Bill O'Reilly, Bill Cosby, Bill Paxton, Donald Trump, Bill Simmons, Bill Clinton, and Bill Cosby. The list goes on and on. It's a long list of things Bill has said and said them in this episode, but the point is that Bill Cosby is one of the most interesting people I've ever met. He's smart, funny, smart, smart-assed, and smart-ass, and he does it all with a smile on his face. And he's not even gay. I mean, he's gay, but he's also smart, dumb, and dumb and dumb. And that's why he's one of my favorite people in the entire world, and I'm so glad he's here to talk about it. We also talk about Bill's new book, Who's Looking Out For You? and how he's a good friend of mine and I think he's going to be a great president. I hope you enjoy this episode and that it makes you think about Bill and Bill a little bit more carefully before you decide whether or not to vote for him in the 2020 presidential election. We'll see you in 2020. If you like it, tweet us and tell us what you thought of it! Timestamps: 4:00 - Who's the funniest person you ve ever met? 6:30 - Bill Cosby? 7:15 - How Bill Cosby was gay? 8:20 - What's the worst person you've ever? 9:40 - What kind of guy Bill Cosby knew? 11: What do you think of a good guy? 14:00:00 16: Who's looking out for you? 17:00- What's your favorite celebrity? 18:30- Who's your best friend? 19:20- Bill Cosby's favorite movie? 21:00 Is he a good man? 22:40- What s your favorite movie star? 26:30 27:00 What's a bad guy you can do? 29:00 Who's a gay guy you like? 32:00 Do you think Bill Cosby better than Donald Trump? 35: Is Bill Cosby a better than Bill Cosby more than Bill Sr. ? 36:00 | Who's better than your dad? 37:40 39:00 Can you be more gay than Bill s feet? 40:00
00:09:58.000We're talking about there's some guys, especially like foreign guys, I have a lot of friends from England, where you'll be like, yeah, I hooked up with this girl, man, she was a freak.
00:10:05.000To all of us, it's like, oh, cool, man.
00:10:26.000The guy from the boxing gym, the way I described it is like, I don't know how to speak French, but if you told me the words to say, I could say them, but I wouldn't know what the fuck I was saying.
00:12:06.000My old girlfriend, I had a girlfriend who told me that she just dated a guy who I knew who used to put her feet in his mouth when he was having sex.
00:13:32.000Most of them don't have dudes they have to take care of unless they're like older guys that are like hanging on and they have like these younger dudes that don't have any money.
00:14:29.000I heard of a girl, she was applying for a job out here at a doctor office, and it was like an assistant job, and the doctor had in the contract that you had to give them a blowjob a certain time during the day.
00:17:42.000Immediately after the television show, his wife divorces him.
00:17:45.000And now she wants for the next, because they had been married for ten years, she wants for the next five years half of what he was making when he was on the television show in Alamone.
00:17:55.000First of all, if you get a television show, if you're lucky as fuck, it goes a year.
00:20:11.000You've got to get to the set when they say.
00:20:14.000All those things are against what you are.
00:20:16.000What you are is this Weird free spirit who grew up all over the world, and you know, you kind of were on your own a little bit too much, and so you made friends in weird ways, and so you developed this fucking crazy personality.
00:22:29.000If we were on the set and you wanted me to help write your movie, you wanted me to help make the movie better, I would ad-lib a whole scene where I say, just married.
00:22:38.000I go, but I'm, no, I'm not gonna do that.
00:24:02.000You would think it's like, it's easier to work a job than it is to work a show where it could be funny and it turns out to be awful because you're so conflicted.
00:24:13.000As a comic, when you know something is really bad, it's like...
00:26:14.000I've cried on auditions where I've cried in a very dramatic scene and I've got seven people I don't know looking at me and I'm fucking crying but doing the lines and I'm fucking good.
00:27:44.000Dude, if you don't like making a lot of money talking and doing what comes naturally, and if you'd rather go in there and get punched in the face by monsters, please, whatever you want to do, I'm just here to support whatever decision you make, take a deep breath, and don't say anything.
00:28:24.000They'd have to put him in a medically induced coma for five months.
00:28:27.000Oh, well, this is a good point to talk about because now that they're the new standards, the new testing standards, they're not allowing IVs anymore.
00:28:39.000So they're checking for levels of plastic.
00:28:43.000But it's dangerous when you do that because it takes, they say, almost seven days to fully hydrate your cells the way they were when you were drinking.
00:28:51.000Like with an IV, you can hydrate much faster.
00:28:53.000Head trauma is way more likely when you're dehydrated and you don't have time in 24 hours to drink yourself hydrated.
00:29:00.000I think they're taking it too far now.
00:29:04.000Okay, but is there an argument to be made for the fact that they're just going to cut out weight cutting now and that would be better for everybody?
00:29:10.000Or would they never cut out weight cutting?
00:29:12.000Would people take a chance and fight dehydrated?
00:31:30.000But that leads me to the question of, if they have such stringent testing for steroids, I feel like you're not gonna see guys fighting into their 30s.
00:31:50.000And I think that, you know, Gilbert Melendez or people like that who are now in their 30s training on that level, I think what you're gonna see is, you know, it's not possible.
00:32:01.000You could make the argument that it's not possible to fight on a high level like that at 30, in your 30s, without some help.
00:32:46.000He's one of the best strikers ever in the heavyweight division, and Mark Hunt hit him with bombs, and him and Bigfoot went five fucking rounds of death.
00:32:54.000I have a Roots of Fight jacket that Dana White had made, Mark Hunt, Bigfoot, Silva 2. And he was so hyped up about the rematch that he had Jesse from Roots of Fight make a limited run of these Mark Hunt Bigfoot Silva 2 shirts.
00:34:22.000I had a favorite baseball player, and his bat speed starts slowing down in 31, 32. And with testosterone, he could play for another six years.
00:35:12.000I agree, because you're talking about health concerns.
00:35:14.000Yeah, well, you're talking about doing damage to somebody, and that damage could essentially be permanent.
00:35:18.000Like, no one knows better than you that the amount of training that you have to do in order to get in tip-top shape to fight is fucking ungodly.
00:35:43.000When you're doing three a days wrestling practice, fucking battle ropes and fucking deadlifts and all that crazy shit, and you're going to war.
00:35:55.000You got that fucking engine redlined and you can only do it for so long.
00:35:59.000And the amount of effort that you put in, there's a direct correlation between the effort that you put in and what you can do when you actually get into the octagon on fight day.
00:36:10.000If you're a guy like Dos Anjos versus Anthony Pettis, it's a perfect example.
00:36:17.000Dos Anjos trained like a fucking wild demon.
00:36:21.000And because of that, he had this insane cardio.
00:36:24.000He was working out with the Marinoviches guy, Nick Kurson.
00:36:38.000Like, Marinovich had BJ Penn in the best fucking shape of his life, but when BJ talked about it, he's like, I couldn't hold my daughter in my arms when I got home.
00:37:59.000Yeah, a lot of guys are going to be forced to, but also, you're going to see a lot less endurance, because I guarantee you guys were blood doping.
00:40:07.000Point is, I was watching those two together, and I was watching them move around Jacare's clothes in the distance on them, and I'm like, these are two different species.
00:41:49.000And fighting might be different because there's so much skill and technique Fighting is different because less than 1% are Ronda Rousey's or Jon Jones or Cain Velasquez.
00:41:59.000There's also some people like genetically have power.
00:42:38.000It's arguable that his era is not as talented as the era of Sugar Ray Leonard or all those other guys, but when it comes to the ability to hit and not get hit, in my opinion, he's the best.
00:42:51.000Because Roy Jones Jr. was a motherfucker!
00:42:53.000He was a motherfucker and he would I mean he just had his own style There was just like so much about Roy Jones It was just and in his prime during those few years where he was redlined and when he was at the top Virtually untouchable.
00:44:17.000I'm still doing exactly what the number one guy is doing as far as getting hit, competitions, fighting, camps, everything, but I'm not getting the same payment.
00:46:08.000George St. Pierre got a million pay-per-view buys.
00:46:10.000George and Chad Mendes is a different animal.
00:46:12.000Chad Mendes got beat twice by Jose Aldo.
00:46:14.000But the last fight was razor close, and there's an argument that could be made that if they fought in America, he would have won that decision.
00:46:20.000There's also an argument to be made that if Jose Aldo didn't land that late punch after the first round that knocked Mendez down, had Mendez very hurt, it could have been a very different fight.
00:46:29.000Chad Mendez, who knows how badly he got hurt by that late punch.
00:49:37.000I put that shit aside and I go into those fights like an empty objective person.
00:49:43.000I try to because I've done it before where I thought one guy would win and then I think maybe it like flavored my commentary and then I took criticism for it and then I would listen to that criticism and I'm gonna go, I think they got some good points.
00:49:54.000You know, and so I adjusted my own approach to watching fights.
00:49:59.000So now when I watch fights, I watch fights with...
00:51:33.000Do you think that Jose Aldo, even though he's been a champion, he's amazing, do you think Jose Aldo, in some ways, is actually an easier fight for Conor than his Chapman is?
00:53:46.000His second fight with Jose Aldo, if I could make one fight and put it to the future, like lock it up, like watch this, this is what the UFC is, it'd be his second fight with Jose Aldo.
00:53:56.000The technique, the back and forth, the five rounds, it's one of the best fights in UFC history.
01:03:36.000But my buddy, we were at a party, and it was all great, and she was the kind of person who would get drunk and you wouldn't know it.
01:03:44.000My buddy was there, and he said, I saw, he said he saw the whole thing, and this is where I'm just, hear me out, because she thought I was looking at a friend who was there at my party, a girl, and she just attacked me physically.
01:03:58.000And I countered by getting her in underhooks or something, and I kind of hip-tossed her away from me, and we both crashed through a window.
01:04:26.000Somebody else saw only me hip tossing her through the, well, kind of, not really hip tossing, but getting her away from me, and he saw me hip tossing her through the glass.
01:05:32.000We're just talking about, also, sometimes, as we all know, you can get in a situation where, like, just that example, I could have been, if somebody had seen a segment of that, I could have been in a big fucking trouble.
01:05:42.000Yeah, for sure, let's get over your situation.
01:05:43.000Okay, well, here, let's talk about reality, okay?
01:06:02.000But there's also women that will pretend.
01:06:04.000Now, I have a friend, and he was breaking up with his girlfriend, and she said, and he recorded it, and she started saying things like, you know, I'm going to tell the police you hit me, I'm going to throw myself down a flight of stairs, all this kind of crazy shit.
01:08:14.000Yeah, and for the most part, I think that I have to believe, and it's just I don't know this person, I don't know Travis, I don't know the situation, but I do feel like, you know, when you post pictures like that to Instagram, I feel like this is definitely not the first time he's been hitting her,
01:08:29.000and she's finally had enough and decided this is the only way I can protect myself.
01:08:34.000She said she was embarrassed that she waited so long.
01:08:46.000There are a lot of countries right now in this world where you, as a wife, if you're getting the shit beat out of you, there are no laws that protect you.
01:10:27.000And I don't know if this is true, but I heard from a cop who did a lot, a detective who said, well, you get a lot of face stabbings in the gay community.
01:10:35.000He goes, when lovers fight, man, you can usually tell that somebody knew the other person and was physical with them, like in love with them and physically, you know, sexually physical, if their faces are, they have 15 fucking stab wounds in their face.
01:10:46.000That's weird, like a great white shark.
01:10:47.000That's very typical of somebody who hates, like I loved you and now I fucking hate you and I'm going to stab your face.
01:11:51.000How crazy is it that we talk about fights like, you know, we're just a bunch of dudes sitting around talking, then it becomes news stories.
01:12:14.000You know what I've learned on podcasts, too, is, you know, I joke around, I make stuff funny, but then, boom, it's a headline, like, shit, I better watch what I say a little bit.
01:12:23.000Well, when you joke around, also, there's a difference between listening to you talk in context of a full conversation, where there's a lot of shit talking and laughing, or taking it and We're printing it.
01:12:33.000When it's two-dimensional, it's on paper.
01:12:35.000Well, like Fox did an article where Brian asked me on one of our podcasts, he goes, how do you think Conor's feeling right now?
01:12:43.000You know, like the anxiety of fighting, you change your opponent 12 days, it's a completely different style, you're fighting a wrestler, there's some nerves there, man, but he's terrified.
01:12:53.000Not that he's not going to win or he doesn't believe in himself.
01:12:55.000Just naturally, everyone's terrified to fight, man.
01:13:45.000I'm a huge Ken Shamrock fan, and that's one of the reasons why I was suspicious about him not being able to finish that rear naked choke.
01:13:51.000Underneath the neck, underneath the neck on anybody, with a fresh Ken Shamrock, But I guess, you know, you have a good point that he's 51, and, you know, I mean, look, Kimbo's not a joke, but his ground game's always been the weakest part of his game.
01:14:05.000There's a lot of issues with that fight that a lot of people had, but the big issue was there were fights in Ken's past that were absolutely worked.
01:15:41.000Guys like Pete Williams came out of there.
01:15:43.000Yeah, there was a lot of great fighters that came out of there.
01:15:45.000And that whole Tony Galindo, there was a whole group of guys that came up in that era that wound up being really big fighters, and a lot of it was under his tutelage.
01:16:14.000Yeah, if he was a pioneer in any other sport, if he was a pioneer as a NASCAR driver, if he was a pioneer in basketball or anything, he would be set for life.
01:16:23.000Living in a mansion, drinking martinis by the pool, on NBC, Wild World of Sports, talking about fights that are upcoming, and treated with the respect that he deserves.
01:16:31.000But he's in this unfavorable position where he's got to fight at 51 years old.
01:16:35.000And one thing that I like that he said is, I've earned the right to fight for fun.
01:16:39.000And if that's what he's doing, if that's what he wants to do, I'm 100% down with that.
01:17:02.000Well, you're a different guy because you're funny, and you've got a fun personality, and you translated perfectly into podcasting, and you're lucky you know Brian Gallen.
01:19:19.000What I was thinking is like you know how fighters like one of my favorite things to watch up to fights when I get really hyped up So I watch all their their videos they're putting up of training footage and all this different shit I get I'm like if you had like organized shit like if camps put together organ like some guys do you know like McGregor's done some and and some guys like will have cameras follow them around training and those can get a lot of hits and Those fucking things can get a lot of hits.
01:20:50.000You guys, the Fighter and the Kid, I told you, when I did the taping of Brian's stand-up special, and I came to that show, and I was like, it was a sea of Fighter and the Kid shirts.
01:21:08.000I get that, and you can say, well, you have a podcast to sell shirts, but a guy like Conor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, you can have your own shit instead of having Reebok.
01:21:19.000I was on set of UFC Now or UFC Night, and I was talking to a guy, I'm not going to say his name, and I go, bro, why would you have your fans pay $95 for this Reebok shirt?
01:30:11.000Boxing, in a way, is probably worse than the UFC. It is worse than the UFC. The only thing is, is Floyd Mayweather owns a piece of the promotion.
01:32:25.000Yeah, look, if someone gave me Reebok sneakers and said these are the only sneakers you could wear for the rest of your life, it wouldn't hurt me.
01:32:31.000No, I mean, I'd burn them, throw them in the trash.
01:32:54.000But I think with the Reebok thing, it's an exclusive apparel contract because a lot of, like, fight chicks, they had to say that they weren't going to be at the expo, and a lot of other apparel companies had to say they weren't going to be at the expo.
01:34:11.000He doesn't have the exclusive deal that he had before where they were sponsoring him outside of his fight.
01:34:15.000True, but you're fighting with Reebok on, so technically you're sponsoring.
01:34:17.000Like if Travis Brown, let's say, whatever, he beats up his wife, and he fights next month, He's still rocking Reebok.
01:34:26.000Whether they like it or not, you're still sponsoring that.
01:34:29.000That's a very weird place for Reebok to be, because now they have to kind of get involved in whether or not this guy fights, because that's very damaging.
01:34:36.000That's a big risk for them, where you go, you fucked up, the UFC forgives you.
01:34:41.000Yeah, but there's more pros than cons.
01:35:38.000But it would have to be an extreme example where there's a debate in a fucking closed room and Dana White's head's turning red and the fucking Reebok guy's yelling too and they go, alright, here's the deal.
01:41:18.000And that's a perfect fight for Fox Sports 1 prelims, to get people set up to watch the main event on pay-per-view, because you're going to be frothing at the mouth by the time this fight is over.
01:49:52.000It would be interesting if they both had full camps.
01:49:54.000It's interesting now with the added element of the fact they didn't have full camp to prepare for each other.
01:49:59.000Of course, Conor is in full camp for Aldo, so he's going to be in shape, but strategically, game plan-wise, and having those fine motor skills prepared for stuffing that takedown, keeping the I bet you he wasn't even working stuffing takedowns because Aldo isn't a guy who takes you down.
01:50:18.000Well, he certainly would work on everything.
01:50:20.000You don't get to this level, Brian, without fucking covering all your bases.
01:50:24.000Yeah, but if you're going with guys in practice, they're not just going to sit there like dumbasses.
01:50:28.000No, it's MMA. You're just not going to bring in strikers.
01:50:31.000You're going to bring in all sorts of guys.
01:52:15.000To see a guy lose on a matchup that he got on 12 days notice and it's a completely different style, I don't want to see him go out like that.
01:54:42.000It's gonna be giant, and especially when you've got a guy like Connors cut in 27 pounds.
01:54:46.000Where did you get that statistic about it takes seven days to fully rehydrate?
01:54:49.000I talked to a medic, an army medic on the set of Kingdom, who was a wrestler in college, and he was talking about how he said the biggest problem with this IV thing, and this is just him, I don't know if it's right, but he said the biggest problem is that you can see a lot more traumatic brain injury If guys aren't allowed to hydrate with IVs,
01:55:07.000because it takes a long time to hydrate orally as opposed to with an IV. And he said that to get fully hydrated where your cells are where they were before it takes up to seven days.
01:55:18.000Now, I don't know if that's, you know, the case.
01:55:20.000Well, that's what Andy Foster said, that a good percentage of fighters are fighting dehydrated.
01:55:26.000When they get into the octagon, they're not fully hydrated.
01:56:08.000You're talking about microscopic amounts of residue from the plastics.
01:56:11.000Now you're testing for fucking plastics.
01:56:13.000Now you're testing for plastics, which apparently, the reason this all came out is the plastics can mask, apparently, according to this medic, the plastics themselves, I guess, can mask whether or not you've been blood doping.
01:56:24.000Or there are similar compounds in there, and it makes it harder to test.
01:56:37.000If they test your blood, and your blood has traces of this plastic in it, it means you might have taken bags of blood and put them back in your body.
01:56:44.000That doesn't hold water either, though, because then you could just say, I was doing what everybody else did, which is an IV. I was rehydrating.
01:56:49.000But you can't do an IV. You can't do an IV. No, I'm saying before that, right?
01:56:51.000Well, they didn't test for it before that.
01:56:53.000This is the first time they've ever tested for these plastics.
01:57:27.000Guys are cutting a lot more weight back in the day.
01:57:28.000Right, but I still say that the BJ Penn that fought Diego Sanchez was one of the best, if not the best, 155 pounds that ever walked the fucking face of the planet.
01:58:20.000Concerns over dangerous weight cuts and improper rehydration in the short term have won out over the US ADA's desire to get rid of IV usage.
01:58:29.000Fighters now have a three-month grace period to adjust.
01:58:33.000Yeah, there's an argument that they shouldn't do this.
02:01:11.000They're not on the side of time and technological advancement, and it's going to be very tough, because I feel like science is always going to find a way to beat any kind of...
02:01:23.000I'm not saying it's an excuse, but I'm just saying it's going to be interesting to see how now scientists who are involved in the fight game and fighters figure out a way around this testing five times a year.
02:01:34.000Very difficult, but something will happen.
02:01:36.000Well, it'll be a battle between the cheaters and the detectors because the science involved in detecting is getting better as well.
02:03:00.000They did a really interesting profile on him.
02:03:03.000Well, there was other guys that were like that, too.
02:03:05.000I mean, there's always a few guys that just will work harder than anybody else on top of the fact that they're just absolute freak athletes.
02:04:01.000Do you remember that movie, The Grifters, when the guy takes a pillowcase and he starts putting oranges in the pillowcase and he goes, you know why I'm doing this.
02:05:00.000You know, I think apparently he was at the table and she took it and just cracked him in the back of the head and bludgeoned him to death with a leg of lamb and then...
02:05:50.000And he used to, he was big in the horse racing thing, and one of the testimonies was that the guy, he brought him out to talk to him, because they were just a little suspicious.
02:05:59.000And another guy was walked out, and he had a blindfold on.
02:07:03.000I was watching a documentary on mobsters, like the American Mob, which started in New York and all those guys, and you look at the whole setup they had, and it's like, God, these days, you're not doing that shit, man.
02:07:20.000And I said, you know, he said, we don't rely, you'd be amazed at how we don't rely a lot of times on forensics and fingerprints.
02:07:27.000He said, when you're investigating a murder, they were homicide detectives.
02:07:29.000He said, when you're investigating a murder, you have to realize, most people confess.
02:07:34.000Once you get them in questioning, What you're dealing with is they know in their hearts, they've been raised, even if you're a sociopath, you've been raised from a very young age to believe this, to know that this is the ultimate crime.
02:07:47.000And by the time you get them in there, and you know how to properly interrogate somebody and really ask them questions, and more importantly, get them on your side.
02:07:56.000Just go, listen, dude, listen, everybody does crazy shit once in a while.
02:08:01.000There's a Radio Lab podcast about that guy that was a very prolific serial killer in the Pacific Northwest with a river killer.
02:09:30.000And then they come in and that's, there are behaviors, this book The Murder Room is so fucking incredible, this guy Richard Walter.
02:09:37.000There are behaviors that people do, like certain guys will rape and kill a woman, but when they're raping her, if she dies in the process, they'll stop immediately because they don't want the cops to think they're freaks.
02:11:23.000We're like, okay, well, that can't be fun.
02:11:25.000Well, on my podcast, she said her skin was bad because she was taken, and her dermatologist said, I think you're taking in too much testosterone.
02:19:29.000I watched Kevin Hart wrestle with Laurence Fishburne.
02:19:32.000We shot this scene where he had to basically have a fight.
02:19:37.000You want to talk about athletic and explosive, he might be 5'4", but we were all going, look at how fucking fast he moves!
02:19:44.000And he was doing it comedically, under his legs, and Laurence is a big guy.
02:19:49.000I was kind of taken aback with just how long he was able to keep that shit up, doing his own stunts, jumping through the air, diving through his legs.
02:19:58.000Well, he has videos he puts on Instagram of him working out every morning, and he does crazy shit like he climbs a rope onto a chin-up bar.
02:20:03.000I wish he would ditch the workout gloves, though.
02:21:45.000One of my favorite people in the world.
02:21:47.000And I train with him all the time because I get to train with him and he teaches me the way you're probably supposed to teach, which is he'll throw shots at me, not full, obviously, but you learn a little bit of how to move if you're working with a guy that good and then you go to a guy who's not good, you're going to be able to move a little better.
02:22:02.000Did you see that he's involved in that semicolon thing where you get tattooed like a semicolon on your arm to let you know that like...
02:22:54.000And it's like, you're going to teach me, and he really, no matter when, where, he's always there, always present, and just such a fucking amazing guy.
02:24:56.000For you it's different because like you were first of all at the highest level there is professional UFC and you're sparring with guys like Shane Carwin which is not even a little bit fun, right?