01:57:47.000Especially if no one who passed over to the other side could communicate.
01:57:50.000You know, they'd be just yelling from the other...
01:58:10.000I've been talking about that for years, about that simulation theory.
01:58:16.000I talked to this guy, Richard Turiel, who's from the JPL Laboratories, when I was doing that Joe Rogan Questions Everything show.
01:58:23.000For whatever reason, when you talk to a serious, legitimate, working scientist, an actual doctor of science, If you talk to them about it, it just makes it seem like way more palatable than if you talk to Duncan.
01:58:37.000But when Duncan talks about it, it seems a little bit more sexy.
01:58:40.000But this guy, what he was saying essentially is that it's basically inevitable that we're going to come up with some sort of an artificial reality.
01:58:50.000That is indiscernible from the reality that we're currently enjoying.
01:58:59.000It's going to get better and better as the technology moves on and on.
01:59:02.000It's going to get to a point where you literally are not going to be able to tell the difference.
01:59:05.000And if that's the case, Has that already happened?
01:59:09.000And if it has already happened, would you be able to be aware of it?
01:59:13.000What would you be if we had gotten past this?
01:59:15.000Well, if you go back to fucking gorillas, you look at gorillas, you look at lower primates, you look at these dick-swinging monkeys hanging out in Africa, you know, just swinging from tree to tree until somebody figured out how to become a person, right?
01:59:26.000Over all these years, however the hell it went.
01:59:39.000Like, we know the big head, no mouth, you don't need to talk.
01:59:42.000You wear permanent sunglasses because you fucked up the ozone layer.
01:59:46.000You know, your skin is like some sort of a gray bulletproof material that we've, you know, you don't have any sex organs because you can experience any pleasurable Kundalini yoga state in your mind anytime you want.
01:59:57.000Like regular blowjobs is just not that exciting when you can, you know, travel from dimension to dimension.
02:00:02.000That might even be how they're arriving and going back and forth.
02:00:06.000But there might be a part of them miss his head.
02:00:49.000Throughout all of it, throughout people complaining about fat shaming and, you know, all the weird uber sensitivity that you see today.
02:00:59.000The trend, though, all of it seems to be this kind of emerging understanding of how we interact with each other.
02:01:07.000It's like, there's battles back and forth, there's waves, but like, if you're looking at like, what is this, when this, all this water settles, what am I seeing here?
02:01:19.000Emerging understanding and along the way there's a lot of competing factions that want to be the most morally upstanding and take the high ground and be the one who is always there to call bullshit and the social justice warriors that are Just looking to be mean so that they can prove to you the way to live right.
02:01:34.000Like looking to find people aren't living the way they're living and just shitting all over them and shame them into a different way of thinking.
02:01:42.000It's an emerging understanding of what we are and the connectivity that we share and the demands.
02:01:49.000Like when you see these Black Lives Matter marches and these protests, these people would walk around in these I Can't Breathe shirts.
02:01:57.000They're expanding this understanding of the reach of the upset people.
02:02:03.000Like, this is not a minor thing that you can only, you know, vote about every four years.
02:02:08.000This is something you can put a giant ripple in the entire culture right now by everybody just wearing a bunch of t-shirts that say something on it.
02:02:16.000And then everybody realizes, like, okay, this is, it's not just a social media trend.
02:02:56.000And we're able to draw wisdom, pieces of wisdom, from all different disciplines.
02:03:00.000And that's been something cool that I've Seeing as I've gotten, you know, the ability to reach more different people, experts in certain things, you know, will come in and add a little piece of understanding from their traditional scope where, you know, most people wouldn't even get to put that in part of their framework.
02:03:17.000You know, and you get to add that piece and add this piece over here.
02:03:20.000Like, you know, I can get a piece from Duncan about Buddhism.
02:03:23.000And one of these great pieces that he added recently is the Buddhists have a name for that visceral feeling you get right before you do something bad and get angry at someone or that emotion.
02:03:35.000Well, the Buddhists have a name for that little feeling that comes up.
02:03:38.000You know, I was like, oh yeah, I've felt that little fucking thing that comes out.
02:03:42.000It's like this rush of energy right before you do something, you know, you really know that you shouldn't do.
02:03:47.000And then so you add that little piece of understanding, aha, the name of that thing is this, so I can be more conscious of it and aware of it.
02:03:54.000And then I have another friend, you know, Ted, who studies the Christian text and puts new meaning to what those things were before they were manipulated for power and kind of maneuvered and Like, ah, okay, so we can add that.
02:04:07.000And then so you start to piece together this understanding where, of course, there's no leader.
02:04:11.000It's just led by, you know, truth and consciousness.
02:04:14.000And that's, I think, the next wave is just finding what feels real, what feels right, what you can use to make your life better.
02:04:23.000Also, we just know, there's so much information available today, I think it's easier to kind of get an understanding of what's tripping you up.
02:04:30.000You know, it's easier to get an understanding of, like, there's a lot of people that behave in a certain way, like that Redneck song that we're talking about.
02:04:37.000And they've been supporting that, and they've been like, man, he had to do what he had to do.
02:04:41.000You know, he had to do what he had to do.
02:05:04.000Like it gets polluted, like polluted with he gotta do what he gotta do.
02:05:07.000You know, like there's areas of the country that for the longest time were polluted, where if you were in an interracial relationship, you couldn't walk down the street.
02:05:15.000If you walked down the street, you would risk physical attack.
02:05:19.000Because you had a black girlfriend, or you had a white girlfriend, and you're a black guy, or whatever.
02:05:25.000That was a reality for a long time in the South.
02:05:33.000There's places you go, there's weird places in Texas where you take a few left turns, you drive for a few hours, and all of a sudden you're in this fucking weird place.
02:05:42.000And there's some people that don't have a whole lot of contact with the outside world.
02:06:12.000You know, the big push is always just that human beings are constantly trying to improve.
02:06:18.000I mean, we constantly try to improve everything.
02:06:20.000And we're going to try to improve culture and relations and understanding.
02:06:24.000And if you look at the way things are now, as opposed to the way they were just in the early 1900s, I mean, the changes have been pretty fucking dramatic.
02:06:33.000From 1900 to 2015 is, you know, massive.
02:06:48.000It takes this hockey stick curve way up because things are going so fast.
02:06:53.000But I think one point that you've made often is, you know, these conditions that are really fucked up, they have a reaction on the other side.
02:07:00.000They form resistance that allows people to actually Propel themselves even farther in the other direction.
02:07:07.000You know, it's like the action has a reaction.
02:07:09.000So the bias towards, you know, the racial bias, for example, can actually potentially propel people the other side to make greater leaps in consciousness and understanding what we're talking about, that we're all just ourselves living another life.
02:07:24.000You know, like these conditions can create a positive response.
02:07:28.000And I think that's kind of what we're seeing at this point.
02:07:31.000Yeah, and then the social justice warrior overreaction is really just a reach.
02:07:36.000It's like a comedian who makes a shitty joke.
02:07:40.000It's essentially the same kind of thing.
02:07:44.000I think there's a lot of white people, especially when anything goes wrong, where they are struggling to appear down.
02:07:52.000You know, and they'll sometimes be racist against white people in order to show that they love black people so much and they're not racist at all.
02:07:59.000There's a bunch of people that I follow and I can't tell you who they are because then they'll know and they'll change their behavior and it'll affect my studies.
02:08:06.000But it's fascinating to see people like write racist stuff against white people.
02:09:36.000And they automatically aside with the woman's...
02:09:39.000With the woman's take on things and when you see that especially when it gets revealed the one was full of shit later It's always so juicy and glorious.
02:09:46.000I love following those fucking trails and watching it all play out It's just it's so bizarre.
02:09:51.000It's so bizarre to watch that behavior that Smeagol from the fucking Lord of the Rings like behavior And that's really what it's like.
02:10:00.000They're like It's like you're distorting reality for your own benefit to try to appear that you're adhering to a higher moral standard than those around you to make yourself look more desirable.
02:10:11.000It's really that simple, and it's fucking gross.
02:10:14.000And people's, you know, at that point, people's belief detectors, that thing that we use to know when someone's faulty and cracked, they start going haywire, you know?
02:10:42.000I feel like there's a state of acceptance that you should probably achieve instead of either or.
02:10:48.000Just being what you're capable of being, that's it.
02:10:52.000Yeah, you don't have to try to be alpha.
02:10:54.000There's this one quote that I've been kind of stuck on recently, and it pertains to starting right now at this point, and it's from William Butler Yeats, and he said, Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot, but make the iron hot by striking.
02:11:44.000We've dismantled Butler Yeats as a blacksmith.
02:11:47.000But the idea is, you know, just fucking go at it by start, just start doing it.
02:11:52.000You know, I mean, we're talking all this philosophy about what you can, and that may seem out of reach to people, like, oh, how am I going to do that?
02:11:58.000How would I, you know, do martial arts?
02:12:03.000You don't wait for this perfect opportunity when job and money and everything aligns and You read your fucking horoscope in the paper, and it says you're gonna try new things this day, and everything is just perfect.
02:13:08.000You know, you can't give anybody advice because, you know, like if you're talking to someone and they want to be a lounge singer and they sound like shit, and you go, well, first of all, lounge singing?
02:13:15.000I don't know if there's a future in that.
02:13:16.000And second of all, dude, your voice is dog shit.
02:13:25.000So he's got to fucking, you can't give everyone advice, but what you can do Have these kind of conversations be really honest about what's worked and what hasn't worked for you and Point out all the shit that you're noticing in this crazy world.
02:13:40.000That's what we've been able to do That's what most folks that are online that are tuned into the world have been able to do with information and news and and and just Discussion that that's going on now and that really Hasn't ever taken place like this before amongst people,
02:13:57.000where people are like debating issues all across the country, and whether it's fucking Obamacare, or whether it's the fucking invasion of Persia, whatever the fuck it is, isn't even a country anymore, is it?
02:14:09.000You know what I'm saying, anything that's going on in the world, The ability to write blogs, to discuss it, to have people leaving comments on those blogs, to have people writing tweets, responding to those tweets, those tweets becoming articles.
02:14:21.000Let's debate the merits of this tweet.
02:14:23.000This is like, whether it's right or wrong, whether it's ideologically driven, whether it's honest or manipulated, it's a weird exchange.
02:14:32.000There's an exchange of data that's going on now.
02:14:35.000In this really weird state that I think we're just so caught up in it that we're not realizing how much is changing.
02:14:43.000You're not supposed to say retard anymore.
02:15:44.000That's the way that, you know, that's the way that we got to do it.
02:15:48.000Not remove all of these potential things that can hurt you.
02:15:50.000Just tell people, hey, motherfucker, you're invincible as far as your emotional state if you want to be.
02:15:56.000Also, it's really, you make a person more vulnerable when you make words taboo.
02:16:03.000You make those words have more power, whether those words are racial, whether they're about gender or sexual orientation, whatever the slurs are, you make them way more powerful when you make them taboo.
02:16:15.000If you call someone a fucker, if that hurts your feelings, we can't talk.
02:17:55.000But, you know, if anybody has a problem with that, like, you'd either think that Jamie's really capable of being homophobic and using a slur to, like, he hates you so much that a simple act of lack of coordination and an accidental spilt beverage leads to this fucking unleashing of these horrible phrases at you.
02:18:17.000Well, it's like, you know, you're a parent and when you have a kid and if they do something like they fall down and they kind of bump their knee or something, if you go, oh my God, what did you do?
02:19:22.000I see wanting to never be around someone who drops M-bombs, you know, and wanting to not be around someone who's prejudiced against someone.
02:19:30.000Sure, because it's the consciousness that's the problem.
02:19:36.000We're trying to look at these downstream effects, but really the problem there is you're with an unconscious person who fails to see the platinum rule, which is we're all the same fucking person.
02:19:45.000Yeah, and the real attention should be focused on enhancing our understanding of each other, enhancing our understanding of our true connectivity, and not of demonizing the noises that you make out of your face.
02:20:04.000It's like, I appreciate your horror in the expression of racism, but I just think that the best way to approach it is to, first of all, lead by example, be someone who you would want to imitate.
02:20:49.000We're way more way more dependent upon the atmosphere of others and the the the Inspiration of others than we like to pretend we're way more way more and I think that One of the bad things about short-sighted,
02:21:06.000black and white issues, and I don't mean black and white in a literal sense, I mean as far as someone never using a word.
02:21:15.000It's like, well, the human mind is capable of a lot of different subtleties and variations, and when you're talking about language especially, you're dealing with a lot of subtlety.
02:21:24.000You're dealing with some really funny things that go on with people, and some of those funny things make personalities exciting.
02:21:30.000Like, Neil Brennan had this fucking hilarious joke.
02:21:32.000Where he used to do this thing all the time with his friends in New York.
02:21:37.000Where he would go, what's going on with the weather today?
02:23:11.000Like, oftentimes, like, you'll hear people speak in political terms or in very measured terms, and instead of making you feel calm, it actually makes you uneasy.
02:23:19.000He's like, oh, God, I don't even know what the fuck this guy really feels.
02:23:22.000Like, I'm getting this PC or this, uh, um, um, uh, I'm not getting the true emotion.
02:23:38.000The fact that we have to judge our politicians based on these really practice staged events rather than real adversity, you know, like that's where we should be able to judge our politicians.
02:23:48.000What happens when they're rolling for two hours and they're getting their ass kicked?
02:24:35.000But I think that if we did have some sort of an experience, even if it's just a physical trial, like if you had to watch them go through a mud race together, how would they push each other away?
02:24:47.000Do they concentrate on their own performance?
02:25:42.000I mean that's essentially what you're doing and if you want to get elected in this country and under especially those conditions back then maybe not as much now but you know it's kind of morphing in some weird place now.
02:26:13.000Like, that shit is not gonna keep flying.
02:26:16.000There's gonna come a point in time where we wanna watch you go to the jungle.
02:26:20.000How do you deal with mosquitoes when you're high as fuck?
02:26:23.000I want to see what happens if you eat some mushrooms and sit in a quiet room by yourself.
02:26:28.000I want to see what goes on in your mind when you eat a pot cookie and you think you're going to die and then you climb into an isolation tank.
02:26:34.000I want to know what the fuck goes on in there, man.
02:26:37.000What kind of thoughts about your high school did you have?
02:27:10.000I got some gout, something wrong with my balls.
02:27:13.000You know like you're gonna see you're gonna see who they really are other than that that nice person in that nice suit with the perfect smile Yeah, and I think that's the direction that things are going, you know, and I'm encouraged by that I think you know the internet's already gotten rid of a lot of the hypocrisy because things get found out You know,
02:27:30.000the transparency has increased, but as consciousness increases, I think the demand for a conscious leader will become overwhelming.
02:27:38.000And only when the demand for a conscious leader is there will one emerge and actually succeed.
02:27:44.000So, you know, instead of focusing on the politicians, let's just focus on raising consciousness everywhere so that the demand is so high that one will emerge to meet that demand.
02:27:54.000It's also we're in a situation where as far as education goes, as far as the roads, as far as like food, food comes in, we're dealing with like these structures that are already there.
02:28:07.000They're already there and people seek to improve them.
02:28:09.000They seek to improve the prison structures and the jail sentencing, you know, all the different bullshit that people hate about police brutality.
02:28:17.000They seek to improve those structures.
02:28:19.000Instead of like trying a new one, like from scratch, And that's what I think, like, when you see something like Waco, Texas, Waco's obviously a bad idea, what they did at the Vidian Complex, they stocked up weapons, they were shooting at the feds, some wild Texans running a cult,
02:28:35.000the guy was banging everybody's wife, allegedly.
02:28:37.000You know, that's how it goes when it goes wrong.
02:28:40.000But the idea of creating a community, like organizing and engineering a community with resources, including security, is a dangerous thought.
02:28:49.000Like, people go, hey, hey, what you trying to do?
02:30:09.000And people are like, hey man, it sounds like what you're talking about is fascists, and what you're talking about is private police and security teams.
02:30:14.000They're gonna be FEMA camps everywhere.
02:30:17.000Or, they're like every other business, and they become accountable for their actions in a way where you fire them.
02:30:43.000Have actually people in the community patrolling the community and getting paid by the community to do that.
02:30:47.000A lot of unemployed people that might make good cops and you could do all this shit in a way where it's profitable without having all these goddamn quotas that these people have to meet and these weird pressures that are on people that are in law enforcement.
02:31:00.000The more we can decentralize the structures, you know, go from federal rules to state rules.
02:31:05.000We've already seen the benefits of that in a state like Colorado, when they're able to make their own rules, you know?
02:31:11.000And then from there, if you go back even to where the towns can decide, you know, what the town should do.
02:31:16.000And the smaller you get, the more opportunity you have for these great situations to develop.
02:31:21.000And I think one of the paradigm cases, I read this book called The Fifth Sacred Thing, and it shows what happens when a utopian society clashes with the dystopian society.
02:31:32.000But the really cool part is seeing what the utopian structure looks like.
02:31:37.000Like, what a model of a totally cool place to live.
02:31:40.000Would be, if everything from the family structure to the rules to how they decide things to how they defend themselves to how everything works, what they celebrate, what the rituals are amongst that.
02:31:50.000And it's cool to be able to look at that and say, you know, that's possible.
02:31:54.000We just have to allow, you know, people to gather and create their own situation if they want to.
02:32:00.000It doesn't always have to go where the owner, it's all top-down and the owner fucks all the teenage girls.
02:32:05.000Just because that's happened time and time again doesn't mean that it has to happen that way.
02:32:10.000I think it's likely to happen less now that it's ever happened before, and I also don't think that it has to be centrally located, and I think that one of the things that we're experiencing with this exchange of information on the internet is you're finding a lot of like-minded people that are also trying to improve themselves.
02:32:25.000They're also being super honest about who they are, who they were, trying to improve themselves, and they get inspiration from other people like you or like anybody else that's out there that is also on that same path of self-improvement and honesty.
02:32:35.000And I think we find each other cyberly.
02:32:37.000I think we don't even necessarily have to live on Uriah Faber's block.
02:32:41.000I think what he's got is pretty sweet.
02:32:43.000That's probably the ideal way to do it, but if it's not available, it's also happening whether you like it or not.
02:33:21.000No one's got a lock on this crazy life.
02:33:23.000Spend less time pointing fingers at other people and shaming them for making a fat joke, and more time getting your own shit together, and we'll have a way better spot to hang out in.
02:33:33.000We will all have a way better spot across the globe.
02:33:45.000What's happening that I see is you have your nuclear tribe, those 15 people you say that you could give them a million dollars and never even blink an eye.
02:33:52.000You wouldn't even get nervous about it, you know?
02:33:55.000And so when you start to develop these nuclear tribes and then getting gatherings together, You know, I think is another important thing.
02:34:01.000Like say, hey, everybody, let's all meet for these five days and hang out and have fun.
02:34:07.000And I think that'll be a cool aspect of consciously bringing into that.
02:34:10.000But then you have like the mega tribe beyond the nuclear tribe.
02:34:13.000And that's like all the people listening to the show where, you know, they're sharing a certain sentiment.
02:34:18.000So it's not like you're total strangers when you meet.
02:34:22.000There's a part of you that's already connected.
02:34:41.000You got them in a bad patch of Burning Man, rogue community of dirty sandals.
02:34:47.000But they would feel themselves, you know, they would feel weird in that because the whole collective would end up trying to force them out, like pus in the skin.
02:34:55.000It would become a pimple that would eventually pop and bail the fuck out of there, you know?
02:34:59.000The collective organism would reject it.
02:35:02.000Yeah, and I think the things like Burning Man and the growth of that, which is so big, it gets sold out every year, like, in advance.
02:36:15.000It's what the Aborigines did at Uluru at Ayers Rock.
02:36:17.000You know, like every once in a while you go to this one fucking spot and it's five days of crazy dream time and didgeridoos echoing through the whole place and it's a celebration and then you go back to your smaller units.
02:37:35.000If we just pick a spot somewhere and we say, hey, all people who liked what we were just talking about, let's meet at this general area for these four days and then, you know, see how it goes.
02:37:48.000But we've got to be somewhere where you can be high as fuck and not be in danger.
02:37:51.000That's why the The desert's good, because there's nothing out there.
02:37:54.000You can't go wandering off in the woods and get eaten by a bear.
02:37:56.000Like, if we did it in Alberta, we started losing hippies.
02:38:28.000As that plane is, fuck all that star-spangled banner shit, you'd be very happy to Pledge of Allegiance once that plane was leaving, and you hear guns go off behind your plane in Costa Rica.
02:38:38.000You realize, right as the insurgency takes over the new government, Take care.
02:39:01.000But I think at least the people that I'm in contact with, They're getting it and they're there.
02:39:07.000I feel like they're spreading and when I say getting it or you think you get it what I mean by that is this idea of Everybody trying to improve themselves and people just kind of being cool with each other.
02:39:18.000Yeah, and people being honest about All their attributes, the positives, the negatives, all that stuff.
02:39:27.000And part of getting it is knowing that you know nothing, really.
02:39:30.000It's just accepting the fact that we know incrementally less nothing, and sometimes maybe even more nothing, because the expanse of what is possible to know increases.
02:39:39.000And just understanding that we're just trying to figure it out to the best fucking way that we can.
02:40:14.000Like, that's why I love when I talk to someone like Brian Cox, who's this genius fucking scientist dude who works at the Large Hadron Collider and teaches fucking science to the whole world.
02:40:24.000If you ask him something he doesn't know, he goes, I don't know.
02:40:31.000That's important because one of the things that plagues human beings in their development is this lack of admitting to failure, this lack of admitting to not knowing something, this fear of your own ignorance and denial of it to the point where you're posturing in front of other people.
02:40:55.000Well, having something to defend because, again, it's this illusion of vulnerability.
02:40:59.000I need to defend these beliefs because if I don't have them, what am I? What am I without being right?
02:41:04.000Do I love myself if I'm not the smartest person in the room?
02:41:08.000Well, you got to let all that shit go.
02:41:10.000You know, and you gotta build your foundation on the rocks instead of these sandcastles, because that'll never fulfill you.
02:41:16.000If driving around in a certain car makes you feel good, or if being right and belittling people on the internet makes you feel good, it'll never actually work long-term to make you feel good.
02:41:26.000It'll be this hole that the more you throw in it, the bigger the hole gets.
02:41:30.000You know, you gotta find your own internal ways to feel that good and to feel that way.
02:41:35.000Everything else is just a sidetrack that's taking you backwards.
02:41:39.000Yeah, and it goes back to what we were talking about where people just automatically look to get in disagreements with people if they feel that they're on a different team, you know?