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00:03:49.000I was telling Joe, I was texting him at one point, because I was listening on Comedy Central, because I'm just addicted to stand-up comedy.
00:05:08.000I think pretty much anybody who's ever made anybody laugh can do stand-up.
00:05:12.000It's just a matter of, do you want to do it?
00:05:13.000If you wanted to do it, it would take a long fucking time.
00:05:16.000But we all know guys who sucked at it in the beginning, but they were just such fans of comedy, they just kept chipping away until eventually they figured it out.
00:07:02.000It's very borderline because you did a lot of shows where it was just you alone in the woods with a camera pointed at yourself and you had the lens, you know, like if you look at those little video cameras that Les used, you know, they have that viewer that you could look at you or you could turn the camera towards you and flip the viewer around and you could see what you're filming when you're filming yourself,
00:11:43.000You were dehydrated, you were shrinking, you would talk about it, you couldn't sleep, you had bugs crawling all over you, rats running across your fucking sleeping quarters.
00:13:40.000I do everything through, like, my son.
00:13:42.000I just wait, and he'll just, like, pick a show, and it's like, and The Walking Dead is one of those shows, we got this big screen at home, and I sat down beside him for, like, a moment.
00:14:25.000So how did you go from doing Survivorman to Survivorman Bigfoot?
00:14:30.000Now, you told a story on our show that I've repeated ad nauseum because it's a fascinating story about your first experience with something that you couldn't explain.
00:14:47.000The bottom line was I thought, okay...
00:14:50.000Who's the one person that you could take and drop in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of a Bigfoot hotspot, and leave them alone to see what happens?
00:21:00.000They only have a few bones, and they founded an apothecary shop in China in the early 1900s.
00:21:07.000Some guy found some teeth that he knew were not any known primate.
00:21:12.000And then he said, where'd you get these teeth?
00:21:14.000The people that run the apothecary shop lead him to this area, they do a dig, they find some jaw bones that indicate that this animal is most likely a bipedal primate, although that's under some dispute.
00:21:27.000So what this means is there was something that was somehow or another related to other primates.
00:21:32.000They think it might have been in the orangutan family, but this is a bipedal enormous animal that absolutely existed at the very latest 100,000 years ago.
00:21:44.000It could have been earlier, but they know 100,000 years ago that thing was alive.
00:21:49.000So 100,000 years ago, there were 100% human beings at the time, there was a fucking 8 to 10 foot tall, gigantic bipedal ape, which is Bigfoot.
00:22:14.000That's not totally true, because that Flores man, that hobbit man in the island of Flores, that little thing is dead, and that thing lived closer to today.
00:22:25.000They have bones from that little fucker that was like 13,000 years ago.
00:24:52.000And then those who are saying they see them or whatever, they're doctors, they're lawyers, they're conservation officers, they're hunters, they're anglers, they're hikers.
00:25:50.000And so now if you've got, let's say there's 8,000 Sasquatch in Ontario, and they're secret, and they're elusive, and they're intelligent, they're smart, and they bury their bones.
00:26:29.000And it's unfortunate because people like that, these people that want to make shit up, they confuse the fuck out of everybody who wants to believe.
00:26:37.000I think it's also confusing that you're using the word Bigfoot when that's not really what it is.
00:26:42.000It's more like finding giant, you know, another one of these big apes.
00:26:48.000Because putting, what, the original guy that made the Bigfoot name or whatever this big monster is, didn't they already find out that it was faked through the whole thing?
00:26:56.000Well, no, that guy didn't make the name.
00:28:05.000How many people are out in the woods dedicating their life to sticking a frickin' track in the mud in the middle of nowhere in the Sierra Nevadas or the Rocky Mountains?
00:28:40.000But, you know, the Thunderbirds thing is a weird one, too, man, because we know that there were certain species of bird that were enormous that went extinct.
00:28:48.000We also know there's a thing called the Terrorbird that lived before the last Ice Age went away.
00:28:54.000I believe they got them down to, like, 10,000-plus years ago.
00:28:58.000So it was like, you're talking about the Pleistocene, right?
00:29:01.000You're talking about when the saber-toothed tigers existed.
00:30:39.000You already tapped into something you're really super right about, the whole Native American perspective on Bigfoot and all that.
00:30:44.000If you go up into Winnipeg, and I was up there with them up there, they've got like their, you know, their seven teachings and stuff, and they're based on the raven and the wolf and the fox and the bear.
00:30:52.000And right in the middle, It's Sabe, Bigfoot.
00:31:00.000It's just like, it's not like, oh yeah, and there's a Thunderbird, there's a mythological...
00:31:04.000No, no, it's just seven normal animals, and in that span of seven normal animals, right in the middle is Bigfoot, what they consider to be a normal species that's there.
00:31:16.000They don't make the difference, they don't differentiate.
00:31:18.000Right now there's someone on the subway going, fuck you, Joe Rogan, I'm shutting this podcast off.
00:31:31.000But we know that goddamn animal, that Gigantopithecus was real, and here's where it's crazy.
00:31:36.000It was real in the exact area we absolutely know the human beings migrated from.
00:31:44.000They migrated from Asia across the Bering Strait when it was a landmass, where you can cross it walking.
00:31:50.000They came to North America, and where an animal like that would exist would be in the heavily dense forest of the Pacific Northwest, which is exactly where they would come across.
00:32:01.000They would come across through Alaska to the Pacific Northwest, and that's where you hear about them.
00:32:06.000It doesn't make sense That you would have a real animal that lived in a real place that you absolutely know existed, coexisted with human beings that were just like you and I. We have been in this form essentially, the scientists believe,
00:32:24.000So 100,000 years ago, they know this thing lived, and they know it lived where people were walking around, and they were walking all the way to America.
00:32:32.000So the question is, are they still there?
00:32:35.000One other thing, another question I'd like to ask, what do you do with someone who you respect, you admire, they're normal, they're sane, and then they say to you, look man, I don't care what you think.
00:35:51.000That's a technique I've never thought of.
00:35:53.000I mean, if you're going to be on your own for five days, you could eat a bunch of food, but wrap it up in plastic, and then later poop it out, then untake it out of the plastic.
00:35:59.000But then how would you get the nutrients from the food in the first place when it goes through your stomach and gets a piece of plastic?
00:36:30.000They maybe take a bunch of protein bars, wrap them up in plastic, eat it, and then poop it out in a couple days, and then unwrap the plastic, then eat it.
00:37:19.000Well, Brock Lesnar from the UFC got diverticulitis.
00:37:24.000Serious operation when they removed 12 inches of his colon.
00:37:27.000I found out about it, I looked into it, and I thought it was just because of eating meat, but Anthony Bourdain informed me that you could eat a seed, like you get like a sunflower seed or something stuck inside your tract, your digestive tract, and it starts an abscess and you get sick.
00:37:41.000Yeah, you can die from a fucking seed getting stuck.
00:37:45.000He's like, all kinds of stuff gets stuck in there.
00:38:26.000I never ever, on all the Survivor Man shows, I never ever prepared for the show by either trying to trim down and making my stomach smaller or by bulking up and having all the extra.
00:38:35.000I always figure, well, then that's not even realistic either.
00:38:37.000Whenever I start something, it's got to be like I just, you know, was going somewhere else and got lost.
00:39:46.000I woke up, and I swear I was in my mommy's sleeping bag, and I swear something was sitting on top of me, and I couldn't move.
00:39:52.000I tried to move, and it wasn't like, you know, you wake up in a half-dream, arm you were sleeping on is, like, all frozen, and you're like, ah, shit, a wolf's eating my arm.
00:40:37.000Better than that, not even a week ago today, I had to spend the majority of the night in a tree because it was literally, I'm not sensationalizing, there was a man-eating tiger down below me on the ground.
00:41:05.000I was up in the Jim Corbett Park area, northern India, north of Delhi, about a five-hour drive north of Delhi, and into the forest there, and I was like, you know, this area's not that bad.
00:43:55.000I'm like, alright, you know, what I'm going to have to do is probably stay here and stay here for the night sort of thing, get a fire going.
00:44:02.000And I hear some noise, and I go back about 400 or 500 yards, and in the middle of the jungle, the fucking forest, 50 people show up and have a Lord Shiva rave, and all of a sudden I hear...
00:44:23.000And I'm literally, so I'm in the middle of the forest surviving right now.
00:44:29.000It was the most bizarre thing, and it turns out this one time of the whole year, in this remote little place where there's this stone in the forest, it's the Lord Shiva stone, all these people, like 50 people on motorcycles showed up.
00:44:41.000And I'm like, so I'm gonna walk deeper that way because there's tigers and at least they're quiet.
00:44:47.000You know what's really bizarre is that there's a big push to save the tiger in India.
00:44:53.000There's a big push to make sure that the murderers of humans have healthy populations.
00:45:05.000I'm not saying that we should encourage extinction, because they are, even though they're terrifying, and they're predatory, and they're dangerous, they're a beautiful, amazing life form.
00:45:15.000I mean, I don't want tigers to go extinct.
00:45:17.000I don't want to be anywhere near them, but I don't want them to go extinct, because I think they're fascinating.
00:45:41.000It's like, well, why am I having this issue with polar bears?
00:45:43.000Because you're sleeping in polar bear territory, idiot.
00:45:45.000They said that there's an area in India called the Sundarbans, and there's an issue with the water, because the water's got too much salt in it, so the animals are irritated all the time, and there's a lot of typhoons in that area, so a lot of people die,
00:46:01.000and they get washed into the river, and the tigers develop a taste for human flesh.
00:46:04.000So it's one of the rare places where they're actively hunting people on a regular basis.
00:50:36.000And you're sleeping above, or hanging out in a tree above it.
00:50:38.000Yeah, and of course, you know, I'm going to give a super shout-out to the fact that they're actually 30% increasing in population in this one area, which is phenomenal.
00:54:40.000If they really communicate and they can express, I mean, they might not totally get it or their concept of life and death might be really weird, like way different than ours is.
00:56:12.000Apparently, in this PC world that we live in, in this weird world of sanitized language and social justice warriors, there's still women out there that want to get fucked by the biggest monkey they can find.
00:56:45.000But in the fantasies, man, these things sell.
00:56:48.000So there's women that have a fantasy of actually getting fucked by a Sasquatch, by a giant, just like, it's overwhelming, it just takes you...
00:56:56.000There's women who have this, they actually have a fantasy of getting fucked by something that can't talk to them, it doesn't have any morals, it doesn't have any ethics.
00:58:26.000Yeah, if you're gonna have a Bigfoot, you better find a fucking female Bigfoot for him, because otherwise the reason why he's come down to the village is he's tired of looking for females.
00:58:34.000I mean, you already alluded to the whole Native American thing, and there are lots of stories in Native American lore of the Native women being scooped up, picked up.
00:58:44.000And then there's a lot of dudes who don't want to admit their chick ran off with another dude, so they make up some shit about Bigfoot stealing their woman, because this is the manliest man around.
00:58:51.000Like, how could she, look at my most offensive Native American accent, how could she go off with other man?
00:59:42.000Because until there's a photo of Bigfoot, until there's DNA that makes sense, I had that guy, Todd Disotel, who's a biologist from, I think, NYU. I think it's NYU. He's in New York City.
01:00:19.000You can't do that because someone touched it.
01:00:22.000And when people touch things, you leave DNA on shit.
01:00:24.000You know, when your sweaty ass picks up some hairs in the woods and you drop them into it, you're not supposed to touch that with your body.
01:00:34.000You should have rubber gloves on, you should have tongs, and you should have a direct chain of custody between touching that fucking thing and it being in a laboratory being analyzed.
01:00:42.000And if you don't, your studies are bullshit.
01:00:45.000And this guy explained this to me in no uncertain terms.
01:00:48.000And when you look at it that way, you go, okay, that means none of it's real.
01:01:00.000They've never found one thing that you could say, this makes Bigfoot a real animal.
01:01:05.000So all you're going on is stories, and all you're going on is the knowledge that an animal like that used to exist, and the knowledge that they found another unknown primate in the island of Flores that was only 10,000 plus years ago.
01:02:54.000A mouse would have, this is a really sensitive half-second triggers, a mouse would have set that off, and besides it had like many, many feet.
01:03:05.000Like, could someone walk up to it and shut its operation off momentarily, go over there, grab the candy bar, walk out of frame, and then turn it back on?
01:04:47.000But is it possible, is there a device that you could use that would freeze the operation of the camera?
01:04:53.000Is there some sort of a magnetic field that you could maybe generate, like something powerful that would cause it to disrupt momentarily enough where you could run over and grab the candy?
01:05:18.000The skeptics would say, everything fell off the branches and out of the field of view before the camera could register the falling, even though they were stuck on things upright like this.
01:07:04.000Did you, like, try to set some candy bars up and, like, put a time-lapse on them or put the trail cam on them, rather, and see if you could recreate it and you weren't able to recreate it?
01:08:41.000It's nothing like being on this table.
01:08:42.000Being on this table is 100% likely that if you put this lighter here in 24 hours, as long as we don't have an earthquake, the lighter at least will be there.
01:08:51.000Yeah, you're splitting hairs, but I'll give you that.
01:08:53.000We're talking about something that could fall from gravity versus something that absolutely cannot move unless some interfering force comes along.
01:09:00.000A rodent, a ferocious wind, an earthquake.
01:10:38.000Wouldn't it be likely that maybe a rodent is small enough that it could grab that candy bar and maybe the trail camera is set up for like game?
01:10:46.000Probably set up for something that triggers its camera sensors?
01:10:49.000No, in fact, we showed it with the testing that it actually triggers with dust in the air.
01:11:01.000You remember those scenes in Twilight where the sunlight is cutting through the trees and you see all the dust in the air, all the glistening stuff and shit and birds?
01:13:33.000Much more likely than Bigfoot, for real.
01:13:35.000Yeah, I think time travel is more believable than...
01:13:39.000What's more believable is that aliens went back in time, grabbed the Gigantopithecus, and just dropped it off periodically in the woods to fuck with people.
01:13:47.000That's more likely than a large, more-than-tigers population of Gigantopithecus running through the woods.
01:13:56.000On another occasion, it was all about the potential of it being the Nephrim from the Bible, Genesis chapter 6. Oh, chapter 6. As long as you number the chapters, it gives a lot of credence to words.
01:14:54.000We vary a lot, and we're not genetically that much different than people that lived 50,000 plus years ago.
01:15:00.000So you're talking about the Bible, which was maybe written somewhere around like 4 or 5,000 years ago, and I think the Dead Sea Scrolls, I think they got that to like...
01:15:10.000Was it like 5,000 years, whatever it is?
01:15:13.000So it's anywhere, it's between like what we have today, 2015, and the last like whatever thousand years.
01:15:19.000It's super possible that there was a group of huge fucking Yao Ming's running around back then.
01:15:27.000I mean, they probably have more access to protein and food today, but if they lived in a really rich source, You know as well as anybody that any bear that lives in an area where there's a lot of salmon.
01:16:12.000They used to carry like 100 pounds on their back.
01:16:14.000Man, if you found a guy like this, if you went to some place and you saw people like this, and you got in a boat, and sailed across the sea, and landed on an island that was filled with legit giants, god damn you'd have some stories.
01:16:27.000I think that makes more sense than Bigfoot.
01:19:25.000That's the fucked up thing about people telling you stories.
01:19:28.000I had it in my head that this was a story at night time.
01:19:30.000I had it in my head that you were in your tent and that this thing came out at night time and made all this noise and then you went for your camera and it ran off.
01:20:07.000Heightened states of fear, heightened states of alienation, unusual states of the mind.
01:20:16.000Which would definitely coincide with being alone in Alaska by yourself with like a fucking bottle opener and a roll of duct tape and a condom.
01:20:29.000I mean, that's what you have when you go to these fucking places.
01:20:32.000You go and you bring like a bag of shit that you might ordinarily have on you if something went horribly wrong and you found yourself in these places.
01:20:39.000And then you figure out a way to survive.
01:21:17.000A guy living by himself, if you went in deep, deep, deep, deep, deep into the woods, like miles and miles in, hours and hours of hiking, and you found a cabin, you better not knock on that fucking door.
01:22:55.000Do you take that in consideration when you think about this experience?
01:22:58.000Like, you're like, man, did I fuck this up in my head?
01:23:00.000Did I have no reference point because I was alone for too long out there?
01:23:04.000And did I just give myself some sort of a jolt, like an extra emotional charge to my memory that may have distorted it, and as I repeated it over and over again in my memory, I might have twisted it a little bit and jumped it up or moved it side to side?
01:23:19.000Or are you rock solid that that's exactly what happened?
01:24:19.000I listened to that in a documentary, and I'm like, that can't be true.
01:24:26.000So then I went and I googled all these different sources, and that's essentially the number somewhere around there, somewhere between 200,000 and 300,000.
01:26:59.000That's a poor plan Go for the people that makes sense.
01:27:03.000I would like to go just a true I would really love to experience like what it's like to talk to a real guru I know I goof on a lot of those dudes those yogis and those what's a real guru?
01:27:17.000I think like all things There's got to be someone that's doing it right.
01:27:21.000It's probably insanely difficult to be like a real yogi, like a real master who's really like a sadhu, some dude who just smokes hash all day and meditates and goes into poses.
01:27:35.000I was with a sadhu in India last week.
01:28:09.000I went to this guy's I went to this guy's office to film an episode of the sci-fi show and as I walked in, the thing that he supposedly could do turned out to be bullshit.
01:28:19.000But as we walked in, he has this A picture of this Indian guy, this man from India, and he has white paint all over his face.
01:28:34.000He goes, oh, well, he has actually achieved the highest state of enlightenment, and he has existed without water or food for the past 13 years.
01:30:34.000That they're taking in the worst of the sins of all and that sort of they can connect with Shiva much stronger because of that because it's not affecting them.
01:33:25.000Joey Diaz had a friend and they knew someone who died, like a young lady, and the parents showed up at the funeral parlor And the guy came back from doing something with the body, and he was sweaty,
01:34:04.000Especially with people that are really fucked up in the head, and then on top of being fucked up in the head, they somehow or another get a job where they have access to dead bodies.
01:34:14.000They get super comfortable around being around dead bodies.
01:34:17.000And you just look at this warm tit from some chick who got shot in the head five hours ago.
01:35:21.000So you're, you know, you're dealing with someone who's practicing.
01:35:24.000But you might go, like, you might go to be cured of something from this guy and he would, like, they swear they have the cures to everything.
01:36:19.000Okay, if you had a guess though, if I gave you, if we said, listen, this is the lottery right now, this is the world lottery, you got two choices.
01:39:31.000If you didn't know that was a real animal, and you said, look at this evil thing in this new Hobbit movie.
01:39:37.000One of the things that attacks the Hobbit are five-foot-tall birds that don't fly, and they're predatory, and they have a giant bill that's like the size of...
01:39:45.000That's like, I mean, what is that thing?
01:43:32.000That's one of the things that coyotes do that's so horrific.
01:43:34.000When you find deer that are still half alive, their bottom end is eaten away.
01:43:40.000They eat their asshole and their legs, and oftentimes they're still alive.
01:43:44.000They think there might be some, like, advantages to killing animals that way and keeping them alive because it preserves the meat for a little bit longer than if they just went right to the neck.
01:43:53.000Because, like, this guy that I was up in BC with, he was a moose hunter, so they came across this moose that had been alive for days, and these wolves were eating it for days.
01:44:02.000It was still alive, and they would just eat its legs.
01:44:05.000It was just tearing at its asshole, and they were eating its back legs.
01:45:59.000She's riding a caribou like it's a fucking horse.
01:46:02.000Is it welcome like like you're doing one thing that it's like man am I wasting my time like what is this like what I can need to see something But the other hand if you did find something if you were up there and you got great footage of this fucking big monkey Bounding between two or three trees just looking at you and saying fuck he got me Holy shit If we were like,
01:46:30.000we weren't crazy, these 200 different Native American names for this animal, it wasn't crazy.
01:46:34.000People want to know that that thing's real or that isn't real.
01:46:38.000Like, I fuck around and I joke around about it not being real, but the reality is I don't fucking know.
01:46:44.000There's too many people that have said that there's something up there.
01:46:48.000Doesn't mean that there's something up there.
01:46:50.000It means the woods are scary, they're dense, it gets dark out, people make shit up, people know that other people made shit up, they hear their stories, they think, what if they're real?
01:47:58.000The one I saw was small, but they had him on the show, that Jeremy, whatever his name is, that gentleman who runs River Monsters, that goes fishing, that guy's legit, right?
01:49:11.000If you take a photo of giant sturgeon, or Google giant sturgeon, and you'll get an image of what they look like at their very biggest thing.
01:54:09.000There is a little bit of this need for this fucking thing to be real that clouds the judgment.
01:54:15.000And I applaud the fact that you went into this as objectively as a unique individual as you could.
01:54:21.000It's, you know, no one is completely objective.
01:54:23.000I think we all strive to be, especially if you're Really trying to give a good audit of your life and trying to figure out how you're running things.
01:54:31.000How objective am I being about this goddamn Bigfoot thing?
01:58:01.000It's a wild shootout between predators and prey, and there's limited food supply, and there's a bunch of animals darting around left and right and shitting in the woods.
01:58:11.000That's that's what you feel when you're out there you feel this like wow Maybe the stock market really isn't like the epicenter of the universe Maybe it doesn't really matter in the greater scheme of the universe whether or not I owe money on my student loans Maybe it doesn't really matter if I'm in credit card debt and my wife is banging her trainer.
01:58:30.000Maybe it doesn't matter That's why it's good to go out to the bush.
01:58:33.000Yeah, when you're out there, it puts the whole ball of wax.
01:58:36.000You might be completely wrapped up in your own weird thing to the point where you don't recognize the fact That you're a part of nature.
01:58:45.000You're just removed because you have walls, you have electricity, and you have a hat on, but you're a part of nature, an unavoidable part of it.
01:58:57.000So even if Bigfoot's bullshit, there's still something that nature is so wild that the possibility of Bigfoot isn't outside of the realm of what you would consider to have a potential reality to it.
02:02:35.000You know, and I would love to know what pasta was like before they started monkeying around with wheat.
02:02:39.000Because they think that, like, somewhere around the early 1900s, they started, like, doing something to wheat to make it more durable, to make greater yields, and to make it be a little bit more hardy.
02:02:52.000And they just changed the way wheat grows.
02:02:56.000They changed the actual consistency of the plant.
02:02:59.000And from then on, it became like harder and harder for people to digest it, apparently.
02:04:21.000If you were in the mood for Frosted Flakes milk at the end of a bowl of Frosted Flakes that you double-sugared, and someone ordered you a glass of Cabernet, you'd be like, get that sloppy, nasty, bitter shit out of my face.
02:04:35.000I'm about to feast on some Frosted Flakes milk.
02:05:43.000Out of all those sources, of all the different people that are quote-unquote researchers, what do you think is the most credible organization?
02:06:09.000Once you spend a night in the woods, you have a stake in it more than the guy who watches it on TV and goes, bitch, you have more of a stake.
02:06:58.000Because if you're a normal human being, you're going to have a bias.
02:07:02.000That's like how you feed yourself like the finding Bigfoot folks like if you really got those dudes high on peyote and Told them to tell the real truth about every episode Like that's a good idea when you were hooting you knew that Bobo was hooting back,
02:08:48.000Samurai Chatter was a guy, I want to say it was like from the 1970s, who recorded some vocalizations that sound like, and he claimed that these were Bigfoot.
02:09:22.000Recordings, especially from like 1970s equipment...
02:09:26.000When you're in the woods, like field equipment, like you're not getting an absolute exact representation of the sound that you're recording.
02:09:33.000You're getting some sort of whatever the gear is capable of picking up.
02:09:38.000Like a really good microphone, like these microphones, these Shores, right?
02:13:53.000I just didn't smell bullshit on him when he was talking.
02:13:56.000It sounded like he was just talking right from his heart, like this is what I saw.
02:14:00.000Nobody ever accused Gimlin of being a part of it though, right?
02:14:03.000They accused Roger Patterson, the guy who filmed it, who went to jail for writing a bad check to pay for the very camera he used to film Bigfoot.
02:18:00.000It's just, it seems to be out of all the things that are like, all the mysteries, it's one of the most probable, which is one of the most exciting things about it.
02:18:11.000Like, the Loch Ness Monster, oh man, what are the idea that some long-necked dinosaur thing is living in the middle of a lake in Scotland?
02:18:31.000It's way more unlikely that some sort of a cold-blooded reptile that's enormous, that lives in a loch, has gone undetected for this long with a breeding population, that's way too open.
02:18:43.000Even if it is huge, it's still just water.
02:19:16.000If you eat the proper dosage of any really potent psychedelic mushroom, psychedelic DMT, anything that's really intense, transformative psychedelics, you can see things that make gremlins seem totally normal.
02:19:32.000I think that's the root of all that shit.
02:19:35.000I mean, this is all people that were eating plants that they didn't even know what the fuck they did.
02:19:39.000They didn't understand the mechanisms behind them.
02:19:41.000They had rituals around cultivating them and keeping them.
02:19:47.000That might be a part of the Bigfoot thing too, man.
02:19:50.000I mean, Bigfoot might not even be a real thing.
02:19:53.000It might be a real thing that you only can experience when you're having a psychedelic trip.
02:19:58.000Like the idea of Bigfoot in a physical sense, it might not even be real.
02:20:03.000It might be something that when you eat enough psychedelics, it tunes into some part of your memory that recreates this thing that lived a long time ago.
02:20:13.000Best question asked about Bigfoot is not what it is, it's why.
02:20:40.000Even if you're a non-believer, ladies and gentlemen, I recommend three bong hits and some good friends, and you will enjoy this goddamn show!
02:20:48.000Les Stroud, you're a fucking man's man.