In this episode, the boys talk about names and why they suck. Also, we talk about yoga and why we don t like it. Thank you so much for listening to this episode and we hope you enjoy it as much as we enjoyed making it! Stay tuned next week for our next episode where we discuss our favorite movies and tv shows and why you should name your kids something different than the one you were born with. Have a question or would like to debate a particular name or topic? Call us at or e-mail us your questions and we ll try to answer them in the next episode. Thanks for listening and Good Luck Out There! Timestamps: 1:00 - What's your favorite movie or TV show name? 4:30 - What do you want your kids to be named after ? 6:15 - What would you like to see your kids name be called? 7:00 8:10 - What is a good name for your kid? 9:30 10:20 - What are your favorite celebrity kid names? 11:00- What kind of kid name you would like your kid to have? 12:40 - Why do you name your kid after a celebrity? 13:20- What is the worst name you ve ever had? 14:30- Why you should have a kid named your kid's name like that? 15: What are you going to name your child after someone else? 16:15- What would your kid be like? 17:00: What you would you prefer? 18:40- What's a good kid you re gonna be named? 19: What's the worst thing your kid you ve named your kids? 21:30: What s your kid s name you re going to be? 22:00 | What you d like to have in a movie? 23:30 | What are the worst kid you d have in your first movie you ve had in your head? 24:00 // 25:00 & 26:30 // 26:00 + 27: what you d you daddies would you want? 26:10 27:30 & 27:40 | How do you like your kids have a cool movie or something like that s better than yours? 29:40 28:20 30:10 | What s a girl s name?
00:03:19.000There's like that fakeness that comes with...
00:03:21.000But we do like, like, we were talking about yoga before this...
00:03:25.000Show started like we like people that are really in the yoga because they actually enjoy the benefits of it And they're really they're really kind of down to earth and centered Those are nice people to be around.
00:03:35.000Yes, but the ones who are faking that thing are fucking gross Well, they're wearing it like a costume, right?
00:03:41.000So it becomes a character that they've taken over and again, that's something called affectation.
00:03:47.000Yeah They're not doing it for the utility of yoga, like where you're working something out, whether it's peace of mind or getting more centered or whatever, and getting healthier.
00:03:56.000I think that some people actually wear that cloak and become somewhat tyrannical about it.
00:04:02.000They put on the outfit, the costume, now they're a yogi, now they're going to speak about being on the spiritual path, and within that is always a little bit of a...
00:04:58.000Oh, somebody told me they did some foot thing where they put you in a foot bath and the water turns brown.
00:05:03.000Yeah, because the toxins in your body.
00:05:05.000Meanwhile, they've done experiments on that, which is it reacts with the metal in the water to create with a certain sodium compound, and it creates rust.
00:05:31.000They're taking the toxins out of your body and after you do it, you just feel amazing.
00:05:36.000It's like, oh God, this is one of the beautiful things about the internet, is those people, like you can go, okay, is that real?
00:05:42.000And then you Google it and you go, no, here's all these studies and they show that you're retarded.
00:05:46.000There's a book I read about that where they break that particular thing down, that putting your feet in the water turns brown and all the toxins come out.
00:05:54.000God, that's so dumb, but it's like, here it is, before iron cleanse.
00:06:23.000There's so much of that gross fake shit out there.
00:06:26.000That gross fake, like, healing and psychic healers and zone healers.
00:06:31.000But even that, even that is always, if you actually scratch into it, and I've spent enough, you know me, I've got a lot of patience for those people.
00:07:12.000I know all this conventional wisdom is your thing, but I actually have a roundabout way, and then they'll play with words, and they'll say, it's not about doing, it's kind of about allowing.
00:07:24.000And you're like, you know, I love that.
00:07:41.000My biggest thing with the healer kind of crowd, and some of them are great people, of course, and maybe they do some good, of course, but a lot of them are wearing it to bludgeon you with it, or it's a piece of identity.
00:07:54.000Everything else has kind of gone well, and they turn their own crisis into sort of a...
00:08:00.000You know, they've found their calling, which is to be a healer.
00:08:04.000Also, I don't buy the ideas of people that are trying to be leaders and trying to push things and trying to create these movements and trying to...
00:08:16.000If they don't do something to push themselves, like if I see you and you have a sloppy face and a big old double chin and your gut is hanging off your pants, you greedily await your food as you're sitting around with all these people that are listening to you.
00:08:30.000I'm like, you're a guy that's caught up in the grips of not taking care of your own meat wagon.
00:08:35.000So why don't I listen to you about how you describe how we're supposed to live life and how the peaceful energy flows through your chakras and like, What exactly are you saying?
00:08:46.000Are you just trying to get people to listen to you?
00:08:48.000Because that's what it kind of seems like.
00:08:50.000It kind of seems like you just want to be a leader.
00:08:57.000I think unless you're involved in some adverse situation, some situation where you have to encounter adversity and find out what you're made of, Whatever you're doing, whatever pursuit, if you're doing one of those, what are those crazy mutters, those crazy races those people do?
00:09:48.000You know, you're put in a world where you're not being tested.
00:09:51.000And struggle is such a huge part of the human experience.
00:09:54.000And the other thing about gurus, though, is that whenever you see somebody who talks a lot, And they're telling you the secrets and methodology and technology of life.
00:10:02.000The problem with that is that when you see people really accomplish something, like John Wayne Parr or whatever, if you ask John Wayne Parr to tell me the secrets of fighting, John Wayne Parr would look at me and go, well, you'd probably have to go train for 10 years, and a lot of it is something you have to experience and practice,
00:11:03.000You know, and if you like wearing dresses and ball gags and getting beat up by chicks, who the fuck am I to say there's something wrong with that?
00:11:10.000As long as you're not hurting anybody, and if you are hurting them, it's because they want you to hurt them.
00:11:20.000So when some guy comes along, it's about allowing.
00:11:23.000Sometimes, sometimes it's about being in your car going, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and then you go to work with a big smile on your face.
00:11:31.000Because you're laughingly and jokingly, completely in the nature of, like, joking around, all through your day, where we're shit-mouthing people, or fuck-mouthing people.
00:12:06.000I think life is a lot like stand-up in that sense.
00:12:08.000We have different styles of living, you know, it's it's one of the cool things about life and I think everybody's person like different personalities gravitate towards different styles of living just Automatically and organically the same way people gravitate towards jobs You know the way some people are just drawn.
00:12:25.000I want to be a comic book illustrator.
00:12:27.000I'm drawn to it You know or some people like fuck always love music man.
00:12:30.000Just always want to be a musician and My son, I told you I went to, I watched him at his school play, whatever, and he's not even four.
00:12:40.000And it was so funny because all the kids were singing their songs and doing their thing, and my son is on the sidelines pulling his mouth open as wide as he possibly can.
00:12:52.000Then he jumps over and just jumps in his kid's face.
00:12:55.000Then he decides, I'm getting out of here.
00:12:57.000Pulls his shirt up and walks off stage.
00:13:37.000It has to be because he's so similar to me to the point where I remember doing that.
00:13:42.000I remember going, this is embarrassing.
00:13:45.000I'm not going to sing like everybody else.
00:13:47.000I remember looking over, I was in kindergarten and I saw their mouths wide open and they were singing and I was like, well, that's embarrassing.
00:13:54.000And my mother came over and she said, what's wrong?
00:13:58.000And I said, I don't think we should be doing this.
00:14:48.000Like, your first gut reaction, if you even had one, when you saw the picture of Bruce Jenner on Vanity Fair under the title, Call Me Caitlyn?
00:14:58.000Well, I got it when I was bear hunting with a bow and arrow.
00:16:06.000Helps preserve a great deal of habitat for animals.
00:16:09.000It preserves more habitat for animals because of hunting than anything else.
00:16:12.000The conservation aspect of hunting is totally overlooked because people want to look at hunters like there's some evil person.
00:16:18.000We live in this really fucked up, contradictory society where every day you're driving down the street, you're passing by gas stations that are filled with meat snacks.
00:16:28.000Disgusting meat that's ground up into some fucking goofy hamburger and frozen and you microwave it.
00:17:05.000I think cities are awesome, by the way.
00:17:08.000And you know when I really started to appreciate cities?
00:17:10.000When you and I started going on these trips.
00:17:12.000When you and I went to Montana, or even better recently, like a perfect example, when we did that Prince of Wales show, we went on to Prince of Wales Island, we got rained on every fucking day for five days, and when we came back to L.A., it was amazing.
00:17:52.000Like, coming back from that rainy, miserable, cold five days to coming back to LA felt like I was on drugs.
00:17:59.000It was because I realized that like we had a first of all we had a great time being rainy and miserable laughing our asses off It was moving when I saw Steve Rinald at the end of that say, you know, I kind of miss Brian and Joe's Comedy because being up here alone.
00:18:14.000There's a profound sadness I feel I feel that way to actually did you feel that like very sad I feel so sad when I look out I maybe I feel so alone or I feel like What it would be like to live in such solitude and such silence all the time.
00:18:39.000But I feel like when, even if I'm in a beautiful park-like setting, like if you go to Griffiths Park and you're sitting up in there, even if you find yourself a swath of land where all you see is trees and you're sitting down, there's still...
00:18:53.000There's a feeling in the air of civilization and the feeling in the air of civilization I don't know if it's Wi-Fi signals or radio signals or television signals or cellular signals I don't I don't know if it's an actual physical thing I don't know if there's a feeling that you get obviously you can't tune into someone's cell phone with your fucking brain but are you aware in some sort of weird peripheral sense That all these signals are around you all the time.
00:19:19.000I don't know, but I know that it feels totally different to be outside on a mountain in Prince of Wales.
00:19:25.000There's a feeling in the air, and there's this, first of all, this very humbling, absolute, undeniable realization that not only are you not special, but that this part of the world does not give a fuck about you and will forget about you the moment you stop existing.
00:20:39.000They're not endorsed and appreciated enough.
00:20:43.000I think it's an integral part of being a person.
00:20:47.000And I think that when we're spending all of our times in these hard surfaces and these straight lines and these things that we create, I just do not think it's good for you.
00:20:57.000I think your body's not designed for it.
00:21:00.000I think there's some reward systems that you get from being out in these solitary environments.
00:21:08.000It's certainly what most of our history is.
00:21:12.000If you think about the amount of stimulus, auditory and visual stimulus, you deal with Every day, from just blinking lights, all the things you see.
00:21:22.000Our very recent ancestors were not ever exposed to that.
00:21:26.000They say sometimes that we're exposed to more stimulus in a day than some of our ancestors were their whole life, in terms of how predictable, still, expansive their lives were, where you couldn't venture too far.
00:21:41.000The other thing about where we were, especially in Prince of Wales Island, was that not even Native Americans would go up there.
00:21:47.000In fact, even animals would be like, you know what, too rainy up here, we're gonna go down below.
00:21:53.000So we were kind of truly where no one in their right mind would go.
00:21:57.000Except Ranella, he's a fucking maniac.
00:24:34.000I think all this move towards the feminine and demonizing masculine behavior and all of this Appreciation for marginalized people is all it's all awesome.
00:24:50.000I really think it's important I think people go too crazy with it and they attack people that would ordinarily be their allies But I think that what all this is Doing like the reason why this move towards acceptance is happening is because I think we're evolving and I think that as people are evolving as we realize that there really is no Right or wrong way to live and if Bruce Jenner wants to be a woman now who gives a fuck?
00:25:14.000He should totally be a woman I think this is this is all a positive thing and it's all moving towards some softer style of being a human being and It probably won't be within our lifetime, but I think several lifetimes from now People are probably going to be way kinder on a regular basis than they are right now.
00:25:36.000I think they're way kinder today than they've ever been before.
00:25:39.000Way more aware of things now than they've ever been before.
00:25:42.000Easier to empathize because we have too much information to know how similar we are to, say, a white guy is to a Chinese person to a black person.
00:26:34.000You can be masculine and be very sensitive.
00:26:37.000Dude, I had to do this fucking thing for the UFC yesterday, where it was a speech about the Hall of Fame, and Jeff Blatnick is getting into the Hall of Fame, and Jeff Blatnick He was an Olympic gold medalist, beat Alexander Carellin in Greco-Roman.
00:27:26.000It doesn't mean because someone embraces masculine activities whether it's martial arts or whether it's Hunting or anything it doesn't mean that that person is going to be homophobic It doesn't mean that that person is going to be a negative person or but there's this push I think because of What's happening now with all this,
00:27:52.000our society's movement towards civilization, movement towards a much more non-violent life, although the awareness of rape, man, there had to have been a lot of rape going on in college when I was young, but I never fucking heard about it.
00:28:06.000But all you're hearing about, like, on a constant basis is the amount of sexual violence that takes place in colleges.
00:28:12.000And some people are saying they're overreacting, this, that, but it's good.
00:28:16.000Like, it's all this trend of, like, recognizing...
00:29:03.000And a very, very short time ago, and I'm talking about less than 15 years ago in our lifetime, any of those derogatory words like fag, faggot, making fun of gay people was an acceptable prejudice.
00:29:38.000Well, but, you know, what you're talking about also is like Matthew Arnold, who was this awesome sort of philosopher, romantic, and he said, yes, the United States is the, and forgive me if it's not Matthew Arnold, I'm almost positive, but he says, yes, the United States is a very powerful country with the biggest guns and a roaring stock market and the National Football League.
00:29:56.000But somewhere along the line, if you embrace all of that, you'll forget to be interesting.
00:30:01.000And you have to remember as a country, as a society, that you must make place for the gentler spirits.
00:30:08.000For your artists, for your quote-unquote weirdos.
00:30:11.000For your dreamers, for your wonderers, and I think that's to our credit, that it does create more beauty, it does create more diversity, it creates more interesting innovation when people who don't have the biggest muscles feel safe,
00:30:28.000feel like they have a voice, feel like they have somewhere to go if they get beat up.
00:30:33.000You have a society where muscles and guns, i.e.
00:30:47.000So anytime most societies concern themselves almost exclusively with how to control their populations, whether they do it through sheer force like Russia does, or whether they do it through religion like Saudi Arabia does, those countries essentially practice a form of apartheid.
00:31:05.000And what I mean by that is that 50% of their population At least, to say nothing of the gay people and the different people and the transgender people, those people are so marginalized and they're wasted because they're put in one place and they're told to do just a couple of things that have been allowed by this male architecture,
00:31:24.000this male scaffolding that's been put in place and been there forever.
00:31:31.000It stifles Ingenuity, creativity, and most of all, it stifles the truth.
00:31:38.000And in that sense, you know, of course there's a place for these people and these societies have evolved, and there's a lot of great things about Russian society and Saudi society and everything else, but that's an important aspect to keep in mind.
00:31:50.000That's an important thing, and that's what I think this movement is a positive thing.
00:31:57.000You know, these people have a voice now, and you start thinking of them as people, as opposed to, like, transgender people never had a community before.
00:32:04.000I mean, how would they have to find other transgender people and hang out with them?
00:32:09.000It would be very difficult to get that going.
00:32:12.000You know, now you meet online, you have these forums, you have Twitter and things along those lines.
00:32:17.000Like, people from any weird, generally marginalized part of society can find a community now.
00:34:44.000And I think that anything that you can't make fun of is bullshit.
00:34:49.000If you can't make fun of it, you can make fun of everything.
00:34:52.000You can make fun of politics, you can make fun of sex, you can make fun of gender, you can make fun of transgender, you can make fun of everything.
00:34:59.000Don't say you can't make fun of it, because that's nonsense.
00:35:02.000Then you're losing out on free speech.
00:35:04.000And by the way, the best way, the best way to...
00:35:09.000Marginalize something is to not be allowed to talk about it.
00:35:16.000You don't make it a thing that you could talk about and discuss.
00:35:19.000So you don't even know if the thing that you're talking about, if it's honest.
00:35:22.000Are we being honest about what is happening here?
00:35:26.000Because for every person who does everything in life that's weird, there's going to be people that love it, and there's going to be people that hate it.
00:35:34.000But you don't know what it is until everybody sits down and talks about it.
00:35:37.000Like, why does this kid want so much fucking attention?
00:36:02.000You can make fun of lawyers all you want.
00:36:04.000You're probably going to need lawyers, but you can make all the dead lawyer jokes you fucking want.
00:36:08.000You could throw lawyers in the bottom of the ocean.
00:36:10.000You could talk about gunning them all down the streets like dogs.
00:36:13.000You could be a fucking blogger, like the Huffington Post, and you should say, damn the lawyers, we should gun them down like dogs.
00:36:20.000And you could say that, and no one is going to get angry at you, and no one's going to march against you, and no one's going to call you lawyer-phobic.
00:36:28.000There's a blog called Kill All the Lawyers.
00:36:36.000What if a transgender dude sucked your dick, and you found out about it, and you were really mad, so you started to blog, kill all the transgenders?
00:36:48.000Because when you want to kill somebody based on sex or gender, if you have anger towards them because of sex or gender, it becomes very charged.
00:39:22.000And what's interesting is that white, I would imagine, I think when California couldn't pass that proposition on gay marriage, A lot of the opposition came from the black and brown communities, because especially the Latino communities are very religious.
00:39:38.000Well, Hari Shafir had a great joke about it.
00:40:13.000I hear about that all the time, like the anti-violence aspect of it or anything else that people enjoy that is very violent, whether it's football or any other contact sport.
00:40:22.000There's a lot of people that really resist it and think that it's detrimental to society.
00:41:19.000What I'm saying is that everybody has their point of view.
00:41:23.000And sometimes, for example, I think, if you look at TV and stuff, I actually think we've become very intolerant of male behavior, not just the traditional prototypical masculine behaviors, but sexual behavior as well.
00:41:38.000So I think a lot of men are really afraid to sound even remotely like they like having sex.
00:41:45.000A lot with different women, even if they're single, because they'll be called a creep.
00:41:53.000That used to be something that was actually celebrated.
00:41:56.000And if you look at TV, a lot of TV shows, especially mainstream TV, If a guy's on that show and he has, I don't know, God forbid he's got a girlfriend and another girlfriend.
00:43:04.000Yeah, she's running around fucking all these guys and sucking their dicks in bathrooms, doing a bunch of dirty, naughty shit, and it was great.
00:43:11.000But if there was a show about a guy who did that with a bunch of women and then thought less of the women after he was done with them, you would go, what a piece of shit.
00:45:07.000I don't even know how much is true and how much is not true, because I was listening to this radio show and they were talking about how he underwent a 12-hour surgery to change his face, more feminize it.
00:45:16.000I do not know if that is the truth or not.
00:49:30.000You know, but there's people in this world that are going through all sorts of pain for no fault of their own.
00:49:39.000They're just born in a shitty household.
00:49:41.000They're just born with the wrong human beings guarding over them and raising them and communicating with them and they're fucked from birth.
00:49:48.000And that's something that nobody wants to admit.
00:49:51.000Well, that's also kind of always how I've looked at things where I was born on third base and told to run home.
00:49:58.000You know, I'm a white American male in 2015 who gets paid and good looking.
00:50:03.000I got a ridiculous jawline, shredded, and I get paid to make people laugh.
00:50:08.000I mean, I get paid to make people laugh and I'm healthy.
00:50:11.000What's attractive about people that have a situation like that is that you're appreciating it.
00:50:18.000When we talk to comics that whine about how many shows they have to do or that they can't get the sitcom made or they can't...
00:51:11.000I mean, you were already famous before that, and Shaub is already famous for the UFC, but there's a coalescence.
00:51:17.000There's this crazy energy behind you guys in that show that I see all the time.
00:51:23.000When I was opening for you on your show, when you were filming your comedy special, the audience was filled with those Fighter and the Kid shirts.
00:52:05.000When you can become autonomous- And saying somebody else's words, wearing somebody else's clothes in somebody else's story.
00:52:11.000If you can become autonomous and you can get away from anybody else's opinions and ideas that they have to throw them into the soup, then you're truly responsible for your own work.
00:52:21.000And when you're truly responsible for whatever the fuck you're actually doing, then you have a totally different kind of connection to it.
00:52:27.000So these guys, they get angry about the business, about the way the business is changing in a weird way.
00:52:33.000If you enjoy being a comic, you really don't have to do anything else anymore.
00:52:39.000Back in the day, it was just like, boy, I hope I can keep this comedy thing afloat until I get that sitcom.
00:53:39.000So how can you decide that he's not a real stand-up because he...
00:53:43.000Wanted to put together seven minutes you used to always tell me to stand up I worked so hard at acting remember how hard like I'd be in class and I just worked at it and I would do scenes and I would cry and I And then I just I don't know man.
00:53:56.000It's what happened is I just when I got a taste of real stand-up Mm-hmm and then with the podcast and then I was like man I gotta go where I got to drive where and sit on a set for how long would do five minutes of acting it's if people saw how movies are made I think they'd have a lot less reference for the entire process.
00:54:15.000If people saw how Cole was pulled out of the ground, I think they'd appreciate it more.
00:55:31.000I think we're in the middle of the storm, and I don't think we quite realize how significant some of the changes in culture have been.
00:55:38.000Well, they always say that when people are in an epoch, when they're in a changing movement, like...
00:55:43.000People who were coming into the Renaissance didn't know they were in the Renaissance, didn't call it the Renaissance, didn't know that there was something called the Renaissance or that they were even in the Dark Ages before that.
00:55:54.000So there are countless examples of that where this is the most important date.
00:56:36.000Foundation that he created to go and build wells for the pygmies, you know, he goes down there and builds these pygmies these wells just a great guy But those folks who live there that is their life and that is what they're used to just like when we were on that Prince Edward Prince of Wales Island That was our life for those five days.
00:56:54.000Yeah, that's one of the reasons why when I came back here it felt so good to realize that This feeling of sun on your face is very pleasurable.
00:57:02.000This feeling of being around people and having, you know, the convenience of grocery stores and restaurants that are good and comedy clubs and all the good aspects that a city provides.
00:57:13.000It made me, like, acutely aware of that.
00:57:16.000Because being in that environment, that could be light.
00:57:31.000Yeah, but people are really really adaptive.
00:57:34.000We can change and we can morph and we can and I think in Some ways we're not aware of when it's happening It just becomes a normal life like text messages and photos and being able to Google things becomes normal but I think historians When they look back on the era between 1994 and 2015,
00:57:56.000they will see a tornado of information.
00:58:01.000They will see an unprecedented amount of data that's being passed back and forth to the point where at the end, at the very end of the line, 2015, more data gets done in like an hour, more data gets passed by in 24 hours than the entire history of the human race.
00:59:07.000But in that nonsense, there's an unprecedented amount of tweets.
00:59:12.000That are leading people to check out articles, that are leading people to maybe reform opinions or reconsider preconceived notions, and then you'll start reading comments, how other people agree or disagree, and you start communicating with each other, and an unprecedented sort of exchange is taking place.
00:59:33.000Most people noticed it because it just happened while we were alive.
00:59:36.000It's also humanizing a lot of those experiences.
00:59:39.000So I think when you frame, for example, this Bruce Jenner thing, when you frame it like, and people really do understand it, when you frame it when somebody says, listen, Not only have I always felt this way, but the overwhelming evidence is that anybody or most people who become transgender or go through gender reassignment surgery,
00:59:57.000if you look at how they always felt, if you ask them, they always felt this way, kind of like the way somebody who is gay generally, usually will say, I've always been attracted to the same sex.
01:00:09.000So when you frame it that way and you see it and you see a person that, you know, is very real to you and acting the way everybody else does, it's hard not to empathize.
01:00:40.000Yeah, I think the similarities What's what's super important like the core the core process is how we treat each other.
01:00:48.000That's like what's super important and If we're treating each other in a negative way simply because of some ideas that we might have on Who a person should or shouldn't be whether or not you should sleep with men like that's that's one of the best ones like the or whether or not I retweeted something from the 1930s I believe it was where a woman was going to jail for being a lesbian and It's a crazy picture.
01:02:26.000Nowadays, what's interesting is that when any country does something that's bad...
01:02:32.000Russia and Ukraine couldn't just say they were trying to annex territory.
01:02:37.000They justify what they were doing, the Putin regime justifies what they're doing, on the idea that, look, we're just protecting our Russian people that are there.
01:02:48.000No matter who you're talking to, no matter what country you're talking to, no matter Syria, when they're bombing the rebels, whatever, Syria, the Assad regime will talk about the fact that they are protecting a lot of different communities in a very diverse country.
01:03:02.000And what I think is interesting is that with so many people watching, anybody who's doing anything that could be considered violent, murderous, bad in general, must be justified along moral grounds.
01:03:17.000It's no longer allowed to say, we're fucking taking over your country because we're Roman and Romans are better.
01:03:24.000That used to be all the excuse they needed.
01:03:32.000It belongs to us because we are superior, and everyone else is not.
01:03:38.000So they can either die, get out of the way, or be our slaves.
01:03:42.000Well, that was the only way you survived back then, is if you were the stronger one with that attitude, because that was the attitude that you were going to encounter.
01:03:51.000Like, what the Mongols did when they found a new civilization.
01:03:54.000Like, when they found the Pope, the first contact with the Pope was saying, we're aware that you weren't aware, but this is the Great Khan.
01:04:01.000The Great Khan runs everything, so you're going to have to pay some fucking tribute and bow down, or you're all dead.
01:04:28.000Imagine what was, like, 1,000 years before that, where they were really savages, or 2,000 years before that.
01:04:32.000But it raises questions about whether this stuff is endemic to human beings.
01:04:36.000Like, they were doing a study on chimps.
01:04:39.000And they have a lot of evidence, they've already seen it, but they have a lot of evidence even like from past chimps that, you know, different, when they study different areas and communities, that a group of large, a large group of males will come in and overrun a smaller group of males in an isolated area and kill all of them.
01:05:08.000And it used to be that the idea that human beings were violent like that was because we didn't know any better and that it wasn't a natural impulse.
01:05:17.000In fact, we're not naturally violent because kids aren't.
01:05:23.000Problem is, you see that kind of behavior in the animal world.
01:05:27.000You see it among dolphins and you see it among chimps.
01:05:31.000And you certainly see it in spades in indigenous cultures that have had very little contact with other cultures, have not shared information with other cultures.
01:05:41.000Well, if there's no civilization, if you don't have an infrastructure, if you don't have food that's coming in, then you have struggle.
01:05:48.000And when you have struggle, you have danger.
01:05:50.000When you have danger, you have people that are going to take advantage of people that are weaker than them, and you have a breakdown of what we consider civilization.
01:06:00.000And when you get into these really rural communities, the further and further back in time, the more and more prevalent that shit's gonna be.
01:06:15.000I think that people are capable of amazing feats of kindness, and people are awesome to be around, and people are also un-fucking- believably evil.
01:06:25.000Like, if you look at that ISIS video, I didn't watch it, but it was described to me, of the Jordanian pilot who's lit on fire.
01:06:32.000They did it in slow-mo from different angles.
01:06:37.000They set up a shot, and then they filmed this guy getting burned to death.
01:06:41.000The fact that people are capable of that kind of cruelty to each other, and at the same time, there's selfless people that are out there like Justin Wren, who's living with the pygmies in the Congo, and he's digging wells for them.
01:06:54.000Well, they always say human beings, not all day, but the book, Our Inner Ape, the author says that we are a bipolar ape.
01:09:14.000I think the problem that we all have is with assholes.
01:09:18.000That is the problem across the board, whether it's women or it's men.
01:09:21.000When you see like these crazy radical feminists who attack speakers because they, you know, want to support men's rights and Divorce court and whatever the fucking reason is that the really aggressive like this is archetypal video of this super aggressive Feminist outside of this thing in Toronto and she's got red hair and she's screaming at people like what she wants and what she doesn't want for men and when they can shut the fuck up and you know and and she's telling people in the audience shut the fuck up the people that exist
01:09:52.000like that then they become the problem because Because the problem is not like the idea that women deserve everything that men deserve and that we should have equal treatment by law.
01:10:20.000Everybody is entitled to start from zero.
01:10:24.000And as soon as you're prejudiced, whether you're prejudiced against white people, or whether you're prejudiced against men, or whether you're prejudiced against gays or transgenders or whatever the fuck it is, as soon as you stop treating that person and you come at them from a totally even spot,
01:10:43.000And I would suggest that, you know, we benefit also and enjoy a lot about life based on people who created things whose motives, their motives, may have been less than stellar.
01:11:52.000Well, you know, we deal with that all the time with businesses, right?
01:11:55.000When businesses start to get pressure in the marketplace from other outside businesses, and you deal with this weird thing that happens with commerce.
01:12:06.000You know, it becomes this gigantic contest, and some aspects of it we feel like we need to save.
01:12:12.000Like, that's what happens in the banking business.
01:12:14.000Right, they go to the government and say, don't let us fail.
01:12:16.000Well, what's really interesting to me is, like, there's people that got bailouts, right?
01:14:08.000Well, we know that when you throw money, just money at a problem, like in Baltimore, I believe, which is the worst school system in the country, I think we spend federal dollars, we spend More money per student.
01:14:20.000It's the third most amount of spending per student than any other town or state in the union.
01:14:34.000That I'm kind of becoming fascinated with.
01:14:35.000Don't require money or it's not a Democratic or Republican issue.
01:14:40.000For example, one of the biggest challenges we're going to face is that there are a lot of people out there who don't fit into the 21st century economy.
01:14:50.000They don't have skill set that requires that.
01:15:08.000Every time you hear Democrats or Republicans talking, they say things like, hey man, we've got to do something about this income inequality.
01:15:16.000So the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, and we've got to tax the rich.
01:15:22.000The problem is, in fact, that what's really going on is technology is taking the place of a lot of these unskilled jobs.
01:15:31.000And we are going to have, as technology grows exponentially, Robots and different forms of technology are gonna take over so many of the jobs that people have now.
01:15:45.000I don't know when it's gonna be, but bus drivers will be out of business, out of work.
01:15:48.000And there are so many examples of that.
01:15:51.000What we have to start doing, rather than worrying about redistributing wealth, the most important thing is getting these people ready for the 21st century economy, which is probably going to change all the time.
01:16:06.000Which means you've got to figure out how you're going to fit in to an economy that doesn't operate the way traditional economies work anymore.
01:16:15.000There's just different needs, different services, things are always changing, things are very trendy.
01:16:27.000Also this goddamn engine thing comes along and no one needs a fucking horseshoe.
01:16:30.000But you can't go to the government and say, hey government bail me out and give me subsidies for the rest of my life because somebody has to pay for that and that's all of us.
01:16:39.000And so taxes get higher and that's what we have to be careful of.
01:16:42.000I just really, there is a place for government but you have to be careful of saying, hey the government's gonna come in here and save The day.
01:17:45.000The great bits that have this unique perspective.
01:17:48.000They're not going to get a robot to mimic Bill Burr.
01:17:51.000Or I was gonna say yes, absolutely Joey Diaz I was gonna say Mitch Hedberg actually because his absurdist point of view was like really only effective I think with his way of communicating like his his style of delivery You know you're not gonna figure that out with a computer.
01:18:08.000You're just not not gonna figure out why it's appealing It's We're lucky as shit.
01:18:15.000Being a person who's getting out of school now and thinking about jobs that used to exist just a short while ago that are nonsense now.
01:19:08.000There's maybe five in LA. There's probably a couple more than that, but anyone that has been working there for the last 15 years is still working there.
01:19:14.000They're not hiring new young blood to come in because they need to work for the next 15 years.
01:19:25.000You can do it at home easy used to have to have like these incredible systems, right?
01:19:28.000And now you just have like a regular Apple computer or even a Windows computer is fine, right?
01:19:32.000Dave Grohl's movie called like Sound City or something like that I believe came out a couple years goes really good and kind of shows How that all happened over the last ten years?
01:19:40.000Yeah, it's you're finding these houses for sale.
01:19:43.000There's a lot of houses that have like recording studios built in them for sale But you don't need all that shit.
01:19:49.000Yeah There's a lot of those instances Of the technology.
01:19:57.000The technology just doesn't wait for you.
01:19:59.000If you learn computer programming pre-1990, what are you going to do today?
01:20:53.000I had some academics come to me because they had listened.
01:20:56.000I have a lot of academics on my podcast, the old Brian Count show.
01:21:04.000I had some academics come to me and say, listen, we want to put together a convention, something called Evocon.
01:21:11.000So it's a convention on evolution and we want to get all the great minds of evolution together and people that understand it and get together and have a convention about evolution and with the idea that we can get that 40% of Americans or whoever it is who don't believe in evolution over on our side.
01:21:28.000Let's give them the evidence because the scientific community Science is fascinating, but they've done a very bad job communicating their message.
01:21:35.000They don't do a good job communicating.
01:21:37.000Because what happens with academics and people in that world is that they become very insular.
01:21:44.000And they're only talking to each other, and they're not talking to people who are casting votes and who ultimately have a say in public policy and stuff.
01:21:54.000Well, you know, I learned from Kevin Afolta, who was on the podcast the other day, who was a scientist, And works a lot with GM foods, GMO foods, and explaining what they really are.
01:22:04.000One of the things he was talking about to me was that he works for the public, essentially.
01:23:01.000The university makes money off of it, and he just gave them to everybody, and then they threatened him to make an example, and he ended up killing himself.
01:23:10.000That seems, here, more than a year after Swartz killed himself rather than face prosecutions, questions about MIT's handling of the case persist.
01:23:19.000I feel as though, I think Aaron Schwartz, you know, if you have, if somebody has intellectual property, it's an academic paper on something, and they can make money off it, they should be allowed to make money off it.
01:23:33.000And if it's your property and somebody comes in and breaks into your password and just gives it away for free, that's not cool.
01:23:43.000If you are a public scientist, and if you are working for a university that receives tax dollars from the community, and you do this work, doesn't that work belong to everyone?
01:24:51.000But the idea that this guy was under so much stress that he killed himself over releasing academic papers, which clearly there's no malice involved.
01:25:52.000They're fundamentalists about it, yeah.
01:25:53.000They don't understand what it means to modify these foods, like these ideas of frankenfoods, these ideas of what's dangerous and deadly.
01:26:01.000It's something that people have been doing forever.
01:26:03.000They've just been doing it, and he was explaining how they were splicing plants together and creating hybrids of plants, and that they would take, you know, the pollen...
01:26:11.000Sometimes they require less pesticides.
01:26:14.000But he's always saying, he was talking about it, this has been done forever.
01:26:17.000The difference being that now they're engineering certain things to turn on jeans or turn off jeans.
01:26:23.000And people are concerned that this could be really dangerous.
01:26:26.000And he was really honest about it, man.
01:26:29.000He's like, yes, there should be some concern.
01:26:33.000He was really honest about the whole idea of, yeah, we don't exactly know that this is going to be safe for everybody at every single turn, every time.
01:26:42.000But if you just look at the things, we're going over the things that kill people right now, like peanuts and...
01:26:48.000I mean, Brian has a fucking allergy to penicillin.
01:27:08.000So if it's a combinatory plant or vegetable, something that they've created, and it whacks out one person out of 100 million, should that be okay?
01:27:17.000I don't think it should, but man, it's a tough argument.
01:27:43.000But the thing about this is that people are worried about cancer because they're worried about what they're doing to these plants are not natural, and that's how they're able to fight off these pesticides.
01:27:55.000When you look into what's actually going on, actually being done, I think most of the plants that we're worried about when it comes to that stuff, I think those are the ones that they feed to animals.
01:28:06.000And then you're worried about, okay, now you're eating the animal that's eating this stuff that has this roundup shit on it.
01:28:23.000He had an episode where he shot this bear in Alaska, and as he's butchering the bear, the bear fat has blue.
01:28:30.000It's a blue hue, like, almost a purple hue.
01:28:33.000Because of the blueberries this thing's been eating.
01:28:36.000Who's to say that if you're giving a fucking cow or you're giving some whatever animal some this Roundup shit if it's in if you're spraying it on vegetables to kill bugs and then those vegetables get fed Are you washing them before you give them your cows like how exactly are you treating them to make sure there's nothing in there?
01:28:57.000If there is something in there just like how the blueberry makes the bear taste different That's gotta do something to what you're eating.
01:29:04.000It's just got to and It's just gotta be affecting the flesh that you're taking into your body.
01:29:09.000And there's a potential, if you're eating toxic shit, if that cow is eating some pesticides, that's gotta be able to get into the meat.
01:31:04.000The guy who, they were spraying the trees, I think it was California, the orange trees for fruit flies or whatever, and he started the meeting.
01:31:13.000He was the owner of the company, started the meeting by drinking an entire glass of it.
01:31:33.000Well, I think bugs, I don't know, but I do know that usually it'll attack the bug's central nervous system or something, or it causes some, it fucks with one enzyme.
01:31:42.000I would like to talk to that dude today.
01:32:13.000I hear it's, first of all, there are two things that he has going for him, and I know a girl dated him, and I dated her for about ten minutes, and she said, well, he plays the piano, concert piano, he's a concert pianist, basically, and he's got a donkey dick.
01:32:28.000And I thought, I said, of course, I went, hold on, I stop everything, fuck his piano, let's get to his dick immediately.
01:33:25.000He's great as a scientist, too, because as a scientist, he has all these unique quirks about the way he describes things and processes things.
01:33:32.000You totally believe he's intelligent enough to be making that.
01:33:35.000Like in The Fly, it's a perfect example.
01:33:37.000Can you imagine a dull actor playing that role?
01:33:40.000When he's pitching it and he's passionate about it, that excitement, you really believe it.
01:33:47.000You really believe he's the guy who created that transporter.
01:33:50.000There's also that kind of a thing he does.
01:33:53.000He's always thinking about it as he talks about it.
01:33:56.000I just wear the same clothing all the time and pick it up from Einstein because that way I don't have to think about what I wear.
01:34:04.000He's one of those guys where while he's doing it on stage or in a, you know, on the movie, you really believe, you forget that it's Jeff Goldblum.
01:35:46.000The point is, like, well, the only thing that could be not the point is, is he that same guy now?
01:35:53.000Is he that same guy now, or were you dealing with a guy who, if many people don't know, Roman Polanski, terrible as he might be, suffered one of the most insane things that can ever happen to a person.
01:36:25.000That was his baby at the time and his wife at the time.
01:36:29.000I mean, that has got to be a mind breaker.
01:36:34.000Now, I'm not saying that that would resort someone to pedophilia.
01:36:38.000But, I mean, who knows what was going on in that guy's mind or life at that point.
01:36:44.000If he's not that guy anymore, and that woman, wherever she is, if she's still alive, forgives him, I could see him being able to lead a normal life.
01:36:56.000He was also, I believe, a concentration camp survivor, or at least he had been in the Holocaust in Poland as a Jew and had to flee.
01:37:03.000Yeah, I think one of those two, I remember as well.
01:37:06.000So it's like, look, that guy's been through some horrific, horrific shit, and it certainly doesn't justify or exonerate him, rather, from anything terrible that he's done.
01:37:36.000That's why the statute of limitations exists, because you're not thought to be that person anymore?
01:37:39.000I believe that's the logic behind, I believe that's at least the partial logic behind that law.
01:37:50.000Contracts like contracts and leases and things along those lines like it's like agreeing that you're gonna be the same person to a certain extent like a marriage or More relevant even if somebody on death row who committed a crime when he was 18 now he's 45 and is a very different person than when he was 18 That was there are a lot of examples of that Well,
01:38:13.000why are you expected to be responsible for things that you did 18 over, but under 18, you become a juvenile?
01:38:23.000But the reason for that is physiological, actually.
01:38:25.000The reason for that is that the frontal cortex of a teenager is not fully developed, and that's the area of your brain you use to make decisions.
01:38:34.000And so teenagers, biologically, from what I understand, are more impulsive and all that.
01:39:02.000And a lot of it is a lack of perspective, lack of understanding what the consequences of your actions are, and these weird impulses that teenagers have, these weird ancient fucking primate impulses that still exist, that are, you know, passed down.
01:39:23.000The other thing, I mean, I don't know whether he knew she was 13. There are a lot of issues, but, I mean, at the end of the day, if you have sex with a 13-year-old, you know, and she's drugged up, I don't know, man.
01:40:11.000And Krakow, remember, most of the terrible concentration camps were in Poland.
01:40:15.000And if you lived in that Krakow ghetto, During that time period it was the worst some of the worst probably one of the worst places to be in the history Look at that during the age of five he attended primary school for only a few weeks until all the Jewish children were Abruptly expelled.
01:40:30.000God, that's gotta be so fucking scary Yeah, just tell your children you can't go to school anymore cuz you're Jews and they got then they were sent off Sent off to concentration camps, killed very quickly.
01:41:35.000You know, today, you would say it would be 25 years, at least, right?
01:41:39.000If someone did that to a 13-year-old, you'd say 25 years in jail.
01:41:45.000If he comes over here, and it's so many years after the crime, does he have to do the same amount of time that he would have had to do if it was the 1970s when he was convicted?
01:41:55.000I don't think that if he came over here, he would be thrown in jail.
01:43:14.000The biggest—Cicero, it goes back to the Romans, where it says, look, if you park your chariot here in this town, well, you're going to get a fine.
01:43:24.000Where I live in Carthage, I can park my chariot there.
01:43:27.000And the guy goes, all right, well, here's a warning.
01:43:29.000Don't do it again, because now you're in Rome.
01:43:32.000But, if you snatch a baby out of a woman's arms and kill it, or something terrible, regardless, the law will say in Rome, no, you go to jail.
01:43:43.000No, but in Carthage we're allowed to do that, or I'm from the Mongol-Tartar steppes, we do that.
01:43:52.000Because what you did falls under an unnatural act.
01:43:58.000So no matter what your culture says, that was an unnatural act, an unnatural act meaning they were outside the realm of human conduct, and so you must pay a price regardless of where you're from, including whether or not you knew that was right or wrong.
01:44:15.000That's a very important aspect of law.
01:44:18.000It's something that people talk about all the time.
01:44:21.000That's how you start drawing distinctions between crimes that are excusable based on circumstance and crimes that just...
01:44:32.000Drug smuggling is one thing, but there are crimes like all of us in most societies would suggest that if an adult has sex with a five-year-old, I don't give a fuck, It's an unnatural it's an unnatural crime and you're all you're gonna do you're gonna do did you see that the Silk Road creator got life in prison without the possibility of parole no did you see that it's insane the Silk Road as in Afghanistan no the Silk Road is it was a dark web there's a great documentary
01:45:03.000by Alex Winter what's it called the deep web and it's about the dark web it's about this the system that was created by the military and And They were using it to buy and sell drugs and some people who bought those drugs died and they they overdosed These people that were using it were not him and wasn't the guy who created it The guy created just a portal for people to use it He created a way for people to communicate and exchange drugs for money or for bitcoins
01:45:34.000or for whatever They were investigated by these DEA agents turned out the DEA agents stole like hundreds of thousands of dollars and And Bitcoin, and transferred it into personal accounts, and there was a lot of fuckery involved.
01:45:46.000And he went to jail, and they just tried him and convicted him, and the judge sentenced him to life in prison.
01:45:57.000If the appeal is not successful, he will concurrently serve two life sentences, a 20 year sentence, a 15 year sentence, and a 5 year sentence without parole.
01:46:26.000He thought he was working for good because he's a talented programmer and he figured out a way to let people buy things that they wanted to buy.
01:46:35.000It was giving people the opportunity a way to anonymously or semi-anonymously trade goods and funds for things that were deemed prohibited.
01:46:47.000I'm surprised that they weren't able to argue, create a better defense for him.
01:46:51.000Well, I don't think you get a chance to, man.
01:46:53.000I think you get railroaded by the government in these sort of cases.
01:46:57.000If they want to, they can keep things out of evidence.
01:47:01.000The idea that you get a totally fair trial is really sad.
01:47:05.000It's not the case, especially when it comes to drugs.
01:47:08.000You know, when Todd McCormick got arrested, he went to jail for growing medical marijuana legally under state laws.
01:47:14.000They addressed him, they arrested him, and prosecuted him in a federal court.
01:47:18.000When they get you in a federal court, the first thing they tell you is, there is no such thing as medical marijuana, so you're not allowed to mention medical marijuana.
01:47:25.000You can't use it as a defense, you can't bring it up.
01:47:27.000Like, you could cause a mistrial or you could get sanctioned by the court if you change the definitions, if you bring up the fact that it's legal in your state.
01:47:37.000Since it's not legal federally, it's irrelevant.
01:47:40.000So they silence you from communicating the realities of this nuanced situation.
01:47:45.000They try to pretend that it's black and white.
01:52:44.000And they could get away with dictator-type shit like that.
01:52:49.000But if there was no tax system in place and they just started taxing us, taking all this money, we'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the fuck, man?
01:52:56.000Like if you were just paying state taxes.
01:54:49.000I don't know, but you've been paying into a till for a long time.
01:54:51.000Well, you have to look no further than civil forfeiture laws.
01:54:54.000Look at those fucking creepy things, where they just pull you over and you have $10,000 on you, and they decide we're going to take it because we think you're selling drugs.
01:56:26.000If you should die before you begin to get your monthly check, your family will get a payment in cash amounting to 3.5 cents on every dollar of wages you have earned after 1936. If, for example, you should die at age 64 and you had it earned $25 a week for 10 years before that time,