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00:00:02.000What a perfect time to have Lewis from Unbox Therapy on when our TriCaster is taking a big fat shit because we updated the software and then Redband decides right before the show he's going to update his phone and it's going to take about 17 fucking hours right in the middle of someone from the DMV supposed to call him.
00:03:14.000Obviously, you still want to use it as a regular phone.
00:03:16.000And those are the lenses that will allow you to focus in on the display at an incredibly close range.
00:03:23.000Now, the nerds out there, they talk a lot about the resolution of phones.
00:03:29.000And some say, oh, well, there's no need to have a phone with a display beyond 1080p, let's say, because at this range here, you would never notice those pixels.
00:03:38.000But the minute you stick them in an environment like this, just an inch away from your eyeball, all of a sudden you can discern those pixels that you couldn't at phone usage range.
00:03:48.000What happens with people who wear glasses?
00:04:11.000So the cool thing in this particular case compared to some of the other stuff that I've shown off before, like Google Cardboard and the really inexpensive ones, is that since this is designed specifically for this device, you get touch interface, touchpad for controlling taps and stuff.
00:06:00.000I would say it's more convenient than Oculus Rift and probably arguably more of a game changer in the sense that people don't have to go out and buy this standalone expensive headset and then have a dedicated PC to use it.
00:06:51.000I mean, it would be a really interesting experiment to see how many times that thing interrupts my day, like a smartphone, because it's probably, I don't know, a thousand times, maybe?
00:07:00.000It really trains you like a buzz caller on an animal or something like that.
00:11:14.000Yeah, and you know, part of the conversation here is about content, too.
00:11:18.000It's like, well, how do you go from having a piece of video and turning it into 360-degree video like he's watching right there?
00:11:27.000And we're seeing more and more 360 cameras come out now.
00:11:31.000There's one from Google called Jump, which is this crazy GoPro contraption you may have seen.
00:11:37.000Six or more GoPro Hero 4s, which have an incredible field of view, and then software is what stitches it all together, which is the experience you're seeing in there.
00:11:47.000So theoretically, it's not just games and digital things, but in the future, people will shoot video in 360 and enjoy it in 360. Yeah, that's what I was saying.
00:11:58.000They can do that with movies, and you can see the same movie over and over again, and you'll decide to go outside.
00:12:23.000But yeah, choose your own adventure type scenario.
00:12:28.000Or like mysteries, where you're opening up cupboards to look for little pieces of light.
00:12:32.000Yeah, if you're watching it at home, especially if you can actually move around, like on a unidirectional, if you get one of the unidirectional treadmills that operate based on your movement, they're getting better and better with those.
00:12:44.000They used to be you got strapped in, and you kind of hold onto the thing.
00:12:50.000And now I think they're developing ones that are detecting which way you're standing and walking.
00:12:55.000So they will move accordingly with you.
00:12:59.000And then eventually they'll get to a point where it's going to be indistinguishable between walking outside and walking on this unidirectional treadmill.
00:13:18.000You're never really going to be able to get the grounds off a little bit left, a little bit right.
00:13:23.000Part of the thing, though, about it is I think a lot of people who are into this for consumption are lean-back type situations anyways, right?
00:14:04.000Imagine if you got into the videotape business a couple days ago.
00:14:07.000You're like, I'm gonna fucking set the world on fire with DVD sales.
00:14:10.000I watched a DVD last night, and I forgot.
00:14:13.000The resolution on those are shit when you're watching on a big screen.
00:14:16.000I've never realized how- Regular DVD. Regular DVD. Yeah, 480. I got an email from a company that was offering to transcode all of my YouTube videos into DVDs.
00:14:29.000We're gonna send him off in smoke signals.
00:14:33.000It was like this huge spiel about how the DVD market is not dead yet, and it could service people who don't have connectivity or something.
00:18:16.000But anyhow, I went there, and we shot for 13 hours for about 20 seconds of what will actually be in the film, and everything is blue screened.
00:18:55.000That guy was like, when I had him on the show, he was talking about like, those days are kind of going.
00:19:00.000And it sucks because when you look at like fake monsters in movies, like perfect examples, like those underworld, Hulk's a good example too.
00:19:29.000Even if it's bad, as long as you're looking at a real thing, it's not as offensive.
00:19:35.000Like the creature from the Black Lagoon.
00:19:38.000It's kind of bad, but you're looking at a real thing.
00:19:42.000There's like a lighting thing where you can, with the CG, you can tell it's almost like the shadows and reflections are kind of off a little bit.
00:19:49.000And even if you're dealing with poor costume or, well, I mean, that thing out there is perfect.
00:19:56.000That's better than any CG you're going to possibly get.
00:19:58.000Well, they're getting better at it, though.
00:21:18.000You can't, they, like, this guy that had them.
00:21:21.000I saw a guy walking, too, the other day, some old dude, and he had, uh, they had those face things on them to protect, keep their jaws shut.
00:23:33.000With people, like when they show people, Nvidia had a demonstration and we went to it and one of the cool things about the demo was you could see what they can't get yet.
00:23:44.000They can get eyeballs, they can get skin, they're really good at it, but they can't do eyelashes.
00:25:34.000Because again, coming back to resource intensive tasks, but you can get a sense for what that will be like.
00:25:42.000And so like bringing it full circle back to this thing here, I think that the more accessible this stuff becomes, so the cheaper that VR gets and the less that it's tied down to anything, the smaller that it gets, the greater the likelihood that there'll be enough demand that people will then go and produce cool content for it.
00:27:15.000I haven't checked that out, but the 4K is interesting because the new Apple TV that was announced last week supposedly doesn't run 4K, which I thought was interesting.
00:27:25.000Is it just that they're not pushing the 4K to the masses yet?
00:28:03.000Like some of these countries, I sort of often converse with my audience members and they send me their speed tests and then tell me what they're paying for it.
00:28:13.000And I'm sure there's plenty of people listening here that are going to start tweeting out their speeds.
00:28:17.000Let us know how fast your internet is and what you pay for it.
00:28:20.000But in Korea, for example, I think like $10 gets you 100 by 100. Wow.
00:28:32.000Three up, I think, is the fastest that I can get on AT&T U-verse.
00:28:36.000It's something to do, and I'm not an expert on this, but it's something to do with the cable and DSL structure that there's some sort of signal loss, I think, associated with that, where, for some reason, the upload is more labor-intensive.
00:28:56.000If it's not, then usually it's not real fiber.
00:28:59.000And in places with smaller geographic areas, it's easier to run fiber from the CO point right to the actual customers because the density of people makes it worthwhile to do so.
00:29:14.000And North America, for the most part, is still pretty spread out.
00:29:18.000Google Fiber is emerging in more and more cities, and it's completely going over the top on the incumbent providers, Comcast, AT&T, whoever.
00:29:31.000And the scary thing was they were trying to merge recently.
00:29:45.000Yeah, we're attempting to merge and then the FCC or whatever party it was got involved.
00:29:50.000Well, when you find out they're throttling data and fucking with people that use Netflix and then they made a deal, they had to make a deal with Netflix so that they could get more data because, you know, Netflix was, they were consistently slower when people were using Netflix than anything else.
00:30:09.000You know, traditional media is always taking shots wherever they can to sort of slow down this thing that's happening online because they don't control enough of it.
00:30:18.000But isn't it also because the infrastructure is just not really that good yet?
00:30:21.000I mean, they didn't really prepare for the jumps in the internet usage over the last decade or so.
00:30:27.000That's true, but there are things they could have done to sort of limit the effect of that, like wireless, for example.
00:30:37.000If you're on LTE, all of a sudden you've got 20 megabits up.
00:30:40.000How is it that the wireless connections, for a lot of people, their cell phone Data connection is faster than what they have at home, right?
00:30:50.000But it costs you a lot of money because it's not unlimited.
00:30:53.000So you could imagine that if you had put up more towers or taken down the cost of wireless data, for example, a lot of countries have had to skip over the...
00:31:08.000So if you're in India, for example, they completely skipped laptops and that whole period of time there where everybody was buying a cable connection or a DSL connection.
00:31:18.000They're getting cell phones now, and their primary data connection is going to be on that mobile device.
00:31:24.000And it's the same in a lot of emerging markets around the world.
00:31:27.000So they're investing specifically in wireless as opposed to going backwards and trying to make the wired thing work at all.
00:32:31.000Even me, okay, so I'm from Toronto and I'm on Rogers.
00:32:36.000Not a huge fan or anything, but I'm just saying, comparatively speaking, like when I travel down here, the maximum that I can pay over top of my regular bill is $5 a day, maximum.
00:32:53.000So you're basically using your regular plan even though you're on AT&T or T-Mobile or whoever it is out here.
00:32:59.000Now that's relatively recent, but T-Mobile came out with something that allows for you to cross the Canadian border and the Mexican border and essentially have your exact same plan on both sides.
00:34:32.000It's like it'll be fiber for this portion of the trip, and then it'll go to copper somewhere in there, and you have signal loss, and you end up with what you end up with.
00:34:42.000Now, what is the difference between what Google's trying to do?
00:34:45.000Google gives zero fucks about any of these players.
00:34:50.000They're not trying to even coordinate with them.
00:34:53.000They're going into marketplaces, going to the locals, at least this is how Fiber worked in the early stages, and saying, would you be interested personally in an insanely fast internet connection, and here's the price we could give it to you for.
00:35:06.000And so people within a community would sign a petition saying, yes, I'm interested in that.
00:35:10.000And once they could evaluate the demand, they're building the infrastructure themselves.
00:36:38.000I think, and we may have talked about this before, I think their model, the sort of ad subsidy model, has driven these amazing innovations online.
00:36:47.000But we were talking earlier when I got here about how ad blocking is like the next big conversation for the web.
00:36:56.000Well, it's a big conversation for people that are YouTube subscribers.
00:37:50.000There's Vimeo, there's Ustream, and there's YouTube, and those all together constitute about 10%.
00:37:57.000But your whole thing is on, like when you do an iPhone video, like the big one was when you exposed that the iPhones were ridiculously easy to bend.
00:38:07.000Like, that was fucking millions and millions of hits, right?
00:39:18.000What is the difference in the new one?
00:39:19.000The new one is it's touch, meaning like you push the screen kind of like that old Blackberry that you used to have, the Blackberry touch that was a piece of shit.
00:40:20.000Like, move some shit, your keys, touch it, it clicks.
00:40:23.000The other thing was that they made a big deal about how, like, hey, we wanted to take the tech Technology of the flash that's on the new iPhone and put it in the front.
00:40:45.000So it's kind of like they're kind of side-talking, like, hey, We want to put this flash, but now we found out.
00:40:50.000Well, it's whenever they have an S, they don't go too far off the original.
00:40:54.000Some people make the argument, though, that with the S version, you're getting a refinement on the first-gen device, which could theoretically have problems.
00:41:34.000And I managed to get my hands on a leaked component recently for the upcoming iPhone and run some tests on it.
00:41:43.000And it turns out that the next generation of the phone is going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 to 70 percent stronger because they've added zinc to the aluminum structure with the aluminum alloy, which turns it into something they call a 7000 series aluminum.
00:42:01.000And that's the stuff they use in aerospace, NASA, so on and so forth.
00:42:05.000And it's essentially just way stronger without adding any kind of weight.
00:42:10.000In fact, the shell itself was a little bit lighter.
00:42:13.000So I did this test with this crazy contraption.
00:42:16.000I took just the back shell, so just the aluminum part, from the regular 6 and then from the upcoming 6S, and the old one bent at 30 pounds of force, and the new one was around 80. And the reason I know about the existence of zinc, and I dropped that information before Apple's keynote...
00:42:34.000It's because I went to a place called Elemental Controls, which is like this super crazy scientific joint where they have this gun that shoots x-rays into any alloy and will tell you exactly down to like two decimal points what the elemental makeup is.
00:43:16.000I mean, you know, a couple of old guys, their business is normally like when someone's doing a big order of aluminum, like you're buying a boatload from China, literally.
00:43:27.000They'll sometimes scam you and say that you're getting this alloy when it might look exactly the same as one that's chintzy on the zinc, let's say, for example.
00:44:05.000I'm interested in that because the iPhone 6 and the 6 Plus are the first two phones that I've had, like every single phone, that I've actually cracked.
00:44:13.000And I thought it was interesting that both of them...
00:44:15.000But that also coincides with some heavy fucking drinking.
00:44:22.000You talked about it, like, when the phones have been breaking.
00:44:25.000But, like, as an example, the iPhone 6 Plus, when I was getting out of my car, it slid out of my pocket, which was only, like, three feet when I'm getting out of my car.
00:44:34.000I mean, not even three feet, like, two feet, and it cracked.
00:44:39.000Well, there is a bit of a theory on that about sort of the rigidity of the chassis, or lack thereof, that might contribute to the glass having to bear the brunt of the impact.
00:44:50.000Even if you hit not directly on it, that there might be enough flex in that aluminum.
00:44:56.000Well, speaking about cases, do they have any really good cases that have power, that give you power?
00:45:04.000Like, you know, they have those that aren't gigantic?
00:45:07.000Have they shrunk those fuckers down yet?
00:45:57.000Hold on, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:45:58.000The one after the S? No, the 6S will have a smaller battery than the 6. So this is better than the 6S? It will have a slight amount more battery life.
00:46:14.000I mean, it's insignificant, but the point being is that they're not responding to part of the consumer demand, which is my demand, which is better battery life.
00:46:25.000Would you take a slightly thicker version of that?
00:49:19.000One thing that I thought was weird that they did in the keynote where they said the battery was not as strong as the 6, they said, well, the new operating system is going to give you an hour more battery life.
00:50:54.000It's going to shoot 4K. And Apple knows the camera has been the battleground of smartphones for the last five, six years.
00:51:04.000If you have the best camera, you're going to sell phones.
00:51:06.000And the problem for Apple right now is there's no argument that the S6 camera is better than Well, I guess you could make an argument, subjectivity, color representation, blah, blah, blah.
00:51:17.000The S6 shoots better photos than the current iPhone.
00:54:45.000Yeah, they'll send you a chip and put a little fucking card in there.
00:54:50.000Yeah, I think it's a good time for phones.
00:54:55.000I mean, it's fascinating that everyone has to compete at this level because if you look at the evolution of phones over the iPhone 1 to now, we're only talking about, what was that, 2009?
00:55:09.000So six years ago, we had this little fat thing that lasted about an hour, and that little tiny-ass screen that your thumb could cover the whole screen practically.
00:55:19.000Now we have this big, beautiful mini tablet.
00:56:42.000Yeah, because what I was saying earlier is like the iPad Pro, the upcoming iPad, has the highest resolution display of anything that Apple's ever put out.
00:56:51.000Actually, maybe arguably anything commercially available in the tablet space, phone space.
00:56:56.000Well, how long before someone makes a VR and slaps that sucker?
00:58:22.000There's a lot of arguments there, but when it comes to a tablet, it's almost always at home, always on the couch.
00:58:29.000I just feel like Maybe, I don't know, maybe this could shift the paradigm and people will look at these things as actual notepads, finally.
00:59:14.000So when I would draw my notes out, I would say something, I would write comedy notes out, and then I would sync it with Evernote, and then I would look at it as an actual drawing.
00:59:26.000As the actual me writing the physical words.
00:59:29.000I still have it saved up on Evernote, and I like it a lot.
00:59:33.000But you don't miss not having it though, the pen.
01:00:57.000Oh yeah, they sold out in China in the first 24 hours.
01:01:00.000You know, there was an article recently that I read about Beverly Hills that there's an insane amount, something like, I think they were saying something between 25 and 29% of all real estate in Beverly Hills is being bought up by people from Saudi Arabia and Beverly Hills.
01:01:35.000So, like, we went to, I talked about this recently, we went to this steak place in Beverly Hills, and there was a guy, they're importing cars from From Saudi Arabia for the summer.
01:02:26.000So it was like the prince, probably, because they couldn't get one, [...
01:02:30.000Yeah, yeah, yeah like this guy has his fucking 1.5 million dollar car that's not even registered in America And he's driving around a valet parking it in front of the steak place right I'm like this is a it's a strange co-opting of this area But I like this because it's such it's such a like a name place It's like there's a high value to that Beverly Hills name right so because of that like They said that some ungodly percentage of all homes over $10 million are being purchased by rich people from Saudi
01:03:04.000I think there's a push to sort of evacuate some of the money from those environments because there's an uneasiness about what happens in the future in those economies.
01:03:23.000People were tweeting that to me today.
01:03:26.000People were tweeting to me that this guy tweeted to me that he works at a restaurant and that all the people that work at that restaurant were yelling out, let's get lucrative.
01:03:36.000I want to know where the t-shirt is because...
01:03:45.000But yeah, man, the money that it would cost for that little $25,000 watch is nothing for those kind of people, and that would be the instant thing they would want.
01:04:17.000They'll have auctions for license plate number one, number two, number three, and it's in the millions of dollars because when you get to the crazy level of status and whatnot, things get bonkers really quick.
01:04:33.000As far as what you need to do, how absurd things need to be for you to make a statement anymore.
01:04:40.000In that culture, if that's what you're going for is only the most obvious form of rampant materialism.
01:04:47.000If that's what you're going for, yeah, that's what you want.
01:04:51.000You want to get the number one license plate.
01:05:37.000I think it's more a thing of like, in order to maintain your competitiveness, you have to keep on approaching these things that shouldn't be attainable.
01:10:47.000Like, that guy's kind of bypassing all the aeronautics rules, because there's rules.
01:10:52.000Like, if you want to get a helicopter, you have to get a helicopter license.
01:10:56.000You have to tell people where you're flying.
01:10:59.000Yeah, we're in a strange point right now where technology is progressing at this insane speed and the legal system takes way longer than that.
01:11:10.000There's not enough time to go through all the steps necessary on that side of it to catch up with the technology as it's happening.
01:11:18.000Drones, what was that story the other day where there were all those drones up in the air and they couldn't, so the helicopters couldn't get to a scene where someone needed to be airlifted?
01:12:00.000There's going to be seek and destroy type drones that you just throw in the air and just go after these drones and somehow knock them out of commission.
01:12:06.000Yeah, but you can't have, like, aerial warfare over the freeway.
01:12:10.000Yeah, they're dropping little kids' heads.
01:12:12.000First time a baby gets killed by a falling drone that was taken out by a company.
01:12:16.000I was on the beach the other day, just hanging out, and it was a pretty empty beach in Santa Barbara, and I just, like, heard this, like...
01:13:33.000And if you get any of the terminology wrong or you talk about them being dangerous in any way or anything like that, you're going to have an entire script in your comment section about that.
01:13:53.000They do have a point, but so does the public at large in seeing a flying thing above their head and wondering if the connection between the thing controlling it and it itself is stable enough to keep it up there.
01:14:06.000Well, not only that, how about just the privacy intrusion?
01:14:08.000If you're some person who's sunbathing, some woman Oh, right.
01:14:27.000And then also, the Oculus Rift effect, because when I was on that sci-fi show, we did some things where we took drones and we strapped cameras to these drones, and we flew over the top of these trees in the Pacific Northwest.
01:14:41.000It was like the Looking for Bigfoot episode.
01:14:44.000We're flying around looking for Bigfoot with a fucking drone.
01:15:24.000Again, how do you get a person to be interested in getting into government to write these regulations who's actually familiar with the thing?
01:15:32.000Like, why in God's name would they want to do this at that point?
01:15:55.000Essentially, these young kids that haven't even graduated from high school yet, that know as much or more than anyone these people are going to hire in the first place.
01:16:04.000Like these comments that you're getting, these detailed comments critiquing you.
01:16:07.000They might be from like that 14-year-old kid in fucking Dallas that got arrested today because his teacher thought he was making a bomb because he made a homemade clock.
01:17:12.000And, you know, it's just amazing that someone wasn't skilled enough to talk to this kid, socially skilled enough to go, um, what do you got there?
01:17:21.000And so he could have probably gone, well, I make my own computers, and I make my own this, and what I've done here is I've strung together all these electronics and built a clock, and I've figured out how to do that.
01:17:31.000I mean, you can easily talk to someone if you're skilled.
01:18:09.000There was a horrible fucking documentary that I watched where they had this school, and they had all these kids on the wall of the school that were strapped up with these explosion vests, and it said, today's children are tomorrow's holy martyrs.
01:19:19.000And it's because when you're in this chamber of all this noise, people sort of elevate their level of what they're willing to do to counteract this thing that they disagree with.
01:19:47.000You know, this guy shot a fucking lion.
01:19:49.000It took 40 hours for the thing to die, and then they had to go and kill it on some private or some public property that you're not even allowed to hunt there.
01:21:24.000You had to be an established person who had a degree in journalism or a history as a journalist.
01:21:30.000Now you just have to get on an application that anyone can download in two seconds on your phone, and you just start talking shit.
01:21:37.000You know, I'm going to come to your house, I'm going to throw your kids in a wood chipper, like all that shit they were saying to that guy, Corey Knowlton, that shot the Rhino in that Radiolab episode that we were talking about.
01:21:45.000I mean, they said some horrible, horrible shit to him, and it's because they felt like they could.
01:22:11.000It was us in this room, and, you know, someone had done something fucked up, like the lion killer guy.
01:22:16.000We could have, like, a detailed discussion on how we felt about it, and what are the actual facts about the case, and did you know that 28 different lions wearing collars have been killed?
01:22:29.000Like, it's very common that they kill ones with a collar, because once they go outside of the protected area, you're allowed to kill them, and lions cover a gigantic area where they hunt.
01:22:38.000So we would have these kind of nuanced discussions because you're in a room with four rational people.
01:22:43.000But think about all the fucking idiots that you've met in your life.
01:22:48.000If you have 350 million people in this country, at least one out of 100 is a fucking idiot.
01:22:55.000So that means you got three million five hundred thousand fucking idiots to just smashing their sloppy cheese doodle covered fingers on keyboards and fucking spitting on their screen and taking time to jack off in between tweets and they smell like shit.
01:23:13.000They're farting and wafting the fart up into their nose.
01:23:16.000They're horrible monsters and there's millions of them.
01:23:20.000There's millions of them and they will spend their whole day Tweeting, Facebooking, anytime something horrible goes wrong, now they have a green light.
01:23:29.000I think, though, that it almost feels like even the intellectual web contributes by enabling those fuck-ups you're talking about.
01:23:50.000So an example of this would be like a media headline, a juicy headline to get a person to click it, even though, as you mentioned before, it would completely lack the nuance of a proper discussion or debate.
01:24:03.000But you pander to the lowest common denominator.
01:24:07.000You want as many clicks as possible, and you're not necessarily concerned with the outcome of that.
01:24:14.000So it's like if we know that those big, huge news sources that are supposed to, or once upon a time, were nuanced or meant to sort of break down the story for you,
01:24:34.000It's all little fast-moving bites, hot takes, and so on, that formulate your opinion.
01:24:41.000So, in some ways, yes, those people should be held responsible for the things they say online, but it's not like the intellectual web or the news-producing web is doing the greatest job in advertising the proper content,
01:25:01.000It's much easier to just slam out some knee-jerk type of article and get it out faster, be first, as opposed to maybe you're a day later, but you've had time to gather more information.
01:25:13.000The other problem is a lot of those traditional media outlets have proven to be ineffective when it comes to controversial issues, like the Charlie Hebdo issue.
01:25:24.000Like when Charlie Hebdo happened and all those guys were killed, all those cartoonists were killed by those Muslim extremists that came in and were mad, they were making these cartoons of Muhammad.
01:25:34.000Nobody printed those fucking cartoons.
01:25:48.000So then it becomes a matter of when something is real and something's out there, like that guy who uploaded the video of him killing the reporters.
01:25:56.000He killed the reporters when they were on TV and uploaded the video of him doing it.
01:26:05.000And then, you know, part of that discussion, too, was like, Yeah, right.
01:26:33.000You know that what you're doing is you're about to introduce millions and millions of people to something they'd probably rather not watch.
01:26:39.000Well, that was a big deal with ISIS, too, because ISIS has had, some of the people in ISIS or ISIL, whatever you want to call it, they have had many, many, many accounts banned.
01:26:50.000Because they'll make these accounts, create these accounts, and start uploading photos of people being beheaded, uploading videos of people being beheaded.
01:27:38.000But the autoplay thing, like, have the choice to click the button, at least, at a minimum.
01:27:43.000Yeah, I talked about that a couple weeks ago.
01:27:45.000Somebody posted, or I was just, like, looking at puppies and stuff, and then out of nowhere was a woman in a car accident with her face missing, and she was picking at her face.
01:27:52.000And it was one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen, and I think about it all the time.
01:27:58.000I should have never seen that and now I can't stop thinking about it.
01:28:35.000And people, the reason YouTubers, a lot of YouTubers are especially upset with it is a lot of people are freebooting our content.
01:28:42.000Not mine specifically, but a lot of other ones, specifically in the comedy genre.
01:28:46.000Because you can take this clip off YouTube, upload it natively to Facebook, have it autoplay, build this huge profile for yourself based off of someone else's content that they've made, and there's no way for you to go and track it down, and Facebook isn't being vigilant.
01:29:04.000Vigilant about going and finding that stuff.
01:29:06.000In some cases, YouTubers I know have missed out on millions, tens of millions of views that happened elsewhere and were associated with some other account on Facebook.
01:29:18.000And there was another account they might not have even known about.
01:29:22.000They wouldn't know about it until somebody saw it that was also a fan of theirs that would then tweet it to them or whatever and say, there's this completely fake profile of yours on Facebook uploading all your stuff and pretending to be you.
01:29:37.000Well, usually the way it'll work is that they'll build up a large profile.
01:29:41.000So you take really funny 15-second videos.
01:29:47.000And then every so often, after you've got this shit ton of followers, you insert some branded thing that you're attempting to do.
01:29:54.000So you're utilizing someone else's profile to build your very own.
01:29:58.000You're not necessarily making immediate money from it.
01:30:01.000But you're opening up the possibility to do so after the fact.
01:30:05.000Like he said with Fat Jew, if you've got 5, 6, 10 million followers on someone else's back, at that point it doesn't matter.
01:30:12.000You can shut off the old way of doing business, then start doing your original stuff at that point once you've already got an audience, right?
01:31:08.000It is cloudy, but what was not cloudy about the Fat Juice situation was that he was purposely not attributing it to the people that created it, and even sometimes, like there's some of the other ones, that girl that was changing words Changing, like,
01:31:23.000someone had originally tweeted something about a cat, and she would change it to a dog, but the exact same joke.
01:31:41.000Yeah, there was a nice article written the other day how he's still doing it, and he also has all these fake accounts that he's giving the credit to, but it's like a locked account with one post.
01:32:15.000Yeah, I know, but see, the thing is that your behavior influences what gets rebroadcast, especially on Instagram.
01:32:21.000Because if it's, like, previous photos you've liked, and then in other people's Discover page, I'm sure you have a lot of followers, now they're seeing that thing surface.
01:32:29.000So it's hard to actually do shit on Instagram without helping the shit that you're looking at.
01:35:04.000And his cocaine use was what's called out of competition cocaine use.
01:35:09.000Like when John Jones got caught for cocaine, he got caught for cocaine when he was not, it wasn't going to be affecting him while he was fighting.
01:35:17.000The idea with these tests with marijuana is that if you can catch someone who was taking marijuana while they were competing, then it could be a factor.
01:35:27.000Because it may affect their performance?
01:35:32.000There's no scientific evidence whatsoever that marijuana is a significant effector of performance to the point where it should be banned.
01:35:41.000Caffeine significantly affects performance, and it's legal.
01:35:44.000I believe you can have up to 200 milligrams of caffeine and compete under Olympic rules.
01:35:50.000Chael Sonneny actually told me that he takes it in pill form.
01:35:54.000Because he doesn't want to fuck up and get an extra strong cup of coffee and break the grid or break the test.
01:36:00.000But if you, like, go to Starbucks, like, you know, we've tried to figure it out before, like, how much caffeine is in one of those things that Brian drinks?
01:36:07.000Because he drinks those 30-ounce fucking...
01:36:31.000So, I mean, the arguable effect that marijuana does give you, it might give you some dilation of your lungs, it might give you a slight advantage in your cardio because of that, or a focus advantage, which is like, For some people,
01:38:08.000It starts to fuck with your head because you realize you've got to pump yourself up now because you're not jacked to the tits on some artificial testosterone.
01:38:40.000That they don't have it in their contract where they test them.
01:38:42.000They don't allow themselves to be tested.
01:38:45.000So how is it that this is even on the table to begin with?
01:38:49.000First of all, because there's no union.
01:38:51.000If there was a fighters union, and the fighters union could go to the athletic commissions and say, fuck you, we're not coming to Vegas, you dummies.
01:38:59.000And then the other problem is, if someone's banned in Vegas, they're banned in the world.
01:39:03.000Because if you violate it, then there's all sorts of fucking lawsuits and bullshit.
01:39:07.000That is the part that I can't wrap my head around.
01:39:09.000Well, not only that, but you're being banned by idiots, okay?
01:39:12.000You're being banned by people who don't understand the sport.
01:39:15.000If they did understand the sport, first of all, they would have fired 60% of their judges.
01:39:20.00060% of their judges, any judge that hasn't had any martial arts experience, any judge, you should run them through a course.
01:40:37.000The fucking casino's there, you're drinking till 6 o'clock in the morning if you want.
01:40:42.000I completely agree, but anytime you're in any kind of negotiation, you have to be willing to walk away.
01:40:47.000And if they continue to fuck up, what's the risk to them?
01:40:50.000I think the public reaction to this Nick Diaz thing is unprecedented.
01:40:54.000I tweeted the phone number for the Nevada State Athletic Commission today and said, please call them up and let them know how you feel about them fucking over Nick Diaz.
01:41:17.000Look, they stole five years from this guy's career, and they stole $165,000 from his purse, and they weren't even willing to take into consideration the other two tests that he failed.
01:45:26.000They like to sit back, smoke a joint, and watch a little TV. Well, they can't do that if they're being tested, you know, in this really restrictive way.
01:46:06.000So the problem is, he tested twice under the threshold of the current standards.
01:46:11.000The WADA tests had him under the threshold, which says he was not high when he competed.
01:46:16.000But the test that they used, I believe it was Quest Labs, sorry if I'm wrong, which is a very good lab, but it showed a completely different test than the test that WADA instituted.
01:46:29.000On top of that, again, we're talking about urine.
01:46:32.000We're talking about urine versus blood.
01:46:34.000And when you're testing metabolites...
01:46:36.000And so why in this particular case did that test take precedent over the WADA test?
01:47:03.000They're hired by the UFC to clean up the sport, but they have no say on how the tests are implemented, how the results are dispersed.
01:47:10.000The idea of bringing in the government and bringing in a guy like Nowitzki is, look, if you really want to clean up the sport, you hire a fucking bulldog who's just going to go after it.
01:49:33.000Think it's okay to take away $165,000 from the guy's purse and take away his ability to compete and make a living for five years in his prime?
01:49:58.000Alexander Shlomenko got tested positive in California, and Andy Foster, who's the chairman in California, he's very hell-bent on taking out cheaters.
01:51:08.000And I hope he wins, and I hope that the governor steps in, or someone steps in, that can say, there are people that you can hire that will understand what the fuck is going on.
01:51:17.000You need former athletes, you need people who are experts in science and medicine, that understand What the thresholds are.
01:51:24.000Understand the difference between urine tests and blood tests.
01:51:30.000You're going to need people that have the educated ability to make these judgments based on whatever discipline that they would need to be a master of to understand this.
01:51:41.000Like, if you're talking about steroids, You would need someone who's a steroid expert.
01:51:43.000If you're talking about performance-enhancing drugs like meth, you should have to establish the fact that you understand what the effects of all these things are.
01:51:54.000You should have to have some education in the effects of all these things.
01:52:22.000And one of the things that she said that I totally agree with about marijuana, she said this in the past too, it's an invasion of privacy is what it is.
01:52:31.000Just like the fact that if you work for a company, and the company decides to test you, and you work all week, you do a great job, you work hard, and then Friday's 5 o'clock, baby, it's over.
01:52:45.000You want to smoke a joint, you're home, you worked all day, you want to watch The Walking Dead, you want to put your feet up and you want to get high.
01:52:57.000They literally own your mind when you're not there.
01:53:00.000Because everyone knows that marijuana is not psychoactive permanently.
01:53:03.000It's not like you smoke a joint on Friday and then you show up on Monday morning and you're still high as fuck and you're high for the rest of your life.
01:53:19.000If you don't smoke any pot, if you get high right now and then four weeks from now they give you a urinalysis test, depending on what they're looking for, if they're just trying to trace metabolites, you can still test positive in four weeks.
01:54:23.000Again, I apologize if I'm wrong, but the bottom line is the tests were not the tests that you need when you're taking away a guy's fucking livelihood and you're fining him for $165,000 out of a $500,000 purse, which, by the way, he has to pay his managers,
01:54:39.000he has to pay taxes, he has to pay all these different things.
01:54:42.000When you make $500,000, you don't make $500,000.
01:55:51.000Well, partly because people wanted to see what Anderson Silva would look like after he came back from a leg injury, this horrific leg break, but also it's because he's fighting Nick Diaz.
01:56:00.000You know, Nick Diaz is going to talk shit to him like he did, like he got in his face.
01:56:05.000Like, nobody had ever done that to Anderson Silva before.
01:56:07.000He laid down on the ground like he was making a sleepy face, like, look, I'm sleeping, you're boring the fuck out of me, and jumped back up to his feet.
01:56:13.000He humiliated Anderson, completely fucked with his head inside that cage.
01:56:19.000And what he is experiencing right now is a bunch of assholes taking away his ability to compete.
01:56:26.000Taking away his ability to thrill people at what he does best.
01:56:29.000This guy has worked for more than a fucking decade as a professional mixed martial arts fighter.
01:56:34.000More than who knows how many years before that training and learning how to fight.
01:56:39.000All that's taken away by some assholes.
01:56:41.000I don't think it's going to stick at all.
01:56:43.000It's not going to stick, but I hope what the outcome is, is that we realize that these people are just bad at what they do, and they get removed.
01:56:51.000Kevin Aioli wrote a fantastic piece about it.
01:56:54.000Kevin Aioli, who's a very respected sports reporter, I forget what publication he writes for, but he's very respected in the world of combat sports especially.
01:57:02.000He said they expose themselves as being ridiculous.
01:57:05.000They expose themselves as being incompetent.
01:57:07.000Yeah, it's like it takes a critical moment like this to get everybody motivated enough to actually incite some change.
01:58:53.000So if you don't have access to stem cells, and you're competing with someone who does, and this guy gets a stem cell injection on his knees, and his knees are fixed up so he's going to be able to train harder, and you have to tough through it, well, should that be legal?
01:59:07.000Well, there's a similarity to that to people who get knee injuries or knee surgeries and then take a steroid to help themselves repair quicker so they can get back to competing quicker.
01:59:18.000You know, one of the fucked up things about this too is just looking at it surface level, These dudes go out there and beat each other up for other people's entertainment.
01:59:29.000And, you know, in that interview with Diaz after the fact, he was talking about how the people making decisions about what he can and can't do, those people sitting on the board or whatever the hell it is, they don't have to experience that.
02:00:19.000But if you give a guy steroids and you let him fight, he could administer damage that maybe he would not have been able to administer.
02:00:25.000He could hurt someone that maybe he wouldn't have had the endurance to hurt, he wouldn't have been able to deliver the combination that wound up hurting this person very badly, or possibly even killing someone.
02:00:33.000And she said that if someone ever does die, and the other person tests positive for steroids, they should really get charged with murder.
02:04:33.000But it's a lot easier to latch on to conflict that someone else has sort of shaped for you than it is to necessarily tackle the super personal thing that you're upset with.
02:04:43.000Yeah, or get your life to a point of balance where you can actually look at anything that's going on in the world and have just sort of an intelligent...
02:04:53.000And that's where I think that even though this is the Wild West and everyone has a voice, there are obviously voices that have emerged as more prominent.
02:05:54.000First of all, you saw his perspective about video games and how offended people got about that.
02:05:58.000They were calling in death threats against him, which I found incredibly ironic after he defends the Lion Hunter, then he goes off about video games being a sport, and people are like, fuck you!
02:06:15.000So what he was doing by saying, by mocking it, I guess he's trying to do comedy, but he's being disrespectful to an emerging sport, which is unquestionably involves skill and intelligence and planning and strategy.
02:06:35.000It's like, I think we all need to get smarter if we have established a voice on the web, like take an extra second before you hit that send button.
02:06:45.000I know I've had this experience myself in the various communications I've had about products, let's say, or videos I want to make or tweets I want to send, of like...
02:06:55.000What is the effect of this thing going to be?
02:06:57.000It might even be the way that I feel, and I still don't want to do it because I'm thinking about the reaction, I'm thinking about the trickle effect of this particular sentiment.
02:07:09.000I think a lot of the influencers, if you want to call them that, are behaving irresponsibly in wanting to put out a hot take Wanting to have something to say about this topic that has overwhelmed the web, that we're susceptible to the same thing that the lower level jerk in his room or that other guy that you were speaking about,
02:08:53.000You measure it just maybe a second, maybe a second longer.
02:08:57.000It's a real point that I think a lot of people, especially comedians, when I have comedians on the podcast, sometimes they just forget that or they're not aware of that or they're not aware of it to the extent that I am because I know the numbers.
02:09:10.000And there's a lot of people listening, and you have a responsibility to be entertaining, but you also have a responsibility to be accurate.
02:09:15.000You can't really say things that people might just take as fact when you haven't researched them, because you're reaching millions and millions of fucking people now, and you can change the way they look at things.
02:09:27.000So like when this Mike Huckabee guy...
02:09:29.000Latches on, you know, that fucking guy who latched on to that Kim lady, what the fuck her name is, the Kentucky clerk who wouldn't allow people to get gay men.
02:09:36.000He fucking immediately, like, this is a great thing.
02:09:54.000It's cool to watch because you're watching like the last gasps of a dying ignorant perspective.
02:10:01.000You're literally seeing the last few generations of monkeys that believe some dumb shit that was written on animal skins thousands of years ago.
02:10:11.000You're seeing the last echoes of the game of telephone Where you tell someone and I tell someone and it gets translated from generation to generation for over a thousand years before anybody bothers writing it down.
02:10:22.000Then once they write it down, they write it down in a fucking dead language and it has to be translated to all these other languages.
02:10:28.000I mean, that is what we're seeing when we see that lady screaming with her glasses on at the Mike Huckabee fucking convention.
02:10:34.000Hey, we're going to stop all that butt!
02:11:13.000Well, it's hard to get the internet to places in the middle of nowhere, and it's hard to get the influence of those communities, but it will happen eventually.
02:11:24.000And when it does happen, you realize that your perspective is simply the perspective of the people around you that you have sort of adopted.
02:11:33.000And your view of life, your view of religion, your view of all...
02:11:36.000I mean, I've had people on my podcast that used to be Muslim, and they've become atheists.
02:11:42.000And they lived there in the Middle East, and they were a part of that culture, and they thought like those people did.
02:11:48.000And then they came over here, and they started reading, and they started getting into it, and they started really, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the fuck?
02:11:53.000Look at this ideology that I've subscribed to.
02:11:55.000This isn't the only way to think, and not only that, if you take enough time and look at it objectively, it's not even rational.
02:12:02.000It's not like this is a bulletproof ideology, but that's how it's tried.
02:12:07.000Most religions try to pass their stuff off.
02:12:10.000Scientology tries to pass their stuff off like that.
02:12:13.000They try to pass their stuff off as bulletproof.
02:12:49.000Yeah, so it's like weather balloons that hover above areas that have no service, hard to reach places, and they're on a cycle.
02:12:58.000So like your phone is rapidly switching between the one that's actually overhead at that point, and as that one slowly drifts out of range on the jet stream...
02:13:06.000The next one flows in, and then you hand off to that one.
02:13:11.000So you don't notice an interruption in connection, but since a weather balloon can't sit there forever, it's floating along with the weather system.
02:13:22.000But some really cool technology, there's some videos online that show how they've made it.
02:13:26.000So the idea being is places like North Korea, for example, float your fucking balloons.
02:14:30.000I don't know, man, because anywhere, like you just spoke about a person completely changing their religious outlook just upon arriving somewhere else.
02:14:38.000You think about it, what is the difference?
02:14:39.000It's the information available to them.
02:14:41.000Even though it might not be on a phone or a laptop, it's the information they're supposed to by the culture they're surrounded with.
02:14:58.000An immediate overhaul in the behavior because all of a sudden now you've got this massive cultural shift of communication and so on, and people with access to Google.
02:15:08.000I mean, why do you think China has been blocking YouTube and Google since day one?
02:15:14.000Day one, because the warfare has always been about information.
02:15:18.000World War II doesn't happen without propaganda.
02:15:21.000Well, I have a friend who worked, doesn't work anymore at Google, but she would go over to China and have meetings with these people, and they were like, well, we want access to these people's emails.
02:15:29.000We want to be able to block these things.
02:15:46.000But I think that the control structures that exist in our global perspective, they exist because of an agenda, a particular agenda, whatever that might be.
02:15:57.000And you can't control people if you don't control information flow.
02:16:02.000And also I think that people almost automatically or naturally gravitate towards controlling others if they have power.
02:16:12.000Nevada State Athletic Commission or any king or dictatorship or what people felt about the NSA. That's why people are so outraged with this Edward Stoughton thing, that these people who are no different than you, no different than I, We just got jobs and could research ex-girlfriends' emails.
02:16:28.000I mean, they could do all kinds of creepy shit that you shouldn't really be able to do and the public didn't know about it.
02:17:06.000And when you have allies like South Korea, Japan, that are right in the zone there, right in bomb zone, and like what...
02:17:18.000I just imagine that there was a border here with that kind of shit on the other side like that's a Daily life type situation for people in South Korea.
02:17:27.000It's a completely developed place much like here culturally Complete free and open marketplace and their neighbor Their neighbor are these psychos like it's one thing for us to think about it at this distance But those people daily life is wondering what the fuck is gonna happen?
02:17:44.000And the whole country, North and South Korea, is like the size of Texas.
02:20:21.000So what we decided to do was drive to this drive-thru fucking liquor store by a bottle of Jack Daniels and a flat.
02:20:29.000And then while I was on stage, I explained that I was drinking Diet Coke, but I'd like to have warm Diet Coke and pour it in my cold Diet Coke.
02:22:06.000One of the chairmen's, one of the commissioners for the Nevada State Athletic Commission, his company that he owns, applied for a medical marijuana license.